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[Ef-man]

Damn!!!

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1696733696022270215

Damn

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[DeadlyDynasty]

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I don't know this, Deads. Is this GOOD, or, BAD for Russia?

[DMX7]

I didn't quote it because you had quoted it and that is ho vbulletin has always worker. It also was nothing that you wrote. I was responding to your words. Your words were forever war and Korea is an example of how that works out.

What did we do in the first two years of the Korean conflict? What was the state of the aid we gave to Seoul as hostility ceased? I'll give you a hint: their economy as smaller than N Korea's at that point.

And now 70 years later it has become a very profitable situation for both parties. Korea is an excellent example. You would have the Kims control the entire peninsula 70 years ago just like you would have Russia occupy all of Ukraine.

What? More strawman arguments from you...

I never said or suggested we shouldn't have fought in the Korean War if that's what you mean by "you would have the Kims control the entire peninsula 70 years ago".

I've also never said I would have "Russia occupy all of Ukraine". Russia isn't capable of occupying all of Ukraine. How many millions of soldiers would that take? But regardless, I would support Europe leading an effort to provide Ukraine what is necessary to defend the territory Ukraine controls now if they agree to a ceasefire now. That would mean some US support, but it would be MUCH LESS than would be necessary in an open hot conflict like we have now. A ceasefire would mean they could use the resources they have in reserve and what is provided by aid to fortify what they control and discourage another attack.

[clambake]

Agree to a ceasefire with who?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm fine with spending the money we are spending to basically exhaust Russia's military capabilities. The surest way, almost the only way to lose is to give up.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I don't know this, Deads. Is this GOOD, or, BAD for Russia?
Not good for Russia or any of the BRICS members. Shady alliances with countries that all distrust and hate each other fractionally less than the West will probably not end well.

[hater]

:lol

https://twitter.com/esCesarVidal/status/1696911666506555618

[hater]

:lmao :lol :lmao


https://twitter.com/RGauche/status/1605811265527586817

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1696901645131481259?t

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[hater]

"Give me 5 billion to celebrate democracy"


:lmao

https://twitter.com/DrLoupis/status/1696760895727100369

[ChumpDumper]

"Give me 5 billion to celebrate democracy"


:lmao

https://twitter.com/DrLoupis/status/1696760895727100369

Makes perfect sense when you actually hear what he says.:tu

[daboom1]

"Give me 5 billion to celebrate democracy"


:lmao

https://twitter.com/DrLoupis/status/1696760895727100369

Lindsey loves him some war mongering, he's a real POS just like Z.

[ChumpDumper]

Lindsey loves him some war mongering, he's a real POS just like Z.Putin invaded Ukraine.

Are you going to call Putin a warmonger?

:lol no, you aren't.

[clambake]

These people in here can’t be the best that republicans have to offer, right?

[hater]

Lindsey loves him some war mongering, he's a real POS just like Z.

Lindsey also likes dick :lol

[daboom1]

Lindsey also likes dick :lol

Probably just like Obama and Big Mike.

[hater]

:lmao Joe running from yet another US embasy :lmao :lmao :lmao

What is it the 7th? 8th? In 4 years?

You cant make this shit up :lol


https://twitter.com/BenFRubinstein/status/1696938230107574603

[velik_m]

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[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Joe running from yet another US embasy :lmao :lmao :lmao

What is it the 7th? 8th? In 4 years?

You cant make this shit up :lol


https://twitter.com/BenFRubinstein/status/1696938230107574603
:rollin you can't read

[DeadlyDynasty]

Drone strikes in Bryansk as well as Feodosia, Crimea. Still no word if they used beaver drones or empty Papa Johns boxes

[koriwhat]

Fuck Ukraine!

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1696958310098849920

[Ef-man]

Poor China

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1696505241934434628

[hater]

Fuck Ukraine!

:lol

[hater]

:lmao NATO

https://twitter.com/IntelDoge/status/1696953478524846111

[DMX7]

Agree to a ceasefire with who?

Russia. They're practically begging for one.

[koriwhat]

Russia. They're practically begging for one.

Good ol' Biden and the commies put shit head Boris Johnson up to the task to end all peace talks early on.

[DMX7]

"Give me 5 billion to celebrate democracy"

Get used to these kinds of requests. I already am.

[hater]

Russia. They're practically begging for one.

Russia will do a short ceasefire for negotiations to take place. Which would mostly be a Ukranian surrender. But they wont do a long cease fire or frozen conflict

They tried that shit from 2014-2022. Misnk 2. It was all a NATO ploy as Angela Merkel said.

Russian people would hang Putin from the top of the Kremlin if he does that again.

[clambake]

Russia. They're practically begging for one.

Any chance you can provide examples of said begging?

You know, where we see and hear the begging?

[DMX7]

Any chance you can provide examples of said begging?

You know, where we see and hear the begging?

Moscow Times (which is not state media) Reports:


“No one wants to negotiate with Russia,” President Vladimir Putin has complained several times on camera in recent days. He would like to reach a peace agreement or a ceasefire, he claims, but there are no negotiations.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/08/04/why-there-will-be-no-negotiating-with-putin-a82021

[hater]

:lmao N:lolt:lol

https://twitter.com/dana916/status/1696978557509976066?s=20

[clambake]

Moscow Times (which is not state media) Reports:



https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/08/04/why-there-will-be-no-negotiating-with-putin-a82021
Hmmm I kinda don’t buy any of that, but outside of empty offers I would suggest that he could just leave Ukraine.

[clambake]

Hmmm also going to need reparations for this unprovoked invasion.

[hater]

Hmmm also going to need reparations for this unprovoked invasion.

:lmao

[daboom1]

Hmmm also going to need reparations for this unprovoked invasion.

Bend over, I'll show you reparations for unprovoked invasions.

[ChumpDumper]

Russia. They're practically begging for one.Good. Fuck Russia.

[ChumpDumper]

Moscow Times (which is not state media) Reports:



https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/08/04/why-there-will-be-no-negotiating-with-putin-a82021

The difficulty lies in the fact that negotiations with Putin are currently pointless because he cannot make any meaningful commitments. He can make promises in words, but in reality, these promises are worthless. Over his 20-year rule, he has promised practically everything — his signature is on the border treaty with Ukraine, for example. And he violated all of it. Over the past two years, he has broken almost every promise he made. Again, Putin himself may not even know about this. I suspect it would be a terrible risk for his subordinates to remind him of what he said a month, a year, or even a week ago. But everyone else knows that he breaks all of his promises. No matter how pragmatic and cynical a negotiator might be, what is the point of such negotiations?

Thanks for the link. Now you can understand Finland's reasoning.:tu

[ElNono]

Some here seem to think Putin wants the war to go on for years more. Because apparently he hasn't taken enough casualties already?

Putin got what he wanted. Our focus should be on ending the war and having Europe lead the effort to defend territory still controlled by Ukraine. We can then scale back our support.

Why would we want to appease Putler and what he wants? He did start this in 2014 and given the lack of pushback then, he went on the offensive again.

And no, Putler didn't get what he wanted. He wanted the US and NATO to fold like a cheap lawn chair, which is exactly what you're suggesting they do. But they haven't and won't, and that's having costly repercussions in Russia. There's also geopolitics at play here, not just money.

Heck, the US is getting a major bang for the buck here, considering they haven't had to put troops on the ground.

[hater]

Bend over, I'll show you reparations for unprovoked invasions.

:lol

[hater]

Good. Fuck Russia.

"Crimea by Fall"


:lmao

[hater]

Why would we want to appease Putler and what he wants? He did start this in 2014 and given the lack of pushback then, he went on the offensive again.

And no, Putler didn't get what he wanted. He wanted the US and NATO to fold like a cheap lawn chair, which is exactly what you're suggesting they do. But they haven't and won't, and that's having costly repercussions in Russia. There's also geopolitics at play here, not just money.

Heck, the US is getting a major bang for the buck here, considering they haven't had to put troops on the ground.

"Crimea by Fall"

:lol :lol

[clambake]

Why would we want to appease Putler and what he wants? He did start this in 2014 and given the lack of pushback then, he went on the offensive again.

And no, Putler didn't get what he wanted. He wanted the US and NATO to fold like a cheap lawn chair, which is exactly what you're suggesting they do. But they haven't and won't, and that's having costly repercussions in Russia. There's also geopolitics at play here, not just money.

Heck, the US is getting a major bang for the buck here, considering they haven't had to put troops on the ground.
Remember when trump said putin’s a good guy and that he wasn’t a fan of NATO?

…………and trump tried to extort Ukraine?

…..and putin invaded Ukraine?

[hater]

Remember when trump said putin’s a good guy and that he wasn’t a fan of NATO?

…………and trump tried to extort Ukraine?

…..and putin invaded Ukraine?

He invaded because Joe was in charge

:lol

[clambake]

He invaded because Joe was in charge

:lol

Uh oh

That means it’s wrong if you said it

[hater]

Uh oh

That means it’s wrong if you said it

As I said he tried to make a deal for 8 years (minsk 2)

He tried to make a deal last minute (european security framework)

He tried to make a deal at sword lenght (kiev surrounded) and like all other times NATO told Ukraine no deal.

So he invaded.

So no. Not wrong.

A mistake? Maybe. But so far. Not even a mistake.

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[clambake]

As I said he tried to make a deal for 8 years (minsk 2)

He tried to make a deal last minute (european security framework)

He tried to make a deal at sword lenght (kiev surrounded) and like all other times NATO told Ukraine no deal.

So he invaded.

So no. Not wrong.

A mistake? Maybe. But so far. Not even a mistake.
Fucked around and, well, you know.

He begged for years.

Nothing too low for you

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[clambake]

Another interesting aspect to this is how hater and dmx7 both used the term “begging” just now

Must be influencing the “oh poor Putin” angle on the webs


Poor misunderstood begging

[ChumpDumper]

"Crimea by Fall"


:lmao

"all of Ukraine in 3-5 days"

-- hater

:lmao

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"all of Ukraine in 3-5 days"

-- hater

:lmao

20% in 18 months including the Zap Nuclear Plant & the water in the South..

[ElNono]

"Crimea by Fall"

:lol :lol

:lmao still making shit up
:lmao 3-5 days
:lmao roads

[ChumpDumper]

He invaded because Joe was in charge

:lol

"Putin will not invade Ukraine."

--hater

:lmao

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20% in 18 months including the Zap Nuclear Plant & the water in the South..

[hater]

20% in 18 months including the Zap Nuclear Plant & the water in the South..

Melitopol, mariupol, bakhmut, crimea


20% of europes largest country by far while whithstanding worst economic war in history.

Not even Nazi germany had those kind of sanctions.

Ford was still dealing with hitler till last minute.

Ce la vi

[hater]

:lmao still making shit up
:lmao 3-5 days
:lmao roads

"Crimea by Fall is now a made up meme"



:lmao :lmao

Todays Salvadorian historians :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

"Crimea by Fall is now a made up meme"



:lmao :lmao

Todays Salvadorian historians :lmao
:lmao your history of being personally wrong

[hater]

:lmao your history of being personally wrong

"Budanov predicted on Sept. 30, 2022, that the Ukrainian Armed Forces would enter Crimea by the end of Spring 2023."

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-reclaim-crimea-other-occupied-153000109.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAoP5eZhMqkvBxEnL2vQbzPtt2wO ZpDdTco3uVUsQfBD6Hb9TFPgNj2Ugx8NCmeDn91uhKI0GyH5eC O5bfibdvFZiqPGQqQwg29VlMlFrbHTKtyFsWJdcX__Uhe-4y-adbm9bymJP1xwu9N3CeCYYsJGS6XwFsfKyWQZXbSG7gb_

Wikipedia:
"Kyrylo Oleksiyovych Budanov (Ukrainian: Кирило Олексійович Буданов; born 4 January 1986) is a Ukrainian military leader who is the chief of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine since August 2020.[1"



:lmao

Chimpistan loves to get assfucked in here :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

"Budanov predicted on Sept. 30, 2022, that the Ukrainian Armed Forces would enter Crimea by the end of Spring 2023."

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-reclaim-crimea-other-occupied-153000109.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAoP5eZhMqkvBxEnL2vQbzPtt2wO ZpDdTco3uVUsQfBD6Hb9TFPgNj2Ugx8NCmeDn91uhKI0GyH5eC O5bfibdvFZiqPGQqQwg29VlMlFrbHTKtyFsWJdcX__Uhe-4y-adbm9bymJP1xwu9N3CeCYYsJGS6XwFsfKyWQZXbSG7gb_

Wikipedia:
"Kyrylo Oleksiyovych Budanov (Ukrainian: Кирило Олексійович Буданов; born 4 January 1986) is a Ukrainian military leader who is the chief of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine since August 2020.[1"



:lmao

Chimpistan loves to get assfucked in here :lmao

I didn't say no one ever said that.

I said no one here ever said that.

You said Putin would not invade.

You said Kyiv would be conquered in 3-5 days.

How do you live with being that wrong, hater?

[koriwhat]

Burn it all down already so no more of our tax dollars have to be laundered back into Biden and his cronies pockets.

[ChumpDumper]

lol koriwut cares

[DMX7]

Why would we want to appease Putler and what he wants? He did start this in 2014 and given the lack of pushback then, he went on the offensive again.

And no, Putler didn't get what he wanted. He wanted the US and NATO to fold like a cheap lawn chair, which is exactly what you're suggesting they do. But they haven't and won't, and that's having costly repercussions in Russia. There's also geopolitics at play here, not just money.

Heck, the US is getting a major bang for the buck here, considering they haven't had to put troops on the ground.

Even if we write a blank check to help Ukraine totally humiliate Russia by kicking it 100% out of Ukraine, a major risk remains that Russia then rearms and tries to take Crimea and the Donbas again.

But I don't think most Americans think doing anything like that is bang for the buck.

In fact, the latest CNN polling showed most Americans think we've already done enough in Ukraine. There's no clear end game here that justifies the cost being proposed IMO. It seems like it's just throwing money at the problem and hoping for the best. That's rarely good strategy, if ever.

[ChumpDumper]

Even if we write a blank check to help Ukraine totally humiliate Russia by kicking it 100% out of Ukraine, a major risk remains that Russia then rearms and tries to take Crimea and the Donbas again.

But I don't think most Americans think doing anything like that is bang for the buck.

In fact, the latest CNN polling showed most Americans think we've already done enough in Ukraine. There's no clear end game here that justifies the cost being proposed IMO. It seems like it's just throwing money at the problem and hoping for the best. That's rarely good strategy, if ever.

Roll over and let Putin do whatever he wants. That always works out great for everyone.

[hater]

I didn't say no one ever said that.

I said no one here ever said that.

You said Putin would not invade.

You said Kyiv would be conquered in 3-5 days.

How do you live with being that wrong, hater?

U had no idea who said it. I had to educate your ignorant ass :lol

Chumpanzee :lol

[hater]

Roll over and let Putin do whatever he wants. That always works out great for everyone.

"Whatever he wants" :lol


Russia is losing badly :lol

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Roll over and let Putin do whatever he wants. That always works out great for everyone.

& if Trump were still President you'd be siding Putin.

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Even if we write a blank check to help Ukraine totally humiliate Russia by kicking it 100% out of Ukraine, a major risk remains that Russia then rearms and tries to take Crimea and the Donbas again.

But I don't think most Americans think doing anything like that is bang for the buck.

In fact, the latest CNN polling showed most Americans think we've already done enough in Ukraine. There's no clear end game here that justifies the cost being proposed IMO. It seems like it's just throwing money at the problem and hoping for the best. That's rarely good strategy, if ever.

Biden ain't lettin' go, 7. No way.
& neither is Putin going to let go. No way.

Let us proceed...

[DMX7]

Roll over and let Putin do whatever he wants. That always works out great for everyone.

He never paid a major price for his actions before. This time he did.

Anyway... sanctions, reparations and other punishments can remain on the table.

[daboom1]

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He never paid a major price for his actions before. This time he did.

Anyway... sanctions, reparations and other punishments can remain on the table.

What price, 7? He's taken 20% of Ukraine, their Zap nuclear plant and the water in the south.

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Melitopol, mariupol, bakhmut, crimea


20% of europes largest country by far while whithstanding worst economic war in history.

Not even Nazi germany had those kind of sanctions.

Ford was still dealing with hitler till last minute.

Ce la vi

hater

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1696784537085264230

[Ef-man]

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[DMX7]

"Whatever he wants" :lol


Russia is losing badly :lol

Chumpdumper is not the one going to the trenches, but they are and they don't really want to...

BBC News: Ukraine is struggling to meet its demand for soldiers.


The way Kyiv conscripts men has been accused of being corrupt at its core.

President Volodymyr Zelensky has sacked every regional head of recruitment in Ukraine after widespread allegations against officers in the system, including bribe-taking and intimidation.
The family of one military draft chief in Odesa were even accused recently of buying cars and property on Spain's southern coast costing millions of dollars. The officer reportedly denies any knowledge of this.

Defence officials have told the BBC the alleged offences are "shameful and unacceptable".

Mobilisation is why most men under 60 can't leave Ukraine. Thousands often try to sneak out of the country, mostly across the Carpathian mountains to Romania.

For those who stay, mass group chats help them avoid being drafted. Telegram threads give tip-offs on where drafting officers are patrolling. There are chats for different regions and cities across the country, sometimes with more than 100,000 members each.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66542065

[clambake]

Ask both sides about difficulties securing soldiers.

Just remember that one side is fighting for their right to exist.




You can’t seem to grasp the difference

[hater]

Chumpdumper is not the one going to the trenches, but they are and they don't really want to...

BBC News: Ukraine is struggling to meet its demand for soldiers.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66542065

Well thats what happens when a country goes on their 6th or 7th Mobilization.

The phrase bottom of the barrel fits here. A country can probably have 2 or 3 good armies via 3,4,5 mobilizations.

But by the time you get to the 6th, 7th, etc. The quality of the soldiers drops by miles. And their enthusiasm.

Sadly Ukraine is relying nore and more on Azov army to stand between their men in the front lines and the rear. And shoot anyone who wi try to retreat.

Its a very sad situation. And NATO is one of the main culprits.

[DMX7]

Just remember that one side is fighting for their right to exist.


Not anymore. Ukraine is fighting for territory now. You refuse to accept that which is why you reject a ceasefire.

[hater]

Ask both sides about difficulties securing soldiers.

Just remember that one side is fighting for their right to exist.




You can’t seem to grasp the difference

Very easy. Surrender.

Swear to:
- treat russians in ukraine like normal citizens
- revert the ban on russian language, culture and religion
- stay neutral
- ban neo nazism (includin banderites)
- dismantle army
- remove all nato weapons
- accept new russian territories as russian

They do that and they can exist happily and peacefully

[clambake]

You guys make terrible decisions.

Weird that you two guys do that, using the same wording trying to convince people to feel sympathy for putin.




Same clown school?

[ElNono]

"Crimea by Fall is now a made up meme"

:lmao :lmao

Todays Salvadorian historians :lmao

Nobody here claimed "Crimea by fall"... on the other hand, "3-5 days" and "roads" are quotables :lmao:lmao:lmao

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You guys make terrible decisions.

Weird that you two guys do that, using the same wording trying to convince people to feel sympathy for putin.




Same clown school?

I don't give a good shit if you feel sympathy for putin. How could you? He took 20% of an entire country including their Nuclear Plant and southern water. If Canada did that to the U.S., you'd be beside yourself with anger & grief.

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Nobody here claimed "Crimea by fall"... on the other hand, "3-5 days" and "roads" are quotables :lmao:lmao:lmao

Horseshit!!! "Crimea by fall." was a standard stock cry of your side, sonny-boy.

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Very easy. Surrender.

Swear to:
- treat russians in ukraine like normal citizens
- revert the ban on russian language, culture and religion
- stay neutral
- ban neo nazism (includin banderites)
- dismantle army
- remove all nato weapons
- accept new russian territories as russian

They do that and they can exist happily and peacefully

Z will have to clear it thru Biden, Blinken & CNN first. Z doesn't fart that they don't clear it first.

& they'll never clear thatPERIOD

[ElNono]

Even if we write a blank check to help Ukraine totally humiliate Russia by kicking it 100% out of Ukraine, a major risk remains that Russia then rearms and tries to take Crimea and the Donbas again.

As history has shown repeatedly with Russia, they just can't handle, economically and politically, a protracted war of attrition. Their economy has been going to shit for a while now, and, IMHO, it won't get any better unless their endgame is to become a colony of China.


But I don't think most Americans think doing anything like that is bang for the buck.

In fact, the latest CNN polling showed most Americans think we've already done enough in Ukraine. There's no clear end game here that justifies the cost being proposed IMO. It seems like it's just throwing money at the problem and hoping for the best. That's rarely good strategy, if ever.

That poll broke evenly on ideological lines, and was largely within the margin of error. Not to mention that polling has been largely garbage the past decade or so.

But, regardless, the bang for the buck is not even a matter of opinion. It's actually a fact that our aid is infinitesimal compared to our extended incursions in Iraq and Afghanistan. And when it comes to the cost of American lives, it's not even close.

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As history has shown repeatedly with Russia, they just can't handle, economically and politically, a protracted war of attrition. Their economy has been going to shit for a while now, and, IMHO, it won't get any better unless their endgame is to become a colony of China.



That poll broke evenly on ideological lines, and was largely within the margin of error. Not to mention that polling has been largely garbage the past decade or so.

But, regardless, the bang for the buck is not even a matter of opinion. It's actually a fact that our aid is infinitesimal compared to our extended incursions in Iraq and Afghanistan. And when it comes to the cost of American lives, it's not even close.

We ain't exactly king shit of turd island in that scope as well. We spent over 20 years in Afghan and fled with our hair on fire and Biden out at Dover as the last 13 children came back in body bags, him standing their watching his watch as they stepped from the plane, El.

[ElNono]

Not anymore. Ukraine is fighting for territory now. You refuse to accept that which is why you reject a ceasefire.

False. Putler's "negotiations" including any ceasefire is not worth the paper it's printed on. Ukraine knows, they've negotiated with Putler before.

[ElNono]

Very easy. Surrender.

Swear to:
- treat russians in ukraine like normal citizens
- revert the ban on russian language, culture and religion
- stay neutral
- ban neo nazism (includin banderites)
- dismantle army
- remove all nato weapons
- accept new russian territories as russian

They do that and they can exist happily and peacefully

:lol why would they surrender, they've been kicking Rusky's asses for a while now. With Russia's economic struggles is only gonna get worse, considering they're largely a poor country already.

[daboom1]

Horseshit!!! "Crimea by fall." was a standard stock cry of your side, sonny-boy.

yep

[daboom1]

Z will have to clear it thru Biden, Blinken & CNN first. Z doesn't fart that they don't clear it first.

& they'll never clear thatPERIOD

yep ^^^^^

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:lol why would they surrender, they've been kicking Rusky's asses for a while now. With Russia's economic struggles is only gonna get worse, considering they're largely a poor country already.


How? Russia has possession of 20% of Ukraine including their Nuclear Plant and southern water. "You've been rollin' fags in the Village again, haven't you?"

[DMX7]

But, regardless, the bang for the buck is not even a matter of opinion. It's actually a fact that our aid is infinitesimal compared to our extended incursions in Iraq and Afghanistan. And when it comes to the cost of American lives, it's not even close.

"Bang for the buck" is of course an opinion because it requires subjective takes on what value we're getting for our money spent. I see diminishing returns. You apparently don't.

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"Bang for the buck" is of course an opinion because it requires subjective takes on what value we're getting for our money spent. I see diminishing returns. You apparently don't.

...because neither side of 50+ countries involved in this war will tell the/a truth since about 30 days after this started up. & never will again.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What? More strawman arguments from you...

I never said or suggested we shouldn't have fought in the Korean War if that's what you mean by "you would have the Kims control the entire peninsula 70 years ago".

I've also never said I would have "Russia occupy all of Ukraine". Russia isn't capable of occupying all of Ukraine. How many millions of soldiers would that take? But regardless, I would support Europe leading an effort to provide Ukraine what is necessary to defend the territory Ukraine controls now if they agree to a ceasefire now. That would mean some US support, but it would be MUCH LESS than would be necessary in an open hot conflict like we have now. A ceasefire would mean they could use the resources they have in reserve and what is provided by aid to fortify what they control and discourage another attack.

You said you did not want a forever war. Year 2 of the Korean conflict you would have had us abandon Seoul for fear of a forever war.

We were spending more of our GDP. We actually had Americans dying in the conflict. There was no apparent end in sight for the conflict which bears out now 70 years later.

Without NATO support, the Russian armored columns would have ran all over UKR forces, their close air support would run unimpeded with Hind and Su-29 flying sorties with no recourse, and they would starve because of an effective naval blockade.

Sure there might be partisan warfare but you are a fool if you do not think the Russians and their million man army could not garrsion the major population centers in Ukraine and institute their pogroms and resettlements programs.

You are naïve as fuck if you think Russia would agree to a ceasefire without NATO support.

[clambake]

Gee, the more I think about it, the more sympathy I have

[DMX7]

False. Putler's "negotiations" including any ceasefire is not worth the paper it's printed on. Ukraine knows, they've negotiated with Putler before.

A ceasefire today makes sense because it's not really based on trust or good faith (Putin has none) but instead its durability would be more a product of the present circumstances. What I mean by this is that Russia has what it wanted most which is Crimea and the land bridge and cost/benefit ratio of pushing much deeper into Ukraine is terrible for Russia. So why would they try to go deeper at this point?

[clambake]

Sucker

[DMX7]

You said you did not want a forever war. Year 2 of the Korean conflict you would have had us abandon Seoul for fear of a forever war.

I made a specific reference to Zelensky's apparent plan for a forever war in Ukraine. You've simply made up all this shit about my take on the Korean War.

And I already made clear I mostly supported the aid we already gave, and that my concern is about the huge cost and diminishing returns on what is being proposed for future aid.

if you think Russia is "taking Kiev" with the current state of its army, then you're naïve as fuck.

[ElNono]

"Bang for the buck" is of course an opinion because it requires subjective takes on what value we're getting for our money spent. I see diminishing returns. You apparently don't.

Unless you value American lives at zero, there's not much to discuss here. Plus on the economics side, if there's one thing the crippling sanctions are doing is making America a ton of money from things like exported NG.

Since you also brought Taiwan before, this is exactly where geopolitics go. China is also looking at how damaging is can be to tempt fate against America and it's allies.


A ceasefire today makes sense because it's not really based on trust or good faith (Putin has none) but instead its durability would be more a product of the present circumstances. What I mean by this is that Russia has what it wanted most which is Crimea and the land bridge and cost/benefit ratio of pushing much deeper into Ukraine is terrible for Russia. So why would they try to go deeper at this point?

There's no such thing as a ceasefire without mutual trust that it's going to be abided to by the parts. Funny you mention what would Russia do, considering they've been doing political destabilization prior to 2014 and went ahead with full blown invasion shortly after. Just take a look al Modova next door.

IMHO, this conflict isn't going anywhere until the floor falls from under Putler, much like it happened to Russia in the '90s. Which would be a great thing for Russians in general and the world at large.

[ElNono]

I made a specific reference to Zelensky's apparent plan for a forever war in Ukraine. You've simply made up all this shit about my take on the Korean War.

And I already made clear I mostly supported the aid we already gave, and that my concern is about the huge cost and diminishing returns on what is being proposed for future aid.

if you think Russia is "taking Kiev" with the current state of its army, then you're naïve as fuck.

It's obviously not "forever", more like "as long as it takes". And he's right.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I made a specific reference to Zelensky's apparent plan for a forever war in Ukraine. You've simply made up all this shit about my take on the Korean War.

And I already made clear I mostly supported the aid we already gave, and that my concern is about the huge cost and diminishing returns on what is being proposed for future aid.

if you think Russia is "taking Kiev" with the current state of its army, then you're naïve as fuck.

You're not this stupid. I am using your justification for Ukraine and applying it to the Korean conflict in the same time frame.

The situation at the year 2 point is a good analog to your entire take here.

You can wishcast a ceasefire. You have no logical consistency as demonstrated even if you cannot see.

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You're not this stupid. I am using your justification for Ukraine and applying it to the Korean conflict in the same time frame.

The situation at the year 2 point is a good analog to your entire take here.

You can wishcast a ceasefire. You have no logical consistency as demonstrated even if you cannot see.

But we're still in Korea 70+ years after that war ended, we then compounded that loss with another loss when JFK got us into Vietnam and our clock got absolutely cleaned.

We bitched, pissed & moaned after Russia helped the North defeat us in Vietnam and even threatened nuclear war over it. "We'll never do something like that."

Now we're doing exactly what we threatened nuclear over to Russia. lol. + this absolute stunner..."For Putin to use cluster bombs is beyond the pale and akin to nuclear war. I will never do that, I swear on the same Bible I swore on about shutting down COVID."

6 months later...The U.S. is using cluster bombs against Russia. tee, hee.

Ah, the tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

[Thread]

It's obviously not "forever", more like "as long as it takes". And he's right.

Six of 1, half dozen of the other, El.

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Unless you value American lives at zero, there's not much to discuss here. Plus on the economics side, if there's one thing the crippling sanctions are doing is making America a ton of money from things like exported NG.

Since you also brought Taiwan before, this is exactly where geopolitics go. China is also looking at how damaging is can be to tempt fate against America and it's allies.



There's no such thing as a ceasefire without mutual trust that it's going to be abided to by the parts. Funny you mention what would Russia do, considering they've been doing political destabilization prior to 2014 and went ahead with full blown invasion shortly after. Just take a look al Modova next door.

IMHO, this conflict isn't going anywhere until the floor falls from under Putler, much like it happened to Russia in the '90s. Which would be a great thing for Russians in general and the world at large.

Sure, China is looking at Russia seizing and retaining 20% of Ukraine.

Who the fuck do you think you're fooling, El? What, because you Ignore me you think I ain't reading your shit, son?

Uh, uh. Nope. I read everybody's shit. I ignore no one. Ever. It's my religion.

[ChumpDumper]

U had no idea who said it. I had to educate your ignorant ass :lol

Chumpanzee :lol
I know what you said.

How do you live with being that wrong that often?

[ChumpDumper]

He never paid a major price for his actions before. This time he did.

Anyway... sanctions, reparations and other punishments can remain on the table.Why should they?

Anything he gets from this will be a reward and will encourage him to do it again.

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpdumper is not the one going to the trenches, but they are and they don't really want to...

BBC News: Ukraine is struggling to meet its demand for soldiers.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66542065

So it's like almost every war we ever fought.

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Why should they?

Anything he gets from this will be a reward and will encourage him to do it again.

He's already done it, Dumper. He has possession of 20% of Ukraine, including their Zap Nuclear Plant and the southern water. There is nobody who is going to blow Russia's horn, but they got that 20%. If Canada held 20% of America it'd be WW3. In Nazi occupied Ukraine? It ain't shit.

Dumper, it just shows ta go ya.

[Thread]

So it's like almost every war we ever fought.

Especially when Cassius Clay refused to go. tee, hee. So, they went after Elvis. Uh, uh. Nope. He'd already been drafted, didn't dodge, just served, and after 2 years back to America and a 90% tax rate. muhahahahahahahaha!!!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Chumpdumper is not the one going to the trenches, but they are and they don't really want to...

BBC News: Ukraine is struggling to meet its demand for soldiers.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66542065

So the chosen and widely popular leader of Ukraine is working against corruption and refugees are fleeing the combat zone to the west. These are reasons for continued support.

There is a reality to the demographics of Ukraine and you are grasping at straws.

[ChumpDumper]

THE BEGGING

1697059700188360947

:lol

[Thread]

So the chosen and widely popular leader of Ukraine is working against corruption and refugees are fleeing the combat zone to the west. These are reasons for continued support.

There is a reality to the demographics of Ukraine and you are grasping at straws.

And Ukrainian men of age are sneaking into Poland. Like Effy says, they fucked around volunteerin' and almost found out.

Like American kids fleeing into Canada during Vietnam.

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THE BEGGING

1697059700188360947

:lol

Well, you can certainly believe the U.S. State Department, they'd never lie.

[Splits]

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:lmao

[Splits]

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:lmao

[Splits]

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:lmao

[Splits]

niglets :lmao

"Crimea by fall" said nobody :lmao

[Ef-man]

https://i.ibb.co/CvPDdDT/image.png

:lmao

The kiss of death. :lmao

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niglets :lmao

"Crimea by fall" said nobody :lmao

Horseshit, Splits, I saw ya's at it.

Instead they took both Nuke plants and made ya's take back that broke one. & they took your southern water + 20%. What'd you get? You lost 20% of your Nazi ridden Ukraine. Usually, 100% of the time your side loves to fight & kill Nazi's. Not this time. Not in Ukraine. So, like in II. Russia has to kill Nazi's once & again just like the old days. Russia doing America's wet work for them. And like in II, no thanks is necessary. Killing Nazi's is a pleasure for Russia.

Let us proceed...

[Thread]

The kiss of death. :lmao

Mornin', Effy.

Let us proceed...

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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

[pgardn]

THE BEGGING

1697059700188360947

:lol

Begging the fat boy fir a samich niglets...

Dont go near hater in Vegas. Objects spontaneously burst into flames, especially gambling tickets.

[hater]

:lol why would they surrender, they've been kicking Rusky's asses for a while now. With Russia's economic struggles is only gonna get worse, considering they're largely a poor country already.

"Crimea by Fall"

:lmao

[hater]

niglets :lmao

"Crimea by fall" said nobody :lmao

:lmao Split Vagina wanting some Chonchon as well

Hera ya go nig :lmao bendover


"Budanov predicted on Sept. 30, 2022, that the Ukrainian Armed Forces would enter Crimea by the end of Spring 2023."

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-reclaim-crimea-other-occupied-153000109.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAoP5eZhMqkvBxEnL2vQbzPtt2wO ZpDdTco3uVUsQfBD6Hb9TFPgNj2Ugx8NCmeDn91uhKI0GyH5eC O5bfibdvFZiqPGQqQwg29VlMlFrbHTKtyFsWJdcX__Uhe-4y-adbm9bymJP1xwu9N3CeCYYsJGS6XwFsfKyWQZXbSG7gb_

Wikipedia:
"Kyrylo Oleksiyovych Budanov (Ukrainian: Кирило Олексійович Буданов; born 4 January 1986) is a Ukrainian military leader who is the chief of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine since August 2020.[1"



:lmao

[hater]

Btw looks like Kokamedian will promote the "Crimea by Fall" Prophet to Defense Minister

:lmao

You cant make this shit up :lol

[hater]

Horseshit, Splits, I saw ya's at it.

Instead they took both Nuke plants and made ya's take back that broke one. & they took your southern water + 20%. What'd you get? You lost 20% of your Nazi ridden Ukraine. Usually, 100% of the time your side loves to fight & kill Nazi's. Not this time. Not in Ukraine. So, like in II. Russia has to kill Nazi's once & again just like the old days. Russia doing America's wet work for them. And like in II, no thanks is necessary. Killing Nazi's is a pleasure for Russia.

Let us proceed...

America didnt want to fight the nazis in 2 either thread. Most were happybto trade with them and see Europe get fucked.

Only Teddy and a handful wantedbto fight Nazism and Teddybhad to goad the Japs to attack us to finally do it.

So in reality America usually loves them nazis. Sadly

[Thread]

America didnt want to fight the nazis in 2 either thread. Most were happybto trade with them and see Europe get fucked.

Only Teddy and a handful wantedbto fight Nazism and Teddybhad to goad the Japs to attack us to finally do it.

So in reality America usually loves them nazis. Sadly

hater

[hater]

Meds going in :lol

https://twitter.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1695023003329823068

[Winehole23]

hilarious, if true

1696898205328310428

[ChumpDumper]

hilarious, if true

1696898205328310428

:lmao Putin

Defeated by Amazon boxes.

[velik_m]

Russian Chipmaker Baikal Goes Bankrupt, Assets Valued at Only $5 Million

T-Platforms, the parent company of Russian chipmaker Baikal Electronics, has declared bankruptcy and is auctioning off its assets, including intellectual property related to Baikal processors, one of a few designers of CPUs and system-on-chips from Russia, reports CNews. According to Kommersant, the total value of these assets is estimated at $5 million.

T-Platforms, a Russian company with ambitions to build exascale supercomputers and develop domestic CPUs, was officially declared bankrupt in October 2022. T-Platforms had been among the few Russian companies capable of producing supercomputers that could compete on a global scale. T-Platform's bankruptcy proceedings have led to the auctioning of various assets, including the intellectual property, patents, and shares of Baikal Electronics. The IP is related to the development of Baikal processors, which rely on the Arm and MIPS instruction set architectures.

The technology being auctioned is outdated, to say the least. The Baikal-M1 processor, for instance, is based on eight outdated Arm Cortex-A57 cores operating at 1.50 GHz and outfitted with an 8MB L3 cache that is accompanied by an eight-cluster Arm Mali-T628 GPU with two display pipelines. TSMC made the SoC on its 28nm fabrication process. Meanwhile, Baikal's 48-core Baikal-S SoC for servers has never entered mass production. Since both processors are now obsolete, Baikal's assets have been valued at 484 million rubles ($5 million). The auction is scheduled for September 26, 2023.
...


https://www.tomshardware.com/news/russian-chipmaker-baikal-goes-bankrupt-assets-valued-at-only-dollar5-million

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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

[velik_m]

1697217126451323369

[hater]

"The Russians wont accept anything short of Ukranian Capitulation" - Fmr UK Ambassador Alastair Crooke

33A0GIrLT1Q

[clambake]

No no they’re begging for peace

[velik_m]

Putin Powerless to Complain About China Claiming Russia Territory

Chinese media outlets this week shared a new geographic map from China's state-owned standard map service that shows Russian territory as part of China.

The map, which is said to have been approved by Beijing and was released by China's Ministry of Natural Resources, comes as Western observers have speculated that the relationship between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping has become strained.

Shortly before Putin launched his invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, he and Xi signed a "no limits" partnership agreement, but Chinese officials have since publicly called for a peaceful resolution to the war. Earlier this month, the Institute for the Study of War think tank wrote that China's public stance of neutrality in regard to Ukraine is causing a fissure between Beijing and the Kremlin.

...


https://www.newsweek.com/putin-powerless-complain-about-china-claiming-russia-territory-1823513

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-powerless-complain-about-china-claiming-russia-territory-1823513

Putin should just give Xi that territory. It's clearly all he wants and will never claim any more.

[velik_m]

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[ElNono]

"Crimea by Fall"

:lmao


:lmao Split Vagina wanting some Chonchon as well

Hera ya go nig :lmao bendover

So nobody here said that :tu

[ElNono]

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:lmao


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:lmao


https://i.ibb.co/CvPDdDT/image.png

:lmao

:lmao

:lol Today's Putler's lovers
:lol Multiple sauces

[ElNono]

Russian Chipmaker Baikal Goes Bankrupt, Assets Valued at Only $5 Million

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/russian-chipmaker-baikal-goes-bankrupt-assets-valued-at-only-dollar5-million

That's like a billion rubles though :lmao

[ElNono]

Putin should just give Xi that territory. It's clearly all he wants and will never claim any more.

Part of the slow transition into a Chinese colony, tbh

[hater]

:lmao Dustin off the boomers to train ukranians on ancient tanks :lmao :lol

https://twitter.com/Trollstoy88/status/1697249105897198014

"Crimea by Fall"

:lol

[hater]

"To train Ukrainians to operate with Leopard 1A5 tanks Germans had to call the old people" - New York Times.

:lmao

[hater]

https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1697305770826629450


"Crimea by Fall"

:lmao

[koriwhat]

Fuck Ukraine!

[hater]

:lmao with German economy in the shitter, Soros decides to jump off :lol

https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1695472821827223630

"My job here is done. Peace niglets" - Soros


:lmao

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https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1697305770826629450


"Crimea by Fall"




:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Thread]

Fuck Ukraine!

Fuck Ukraine!!!

[ChumpDumper]

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:lmao


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:lmao

:rollin

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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

[hater]

:lmao brothers morale high :lol

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1672719294013030405

[Thread]

:lmao brothers morale high :lol

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1672719294013030405

Amen.

[Ef-man]

The Ukrainians have cloned the HIMARS!

https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1697380506453623169

[Ef-man]

Damn they are ingenious!

https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1697372070189863046

[pgardn]

:lmao brothers morale high :lol

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1672719294013030405

Sure thing.

If going nuke is done WE will eliminate all Russian forces in Ukraine in a conventional retribution.
It’s already on the table. Putin and Lusheshenko both know this. If Belarus is a part of it… god help them.
It will be horrific loss of life for the both of them.

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status/1697376582099157049

[Ef-man]

:wow

https://twitter.com/laraseligman/status/1697334945973231978

[Ef-man]

Russian air defense :lmao :lmao :lmao

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1697282691559723515

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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

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Sure thing.

If going nuke is done WE will eliminate all Russian forces in Ukraine in a conventional retribution.
It’s already on the table. Putin and Lusheshenko both know this. If Belarus is a part of it… god help them.
It will be horrific loss of life for the both of them.

America ain't gonna do shit, peeg...as long as Russia doesn't nuke America. And they won't have to---to accomplish their goal.

+ America considered nuking them first in '45 after Russia dispatched the Nazi's for, well, all mankind. We repaid them by threatening to do to them what we'd done to the Yellow people in Japan. But instead made them our official boogeyman forever and MIC sponsor.

[Ef-man]

Someone got fucked up. :lol

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1697369241547137243

[Ef-man]

Again? :lol

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1697363943562342819

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1697357310920638795

[Ef-man]

Boom!

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1697362078661582913

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1697340657764094298

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1697337131943813440

[Ef-man]

Seems fair payback.

https://twitter.com/BruckenRuski/status/1697246362528805376

[Ef-man]

Dive bombing drones.

https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1697303727114162656

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https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1697337131943813440

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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

[hater]

America ain't gonna do shit, peeg...as long as Russia doesn't nuke America. And they won't have to---to accomplish their goal.

+ America considered nuking them first in '45 after Russia dispatched the Nazi's for, well, all mankind. We repaid them by threatening to do to them what we'd done to the Yellow people in Japan. But instead made them our official boogeyman forever and MIC sponsor.

Ignorant americans like Urine say that Russias nukes wont work :lol

They say Russian weapons are crap and they are just using washing machines and shovels in Ukraine :lol

These are the same morons that will wake up one day with their skin grafted on their bed sheets after a night nuke exchange :lol

These idiots will still deny it was Russian weapons that melted down their cities and will blame it on climate change :lol

Ce la vi

[daboom1]

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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

[daboom1]

Make sure you're right...


https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fd.newsweek.com%2Fen%2Ffull%2F1369 325%2Fvladimir-putin-sanctions-russia-us.jpg&f=1&nofb=1



Then give Effy the 12 incher, dry.





BONE DRY!!!

[Ef-man]

His mother :lol

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1697369552378618250

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1697363325946904654

[velik_m]

1697415749508149468

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Make sure you're right...


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Then give Effy the 12 incher, dry.





BONE DRY!!!

[ChumpDumper]

Ignorant americans like Urine say that Russias nukes wont work :lol

They say Russian weapons are crap and they are just using washing machines and shovels in Ukraine :lol

These are the same morons that will wake up one day with their skin grafted on their bed sheets after a night nuke exchange :lol

These idiots will still deny it was Russian weapons that melted down their cities and will blame it on climate change :lol

Ce la vi

In 3-5 days.

[ElNono]

:wow

https://twitter.com/laraseligman/status/1697334945973231978

Whatever it takes :tu

[ElNono]

Ignorant americans like Urine say that Russias nukes wont work :lol

They say Russian weapons are crap and they are just using washing machines and shovels in Ukraine :lol

These are the same morons that will wake up one day with their skin grafted on their bed sheets after a night nuke exchange :lol

These idiots will still deny it was Russian weapons that melted down their cities and will blame it on climate change :lol

Ce la vi

The tears in this post :lmao:lmao:lmao

[velik_m]

Hero of "special military operation" rewarded in Russia with firewood, ice and central heating

A tank gunner who was lucky enough to return from Ukraine at the end of August has received a "generous" reward: his family's home will be connected to the central heating system.

Source: Kremlin-aligned news agency RIA Novosti

Details: The "hero of the special military operation" [as the war against Ukraine is called in Russia – ed.] will have his home connected to the heating system on the instructions of Aisen Nikolayev, the head of Yakutia, himself.

Nikolayev’s press office reported that the official has tasked the local authorities with connecting the serviceman's house to the central heating system and reimbursing the costs of erecting a fence.

The father of the so-called hero said that the authorities help out with firewood and ice; in the winter, ice is melted in the villages and used as drinking water.

...


https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/31/7417907/

World superpower :lmao

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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/31/7417907/

World superpower :lmao

Sounds like television series from the '60's..."The Streets of San Francisco"

tee, hee.

[FrostKing]

Ignorant americans like Urine say that Russias nukes wont work :lol

They say Russian weapons are crap and they are just using washing machines and shovels in Ukraine :lol

These are the same morons that will wake up one day with their skin grafted on their bed sheets after a night nuke exchange :lol

These idiots will still deny it was Russian weapons that melted down their cities and will blame it on climate change :lol

Ce la vi
No one is marching on Moscow. No need for Nukes.

Putin is a proud Man and he loves his people. He won't sacrifice that just to spite his neighbors.


There is growing local problems in Poland because of the enormous Ukranian influx. Typical stuff you'd imagine. Everyone is ready for the War to end but how? USA shouldn't be at the negotiating table. EU should represent before NATO.

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No one is marching on Moscow. No need for Nukes.

Putin is a proud Man and he loves his people. He won't sacrifice that just to spite his neighbors.


There is growing local problems in Poland because of the enormous Ukranian influx. Typical stuff you'd imagine. Everyone is ready for the War to end but how? USA shouldn't be at the negotiating table. EU should represent before NATO.

Yep!!!

Including a shit load of Ukrainians men over the age of 18 and under the age of 60. :lol

[FrostKing]

Yep!!!

Including a shit load of Ukrainians men over the age of 18 and under the age of 60. :lol
Considering the enormous numbers it's gone smoothly. Just some local problems.

A decent amount of these refugees are wealthier than the locals in even cities like Wroclaw or Warsaw. Definitely rising rent costs.

Polish government is also offering certain retirement plans and financial benefits that just seem quite generous in comparison to what the regular citizen has been helped with.

But overall we are very alike and could really use the added population boom.

[FrostKing]

In the scope of Polska the past 100 years. This is staggering change. Recently we were 99.something % Native. But if we rewind back to our nation's glory days we were more diverse. I think Polska has potential to continue to grow and be a major 2nd Tier EU nation. This is a convenient disaster to help spring that.

[Thread]

In the scope of Polska the past 100 years. This is staggering change. Recently we were 99.something % Native. But if we rewind back to our nation's glory days we were more diverse. I think Polska has potential to continue to grow and be a major 2nd Tier EU nation. This is a convenient disaster to help spring that.

["There isn't an ill wind that doesn't blow somebody a good thing."]

or, something like that. Your Poland is benefiting & our squattin' fuck in the White House ain't out at Dover with his fuckin' watch, the animal fuck.

[FrostKing]

["There isn't an ill wind that doesn't blow somebody a good thing."]

or, something like that.
Someone always prospers

Polish politicians and the countless Churches are seeing new lifeline. Does this sway their decision when USA comes around saying you can have this but in return do this. Yes.

In history Russia has historically played lone wolf. They view us neighbors as just pawns to the West. May it be. But ultimately we are in better shape than Belarus or Lithuania.

[hater]

No one is marching on Moscow. No need for Nukes.

Putin is a proud Man and he loves his people. He won't sacrifice that just to spite his neighbors.


There is growing local problems in Poland because of the enormous Ukranian influx. Typical stuff you'd imagine. Everyone is ready for the War to end but how? USA shouldn't be at the negotiating table. EU should represent before NATO.

Noone said anyone is marching on moscow.

All it takes to light the nuclear fuse is if somehow a place like Crimea is threatened. Where millions of Russians would be in peril then its off to the nuclear hellfires.

[FrostKing]

Noone said anyone is marching on moscow.

All it takes to light the nuclear fuse is if somehow a place like Crimea is threatened. Where millions of Russians would be in peril then its off to the nuclear hellfires.
Amigo, this is Eastern Euro warfare. Some fuckers in faraway Crimea are just bigos for tomorrow

Motherland or nothing

It's land grabbing and creating a buffer for the next conflict. Going into each other's Capitals is serious.

[hater]

Luka doing Lukan things :lol

Invites Poland to his wargames :lmao :lol

https://twitter.com/ForbiddenNewsT/status/1697446467890507996


Also Luka when asked about Poland demqndingbexit of Wagner from Belarus:

"Sure. No country no Belarus no Poland no Lithuanias should have any foreign soldiers on their territories"

(Poland has tens of thousands of american soldiers in their land)


:lmao :lmao :lmao

Luka

[hater]

Amigo, this is Eastern Euro warfare. Some fuckers in faraway Crimea are just bigos for tomorrow

Motherland or nothing

It's land grabbing and creating a buffer for the next conflict. Going into each other's Capitals is serious.

Not what Russia and Russians say.

Threaten millions of Russian civilians in Crimea and its a nuclear party :lol

Ce la vi

[FrostKing]

In the East we don't actually want to conquer one another. Just control and manipulate.

It's too much work to house, fight off uprisings and we don't feel right exterminating a fellow Slav

[hater]

In the East we don't actually want to conquer one another. Just control and manipulate.

It's too much work to house, fight off uprisings and we don't feel right exterminating a fellow Slav

Every9ne feels like this.

But tell that to your governments and their puppet masters the US.

They clearly say its the best money they ever spent :lol

[FrostKing]

Every9ne feels like this.

But tell that to your governments and their puppet masters the US.

They clearly say its the best money they ever spent :lol
Well I explained earlier why it's in the politicians & churches motive to agree.

Except for - maybe Russia becomes some untouchable power in 300 years and decides vengeance time. It's sadly no brainer for Polska to take this route. As of now.

Cost of living has exploded though. But I think rather unavoidable for Polska

[hater]

Well I explained earlier why it's in the politicians & churches motive to agree.

Except for - maybe Russia becomes some untouchable power in 300 years and decides vengeance time. It's sadly no brainer for Polska to take this route. As of now.

Cost of living has exploded though. But I think rather unavoidable for Polska

Yup they got youneconomically by the balls and have nowhere to go. But still. Blindly walking into the meatgrinder is still a dumb choice.

And when its Pollacks turn to walk into the meatgrinder they most likely will.

"We who are about to die salute you" - poland to Biden

[FrostKing]

Yup they got youneconomically by the balls and have nowhere to go. But still. Blindly walking into the meatgrinder is still a dumb choice.

And when its Pollacks turn to walk into the meatgrinder they most likely will.

"We who are about to die salute you" - poland to Biden
You are looking at it wrong. In the past Polska was the Ukraine. Now we support Ukraine to keep it off our porch.

[hater]

You are looking at it wrong. In the past Polska was the Ukraine. Now we support Ukraine to keep it off our porch.

And it all seems to be working out great :lol

[FrostKing]

I'm not anti-Russia. Or have bias against them. Accusing them of being imperialist.

But bottomline they are situated in the corner and can't go South because of China. Russians have dreams like all of our people.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/wrLNHjW/Untitled-design-14-750x375.png

Notice the Polish Eagle also looks and faces West

[hater]

I'm not anti-Russia. Or have bias against them. Accusing them of being imperialist.

But bottomline they are situated in the corner and can't go South because of China. Russians have dreams like all of our people.

Only thing that will help is a peace agreement. :tu

Remember there was one all it needed was signatures. Would have kept ukraine intact and neutral. US said fcuk that.

More pollacks should be asking for peace tbqh

[FrostKing]

Only thing that will help is a peace agreement. :tu

Remember there was one all it needed was signatures. Would have kept ukraine intact and neutral. US said fcuk that.

More pollacks should be asking for peace tbqh
I think so too. But people making the decisions have bias. They were bullied by Russia in the past and want to teach them a lesson.

Putting myself in the shoes of someone that feels that way (many) there is no better time than now.

[FrostKing]

I mean I was born behind the Iron Curtain. No one is saying take back Russian land but yah I kinda get let's drain them of their arrogance

[FrostKing]

Make them the last European nation to roll in tanks

[pgardn]

Noone said anyone is marching on moscow.

All it takes to light the nuclear fuse is if somehow a place like Crimea is threatened. Where millions of Russians would be in peril then it’s off to the nuclear hellfires.

You are dreaming.

Russia will not risk losing its entire army in Ukraine.
It’s ON THE TABLE. WE WILL eliminate Russian air and ground forces in all of Ukraine.
Russia would risk losing control of everything they currently have power over including internally.
The US would rather this ensuing chaos in Russia NOT occur. We need to have some entity to negotiate with.

Wake up…

[hater]

I think so too. But people making the decisions have bias. They were bullied by Russia in the past and want to teach them a lesson.

Putting myself in the shoes of someone that feels that way (many) there is no better time than now.

Well seems the lesson is being learned by the wrong side so far

[pgardn]

Even Belarus understands intimately that when a country purposely puts radioactive material in the air that can spread in the air all over Europe it is declaring "we dont give a shit about anything." dont be an idiot...

[pgardn]

I mean I was born behind the Iron Curtain. No one is saying take back Russian land but yah I kinda get let's drain them of their arrogance

Your position and personal experience given on a basketball board is not going to change the mind of someone thoroughly enamored with power via a single ruler.
Responding to hater really means just showing anyone peaking in on the subject what an idiot he is.

[pgardn]

OH

And when hater's personal autocratic rulers get removed he will tell you he never really said he actively rooted for them anyway.
Hater is a tiny bobber in rough seas of confusion. He goes up, he goes down. Where is he now... toss a coin.

[FrostKing]

Your position and personal experience given on a basketball board is not going to change the mind of someone thoroughly enamored with power via a single ruler.
Responding to hater really means just showing anyone peaking in on the subject what an idiot he is.
I like to see both sides. Russia initially had a fair point - NATO unwritten agreement to not expand was broken. I personally believe something of the sort did occur.

But the 2nd plan of "cleansing old Russian lands of Nazis that are currently mistreating Russian nationals". Convoluted and slippery slope.

Fast forward and now they are crying outside involvement

I still respect Putin's career and believe he will agree to a fair resolution but IMO... the West egged him on and he shockingly fell for the trap.

[ChumpDumper]

An unwritten agreement isn't an agreement.

[FrostKing]

An unwritten agreement isn't an agreement.
That's fine but these are Russians not some 3rd World country. I'm sure it came up in discussions within the past 30+ years.

Frankly Ukraine doesn't need such weapons on its border. Neither does Poland. But for Ukraine debate over NATO today would be EU tomorrow. So get it over with now.

[CosmicCowboy]

An unwritten agreement isn't an agreement.

What about the US and Taiwan?

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1697623384593457650

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1697602350972641746

[clambake]

An unwritten agreement isn't an agreement.

Written or unwritten isn’t an agreement with this guy.

[Ef-man]

:lol Russian air defense.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1697512689369563499

[FrostKing]

Russia sent in the tanks regardless of the "agreement" [my 2nd point]

But it complicates our ability to reach a new agreement

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Written or unwritten isn’t an agreement with this guy.

It's war. Why anyone would make any agreement until one side is defeated and surrenders is beyond me. But, countries have been doing it since just after Truman said this: 'Again."

America lost Korea.
America lost Vietnam.
America lost Afghan.

on & on.

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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

[RandomGuy]

:lol Russian air defense.

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[RandomGuy]

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Ukrainian prosecutors found that Russian forces had tortured 75 children over the course of the Kremlin’s illegal war, according to a report by Interfax Ukraine.

Yuliya Usenko, a top Ukrainian prosecutor, told the outlet: "Today, pre-trial investigation bodies and prosecutors document such crimes in more than 3,200 criminal proceedings. These include murders, mutilations, child abduction, forced displacement, deportation, sexual violence against children, and attacks on institutions and facilities for children.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1808368/ukraine-counteroffensive-russian-defence-child-torture

Supporting child torture. That is a new low, even for you.

[RandomGuy]

Ukrainians are once again trolling Russians, and in this episode, General Chereshnya, that's his nickname, calls the Pskov Regional Emergency Situations Ministry:


OPERATOR - Hello, Main Directorate of the Emergency Situations Ministry for the Pskov Region!
UA - Hello! There are some explosions happening in the city. What are these explosions?
OPERATOR - There's a plane on fire at the Kresty airport.
UA - Is it just one plane, or multiple?
OPERATOR - One
UA- Ok, we’ll make sure to hit some more. Thank you for confirming, I appreciate it! Glory to Ukraine!

:lol

[pgardn]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F48cr8faIAAqkfM?format=png&name=900x900

Truthfully they are getting better at jamming.

Ukraine is staying ahead of the curve in drone manufacturing.
they have over 80 companies making all kinds of drones constantly fiddling and producing new ways to do things. As long as we supply them with sophisticated circuitry when needed they are doing a great job on their own. This was the place (Ukraine) with the leading minds for the space industry for the region. thus Russia now attacks the moon with "projectiles" apparently while India actually lands a craft on it.

[pgardn]

People still think Putin will hold to any agreements unless confronted with severe consequences...

Hater and Frosty:
"Fool me once, oh wft. What do they say about fooling me till I die?"

[ChumpDumper]

That's fine but these are Russians not some 3rd World country.Russia a 3rd world country with a bunch of leftover nukes.

There is no scenario in which the European countries bordering Russia preemptively attack and invade Russia, so let go of that fantasy excuse.

Russia starts wars of aggression and territorial conquest.

[daboom1]

Make sure you're right...


https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fd.newsweek.com%2Fen%2Ffull%2F1369 325%2Fvladimir-putin-sanctions-russia-us.jpg&f=1&nofb=1



Then give RG the 12 incher, dry.





BONE DRY!!!

[FrostKing]

Russia a 3rd world country with a bunch of leftover nukes.

There is no scenario in which the European countries bordering Russia preemptively attack and invade Russia, so let go of that fantasy excuse.

Russia starts wars of aggression and territorial conquest.
Russians will exist long after Americans are gone. I get your cute attempt at being macho but

Americans dropped bombs on the Japs
Russians went door 2 door on the Nazis

It's always been a different level of masculinity and these days Americans are turning on each other.

[ChumpDumper]

Russia sent in the tanks regardless of the "agreement" [my 2nd point]

But it complicates our ability to reach a new agreement

Putin doesn't adhere to the terms of any agreement. He only understands force, so that's what he's getting.

[hater]

Satan 2 going operational today - Roscosmos Bosss

https://twitter.com/marianpy1/status/1697633143405089033

[ChumpDumper]

Russians will exist long after Americans are gone. I get your cute attempt at being macho but

Americans dropped bombs on the Japs
Russians went door 2 door on the Nazis

It's always been a different level of masculinity and these days Americans are turning on each other.
I get your cute attempt at machismo but Russia is a backwards shithole and always will be because its males are so insecure all they can do is perpetuate a legacy of corruption and butthurt abuse.

They can't be real men.

[hater]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/tonoeluruguayo/status/1697669380010623366

[hater]

I get your cute attempt at machismo but Russia is a backwards shithole and always will be because its men are so insecure all they can do is perpetuate a legacy of butthurt abuse.

:lmao

Chimpazees insecurity leaking :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

Chimpazees insecurity leaking :lol:lol when are you moving to Russia?

3-5 days?

[FrostKing]

I get your cute attempt at machismo but Russia is a backwards shithole and always will be because its males are so insecure all they can do is perpetuate a legacy of corruption and butthurt abuse.

They can't be real men.
And that's why they will survive.

Americans are dependent on fast food and wifi.

[clambake]

Nut

[ChumpDumper]

And that's why they will survive.

Americans are dependent on fast food and wifi.:lmao

Your cultural envy is adorable.

Why aren't you moving to Russia?

You can only be a real man there!

[hater]

And that's why they will survive.

Americans are dependent on fast food and wifi.

Russians have eaten shoes for years. Can do it again.

Can u imagine america without power for a while? :lmao

They would eat each other by weeks end :lol