***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[raybies]

I put stars so you know it's official... and could use some less clutter with all the Kawhi threads floating around.

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Drive that value up baby :hungry::hungry:

[K...]

You make a stink about news, but then post a rumor? GTFO,

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

He's gonna leave in the summer. /thread

[K...]

He's gonna leave in the summer. /thread

He can't though, under contract, and he already fucking left already

[raybies]

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[raybies]

You make a stink about news, but then post a rumor? GTFO,
it's 2018 tbh

[raybies]

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[RD2191]

You make a stink about news, but then post a rumor? GTFO,

Tbh :lol

[spursistan]

Not sure if there is any confirmed news other than him been trying to wipe his own ass for months and yet still can't without YGHWI/Duncan2k help.

Still the official report as my nig hater (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609) called it first..

[Play Boban]

The thing about this pos is that there is no news to report. It’s all silence from his cancerous “group”.

[K...]

I see actual kawhi news being posted irritate this thread ..... Fuck

[DaBears]

I counter your thread with this... By CouchMac87

https://youtu.be/ViAb4vQzzZ8


Cris “Connected” Carter says Kawhi wants to play with the King...

Stephen Jackson believes Kawhi will be a Spur and wants to see them in SA

Not in this video but Brian Windhorst says what happens to LeBron is connected to Kawhi...doesn’t mention SA but Philly, LA..

[raybies]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViAb4vQzzZ8&feature=youtu.be

[BackHome]

Man this reminds me fishing for sharks in Panama- man miss living there at Quarry Heights. But so many trade rumors almost every team beside Golden Showers are talking about getting Kawhi (Blood is in the water and the sharks are hungry). Had my long time Flaker friends start calling me giving me shit they getting Kawhi I asked if they were cool loosin Ingram, Hart, and Kuzma.

ps sharks were all catch and release

[raybies]

Man this reminds me fishing for sharks in Panama- man miss living there at Quarry Heights. But so many trade rumors almost every team beside Golden Showers are talking about getting Kawhi. Had my long time Flaker friends start calling me giving me shit they getting Kawhi I asked if they were cool loosin Ingram, Hart, and Kuzma.
and Zubac

[eDizzle20]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViAb4vQzzZ8&feature=youtu.be
This is great! Kawhi’s trade value just went up. Getting Kawhi means you could get LeBron this offseason.

[tbdog]

A comprehensive rundown on Leonard. Tldr, we overeacted

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8d0sx6/the_kawhi_leonard_saga_a_mild_summary_of_the/

[vander]

It's better to keep making new threads, and abandon them once duncan2k5 and YGWHI show up

[testies]

There is no overreaction on the autistic. He has tendinitis. Its just pain.

We have a legit chance of winning a championship with him. We knock out this diet Warriors and its the easiest post season since 1999.

He's picking money over us winning a ring. God knows when will another lucky injury situation like this be set in the table and we have another shot, it might be more than a decade.

The damage Kawhi may cause the franchise from his decision is only comparable to the destruction Porker caused in the past 8 years.

[ace3g]

Found this post on Reddit:


Just to follow up with this, in case you want more information:The injury Kawhi has is one of the trickiest injuries to treat in sports medicine. Kawhi has degenerative tendinopathy of the quadriceps tendon (also known as quadriceps tendinosis) - a chronic condition that leads to gradual weakening of the tendon.


In this case, the tendon in question is the quadriceps tendon that connects the quadriceps muscle to the kneecap. Even if the pain from the tendinosis is being managed, the main problem associated with this tendinopathy is the tendon being compromised. Continued use of the tendon makes you highly susceptible to partial or complete tendon ruptures - injuries that can significantly shorten an NBA career.


Degenerative tendinopathy can sometimes be initially misdiagnosed as reactive tendinopathy (also known as tendinitis), but misdiagnosis of this type of injury is relatively uncommon. The big problem is that the symptoms can vary day to day - one day you can feel good and have minimal pain during therapy while the next day everything is tight and there is an acute risk of tendon rupture.


If you mismanage degenerative tendinopathy in an NBA athlete, especially quadriceps tendinosis, you can have very bad things happen. An example of this is Blake Griffin. The quad injury that kept Blake sidelined the majority of the 2015-2016 season and playoffs was degenerative tendinopathy of the quadriceps that was mismanaged and led to a partial rupture of the quadriceps tendon. Even with rehabbing this injury, Blake has lost some of his explosiveness and is still at very high risk to re-injure that tendon.


In Kawhi's case, I assume (read: speculate) that two things are happening:
1. He has more severe tendinosis than initially thought, making the rehab process less 3-6 months and more 9-12 months.
2. The setbacks he have had are directly related to attempting to rush back too quickly with inappropriate rehab (even if he is feeling good), leading to further tendinosis and extending the timeline.

I am assuming he is at the point where his personal doctors have told him to not risk the long-term effects associated with compromising the tendon. Progress is tough to measure in these cases so that may be why things are being kept under wraps and why doctors may disagree with his health (healthy to play versus fully healed). Furthermore, if he is undergoing specialty treatment and rehab for severe degenerative tendinopathy in NY, it is likely he will be recommended to continue that regimen without interruption. It may seem suspicious that he is not on the bench while other injured players are, but I have to stress that this is not a normal injury. It requires constant attention - especially for a professional athlete.




I know this is really long, but I hope this helps shed a little more light on his situation. I don't think you can fault Kawhi and his group for being cautious, nor can you fault the Spurs and Spurs fans from being upset at not having a clear indication of what is going on.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8cnbqn/the_kawhi_situation_for_dummies/dxgtboj/?context=1

[tbdog]

Well the 8 games he played weren't mvp level, even on those short minutes. He obviously was not right. We assumed it was rust. They saying it was the injury.

[NASpurs]

Degenerative... super max... oh boy.

[ace3g]

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[Chinook]

I'm starting to think the Spurs believe Kawhi has a chronic injury, and it's Leonard himself who thinks he's healthier than he is. That seems like bizarro-world shit, but think about it: The Spurs scout Kawhi and know he has a persistent quad issue, but they draft him anyway because they think they can manage it. It flares up a couple of times, but for the most part, it's fine for the first six years. Then this summer it comes back and doesn't go away. The team eventually (rather quickly) concludes that this is just Leonard's life now. He's going to have to deal with pain and may not have the same athletic ceiling. But with enough precautions, he can still have a career, maybe even a HoF-level career from here on out. So coming to the conclusion that he'll never be the same again, they "clear" him to come back as the player they feel he is just going to be from now on.

Leonard, on the verge of a supermax, gets this prognosis and freaks out. He thinks he's just hurt, and if he can just get enough time to heal and rehab, he'll be fine. But time goes on, it doesn't get better. He tries to play through it but hates how he looks on the court. Facing real NBA mortality a decade too soon, he bolts town and tries to find someone who can get him back to who he used to be. Multiple specialists tell him that the Spurs weren't wrong, but eventually some or one of them comes up with a plan. So Leonard has been trying to do that, but as time goes on and nothing works (or as Danny put it, Kawhi has "setbacks"), his attitude becomes more and more toxic and withdrawn. It certainly doesn't he could feel/have been led to feel that this whole diagnosis is a ploy to get Kawhi on the cheap (since a permanently hobbled Leonard is not a supermax guy).

So in this case, a lot of Pop's words feel different. A lot of the sickness and disgust he's shown comes from witnessing his star player spiral. The "player-only" meeting was so tense because Kawhi returning as is is pretty much admitting to himself that the team is right about his future, which he won't accept. Tony saying his injury was "100 times worse", is an attempt at consolation and hope, not a diss. The team wanting to move on with their season was an attempt to give Kawhi space and end would likely be grueling and ineffective rehab attempts. Danny's remarks are him truthfully reporting as much as he can without getting into the nature of Kawhi's injury (if he even knows). Even this makes a different level of sense in this scenario:


@JabariJYoungFollow Follow @JabariJYoung
Kawhi is not Tim Duncan. He’s the same Kawhi Leonard from Day 1. He’s not the #Spurs best friend. He comes to work, wants to be great, and goes home with his family and friends. That’s it. No beef, no matter what Spurs may think. Kawhi is the same Day 1 dude. End of story

[hater]

:lmao jabri old is a fucking retard duncan was the epitome of going to work to be great and going home to his family

That a stupid post

[Chinook]

Found this post on Reddit:



https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8cnbqn/the_kawhi_situation_for_dummies/dxgtboj/?context=1

A Mavs fan at the bottom of that post said it perfectly. If this was what was going on, the Spurs wouldn't be acting like Kawhi being out makes no sense. They aren't assholes to their players. In the very least, they'd understand WHAT Kawhi is doing in NY and that it would take long enough to rule him out for the season. If this post is correct, he wouldn't be doing this "will he or won't he" crap. The doctor would tell him that it takes 6-9 months to heal, and that's that. This uncertainty might be coming from Kawhi being desperate to get back on the court, but after having to supposedly find a doctor to even say he was still injured, it wouldn't make sense for him to try to go around this recovery projections.

[Chinook]

:lmao jabri old is a fucking retard duncan was the epitome of going to work to be great and going home to his family

That a stupid post

It was a stupid tweet that seemed odd at the time. Initially (since you are acting like it's new), it was interpreted as Kawhi being "new NBA" in his concerns, and that he wasn't going to do the whole "Pop is my dad" thing and let the team control his career. My post considers that it could have meant that Kawhi wasn't going to accept the team's diagnosis of his long-term role, including potentially playing the rest of his career with some apparatus on his quad like how Tim played with at least one brace for most of his career. Kawhi "being the same from Day 1" could mean he was always "self-centered", or it could also mean "he's not crippled".

[coachmac87]

I'm starting to think the Spurs believe Kawhi has a chronic injury, and it's Leonard himself who thinks he's healthier than he is. That seems like bizarro-world shit, but think about it: The Spurs scout Kawhi and know he has a persistent quad issue, but they draft him anyway because they think they can manage it. It flares up a couple of times, but for the most part, it's fine for the first six years. Then this summer it comes back and doesn't go away. The team eventually (rather quickly) concludes that this is just Leonard's life now. He's going to have to deal with pain and may not have the same athletic ceiling. But with enough precautions, he can still have a career, maybe even a HoF-level career from here on out. So coming to the conclusion that he'll never be the same again, they "clear" him to come back as the player they feel he is just going to be from now on.

Leonard, on the verge of a supermax, gets this prognosis and freaks out. He thinks he's just hurt, and if he can just get enough time to heal and rehab, he'll be fine. But time goes on, it doesn't get better. He tries to play through it but hates how he looks on the court. Facing real NBA mortality a decade too soon, he bolts town and tries to find someone who can get him back to who he used to be. Multiple specialists tell him that the Spurs weren't wrong, but eventually some or one of them comes up with a plan. So Leonard has been trying to do that, but as time goes on and nothing works (or as Danny put it, Kawhi has "setbacks"), his attitude becomes more and more toxic and withdrawn. It certainly doesn't he could feel/have been led to feel that this whole diagnosis is a ploy to get Kawhi on the cheap (since a permanently hobbled Leonard is not a supermax guy).

So in this case, a lot of Pop's words feel different. A lot of the sickness and disgust he's shown comes from witnessing his star player spiral. The "player-only" meeting was so tense because Kawhi returning as is is pretty much admitting to himself that the team is right about his future, which he won't accept. Tony saying his injury was "100 times worse", is an attempt at consolation and hope, not a diss. The team wanting to move on with their season was an attempt to give Kawhi space and end would likely be grueling and ineffective rehab attempts. Danny's remarks are him truthfully reporting as much as he can without getting into the nature of Kawhi's injury (if he even knows). Even this makes a different level of sense in this scenario:

Damn...


But what’s the end game with all this?

[SAGirl]

It's better to keep making new threads, and abandon them once duncan2k5 and YGWHI show up
:lmao

[SAGirl]

A comprehensive rundown on Leonard. Tldr, we overeacted

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8d0sx6/the_kawhi_leonard_saga_a_mild_summary_of_the/
thanks for sharing that... nice summary. crazy to think someone spent all that time doing all that research and compiling it together with quotes.
It's better than many so called reporter articles.

[SAGirl]

I'm starting to think the Spurs believe Kawhi has a chronic injury, and it's Leonard himself who thinks he's healthier than he is. That seems like bizarro-world shit, but think about it: The Spurs scout Kawhi and know he has a persistent quad issue, but they draft him anyway because they think they can manage it. It flares up a couple of times, but for the most part, it's fine for the first six years. Then this summer it comes back and doesn't go away. The team eventually (rather quickly) concludes that this is just Leonard's life now. He's going to have to deal with pain and may not have the same athletic ceiling. But with enough precautions, he can still have a career, maybe even a HoF-level career from here on out. So coming to the conclusion that he'll never be the same again, they "clear" him to come back as the player they feel he is just going to be from now on.

Leonard, on the verge of a supermax, gets this prognosis and freaks out. He thinks he's just hurt, and if he can just get enough time to heal and rehab, he'll be fine. But time goes on, it doesn't get better. He tries to play through it but hates how he looks on the court. Facing real NBA mortality a decade too soon, he bolts town and tries to find someone who can get him back to who he used to be. Multiple specialists tell him that the Spurs weren't wrong, but eventually some or one of them comes up with a plan. So Leonard has been trying to do that, but as time goes on and nothing works (or as Danny put it, Kawhi has "setbacks"), his attitude becomes more and more toxic and withdrawn. It certainly doesn't he could feel/have been led to feel that this whole diagnosis is a ploy to get Kawhi on the cheap (since a permanently hobbled Leonard is not a supermax guy).

So in this case, a lot of Pop's words feel different. A lot of the sickness and disgust he's shown comes from witnessing his star player spiral. The "player-only" meeting was so tense because Kawhi returning as is is pretty much admitting to himself that the team is right about his future, which he won't accept. Tony saying his injury was "100 times worse", is an attempt at consolation and hope, not a diss. The team wanting to move on with their season was an attempt to give Kawhi space and end would likely be grueling and ineffective rehab attempts. Danny's remarks are him truthfully reporting as much as he can without getting into the nature of Kawhi's injury (if he even knows). Even this makes a different level of sense in this scenario:
Very plausible explanation. The prospect of losing even some of his greatness (even if he can still be a good player, he won't be his best possible self) can be the cause of anxiety and depression. These last two, coupled with a personality that was already hermetic, can make him even more withdrawn. Tony never struck me as trolling Kawhi (I know the media and some fans, plus the Tony-hater trolls) ended up spinning it for all it's worth, but immediately after saying his injury was worse, Tony also said that he has to stay positive and that in his case it took 8 months, meaning it was a long time rehabbing it still... not something you can accomplish in a third of the season.

As a side reference, Tony came back, but is not the same guy. He already was in decline for a couple of years but he is not the same he was a year ago. However, Tony has had his full career, his accolades and was already on the downswing. Kawhi was coming up, and his best years were possibly still ahead of him. What Kawhi could lose is not comparable to what Tony lost. But I didn't interpret Tony's statement as ill intentioned. However, from Kawhi's POV, you can see how it could be acidic. And many comments from teammates, however well intentioned might have been in that meeting, could have been ill perceived and ill received. I have to say, if you have ever been in a bad personal place and moment, then you will understand that many things that others say with the best intentions trying to help you end up being irritating or infuriating, until you are ready to accept the truth that you don't want to deal with.

The fact the injury is not getting better after such a long time, or rather, that it has gotten better and then worse, that he has said he's ready to play to then backpedaled, and that he has had setbacks, means something really strange about his injury as you speculate. It may indeed signal a new state of being for him, that is difficult to even cope with. You know the stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. He might be in between denial, anger and bargaining. Only after he has fully exhausted everything privately that he can and done everything possible that he can, and he is still not better will he reach some state of depression and then finally acceptance.

I would rather he be back 100%, but bad things happen in life. As I have said, the ramifications of the injury are some of the issues least talked about anywhere. And for obvious reasons the medical details are closely guarded, but it changes the perspective on the whole situation.

[Phenomanul]

A comprehensive rundown on Leonard. Tldr, we overeacted

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8d0sx6/the_kawhi_leonard_saga_a_mild_summary_of_the/

Great summary...

TBH there is way too much overreaction in Spurs Kingdom... losing will do that. :(

[SAGirl]

Damn...


But what’s the end game with all this?
For Kawhi or the Spurs?
For Kawhi, he's still trying to get healthy... He may never be the same player as he was before the injury got to this state. There can be irreversible damage but he's trying to get back to 100% and failing that, determining what is going to be the new normal.

[coachmac87]

For Kawhi or the Spurs?
For Kawhi, he's still trying to get healthy... He may never be the same player as he was before the injury got to this state. There can be irreversible damage but he's trying to get back to 100% and failing that, determining what is going to be the new normal.

Both. I do believe out of all the theories this one is the most accurate..it makes sense regarding eveguthing..

But at the end of the day that contract extension still looms..and that’s what I asked Chinook..it’s gonns come down to that contract if he’s a Spur or not.

If Spurs think he’s somewhat damaged goods do they offer it? But the other option isn’t appealing either cause if he’s damaged goods will trade value be worth it??

But this perspective makes the most sense on the beef, misdiagnosis, not being around..Kawhi has a timetable to get right...that’s his focus

But the media loves controversy cause controversy sells

[Chinook]

Damn...


But what’s the end game with all this?

My guess is one of two things: Either Kawhi accepts his new normal and continues his career with the Spurs (for maybe less than the DPE), or the Spurs trade Kawhi. If the latter happens, it could go in a number of different directions, but that's not really our concern now. Essentially either he buys into the Spurs' idea for the rest of his career, or he doesn't.

[SuperCam]

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[Brazil]

:lol I have no doubt Kawhi is injured, if he could play he would BUT this does not excuse to cut all relations with Spurs, press and fans... how much would it cost to him to do a podcast of 30 mn to explain in details what it is happening, why he can't be with the team and how he respects the Spurs and his teammates ? There is 0 excuse for that.


Letting rumors inflate is just being an ass to the team

[NASpurs]

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So many conspiracy theories. This shit is exhausting. Can't wait until he's traded or resigned... whichever side the coin flips.

(I'm leaning towards being resigned.)

[SAGirl]

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no... anyone would rather he be an autistic disgruntled antisocial but still an MVP caliber player that was balling huge this year, than some schmuck with a sore leg that can't wipe his ass yet.
This is the media being dumb and refusing to see things that are right in front of them.

But underneath the surface argument, I don't know if anyone saw it... is that the Spurs are getting lowballed to hell offers for Kawhi... that part I definitely caught

[Ice009]

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Wouldn't his value be higher if they pushed the theory/idea that he's disgruntled?

[SuperCam]

more PATFO semen shielding and faggy fake-intellectual takes from PoundingTheCock:

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/4/18/17246904/kawhi-leonard-bartleby-scrivener-san-antonio-spurs-ambiguity

[Clipper Nation]

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That's idiotic. A disgruntled player can still play. A seriously injured player is a lot riskier.

[SAGirl]

From back in 1/18/2018 after he was announced to be out indefinitely. The guy posted from a radio host he heard about, there was some discussion in the thread about it and he was confirmed to be a sports radio show host. I never quite forgot what he said about this injury and since then have truly believed the injury is at the root of all the problems. It didn't sound good then and 3 months later it still doesn't.


Sorry if anything like this has already been posted but I haven't been able to read the board in a few days and have just a few minutes to post before I have to pretend to work...

Dallas radio host, who is a big spurs fan, just said he spoke to a source he has with in the spurs. This is what he was told about the kawhi injury

- There is serious angst amongst the spurs and kawhi over the injury. Kawhi feels the spurs mishandled the injury last year and is now using his own doctors for treatment

- Because he's not using team doctors the spurs have been silent about him bc they don't have much information themselves and are kinda in the dark

- The reports they have are not good. They are saying it's severe tendinitis and are using words like diseased and degenerative

- There is real fear that kawhi will never be able to play 82 games again and that he will likely deal with this for the rest of his career.

- Finally, he said he was told to expect kawhi to be out at least 4 to 5 weeks this go around.

So yeah. That's the info he dropped. Hes not a random dude and I fully trust he has sources that are in the know on this stuff. If it's all true 5uts super depressing

[Keepin' it real]

My guess is one of two things: Either Kawhi accepts his new normal and continues his career with the Spurs (for maybe less than the DPE), or the Spurs trade Kawhi. If the latter happens, it could go in a number of different directions, but that's not really our concern now. Essentially either he buys into the Spurs' idea for the rest of his career, or he doesn't.

He wouldn't pass a physical, so the trade would be canceled.

[San Antonio Slayer]

BUT this does not excuse to cut all relations with Spurs, press and fans...
what about Isiah Thomas' relations with LA fans and Hayward's with press? Did Gordon visit a home game with the bucks?

[Chinook]

He wouldn't pass a physical, so the trade would be canceled.

a) Yes he would and b) Even if he wouldn't, so long as SA is upfront about what will fail him, the receiving team will overlook that part.

[rjv]

no... anyone would rather he be an autistic disgruntled antisocial but still an MVP caliber player that was balling huge this year, than some schmuck with a sore leg that can't wipe his ass yet.
This is the media being dumb and refusing to see things that are right in front of them.

But underneath the surface argument, I don't know if anyone saw it... is that the Spurs are getting lowballed to hell offers for Kawhi... that part I definitely caught

that's not what i got from reading that statement at all.

[rjv]

He wouldn't pass a physical, so the trade would be canceled.

the celtics were not totally upfront about thomas with cleveland but the cavs knew there were risks and pulled the trigger anyway. the disgruntled aspect give leverage to the spurs, imho, because it creates a narrative that it's not the injury that kept leonard from playing but the attitude instead. this would make some GMs make the trade because leonard would pass the physical. now, what leonard would answer when asked "are you going to be ready at the start of next season?" is a wholly different matter.

[BackHome]

Lots of teams are going to jump on a trade for Kawhi if there team doctors clear him

[Brazil]

what about Isiah Thomas' relations with LA fans and Hayward's with press? Did Gordon visit a home game with the bucks?

wtf ? now Thomas, LA, Bucks and Hayward are the new stantard ? smh

[coachmac87]

more PATFO semen shielding and faggy fake-intellectual takes from PoundingTheCock:

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/4/18/17246904/kawhi-leonard-bartleby-scrivener-san-antonio-spurs-ambiguity

Cam Newton is a bitch....

Stop pretending you know so much

[spurraider21]

That's idiotic. A disgruntled player can still play. A seriously injured player is a lot riskier.
A disgruntled player also gives the team less leverage since everybody knows they have to dump him.

[Keepin' it real]

a) Yes he would and b) Even if he wouldn't, so long as SA is upfront about what will fail him, the receiving team will overlook that part.


the celtics were not totally upfront about thomas with cleveland but the cavs knew there were risks and pulled the trigger anyway.

That's good to know. Send him packin'.

[rjv]

A disgruntled player also gives the team less leverage since everybody knows they have to dump him.

not necessarily. the spurs can just call off all trades and have leonard play out the year which would then mean some teams would miss out on their chance for the summer that all other teams could just bid for his services-including the spurs if things played out well.

[SAGirl]

that's not what i got from reading that statement at all.
It’s the opposite and it makes no sense.

[duncan2k5]

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This makes no sense! LMFAO! His value would be higher if teams thought he didn't want to play with SA anymore than if they thought he had a chronic injury that kept him sidelined for most of the year... These ppl and their "sources"... I swear they be talking to the mop boy sometimes

[SAGirl]

Bump. I had forgotten about this thread.

[Play Boban]

We need a Kawhi sub forum tbh. I mean Kawhitter.

[r0drig0lac]

This makes no sense! LMFAO! His value would be higher if teams thought he didn't want to play with SA anymore than if they thought he had a chronic injury that kept him sidelined for most of the year... These ppl and their "sources"... I swear they be talking to the mop boy sometimes

agree

[SuperCam]

Maglinka having their LA media people go in on Kiwi:

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[TheRemix]

Bleacher Report and it's constant use of emojis...just stop

[NASpurs]

I find it interesting the Sixers are 2nd.

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[tbdog]

Woj just reported that the relationship is broken and Spurs won't offer super max until it's solved.

https://streamable.com/6y9zr

[raybies]

Isola thinks they should offer Porzingis for Kawhi... Would wonder what else would be included with that package.

[Robz4000]

I'd do Porzingod and Ntilikina (and whatever additional salary is needed) for Kawhi and Mills.

[TD 21]

I'd do Porzingod and Ntilikina (and whatever additional salary is needed) for Kawhi and Mills.

Porzingis doesn't have a body built to hold up for long and Ntilikina is similar to Murray, without a markedly higher upside.

Also, the Knicks only two selling points to retain Leonard, would be to pair him with Porzingis and the city itself.

[Robz4000]

Porzingis doesn't have a body built to hold up for long and Ntilikina is similar to Murray, without a markedly higher upside.

Also, the Knicks only two selling points to retain Leonard, would be to pair him with Porzingis and the city itself.

Better than taking the Lakers' trash and you could always flip Ntilikina for something else.

If the money is that important to Kawhi he can definitely get it through sponsorships and the like in the nation's biggest media market and biggest basketball city in the world. Knicks would do it if Porzingod will in fact be out all of next season and they'll have a top pick to play alongside Kawhi; could also see it being a draw for Lebron who could prolly get his boy Fizzdale in as HC.

[BackHome]

Woj just reported that the relationship is broken and Spurs won't offer super max until it's solved.

https://streamable.com/6y9zr

That is Pop saying Kawhi I ain’t talking to your people if you can not talk face to face then move on son.

[tholdren]

Woj just reported that the relationship is broken and Spurs won't offer super max until it's solved.

https://streamable.com/6y9zr

Hell yes. Best news ever

[Hoops Czar]

Woj just reported that the relationship is broken and Spurs won't offer super max until it's solved.

https://streamable.com/6y9zr

Woj isn't a Spurs insider. Most, if not all of that is common sense and doesn't require an ESPN sound bite.

[tholdren]

Woj isn't a Spurs insider. Most, if not all of that is common sense and doesn't require an ESPN sound bite.

Lol spurs insider. Dumb

[spurs10]

Woj isn't a Spurs insider. Most, if not all of that is common sense and doesn't require an ESPN sound bite. Yes as if anyone is paying someone that kind of money until all the t's are crossed. Of course and it will be solved.

[NASpurs]

:lol

https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Local-brewery-offers-Kawhi-Leonard-free-pizza-and-12866756.php

Local brewery offers Kawhi Leonard free pizza and beer for life if he rejoins Spurs

[ECOV]

:lol

https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Local-brewery-offers-Kawhi-Leonard-free-pizza-and-12866756.php

Local brewery offers Kawhi Leonard free pizza and beer for life if he rejoins Spurs

Should of said wings too, pretty sure he would be all aboard

[TD 21]

Better than taking the Lakers' trash and you could always flip Ntilikina for something else.

If the money is that important to Kawhi he can definitely get it through sponsorships and the like in the nation's biggest media market and biggest basketball city in the world. Knicks would do it if Porzingod will in fact be out all of next season and they'll have a top pick to play alongside Kawhi; could also see it being a draw for Lebron who could prolly get his boy Fizzdale in as HC.

I'm not so sure about that (Porzingis, though overrated, definitely has a higher upside than Ingram, but as I said, I don't think he's built to last), but even if it were the case, that's irrelevant. The 76ers and Celtics clearly have the best assets and check the most boxes.

[Robz4000]

I'm not so sure about that (Porzingis, though overrated, definitely has a higher upside than Ingram, but as I said, I don't think he's built to last), but even if it were the case, that's irrelevant. The 76ers and Celtics clearly have the best assets and check the most boxes.

Not denying that. Was just saying if the Knicks came calling I'd take that package (plus maybe a future pick since Porzingod has a busted knee atm).

[Budkin]

Woj just reported that the relationship is broken and Spurs won't offer super max until it's solved.

https://streamable.com/6y9zr

Woj is not reliable since he went to ESPN. His shit stinks.

[TD 21]

Not denying that. Was just saying if the Knicks came calling I'd take that package (plus maybe a future pick since Porzingod has a busted knee atm).

That doesn't make sense. If you agree that the 76ers and Celtics have the best assets (and are likely to be interested), then why would you take an inferior package?

[Chawaman]

Some people were saying that Kawhis camp is holding out since they initially wanted to talk about the extension earlier in the year. While Kawhi not playing yet, Spurs were wanting to wait until the end of the year. To prevent an injury to Kawhi and risk losing the Max deal, Kawhis camp might consider going elsewhere and making money through endorsements since it seems he probably wont get the max deal. Just a thought.

[cd98]

Woj isn't reporting facts, he's reporting his opinion. But he's probably right in his opinion.

[Robz4000]

That doesn't make sense. If you agree that the 76ers and Celtics have the best assets (and are likely to be interested), then why would you take an inferior package?

Since they prolly wouldn't offer those assets in the first place. Ainge is too full of himself and Philly just might not see the need to offer a superior package.

[Darius Bieber]

Kawhi spotted in Manhattan wearing Spurs shorts and socks:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBujjzhh1vQ

[apalisoc_9]

He is with his uncle.

[Spurs9]

Kawhi spotted in Manhattan wearing Spurs shorts and socks:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBujjzhh1vQ

Was just about to post this :lol

[SAGirl]

Kawhi spotted in Manhattan wearing Spurs shorts and socks:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBujjzhh1vQ
Wasn’t that uncle Dennis next to him?

[Darius Bieber]

Wasn’t that uncle Dennis next to him?

Yep

[SAGirl]

Yep
The identity of the group becomes clear!! :lol

I am just hoping he’s going to be fine... I truly have my doubts.

There’s definitely a rift but he’s had bad knees b4 in his career and I doubt, considering the workaholic Kiwi is, that he’s sat out the season out of leisure.

[Darius Bieber]

The identity of the group becomes clear!! :lol

I am just hoping he’s going to be fine... I truly have my doubts.

There’s definitely a rift but he’s had bad knees b4 in his career and I doubt, considering the workaholic Kiwi is, that he’s sat out the season out of leisure.

People were saying he's been wearing work-out clothes, so apparently he's been rehabbing and working out.

[SAGirl]

People were saying he's been wearing work-out clothes, so apparently he's been rehabbing and working out.
Hoping for the best at this point. Thanks for sharing :flag:

[spursistan]

Forum faggots who kept denying that his uncle is in total control of his quad and soul..Dude is literally getting his hand held by Dennis right there..:lol

[RD2191]

Someone needs to knock uncle the fuck out tbh. Where's Tonya Harding when you need her?

[Play Boban]

Uncle is the alpha. Kawhi is the beta, or maybe even lower.

[Proxy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=MBujjzhh1vQ

that his uncle? He's in his spurs shorts at least haha

[daslicer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=MBujjzhh1vQ

that his uncle? He's in his spurs shorts at least haha

Yes that is his uncle. Here is a picture of how how he looks http://video.mysanantonio.com/Dennis-Robertson-Favorite-Kawhi-Leonard-Story-26905558

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=MBujjzhh1vQ

that his uncle? He's in his spurs shorts at least haha

19 million don't buy what it used to.

[james evans]

He is with his uncle.
oh shit, let's set him on fire. He's hanging out with his uncle. You guys are a bunch of fucking losers. lol. You don't own him or any other player. Shit, the way fans have been talking about him, I wouldn't want to play for these redneck racist ass fans anymore either

[apalisoc_9]

oh shit, let's set him on fire. He's hanging out with his uncle. You guys are a bunch of fucking losers. lol. You don't own him or any other player. Shit, the way fans have been talking about him, I wouldn't want to play for these redneck racist ass fans anymore either

Bro cmon. I love kawhi :lol

[Gino20]

The rumor is now he is in San Antonio according to Jason Minnix’s Twitter. I have no idea how to post tweets or if he is a credible source. He mentioned funeral services as a possibility.

[Gino20]

The rumor is now he is in San Antonio according to Jason Minnix’s Twitter. I have no idea how to post tweets or if he is a credible source. He mentioned funeral services as a possibility.
That’s what he heard anyway.

[SAGirl]

The rumor is now he is in San Antonio according to Jason Minnix’s Twitter. I have no idea how to post tweets or if he is a credible source. He mentioned funeral services as a possibility.
990000540737302529

P.S. this is how you post it..
[_tweet]990000540737302529[_/tweet]
use the brackets minus the space_ obviously

[jehawk81]

Kawhi spotted in Manhattan wearing Spurs shorts and socks:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBujjzhh1vQ

Oh wow, I'm not saying nor denying Kawhi is mentally challenged or anything like that, but this video just reeks of pervy uncle/nephew sub/dom relationship

[daslicer]

Oh wow, I'm not saying nor denying Kawhi is mentally challenged or anything like that, but this video just reeks of pervy uncle/nephew sub/dom relationship

Here is a clip from last summer with him and his uncle.
sZqZjkOXChk

[daslicer]

oh shit, let's set him on fire. He's hanging out with his uncle. You guys are a bunch of fucking losers. lol. You don't own him or any other player. Shit, the way fans have been talking about him, I wouldn't want to play for these redneck racist ass fans anymore either

Your right we don't own Kawhi his uncle does. :lol Also gtfo here with your awoke bs. You can always support another team if you are tired of the spurs fan base.

[jehawk81]

Here is a clip from last summer with him and his uncle.
sZqZjkOXChk

I keep getting the "This plugin is not supported" :rolleyes

[daslicer]

I keep getting the "This plugin is not supported" :rolleyes

Try this clip
aofQpuquCMo

[eDizzle20]

I’m sure Kawhi’s uncle has been a huge part of his life, like a father figure to Kawhi since his father was murdered. That has to be unimaginable difficult at such a young age. Can’t blame him for relying on him. Can’t wait for all these shit rumors to stop from the media.

[jehawk81]

Try this clip
aofQpuquCMo

Got it.. hmmmm :rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

[wingster]

Oh wow, I'm not saying nor denying Kawhi is mentally challenged or anything like that, but this video just reeks of pervy uncle/nephew sub/dom relationship
A 7 second video from afar tells you that? Ok.

[jehawk81]

A 7 second video from afar tells you that? Ok.

I'm probably wrong, but if it ends up being true, it wouldn't surprise me. Some crazy/sad shit goes on in this world. All u have to do is read ur local newspaper & you'll see it's everywhere. Anyways, I don't think that's the case here, but hearing about the whole Spurs & Uncle Dennis situation & the control & influence he seems to have on Kawhi's dealings, it definitely wouldn't be a shock

[Slippy]

Haha i could imagine uncle Dennis shittting himself if he had to face pop at the exit interview. He dare not show up with kawhi.

[james evans]

Your right we don't own Kawhi his uncle does. :lol Also gtfo here with your awoke bs. You can always support another team if you are tired of the spurs fan base.
i like the spurs, I don't give a fuck about their racist ass, trump/bush supporting fan base. The type of white folks on this site are representatives of that state. Calling Westbrook a chimp and shit. I don't support that, but I expect nothing else..

[james evans]

Haha i could imagine uncle Dennis shittting himself if he had to face pop at the exit interview. He dare not show up with kawhi.
why would he be afraid? Pop's not a tough guy He pulls that bs in the media with players that allow it. How many times have you ever seen him yell at David West? And he screw up all all season he played with us.

[Slippy]

Wasn't being serious. You think uncle will make the meeting? Didnt think that would be normal but this is kawhi. Would love to be a fly on the wall & have a listen in however.

[tholdren]

I’m sure Kawhi’s uncle has been a huge part of his life, like a father figure to Kawhi since his father was murdered. That has to be unimaginable difficult at such a young age. Can’t blame him for relying on him. Can’t wait for all these shit rumors to stop from the media.

Oh wah

[weeks]

why would he be afraid? Pop's not a tough guy He pulls that bs in the media with players that allow it. How many times have you ever seen him yell at David West? And he screw up all all season he played with us.
:lol what is with you kawhi stans and being retarded?
jax called pop one of the toughest people he ever knew and has enormous respect for him

[james evans]

:lol what is with you kawhi stans and being retarded?
jax called pop one of the toughest people he ever knew and has enormous respect for him
not a kawhi stan. Been a spurs fan since before this guy picked up a basketball. I just know bullshit when I see it. My college teams are Georgetown and ECU(been that way since the early 80s) and I swear ECU has one of the highest transfer rates out of al the D1 schools lol. We'll get guys that are talented, and every season, the coach puts him on the end of the bench and he doesn't play and then he transfers to another school and does good things. I'm tired of it. Every coach does the same shit. Popopich be on that bullshit. He's been on that bullshit for a long time and he is not a guy we shouldn't be able to criticize. Whose fault was it in 2013? 2016? Throwing game during the season to look cute that fucks us over in the playoff seeding. You're not tried of that shit? I was actually against trading Hill for Leonard on draft night, but I like what he became. - I been waning Parker gone before Leonard even decided he was going to the NBA, so no, not a "Kawhi stan". Most of us been criticizing things this team have done before we even got Leonard.

[tholdren]

A 7 second video from afar tells you that? Ok.

Previous experiences as an uncle tbh

[SPURt]

I wonder what dumb stuff Kawhi would buy if his uncle wasn’t around? I can already see the news story: “Star Spur buys 20 acre bouncy house with working plumbing and kitchen outside of LA. Is this a sign Kawhi is leaving?”

One month later: “10 die at ex-Spur’s home when pet tiger introduced to 20 acre bouncy house”

[BillMc]

Oh wow, I'm not saying nor denying Kawhi is mentally challenged or anything like that, but this video just reeks of pervy uncle/nephew sub/dom relationship

Are you saying Uncle Dennis keeps Kawhi locked up in a gimp suit in some NY basement for his S and M pleasue?

At least it would explain why KL doesn't come to Spurs games anymore. :lol

[BSfromTX]

i like the spurs, I don't give a fuck about their racist ass, trump/bush supporting fan base. The type of white folks on this site are representatives of that state. Calling Westbrook a chimp and shit. I don't support that, but I expect nothing else..

People are stupid. Stupid people are a part of every fan base AND every ethnicity. Basing your judgement on the way people behave in this forum is not a good idea. This place is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to perspective or humility. Your making a pretty big statement. I agree there is a ton of poor posters on this site, but I feel like it not representative of most spurs fans

[ECOV]

People are stupid. Stupid people are a part of every fan base AND every ethnicity. Basing your judgement on the way people behave in this forum is not a good idea. This place is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to perspective or humility. Your making a pretty big statement. I agree there is a ton of poor posters on this site, but I feel like it not representative of most spurs fansyou explain everything perfectly!

[SPURt]

In depth ESPN article:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23366667

[bklynspursfan]

In depth ESPN article:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23366667

I was gonna post this here, but figured someone else would make a thread about it , so I ended up doing that lol.

[ace3g]

991523840827179008

[tholdren]

Come out of closet

[Leetonidas]

"advisor" :lol

[BatManu20]

“Advisor”

[FvckMavs]

WTF is the advisor?

[polandprzem]

Kawhi sets new trends. He have advisor now to speak for him

[Slippy]

Advisor gotta be his uncle. He taking alot heat so changing lingo to advisor.

[BackHome]

He just came back to pack his things for the move

[FvckMavs]

It is sad that a 26-year-old turned into a puppet of his blood-sucking-parasite uncle.

[daslicer]

At this point I don't care if the Spurs trade him for a bag of lays potato chips. I just want the drama to end.

[raybies]

At this point I don't care if the Spurs trade him for a bag of lays potato chips. I just want the drama to end.
I personally would take a Boston package of two out of the Tatum, Rozier, and Brown three and throw in Morris or Smart. I don't think they'd budge on a Lotto pick but I'd take a late pick. All three of Tatum, Brown, and Rozier have All Start potential. Ainge's drafting doesn't get enough attention. The dude has drafted really well man. But I def believe that Stevens deserves a lot of credit for building them up and plugging in a system. I don't think they are system players but systems help with development of players cause it successfully creates roles that allows players to fill in and grow out of and then move into bigger roles. Don't understand why every team don't have a system at this point.

[daslicer]

I personally would take a Boston package of two out of the Tatum, Rozier, and Brown three and throw in Morris or Smart. I don't think they'd budge on a Lotto pick but I'd take a late pick. All three of Tatum, Brown, and Rozier have All Start potential. Ainge's drafting doesn't get enough attention. The dude has drafted really well man. But I def believe that Stevens deserves a lot of credit for building them up and plugging in a system. I don't think they are system players but systems help with development of players cause it successfully creates roles that allows players to fill in and grow out of and then move into bigger roles. Don't understand why every team don't have a system at this point.

I agree Ainge has done a great job of drafting. Also Stevens like you said is also great at player development. I would be fine getting 2 out of the 3 players you mentioned.

[NASpurs]

IGNORE OLD ARTICLE

Fucking reddit got me thinking it was something new. :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

991523840827179008

This sounds like terrible news unless Kawhi wants to talk with Pop only and wants to give him time to grieve

[Seventyniner]

I personally would take a Boston package of two out of the Tatum, Rozier, and Brown three and throw in Morris or Smart. I don't think they'd budge on a Lotto pick but I'd take a late pick. All three of Tatum, Brown, and Rozier have All Start potential. Ainge's drafting doesn't get enough attention. The dude has drafted really well man. But I def believe that Stevens deserves a lot of credit for building them up and plugging in a system. I don't think they are system players but systems help with development of players cause it successfully creates roles that allows players to fill in and grow out of and then move into bigger roles. Don't understand why every team don't have a system at this point.

I wouldn't lump Rozier in with Tatum and Brown. The latter two are far better options going forward. To me Rozier is more of a Jason Terry type, I doubt he ever makes an All-Star team unless he ends up as the #1 option on a bad team averaging 22 PPG. He shoots 41% from two for crying out loud.

And I can't give Ainge too much credit for drafting. It's easy to look good when you have so many really high picks.

[bklynspursfan]

993550616688562177

[Robz4000]

Guess he isn't staying for the funeral. Looking like he really is done with the Spurs.

[bklynspursfan]

Guess he isn't staying for the funeral. Looking like he really is done with the Spurs.

Assuming that pic is legit, her service is on the 18th so he's got time. Even if he wasn't staying and wants out, (which I personally don't believe) I think he would still show up.

[boutons_deux]

Assuming that pic is legit

a false assumption, looks like a white guy

[Dancelot]

993550616688562177
Kawhi reading spurstalk as we speak. shit, we’re busted!

[SpursforSix]

WTF is the advisor?

Bend over, I'll fucking show you The Advisor.

[spurraider21]

the CLAW is gonna wear the infinity gauntlet and defeat thanos

you heard it here first

[Kuestmaster]

From Murray instagram:
https://i.imgur.com/zdTE9ie_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
https://i.imgur.com/fLAFRQQ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Joseph Kony]

From Murray instagram:
https://i.imgur.com/zdTE9ie_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
https://i.imgur.com/fLAFRQQ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

:wow

he'll probably delete it and people will say he's talking about something else but it's pretty clear he's taking a shot at Kiwi

[Robz4000]

From Murray instagram:
https://i.imgur.com/zdTE9ie_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
https://i.imgur.com/fLAFRQQ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Kawhi is 100% gone.

[TheDoctor]

From Murray instagram:
https://i.imgur.com/zdTE9ie_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

:wow

[weeks]

Kawhi is 100% gone.

[spurraider21]

yikes

[K...]

So Spurs had meeting with klaw "fuck you no Max". Kawhi balks, saying he's worth it, quietly leaks that he would take super Max with Spurs if offered to stay ahead of the pr battle, and then today Spurs tell players kawhi is being traded or that there's a dispute over money that keeps kawhi from signing an extension

[Play Boban]

Kawhitter = Kancer.

[BillMc]

From Murray instagram:
https://i.imgur.com/zdTE9ie_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
https://i.imgur.com/fLAFRQQ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium


Not sure what this means. This could be referencing a million things in a young NBA player's life.

[rjv]

Not sure what this means. This could be referencing a million things in a young NBA player's life.

in the ST universe, there are infinite realities.

[ducks]

Not sure what this means. This could be referencing a million things in a young NBA player's life.

could mean Clinton would do anything for money

[DPG21920]

I expect news of the Kawhi/Pop meeting to come out soon

[RD2191]

I expect news of the Kawhi/Pop meeting to come out soon

Info on when they met?

[TDomination]

Since he has a picture of Aldridge it's obvious he's talking about him

Right?

[NASpurs]

Shots fired at Derek Anderson :wow

[daslicer]

From Murray instagram:
https://i.imgur.com/zdTE9ie_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
https://i.imgur.com/fLAFRQQ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

I'm guessing Dejounte knows the deal with Kawhi being brainwashed by Uncle Dennis.

[spurraider21]

maybe it's directed at pau for not retiring tbh :lol

[HankChinaski]

He talking about hookers. I'm sorry sex workers.

[r0drig0lac]

maybe it's directed at pau for not retiring tbh :lol

I hope this is the case

[DPG21920]

Info on when they met?

Yup

[Trill Clinton]

what a depressing ass thread smh

[coachmac87]

From Murray instagram:
https://i.imgur.com/zdTE9ie_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
https://i.imgur.com/fLAFRQQ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Lmao of course people would think this is a shot of Kawhi...

But when you’ve got money..friends or homies will look at you strange.

But that’s none of my business

[Big Empty]

maybe it's directed at pau for not retiring tbh :lol
Ha h ha

[Ron Swanson]

Shots fired at Derek Anderson :wow

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

He's talking about Ginose, idiots. He's tired of seeing baby boomers collect free Hispanic heritage paychecks. His "LOYALTY" really showed when he was about to sign with Philly until the Spurs overpaid.

[weeks]

The pic of him and Lamarcus is what makes it obvious kawhi is gone.
He's clearly not talking about Aldridge.

[lmbebo]

its got me worried ....

[ace3g]

In terms of the exit interviews:

993598412040884224

[alpha_HaZE]

That sucks, if true.

[spursistan]

He is so gone..

Make no mistake about it: if the Spurs balked at the Supermax, they know that his health is fucked up pretty badly. It is not about the injury itself, but about Kawhi aptitude to deal with its side effect going forward.

They figured out he is too much of a mental weakling to mortgage the franchise for him.

[tholdren]

From Murray instagram:
https://i.imgur.com/zdTE9ie_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
https://i.imgur.com/fLAFRQQ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

YesYyyyyyyeeeeeessssssssss gtfo new respect for murray.

[alpha_HaZE]

On a second thought, DJ wouldn't call Kawhi out like that... if true it's low.

[Barfunk]

This is all Kawhi's uncle's fault. The dude is obviously shady as fuck. Kawhi will regret all of this one day.

[daslicer]

This is all Kawhi's uncle's fault. The dude is obviously shady as fuck. Kawhi will regret all of this one day.

I don't think he will since I believe he suffers from autism or aspergers. I just don't think he has awareness of what's going on around him.

[spurs10]

I don't think there DJ would say something like this about Kawhi and I don't think any of the gossip is meaningful. Pop and Kawhi will talk eventually. Either he stays or goes...not exactly a cure for cancer in the mix.

[ducks]

Donald J. Trump
Donald J. Trump realDonaldTrump
Weiner is gone, Spitzer is gone - next will be lightweight A.G. Eric Schneiderman. Is he a crook? Wait and see, worse than Spitzer or Weiner

[spursistan]

From Murray instagram:
https://i.imgur.com/zdTE9ie_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
https://i.imgur.com/fLAFRQQ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Kawhi may have turned out to be a bitchmade dude, but the IG baller needs to stop acting like he is some core piece :lol..

Let your game talk first before you start using those big words.

[goliath]

Assuming that pic is legit, her service is on the 18th so he's got time. Even if he wasn't staying and wants out, (which I personally don't believe) I think he would still show up.
Leaving San Antonio means nothing regarding the funeral. The funeral is at the Air Force academy in Colorado.

[ducks]

She should have been burried a long time ago
Dude needs closure before pop losses it more

[Play Boban]

Give Murray the supermax tbh!

[alpha_HaZE]

You guys are tools.

https://ibb.co/do50On



http://https://www.facebook.com/DejounteMurray/

[daslicer]

Kawhi may have turned out to be a bitchmade dude, but the IG baller needs to stop acting like he is some core piece :lol..

Let your game talk first before you start using those big words.

It doesn't bother me. He only has two years left with the Spurs. His arrogance is either going to make him a good player or he's going to be in the G-league in a few years. I don't think there will be a middle ground with Dejounte.

[Robz4000]

Kawhi may have turned out to be a bitchmade dude, but the IG baller needs to stop acting like he is some core piece :lol..

Let your game talk first before you start using those big words.

Eh, I have no problems with it. He's clearly been working on his game, just not so much on the offensive end (which supposedly wasn't his focus this past offseason due to Pop). If he's still clueless on offense next season then yeah.

Not saying he isn't untouchable, however. If he can be flipped for Kemba I'm all for it.

[weeks]

I don't think there DJ would say something like this about Kawhi and I don't think any of the gossip is meaningful. Pop and Kawhi will talk eventually. Either he stays or goes...not exactly a cure for cancer in the mix.

i think you guys are trying too hard to make molehills out of mountains
this is all really bad and there's zero doubt in my mind kawhi is gone

[monkeypunk]

Donald J. Trump
Donald J. Trump realDonaldTrump
Weiner is gone, Spitzer is gone - next will be lightweight A.G. Eric Schneiderman. Is he a crook? Wait and see, worse than Spitzer or Weiner

Can you take the Cheetoh dick out of your mouth for five seconds? Holy shit, you are straight up obsessing over a traitor to our country who hates you and wants you dead.

Always failing the IQ test, ducks you dumb fuck.

[sammy]

Can you take the Cheetoh dick out of your mouth for five seconds? Holy shit, you are straight up obsessing over a traitor to our country who hates you and wants you dead.

Always failing the IQ test, ducks you dumb fuck.

:bobo

[sammy]

could mean Clinton would do anything for money

Give me a break Ducks! The orange traitor sold out our country for money! Geez what an idiot!

[sammy]

People are stupid. Stupid people are a part of every fan base AND every ethnicity. Basing your judgement on the way people behave in this forum is not a good idea. This place is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to perspective or humility. Your making a pretty big statement. I agree there is a ton of poor posters on this site, but I feel like it not representative of most spurs fans

Exactly! James Evans it's wrong to lump everyone with Trump/Bush! That's so wrong! I hate those two idiots especially the orange shithole fake president!

[rjv]

Leaving San Antonio means nothing regarding the funeral. The funeral is at the Air Force academy in Colorado.

how dare you obfuscate the ST narrative with facts!

[SpursDynasty85]

how dare you obfuscate the ST narrative with facts!

Also, he spent most of 2nd half of the season in NY. Then has been in SA until then. It's offseason, who wouldn't spend it at home in Cali in May? Weather, family, and friends... You think Pop would allow Dejounte to be the one to react to news about Kawhi already? Lol..

[ducks]

Exactly! James Evans it's wrong to lump everyone with Trump/Bush! That's so wrong! I hate those two idiots especially the orange shithole fake president!

fake
lol cnn.com no where is the attorney general for new York on their page today
that is what you call fake news

trump has done more for the country already then the former
also he more popular then the former at the same time he was

[ducks]

Give Murray the supermax tbh!
can not he not earn the super max
must qualify first

[blizz]

Either he stays or he goes

No shit. In other news it’s either sunny or rainy and cloudy, Way to go out on a limb there

[blizz]

It doesn't bother me. He only has two years left with the Spurs. His arrogance is either going to make him a good player or he's going to be in the G-league in a few years. I don't think there will be a middle ground with Dejounte.
Really? Just where do you think he is now? An all star? Another stupid take. He’s either gonna be good or he’s not. No shit Sherlock.

[rjv]

No shit. In other news it’s either sunny or rainy and cloudy, Way to go out on a limb there sounds like jabari young.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

fake
lol cnn.com no where is the attorney general for new York on their page today
that is what you call fake news

trump has done more for the country already then the former
also he more popular then the former at the same time he was

:bobo

[ducks]

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Pretty remarkable: Washington Post, Axios, CNN, NBC News, LA Times, Politico NY -- not a single one of these news outlets mentioned Eric Schneiderman's party affiliation in their breaking news alerts.

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Pretty remarkable: Washington Post, Axios, CNN, NBC News, LA Times, Politico NY -- not a single one of these news outlets mentioned Eric Schneiderman's party affiliation in their breaking news alerts.

is kawhi leonard a democrat?

[spurraider21]

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Pretty remarkable: Washington Post, Axios, CNN, NBC News, LA Times, Politico NY -- not a single one of these news outlets mentioned Eric Schneiderman's party affiliation in their breaking news alerts.

what's pretty remarkable is how easily you buy into complete bullshit that could EASILY be checked


Schneiderman, a Democrat who was first elected in 2010...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/05/07/four-women-accuse-new-york-attorney-general-eric-schneiderman-of-physical-abuse/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9c43d3009bbc


a shocking fall from grace for a once rising star in Democratic politics. Schneiderman had cast himself as a fierce opponent and critic of President Donald Trump.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/07/politics/eric-schneiderman-violence-allegations/index.html


Schneiderman was seen as a rising Democratic Party star on the national stage.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/harvey-weinstein-scandal/n-y-attorney-general-schneiderman-accused-violence-toward-women-n872181


Schneiderman, a Democrat, had issued a statement to the New Yorker saying
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-pol-eric-schneiderman-20180507-story.html


Schneiderman, who had been a rising star in the Democratic Party, said he will resign effective Tuesday at the close of business.
https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2018/05/07/new-york-attorney-general-schneiderman-resigns-in-wake-of-bombshell-report-403563


Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, who like Mr. Schneiderman is a Democrat, called for him to step down.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/07/nyregion/new-york-attorney-general-eric-schneiderman-abuse.html

[spurraider21]

fake
lol cnn.com no where is the attorney general for new York on their page today
that is what you call fake news

trump has done more for the country already then the former
also he more popular then the former at the same time he was
on CNN.com home page

Analysis: Eric Schneiderman is the latest hypocritical, self delusional male politician (https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/08/politics/schneiderman-resignation-new-york/index.html)

[spurraider21]

if you have to make shit up to prove your point... then that says something about your point

[Budkin]

But what about Kawhi tho?

[spurraider21]

But what about Kawhi tho?
leaked footage of kawhi talking to his uncle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv2W5JVFJWw

[spurs10]

No shit. In other news it’s either sunny or rainy and cloudy, Way to go out on a limb there Exactly the point. No one has a clue and we won't know until they make a decision. Speculate all you want, that and five bucks will get you a cup of coffee.

[spurs10]

i think you guys are trying too hard to make molehills out of mountains
this is all really bad and there's zero doubt in my mind kawhi is gone I just have heard the press distort what people have actually said many times in this debacle. I still think that kind of money does wonders for mending fences.

[spurs10]

what's pretty remarkable is how easily you buy into complete bullshit that could EASILY be checked


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/05/07/four-women-accuse-new-york-attorney-general-eric-schneiderman-of-physical-abuse/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9c43d3009bbc


https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/07/politics/eric-schneiderman-violence-allegations/index.html


https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/harvey-weinstein-scandal/n-y-attorney-general-schneiderman-accused-violence-toward-women-n872181


http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-pol-eric-schneiderman-20180507-story.html


https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2018/05/07/new-york-attorney-general-schneiderman-resigns-in-wake-of-bombshell-report-403563


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/07/nyregion/new-york-attorney-general-eric-schneiderman-abuse.html :lol

[Budkin]

leaked footage of kawhi talking to his uncle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv2W5JVFJWw

:lol

[Play Boban]

can not he not earn the super max
must qualify first
Would rather him get it than Kawhitter though tbh. :wakeup

[Kuestmaster]

https://twitter.com/ringer/status/994804534718451712?s=19

He was tonight in LA at a fucking baseball game. He didn't attend to the spurs games because clearly he didn't want to (or the team didn't want him there). Not because he was only rehabbing in NY.

He is clearly gone.

[Uriel]

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[ace3g]

999780589170577408

[tholdren]

994683517043970049

To get better offers. Hes outta here

[kjhip1]

Danny Green states that Kawhi told him he wants to be in SA


https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/5/25/17394480/watch-danny-green-says-kawhi-wants-to-be-in-san-antonio

[Dancelot]

Danny Green states that Kawhi told him he wants to be in SA


https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/5/25/17394480/watch-danny-green-says-kawhi-wants-to-be-in-san-antonio
Nice

[SpursforSix]

Danny Green states that Kawhi told him he wants to be in SA


https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/5/25/17394480/watch-danny-green-says-kawhi-wants-to-be-in-san-antonio

Sounds like good news.
But it also makes me think that if Green is his closest friend on the team, Spurs will have to resign him. Not the worst thing in the world but just limits options.

[Joseph Kony]

Sounds like good news.
But it also makes me think that if Green is his closest friend on the team, Spurs will have to resign him. Not the worst thing in the world but just limits options.
Green's not going to opt out tbh

[spurs50_]

He wants to stay, if Green leaves.

[SpursforSix]

Green's not going to opt out tbh

Because he won't be able to get more? Or because he wants to stay in SA?

[Joseph Kony]

Because he won't be able to get more? Or because he wants to stay in SA?
the market for FA is going to be fairly shitty this summer, and i dont think any team will offer him anywhere 10m per season. my guess is he opts in and tries to cash in on an extension w/ SA or tries to roll the dice for more money next summer somewhere else. if he opts in at least he is a nice trading chip

[SpursforSix]

the market for FA is going to be fairly shitty this summer, and i dont think any team will offer him anywhere 10m per season. my guess is he opts in and tries to cash in on an extension w/ SA or tries to roll the dice for more money next summer somewhere else. if he opts in at least he is a nice trading chip

Yeah...I don't mind him opting in. Just didn't want to see Spurs hand out another huge contact to keep him.

[kjhip1]

At this point, if Kawhi can get back to being healthy, then you offer him the Supermax. That simple. Just Hope FO realizes we need to not resign TP unless it’s for the min.

[cd98]

All of that means nothing until Kawhi says it.

[313]

Kawhi hasnt been healthy in over a year with no surgery, if youre smart you trade him

edit: hopefully this post ages poorly

[coachmac87]

All of that means nothing until Kawhi says it.

Then you shouldn’t be sweating about the situation...

Cause he already said he would...I guess you missed his interview

[cd98]

Then you shouldn’t be sweating about the situation...

Cause he already said he would...I guess you missed his interview

I didn't. He said that on or around March 7, before the Manu/Tony confrontation that took him from "coming back in the near future" to "going back to NY and not coming back again until the season is over." The Manu/Tony meeting happened at the end of March.

[KimmyGib]

Not surprising. He wants supermax. Question is, does PATFO want to pay it considering all the baggage: Dubious injury, dubious behavior, dubious "group" influence. If these uncertainties don't clear up by the time he signs, I'd rather see them part ways.

[ducks]

Danny Green states that Kawhi told him he wants to be in SA


https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/5/25/17394480/watch-danny-green-says-kawhi-wants-to-be-in-san-antonio why in the hell would leonard not call a press conference and tell that to the world
SO SOME BALLS

[JPB]

Then you shouldn’t be sweating about the situation...

Cause he already said he would...I guess you missed his interview

By itv, you mean those weird, recited coupled of answers Dennis the Menace asked him to throw out there, after the bad press they were receiving and months of silence ?

And by saying he would, you mean that very emotional "yeah for sure" Rainman gave when asked if he wanted to be a spur for life ?

All is good then.

[tholdren]

Danny Green states that Kawhi told him he wants to be in SA


https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/5/25/17394480/watch-danny-green-says-kawhi-wants-to-be-in-san-antonio

Trade both

[ace3g]

Embedded vid


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A2n2tDZBws

[CGD]

Danny Green is probably the most critical and unrated glue guy behind the scenes. He’s a bridge to the past, but can credibly talk to the “new” guys about where things are.

[Rocalcio]

leaked footage of kawhi talking to his uncle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv2W5JVFJWw

:lol

[AFBlue]

Notice Danny didn't say shit about talking to Tony or Manu. I think if Kawhi is back, then Danny is back. But I also think Manu and Tony are gone and the Spurs turn to a whole new chapter.

Not sure it's a chapter I would like though...seems pretty bitch-made.

[FkLA]

Notice Danny didn't say shit about talking to Tony or Manu. I think if Kawhi is back, then Danny is back. But I also think Manu and Tony are gone and the Spurs turn to a whole new chapter.

Not sure it's a chapter I would like though...seems pretty bitch-made.

Why does that matter? I don't think Kawhi was ever hanging out with Tony and Manu even before this shit started. There's a clear difference in age and culture there. It makes sense that he'd be a little closer to another American black guy who still carries himself like he's in his early 20s (even though he's like 30 now :lol).

The 100 times worse comment by TP was pretty bad, even if true. That might've burned some bridges there. I really doubt Manu crossed that line though since he's always been a much better teammate, tbh.

[AFBlue]

Why does that matter? I don't think Kawhi was ever hanging out with Tony and Manu even before this shit started. There's a clear difference in age and culture there. It makes sense that he'd be a little closer to another American black guy who still carries himself like he's in his early 20s (even though he's like 30 now :lol).

The 100 times worse comment by TP was pretty bad, even if true. That might've burned some bridges there. I really doubt Manu crossed that line though since he's always been a much better teammate, tbh.

Speculating of course, but I can't imagine Kawhi not playing or being with the team down the stretch sat well with Manu. He is the ultimate competitor and team-first guy.

[offset formation]

Speculating of course, but I can't imagine Kawhi not playing or being with the team down the stretch sat well with Manu. He is the ultimate competitor and team-first guy.

I wouldn't even call that speculation, tbh. No way Manu, or Tony, or Pop, or several others were cool with that. Unless of course he was told to stay way until he was ready to suit up. That's the only unknown, imo.

[rasuo214]

Timmy was the only one of the Big 3 that Kawhi even had a decent relationship with.

[tholdren]

Speculating of course, but I can't imagine Kawhi not playing or being with the team down the stretch sat well with Manu. He is the ultimate competitor and team-first guy.

Everyone knows. Manu is just professional enough to keep it in house. Bye leonard

[BackHome]

Have we traded him yet?

[emanueldavidginobili]

Holy shit!!! Kyrie wasn’t at game 7 tonight in Boston. He definitely wants out!!

[tholdren]

Holy shit!!! Kyrie wasn’t at game 7 tonight in Boston. He definitely wants out!!

Pretty shitty teammate

[DPG21920]

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[Ice009]

Oh no. Not sure if that's good for Manu not to mention Kawhi.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Track by Third Root called "Kawhi"...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWt_qnlINCo

[TheGreatYacht]

1001304312763465728
Wish that faggot role player just called it a career already. Or at least President Trump will call it for him....