What are you playing right now?

[Reck]

Fuck I have 3 hours until my download is done. No way I'm playing tonight.

:lmao

What kind of cavemen internet do you have? I get 200mb download and I feel that is too slow. I have to get that gigabit deal but it's still too expensive.

This game is fucking amazing. Just got through the first mission and the prologue which took about 2 hours and half and I gotta say, CHEFS KISS. Blown away.

[baseline bum]

:lmao

What kind of cavemen internet do you have? I get 200mb download and I feel that is too slow. I have to get that gigabit deal but it's still too expensive.

This game is fucking amazing. Just got through the first mission and the prologue which took about 2 hours and half and I gotta say, CHEFS KISS. Blown away.

Shitty ass Spectrum.

[vy65]

HFW graphics are … just wow. I didn’t think I’d be as impressed as I am

[Reck]

I fucking love Forbidden West.

This is how you keep a franchise great. Dont change shit.

It controls exactly the same as the first game. I dont know if its because I still have the controls of the first one fresh on my mind having played it not too long ago but I picked the controls off in minutes. Normal seems too easy as well so I bumped up the difficulty to hard and I'm still breezing through. Though I'm early on in the game so that might change.

[baseline bum]

Is it me or is the upscale in performance mode horrendous in Forbidden West on PS5? It looks like when I run the Nvidia Image Scaler upscaler with the sharpening turned way too high. This doesn't even look like 1440p much less 1800p. The palm trees and some of the grass are just straight ugly with this upscaler. And I have already done the shut the game down and restart twice to apply the hotfix for shimmering as Guerilla Games recommended.

[baseline bum]

I should not have bought Forbidden West at launch. This sharpening filter they're using almost looks like putting an ugly and heavy film grain on the game or something, it looks like shit. Doesn't look like I'm playing a PS5 game at all. Almost feels like I'm playing something midway between a 360 game and a PS4 game.

[Reck]

I should not have bought Forbidden West at launch. This sharpening filter they're using almost looks like putting an ugly and heavy film grain on the game or something, it looks like shit. Doesn't look like I'm playing a PS5 game at all. Almost feels like I'm playing something midway between a 360 game and a PS4 game.

Well I’m enjoying it thus far. Looks great. Not sure why you’re nitpicking tbh.

I switched from resolution mode to performance mode because I was having too much pop in issues in res mode.

So far so good.

[Leetonidas]

Really itching to play Forbidden West but feel like I need to finish DL2 first and I still have a ways to go. Might end up breaking down and getting it this weekend though :lol

[baseline bum]

Well I’m enjoying it thus far. Looks great. Not sure why you’re nitpicking tbh.

I switched from resolution mode to performance mode because I was having too much pop in issues in res mode.

So far so good.

Are you playing on a 4k screen or a 1080p screen? It ain't nitpicking, there are a ton of complaints about it looking terrible on 4k screens, especially OLEDs.

[baseline bum]

I hope Guerilla scraps whatever the fuck upscaler they're using right now for performance mode and just renders 1440p with some TAA. Because you can see an amazing looking world hiding under that god damn sharpening filter they're using.

[Reck]

Are you playing on a 4k screen or a 1080p screen? It ain't nitpicking, there are a ton of complaints about it looking terrible on 4k screens, especially OLEDs.

That might be it then. 1080 led tv here.

I haven’t bought a new tv in years. Surprised with the quality of life from an LG TV.

[baseline bum]

That might be it then. 1080 led tv here.

I haven’t bought a new tv in years. Surprised with the quality of life from an LG TV.

All the complaints on the Horizon reddit seem to be people running on 4k screens. It genuinely looks terrible on my 4k panel, like genuinely the worst looking game I have played on PS5. Maybe they just don't apply that sharpening effect if the system is set to 1080p?

[baseline bum]

HFW graphics are … just wow. I didn’t think I’d be as impressed as I am

Are you playing resolution or performance mode?

[ElNono]

All the complaints on the Horizon reddit seem to be people running on 4k screens. It genuinely looks terrible on my 4k panel, like genuinely the worst looking game I have played on PS5. Maybe they just don't apply that sharpening effect if the system is set to 1080p?

In 1080p it's doing super sampling. The game renders at 1800p checkerboard in performance mode, and that's probably the problem... should've gone with 1600p/1440p TAAU instead.

I'm sure GG knows and is working on a patch ASAP.

[baseline bum]

That might be it then. 1080 led tv here.

I haven’t bought a new tv in years. Surprised with the quality of life from an LG TV.

This is exactly what the game looks like on my monitor. It's hideous.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PG8nauCntw

[baseline bum]

Really itching to play Forbidden West but feel like I need to finish DL2 first and I still have a ways to go. Might end up breaking down and getting it this weekend though :lol

I'd say to give it a couple of weeks and finish off Dying Light 2 first. Because the performance mode looks like ass right now. If you're fine playing at 30 fps the 4k resolution mode looks great but I'm not touching it again until they fix the 60 fps mode. I got 15 minutes in and noped the fuck out.

[Reck]

I'd say to give it a couple of weeks and finish off Dying Light 2 first. Because the performance mode looks like ass right now. If you're fine playing at 30 fps the 4k resolution mode looks great but I'm not touching it again until they fix the 60 fps mode. I got 15 minutes in and noped the fuck out.

You are in the small percentage that this is affecting. It’s not something that’s happening to 100% of people playing on 4K resolution. Some say they’ve fixed it and some are having your problem. It’s weird when you look up news for the game you don’t see it flooded with articles talking about this or really any particular issue.

I do think both modes do need to be furthered polished though. I don’t complain much when it comes to graphics since all I’ve ever played is console games so it’s not like I have experience with PC graphics and all that.

[baseline bum]

You are in the small percentage that this is affecting. It’s not something that’s happening to 100% of people playing on 4K resolution. Some say they’ve fixed it and some are having your problem. It’s weird when you look up news for the game you don’t see it flooded with articles talking about this or really any particular issue.

I do think both modes do need to be furthered polished though. I don’t complain much when it comes to graphics since all I’ve ever played is console games so it’s not like I have experience with PC graphics and all that.

It's a pretty widespread problem

https://www.reddit.com/r/horizon/comments/svdkjg/horizon_forbidden_west_support_thread/

Maybe people who don't have their TVs on game mode are the ones not having problems? People who use their TV's postprocess crap like noise reduction to kill off the oversharpened film grain like effect in the game? It's seriously the ugliest PS5 game I have ever seen on my screen, and stuff like Spiderman and Ghost of Tsushima are jaw dropping on this screen.

[Reck]

It's a pretty widespread problem

https://www.reddit.com/r/horizon/comments/svdkjg/horizon_forbidden_west_support_thread/

Maybe people who don't have their TVs on game mode are the ones not having problems? People who use their TV's postprocess crap like noise reduction to kill off the oversharpened film grain like effect in the game? It's seriously the ugliest PS5 game I have ever seen on my screen, and stuff like Spiderman and Ghost of Tsushima are jaw dropping on this screen.

Must you play it at 4k resolution? Can you just lower settings to 1080 and enjoy the game while they work on fixing the other thing? Game is too good to wait around.

[baseline bum]

Must you play it at 4k resolution? Can you just lower settings to 1080 and enjoy the game while they work on fixing the other thing? Game is too good to wait around.

I tried at 1080p and it does mitigate a lot of of the oversharpening by making the screen a lot blurrier. It's still there but doesn't stick out like a sore thumb the way it does at 4k. But running this screen at 1080p is hard to get used to after running 4k for months. Personally I think you got things wrong, the game sounds too good to not wait for it to be fixed for playing in 4k performance mode.

[baseline bum]

In 1080p it's doing super sampling. The game renders at 1800p checkerboard in performance mode, and that's probably the problem... should've gone with 1600p/1440p TAAU instead.

I'm sure GG knows and is working on a patch ASAP.

Have you tried this game yet? It just looks really rough to me on 4k performance mode.

[Reck]

I tried at 1080p and it does mitigate a lot of of the oversharpening by making the screen a lot blurrier. It's still there but doesn't stick out like a sore thumb the way it does at 4k. But running this screen at 1080p is hard to get used to after running 4k for months. Personally I think you got things wrong, the game sounds too good to not wait for it to be fixed for playing in 4k performance mode.

How about the PS4 version? Digital Foundry did a direct comparison and it wasn’t bad at all. Maybe give that a try?

I’ll probably replay the game again just so I can plat it a second time. Lol

[baseline bum]

How about the PS4 version? Digital Foundry did a direct comparison and it wasn’t bad at all. Maybe give that a try?

I’ll probably replay the game again just so I can plat it a second time. Lol

Why would I install the PS4 version? If I want to play the game at 30 fps I'd just play it on PS5 resolution mode at 4k, which does look good if you want to play at 30 fps.

[chunticakes]

I have DL2 and HZD and I find myself jumping between them. I will say, Forbidden West looks fucking amazing. I have an older Samsung monitor tho. I was awestruck when I first fired it up. I was just stuck there staring at the shrubbery :lol

[baseline bum]

In 1080p it's doing super sampling. The game renders at 1800p checkerboard in performance mode, and that's probably the problem... should've gone with 1600p/1440p TAAU instead.

I'm sure GG knows and is working on a patch ASAP.

Shit, I forgot checkerboard rendering was only rendering half resolution and then reconstructing, so 1600x1800 instead of 3200x1800. You think PS5 could actually render Forbidden West at 1440p 60fps and have enough horsepower left to do a decent TAA too?

[ElNono]

Have you tried this game yet? It just looks really rough to me on 4k performance mode.

I'm playing it on an old Samsung 1080p screen. I've been waiting for HDMI 2.1 TVs to become more widely available before nabbing a 4K HDR-10 120Hz TV like I have at the office.

Now I'm told the company will happily supply me one for home, but I haven't gotten it yet.

[ElNono]

Shit, I forgot checkerboard rendering was only rendering half resolution and then reconstructing, so 1600x1800 instead of 3200x1800. You think PS5 could actually render Forbidden West at 1440p 60fps and have enough horsepower left to do a decent TAA too?

It absolutely can, we're doing either 1600p/60 or 1440p/60 in at least 5 different games. Ratchet uses TAAU as well and has none of these problems. TAAU is barely 0.5 msec. There's actually a newer upscaler on UE5, TSR, that's more expensive (~2 msec), you can see it in the matrix demo, but TAAU is also there.

[ElNono]

Just to clarify, Horizon doesn't use UE, it uses Decima, Guerilla's own engine.

[baseline bum]

It absolutely can, we're doing either 1600p/60 or 1440p/60 in at least 5 different games. Ratchet uses TAAU as well and has none of these problems. TAAU is barely 0.5 msec. There's actually a newer upscaler on UE5, TSR, that's more expensive (~2 msec), you can see it in the matrix demo, but TAAU is also there.

Sorry, I meant for how complicated the game world seems to be in Forbidden West. Seems like a lot more foliage and shit than your typical AAA game that could make 1440p60 problematic.

Do you find the performance mode acceptable on 1080p? I still see the aliasing and oversharpening when I put my monitor in 1080p, but the blurring going to lower resolution makes it much less noticeable. Ugh makes me wish this monitor had some of the noise reduction and interpolation you see on TVs. I always turn that shit off to bring down input lag, but I wonder how many of the people who think this looks fine on 4k on performance mode are using those features of their TVs instead of game modes.

[ElNono]

Sorry, I meant for how complicated the game world seems to be in Forbidden West. Seems like a lot more foliage and shit than your typical AAA game that could make 1440p60 problematic.

That's a good question and depends on a number of things. Not familiar enough with Decima to answer that. Also, Days Gone used checkerboard in 4k, and nobody complained, but I'm curious to know if all that tiny detail actually is part of the problem here. Looks like a lot of the temporal instability comes from foliage, which are thin, small details.
Also wondering if an FXAA pass afterwards would help, but the problem with that is you have to do it after the checkerboard resolve, and that's bandwidth intensive. On the other hand, it would help some with that oversharpening people seem to be complaining about. Will be interesting to see what the fix looks like.


Do you find the performance mode acceptable on 1080p? I still see the aliasing and oversharpening when I put my monitor in 1080p, but the blurring going to lower resolution makes it much less noticeable. Ugh makes me wish this monitor had some of the noise reduction and interpolation you see on TVs. I always turn that shit off to bring down input lag, but I wonder how many of the people who think this looks fine on 4k on performance mode are using those features of their TVs instead of game modes.

I mean, I'm playing the game and enjoying it. That said, this is a game that makes me want to have the 4K HDR TV though, I do feel I'm losing out in a lot of lush detail.

[baseline bum]

That's a good question and depends on a number of things. Not familiar enough with Decima to answer that. Also, Days Gone used checkerboard in 4k, and nobody complained, but I'm curious to know if all that tiny detail actually is part of the problem here. Looks like a lot of the temporal instability comes from foliage, which are thin, small details.
Also wondering if an FXAA pass afterwards would help, but the problem with that is you have to do it after the checkerboard resolve, and that's bandwidth intensive. On the other hand, it would help some with that oversharpening people seem to be complaining about. Will be interesting to see what the fix looks like.



I mean, I'm playing the game and enjoying it. That said, this is a game that makes me want to have the 4K HDR TV though, I do feel I'm losing out in a lot of lush detail.

If you're playing performance mode, you don't want 4k HDR. Looks like total shit. You're missing out on a lot of shimmer and noise. Game legitimately looks less shitty if I put my PS5 in 1080p mode. I think I might try to get this refunded and buy it again in six months for $30 when they have fixed performance mode after seeing Jon Linneman from Digital Foundry say he expects it wouldn't be a quick thing for Guerilla to fix.

It looks pretty nice in 4k30 mode other than some lighting on vegetation changing when you move the camera. But performance mode is a shitshow on 4k.

[baseline bum]

Ugh 2022 is off to a dogshit start with Dying Light 2 unfinished and Horizon Forbidden West's performance mode legitimately being the ugliest thing I have ever played on my PS5. Now I'm just half expecting Elden Ring to be a piece of shit to complete the trilogy of suckage from what was supposed to be the most exciting month in gaming in years.

[Leetonidas]

found the Cyberhands 2177 easter egg in DL2 which is basically the mantis blades. Pretty neat

[Reck]

Encountered my first bug in Horizon.

fps dropped to probably the 10s while out in the world doing contracts. Quitting the game fixes the issue but holy hell. You’d think the game would crash you out but it painfully lets you play it in such condition.


https://youtu.be/CEEJj1mumF8

:lol

[baseline bum]

Damn this looks awesome for August. Had to post the trailer from the JP channel since for some reason the US one is age restricted.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNprjTdTdQI

[spurraider21]

I'm playing it on an old Samsung 1080p screen. I've been waiting for HDMI 2.1 TVs to become more widely available before nabbing a 4K HDR-10 120Hz TV like I have at the office.

Now I'm told the company will happily supply me one for home, but I haven't gotten it yet.
hmm, if the TV i'm using doesnt have HDMI 2.1... is there no good reason to use the 2.1 cable that comes with my PS5?

reason i ask is i already have all my wiring (including my HDMI 2.0 from my PS4) hidden through a cable runner which is going to be a bitch to add a new cable to. if theres no point to it, i can just use the old cable and not have to go through the hassle

[baseline bum]

hmm, if the TV i'm using doesnt have HDMI 2.1... is there no good reason to use the 2.1 cable that comes with my PS5?

reason i ask is i already have all my wiring (including my HDMI 2.0 from my PS4) hidden through a cable runner which is going to be a bitch to add a new cable to. if theres no point to it, i can just use the old cable and not have to go through the hassle

Depends how good of a cable and how long of a run you have. HDMI cable quality pretty much doesn't matter for 1080p 60 fs unless you're doing a long run but whole different story for 4k. Do you know the bandwidth of your current cable? 18Gbps is enough for 4k60. Think it's probably enough for 1080p120 also, but not quite sure there.

[spurraider21]

Depends how good of a cable and how long of a run you have. HDMI cable quality pretty much doesn't matter for 1080p 60 fs unless you're doing a long run but whole different story for 4k. Do you know the bandwidth of your current cable? 18Gbps is enough for 4k60. Think it's probably enough for 1080p120 also, but not quite sure there.
my tv is 4k. its a cheapass one from walmart though :lol. 58 inch hisense roku 4k whatever

its whatever hdmi cable came with the 1TB ps4. since it wasnt the pro, it might not be as good a cable as that one, though

if push comes to shove i can redo the cables and just use the 2.1 that comes with the PS5. just didnt know if it would serve any purpose if my TV doesnt really pick up the 2.1. conceivably would have better bandwidth than my current cable but i dont know the specs on it

might be worth just redoing my wire setup. im probably going to have to yank the cable runner off the wall and just reinstall another one. theoretically the piece facing out should be able to slide off, but since i have it making tight turns along my angled wall, i have just about zero slack to try to actually slide the pieces. and no chance i can just try to push a wire through. would be like pushing a string

[ElNono]

hmm, if the TV i'm using doesnt have HDMI 2.1... is there no good reason to use the 2.1 cable that comes with my PS5?

reason i ask is i already have all my wiring (including my HDMI 2.0 from my PS4) hidden through a cable runner which is going to be a bitch to add a new cable to. if theres no point to it, i can just use the old cable and not have to go through the hassle

4K60 should be ok with the wire you have (HDMI 2.0).

The reasons I want HDMI 2.1 support is for 120hz mode (testing 4k/40, which is becoming the new "cinematic mode" in 120hz displays), and VRR which is coming.

[baseline bum]

my tv is 4k. its a cheapass one from walmart though :lol. 58 inch hisense roku 4k whatever

its whatever hdmi cable came with the 1TB ps4. since it wasnt the pro, it might not be as good a cable as that one, though

if push comes to shove i can redo the cables and just use the 2.1 that comes with the PS5. just didnt know if it would serve any purpose if my TV doesnt really pick up the 2.1. conceivably would have better bandwidth than my current cable but i dont know the specs on it

might be worth just redoing my wire setup. im probably going to have to yank the cable runner off the wall and just reinstall another one. theoretically the piece facing out should be able to slide off, but since i have it making tight turns along my angled wall, i have just about zero slack to try to actually slide the pieces. and no chance i can just try to push a wire through. would be like pushing a string

The HDMI cable that came with the PS4 Pro is 18Gbps which is what you need for 4k60. The HDMI cable that came with the original PS4 is 10.2Gbps which can't do 4k60, I think it can only do 4k24. Haven't managed to find out which one came with the PS4 Slim though. Since the Slim can only output at 1080p or lower it wouldn't surprise me if they only included the 10.2Gbps HDMI cable that was in the original PS4.

[vy65]

Out of curiosity, what makes a HDMI 2.1 cable? I use a 12' Rocketfish 8k cable that says its HDMI 2.1, but I can't really recall much of a difference between it and my older cables.

[baseline bum]

4K60 should be ok with the wire you have (HDMI 2.0).

The reasons I want HDMI 2.1 support is for 120hz mode (testing 4k/40, which is becoming the new "cinematic mode" in 120hz displays), and VRR which is coming.

I thought there is no such thing as an HDMI 2.0 cable. I haven't found anything that says the PS4 Slim comes with an 18Gbps HDMI cable, only that the PS4 Pro does.

[baseline bum]

Out of curiosity, what makes a HDMI 2.1 cable? I use a 12' Rocketfish 8k cable that says its HDMI 2.1, but I can't really recall much of a difference between it and my older cables.

It needs to provide 48Gbps of bandwidth, eg enough for 4k at 120Hz. Most HDMI cables today are 18Gbps, enough for 4k at 60 Hz.

[spurraider21]

The HDMI cable that came with the PS4 Pro is 18Gbps which is what you need for 4k60. The HDMI cable that came with the original PS4 is 10.2Gbps which can't do 4k60, I think it can only do 4k24. Haven't managed to find out which one came with the PS4 Slim though. Since the Slim can only output at 1080p or lower it wouldn't surprise me if they only included the 10.2Gbps HDMI cable that was in the original PS4.
hm. arite then its probably just worth using the better cable then, even if i'm not getting the "2.1" out of it

[vy65]

It needs to provide 48Gbps of bandwidth, eg enough for 4k at 120Hz. Most HDMI cables today are 18Gbps, enough for 4k at 60 Hz.

https://pisces.bbystatic.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/6431/6431223cv11d.jpg;canvasHeight=350;canvasWidth=350

Cost me $80. I don't understand why people spend hundreds of dollars on these things

[baseline bum]

https://pisces.bbystatic.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/6431/6431223cv11d.jpg;canvasHeight=350;canvasWidth=350

Cost me $80. I don't understand why people spend hundreds of dollars on these things

Ouch, Best Buy is a price gouging bastard when it comes to cables and other accessories. If you can make the run in 10 feet you could just get an amazonbasics 48Gbps HDMI cable for $11.63 and if you can make the run in 6 feet it's $8.

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-HDMI-Cable-White/dp/B08BS2FVB7/

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-HDMI-Cable-Black/dp/B08BS29VG4

[vy65]

Ouch, Best Buy is a price gouging bastard when it comes to cables and other accessories. If you can make the run in 10 feet you could just get an amazonbasics 48Gbps HDMI cable for $11.63 and if you can make the run in 6 feet it's $8.

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-HDMI-Cable-White/dp/B08BS2FVB7/

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-HDMI-Cable-Black/dp/B08BS29VG4

It hurts, but I needed 12' because I'm running behind my wall.

[ElNono]

I thought there is no such thing as an HDMI 2.0 cable. I haven't found anything that says the PS4 Slim comes with an 18Gbps HDMI cable, only that the PS4 Pro does.

Sorry, you're right. I meant the 18Gbps cable.

[baseline bum]

4K60 should be ok with the wire you have (HDMI 2.0).

The reasons I want HDMI 2.1 support is for 120hz mode (testing 4k/40, which is becoming the new "cinematic mode" in 120hz displays), and VRR which is coming.

Shit I didn't even think of 4k40, was wondering why you were so hung up on 4k120 when even RTX 3090 couldn't pull that off much less PS5. But 4k40 would be really nice to have and I hope more PS5 games support it in the future even if my 60Hz panel can't make use of it.

[baseline bum]

4K60 should be ok with the wire you have (HDMI 2.0).

The reasons I want HDMI 2.1 support is for 120hz mode (testing 4k/40, which is becoming the new "cinematic mode" in 120hz displays), and VRR which is coming.

Speaking of VRR, is there any chance in hell PS5 will support FreeSync? Or are they only going to support HDMI 2.1 VRR? XBox supporting FreeSync pretty much ensures the Series X is going to be my main console for multiplatform games later in the gen when you see fewer games locking to 60 fps since 45-55 fps still looks awesome with FreeSync.

[ElNono]

Shit I didn't even think of 4k40, was wondering why you were so hung up on 4k120 when even RTX 3090 couldn't pull that off much less PS5. But 4k40 would be really nice to have and I hope more PS5 games support it in the future even if my 60Hz panel can't make use of it.

Ratchet added a 4k40 mode. Haven't seen it yet, but received good feedback so far.


Speaking of VRR, is there any chance in hell PS5 will support FreeSync? Or are they only going to support HDMI 2.1 VRR? XBox supporting FreeSync pretty much ensures the Series X is going to be my main console for multiplatform games later in the gen when you see fewer games locking to 60 fps since 45-55 fps still looks awesome with FreeSync.

I don't know exactly what VRR looks like yet.

[Reck]

Not really loving the swimming mechanic in Horizon. Very slow and awkward.

I’ve died more times underwater than in combat.

[DJR210]

https://pisces.bbystatic.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/6431/6431223cv11d.jpg;canvasHeight=350;canvasWidth=350

Cost me $80. I don't understand why people spend hundreds of dollars on these things

:lol you got ripped off too boss

[baseline bum]

The 1.005 patch for Forbidden West seems to improve how the game looks a lot on my monitor now. Still a pretty noisy picture from the checkerboard rendering but now the trees and some of the crap on the ground don't look oversharpened to shit anymore. The palm trees looked truly horrific on 1.004, like they were pulled from an XBox 360 game or something, but now they look like what I'd expect on a PS5. Looks good enough that I'd pull it off the backlog if Elden Ring wasn't coming in two days. I'll wait for the reviews tonight and for community feedback Friday to see if I keep my preorder for Elden Ring though.

[baseline bum]

Wow Elden Ring is piling up 10/10 reviews.

[baseline bum]

Holy shit, Elden Ring has a 97 on metacritic, same scores GTA V, Breath of the Wild, and RDR2 got. Puts it in a tie for the sixth best reviewed game of alltime by their metric.

[NASpurs]

Just got notified that my copy of Elden Ring was shipped. Can't wait.

[baseline bum]

Just got notified that my copy of Elden Ring was shipped. Can't wait.

What are you playing it on?

[NASpurs]

What are you playing it on?

PS5

[baseline bum]

Playstation / XBox versions go live at 11PM CST tomorrow night. PC at 5PM CST tomorrow.

[NASpurs]

What I get from the reviews is that this is Zelda-ish, Skyrim-ish Dark Souls. Can't wait to play this game for months.

[Joseph Kony]

Just got my collector's edition of Forbidden West...god damn this statue is huge :lol

Still need to finish dying light but gonna fire it up for a bit just to check it out and see what it looks like

[Reck]

Holy shit, Elden Ring has a 97 on metacritic, same scores GTA V, Breath of the Wild, and RDR2 got. Puts it in a tie for the sixth best reviewed game of alltime by their metric.

Might want to wait a bit.


https://youtu.be/Yma9dJRAlo4

These day one patch shtick are getting out of hand.

[baseline bum]

Playing this when it comes out.

It came out an hour ago on PC. Will be on console in 5 hours.

[baseline bum]

Fuck it. I'll yolo for a couple hours.

What system you running? I'm interested how the PC port is.

[baseline bum]

Pc. Let me dl it right now.

I meant like gpu. And what resolution.

[baseline bum]

I got a 3080ti i9 and play on 1440p with 240hz monitor

Shit man might as well render at 4k and downsample to 1440p with that kind of setup, especially considering FromSoft games usually have 60 fps caps.

[redzero]

2 hrs 20 mins Elden Ringbros. Got it on PS5.

[baseline bum]

nm

[baseline bum]

Ouch, Elden Ring only 60% positive in 17,455 Steam reviews

[baseline bum]

Canceled my PS5 pre-order of Elden Ring just like I did with Dying Light 2, JFC everything but Sifu released in a fucked up state this month. Pirated on PoorC to test it out and performance not very good even at 1080p with my GTX 1660 Super. I'll get this later on PS5 but not buying until they get this running 60 fps in performance mode. I have too much good shit in my backlog like Shin Megami Tensei V, Yakuza Like a Dragon, Final Fantasy VII Remake, Demon's Souls PS5, Deathloop, Judgment, etc to jump into Elden Ring before the game is finished.

[baseline bum]

Should have expected poorly optimized games this month I guess with 2.5 months of omicron decimating the workforce.

[baseline bum]

2 hrs 20 mins Elden Ringbros. Got it on PS5.

So are you playing PS4 BC mode for the steady framerate or PS5 native performance mode? As much as I hate the performance, after pirating the PoorC game, playing for an hour, and having it run like dogshit on my Haswell Xeon + GTX 1660 Super system it's still a good enough game that I probably will buy the PS5 version today. LOL like every other Dark Souls game though I hate armor, was playing naked so I could roll fast.

[spurraider21]

Ouch, Elden Ring only 60% positive in 17,455 Steam reviews
probably people complaining that its :cry too hard :cry

[baseline bum]

probably people complaining that its :cry too hard :cry

Nah performance is pretty rough on PC and that's the majority of the complaints. From's pc ports are almost always really bad unless you have hardware way above console spec just to brute force good performance. Even seeing lots of complaints from people with high end hardware this time though.

[baseline bum]

probably people complaining that its :cry too hard :cry

Nah performance is pretty rough on PC and that's the majority of the complaints. From's pc ports are almost always really bad unless you have hardware way above console spec just to brute force good performance. Even seeing lots of complaints from people with high end hardware this time though.

[Reck]

probably people complaining that its :cry too hard :cry

Why would they do that? It’s a game from fromSoftware. You expect and want hard games from them since that’s their bread and butter.

[spurraider21]

Why would they do that? It’s a game from fromSoftware. You expect and want hard games from them since that’s their bread and butter.
you dont remember the swarms of game reviewers whining about sekiro not having an easy mode? :lol

[baseline bum]

Well the framerate is pretty rock solid playing the PS4 Pro mode of Elden Ring on PS5, straight 60 the whole way. Much better experience than trying to play this on my PC early this morning. Though you can definitely tell a difference in visuals. Looks kind of around the medium setting on PC though the 1800p checkboarding looks a lot cleaner than native 1080p.

[redzero]

Playing on PS5. Performance mode is meh. I am using the flail. Don't know if it sucks or not, but the bleed is good.

[baseline bum]

Color me impressed as hell with Elden Ring. Definitely better than I thought it would be, and I expected this to be the best game released since God of War. But I never expected it could match the exploration aspect of Skyrim. FromSoft really hit this out of the park, the open world really works well here when you're searching out interesting miniboss and boss fights out in the open and then cool dungeons. Just hope I haven't fucked myself by doing a build that doesn't parry, as the uchigatana is a really killer weapon for dodge roll and snipe hits with the sheathe ability that does massive damage. Keeping a shield just in case the sheathe attack and the bow prove to not be enough later in the game.

[Xevious]

Color me impressed as hell with Elden Ring. Definitely better than I thought it would be, and I expected this to be the best game released since God of War. But I never expected it could match the exploration aspect of Skyrim. FromSoft really hit this out of the park, the open world really works well here when you're searching out interesting miniboss and boss fights out in the open and then cool dungeons. Just hope I haven't fucked myself by doing a build that doesn't parry, as the uchigatana is a really killer weapon for dodge roll and snipe hits with the sheathe ability that does massive damage. Keeping a shield just in case the sheathe attack and the bow prove to not be enough later in the game.
I know GRRM helped design shit, but does it have any type of narrative/storyline, or is it like other FromSoftware games with an open world?

[Xevious]

dp

[baseline bum]

I know GRRM helped design shit, but does it have any type of narrative/storyline, or is it like other FromSoftware games with an open world?

It's a FromSoft game with an open world. Not getting a God of War level story or anything.

[Reck]

I know GRRM helped design shit, but does it have any type of narrative/storyline, or is it like other FromSoftware games with an open world?

:lol Good on FromSoftware to attach his name to bait newbies into buying a game thinking there would be any story attach to this project.

[baseline bum]

:lol Good on FromSoftware to attach his name to bait newbies into buying a game thinking there would be any story attach to this project.

LOL yeah story is always minimal in FromSoft games. Still man, this is fucking must play. At least 9/10.

[Thread]

Per the usual...Old Time Baseball from '94 in a DOS box on the PC.

I'm the 1956 New York Yankees with Mantle, Berra, Ford, et al.

Having the time of me life.

[Xevious]

:lol Good on FromSoftware to attach his name to bait newbies into buying a game thinking there would be any story attach to this project.
I guess that's what confused me. Wasn't sure if his involvement was anything more than marketing.

[DJR210]

Elden Ring is stupid fucking hard.. The first dude on horseback you run into has already killed me at least 25 times.

[spurraider21]

Elden Ring is stupid fucking hard.. The first dude on horseback you run into has already killed me at least 25 times.
clears throat

GIT GUD

[baseline bum]

Elden Ring is stupid fucking hard.. The first dude on horseback you run into has already killed me at least 25 times.

You're not supposed to fight him yet man, haven't you ever played a Souls game? :lol

[NASpurs]

You're not supposed to fight him yet man, haven't you ever played a Souls game? :lol

Yeah basically if you're getting your ass kicked, go somewhere else and then come back.

[SpursforSix]

[QUOTE=baseline bum;10492422]What Remains of Edith Finch for $8 on the Playstation Store is a really good deal too. One of those walking simulators that's a great palate cleanser after a large game, but has such great storytelling and good looking graphics too.

A couple of games "like" Edith Finch that I played over the weekend:

Firewatcher : walking simulator with great story and voice acting.
Gone Home : another walking simulator with great story and voice acting.

Neither is particularly difficult but both are well worth playing if you're just looking for a chill game with great story.

I never thought I'd like these kind of games but Edith Finch changed that.

[baseline bum]

What Remains of Edith Finch for $8 on the Playstation Store is a really good deal too. One of those walking simulators that's a great palate cleanser after a large game, but has such great storytelling and good looking graphics too.

A couple of games "like" Edith Finch that I played over the weekend:

Firewatcher : walking simulator with great story and voice acting.
Gone Home : another walking simulator with great story and voice acting.

Neither is particularly difficult but both are well worth playing if you're just looking for a chill game with great story.

I never thought I'd like these kind of games but Edith Finch changed that.

Firewatch is hilarious, especially playing it like a sarcastic bastard. Never tried Gone Home yet, might need a walking simulator when I'm done with Elden Ring considering how much I keep dying in the game. :lol

[Reck]

You're not supposed to fight him yet man, haven't you ever played a Souls game? :lol

Games like these should be free to play, tbh.

I honestly don’t see the point of playing a game just to beat bosses non stop. You need a break here and there.

Does playing games of this caliber translate into normal games? That is to say, do you find playing other games on hard “easier” because you have the experience of playing an extremely hard game and conquering it?

I would think it would at least make your instincts sharper, no?

[baseline bum]

Games like these should be free to play, tbh.

I honestly don’t see the point of playing a game just to beat bosses non stop. You need a break here and there.

Does playing games of this caliber translate into normal games? That is to say, do you find playing other games on hard “easier” because you have the experience of playing an extremely hard game and conquering it?

I would think it would at least make your instincts sharper, no?

Why should Souls games be Free to Play? That's a fucking disgusting thought, turning one of the greatest current franchises in gaming into some microtransaction laden pay2win crap. Thank fucking god From Software isn't going down the Ubisoft trash route. If we didn't have developers like From making amazing first party games you pay once for there is no way in hell I would have ever bought a PS5.

[Reck]

Why should Souls games be Free to Play? That's a fucking disgusting thought, turning one of the greatest current franchises in gaming into some microtransaction laden pay2win crap. Thank fucking god From Software isn't going down the Ubisoft trash route. If we didn't have developers like From making amazing first party games you pay once for there is no way in hell I would have ever bought a PS5.

Because it’s a one trick pony that’s why.

[baseline bum]

Because it’s a one trick pony that’s why.

LOL the series with the some of the best fighting mechanics and tons of different interesting builds that play completely differently is a one trick pony? Where do you come up with this shit? Have you even played any Soulsborne games or Sekiro?

[Reck]

LOL the series with the some of the best fighting mechanics and tons of different interesting builds that play completely differently is a one trick pony? Where do you come up with this shit? Have you even played any Soulsborne games or Sekiro?

I have Sekiro, just haven’t played it yet.

To me Sekiro is different than a Souls game. It at least has some sort of a cohesive story and the combat has a fluid and rhythm to it.

Don’t get defensive about it, man. I just don’t find raging for 10 hours at a boss appealing at all. But Souls players got my respect for their dedication either way. I know for sure I couldn’t beat one boss on my best day. :lol

[Reck]

*Double post*

[ElNono]

Might be a one trick pony, but it's been hard to duplicate. Even games that come close like Nioh are different.

[baseline bum]

I have Sekiro, just haven’t played it yet.

To me Sekiro is different than a Souls game. It at least has some sort of a cohesive story and the combat has a fluid and rhythm to it.

Don’t get defensive about it, man. I just don’t find raging for 10 hours at a boss appealing at all. But Souls players got my respect for their dedication either way. I know for sure I couldn’t beat one boss on my best day. :lol

Raging at a boss for ten hours? Boss fights are pretty quick in the Souls games, it's not button mashing to wail away at damage sponges. I don't think you understand this series very well and are caught up in the hype of them being somehow overly difficult.

[baseline bum]

Might be a one trick pony, but it's been hard to duplicate. Even games that come close like Nioh are different.

It's not just bossfights. From always creates interesting worlds and while the graphics are nothing special on a technical level, the art style is. Plus Elden Ring now has the most interesting open world exploration since Breath of the Wild IMO.

[Leetonidas]

Playing Souls games takes a special type of person tbh. You have to be someone who really enjoys the rush of beating an insanely difficult challenge and the feeling of triumph tbh. Dark Souls 3 is one of the hardest games I've ever played but man it felt amazing when i finally beat that game.

I usually play games on the hardest setting available on my first playthrough so i'm someone who enjoys difficult games especially since most games are waaay too easy after playing it for a few hours. but i get why dying over and over again and the game not giving you any clear direction or hints can be extremely frustrating and turn a lot of people off :lol


Souls games are not just beating bosses non stop btw...there are plenty of normal enemies that present challenges. and the numerous hidden side quests / areas / secrets / etc make it pretty entertaining. the game makes you find the story which i find refreshing in the age of constant map markers and HUDs

[Xevious]

Playing Souls games takes a special type of person tbh. You have to be someone who really enjoys the rush of beating an insanely difficult challenge and the feeling of triumph tbh. Dark Souls 3 is one of the hardest games I've ever played but man it felt amazing when i finally beat that game.

I usually play games on the hardest setting available on my first playthrough so i'm someone who enjoys difficult games especially since most games are waaay too easy after playing it for a few hours. but i get why dying over and over again and the game not giving you any clear direction or hints can be extremely frustrating and turn a lot of people off :lol


Souls games are not just beating bosses non stop btw...there are plenty of normal enemies that present challenges. and the numerous hidden side quests / areas / secrets / etc make it pretty entertaining. the game makes you find the story which i find refreshing in the age of constant map markers and HUDs
Sounds like older Bethesda games tbh (Morrowind and earlier). Unfortunately with the limited time I have to spend on gaming, I think something like this would be lost on me and I'd give up without finishing. I've been pretty hard on open-world games lately anyway. Sometimes bigger isn't always better. My OCD kicks in, I try to complete everything, then I get burnt out before ever making any real progress. I'd rather have at least a little structure.

[baseline bum]

Playing Souls games takes a special type of person tbh. You have to be someone who really enjoys the rush of beating an insanely difficult challenge and the feeling of triumph tbh. Dark Souls 3 is one of the hardest games I've ever played but man it felt amazing when i finally beat that game.

I usually play games on the hardest setting available on my first playthrough so i'm someone who enjoys difficult games especially since most games are waaay too easy after playing it for a few hours. but i get why dying over and over again and the game not giving you any clear direction or hints can be extremely frustrating and turn a lot of people off :lol


Souls games are not just beating bosses non stop btw...there are plenty of normal enemies that present challenges. and the numerous hidden side quests / areas / secrets / etc make it pretty entertaining. the game makes you find the story which i find refreshing in the age of constant map markers and HUDs

Did you find Dark Souls 3 harder than Bloodborne? And if so, did you play the DLC for Bloodborne?

[DJR210]

You're not supposed to fight him yet man, haven't you ever played a Souls game? :lol

Yeah, I knew he was supposed to be fought when more powerful, but I wish they would have included the level of the enemy or a skull icon or something so you know they are too tough at the current level

[baseline bum]

Yeah, I knew he was supposed to be fought when more powerful, but I wish they would have included the level of the enemy or a skull icon or something so you know they are too tough at the current level

Getting your teeth kicked in 25 times wasn't enough of a sign to know he was too tough for your level?

[redzero]

Every damn enemy has DS2 tracking. Being behind them means next to nothing, because they will 180° no scope every time. I'm going to summon the jellyfish every fight, because the game doesn't want to play fair.

[Thread]

Every damn enemy has DS2 tracking. Being behind them means next to nothing, because they will 180° no scope every time. I'm going to summon the jellyfish every fight, because the game doesn't want to play fair.

red!!!
Sweetheart!!!!!!
Pumpkinpuss!!!!!!!!!

[Thread]

Getting your teeth kicked in 25 times wasn't enough of a sign to know he was too tough for your level?

That's never stopped you from trying me.

[baseline bum]

Every damn enemy has DS2 tracking. Being behind them means next to nothing, because they will 180° no scope every time. I'm going to summon the jellyfish every fight, because the game doesn't want to play fair.

You like the jellyfish better than the wolves?

[DJR210]

Getting your teeth kicked in 25 times wasn't enough of a sign to know he was too tough for your level?

He's still beatable if you're patient enough, as are several of the opening areas mini bosses. Especially if you have projectiles.

[redzero]

Have you seen the poison the jellyfish does? I beat Godrick on my second try with it.

I also just got the turtle shield and it's OP. Think I'll let it carry me.

[spurraider21]

Games like these should be free to play, tbh.
:lmao wtf

[spurraider21]

Raging at a boss for ten hours? Boss fights are pretty quick in the Souls games, it's not button mashing to wail away at damage sponges. I don't think you understand this series very well and are caught up in the hype of them being somehow overly difficult.
the games are challenging and actually requires you to learn their mechanics well. it takes effort, but they're not impossibly difficult. other games have "hard" difficulties that feel way more unfair than anything from FromSoft, where they make you die in like 1 hit and enemies are huge damage sponges. hell, if your first time playing God of War 2018 was on the give me god of war difficulty, it would have taken you at least 30 minutes just to beat the very first enemy encounter against basic draugr

honestly the hardest part of souls was not the combat or the bosses, but sometimes just figuring out where to go. took me quite a while in Dark Souls Remastered to figure out that i had to open that basement door to get into lower undead parish -> Depths. same with bloodborne and finding my way out of the forbidden woods.

tho some bloodborne chalice dungeon bosses, to steal a quote from honest trailers, felt like trying to break bricks with a flaccid penis

[Leetonidas]

Did you find Dark Souls 3 harder than Bloodborne? And if so, did you play the DLC for Bloodborne?

It's been awhile and I have gotten considerably better at games since then but I'd say yes, Bloodborne was hard but there were a few bosses in DS3 that were just infuriating :lol but no I didn't play the DLC for bloodborne so not sure how much harder it gets

[DJR210]

I definitely like Sekiro better than ER.. Dark Souls III too. Never played the other two entries.

And to update my thoughts from a week or so ago on God of War the combat is actually great, better than Sekiro, I spoke too soon.

[baseline bum]

It's been awhile and I have gotten considerably better at games since then but I'd say yes, Bloodborne was hard but there were a few bosses in DS3 that were just infuriating :lol but no I didn't play the DLC for bloodborne so not sure how much harder it gets

Then you haven't played the hard part of Bloodborne.

[baseline bum]

the games are challenging and actually requires you to learn their mechanics well. it takes effort, but they're not impossibly difficult. other games have "hard" difficulties that feel way more unfair than anything from FromSoft, where they make you die in like 1 hit and enemies are huge damage sponges. hell, if your first time playing God of War 2018 was on the give me god of war difficulty, it would have taken you at least 30 minutes just to beat the very first enemy encounter against basic draugr

honestly the hardest part of souls was not the combat or the bosses, but sometimes just figuring out where to go. took me quite a while in Dark Souls Remastered to figure out that i had to open that basement door to get into lower undead parish -> Depths. same with bloodborne and finding my way out of the forbidden woods.

tho some bloodborne chalice dungeon bosses, to steal a quote from honest trailers, felt like trying to break bricks with a flaccid penis

I never found any chalice dungeon bosses nearly as hard as Orphan of Kos. Kos was so fast and didn't telegraph his attacks anywhere near as much as every other boss in the game when I was fighting him. That's the one boss I did take hours of failed attempts to figure out.

[spurraider21]

I never found any chalice dungeon bosses nearly as hard as Orphan of Kos. Kos was so fast and didn't telegraph his attacks anywhere near as much as every other boss in the game when I was fighting him. That's the one boss I did take hours of failed attempts to figure out.
Kos was insane but also the very last thing i did, so i was pretty adept at combat by then and was fairly leveled up. i was doing chalice dungeons to completion almost as soon as i unlocked them. amygdala in the defiled dungeon where you have half health was rough. abhorrent beast was absurdly aggressive giving you virtually no windows to heal. the fire watchdog thing was also a lot of one hit kills. and the electric darkbeast thing (harder version of the one you fight outside Yarghul unseen village)

ive also had weird experiences in games where i struggle against enemies that arent considered hard and have an easy time through supposedly harder challenges. when i played Dark Souls Remastered i beat Ornstein and Smough in like 3-4 tries iirc, Capra Demon on my first try. hardest battles i fought there were in the DLC portions, artorius and manus

[Leetonidas]

Then you haven't played the hard part of Bloodborne.

Hopefully they release that shit on PC at some point or remaster it for PS5 otherwise I never will :lol tried to go back and play it awhile back and I just couldn't. The shitty framerate hurts my eyes now

[Leetonidas]

Forbidden West is so fuckin good though. Just the prologue was fun as hell and the embassy mission...awesome. just barely scratching the surface at this point.

[spurraider21]

just sold my PS4 on marketplace for more than i bought it for in 2018 (and it came with Spider-Man when i bought it too) :lol

[baseline bum]

just sold my PS4 on marketplace for more than i bought it for in 2018 (and it came with Spider-Man when i bought it too) :lol

One of the few decent things to come out of the pandemic was the increased demand for gaming has kept PS4 demand pretty high. I sold mine in 2021 for the same price I paid for it new in 2016. That plus getting BC with much better versions of PS4 games made upgrading to PS5 a no-brainer IMO. Loving being able to play everything at 60 fps now. Can finally combine PoorStation exclusives with PoorC performance to get the best of both worlds.

[baseline bum]

Hopefully they release that shit on PC at some point or remaster it for PS5 otherwise I never will :lol tried to go back and play it awhile back and I just couldn't. The shitty framerate hurts my eyes now

You're missing a couple of the best bossfights in gaming by skipping The Old Hunters DLC.

[ElNono]

the games are challenging and actually requires you to learn their mechanics well. it takes effort, but they're not impossibly difficult. other games have "hard" difficulties that feel way more unfair than anything from FromSoft, where they make you die in like 1 hit and enemies are huge damage sponges. hell, if your first time playing God of War 2018 was on the give me god of war difficulty, it would have taken you at least 30 minutes just to beat the very first enemy encounter against basic draugr

honestly the hardest part of souls was not the combat or the bosses, but sometimes just figuring out where to go. took me quite a while in Dark Souls Remastered to figure out that i had to open that basement door to get into lower undead parish -> Depths. same with bloodborne and finding my way out of the forbidden woods.

tho some bloodborne chalice dungeon bosses, to steal a quote from honest trailers, felt like trying to break bricks with a flaccid penis

The difference is that a game like GOW you can play in 'normal' and it's still somewhat challenging, but gives you a learning curve to the combat system. By the time you reach the end, you're fully trained for give me god of war mode.

I hate games that are impossibly difficult and don't even let you cheese them at least to advance. Even Demons Souls lets you cheese the bosses if you're creative enough.

For me Sekiro was a game that I put hours on end and I never felt I've got better. I reached a boss that was simply not possible to beat for me. I wanted to even cheese and advance, and couldn't either. I just deleted it.

[baseline bum]

The difference is that a game like GOW you can play in 'normal' and it's still somewhat challenging, but gives you a learning curve to the combat system. By the time you reach the end, you're fully trained for give me god of war mode.

I hate games that are impossibly difficult and don't even let you cheese them at least to advance. Even Demons Souls lets you cheese the bosses if you're creative enough.

For me Sekiro was a game that I put hours on end and I never felt I've got better. I reached a boss that was simply not possible to beat for me. I wanted to even cheese and advance, and couldn't either. I just deleted it.

What did you think of Bloodborne? Sekiro felt a lot like Bloodborne to me: either you learn how to time parries or you're just fucking stuck.

[ElNono]

What did you think of Bloodborne? Sekiro felt a lot like Bloodborne to me: either you learn how to time parries or you're just fucking stuck.

To be frank, I wasn't into those games at the time, and I had an XBOX 360 for the longest time as well, so I sorta missed it when it came out.

At some point I picked it up and, IIRC, I played it until the first boss, but I just didn't have time then to give it the attention it deserved and I never went back to it.

It's one of those games I'll probably catch on a remaster if it ever happens (like Demon's Soul) and play them through.

[baseline bum]

To be frank, I wasn't into those games at the time, and I had an XBOX 360 for the longest time as well, so I sorta missed it when it came out.

At some point I picked it up and, IIRC, I played it until the first boss, but I just didn't have time then to give it the attention it deserved and I never went back to it.

It's one of those games I'll probably catch on a remaster if it ever happens (like Demon's Soul) and play them through.

Well, Elden Ring is way more forgiving. You can play a melee character that depends on parry like in Sekiro or Bloodborne. You can play one that depends on blocking with a shield like is the standard in Demon's Souls and Dark Souls. You can play a melee character with no shield that's aggressive and depends on dodging and counter attacks. You can play a character who uses magic from range, which is generally considered to be the easy mode for the game.

Also if you cheesed Tower Knight with arrows in Demon's Souls you missed a really cool bossfight IMO. I would use arrows to take out the archers around him sometimes, but the fun way (after clearing out the archers) is to get in close and hack away at his feet, like you're cutting his achilles or something. Then when he falls to the ground go up and stab him in the head or chest (I forget which) for a critical attack. It's a pretty cool sight seeing that big fucker crash to the ground after you attack his feet.

[ElNono]

Well, Elden Ring is way more forgiving. You can play a melee character that depends on parry like in Sekiro or Bloodborne. You can play one that depends on blocking with a shield like is the standard in Demon's Souls and Dark Souls. You can play a melee character with no shield that's aggressive and depends on dodging and counter attacks. You can play a character who uses magic from range, which is generally considered to be the easy mode for the game.

Also if you cheesed Tower Knight with arrows in Demon's Souls you missed a really cool bossfight IMO. I would use arrows to take out the archers around him sometimes, but the fun way is to get in close and hack away at his feet, like you're cutting his achilles or something. Then when he falls to the ground go up and stab him in the head or chest (I forget which) for a critical attack. It's a pretty cool sight seeing that big fucker crash to the ground after you attack his feet.

I could never get behind his feet without getting crushed. And that meant I had to start the level again. My first instinct when I start to get frustrated is 1) figure out how to not get hit, and 2) find a way to cheese it.

I'm glad I did. After that fight, I really didn't have much trouble with the other bosses.

[baseline bum]

I could never get behind his feet without getting crushed. And that meant I had to start the level again. My first instinct when I start to get frustrated is 1) figure out how to not get hit, and 2) find a way to cheese it.

I'm glad I did. After that fight, I really didn't have much trouble with the other bosses.

Were you playing a tank build with heavy armor? I could see that being tough then. I played Demon's Souls in super light robes instead of armor to preserve agility if I remember right, so Tower Knight was like the easiest boss in the game for my build.

[ElNono]

Were you playing a tank build with heavy armor? I could see that being tough then. I played Demon's Souls in super light robes instead of armor to preserve agility if I remember right, so Tower Knight was like the easiest boss in the game for my build.

Definitely a tank. Just got my copy of Elden Ring, but I'm gonna finish Forbidden West first, I'm almost done.

[Reck]

Welp I’m not buying Gran Turismo 7.

just found out it’s an always online game. What a disgusting practice this is.

You shouldn’t need to be shackled online to play it’s campaign mode.

[redzero]

I upgraded the Icerind Hatchet to lvl 5 and it's hilarious how busted this thing is. I put my summon sign down outside of Godrick's fog gate, get summoned and then just L2 spam until he dies. I thought bleed was broken, but this is something else.

Abuse it while you still can, folks.

[baseline bum]

I upgraded the Icerind Hatchet to lvl 5 and it's hilarious how busted this thing is. I put my summon sign down outside of Godrick's fog gate, get summoned and then just L2 spam until he dies. I thought bleed was broken, but this is something else.

Abuse it while you still can, folks.

I'm having too much fun with the sheathe attack on the uchigatana. Gotta say Crucible Knight at Stormhill Evergaol was a bastard though until I figured I could roll backwards when he did the flying attack at me in the second phase and have a wide opening for a heavy sheathe attack as soon as he landed. Wish I hadn't dumped points into strength early on though now that I have some ashes to make the uchigatana scale at B-level with dexterity while keeping sheathe as the special attack.

[baseline bum]

Fuck me, dual handing doesn't do shit for your weapon damage and I have just been playing without a shield for no reason after finding out you can remove special effects from shields via the No Skill ash of war. Which is an ash I can go and buy in the beginning of the game. JFC been fighting all these bosses with no shield and just dodging for no reason whatsoever, as the best part of the dual hand moveset is just wailing on enemies with R1 weak attacks once you land that first. Which works great against scrubs but not high poise bosses, where I use sheathe and charged R2 heavy attacks almost exclusively since your hit windows are usually short in boss fights. And those are the same move single or dual hand. オレ馬鹿なんだよ。

[ElNono]

:lol Huge mistake to start Elden Ring after finishing Horizon... graphically it looks so shitty in comparison, tbh. I'm left wondering how this got a 10 in most reviews. You're wandering around too, no clue what you need to do, etc.

I started a Hero build (I prefer melee) and got my ass kicked pretty thoroughly, and this is before even really trying to fight the dragon. I think I'm gonna try the Confessor, but I would really love a ranged character that's not a magic character.

[Reck]

Beat Horizon earlier.

Good, but definitely not as good as the first. They nerfed most weapons this time and made every single machine a chore to take down.

[baseline bum]

:lol Huge mistake to start Elden Ring after finishing Horizon... graphically it looks so shitty in comparison, tbh. I'm left wondering how this got a 10 in most reviews. You're wandering around too, no clue what you need to do, etc.

I started a Hero build (I prefer melee) and got my ass kicked pretty thoroughly, and this is before even really trying to fight the dragon. I think I'm gonna try the Confessor, but I would really love a ranged character that's not a magic character.

Honestly think Forbidden West is the shittiest looking game on PS5. Zero Dawn looks way better.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0YwR1egza8

[baseline bum]

Have you seen the poison the jellyfish does? I beat Godrick on my second try with it.

I also just got the turtle shield and it's OP. Think I'll let it carry me.

I think I spent too much time exploring the east end of the map before doing any of the main story missions, because both Margit and Godric were complete pushovers with a +7 uchigatana, using heavy unsheathe attacks. Beat both of them easily on my first try and north of the castle is pretty easy compared to the area in the east I was playing before. Crucible Knight has still been by far the hardest boss I have faced in this game, much smaller hit windows than Margit and Godric.

[ElNono]

Honestly think Forbidden West is the shittiest looking game on PS5. Zero Dawn looks way better.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0YwR1egza8

We talked why I don't have the visual problem you do, but what I mean is that it's a vibrant, beautiful world to look at. There's always something going on, and not a hitch.

Just really unimpressed how bare and empty Elden Ring looks, and even in perf mode, the hitches are crazy bad, especially since the game is graphically nothing special.

I still don't know how you level up or do anything really, or why I'm walking around and killing monsters/soldiers, or where I need to go.

I get the FromSoft hype, but this is nowhere near a 10, IMO. The Demon's Souls remake is 10 times better looking and plays a lot better as well.

[baseline bum]

We talked why I don't have the visual problem you do, but what I mean is that it's a vibrant, beautiful world to look at. There's always something going on, and not a hitch.

Just really unimpressed how bare and empty Elden Ring looks, and even in perf mode, the hitches are crazy bad, especially since the game is graphically nothing special.

I still don't know how you level up or do anything really, or why I'm walking around and killing monsters/soldiers, or where I need to go.

I get the FromSoft hype, but this is nowhere near a 10, IMO. The Demon's Souls remake is 10 times better looking and plays a lot better as well.

Elden Ring is bare minimum a 9.5/10 IMO. It's easily my favorite game to come out since NieR Automata in 2017. Pull up the map and the waypoints in the early game draw a path right towards the castle which is where you go to progress the story. They literally point right down the path you need to take to get there. Though you'll get your teeth kicked in by Margit if you haven't explored a bit elsewhere and strengthened your character. Also you shouldn't be fighting dragons at the beginning with a weak character, you should be running from them. And from other bosses and minibosses you're not ready for.

https://assets2.rockpapershotgun.com/elden-ring-map-bit.jpg/BROK/resize/1920x1920%3E/format/jpg/quality/80/elden-ring-map-bit.jpg

I think it's kind of weird to slam a game for graphics while propping another game that shipped with and still has a broken performance mode. I see a lot of crap densely populated on the screen in Forbidden West but it's rendered like shit in performance mode. Elden Ring is nothing special graphically and never has been sold as such, what makes the game awesome is the combat, the setting, the exploration, and all the different interesting ways you can build a character. But Forbidden West was sold as a graphical powerhouse and it does not deliver that at all in performance mode. Hope it will someday but they put too much crap on the screen if they don't have the performance budget to apply any decent antialiasing to the game in performance mode. I don't mind making the compromise of playing the PS4 Pro version of Elden Ring on PS5 to get 60 fps since I don't buy FromSoft games for their graphics, but graphics were a large part of why I bought Horizon at launch and having to put my PS5 in 1080p mode to blur things enough to kind of mitigate the shimmer sucks when I haven't had to do that with any other PS5 graphical powerhouse.

I have the opposite dilemma. How am I supposed to play Forbidden West with its more cookie cutter hand holding approach after a masterpiece like Elden Ring? Especially when it's not wowing me graphically. The graphics were a huge reason I really liked Horizon Zero Dawn despite the game being kind of Ubisofty at heart.

[Reck]

User scores are mediocre for Elden Ring.

Forbidden West got a dozen or so technical issues but it’s definitely not an ugly looking game by a long shot. Graphically a masterpiece in my opinion. The animations are high level af.

[ElNono]

Elden Ring is bare minimum a 9.5/10 IMO. It's easily my favorite game to come out since NieR Automata in 2017. Pull up the map and the waypoints in the early game draw a path right towards the castle which is where you go to progress the story. They literally point right down the path you need to take to get there. Though you'll get your teeth kicked in by Margit if you haven't explored a bit elsewhere and strengthened your character. Also you shouldn't be fighting dragons at the beginning with a weak character, you should be running from them. And from other bosses and minibosses you're not ready for.

I think it's kind of weird to slam a game for graphics while propping another game that shipped with and still has a broken performance mode. I see a lot of crap densely populated on the screen in Forbidden West but it's rendered like shit in performance mode. Elden Ring is nothing special graphically and never has been sold as such, what makes the game awesome is the combat, the setting, the exploration, and all the different interesting ways you can build a character. But Forbidden West was sold as a graphical powerhouse and it does not deliver that at all in performance mode. Hope it will someday but they put too much crap on the screen if they don't have the performance budget to apply any decent antialiasing to the game in performance mode. I don't mind making the compromise of playing the PS4 Pro version of Elden Ring on PS5 to get 60 fps since I don't buy FromSoft games for their graphics, but graphics were a large part of why I bought Horizon at launch and having to put my PS5 in 1080p mode to blur things enough to kind of mitigate the shimmer sucks when I haven't had to do that with any other PS5 graphical powerhouse.

I have the opposite dilemma. How am I supposed to play Forbidden West with its more cookie cutter hand holding approach after a masterpiece like Elden Ring? Especially when it's not wowing me graphically. The graphics were a huge reason I really liked Horizon Zero Dawn despite the game being kind of Ubisofty at heart.

I don't think it's a bad game, and I'm playing it. I'm just saying that if you publish a game with:

- mediocre/non-existent story
- graphics bordering last gen
- stuttery framerate mess
- no handholding
- no difficulty setting
- animations pretty much lifted from their previous game
- some sort of tutorial hidden somewhere (I found out there's one by reading comments)
- nothing really novel here, even the whole online messaging thing is Demon's Souls all over again.

you can only get a pass and a 10/10 because "It's FromSoft, what did you expect?". I mean, I get it, it's a game for FromSoft fans.

Again, I understand the problem you had with Horizon and I know it's not just you, I'm just speaking about my experience. Horizon is a different kind of game too, it would never have a deep combat system like these games, and I'm not making a direct comparison game to game.

I was pointing out my honest reaction from going from one open world to the other, and puzzled how this thing got a 10/10.

[baseline bum]

I don't think it's a bad game, and I'm playing it. I'm just saying that if you publish a game with:

- mediocre/non-existent story
- graphics bordering last gen
- stuttery framerate mess
- no handholding
- no difficulty setting
- animations pretty much lifted from their previous game
- some sort of tutorial hidden somewhere (I found out there's one by reading comments)
- nothing really novel here, even the whole online messaging thing is Demon's Souls all over again.

you can only get a pass and a 10/10 because "It's FromSoft, what did you expect?". I mean, I get it, it's a game for FromSoft fans.

Again, I understand the problem you had with Horizon and I know it's not just you, I'm just speaking about my experience. Horizon is a different kind of game too, it would never have a deep combat system like these games, and I'm not making a direct comparison game to game.

I was pointing out my honest reaction from going from one open world to the other, and puzzled how this thing got a 10/10.

Why does a game need difficulty settings and to hold your hand? And nothing really novel here? Might as well say God of War didn't earn its review scores because Skyrim already did Nord mythology and Soulsborne already did God of War's combat except Santa Monica added some special powers to the axe. Don't understand why a game has to appeal to everyone to be worthy of high scores too. I don't like fps so no fps is ever really a 10/10 game?

[redzero]

We talked why I don't have the visual problem you do, but what I mean is that it's a vibrant, beautiful world to look at. There's always something going on, and not a hitch.

Just really unimpressed how bare and empty Elden Ring looks, and even in perf mode, the hitches are crazy bad, especially since the game is graphically nothing special.

I still don't know how you level up or do anything really, or why I'm walking around and killing monsters/soldiers, or where I need to go.

I get the FromSoft hype, but this is nowhere near a 10, IMO. The Demon's Souls remake is 10 times better looking and plays a lot better as well.

Demon's Souls remake looks way better but is as bare as can be. It's extremely dated in every other aspect other than graphics and performance.

[ElNono]

Why does a game need difficulty settings and to hold your hand? And nothing really novel here? Might as well say God of War didn't earn its review scores because Skyrim already did Nord mythology and Soulsborne already did God of War's combat except Santa Monica added some special powers to the axe. Don't understand why a game has to appeal to everyone to be worthy of high scores too. I don't like fps so no fps is ever really a 10/10 game?

Because you can actually have the choice, but it's deliberatively omitted. You can start playing God of War in Give me God of War, if you want, but if it ships with just that mode as the only difficulty level, then I absolutely assure you it can't hit the 94 it received. Unless From Software did it, then it gets a pass for whatever reason, because apparently they built the rep that they make "hard" games.

And frankly, God of War being 4 years old and all, completely owns this game in animation, visuals, audio, story, framerate, handholding... you can have the deep combat system without abandoning everything else. GoW also has a continuous camera system that as far as video games goes, was actually pretty novel and a big part of the experience playing the game. Then again, GoW also probably had 10x the budget this thing has, but then that's sort of the point of judging excellence.

Again, this isn't a bad game, my beef is I just don't get what's the barometer here. Is it 10/10 graded on a curve? Is it from the standpoint that it's the best From game to date? If some other company did this game, they wouldn't be anywhere near 10/10, IMO, maybe 8/10, praised for the combat and they'll be getting dinged up for all the things I posted before.

My other pet peeve playing this right now is, I'm in Stormgate, and I must've killed that big Ogre that falls down about 5x already. Then I die fighting the douchebags that come right after, coz I'm bleeding pretty badly, and I have to do it all over again. It's not even hard to beat it now, but it's never a short battle and a waste of time. Sure, I can probably run around him, but I mean, why is this even a thing? Can I have an option to pause the game please, we're in 2021?

[ElNono]

Demon's Souls remake looks way better but is as bare as can be. It's extremely dated in every other aspect other than graphics and performance.

To be frank, I didn't play Demon's Souls before the remake, but at the very least they did hit a quality visual bar you sorta now expect for nextgen games.

[baseline bum]

Because you can actually have the choice, but it's deliberatively omitted. You can start playing God of War in Give me God of War, if you want, but if it ships with just that mode as the only difficulty level, then I absolutely assure you it can't hit the 94 it received. Unless From Software did it, then it gets a pass for whatever reason, because apparently they built the rep that they make "hard" games.


There is an easy mode: summon other people to make any bossfight a cake walk. I don't care to do it because the fun of the game is learning how to find openings against challenging enemies and then executing. But you can make it into a boring button masher if you want by summoning allies.



And frankly, God of War being 4 years old and all, completely owns this game in animation, visuals, audio, story, framerate, handholding... you can have the deep combat system without abandoning everything else. GoW also has a continuous camera system that as far as video games goes, was actually pretty novel and a big part of the experience playing the game. Then again, GoW also probably had 10x the budget this thing has, but then that's sort of the point of judging excellence.


And Elden Ring completely owns God of War in combat and exploration. You want them to make a Souls game that's not a Souls game.



Again, this isn't a bad game, my beef is I just don't get what's the barometer here. Is it 10/10 graded on a curve? Is it from the standpoint that it's the best From game to date? If some other company did this game, they wouldn't be anywhere near 10/10, IMO, maybe 8/10, praised for the combat and they'll be getting dinged up for all the things I posted before.


Because it has an incredible open world with tons of interesting dungeons and boss fights, it's like taking Skyrim's world and putting a top notch battle system in it along with a lot of wildly different boss fights. It's an interesting world to explore with a killer art style and tons of enemy variety. I don't care if it's not loaded with high grass and cat-tails and all other kind of foliage that makes graphics nuts like Digital Foundry get their panties wet. The exploration and combat is top notch.



My other pet peeve playing this right now is, I'm in Stormgate, and I must've killed that big Ogre that falls down about 5x already. Then I die fighting the douchebags that come right after, coz I'm bleeding pretty badly, and I have to do it all over again. It's not even hard to beat it now, but it's never a short battle and a waste of time. Sure, I can probably run around him, but I mean, why is this even a thing?


You're not supposed to keep fighting when you're bleeding, you're supposed to either get the encounter done in one or two more swings or run like hell because when your bleed meter builds up you're extremely vulnerable to even the weakest enemy attacks that take an outsized amount of health off when you're bleeding. It's one of the core mechanics of the game, it's not a screw up on their part. And you would rather have the world be empty once you kill each enemy once? If it's a waste of your time don't do the battle, just like every other open world game once you're strong enough that the experience / items gained don't justify bothering with the fight.

[baseline bum]

Looks like Dying Light 2 might be in a good enough state for me to want to buy after finishing Elden Ring. Leetonidas, Joseph Kony, does the game still stay strong throughout to the end to maintain your early enthusiasm for it?

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[ElNono]

There is an easy mode: summon other people to make any bossfight a cake walk. I don't care to do it because the fun of the game is learning how to find openings against challenging enemies and then executing. But you can make it into a boring button masher if you want by summoning allies.

I play offline. This is a single player game for me. If I'm going to let other people play the game for me, then might as well save $60 bucks and watch a walkthrough on YouTube.


And Elden Ring completely owns God of War in combat and exploration. You want them to make a Souls game that's not a Souls game.

I totally take your word for it, I haven't gotten that far. And no, I want them to make a game that if you choose it to be a Souls game, it can be that. But if you choose to enjoy the game without becoming an combat expert, I can do too. You can certainly argue that the latter is not a Souls game, but there's really no reason it can't be both.
Remember those games where you can pick "I want to enjoy the story, take it easy" or "I'm seasoned, give me hell"... that sort of thing.


Because it has an incredible open world with tons of interesting dungeons and boss fights, it's like taking Skyrim's world and putting a top notch battle system in it along with a lot of wildly different boss fights. It's an interesting world to explore with a killer art style and tons of enemy variety. I don't care if it's not loaded with high grass and cat-tails and all other kind of foliage that makes graphics nuts like Digital Foundry get their panties wet. The exploration and combat is top notch.

I'd love to explore all that without being a combat expert or having to kill the same guy over and over, but I'm not allowed to.


You're not supposed to keep fighting when you're bleeding, you're supposed to either get the encounter done in one or two more swings or run like hell because when your bleed meter builds up you're extremely vulnerable to even the weakest enemy attacks that take an outsized amount of health off when you're bleeding. It's one of the core mechanics of the game, it's not a screw up on their part. And you would rather have the world be empty once you kill each enemy once? If it's a waste of your time don't do the battle, just like every other open world game once you're strong enough that the experience / items gained don't justify bothering with the fight.

Sorry, I didn't mean bleeding as in a bleeding spell or something like that. I mean I only had maybe one health potion left. If I go to the near resting area, the enemy spawns again too. So I push forward. I'm going there because that's what the map says I need to go to advance the game.

Also, legit, I still don't know how you level up? Is it the amount of souls you collect from killing things? Does it tell you when you have enough to level up?

[redzero]

To be frank, I didn't play Demon's Souls before the remake, but at the very least they did hit a quality visual bar you sorta now expect for nextgen games.

Which is more than fair, but the gameplay is prehistoric compared to Elden Ring. I'll take a game worth playing over a game worth looking at every time, and Demon's Souls has no content worth ever going back to.

[baseline bum]

Also, legit, I still don't know how you level up? Is it the amount of souls you collect from killing things? Does it tell you when you have enough to level up?

When you rest at a point of grace (eg place where you light a fire) there is a option for leveling up.

https://asset.vg247.com/elden_ring_resting_site_of_grace.jpg/BROK/resize/1920x1920%3E/format/jpg/quality/80/elden_ring_resting_site_of_grace.jpg

[ElNono]

Which is more than fair, but the gameplay is prehistoric compared to Elden Ring. I'll take a game worth playing over a game worth looking at every time, and Demon's Souls has no content worth ever going back to.

They feel pretty much the same to me, but I haven't played that long yet. I will give this to Elden Ring though: unlike Sekiro, I feel I actually gotten better.

[baseline bum]

To be frank, I didn't play Demon's Souls before the remake, but at the very least they did hit a quality visual bar you sorta now expect for nextgen games.

I mean Demon's Souls looks amazing, but I think it's the weakest of From Software's modern games because it doesn't have the same quality of boss fights the rest of the series does. Dragon God, Tower Knight, and Storm King look really impressive for example, but the fights themselves are way too easy, while the later games really have bosses that test you. I do love the level design of Demon's Souls though, it's absolutely top notch from the Boletarian Palace at the beginning to the jail to that fucking poisonous lake that's such a bitch to get through.

[baseline bum]

LOL so GTA V for PS5 is ten days away and they still haven't said how much it's going to cost or what's different vs the other two versions they already made. What a shitshow that's going to be. It'll just be unlocking 1440p60 and 4k30 with maybe some raytraced puddle reflections when it rains.

[Joseph Kony]

Looks like Dying Light 2 might be in a good enough state for me to want to buy after finishing Elden Ring. Leetonidas (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1376), Joseph Kony (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31867), does the game still stay strong throughout to the end to maintain your early enthusiasm for it?

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I think so, but i havent been going balls to the wall with as i've had little free time lately. but it's been an enjoyable playthrough for me. Not as good as the first, but what sequels ever are. Still a really solid and fun game imo. the storyline gets a little wonky toward the end though (i have 3 main quest missions left). but overall i have really enjoyed the game.

one thing i will say thats kind of annoying is late in the game after one of the main quests, a large haze/fog over a portion of the city appears and its pretty thick and difficult to see throgh

[Joseph Kony]

I also have no doubt Elden Ring is a great game but i have to laugh at all the 10/10 ratings its getting when i pretty much agree with Nono's post above (in general). I'm going to play it after this and i no doubt will enjoy it but i already know it's not going to present anything new or fresh and will just be another Dark Souls game with an open world which really isnt a formula for a perfect score game imo.

[Reck]

I was pointing out my honest reaction from going from one open world to the other, and puzzled how this thing got a 10/10.

The cult of gaming.

Shouldn't a 10/10 game appeal to everyone, not just a niche group? Maybe I have the criteria and the definition wrong but it seems to me the scores are just there to incentivise people to buy it blindly.

[baseline bum]

The cult of gaming.

Shouldn't a 10/10 game appeal to everyone, not just a niche group? Maybe I have the criteria and the definition wrong but it seems to me the scores are just there to incentivise people to buy it blindly.

So then there is no such thing as a 10/10 game?

[ElNono]

So last night, before completely giving up on this game, I went to YouTube to try to figure out what the fuck I'm doing wrong, coz I still could not get the Level Up option while resting, and outside the Dragon, I killed almost every mofo in that level.

Turns out that when the skank on the fire pit showed up, I told her to go fuck herself, coz I thought from what she said that she was going to become a companion or something. If you do that, you don't get the Level Up option, and you also don't get the fucking horse.

This game, man...

[ElNono]

I mean Demon's Souls looks amazing, but I think it's the weakest of From Software's modern games because it doesn't have the same quality of boss fights the rest of the series does. Dragon God, Tower Knight, and Storm King look really impressive for example, but the fights themselves are way too easy, while the later games really have bosses that test you. I do love the level design of Demon's Souls though, it's absolutely top notch from the Boletarian Palace at the beginning to the jail to that fucking poisonous lake that's such a bitch to get through.

They were really challenging to me, but at least doable instead of completely frustrating. And I still peeked at YouTube a couple times towards the end because I honestly didn't want to spend 5 hours figuring out a boss and I wanted to get to the end already. But outside an area or two where difficulty ratcheted up some, it was an enjoyable game, and very easy on the eyes.

[baseline bum]

They were really challenging to me, but at least doable instead of completely frustrating. And I still peeked at YouTube a couple times towards the end because I honestly didn't want to spend 5 hours figuring out a boss and I wanted to get to the end already. But outside an area or two where difficulty ratcheted up some, it was an enjoyable game, and very easy on the eyes.

Only bossfight I remember being tough was the gargoyles in the stage with all the bridges, and only then because it was so easy to get knocked off that bridge. But I think doing tank builds is probably pretty tough in the series because it makes your dodge roll so slow it's worthless. Tank build makes going through the stages a lot easier but boss fights have always seemed rough to me in heavy builds. I always prefer much lighter and more agile builds.

[baseline bum]

I also have no doubt Elden Ring is a great game but i have to laugh at all the 10/10 ratings its getting when i pretty much agree with Nono's post above (in general). I'm going to play it after this and i no doubt will enjoy it but i already know it's not going to present anything new or fresh and will just be another Dark Souls game with an open world which really isnt a formula for a perfect score game imo.

Try it out man. It reminds me so much of Skyrim with how much there is to discover and how many awesome dungeons there are. But unlike Skyrim, of course it has first rate combat being a FromSoft game. Doesn't have Skyrim's ridiculous soundtrack and the story is as bare bones as can be, but I can't fucking put the controller down once I get started in this. Feels like the game will have same kind of replay value as Skyrim too given how differently you can play the game. Right now I'm playing a dexterity build using a sword with bleed and a monster special attack with no shield, but seeing all the crazy magic you can do in this game makes me want to do another intelligence based build later on like how I went through Skyrim first as the default all around nord character, second playthrough a khajit sneak thief / assassin, third playthrough a mage, etc. I won't say 10/10 since I'm still early in the game and it really takes something to make a game 10/10 in my book, but it's at least a 9.5/10 for me. To get it to 10/10 in my book I would need to see at least one boss fight as good as Orphan of Kos in Bloodborne though most likely. And they might be saving that for a DLC. :pctoss

I haven't played Dark Souls 3 yet so I can't tell you how different the Elden Ring battle system is from it. Pretty different from Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne though. Although there is a rune you can equip to bring back the Bloodborne rally system where you get health back for counterattacking after being hit.

[baseline bum]

So last night, before completely giving up on this game, I went to YouTube to try to figure out what the fuck I'm doing wrong, coz I still could not get the Level Up option while resting, and outside the Dragon, I killed almost every mofo in that level.

Turns out that when the skank on the fire pit showed up, I told her to go fuck herself, coz I thought from what she said that she was going to become a companion or something. If you do that, you don't get the Level Up option, and you also don't get the fucking horse.

This game, man...

Have you tried going and resting at the same point of grace to see if she comes back? That's pretty fucking bad if not.

[baseline bum]

I think so, but i havent been going balls to the wall with as i've had little free time lately. but it's been an enjoyable playthrough for me. Not as good as the first, but what sequels ever are. Still a really solid and fun game imo. the storyline gets a little wonky toward the end though (i have 3 main quest missions left). but overall i have really enjoyed the game.

one thing i will say thats kind of annoying is late in the game after one of the main quests, a large haze/fog over a portion of the city appears and its pretty thick and difficult to see throgh

You think it's a full price buy, or a wait for a sale buy? I was definitely in the wait for a sale camp before, but Horizon Forbidden West is so fucking broken in performance mode right now that shit is getting backlogged until they fix their rendered, will probably take months. Fucking waste buying that game full price if you have a 4k panel you play in game mode with all the postprocess shit turned off. So definitely an opening for another large game for me. Will prob be either DL2 or SMT V.

[ElNono]

Have you tried going and resting at the same point of grace to see if she comes back? That's pretty fucking bad if not.

You can actually summon her from any resting place after you said no, I just didn't know. Sorry, gonna vent again, but how you do not get a "You won't be able to level up and shit, ARE YOU SURE?" at that point??? That's not even handholding, it has huge implications in the gameplay.

[baseline bum]

You can actually summon her from any resting place, I just didn't know. Sorry, gonna vent again, but how you do not get a "You won't be able to level up and shit, ARE YOU SURE?" at that point??? That's not even handholding, it has huge implications in the gameplay.

From likes to be bastards trolling new players at the beginning I guess. :lol

Bloodborne was even worse, you had to get your insight level to at least +1 by either finding a point of insight (there is one hidden in the rafters of a building near the beginning) or by finding and seeing a boss for the doll that lets you level up to come to life.

[Xevious]

Try it out man. It reminds me so much of Skyrim with how much there is to discover and how many awesome dungeons there are. But unlike Skyrim, of course it has first rate combat being a FromSoft game. Doesn't have Skyrim's ridiculous soundtrack and the story is as bare bones as can be, but I can't fucking put the controller down once I get started in this. Feels like the game will have same kind of replay value as Skyrim too given how differently you can play the game. Right now I'm playing a dexterity build using a sword with bleed and a monster special attack with no shield, but seeing all the crazy magic you can do in this game makes me want to do another intelligence based build later on like how I went through Skyrim first as the default all around nord character, second playthrough a khajit sneak thief / assassin, third playthrough a mage, etc. I won't say 10/10 since I'm still early in the game and it really takes something to make a game 10/10 in my book, but it's at least a 9.5/10 for me. To get it to 10/10 in my book I would need to see at least one boss fight as good as Orphan of Kos in Bloodborne though most likely. And they might be saving that for a DLC. :pctoss

I haven't played Dark Souls 3 yet so I can't tell you how different the Elden Ring battle system is from it. Pretty different from Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne though. Although there is a rune you can equip to bring back the Bloodborne rally system where you get health back for counterattacking after being hit.
It's been a while since I played it, but was there really a point in starting different builds in Skyrim (unless you just wanted to play the game over again)? IIRC, my character was mainly an archer/thief, but by the end I was pretty adept at magic as well as tanking shit. I completed all the main guild quests with the same character. The game let you level up whatever you used.

[Reck]

Horizon Forbidden West is a cheap platinum. They more than halfed requirements from the first one. As a result, I already obtained it.

[baseline bum]

Horizon Forbidden West is a cheap platinum. They more than halfed requirements from the first one. As a result, I already obtained it.

Damn, Zero Dawn was already an easy plat if you did the sidequests, other than a couple of time trials that were pains in the ass.

[Reck]

Damn, Zero Dawn was already an easy plat if you did the sidequests, other than a couple of time trials that were pains in the ass.

Yeah in this one you don’t need to do all side quests. Not even close.

All you need to do are few single threaded side quests for your companions which are directly tied to trophies anyways.

The hunting trials are hilariously easy this time as you don’t need to get all stripes in every trial. Bronzes will do. I think they’ll patch that at some point because they give you minutes to do something it takes you 20-30 seconds to do for gold.

Same goes for collectibles. You only need 1 collectible per category.


EDIT: Looking at my overall stats, I’m sitting at 63% completed with just 20 side quests done and at least 3 of those were none trophy related. :lol

[ElNono]

Elden Ring picked up after I was able to level up. I would still much rather have a quest/goal system, tbh, than left wandering around to figure everything out, tbh.

IMO, this is still a 8/10 tops unless you're grading on a curve.

[baseline bum]

Elden Ring picked up after I was able to level up. I would still much rather have a quest/goal system, tbh, than left wandering around to figure everything out, tbh.

IMO, this is still a 8/10 tops unless you're grading on a curve.

LOL casuals

[ElNono]

LOL casuals

Sorry, we largely outnumber the stans, tbh

[baseline bum]

Sorry, we largely outnumber the stans, tbh

Don't fret, you guys have the new Kirby game coming on the 25th.

[ElNono]

Don't fret, you guys have the new Kirby game coming on the 25th.

Can't wait, tbh... at least this game is playable, unlike Sekiro which was stans-only, tbh

[baseline bum]

Can't wait, tbh... at least this game is playable, unlike Sekiro which was stans-only, tbh

Maybe come back to Elden Ring next year tho since you won't have a COD in 2023.

[ElNono]

Maybe come back to Elden Ring next year tho since you won't have a COD in 2023.

COD lasts me about 4 hours, tbh... whatever the single player campaign lasts... it's a damn shame too, they do the campaign missions really well.

But what I'm really waiting on is the new online Assassin's Creed, with all the microtransactions. Can't wait to pay $70 and then blow another $700 in a golden spear and new socks for my character, tbh...

[baseline bum]

LMAO I was wondering where the hell this dragon was that you were talking about ElNono. I thought you just rode too deep into the map, didn't realize he was right there in the middle of the pond at the beginning of the game. Don't know how I never saw him 60 hours into this game. Yeah that's a pretty hard fight if you're not used to using the horse. Just found him after taking down three other dragons. :lol

[ElNono]

LMAO I was wondering where the hell this dragon was that you were talking about ElNono. I thought you just rode too deep into the map, didn't realize he was right there in the middle of the pond at the beginning of the game. Don't know how I never saw him 60 hours into this game. Yeah that's a pretty hard fight if you're not used to using the horse. Just found him after taking down three other dragons. :lol

Yeah, that niglet showed up while I was walking there at level 1. I also didn't know which button was to run, so I got smoked right away. I'm like WTF? Is this game all like this?

[baseline bum]

Yeah, that niglet showed up while I was walking there at level 1. I also didn't know which button was to run, so I got smoked right away. I'm like WTF? Is this game all like this?

Even someone godly at Souls games probably isn't beating that dragon without the horse. His fire fills up so much of the area around him the horse is the only escape.

[DJR210]

You're wandering around too, no clue what you need to do, etc.

I felt the same way when I started.. I was bitching about the lack of the indicator that tells you which enemies are way above your level so it makes it hard to know which direction to go.. Not sure if it applies anymore, But once you leave the church and get the first Site of Grace, just head north along the road. You just gotta get the first three so you can unlock leveling up

.. and fuck the dragon I couldn't even beat the damn crabs in the same pond.. Unlocking the horse and spirit summoning breaks the game wide open though

[baseline bum]

JFC Gran Turismo 7 has multiple cars which each cost $40 of real cash to unlock. Fuck that game.

[140]

JFC Gran Turismo 7 has multiple cars which each cost $40 of real cash to unlock. Fuck that game.

Not sure exactly what youre talking about but I doubt thats the only way you can get them. Sure it might take a good deal of time and effort to get enough in game credits to buy them but GT has always been about the grind.

I've been consuming a shit ton of GT7 content the last few days and I gotta admit im fucking jealous of poorstation owners right now :lol this is an amazing racing game tbh

[Reck]

JFC Gran Turismo 7 has multiple cars which each cost $40 of real cash to unlock. Fuck that game.

Microtransactions is for the lazy gamers who want OP weapons/cars in this instance to finish the game earlier.

I'm more concerned about this game needing a connection 24/7.

I'm glad I caught on that before buying. I was mostly interesting in doing the endurance races. Not much of a 3 lap race guy. Apparently GT7 is by far the less grindier game of the franchise going by the trophy list.

[baseline bum]

Fucking Starscourge Redahn, had him within one strike of death twice and choked each time.

[baseline bum]

Ugh this boss is bordering on Orphan of Kos difficulty. Never would have figured that maybe halfway into the game.

[Leetonidas]

Not that anyone plays it here but The Witch Queen expansion for Destiny 2 is surprisingly solid, probably the best DLC they've had since the first game

[spurraider21]

Yeah, that niglet showed up while I was walking there at level 1. I also didn't know which button was to run, so I got smoked right away. I'm like WTF? Is this game all like this?
souls games are incredibly punishing at early points in the game. the first one i ever played was Bloodborne, and it took me quite a while until i even reached the first boss. just kept dying to random enemy mobs in the first town, over and over. and until you even reach the first boss, you aren't able to level up.

even when i played Dark Souls: Remastered after that, i was dying all the time in the opening areas. played multiple hours before even encountering the first bosses.

i dno, for me something kinda just clicks about the combat after a while, in addition to leveling up some. some people say the easy mode in these games is to build a range/magic build. for me the easy mode is to just build a tank with high vitality/hp and strength, stamina.

sekiro was its own beast, but i think the combat in that game was way more fun.

[baseline bum]

souls games are incredibly punishing at early points in the game. the first one i ever played was Bloodborne, and it took me quite a while until i even reached the first boss. just kept dying to random enemy mobs in the first town, over and over. and until you even reach the first boss, you aren't able to level up.

even when i played Dark Souls: Remastered after that, i was dying all the time in the opening areas. played multiple hours before even encountering the first bosses.

i dno, for me something kinda just clicks about the combat after a while, in addition to leveling up some. some people say the easy mode in these games is to build a range/magic build. for me the easy mode is to just build a tank with high vitality/hp and strength, stamina.

sekiro was its own beast, but i think the combat in that game was way more fun.

Tank seems like hard mode to me since you get such shitty rolls. Or are you just powering the fuck out of strength so even heavy ass gear shows up as a medium load? I always prefer dex builds in Souls games, probably because Bloodborne got me used to playing as an agile character since all armor was pretty much just cosmetic in that game. Also with how good Elden Ring is man, you're going to be waiting forever for a sale just like Sekiro which seemed to stay at $40+ for years.

[spurraider21]

Tank seems like hard mode to me since you get such shitty rolls. Or are you just powering the fuck out of strength so even heavy ass gear shows up as a medium load? I always prefer dex builds in Souls games, probably because Bloodborne got me used to playing as an agile character since all armor was pretty much just cosmetic in that game. Also with how good Elden Ring is man, you're going to be waiting forever for a sale just like Sekiro which seemed to stay at $40+ for years.
yeah going from bloodborne to being a tank in DS was a bit jarring i guess. but even in bloodborne i liked the heavier weapons. started with the Hunter's axe over the much more popular saw cleaver, and basically used that through my playthrough. if i played again id probably use that bigass ludwig blade.

in DS i think i leaned toward tank because i wanted to use the Black Knight Sword which i got in a pretty early drop, and that required a decent amount of strength early on. used different weapons later, but that kinda incentivized me to push for a heavier build

sekiro was so nice because you didnt worry about builds or weapons (prosthetics i guess... but way less emphasis on that than souls games). just combat and attack upgrades. its why i think it has the most replay value. they even had a mini DLC thing where you could do boss runs, and there were stronger versions of some of the good boss fights. really think sekiro is tops for me from FromSoft so far

[baseline bum]

yeah going from bloodborne to being a tank in DS was a bit jarring i guess. but even in bloodborne i liked the heavier weapons. started with the Hunter's axe over the much more popular saw cleaver, and basically used that through my playthrough. if i played again id probably use that bigass ludwig blade.

in DS i think i leaned toward tank because i wanted to use the Black Knight Sword which i got in a pretty early drop, and that required a decent amount of strength early on. used different weapons later, but that kinda incentivized me to push for a heavier build

sekiro was so nice because you didnt worry about builds or weapons (prosthetics i guess... but way less emphasis on that than souls games). just combat and attack upgrades. its why i think it has the most replay value. they even had a mini DLC thing where you could do boss runs, and there were stronger versions of some of the good boss fights. really think sekiro is tops for me from FromSoft so far

LOL that's how I am in Elden Ring. The samurai class starting weapon, the uchigatana, is fucking amazing in bossfights because of its special attack "unsheathe" that fills the enemy's stance meter pretty quickly. Plus the weapon does bleed damage on any strike. I just keep upgrading it, only thing I changed about it was re-applying the ash to give it unsheathe since it makes the weapon scale with dexterity at B-level. Only have had one boss so far that a dex build sucks for, these two bastard gargoyles that have huge health bars, poison the arena, are super agile, close distance fast, and you don't have access to the horse that would make this fight way more manageable.

[spurraider21]

LOL that's how I am in Elden Ring. The samurai class starting weapon, the uchigatana, is fucking amazing in bossfights because of its special attack "unsheathe" that fills the enemy's stance meter pretty quickly. Plus the weapon does bleed damage on any strike. I just keep upgrading it, only thing I changed about it was re-applying the ash to give it unsheathe since it makes the weapon scale with dexterity at B-level. Only have had one boss so far that a dex build sucks for, these two bastard gargoyles that have huge health bars, poison the arena, are super agile, close distance fast, and you don't have access to the horse that would make this fight way more manageable.
Dark Souls flashbacks

[baseline bum]

Dark Souls flashbacks

Those both have low hp and don't close distance nearly as quickly. Those two are easy.

[spurraider21]

Those both have low hp and don't close distance nearly as quickly. Those two are easy.
As a first boss they were terrifying. Not counting the tutorial fat asylum monster

[baseline bum]

Surprised GTA V is $10 on PS5. Not that I ever want to play that game again given how many hours I put into it in 2013-15.

[RandomGuy]

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[RandomGuy]

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[baseline bum]

LOL another trash ass Sony State of Play. Ghostwire Tokyo and Trek to Yomi look interesting, but we have already seen a ton of gameplay from both. Nothing new looked at all worth getting hyped over. They really need to stop doing these when there is nothing big to show.

[baseline bum]

Did an underground area littered with high level ghost gloveworts that let me up my mimic ash from +4 to a max +10, which made the double gargoyle fight that was a nightmare with my +4 mimic pretty easy with my +10 mimic.

[DMC]

Did an underground area littered with high level ghost gloveworts that let me up my mimic ash from +4 to a max +10, which made the double gargoyle fight that was a nightmare with my +4 mimic pretty easy with my +10 mimic.

Somewhere some Russian code breaker is losing sleep over your statement.

[baseline bum]

Somewhere some Russian code breaker is losing sleep over your statement.

Should get Elden Ring man, best game to come out in years. Especially with the rig you have.

[baseline bum]

LOL the boss you have to fight in the middle of a lake of scarlet rot and you only have one tiny island you can stay on and hope you don't get knocked off of.

[DJR210]

LOL the boss you have to fight in the middle of a lake of scarlet rot and you only have one tiny island you can stay on and hope you don't get knocked off of.

Which one is that? The lady rowing the boat?

Did you keep the samurai build or scrap it?

[redzero]

Does anybody else have problems with phantom inputs or is it just in my mind? Sometimes, I feel like I block or roll and the game just doesn't register my inputs. I want to have one of those apps that show my button presses just so I know that I am not crazy. Sometimes, I get hit due to bad timing, but other times, I don't know...

[baseline bum]

Which one is that? The lady rowing the boat?

Did you keep the samurai build or scrap it?

Nah not her, scarlet rot is like being poisoned except your health drains 3-5 times as fast, like you're literally losing 500 points of health in 10 or 15 seconds, and the cure is enough of a pain in the ass to get that you only want to use one cure per run at the boss. It's an optional boss in what I presume is the late game because I have gotten a ton of the highest end ash power ups inside there for example.

The samurai build kills, especially if you start leveling dex and then apply the unsheathe ash to the uchigatana to make it scale at a B level with dex. I know the uchigatana already has unsheathe as its special skill, but applying the unsheathe ash takes you from str=d and dex=d to str=e and dex=b while keeping unsheathe.

[baseline bum]

Does anybody else have problems with phantom inputs or is it just in my mind? Sometimes, I feel like I block or roll and the game just doesn't register my inputs. I want to have one of those apps that show my button presses just so I know that I am not crazy. Sometimes, I get hit due to bad timing, but other times, I don't know...

Control seems pretty spot on for me, though I'm playing the scrub PS4 version on PS5.

[baseline bum]

100 hours into Elden Ring I have to concur with the majority of reviewers that it's a 10/10 game, first game I have felt was a 10/10 since NieR Automata in 2017. Game is just loaded with so many awesome boss fights and the level design is absolute top notch. I love how From designs so many highly vertical levels that reward you for detailed exploration. Also love that they kept the posture from Sekiro as being such a critical part of battle, though the posture bar is hidden.

[baseline bum]

I beat the fire giant.

Have you been able to take down the Bell Bearing Hunter in Caelid? Hardest enemy I have fought so far in the game. The other three Bell Bearing Hunter fights aren't too bad but that one is a bastard. Fucks me up so much with his double or triple sword throw when I'm trying to retreat to heal.

[baseline bum]

I don't have the gravity stone fan or chunk available for purchase but I'll try to beat this guy later tonight.

Turns out he's not so hard to stagger so I overestimated the difficulty. Ran right through him earlier.

[baseline bum]

Reck plays Elden Ring:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSyRf8rAjTs

[Reck]

Reck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) plays Elden Ring:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSyRf8rAjTs

Wouldn't that more accurately portray you who play such games? I wouldn’t touch these games for free. They’re shit with nothing to offer me personally.

difficulty has nothing to do with playing it either. Game is just barren in my opinion. Sorry I hurt your feelings last week.

Still not a 10/10 game. :lol

[baseline bum]

Wouldn't that more accurately portray you who play such games? I wouldn’t touch these games for free. They’re shit with nothing to offer me personally.

difficulty has nothing to do with playing it either. Game is just barren in my opinion. Sorry I hurt your feelings last week.

Still not a 10/10 game. :lol

LOL barren because the map isn't loaded with icons like a crap AC game

[ElNono]

Still playing Elder Ring here. I figured out a way to cheese a lot of enemies using Poison Mist, including the horseman blocking access to the capital, which also made it easier for me to level up.

Probably won't finish this, but at the moment I have nothing else to play, tbh...

[Reck]

Guerilla released the third patch for Horizon and they still haven't fix BB's problem. :lol

[Leetonidas]

Not that anyone plays it here but The Witch Queen expansion for Destiny 2 is surprisingly solid, probably the best DLC they've had since the first game

again, not that anyone cares :lol but still playing this, been surprisingly good enough to keep my attention away from DL2 and HFW for now. but it is annoyingly difficult playing solo since it was meant to be played with 2-3 other players. biggest gripe is how the game artificially makes encounters more diffciult by forcing the player to knock out various crystals that are guarded by shielded enemies to take out the shield of the main enemy which you cant do until you take out the other stuff first as the big bad is trying to kill you. what a pain.

multiplayer is fun though. Halo Infinite sadly turned out to be a massive disappointment in that regard. CoD is fun but too vanilla. this is decent for now

[baseline bum]

Guerilla released the third patch for Horizon and they still haven't fix BB's problem. :lol

At this point I'm expecting to get Ragnarok before I get the patch to fix the broken renderer in performance mode. I'd be pissed if Gamestop hadn't bought the game for me. :lol

[baseline bum]

Still playing Elder Ring here. I figured out a way to cheese a lot of enemies using Poison Mist, including the horseman blocking access to the capital, which also made it easier for me to level up.

Probably won't finish this, but at the moment I have nothing else to play, tbh...

If you want a really good cheese see if you can get rotten breath, which infects enemies with scarlet rot, which is way more aggressive than poison. It's a way to cheese Starscourge Radahn, one of the biggest pain in the ass bosses in the game.

[DJR210]

Wouldn't that more accurately portray you who play such games? I wouldn’t touch these games for free. They’re shit with nothing to offer me personally.

difficulty has nothing to do with playing it either. Game is just barren in my opinion. Sorry I hurt your feelings last week.

Still not a 10/10 game. :lol

The game is not barren at all.. It just doesn't guide you along with objective icons. You have to study the map and explore it, there's a ton of great loot out there

[ElNono]

If you want a really good cheese see if you can get rotten breath, which infects enemies with scarlet rot, which is way more aggressive than poison. It's a way to cheese Starscourge Radahn, one of the biggest pain in the ass bosses in the game.


Rotten breathe 3 times. Run away completely real far and he can't leave his area. He will reposition and you can keep getting clean hits. His lighting attack can one shot you on horse so it will take a couple tries but you will get it.

Thanks, I'll give it a try. I need to upgrade Arcane a bit.

What I liked about Poison Mist is that the enemies have no idea they got hit by it. Basically, you just sneak behind them, and just stay there hitting them with Poison Mist, they don't react and have no clue they're getting poisoned. It does take a while to kill them, but basically, it's completely stress free.

[Xevious]

The game is not barren at all.. It just doesn't guide you along with objective icons. You have to study the map and explore it, there's a ton of great loot out there
Not to put words in Reck's mouth, because he may mean something different... but forcing you to explore and find stuff on your own without the aid of waypoints, and having a strong narrative don't have to be mutually exclusive.

[Reck]

That Harry Porter game looks like trash. Animation looks so stiff and dialogue and story seems boring.

[spurraider21]

At this point I'm expecting to get Ragnarok before I get the patch to fix the broken renderer in performance mode. I'd be pissed if Gamestop hadn't bought the game for me. :lolhttps://external-preview.redd.it/WvE8cc2Zrq9gpRkA3DJvclNUDbD2i__8B0DCUoPoans.jpg?au to=webp&e4493e7a
https://i.imgflip.com/1egve9.jpg
https://external-preview.redd.it/WvE8cc2Zrq9gpRkA3DJvclNUDbD2i__8B0DCUoPoans.jpg?au to=webp&e4493e7a

[Reck]

baseline bum How's Scartlet Nexus? Thinking about getting it since I'm all out of fresh games since it's going for a nice little deal right now. Valkyria also but I'm less inclined for that one.

[baseline bum]

baseline bum How's Scartlet Nexus? Thinking about getting it since I'm all out of fresh games since it's going for a nice little deal right now. Valkyria also but I'm less inclined for that one.

IDK. Looks good and seems to get good reviews, but I haven't played it. Only thing I'm really tempted to pick up in the current sale is Monster Hunter World Iceborn Master Edition.

[baseline bum]

The Malenia fight in Elden Ring is fucking bullshit. She heals with every blow landed and has a ridiculous undodgeable multihit slash attack that one shots me even though I'm at the soft cap for vigor if I'm anywhere near her when she starts winding it up. This boss is cheap as fuck.

[baseline bum]

ElNono man, Elden Ring has a cheese you'll surely appreciate if you stick on 1.03, as no way this doesn't get nerfed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCpEbaQSLuk

[Reck]

ElNono (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) man, Elden Ring has a cheese you'll surely appreciate if you stick on 1.03, as no way this doesn't get nerfed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCpEbaQSLuk

Playing unpatched or older patch games on consoles is nearly impossible these days. Most games force you to install whatever update for it to even run offline.

[baseline bum]

If anyone wants an XBox Series X they're in stock at MSRP right now at Walmart, no bundles, no need for Walmart+. And they have been for more than three hours. ElNono, you still trying to get one of these?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Xbox-Series-X-Video-Game-Console-Black/443574645

[ElNono]

If anyone wants an XBox Series X they're in stock at MSRP right now at Walmart, no bundles, no need for Walmart+. And they have been for more than three hours. ElNono, you still trying to get one of these?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Xbox-Series-X-Video-Game-Console-Black/443574645

Thanks brah, just ordered one!

[Reck]

Wow 2 hours later and they’re still in stock according to the site which still lets you add it to the cart.

[DMC]

You couldn't give me an XBox

[Reck]

You couldn't give me an XBox

Word. :lol lolbox

[DMC]

Word. :lol lolbox

Countdown to YT videos showing how to fix it :lol

[ElNono]

It's for "work", tbh... I'm actually expensing this shit

[baseline bum]

It's for "work", tbh... I'm actually expensing this shit

How about expensing me one as a finder's fee?

[baseline bum]

Still in stock almost 12 hours later :lol

[ElNono]

How about expensing me one as a finder's fee?

:lol

I'll try to get you a voucher. Did you ever get Returnal?


Still in stock almost 12 hours later :lol

:lol we bought another one for "company use" (the one I've got is for "work-from-home" use)

[baseline bum]

:lol

I'll try to get you a voucher. Did you ever get Returnal?



:lol we bought another one for "company use" (the one I've got is for "work-from-home" use)

Nah haven't played Returnal yet. It's one of the few big PS5 games I don't have. Have gone fucking nuts on buying games ever since I got the PS5. :lol

[ElNono]

Nah haven't played Returnal yet. It's one of the few big PS5 games I don't have. Have gone fucking nuts on buying games ever since I got the PS5. :lol

Let me see what I can do.

[chunticakes]

I finally beat Margit with my character, a level 13 wretch.

Only took me like six hours. :lol

[baseline bum]

I finally beat Margit with my character, a level 13 wretch.

Only took me like six hours. :lol

Margit at level 13? JFC

[baseline bum]

Let me see what I can do.

Nice

[Reck]

Nice

Have fun not getting pass the first Biome. :lol

[chunticakes]

Margit at level 13? JFC

What's an appropriate level to fight him at? I literally memorized all of his moves and two handed my sword the entire fight. I summoned the wolves and the wizard too. What I need to do is go back and fight that damn deer, the ancestor spirit.

[baseline bum]

What's an appropriate level to fight him at? I literally memorized all of his moves and two handed my sword the entire fight. I summoned the wolves and the wizard too. What I need to do is go back and fight that damn deer, the ancestor spirit.

Probably 25 to 30. Level 13 would be just racing right to Margit.

[baseline bum]

Just starting my second playthrough of Elden Ring, first NG I have done since Persona 5 Royal two years ago.

[Reck]

Just starting my second playthrough of Elden Ring, first NG I have done since Persona 5 Royal two years ago.

I’ve been looking more into this game. Just learned there are no leveling cap in this game and you can spend time leveling up and then fighting a boss. If you can do that indefinitely then it makes the game a cake walk. I was expecting this game to be a 10/10 in terms of platinum difficulty.

Most places rate it around 6-7.

Do the enemies level up according to your own?