Ukraine

[ElNono]

They've been very open about not getting into direct combat with Russian soldiers/pilots. Ukraine has asked for NFZs but haven't gotten them. You seem to think they have everything they need yet they haven't repelled the attack.

No need for a NFZ but Ukraine requests it. Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky called on the international community to implement a no-fly zone to protect civilians and deny the Russian air force the ability to gain air superiority. CSIS

Historically, the United States has established and supported no-fly zones in Bosnia, Libya, and Iraq through sustained operations, such as both Northern and Southern Watch as well as Provide Comfort. These examples, however, differ in three key ways from the proposed no-fly zones over Ukraine. First, in these historic examples, the United States established the boundaries of each no-fly zone over an aggressor nation rather than a nation that is being supported. Second, those offending nations did not possess nuclear weapons—more specifically tactical nuclear weapons as a means of escalation as is the case of Russia. Finally, those nations did not possess the kinetic or non-kinetic striking power to impose costs on the nations supporting the no-fly zones. -CSIS

The US doesn't want to piss off Russia to the point of going to war against them. You can call proxy war all day, there's lines they don't want to cross.

Again, there's no air superiority by Russia in Ukraine. There's no need to deny Russia something it doesn't have and clearly has no intention of having.

Zelensky calls for a NFZ were early in the war and since he's backed off of it (https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-ukraines-volodymyr-zelensky-appears-to-be-backing-off-a-no-fly-zone).

I agree with you that NATO wouldn't want to get involved unless it has to (NATO is intrinsically a defensive coalition). And frankly, so far, it doesn't have to. Nobody wants to attack or invade Russia or Belarus (the last one NOT being a nuclear power, but an ally of Russia).

Now, using nuclear weapons in Ukraine might be a red line though, because it can affect neighborhood countries.

Conversely, the last thing Russia wants is NATO getting involved, because it very likely means the end of their Ukranian adventure.


NK doesn't have ICBM capability so all they can do in response is nuke other Asians.

In 2017, North Korea test-launched two ICBMs, the second of which had sufficient range to reach the continental United States.[55]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction


It can get worse for Ukraine as well. Time is the enemy for them.

Couldn't disagree more. Time is the worst enemy for Russia. Their economy, small as it was, is only going to get more contracted and their military pitfalls are well documented.

But, we'll see what happens during winter and onwards.

[TDMVPDPOY]

why hasnt ukraine fired back into russian territory.....all the damage is done on their soil

[ElNono]

why hasnt ukraine fired back into russian territory.....all the damage is done on their soil

They're trying to take back their land... they didn't attack Russia, it was the other way around.

[DMC]

Again, there's no air superiority by Russia in Ukraine. There's no need to deny Russia something it doesn't have and clearly has no intention of having.

Zelensky calls for a NFZ were early in the war and since he's backed off of it (https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-ukraines-volodymyr-zelensky-appears-to-be-backing-off-a-no-fly-zone).

I agree with you that NATO wouldn't want to get involved unless it has to (NATO is intrinsically a defensive coalition). And frankly, so far, it doesn't have to. Nobody wants to attack or invade Russia or Belarus (the last one NOT being a nuclear power, but an ally of Russia).

Now, using nuclear weapons in Ukraine might be a red line though, because it can affect neighborhood countries.

Conversely, the last thing Russia wants is NATO getting involved, because it very likely means the end of their Ukranian adventure.



In 2017, North Korea test-launched two ICBMs, the second of which had sufficient range to reach the continental United States.[55]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction



Couldn't disagree more. Time is the worst enemy for Russia. Their economy, small as it was, is only going to get more contracted and their military pitfalls are well documented.

But, we'll see what happens during winter and onwards.

They'll have to sit down to a negotiation eventually.

[benefactor]

They'll have to sit down to a negotiation eventually.
What do you know about negotiating? You are a bitch that negotiates in bitch terms.

[ElNono]

They'll have to sit down to a negotiation eventually.

It depends. Russia didn't sit down to negotiate in Afghanistan, for example, which was soon followed by their internal collapse.

But this is Europe, and I tend to agree. Though I just can't see any concessions from Ukraine at this juncture, not even Crimea.

[Ef-man]

What do you know about negotiating? You are a bitch that negotiates in bitch terms.

Chuncko stated that “Iraq” was seeking nukes and now he brings up negotiations as if it is a new concept to conclude the war. What an insight from the ST board idiot.

Fat hands bloviating as mighty russia is getting curb stomped by lowly Ukraine with hand-me-down western weapons. :lol

[benefactor]

It depends. Russia didn't sit down to negotiate in Afghanistan, for example, which was soon followed by their internal collapse.

But this is Europe, and I tend to agree. Though I just can't see any concessions from Ukraine at this juncture, not even Crimea.
All that aside, Ive been calling him out for like an hour for the bitch he is and apparently he has no desire to engage me

[benefactor]

Chuncko stated that “Iraq” was seeking nukes and now he brings up negotiations as if it is a new concept to conclude the war. What an insight from the ST board idiot.

Fat hands bloviating as mighty russia is getting curb stomped by lowly Ukraine with hand-me-down western weapons. :lol
Look at all the threads where Ive gone right at him. Is he just scared of me? Apparently so.

[Ef-man]

Surprised that hater did not post this. :lol

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1596668734181367811

[horseshue]

Surprised that hater did not post this. :lol

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1596668734181367811

He is not working in sundays.

[hater]

why hasnt ukraine fired back into russian territory.....all the damage is done on their soil

:lmao

[hater]

Reality is one tough professor :lmao


https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1597157445037481985

[boutons_deux]

why hasnt ukraine fired back into russian territory.....all the damage is done on their soil

yep, why hasn't Ukraine taken the war damage into Russian cities?

[Ef-man]

Reality is one tough professor :lmao


https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1597157445037481985

Speaking of shithole Colombian country analysis and logic. :lol

Colombia’s military trafficking arms for guerrillas: prosecution.

Multiple high-profile arrests and criminal investigations suggest that Colombia’s military has become one of the main arms suppliers of the country’s guerrilla groups.

Defense Minister Ivan Velasquez said earlier this month that “there are internal investigations in the army” after a flurry of arrests suggesting that corrupt members of the security forces have been arming the country’s illegal armed groups.

https://colombiareports.com/colombia-investigating-military-arms-trafficking-for-guerrillas/

[hater]

Col Macgreggor with a brutal assessment :wow

Wk6Tfb7qoF0

[ChumpDumper]

Col Macgreggor with a brutal assessment :wow

Wk6Tfb7qoF0

Did he say 3-5 days?

[Ef-man]

Did he say 3-5 days?

Plus, he would hate on hater because he has been described as "a racist crackpot who is pro-Russia, anti-Merkel, anti-Muslim and anti-Mexican."

[pgardn]

It depends. Russia didn't sit down to negotiate in Afghanistan, for example, which was soon followed by their internal collapse.

But this is Europe, and I tend to agree. Though I just can't see any concessions from Ukraine at this juncture, not even Crimea.

Absolutely agree.
Ukraine is on the front foot militarily which is why the Russians are going after civilians. Militarily, Ukraine has the will and the equipment given to their military is growing more potent as the Russians continue to cause civilian suffering.

It may even be tough to hold the Ukrainians back on retribution against Russian civilians in some border cities if Ukraine gets the opportunity.
As more is learned about humanitarian conduct against Ukrainian citizens, I can see it being difficult to hold all Ukrainian units back from opportunistic retribution on Russians who are easy targets. Imo The Russian actions now will produce revenge seeking Ukrainian factions. These kinds of conflicts can produce fighters who must kill to reach some sort of mental equilibrium Imo… They will be hell-bent on killing any Russians in certain situations and will have the weapons and opportunities to do so. We may also be the country responsible for supplying info for war crime trials not only against Russians, but also Ukrainians at some point.

This mess is a great opportunity for weapons manufacturers to see how well their equipment functions.
Hater is all in on this.

[pgardn]

Did he say 3-5 days?


Plus, he would hate on hater because he has been described as "a racist crackpot who is pro-Russia, anti-Merkel, anti-Muslim and anti-Mexican."

Hater’s go to rubbish bin of opinion.

[ElNono]

Reality is one tough professor :lmao

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1597157445037481985

Because the high number of cannon fodder from Russia really did they any good :lmao:lmao:lmao

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1597468838333149187

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1597577883748552705

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1597573899771936769

[Ef-man]

Nothing expresses "My deepest condolences" like some red towels.

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1597142569011798017

[hater]

Because the high number of cannon fodder from Russia really did they any good :lmao:lmao:lmao

Lol Salvadorians getting their bodycount #s from Disneyworld.com/tinkerbell


:lmao

[ElNono]

Lol Salvadorians getting their bodycount #s from Disneyworld.com/tinkerbell

:lmao

:lmao the irony of this post, from somebody that readily admits P:lolp:lol lies and still posts his shit

[hater]

TheGuardian:

Ukraine’s 2030 World Cup bid likely dead after country’s FA chief arrested
Andriy Pavelko and general secretary accused of embezzling funds related to construction of artificial grass factory



:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lol :lol

Every single time :lmao

[Ef-man]

Yes, army on par with China and US with troops wearing knee pads made from coke cola plastic bottles.

https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1597547185310425088

[Ef-man]

Tying shoe laces. :lmao

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1597719733776052224

[hater]

EU finally admits 100,000 Ukranian soldiers have been destroyed.

Minutes later they delete their admission from official accounts after Ukraine complains :lmao :lmao


https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1597913370023579648

[pgardn]

EU finally admits 100,000 Ukranian soldiers have been destroyed.

Minutes later they delete their admission from official accounts after Ukraine complains :lmao :lmao


https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1597913370023579648

You dont need the EU or Putin to tell you how many deaths have occurred on both sides.
And here is the guy calling for peace laughing at deaths again.
Read. ISW. " They wont give me the facts because... uhhhh... Bill Crystal?"
Even though you have already posted numerous facts, when they suit you, that come from ISW.

Such a rotten scrotum of a human...
Lying sack of shit psuedo-humanitarian

[hater]

You dont need the EU or Putin to tell you how many deaths have occurred on both sides.
And here is the guy calling for peace laughing at deaths again.
Read. ISW. " They wont give me the facts because... uhhhh... Bill Crystal?"
Even though you have already posted numerous facts, when they suit you, that come from ISW.

Such a rotten scrotum of a human...
Lying sack of shit psuedo-humanitarian

Still quoting ISW the neocon talking head


:lmao

What a warmonger neocon you are ma nig :lol

[hater]

EU finally admits 100,000 Ukranian soldiers have been destroyed.

Minutes later they delete their admission from official accounts after Ukraine complains :lmao :lmao


https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1597913370023579648

The self-censorship of European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen’s speech, in which she mentioned Ukrainian casualties, is “humiliating” for the bloc and shows it is nothing but a US puppet, former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev said on Wednesday.
“It is obvious that ‘Aunt Ursula’ was slapped upside the head by her bosses in Washington,” Medvedev said in a post on VK. “Seemed to hurt, too. It looks extremely humiliating.”[.]



:lmao ma nig Meds going balls deep

[ChumpDumper]

:lol toady hater

[hater]

Wesley Clark who months ago claimed Russians were doing terrible and couldnt even tie their shoes or chew gum and fight now admits Ukranians are taking huge losses in Bakhmut and that Russians have turned it into a meatgrinder

https://twitter.com/AAndreatos/status/1598054276768886784

[ElNono]

Wesley Clark who months ago claimed Russians were doing terrible and couldnt even tie their shoes or chew gum and fight now admits Ukranians are taking huge losses in Bakhmut and that Russians have turned it into a meatgrinder

https://twitter.com/AAndreatos/status/1598054276768886784

Didn't you tell us Ukraine was fleeing Bakhmut months ago? I can look up the post if you want :lmao

[Ef-man]

Tying shoe laces. :lmao

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1597719733776052224

It is true about russians not being able to tie their shoes. :lol

[Brazil]

Didn't you tell us Ukraine was fleeing Bakhmut months ago? I can look up the post if you want :lmao

if we try to follow all the dumbass predictions and takes of Hater its a full time job :lmao

[hater]

https://twitter.com/AAndreatos/status/1598054276768886784

Ce la vi :lol

[hater]

Didn't you tell us Ukraine was fleeing Bakhmut months ago? I can look up the post if you want :lmao

And u told us Russia would run out of tanks by April :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[pgardn]

TheGuardian:

Ukraine’s 2030 World Cup bid likely dead after country’s FA chief arrested
Andriy Pavelko and general secretary accused of embezzling funds related to construction of artificial grass factory



:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lol :lol

Every single time :lmao

Oh he got arrested?
In Russia you get a raise.

Dumb fck.

[hater]

:lmao so much winning :lol

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1597930521853677572

[pgardn]

Still quoting ISW the neocon talking head


:lmao

What a warmonger neocon you are ma nig :lol

You have quoted them you fkn idiot by posting articles from other sources that use them.
Extensively use ISW.

But Hater mostly uses Sergei, 13 yo middle schooler, who is followed by his 53 classmates.

[pgardn]

:lmao so much winning :lol

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1597930521853677572

“I believe every person in Russia and Ukraine are fine upstanding world citizens like myself!”

[ElNono]

And u told us Russia would run out of tanks by April :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

No I didn't. Link it :lmao

Making shit up like P:lolp:lol. I'd like to say it's a new low, but it isn't :lmao

Consistently the worst informed poster ITT :lmao

[ElNono]

:lmao another epic loss for Helensky :lmao


Yeah they moving along the road away from Bakhmut

:lmao literally 4 months ago
:lmao falling for fake tweets every time

[pgardn]

No I didn't. Link it :lmao

Making shit up like P:lolp:lol. I'd like to say it's a new low, but it isn't :lmao

Consistently the worst informed poster ITT :lmao

And naturally stupid from birth.

[Ef-man]

:lmao literally 4 months ago
:lmao falling for fake tweets every time

Hater’s constant struggle ITT is real. :lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/Jk4ZT6R0OEUoM/giphy.gif

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1598377712695054364

[Ef-man]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1598365129271578624

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1598318522471432193

[pgardn]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1598365129271578624

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1598318522471432193

Hater's hero is an honest to God TOAD that lives in some radioactive Russian stream.

[hater]

No I didn't. Link it :lmao

Making shit up like P:lolp:lol. I'd like to say it's a new low, but it isn't :lmao

Consistently the worst informed poster ITT :lmao

Yessir u did

U repeqted countless times Russia is running of tanks, airplanes, missiles and ammo :lmao

For 8 months straight :lmao

Ball dont lie

U also believed in ghost of kiev. Btw :lmao



So gullible :lmao :lol :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Yessir u did

U repeqted countless times Russia is running of tanks, airplanes, missiles and ammo :lmao

For 8 months straight :lmao

Ball dont lie

U also believed in ghost of kiev. Btw :lmao



So gullible :lmao :lol :lmao

Post links or fold again.

[hater]

They're innocuous though... what are they going to do, other than put out a presser? All those countries are just going to dance around to see what free shit they can get and from who.

The one sweating bullets is Lukashenko in Belarus. That's a true Russian ally, and has the most to lose if an armed conflict does happen. Nato isn't stopping in Ukraine, they had him in their crosshairs for a long ass time.

Heres you predicting NATO will take ova Belarus btw. :lmao :lmao

[hater]

Nato will take both if there's an actual armed conflict. This is not complicated, if you won in Ukraine, taking Belarus isn't all that complicated as a follow-through.

We've seen this happen as a result of the cold war as well, where it wasn't just western germany that splintered, a lot of these states started their own independence.

ElBitcoino on Feb 8:

NATO will take Ova belarus and ukkraine if theres a war :lmao :lmao

https://twitter.com/shaker14111990/status/1598424391573970944


:lmao Salvadorian Oracles :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

ElBitcoino on Feb 8:

NATO will take Ova belarus and ukkraine if theres a war :lmao :lmao

https://twitter.com/shaker14111990/status/1598424391573970944


:lmao Salvadorian Oracles :lmaoBut there's not a war with NATO.

hater loses

[Ef-man]

But there's not a war with NATO.

hater loses

ChumpDumper, who was the idiot that started these gems on NATO vs Belarus?

Asking for a very salty fuck. :lmao :lmao :lmao

Shits getting real n8gs. Ww24 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286761&highlight=belarus)

911 emergency WW32 imminent (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287087&p=10260828&highlight=belarus)

[ElNono]

Yessir u did

U repeqted countless times Russia is running of tanks, airplanes, missiles and ammo :lmao

For 8 months straight :lmao

Ball dont lie

U also believed in ghost of kiev. Btw :lmao

So gullible :lmao :lol :lmao

Post the links then :lmao

Here comes the fold...

[ElNono]

Heres you predicting NATO will take ova Belarus btw. :lmao :lmao

:lol Learn to read... "if an armed conflict does happen".

Hasn't happened. We can check back when and if it does :lmao

[ElNono]

How it started:


Yessir u did

U repeqted countless times Russia is running of tanks, airplanes, missiles and ammo :lmao

For 8 months straight :lmao

Ball dont lie

U also believed in ghost of kiev. Btw :lmao

So gullible :lmao :lol :lmao


Post the links

Hows it going:


ElBitcoino on Feb 8:

NATO will take Ova belarus and ukkraine if theres a war :lmao :lmao

:lmao Salvadorian Oracles :lmao

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Ef-man]

More conspiracy shit from right, par.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1598438337039196160

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1598518245107154945

[horseshue]

How it started:





Hows it going:



:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

How it started: This will be over in 3-5 days
How it's going: We need peace talks
:lol

[velik_m]

1598455810669309952

[hater]

How it started:





Hows it going:



:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

NATO will take ova Belorus :lmao :lmao

[hater]

:lmao the Putler shitting himself :lmao :lmao

DailyMail:

Vladimir Putin fell down stairs at him home on Wednesday night, it is claimed
Russian leader bruised his coccyx as he slipped down seven steps, reports say
Telegram channel that claims links to his bodyguards said Putin 'involuntarily defecated' due to effects of 'cancer of the gastrointestinal tract'
Vladimir Putin has fallen down stairs at his official residence and soiled himself while continuing to suffer from cancer, a Telegram channel which claims links to his bodyguards has suggested.

The 70-year-old Russian leader, whose health has visibly deteriorated since he launched his war in Ukraine, suffered the fall on Wednesday evening when he slipped coming down stairs at his Moscow home, channel General SVR claims.

[ElNono]

NATO will take ova Belorus :lmao :lmao

:lmao where are the links to your claims?
:lmao hater folds

[velik_m]

1598602958626750467

[velik_m]

1598694521176571904

[velik_m]

1599054954043301889

[hater]

Security Guarantees: How to End the Ukraine War?
Speaking to French television network TF1 in an interview recorded during his recent trip to the United States, Macron argued that Europe needs to begin preparing future security architecture with a view to making some guarantees for Russia. “This means that one of the essential points we must address – as President Putin has always said – is the fear that NATO comes right up to its doors, and the deployment of weapons that could threaten Russia,” the French president said. “That topic will be part of the topics for peace, so we need to prepare what we are ready to do, how we protect our allies and member states, and how to give guarantees to Russia the day it returns to the negotiating table.” It’s a suggestion that Macron has made before.




wow

Macron talking about security guarantees which russia has always asked for :wow



shits getting real :wow


it this happens. russia wins hands down :wow


crazy shit

[hater]

1598455810669309952

:lmao cocaine is one helluva drug :lmao

our best customer :tu

[clambake]

Do something else, hater

For yourself.

[pgardn]

Security Guarantees: How to End the Ukraine War?
Speaking to French television network TF1 in an interview recorded during his recent trip to the United States, Macron argued that Europe needs to begin preparing future security architecture with a view to making some guarantees for Russia. “This means that one of the essential points we must address – as President Putin has always said – is the fear that NATO comes right up to its doors, and the deployment of weapons that could threaten Russia,” the French president said. “That topic will be part of the topics for peace, so we need to prepare what we are ready to do, how we protect our allies and member states, and how to give guarantees to Russia the day it returns to the negotiating table.” It’s a suggestion that Macron has made before.




wow

Macron talking about security guarantees which russia has always asked for :wow



shits getting real :wow


it this happens. russia wins hands down :wow


crazy shit

Sure they can make security guarantees. (Macron has tried this talk for himself like 4 times already… it will be followed by what you read next) YET AGAIN; since Hater can’t seem to understand unless he gets drilled.

When Russia leaves Ukraine.
When Russia is allowed back into the world economy and pays for the damages caused in Ukraine.
When Russia hands over its war criminals.

The West did not want this invasion in the first place, Putin did.
So he will pay for his damage and guarantee he will not attack a sovereign country again.

Then security for his authoritarian position can be decided by the Russian people whom he has made suffer so much.
Peace then. It’s quite straightforward.

[hater]

1598694521176571904

:tu

[hater]

Do something else, hater

For yourself.

:lol :tu

ma niga

[ChumpDumper]

Security Guarantees: How to End the Ukraine War?
Speaking to French television network TF1 in an interview recorded during his recent trip to the United States, Macron argued that Europe needs to begin preparing future security architecture with a view to making some guarantees for Russia. “This means that one of the essential points we must address – as President Putin has always said – is the fear that NATO comes right up to its doors, and the deployment of weapons that could threaten Russia,” the French president said. “That topic will be part of the topics for peace, so we need to prepare what we are ready to do, how we protect our allies and member states, and how to give guarantees to Russia the day it returns to the negotiating table.” It’s a suggestion that Macron has made before.




wow

Macron talking about security guarantees which russia has always asked for :wow



shits getting real :wow


it this happens. russia wins hands down :wow


crazy shit

So your theory is NATO has plans to preemptively invade Russia.


:lmao dumbass

[ElNono]

Security Guarantees: How to End the Ukraine War?
Speaking to French television network TF1 in an interview recorded during his recent trip to the United States, Macron argued that Europe needs to begin preparing future security architecture with a view to making some guarantees for Russia. “This means that one of the essential points we must address – as President Putin has always said – is the fear that NATO comes right up to its doors, and the deployment of weapons that could threaten Russia,” the French president said. “That topic will be part of the topics for peace, so we need to prepare what we are ready to do, how we protect our allies and member states, and how to give guarantees to Russia the day it returns to the negotiating table.” It’s a suggestion that Macron has made before.

Unsurprising France is the first to surrender, tbh

[velik_m]

1599323408956694528

[pgardn]

:tu

"Thumbs up on throwing women in jail for not wearing something on their head.
Russia can help if it involves removing freedom of individuals"

[horseshue]

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1599368091032784896

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1599368091032784896

That's like 12 dollars? :lmao

[DMX7]

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1599368091032784896

It's become a full fledged dystopian police state of a kind George Orwell couldn't have even dreamt of.

[DMX7]

That's like 12 dollars? :lmao

I think it's more like $400ish although the real exchange rate is hard to calculate right now with all the sanctions and distortions in the market.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Cottonelle TP is worth more than fucking rubles:lol

[ElNono]

White House dismisses as unserious Kremlin’s conditional willingness to discuss ending Ukraine war

WASHINGTON – The White House on Friday dismissed as unserious Moscow’s conditional willingness to discuss an end to Russia’s war in Ukraine.

“I would look askance at anything coming out of the Kremlin when it comes to those kinds of pronouncements,” White House spokesman John Kirby told reporters. “Mr. Putin has shown no indication that he's willing to sit down and talk and to end this war.”

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters Friday that Russian President Vladimir Putin has always been open to negotiations, Reuters reported. But the U.S.’s refusal to recognize Ukrainian territory claimed by Russia “significantly complicates the search for mutual ground for discussion.”

Peskov was responding to President Joe Biden’s comments at a joint press conference with French President Emmanuel Macron at the White House Thursday.

Biden said that, while he has no immediate plans to contact Putin, he is prepared to meet with the Russian leader "if he has decided he's looking for a way to end the war."

Kirby said the most visible action Putin could take to show he’s serious is to withdraw his troops, stop shelling Ukrainian infrastructure and cease launching drones at civilian targets.

“Actions speak louder than words,” Kirby said. “And their actions convey a grim determination by the Russians to continue to kill Ukrainians.”

https://www.yahoo.com/now/white-house-dismisses-unserious-kremlin-192156815.html

[pgardn]

From Ukraine MoD:

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense (MoD) stated that those who suggest the winter will pause hostilities “likely never sunbathed in January on the southern coast of Crimea,” suggesting that Ukrainian forces intend to continue counteroffensive operations over the coming winter that contribute toward the goal of retaking Crimea.

Oh snap heater Hater!
Time for Russia to LEAVE

And lol at the bolded.
The Ukrainians are also better with the written barbs than old toad Lavrov.

[horseshue]

https://twitter.com/the_ins_ru/status/1599383669323354112
Long story short, man saw zelensky in a dream, and got fined for that. Thought crime. :lol

[pgardn]

https://twitter.com/the_ins_ru/status/1599383669323354112
Long story short, man saw zelensky in a dream, and got fined for that. Thought crime. :lol

I dreamt of a man who SAW Zelensky in his dream!
But I did not actually see the man in my dream, I just talked to him.
His name was Bob.
But that’s all I know.

phew….

[horseshue]

I think it's more like $400ish although the real exchange rate is hard to calculate right now with all the sanctions and distortions in the market.

30k rubles is more than half of average monthly salary in russia.

[horseshue]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1599673585768927233
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1599663880728285185
Someone needs to remind these russians, that smoking kills.

[Isitjustme?]

1598395205560008720

[RandomGuy]

Lots of words here but nothing to explain why Ukraine offensive stopped :lol

"Kherson will be taken in months"


Tik Tok


:lmao

Fucking idiot.

[RandomGuy]

Hater has totally lost it. Is he just trolling or ???? It baffles me.

He has been trolling the entire time. He is here to lie clumsily and spew russian bullshit.

[RandomGuy]

If Russia loses Kherson in next few days Im rooting for negotiation and a Russian Surrender.


But if West does not want to negotiate the nukes will fly nig.

Guaransheed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjMyTHmXkAM9doJ?format=jpg&name=small

LOL

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1599673585768927233
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1599663880728285185
Someone needs to remind these russians, that smoking kills.

Hitting RUS strat bombers is a significant development. As is RUS running out of missiles, and low on artillery shells.

RUS is becoming an Iranian and North Korean proxy. Iran will fight until the last Russian.

[RandomGuy]

If Russia loses Kherson in next few days Im rooting for negotiation and a Russian Surrender.


But if West does not want to negotiate the nukes will fly nig.

Guaransheed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjN_6l-X0AE-FA1?format=jpg&name=small

[velik_m]

1599794050571603971

[velik_m]

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[velik_m]

1599987605596086272

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[velik_m]

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[Ef-man]

Oh, the horror of a restroom marked "WC." Why haven't putler's fans posted this outrage?

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1600460179564380160

[Ef-man]

But at least it is not marked "WC'"

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1600385459695153154

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1600540859325464583

[Winehole23]

Is this a pivot? Or just clumsy wording?

A bit later in the interview Blinken seems to dodge a direct follow up question on Crimea with nonspecified avowals to help Ukraine get back land seized.



SECRETARY BLINKEN: Our focus is on continuing to do what we’ve been doing, which is to make sure that Ukraine has in its hands what it needs to defend itself, what it needs to push back against the Russian aggression, to take back territory that’s been seized from it since February 24th, to make sure as well that it has the support economically and on a humanitarian basis to withstand what’s happening in the country every single day. That’s our focus.https://www.state.gov/secretary-antony-j-blinken-with-editor-in-chief-matt-murray-at-the-wall-street-journal-ceo-council-summit/

[DMX7]

He's been going wild lately but the guy has probably slept like 7 hours total in the past two weeks.

By the way, you're looking at the Time Magazine Person of the Year (2022). Bank it!

:lol

[hater]

:lmao :lmao :lmao how fitting :lmao

Holeee sheet :lmao

https://content.time.com/time/daily/2010/1012/360_hitler_cover.jpg

1938 Time Person of The Year: Adolf Hitler :lol

https://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,760539,00.html

[boutons_deux]

UKR hit another military airport deep within Russia

[hater]

ElNono me tion3d by POTUS :lmao :lmao :lmao

Ma nig ElNono is a leg3nd :lol


k70u35t-SLI

[hater]

ElNono me tion3d by POTUS :lmao :lmao :lmao

Ma nig ElNono is a leg3nd :lol


k70u35t-SLI

This nigas eyes look jacked up as shit :lol

[boutons_deux]

Russia's war on Ukraine latest news: Belarus says moving troops


Belarus said on Wednesday (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-appears-show-ability-strike-far-inside-russia-2022-12-06/)

it was moving troops and military hardware

to counteract what it called a terrorism threat, :lol

amid signs Moscow could be pressuring Minsk to open a new front in the war against Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-war-ukraine-latest-news-russian-troops-pull-back-near-kherson-2022-12-01

[velik_m]

Russian Urals crude oil was around $57 a barrel in the second week of December, the lowest since January of 2021, trading at a discount of about $20 to the international Brent crude oil benchmark. Rising freight costs for tankers carrying Russian oil to China and India, the main seaborne importers this year, pushed prices down, with many shipowners refraining from handling Russian oil as the price cap and the EU ban on Russian oil imports went into effect on December 5th. G7 countries, the EU and Australia agreed on a $60 a barrel price cap for Russian seaborne oil in an attempt to reduce Russian ability to continue financing the war in Ukraine. The Kremlin already said is considering setting a price floor for its oil sales as a response. Urals oil price remains nearly half of $111 touched in early March when the war in Ukraine started.

https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/urals-oil

[spurraider21]

:lmao :lmao :lmao how fitting :lmao

Holeee sheet :lmao

https://content.time.com/time/daily/2010/1012/360_hitler_cover.jpg

1938 Time Person of The Year: Adolf Hitler :lol

https://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,760539,00.html
time person of the year doesnt go to the "best person of the year"

they even define it as the person who "for better or worse has done the most to influence the events of the year"

[Ef-man]

No shit! :lmao

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1600516082711887873

[ElNono]

ElNono me tion3d by POTUS :lmao :lmao :lmao

Ma nig ElNono is a leg3nd :lol


k70u35t-SLI

Damn, this guy has Putler by the balls... he's a bad mofo...

[pgardn]

Is this a pivot? Or just clumsy wording?

A bit later in the interview Blinken seems to dodge a direct follow up question on Crimea with nonspecified avowals to help Ukraine get back land seized.


https://www.state.gov/secretary-antony-j-blinken-with-editor-in-chief-matt-murray-at-the-wall-street-journal-ceo-council-summit/

He also said that Ukraine has every right to take back its territory, its Ukraine's decision.
It was then noted that Ukraine wants Crimea back and he again stated its Ukraine's decision.
It may be a way of decreasing US funding and asking more from Europe. Its pretty clear that most European nations in NATO are giving a larger % of money to Ukraine based on their defense spending. Ukraine said it would consider peace and negotiations after it regain all of its territories. And that Russia would pledge never to attack Ukraine territory again. Negotiations would involve Russia paying for damages and war crime procedural set ups.

Blinken is playing diplomat. Which is what he is supposed to be doing. My take is Ukraine wants Crimea back. If they have to militarily take it back, they will attempt to do so.

[pgardn]

I would add to this that the way in which Russia is governed after this mess is of concern to the US.
I dont think we want Putin completely out of power as there are Nationalistic elements in Russia that would completely destroy Russia in order to win this war, because they consider it a real war in which all Russia should take part in.

I dont think the US fantasizes that Russia will somehow become a peaceful country and more of a democracy after this mess.

[hater]

Damn, this guy has Putler by the balls... he's a bad mofo...

Yeah by the balls with his mouth :lmao

[hater]

time person of the year doesnt go to the "best person of the year"

they even define it as the person who "for better or worse has done the most to influence the events of the year"

:tu

[hater]

What happened nigas? Last week Western media said Putler fell down his stairs and shit himself due to his advanced cancer and parkinsons :lmao

What happened? Whynis he still giving interviews?


:lmao

[DeadlyDynasty]

Bakhmut will likely fall before the New Year

[hater]

Bakhmut will likely fall before the New Year

But after Crimea :lmao

[pgardn]

Bakhmut will likely fall before the New Year

From what I have read it does not have much strategic importance and has become an easy way to kill Russians so Ukraine is not so concerned.
They get to kill many Russians.

[FrostKing]

Hi

[pgardn]

But after Crimea :lmao

Its a good thing Russia is rebuilding the Kerch bridge.
There will be many Russians who need that bridge to LEAVE Crimea.
I guess you find this funny as well.

[ChumpDumper]

What happened nigas? Last week Western media said Putler fell down his stairs and shit himself due to his advanced cancer and parkinsons :lmao

What happened? Whynis he still giving interviews?


:lmao

Which western media said that?

Post multiple links.

[pgardn]

Hi

Dzein dobry

[DMX7]

time person of the year doesnt go to the "best person of the year"

they even define it as the person who "for better or worse has done the most to influence the events of the year"

Right, except in this case it's obviously for the better. Hater would admit that if his Russian overlords allowed him too. :lol

[pgardn]

Which western media said that?

Post multiple links.

I have not read anything on this either.

[ElNono]

Yeah by the balls with his mouth :lmao

^^^ this is projection, tbh

[DeadlyDynasty]

From what I have read it does not have much strategic importance and has become an easy way to kill Russians so Ukraine is not so concerned.
They get to kill many Russians.
There’s nothing left to defend, whole city has been reduced to rubble. AFU is suffering nearly 700 casualties a day there this past month, including up to 200 killed. Russians are suffering 2 1/2 times that.

I could be wrong, but some of our contacts in foreign legions said they were ordered to start moving out, where they’ll likely fall back to Kostyantynivka. If the Russians try to take Kostyantynivka they’ll run out of men. It’s too well fortified and even the Russian military strategy of Operation Human Wave would run out of steam. It’s taken them nearly 5 months to take Bakhmut with their best troops, and it’s technically still not taken as of now.

[ElNono]

Bakhmut will likely fall before the New Year

:lol what do you mean? Hater said Ukrainians left 4 months ago :lmao

[FrostKing]

Dzein dobry
Jak się masz?

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol what do you mean? Hater said Ukrainians left 4 months ago :lmao
In all honesty, if you study the Battle of Verdun you will see shocking similarities in tactics.

Russian casualties figures are obscene. It’s been a meat grinder on both sides, and as always the attacking force in any static frontline position suffer 2-3 times the casualties.

[hater]

In all honesty, if you study the Battle of Verdun you will see shocking similarities in tactics.

Russian casualties figures are obscene. It’s been a meat grinder on both sides, and as always the attacking force in any static frontline position suffer 2-3 times the casualties.

Well you failed at your studies :lmao

It is 3-1 ratio yes. But Russia is mainly shelling from a distance.

Ursula Von Baboon said it herself. Ukronazis lost 100k soldiers. If we go by your logic Russia has losk 300k men :lmao how can they lose 300k ifvthey had initially commited 150k :lmao

Back to school u go ma nig :lmao

[hater]

^^^ this is projection, tbh

Says the Salvadorian that keeps claiming Biden is owning everyone when he cant even pronounce words

Or open his eyes :lmao

[pgardn]

Jak się masz?


dobrze sobie radzi

[pgardn]

Well you failed at your studies :lmao

It is 3-1 ratio yes. But Russia is mainly shelling from a distance.

Ursula Von Baboon said it herself. Ukronazis lost 100k soldiers. If we go by your logic Russia has losk 300k men :lmao how can they lose 300k ifvthey had initially commited 150k :lmao

Back to school u go ma nig :lmao

Why is Russia even trying to take what is left of this city?
For what reason?
Answer: There is no military reason to take this many casualties on this area. Its stupid.

Ukraine does not have problems with man power yet. They have problems with enough good weapons. But not as much problem as Russia.
Meanwhile Putin sends kids to slaughter. His right hand waiter of the Wagner group gets rid of Russian prisoners this way. Except when they we retreat they meet Russians told to kill them. So which way to go... such an f ed up strategy. Letting Private companies fight your war because your leader has no clue...

Do you think this war Putin started was a mistake?

[ElNono]

Says the Salvadorian that keeps claiming Biden is owning everyone when he cant even pronounce words

Or open his eyes :lmao

yet that guy is running circles around Putler :lmao

What does that say about Putler, when a mummy completely owns him? :lmao

[ElNono]

how can they lose 300k ifvthey had initially commited 150k :lmao

Yes, Russia initially only committed 150k for the 3-5 day invasion.

But why are you leaving out the Wagner troops and prisoners and the recent draft? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Ukr should take out the Kerch bridge again

[hater]

yet that guy is running circles around Putler :lmao

What does that say about Putler, when a mummy completely owns him? :lmao

Now thats projection ^



:lmao

[hater]

Yes, Russia initially only committed 150k for the 3-5 day invasion.

But why are you leaving out the Wagner troops and prisoners and the recent draft? :lol

Yeah Wagner are a force of 150k :lmao

And yeah the prisoners how can we all forget the mighty batallion of prisoners thats fighting for Russia :rolleyes



:lmao

[Ef-man]

Ole Joe arming Poland without the need of a "perfect call!"

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1600443156377370625

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1600600836580810755

[ElNono]

Now thats projection ^

:lmao

How is it projection? Big Old Joe just making you and Putler look silly every time.

Remember when Old Joe called the invasion and you said it wasn't going to happen? Good times :lmao

[ElNono]

Yeah Wagner are a force of 150k :lmao

And yeah the prisoners how can we all forget the mighty batallion of prisoners thats fighting for Russia :rolleyes

:lmao

So why did Putler call a draft if he still has the 150k? You gonna fold again? :lmao:lmao:lmao

[pgardn]

How is it projection? Big Old Joe just making you and Putler look silly every time.

Remember when Old Joe called the invasion and you said it wasn't going to happen? Good times :lmao

Bolded killed the Snek.
Shovel to the neck, no more head.

[velik_m]

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[velik_m]

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[hater]

How is it projection? Big Old Joe just making you and Putler look silly every time.

Remember when Old Joe called the invasion and you said it wasn't going to happen? Good times :lmao

More projection ^ :lmao

[hater]

So why did Putler call a draft if he still has the 150k? You gonna fold again? :lmao:lmao:lmao

:lmao Salvadorian analyst now thinks Russia lost 150k men :lmao :lmao :lmao

By your logic why then Helensky mobilized his country 7 times already :lol

Why are they mobilizing 60 year olds and want to mobilize women?

Where is Helenskys army of 700k men that He claimed he had??? If by your logic, Russia has lost 150k men and only has very few men left...

why isnt Helenskys army of 700k bum rushing through the Donbas??? :lol



:lmao :lmao holee sheet

[ElNono]

More projection ^ :lmao

:lmao hater doesn't know what projection means and folds

[ElNono]

:lmao Salvadorian analyst now thinks Russia lost 150k men :lmao :lmao :lmao

By your logic why then Helensky mobilized his country 7 times already :lol

Why are they mobilizing 60 year olds and want to mobilize women?

Where is Helenskys army of 700k men that He claimed he had??? If by your logic, Russia has lost 150k men and only has very few men left...

why isnt Helenskys army of 700k bum rushing through the Donbas??? :lol

:lmao :lmao holee sheet

:lmao making up numbers left and right... answer the question:

So why did Putler call a draft if he still has the 150k? You gonna fold again? :lmao:lmao:lmao

[hater]

:lmao making up numbers left and right... answer the question:

So why did Putler call a draft if he still has the 150k? You gonna fold again? :lmao:lmao:lmao

Easy

He started with 150k which is not enough to do jackshit. So he called 300k more out of which 150k are already in donbas while 150k are still training and reserves.

Russia has about 300k soldiers in donbas right now with about 150k mobilized reserves plus about 100k volunteers and regular atmy waiting in the wings in Russis and Belarus. Thats about 550k soldiers preparing for a looong war


Now you show me your numbers. How many russians have died? How many ukranians have died?

Niga :lol

[hater]

Some truth on this exact matter

Warning this video will burst a lot of fantasy bubbles

YIHRcP3FBLc

[hater]

EU Joseph Borrego admitting Trump was right :lmao

"Europe must begin to take more responsibility for its own security, EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell has said, announcing that total expenditure by member states will grow by €70 billion over the next three years."


:lmao trump told these pussies. :lol

[boutons_deux]

USA defense budget provides $800M more for ukr

[Ef-man]

Some truth on this exact matter

Warning this video will burst a lot of fantasy bubbles

YIHRcP3FBLc

Where does he find these losers?! :lmao :lmao

McGregor doing his best hater impression:

"The first five days Russian forces I think frankly were too gentle," he said. "They've now corrected that. So, I would say another 10 days this should be completely over."

"The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over, all of the Ukrainian troops there have been largely surrounded and cut off. You have a concentration down in the Southeast of 30 or 40,000 of them, and if they don't surrender in the next 24 hours, I suspect Russia will ultimately annihilate them."

"Russia will not suffer as a result of our sanctions."

"The war is really over for the Ukrainians...they have been grounded to bits."

https://www.newsweek.com/what-putin-wing-ex-colonel-douglas-macgregor-has-said-about-ukraine-war (https://www.newsweek.com/what-putin-wing-ex-colonel-douglas-macgregor-has-said-about-ukraine-war)

[ElNono]

Easy

He started with 150k which is not enough to do jackshit. So he called 300k more out of which 150k are already in donbas while 150k are still training and reserves.

:lol So basically you're admitting Putler miscalculated badly. That we agree.


Russia has about 300k soldiers in donbas right now with about 150k mobilized reserves plus about 100k volunteers and regular atmy waiting in the wings in Russis and Belarus. Thats about 550k soldiers preparing for a looong war

Now you show me your numbers. How many russians have died? How many ukranians have died?

Niga :lol

^^^ source/link for any of this? I made no claims about deaths on either side. I pointed out that Russia wouldn't need to forcefully draft additional troops if everything was going according to plan.

To any casual observer it clearly isn't, considering that not only they've failed to gain any ground where they're trying to gain ground and also lost substantial amount of ground in the east and south.

[pgardn]

Looks like Ukraine has manufactured their own long range drones. (1000 mile range)
They have presented this to the world by destroying an oil depot deep in Russia.
Moscow is definitely in range. It appears Ukraine has told the US it has no reason to strike Moscow but every reason to strike targets associated with the war. It is suspected that fuel terminals within Russia (have huge nodes) and will be targeted. (Ukraine of course has not denied or confirmed)

This may not only affect military but also civilian abilities to transfer energy. Possibly another reminder to Russians there is a war and more than Russians in Crimea will feel it. Expected retaliation on more civilians within Ukraine. Ukrainians are getting more proficient at shooting down drones and missiles and rebuilding but the suffering is still felt. Also expect more air defense systems given to Ukraine.

I wonder if the Patriot missile system will come into play. We have sold them to Saudi and others in ME and apparently Poland. But not very many. Some technology is being hidden as well in these systems.

[velik_m]

1600581438121852946

Looks like this might be Indian tanks:


Russia ‘stole’ upgraded Indian T-90 tanks to use them in Ukraine

Tanks owned by India are used by the Russian army in the war with Ukraine. Indian journalist Girish Linganna claims this in front of Frontier India. He is a Defense & Aerospace analyst and a Director of ADD Engineering Components [India] Pvt Ltd. This company is a subsidiary of ADD Engineering GmbH, Germany with manufacturing units in Russia.

...

https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2022/10/06/russia-stole-upgraded-indian-t-90-tanks-to-use-them-in-ukraine/

[hater]

Looks like this might be Indian tanks:



https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2022/10/06/russia-stole-upgraded-indian-t-90-tanks-to-use-them-in-ukraine/

:tu

[boutons_deux]

Ukrainian ingenuity is ushering in a new form of warfare at sea

Are uncrewed attack vessels the wave of the future?


https://www.economist.com/img/b/1424/801/90/media-assets/image/20221210_STP003.jpg

usv (uncrewed surface vessel, essentially a drone boat),

A fleet of the things, accompanied by similarly robotic air cover, attacked (https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/10/30/putin-suspends-a-deal-to-allow-grain-exports-from-ukraine) Sevastopol’s naval base, the home port of Russia’s Black Sea fleet.

According to the Ukrainians, and backed up by video footage apparently shot from cameras on board one of the drones, they scored direct hits on Admiral Makarov, the fleet’s flagship, and two other vessels, damaging all three.

That was followed on November 18th by a big explosion at a Russian oil terminal in Novorossiysk, also reported to have been the work of the same type of naval drones.

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2022/12/07/ukrainian-ingenuity-is-ushering-in-a-new-form-of-warfare-at-sea

[velik_m]

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[boutons_deux]

Ukraine's custom drone strikes showed Russia it can hit Moscow, doesn't fear more escalation

Ukraine is believed to have sent three (https://theweek.com/russo-ukrainian-war/1019022/russia-blames-ukraine-for-3rd-drone-strike-on-airbase-in-2-days), maybe four (https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-kyiv-europe-8ade16c890a92e353f11cae01a01e498?utm_source=homepa ge&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_06), modified Soviet-era Tupolev Tu-141 Strizh (Swift) drones deep into Russian territory (https://theweek.com/russo-ukrainian-war/1019002/kremlin-says-ukrainian-drones-targeted-two-russian-air-bases) on Sunday and Monday, targeting airbases being used to attack Ukrainian cities.

Jet-powered Tu-141 surveillance drones, made in the 1970s and 1980s, have a range of up to 620 miles (https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/12/06/world/russia-ukraine-war-news).

The ones used this week were modified by Ukraine, using Ukrainian technology,

"the U.S. secretly modified the advanced HIMARS rocket launchers it gave Ukraine (https://theweek.com/russo-ukrainian-war/1015301/us-is-sending-ukraine-more-himars-rocket-systems-theyre-having-a-huge) so they can't be used to fire long-range missiles into Russia."

https://theweek.com/russo-ukrainian-war/1019083/ukraines-custom-drone-strikes-showed-russia-it-can-hit-moscow-doesnt

Now that UKR is striking into Russia, will USA give UKR un-distance-inhibited HIMARS?

UKR struck only military targets.

[koriwhat]

Fuck Ukraine and Russia!

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1600850044151799808

[spurraider21]

Fuck Ukraine and Russia!
fit of unprovoked rage

[koriwhat]

fit of unprovoked rage

Ah ha it worked! I knew you'd be in here asap with your cliche response. You're easily trolled. We were in another thread about 30 mins ago and I thought, "why not post in the Ukraine thread and see if butt boy SR21 will come crying like always..." And here you are with your shit schtick like always you boot licking sob. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Ah ha it worked! I knew you'd be in here asap with your cliche response. You're easily trolled. We were in another thread about 30 mins ago and I thought, "why not post in the Ukraine thread and see if butt boy SR21 will come crying like always..." And here you are with your shit schtick like always you boot licking sob. :lmaosure

[pgardn]

Fuck Ukraine and Russia!

Fuck commas, and periods.

In depth stuff...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ah ha it worked! I knew you'd be in here asap with your cliche response. You're easily trolled. We were in another thread about 30 mins ago and I thought, "why not post in the Ukraine thread and see if butt boy SR21 will come crying like always..." And here you are with your shit schtick like always you boot licking sob. :lmao

You should be proud, Joey. Your back to being a teenager. Your actions and low intelligence has everyone thinking you are an idiot again!

[hater]

:lol So basically you're admitting Putler miscalculated badly. That we agree.



^^^ source/link for any of this? I made no claims about deaths on either side. I pointed out that Russia wouldn't need to forcefully draft additional troops if everything was going according to plan.

To any casual observer it clearly isn't, considering that not only they've failed to gain any ground where they're trying to gain ground and also lost substantial amount of ground in the east and south.

So u say you have no clue how many died for either side.

Thanks for admitting your complete ignorance about this matter. I will duly note this next time I read your stupidity in this thread.


Carry on :lmao

[hater]

:lmao J:lole

https://twitter.com/EbrahimHashem/status/1600834889271545856

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lmao J:lole

https://twitter.com/EbrahimHashem/status/1600834889271545856

They schmooze all heads of state. They made a parade and public square meeting for Trump and he abandoned Qatar for a few months as a result.

[koriwhat]

Fuck commas, and periods.

In depth stuff...

:lol:tu


You should be proud, Joey. Your back to being a teenager. Your actions and low intelligence has everyone thinking you are an idiot again!

And you are who again? Oh yeah a big pussy on the internet pretending we know each other irl. Fuck off puto! Go bite someone else's ankles you little bitch.

[hater]

They schmooze all heads of state. They made a parade and public square meeting for Trump and he abandoned Qatar for a few months as a result.

"Qatar is abandoned"

Todays libs :lol

[ElNono]

So u say you have no clue how many died for either side.

Thanks for admitting your complete ignorance about this matter. I will duly note this next time I read your stupidity in this thread.

Carry on :lmao

:lol so no source or links to any of your claims?

hater folds again :lmao:lmao:lmao

The irony of you specifically calling anybody else ignorant in this thread :lmao:lmao:lmao

[Ef-man]

Putler's super friends are ghosting him. :lol

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1601243303181135872

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1601122378360139777

[spurraider21]

Ah ha it worked! I knew you'd be in here asap with your cliche response. You're easily trolled. We were in another thread about 30 mins ago and I thought, "why not post in the Ukraine thread and see if butt boy SR21 will come crying like always..." And here you are with your shit schtick like always you boot licking sob. :lmao
Your master plan worked! And now you’ve proven how little you care by telling us all about it!

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1601122378360139777

Whatever it takes :tu

[velik_m]

Russia’s apparent resilience is being kept up by policy tricks and cash

...
Meanwhile the domestic economy has been hit hard by a collapse in the workforce as millions have either fled or been drafted. Official figures show the workforce shrank by 600,000 in October alone, most likely some of the most qualified. That creates a long-term hit both to the demand and supply side of the economy. Retail sales have slumped by 10 per cent, which suggests a far deeper economic contraction than official data claims. So far, the official data shows that unemployment remains remarkably low at just 4 per cent, but this too may be a mirage: even at the end of the second quarter, 13 per cent of the workforce, some 4.3 million people, were subject to part-time, downtime and unpaid leave.
...

https://archive.vn/6EXTd#selection-787.0-787.71

[boutons_deux]

https://archive.vn/6EXTd#selection-787.0-787.71

will the $60 cap on russian oil really make a difference?

I see where Turkey (nato) is sucking up to Pootin

Turkey Is Strengthening Its Energy Ties With Russia (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/09/business/turkey-erdogan-energy-russia.html)
by Patricia Cohen

As Moscow seeks new customers for oil, gas and coal, Ankara is a willing buyer as it promotes plans as a regional trading hub.

-- NY Times

[koriwhat]

Your master plan worked! And now you’ve proven how little you care by telling us all about it!

You're a dumbass bro and you're seriously upset because not everyone subscribes to your cult ideology. It's fucking hilarious and cringey at the same time you weirdo.

If I upset you so much you know you can just walk away and not try to garner more of my attention bro.

[spurraider21]

You're a dumbass bro and you're seriously upset because not everyone subscribes to your cult ideology. It's fucking hilarious and cringey at the same time you weirdo.

If I upset you so much you know you can just walk away and not try to garner more of my attention bro.
your constantly meltdowns and unyielding rage are quite entertaining tbh

[koriwhat]

your constantly meltdowns and unyielding rage are quite entertaining tbh

What meltdowns? Seriously no matter my response you dumbfuck weak sobs will claim it's a "meltdown". Yall do this in order to stroke your egos but the fact of the matter is none of yall matter in the least. It's like posting, "Fuck Ukraine and Russia!", and you crying endlessly that I'm raging just by a simple reply. It's hilarious how much of a pussy you people are and how yall try to project that onto others to stroke your lame ass bloated egos.

As well, what do the partners at your firm think about you on the interwebs all day wasting company time crying to me online?

[ChumpDumper]

What meltdowns?


Seriously no matter my response you dumbfuck weak sobs will claim it's a "meltdown". Yall do this in order to stroke your egos but the fact of the matter is none of yall matter in the least. It's like posting, "Fuck Ukraine and Russia!", and you crying endlessly that I'm raging just by a simple reply. It's hilarious how much of a pussy you people are and how yall try to project that onto others to stroke your lame ass bloated egos.

As well, what do the partners at your firm think about you on the interwebs all day wasting company time crying to me online?

[koriwhat]

I don't read anything you have to say CumDummy. But if you replied yes to me buying you lead then I'm all for it bro. Lets get this show on the road already! The world would be a better place without your ass in it.

[spurraider21]

What meltdowns? Seriously no matter my response you dumbfuck weak sobs will claim it's a "meltdown". Yall do this in order to stroke your egos but the fact of the matter is none of yall matter in the least. It's like posting, "Fuck Ukraine and Russia!", and you crying endlessly that I'm raging just by a simple reply. It's hilarious how much of a pussy you people are and how yall try to project that onto others to stroke your lame ass bloated egos.

As well, what do the partners at your firm think about you on the interwebs all day wasting company time crying to me online?
why do you keep saying i'm raging?!?

one post later

ILL FUCKING MURDER YOU

I don't read anything you have to say CumDummy. But if you replied yes to me buying you lead then I'm all for it bro. Lets get this show on the road already! The world would be a better place without your ass in it.

[koriwhat]

why do you keep saying i'm raging?!?

one post later

ILL FUCKING MURDER YOU

I'll murder no one but I'll def buy yall some lead to do us all a favor already. :tu

You and your hyperbolic feelings are so fucking retarded.

Again, why do you feel the need to garner my attention endlessly? It's like bitchass's getting eBullied; walk the fuck away from the computer you pussy!

[koriwhat]

Are you going to ruin the thread crying to me all day SR21? :cry

[ChumpDumper]

I'll murder no one but I'll def buy yall some lead to do us all a favor already. :tu

You and your hyperbolic feelings are so fucking retarded.

Again, why do you feel the need to garner my attention endlessly? It's like bitchass's getting eBullied; walk the fuck away from the computer you pussy!


What meltdowns?

TBF he just wants me to kill myself. He wants to murder anyone he invites to his place of work.

[koriwhat]

I find it funny how so many of you "hate" me here yet yall go out of yalls way to endlessly garner my attention. Yall "dudes" are fucking weird af!

[ChumpDumper]

I find it funny how so many of you "hate" me here yet yall go out of yalls way to endlessly garner my attention. Yall "dudes" are fucking weird af!We find your impotent unprovoked rage amusing.

[horseshue]

https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1601533455669788672
Putler is 1.68m or 5-5 in american. But somehow he found even smaller midgets. :lol

[pgardn]

https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1601533455669788672
Putler is 1.68m or 5-5 in american. But somehow he found even smaller midgets. :lol

And look who stepped closer to the camera…. “I am a 70 yo midget”

[velik_m]

Bulgaria to send first military aid package to Ukraine

Bulgarian MPs have approved the country's first military assistance package to Ukraine involving a classified list of weapons prepared by the government.

The National Assembly voted 148-46 with one abstention in favour of the weapons to Kyiv following months of political squabbling on the issue in the Balkan NATO member state.

Bulgaria previously agreed to repair Ukrainian military equipment at its factories but refused to send weapons directly due to opposition from President Rumen Radev and the country's Moscow-friendly political parties.

Along with Hungary, Bulgaria was the only European Union member country to initially refuse to give Ukraine weapons following Russia's invasion.

While the full list of weapons remains classified, cabinet members told reporters ahead of the vote that the package included small arms and ammunition.

Defence Minister Dimitar Stoyanov said in a TV interview that the aid "is fully aligned with Ukraine's priorities" but added that Bulgaria will neither provide S-300 missile systems nor MiG-29s fighter jets.

Politicians also ratified an agreement between the defence ministries of Bulgaria and Ukraine on the transfer of armaments, equipment and ammunition.

The agreement includes the training of up to 60 personnel from Ukraine's armed forces as combat medics.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-latest-putin-gives-rare-update-on-status-of-war-as-kyiv-says-russia-launched-1-000-strikes-on-power-grid-12541713?postid=5034867#liveblog-body

[velik_m]

1601317830557052929

[koriwhat]

Putler is 1.68m or 5-5 in american. But somehow he found even smaller midgets. :lol

I'm no Putin fan but he did bully old 6ft Traitor Joe into giving up the Merchant of Death for some YMCA holdout.

[velik_m]

EU to circumvent Hungary’s veto of €18 billion aid to Ukraine in 2023

EU member states reached an agreement on Saturday to unblock an €18 billion package of financial aid to Ukraine for next year.

The countries have circumvented a veto by Hungary, which has kept aid to Ukraine blocked as blackmail so that its European partners would not freeze its recovery funds because of rule-of-law breaches.

"Ukraine can count on the EU. We will continue to support Ukraine also financially, for as long as it takes," said the EU Council in a statement.

The proposal was adopted by the Council. And it will be submitted to the European Parliament for its possible adoption next week, the statement said.

Hungary is on the verge of having €7.5 billion of its allocated share of the EU budget frozen after failing to complete a series of reforms meant to address, among other issues, corruption, irregularities in public procurement and conflicts of interest from government officials.

https://www.euronews.com/2022/12/10/eu-to-circumvent-hungarys-veto-of-18-billion-aid-to-ukraine-in-2023

[velik_m]

1601671273452822528

[DeadlyDynasty]

Airfields hit in occupied Sevastopol and Simferopol as well.

[pgardn]

Interesting article on Poland and Germany differences concerning Ukraine

Should be free:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/10/world/europe/poland-germany-ukraine-patriots-missiles.html

[horseshue]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1601718795290431488

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[velik_m]

The U.S. military has sent threat emitters, built to replicate aircraft and weapons for American pilots in training, to Ukraine to confuse Russian aircraft

https://en.defence-ua.com/news/ukrainian_defenders_receives_from_the_usa_a_new_te hnological_decition-5109.html

[horseshue]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1601923867068583937
Instead of paris, london or berlin now ruzzians travel to central asia. :lol At least they don't have to deal with gender neutral toilets. :lmao

[pgardn]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1601923867068583937
Instead of paris, london or berlin now ruzzians travel to central asia. :lol At least they don't have to deal with gender neutral toilets. :lmao

“Wanna Get Away”

Probably one way.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1601923867068583937
Instead of paris, london or berlin now ruzzians travel to central asia. :lol At least they don't have to deal with gender neutral toilets. :lmao

:tu

[hater]

Frontline report by Russell Texas Bentley :tu

pqpom1nyZcg

[boutons_deux]

Ukraine war: Animal eye packages sent to embassies 'from German address'

Suspicious or threatening packages sent to Ukrainian diplomatic missions all had the same sender address -

a Tesla dealership in Germany

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63889794?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63889794?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA)

[pgardn]

Frontline report by Russell Texas Bentley :tu

pqpom1nyZcg

Dont stop believing Tex...
Itll only make it easier on Ukraine.

[velik_m]

1601834444284903424

[Winehole23]

The embedded thread on Russian meal kits is gruesome and hilarious.

1602028485454725120

1602029779527540742

1602042016107577344

[hater]

Amazing interview. Col Macgreggor and Michael Vlahos. Must watch:

zIIM043x_FI

[hater]

India will start using the rupee in trade settlements with Russia starting next week, local media outlets reported on Monday, citing the head of the Federation of Indian Export Organizations (FIEO), Ajay Sahai.

The two nations will be testing a new payment mechanism for the first time since it was approved by the State Bank of India, a state-owned commercial bank, in September.

[Ef-man]

So much for russians using gas supply as a weapon. :lol

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1602287569340882947

[hater]

US Mozart Group which is a copycat Paramilitary Org tonthe Russian Wagner group pretends its only in Ukraine for humanitary purposes :lol they have been getting their asses kicked last few weeks so the Mozart leader has said they might leave Ukraine in a few months :lol

He also admitted:

"Yes Ukraine has been losing 70% soldiers in Bakhmut. They are having big trouble replenishing their dead. Its a meatgrinder"

"80% of the Ukranian conscripts they receive to train HAVE NEVER FIRED A GUN" :lol

Also seems Biden White House is considering giving cluster bombs to Ukraine :lol

Winnnnnnnimg :lmao. So much winnnning


TLyXoCzNXcY

[hater]

Col Richard Black: "Ukraine is losing as many men per DAY as US lost per MONTH in Vietnam" :wow

"Ukranians are being ground to hamburger meat" :cry

Time for peacetalks


https://twitter.com/Navsteva/status/1601756111115145216

[pgardn]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/10/russia-ukraine-war-bakhmut-meat-grinder-deadlock

Ukrainians have the technical advantage but Russians persist in sacrificing troops to take an area with no strategic value

[hater]

Ukranian Nazis break into Orthodox Churches in Ukraine and attack Parishioners

Fucking scumbuckets

https://t.me/Dugin_Aleksandr/6483

[pgardn]

Ukranian Nazis break into Orthodox Churches in Ukraine and attack Parishioners

Fucking scumbuckets

https://t.me/Dugin_Aleksandr/6483

hater now reduced to telegram instead of Utube.

[hater]

Peace activis Medea Benjamin speaks Ukraine Truths..


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[Ef-man]

Speaking of Wagner.

https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1602340098619674629

[hater]

:lmao N:lolt:lol

https://twitter.com/newsgercek/status/1602040494074339330

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao N:lolt:lol

https://twitter.com/newsgercek/status/1602040494074339330

What's the funny part?

[spurraider21]

What's the funny part?
hater loves it when civilians die because of unnecessary aggression

[hater]

For the retards and brainless dumbasses:

:lmao alliance members threatening to destroy each others capitals :lmao

N:lolt:lol

[ChumpDumper]

For the retards and brainless dumbasses:

:lmao alliance members threatening to destroy each others capitals :lmao

N:lolt:lolWhere is the actual threat, hater?

[hater]

Where is the actual threat, hater?

In Erdogans words ya deuche :lol

[ChumpDumper]

In Erdogans words ya deuche :lolWhich particular words were the direct threat to Greece?

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1601513112867606528

[DeadlyDynasty]

For the retards and brainless dumbasses:

:lmao alliance members threatening to destroy each others capitals :lmao

N:lolt:lol
What is your prediction on how this will play out? Let us know so we can just laugh at you again when your takes inevitably go to shit:lmao

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1602437542774726658

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1602328405307183106

[pgardn]

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1602328405307183106

Hater says Z is actually an alternative peace symbol.

[Ef-man]

Hater says Z is actually an alternative peace symbol.

And do not forget all the alternate love they receive around the world. :lol

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1602351739100962822

[DMX7]

The embedded thread on Russian meal kits is gruesome and hilarious.

1602042016107577344

I nearly puked twice just scrolling through that thread. Not even fit for a third-world army.

[koriwhat]

Hater says Z is actually an alternative peace symbol.

Wtf is a z swastika?

[horseshue]

Wtf is a z swastika?

Google it. You can't be that stupid. :idiot

[hater]

What is your prediction on how this will play out? Let us know so we can just laugh at you again when your takes inevitably go to shit:lmao

This will be a lomg war. Attrition tbqh

What about you. When is Crimea getting retaken? :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Ef-man]

Google it. You can't be that stupid. :idiot

Calf-tats never completed 11th grade, so yes, he is that stupid.

[velik_m]

Exclusive: US finalizing plans to send Patriot missile defense system to Ukraine

The Biden administration is finalizing plans to send the Patriot missile defense system to Ukraine that could be announced as soon as this week, according to two US officials and a senior administration official.

The Pentagon’s plan still needs to be approved by Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin before it is sent to President Joe Biden for his signature. The three officials told CNN that approval is expected.

...

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/13/politics/us-patriot-missile-defense-system-ukraine/index.html

[horseshue]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1602657423122112512

[DMX7]

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/13/politics/us-patriot-missile-defense-system-ukraine/index.html

Those things are extremely expensive but it's not like we've got $30 trillion of debt to service. Oh wait...

[hater]

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/13/politics/us-patriot-missile-defense-system-ukraine/index.html

Lol shitty patriots

Why we keep giving Ukros our trash???

[boutons_deux]

Group of 7 held a virtual meeting invited Zelensky,

confirmed G7 supports UKR with whatever it takes.

[spurraider21]

Why we keep giving Ukros our trash???
are you referring to all those abandoned russian tanks?