What are you playing right now?

[apalisoc_9]

That bizza thing. Sounds like a Majima substorie :lol

[spurraider21]

Funniest one was when I bought Ratchet & Clank for $10 at Gamestop. Then they had this crazy promotion a week later where they were paying $20 for the game so I sold it back to them. Then PSN was running the game for $6 at the time, so I basically bought the game for -$4. :lol

Also in that promotion I sold them Bloodborne for $20, The Last of Us Remastered for $20, and Uncharted Nathan Drake Collection for $20. Then bought back my copy of Bloodborne for $20.55 after tax and my copy of The Last of Us Remastered for $20.55 after tax, then used their Buy 2, Get 1 Free deal on used games to get back my copy of Uncharted Nathan Drake Collection free. So basically $18.90 in store credit for letting them hold on to three of my games for about a minute and a half. :lol

Gamestop runs the stupidest promotions sometimes. There were people going and buying games at Best Buy and Walmart for like $20 and trading them in for $60 trade credit in that promotion. People were using it to get $450 Switch + Zelda + Pro Controller bundles for like $200 out of pocket, and this was when Switch was impossible to find in stores (hence the need to buy bundles). So sometimes you can exploit the hell out of that retarded company. :lol
im still glad you gave me that tip to get Horizon complete edition for $10 from gamestop :lol

[chunticakes]

It sounded like you didn't do the really funny parts of Yakuza 0. Like one of the substories is a little kid who desperately wants a porno mag so you have to sneak your way through this alley to the porno vending machine while not letting any of the judgemental mothers see you trying to buy it. Or another one where a Chinese hooker who can't pronounce things says she desperately needs a bizza so she can work in Japan so you go get her a pizza and her pimp flips out and says no one could be stupid enough to mistake a pizza for a visa.

I have a 20% coupon code for the Playstation store. You all don't like using your credit cards right?

[baseline bum]

I have a 20% coupon code for the Playstation store. You all don't like using your credit cards right?

I just buy the Playstation Store cards from Walmart, Gamestop, Target, Best Buy, etc. While part of that is Sony being on North Korea's shit list and always getting hacked, I always prefer handing over actual cash when possible.

[baseline bum]

That bizza thing. Sounds like a Majima substorie :lol

Nah, Kiryu. Most of the really funny shit is Kiryu getting in weird situations, though there are a couple of really funny Majima side quests too.

[chunticakes]

I just got God of War, Spiderman, and Shadow of the Collosus for $80. Not bad. I'll see you guys in a month :lol

[spurraider21]

I just got God of War, Spiderman, and Shadow of the Collosus for $80. Not bad. I'll see you guys in a month :lol
man, you missed out on black friday... i got my PS4 (not plus) + spiderman for $199 and ended up picking up God of War for about $21

[baseline bum]

nm

[baseline bum]

I just got God of War, Spiderman, and Shadow of the Collosus for $80. Not bad. I'll see you guys in a month :lol

:tu

SoTC is one of the best remakes I have ever played. Maybe the best.

[baseline bum]

man, you missed out on black friday... i got my PS4 (not plus) + spiderman for $199 and ended up picking up God of War for about $21

Kind of sad they don't do the big Christmas sales any more. I got mine for $220 back in early December 2016 with Uncharted 4. I wonder if we'll see PS4 Slim with TLOU 2 or Ghost of Tsushima for $149 this Black Friday. Gonna be hard to sell them otherwise when PS5 is probably getting officially announced in Spring 2020.

[chunticakes]

man, you missed out on black friday... i got my PS4 (not plus) + spiderman for $199 and ended up picking up God of War for about $21

I know. I got out of work and they were all sold out. I ended up with a decent consolation prize: a pro + RDR2 + a Gamstop $100 gift card.

[chunticakes]

Kind of sad they don't do the big Christmas sales any more. I got mine for $220 back in early December 2016 with Uncharted 4. I wonder if we'll see PS4 Slim with TLOU 2 or Ghost of Tsushima for $149 this Black Friday. Gonna be hard to sell them otherwise when PS5 is probably getting officially announced in Spring 2020.

I might do that and buy a slim to stash at my girl's house since she's living out of town right now. :lol

[spurraider21]

I know. I got out of work and they were all sold out. I ended up with a decent consolation prize: a pro + RDR2 + a Gamstop $100 gift card.
those "black friday" deals were live all week man. i picked mine up on sunday morning the first day they went into effect :lol... got my ps4 bundle from target since they opened earliest, picked up horizon from gamestop around noon, and got the rest of my stuff off the PS Store with my 20% coupon

it was quite a haul

[baseline bum]

those "black friday" deals were live all week man. i picked mine up on sunday morning the first day they went into effect :lol... got my ps4 bundle from target since they opened earliest, picked up horizon from gamestop around noon, and got the rest of my stuff off the PS Store with my 20% coupon

it was quite a haul

Too bad BF was such shit for Switch. The best Black Friday deals were Xenoblade Chronicles 2 for $35 and Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze for $35. When I saw that was the big BF sale for Switch games it just made me hack mine. :lol

[chunticakes]

those "black friday" deals were live all week man. i picked mine up on sunday morning the first day they went into effect :lol... got my ps4 bundle from target since they opened earliest, picked up horizon from gamestop around noon, and got the rest of my stuff off the PS Store with my 20% coupon

it was quite a haul

I work out of town in a shitty border town. All the fucking Mexicans come and take everything across and resell it :lol

[Joseph Kony]

LOL Anthem is an even bigger piece of shit than it looked like at E3.
very disappointing. i was really hyped for this game but after how awful Mass Effect Andromeda was i held off and im glad i did.

[Joseph Kony]

also :lmao that racket and clank is now being seriously talked about in this thread

[baseline bum]

very disappointing. i was really hyped for this game but after how awful Mass Effect Andromeda was i held off and im glad i did.

Man I could see that being a turd from a mile away when they first showed it at E3. There was no one clamoring for another Destiny.

[spurraider21]

also :lmao that racket and clank is now being seriously talked about in this thread
are you one of those douches that will only watch a movie if it reaches a certain rotten tomatoes score?

[Joseph Kony]

are you one of those douches that will only watch a movie if it reaches a certain rotten tomatoes score?

:lol No, i just think its funny because apalisoc would always post about rachet and clank and pokemon shit when he first started posting in the tech forum and DJR210 would always give him shit for it

[baseline bum]

OK, so don't fight niggas with purple energy bars in God of War. I climbed some tower and I had three motherfuckers attack me at once, all three able to one shot me. :lol

[baseline bum]

Damn now I want to beat these fuckers without leveling up. Got two of them to about half their life bar before getting stuck in a corner and one shotted.

[apalisoc_9]

OK, so don't fight niggas with purple energy bars in God of War. I climbed some tower and I had three motherfuckers attack me at once, all three able to one shot me. :lol

They're easy with a bit of practice. Dodging is your best friend. What skills did you priortizie? Use the boy...alot. he's a bit OP..

[apalisoc_9]

Man I cant wait for you to try out the challenges in the game. Some of them can be a total bitch :lol

[spurraider21]

Yeah... so i said fuck uncharted 2 and decided to start god of war instead, on give me a challenge. This game is gonna take a while :lol

the controls feel a bit clunky atm. Mostly because every other game I’ve played since getting a PS4 has square as melee. Spider man, TLOU, rdr2, Arkham asylum, ratchet and clank, uncharted 1

there isn’t much “story” yet, all i know if for some unknown reason we need to get to some mountain

[apalisoc_9]

Yeah... so i said fuck uncharted 2 and decided to start god of war instead, on give me a challenge. This game is gonna take a while :lol

the controls feel a bit clunky atm. Mostly because every other game I’ve played since getting a PS4 has square as melee. Spider man, TLOU, rdr2, Arkham asylum, ratchet and clank, uncharted 1

there isn’t much “story” yet, all i know if for some unknown reason we need to get to some mountain

Man I wish i can play GOW again for the first time. One of the best gaming experience ever.

[baseline bum]

They're easy with a bit of practice. Dodging is your best friend. What skills did you priortizie? Use the boy...alot. he's a bit OP..

These three the arrows and the axe do no damage. Basically I just have to throw the axe to build up my rage, then I can take out about 1/4 health bar from an enemy. Then rinse and repeat. The problem is this one fight takes place on a tower that has two cairns that are easy to get stuck on when dodging, so it's hard to keep dodging for 15 minutes without getting pushed to that side of the tower at some point, and then you roll backwards and you're stuck by the cairns.

[baseline bum]

Yeah... so i said fuck uncharted 2 and decided to start god of war instead, on give me a challenge. This game is gonna take a while :lol

the controls feel a bit clunky atm. Mostly because every other game I’ve played since getting a PS4 has square as melee. Spider man, TLOU, rdr2, Arkham asylum, ratchet and clank, uncharted 1

there isn’t much “story” yet, all i know if for some unknown reason we need to get to some mountain

Controls feel pretty tight to me, but I know what you mean about square. That shit tripped me up too for a while. Same thing with Bloodborne.

As much as I like Uncharted 2, the new God of War is far superior in every way.

[apalisoc_9]

These three the arrows and the axe do no damage. Basically I just have to throw the axe to build up my rage, then I can take out about 1/4 health bar from an enemy. Then rinse and repeat. The problem is this one fight takes place on a tower that has two cairns that are easy to get stuck on when dodging, so it's hard to keep dodging for 15 minutes without getting pushed to that side of the tower at some point, and then you roll backwards and you're stuck by the cairns.

I think i remeber those fights. Its a bit challenging at first.

Do you have parry now? Go to shield and get that skill. It makes the game a bit too easy though

[baseline bum]

I think i remeber those fights. Its a bit challenging at first.

Do you have parry now? Go to shield and get that skill. It makes the game a bit too easy though

Yeah I have parry. No way I'm using it in a fight with three guys attacking me at once and who can each one-shot me with their weakest attack.

[Xevious]

Took out my first valkyrie last night. I think I died like ten times lol.

I must be doing something wrong because I can't level up shit on Kratos. Every single category (except for rage) says my stats aren't high enough. The boy though I have maxed out. I'm trying to update my armor/axe whenever I can, so I'm not sure what else I can do.

[Xevious]

Yeah... so i said fuck uncharted 2 and decided to start god of war instead, on give me a challenge. This game is gonna take a while :lol

the controls feel a bit clunky atm. Mostly because every other game I’ve played since getting a PS4 has square as melee. Spider man, TLOU, rdr2, Arkham asylum, ratchet and clank, uncharted 1

there isn’t much “story” yet, all i know if for some unknown reason we need to get to some mountain
I thought the same thing about the controls tbh. It took a few hours and now they feel natural to me. The only thing I did do was swap the dodge and action buttons. Dodging with X felt really weird.

[apalisoc_9]

Took out my first valkyrie last night. I think I died like ten times lol.

I must be doing something wrong because I can't level up shit on Kratos. Every single category (except for rage) says my stats aren't high enough. The boy though I have maxed out. I'm trying to update my armor/axe whenever I can, so I'm not sure what else I can do.

Armor plays a huge part in levelling up. You level up based pn your gear and attachment

[Xevious]

Armor plays a huge part in levelling up. You level up based pn your gear and attachment
Yeah, I was talking about my skills. I can't purchase any new skills except in the rage tree.

[vander]

Been playing Cities Skylines. This game is great old school city builder but with really good graphics

It works fucking well and has millions of free mods. I just spent 5+ hours building a replica of NYC and it wqs fucking fun!

the economics is terrible though, there is no economics, you just make tons of money no matter what you do

[baseline bum]

Armor plays a huge part in levelling up. You level up based pn your gear and attachment

So have I already missed some epic armor if I got to the second dwarf brother and only have choice between board hide and reaver for the shoulder guard, belt, and bracers?

[apalisoc_9]

So have I already missed some epic armor if I got to the second dwarf brother and only have choice between board hide and reaver for the shoulder guard, belt, and bracers?

I cant remeber scrah. Its been a while. You dont miss out on anything. The brothers usually carry the mid tier armors or you can make them yourself. The real great armor is in the 75% of the game.

You can get by with mediocre armor at your current stage of the game

[ElNono]

det fight with Loki tho... <3

[apalisoc_9]

det fight with Loki tho... <3

Meh

The valkyries are the best fights. Not even close.

The Last valkyrie..hnnnng. GOAT

[ElNono]

Meh

The valkyries are the best fights. Not even close.

The Last valkyrie..hnnnng. GOAT

Oh yeah, from a challenge standpoint, absolutely. I went to fight them after completing the story, and you def wanna be well prepared.

The Loki fight just has epic cinematography though, it really feels like you're in a movie or something but still playing (kinda like the old God of War games). Really well presented.

[Xevious]

Something I didn't even notice while playing (probably because you're always entering and exiting the menu, dying, etc.), the entire God of War game, title screen to end credits, is one camera shot. Very interesting choice.

[apalisoc_9]

Oh yeah, from a challenge standpoint, absolutely. I went to fight them after completing the story, and you def wanna be well prepared.

The Loki fight just has epic cinematography though, it really feels like you're in a movie or something but still playing (kinda like the old God of War games). Really well presented.

I dont advice fighting the valkyries after the game. You will be too op. Only the last valkyrie shiuld be fought after imogene

[Joseph Kony]

lol the fights with the valkyries in GoW are like a normal boss fight in Dark Souls :lol

[baseline bum]

lol the fights with the valkyries in GoW are like a normal boss fight in Dark Souls :lol

So nothing as epic as Ornstein & Smough? Though Orphan of Kos in Bloodborne is still the GOAT boss fight.

[spurraider21]

OK, so don't fight niggas with purple energy bars in God of War. I climbed some tower and I had three motherfuckers attack me at once, all three able to one shot me. :lol
I got to exactly the same spot and just got through it. It had those 2 really quick guys and the one slow oaf. All of them one shot you and are unblockable. I definitely felt under leveled but just plowed through it.

I would just axe toss, dodge like crazy, and use runics. Once you take even the first guy out it all snowballs from there. I’ve just been rowing around the lake knocking out the towers before moving through the main story.

[baseline bum]

I got to exactly the same spot and just got through it. It had those 2 really quick guys and the one slow oaf. All of them one shot you and are unblockable. I definitely felt under leveled but just plowed through it.

I would just axe toss, dodge like crazy, and use runics. Once you take even the first guy out it all snowballs from there. I’ve just been rowing around the lake knocking out the towers before moving through the main story.

How long did it take you? The only way I could do any appreciable damage was rage mode. Otherwise it was just throw the axe for three or four minutes until building up the rage meter, go into rage mode, take a quarter health bar off one guy, rinse and repeat, and always screw up once and get killed with a weak forward attack that's the hardest one to dodge before I could kill anyone. Atreus was completely useless in the fight, though I hadn't leveled him up to where he starts choking enemies either at that point. I think in this tower all of them were quick though. I know there is at least one other tower like that in the lake also but I only bothered with trying the other one a couple of times.

If you like taking out hard enemies when underleveled I think you will really love Bloodborne.

[DJR210]

also :lmao that racket and clank is now being seriously talked about in this thread

:lmao grown 35 year old men playing it enthusiastically

[spurraider21]

How long did it take you? The only way I could do any appreciable damage was rage mode. Otherwise it was just throw the axe for three or four minutes until building up the rage meter, go into rage mode, take a quarter health bar off one guy, rinse and repeat, and always screw up once and get killed with a weak forward attack that's the hardest one to dodge before I could kill anyone. Atreus was completely useless in the fight, though I hadn't leveled him up to where he starts choking enemies either at that point. I think in this tower all of them were quick though. I know there is at least one other tower like that in the lake also but I only bothered with trying the other one a couple of times.

If you like taking out hard enemies when underleveled I think you will really love Bloodborne.
I didn’t come across a tower with 3 fast ones. And man i spent a good chick of time rowing around trying to find everything before moving on with the main objective.

I think i did help all the souls...

and yeah i relied a lot on axe tosses. I also had a habit of mashing square while i was doing my dodge rolls just so Atreus got whatever chip damage he could. I only triggered spartan rage once though. Once i took out at least one guy, Atreus was useful as a decoy allowing me to get some melee swipes in if only one guy was focused on me. It really slowballed after taking one out.

I just got to the second realm. I did the side quest for the dwarf and got a level 3 pommel which was nice. But I’m not inclined to dump currency upgrading my low level gear

[baseline bum]

I didn’t come across a tower with 3 fast ones. And man i spent a good chick of time rowing around trying to find everything before moving on with the main objective.

I think i did help all the souls...

and yeah i relied a lot on axe tosses. I also had a habit of mashing square while i was doing my dodge rolls just so Atreus got whatever chip damage he could. I only triggered spartan rage once though. Once i took out at least one guy, Atreus was useful as a decoy allowing me to get some melee swipes in if only one guy was focused on me. It really slowballed after taking one out.

I just got to the second realm. I did the side quest for the dwarf and got a level 3 pommel which was nice. But I’m not inclined to dump currency upgrading my low level gear

When I was fighting them the axe did no damage whatsoever, nor did Atreus' arrows. The axe wasn't even chip damage much less the arrows. :lol

All the souls were easy on the other hand.

[spurraider21]

the more i play god of war, the more i just keep thinking :lmao xbox :lmao

[apalisoc_9]

When I was fighting them the axe did no damage whatsoever, nor did Atreus' arrows. The axe wasn't even chip damage much less the arrows. :lol

All the souls were easy on the other hand.

I just arrows for distraction early in the game. But at some point in the game its going to be OP

[baseline bum]

the more i play god of war, the more i just keep thinking :lmao xbox :lmao

You weren't already thinking that with The Last of Us? :lol

[diego]

started up yakuza 0... i really liked shen mue games and this seems like a spiritual successor... but i think im just too old / busy for the long ass cutscenes, dont see myself getting too far on this one...

[spurraider21]

When I was fighting them the axe did no damage whatsoever, nor did Atreus' arrows. The axe wasn't even chip damage much less the arrows. :lol

All the souls were easy on the other hand.
also from my understanding, enemies will appear as purple if you are considered under-leveled for that encounter. i get that your character level is based on your weapons/gear... but ive always been something of a currency hoarder in these types of games. i dont want to be spending hacksilver upgrading shit tier armor when i know there will be more worthwhile stuff available later. so im constantly under-leveled with the exception of my axe... as you appear to get the frozen flames naturally as you progress. i recently got my axe to level 3 after beating some troll. i also got a rare pommel for finding the dwarf's green ring... the ability is shit but the stats are better than anything else available. it starts at level 3 so its nice for this part of the game

im usually pretty good at looking out for supplies, but to this point i havent been able to upgrade atreus' bow at all. just his quiver

[spurraider21]

You weren't already thinking that with The Last of Us? :lol
definitely. keeps amplifying though.

god of war just gets better and better as you go on. even in the beginning stages i was finding encounters to be difficult (give me a challenge) and yet very fun and addicting despite the combat being extremely limited at that point. as you progress and unlock more shit, the combat just keeps getting deeper.

i think as far as raw gameplay, this might be the best thing i've ever played (could also be a shitload of recency bias). one thing i'm not buying (at least so far) is that this game as a "great story"... only interesting aspect is the relationship between kratos and atreus, but TLOU just did that better. so far its still just a vague story of "we have to get to the top of the mountain because... reasons." that's not a very compelling story. maybe im still too early in the game to understand the bigger picture though

my other complaint is that you have to remember to backtrack very long distances because you dont have an item to deal with a certain obstacle early on, and fast travel only works one way at this point. despite the open world feel, the journey to certain locations is still very linear except for the lake itself

edit: i also laugh because i have one dipshit friend who went from PS3 to poorBox one and in the months before black friday was trying to convince me to get one too :lol

[Trill Clinton]

Anybody on apex legends on PS4?

[apalisoc_9]

Anybody on apex legends on PS4?

Yeah I am. I'm a 5/10 player though. I would say a good analogy to my skill level is Marco Bellineli in a spurs jersey

[spurraider21]

ive heard amazing things about apex legends, but im not going to get into any multiplayer time-sinks until im through all the notable single player experiences...

[apalisoc_9]

ive heard amazing things about apex legends, but im not going to get into any multiplayer time-sinks until im through all the notable single player experiences...

Yeah apex is addicting. :lmao

Best thing about apex is the quick transition from game to game. You die..but no worries 30 seconds you're playing a new game.

[baseline bum]

edit: i also laugh because i have one dipshit friend who went from PS3 to poorBox one and in the months before black friday was trying to convince me to get one too :lol

XBox is fine if you only care about MP games or are into driving games, but otherwise I can't understand buying one. Hopefully they have some decent shit next gen. The 360 was great the first half of last gen but Don Mattrick wrecked both the second half of the 360 gen and the entire XB1 gen trying to make the 360 and later XB1 a hybrid Wii+HTPC. I'm a little worried PSVR will be Playstation's Kinect though next gen. If they jack up the price to support VR we'll all be laughing at PoorStation 2020 and beyond. PS3 and XB1 showed without a shadow of a doubt consoles are extremely price elastic.

[Trill Clinton]

Yeah I am. I'm a 5/10 player though. I would say a good analogy to my skill level is Marco Bellineli in a spurs jersey


same here. i'm new but i play aggressive so i'm good for 2-3 kills a game at least.

[Chris]

Totally burnt out with anything FPS related. I think I might be done with the genre. I grew up with all the classics too - Wolfenstein, Doom, Quake, Half-Life (Counter-strike mod), Halo, COD:Zombies. It's just not fun anymore.

[apalisoc_9]

:lmao grown 35 year old men playing it enthusiastically


same here. i'm new but i play aggressive so i'm good for 2-3 kills a game at least.

Aggressive is the only way you can play in apex breh. Play any other way and you're team is losing.

[spurraider21]

Totally burnt out with anything FPS related. I think I might be done with the genre. I grew up with all the classics too - Wolfenstein, Doom, Quake, Half-Life (Counter-strike mod), Halo, COD:Zombies. It's just not fun anymore.
i feel the same way, but played COD almost exclusively from the end of high school through college. its not that it isn't fun... but getting back into it is daunting since so much of my ability to play was due to muscle memory. i was always an aggressive player so i really relied on quick-twitch reflexes. was never a sniper or LMG support kind of player.

i tried playing COD blackout with a buddy a few weekends ago an felt so out of my element.

[apalisoc_9]

Lol if we're speaking about skill level.

I completely gave up on Fighting games because of the huge gap.

You can easily beat the hardest difficulty AI but online..man once you get to silver you might asll give up.

[spurraider21]

Lol if we're speaking about skill level.

I completely gave up on Fighting games because of the huge gap.

You can easily beat the hardest difficulty AI but online..man once you get to silver you might asll give up.
100% agreed with respect to fighting games. i feel good after beating the hard AI, when ive memorized a few nifty combos and patterns, only to see the pro gamers string infinite damage combos with absurd block cancelling and shit. its nuts. but i've never played those even remotely competitively.

i used to hold up pretty well in COD multiplayer, but those games really shine when you play with a group. sometimes if ur running solo you can stomp a lobby if its full of other solo players.

[spurraider21]

at this point, i'm on board with apalisoc_9 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11260)'s Goat of War assessment. i dont think i've ever enjoyed a game this much.

last thing i did before going to sleep was beat the dark elf boss, so it looks like i'm about done with alfheim, which appears to be chapter 4 out of 17 :lol... as long as the remaining chapters are similar in length, i dont think im going to have any complaints of note. the difficulty on give me a challenge feels just right. i'll probably replay this on give me god of war, but only as NG+. i dont want to deal with absurd damage sponges with a level 1 axe and no abilities

baseline bum (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=131) based on the style of combat/difficulty, you think this game is a good launching pad for me to get into bloodborne?

[baseline bum]

at this point, i'm on board with apalisoc_9 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11260)'s Goat of War assessment. i dont think i've ever enjoyed a game this much.

last thing i did before going to sleep was beat the dark elf boss, so it looks like i'm about done with alfheim, which appears to be chapter 4 out of 17 :lol... as long as the remaining chapters are similar in length, i dont think im going to have any complaints of note. the difficulty on give me a challenge feels just right. i'll probably replay this on give me god of war, but only as NG+. i dont want to deal with absurd damage sponges with a level 1 axe and no abilities

baseline bum (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=131) based on the style of combat/difficulty, you think this game is a good launching pad for me to get into bloodborne?

Holy shit, Alfheim isn't even 1/4 of the way into the game? I'm there now. I think the combat is more difficult and more interesting in Bloodborne, but then again it looks like I'm not very far into GOW so I can't say for sure. I can definitely see some Soulsborne in the God of War bossfights so far though.

Really the only things you need to know for Bloodborne are:

1. Either rush to a boss or search for a Madman's Knowledge when you begin the game. Either one will give you insight (even if you lose to the boss), and you need one point of insight to start leveling up. Until then you're just spinning your wheels since all enemies (other than bosses) respawn on any death or save and all gear other than weapons is just for show.

2. Don't fight more than one enemy at once. There is no ranged attack to save you from multiple enemies ganging up on you. In fact the only useful ranged attack is throwing pebbles at individual enemies' backs to try to split them from groups. The guns are useful only for parrying.

[Joseph Kony]

Nier Automata Game of the Yorha edition just dropped so ima pick it up and play though Nier again on PC this time and play the DLCs since i havent played them yet. also ashamed to admit i never completed all the playthroughs so i have a lot of stuff to do still

[baseline bum]

Nier Automata Game of the Yorha edition just dropped so ima pick it up and play though Nier again on PC this time and play the DLCs since i havent played them yet. also ashamed to admit i never completed all the playthroughs so i have a lot of stuff to do still

The DLC isn't very good. It's just some arena fights, costumes, and one not so great robot story not involving any of the main characters. Holy shit if you only did the A playthrough though. The best parts of the game are in Playthrough C and beyond. Also only Playthrough B is really a repeat on anything, since it's the story of Playthrough A while controlling 9S instead of 2B. Though there is still plenty of added content in Playthrough B also. Playthrough A you get that nice sweet ending but the real story of the game is C-E.

It's kind of dumb they call them playthroughs but that's what they did in the first Nier on PS3/360. In that game you actually did need to play through the entire second half of the game again for each of the four endings.

[baseline bum]

Then again it might be funny to play Automata through in the Game of the Yorha Edition in Kaine's ultra slut costume. :lol

Kaine was quite the interesting character in the original Nier and you can see a few references to her in Automata. Emil too.

https://i-h1.pinimg.com/564x/89/6f/df/896fdfd48ee3e99bc29fa38aa1a44bf5.jpg

[spurraider21]

Holy shit, Alfheim isn't even 1/4 of the way into the game? I'm there now. I think the combat is more difficult and more interesting in Bloodborne, but then again it looks like I'm not very far into GOW so I can't say for sure. I can definitely see some Soulsborne in the God of War bossfights so far though.

Really the only things you need to know for Bloodborne are:

1. Either rush to a boss or search for a Madman's Knowledge when you begin the game. Either one will give you insight (even if you lose to the boss), and you need one point of insight to start leveling up. Until then you're just spinning your wheels since all enemies (other than bosses) respawn on any death or save and all gear other than weapons is just for show.

2. Don't fight more than one enemy at once. There is no ranged attack to save you from multiple enemies ganging up on you. In fact the only useful ranged attack is throwing pebbles at individual enemies' backs to try to split them from groups. The guns are useful only for parrying.
by chapter count, yeah. though that could be misleading. i wouldnt be surprised if these earlier chapters are among the longest, but who knows.

the reason i ask is just because this type of combat isn't really a genre i had played much, and as a result soulsborne seemed so foreign to me. definitely feels like god of war is at least getting my feet wet in that department though

[baseline bum]

the reason i ask is just because this type of combat isn't really a genre i had played much, and as a result soulsborne seemed so foreign to me. definitely feels like god of war is at least getting my feet wet in that department though

It's funny that I bought Bloodborne expecting to not like it at all. But PS4 exclusives were shit at the time (bought the system in anticipation of Horizon Zero Dawn and Nioh three months before they came out) and Bloodborne was $18 at Walmart and well reviewed, so I thought what the hell. Had I bought my PS4 now I probably would have never given Bloodborne a second thought with how many killer exclusives the PS4 has.

[Joseph Kony]

The DLC isn't very good. It's just some arena fights, costumes, and one not so great robot story not involving any of the main characters. Holy shit if you only did the A playthrough though. The best parts of the game are in Playthrough C and beyond. Also only Playthrough B is really a repeat on anything, since it's the story of Playthrough A while controlling 9S instead of 2B. Though there is still plenty of added content in Playthrough B also. Playthrough A you get that nice sweet ending but the real story of the game is C-E.

It's kind of dumb they call them playthroughs but that's what they did in the first Nier on PS3/360. In that game you actually did need to play through the entire second half of the game again for each of the four endings.

disappointed about the DLC but the rest is good to hear, i played the first two with 2B / 9S but didnt get further than that, so as good as the game is and as much as i like i know there is much more to come still, so $40 bucks for the complete edition for PC isnt bad, hope it isnt a shitty port though

[baseline bum]

disappointed about the DLC but the rest is good to hear, i played the first two with 2B / 9S but didnt get further than that, so as good as the game is and as much as i like i know there is much more to come still, so $40 bucks for the complete edition for PC isnt bad, hope it isnt a shitty port though

NieR Automata for PC is a truly horrible port and I don't think it ever got a single patch. It renders internally at something like 720p on the PC version running at 1080p crashes all the time out of the box. But there is a fan made patch that fixes all that shit. Don't you run a pretty high end gpu? On my GTX 970 I could make it run far superior to the PS4 version (which I also have), so if you're running something like a 1060, 1070, 2060, etc you're golden.

You'll need to get an unofficial fan made patch called FAR to run the game at native resolution and correct the crashing bugs. But with FAR you should have no problem running it at a locked 1080p 60fps. I had to turn down a global illumination setting to medium through FAR but if you have 1070 or better I doubt you'll need to. And FAR gets rid of all the crashes thankfully. Out of the box it's the worst port I have ever seen of a major game but thankfully the community saved it.

[apalisoc_9]

at this point, i'm on board with apalisoc_9 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11260)'s Goat of War assessment. i dont think i've ever enjoyed a game this much.

last thing i did before going to sleep was beat the dark elf boss, so it looks like i'm about done with alfheim, which appears to be chapter 4 out of 17 :lol... as long as the remaining chapters are similar in length, i dont think im going to have any complaints of note. the difficulty on give me a challenge feels just right. i'll probably replay this on give me god of war, but only as NG+. i dont want to deal with absurd damage sponges with a level 1 axe and no abilities

baseline bum (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=131) based on the style of combat/difficulty, you think this game is a good launching pad for me to get into bloodborne?

That fag was the very first annoying mini boss Room was too darn dark.

[spurraider21]

That fag was the very first annoying mini boss Room was too darn dark.
i thought the stage itself was fine. but he had a bunch of attacks that had the darkness effect, especially when he would throw the projectiles. but overall wasn't too hard imo, i think i might have just died once, then i learned that if im ever hit with the darkness stuff just keep rolling nonstop until you're over it

whats ur recollection of chapter lengths? based on my "chapter progress" i'm only about 25% of the way through. does that seem accurate?

[apalisoc_9]

i thought the stage itself was fine. but he had a bunch of attacks that had the darkness effect, especially when he would throw the projectiles. but overall wasn't too hard imo, i think i might have just died once, then i learned that if im ever hit with the darkness stuff just keep rolling nonstop until you're over it

whats ur recollection of chapter lengths? based on my "chapter progress" i'm only about 25% of the way through. does that seem accurate?

Its been a while. I do think the later chapters were significantly faster. Id say you're probably close to 40% than 25%. I could be wrong though. Its been a while.

[Joseph Kony]

NieR Automata for PC is a truly horrible port and I don't think it ever got a single patch. It renders internally at something like 720p on the PC version running at 1080p crashes all the time out of the box. But there is a fan made patch that fixes all that shit. Don't you run a pretty high end gpu? On my GTX 970 I could make it run far superior to the PS4 version (which I also have), so if you're running something like a 1060, 1070, 2060, etc you're golden.

You'll need to get an unofficial fan made patch called FAR to run the game at native resolution and correct the crashing bugs. But with FAR you should have no problem running it at a locked 1080p 60fps. I had to turn down a global illumination setting to medium through FAR but if you have 1070 or better I doubt you'll need to. And FAR gets rid of all the crashes thankfully. Out of the box it's the worst port I have ever seen of a major game but thankfully the community saved it.

Nice, thanks for the heads up. I have a 1070 yea, but im definitely going to download that unofficial patch :tu

[spurraider21]

Its been a while. I do think the later chapters were significantly faster. Id say you're probably close to 40% than 25%. I could be wrong though. Its been a while.
yeah, i mean i'd be pleasantly surprised if i was only actually 1/4 through the game, but i felt that would be unrealistic.

[baseline bum]

disappointed about the DLC but the rest is good to hear, i played the first two with 2B / 9S but didnt get further than that, so as good as the game is and as much as i like i know there is much more to come still, so $40 bucks for the complete edition for PC isnt bad, hope it isnt a shitty port though

Well there is one thing pretty funny about the DLC: you can fight the CEO of Square Enix and the CEO of Platinum Games in one of the arenas. Also LOL at the Kaine costume here. :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsNIcr5OHbE

[spurraider21]

even the side content in god of war is just massive. i traveled to veithurgard (not another realm, just one of the islands in midgard) which i hadn't discovered before, and my god, theres a lot of shit to do in this game. that area alone had a few different quests... taking down the statue of thor, the whole sequence with that dragon. the side content doesn't just feel tacked on. they feel as grand in scale as the main story.

i mean fafnir's hoard (one of the favors you can do for the dwarves)... as a side quest. its absurd

[vander]

That timeframe is bullshit anyway..


what's bullshit is they didn't even try to make it seem like Clair and Leon were operating in the same reality/timeline, how much harder would it have been to have Clair accomplish different things that aided Leon in the background?
man I was so disappointed when I had to unlock doors that should have already been unlocked, and fight that same guy in the same place...

[Xevious]

even the side content in god of war is just massive. i traveled to veithurgard (not another realm, just one of the islands in midgard) which i hadn't discovered before, and my god, theres a lot of shit to do in this game. that area alone had a few different quests... taking down the statue of thor, the whole sequence with that dragon. the side content doesn't just feel tacked on. they feel as grand in scale as the main story.

i mean fafnir's hoard (one of the favors you can do for the dwarves)... as a side quest. its absurd
tbh I'm having more fun with the side content than the main quest. The storyline is not that compelling, and I think I'm getting close to the end (though don't know for sure). The only thing driving me forward is that advancing the story is the only way to unlock new abilities and certain locations/quests. I'm having fun doing shit like fighting in the arenas on Muspelheim, trying to collect the necessary materials for certain gear, fighting Valkyries, etc.

[spurraider21]

tbh I'm having more fun with the side content than the main quest. The storyline is not that compelling, and I think I'm getting close to the end (though don't know for sure). The only thing driving me forward is that advancing the story is the only way to unlock new abilities and certain locations/quests. I'm having fun doing shit like fighting in the arenas on Muspelheim, trying to collect the necessary materials for certain gear, fighting Valkyries, etc.
the side content is massive tbh. the dwarf favors and dragon missions are incredible. i unlocked muspelheim but haven't gone in yet. i think i need another cipher for niflheim. my character is still fairly underleveled (i'm at level 3 now, and just spoke with the world serpent for the second time with our new... companion). mostly because i haven't leveled up any of my armor. i feel like its so stupid to waste resources upgrading armor when 1-2 missions down the line i'll probably just discover flat out superior armor somewhere in the world. and while there are plenty of ways to acquire hacksilver, the atreus bow upgrades and runic upgrades are expensive as fuck.

but my skill tree isn't that far off from being complete. i already completed boy's skill tree. at this point im basically missing the stance-switch skills and some of the spartan rage ones

[spurraider21]

i wonder what the future of gaming is gonna look like.

while the industry has clearly been shifting away from single player oriented games, imo the best games are still the AAA, high production quality single player games. granted, i've only had a ps4 for a few months, but games like TLOU, Red Dead 2, God of War have had me absolutely floored*. but those games aren't going to be the norm, and the massive production cost basically rule out indy developers from making games that can compete on that stage. god of war and red dead probably cost something like 200 mil or more to make, let alone marketing. the development of god of war lasted for like 5 years. these kinds of games cant be produced with regularity because of their scope. and one bomb like fallout 76 can derail them because they sunk so much money into making them. santa monica studios was ready to hang up god of war after ascension got lackluster reviews.

with the improving tech, companies are going to have to spend even MORE money to develop the highest quality games. if TLOU and Bioshock set the standard for the PS3, and if Red Dead/God of War/Horizon set the standard for PS4, what's the leap going to be for PS5? what are production costs going to look like, and how many copies are they going to have to sell to turn a meaningful profit? at current production costs, you have to sell several million copies just for this genre to be viable. i imagine with increases in production cost, we'll see less and less studios willing to develop these games, or they're going to have to increase prices from the standard 60 to something else.

tl;dr, i worry that these amazing big budget games are going to become more of an endangered species, which sucks because they're jaw dropping. before people played games and thought "hm, they should make a movie for this." but now, what's the point of a RDR2 movie or God of War movie? the game already accomplishes it.

*just gonna reiterate one more time... i legit think god of war is the best game i've ever played. i already know i'm gonna NG+ it immediately after i finish the campaign. and at some point in the future i'll come back and just play raw Give me God of War, which from everything i've read is substantially more difficult than NG+

[spurraider21]

also, witcher 3 complete edition is on sale at gamestop for $20

https://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/the-witcher-iii-wild-hunt-complete-edition/132185

thats tempting as fuck. i cant imagine it would get any cheaper than that even on black friday... although i told myself im just gonna buy games in black friday batches as a way to stay disciplined :lol

[apalisoc_9]

i wonder what the future of gaming is gonna look like.

while the industry has clearly been shifting away from single player oriented games, imo the best games are still the AAA, high production quality single player games. granted, i've only had a ps4 for a few months, but games like TLOU, Red Dead 2, God of War have had me absolutely floored*. but those games aren't going to be the norm, and the massive production cost basically rule out indy developers from making games that can compete on that stage. god of war and red dead probably cost something like 200 mil or more to make, let alone marketing. the development of god of war lasted for like 5 years. these kinds of games cant be produced with regularity because of their scope. and one bomb like fallout 76 can derail them because they sunk so much money into making them. santa monica studios was ready to hang up god of war after ascension got lackluster reviews.

with the improving tech, companies are going to have to spend even MORE money to develop the highest quality games. if TLOU and Bioshock set the standard for the PS3, and if Red Dead/God of War/Horizon set the standard for PS4, what's the leap going to be for PS5? what are production costs going to look like, and how many copies are they going to have to sell to turn a meaningful profit? at current production costs, you have to sell several million copies just for this genre to be viable. i imagine with increases in production cost, we'll see less and less studios willing to develop these games, or they're going to have to increase prices from the standard 60 to something else.

tl;dr, i worry that these amazing big budget games are going to become more of an endangered species, which sucks because they're jaw dropping. before people played games and thought "hm, they should make a movie for this." but now, what's the point of a RDR2 movie or God of War movie? the game already accomplishes it.

*just gonna reiterate one more time... i legit think god of war is the best game i've ever played. i already know i'm gonna NG+ it immediately after i finish the campaign. and at some point in the future i'll come back and just play raw Give me God of War, which from everything i've read is substantially more difficult than NG+

Triple A games will mostly likely be developed soleybfor the purpose of winnning customers over in the console wars.

Theres just way too much finanacial potential in multiplayer games for it not to be the main focus for big publishers.

[apalisoc_9]

Like we're talking billions of dollars potential.

I doubt triple A single player games can reach the billions $

[apalisoc_9]

Also Elnono works in the industry, apperently higher tech doesnt mean higher spending..iirc thats what he said.

[spurraider21]

Triple A games will mostly likely be developed soleybfor the purpose of winnning customers over in the console wars.

Theres just way too much finanacial potential in multiplayer games for it not to be the main focus for big publishers.
for the most part, yeah. there are the occasional multiplatform ones like what Rockstar/Bethesda put out, among some others.

but luckily it looks like Sony is committed to that idea and will continue to bankroll santa monica/naughty dog... insomniac makes a lot of their exclusives too. but commitment aside, i just question the viability with growing costs. or we just have to start paying more.

[apalisoc_9]

Also musphelheim was fun. I gotta go back and play the challeges in god of war mode.

Its challenging even in give me a challenge but once you get good, you need more challenges.

Theres an optional area in that thats also very challenging.

[spurraider21]

Also Elnono works in the industry, apperently higher tech doesnt mean higher spending..iirc thats what he said. ElNono

i came across this some time ago... was pretty interesting

https://www.raphkoster.com/2018/01/17/the-cost-of-games/

while the cost per megabit for developers has been going down... it does seem to have plateaued a bit. in the meantime, consumers are expecting to keep paying the same amount for more content

https://i2.wp.com/www.raphkoster.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Slide32-1.png?ssl=1

[apalisoc_9]

I have no problem with microtransactions personally. The idea that video games are getting more expensive is absurd. Most ps1 tittles i owned were 60 dollars and that was in the 90s :lol

If you consider inflation probably 100$ now.

But Fortnite isna saving grace though because it proves that you can make tons of cash adding microtransactions without tying your microtransactions to progression which EA and a lot of them dumb companies dont get.

[apalisoc_9]

Sell at 60. Add cosmetic microtransactions.

That probably makes up for everything and then some.

[spurraider21]

I have no problem with microtransactions personally. The idea that video games are getting more expensive is absurd. Most ps1 tittles i owned were 60 dollars and that was in the 90s :lol

If you consider inflation probably 100$ now.
im pretty sure that ps1/ps2 games were sold at $50. it was around the PS3 when $60 became the industry standard for the big games. dont get me wrong, i'm not complaining about current prices :lol... im just worried that the current model isnt really incentivizing good single player games. i mean at this point im glad i have a backlog because i had been out of the scene for a few years... but if i wasn't id just be rolling my thumbs waiting for TLOU2


But Fortnite isna saving grace though because it proves that you can make tons of cash adding microtransactions without tying your microtransactions to progression which EA and a lot of them dumb companies dont get.


Sell at 60. Add cosmetic microtransactions.

That probably makes up for everything and then some.
i think that could be a legit solution... people were buying the spiderman DLC's just so they can unlock new suits that had no abilities :lol. i imagine people would pay to change cosmetics of god of war armor, or the weapon flavor color of the axe, etc

[Xevious]

A lot of companies will probably follow Rockstar's formula - release a killer single player experience with a tacked on multiplayer option that microtransactions the hell out of players. But with all the big single player games on the horizon, it's hard to imagine them going away any time soon. But if they ever did, I'd be done with video games. I have no time or interest in playing a never-ending game that has me getting my ass kicked by a bunch of tweens over and over again.

[DJR210]

also, witcher 3 complete edition is on sale at gamestop for $20

https://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/the-witcher-iii-wild-hunt-complete-edition/132185

thats tempting as fuck. i cant imagine it would get any cheaper than that even on black friday... although i told myself im just gonna buy games in black friday batches as a way to stay disciplined :lol

If you're anything like me as far as game playing time is concerned, that's a fucking 4 year investment right there.. I just barely started Blood and Wine this year and I've owned the complete edition for several years.

[DJR210]

Microtransactions are fine.. pay to win, not so much. Here we are 13 years later and we're still seeing the impact of Oblivion's fucking Horse Armor DLC

[DJR210]

Also, starting to see the charm in Yakuza Kiwami.. On 4X super sample this shit looks amazing. The cutscenes are acted and animated well, and they should be considering this game is about equal parts playing and watching.

[baseline bum]

Also, starting to see the charm in Yakuza Kiwami.. On 4X super sample this shit looks amazing. The cutscenes are acted and animated well, and they should be considering this game is about equal parts playing and watching.

Damn that shit runs effectively 4k60 then on a 1060?

[DJR210]

Damn that shit runs effectively 4k60 then on a 1060?

I haven't hooked up to my 4K TV yet, but that's what I was thinking.. It's pushing about 85 FPS and NEVER drops below 60. The linear nature is perfect for 4K

[baseline bum]

I haven't hooked up to my 4K TV yet, but that's what I was thinking.. It's pushing about 85 FPS and NEVER drops below 60. The linear nature is perfect for 4K

I don't think you could run 0 at 4k60, but it should do 1080p100 most of the time from what I have seen. It's got some really cool backstory for Majima too.

[DJR210]

I don't think you could run 0 at 4k60, but it should do 1080p100 most of the time from what I have seen. It's got some really cool backstory for Majima too.

That's cool, 2X super sample looks great too.. does 0 actually look better? Or just run worse?

[baseline bum]

That's cool, 2X super sample looks great too.. does 0 actually look better? Or just run worse?

I just remember seeing benchmarks for 0 running mostly 1080p120 on a 1060 on the Digital Foundry channel if I remember right. I haven't seen what they look like for Kiwami. The graphics look pretty much identical in the two games, at when I played them on PS4. I guess I shouldn't be surprised a 1060 could run Kiwami at 4k60 when the scrub version of PS4 can run it 1080p60 with a gpu in between the HD 7850 and HD 7870 (but closer to 7870).

You definitely want to play 0 before Kiwami 2 though. Hopefully Kiwami 2 gets a PC release in the next year or so.

[baseline bum]

nm

[midnightpulp]

i wonder what the future of gaming is gonna look like.

while the industry has clearly been shifting away from single player oriented games, imo the best games are still the AAA, high production quality single player games. granted, i've only had a ps4 for a few months, but games like TLOU, Red Dead 2, God of War have had me absolutely floored*. but those games aren't going to be the norm, and the massive production cost basically rule out indy developers from making games that can compete on that stage. god of war and red dead probably cost something like 200 mil or more to make, let alone marketing. the development of god of war lasted for like 5 years. these kinds of games cant be produced with regularity because of their scope. and one bomb like fallout 76 can derail them because they sunk so much money into making them. santa monica studios was ready to hang up god of war after ascension got lackluster reviews.

with the improving tech, companies are going to have to spend even MORE money to develop the highest quality games. if TLOU and Bioshock set the standard for the PS3, and if Red Dead/God of War/Horizon set the standard for PS4, what's the leap going to be for PS5? what are production costs going to look like, and how many copies are they going to have to sell to turn a meaningful profit? at current production costs, you have to sell several million copies just for this genre to be viable. i imagine with increases in production cost, we'll see less and less studios willing to develop these games, or they're going to have to increase prices from the standard 60 to something else.

tl;dr, i worry that these amazing big budget games are going to become more of an endangered species, which sucks because they're jaw dropping. before people played games and thought "hm, they should make a movie for this." but now, what's the point of a RDR2 movie or God of War movie? the game already accomplishes it.

*just gonna reiterate one more time... i legit think god of war is the best game i've ever played. i already know i'm gonna NG+ it immediately after i finish the campaign. and at some point in the future i'll come back and just play raw Give me God of War, which from everything i've read is substantially more difficult than NG+

:lol it was supposed to be VR. Tried it, lived with it for a week, and was underwhelmed. Didn't find the "immersion" all that immersive (periscope effect, conscious of wearing the thing on your face, etc). I think where it suffers as a gaming device is that the VR concept revolves around putting you "more physically into the game." I see this as redundant because we have access to a far, far, infinitely superior way of physically involving entertainment. They're called sports and outdoor activities. Why would I waste my fuckin' time "throwing and catching" in something like Echo Arena when I could do it for real playing a sport? "Ooooh, but you don't get to role play as a futuristic athlete in a zero-G environment!" Yeah, I don't feel like a futuristic athlete in a zero-G environment. I know I'm sitting/standing around and lightly swinging my arms.

And traditional game mechanics don't translate to VR very well. We can say that great VR game mechanics haven't been developed yet, but VR tech isn't all that young. I think the controller/mouse + external screen is simply naturally superior for video games. Now, for racing/flight sims, VR proves its worth, but other than that, I find it lacking. Virtual tourism and such has great potential, however.

[baseline bum]

:lol it was supposed to be VR. Tried it, lived with it for a week, and was underwhelmed. Didn't find the "immersion" all that immersive (periscope effect, conscious of wearing the thing on your face, etc). I think where it suffers as a gaming device is that the VR concept revolves around putting you "more physically into the game." I see this as redundant because we have access to a far, far, infinitely superior way of physically involving entertainment. They're called sports and outdoor activities. Why would I waste my fuckin' time "throwing and catching" in something like Echo Arena when I could do it for real playing a sport? "Ooooh, but you don't get to role play as a futuristic athlete in a zero-G environment!" Yeah, I don't feel like a futuristic athlete in a zero-G environment. I know I'm sitting/standing around and lightly swinging my arms.

And traditional game mechanics don't translate to VR very well. We can say that great VR game mechanics haven't been developed yet, but VR tech isn't all that young. I think the controller/mouse + external screen is simply naturally superior for video games. Now, for racing/flight sims, VR proves its worth, but other than that, I find it lacking. Virtual tourism and such has great potential, however.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWOXeDulvsI

[apalisoc_9]

People hating on VR havent tried astro boy

[apalisoc_9]

Or re7

[midnightpulp]

People hating on VR havent tried astro boy

Just looked at the gameplay. Seems like a typical platformer. Where does the gameplay mechanics that can only be reproduced in VR come in? Looks like you can do everything the game requires on a regular screen, which I'd rather do than have to wear a helmet.

[midnightpulp]

Just read a little more about Astro Bot. Guess the selling gimmick is that you have to look around and find areas in which to guide the robot through, sometimes even requiring you to turn all the way around! You're also required to physically move your body in order to dodge objects. This is basically like a platformer on the Wii adding motion control gimmicks on top of traditional game design.

[apalisoc_9]

Just read a little more about Astro Bot. Guess the selling gimmick is that you have to look around and find areas in which to guide the robot through, sometimes even requiring you to turn all the way around! You're also required to physically move your body in order to dodge objects. This is basically like a platformer on the Wii adding motion control gimmicks on top of traditional game design.

You havet played the game.

[midnightpulp]

You havet played the game.

Also watched an in depth review. Looks like a solid platformer that incorporates some VR gimmicks (moving, looking around 360 space, etc). I'm not saying it isn't fun or good, just that it isn't a game that uses new technology to reinvent the genre or create a new genre, (for example, first person shooters were something completely new as hardware finally got good enough for improved 2D scaling (Doom) and then 3D proper). VR's uniqueness is centered around physically "putting you in the game," i.e. instead of controlling Solid Snake with a controller, you now to get to walk around your room, duck, go prone as you try to stealthily avoid enemies. I don't find any of that interesting since I'd rather do a real physical activity.

[baseline bum]

also, witcher 3 complete edition is on sale at gamestop for $20

https://www.gamestop.com/ps4/games/the-witcher-iii-wild-hunt-complete-edition/132185

thats tempting as fuck. i cant imagine it would get any cheaper than that even on black friday... although i told myself im just gonna buy games in black friday batches as a way to stay disciplined :lol

Fuck discipline, that game is amazing.

[baseline bum]

i wonder what the future of gaming is gonna look like.

while the industry has clearly been shifting away from single player oriented games, imo the best games are still the AAA, high production quality single player games.


I think you're a bit off and a little biased from having mostly played the big budget games this gen. NieR Automata had a pretty shoestring budget but was one of the most memorable gaming experiences I have ever had. Bloodborne is hands down my game of the century and was wildly profitable with 3 million copies sold, while you saw Square Enix ready to commit seppuku with the Tomb Raider franchise when Rise of the Tomb Raider only sold 7 million copies (and there is no way they make another after Shadow only sold a million or so, so far). Persona 5 is another incredible game that was hugely successful with 2.2 million copies sold. The Yakuza series games are considered low budget even by Japanese standards yet they're some of the most compelling games this gen. Japanese developers are proving you can make outstanding single player games without blowing your budget to hell and without having to go back to pixel art and old school design banking on gamer nostalgia.

[midnightpulp]

The real future of gaming is likely streaming services that connect to powerful local servers enabling everyone to have a "state of the art" gaming platform, what OnLive tried to do some years back. I don't think it'll work as advertised and probably be shit (for core gamers, casuals will won't care about slight frame rate drops, etc), but the prospect of cutting out hardware manufacturing costs and R&D is just too attractive a concept for Sony and Microsoft (consoles are typically loss leaders for software). Now instead of buying your 399.00 new console, you'll be paying 10.00-15.00 per month for the service on top of game purchases (they'll "sweeten" it by probably giving you one free [non-AAA] title per month). Think of it as current consoles being akin to DVD/Blu-Ray players and this future platform being like Netflix/Hulu, etc.

PC gaming will still revolve around physical hardware most likely, because the GPU manufacturers make their money by selling cards, although it's not out of the question for Nvidia or AMD to offer a similar streaming solution, but PC gamers probably won't bite in general since upgrading and building new machines is an essential part of the hobby.



Game subscription services have been around for decades. But with the Project xCloud service it announced last year, Microsoft is betting that it can take games like Halo, which have always required powerful consoles, and move all that processing to the cloud, allowing users to play these games on their phones. If it can pull that off, the tech giant could open itself up to a huge new audience and usher in a tectonic shift in the gaming industry.

If they can make it work decently via smartphones, then it's RIP consoles (again, I think it'll work relatively poorly compared to an actual console, but since the masses are so in love with their smartphones, if Microsoft or Sony can make it work passably, it'll be a hit).

[apalisoc_9]

Also watched an in depth review. Looks like a solid platformer that incorporates some VR gimmicks (moving, looking around 360 space, etc). I'm not saying it isn't fun or good, just that it isn't a game that uses new technology to reinvent the genre or create a new genre, (for example, first person shooters were something completely new as hardware finally got good enough for improved 2D scaling (Doom) and then 3D proper). VR's uniqueness is centered around physically "putting you in the game," i.e. instead of controlling Solid Snake with a controller, you now to get to walk around your room, duck, go prone as you try to stealthily avoid enemies. I don't find any of that interesting since I'd rather do a real physical activity.

That hell. Thats like sayig id rather play bball than play 2k. But we know even pro niggas love 2k :lol

[baseline bum]

The real future of gaming is likely streaming services that connect to powerful local servers enabling everyone to have a "state of the art" gaming platform, what OnLive tried to do some years back. I don't think it'll work as advertised and probably be shit (for core gamers, casuals will won't care about slight frame rate drops, etc), but the prospect of cutting out hardware manufacturing costs and R&D is just too attractive a concept for Sony and Microsoft (consoles are typically loss leaders for software). Now instead of buying your 399.00 new console, you'll be paying 10.00-15.00 per month for the service on top of game purchases (they'll "sweeten" it by probably giving you one free [non-AAA] title per month). Think of it as current consoles being akin to DVD/Blu-Ray players and this future platform being like Netflix/Hulu, etc.

PC gaming will still revolve around physical hardware most likely, because the GPU manufacturers make their money by selling cards, although it's not out of the question for Nvidia or AMD to offer a similar streaming solution, but PC gamers probably won't bite in general since upgrading and building new machines is an essential part of the hobby.




If they can make it work decently via smartphones, then it's RIP consoles (again, I think it'll work relatively poorly compared to an actual console, but since the masses are so in love with their smartphones, if Microsoft or Sony can make it work passably, it'll be a hit).

Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo will be dragged kicking and screaming into the dumb terminal era of gaming. Having expensive consoles is how they can be become middlemen taking a 30% cut of each game sale. The loss leader consoles are a great trade off when you can lock gamers into buying games on your platform you get to collect the tribute on, as most people don't buy multiple consoles per generation. Plus they also get a huge revenue stream charging $60 a year for online play. You take away those consoles and replace them with dumb terminals and there is no reason for there to be a Playstation or an XBox brand. Sony won't keep making loss leader first party titles like God of War when it's not going to lock people into their ecosystem the way it does now when you have to buy a PS4. A streaming future is a bland one, god I hope it doesn't happen for at least 15 years. Thankfully American internet being shitty might save the consoles for a while.

[baseline bum]

I gotta say I'm not nearly as into the combat in God of War as everyone else. Too many times I'll have five or six enemies attack at once, at which point only ranged attacks seem to make much sense. Then it's just dodge roll and spam square repeatedly as well as axe throw if the arrow behind me isn't red. The game started out pretty hard on the give me a challenge mode but has gotten super easy with only a few upgrades to Atreus. I'm finding the combat much less interesting than Nioh much less Bloodborne and give me a challenge doesn't feel any different from casual other than making the enemies hit harder. Game is beautiful graphically and the story is pretty cool too but Atreus makes the game too easy IMO. Though maybe that's the point of the game? That Atreus is the real badass? I did love the part when you walk into the light for what seems like a minute or two and Atreus drags you out saying you have been in there forever and then you see the corpses of all these enemies he slayed while you were gone.

[midnightpulp]

That hell. Thats like sayig id rather play bball than play 2k. But we know even pro niggas love 2k :lol

Sports games are still video games in that use your hands and a controller to play them. I'm talking about "full body" experiences, whether it be through VR, the Kinect, or Wii motion controls. Why would I want to mimic basketball actions in a VR/Kinect basketball game when I can just step outside and do the real thing, which is infinitely better? Now for sit down sims (racing, flight, mech, etc), VR is the platform. I would buy a headset for those, but unfortunately, I find VR headsets underwhelming.

[midnightpulp]

Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo will be dragged kicking and screaming into the dumb terminal era of gaming. Having expensive consoles is how they can be become middlemen taking a 30% cut of each game sale. The loss leader consoles are a great trade off when you can lock gamers into buying games on your platform you get to collect the tribute on, as most people don't buy multiple consoles per generation. Plus they also get a huge revenue stream charging $60 a year for online play. You take away those consoles and replace them with dumb terminals and there is no reason for there to be a Playstation or an XBox brand.Sony won't keep making loss leader first party titles like God of War when it's not going to lock people into their ecosystem the way it does now when you have to buy a PS4. A streaming future is a bland one, god I hope it doesn't happen for at least 15 years. Thankfully American internet being shitty might save the consoles for a while.

The brand will become their service (e.g. like the Netflix brand, Hulu brand, Amazon video brand, etc). Microsoft, I believe, seems to want it to happen. Why wouldn't they make loss leader titles? "Hey, check out this amazing game we sunk a billion dollars into. Only available on PlayStation Streaming! Sign up now for 120.00 per year!" Something like that.

You're right. Streaming sucks. In all forms. People think streaming services (Netflix, et al) are going to save us from the "eviillllll cable companies," but the end game of the streaming model is an endless amount of separate services that will all be charging a premium for their content. As I'm sure you know, the cable subscription model makes money for content providers by subsidizing the cost across customers (i.e. you might not watch Turner Classic Movies, but you're still paying for it/paying for someone else to watch it, while that person is paying for you to watch the NBA network). "Cable cutters" are lacking foresight in thinking all they need is Netlfix, Hulu or Amazon Prime to watch their AMC, HBO, et al shows. But if the cable model dies, so does the majority of AMC and HBO's profit. So what will happen is that these providers will either charge an obscene amount to the streaming services to license their content (which will increase price of the streaming service) or simply create their own streaming services. Disney has already done so.

So rather than pay 100-150.00 per month for cable (about the average cost in the US) that includes a variety of sports, movie, lifestyle channels, the "clever" cord cutter is going to be paying: 15.00 for Netlfix and 9.99 for Hulu. But wait. Shark Tank is now only available on ABC streaming? 7.99 per month. Shit! This is Us is now only available on NBC streaming? 7.99 per month. Pawn Stars only available on History streaming. 5.99 per month. And on and on. Cable companies are also ISP providers, so if they start to lose significant revenue from declining cable subscriptions, they'll just jack up their ISP price.

https://www.wired.com/story/give-me-a-bundle-for-cord-cutters/

[baseline bum]

The brand will become their service (e.g. like the Netflix brand, Hulu brand, Amazon video brand, etc). Microsoft, I believe, seems to want it to happen. Why wouldn't they make loss leader titles? "Hey, check out this amazing game we sunk a billion dollars into. Only available on PlayStation Streaming! Sign up now for 120.00 per year!" Something like that.

You're right. Streaming sucks. In all forms. People think streaming services (Netflix, et al) are going to save us from the "eviillllll cable companies," but the end game of the streaming model is an endless amount of separate services that will all be charging a premium for their content. As I'm sure you know, the cable subscription model makes money for content providers by subsidizing the cost across customers (i.e. you might not watch Turner Classic Movies, but you're still paying for it/paying for someone else to watch it, while that person is paying for you to watch the NBA network). "Cable cutters" are lacking foresight in thinking all they need is Netlfix, Hulu or Amazon Prime to watch their AMC, HBO, et al shows. But if the cable model dies, so does the majority of AMC and HBO's profit. So what will happen is that these providers will either charge an obscene amount to the streaming services to license their content (which will increase price of the streaming service) or simply create their own streaming services. Disney has already done so.

So rather than pay 100-150.00 per month for cable (about the average cost in the US) that includes a variety of sports, movie, lifestyle channels, the "clever" cord cutter is going to be paying: 15.00 for Netlfix and 9.99 for Hulu. But wait. Shark Tank is now only available on ABC streaming? 7.99 per month. Shit! This is Us is now only available on NBC streaming? 7.99 per month. Pawn Stars only available on History streaming. 5.99 per month. And on and on. Cable companies are also ISP providers, so if they start to lose significant revenue from declining cable subscriptions, they'll just jack up their ISP price.

https://www.wired.com/story/give-me-a-bundle-for-cord-cutters/

You're kind of making the argument for me. There will be no reason for there to be an XBox or Playstation brand because exactly what you said about a la carte TV will happen with gaming. Ubisoft will stream their games only over UPlay, Epic over Epic Game Store, EA over Origin Access, and so on. You already see this fragmentation exploding on PC. Sony isn't making expensive loss leader games if they don't get to put their hand into the pot you pay into for every game like they do now if you have already bought into their ecosystem by buying the console. With dumb terminals and streaming Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo all lose those lucrative streams they get being the middleman for cash cow games like Call of Duty, FIFA, NBA 2k, Fortnite, etc through yearly purchases and microtransactions. That's where the real money seems to be in the industry based on how much bigger the digital sales pie keeps getting vs physical sales every year for consoles. With streaming and dumb terminals there is no need for a middleman. I don't see why Sony and Microsoft would ever embrace getting rid of themselves as that middle man. Microsoft is talking streaming but it's still with an XBox which will likely still do a lot on the local machine. They have been talking unloading the most computationally expensive calculations (eg for physics effects) to central servers ever since they launched the XBox One, and that's what I'm expecting out of their cheaper hybrid online/local machines they're talking about for next gen.

[midnightpulp]

You're kind of making the argument for me. There will be no reason for there to be an XBox or Playstation brand because exactly what you said about a la carte TV will happen with gaming. Ubisoft will stream their games only over UPlay, Epic over Epic Game Store, EA over Origin Access, and so on. You already see this fragmentation exploding on PC. Sony isn't making expensive loss leader games if they don't get to put their hand into the pot you pay into for every game like they do now if you have already bought into their ecosystem by buying the console. With dumb terminals and streaming Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo all lose those lucrative streams they get being the middleman for cash cow games like Call of Duty, FIFA, NBA 2k, Fortnite, etc through yearly purchases and microtransactions. That's where the real money seems to be in the industry based on how much bigger the digital sales pie keeps getting vs physical sales every year for consoles. With streaming and dumb terminals there is no need for a middleman. I don't see why Sony and Microsoft would ever embrace getting rid of themselves as that middle man. Microsoft is talking streaming but it's still with an XBox which will likely still do a lot on the local machine. They have been talking unloading the most computationally expensive calculations (eg for physics effects) to central servers ever since they launched the XBox One, and that's what I'm expecting out of their cheaper hybrid online/local machines they're talking about for next gen.

Good points, but I think Sony might be able to get away with it since their in house exclusives are their system sellers. I'm okay with anything halting the streaming tidal wave. People are mesmerized by the convenience of it, but it ironically leads to restrictive choice not more, especially since streaming services can take off content anytime they feel like it. Shit, my local mom and pop video store had a better selection of titles than Netflix. Netflix's library seems to be divided between their original content (their movies are all terrible in general), some big budget current titles, and a few modern classics mixed in with a metric fuckton of garbage (e.g. one Hitchcock title in their entire library) and their Foreign selection is a joke (No Kurosawa, Bergman, Fellini, Godard, Truffaut, etc, etc. An okay selection of martial arts flicks, at least). Streaming is good for television shows, though.

[ElNono]

Cost of making AAA games shift all the time, tbh...

Art always used to be made at much higher res than what eventually shipped, but nowadays, between 4K and HDR, you really need high quality art, and what ships might only pass through something like Simplygon and that's about it. Plus there's many more layers (bump mapping, reflections, displacement, dynamic lights, particle fx, animation, blending, etc). While there's a lot of offshore companies doing art, the sheer volume normally means you're gonna be spending a good chunk on this. Plus, this is an area where there's relatively hefty costs in additional software licensing like Maya, Simplygon, Substance, etc.

With Unreal becoming relatively available at a decent licensing price, it reduced a lot the engineering cost. You still need engineers around, because Unreal can be buggy as hell, and there's always something you want to do outside of the cookie cut, but it definitely lowered the barrier a lot. Now designers can do Blueprints in Unreal and handle a lot of what used to be the engineering black box. If you do custom engines, the cost on this can spike up (because you also need to do tooling, etc), but on the other hand, you get somewhat more control on the feature set. Costs associated with this also include QA, and possibly things like Jira or Perforce.

Audio can vary also, depending on the product. Can go from simple fx, to licensing music, to composing original music to recording with an Orchestra somewhere in the world. Software licensing costs here can also come from sound engines like WWise, etc.

Then there's marketing. If you're a household name, you might need less of a marketing push, but if you need to come up from the shadows, it normally takes more resources. There's cross campaigns, tie-ins with other products... a lot of stuff going on in this area, it's difficult to ascertain what the final cost ends up being, but almost nobody skimps on this.

This is why we see more rehashes sometimes, targeting audiences that know what to expect, than original IPs. Original IPs are valuable, but there's a lot of risks associated with them. A lot of those costs can easily spiral out of control, and the first impression is largely always the lasting one. On the other hand, you can easily ruin a franchise with a terrible product (hello Fallout), so the rehashes carry their own risks too.

[apalisoc_9]

I gotta say I'm not nearly as into the combat in God of War as everyone else. Too many times I'll have five or six enemies attack at once, at which point only ranged attacks seem to make much sense. Then it's just dodge roll and spam square repeatedly as well as axe throw if the arrow behind me isn't red. The game started out pretty hard on the give me a challenge mode but has gotten super easy with only a few upgrades to Atreus. I'm finding the combat much less interesting than Nioh much less Bloodborne and give me a challenge doesn't feel any different from casual other than making the enemies hit harder. Game is beautiful graphically and the story is pretty cool too but Atreus makes the game too easy IMO. Though maybe that's the point of the game? That Atreus is the real badass? I did love the part when you walk into the light for what seems like a minute or two and Atreus drags you out saying you have been in there forever and then you see the corpses of all these enemies he slayed while you were gone.

Son..i dont know. I thought its a much more diverse combat than Bloodborne.

[spurraider21]

I gotta say I'm not nearly as into the combat in God of War as everyone else. Too many times I'll have five or six enemies attack at once, at which point only ranged attacks seem to make much sense. Then it's just dodge roll and spam square repeatedly as well as axe throw if the arrow behind me isn't red. The game started out pretty hard on the give me a challenge mode but has gotten super easy with only a few upgrades to Atreus. I'm finding the combat much less interesting than Nioh much less Bloodborne and give me a challenge doesn't feel any different from casual other than making the enemies hit harder. Game is beautiful graphically and the story is pretty cool too but Atreus makes the game too easy IMO. Though maybe that's the point of the game? That Atreus is the real badass? I did love the part when you walk into the light for what seems like a minute or two and Atreus drags you out saying you have been in there forever and then you see the corpses of all these enemies he slayed while you were gone.
wouldn't surprise me if there are games with more intricate combat. i agree that there are some sections where i only felt i could get by if i cheese with throws and atreus... but that was typically when i encountered a realm tear that i realistically wasn't ready for. a lot of these are meant to be dealt with later in the game. when you are out-leveled by 2 or more, or something like that, that's when the enemy health bar appears purple, and almost all of their attacks are of the unblockable variety that also ohko you... and while you can cheese those at earlier levels (i did), its probably not how it was "meant" to be approached.

there was one battle where i was very under leveled but had a LOT of fun conquering. after the water level lowers the second time, there is one of those heavily armored Traveler guys on top of one of the towers... and my god he was a fucking bitch :lol... he has absurd amounts of health, each of his attacks ohko me, and he never seems to get distracted or stop attacking. i also found it impossible to stun or stagger him, even with runics or atreus. i mean its endless attacks and you have to know which way to dodge for each attack, and slowly chip away at his health. dodge, light attack light attack, dodge, light attack light attack, etc... eventually if your axe builds up enough "permafrost" to actually do some legit damage on the guy. took me quite a few attempts but that one actually felt like a good challenge, as opposed to some of the realm tears that unleash 2-3 enemies that all severely outlevel you. i also only learned during this battle that you can dodge without rolling, by just tapping x once. you can then chain that into a quick dodge-roll by tapping again. you can even dodge in one direction and roll in another.

but to make those realm tears available at early points in the game is kinda poor design, agreeably. i'm pretty neurotic about side content and always try to complete available side stuff before progressing through the story, so i can't just decide "hm that fight is too hard i'm going to come back later." i gotta do it then and there. though there was legit one exception where the realm tear released 3 of the ice fuckers and my axe literally did jack shit and just dodging with arrow spam wasn't effective because i would inevitably get hit by a frost blast and then they'd come in for the kill. that one i did come back to after a certain story point

i'm still not done with the campaign yet, and i definitely intend to NG+ on God of War difficulty... but i still think this is my favorite game. it has a pretty cool story, but not a GOAT story. has very good combat, maybe not GOAT combat. i think the game atmosphere is completely top notch. the semi-open world, yet still fairly linear progression is done expertly. you're not overwhelmed with map icons like rockstar games. the visuals are as good as anything i've seen. character progression feels right (though i know i'm doing it wrong, since im still refusing to dump hacksilver into upgrading armor pieces knowing there's always a better piece around the corner, so im always wearing base level shit). the game just does everything very well, and as a complete package... i cant think of a game that outdoes it

[spurraider21]

Son..i dont know. I thought its a much more diverse combat than Bloodborne.
the battle feels monotonous when you're grinding against enemies that are leveled much higher than you, as you can just about never stagger them with anything besides runics. and players who explore side content eagerly are going to run into that

[baseline bum]

the battle feels monotonous when you're grinding against enemies that are leveled much higher than you, as you can just about never stagger them with anything besides runics. and players who explore side content eagerly are going to run into that

It's not even that IMO. That kind of stuff is to be expected in a game with as much freedom as God of War gives you, and is much better than say in GTA San Andreas where you get waves of cops that will kill you in a minute or two if you cross the wrong bridge too early. The problem I had is having 5-6 guys attack me at once so that I'm forced into bland ranged combat and evasion. Hopefully it's just Alfheim where that happens, but I found it kind of boring and I haven't touched the game in a couple of days since beating the boss. I probably shouldn't try to compare any game to Bloodborne since it's my favorite game released in the past 30 years, but it doesn't get its difficulty from throwing a ton of enemies you have to fight at once, which makes the complete nerfing of ranged combat in it fair. But when I have that many enemies attacking at once with no way to play stealth and pick them off one at a time I feel forced into spamming square and letting Atreus thin the hordes out. Kind of a shame since I do really like the parry system and the runics.

[ElNono]

It's not even that IMO. That kind of stuff is to be expected in a game with as much freedom as God of War gives you, and is much better than say in GTA San Andreas where you get waves of cops that will kill you in a minute or two if you cross the wrong bridge too early. The problem I had is having 5-6 guys attack me at once so that I'm forced into bland ranged combat and evasion. Hopefully it's just Alfheim where that happens, but I found it kind of boring and I haven't touched the game in a couple of days since beating the boss. I probably shouldn't try to compare any game to Bloodborne since it's my favorite game released in the past 30 years, but it doesn't get its difficulty from throwing a ton of enemies you have to fight at once, which makes the complete nerfing of ranged combat in it fair. But when I have that many enemies attacking at once with no way to play stealth and pick them off one at a time I feel forced into spamming square and letting Atreus thin the hordes out. Kind of a shame since I do really like the parry system and the runics.

Game has variety, tbh... the valkyries are the toughest enemies in the game, and they're just mostly a single opponent...

And yes, like most of you guys I did do some grinding, beat some enemies with higher levels, sometimes cheesing it a bit here or there... there's a lot of fighting to do in that game, and places like Niflheim amplify that even more.

[Xevious]

I've not played Bloodborne, but as far as other recent games, Horizon Zero Dawn had much better combat mechanics and more varied enemies/fights IMO. Plus the story was actually good.

[spurraider21]

Game has variety, tbh... the valkyries are the toughest enemies in the game, and they're just mostly a single opponent...

And yes, like most of you guys I did do some grinding, beat some enemies with higher levels, sometimes cheesing it a bit here or there... there's a lot of fighting to do in that game, and places like Niflheim amplify that even more.
ive taken out 4 valkyries thus far... haven't traveled to muspelheim or niflheim yet. the vaklyrie battles are pretty intriguing tbh. still have some story to go, but the valks have been a nice change of pace.

[baseline bum]

Wow that EA pos Anthem is supposedly bricking peoples' PS4s. Stay the fuck away from that garbage.

[vander]

damn, was gonna upgrade my PC for the new Metro game, but then I watched Zero Punctuation's review. I've had my fill of sandbox open world crafting games, I just want a linear story driven beautiful game. but I guess those don't exist anymore.

[baseline bum]

damn, was gonna upgrade my PC for the new Metro game, but then I watched Zero Punctuation's review. I've had my fill of sandbox open world crafting games, I just want a linear story driven beautiful game. but I guess those don't exist anymore.

Yeah Metro as an open world game doesn't sound right. Not after all the corridor shooting in the first two games.

[apalisoc_9]

ive taken out 4 valkyries thus far... haven't traveled to muspelheim or niflheim yet. the vaklyrie battles are pretty intriguing tbh. still have some story to go, but the valks have been a nice change of pace.

Musphellheim..hnnnng. one of the GOATs

[spurraider21]

Musphellheim..hnnnng. one of the GOATs
did you ever go back and complete god of war difficulty?

[apalisoc_9]

did you ever go back and complete god of war difficulty?

No. I thoght give me a challenge was enough. But theres a few added mechanics in that diffulcty.

[spurraider21]

No. I thoght give me a challenge was enough. But theres a few added mechanics in that diffulcty.
my plan is to play NG+ on god of war. ive basically been using shit armor the whole game (did get one piece of valkyrie gear just recently though) because i didnt want to waste materials upgrading lower tier stuff. it will be nice to actually have a playthrough using high quality gear for once. i dont think i plan on getting platinum because i have no desire to sit there and hunt for odin's ravens. i usually like being a completionist as long as its somehow relevant to the game. but sitting there finding these tiny ravens, or wasting 20 minutes flinging an axe from 200 yards away hoping to get lucky doesnt feel connected to the game at all. if there was a simple way to track them on the map i'd consider it... but i havent exactly tracked which ones i did or didnt do.

if i'm a glutton for punishment and decide to come back to this game some time later, i'll probably just try regular god of war for the challenge

[apalisoc_9]

my plan is to play NG+ on god of war. ive basically been using shit armor the whole game (did get one piece of valkyrie gear just recently though) because i didnt want to waste materials upgrading lower tier stuff. it will be nice to actually have a playthrough using high quality gear for once. i dont think i plan on getting platinum because i have no desire to sit there and hunt for odin's ravens. i usually like being a completionist as long as its somehow relevant to the game. but sitting there finding these tiny ravens, or wasting 20 minutes flinging an axe from 200 yards away hoping to get lucky doesnt feel connected to the game at all. if there was a simple way to track them on the map i'd consider it... but i havent exactly tracked which ones i did or didnt do.

if i'm a glutton for punishment and decide to come back to this game some time later, i'll probably just try regular god of war for the challenge

I was trying to go for platinum too. But those ravens were absurd.

Thats probably my only complaint. I think i needed 9 more and I said it fuck it.

HZD platinum is the best for ps4 exclusives

[spurraider21]

I was trying to go for platinum too. But those ravens were absurd.

Thats probably my only complaint. I think i needed 9 more and I said it fuck it.

HZD platinum is the best for ps4 exclusives
i got plat on spiderman, that one felt too easy imo :lol. the only real difficult thing was the "secret photo ops" but around the end of the game you end up unlocking a suit mod that reveals them on ur minimap as you come across them. horizon is definitely my next big ticket game on my backlog... but will probably fit in uncharted 2 and arkham city before getting to that

[baseline bum]

Alfheim was kind of a boring level but now the combat is getting a lot more fun doing the side mission for the whetstone in GOW.

[Leetonidas]

Lol I'm playing anthem. It's like an even crappier version of Destiny. But hey at least you can fly :lol

[baseline bum]

Lol I'm playing anthem. It's like an even crappier version of Destiny. But hey at least you can fly :lol

How can you spend good money on such crap bro?

[Leetonidas]

How can you spend good money on such crap bro?

I red box'd tbh :lol wanted to see if it was as bad as everyone says

[baseline bum]

I red box'd tbh :lol wanted to see if it was as bad as everyone says

Dude that game has been causing hard crashes and database rebuilds all over the place on PS4 and has been reportedly bricking some PS4 also. Don't know if it's doing the same on XB1, but I wouldn't touch the pos.

[Xevious]

Dude that game has been causing hard crashes and database rebuilds all over the place on PS4 and has been reportedly bricking some PS4 also. Don't know if it's doing the same on XB1, but I wouldn't touch the pos.
It has supposedly happened on both consoles.

Fuck man, Bioware has become complete shit. Their games used to be must-plays.

[baseline bum]

It has supposedly happened on both consoles.

Fuck man, Bioware has become complete shit. Their games used to be must-plays.

Sad seeing them and Bethesda both become garbage.

[spurraider21]

Alfheim was kind of a boring level but now the combat is getting a lot more fun doing the side mission for the whetstone in GOW.
The combat in the game improves

a) as you level up, at least to the point where you don’t keep running into swarms of grunts with one shot unblockables on a regular basis

b) as you continue to unlock gear, runics, abilities, etc. Don’t want to get into spoiler territory but imo it keeps getting better

[Joseph Kony]

Dude that game has been causing hard crashes and database rebuilds all over the place on PS4 and has been reportedly bricking some PS4 also. Don't know if it's doing the same on XB1, but I wouldn't touch the pos.
yep, hence why i red box'd it because didnt want to buy it and sony is having issues with it, redboxing it for a couple days on xbone to see if its as bad as they say seemed like a better option. tbh ive only played like 2-3 hours but its not that horrible, but the graphics/framerate on console are atrocious

[Cry Havoc]

Apex Legends is fucking amazing. About to hit level 50, averaging about a win per 5 matches.

[apalisoc_9]

Apex Legends is fucking amazing. About to hit level 50, averaging about a win per 5 matches.

Yo whats your psn

[apalisoc_9]

I am level 45. Good for 3-4 kills a game.

[baseline bum]

Just picked up a new sealed copy of Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne for PS2. Weird in 2019 to open up a manual and see a registration card asking me what systems I own with checkboxes only for PS1, PS2, Dreamcast, XBox, Nintendo 64, Gamecube, and Game Boy Advance. :lol

Also lol at this video I saw today. Get in here NASpurs, didn't you play old Persona games? :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nGWEb5QxGA

[NASpurs]

Just picked up a new sealed copy of Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne for PS2. Weird in 2019 to open up a manual and see a registration card asking me what systems I own with checkboxes only for PS1, PS2, Dreamcast, XBox, Nintendo 64, Gamecube, and Game Boy Advance. :lol

Also lol at this video I saw today. Get in here NASpurs (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=386), didn't you play old Persona games? :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nGWEb5QxGA

:lmao

I feel like I'm being made fun of for playing those old games. It's not my fault that my main mission in the game is to fuck every girl. You give me the option, Ill take it.

And that's the motherfucking Nigerian prince whose emails go to my spam folder saying that if I send him money, I'll become a millionaire.

[baseline bum]

:lmao

I feel like I'm being made fun of for playing those old games. It's not my fault that my main mission in the game is to fuck every girl. You give me the option, Ill take it.

And that's the motherfucking Nigerian prince whose emails go to my spam folder saying that if I send him money, I'll become a millionaire.

Come on man, you know I'm a huge Persona fan. I was just dying over that video, which is basically every SMT vs Persona argument ever. :lol

I still think they should let you bang Sojiro in 5 though.

[NASpurs]

Come on man, you know I'm a huge Persona fan. I was just dying over that video, which is basically every SMT vs Persona argument ever. :lol

:lol I'm actually not in that scene so I don't know much about the SMT vs Persona arguments. I always imagined there were two sides for liking one game over the other... kind of like Demon's Souls, Dark Souls and Bloodborne people.

[baseline bum]

:lol I'm actually not in that scene so I don't know much about the SMT vs Persona arguments. I always imagined there were two sides for liking one game over the other... kind of like Demon's Souls, Dark Souls and Bloodborne people.

SMT is like if you took all the social stuff out of Persona and only left the dungeon crawling, but made it way harder and changed the battle system to thoroughly punish missed, blocked, or reflected attacks. Also all the mainline SMT games take place in some dystopian version of Tokyo. Nocturne is funny as the world ends at the beginning of the game and you only survive because you were made into half man, half demon. Then you're supposed to build a new world but instead I killed god and let the world get overtaken by demons. Here's a quick preview of it (I couldn't find any reviews that weren't 20+ minutes :lol)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhqo6yTOg4U

[NASpurs]

SMT is like if you took all the social stuff out of Persona and only left the dungeon crawling, but made it way harder and changed the battle system to thoroughly punish missed, blocked, or reflected attacks. Also all the mainline SMT games take place in some dystopian version of Tokyo. Nocturne is funny as the world ends at the beginning of the game and you only survive because you were made into half man, half demon. Then you're supposed to build a new world but instead I killed god and let the world get overtaken by demons. Here's a quick preview of it (I couldn't find any reviews that weren't 20+ minutes :lol)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhqo6yTOg4U

Oh yeah, I definitely played SMT: Nocturne back in the day. I didn't play much of it (maybe like four hrs?) because at the time, I kept getting my ass handed to me in the dungeon crawling part. I remember getting overwhelmed with the fusion system and it just turned me off. It sounds stupid to say that nowadays when I played so much of Persona but back then that system just went over my head.

But yeah, I'll always be team Persona. :lol I love the dungeon crawling but the story is top notch and I'm normally someone who just skips through stories of most games so to me, that says something about the superb story hooks that these games have.

[baseline bum]

Oh yeah, I definitely played SMT: Nocturne back in the day. I didn't play much of it (maybe like four hrs?) because at the time, I kept getting my ass handed to me in the dungeon crawling part. I remember getting overwhelmed with the fusion system and it just turned me off. It sounds stupid to say that nowadays when I played so much of Persona but back then that system just went over my head.

But yeah, I'll always be team Persona. :lol I love the dungeon crawling but the story is top notch and I'm normally someone who just skips through stories of most games so to me, that says something about the superb story hooks that these games have.

So you got stuck on Matador? That's where everyone says fuck this game. :lol

[NASpurs]

So you got stuck on Matador? That's where everyone says fuck this game. :lol

:lol seems familiar but you're asking me about a game that I played like 10+ years ago.

And the only reason I got into Persona 4 is because of the Giant Bomb dudes doing an Endurance Run back in '09. That shit is so good. :lol

[DJR210]

Sad seeing them and Bethesda both become garbage.

Sad to see Bethesda making games in 2023 using the Oblivion engine..

[baseline bum]

Speaking of Nocturne, I enjoyed your unboxing video for it ElNono :tu


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEW-xOEJsG0

[leemajors]

Yo whats your psn

CH is master race

[ElNono]

Speaking of Nocturne, I enjoyed your unboxing video for it ElNono :tu


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEW-xOEJsG0

Thank you my nigga, I still had hair back then :cry

[baseline bum]

Damn DMC5 looks like it might be worth getting.

[Xevious]

Sad to see Bethesda making games in 2023 using the Oblivion engine..
I think Morrowind was actually their first game with that engine.

[Joseph Kony]

Damn DMC5 looks like it might be worth getting.

Super hyped for it, tempted to pre-order it for PC but i think i'll wait to make sure it doesnt have a bunch of annoying bugs at launch

[baseline bum]

Had to fire up my old savefile for Nocturne again and doom the earth by killing god and then killing lucifer after. I forgot this ending to Nocturne is recreated with Nintendo characters in the Super Smash Bros Ultimate Intro, with Mario playing the part of the demifiend. :lol

Which I guess makes sense since SMT has been a Nintedo exclusive series for ten years now.

[baseline bum]

Hey midnightpulp, I don't know if I have mentioned this to you, but since you sound like an enthusiast from that era you should check out the PSIO for playing PS1 roms off an SD card on the first model of PS1.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD8___jsiqs

[midnightpulp]

Hey midnightpulp, I don't know if I have mentioned this to you, but since you sound like an enthusiast from that era you should check out the PSIO for playing PS1 roms off an SD card on the first model of PS1.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD8___jsiqs

I believe you did. Probably will invest in one sooner or later, just to keep disc wear at a minimum. My usual go-to for PS1 playing is emulation on the PC (I rip my original CDs into ISOs) through ePSXe, which offers upscaled resolution and AA, making those games seem like HD remakes. But not all games run flawlessly, so this will be good to have.

[Xevious]

Jesus Christ, Sigrun on GoW is fucking hard. I'm all the way up to the point of no return as far as the end game is concerned, I have Kratos up to level 9 with a fully upgraded set of Nilfheim armor/epic enchantments/etc, and I'm barely able to get her close of half health before she kills me twice. Here I was thinking the Valkyries had gotten awfully easy with my current set up. :lol I'm wondering if it's even worth it to continue trying this, or if I should just beat the game then return afterwards at an easier difficulty. I have nothing else to do other than hunt ravens and shit.

[baseline bum]

LMAO at the discless XBox One being named the XBox One S All Digital Edition.

:lol XBox One SAD Edition

[apalisoc_9]

Jesus Christ, Sigrun on GoW is fucking hard. I'm all the way up to the point of no return as far as the end game is concerned, I have Kratos up to level 9 with a fully upgraded set of Nilfheim armor/epic enchantments/etc, and I'm barely able to get her close of half health before she kills me twice. Here I was thinking the Valkyries had gotten awfully easy with my current set up. :lol I'm wondering if it's even worth it to continue trying this, or if I should just beat the game then return afterwards at an easier difficulty. I have nothing else to do other than hunt ravens and shit.

No. Its worth beating her at the highest difficulty. In reality sigrun, is just a combination of all the valkyries move set so its just a matter of memorizing her patterns.

Tip: if shes in air and is about to make her move, just use atreus. I noticed most people struggled with in air.

[DJR210]

baseline bum I finally understand your comparison of Yakuza to Streets of Rage.. It really is a super high resolution jap version of it w/ some Shenmue thrown in for good measure..

[baseline bum]

baseline bum I finally understand your comparison of Yakuza to Streets of Rage.. It really is a super high resolution jap version of it w/ some Shenmue thrown in for good measure..

Just constantly beating the shit outta niggas. LOL I think I found out why Yakuza Kiwami runs better than Yakuza 0: because Sega never put Denuvo in Kiwami. Though maybe pirated 0 will run just as well without the Denuvo. Also Sega removed Denuvo from the paid version of Yakuza 0 a month or so ago.

Speaking of piracy, Capcom accidentally released a copy of Devil May Cry 5 a couple of days ago without Denuvo. :lol

[redzero]

I'm downloading DMC5 for the PC now. The PS4 version is allegedly censored in the US in some parts (why?).

[Joseph Kony]

fucking DMC5 was crashing as soon as i launched it, frustrating as fuck. figured out for whatever reason had to change the config from directx12 to 11 and voiala. Game is pretty awesome so far, it is definitely a fan service to the original series. i like that they are using the RE engine for this, it looks and plays real nice.

[Joseph Kony]

I'm downloading DMC5 for the PC now. The PS4 version is allegedly censored in the US in some parts (why?).

something about Trish's tits or something i think :lol

[baseline bum]

something about Trish's tits or something i think :lol

Screenshot?

[redzero]

https://twinfinite.net/2019/03/devil-may-cry-5-censored-ps4/

[baseline bum]

Oh fuck Sekiro looks incredible. This might have to be a $60 Day 1 buy for me unless I'm still playing God of War on the 22nd.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQItIcu9vvA

[baseline bum]

PC System requirements are pretty light too:

MINIMUM:
OS: Windows 7 64-bit | Windows 8 64-bit | Windows 10 64-bit
Processor: Intel Core i3-2100 | AMD FX-6300
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 | AMD Radeon HD 7950
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 25 GB available space
Sound Card: DirectX 11 Compatible


RECOMMENDED:
OS: Windows 7 64-bit | Windows 8 64-bit | Windows 10 64-bit
Processor: Intel Core i5-2500K | AMD Ryzen 5 1400
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 | AMD Radeon RX 570
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 25 GB available space
Sound Card: DirectX 11 Compatible

Considering I'm running a 970, an E3-1231v3, and 16GB of overclocked DDR3-2400 looks like I hit that recommended setting pretty easily.

[baseline bum]

Between Resident Evil 2, Devil May Cry 5, Sekiro Shadows Die Twice, and Dying Light 2 this looks to easily be the best year in PC gaming since 2015 when we had Dying Light, The Witcher 3, Fallout 4, and the GTA V remaster.

[baseline bum]

I believe you did. Probably will invest in one sooner or later, just to keep disc wear at a minimum. My usual go-to for PS1 playing is emulation on the PC (I rip my original CDs into ISOs) through ePSXe, which offers upscaled resolution and AA, making those games seem like HD remakes. But not all games run flawlessly, so this will be good to have.

I'm kind of surprised you're into the upscaling though PS1 3D games do look awful in 2019. I prefer the 2D stuff on both PS1 and PSP at native res though. Except for Ghost N Goblins on PSP, for some reason that one really looks great at 1080p.

What are your thoughts on Saturn emulation? NiGHTS Into Dreams looks pretty good on Mednafen with a heavy scanline filter.

[spurraider21]

Jesus Christ, Sigrun on GoW is fucking hard. I'm all the way up to the point of no return as far as the end game is concerned, I have Kratos up to level 9 with a fully upgraded set of Nilfheim armor/epic enchantments/etc, and I'm barely able to get her close of half health before she kills me twice. Here I was thinking the Valkyries had gotten awfully easy with my current set up. :lol I'm wondering if it's even worth it to continue trying this, or if I should just beat the game then return afterwards at an easier difficulty. I have nothing else to do other than hunt ravens and shit.


No. Its worth beating her at the highest difficulty. In reality sigrun, is just a combination of all the valkyries move set so its just a matter of memorizing her patterns.

Tip: if shes in air and is about to make her move, just use atreus. I noticed most people struggled with in air.
i completed the game and beat sigrun on give me a challenge. sigrun was very tough, but all the other vaklyrie fights to a really good job of preparing you. i had the most trouble with one on alfheim iirc, as she had the very fast fly-stomp attack, while the other ones would shout VALHALLA or something :lol... that and the muspelheim one because hers had a really weird timing/delay on the stomp, so that if you just mashed roll when she yelled valhalla you'd get hit.

the main difficulty with sigrun was identifying which aerial attack she was doing and then responding on time. if shes spinning the staff around, you gotta spam arrows or throw the axe at her, otherwise you get hit. if shes doing the blinding one, you have to look the ground or do quick turnaround (down on dpad), etc. obviously always be on the lookout for valhalla stomp.

do all the dwarf favors and you can get their special armors. Sindri's breastplate thing imo is better than the valk/mist sets because it gives you massive runic/cooldown boosts and its ability can give you invulnerability during runic animations. i used valkyrie waist guard also for runic boost and perk, and then mist gauntlet just for stats and some slight passive regen. i maxed all those out. and even though its not a very high level, i'm using the amulet that slows time after a perfect dodge. really helped against sigrun because almost every valhalla dodge is perfect as your window is so narrow anyway :lol

i started NG+ on give me god of war. the combat really is more challenging, and despite having runics and armor its still a grind on early levels :lol... though familiarity with the game helps a lot. after learning the right approaches the first time, i'm having a much easier time against bosses this time, but strugglin way more against the random draugers

[apalisoc_9]

i completed the game and beat sigrun on give me a challenge. sigrun was very tough, but all the other vaklyrie fights to a really good job of preparing you. i had the most trouble with one on alfheim iirc, as she had the very fast fly-stomp attack, while the other ones would shout VALHALLA or something :lol... that and the muspelheim one because hers had a really weird timing/delay on the stomp, so that if you just mashed roll when she yelled valhalla you'd get hit.

the main difficulty with sigrun was identifying which aerial attack she was doing and then responding on time. if shes spinning the staff around, you gotta spam arrows or throw the axe at her, otherwise you get hit. if shes doing the blinding one, you have to look the ground or do quick turnaround (down on dpad), etc. obviously always be on the lookout for valhalla stomp.

do all the dwarf favors and you can get their special armors. Sindri's breastplate thing imo is better than the valk/mist sets because it gives you massive runic/cooldown boosts and its ability can give you invulnerability during runic animations. i used valkyrie waist guard also for runic boost and perk, and then mist gauntlet just for stats and some slight passive regen. i maxed all those out. and even though its not a very high level, i'm using the amulet that slows time after a perfect dodge. really helped against sigrun because almost every valhalla dodge is perfect as your window is so narrow anyway :lol

i started NG+ on give me god of war. the combat really is more challenging, and despite having runics and armor its still a grind on early levels :lol... though familiarity with the game helps a lot. after learning the right approaches the first time, i'm having a much easier time against bosses this time, but strugglin way more against the random draugers

Did you plat?

[spurraider21]

Did you plat?
no. saw one of the requirements is to find 51 ravens. fuck that

[Cry Havoc]

Yo whats your psn

PC, I don't play console fps -- plus even if I did I'd suck with a joystick xD

[baseline bum]

CROFL Denuvo getting DP'ed by CPY and CODEX

https://i.ibb.co/0nZB4Ks/lol-denuvo.png

Get in here DJR210 and ElNono :lol

[apalisoc_9]

PC, I don't play console fps -- plus even if I did I'd suck with a joystick xD

PC is def the way to go with apex. I imagine once Cross platform starts..PC users will demolish console players.

Its just much easier to aim and shot in PC. Thats a crazy advantage.

[apalisoc_9]

no. saw one of the requirements is to find 51 ravens. fuck that

Have you played HZD btw.

Id skip the NG+ and experience other great exclusives.

While I will continue to say GOW is the best overall.

HZD has GOW beat in lore.

Its crazy because HZD has some clear flaws. But i honestly enjoyed it more than i did with GOW and i consider GOW the top ps4 exlusive.

[apalisoc_9]

I wanna replay HZD so bad.

In terms of PS exlusives from p3-ps4.

Its probably objectively overall the 4th best.

But I found the open world and lore the most enjoyable.

I think the only game or experience I would say is better is Last of us.

Maybe yakuza 0..but yakuza 0 is super flawed.

[ElNono]

CROFL Denuvo getting DP'ed by CPY and CODEX

Get in here DJR210 and ElNono :lol

:lol to be fair, they were fairly successful for a while, considering they were playing a losing game all along... IIRC, they used to be StarForce, and I'm sure they'll probably reincarnate as something else in the future.

[spurraider21]

Have you played HZD btw.

Id skip the NG+ and experience other great exclusives.

While I will continue to say GOW is the best overall.

HZD has GOW beat in lore.

Its crazy because HZD has some clear flaws. But i honestly enjoyed it more than i did with GOW and i consider GOW the top ps4 exlusive.
yeah, about that ... :lol

i fired up NG+ with the intent of only playing for a bit so i can get a sense of the difficulty scale. ad now i've been sucked into it. luckily after having already played through once, i dont think it's going to take as long this time around.

horizon is definitely my next big ticket item... i plan on playing some short games in between tho, like arkham city and uncharted 2. i feel like if i play GOW and Horizon back to back, i'm going to judge them unfairly tbh

[baseline bum]

yeah, about that ... :lol

i fired up NG+ with the intent of only playing for a bit so i can get a sense of the difficulty scale. ad now i've been sucked into it. luckily after having already played through once, i dont think it's going to take as long this time around.

horizon is definitely my next big ticket item... i plan on playing some short games in between tho, like arkham city and uncharted 2. i feel like if i play GOW and Horizon back to back, i'm going to judge them unfairly tbh

LOL that's how I was with Persona 4 Golden. Horizon is definitely a big game so I can understand not wanting to jump into it immediately. I think I still prefer super casual stuff in between big games.

[Joseph Kony]

embarrassed to say im actually enjoying Anthem tbh :lol i havent really experienced any issues with it other than shit load times because ive been playing on console. i can see why some people wouldn't like it or may be let down by their expectations but its honestly pretty much what i thought it would be, definitely better than Fallout 76 tbh

[redzero]

I played Devil May Cry for the first time, and boy are these fixed camera angles rough. I know the game is old and all, but damn, it just makes me want to play Bayonetta instead.

[spurraider21]

LOL that's how I was with Persona 4 Golden. Horizon is definitely a big game so I can understand not wanting to jump into it immediately. I think I still prefer super casual stuff in between big games.
NG+ on give me god of war isn't that hard. i'm having a much easier time than my first playthrough on challenge. i find that fights against random draugers are killing me more than boss encounters. but not only are you pretty OP to start the game if you collected good equipment on your first playthrough, but you unlock some absurdly good features in NG+... for instance if you upgrade your talismans, they can actually hold 3 enchantments, which is nuts. of course not to mention, there are 2 talismans that you can convert INTO enchantments. most notably, the amulet of kvalsir or whatever its called (its the one where time slows down after a perfect dodge). so rather than using that as a passive talisman, its just one of 12 enchantments i can equip

at some point in the future ima come back and play regular NG give me god of war... now i can expect that to be a pain when im understatted and lacking abilities. but i'll only do that when im coming back to the game after getting through my library

[apalisoc_9]

I love GOW but playing a game for the third time...

Ewww.

[spurraider21]

I love GOW but playing a game for the third time...

Ewww.
NG+ feels somewhat like a new game... and after knowing the full story and all the reveals, its actually really intriguing playing a second time because you pick up on the clues so much more. so many things take on new meaning, especially all the stuff The Stranger says in your first encounter

yeah, i'd never do the 3rd playthrough b2b2b like that. but a year down the line? why not imho

i cant count how many times i played through Star Fox 64 or Super Mario 64 as a kid... or how many times i had beaten Spiderman 2 on the ps2. some games just have great replayability. god of war feels like one of them since the game's big but not too big (for instance, i cant even imagine playing RDR2 a second time)

[Chris]

I've played through Outlast and Outlast 2 more than 3 times. There are certain games that have that junkie fix replayability. I can't count how many times I've beaten the individual MGS games especially Sons of Liberty. Probably close to 10 times...

[Joseph Kony]

yeah i dont see the big deal, a game is like a really long movie and people rewatch shit all the time. though i try to space out playthroughs for certain games like once a year or every other year depending on length. i've probably beaten the dying light campaign and all side quests at least 5 times, though i still havent finished the following :lol . i've beaten LoU at least 6 different times (normal, hard, survivor, grounded x3), beaten WatchDogs 3 times, etc. only game that i really really love that i havent beaten multiple times is Witcher 3 and thats because its a massive game and undertaking

[Joseph Kony]

I played Devil May Cry for the first time, and boy are these fixed camera angles rough. I know the game is old and all, but damn, it just makes me want to play Bayonetta instead.

did you grow up playing bayonetta before DMC? i tried to play Bayonetta recently and it just feels like a shitty DMC clone, but i grew up playing DMC so probably why i feel that way

[baseline bum]

i've probably beaten the dying light campaign and all side quests at least 5 times

My nigga, that game is fucking crack. I think I have four playthroughs.



though i still havent finished the following :lol


The fuck? The ending to the base game is such shit while The Following has a brilliant ending that ties everything together. You are really missing out if you haven't done The Following.




beaten WatchDogs 3 times


You sir are sick.

[baseline bum]

baseline bum I finally understand your comparison of Yakuza to Streets of Rage.. It really is a super high resolution jap version of it w/ some Shenmue thrown in for good measure..

Damn the newest patch for Yakuza 0 removes Denuvo and supposedly it dropped the size of the executable from 200MB to 20MB. :lol

[redzero]

did you grow up playing bayonetta before DMC? i tried to play Bayonetta recently and it just feels like a shitty DMC clone, but i grew up playing DMC so probably why i feel that way

I didn't "grow up" with either, but I played Bayonetta 1 and 2 first. I wouldn't call Bayonetta a clone, since the guy who directed Devil May Cry was behind Bayonetta, too.

I understand that I am judging an 18-year-old game by today's standards, but the fact that DMC was born from scrapped ideas for Resident Evil 4 shows. When I played Metal Gear Solid recently, it was also a brutal experience. Those fixed camera angles are really shitty by today's standards.

[baseline bum]

I didn't "grow up" with either, but I played Bayonetta 1 and 2 first. I wouldn't call Bayonetta a clone, since the guy who directed Devil May Cry was behind Bayonetta, too.

I understand that I am judging an 18-year-old game by today's standards, but the fact that DMC was born from scrapped ideas for Resident Evil 4 shows. When I played Metal Gear Solid recently, it was also a brutal experience. Those fixed camera angles are really shitty by today's standards.

Yeah PS2 action games can be rough. After how much I loved NieR Automata and Nier Gestalt I went and played Drakengard and it would have been a great Dynasty Warriors kind of game if it wasn't for the horrible camera control.

[redzero]

Yeah PS2 action games can be rough. After how much I loved NieR Automata and Nier Gestalt I went and played Drakengard and it would have been a great Dynasty Warriors kind of game if it wasn't for the horrible camera control.

The crazy thing is that people complained because the Resident Evil 2 Remake didn't have fixed camera angles. Why would anybody want to not be able to see what they are attacking or being attacked by? :lol Nostalgia makes people believe crazy shit.

Final Fantasy VII is one of my favorite games ever, and I couldn't care less that the remake (if it ever come out) won't have Active Time Battle. But people get butthurt about it, as if the combat system HAS to be turn-based. What's the point of a remake if it's the exact same thing all over again?

[Joseph Kony]

My nigga, that game is fucking crack. I think I have four playthroughs.




The fuck? The ending to the base game is such shit while The Following has a brilliant ending that ties everything together. You are really missing out if you haven't done The Following.




You sir are sick.

I know, ive read how the game ends but i'll eventually go back and finish it. and :lol i dont know why watchdogs gets so much hate, just one of those games everyone scoffs but i enjoyed the story. i thought WatchDogs 2 (which ive beaten twice :lol ) has better gameplay buts its story is shit compared to the previous and Marcus is such a lame character compared to Pierce. just imo

[baseline bum]

I know, ive read how the game ends but i'll eventually go back and finish it. and :lol i dont know why watchdogs gets so much hate, just one of those games everyone scoffs but i enjoyed the story. i thought WatchDogs 2 (which ive beaten twice :lol ) has better gameplay buts its story is shit compared to the previous and Marcus is such a lame character compared to Pierce. just imo

I could only take about 15 minutes of Watch Dogs before uninstalling that shit.

[Joseph Kony]

then you're missing out tbh.

on a side note, 343i announced they are releasing the Master Chief Collection and Halo: Reach on PC this year :wow with Halo Infinite coming out on PC as well theres literally no reason to own an xbox anymore :lol

[baseline bum]

then you're missing out tbh.

on a side note, 343i announced they are releasing the Master Chief Collection and Halo: Reach on PC this year :wow with Halo Infinite coming out on PC as well theres literally no reason to own an xbox anymore :lol

Only reason ever to own an XBox One was to play Red Dead Redemption 1 with a half decent framerate.

[Cry Havoc]

PC is def the way to go with apex. I imagine once Cross platform starts..PC users will demolish console players.

Its just much easier to aim and shot in PC. Thats a crazy advantage.

They tried this out before back in the days of the PS3. Slightly above average, non-competitive FPS players on PC completely wiped the floor with some of the best console players in the world. It's really not even about skill when a joystick is so limiting.

[spurraider21]

100% agreed on fixed camera angles. its why i was very surprised to see people complaining about how the new god of war changed the formula too much

[Leetonidas]

Only reason ever to own an XBox One was to play Red Dead Redemption 1 with a half decent framerate.

I still thoroughly enjoy playing Halo 5 multiplayer even if the campaign is trash tbh. But yeah don't really use it for anything else

[baseline bum]

Blech at the rumor that Sony might be close to buying Take Two. That would suck so much if GTA and RDR become PoorStation exclusives.

[spurraider21]

Blech at the rumor that Sony might be close to buying Take Two. That would suck so much if GTA and RDR become PoorStation exclusives.
:lmao poorbox if true

[baseline bum]

:lmao poorbox if true

XBox: We got Ninja Theory!
Playstation: fuk yo Ninja Theory clown, we got Rockstar

[spurraider21]

XBox: We got Ninja Theory!
Playstation: fuk yo Ninja Theory clown, we got Rockstar
tbh they shouldn't bother making a new console if true

[Xevious]

i completed the game and beat sigrun on give me a challenge. sigrun was very tough, but all the other vaklyrie fights to a really good job of preparing you. i had the most trouble with one on alfheim iirc, as she had the very fast fly-stomp attack, while the other ones would shout VALHALLA or something :lol... that and the muspelheim one because hers had a really weird timing/delay on the stomp, so that if you just mashed roll when she yelled valhalla you'd get hit.

the main difficulty with sigrun was identifying which aerial attack she was doing and then responding on time. if shes spinning the staff around, you gotta spam arrows or throw the axe at her, otherwise you get hit. if shes doing the blinding one, you have to look the ground or do quick turnaround (down on dpad), etc. obviously always be on the lookout for valhalla stomp.

do all the dwarf favors and you can get their special armors. Sindri's breastplate thing imo is better than the valk/mist sets because it gives you massive runic/cooldown boosts and its ability can give you invulnerability during runic animations. i used valkyrie waist guard also for runic boost and perk, and then mist gauntlet just for stats and some slight passive regen. i maxed all those out. and even though its not a very high level, i'm using the amulet that slows time after a perfect dodge. really helped against sigrun because almost every valhalla dodge is perfect as your window is so narrow anyway :lol

i started NG+ on give me god of war. the combat really is more challenging, and despite having runics and armor its still a grind on early levels :lol... though familiarity with the game helps a lot. after learning the right approaches the first time, i'm having a much easier time against bosses this time, but strugglin way more against the random draugers
I finally beat that cunt (didn't play for a few days). It was to the point that it wasn't even fun tbh. I have all of her moves memorized, my reflexes just suck I guess. :lol Long gone are the days of me running through Mike Tyson's Punchout without taking a punch.

[Xevious]

Blech at the rumor that Sony might be close to buying Take Two. That would suck so much if GTA and RDR become PoorStation exclusives.
OMG Microsoft might as well just hang it up if true. Rockstar games would fit right in with the lineup of killer single player exclusives on Sony tbh.

[Joseph Kony]

speaking of Rockstar, really wish they would do a new Max Payne game. would jizz my pants for Max Payne 4

[baseline bum]

OMG Microsoft might as well just hang it up if true. Rockstar games would fit right in with the lineup of killer single player exclusives on Sony tbh.

God I'd hate it. GTA V was such an amazing experience on PC playing at 60 fps with a Xeon and a GTX 970. I'd love to see RDR2 at 60 fps too.

[apalisoc_9]

Blech at the rumor that Sony might be close to buying Take Two. That would suck so much if GTA and RDR become PoorStation exclusives.

Xlost :lmao

[spurraider21]

And lol pc snobs

[redzero]

Anybody here play PC games with an XBOX ONE controller? My PS4 controller works fine, and the wrong button icons don't really bother me, but is there something I am missing out on by not using an XBOX controller?

[spurraider21]

sony denied the Take Two rumors. so much for that.

[baseline bum]

sony denied the Take Two rumors. so much for that.

Thank god

[apalisoc_9]

Lol xlost fans would have probably committed suicide.

And if it did happen

"GTA is just like crackdown anyway with hookers and shit"

" GTA and red dead is boring anway".
:lol

[DJR210]

Anybody here play PC games with an XBOX ONE controller? My PS4 controller works fine, and the wrong button icons don't really bother me, but is there something I am missing out on by not using an XBOX controller?

Yeah, I have a couple wired Xbox One Controllers and a wireless Xbox 360 I use.. Steam has PS4 support, you should be able to designate it so that the icons and everything match your input

[diego]

Anybody here play PC games with an XBOX ONE controller? My PS4 controller works fine, and the wrong button icons don't really bother me, but is there something I am missing out on by not using an XBOX controller?

Console controllers are usually more durable than PC/ generics.. as far as icons though you can set any controller up using x360ce, you put the exe in the game folder (have to choose 32/64 bit accordingly) and run it once to setup your controllers (usually it will automatically load the proper config from internet), then exit and run the game.

I have a hodgepodge of Xbox, PlayStation, generics (lots of local multiplayer with my kids) and they all play nicely that way , only drawback is you have to put the exe in each game folder

[DJR210]

Console controllers are usually more durable than PC/ generics.. as far as icons though you can set any controller up using x360ce, you put the exe in the game folder (have to choose 32/64 bit accordingly) and run it once to setup your controllers (usually it will automatically load the proper config from internet), then exit and run the game.

I have a hodgepodge of Xbox, PlayStation, generics (lots of local multiplayer with my kids) and they all play nicely that way , only drawback is you have to put the exe in each game folder

No need to use 3rd party add-ons to get your controllers working.. Steam has native support. Add your non-Steam games to Steam and you're good to go

[Joseph Kony]

i use an xbone controller for the PC, just plug it in and it should work right off the bat tbh

[Cry Havoc]

Anybody here play PC games with an XBOX ONE controller? My PS4 controller works fine, and the wrong button icons don't really bother me, but is there something I am missing out on by not using an XBOX controller?

No, what would you miss out on? Ps4 is supported by Win10.

[apalisoc_9]

Apex is still fire even though I am atrocious.

Never been this addicted to multiplayer :lol

[baseline bum]

Damn I'm getting burnt out on God of War. Been playing PS1/PSP era Persona JRPGs on my Vita instead lately. :lol

The combat is pretty good and the graphics are great but the story is boring me in GOW. It's just not gripping me the way the story of Resident Evil 2 did or the way Persona 1 and Persona 2: Innocent Sin are.

Maybe I'm turning into midnightpulp wanting to play old shit. :lol

[baseline bum]

At least there isn't much story to God of War so I can come back to it later without starting over.

[apalisoc_9]

Damn I'm getting burnt out on God of War. Been playing PS1/PSP era Persona JRPGs on my Vita instead lately. :lol

The combat is pretty good and the graphics are great but the story is boring me in GOW. It's just not gripping me the way the story of Resident Evil 2 did or the way Persona 1 and Persona 2: Innocent Sin are.

Maybe I'm turning into midnightpulp wanting to play old shit. :lol

Playing Weird white people in Japanese schools over GOAT of war.

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/hhh4.png

[baseline bum]

Playing Weird white people in Japanese schools over GOAT of war.

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/hhh4.png

Nigga I'm part Japanese and they're Japanese kids in the game. Only white person in the series is Ann from Persona 5.

[apalisoc_9]

Nigga I'm part Japanese and they're Japanese kids in the game. Only white person in the series is Ann from Persona 5.

Nigga no offense, but japanese people dont have blue eyes and blondes.

80s Japanese cartoons protryaed japanese the way japanese look.

Still...

Persona over GOAT of war

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/hhh4.png

[baseline bum]

Nigga no offense, but japanese people dont have blue eyes and blondes.

80s Japanese cartoons protryaed japanese the way japanese look.

Still...

Persona over GOAT of war

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/hhh4.png

You know there are people who dye their hair blonde right?

[apalisoc_9]

You know there are people who dye their hair blonde right?

Dye your hair blonde and wear blue contacts brehs.

Internal racism?

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/hhh4.png

How you'll even manage these ps1 graphics

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/hhh4.png

[diego]

No need to use 3rd party add-ons to get your controllers working.. Steam has native support. Add your non-Steam games to Steam and you're good to go

I uninstalled steam when I finished the orange box. I hadn't thought of it like this before but till then I mostly bought every game I had, but then steam just pissed me off and I started mostly pirating. Some of that is age/time related, some about not getting good internet also, but a good part of it was I hate intermediaries and background apps.

Just remembered I did put it back to buy and play oddworld strangers wrath when it came out on PC, that's the only kind of circumstance I would use it in, and if I do buy a game now I prefer gog

[baseline bum]

Dye your hair blonde and wear blue contacts brehs.

Internal racism?

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/hhh4.png

How you'll even manage these ps1 graphics

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/hhh4.png

Are you thinking of Aigis from Persona 3? She's a robot.

[resistanze]

DMC 5 was https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/lawd.png

[apalisoc_9]

DMC 5 was https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/lawd.png

For real?
Insaw ths trailers and they introduced a character that looked like a faggy methead so i was like no thanns.

Maybe I should get it but sekiro is around the corner so.

[baseline bum]

For real?
Insaw ths trailers and they introduced a character that looked like a faggy methead so i was like no thanns.

Maybe I should get it but sekiro is around the corner so.

Game has gotta be dope since Dante was in Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne tbh

[Xevious]

Damn I'm getting burnt out on God of War. Been playing PS1/PSP era Persona JRPGs on my Vita instead lately. :lol

The combat is pretty good and the graphics are great but the story is boring me in GOW. It's just not gripping me the way the story of Resident Evil 2 did or the way Persona 1 and Persona 2: Innocent Sin are.

Maybe I'm turning into midnightpulp wanting to play old shit. :lol
Tbh the story on GoW is nothing to write home about. Everything Kratos and Atreus do is just to fulfill the final wish of Atreus' mom. Any storyline that happens on the way is simply lore building that culminates in the final ten minutes of the game. It makes for a cool moment, but it probably isn't a game I'll ever play again.

[Joseph Kony]

DMC5 is pretty fucking dope tbh, every character you can use is fun in their own way and Dante is just so badass to play with in this one. hnnng that "sin" devil trigger mode.