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RandomGuy
08-10-2023, 08:58 PM
:lmao

https://twitter.com/maksymeristavi/status/1495323069539405826

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3NwXwYWoAAnoOn?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3NwlwhX0AENw1j?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3Nw6gGXIAEau9s?format=jpg&name=small

Ef-man
08-10-2023, 10:36 PM
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1689271242791006208

ElNono
08-11-2023, 02:36 AM
Haven’t you heard?

It’s over lol

lmao

Thread
08-11-2023, 02:39 AM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/biden.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=978


GRADE A BASTARD!!!

Thread
08-11-2023, 06:32 AM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/biden.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=978


GRADE A BASTARD!!!

https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

velik_m
08-11-2023, 07:24 AM
Russian fantasy:


European dogs realizing Winter is cominv and they will freeze and starve unless they change course :lmao


https://twitter.com/TFL1728/status/1549587132758515712

Russian reality:


Rolling blackouts in Russia, authorities limit energy flows to China

...
Among other things, the high accident rate is shown by the unified energy system in the east of the country, where there was a shortage in the system.

According to the Russian Ministry of Energy, Russians are promised to cover the deficit by increasing the load of hydroelectric power stations. But at the same time, the message of the ministry says about the need to comply with the rules for the use of water resources, which limits the work of the hydroelectric power station.

In the end, Russia was forced to limit capacity flows to China.

"Everything ultimately led to the need to limit power flows to China through the Amur-Heihe high-voltage direct current to 100-200 MW," the Intefax report says.

At the same time, as the agency notes, the Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation does not indicate the duration of said restriction.
...


https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/10/7415074/

Ef-man
08-11-2023, 09:37 AM
All the winning.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1689912145251639297

Ef-man
08-11-2023, 09:43 AM
:lmao :lmao :lmao

C'est la vie

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1689780485600251904

Thread
08-11-2023, 10:28 AM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/biden.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=978


GRADE A BASTARD!!!

https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

RandomGuy
08-11-2023, 10:46 AM
All the winning.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1689912145251639297

"Russian mobilised soldiers in Kherson Oblast are so battered and mistreated that they're left with no choice but to record a video appeal. Instead of standing at the deeper lines, they've been sent to defend against the relentless advances of the Ukrainian Defence Forces in the first line of defence without any training or logistics."


They have few reserves in the parts of the lines UKR is pushing on. Once UKR breaks through the minefield belt, there will be little to stop them, and that line of defenses will become worthless against a rollup of the flanks.

Thread
08-11-2023, 10:48 AM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/biden.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=978


GRADE A BASTARD!!!

https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

hater
08-11-2023, 11:36 AM
:lmao apparently you need to be fluent in english to fly an F16 :lmao

The 6 Ukranian pilots that are training hqve to first learn english :lmao :lol

https://twitter.com/HoansSolo/status/1689867869603995648


6 :lmao :lol :lol

Ef-man
08-11-2023, 11:47 AM
Haven’t you heard?

It’s over lol



:lmao

Thread
08-11-2023, 12:15 PM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/biden.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=978


GRADE A BASTARD!!!

https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

koriwhat
08-11-2023, 12:22 PM
Fuck Ukraine!

Thread
08-11-2023, 01:43 PM
Fuck Ukraine!

Absolutely!!!

Ef-man
08-11-2023, 02:54 PM
"Russian mobilised soldiers in Kherson Oblast are so battered and mistreated that they're left with no choice but to record a video appeal. Instead of standing at the deeper lines, they've been sent to defend against the relentless advances of the Ukrainian Defence Forces in the first line of defence without any training or logistics."


They have few reserves in the parts of the lines UKR is pushing on. Once UKR breaks through the minefield belt, there will be little to stop them, and that line of defenses will become worthless against a rollup of the flanks.

Not looking good for the russians at all.

koriwhat
08-11-2023, 03:07 PM
Not looking good for the russians at all.

Didn't you same fucks say this from day 1? BlueAnon strikes again! Dumbfucks!

Thread
08-11-2023, 03:28 PM
Not looking good for the russians at all.

& not 24 hours ago CNN's top brass tossed the Ukraine/Nazi towel.

Just shows ta go ya.

ChumpDumper
08-11-2023, 04:02 PM
Didn't you same fucks say this from day 1? BlueAnon strikes again! Dumbfucks!Considering people here were predicting Russia's conquering the whole of Ukraine in 3-5 days, yes -- it is not looking good for the Russians at all.

Thread
08-11-2023, 04:26 PM
Considering people here were predicting Russia's conquering the whole of Ukraine in 3-5 days, yes -- it is not looking good for the Russians at all.


& not 24 hours ago CNN's top brass tossed the Ukraine/Nazi towel.

Just shows ta go ya.

Ef-man
08-11-2023, 09:32 PM
Fear!!! :lmao

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1690049919711617028

Ef-man
08-11-2023, 10:24 PM
$20.6B - whatever it takes.

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1689735490520428544

DMX7
08-11-2023, 11:34 PM
:lmao apparently you need to be fluent in english to fly an F16 :lmao

The 6 Ukranian pilots that are training hqve to first learn english :lmao :lol

6 :lmao :lol :lol

I supported and still support the original aid that was sent to Ukraine but we're at the point of diminishing returns on these massive contributions we're making. The counter-offensive is not going well and the jet fighters have become the almost mythical panacea, but the Pentagon clearly don't believe they really are.

daboom1
08-11-2023, 11:36 PM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/biden.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=978


GRADE A BASTARD!!!

Ef-man
08-11-2023, 11:44 PM
https://twitter.com/maksymeristavi/status/1495323069539405826

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3NwXwYWoAAnoOn?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3NwlwhX0AENw1j?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3Nw6gGXIAEau9s?format=jpg&name=small

:lol

Thread
08-11-2023, 11:44 PM
I supported and still support the original aid that was sent to Ukraine but we're at the point of diminishing returns on these massive contributions we're making. The counter-offensive is not going well and the jet fighters have become the almost mythical panacea, but the Pentagon clearly don't believe they really are.

A pure prime example of why we permitted Russia to survive as WW2 wound down. The question was in that circa...should we take them out whilst we had everything right there? We chose to adopt Russia instead. Why waste them when we could use them for the next 100 years if not eternity as our resident boogeyman and our #1 reason to erect our Military Industrial Complex (MIC).

Voila!!!

Ef-man
08-11-2023, 11:45 PM
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1690041673986846724

Thread
08-11-2023, 11:45 PM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/biden.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=978


GRADE A BASTARD!!!

Ef-man
08-11-2023, 11:46 PM
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1690000347157180419

Thread
08-11-2023, 11:46 PM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/biden.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=978


GRADE A BASTARD!!!

https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

DMX7
08-12-2023, 12:24 AM
$20.6B - whatever it takes.

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1689735490520428544

Apparently, this Ukraine aid proposal only covers 3 months of spending. It's literally laughable how financially mismanaged the US is. US just got a credit rating downgrade but must be aiming for another.

DMX7
08-12-2023, 12:26 AM
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1690000347157180419

It's not doing well but it's difficult to judge with accuracy just how badly because it's not really being traded on an open market -- these quotes are quite distorted.

Ef-man
08-12-2023, 12:28 AM
Ce la vi

https://twitter.com/Alex_Oloyede2/status/1689623168816717824


Hater is ready to call Kupyansk


The Russians will take Kupyansk in a few days.


Calling it now....

Hater calling it now, in third person to boot. :lmao :lmao :lmao

Another kiss of death added to long list of bad hater predictions!!!!! :lmao :lmao :lmao

C'est la vie


https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1690059586013724673

Ef-man
08-12-2023, 12:35 AM
Apparently, this Ukraine aid proposal only covers 3 months of spending. It's literally laughable how financially mismanaged the US is. US just got a credit rating downgrade but must be aiming for another.

Eh, the U.S. government 2022 federal budget, mandatory spending was budgeted at $4.018 trillion.

Thread
08-12-2023, 12:51 AM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/biden.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=978


GRADE A BASTARD!!!


https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/biden.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=978


GRADE A BASTARD!!!

https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

velik_m
08-12-2023, 02:24 AM
Russian fantasy:

Russia claims complete control of Ukrainian airspace
Defense Ministry says Berdyansk, Energodar cities, as well as Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant under Russian troops' control
Elena Teslova | 28.02.2022 - Update : 28.02.2022

The Russian Defense Ministry on Monday declared complete control of the Ukrainian airspace, claiming that its air force has destroyed about 20 more air defense system targets during ongoing operations.

“Over the past day, the Russian Aerospace Forces have destroyed 8 Buk M-1 combat vehicles, S-300 and Buk M-1 air defense systems, 3 radio engineering positions with P-14 stations, 4 combat aircraft on the ground and one combat aircraft shot down in the air," Igor Konashenkov, the ministry spokesman, told a daily press briefing in Moscow.

“Russian aviation has gained air supremacy over the entire territory of Ukraine,” Konashenkov claimed.
...

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/russia-ukraine-crisis/russia-claims-complete-control-of-ukrainian-airspace/2517960


Russian reality:

Ukraine Issues Warning to Moscow Residents: ‘Expect More, Daily Attacks’
After another drone attack on Russia’s capital this morning, Ukrainian military intelligence told Kyiv Post there is a “certain justice” in how Moscow’s residents are feeling.
by Maryna Shashkova, Chris York | August 11, 2023, 1:02 pm

Kyiv has warned those living in Moscow to expect more attacks, adding the Russian capital’s air defenses appear incapable of protecting its citizens as the drone war between the two countries continues to escalate.

After a dramatic increase in Ukrainian attacks in recent weeks, Andriy Yusov, spokesperson for Ukrainian military intelligence (HUR), told Kyiv Post, that the “the concept of security is increasingly distant from the residents of Moscow.”

“He added: “The whole world continues to see that the Russian defense system and the country – which claims a leading role in the arms market – is ineffective, outdated, and cannot adequately respond to modern challenges.”

Yusov said this is a symptom of President Putin’s leadership which “continues to lead to the degradation of the state management system.”
...

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/20440

velik_m
08-12-2023, 02:36 AM
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velik_m
08-12-2023, 04:53 AM
1690118421734711297

Thread
08-12-2023, 05:27 AM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/biden.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=978


GRADE A BASTARD!!!


https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/biden.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=978


GRADE A BASTARD!!!

https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

FrostKing
08-12-2023, 06:25 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3NwXwYWoAAnoOn?format=jpg&name=small




https://i.ibb.co/4Tfj63x/Screenshot-20230812-042030-Chrome.png

Vistula is one of the Toughest captures in Europe.

Thread
08-12-2023, 06:34 AM
"Make sure you're right........."

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"Then give RG & Effy a 12 incher-a-piece."

DMX7
08-12-2023, 09:04 AM
Eh, the U.S. government 2022 federal budget, mandatory spending was budgeted at $4.018 trillion.

So… you’re agreeing with me that we’re financially mismanaged?

ChumpDumper
08-12-2023, 10:02 AM
So… you’re agreeing with me that we’re financially mismanaged?Maybe, but the ROI on Ukraine spending makes it completely worth it. Putin isn't going to be able to do much of anything after this except die.

velik_m
08-12-2023, 11:17 AM
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Ef-man
08-12-2023, 11:24 AM
So… you’re agreeing with me that we’re financially mismanaged?

There are issues with US spending, but with two competing parties making the decisions, it is expected. If I has the answers to those questions, I would not be wasting time on ST.

However, the spending to support Ukraine to destroy our old nemesis is pennies on the dollar well worth it as it is pay back for all the crap owed and the increased power projection.

koriwhat
08-12-2023, 12:38 PM
Fuck Ukraine!

DMX7
08-12-2023, 01:19 PM
Maybe, but the ROI on Ukraine spending makes it completely worth it. Putin isn't going to be able to do much of anything after this except die.

Judging by the results so far of the counter-offensive, it seems to me we're at the point of massively diminishing returns on our investment. I mostly supported the original aid packages, with some exceptions, but this is just ridiculous. Fortunately, I think this next package is going to be scaled back in Congress quite a bit.

koriwhat
08-12-2023, 01:22 PM
Judging by the results so far of the counter-offensive, it seems to me we're at the point of massively diminishing returns on our investment.

That was the point all along so it would get us from supporting the war by proxy to being boots on the ground. We never needed to blow tons of tax dollars out in Ukraine if the powers to be didn't send Boris there to nix the peace deal. Shit's so stupid and such a waste!

velik_m
08-12-2023, 01:41 PM
1690392358024605696

Thread
08-12-2023, 02:19 PM
Judging by the results so far of the counter-offensive, it seems to me we're at the point of massively diminishing returns on our investment. I mostly supported the original aid packages, with some exceptions, but this is just ridiculous. Fortunately, I think this next package is going to be scaled back in Congress quite a bit.

I'd give my left nut to see it, 7. I want Russia to kick their ass up so high those Ukr/Nazi fucks can use it for a hump.

Thread
08-12-2023, 02:25 PM
There are issues with US spending, but with two competing parties making the decisions, it is expected. If I has the answers to those questions, I would not be wasting time on ST.

However, the spending to support Ukraine to destroy our old nemesis is pennies on the dollar well worth it as it is pay back for all the crap owed and the increased power projection.

What crap owed?

They saved us the wet work in 2.
They forgave us our deadly trespass; America's lethal plot to nuke them before we left Europe after 2.
They gave us our MIC and all that has wrought us & the world.
They posed as our boogeyman, taking time outs here & there; that one comes to mind where Putin crossed over and danced with Hillary Clinton, was it? Smiles all around, until somebody realized that the aforementioned MIC was being threatened. tee, hee. "Out, and don't come back!" MIC restored, and fully so.

I repeat, Effy, what crap, you sideshow lookin' motherfucker, you?

Thread
08-12-2023, 02:28 PM
https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

steak n eggs
08-12-2023, 02:50 PM
I'd call this war a stalemate at best right now. Putin isn't backing down and I wouldn't put it past him to commit larger atrocities to save face. Analysts have stated that Ukraine has no chance of winning while the US continues to give just enough to keep it alive. Even Joe fears sending too much weaponry as to not infuriate Putin. If he's that scared of Putin, then what's the point? I'm betting the bank balances of our glorious politicians tell the real story. I'm just wondering when liberals became such war hawks. But hey, keep sucking on that US government dick.

Thread
08-12-2023, 03:18 PM
I'd call this war a stalemate at best right now. Putin isn't backing down and I wouldn't put it past him to commit larger atrocities to save face. Analysts have stated that Ukraine has no chance of winning while the US continues to give just enough to keep it alive. Even Joe fears sending too much weaponry as to not infuriate Putin. If he's that scared of Putin, then what's the point? I'm betting the bank balances of our glorious politicians tell the real story. I'm just wondering when liberals became such war hawks. But hey, keep sucking on that US government dick.

Biden will not get involved with his nuclear codes, unless Putin strikes the U.S., which he-will-not-do. That has been addressed & fully understood twixt the 2 of 'em from the very start. Sure, Putin will allow American boots on the Ukr/Nazi ground under the conditions that were discussed and agreed to, from the aforementioned very start..."No problem...knock yourselves out, just don't get into a cockpit. I'll know."

Fully half of what that old fuck squattin' in the White House has sent Ukr's Nazi's is "humanitarian aid"...junk, swag, goody bags, you know whence I speak, kids.

& that's why Putin still holds 20% of Ukr/Nazi territory...most importantly that nuclear facility there in Zap.https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

ChumpDumper
08-12-2023, 03:29 PM
Judging by the results so far of the counter-offensive, it seems to me we're at the point of massively diminishing returns on our investment. I mostly supported the original aid packages, with some exceptions, but this is just ridiculous. Fortunately, I think this next package is going to be scaled back in Congress quite a bit.Not sure what you expected with an entrenched enemy. It's not a video game.

ChumpDumper
08-12-2023, 03:30 PM
That was the point all along so it would get us from supporting the war by proxy to being boots on the ground. We never needed to blow tons of tax dollars out in Ukraine if the powers to be didn't send Boris there to nix the peace deal. Shit's so stupid and such a waste!

:lol Neville

Thread
08-12-2023, 03:31 PM
Not sure what you expected with an entrenched enemy. It's not a video game.

Absolutely. It's real life and that aforementioned old fuck squattin' in the White House understands that reality fully.

https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

Thread
08-12-2023, 03:32 PM
:lol Neville

...& still 80 years later, Dumps, we're, well one of (us)(Putin) is still fighting Nazi's.

Just shows ta go ya.

ElNono
08-12-2023, 03:58 PM
I'd call this war a stalemate at best right now. Putin isn't backing down and I wouldn't put it past him to commit larger atrocities to save face. Analysts have stated that Ukraine has no chance of winning while the US continues to give just enough to keep it alive. Even Joe fears sending too much weaponry as to not infuriate Putin. If he's that scared of Putin, then what's the point? I'm betting the bank balances of our glorious politicians tell the real story. I'm just wondering when liberals became such war hawks. But hey, keep sucking on that US government dick.

Ukraine and Old Joe aren't going anywhere. And Putler can't win a war of attrition. The last time they tried (Afghanistan) they lost half their territory and the country collapsed. The problem for Putler is that he's scared shitless of NATO. He knows poking the bear means the end of his dictatorship.

RandomGuy
08-12-2023, 04:31 PM
I'd call this war a stalemate at best right now. Putin isn't backing down and I wouldn't put it past him to commit larger atrocities to save face. Analysts have stated that Ukraine has no chance of winning while the US continues to give just enough to keep it alive. Even Joe fears sending too much weaponry as to not infuriate Putin. If he's that scared of Putin, then what's the point? I'm betting the bank balances of our glorious politicians tell the real story. I'm just wondering when liberals became such war hawks. But hey, keep sucking on that US government dick.

Not quite a stalemate. UKR is grinding RUS down and RUS is losing equipment and men far, far faster than they can replace either.

RUS is losing about 1% of their artillery assets per day or so for the last month. Between battlefield KOs and just wearing the fuck out of their barrels, the arty advantage has shifted to UKR, which has western kit and maintenance backing them up.

I wish we would send ATACMs and whatever other long range missiles they want. Fuck Russia, ain't no one scared of them any more.

RandomGuy
08-12-2023, 04:35 PM
Judging by the results so far of the counter-offensive, it seems to me we're at the point of massively diminishing returns on our investment. I mostly supported the original aid packages, with some exceptions, but this is just ridiculous. Fortunately, I think this next package is going to be scaled back in Congress quite a bit.

We have been sending them stuff we had in storage. They are doing exactly what they need to do.

Without air superiority, this is what it was always going to be, especially with a minefield hundreds of miles wide. HIMARS and the other long range precision artillery coupled with the cluster munition are moving the the needle.

RUS can't even bury their dead. The corpses are simply mouldering around their trenches.

Thread
08-12-2023, 04:37 PM
Absolutely. It's real life and that aforementioned old fuck squattin' in the White House understands that reality fully.

https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

DMX7
08-12-2023, 07:32 PM
Not sure what you expected with an entrenched enemy. It's not a video game.

This is almost exactly what I was expecting.

DMX7
08-12-2023, 07:43 PM
We have been sending them stuff we had in storage.

Why is this important? The HIMARS missiles, PATRIOT batteries and missiles, Javelins, artillery shells, and on and on that we donate have to be replaced at our expense. Of course this also potentially risks our own readiness to meet our various global defense treaty commitments because the replacements can't be manufactured quickly enough.


Without air superiority, this is what it was always going to be, especially with a minefield hundreds of miles wide. HIMARS and the other long range precision artillery coupled with the cluster munition are moving the the needle.

RUS can't even bury their dead. The corpses are simply mouldering around their trenches.

Oh, I agree that it was always going to be this way. General Mark Milley has been warning for like a year now that it would be extremely difficult to eject Russia military from Ukraine which is why he seemed to want Ukraine to start negotiating a long time ago.

Both sides are taking big casualties including Ukraine, even if they don't want to admit precisely how big.

clambake
08-12-2023, 08:20 PM
Why is this important? The HIMARS missiles, PATRIOT batteries and missiles, Javelins, artillery shells, and on and on that we donate have to be replaced at our expense. Of course this also potentially risks our own readiness to meet our various global defense treaty commitments because the replacements can't be manufactured quickly enough.



Oh, I agree that it was always going to be this way. General Mark Milley has been warning for like a year now that it would be extremely difficult to eject Russia military from Ukraine which is why he seemed to want Ukraine to start negotiating a long time ago.

Both sides are taking big casualties including Ukraine, even if they don't want to admit precisely how big.
You understand they’re fighting for their survival, right?

Why don’t you just say it?

DMX7
08-12-2023, 08:32 PM
You understand they’re fighting for their survival, right?

Why don’t you just say it?

They're fighting to reclaim lost territory. This fighting could end with a ceasefire very quickly but it would effectively lock in territorial gains for Russia, so Ukraine doesn't want it -- not while we're sending so much aid.

daboom1
08-12-2023, 08:36 PM
"Make sure you're right........."

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"Then give RG & Effy a 12 incher-a-piece."

ChumpDumper
08-12-2023, 08:45 PM
They're fighting to reclaim lost territory. This fighting could end with a ceasefire very quickly but it would effectively lock in territorial gains for Russia, so Ukraine doesn't want it -- not while we're sending so much aid.

So we should stop sending aid?

clambake
08-12-2023, 08:55 PM
They're fighting to reclaim lost territory. This fighting could end with a ceasefire very quickly but it would effectively lock in territorial gains for Russia, so Ukraine doesn't want it -- not while we're sending so much aid.

They are fighting for survival from an unprovoked invasion. Not sure why you think their reclaiming land is the goal…………

Unless you’re completely full of shit.

DMX7
08-12-2023, 09:04 PM
So we should stop sending aid?

We should scale it back dramatically and make clear to Ukraine that we didn't agree to finance the reclaiming of all lost territory including territory lost before the full scale invasion last year (e.g., Crimea and others). And it's not just about money at this point, we're giving huge amounts of military ammo and equipment that we need for ourselves especially if Taiwan's defense is as high priority as US government makes it out to be. No doubt this is why the Pentagon doesn't want to give away F-16 and ATACMS from our own stock.

clambake
08-12-2023, 09:06 PM
I’ve noticed your post in this thread.

You sound pro russian. A pro russian offering what he/she thinks is best for Ukrainians.




Why don’t you just say it?

clambake
08-12-2023, 09:08 PM
We should scale it back dramatically and make clear to Ukraine that we didn't agree to finance the reclaiming of all lost territory including territory lost before the full scale invasion last year (e.g., Crimea and others). And it's not just about money at this point, we're giving huge amounts of military ammo and equipment that we need for ourselves especially if Taiwan's defense is as high priority as US government makes it out to be. No doubt this is why the Pentagon doesn't want to give away F-16 and ATACMS from our own stock.
Have you met snakeboy?

DMX7
08-12-2023, 09:13 PM
They are fighting for survival from an unprovoked invasion. Not sure why you think their reclaiming land is the goal…………

Unless you’re completely full of shit.

What the hell do you think the point of the counter-offensive is? It's to reclaim lost territory.

And why do you think Russia is so dug in defensively? It's because they've given up their ambition to destroy the Ukrainian state -- now they simply want to secure Crimea and the other territories Ukraine is trying to take back.

It's not complicated.

DMX7
08-12-2023, 09:16 PM
I’ve noticed your post in this thread.

You sound pro russian. A pro russian offering what he/she thinks is best for Ukrainians.




Why don’t you just say it?

I'm saying what I think is best for USA. If all you got in return is new "mccarthyisms", then you've discredited yourself without my help.

clambake
08-12-2023, 09:18 PM
What the hell do you think the point of the counter-offensive is? It's to reclaim lost territory.

And why do you think Russia is so dug in defensively? It's because they've given up their ambition to destroy the Ukrainian state -- now they simply want to secure Crimea and the other territories Ukraine is trying to take back.

It's not complicated.

The only one saying russia has “dropped their ambitions” is you.

Why don’t you just say it?

clambake
08-12-2023, 09:22 PM
Waiting for that “russia just wants a little” confirmation.

That would shut me up

Can you provide that?

Ef-man
08-12-2023, 09:26 PM
In a few days? :lmao :lmao :lmao

Where is hater hiding?

https://twitter.com/randymot4/status/1690427988586778624

Ef-man
08-12-2023, 09:30 PM
https://twitter.com/BDeMayo/status/1690334463153045504

DMX7
08-12-2023, 09:44 PM
Waiting for that “russia just wants a little” confirmation.


The layers and layers of defensive trench systems and countless number mines planted by Russia make it pretty clear Russia isn't planning a major offensive. Occupying new territory requires man power. It's doesn't have the manpower or weapons to do it at this point.

Thread
08-12-2023, 10:00 PM
Waiting for that “russia just wants a little” confirmation.

That would shut me up

Can you provide that?

They already got 20% and that Zap Nuclear Plant.

Thread
08-12-2023, 10:02 PM
The layers and layers of defensive trench systems and countless number mines planted by Russia make it pretty clear Russia isn't planning a major offensive. Occupying new territory requires man power. It's doesn't have the manpower or weapons to do it at this point.


They already got 20% and that Zap Nuclear Plant.

clambake
08-12-2023, 10:15 PM
The layers and layers of defensive trench systems and countless number mines planted by Russia make it pretty clear Russia isn't planning a major offensive. Occupying new territory requires man power. It's doesn't have the manpower or weapons to do it at this point.

I could just say “shit man, they’re diggin in cuz they got no support and don’t wanna be there”

Cute how you promote this shit

Ef-man
08-12-2023, 10:21 PM
https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1690023780632920065

ChumpDumper
08-12-2023, 10:26 PM
We should scale it back dramatically and make clear to Ukraine that we didn't agree to finance the reclaiming of all lost territory including territory lost before the full scale invasion last year (e.g., Crimea and others). And it's not just about money at this point, we're giving huge amounts of military ammo and equipment that we need for ourselves especially if Taiwan's defense is as high priority as US government makes it out to be. No doubt this is why the Pentagon doesn't want to give away F-16 and ATACMS from our own stock.
We can make more ammo.

Russia really can't.

The official US policy for Taiwan is still strategic ambiguity.

Ef-man
08-12-2023, 10:27 PM
Still good story worth repeating.

https://twitter.com/saintjavelin/status/1690313231724593152

ElNono
08-12-2023, 10:44 PM
We should scale it back dramatically and make clear to Ukraine that we didn't agree to finance the reclaiming of all lost territory including territory lost before the full scale invasion last year (e.g., Crimea and others).

But we did agree to that. We agreed to support the entirety of Ukraine efforts to repel the invader, and that includes Crimea. Not to mention that Crimea also has strategic importance due to Sevastopol and the Black Sea.

The only country that has any authority to make concessions in future diplomatic talks is Ukraine.

Ef-man
08-12-2023, 10:58 PM
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1690550019236265986

clambake
08-12-2023, 11:20 PM
What kinda person sympathizes with an unprovoked invading army?

FuzzyLumpkins
08-12-2023, 11:58 PM
The layers and layers of defensive trench systems and countless number mines planted by Russia make it pretty clear Russia isn't planning a major offensive. Occupying new territory requires man power. It's doesn't have the manpower or weapons to do it at this point.

That is because of the aid NATO is giving them. Take away the aid and Russia is right back to tan offensive to wipe Ukraine off the map.

Putin's goals are not hard to fathom. They are the same goals of the intelligence clique he was in while part of the Stassi. They want all of the territory of the Warsaw Pact because it makes them highly defensible from any ground based offensive. He wrote about it in his manifesto.

This notion that we can pull back aid and everything would be rosy doesn't hold water.

Ef-man
08-12-2023, 11:58 PM
https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1690095852348391425

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08-13-2023, 12:00 AM
https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

velik_m
08-13-2023, 12:31 AM
1690565601587048448

1690550019236265986

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08-13-2023, 03:09 AM
https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

DMX7
08-13-2023, 09:53 AM
That is because of the aid NATO is giving them. Take away the aid and Russia is right back to tan offensive to wipe Ukraine off the map.

Putin's goals are not hard to fathom. They are the same goals of the intelligence clique he was in while part of the Stassi. They want all of the territory of the Warsaw Pact because it makes them highly defensible from any ground based offensive. He wrote about it in his manifesto.

This notion that we can pull back aid and everything would be rosy doesn't hold water.


European countries are welcome to continue giving aid to Ukraine. We've committed more military aid to Ukraine then all of them combined. If Ukraine scales back or abandons its counter-offensive ambitions and preserves the forces that were to be committed to that, then it will still have a lot to defend the territory that isn't already occupied by Russia and wouldn't need nearly as much aid. Russia is in a defensive posture anyway, because it's simply trying to hold on to the territories it currently occupies. Putin's goals have changed because reality has changed. Russia has clearly abandoned its ambitions of "taking Kiev" because of all the losses they've taken.

I want to see Ukraine work towards a ceasefire, but like I said, Russia wants that to lock in territorial gains and therefore Ukraine doesn't want that -- not while it continues to receive so much from the West.

Thread
08-13-2023, 09:58 AM
European countries are welcome to continue giving aid to Ukraine. We've committed more military aid to Ukraine then all of them combined. If Ukraine scales back or abandons its counter-offensive ambitions and preserves the forces that were to be committed to that, then it will still have a lot to defend the territory that isn't already occupied by Russia and wouldn't need nearly as much aid. Russia is in a defensive posture anyway, because it's simply trying to hold on to the territories it currently occupies. Putin's goals have changed because reality has changed. Russia has clearly abandoned its ambitions of "taking Kiev" because of all the losses they've taken.

I want to see Ukraine work towards a ceasefire, but like I said, Russia wants that to lock in territorial gains and therefore Ukraine doesn't want that -- not while it continues to receive so much from the West.


...and now that Maui has been burn't to the water line that squattin' fuck in the White House needs to send them not goody bags & swag & c-rations, but, cold.hard.fuckin'.cash.

Chop/chop.

DMX7
08-13-2023, 10:07 AM
We can make more ammo.

Russia really can't.

The official US policy for Taiwan is still strategic ambiguity.

Maybe so, but...


"We agree with what we signed onto a long time ago," the president said. "And that there's one China policy, and Taiwan makes their own judgments about their independence. We are not moving-- we're not encouraging their being independent. We're not-- that-- that's their decision."

"But would U.S. forces defend the island?" Pelley asked.

"Yes, if in fact there was an unprecedented attack," Mr. Biden said.

"So unlike Ukraine, to be clear, sir," Pelley said, "U.S. forces, U.S. men and women would defend Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion?"

"Yes," the president said.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-joe-biden-taiwan-60-minutes-2022-09-18/

Ef-man
08-13-2023, 10:11 AM
Uh-huh

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1690646919402356736

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08-13-2023, 10:16 AM
"Make sure you're right........."

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ba48dcb/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3597x2398+0+0/resize/840x560!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F6b%2F19%2F90f91d9845 52afaf067dce88dcef%2Fap22052583150339.jpg





























































































"Then give RG & Effy a 12 incher-a-piece."

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08-13-2023, 10:17 AM
https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

pgardn
08-13-2023, 10:23 AM
European countries are welcome to continue giving aid to Ukraine. We've committed more military aid to Ukraine then all of them combined. If Ukraine scales back or abandons its counter-offensive ambitions and preserves the forces that were to be committed to that, then it will still have a lot to defend the territory that isn't already occupied by Russia and wouldn't need nearly as much aid. Russia is in a defensive posture anyway, because it's simply trying to hold on to the territories it currently occupies. Putin's goals have changed because reality has changed. Russia has clearly abandoned its ambitions of "taking Kiev" because of all the losses they've taken.

I want to see Ukraine work towards a ceasefire, but like I said, Russia wants that to lock in territorial gains and therefore Ukraine doesn't want that -- not while it continues to receive so much from the West.

We have contributed very little compared to the rest based on GDP.
As No No said, this is a long term investment for us economically because we will have even more say on keeping commerce open. This is why we continually infringe upon China's artificial barriers in the South China sea. One of the most 5 most important shipping lanes exists there. And this is a ton of money we have put in over the years to keep this Pacific fleet up and running. We will not have our commerce disrupted. This IS the economic view.

As far as the war view: Russia will not stop at Ukraine. Look at their recent history in the region. They need a beat down badly. And they are getting it and need to be continually degraded.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50MusF365U0

And a big STAR for you. Thank you for arguing sincerely. We need this sort of thing happening more often. No joke, thanks for your input. Our military does a very bad job of inventory checking and waste. see videoabove

daboom1
08-13-2023, 10:23 AM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



https://i1.wp.com/www.onegreenplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/uglybird.jpg?fit=1200%2C713&ssl=1

pgardn
08-13-2023, 10:30 AM
Im sure Christian Chrissy made a good solid argument.
I just cant see it.

ChumpDumper
08-13-2023, 10:42 AM
Maybe so, but...



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-joe-biden-taiwan-60-minutes-2022-09-18/

The fact you said "maybe" says it all.

daboom1
08-13-2023, 10:47 AM
"Make sure you're right........."

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ba48dcb/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3597x2398+0+0/resize/840x560!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F6b%2F19%2F90f91d9845 52afaf067dce88dcef%2Fap22052583150339.jpg





























































































"Then give Peegs & Effy a 12 incher-a-piece."

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08-13-2023, 01:20 PM
As far as the war view: Russia will not stop at Ukraine. Look at their recent history in the region. They need a beat down badly. And they are getting it and need to be continually degraded.

Please. Putin took both of their Nuclear Plants and then forced the assholes to take the poisoned Nuclear Plant back.

Putin

Ef-man
08-13-2023, 01:45 PM
Five mines per square meter, no wonder it is slow going.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1690780297439182848

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08-13-2023, 02:26 PM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



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koriwhat
08-13-2023, 02:49 PM
Fuck Ukraine! All you progressive trannies should pull yourselves up by yalls bra straps and head on out to Ukraine to fight the good fight that yall keep beating the drum for. Fucking losers!

ChumpDumper
08-13-2023, 04:25 PM
Fuck Ukraine! All you progressive trannies should pull yourselves up by yalls bra straps and head on out to Ukraine to fight the good fight that yall keep beating the drum for. Fucking losers!

UR gay.

Thread
08-13-2023, 04:49 PM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



https://i1.wp.com/www.onegreenplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/uglybird.jpg?fit=1200%2C713&ssl=1

daboom1
08-13-2023, 06:03 PM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/biden.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=978


GRADE A BASTARD!!!

Ef-man
08-13-2023, 06:12 PM
Hater! :lol


https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1690794323623694337

pgardn
08-13-2023, 06:46 PM
UR gay.

He has zero fkn clue.
And I think he cross-dresses before every post.

That hangup cant be fixed.

Thread
08-13-2023, 07:23 PM
"Make sure you're right........."

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ba48dcb/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3597x2398+0+0/resize/840x560!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F6b%2F19%2F90f91d9845 52afaf067dce88dcef%2Fap22052583150339.jpg





























































































"Then give Peegs & Effy a 12 incher-a-piece."

Ef-man
08-13-2023, 07:42 PM
Russians will take the town in a few days; they are just begging for more reinforcements :lmao

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1690869487015235584

FuzzyLumpkins
08-13-2023, 07:45 PM
European countries are welcome to continue giving aid to Ukraine. We've committed more military aid to Ukraine then all of them combined. If Ukraine scales back or abandons its counter-offensive ambitions and preserves the forces that were to be committed to that, then it will still have a lot to defend the territory that isn't already occupied by Russia and wouldn't need nearly as much aid. Russia is in a defensive posture anyway, because it's simply trying to hold on to the territories it currently occupies. Putin's goals have changed because reality has changed. Russia has clearly abandoned its ambitions of "taking Kiev" because of all the losses they've taken.

I want to see Ukraine work towards a ceasefire, but like I said, Russia wants that to lock in territorial gains and therefore Ukraine doesn't want that -- not while it continues to receive so much from the West.

Again, you take away that aid and that defensive posture goes back on the offense. You seem to put all the onus on Ukraine and not consider Russia's position, goals, or culpability.

Thread
08-13-2023, 08:12 PM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



https://i1.wp.com/www.onegreenplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/uglybird.jpg?fit=1200%2C713&ssl=1

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08-13-2023, 08:15 PM
Again, you take away that aid and that defensive posture goes back on the offense. You seem to put all the onus on Ukraine and not consider Russia's position, goals, or culpability.

...they already got the 20%, water access in the south and that Zap nuclear plant.

Ukr/Nazi's need those American aviators in those fighter jets. Go ahead, try it, you won't believe what'll happen next even as it's happening.

DMX7
08-13-2023, 08:37 PM
Again, you take away that aid and that defensive posture goes back on the offense. You seem to put all the onus on Ukraine and not consider Russia's position, goals, or culpability.

I don't envision a greatly diminished and now mostly conscript Russian army marching back to try to "take Kiev".

Russia can play defense effectively but little else. Ukraine has enough to defend what it currently has with aid that is much more limited, and it'll still get more Leopard tanks, artillery shells and fighter jets from Europe that have already been committed.

FuzzyLumpkins
08-13-2023, 09:12 PM
I don't envision a greatly diminished and now mostly conscript Russian army marching back to try to "take Kiev".

Russia can play defense effectively but little else. Ukraine has enough to defend what it currently has with aid that is much more limited, and it'll still get more Leopard tanks, artillery shells and fighter jets from Europe that have already been committed.

Again they cannot perform offensive operations because of said aid. We stop providing anti air and artillery support and Russia will be able to use the combined arms tactics that to this point they have not been able to. You would essentially be allowing the Hinds and Su-30's free reign, remove the ability for Ukraine to go after their supply infrastructure, and seriously mitigate the Ukrainian ability to repel assaults.

Russia has a long history of winning by throwing 'conscripts' into the meat grinder.

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08-13-2023, 09:41 PM
I don't envision a greatly diminished and now mostly conscript Russian army marching back to try to "take Kiev".

Russia can play defense effectively but little else. Ukraine has enough to defend what it currently has with aid that is much more limited, and it'll still get more Leopard tanks, artillery shells and fighter jets from Europe that have already been committed.


...they already got the 20%, water access in the south and that Zap nuclear plant.

Ukr/Nazi's need those American aviators in those fighter jets. Go ahead, try it, you won't believe what'll happen next even as it's happening.

Thread
08-13-2023, 09:44 PM
Again they cannot perform offensive operations because of said aid. We stop providing anti air and artillery support and Russia will be able to use the combined arms tactics that to this point they have not been able to. You would essentially be allowing the Hinds and Su-30's free reign, remove the ability for Ukraine to go after their supply infrastructure, and seriously mitigate the Ukrainian ability to repel assaults.

Russia has a long history of winning by throwing 'conscripts' into the meat grinder.

How the fuck do you think they beat the Nazi's in 2? The meat grinder. We sure weren't gonna do the wet work. We sure weren't gonna hit the White men with a nuke and then...Truman: "Again."

Now? The Nazi's are back in there, well, been in there the entire time. And we knew it all the time.

RandomGuy
08-13-2023, 11:28 PM
Why is this important? The HIMARS missiles, PATRIOT batteries and missiles, Javelins, artillery shells, and on and on that we donate have to be replaced at our expense. Of course this also potentially risks our own readiness to meet our various global defense treaty commitments because the replacements can't be manufactured quickly enough.

What we have given them ammunition aside, has been older stuff in storage that was ultimately just costing us money, and that we were going to have to pay to dispose of anyway.

Totaling it all up and it is a small fraction of what we spend EVERY YEAR. We have sacrificed practically nothing in terms of security, and gotten to destroy one of our longtime rivals where they will never recover from.

Further, we have figured out (yet again) that we aren't making enough arty ammo. This lessen gets learned by every country that goes to war.

velik_m
08-14-2023, 12:38 AM
Iran backs Japan’s call for Kuril Islands talks with Russia amid Moscow ‘betrayal’ in Gulf territorial dispute

A top Iranian official has expressed support for Japan's call for negotiations with Russia over the disputed Kuril Islands, amid feelings of betrayal in Tehran over Moscow’s backing of the UAE demand for talks over three Iranian islands in the Persian Gulf.

Kamal Kharrazi, head of Iran’s Strategic Council on Foreign Relations, told Japan's ambassador to Tehran that the best resolution to the territorial dispute over the four southernmost Kuril Islands annexed by Russia after WWII would be through “direct negotiations”.

Iran's decision to add to tensions over the Kuril Islands disagreement might hint that all is not well in the political, economic and defence cooperation that has sprung from Tehran's supportive approach to Moscow over the Russia-Ukraine war, which has included the delivery of hundreds of Iranian attack drones to the Kremlin. There is some speculation that Iran is unhappy that Russia has failed to deliver it military kit including Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets, while Tehran could also be wary of the consequences of being too closely aligned with Russia as its international isolation deepens.

...

https://bne.eu/iran-backs-japan-s-call-for-kuril-islands-talks-with-russia-amid-moscow-betrayal-in-gulf-territorial-dispute-285361/

Russian "allies" :lol

ElNono
08-14-2023, 01:24 AM
Maybe so, but...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-joe-biden-taiwan-60-minutes-2022-09-18/

We don't have the bulk of our troops held up in Ukraine (or Afghanistan for that matter). That is actually one thing this administration has done correctly.

Ef-man
08-14-2023, 01:42 AM
C'est la vie

https://twitter.com/BBCWillVernon/status/1690970084150333440

Ef-man
08-14-2023, 01:51 AM
https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1690941223865815040

velik_m
08-14-2023, 04:14 AM
1690995363426054144

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08-14-2023, 05:09 AM
"Make sure you're right........."

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ba48dcb/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3597x2398+0+0/resize/840x560!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F6b%2F19%2F90f91d9845 52afaf067dce88dcef%2Fap22052583150339.jpg





























































































"Then give Peegs & Effy a 12 incher-a-piece."

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08-14-2023, 05:09 AM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



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velik_m
08-14-2023, 05:59 AM
1691029635050487808

Ef-man
08-14-2023, 08:16 AM
Hater is ready to call Kupyansk


The Russians will take Kupyansk in a few days.


Calling it now....

Here we are, a few days later and no signs of russians taking Kupyansk.

Called hater’s retarded kiss of dearth! :lmao

Must be using a special 3-5 day SMO math!!!! :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

daboom1
08-14-2023, 08:53 AM
AN OLDIE, BUT A GOODY...

CHARGE!!!




https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/c3086cc6-4649-470d-b67d-1daafd5e9ee0.JPG

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08-14-2023, 10:49 AM
"Make sure you're right........."

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ba48dcb/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3597x2398+0+0/resize/840x560!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F6b%2F19%2F90f91d9845 52afaf067dce88dcef%2Fap22052583150339.jpg





























































































"Then give Peegs & Effy a 12 incher-a-piece."

Thread
08-14-2023, 10:49 AM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



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velik_m
08-14-2023, 12:01 PM
1691116241438814208

1691117408294182912

ChumpDumper
08-14-2023, 12:34 PM
Here we are, a few days later and no signs of russians taking Kupyansk.

Called hater’s retarded kiss of dearth! :lmao

Must be using a special 3-5 day SMO math!!!! :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

He's still reeling from the fact that Ukraine took it back in 5 days a year ago.:lol

Thread
08-14-2023, 12:42 PM
1691116241438814208

1691117408294182912

It's okay, Maui looks like the upper Western seaboard after Trump wasted Hillary, but knock yourselves out.

Thread
08-14-2023, 12:43 PM
He's still reeling from the fact that Ukraine took it back in 5 days a year ago.:lol

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLhb6ArBsfgzaF9DDMVLdh1R1654mie 2mqE61iucmL_vEUFmUjEKrbRSpoHQ&s

RandomGuy
08-14-2023, 03:22 PM
Hater is ready to call Kupyansk


The Russians will take Kupyansk in a few days.


Calling it now....

:lmao

How's the ruble doing?



:lmao :lmao :lmao

They all will be paying in rubles :lmao

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1526266440684388352

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3el9HhagAAoe3j?format=jpg&name=large

:lmao

Here is your "L". You can add it to the pile.

RandomGuy
08-14-2023, 03:38 PM
Todays american diplomacy :lol

Putins team already been around the world (venezuela, n korea, iran, syria, china, cuba, vietnam, indonesia, s arabia, yes even israel) already cutting deals in case of war.

All we been doing is parrot that we will impose crippling economic sanctions on them :lmao

We are as ready for this war as Chumpfumpster is ready to stop taking boosters :lol

RandomGuy
08-14-2023, 03:42 PM
Turkey in NATO is the real joke. Now that the Russians have naval bases in Syria turkey has lost a lot of strategic value.

Istanbul says hi.

RandomGuy
08-14-2023, 03:52 PM
Moves to Checkmate

Despite the repeated Western warnings, Russia is highly unlikely to invade Ukraine — at least not yet. Instead, Russia appears to be entering a new phase of crisis management that seeks to exploit the weaknesses in the US/Nato alliance highlighted by their written responses to its demands.

First, Russia will keep the diplomatic option open, but on its terms. Moscow has already engaged in so-called Normandy Format talks involving Russia, France, the Germany and Ukraine over the ongoing crisis in Donbas. In the initial meeting, all parties agreed to respect the cease-fire in effect and to meet again in 10 days — the exact opposite of any imminent invasion by Russia. Note the absence of the US and Nato from these talks.

Next, Russia will turn the threat of sanctions against the US and Europe. Russia has already declared that banning it from the Swift system for international monetary transactions will result in the immediate halt of Russian energy supplies to Europe. Russia is expected to sign major economic agreements with China soon that will further insulate it from economic sanctions. China has made it clear it supports Russia in the current crisis, recognizing that if the West prevails against Russia, it will soon face a similar attack.

Finally, Russia will exploit US hypocrisy on spheres of influence and military alliances by entering military relationships with Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua and deploying a naval squadron to the Caribbean, with the potential for additional force deployments in the future.

With these three measures, Russia seeks to further isolate the US from Nato and Europe. In the end, the US will be confronted with one of two options, either agree to trade Nato’s open-door policy for Russian agreement not to deploy into the Western Hemisphere, or force a confrontation that will result in a Russian invasion of Ukraine that is seen by Europe as being the fault of the US.

The chess pieces are already being moved. While the US may not see it, a Russian checkmate can be predicted sooner, rather than later.

Scott Ritter is a former US Marine Corps intelligence officer whose service over a 20-plus-year career included tours of duty in the former Soviet Union implementing arms control agreements, serving on the staff of US Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf during the Gulf War and later as a chief weapons inspector with the UN in Iraq from 1991-98.

This Scott Ritter? The one that masturbated with what he thought was a 15 year old girl. (but was a police detective)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3hRE68XkAAtDoe?format=png&name=small

:lmao

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08-14-2023, 04:01 PM
AN OLDIE, BUT A GOODY...

CHARGE!!!




https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/c3086cc6-4649-470d-b67d-1daafd5e9ee0.JPG

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08-14-2023, 04:02 PM
:lmao

How's the ruble doing?




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3el9HhagAAoe3j?format=jpg&name=large

:lmao

Here is your "L". You can add it to the pile.




Istanbul says hi.


This Scott Ritter? The one that masturbated with what he thought was a 15 year old girl. (but was a police detective)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3hRE68XkAAtDoe?format=png&name=small

:lmao


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLhb6ArBsfgzaF9DDMVLdh1R1654mie 2mqE61iucmL_vEUFmUjEKrbRSpoHQ&s

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08-14-2023, 04:03 PM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



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daboom1
08-14-2023, 06:59 PM
https://i.ibb.co/1rJ6gZL/20230814-185802.jpg

daboom1
08-14-2023, 06:59 PM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/biden.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=978


GRADE A BASTARD!!!

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08-14-2023, 07:00 PM
https://i.ibb.co/1rJ6gZL/20230814-185802.jpg


Tell it, Da.

Testify!!!

ChumpDumper
08-14-2023, 07:43 PM
https://i.ibb.co/1rJ6gZL/20230814-185802.jpg

:tu

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08-14-2023, 07:46 PM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



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Ef-man
08-14-2023, 09:18 PM
Bada Boom!

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1691150970351190029

Ef-man
08-14-2023, 09:25 PM
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1691020421288902656

koriwhat
08-14-2023, 10:14 PM
Fuck Ukraine!

ElNono
08-14-2023, 10:15 PM
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1691020421288902656

C'est la vie...

ElNono
08-14-2023, 10:15 PM
US announces new $200M Ukraine aid package

The U.S. on Monday announced a $200 million security assistance package for Ukraine, providing Kyiv with another round of munitions and tactical vehicles for use in the fight against Russia.

The latest package places total U.S. security assistance to Ukraine at roughly $43 billion since Russia invaded in February 2022, meaning the remaining funds for Ukrainian forces is fast approaching their limit.

The Biden administration unveiled the critical assistance for Ukraine in the midst of a major counteroffensive operation.

The package includes more munitions for advanced weapons systems coveted by Ukraine, including High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) and Patriot missile defense systems.

“Air defense, anti-armor, and munitions will keep the Ukrainian armed forces in the fight to defend their country’s sovereignty, territory, and people,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken wrote Monday on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4151858-us-announces-new-200m-ukraine-aid-package/

:tu whatever it takes

Ef-man
08-14-2023, 10:26 PM
https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1691107364345417729

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08-14-2023, 11:06 PM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



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08-14-2023, 11:06 PM
Fuck Ukraine!

Tell it, kori.

Testify!!!

Ef-man
08-14-2023, 11:58 PM
Consequences

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1691105104693522432

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08-15-2023, 08:09 AM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



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Ef-man
08-15-2023, 08:29 AM
Russia’s central bank raises interest rates to 12% after the ruble plunges. :lol

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08-15-2023, 08:39 AM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



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Ef-man
08-15-2023, 09:30 AM
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1691451263395987457

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08-15-2023, 09:31 AM
https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

Ef-man
08-15-2023, 09:31 AM
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1691411352718397440

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08-15-2023, 09:33 AM
"Make sure you're right........."

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ba48dcb/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3597x2398+0+0/resize/840x560!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F6b%2F19%2F90f91d9845 52afaf067dce88dcef%2Fap22052583150339.jpg





























































































"Then give RG & Effy a 12 incher-a-piece."

Ef-man
08-15-2023, 09:40 AM
We have contributed very little compared to the rest based on GDP.
As No No said, this is a long term investment for us economically because we will have even more say on keeping commerce open. This is why we continually infringe upon China's artificial barriers in the South China sea. One of the most 5 most important shipping lanes exists there. And this is a ton of money we have put in over the years to keep this Pacific fleet up and running. We will not have our commerce disrupted. This IS the economic view.

As far as the war view: Russia will not stop at Ukraine. Look at their recent history in the region. They need a beat down badly. And they are getting it and need to be continually degraded.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50MusF365U0

And a big STAR for you. Thank you for arguing sincerely. We need this sort of thing happening more often. No joke, thanks for your input. Our military does a very bad job of inventory checking and waste. see videoabove

https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1691152727856852992

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08-15-2023, 10:10 AM
"Make sure you're right........."

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ba48dcb/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3597x2398+0+0/resize/840x560!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F6b%2F19%2F90f91d9845 52afaf067dce88dcef%2Fap22052583150339.jpg





























































































"Then give RG & Effy a 12 incher-a-piece."


https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

RandomGuy
08-15-2023, 10:15 AM
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1691411352718397440

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1691086313624047616

hater doesn't like to acknowledge this.

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08-15-2023, 10:16 AM
https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

Ef-man
08-15-2023, 10:17 AM
Shit getting real.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1691133160422101005

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08-15-2023, 10:17 AM
"Make sure you're right........."

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ba48dcb/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3597x2398+0+0/resize/840x560!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F6b%2F19%2F90f91d9845 52afaf067dce88dcef%2Fap22052583150339.jpg





























































































"Then give RG & Effy a 12 incher-a-piece."

RandomGuy
08-15-2023, 10:59 AM
General Mobilization in all of Ukraine

ALL men 18-59 need to go to the enlistment office within 10 days.

:lol so much winnnnning

More meat shields to the frier

These warmongering mass murdering US animals werent fucking around when they said "to the last Ukranian" :lmao


https://twitter.com/tretter50001/status/1671930931681148952

https://twitter.com/TheStanislawski/status/1691404184241733632

You should understand what you are shilling for. An unrepentant corrupt empire, worse than anything you imagine the USA is.

they say it themselves in a thousand ways.

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08-15-2023, 11:06 AM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



https://i1.wp.com/www.onegreenplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/uglybird.jpg?fit=1200%2C713&ssl=1

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08-15-2023, 11:08 AM
https://twitter.com/TheStanislawski/status/1691404184241733632

You should understand what you are shilling for. An unrepentant corrupt empire, worse than anything you imagine the USA is.

they say it themselves in a thousand ways.

That is precisely the USA, kid. When you threaten the life of the duly elected President, his wife and their only child on his inauguration day you've nary room to talk about any other countryPERIOD

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08-15-2023, 11:09 AM
https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

Ef-man
08-15-2023, 01:29 PM
Gone in a flash!

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1691141063358976000

Ef-man
08-15-2023, 01:32 PM
Et tu Moldova?

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1691371118295134208

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08-15-2023, 01:32 PM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



https://i1.wp.com/www.onegreenplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/uglybird.jpg?fit=1200%2C713&ssl=1

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08-15-2023, 01:33 PM
https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

daboom1
08-15-2023, 01:50 PM
https://i.ibb.co/3WfngFh/TELEMMGLPICT000175089718-trans-Nv-BQz-QNjv4-Bq-Pk-PWLXP-i-G-X2-Wo3-V95-CSi-Qq-S8-SC6-KQxp1-Hw8kfvvtg.jpg



"This time dude; right-between-the-eyes."

koriwhat
08-15-2023, 01:56 PM
Fuck Ukraine!

Thread
08-15-2023, 03:54 PM
Fuck Ukraine!

Fuckin' eh!!!

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08-16-2023, 12:26 AM
https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

Ef-man
08-16-2023, 02:17 AM
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1691697381300117629

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08-16-2023, 08:28 AM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



https://i1.wp.com/www.onegreenplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/uglybird.jpg?fit=1200%2C713&ssl=1



https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg


https://i.ibb.co/3WfngFh/TELEMMGLPICT000175089718-trans-Nv-BQz-QNjv4-Bq-Pk-PWLXP-i-G-X2-Wo3-V95-CSi-Qq-S8-SC6-KQxp1-Hw8kfvvtg.jpg



"This time dude; right-between-the-eyes."

Ef-man
08-16-2023, 09:32 AM
Thank you putler!

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1691811302895706247

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08-16-2023, 09:39 AM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



https://i1.wp.com/www.onegreenplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/uglybird.jpg?fit=1200%2C713&ssl=1



https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg


https://i.ibb.co/3WfngFh/TELEMMGLPICT000175089718-trans-Nv-BQz-QNjv4-Bq-Pk-PWLXP-i-G-X2-Wo3-V95-CSi-Qq-S8-SC6-KQxp1-Hw8kfvvtg.jpg



"This time dude; right-between-the-eyes."

velik_m
08-16-2023, 09:40 AM
1691807142074851421

1691800572150616141

1691787069389955092

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08-16-2023, 09:43 AM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



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velik_m
08-16-2023, 09:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ol0M6P9LLY

Ef-man
08-16-2023, 09:45 AM
:lol

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1691067326387380225

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08-16-2023, 09:47 AM
https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg




https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg



https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg
[/QUOTE]

velik_m
08-16-2023, 09:47 AM
Russia on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown
Liza Alexandrova-Zorina
Translated by Natasha Perova & Sally Foreman

This essay, from our archive, was first published in May 2017.

The triumph of inertia

In Russia, the opposition will not stand in opposition. Citizens will not stand up for civic rights. The Russian people suffer from a victim complex: they believe that nothing depends on them, and by them nothing can be changed.

‘It’s always been so’, they say, signing off on their civic impotence. The economic dislocation of the nineties, the cheerless noughties, and now President Vladimir Putin’s iron rule – with its fake elections, corrupt bureaucracy, monopolization of mass media, political trials and ban on protest – have inculcated a feeling of total helplessness. People do not vote in elections: ‘They’ll choose for us anyway;’ they don’t attend public demonstrations: ‘They’ll be dispersed anyway;’ they don’t fight for their rights: ‘We’re alive, and thank god for that.’

A 140-million-strong population exists in a somnambulistic state, on the verge of losing the last trace of their survival instinct. They hate the authorities, but have a pathological fear of change. They feel injustice, but cannot tolerate activists. They hate bureaucracy, but submit to total state control over all spheres of life. They are afraid of the police, but support the expansion of police control. They know they are constantly being deceived, but believe the lies fed to them on television.

...


https://granta.com/russia-verge-nervous-breakdown/

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08-16-2023, 09:49 AM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



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velik_m
08-16-2023, 11:09 AM
1691820340890980464

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08-16-2023, 11:20 AM
https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg




https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg



https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

velik_m
08-16-2023, 12:31 PM
1691781484045062573

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08-16-2023, 12:46 PM
1691781484045062573

It's war you silly SOB, you. And even this dumb fuck Putin has forgotten his WW2 roots and is fighting (America in Vietnam style) after the dumb fuck got run out of Afghan for doing it the aforementioned Vietnam style.

The saving grace? Z & Biden are fighting it the same way (America in Vietnam style), thank Christ, even after Biden too got run out of Afghan for doing it the aforementioned Vietnam style.

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08-16-2023, 12:48 PM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



https://i1.wp.com/www.onegreenplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/uglybird.jpg?fit=1200%2C713&ssl=1



https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg


https://i.ibb.co/3WfngFh/TELEMMGLPICT000175089718-trans-Nv-BQz-QNjv4-Bq-Pk-PWLXP-i-G-X2-Wo3-V95-CSi-Qq-S8-SC6-KQxp1-Hw8kfvvtg.jpg



"This time dude; right-between-the-eyes."

daboom1
08-16-2023, 12:57 PM
Invictus



Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank what ever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.



In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scrolls,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.


https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg

Ef-man
08-16-2023, 12:58 PM
1691820340890980464

He died of a long illness that started on the 25 floor and lasted until he hit the pavement, sad.

Thread
08-16-2023, 01:15 PM
Invictus



Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank what ever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.



In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scrolls,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.


https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg

daboom1
08-16-2023, 01:22 PM
"Make sure you're right........."

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/ba48dcb/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3597x2398+0+0/resize/840x560!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F6b%2F19%2F90f91d9845 52afaf067dce88dcef%2Fap22052583150339.jpg





























































































"Then give RG & Effy a 12 incher-a-piece."

Ef-man
08-16-2023, 01:27 PM
He died of a long illness that started on the 25 floor and lasted until he hit the pavement, sad.

It was a twofer!!! Those windows are dangerous.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1691860833989521600

velik_m
08-16-2023, 02:20 PM
1691711727795130692

After you're forgotten, you will fall out the window...

Ef-man
08-16-2023, 02:27 PM
1691711727795130692

After you're forgotten, you will fall out the window...

Or pass on to the undiscovered country after accidentally drinking a cup of putler's fortified tea. :lol

Thread
08-16-2023, 02:45 PM
Invictus



Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank what ever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.



In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scrolls,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.


https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg

koriwhat
08-16-2023, 03:21 PM
Fuck Ukraine!

Thread
08-16-2023, 03:28 PM
Fuck Ukraine!

Like in -Pulp Fiction-...

- "Yee Haw!!!"

- "Zed"

Ef-man
08-16-2023, 04:12 PM
Shame.

https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1691797009496162368

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08-16-2023, 04:25 PM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



https://i1.wp.com/www.onegreenplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/uglybird.jpg?fit=1200%2C713&ssl=1



https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg


https://i.ibb.co/3WfngFh/TELEMMGLPICT000175089718-trans-Nv-BQz-QNjv4-Bq-Pk-PWLXP-i-G-X2-Wo3-V95-CSi-Qq-S8-SC6-KQxp1-Hw8kfvvtg.jpg



"This time dude; right-between-the-eyes."

Ef-man
08-16-2023, 04:27 PM
https://twitter.com/Sputnik_Not/status/1691531660171386880

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08-16-2023, 04:30 PM
https://twitter.com/Sputnik_Not/status/1691531660171386880

At least he ain't bringing drugs in like our southern border.

spurraider21
08-16-2023, 04:40 PM
Invictus



Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank what ever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.



In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scrolls,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.



1351882101348556803

Ef-man
08-16-2023, 04:40 PM
Hater is ready to call Kupyansk


The Russians will take Kupyansk in a few days.


Calling it now....

Where the fuck is hater after this calling it now? A few days! :lmao

Thread
08-16-2023, 05:03 PM
Invictus



Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank what ever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.



In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scrolls,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.


https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg

Ef-man
08-16-2023, 05:06 PM
Whatever it takes!

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1691831329065701618

Thread
08-16-2023, 05:08 PM
Whatever it takes!

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1691831329065701618

First he kissed MBS ass after swearing he'd hold him for murder of the Yogi scribe.
Now he's kissing Iranian ass in support of the Nazi's in Ukraine.

tee, hee.

boutons_deux
08-16-2023, 05:18 PM
UKr hit airports on Crimea, so no land routes, no air routes. Crimea in bad shape.

UKr drone kamikaze boats hitting all the Russian fleet, some kamakaze are taken out, but many are damaging, even sinking, Russian fleet

Belarus wants all Wagners and Russian army OUT of Belarus.

Belarus prez knows which side is going to win, could be angling for EU membership in a few years, since being a puppet state to Pootin has no future.

Pootin's strategic bet on EU folding after he cut the gas has been lost.

Europe has had a historically mild winter, reduced gas heating needs,

and quickly replaced Russian gas and oil with other sources.

koriwhat
08-16-2023, 05:23 PM
UKr hit airports on Crimea, so no land routes, no air routes. Crimea in bad shape.

UKr drone boat bombs hitting all the Russian fleet, some are taken out, but many are damaging, even sinking, Russian fleet

Belarus wants all Wagners and Russian army OUT of Belarus.

Belarus prez knows which side is going to win, could be angling for EU membership in a few years, since being a puppet state to Pootin has no future.

Pootin's strategic bet on EU folding after he cut the gas has been lost.

Europe has had a historically mild winter, reduced gas heating needs,

and quickly replaced Russian gas and oil with other sources.

IDC

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08-16-2023, 06:24 PM
UKr hit airports on Crimea, so no land routes, no air routes. Crimea in bad shape.

UKr drone boat bombs hitting all the Russian fleet, some are taken out, but many are damaging, even sinking, Russian fleet

Belarus wants all Wagners and Russian army OUT of Belarus.

Belarus prez knows which side is going to win, could be angling for EU membership in a few years, since being a puppet state to Pootin has no future.

Pootin's strategic bet on EU folding after he cut the gas has been lost.

Europe has had a historically mild winter, reduced gas heating needs,

and quickly replaced Russian gas and oil with other sources.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLhb6ArBsfgzaF9DDMVLdh1R1654mie 2mqE61iucmL_vEUFmUjEKrbRSpoHQ&s

DMX7
08-16-2023, 08:43 PM
It sounds like there's probably more than one heavily indebted western country getting tired of writing financial aid checks and giving billions more in military aid to Ukraine indefinitely.

The Guardian: Nato official apologises over suggestion Ukraine could give up land for membership
Secretary general’s chief of staff says statement was ‘mistake’ and part of wider discussion – but does not completely rule out idea


At a panel event in Norway on Tuesday, Jenssen had said that while any peace deal reached would have to be acceptable to Ukraine, alliance members were discussing how the 18-month war might be brought to an end.

“I think that a solution could be for Ukraine to give up territory and get Nato membership in return,” Jenssen told his audience, noting that discussions about Ukraine’s postwar status were continuing in diplomatic circles.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/16/nato-official-suggests-ukraine-could-give-up-territory-in-exchange-for-membership

daboom1
08-16-2023, 08:47 PM
https://i.ibb.co/ZYc6T7L/20230816-204630.jpg

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08-16-2023, 09:06 PM
https://i.ibb.co/ZYc6T7L/20230816-204630.jpg

da

velik_m
08-16-2023, 11:42 PM
It sounds like there's probably more than one heavily indebted western country getting tired of writing financial aid checks and giving billions more in military aid to Ukraine indefinitely.

The Guardian: Nato official apologises over suggestion Ukraine could give up land for membership
Secretary general’s chief of staff says statement was ‘mistake’ and part of wider discussion – but does not completely rule out idea



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/16/nato-official-suggests-ukraine-could-give-up-territory-in-exchange-for-membership

Ah yes, the poor heavily indebted Norway, they will go bankrupt any moment now if they don't stop supporting Ukraine...

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08-16-2023, 11:52 PM
https://i.ibb.co/ZYc6T7L/20230816-204630.jpg

ElNono
08-17-2023, 12:11 AM
Ah yes, the poor heavily indebted Norway, they will go bankrupt any moment now if they don't stop supporting Ukraine...

Not to mention that Ukraine joining NATO is a non-starter for any "peace" discussions with Russia.

daboom1
08-17-2023, 04:37 AM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



https://i1.wp.com/www.onegreenplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/uglybird.jpg?fit=1200%2C713&ssl=1

Ef-man
08-17-2023, 05:29 AM
Never gets old.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1692118516843819267

Ef-man
08-17-2023, 05:34 AM
Got real warm, real quick in that russian defensive position.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1691948347920200168

Ef-man
08-17-2023, 05:37 AM
The training session was concluded early by Mr. HIMARS, nice.

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1691912842797261127

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08-17-2023, 08:16 AM
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Thread
08-17-2023, 08:17 AM
COCK-A-DOODLE-DO!!!!!!!!!



https://i1.wp.com/www.onegreenplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/uglybird.jpg?fit=1200%2C713&ssl=1

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08-17-2023, 08:18 AM
https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg




https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg



https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

velik_m
08-17-2023, 02:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=017WGzJ5fHA

Ef-man
08-17-2023, 03:41 PM
Hater is ready to call Kupyansk


The Russians will take Kupyansk in a few days.


Calling it now....

Six days later (more than required for a 3-5 day SMO) and bitch-ass hater is hiding! :lmao

Called it, he is the kiss of death!!!!

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08-17-2023, 03:49 PM
https://i.ibb.co/ZYc6T7L/20230816-204630.jpg


da


https://i.ibb.co/ZYc6T7L/20230816-204630.jpg

Ef-man
08-17-2023, 05:53 PM
https://twitter.com/AnnaFil_Ukraine/status/1692221178650243292

Ef-man
08-17-2023, 06:02 PM
On cluster munitions from a russian colonel (yes, they are getting screwed).

"It is not some colonel in a hospital bed that is yelling about the cluster munitions - the voices of hundreds of guys dying in terrible agony in the trenches and the widows of hundreds killed by them in just these couple of weeks are shouting to you about these problems."

https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1692265631675035906

Robz4000
08-17-2023, 06:35 PM
https://twitter.com/AnnaFil_Ukraine/status/1692221178650243292

Hope DD is doing alright tbh.

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08-17-2023, 06:45 PM
On cluster munitions from a russian colonel (yes, they are getting screwed).

"It is not some colonel in a hospital bed that is yelling about the cluster munitions - the voices of hundreds of guys dying in terrible agony in the trenches and the widows of hundreds killed by them in just these couple of weeks are shouting to you about these problems."

https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1692265631675035906


& Biden swore on the Good Book he would not stoop to Cluster Bombs as Putin had. Once Putin took their Zap Nuclear Plant, Mariupol and the water access in the South Biden did Cluster Bombs.

tee, hee.

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08-17-2023, 06:46 PM
https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg




https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg



https://www.advantour.com/russia/images/symbolics/russia-flag.jpg

DMX7
08-17-2023, 08:06 PM
Ah yes, the poor heavily indebted Norway, they will go bankrupt any moment now if they don't stop supporting Ukraine...

LMAO. He's works for NATO, he knows what NATO countries are discussing behind the scenes... USA, France, Italy, Germany, etc... These big countries are NOT Norway nor do they have Norway's finances.

FuzzyLumpkins
08-17-2023, 08:44 PM
LMAO. He's works for NATO, he knows what NATO countries are discussing behind the scenes... USA, France, Italy, Germany, etc... These big countries are NOT Norway nor do they have Norway's finances.

It does not seem unreasonable to float the idea of letting Russia keep Crimea as part of a peace deal. Similarly it is not unreasonable for the Ukrainians to want the Russians to honor their treaty they reneged on.

I am not sure what point you think you are making here.

DMX7
08-17-2023, 08:55 PM
It does not seem unreasonable to float the idea of letting Russia keep Crimea as part of a peace deal. Similarly it is not unreasonable for the Ukrainians to want the Russians to honor their treaty they reneged on.

I am not sure what point you think you are making here.

My point is this war needs to wind down and that clearly there are others in the West who think territorial losses for Ukraine are on the table in order to do so.

Not hard to understand.

Sadly, some (perhaps you) just want to plow endless resources into this war though despite the diminishing returns.

pgardn
08-17-2023, 09:26 PM
My point is this war needs to wind down and that clearly there are others in the West who think territorial losses for Ukraine are on the table in order to do so.

Not hard to understand.

Sadly, some (perhaps you) just want to plow endless resources into this war though despite the diminishing returns.

Endless resources... Im sorry thats just not the case.

Russia started this thing and the world will be better off after they have been stopped.
You think this is the last place they will try to invade? Really? You want a list of what they have gobbled up since the breakup of the Soviet Union?
Specifically when Putin became president for life? If you really want to save money cut Medicare to Boomers.
More funding is available when we decide to tax millionaires and billionaires fairly.

daboom1
08-17-2023, 10:13 PM
& Biden swore on the Good Book he would not stoop to Cluster Bombs as Putin had. Once Putin took their Zap Nuclear Plant, Mariupol and the water access in the South Biden did Cluster Bombs.

tee, hee.


^^^^^