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boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 09:13 AM
In today's climate he and they don't lose those votes. Look at that economist article interviewing republican voters in Ohio. They believe lives. Its never trump, it's always the dems. Lies work.
"a study showed" that people value their group membership as more important than laws, ethic, morals, "truth".
If Trash/Barr agree with Roger Stone, the Repug cult mob, aka "Good Germans", will go along when Trash/Barr, after fucking up the election into a total "Bannon shit zone", declare a martial law, with their private domestic army of the DHS also complying with those who pay their salaries, with the para-military right-wing militia brown/black shirts (or now maybe white knit polos with khaki pants) adding additional martial law fire power.
EC-important WI's Kock Bros SCOWI, 4-3 vote, has totally screwed up mail-in ballots, with perhaps subversive crap from the Green Party (Pootin pays Green Party? like Moscow-visitor Jill Stein vote-splitter?). Biden wins WI but Trash/Barr contest, nullifying WI EC votes for Biden)
VERY dangerous times. America is really on edge of chaos and maybe dissolution
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 09:17 AM
The GOP is staging chaos on the way to a coup
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/the-gop-is-staging-chaos-on-the-way-to-a-coup/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5450
hater
09-14-2020, 09:18 AM
"picking winners and losers"
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Whats your theory here?
Titktok chinese parent decided this. So they would decide something that would benefit Trump who wants to shut them down?
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 09:19 AM
Trump supporters cheer as protestor calls for assassinating pro-LGBTQ Democrats
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/trump-supporters-cheer-as-protestor-calls-for-assassinating-pro-lgbtq-democrats (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/trump-supporters-cheer-as-protestor-calls-for-assassinating-pro-lgbtq-democrats/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5450&recip_id=298460&list_id=1)
Winehole23
09-14-2020, 10:13 AM
Whats your theory here?
Titktok chinese parent decided this. So they would decide something that would benefit Trump who wants to shut them down?Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
hater
09-14-2020, 10:19 AM
Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
Agreed :tu
Chris
09-14-2020, 10:25 AM
Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
Agreed :tu
:lol
Winehole23
09-14-2020, 10:58 AM
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/evg/d/cincinnati-actors-wanted-no-experience/7187238111.html
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 11:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTVwXhAOpwk&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=IE9GqX0SvMSZNZel:6&ab_channel=TheLinc olnProject
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 11:54 AM
PTSD expert:
Americans are being ‘psychologically abused’ by Trump and will face health crisis for years
“Donald Trump is the most successful bio-terrorist in human history. This is not an accident.”
Trump’s sabotage and willful negligence —
to which he has now effectively confessed —
is a crime against humanity (https://www.salon.com/2020/05/28/activist-turned-scientist-gregg-gonsalves-on-trumps-genocide-and-deborah-birxs-horrific-game/).
At worst, it approaches de facto genocide (https://www.salon.com/2020/05/28/activist-turned-scientist-gregg-gonsalves-on-trumps-genocide-and-deborah-birxs-horrific-game/);
at best, it could be called negligent homicide (https://www.salon.com/2020/08/14/mueller-prosecutor-glenn-kirschner-trump-is-a-career-criminal-guilty-of-negligent-homicide/) on a mass scale.
“If he had a conscience or a soul, he would resign.
Tragically for us, he has neither.”
Donald Trump does not care about their safety, health or well-being.
Trump and his regime are emotionally and physically abusing the American people.
Trumpism is a death cult (https://www.salon.com/2020/05/21/what-does-trump-mean-by-war-president-hes-really-the-leader-of-a-death-cult/).
Human sacrifice is one of its central rites and rituals.
many of Trump’s disciples are willing to both die and kill for him.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/ptsd-expert-americans-are-being-psychologically-abused-by-trump-and-will-face-health-crisis-for-years
Spurs Homer
09-14-2020, 12:06 PM
Lordy
more tape recordings released
drip...drip ...drip
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 12:16 PM
Lordy
more tape recordings released
drip...drip ...drip
Will the September Surprise of the Rage book + tapes of Trash's self-incrimination of negligent manslaughter / reckless endangerment
offset the October Surprise of Barr/Durham?
Spurs Homer
09-14-2020, 12:22 PM
Will the September Surprise of the Rage book + tapes of Trash's self-incrimination of negligent manslaughter / reckless endangerment
offset the October Surprise of Barr/Durham?
i dont underestimate the criminality of barr
but yes
the covid fuckery is the end of trumpism and the cult
with only ONE exception
russia and trumps extent of cheating the election
trump could be politically destroyed-yet be installed by russia again
leaving the usa with a hated president -even worse than the past 4 years-
for another 4 years or more
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 12:23 PM
‘Appalling betrayal’:
New report details dozens of Trump rollbacks perpetrated under cover of COVID-19
“Nearly 200,000 Americans are dead and more than 6 million have been infected with Covid-19 because of the administration’s disastrous response,
but Trump’s top priority is showering giant corporations with deregulatory special favors,”
In the nearly six months since President Donald Trump declared a public health emergency over the coronavirus pandemic,
he has rolled back at least 30 public protections,
while proposing changes to at least 20 others,
Trump “has directed agencies to press forward with his dangerous, unpopular, and corrupt deregulatory agenda as if it’s business as usual,”
president of appearing “eager to take advantage of the crisis and
ram through deregulatory policies while the rest of the country is distracted.”
The rollbacks are spread widely across numerous federal agencies,
with many occurring at the besieged Environmental Protection Agency.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/appalling-betrayal-new-report-details-dozens-of-trump-rollbacks-perpetrated-under-cover-of-19/
100Ks of people will be diseased and die by the increases in the Trump pollution of air, land, water.
Spurs Homer
09-14-2020, 12:24 PM
And ^ to add
the barr witch hunt is 100% baseless
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 12:38 PM
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5f5ce8dab794d39fa89b9be5/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/200921_r37063b_rd3.jpg
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 12:40 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119244253_183824849947190_8709100801692441080_n.pn g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=RSjes0LbIYEAX8TlvhK&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=63de3e8f5565276fda7673889804eb00&oe=5F850AB3
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 12:47 PM
https://images.dailykos.com/images/855006/story_image/TMW2020-09-16color.png?1599849165
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 01:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=fn3cTT6O1I4&feature=emb_logo&ab_c hannel=MeidasTouch
Trainwreck2100
09-14-2020, 01:19 PM
Oh btw the breadlines are long and we have Americans in refugee camps out west
FrostKing
09-14-2020, 01:33 PM
Rough morning for Boutons
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 01:37 PM
Top HHS official accuses scientists of plotting against Trump,
tells supporters to buy ammunition
The top communications official at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) accused career government scientists of plotting against President Trump (https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) and told Trump supporters to arm themselves ahead of the November presidential election.
In a Facebook Live on Sunday, Michael Caputo (https://thehill.com/person/michael-caputo) said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) was harboring a “resistance unit" to Trump,
Caputo also warned
Trump's followers to be prepared for an armed insurrection when Democratic nominee Joe Biden refuses to concede the election.
"When Donald Trump refuses to stand down at the inauguration, the shooting will begin,” Caputo said.
“If you carry guns, buy ammunition, ladies and gentlemen, because it’s going to be hard to get.”
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/516319-top-hhs-official-accuses-scientists-of-plotting-against-trump-tells (https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/516319-top-hhs-official-accuses-scientists-of-plotting-against-trump-tells?fbclid=IwAR0CbwoFUsTk_D7FsJI2YysXSMwflZYIWC_ Qz3G_5BePFutrahnqrSVDorw)
what Caputo is really saying is start shooting when Trash refuses to concede to Biden,
then Trash will declare national emergency, martial law, and an EO to deputize Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, Boogooloo Boys, etc as US Marshalls.
Rough morning for Boutons
How's that?
FrostKing
09-14-2020, 02:01 PM
How's that?
Spamming content. Seems he didn't sleep well.
Bogie
09-14-2020, 02:12 PM
Spamming content. Seems he didn't sleep well.
you going to be coming back from Poland to shoot at coloreds like the good little cowardly racist you are?
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 02:23 PM
How's that?
racist nutjob FK has no clue
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 02:31 PM
Surprise resignation of federal prosecutor
ups concerns Barr is leaning on Durham investigation
The Justice Department confirmed the Friday departure (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/top-federal-prosecutor-quits-barr-ordered-durham-probe-into-origins-of-russia-trump-investigation-2020-09-13) of Nora Dannehy, a top prosecutor working on U.S. Attorney John Durham's investigation into the origins of the FBI's Trump campaign–Russia investigation.
Durham persuaded Dannehy, a well-regarded career prosecutor (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/11/us/politics/nora-dannehy-durham-russia-investigation.html) who had worked with him for decades (https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-news-john-durham-dannehy-resignation-20200911-20200911-xcsapnq7g5e63kvtw5aqi7cv34-story.html), to return to the Justice Department to act as his lead investigator.
colleagues said she "has been concerned in recent weeks by what she believed was pressure from Barr ... to produce results before the election."
Trump and his allies have been raising expectations that
Durham's investigations would lead to arrests of high-level FBI or DOJ officials,
vindicating his "deep state" allegations before voters cast their ballots.
"Several officials said expectations had been growing in the White House and Congress that
Mr. Barr would make public, ahead of the election, some kind of interim report or list of findings from Mr. Durham before he completed the investigation,"
Barr's "early public description of the then-still-secret Mueller report" was slammed by a federal judge as so "misleading" and "distorted" in Trump's favor
that it rendered the DOJ untrustworthy on the topic.
the Justice Department's 60-day ban on taking actions
that might affect an election doesn't count here :lol of course not
since Democratic nominee Joe Biden is not a target of the investigation.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/937353/surprise-resignation-federal-prosecutor-ups-concerns-barr-leaning-durham-investigation (https://theweek.com/speedreads/937353/surprise-resignation-federal-prosecutor-ups-concerns-barr-leaning-durham-investigation)
FrostKing
09-14-2020, 02:36 PM
you going to be coming back from Poland to shoot at coloreds like the good little cowardly racist you are?
My girlfriend is Latina. There are very few blacks where I live nor do I own a firearm.
Dirks_Finale
09-14-2020, 02:41 PM
Biden will speak with jokes like Cardi B but I'll bet he hides from this challenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnUfahWHKwc
spurraider21
09-14-2020, 02:46 PM
joe rogan moderating a presidential debate... is this really where we are?
*sees our president is fucking donald trump*
i guess?
Spurminator
09-14-2020, 02:52 PM
Biden will speak with jokes like Cardi B but I'll bet he hides from this challenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnUfahWHKwc
Consider for a moment that you think this is a good and plausible proposal.
Biden will speak with jokes like Cardi B but I'll bet he hides from this challenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnUfahWHKwc
Why would he agree to it given that Joe Rogan has shown bias against Biden and favoritism to Trump?
Beside it being an unrealistic offer, you want this to be 4 hours. :lol
Bogie
09-14-2020, 03:00 PM
My girlfriend is Latina. There are very few blacks where I live nor do I own a firearm.
so latinas are good enough to date but not be friends with. Yep, you’re truly a shitty person.
so how does she like Poland? Is there a large Latino population there, in Poland of course.
FrostKing
09-14-2020, 03:03 PM
so latinas are good enough to date but not be friends with. Yep, you’re truly a shitty person.
so how does she like Poland? Is there a large Latino population there, in Poland of course.
Why would I not be friends with them? We are both immigrants but in general our cultures have alot of similiaries.
Why would I not be friends with them? We are both immigrants but in general our cultures have alot of similiaries.
Like? Catholicism Etc?
ducks
09-14-2020, 03:19 PM
PollWatch
@PollWatch2020
Presidential approval on September 14 of respective re-election years according to Rasmussen Reports:
Trump (2020): 51%
Obama (2012): 48%
(likely voters)
3 pt jump since Friday
Rasmussen notes that the overnight results "are possibly the strongest in his presidency."
PollWatch
@PollWatch2020
Presidential approval on September 14 of respective re-election years according to Rasmussen Reports:
Trump (2020): 51%
Obama (2012): 48%
(likely voters)
3 pt jump since Friday
Rasmussen notes that the overnight results "are possibly the strongest in his presidency."
:lol Rasmussen
ducks
09-14-2020, 03:31 PM
Most accurate in 2016
Ef-man
09-14-2020, 03:34 PM
Most accurate in 2016
Did you finish raking the forests ducks?
Those forest fires are not going to end until you finish raking.
FrostKing
09-14-2020, 03:39 PM
Like? Catholicism Etc?
Yes I think that is the root cause. Social conservatism in terms of being respectful and modest. Family is most important. They have tequila and we have vodka. They neighbor USA and we neighbor Russia.
I remember she asked me early on what is the Polish cultural norm when one introduces their significant other to parents. I've actually dated a few immigrants from Mexico. I tend to connect better with them. The current girl I'm dating, one of her best friends in America is actually Polish. And her best friend (Mexican) married an Ukrainian guy.
Dirks_Finale
09-14-2020, 03:51 PM
Why would he agree to it given that Joe Rogan has shown bias against Biden and favoritism to Trump?
Beside it being an unrealistic offer, you want this to be 4 hours. :lol
If you listen to his podcasts in their contexts, they are hard on Trump as well.
And yeah, 4 hours is a little much. Two would suffice. Can be negotiated.
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 03:52 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119139697_184145509915124_465921096655771444_n.png ?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=3y8q8cwDBfcAX_LDdnY&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=74d3f9cfacb2d6c296b8a3bf89c4b009&oe=5F871C37
joe rogan moderating a presidential debate... is this really where we are?
*sees our president is fucking donald trump*
i guess?
You have to remember that the Trump administration is a reality show.
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 04:12 PM
“Based on the way we were treated”
Trump says at Nevada rally that he deserves a THIRD term
he would “negotiate” a third term after winning the current election as he campaigned in Nevada last night.
Trump’s careless words suggested a more insidious manner of extending his term.
Given that Trump has repeated his fantasies of a third term multiple times during this campaign,
one can no longer see his comments as a mere joke any longer.
https://washingtonpress.com/2020/09/13/based-on-the-way-we-were-treated-trump-says-at-nevada-rally-that-he-deserves-a-third-term
Dirks_Finale
09-14-2020, 04:19 PM
2012 was Rasmussen's only real fop.
Meanwhile, all the left leaning polls flopped last election cycle. :lol
Most accurate in 2016
Spurminator
09-14-2020, 04:24 PM
:lol Rassumussen undercounted the Trump/Clinton share of the vote by 6 percentage points.
So they were equally so wrong on both that they accidentally got closest to the 2% margin.
2012 was Rasmussen's only real fop.
Meanwhile, all the left leaning polls flopped last election cycle. :lol
Has Trump ever lead this cycle? In any polls, left or right?
He not only led in some polls last time but was also inside the margin of error in all the polls. He's in neither of those in 2020.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 04:32 PM
There’s three debates that have been agreed to. Biden should absolutely do all three of them and he do all of them in person, but this effort by Trump to add extra debates is retarded (also pathetic since an incumbent who wants as many debates as possible is probably an incumbent who’s done a really shitty job).
Bogie
09-14-2020, 04:33 PM
Why would I not be friends with them? We are both immigrants but in general our cultures have alot of similiaries.
Big Latino population Poland, huh? At least they keep the blacks out, right?
Dirks_Finale
09-14-2020, 04:57 PM
Has Trump ever lead this cycle? In any polls, left or right?
He not only led in some polls last time but was also inside the margin of error in all the polls. He's in neither of those in 2020.
He has not lead at all in the general election. I do not recall him ever holding a lead in any general election poll averages on RCP last time.(maybe tied once?) 2016 had more ebb and flow than this one has had.
I believe there is more to 'shy' Trump voters than the studies might indicate. I personally know folks who won't tell you they are voting for Trump but had no problem saying they were voting McCain or Romney, out loud. They don't trust pollsters or virtually anyone else for that matter. They don't want their info on some hitlist. They don't want their cars keyed, etc. It's a thing, I just don't know how much of a thing and Trump's poor response to the virus might mean that none of it matters. If the polls are accurate, his goose is cooked.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:01 PM
He has not lead at all in the general election. I do not recall him ever holding a lead in any general election poll averages on RCP last time.(maybe tied once?) 2016 had more ebb and flow than this one has had.
I believe there is more to 'shy' Trump voters than the studies might indicate. I personally know folks who won't tell you they are voting for Trump but had no problem saying they were voting McCain or Romney, out loud. They don't trust pollsters or virtually anyone else for that matter. They don't want their info on some hitlist. They don't want their cars keyed, etc. It's a thing, I just don't know how much of a thing and Trump's poor response to the virus might mean that none of it matters. If the polls are accurate his goose is cooked.
The big difference this cycle is undecided voters. Hillary might have been leading the whole time, but she never got above 50% in the national popular vote.
The Democrats are doing everything to fuck themselves in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania right now though by holding up the mailing of absentee ballots because of a stupid court battle over green party candidates on the ballot.
Dirks_Finale
09-14-2020, 05:03 PM
Bloomberg coming through for you guys in FLA, though. Dems pick off FLA and this sh1t is over. :lol
The big difference this cycle is undecided voters. Hillary might have been leading the whole time, but she never got above 50% in the national popular vote.
The Democrats are doing everything to fuck themselves in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania right now though by holding up the mailing of absentee ballots because of a stupid court battle over green party candidates on the ballot.
Winehole23
09-14-2020, 05:07 PM
Bloomberg coming through for you guys in FLA, though. Dems pick off FLA and this sh1t is over. :lol
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Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:07 PM
Bloomberg coming through for you guys in FLA, though. Dems pick off FLA and this sh1t is over. :lol
I remember during the primary how much establishment Democrats like that stupid bitch Claire McCaskill were flapping about how we needed to pick Biden over Sanders because of how poorly Sanders would do with hispanics in Florida.
Kinda looks retarded right now when Biden is polling historically shitty with latinos across the country and especially in Florida, both Cubans and non-Cubans :lol
I remember during the primary how much establishment Democrats were flapping about how we needed to pick Biden over Sanders because of how poorly Sanders would do with hispanics in Florida.
Kinda looks retarded right now when Biden is doing historically shitty with latinos across the country and especially in Florida, both Cubans and non-Cubans :lol
Latinos are unreliable voters. You can only hope to target them and try to get them out. In the end they still won't show up.
Trump still loses them. Biden also doing exceeding well with 65+ older voters sort of offsets that.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:12 PM
Latinos are unreliable voters. You can only hope to target them and try to get them out. In the end they still won't show up.
Quite the goalpost move from "We can't pick Sanders because he won't do as well as Biden is going to do with hispanics in Florida!"
Biden is doing well with 65+ because of Trump handling COVID letting a bunch of old people die.
Quite the goalpost move from "We can't pick Sanders because he won't do as well as Biden is going to do with hispanics in Florida!"
Biden is doing well with 65+ because of Trump handling COVID letting a bunch of old people die.
Who said that about Sanders?
I recall saying so about cuban americans when Bernie fucked up with his Castro lovefest. Not the entire hispanic population.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:18 PM
Also the most recent polling has Trump winning among Latinos in Florida, way better than he did in 2016.
Its OK to just admit the premise that Joe Biden would do better with Florida Latinos than Sanders would do was retarded and unfounded, no ones gonna kill you for it.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:20 PM
Who said that about Sanders?
I recall saying so about cuban americans when Bernie fucked up with his Castro lovefest. Not the entire hispanic population.
If Biden was polling so well with Cubans, he wouldn’t be doing worse with them than Hillary did 4 years ago. The older Cubans who hate Castro are going to vote Republican no matter who’s on the ticket for the left, the idea that they could capture that vote by running a milquetoast centrist when none of the previous milquetoast centrists ever captured that vote was retarded.
Dirks_Finale
09-14-2020, 05:23 PM
I remember during the primary how much establishment Democrats like that stupid bitch Claire McCaskill were flapping about how we needed to pick Biden over Sanders because of how poorly Sanders would do with hispanics in Florida.
Kinda looks retarded right now when Biden is polling historically shitty with latinos across the country and especially in Florida, both Cubans and non-Cubans :lol
I was relieved when the DNC screwed Bernie again. He gets people energized. Could have been massive youth turnout for the Democrats in that scenario.
I just saw a report of a large Trump rally in LAREDO TX which is only like 3% white :lol Had to do a double take as I thought he was hated in border towns.
Also the most recent polling has Trump winning among Latinos in Florida, way better than he did in 2016.
Its OK to just admit the premise that Joe Biden would do better with Florida Latinos than Sanders would do was retarded and unfounded, no ones gonna kill you for it.
No one knows how that is going to shake out. So there is nothing to admit.
Wherein, we already knew Sanders would get steamrolled in Florida and Arizona.
Moreover, Sanders had more issues than latinos. His lackluster performance with older blacks would have been a massive issue. Imagine depending on record turnout by a bloc of voters that never shows up at the booth in young voters.
Dirks_Finale
09-14-2020, 05:27 PM
No one knows how that is going to shake out. So there is nothing to admit.
Wherein, we already knew Sanders would get steamrolled in Florida and Arizona.
Moreover, Sanders had more issues than latinos. His lackluster performance with older blacks would have been a massive issue. Imagine depending on record turnout by a bloc of voters that never shows up at the booth in young voters.
Probably so, but he does much better in the rustbelt than Killary. He may even take Ohio, and that's end game.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:30 PM
No one knows how that is going to shake out. So there is nothing to admit.
Wherein, we already knew Sanders would get steamrolled in Florida and Arizona.
Moreover, Sanders had more issues than latinos. His lackluster performance with older blacks would have been a massive issue. Imagine depending on record turnout by a bloc of voters that never shows up at the booth in young voters.
Older blacks show up and vote Dem no matter who’s on the ticket. It makes no logical sense to think those are votes the Democrats need to win over. As long as Bernie got endorsed by key black politicians like Massa Clyburn and civil-rights-activist-turned-Uncle-Tom John Lewis, the older black vote would show up for him.
:lmao “We already knew.” Typical establishment Democrat conventional wisdom. How did we already know? Did that scenario play out in an alternative universe or something?
I’d much rather depend on a candidate turning out young voters than a candidate who’s hoping to win on the historically unsuccessful strategy of winning the middle.
Spurminator
09-14-2020, 05:30 PM
Also the most recent polling has Trump winning among Latinos in Florida, way better than he did in 2016.
Its OK to just admit the premise that Joe Biden would do better with Florida Latinos than Sanders would do was retarded and unfounded, no ones gonna kill you for it.
Seeing as the biggest messaging hurdle for Biden with that group is the perceived alignment with socialists and radicals, I'm not sure how you can conclusively say Bernie would have done better.
Trainwreck2100
09-14-2020, 05:30 PM
I remember during the primary how much establishment Democrats like that stupid bitch Claire McCaskill were flapping about how we needed to pick Biden over Sanders because of how poorly Sanders would do with hispanics in Florida.
Kinda looks retarded right now when Biden is polling historically shitty with latinos across the country and especially in Florida, both Cubans and non-Cubans :lol
this fucking idiocy of kowtowing just to the blacks and just ignoring the latinos on the sidelines, who legit have no dog in this black vs blue fight. It's going to come down to how many latinos decide to vote against their interests like the non college educated whites have decided to do.
Older blacks show up and vote Dem no matter who’s on the ticket. It makes no logical sense to think those are votes the Democrats need to win over. As long as Bernie got endorsed by key black politicians like Massa Clyburn and civil-rights-activist-turned-Uncle-Tom John Lewis, the older black vote would show up for him.
:lmao “We already knew.” Typical establishment Democrat conventional wisdom. How did we already know? Did that scenario play out in an alternative universe or something?
I’d much rather depend on a candidate turning out young voters than a candidate who’s hoping to win on the historically unsuccessful strategy of winning the middle.
We knew because there were primaries in these states and he got smashed. lol
Unlike you, I would much rather go with voters that I know will actually vote. I will take them over hoping and wishing.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:34 PM
Seeing as the biggest messaging hurdle for Biden with that group is the perceived alignment with socialists and radicals, I'm not sure how you can conclusively say Bernie would have done better.
The fact that’s a messaging hurdle for Biden proves my point that nominating him didn’t offer the advantages MSNBC promised everyone it would. I thought the whole point of nominating Biden is so he wouldn’t need to overcome those hurdles.
Those are the hurdles with Cubans in Florida though, not the non Cubans in Florida. The non Cuban Hispanics in Florida are lethargic towards Jim Crow Joe for the same reason they are everywhere else in the country, they’re not inspired by him at all and they’re tired of hearing about how black people are victims.
ChumpDumper
09-14-2020, 05:34 PM
Older blacks show up and vote Dem no matter who’s on the ticket. It makes no logical sense to think those are votes the Democrats need to win over. As long as Bernie got endorsed by key black politicians like Massa Clyburn and civil-rights-activist-turned-Uncle-Tom John Lewis, the older black vote would show up for him.
:lmao “We already knew.” Typical establishment Democrat conventional wisdom. How did we already know? Did that scenario play out in an alternative universe or something?
I’d much rather depend on a candidate turning out young voters than a candidate who’s hoping to win on the historically unsuccessful strategy of winning the middle.But Bernie didn't turn out young voters even in the primaries.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:35 PM
We knew because there were primaries in these states and he got smashed. lol
Unlike you, I would much rather go with voters that I know will actually vote. I will take them over hoping and wishing.
I know, the Dems chose your strategy in 2000, 2004 and 2016 and it worked really well each time.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:38 PM
But Bernie didn't turn out young voters even in the primaries.
Im not talking about young voters, I’m talking about Hispanics. I constantly heard Biden had some secret sauce that would appeal to Cuban Americans. When’s he gonna start using it?
Spurminator
09-14-2020, 05:40 PM
The fact that’s a messaging hurdle for Biden proves my point that nominating him didn’t offer the advantages MSNBC promised everyone it would. I thought the whole point of nominating Biden is so he wouldn’t need to overcome those hurdles.
Those are the hurdles with Cubans in Florida though, not the non Cubans in Florida. The non Cuban Hispanics in Florida are lethargic towards Jim Crow Joe for the same reason they are everywhere else in the country, they’re not inspired by him at all and they’re tired of hearing about how black people are victims.
Non-Cubans are still motivated by comparisons to Petro, Chavez, etc. It's not an equal sum proposal, if Biden is at 46% among Florida Hispanics, Bernie's probably more like 30%. So you minimize the expected impact.
As to your last point, not sure what Bernie does to address that either. He's been more all-in on BLM than Biden has.
Meanwhile Biden may actually win the senior vote.
ChumpDumper
09-14-2020, 05:41 PM
Im not talking about young voters, I’m talking about Hispanics. I constantly heard Biden had some secret sauce that would appeal to Cuban Americans. When’s he gonna start using it?Whatever Biden did with Latinos against Sanders seemed to work in Florida. I'm not sure how Sanders was going to do better in the general.
What's your secret sauce for him?
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:42 PM
Non-Cubans are still motivated by comparisons to Petro, Chavez, etc. It's not an equal sum proposal, if Biden is at 46% among Florida Hispanics, Bernie's probably more like 30%. So you minimize the expected impact.
As to your second point, not sure what Bernie does to address that either.
Meanwhile Biden may actually win the senior vote.
Biden is only winning the senior vote because Trump has killed a bunch of seniors, not because of anything Biden did. If someone ran in an election against Hitler and won the Jew vote, it doesn't really mean that person does particularly well with Jews.
Do you have any polling data to back up that 30% claim, or is just more unfounded conventional wisdom?
ducks
09-14-2020, 05:42 PM
President Donald Trump on Monday enthusiastically embraced the idea of a four-hour debate moderated by podcaster and former ultimate fighting commentator Joe Rogan.
ducks
09-14-2020, 05:43 PM
But Bernie didn't turn out young voters even in the primaries.
They would rather fuck then vote
ChumpDumper
09-14-2020, 05:44 PM
They would rather fuck then voteYou wouldn't.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:44 PM
Whatever Biden did with Latinos against Sanders seemed to work in Florida. I'm not sure how Sanders was going to do better in the general.
What's your secret sauce for him?
My secret sauce with Sanders isn't running on the same milquetoast, just to the left of the Republican platform that's literally never won a general election.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:45 PM
President Donald Trump on Monday enthusiastically embraced the idea of a four-hour debate moderated by podcaster and former ultimate fighting commentator Joe Rogan.
:lmao an incumbent asking for more debates
ChumpDumper
09-14-2020, 05:46 PM
My secret sauce with Sanders isn't running on the same milquetoast, just to the left of the Republican platform that's literally never won a general election.Sure, but did Sanders win the Florida Latino vote in the primary?
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:49 PM
Sure, but did Sanders win the Florida Latino vote in the primary?
No, he also lost the South Carolina black vote in the primary. Are you saying that means he'd also lose the South Carolina black vote in the general?
I've also said previously that Florida (at least this year) is an expensive waste of time and resources. They don't need it to win the election and it's stupid to prioritize it over the rust belt/states with winnable senate races.
I know, the Dems chose your strategy in 2000, 2004 and 2016 and it worked really well each time.
You accuse me of that but you are on the same boat. Your prefered strategy has led to two failed bids to even make it out of a damn primary. So how is it you think you'd be succesful on a general election when you cant turnout/gain the support needed in a primary let alone for a general election?
That should be seeing as a red flag. Your job becomes that much harder when you're in GE mode. You'd then have to worry about not only getting your core bloc of voters active and engaged but also making sure they do go vote while also trying to get the people you failed to vote for you in the primary.
That adds up, Will.
ChumpDumper
09-14-2020, 05:52 PM
No, he also lost the South Carolina black vote in the primary. Are you saying that means he'd also lose the South Carolina black vote in the general?
I've also said previously that Florida (at least this year) is an expensive waste of time and resources. They don't need it to win the election and it's stupid to prioritize it over the rust belt/states with winnable senate races.So don't spend any money AND run the guy that openly antagonized the Cubans.:lol
Biden is a shitty candidate but Bernie really isn't any good either tbh.
Bogie
09-14-2020, 05:54 PM
Im not talking about young voters, I’m talking about Hispanics. I constantly heard Biden had some secret sauce that would appeal to Cuban Americans. When’s he gonna start using it?
Yikes you’re really moving goal posts here.
too many Bernie guys talk like this, but couldn’t energize the vote enough to get out to support him during the primaries. He got killed in the primary.
plus there is absolutely a reason Trump and the rest of the tards on here chant that bernie mantra. It’s because they wanted to run against him.
now dirks is just stupid and regurgitates what he’s told to. But the r’s abso fucking lutley wanted a national general against Bernie.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:55 PM
You accuse me of that but you are on the same boat. Your prefered strategy has led to two failed bids to even make it out of a damn primary. So how is it you think you'd be succesful on a general election when you cant turnout/gain the support needed in a primary let alone for a general election?
That should be seeing as a red flag. Your job becomes that much harder when you're in GE mode. You'd then have to worry about not only getting your core bloc of voters active and engaged but also making sure they do go vote while also trying to get the people you failed to vote for you in the primary.
That adds up, Will.
Yeah, Bernie can't make it out of the primary when the entire left wing media is clamoring about how "unelectable" he is and the DNC is doing everything it can behind the scenes to hamstring him. You're not even arguing in good faith when you pretend Bernie lost a primary that was managed fairly by the DNC.
I don't understand the logic that it's "much harder" when you're in GE mode. What was harder for Obama, the 2008 primary or the 2008 general election? You're just drumming up MSNBC conventional wisdom that has no empirical backup.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:57 PM
Yikes you’re really moving goal posts here.
too many Bernie guys talk like this, but couldn’t energize the vote enough to get out to support him during the primaries. He got killed in the primary.
plus there is absolutely a reason Trump and the rest of the tards on here chant that bernie mantra. It’s because they wanted to run against him.
now dirks is just stupid and regurgitates what he’s told to. But the r’s abso fucking lutley wanted a national general against Bernie.
:lol the Dems wanted to run against Trump in 2016. How'd that turn out? Picking your candidate based off who the Republicans do and don't want to run against is why the Democratic Party is such an incompetent shitfest that has no consistent platform and can't get anything done. It doesn't have any ideals, all it does is read and react to what Republicans do.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 05:58 PM
So don't spend any money AND run the guy that openly antagonized the Cubans.:lol
Biden is a shitty candidate but Bernie really isn't any good either tbh.
Focus on winning the states that will actually decide the election. Biden is going to spend a bunch of money in Florida and end up with as many electoral colleges from the states as I personally end up with :lol
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 06:00 PM
:lol I make a few comments about how Biden is fucking up in getting any hispanic vote, and the Biden supporters swarm the thread with :cry but Bernie would have been worse :cry.
Bernie has nothing to do with why Biden's campaign has failed so miserably in its outreach to the latino community, that failure is on Biden being a shitty candidate.
Spurs Homer
09-14-2020, 06:01 PM
irrelevant
biden is the one now
fuck cubans anyway -
they are the embarrassment of all latinos
Spurminator
09-14-2020, 06:10 PM
Biden is only winning the senior vote because Trump has killed a bunch of seniors, not because of anything Biden did. If someone ran in an election against Hitler and won the Jew vote, it doesn't really mean that person does particularly well with Jews.
Do you have any polling data to back up that 30% claim, or is just more unfounded conventional wisdom?
It's an estimate, but I don't think it's unfounded to say that if Candidate A polls at X% among a group of people whose biggest concern is socialism, then Candidate B, an avowed "Democratic Socialist" is going to poll below X%. Maybe it's 45%, maybe it's 20%.
Trump's loss with seniors is definitely COVID related but it's also demeanor related. Clinton still probably loses to him in 2020. They hated her. Maybe Bernie beats Trump with seniors too, but it's a wild card. I could easily see seniors voting against their own safety with a self-avowed "Socialist" on the ballot.
All of this is conjecture. I wish Biden had Bernie's energy and enthusiasm, and there's plenty to criticize the DNC for when it comes to their voter activation there. But I don't see any realistic scenario where Bernie Sanders performs better in Florida than Biden, regardless of the DNC efforts in that state. It's like starting a skinny 6 footer at center in the 1995 NBA because he's got "spunk" and your 7-footer is lazy.
Yeah, Bernie can't make it out of the primary when the entire left wing media is clamoring about how "unelectable" he is and the DNC is doing everything it can behind the scenes to hamstring him. You're not even arguing in good faith when you pretend Bernie lost a primary that was managed fairly by the DNC.
I don't understand the logic that it's "much harder" when you're in GE mode. What was harder for Obama, the 2008 primary or the 2008 general election? You're just drumming up MSNBC conventional wisdom that has no empirical backup.
I take umbrage to your passive aggresive insults. There's really no need for your false assumptions and shaming that I watch x and that's how I'm coming to my conclusions like I'm some kind of brainwashed fool.
That said, well now you're conflicting the two.
For all intent and purposes Obama really shouldn't be brought into this conversation because his campaign was a once in a lifetime type of deal and you know this. So who is now arguing in bad faith?
C'mon man, not again.
The DNC was unfair this cycle, how? Bernie won and was clearly the front runner for much of the first 2 months.
If you want to talk about fair or unfair. How many moderates were in this race that clearly impacted Biden the most? Bernie took advantage of the fact. And even then he was winning with like 30% of the vote.
Was there gamesmanship? Of course. You can even say favoritism but Bernie was never dissavantaged the way the moderates were.
Bernie and Warren should have done what the moderates did early on and guess what? Bernie would have won, going away. It's a bit disingenuous to point the fingers at them because they caught on first.
Either Warren or Bernie dropping out and consolidating their own power would have nullify what the moderates did.
:lol I make a few comments about how Biden is fucking up in getting any hispanic vote, and the Biden supporters swarm the thread with :cry but Bernie would have been worse :cry.
Bernie has nothing to do with why Biden's campaign has failed so miserably in its outreach to the latino community, that failure is on Biden being a shitty candidate.
I agree. It is incumbent on the Biden team to do the outreach and try to turn them out on election day.
There is still time for that. Your self defeatist and lash out attitude toward people who actually agree with you probably in the 90 percentile is a real drag.
Trainwreck2100
09-14-2020, 06:15 PM
Yeah, Bernie can't make it out of the primary when the entire left wing media is clamoring about how "unelectable" he is and the DNC is doing everything it can behind the scenes to hamstring him. You're not even arguing in good faith when you pretend Bernie lost a primary that was managed fairly by the DNC.
I don't understand the logic that it's "much harder" when you're in GE mode. What was harder for Obama, the 2008 primary or the 2008 general election? You're just drumming up MSNBC conventional wisdom that has no empirical backup.
This is bullshit he didn't make it out of the primary because he never expanded his base, he would have won if the DNC didn't convince all their candidates to drop out.
Trainwreck2100
09-14-2020, 06:18 PM
Biden is only winning the senior vote because Trump has killed a bunch of seniors, not because of anything Biden did. If someone ran in an election against Hitler and won the Jew vote, it doesn't really mean that person does particularly well with Jews.
Do you have any polling data to back up that 30% claim, or is just more unfounded conventional wisdom?
He's not helping himself with the seniors by trying to cut medicare and social security in every budget. That little nugget has been left off Dem talking points for some reason
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 06:21 PM
I take umbrage to your passive aggresive insults. There's really no need for your false assumptions and shaming that I watch x and that's how I'm coming to my conclusions like I'm some kind of brainwashed fool.
That said, well now you're conflicting the two.
For all intent and purposes Obama really shouldn't be brought into this conversation because his campaign was a once in a lifetime type of deal and you know this. So who is now arguing in bad faith?
C'mon man, not again.
The DNC was unfair this cycle, how? Bernie won and was clearly the front runner for much of the first 2 months.
If you want to talk about fair or unfair. How many moderates were in this race that clearly impacted Biden the most? Bernie took advantage of the fact. And even then he was winning with like 30% of the vote.
Was there gamesmanship? Of course. You can even say favoritism but Bernie was never dissavantaged the way the moderates were.
Bernie and Warren should have done what the moderates did early on and guess what? Bernie would have won, going away. It's a bit disingenuous to point the fingers at them because they caught on first.
Either Warren or Bernie dropping out and consolidating their own power would have nullify what the moderates did.
Warren was working with the "moderates" the same way she was in 2016. She did everything she could to undercut Bernie's campaign with the racial identity politics.
Pretty convenient to declare something "once in a lifetime" when it doesn't help your argument. That's kinda a derp tactic.
It wasn't gamesmanship, it was actively conspiring to stop one candidate. Obummer called Klobuchar and Buttplug and cut deals with them to endorse Biden the day before super tuesday.
More than anything it was biased media coverage. MSNBC commentators literally compared Bernie to the Nazis and called black women who supported him the "island of misfit black girls." Are you saying that's just normal campaigning :lol
This is bullshit he didn't make it out of the primary because he never expanded his base, he would have won if the DNC didn't convince all their candidates to drop out.
Could have won even if that was the case but convinced Warren to drop out and endorse Bernie.
They didn't think on their feet. They lost a primary that they should've won.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 06:24 PM
He's not helping himself with the seniors by trying to cut medicare and social security in every budget. That little nugget has been left off Dem talking points for some reason
The reason is they're incompetent. Establishment Democrats think the average American cares most about trans inmates getting free sex changes and illegals getting healthcare.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 06:25 PM
I agree. It is incumbent on the Biden team to do the outreach and try to turn them out on election day.
There is still time for that. Your self defeatist and lash out attitude toward people who actually agree with you probably in the 90 percentile is a real drag.
You call it a defeatist attitude, I call it an attitude that you should run like your 5% behind and leave no stone unturned regardless of what the polls say. Biden has clearly not done that.
ChumpDumper
09-14-2020, 06:27 PM
:lol I make a few comments about how Biden is fucking up in getting any hispanic vote, and the Biden supporters swarm the thread with :cry but Bernie would have been worse :cry.
Bernie has nothing to do with why Biden's campaign has failed so miserably in its outreach to the latino community, that failure is on Biden being a shitty candidate.I was only talking about Latinos in Florida. Bernie wouldn't do any better. You were hinting he would somehow.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 06:30 PM
I was only talking about Latinos in Florida. Bernie wouldn't do any better. You were hinting he would somehow.
So the best Democrats can do is be down 5 points to Trump among Florida latinos? If so that puts Florida out of reach no matter who the candidate is, and they shouldn't even bother to try and win it.
ChumpDumper
09-14-2020, 06:36 PM
So the best Democrats can do is be down 5 points to Trump among Florida latinos? If so that puts Florida out of reach no matter who the candidate is, and they shouldn't even bother to try and win it.Probably. Florida is fucking retarded. If there are paths to win without it, take them.
You call it a defeatist attitude, I call it an attitude that you should run like your 5% behind and leave no stone unturned regardless of what the polls say. Biden has clearly not done that.
He's up in 5 of the 6 battleground states. I'd say he's doing alright for someone who is not doing shit.
I do not disagree Biden needs to do something about hispanic voters. He simply cannot let Trump (WTF) gain traction with latinos. That to me is insane.
For all this back and forth, he is still shown with nearly a 3 point lead in Florida on averages according to 538.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 06:40 PM
He's up in 5 of the 6 battleground states. I'd say he's doing alright for someone who is not doing shit.
I do not disagree Biden needs to do something about hispanic voters. He simply cannot let Trump (WTF) gain traction with latinos. That to me is insane.
For all this back and forth, he is still shown with nearly a 3 point lead in Florida on averages according to 538.
He's running against a historically weak incumbent. If it were Obama or Slick Willy against Trump, this would be a blowout of 1932 proportions.
He can't even make headway with hispanics against a candidate who refers to hispanics as bad hombres :lol
The Democrats are doing everything to fuck themselves in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania right now though by holding up the mailing of absentee ballots because of a stupid court battle over green party candidates on the ballot.
Well look here just now.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/wisconsin-court-green-party/2020/09/14/cc0fd7fc-f685-11ea-be57-d00bb9bc632d_story.html
:tu
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 06:46 PM
Well look here just now.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/wisconsin-court-green-party/2020/09/14/cc0fd7fc-f685-11ea-be57-d00bb9bc632d_story.html
:tu
I still disagree with them taking the green party candidate to court and giving the corrupt Wisconsin Supreme Court a chance to ratfuck the election, but that's huge.
I still disagree with them taking the green party candidate to court and giving the corrupt Wisconsin Supreme Court a chance to ratfuck the election, but that's huge.
1305624975940911111
How massive was Jill Karofsky winning that seat in the Wisconsin SC this year? That's the difference here.
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 06:59 PM
1305624975940911111
How massive was Jill Karofsky winning that seat in the Wisconsin SC this year? That's the difference here.
They need an independent redistricting commission ballot initiative there yesterday. That state is a ground zero of where there's a Democratic majority among voters but Republicans have a stranglehold on political control in the state because of tactics the Democrats were slow to react to.
Trainwreck2100
09-14-2020, 07:03 PM
Could have won even if that was the case but convinced Warren to drop out and endorse Bernie.
They didn't think on their feet. They lost a primary that they should've won.
Warren was never going to bow out for Bernie and even if she did the polls at the time listed Biden as the number two preference to Bernie. Also she wasn't about to help the progressive wing, especially after their precious AOC undercut her ass.
The reason is they're incompetent. Establishment Democrats think the average American cares most about trans inmates getting free sex changes and illegals getting healthcare.
The tranny bullshit not being a thing till the gays got the rights to marry shows that there ain't no limit to the bullshit the Dems will want to come up with, instead of just focussing on workers not getting fucked by billionaires
Will Hunting
09-14-2020, 07:05 PM
The tranny bullshit not being a thing till the gays got the rights to marry shows that there ain't no limit to the bullshit the Dems will want to come up with, instead of just focussing on workers not getting fucked by billionaires
Pretty much. Their goal is to drum up one identity politics wedge issue after another to distract from how billionaires have taken over the Democratic Party over the last 30 years.
Winehole23
09-14-2020, 08:43 PM
Supreme Court slaps down the GOP's attempt to force the Green Party on the ballot in Montana.
1305631853253218305
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 09:40 PM
Trump’s unpopularity with Mormon voters is fracturing the GOP base —
and it could doom him
Donald Trump is making a frantic effort to win over Mormon voters —
a group that has cooled on the Republican Party since he became its standard-bearer, and
that could be an obstacle to him winning key Western states.
But many Mormons found Trump blasphemous, and
the church itself made thinly veiled statements condemning the candidate’s rhetoric on immigration and religious freedom.
Mormon support for the Republican ticket dropped from 80 percent in 2004 and 78 percent in 2012, to 61 percent in 2016, even as most other Christians moved further to the right,
there are two competitive states with large enough Mormon populations to matter:
Arizona and Nevada.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/trumps-unpopularity-with-mormon-voters-is-fracturing-the-gop-base-and-it-could-doom-him-report (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/trumps-unpopularity-with-mormon-voters-is-fracturing-the-gop-base-and-it-could-doom-him-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)
boutons_deux
09-14-2020, 09:57 PM
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tholdren
09-14-2020, 09:57 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119199286_184310823231926_5196553117041452546_n.pn g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=oslEKoaFk-cAX_YFEV-&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=059db1b6b580fab9236c65abfee6e7a1&oe=5F83F28A
great work.
0 cases
0 hospitalizations
0 danger
Has this been posted? Cute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnzPEyTpByU
ducks
09-14-2020, 10:19 PM
Trump’s unpopularity with Mormon voters is fracturing the GOP base —
and it could doom him
Donald Trump is making a frantic effort to win over Mormon voters —
a group that has cooled on the Republican Party since he became its standard-bearer, and
that could be an obstacle to him winning key Western states.
But many Mormons found Trump blasphemous, and
the church itself made thinly veiled statements condemning the candidate’s rhetoric on immigration and religious freedom.
Mormon support for the Republican ticket dropped from 80 percent in 2004 and 78 percent in 2012, to 61 percent in 2016, even as most other Christians moved further to the right,
there are two competitive states with large enough Mormon populations to matter:
Arizona and Nevada.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/trumps-unpopularity-with-mormon-voters-is-fracturing-the-gop-base-and-it-could-doom-him-report (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/trumps-unpopularity-with-mormon-voters-is-fracturing-the-gop-base-and-it-could-doom-him-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)
Fake news
Ef-man
09-14-2020, 10:50 PM
Fake news
Are you done raking the forest?
Afterwards, there is a hurricane that you need to nuke.
ducks
09-15-2020, 12:08 AM
https://twitter.com/SenateGOP/status/1305598194747936768?s=20
velik_m
09-15-2020, 12:14 AM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119199286_184310823231926_5196553117041452546_n.pn g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=oslEKoaFk-cAX_YFEV-&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=059db1b6b580fab9236c65abfee6e7a1&oe=5F83F28A
To be fair, judging from the photo, not many "latinos" actually attended.
Winehole23
09-15-2020, 12:22 AM
To be fair, judging from the photo, not many "latinos" actually attended.The AZ Latinos are not the same as the FL Latinos.
Biden leads in AZ.
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 05:26 AM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119213101_184325113230497_3202721098641194102_n.pn g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=HoqcbE-V_akAX-Rf_a0&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=13e73a41b373defde41705d3db41558c&oe=5F87319B
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 05:26 AM
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boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 05:54 AM
https://www.cdn-liker.com/uploads/post_images/5f609bcded2e7.jpg
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 05:58 AM
Trash tells CA officials to their face that it will get cooler, and their problem is forest mismanagement
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119488362_184173176579024_8415545278768282120_n.pn g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=vnFEs7U1vHcAX-Pmev2&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=8ebeabf9ba9a0e36876d1f0baaab1b0f&oe=5F84970D
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 06:02 AM
And the Dems do nothing
Judge rules Chad Wolf likely unlawfully serving as Homeland Security secretary and
temporarily blocks some asylum restrictions
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/politics/judge-chad-wolf/index.html
Trash/Repugs again PROVING if the Exec does something illegal, there is no punishment.
Repugs and their autocratic bullshit of "unitary executive" learning every day that there is no limit on how far they will go next time in power.
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 06:06 AM
https://www.cdn-liker.com/uploads/thumb/5f5ff3de031a1.jpg
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 06:30 AM
Trump faces ‘internal backlash’ from his own campaign over indoor Vegas rally
to hold an indoor rally in Las Vegas (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/trump-says-hes-not-worried-about-indoor-rallies-because-hes-far-away-from-potentially-infected-fans/) during the COVID-19 pandemic (http://rawstory.com/2020/09/it-makes-me-sick-doctor-buries-trump-for-holding-indoor-rally-as-toll-nears-200000/) didn’t just anger the president’s usual critics, but also some of his own campaign staff.
“a wave of internal backlash, including from a top Trump adviser who said the president was playing a game of Russian roulette in holding the indoor rally.”
The Trump adviser... Trump could hurt himself politically if there’s a surge in COVID-19 cases in Las Vegas over the next several weeks.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/trump-faces-internal-backlash-from-his-own-campaign-over-indoor-vegas-rally-report
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 06:50 AM
Asian Americans’ political preferences have flipped from red to blue
Asian Americans used to be a reliable Republican voting bloc.
they shifted to support the Democratic Party.
This is true across ages, genders and ethnic origins of Asian Americans – including Indian (https://theconversation.com/indian-americans-can-be-an-influential-voting-bloc-despite-their-small-numbers-144662), Chinese, Filipino, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese and Hmong.
Asian Americans preferred incumbent Republican President George H. W. Bush to Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton, a Democrat, by 24 percentage points – 55% to 31%.
73%-26% split in favor of Obama (https://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president/) over former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts in 2012, and
a 65%-27% preference for Hillary Clinton (https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls) over Donald Trump in 2016.
Preliminary data from late August 2020 polls (https://asamnews.com/2020/08/17/trump-behind-by-double-digit-among-asian-americans-in-new-apia-vote-apia-data-aajc-poll/) shows Biden leading comfortably among Asian Americans as well.
Since 2000, the Asian American population has climbed 87% (https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2000/dec/phc-t-15.html), now exceeding 22 million (https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=asian&tid=ACSDT1Y2018.B02011&hidePreview=false).
Asian American voting rates increased from 27% in 2014 (https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/05/01/historic-highs-in-2018-voter-turnout-extended-across-racial-and-ethnic-groups/) to 40% in 2018,
which is a big jump for a midterm election, showing an increased willingness to participate politically.
In that same period, the number of Asian Americans eligible to vote has more than doubled (https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/05/07/asian-americans-are-the-fastest-growing-racial-or-ethnic-group-in-the-u-s-electorate/),
making it the fastest-growing racial or ethnic group in the electorate.
Almost all Asian groups now back Democrats
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/asian-americans-political-preferences-have-flipped-from-red-to-blue
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 07:33 AM
Trash is broke?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a7SRrpCNl8&ab_channel=TheLincolnProject
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 07:34 AM
1305643977824108545
Will Hunting
09-15-2020, 08:13 AM
The "OH NOES! TRUMP HELD AN INDOOR RALLY!" news stories that CNN has been running on a never ending loop have gotten as dull as the "TRUMP SAID SOMETHING MEAN ABOUT TEH WOMENZ!" stories from 4 years ago.
If CNN/MSNBC really want to help Biden they should start talking about the economy.
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 09:44 AM
The "OH NOES! TRUMP HELD AN INDOOR RALLY!" news stories that CNN has been running on a never ending loop have gotten as dull as the "TRUMP SAID SOMETHING MEAN ABOUT TEH WOMENZ!" stories from 4 years ago.
If CNN/MSNBC really want to help Biden they should start talking about the economy.
‘Economic chaos’:
MSNBC’s Morning Joe keeps hearing worrying whispers from business leaders
bankers are predicting “economic chaos” and another depression for next year, no matter who wins the election.
he’s been speaking with contacts in the financial world who are worried that economic inequality will worsen next year, but he said that issue seems to be underreported by the media.
they all told me the same thing,
they say get ready for 2021,
it doesn’t matter who gets elected,
there’s going to be a depression,” he added.
“I keep hearing the word depression,
what they’re seeing from their clients are
people that have held out for six, seven, eight, nine months on the verge of collapse,
people that own property.
They’re all saying the same thing,
the rich are going to get richer,
the poor are going to get poorer,
cash is going to be king in 2021 and
there is going to be economic chaos again.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/economic-chaos-msnbcs-morning-joe-keeps-hearing-worrying-whispers-from-business-leaders
hater
09-15-2020, 10:41 AM
The "OH NOES! TRUMP HELD AN INDOOR RALLY!" news stories that CNN has been running on a never ending loop have gotten as dull as the "TRUMP SAID SOMETHING MEAN ABOUT TEH WOMENZ!" stories from 4 years ago.
If CNN/MSNBC really want to help Biden they should start talking about the economy.
:tu
Spurs Homer
09-15-2020, 11:24 AM
Which “war” did this “white house peace deal” propaganda -
end?
The imaginary war somewhere in the middle east that the arsonist in chief is taking credit for?
lol
”remember, what you are seeing and what you are hearing is not really what is happening!”
Cultists: “yes great orange buddha!”
Winehole23
09-15-2020, 12:07 PM
1305914543256875010
Spurminator
09-15-2020, 12:12 PM
The "OH NOES! TRUMP HELD AN INDOOR RALLY!" news stories that CNN has been running on a never ending loop have gotten as dull as the "TRUMP SAID SOMETHING MEAN ABOUT TEH WOMENZ!" stories from 4 years ago.
If CNN/MSNBC really want to help Biden they should start talking about the economy.
They're about ratings above everything, and unfortunately viewers are too stupid for discussions on the economy. They'll tune right out.
I guarantee most of the ad sales teams at those networks are hoping for a Trump reelection. He's great for ratings.
Will Hunting
09-15-2020, 12:17 PM
1305914543256875010
New CNN poll has Biden up by double digits in Wisconsin and a few points in NC as well.
We might finally be seeing an effect from the Woodward tapes.
Will Hunting
09-15-2020, 12:21 PM
They're about ratings above everything, and unfortunately viewers are too stupid for discussions on the economy. They'll tune right out.
I guarantee most of the ad sales teams at those networks are hoping for a Trump reelection. He's great for ratings.
I think it's that but also the fact the "liberal media" subtly pushes right wing economic theory. The last Biden interview I saw on CNN they asked him "How are you going to improve the economy if you're also increasing taxes on the wealthy!" which further engrains viewers with the idea that low taxes for rich people = great economy! The people controlling mainstream media outlets don't want viewers thinking wealth inequality is a problem.
Spurminator
09-15-2020, 12:21 PM
GOP candidates for congressional offices are apparently avoiding using Trump in their ads.
He's vote poison.
Will Hunting
09-15-2020, 12:26 PM
GOP candidates for congressional offices are apparently avoiding using Trump in their ads.
He's vote poison.
I'm in disbelief that all of the senate GOP candidates in tough races have done almost nothing to distance themselves from Trump (even Susan Collins would rather look like an idiot by refusing to say who she's voting for than take a stance against Trump).
After the 2014 shellacking and how bad the 2018 senate midterm map was for Democrats, I thought it might be another 10-15 years before we see a Democrat controlled senate.
New CNN poll has Biden up by double digits in Wisconsin and a few points in NC as well.
We might finally be seeing an effect from the Woodward tapes.
According to this poll, Biden's lead among latinos there is similar to Hillary's 2016 numbers. Only running 4 points behind her perfomance among latinos.
That's negligible. Still doesn't mean he needs to stop worrying about this group.
Will Hunting
09-15-2020, 12:39 PM
:lmao jesus, I didn't realize Don Blankenship is actually on the ballot for president this year
nW4cSKWPre4
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_FL_091520/
Read the breakdown. Trump is in trouble in Florida.
https://twitter.com/Scavino45/status/1305921885218263040
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1305872379441184768
https://twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/1305910063337529345
https://twitter.com/Scavino45/status/1305921885218263040
An indicted corrupted criminal politician and a future indicted corrupt Trump?
Is that what you're saying?
FrostKing
09-15-2020, 01:05 PM
The Negotiator
You love to see it
Winehole23
09-15-2020, 01:50 PM
Trump the peacemaker
1305941707134054401
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 02:12 PM
I read an economic prediction months ago
2020 is 2008
2021 will be 2009
Will Hunting
09-15-2020, 02:14 PM
I read a economic prediction months ago
2020 is 2008
2021 will be 2009
If no stimulus gets passed, 2021 will be way worse than 2009.
Spurs Homer
09-15-2020, 02:27 PM
lol
historic peace deal
but no one included the palestinians
talk about a “nothing-burger”
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 02:31 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119211667_184657076530634_8087336394078130857_n.pn g?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=xPvDCUevr1gAX-D9p_j&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=cf6eb2900c4d8b1ce09201dfcfe5c6fb&oe=5F88326A
https://twitter.com/Scavino45/status/1305921885218263040
I see two people that will end up in jail pretty soon in that picture.
https://twitter.com/nytpolitics/status/830482556739080197
Some of the comments bumps are golden :rollin
Will Hunting
09-15-2020, 04:58 PM
:lol broke campaign
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-14/trump-campaign-slashes-ad-spending-in-key-states-in-cash-crunch
Ef-man
09-15-2020, 05:29 PM
:lol broke campaign
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-14/trump-campaign-slashes-ad-spending-in-key-states-in-cash-crunch
Another bankruptcy, hate to see it.
:lmao
ducks
09-15-2020, 05:31 PM
Angels owner said it is very necessary to vote for trump
Spurminator
09-15-2020, 05:32 PM
Angels owner said it is very necessary to vote for trump
HUGE breaking news, thanks ducks, this changes everything.
Will Hunting
09-15-2020, 05:34 PM
Angels owner said it is very necessary to vote for trump
Ah ok great so another billionaire asshole who wants to screw poor people chooses Trump.
Ef-man
09-15-2020, 05:46 PM
Angels owner said it is very necessary to vote for trump
Will the owner also help you rake the forest?
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 07:46 PM
Bob Woodward Calls Out Trump Now Claiming He ‘Up-Played’ Covid:
‘We Are Living in an Orwellian World’
the first preview of the president’s ABC News town hall dropped, in which President Donald
Trump actually claimed that he “up-played” the coronavirus if anything.
contrast to Trump straight-up telling Woodward in one of their many taped conversations,
“I wanted to always play it down.
I still like playing it down,
because I don’t want to create a panic."
if we had received the kind of warning and this kind of ‘this is what you as citizens can do,’ this could be over.”
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bob-woodward-calls-out-trump-now-claiming-he-up-played-covid-we-are-living-in-an-orwellian-world/
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 07:51 PM
blaming China
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119196769_1034085840354343_5824579918197950362_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=89rW6a6DOmQAX-hV_CX&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=c4d2010e4d3e334689e2a61c5ec2cd0e&oe=5F8610AE
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 07:53 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119217548_1034077883688472_1022007298091616359_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=rytie61QU-AAX8-9RWu&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=ee84d2958a97d6f66e2f78cd14dfe13d&oe=5F879D1D
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 08:40 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119647947_184862489843426_3691794021612235916_n.pn g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=BduwmBlcxx0AX99h5ql&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=b286ea534574e3382fd1d7f41bbad60f&oe=5F851E62
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 08:48 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119520036_184731199856555_6680193995036285273_n.pn g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Ov0D6ZwUgKcAX8P8psx&_nc_oc=AQlO-rbz1dWAqP40eg9E8G5KGEC91xEurx-ec65zZYknf7y4zmp1BLLJDTOSja7as_E&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=b333b0d245a4ca096de91fd211483448&oe=5F851E86
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 08:53 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119450372_184633123199696_5817800563033473550_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=8qF_9KA6hywAX_SKILo&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=5c1e8205101ebc08084d49423edf2b62&oe=5F884A96
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 08:55 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119647131_184627003200308_9222956835350297895_n.pn g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=VQk0KimCfL4AX8ru-oi&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=61fdc63eda6123ceb761fb599a998152&oe=5F860AE9
Anyone watching this Trump town hall? Is going so bad for him.
:lol still shitting on John McCain, Kelly, Mattis and John Bolton.
Will Hunting
09-15-2020, 08:59 PM
Anyone watching this Trump town hall? Is going so bad for him.
:lol still shitting on John McCain, Kelly, Mattis and John Bolton.
What channel? I just read he literally blamed Biden for not being able to implement a mask mandate as if Biden was president :lmao
What channel? I just read he literally blamed Biden for not being able to implement a mask mandate as if Biden was president :lmao
ABC
What channel? I just read he literally blamed Biden for not being able to implement a mask mandate as if Biden was president :lmao
ABC.
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 09:02 PM
Trump reveals he has no regrets over 195,000 COVID deaths:
‘I think we did a great job’
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/fox-anchor-frets-we-dont-have-a-functioning-media-while-airing-conspiracy-theories-from-steve-bannon-group
boutons_deux
09-15-2020, 09:07 PM
U.S. Image Plummets Internationally as Most Say Country Has Handled Coronavirus Badly
Ratings for Trump remain poor
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/PG_2020.09.15_U.S.-Image_featured-1.jpg?w=640
America’s reputation has declined further over the past year among many key allies and partners.
In several countries, the share of the public with a favorable view of the U.S. is
as low as it has been at any point since the Center began polling on this topic nearly two decades ago.
Part of the decline over the past year is linked to how the U.S. had handled the coronavirus pandemic (https://www.pewresearch.org/topics/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/). Across the 13 nations surveyed,
a median of just 15% say the U.S. has done a good job of dealing with the outbreak.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/09/15/us-image-plummets-internationally-as-most-say-country-has-handled-coronavirus-badly
And Pootin LOVES how seriously his puppet Donnie has degraded the USA
Trill Clinton
09-15-2020, 09:22 PM
Anyone watching this Trump town hall? Is going so bad for him.
:lol still shitting on John McCain, Kelly, Mattis and John Bolton.
Yea this was a bad idea. He's trying to be likeable but its not working. He's bombing horribly.
ChumpDumper
09-15-2020, 09:23 PM
"Waiters!"
:lmao
Will Hunting
09-15-2020, 09:24 PM
"Waiters!"
:lmao
:lol not a chance this guy is going to be able to out debate Biden
He’s terrible. Gets asked an immigration question and then thinks the person’s mother died from
COVID and then goes on to talk non stop about remdesevir. Holy shit
Ef-man
09-15-2020, 09:26 PM
"Well I didn't downplay it. I actually, in many ways, I up-played it in terms of action"
Will Hunting
09-15-2020, 09:28 PM
I’m beginning to think Biden should agree to this Rogan debate, Trump looks like shit when it’s not a press conference he can simply walk away from if it’s not going well.
I’m beginning to think Biden should agree to this Rogan debate, Trump looks like shit when it’s not a press conference he can simply walk away from if it’s not going well.
Trump is going to WALK from the second debate which has always been in this type of format. He’s probably doing the first and third where he only has to deal with moderators.
Will Hunting
09-15-2020, 09:32 PM
Trump is going to WALK from the second debate which has always been in this type of format. He’s probably doing the first and third where he only has to deal with moderators.
If so then the first debate will basically decide the election, which is good for Biden imo. Most mail in ballots and early voting is going to take place between the 1st and the 3rd debate.
The one thing about Biden is he knows his limitations, he’s going to take debate prep as seriously as possible and will listen to his staff. Trump’s already said he’s not doing any real debate prep.
ChumpDumper
09-15-2020, 10:05 PM
:lol poor fella
1306066359705624576
Will Hunting
09-15-2020, 10:23 PM
:lol poor fella
1306066359705624576
:lol he’s completely lost the edge he had in the 2016 campaign when he could pull a rabbit out of a hat to win debates.
Biden has a town hall on Thursday on CNN.
Will Hunting
09-15-2020, 10:28 PM
Biden has a town hall on Thursday on CNN.
It’s a perfect setting for him.
Hopefully tonight doesn’t wake Trump up and make him realize he’s actually need to prep for debates.
ChumpDumper
09-15-2020, 10:28 PM
You had one job with this question, John.
1306055500056928256
It’s a perfect setting for him.
Hopefully tonight doesn’t wake Trump up and make him realize he’s actually need to prep for debates.
Don't worry. It won't. :lol
spurraider21
09-16-2020, 02:18 AM
:lmao hater
1305848320569626624
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 05:17 AM
Jared Kushner Not Sure Why You Chickenshits Are So “Hysterical” About a Virus That’s Killed 195,000 Americans
He also insists “the president was very forthcoming with the American people about what he knew and when he knew it.”
Kushner told Fox News:
“The federal government rose to the challenge and
this is a great success story.
And I think that that’s what really needs to be told.”
In the time
since young Jared claimed that the public health aspect of the pandemic was in the rearview,
almost 140,000 more people have died in the U.S.
Kushner told (https://www.today.com/video/jared-kushner-people-in-america-are-not-made-to-be-locked-down-91772997958) Savannah Guthrie that people should be thanking their lucky stars that a guy like Donald Trump is in charge right now.
“All the different challenges that people were hysterical about,
whether it was governors or the media, we worked with them very closely, and again,
it was very good to have an entrepreneurial president who doesn’t do things in a bureaucratic way.
He ran to all the different problems…
He confronted them seriously.”
“President Trump is not part of this ‘let’s lock down for perpetuity,’”
... Kushner explained, despite the fact that the question was about wearing masks and practicing social distancing in public.
I think that we’re seeing right now the president is leading with regards to the virus.”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/09/jared-kushner-covid-19-hysterical
200
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 06:07 AM
Trump hears an earful from voters.
the president traveled to Philadelphia for a town hall, broadcast by ABC, with voters who identified themselves as undecided.
And he heard an earful (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/nLWGdHRCOqMzdrS1UraIEQ~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRhRHPwP4REAWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lm55dGltZXMuY29tLzIwMj AvMDkvMTUvdXMvcG9saXRpY3MvdHJ1bXAtY2FtcGFpZ24tcmVl bGVjdGlvbi1jb3JvbmF2aXJ1cy5odG1sP2FjdGlvbj1jbGljay ZjYW1wYWlnbl9pZD05JmVtYz1lZGl0X25uXzIwMjAwOTE2Jmlu c3RhbmNlX2lkPTIyMjMzJm1vZHVsZT1Ub3ArU3RvcmllcyZubD 10aGUtbW9ybmluZyZwZ3R5cGU9SG9tZXBhZ2UmcmVnaV9pZD04 MDgyMTc5NyZzZWN0aW9uX2luZGV4PTEmc2VjdGlvbl9uYW1lPW JpZ19zdG9yeSZzZWdtZW50X2lkPTM4MjQwJnRlPTEmdXNlcl9p ZD05OTJkNjA4MjE0YjUwNTAwM2FhMDRiZjEwYTU5NTAzMVcDbn l0QgoAG_DuYV_Kp0VtUhNkYXJub2NuZWxAZ21haWwuY29tWAQA AAAA).
“Why did you throw vulnerable people like me under the bus?”
asked why Trump didn’t support a national mask mandate.
A third asked why he downplayed the virus.
Others asked about
racial injustice,
Trump’s attempts to take away health insurance from people and
his unpresidential behavior.
Trump responded with a flurry of falsehoods to defend himself.
(Here is a Times fact check (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/25gkgmhhqWJA-hQfInOBpA~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRhRHPwP4QeAmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lm55dGltZXMuY29tL2xpdm UvMjAyMC8wOS8xNS91cy90cnVtcC12cy1iaWRlbj9hY3Rpb249 Y2xpY2smYmxvY2s9c3RvcnlsaW5lX2xhdGVzdF91cGRhdGVzX3 JlY2lyYyZjYW1wYWlnbl9pZD05JmVtYz1lZGl0X25uXzIwMjAw OTE2JmltcHJlc3Npb25faWQ9NzBmYTNiNzMtZjdmZi0xMWVhLT g3NGUtMDVhYWI2ZjZjZGUyJmluZGV4PTImaW5zdGFuY2VfaWQ9 MjIyMzMmbmFtZT1zdHlsbi1lbGVjdGlvbnMtMjAyMCZubD10aG UtbW9ybmluZyZwZ3R5cGU9QXJ0aWNsZSZyZWdpX2lkPTgwODIx Nzk3JnJlZ2lvbj1pbmxpbmUmc2VjdGlvbl9pbmRleD0xJnNlY3 Rpb25fbmFtZT1iaWdfc3Rvcnkmc2VnbWVudF9pZD0zODI0MCZ0 ZT0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9OTkyZDYwODIxNGI1MDUwMDNhYTA0YmYxMG E1OTUwMzEmdmFyaWFudD0xX1Nob3cjZmFjdC1jaGVjay1wcmVz aWRlbnQtdHJ1bXAtcmVwZWF0cy1pbmFjY3VyYXRlLWNsYWltcy 1hYm91dC10aGUtY29yb25hdmlydXMtcHJvdGVzdHMtYW5kLWhp cy1vd24tcmVjb3JkLWluLWEtdG93bi1oYWxsVwNueXRCCgAb8O 5hX8qnRW1SE2Rhcm5vY25lbEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAAA~).)
He blamed Joe Biden for the lack of a national mask mandate. :lol
Trump also said,
“A lot of people think the masks are not good.” :lol
At different points,
he downplayed the virus and :lol
said that he had “up-played” it. :lol
He claimed he was beloved by South Koreans. (His recent approval rating there was 17 percent (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/rO6kRVKcjVw_6PiFD4_2Bw~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRhRHPwP4Q9AWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnBld3Jlc2VhcmNoLm9yZy 9nbG9iYWwvMjAyMC8wOS8xNS91cy1pbWFnZS1wbHVtbWV0cy1p bnRlcm5hdGlvbmFsbHktYXMtbW9zdC1zYXktY291bnRyeS1oYX MtaGFuZGxlZC1jb3JvbmF2aXJ1cy1iYWRseS8_Y2FtcGFpZ25f aWQ9OSZlbWM9ZWRpdF9ubl8yMDIwMDkxNiZpbnN0YW5jZV9pZD 0yMjIzMyZubD10aGUtbW9ybmluZyZyZWdpX2lkPTgwODIxNzk3 JnNlY3Rpb25faW5kZXg9MSZzZWN0aW9uX25hbWU9YmlnX3N0b3 J5JnNlZ21lbnRfaWQ9MzgyNDAmdGU9MSZ1c2VyX2lkPTk5MmQ2 MDgyMTRiNTA1MDAzYWEwNGJmMTBhNTk1MDMxVwNueXRCCgAb8O 5hX8qnRW1SE2Rhcm5vY25lbEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAAA~).) :lol
He said all Americans owned stocks. (About half do.) :lol
And he said the late John McCain, :lol
a war hero who was known in the Senate as an advocate for veterans, didn’t do enough for veterans.
“When @JoeBiden debates Trump, he’ll be faced with what’s on display tonight:
rapid fire falsehoods,
free-ranging personal attacks,
over the top claims of his achievements.”
Laura Ingraham described (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/nmN0ecGExrQ3--giIFmLrQ~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRhRHPwP0T3aHR0cHM6Ly90d2l0dGVyLmNvbS9DaHJpc01lZ2 VyaWFuL3N0YXR1cy8xMzA2MDYzODcyODEwNDU5MTM2P2NhbXBh aWduX2lkPTkmZW1jPWVkaXRfbm5fMjAyMDA5MTYmaW5zdGFuY2 VfaWQ9MjIyMzMmbmw9dGhlLW1vcm5pbmcmcmVnaV9pZD04MDgy MTc5NyZzZWN0aW9uX2luZGV4PTEmc2VjdGlvbl9uYW1lPWJpZ1 9zdG9yeSZzZWdtZW50X2lkPTM4MjQwJnRlPTEmdXNlcl9pZD05 OTJkNjA4MjE0YjUwNTAwM2FhMDRiZjEwYTU5NTAzMVcDbnl0Qg oAG_DuYV_Kp0VtUhNkYXJub2NuZWxAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAAA ) the event as an “ambush” by ABC. :lol
-- NYTimes email
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 06:10 AM
"Yesterday was arguably
Biden’s best day of state polls since the Republican National Convention
And a new ABC News/Washington Post poll (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/HdpTi-blFtmKf5dgZnYRAQ~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRhRHPwP4QTAWh0dHBzOi8vYWJjbmV3cy5nby5jb20vUG9saX RpY3MvY2xvc2UtY29udGVzdC13aXNjb25zaW4tbWlubmVzb3Rh LXBvbGwvc3Rvcnk_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9OSZlbWM9ZWRpdF9ubl 8yMDIwMDkxNiZpZD03Mjk5ODc1MSZpbnN0YW5jZV9pZD0yMjIz MyZubD10aGUtbW9ybmluZyZyZWdpX2lkPTgwODIxNzk3JnNlY3 Rpb25faW5kZXg9MSZzZWN0aW9uX25hbWU9YmlnX3N0b3J5JnNl Z21lbnRfaWQ9MzgyNDAmdGU9MSZ1c2VyX2lkPTk5MmQ2MDgyMT RiNTA1MDAzYWEwNGJmMTBhNTk1MDMxVwNueXRCCgAb8O5hX8qn RW1SE2Rhcm5vY25lbEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAAA~) this morning showed
Biden ahead by
6 percentage points in Wisconsin and
16 points in Minnesota.
In 2016, both states were extremely close, and Trump won Wisconsin."
-- NYTimes email
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 06:17 AM
corrupt, politicized, anti-Constitutional Barr abuses his power to harass another Trash opponent
DOJ launches probe into Bolton book for possible classified information disclosures
The agency has
convened a grand jury and
subpoenaed Bolton's publisher,
Simon & Schuster, for records related to communications surrounding the tell-all book, "The Room Where It Happened,"
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/516481-doj-probing-bolton-book-for-possible-classified-information
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 06:52 AM
Will this be a first time TRUTH or bullshit truthiness?
Trump Claims Coronavirus Vaccine May Be Ready Within Four Weeks
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-16/trump-says-coronavirus-vaccine-may-be-ready-within-four-weeks (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-16/trump-says-coronavirus-vaccine-may-be-ready-within-four-weeks?utm_term=OZY&utm_campaign=pdb&utm_content=Wednesday_09.16.20&utm_source=Campaigner&utm_medium=email)
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 08:09 AM
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Trill Clinton
09-16-2020, 08:18 AM
Straight checked his ass
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Dirks_Finale
09-16-2020, 09:12 AM
She sounds angry as hell, tbh :lol
The guy who said why did you throw vulnerable people like me under the bus hit much harder, tbh. Trump has no retort to that...not even a semi-reasonable retort. It's the reason he is the under dog as an incumbent, which rarely ever happens.
Straight checked his ass
1306047519974199298
She sounds angry as hell, tbh :lol
The guy who said why did you throw vulnerable people like me under the bus hit much harder, tbh. Trump has no retort to that...not even a semi-reasonable retort. It's the reason he is the under dog as an incumbent, which rarely ever happens.
Uh did you listened to what she had to say? Illness from birth, denied coverage because of pre existing condition through no fault of her own. She wanted to know why Trump wants to take that provision from Obamacare away.
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 09:48 AM
Trump accuses Biden of taking performance-enhancing substance
suggested Tuesday that his Democratic opponent Joe Biden has taken drugs to improve his performance in debates.
“something was strange” with what he saw as Biden’s improvement during the Democratic primary season debates.
“He’s taking something (that) you know, gives him some clarity, or whatever,” he said.
Trump repeated his demand that Biden should undergo a drug test before their first of three presidential debates scheduled for September 29.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/trump-accuses-biden-of-taking-performance-enhancing-substance/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5470
Trash projecting his own drug taking to slime Biden
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 09:59 AM
Michael Cohen:
Trump Is Afraid of a “Massive Tax Bill” If He Releases His Returns
he could end up owing large amounts in
back taxes and penalties once forensic accountants take a look at them.
The President’s former lawyer and fixer spoke to CNN (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/michael-cohen-reveals-trumps-biggest-fear-about-having-his-tax-returns-released-in-cnn-interview/) about Trump’s taxes on Wednesday.
He suggested they
would show Trump isn’t as rich as he claims
but that wasn’t his primary concern.
“He doesn’t report the income he claims (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/politics/trump-statements-of-financial-condition/),”
“His wealth is not as significant, and
I imagine they were probably lenient in how they took deductions.”
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/09/16/michael-cohen-trump-is-afraid-of-a-massive-tax-bill-if-he-releases-his-returns.html
Winehole23
09-16-2020, 10:34 AM
WE'VE TURNED THE CORNER
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boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 11:22 AM
Trash listing, down in the bow
https://external-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQBWYh8PQNH0EdmY&w=750&h=391&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Fodaction.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F09%2FTrump-townhall-1000-ppi.jpg%3Ffit%3D1000%252C525&cfs=1&sx=0&sy=1&sw=1000&sh=522&ext=jpg&_nc_cb=1&_nc_hash=AQD1appoXFIg9JI9
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 11:45 AM
Trump is desperately trying to distance himself
from his failed presidency
The man who once said, ‘I alone can fix it,’
now wants to recast himself as the president who wasn’t there.
Ronna McDaniel, chairwoman of the Republican National Committee:
“Joe Biden can’t run from his disastrous record responding to the coronavirus,” :lol
“The truth hurts, Joe!”
it’s a kind of weaponized nonsense in which
McDaniel ignores that COVID-19 is devastating America
not just on President Trump’s watch,
but also directly due to his own lethal negligence.
His campaign strategy is weapons-grade mendacity marinated in flop-sweat desperation.
“Truth is a victim in this administration.
I think it’s Orwellian —
the ultimate goal of this president is to get you to disbelieve what you’ve seen and what you’ve heard.”
all Trump can do now is shift the blame for his historic catastrophes.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/09/15/opinion/nominee-trump-vs-president-trump
Chris
09-16-2020, 11:46 AM
Straight checked his ass
1306047519974199298
Black people are special. Trump should have known better.
Trash listing, down in the bow
https://external-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQBWYh8PQNH0EdmY&w=750&h=391&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Fodaction.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F09%2FTrump-townhall-1000-ppi.jpg%3Ffit%3D1000%252C525&cfs=1&sx=0&sy=1&sw=1000&sh=522&ext=jpg&_nc_cb=1&_nc_hash=AQD1appoXFIg9JI9
:lol Trump bending space with this retarded posture.
Dirks_Finale
09-16-2020, 11:51 AM
Angry democrats in general, tbh. They emo like nobody else can emo.
The good news for Trump is that a lot of people didn't even know he had a townhall. Kawhi and Doc choking was the main attraction of the evening.
Black people are special. Trump should have known better.
The good news for Trump is that a lot of people didn't even know he had a townhall. Kawhi and Doc choking was the main attraction of the evening.
:lol This is what it comes down to for you guys? Hoping nobody was watching? Quite the strategy.
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 11:54 AM
Trump rips CNBC host for apologizing for insulting Nancy Pelosi
https://occupydemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/TrumpCramerApology.jpg
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Spurminator
09-16-2020, 11:55 AM
The good news for Trump is that a lot of people didn't even know he had a townhall. Kawhi and Doc choking was the main attraction of the evening.
So all of the conservatives who are boycotting the NBA because muh black supremacy suddenly decided to tune in for a WCSF game between the Nuggets and the Clippers on cable? :lol
I think you might live in a bubble.
Dirks_Finale
09-16-2020, 12:00 PM
I honestly didn't even know he had a townhall until I saw a clip on social media.
Their will be tons of build up for the debates and higher ratings. This was just another round of bad press for him which he has been enduring since the RNC ended. Won't move the needle. The debates, OTOH, probably will, one way or another.
:lol This is what it comes down to for you guys? Hoping nobody was watching? Quite the strategy.
Dirks_Finale
09-16-2020, 12:02 PM
So all of the conservatives who are boycotting the NBA because muh black supremacy suddenly decided to tune in for a WCSF game between the Nuggets and the Clippers on cable? :lol
I think you might live in a bubble.
And I think you might be a little confused on which voting block actually matters. The so called Independents are not boycotting the NBA. Try harder next time.
Trump rips CNBC host for apologizing for insulting Nancy Pelosi
https://occupydemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/TrumpCramerApology.jpg
1306244076065431552
Says the guy who is going the extra mile to pander to black voters.
:cry pls pick me pick me
clambake
09-16-2020, 12:08 PM
Herd mentality lol
He already created that
ChumpDumper
09-16-2020, 12:08 PM
Angry democrats in general, tbh. They emo like nobody else can emo.
The good news for Trump is that a lot of people didn't even know he had a townhall. Kawhi and Doc choking was the main attraction of the evening.Wait, they didn't boycott the uppity blacks?
[EDIT] :lol "independents didn't watch"
I actually believe Jim Cramer's defense.
Herd mentality lol
He already created that
Yeah, he created that a long time ago. Sadly, it doesn't translate into Herd Immunity.
I actually believe Jim Cramer's defense.
I dont.
But I also dont give a shit to whom he said it so it's a wash. :lol
Winehole23
09-16-2020, 12:33 PM
the yellow baiting is heinous, but fiscal stimulus would be all to the good.
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Will Hunting
09-16-2020, 12:34 PM
I honestly didn't even know he had a townhall until I saw a clip on social media.
Their will be tons of build up for the debates and higher ratings. This was just another round of bad press for him which he has been enduring since the RNC ended. Won't move the needle. The debates, OTOH, probably will, one way or another.
The townhall isn’t what’s going to be the issue for him, it’s the clips of the townhall that get shown on major news networks over the next few days/get used in political ads.
That aside, if he’s performing so poorly in a townhall setting, it doesn’t bode well for him in debates. He still doesn’t really know how to run as an incumbent.
Dirks_Finale
09-16-2020, 12:54 PM
The townhall isn’t what’s going to be the issue for him, it’s the clips of the townhall that get shown on major news networks over the next few days/get used in political ads.
That aside, if he’s performing so poorly in a townhall setting, it doesn’t bode well for him in debates. He still doesn’t really know how to run as an incumbent.
Right - he best prepare for the debates. I know that last cycle he got away with just winging it, but now he has an actual record to defend. And in regards to Covid, he needs a Bill Clinton-esque, I didn't have relations with that woman type of miracle.
Will Hunting
09-16-2020, 01:05 PM
Right - he best prepare for the debates. I know that last cycle he got away with just winging it, but now he has an actual record to defend. And in regards to Covid, he needs a Bill Clinton-esque, I didn't have relations with that woman type of miracle.
Iirc Kellyanne Conway reigned him in and got him to prep for debates last time around. I think he also took Hillary more seriously than Biden. He viewed her as a political juggernaut he needed to slay, he views Biden as a weak old man who he can outperform in his sleep.
Right - he best prepare for the debates. I know that last cycle he got away with just winging it, but now he has an actual record to defend. And in regards to Covid, he needs a Bill Clinton-esque, I didn't have relations with that woman type of miracle.
Biden needs to have a medical emergency for any of the debates to matter.
Short of that, you're not going to convince whatever undecideds that are left to vote for you given how little of them remain.
Spurminator
09-16-2020, 01:14 PM
And I think you might be a little confused on which voting block actually matters. The so called Independents are not boycotting the NBA. Try harder next time.
Just what kind of ratings do you think the NBA WCSF's did? Even before the boycotts and the pandemic, cable sports do not outperform prime time network TV unless it's a Championship.
Your "so called Independents" that are likely voters, however few of them there are left now, aren't viewing a Nuggets/Clippers match on cable in greater numbers than Prime Time network television.
Spurminator
09-16-2020, 01:19 PM
You would have been accurate if you had said more people were watching America's Got Talent.
But then again, :lol more people watched America's Got Talent than the President.
Will Hunting
09-16-2020, 01:19 PM
Just what kind of ratings do you think the NBA WCSF's did? Even before the boycotts and the pandemic, cable sports do not outperform prime time network TV unless it's a Championship.
Your "so called Independents" that are likely voters, however few of them there are left now, aren't viewing a Nuggets/Clippers match on cable in greater numbers than Prime Time network television.
This is kinda common sense, :lol the fact he needs it explained to him
If early round NBA playoff games had better viewer rating then network TV had, they wouldn't be on the cable channel that's known for Law & Order reruns.
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 01:34 PM
The political corruption of the Federal judiciary continues
‘Everyone in America should be outraged’:
McConnell quietly rams through more lifetime Trump judges while blocking COVID-19 relief
McConnell on Tuesday further advanced
his years-long project of dragging U.S. federal courts to the right
by ramming through three more of President Donald Trump’s lifetime judicial nominees and
teed up votes on several others.
“As McConnell blocks
the Heroes Act,
the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act,
election funding, and
dozens of civil rights bills,
his priority today (amid the pandemic) will be confirming three more Trump
judges after confirming three yesterday,” said Gupta. “It’s an outrage.”
the real-world consequences of Trump and McConnell’s takeover of the U.S. judiciary, which
will impact key areas of American society—from climate policy to voting rights—for decades to come (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/06/imperiling-progressive-change-long-we-live-one-five-federal-judges-now-trump).
the powerful U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit upheld a Florida requirement that state residents with past felony convictions pay off all court fines and fees before they are allowed to register to vote—
a ruling made possible by Trump’s appointees.
“The only reason it was upheld was because Donald Trump flipped the 11th Circuit with five Trump judges,”
This week, McConnell is going to confirm eight more judges to the federal bench, but they’re not doing anything else to help the American people.”
the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit—
which Trump also flipped with right-wing judges (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-02-22/trump-conservative-judges-9th-circuit)—
upheld (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/09/14/devastating-ruling-9th-circuit-upholds-trumps-termination-humanitarian-protections) the White House’s push to end “temporary protected status” (TPS) for hundreds of thousands of immigrants from El Salvador, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Sudan.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/everyone-in-america-should-be-outraged-mcconnell-quietly-rams-through-more-lifetime-trump-judges-while-blocking-19-relief
The oligarchy/Repugs strategy of controlling America as one-party autocracy continues
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 01:39 PM
Devastating research estimates 100,000 Americans would be alive if Trump had even an average COVID-19 response
the United States’ current death count could have been conceivably cut in half if the country had delivered even an average performance compared with other countries that are members of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD).
“overall virus cases per capita in the U.S. are now over four times higher in the U.S. than in the average high-income OECD country, while total deaths per capita are over twice as high.”
United States, which has also posted per-capita deaths this month that are five times the average of other OECD countries.
“Both U.S. employment and health outcomes during the pandemic have been worse than what we find in virtually all other high-income countries around the world,” he writes.
“Had we been as successful in each measure as the other OECD countries,
nearly nine million more Americans would be employed and
over 100,000 would still be alive.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/devastating-research-shows-100000-americans-would-be-alive-if-trump-had-even-an-average-19-response
baseline bum
09-16-2020, 01:39 PM
Iirc Kellyanne Conway reigned him in and got him to prep for debates last time around. I think he also took Hillary more seriously than Biden. He viewed her as a political juggernaut he needed to slay, he views Biden as a weak old man who he can outperform in his sleep.
Where did you hear he actually prepared for debates in 2016? If he did that's pathetic that he never called Clinton out for the Syria No-Fly Zone which would have basically gotten us into war with Russia. Can't believe she never got called out on that until the third debate, and then it was by Chris Wallace, not President Dotard.
Will Hunting
09-16-2020, 01:42 PM
:lol
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spurraider21
09-16-2020, 02:08 PM
:lol
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i get how mongoloids like derp get duped, but how does anybody in good faith hear this guy speak and think there is any semblance of intelligent thought in there? it's right fucking there. and then people like CN and DMC will still bat for the guy. truly astonishing
ducks
09-16-2020, 03:08 PM
Moderate Democrats pressure Pelosi, House leadership to move new coronavirus bill: 'Stop the stupidity
Will Hunting
09-16-2020, 03:25 PM
Moderate Democrats pressure Pelosi, House leadership to move new coronavirus bill: 'Stop the stupidity
House Dems passed a coronavirus bill back in May. McConnell still hasn't brought it to the senate floor.
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 03:26 PM
Trash's sheriff get crazier and scarier
Bill Barr Said Prosecutors Could Charge Rioters for Conspiring to Overthrow U.S. Government
charging Americans with sedition was on the menu of criminal statutes available to federal prosecutors examining how to charge violent protesters,
the attorney general “encouraged the prosecutors to seek a number federal charges, including under a rarely used sedition law, even when state charges could apply.”
the attorney general is succumbing to the “ever-present temptation to sacrifice the first amendment to stifle dissent.”
Attorney General Barr has said publicly that
Black Lives Matter and antifa (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/10/barr-fox-antifa-blm/) are “essentially Bolsheviks.” :lol
Barr called antifa a “highly organized” and “new form of guerrilla warfare”— :lol
the type of thing (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/guerrilla%20warfare) that would be covered by the seditious conspiracy statute.
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/bill-barr-said-prosecutors-could-charge-rioters-for-conspiring-to-overthrow-u-s-government/
Criminalizing dissent, Free Speech, and Freedom of Assembly, on the path to oligarchy/Repugs taking over America.
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 03:43 PM
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boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 03:48 PM
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boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 03:49 PM
https://mcusercontent.com/d5dce077ca077937100ce9d76/images/bcf3a64c-9c0d-4bde-a9bd-fbf7c85ca7d7.jpg
and of course, with 10Ms "You're Fired" in 2020 by The Trump-Made Pandemic, Ms more are now w/o health insurance.
weebo
09-16-2020, 04:02 PM
How many more L's is Trump going to take ? ....at this point, Trump supporter is like a Cleveland Brown fan....
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 04:41 PM
How many more L's is Trump going to take ? ....at this point, Trump supporter is like a Cleveland Brown fan....
50M+ at least will vote Trash
Trump just said Russia has a better voting system than ours. :lol
North Korea is forging ballots for the democrats. :lmao
-Trump
Bogie
09-16-2020, 04:50 PM
Black people are special. Trump should have known better.
You’re really stupid.
Dirks_Finale
09-16-2020, 05:08 PM
This is kinda common sense, :lol the fact he needs it explained to him
If early round NBA playoff games had better viewer rating then network TV had, they wouldn't be on the cable channel that's known for Law & Order reruns.
Just what kind of ratings do you think the NBA WCSF's did? Even before the boycotts and the pandemic, cable sports do not outperform prime time network TV unless it's a Championship.
Your "so called Independents" that are likely voters, however few of them there are left now, aren't viewing a Nuggets/Clippers match on cable in greater numbers than Prime Time network television.
Trump townhall drew a whopping 3.8 Million viewers.
Said basketball game drew 5.2 million.
This is a damn GM7 with the reigning FMVP we are talking about. Not a preseason game. :lol
And no I wont provide links. Look it up yourselves.
And I think there are more independents out there than you want to believe. Look at the lack of enthusiasm in the people who are polled and are leaning Biden. They are typically voting agaisnt Trump(orange man bad syndrome), not for Biden. So if some earth shaking sh1t happens, they could possibly be swayed.
Will Hunting
09-16-2020, 05:10 PM
And no I wont provide links. Look it up yourselves.
:lmao
ChumpDumper
09-16-2020, 05:10 PM
Trump townhall drew a whopping 3.8 Million viewers.
Said basketball game drew 5.2 million.
This is a damn GM7 with the reigning FMVP we are talking about. Not a preseason game. :lol
And no I wont provide links. Look it up yourselves.
And I think there are more independents out there than you want to believe. Look at the lack of enthusiasm in the people who are polled and are leaning Biden. They are typically voting agaisnt Trump(orange man bad syndrome), not for Biden. So if some earth shaking sh1t happens, they could possibly be swayed.So more people saw the highlights of the town hall than the actual town hall.
:lol that is not good for your Dear Leader.
Dirks_Finale
09-16-2020, 05:15 PM
So more people saw the highlights of the town hall than the actual town hall.
:lol that is not good for your Dear Leader.
Crushed peanuts compared to the 80 million who will be tuning into the debates(at least debate #1) and then seeing highlights from said debate.
ChumpDumper
09-16-2020, 05:18 PM
Crushed peanuts compared to the 80 million who will be tuning into the debates(at least debate #1) and then seeing highlights from said debate.:lol the thing is Trump gave Biden like half his talking points for the first debate in your "crushed peanut" town hall.
Dirks_Finale
09-16-2020, 05:19 PM
:lol the thing is Trump gave Biden like half his talking points for the first debate in your "crushed peanut" town hall.
:lol
You say that as if Biden were some sort of compenent individual with superior mental acuity :lol
boutons_deux
09-16-2020, 05:20 PM
"They Don't Care About You" -- G Carlin
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119422625_1034762860286641_6510239807771826274_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=AXt9OsFxehEAX-UIuX7&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=fe178622d1cbddd072883f7ac21aa714&oe=5F896E8E
Will Hunting
09-16-2020, 05:21 PM
:lol the thing is Trump gave Biden like half his talking points for the first debate in your "crushed peanut" town hall.
:lol he's also set expectations for Biden as low as possible. As long as Biden takes his B12 vitamins and doesn't shit himself on stage, all the low information voters are going to tune in and think "I thought this is the guy who can't put two sentences together, he doesn't sound that bad."
Will Hunting
09-16-2020, 05:22 PM
:lol
You say that as if Biden were some sort of compenent individual with superior mental acuity :lol
Trump's got a much better herd mentality than Biden has.
ChumpDumper
09-16-2020, 05:22 PM
:lol
You say that as if Biden were some sort of compenent individual with superior mental acuity :lol
That's just it.
He doesn't have to be.
That's just how bad last night was for your Dear Leader.
Spurminator
09-16-2020, 05:27 PM
Trump townhall drew a whopping 3.8 Million viewers.
Said basketball game drew 5.2 million.
This is a damn GM7 with the reigning FMVP we are talking about. Not a preseason game. :lol
And no I wont provide links. Look it up yourselves.
And I think there are more independents out there than you want to believe. Look at the lack of enthusiasm in the people who are polled and are leaning Biden. They are typically voting agaisnt Trump(orange man bad syndrome), not for Biden. So if some earth shaking sh1t happens, they could possibly be swayed.
Surprising but I stand corrected tbh. Obviously underestimated the strength of the LA Clippers bandwagon.
But remove California and Colorado viewers from both programs and my guess is the Town Hall had more of the remaining 18+ viewers.
Bogie
09-16-2020, 05:28 PM
The political corruption of the Federal judiciary continues
‘Everyone in America should be outraged’:
McConnell quietly rams through more lifetime Trump judges while blocking COVID-19 relief
McConnell on Tuesday further advanced
his years-long project of dragging U.S. federal courts to the right
by ramming through three more of President Donald Trump’s lifetime judicial nominees and
teed up votes on several others.
“As McConnell blocks
the Heroes Act,
the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act,
election funding, and
dozens of civil rights bills,
his priority today (amid the pandemic) will be confirming three more Trump
judges after confirming three yesterday,” said Gupta. “It’s an outrage.”
the real-world consequences of Trump and McConnell’s takeover of the U.S. judiciary, which
will impact key areas of American society—from climate policy to voting rights—for decades to come (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/06/imperiling-progressive-change-long-we-live-one-five-federal-judges-now-trump).
the powerful U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit upheld a Florida requirement that state residents with past felony convictions pay off all court fines and fees before they are allowed to register to vote—
a ruling made possible by Trump’s appointees.
“The only reason it was upheld was because Donald Trump flipped the 11th Circuit with five Trump judges,”
This week, McConnell is going to confirm eight more judges to the federal bench, but they’re not doing anything else to help the American people.”
the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit—
which Trump also flipped with right-wing judges (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-02-22/trump-conservative-judges-9th-circuit)—
upheld (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/09/14/devastating-ruling-9th-circuit-upholds-trumps-termination-humanitarian-protections) the White House’s push to end “temporary protected status” (TPS) for hundreds of thousands of immigrants from El Salvador, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Sudan.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/everyone-in-america-should-be-outraged-mcconnell-quietly-rams-through-more-lifetime-trump-judges-while-blocking-19-relief
The oligarchy/Repugs strategy of controlling America as one-party autocracy continues
this was always the plan. This also is why progressive’s laments about establishment Dems, when they never vote as a as bloc anyway, are nearly as responsible for what’s happened this century as the rwnj’s
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