Ukraine

[koriwhat]

Lol unprovoked outburst of rage

Rage? You really think I was "raging" here? :lmao

When you fucking pussies only know how to meltdown that's your world view; projection at its finest tbh.

[Ef-man]

:lmao

Our Board Members
General Jack Keane (US Army, Retired), Chairman, Institute for the Study of War; President, GSI, LLC

Dr. Kimberly Kagan, Founder & President, Institute for the Study of War

The Honorable Kelly Craft, Former US Ambassador to UN and Canada

Dr. William Kristol, Director, Defending Democracy Together

The Honorable Joseph I. Lieberman, Senior Council, Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman, LLP

Kevin Mandia, Chief Executive Officer & Board Director, Mandiant

Jack D. McCarthy, Jr., Senior Managing Director & Founder, A&M Capital

Bruce Mosler, Chairman, Global Brokerage, Cushman & Wakefield, Inc.

General David H. Petraeus (US Army, Retired), Member, KKR & Chairman, KKR Global Institute

Dr. Warren Phillips, Lead Director, CACI International

Colonel William Roberti (US Army, Retired), Managing Director, Alvarez & Marsal

Did any of them say the russians would not use the roads to attack Ukraine? No???

Thought so. :tu

[velik_m]

Germany to send rocket launchers and armored vehicles to Ukraine

German Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht announced on Thursday that Germany will send two more multiple rocket launchers as well as 50 armored personnel carriers to Ukraine.

On top of that, Germany will send some 200 rockets for the launchers. Ukraine has recently called on Germany to increase its weapons deliveries following a successful counteroffensive against the Russian occupation.

"We have decided to deliver two more MARS II multiple rocket launchers including 200 rockets to Ukraine," Lambrecht told a Bundeswehr conference. "On top of this, we will send 50 Dingo armored personnel carriers to Ukraine," she added.

The defense minister also said that training on the MARS II launchers for Ukrainian operators was expected to begin in September.

Greece will soon send 40 infantry fighting vehicles — Soviet-built BMP-1 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (IFVs) — to Ukraine on the completion of a deal in which Greece would receive 40 German Marder IFVs — in turn, Lambrecht said.

...

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-to-send-rocket-launchers-and-armored-vehicles-to-ukraine/a-63140371

[hater]

Its happening :wow

Xi Jinping Meets Putin, Says China Will Work With Russia As "Great Powers"
The SCO is made up of China, Russia, India, Pakistan and four Central Asian countries -- Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.

Samarkand: Chinese President Xi Jinping told his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin on Thursday that Beijing was willing to work with Moscow as "great powers" during his first trip overseas since the early days of the pandemic.
"China is willing to make efforts with Russia to assume the role of great powers, and play a guiding role to inject stability and positive energy into a world rocked by social turmoil," Xi told Putin during a leaders' summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) in Samarkand, Uzbekistan.

[hater]

Its happening :wow


Iran joins Shanghai Cooperation Organization as official memeber :wow


Holy sheeet :wow


Huge. That means Iran picked Asia as their gas market when the JCPOA restarts :wow


Europe hung out to dry :wow

[boutons_deux]

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1128900888044650

[spurraider21]

lol vlad on his knees begging for Xi's approval. basically apologized for ukraine :lmao

china clearly sees them as little brother, at best

[hater]

“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.” -Sun Tzu

Maskirovka is a Russian word meaning literally “masking” or “disguise”, but in the context of Russian military doctrine, it incorporates a wide spectrum of undertakings designed to deceive the enemy regarding strengths, weaknesses, disposition of forces, and the intentions of those forces.

[hater]

There has been much ecstatic jubilation among Ukraine-supporters, and anguished hand-wringing among Russia-supporters, that somehow Russian forces were “surprised” and “humiliated” by the recent Ukrainian counter-offensive near Kharkov.

Let me therefore be perfectly clear: the notion that the Russian high command did not see this coming is, in my confident estimation, utterly absurd.

They observed its preparations over the course of many weeks. They knew much of the NATO-provided equipment shipped into Ukraine since the spring was not being used yet in battle, and had instead been diverted and hoarded to provide the backbone of firepower for an eventual counter-stroke.

They also knew that substantial numbers of the remaining cadre of Ukrainian professional soldiers had been pulled from the front lines to form the core of this attack, and that they were being supplemented by a significant infusion of “foreign volunteers”.

They knew that the cream of the thousands of new Ukrainian conscripts had been sent to Poland and Britain for rapid training according to NATO standards.

They knew NATO commanders had effectively assumed operational command of this force, and were calling the shots as to when and where it would be deployed.

And they certainly knew that, because this force was not present in the Kherson region for the limited counter-attack that took place there earlier in August, that the southern operations were almost certainly a diversion from the primary objective, which would be in the Kharkov region.

Indeed, as the true nature of the events of the past two weeks comes into clearer focus, it is now possible to see that the Russians acted deliberately to provide the NATO commanders of this reconstituted Ukrainian force with some low-hanging fruit to blood their untested army, and provide it with a victory that would not only bolster its battlefield confidence, but more importantly serve essential political purposes at a time when western public support was flagging to a very discernible degree.

More importantly, from the Russian perspective, providing NATO commanders a temptation they could not resist would draw this fresh army into the open field of battle where it could then be isolated and ultimately destroyed.

Therefore the Russians commenced, several weeks ago, to withdraw all but a token force from the area containing the towns of Balakliya, Kupyansk, and Izyum – thereby presenting an irresistible opportunity for the commanders of this NATO-trained, NATO-equipped, and NATO-led force to demonstrate, as they imagine it, the superiority of western combined-arms warfare.

The subsequent attack achieved seemingly extraordinary success against the relative handful of Donbass militia and Rosgvardia troops left to defend Balakliya and Kupyansk. The Ukrainians and their “foreign volunteer” shock troops advanced mostly unopposed and occupied a fairly significant piece of real estate extending all the way to the Oskil River.

Relatively little soldier against soldier fighting has occurred. In fact, Ukrainian reports euphorically trumpeted the fact that the Ukrainian advance could not even keep up with the speed of the Russian retreat!

The “glorious victory” of this quasi-NATO army has – at least for the time being – launched the western media narrative into an unprecedented spasm of triumphalism.

Delusional reports of hundreds of abandoned tanks, thousands of casualties, and tens of thousands of captured Russian soldiers are circulating widely, willingly believed by those whose biases find them pleasing.

Western think-tank monkeys and retired-generals-for-hire move from one mainstream news studio to the next spouting fantastical nonsense about next liberating the Donbass, then Crimea, followed by deposing Putin and hauling him before a tribunal at The Hague.

And if that were not enough, many have even begun to openly discuss the long-desired western pipe dream of dismantling Russia altogether; cutting it up into a dozen or more smaller republics that will then obediently fall in line with the rest of the “rules-based world order”.

It’s all quite breathtaking to behold.

Few seem to be aware that the triumphant army that marched forth into the power vacuum the Russians created for them have been continually savaged by long-range artillery fire and airstrikes, which have already inflicted nearly 20% casualties upon the relatively exposed force.

Few seem to appreciate that the pace of the initially rapid advance has now effectively ground to a halt, caught between the Oskil River to the east and the Seversky-Donets to the south, and it has proven unable to achieve appreciable success against the concentrations of Russian forces it is now encountering on the other sides of those rivers.

And no one seems to be asking the most pertinent question: What will the Russians do next?

There seems to be a pervasive assumption that this apparent battlefield “victory” has been so humiliatingly complete that the Russians have been ruined; psychologically broken; that they are no longer capable of operations; that they are now a beaten, trembling mob of frightened “orcs” nervously awaiting the next train back to wherever it was they came from.

Those cheering as the victory parade rolls down the streets of Kiev, London, and Washington appear to have forgotten that Russia’s “special military operation” up to this point has employed a minor fraction of its military capability, and that the Russian objective, from the beginning, has not been to conquer territory, per se, but to comprehensively destroy Ukrainian military capabilities.

I think the Ukraine supporters might be engaging in an orgy of premature exultation.

I am persuaded the events of the past few weeks have been largely orchestrated pursuant to Russia’s ultimate objectives.

I am convinced the Russians remain masters of the art of maskirovka, and that the masters of empire in Brussels, London, and Washington – as they always have – continue to underestimate Russian strategic acumen, operational capabilities, and clever resourcefulness.

Even as NATO commanders in Kiev clink champagne flutes filled to the brim with looted Dom Perignon, and congratulate each other on a brilliantly conceived and expertly executed plan, I strongly suspect the other shoe is about to drop – and when it does, I expect it to fall like a thunderbolt on their unjustifiably inflated heads.



:wow

Damn



https://imetatronink.substack.com/p/fall-like-a-thunderbolt

[spurraider21]

“When it takes you several months to capture some territory, you should make sure to lose it all back in a few days” -Sun Tzu

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Who is Brian Berletic and where did he get his numbers?

An American posting blogs out of Thailand who champions Iran, Russia, and the like with incessant "western imperialism" rhetoric. IOW, he has no direct knowledge of anything.

He finally found a tweet that wasn't about Russia having it's worst military defeat since WW2 and switched back to the hater account to post it.

[Splits]

Yeah good idea. The Russians will take the toll road to kyev :lmao :lmao :lmao


Because thats not how you military invade a country ya dumb piece of shit :lmao

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:lmao

[hater]

1570503553789362179

:lmao

As believable as Ghost of Kiev and Babushkas destroying drones with Pickle Jars :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Winehole23]

The German government says it is taking control of Russian oil giant Rosneft’s subsidiary in Germany, citing the need to ensure continued operations at three oil refineries in the country.


The Economy Ministry said in a statement Friday that Rosneft Deutschland GmbH and RN Refining & Marketing GmbH will be put under the control of Germany’s Federal Network Agency.


The agency will also control the companies’ shares in three refineries: PCK Schwedt, MiRo and Bayernoil.


Rosneft accounts for about 12% of Germany’s oil refining capacity, it said.
https://apnews.com/article/germany-government-and-politics-1a0bd7bf480c84a61b795e2de6df0270

[ElNono]

So you found another explanation you liked better than the one you offered before. Involved but not involved. You just changed "war" to "hostilities".

We aren't going to agree on this so we should move on. Although I agree the US is providing funding and material, I don't agree the US is at war with Russia.

No, I didn't change anything, jeez. Hostilities are an integral part of war. But whatever, we definitely won't agree on this.


I don't consider "proxy war" equal to "war". I defer to the "not involved" aspect of the definition you provided prior. I never even hinted that the US wasn't involved by proxy, only that Russia and the US were not at war with each other. I do think the term "proxy" is being misused here, however I've used it myself in this way.

Not involved in the war. I think you know this already. You provided the definition. I merely accepted it.

If you're accepting the definition and the definition reads, and I quote: a war instigated by a major power... then you're agreeing it's indeed a war. But looks like we won't agree on this either, fine.


Never said anything of the sort.

Here's the quote, nothing else to add to this:

Without the US and NATO meddling in the 1st place there would not have been a war.


I said this: "played a role in fueling the conflict"

So if you keep feeling the need to misrepresent my statements, maybe you need to win something here. Just say so, I am not pot committed.

Regardless, you haven't shown how Russia did anything to the US or NATO. Still waiting to see how "they started it" with the US.

Let's go to Wiki, a source you used earlier:

War:

War is an intense armed conflict[a] between states, governments, societies, or paramilitary groups such as mercenaries, insurgents, and militias. It is generally characterized by extreme violence, destruction, and mortality, using regular or irregular military forces. Warfare refers to the common activities and characteristics of types of war, or of wars in general.[2] Total war is warfare that is not restricted to purely legitimate military targets, and can result in massive civilian or other non-combatant suffering and casualties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War#Definition

Next let's go to the actual dictionary...

war
/wôr/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.
"Japan declared war on Germany"

I simply don't accept your customized definitions. I do accept your meaning though, and we agree the US is acting by proxy. Ukraine is the proxy. I just don't agree that the US is at war with Russia. I believe the proxy aspect exists to avoid that very thing. So I am not willing to loosely accept that the war exists between the two regardless. As soon as Russia pulls out of Ukraine, the US will likely relax or simply stop the sanctions. There will be no long standing concessions by Russia like existed in Japan after WWII. Any patching of relationships will need to be between Ukraine and Russia. The US will operate status quo, still spying on Russia and being spied upon by Russia.

No I don't accept that at all.

Ok, cool. We don't agree on this either.


There are other agencies who could prosecute for war crimes and US military members have been prosecuted for these. If the POTUS could not be, it's because he isn't at war. He doesn't make executive decisions about the battlefield tactics, and AFAIK neither does the Pentagon.

It has to do with the fact that the POTUS is, under US jurisprudence, a civilian, thus US military courts do not apply to him/her. Because international law does not apply due to the US not recognizing the ICC, then we're left with US law. And, as we all know, POTUS can pardon him/herself, so the whole exercise is moot. The very worst that can happen is the POTUS losing his/her job via impeachment.


What action should Russia take if the US were at civil war due to a decision by the federal government to either annex a territory or prevent secession? Why does the US have any responsibility to act as world police, outside of self interest, and can't the self interest aspect be a slippery slope where hypothetically the US is now meddling relentlessly again?

This one is easy to answer since it happened already in the Syrian civil war. Russia (and Iran, Iraq, Egypt) supported the Syrian government, the US (and the UK, France, Turkey, Arab League) backed the free Syrian army. Their involvement was largely a proxy war. Russia wants to be world police as well, they just can't play the role because they can't back it up.

The notion that Russia should fight for their interests makes sense, the fact that Russia is just another cheap dictatorship that hates freedom and democracy is actually important to people like me who happens to love those things.


This is why a superpower is called a superpower. I don't think economic coercion is the same as war. I think it's to help stave off war. I won't accept war is used to avoid war. I won't accept political pressure and diplomacy are political warfare.

If it would be just the US placing sanctions, it wouldn't work. Not for Russia anyways. Now, when you have the entire west with Europe and Japan on board as well, then that's a different ballgame. So I don't think it's just a matter of 'superpower', but understanding the geopolitics involved here based on potential outcomes.

While sanctions are primarily aimed at stopping the funding of the campaign, the reality is, much like military warfare, that the 18% inflation rate for this year, the shrinking of the GDP, the defaults on the debt, the closure of imports, etc are going to hurt the Russian civilians the most. There's no bullets, bombs or dead, but the damage is severe nonetheless.

But, again, if you don't agree, then you don't agree.

[ElNono]

Russia is still an incredibly rich country with natural resources. A crazy "what if". What if China sensed weakness and moved on Russia after they had exhausted their military in Ukraine. I know its far fetched but Germany and Russia were buddies in WWII until they weren't. Would we just sit back and watch it instead of taking sides?

Not sure that's totally crazy. I mentioned a while back that the current trajectory for Russia is 'larger North Korea' and possibly a Chinese colony...

The reason it's unlikely is that China has a really good thing going with the West, and it's better for them to provide stealthy support while still having plausible deniability. It's how the arms trade from North Korea still operates now.

[ElNono]

https://i.imgur.com/45BQl5B.jpg

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[ElNono]

U.S. announces new $600 million arms package for Ukraine

WASHINGTON, Sept 15 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden announced a new $600 million arms package to help the Ukrainian military battle Russia, according to a White House memo sent to the State Department on Thursday.

Biden authorized the assistance using his Presidential Drawdown Authority, which allows the president to sanction the transfer of excess weapons from U.S. stocks.

The package includes High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), night vision goggles, claymore mines, mine clearing equipment, 105mm artillery rounds and 155mm precision guided artillery rounds, the Pentagon said.

The White House memo also mentioned the money will be used for military education and training.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-announces-new-600-million-arms-package-ukraine-2022-09-15/

Whatever it takes :tu

[horseshue]

https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1570667239707389952

Second best army in the world. :lol On par with usa and china. :lmao

[RandomGuy]

China would be 2 obviously but who do you have past that?

At this point, North Korea, simply because of its size, and Ukraine for as long as it is mobilized and supported.

The time is long past for us to re-assess the military "might" of a failed nation state like Russia.

[RandomGuy]

As believable as Ghost of Kiev and Babushkas destroying drones with Pickle Jars :lmao :lmao :lmao

Russia is using 50 year old tanks, and somehow, you think that it using 50 year old maps is implausible?

More than one case of maps captured from Russians were old soviet maps, its a pattern, like your fucktarded apologies for a genocidal regime, and shitty takes on just about everything.

Tell me you don't know shit about military operations without telling me you don't know shit about military operations. smh\



Your buddies:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcwSEl4WQAAeq7K?format=jpg&name=large

[RandomGuy]

1570503553789362179

:lmao

:rollin

the hits just keep on coming...

1570715945181806592

:lmao

[benefactor]

U.S. announces new $600 million arms package for Ukraine

WASHINGTON, Sept 15 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden announced a new $600 million arms package to help the Ukrainian military battle Russia, according to a White House memo sent to the State Department on Thursday.

Biden authorized the assistance using his Presidential Drawdown Authority, which allows the president to sanction the transfer of excess weapons from U.S. stocks.

The package includes High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), night vision goggles, claymore mines, mine clearing equipment, 105mm artillery rounds and 155mm precision guided artillery rounds, the Pentagon said.

The White House memo also mentioned the money will be used for military education and training.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-announces-new-600-million-arms-package-ukraine-2022-09-15/

Whatever it takes :tu
:tu

[RandomGuy]

Its happening :wow
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcxoolOXwAAyHqE?format=jpg&name=900x900

Remember Bucha, you flaming piece of shit.

This is going to be worse.

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[RandomGuy]

U.S. announces new $600 million arms package for Ukraine

WASHINGTON, Sept 15 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden announced a new $600 million arms package to help the Ukrainian military battle Russia, according to a White House memo sent to the State Department on Thursday.

Biden authorized the assistance using his Presidential Drawdown Authority, which allows the president to sanction the transfer of excess weapons from U.S. stocks.

The package includes High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), night vision goggles, claymore mines, mine clearing equipment, 105mm artillery rounds and 155mm precision guided artillery rounds, the Pentagon said.

The White House memo also mentioned the money will be used for military education and training.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-announces-new-600-million-arms-package-ukraine-2022-09-15/

Whatever it takes :tu

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fcx50UGWQAEu3KP?format=jpg&name=small

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1570667239707389952

Second best army in the world. :lol On par with usa and china. :lmao

1569829237397327872

Not sure what these new super-duper non-motivated psychos will be driving or wearing.

[hater]

U.S. announces new $600 million arms package for Ukraine

WASHINGTON, Sept 15 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden announced a new $600 million arms package to help the Ukrainian military battle Russia, according to a White House memo sent to the State Department on Thursday.

Biden authorized the assistance using his Presidential Drawdown Authority, which allows the president to sanction the transfer of excess weapons from U.S. stocks.

The package includes High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), night vision goggles, claymore mines, mine clearing equipment, 105mm artillery rounds and 155mm precision guided artillery rounds, the Pentagon said.

The White House memo also mentioned the money will be used for military education and training.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-announces-new-600-million-arms-package-ukraine-2022-09-15/

Whatever it takes :tu

:lmao what happened to the great Ukro "offensive" I thought Russia was gonna quit after that and Putin was gonna be arrested :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[hater]

Assad and Putin obliterating Americas favorite toy terrorists :lmao

The Syrian and Russian militaries have dealt a heavy blow to al-Qaeda-affiliated Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), the de-facto ruler of the northwestern Syrian region of Greater Idlib.

On September 8, more than a dozen Syrian and Russian strikes hit key positions of the terrorist group near the towns of Hafsarjah, Sheikh Yousef, Sijer and Ghafar, which are located in the al-Rug Plain in the western Idlib countryside.

Su-24M and Su-34 fighter bombers of the Russian Aerospace Forces took part in the large-scale attack, while the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) used OTR-21 Tochka tactical ballistic missiles.

The pinpoint strikes destroyed several headquarters belonging to HTS, as well as a large camp of the group where foreign experts were training terrorists on operating makeshift suicide drones.

The Russian Reconciliation Center for Syria revealed that 120 terrorists, including 20 drone experts and high-ranking members of HTS, were killed in the joint strikes. One of the slain terrorists was reportedly Sirajuddin Mukhtarov, the former commander of HTS’s main Uzbek faction Katibat al Tawhid wal Jihad, who is also known as Abu Salah al-Uzbeki.



Southfront.org

[DMC]

No, I didn't change anything, jeez. Hostilities are an integral part of war. But whatever, we definitely won't agree on this.



If you're accepting the definition and the definition reads, and I quote: a war instigated by a major power... then you're agreeing it's indeed a war. But looks like we won't agree on this either, fine.

This is smoke and mirrors. Yes it's a war that's being instigated, but the US isn't at war. I can instigate a fight and not be in a fight. This seems like a very simple concept.


Here's the quote, nothing else to add to this:

Because you said this:


"Without the West support, this would've been over a long time ago."

Both are presumptions. You didn't offer any proof of your statement so why would you need proof of mine?


Ok, cool. We don't agree on this either.



It has to do with the fact that the POTUS is, under US jurisprudence, a civilian, thus US military courts do not apply to him/her. Because international law does not apply due to the US not recognizing the ICC, then we're left with US law. And, as we all know, POTUS can pardon him/herself, so the whole exercise is moot. The very worst that can happen is the POTUS losing his/her job via impeachment.

You're being obtuse. The US isn't at war. We aren't one of the warring parties. You're doing a lot of soft shoe to dance around that obvious point.


This one is easy to answer since it happened already in the Syrian civil war. Russia (and Iran, Iraq, Egypt) supported the Syrian government, the US (and the UK, France, Turkey, Arab League) backed the free Syrian army. Their involvement was largely a proxy war. Russia wants to be world police as well, they just can't play the role because they can't back it up.

The notion that Russia should fight for their interests makes sense, the fact that Russia is just another cheap dictatorship that hates freedom and democracy is actually important to people like me who happens to love those things.

Which leads back to what I said - you need the US to be at war with Russia. This is a good vs evil thing for you, but it's hard to see Ukraine as "good", but easy to see the US as good. As such you'll bend and twist and make believe the US is at war with Russia due to sanctions. This entire exchange has boiled down to whether or not the US is at war with Russia.


If it would be just the US placing sanctions, it wouldn't work. Not for Russia anyways. Now, when you have the entire west with Europe and Japan on board as well, then that's a different ballgame. So I don't think it's just a matter of 'superpower', but understanding the geopolitics involved here based on potential outcomes.

While sanctions are primarily aimed at stopping the funding of the campaign, the reality is, much like military warfare, that the 18% inflation rate for this year, the shrinking of the GDP, the defaults on the debt, the closure of imports, etc are going to hurt the Russian civilians the most. There's no bullets, bombs or dead, but the damage is severe nonetheless.

But, again, if you don't agree, then you don't agree.

Russian civilians are accustomed to having a lower standard of living than American citizens. Americans can put more pressure on Washington than Russians can put on the Kremlin. As a "dictatorship", how much pressure could Putin face from the average Russian citizen?

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao what happened to the great Ukro "offensive" I thought Russia was gonna quit after that and Putin was gonna be arrested :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
Who said that?

[hater]

Who said that?

Pretty much all Western media :lmao :lmao

[pgardn]

Pretty much all Western media :lmao :lmao

Provide a link ya stinkin liar.
So we can see the trash Western media you read.
Your "eastern media" consists of tweets from people who have 20 followers and think Argentina is a part of Europe.
So your sauces are more than tainted, they are chunky vomit.

[hater]

Provide a link ya stinkin liar.
So we can see the trash Western media you read.
Your "eastern media" consists of tweets from people who have 20 followers and think Argentina is a part of Europe.
So your sauces are more than tainted, they are chunky vomit.

Sure, Nancy:

After Russia retreats in Ukraine, what could Putin do next?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna47514&ved=2ahUKEwiSh9LX1Jn6AhWrD1kFHULTA4IQyM8BKAB6BAgmE AE&usg=AOvVaw2LYXn5La7PDHJ04Ug97F69
5 hours ago

For Vladimir Putin, This Is the Beginning of the End
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-this-beginning-end-1743488%3Famp%3D1&ved=2ahUKEwiSh9LX1Jn6AhWrD1kFHULTA4IQyM8BKAB6BAgkE AE&usg=AOvVaw1aBaZhpA9jeuDMoAucTihm
6 hours ago

The Atlantic
It's Time to Prepare for a Ukrainian Victory
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/ukraine-victory-russia-putin/671405/&ved=2ahUKEwiSh9LX1Jn6AhWrD1kFHULTA4IQxfQBKAB6BAgoE AE&usg=AOvVaw3HoNgjeNy9skLTwcnOI115
4 days ago

The Daily Beast
Putin's Headed Toward Defeat in Ukraine. The Only Question Is How Bad a Loser He'll Be.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.thedailybeast.com/putins-headed-toward-defeat-in-ukraine-the-only-question-is-how-bad-a-loser-hell-be&ved=2ahUKEwiSh9LX1Jn6AhWrD1kFHULTA4IQxfQBKAB6BAgFE AI&usg=AOvVaw1C6fksnEYDq9C6cw-1R61E
1 day ago

Slate Magazine
When will Russians realized the disaster in Ukraine is Putin's fault?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/09/russians-disaster-ukraine-war-vladimir-putin-fault.html&ved=2ahUKEwiSh9LX1Jn6AhWrD1kFHULTA4IQxfQBKAB6BAgIE AI&usg=AOvVaw3fLVq-FjAjVJZCFHZoQw3a
3 days ago

Ukraine Is Fast Becoming Putin's Waterloo | Opinion
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-fast-becoming-putins-waterloo-opinion-1742636%3Famp%3D1&ved=2ahUKEwiQ7dmz1Zn6AhU1MVkFHVKiDnQ4ChDIzwEoAHoEC AgQAg&usg=AOvVaw2iS9c3f5srGaRWxsfYpcPu
2 days ago

Putin faces devastating revolt: Russian nationalists accuse tyrant of 'betraying' army
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1667770/russia-news-putin-accused-betrayal-army-kharkiv-counter-ukraine-war-latest/amp&ved=2ahUKEwiO2qft1Zn6AhXRFmIAHUlrCKE4ChDIzwEoAHoEC AMQAg&usg=AOvVaw1t45JJ_ZzgvmooIgQeJCGp
5 days ago





:lmao :lmao Urine Garden


:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Sure, Nancy:

After Russia retreats in Ukraine, what could Putin do next?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna47514&ved=2ahUKEwiSh9LX1Jn6AhWrD1kFHULTA4IQyM8BKAB6BAgmE AE&usg=AOvVaw2LYXn5La7PDHJ04Ug97F69
5 hours ago

For Vladimir Putin, This Is the Beginning of the End
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-this-beginning-end-1743488%3Famp%3D1&ved=2ahUKEwiSh9LX1Jn6AhWrD1kFHULTA4IQyM8BKAB6BAgkE AE&usg=AOvVaw1aBaZhpA9jeuDMoAucTihm
6 hours ago

The Atlantic
It's Time to Prepare for a Ukrainian Victory
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/ukraine-victory-russia-putin/671405/&ved=2ahUKEwiSh9LX1Jn6AhWrD1kFHULTA4IQxfQBKAB6BAgoE AE&usg=AOvVaw3HoNgjeNy9skLTwcnOI115
4 days ago

The Daily Beast
Putin's Headed Toward Defeat in Ukraine. The Only Question Is How Bad a Loser He'll Be.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.thedailybeast.com/putins-headed-toward-defeat-in-ukraine-the-only-question-is-how-bad-a-loser-hell-be&ved=2ahUKEwiSh9LX1Jn6AhWrD1kFHULTA4IQxfQBKAB6BAgFE AI&usg=AOvVaw1C6fksnEYDq9C6cw-1R61E
1 day ago

Slate Magazine
When will Russians realized the disaster in Ukraine is Putin's fault?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/09/russians-disaster-ukraine-war-vladimir-putin-fault.html&ved=2ahUKEwiSh9LX1Jn6AhWrD1kFHULTA4IQxfQBKAB6BAgIE AI&usg=AOvVaw3fLVq-FjAjVJZCFHZoQw3a
3 days ago

Ukraine Is Fast Becoming Putin's Waterloo | Opinion
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-fast-becoming-putins-waterloo-opinion-1742636%3Famp%3D1&ved=2ahUKEwiQ7dmz1Zn6AhU1MVkFHVKiDnQ4ChDIzwEoAHoEC AgQAg&usg=AOvVaw2iS9c3f5srGaRWxsfYpcPu
2 days ago

Putin faces devastating revolt: Russian nationalists accuse tyrant of 'betraying' army
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1667770/russia-news-putin-accused-betrayal-army-kharkiv-counter-ukraine-war-latest/amp&ved=2ahUKEwiO2qft1Zn6AhXRFmIAHUlrCKE4ChDIzwEoAHoEC AMQAg&usg=AOvVaw1t45JJ_ZzgvmooIgQeJCGp
5 days ago





:lmao :lmao Urine Garden


:lmao

Those don't say what you claimed.

[hater]

Those don't say what you claimed.

They all say Russia has already lost :lmao

:lol Chimpistan

[ChumpDumper]

They all say Russia has already lost :lmao

:lol Chimpistan

That's not all you claimed.

You always have to lie.

[pgardn]

Those don't say what you claimed.

[pgardn]

They all say Russia has already lost :lmao

:lol Chimpistan

The WORLD lost when Putin started this dumbassery.
Russia is a part of the world.
This shit has been good for absolutely no one economically in totality. Just a playground for weapons manufacturers taking notes.

BTW.
China has just expressed concerns over this stupidity.
Imagine China having to use the Wagner group who rounds up prisoners to fight!
That absolutely does not fit anything China would do in a conflict.

China is pissed over this economic shit faced midget invasion, especially when they are still dealing with many pandemic associated economic problems.
Like China wants to play with a midget who farms his invasion out to Private entities who call the shots.... Just no....

[DMC]

Never works out well for pgardn when he demands proof and swears none exists. It usually takes about a minute for him to get knocked the fuck out. Then he goes on an Otis the drunk level philosophical diatribe to disguise his getaway.

pgardn - fck'in prove it you fckin' liar!!!

random poster proves it post haste

pgardn - theoretically no one wins, blah blah blah

[TSA]

The WORLD lost when Putin started this dumbassery.
Russia is a part of the world.
This shit has been good for absolutely no one economically in totality. Just a playground for weapons manufacturers taking notes.

BTW.
China has just expressed concerns over this stupidity.
Imagine China having to use the Wagner group who rounds up prisoners to fight!
That absolutely does not fit anything China would do in a conflict.

China is pissed over this economic shit faced midget invasion, especially when they are still dealing with many pandemic associated economic problems.
Like China wants to play with a midget who farms his invasion out to Private entities who call the shots.... Just no....China 10 days ago

Putin attends joint military drills with China, others

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/putin-attends-joint-military-drills-with-china-others/2022/09/06/c000587a-2dcd-11ed-bcc6-0874b26ae296_story.html

[hater]

China 10 days ago

Putin attends joint military drills with China, others

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/putin-attends-joint-military-drills-with-china-others/2022/09/06/c000587a-2dcd-11ed-bcc6-0874b26ae296_story.html

Peegarden taking some powershots to the jaw :lmao

[hater]

Southfront.org:


On September 16, the local deputy head of the civil-military administration confirmed that the Ukrainian units found themselves in a tactical encirclement near the borders of the Kherson region, on the left bank of the Ingulets River.

As a result of the rising waters, it will be more difficult for the Ukrainian units deployed on the left bank in the area of Davydov Brod to retreat or transfer ammunition.

It was also reported that the Ukrainian military camp in Krivoy Rog was flooded. As a result, sending reinforcements from there to the front lines was interrupted.

The Ingulets spill played an important role in the ongoing battles in the southern regions of Ukraine. It delayed the offensive operations of the Ukrainian forces, which have been prepared by the Ukrainian military in recent weeks.

In the areas of Alexandrovka, Posad-Pokrovsky and Snigirevka artillery duels continue.

Near the village of Andreevka, the Ukrainian offensive has been stopped. Fighters of the Russian Aerospace Forces do not stop strikes on Ukrainian troops along the corridor from Andreevka to Sukhoi Stavok, where Ukrainian units found themselves in a tactical encirclement. Dozens of gravely wounded Ukrainian soldiers are evacuated from the area every day. It is reported that Ukrainian aviation is used in evacuation operations and that Russian forces do not prevent the removal of bodies.

Despite heavy losses, the Ukrainian military continues to transfer reserves to a bridgehead on the left bank of the river, apparently preparing for new offensives.
In the Olgino area, Ukrainian forces are trying to advance with infantry and tanks but units of Russian paratroopers, with the support of artillery and MLRS, continue to repel attacks.

[velik_m]

1570795737012908035

[boutons_deux]

China 10 days ago

Putin attends joint military drills with China, others

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/putin-attends-joint-military-drills-with-china-others/2022/09/06/c000587a-2dcd-11ed-bcc6-0874b26ae296_story.html

China is chasing the money, doesn't war the financial, etc disruption of war, even with Taiwan.

Pootin has severely weakened his military trying to grab $Ts of Ukraine wealth. So far he's succeeded which is why Ukraine won't stop until it recovers all its territory.

US conservatives, who don't give a shit about Ukraine and its $Ts of lost wealth,

want peace so US companies can go back into Russia

[Joseph Kony]

Never works out well for pgardn when he demands proof and swears none exists. It usually takes about a minute for him to get knocked the fuck out. Then he goes on an Otis the drunk level philosophical diatribe to disguise his getaway.

pgardn - fck'in prove it you fckin' liar!!!

random poster proves it post haste

pgardn - theoretically no one wins, blah blah blah
youre the last person who should be making these remarks you dumb fuck :lol

You made incorrect assumptions about bb's stance on ukraine like two days ago, asked for proof, then disappeared :lol

[hater]

:lmao roosters coming home to chicken :lol

CNN

The US and its NATO and EU allies responded to Russia’s military operation in Ukraine by applying unprecedented economic sanctions to its economy. Russia became the world’s most sanctioned country within two weeks of the offensive, yet after successive rounds of penalties, energy embargos and excommunication from the SWIFT banking system, Moscow is reaping record profits from its fossil fuel exports, the ruble is as strong against the dollar as it was in 2019, and Russia’s inflation rate has fallen.

"We were expecting that things like SWIFT and all the blocking sanctions on Russia's banks would totally crater the Russian economy,” one unnamed US official told CNN. Another said that Washington “hoped to see the Russian economy suffering more by now, given the unprecedented severity” of the sanctions, CNN paraphrased.

Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed the same sentiment during an economic meeting earlier this week, declaring that the West’s “economic blitzkrieg” had failed.

[hater]

"Everyone will freeze" -Vucic

:lol

The EU attempt to cap Russian gas price means “everyone will freeze” this winter, said Aleksandar Vucic

Moscow might decide to shut off gas supplies completely, if the European Union moves ahead with plans to impose a price cap, Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic warned on Friday.

“If the EU makes such a decision, then Russia could decide to turn off the gas to Europe entirely, and then there will be none of it and everyone will freeze,” Vucic said, adding that the price of electricity would in that case also skyrocket from today’s €400 per megawatt-hour.

The Serbian leader’s comments came in a TV interview after his meeting with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban. Among the topics they discussed, Vucic said, was the upcoming autumn and winter, which Orban thinks will be “decisive survival in economic terms.”

[hater]

Reuters, TASS


“I am against supplying ammonia from the Russian Federation through our territory. I would only do it in exchange for our prisoners,” Zelensky told the outlet. “This is what I offered the UN.”

The Kremlin quickly dismissed the offer. “Are people and ammonia the same thing?” spokesman Dmitry Peskov responded, as reported by the news agency TASS.


:lmao kokaine Komedian :lol

[DMC]

youre the last person who should be making these remarks you dumb fuck :lol

You made incorrect assumptions about bb's stance on ukraine like two days ago, asked for proof, then disappeared :lol

Still haven't seen a quote to support his assertion that he's mentioned it several times. Chop chop, dipshit

[FuzzyLumpkins]

At this point, North Korea, simply because of its size, and Ukraine for as long as it is mobilized and supported.

The time is long past for us to re-assess the military "might" of a failed nation state like Russia.

I agree from the standpoint of mobilization at the current term. Putin cannot justify full mobilization and still hold power. That being said Russia fully mobilized is an easy 3 in my mind.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Never works out well for pgardn when he demands proof and swears none exists. It usually takes about a minute for him to get knocked the fuck out. Then he goes on an Otis the drunk level philosophical diatribe to disguise his getaway.

pgardn - fck'in prove it you fckin' liar!!!

random poster proves it post haste

pgardn - theoretically no one wins, blah blah blah

i'll be the third person now that says that those links he obfuscated through google search links do not say what he claimed. Posting links and waving your hands is not an argument, dim.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao roosters coming home to chicken :lol

CNN

The US and its NATO and EU allies responded to Russia’s military operation in Ukraine by applying unprecedented economic sanctions to its economy. Russia became the world’s most sanctioned country within two weeks of the offensive, yet after successive rounds of penalties, energy embargos and excommunication from the SWIFT banking system, Moscow is reaping record profits from its fossil fuel exports, the ruble is as strong against the dollar as it was in 2019, and Russia’s inflation rate has fallen.

"We were expecting that things like SWIFT and all the blocking sanctions on Russia's banks would totally crater the Russian economy,” one unnamed US official told CNN. Another said that Washington “hoped to see the Russian economy suffering more by now, given the unprecedented severity” of the sanctions, CNN paraphrased.

Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed the same sentiment during an economic meeting earlier this week, declaring that the West’s “economic blitzkrieg” had failed.

This is an article from RT, hater.

https://www.rt.com/news/562975-russia-sanctions-arent-working/

Why are you lying?

[hater]

i'll be the third person now that says that those links he obfuscated through google search links do not say what he claimed. Posting links and waving your hands is not an argument, dim.

Western media already claimed Ukranian victory and Russian retreat from Ukraine, Nancypants.

They also say Putin will have leg troubles after this "defeat"

Exactly what I said, Nancy


Spin dat shit now :lmao

[hater]

This is an article from RT, hater.

https://www.rt.com/news/562975-russia-sanctions-arent-working/

Why are you lying?

CNN reported it Nancypants :lmao

"We were expecting that things like SWIFT and all the blocking sanctions on Russia's banks would totally crater the Russian economy and that basically, by now going into September, we'd be dealing with an economically much more weakened Russia than the one that we are dealing with," said one senior US official, referring to the US and European decision to cut some Russian banks off from the SWIFT international banking system.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/16/politics/russia-sanctions-ukraine-slow-economic-pain/index.html


Chimpistan :lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Western media already claimed Ukranian victory and Russian retreat from Ukraine, Nancypants.

They also say Putin will have leg troubles after this "defeat"

Exactly what I said, Nancy


Spin dat shit now :lmao

Spin your unfounded spin? I will pass.

If you want to talk about DID and how you are affected by it then sure.

[spurraider21]

I agree from the standpoint of mobilization at the current term. Putin cannot justify full mobilization and still hold power. That being said Russia fully mobilized is an easy 3 in my mind.
its hard to really theorize because we havent really seen most of these countries in serious action. pakistan could be another juggernaut in the east

[FuzzyLumpkins]

its hard to really theorize because we havent really seen most of these countries in serious action. pakistan could be another juggernaut in the east

I am thinking manpower and industrial capacity.

[hater]

Spin your unfounded spin? I will pass.

If you want to talk about DID and how you are affected by it then sure.

White flag duly noted :tu

[ChumpDumper]

CNN reported it Nancypants :lmao

"We were expecting that things like SWIFT and all the blocking sanctions on Russia's banks would totally crater the Russian economy and that basically, by now going into September, we'd be dealing with an economically much more weakened Russia than the one that we are dealing with," said one senior US official, referring to the US and European decision to cut some Russian banks off from the SWIFT international banking system.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/16/politics/russia-sanctions-ukraine-slow-economic-pain/index.html


Chimpistan :lmao

Why did you lie?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

White flag duly noted :tu

So when you go from account to account do you think in your own head that you are that person? They way you constantly reference the character seems like you are trying to convince yourself.

[Joseph Kony]

Still haven't seen a quote to support his assertion that he's mentioned it several times. Chop chop, dipshit

:lol and you also never actually saw any quotes claiming what you initially asserted his stance was to begin with you fat fucking moron

they're in this thread tbh. if you're too stupid to figure out how to filter a thread to see a specific posters replies in it, then that's on you. do your own homework fatty

[Joseph Kony]

Not to mention the time you got dunked on in the thread where you thought a national credit card outage somehow meant the power was out across the country and then doubled down on your stupidity :lmao

[spurraider21]

I am thinking manpower and industrial capacity.
then india would be up there as well

[ElNono]

:lmao what happened to the great Ukro "offensive" I thought Russia was gonna quit after that and Putin was gonna be arrested :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

:lol they took back just about half of Russian gains on the last 6 months in a mere week, and sent the Ruskies tucking tail.

Just letting you know since it looks like Medellin didn't have internet and P:lolp:lol Escrubar hasn't been posting fake news lately :lmao:lmao:lmao

[ElNono]

China 10 days ago

Putin attends joint military drills with China, others

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/putin-attends-joint-military-drills-with-china-others/2022/09/06/c000587a-2dcd-11ed-bcc6-0874b26ae296_story.html

:lol He was also attending the opening of a ferris wheel while Ukraine was raping his army without lube

And the ferris wheel broke down too:
https://www.businessinsider.com/amid-ukraine-offensive-putin-opened-ferris-wheel-but-it-broke-2022-9

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[DMC]

:lol and you also never actually saw any quotes claiming what you initially asserted his stance was to begin with you fat fucking moron

they're in this thread tbh. if you're too stupid to figure out how to filter a thread to see a specific posters replies in it, then that's on you. do your own homework fatty
Never asserted that was his stance. Noted though that neither of you offered a quote.


Not to mention the time you got dunked on in the thread where you thought a national credit card outage somehow meant the power was out across the country and then doubled down on your stupidity :lmao

It's obvious that a national CC processing outage could only be caused by a national power outage. Maybe you need to change alts and come back in 11 years to try again.


:lol losing on both attempts

[ElNono]

:lmao roosters coming home to chicken :lol

CNN

The US and its NATO and EU allies responded to Russia’s military operation in Ukraine by applying unprecedented economic sanctions to its economy. Russia became the world’s most sanctioned country within two weeks of the offensive, yet after successive rounds of penalties, energy embargos and excommunication from the SWIFT banking system, Moscow is reaping record profits from its fossil fuel exports, the ruble is as strong against the dollar as it was in 2019, and Russia’s inflation rate has fallen.

"We were expecting that things like SWIFT and all the blocking sanctions on Russia's banks would totally crater the Russian economy,” one unnamed US official told CNN. Another said that Washington “hoped to see the Russian economy suffering more by now, given the unprecedented severity” of the sanctions, CNN paraphrased.

Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed the same sentiment during an economic meeting earlier this week, declaring that the West’s “economic blitzkrieg” had failed.

Other than the fact that they'll have a higher inflation, larger GDP shrink, biggest loss in their stock market and more debt defaults than any country in the West, yeah, they didn't work :lol

Putler :lmao:lmao:lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

then india would be up there as well

No doubt. It's an interesting discussion.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol they took back just about half of Russian gains on the last 6 months in a mere week, and sent the Ruskies tucking tail.

Just letting you know since it looks like Medellin didn't have internet and P:lolp:lol Escrubar hasn't been posting fake news lately :lmao:lmao:lmao

a 15 tank spearhead had them leave behind 100s of tanks, artillery pieces, armored vehicles, and ammo dumps. they pushed them to the river which makes for a natural defensive position. They've established two beach heads across the river and there are reports of a third made today at Kupiansk.

Additionally partisans have really stepped up assassinations of collaborative government officials. This winter is going to be interesting.

https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/16-september-ukrainian-special-forces-crossed-oskil-river

[hater]

Other than the fact that they'll have a higher inflation, larger GDP shrink, biggest loss in their stock market and more debt defaults than any country in the West, yeah, they didn't work :lol

Putler :lmao:lmao:lmao

:lmao Russia is getting record budget income this year, Nancy :lmao


Build Russia back Better :lmao

[hater]

:lol they took back just about half of Russian gains on the last 6 months in a mere week, and sent the Ruskies tucking tail.

Just letting you know since it looks like Medellin didn't have internet and P:lolp:lol Escrubar hasn't been posting fake news lately :lmao:lmao:lmao

Lose 12k men in your offensive where your opponent retreated and lost 1k max :lmao

"Winning"


:lmao


Todays Salvatrucho Generals :lmao

[Ef-man]

Are hater's super friends in the Collective Security Treaty Organization breaking up? :lol

https://twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1570850671402057729

[hater]

Are hater's super friends in the Collective Security Treaty Organization breaking up? :lol

https://twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1570850671402057729

NATO is breaking up before niga

:lmao

[hater]

Lol Nazis and their Nazilovers

"Civilian government targets are legitimate targets" :lol


The government in Kiev was behind the deadly shelling in Kherson and organizing the murder of two pro-Russian civilian officials in Berdyansk on Friday, Mikhail Podoliak, an aide to Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, confirmed in an interview. However, Podoliak insisted these were not acts of terrorism but legitimate strikes against purely military targets.

“Everything that happened in Berdyansk, in Melitopol, in Kherson — those are all absolutely legitimate military targets. Those are certainly not terrorist or, strictly speaking, criminal acts,” Podoliak said.

At least three people were killed and 13 were wounded on Friday morning when five missiles from the US-supplied HIMARS launchers struck the administration building in Kherson, which is under Russian control. Most of them were civilian passers-by, local authorities said.

[pgardn]

China 10 days ago

Putin attends joint military drills with China, others

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/putin-attends-joint-military-drills-with-china-others/2022/09/06/c000587a-2dcd-11ed-bcc6-0874b26ae296_story.html

Take a read dumbass.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2022/09/15/putin-admits-china-had-concerns-about-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/?sh=2a0780b2581c

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1570938826771800067

[Ef-man]

Are hater's super friends in the Collective Security Treaty Organization breaking up? :lol

https://twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1570850671402057729


NATO is breaking up before niga

:lmao

What good is a security treaty if the members are fighting with each other and putler is in the cuckshed? :lol

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1570891498249670656

[pgardn]

Never works out well for pgardn when he demands proof and swears none exists. It usually takes about a minute for him to get knocked the fuck out. Then he goes on an Otis the drunk level philosophical diatribe to disguise his getaway.

pgardn - fck'in prove it you fckin' liar!!!

random poster proves it post haste

pgardn - theoretically no one wins, blah blah blah

Asshat handed out again.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2022/09/15/putin-admits-china-had-concerns-about-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/?sh=2a0780b2581c

You should just stay away from me old man.
It never ends well.

I said theoretically non one wins?
Where?

It is my opinion that this conflict has not been good for the world economy. You disagree?
Explain yourself. You think this war is a non factor or what? When it comes to winning you dont know what the fck you even are talking about.
My opinion this conflict is dumbassery and a big loss for the worldwide economy. You disagree.

From the article and quoted from TASS.
.

Russia understands China’s concerns about the ongoing war, Russian news agency TASS (https://tass.ru/politika/15761641?utm_source=politico.eu&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=politico.eu&utm_referrer=politico.eu) reported.

Now bite me old man

[pgardn]

DMC
hater
Insanity Index

Quite a bastion of brainpower of Trumpian proportion.

[ElNono]

:lmao Russia is getting record budget income this year, Nancy :lmao

Build Russia back Better :lmao

Russia's budget surplus tanked in August amid sanctions and slowing natural-gas supplies to Europe

Russia's budget surplus likely fell sharply in August on the back of sweeping sanctions and slowing energy exports.

In the first eight months of 2022, Russia's budget surplus declined to 137 billion rubles, or $2.1 billion — down more than two-thirds from 481 billion rubles in the first seven months of the year, Bloomberg reported on Monday, citing preliminary data from the country's finance ministry.

Russia's finance ministry doesn't provide monthly figures, but Bloomberg Economics' Alexander Isakov estimated the country posted a 300 billion-ruble deficit — meaning the country is spending more money than it makes — in August.

Despite sweeping sanctions, Russia's economy has been holding up as the energy giant has been raking in profits from high energy prices amid a supply crunch that was already in place before it invaded Ukraine.

However, Russia's revenue growth has been slowing steadily, according to data from the country's finance ministry compiled by Bloomberg. This comes as the country's energy exports face sanctions and boycotts, and are now priced at a discount to market prices.

Russia has also slowed natural-gas exports to Europe, its primary market. This in turn is likely to crimp Russia's natural-gas output because production would have to fall to meet lower shipment needs.

Meanwhile, Russia's spending has stayed strong, Bloomberg's data shows. This is in part due to Moscow boosting spending to support the economy.

Russia's finance ministry expects the country to post a 1.7 trillion ruble federal budget deficit in 2022, Interfax reported in July, citing an unnamed source familiar with the situation.

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-august-budget-surplus-down-sanctions-slow-gas-flow-europe-2022-9

"record budget income" still deficitary :lmao:lmao:lmao

"Nancy" :lmao:lmao:lmao

[ElNono]

Lose 12k men in your offensive where your opponent retreated and lost 1k max :lmao

"Winning"

:lmao

Todays Salvatrucho Generals :lmao

Making numbers up to make you feel better about losing half your gains in a week :lmao:lmao:lmao

Todays Rusky propaganda :lmao:lmao:lmao

[pgardn]

You got 3 main idiots on this site who WANT some sort of Russian victory so badly they just dig graves for themselves ad nauseum.

[Ef-man]

Even the Chinese are having a shitty day! Condolences. :wow

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1570731318572634112

[Ef-man]

Are hater's super friends in the Collective Security Treaty Organization breaking up? :lol

https://twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1570850671402057729

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1570691300453916672

[Ghazi]

ZELENSKY IS A KIKE NAZI

NAZIS NEVER WIN

FUCK UKRAINE

GO PUTIN

FUCK UKRAINE!!!!

[Ef-man]

Even Indians giving putler shit! :lmao

https://twitter.com/felix_light/status/1570776934459772929

[DMC]

You got 3 main idiots on this site who WANT some sort of Russian victory so badly they just dig graves for themselves ad nauseum.


DMC
hater
Insanity Index

Quite a bastion of brainpower of Trumpian proportion.

:lol I broke you, again

[DMC]

Even Indians giving putler shit! :lmao

https://twitter.com/felix_light/status/1570776934459772929

This is just before the prime minister offered to remove a virus from Putin's PC.

[horseshue]

I agree from the standpoint of mobilization at the current term. Putin cannot justify full mobilization and still hold power. That being said Russia fully mobilized is an easy 3 in my mind.

Russia cannot go full mobilization, because they don't have means to equip fully mobilized army. They can barely support current force. What is the point of starving million men army equiped with 50+years old AK, and on foot or civilin vehicle. Russians have only one (!!!) tank factory and it doesn't produce new tanks, only repair and modernise old t-72.
Only reason, why russiand are always listed so high in those rankings, is because of nuclear arsenal, and fake assumption, that soviet union was a military superpower. And nukes are irrelevant in actual battlefield. And soviet union is long gone.
Can someone name non soviet made weapon or piece of equipment, that has made a difference in this actual war?
Full mobilisation will expose all those problems, and putin don't want that.

[velik_m]

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[velik_m]

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Pelosi going to Armenia amid renewed clashes with Azerbaijan

Speaker Nancy Pelosi will travel to Armenia this weekend in a show of support for the country, which has been locked in a deadly fight with Azerbaijan, two people familiar with the visit told POLITICO.

Pelosi will make the journey accompanied by Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) after a stop in Berlin for the G-7 Speakers’ Summit. She’s expected to meet with Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan in Yerevan, the capital, as well as other government officials.

...


https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/15/nancy-pelosi-is-going-to-armenia-00056947

[ChumpDumper]

Lol Nazis and their Nazilovers

"Civilian government targets are legitimate targets" :lol


The government in Kiev was behind the deadly shelling in Kherson and organizing the murder of two pro-Russian civilian officials in Berdyansk on Friday, Mikhail Podoliak, an aide to Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, confirmed in an interview. However, Podoliak insisted these were not acts of terrorism but legitimate strikes against purely military targets.

“Everything that happened in Berdyansk, in Melitopol, in Kherson — those are all absolutely legitimate military targets. Those are certainly not terrorist or, strictly speaking, criminal acts,” Podoliak said.

At least three people were killed and 13 were wounded on Friday morning when five missiles from the US-supplied HIMARS launchers struck the administration building in Kherson, which is under Russian control. Most of them were civilian passers-by, local authorities said.

Why do you repeatedly post RT articles without links?

[hater]

ZELENSKY IS A KIKE NAZI

NAZIS NEVER WIN

FUCK UKRAINE

GO PUTIN

FUCK UKRAINE!!!!

:lmao

[FrostKing]

The only topic that unites the Board in Warfare

It's always War with you Americans :lol

[DMX7]

NATO is breaking up before niga

:lmao

It’s one step closer to growing you dolt. :lol

[pgardn]

:lol I broke you, again

Keep pumping yourself up.
Give yourself a trophy and inform the board of your next award.

Stay away from the actual subject, it’s a good look.

[DMC]

DMC
hater
Insanity Index

Quite a bastion of brainpower of Trumpian proportion.


Keep pumping yourself up.
Give yourself a trophy and inform the board of your next award.

Stay away from the actual subject, it’s a good look.

Look in the mirror, Francis.

[DMC]

The only topic that unites the Board in Warfare

It's always War with you Americans :lol

Very few ever enlisted, but they all love war as long as they don't have to fight.

[ChumpDumper]

You say we're not at war, derp.

[pgardn]

Look in the mirror, Francis.

So you retort with my retort.
Thanks for your creativity.

[pgardn]

The only topic that unites the Board in Warfare

It's always War with you Americans :lol

This war affects the entire world unlike any other at this time bozo.
So this war is insignificant in Poland?

[Splits]

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[DeadlyDynasty]

Heavy gun fire reported in Kherson city, hard to tell if it’s ZSU or partisans as it’s unconfirmed at this time (my guess would be partisans, or maybe even infighting).

I can personally confirm some Russian OSINT from earlier today is bullshit…it said they launch a counteroffensive and took back a part of Kupyansk. I just got back from there (my second visit, was there 6-7 days ago too) today and there wasn’t even small arms fire going on:lol

Kharkiv is not fully liquidated yet though, despite what some may say, and the Russians are just delaying at this time to establish defensive positions—most likely near Svatove if I had to guess. Putin realizes he can’t win and so he’s already scaled back the rhetoric to “just taking the Donbas,” so RF will try to hold onto Luhansk Oblast.

The problem is, even the entire Donbas is now a hard get, and he’s making it worse by keeping up his lone offensive in that Bakhmut/Maiorsk/Zaitseve/Horlivka corridor. Their daily gains can be measured in meters, some days just centimeters, yet they keep sending lambs to the slaughter to try and get to that imaginary line on the Donetsk Oblast border. Conventional wisdom would be to draw back a little and create defensive positions, because if Lyman falls soon, then Lysychansk and Severodonetsk will be next, not to mention they’ll be in a position to outflank the idiots still attacking in Bakhmut.

The incompetence is baffling.

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[Ef-man]

Say Hello to my little friend!

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1571162350333427712

[Ef-man]

Putler crying about Germany supplying Ukraine with weapons and putler cannot do shit. :lol

Russia says Germany 'crossed' red line in arms supply to Ukraine

Russia's ambassador to Germany Sergey Nechayev told state-owned media on Friday that Germany had "crossed" a red line by proving arms to Ukraine.

"Supplying the Ukrainian regime with German weapons is not only against Russian servicemen, but also against the Donbas civilians," Nechayev told RT. "It is certainly the red line which the German authorities should not have crossed."

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-says-germany-crossed-line (https://news.yahoo.com/russia-says-germany-apos-crossed)

[pgardn]

Putler crying about Germany supplying Ukraine with weapons and putler cannot do shit. :lol

Russia says Germany 'crossed' red line in arms supply to Ukraine

Russia's ambassador to Germany Sergey Nechayev told state-owned media on Friday that Germany had "crossed" a red line by proving arms to Ukraine.

"Supplying the Ukrainian regime with German weapons is not only against Russian servicemen, but also against the Donbas civilians," Nechayev told RT. "It is certainly the red line which the German authorities should not have crossed."

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-says-germany-crossed-line (https://news.yahoo.com/russia-says-germany-apos-crossed)

Meaning Pukin will go after more civilian targets in Ukraine.
To “punish” the West because we actually give a damn.
Pukin would push old Ukrainian women out of windows if there were enough buildings still standing.

[Isitjustme?]

I literally posted the link chimp.

Brian Berletic


Who is Brian Berletic and where did he get his numbers?

"My name is Brian Berletic and for several years I have run the alternative news blog, "Land Destroyer" under the pen name "Tony Cartalucci"

[Isitjustme?]

https://www.patreon.com/landdestroyer

[horseshue]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1571067542659297284

Hater must be proud.

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/WarSpotting/status/1571216692612669441

[horseshue]

https://twitter.com/EmmanuelleChaze/status/1571165187654180867

Russian world at it's finest. Hater must be proud.

[boutons_deux]

we can expect what Pootin has already done.

Go full-blown Chechnya on Urkaine, nothing left but rubble and 100Ks dead citizens

hospitals, schools, electricity, water, all destroyed.

Just like USA's infamous "shock and awe" on Bagdad

Pootin defeated will be Pootin out of power or even assassinated, so he can't lose.

[boutons_deux]

what if Ukraine does this to Pootin?

Budyonnovsk hospital hostage crisis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budyonnovsk_hospital_hostage_crisis

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[ChumpDumper]

Let me know when they capture a T-90


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lol derp

[DMC]

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US military intelligence probably all over this. This is the only one that actually matters.

[DMX7]

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When we see the T-14 we will know the war is really over for Russia.

[boutons_deux]

When we see the T-14 we will know the war is really over for Russia.

I read that Russia has 12000 tanks, of course, many are ancient

scrap iron business after the war should be lucrative

[boutons_deux]

Ukraine now bombing villages inside Russia

How long will Russians support losing their villages and lives and support Pootin's fiasco?

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/warnerta/status/1571571740412727296

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1570685368537845761

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1571704602789285889

[Ef-man]

Things not going well for russians.


https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1571603154248007690

[velik_m]

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[boutons_deux]

Ukrainian authorities discover mass grave with over 400 bodies in city of Izium

Some of the victims in the mass grave were killed by gunfire, while others died of "so-called mine explosion traumas,"

"Some died because of airstrikes," he continued.

"Also we have information that a lot of bodies have not been identified yet. So the reasons of death will be established during the investigations."

The buried corpses were also "mostly civilians,"

"Bucha (https://theweek.com/russo-ukrainian-war/1012222/russias-bucha-horrors-are-pushing-india-turkey-other-studiously-neutral), Mariupol (https://theweek.com/russo-ukrainian-war/1012435/mariupol-mayor-says-civilian-death-toll-has-surpassed-10000), now, unfortunately, Izium ... Russia leaves death everywhere. And it must be held accountable for it,"

"We want the world to know what is really happening and what the Russian occupation has led to."

https://theweek.com/ukraine/1016753/ukrainian-authorities-discover-mass-grave-with-over-400-bodies-in-city-of-izium

other reports found bodies tied up, indicating executions

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[Brazil]

:lmao Hater

[boutons_deux]

Pootin calls the mass graves "lies"

[hater]

:tu

Twitter thread on the referendums.

The Eurasianist Russ_Warrior
Referendums in Donetsk, Lugansk and Kherson on joining the Russian Federation are a mobilization in disguise, or how to launch a partial mobilization without actually doing it officially.

Why? Simple, because Russian reservists/conscripts can be deployed to territories in the former Ukraine without the need to change the definition of the SMO, its scope, or transforming it into a real war.

This means the professional Russian Army, Donbass People's Militias, Wagner PMCs and Chechens can stay permanently on the frontline without caring about what happens in the rear.

The inclusion of Lugansk, Donetsk and Kherson into the Russian Federation could lead to an expasion of Russian military presence on former Ukrainian territory to 350k soldiers without mobilization, the added 200k would be on duty as if they were on the rest of Russian territory.

[ChumpDumper]

:tu

Twitter thread on the referendums.

The Eurasianist Russ_Warrior
Referendums in Donetsk, Lugansk and Kherson on joining the Russian Federation are a mobilization in disguise, or how to launch a partial mobilization without actually doing it officially.

Why? Simple, because Russian reservists/conscripts can be deployed to territories in the former Ukraine without the need to change the definition of the SMO, its scope, or transforming it into a real war.

This means the professional Russian Army, Donbass People's Militias, Wagner PMCs and Chechens can stay permanently on the frontline without caring about what happens in the rear.

The inclusion of Lugansk, Donetsk and Kherson into the Russian Federation could lead to an expasion of Russian military presence on former Ukrainian territory to 350k soldiers without mobilization, the added 200k would be on duty as if they were on the rest of Russian territory.

:lmao the backflips

[boutons_deux]

Pootin not winning, so he heard Bannon, and floods the zones with shit

[spurraider21]

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[Winehole23]

some are forecasting a rhetorical shift from "special operation" to "general mobilization"

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[DeadlyDynasty]

Now you must fight or go to the gulag for years:lmao

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[Winehole23]

Now you must fight or go to the gulag for years:lmao

1572163073712046082I thought that was where they were getting their conscripts...

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[Ef-man]

How about that? Unable to enforce his demands. :lol

https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1572209754289717249

[velik_m]

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[Brazil]

:lol as expected... Russia is now pushing to organize a fake vote in occupied territories...

[hater]

Shits getting real :wow

Putovich to speak tomorrow at 8am Russian time and then Shoigu to speak at 8:30 :wow

For all we know they wilk prerecord this and will be in the bunkers inside the Urals by the time the speeches are aired.

:wow

Lets enjoy our last night on earth nigas. I suggest steak, lobster and a bottle of Don P

[hater]

The Revenge of Soleiman :wow

While Kiev’s western partners continue to pay for the Ukrainian army and increase military supplies to the war-torn country, the Russian military reportedly deployed Iranian-made UAVs to hunt the foreign artillery systems on Ukrainian front lines.

The Ukrainian military has confirmed losses inflicted by Iranian-made Shahed-136 suicide drones rebranded as Russian Geranium-2 UAVs.

The artillery commander for Ukraine’s 92nd Mechanized Brigade, told the US media that his forces have already lost at least two 152 mm self-propelled howitzers, two 122 mm self-propelled howitzers and two BTR armored personnel carriers over the past week as a result of attacks by Russian suicide drones.
The commander went on to reveal that last month the Russian military destroyed a US-supplied M777 155 mm towed howitzer with a suicide drone during an apparent test.

According to several reports, Shaheed-129 UAVs are also being used by the Russian military to adjust artillery fire.

Iranian UAV operate at an altitude of about 7,500 meters. The declared range of Shahed-136 is 2500 kilometers. Thus, the foreign artillery used by the Ukrainian military for shelling the territories of the DPR and LPR may become an easy target for them. The Iranian UAVs also provide an operating speed of up to 150 km/h which is 20 km/h more than of the Turkish Bayraktar, which Kiev is so proud of.

Southfront.org


:wow


Shits


Getting


Real.



:wow

[koriwhat]

Fuck both Ukraine and Russia as well as the rest of the world outside of the great USA!

[spurraider21]

Fuck both Ukraine and Russia as well as the rest of the world outside of the great USA!
unprovoked rage

[Joseph Kony]

Fuck both Ukraine and Russia as well as the rest of the world outside of the great USA!
what kind of retard chimes in just to say dumb shit like this :lol

[koriwhat]

unprovoked rage

I'm just going to let you believe your own nonsense. RAGE! :lmao

[koriwhat]

As well, suck a dick Joseph Kony! :lol

I ain't ever reading any of your bitchass replies/posts you fucking pussy.

[Ef-man]

All the winning.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1572334387219533827

[pgardn]

Fuck both Ukraine and Russia as well as the rest of the world outside of the great USA!

Inform the moderators to have this thread taken down.

No foreign affairs allowed!
YOU dgaf...

[pgardn]

For Hater

Time to sign up, good pay!
Desperate times, do your part.



The Russian State Duma separately passed new incentives for foreign nationals to fight in Russia’s military to obtain Russian citizenship and will likely increase overseas recruitment accordingly.[9]That new law, which deputies also rushed through normal procedures on September 20, allows foreign nationals to gain Russian citizenship by signing a contract and serving in the Russian military for one year. Russian law previously required three years of service to apply for citizenship.

[spurraider21]

Putler announcing partial mobilization

[Ef-man]

Must have hit a nerve. :lol

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1548671385228173312

[Ef-man]

More cannon fodder and tears for russian mothers. :wow


https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1572468479063646209

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1572469909485137920

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1572467206339919875

[spurraider21]

:lmao shoigu claiming less than 6k Russian deaths and over 60k Ukrainian :lmao

the copium

[spurraider21]

:lol initial force over 190k now needs a mobilization after less than 6k deaths? :lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol initial force over 190k now needs a mobilization after less than 6k deaths? :lol
:lmao

[hater]

Shits getting real :wow

Putovich to speak tomorrow at 8am Russian time and then Shoigu to speak at 8:30 :wow

For all we know they wilk prerecord this and will be in the bunkers inside the Urals by the time the speeches are aired.

:wow

Lets enjoy our last night on earth nigas. I suggest steak, lobster and a bottle of Don P

:wow


The full speech by the Putovich:

In its aggressive anti-Russian policy, the West has crossed every line. We constantly hear threats against our country, our people. Some irresponsible politicians in the West not only talk about plans to organize the supply of long-range offensive weapons to Ukraine – systems that will allow strikes against the Crimea and other regions of Russia.

Such terrorist strikes, including with the use of Western weapons, are already being carried out on the border settlements of the Belgorod and Kursk regions. In real time, using modern systems, aircraft, ships, satellites, strategic drones, NATO carries out reconnaissance throughout southern Russia.

In Washington, London, Brussels, they are directly pushing Kyiv to transfer military operations to our territory. No longer hiding, they say that Russia should be defeated by all means on the battlefield, followed by the deprivation of political, economic, cultural, in general, any sovereignty, with the complete plunder of our country.

Nuclear blackmail was also launched. We are talking not only about the shelling of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, which is encouraged by the West, which threatens a nuclear catastrophe, but also about the statements of some high-ranking representatives of the leading NATO states about the possibility and admissibility of using weapons of mass destruction against Russia – nuclear weapons.

For those who allow themselves to make such statements about Russia, I would like to remind you that our country also has various means of destruction, and for some components more modern than those of the NATO countries.

And if the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will certainly use all the means at our disposal to protect Russia and our people. It’s not a bluff.

[hater]

Shoigu said an additional 300k Russian troops will join the already 150k :wow

He also mentioned Russia has a total 25 million trained men to wage war if need be and has enough weapons to arm all of them.

Apparently Ukraine was preparing for a massive Spring offensive. Russia will undercut that with a force of 400k men by mid Winter. At the very least manpower will be balanced now. Its most likely going to be a bloody war that will bleed Europe and Russia to almost death.

Also thisnmost certainly means the Donbas will officially become Russian next week and that Russia will go all the way through Odessa.

Also Russia is obviously switching to a partial war production mode. Unless West changes something, they wont be able to keep up weapons production from now on.

Ce


La

Vi

[Brazil]

:lol initial force over 190k now needs a mobilization after less than 6k deaths? :lol

:lmao

[Brazil]

Shoigu said an additional 300k Russian troops will join the already 150k :wow

He also mentioned Russia has a total 25 million trained men to wage war if need be and has enough weapons to arm all of them.

Apparently Ukraine was preparing for a massive Spring offensive. Russia will undercut that with a force of 400k men by mid Winter. At the very least manpower will be balanced now. Its most likely going to be a bloody war that will bleed Europe and Russia to almost death.

Also thisnmost certainly means the Donbas will officially become Russian next week and that Russia will go all the way through Odessa.

Also Russia is obviously switching to a partial war production mode. Unless West changes something, they wont be able to keep up weapons production from now on.

Ce


La

Vi

5 days :lmao clown

and it's not ce la vi it's c'est la vie

[hater]

Southfront

Today in his speech, the head of the Russian Defense Ministry Sergei Shoigu declared that about 70 military, over 200 civilian satellites and the military of North Atlantic Alliance, who commands the operations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, are working in Ukraine in the interests of Kiev.

The main goal of the SVO remains the same. It is the complete liberation of Donbass. From September 23 to 27, the DPR, LPR the Kherson and Zaporozhie regions will hold referendum on joining the Russian Federation. Putin confirmed that Russia will support the decision of the people on these territories.



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[hater]

Intelslava

What will Russia get after the referendum?

▫️Russia will add 5 to 6 million new citizens.
▫️In the future, when refugees begin to return, the total population of the new regions may grow to 8-9 million people.

The area of ​​the liberated territories where the referendums will be held is about 113,000 square kilometers.

▫️In terms of area, this is larger than Bulgaria, Cuba or South Korea.

▫️The population is larger than Belgium, Belarus, Israel or Austria.



:wow




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Vi

[Big Empty]

They bringing 60 year old eldery retirees back HA HA HA HA HA HA pinche Putler

[DeadlyDynasty]

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[Brazil]

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from :lol 5 days to desperation... :cry nuclear :cry mobilization :cry


:lmao

[Trill Clinton]

Putin throwing a hail mary. Man is going out sad and India and China basically telling him to hold his own nuts.

[Ef-man]

Damn, these falls seem contagious.

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1572527509668876289

[boutons_deux]

One item not mentioned very often is the stolen $Ts of Ukraine national wealth in areas that Pootin has occupied.

Ukraine must keep fighting to push Pootin out or several $10Ts lost in national wealth forever.

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1572196550251614208

[velik_m]

:lmao shoigu claiming less than 6k Russian deaths and over 60k Ukrainian :lmao

the copium

Even with that made up low number means that Russia lost about 40% of what they lost in all 10 years of war in Afghanistan in just 6 months.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Damn, these falls seem contagious.

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1572527509668876289
This has to be the number one cause of death inside Russia.

We all know what the leading cause is outside Russia, and it sure as shit ain’t COVID

[hater]

They bringing 60 year old eldery retirees back HA HA HA HA HA HA pinche Putler

Its only fair. Kokaine Komedian has been sending 70 year olds to the front lines :lol

[velik_m]

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[velik_m]

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[hater]

Even with that made up low number means that Russia lost about 40% of what they lost in all 10 years of war in Afghanistan in just 6 months.

Shoigus #s are BS

You basically have to double Shoigus #s to reach real ones. On both sides.

That mqkes about 11k Russians killed and 120k Ukranians killed

[velik_m]

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[ChumpDumper]

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When are you moving to Russia, hater?

[ChumpDumper]

Shoigus #s are BS

You basically have to double Shoigus #s to reach real ones. On both sides.

That mqkes about 11k Russians killed and 120k Ukranians killed

Why would he underestimate Ukrainian deaths, hater?

[hater]

Why would he underestimate Ukrainian deaths, hater?

The ratio. Hes using the correct ratio. 10x ukros have died more than Russians (not counting rebel alliance soldiers)

[ChumpDumper]

The ratio. Hes using the correct ratio. 10x ukros have died more than Russians (not counting rebel alliance soldiers)That doesn't explain why he would underreport Ukrainian deaths.

Why would he underreport Ukranian deaths?

Also, how did you determine this is the correct ratio?

[DeadlyDynasty]

The ratio. Hes using the correct ratio. 10x ukros have died more than Russians (not counting rebel alliance soldiers)
Are these Steven Seagal statistics again?

[hater]

That doesn't explain why he would underreport Ukrainian deaths.

Why would he underreport Ukranian deaths?

Also, how did you determine this is the correct ratio?

Based on all the #s I been following. The ratio is correct.

If Shoigu said only 5k Russians died and 100k Ukros the ratio woukd be :lol and Russians woukd ask why the partial mobilization then?

If you include Donbas militias and Mercs (wagner) the ratio drops to 1/5

[DeadlyDynasty]

10x Ukrainian population has died (in Mariupol alone), that’s for sure.

[ChumpDumper]

Based on all the #s I been following. The ratio is correct. Whose numbers have you been following?

Are you counting civilian deaths?

Walk us through your methodology.

[hater]

Are these Steven Seagal statistics again?

"We have lost only 2,500 soldiers while inflicting 50k deaths on Russians. Slava Kokaine!" - Ukranian Army


:lmao :lmao :lmao

[DeadlyDynasty]

“Based on the #’s I’ve been following.” :lmao:lmao:lmao

[hater]

"We have lost only 2,500 soldiers while inflicting 50k deaths on Russians. Slava Kokaine!" - Ukranian Army


:lmao :lmao :lmao

:lmao

[DeadlyDynasty]

Got any updated predictions for how this latest move will work out for Putin? How do you see this conflict ending, and when?

[hater]

:lmao

The European Union is not at war with Russia, but it would continue to support Ukraine in its fight against Moscow, EU foreign policy spokesman Peter Stano said on Wednesday. The statement came hours after Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a partial mobilization of troops.

[hater]

Got any updated predictions for how this latest move will work out for Putin? How do you see this conflict ending, and when?

I stick to my original prediction that this is a miscalculation by Russia.

But I was clearly wrong on the economic aspect. As Europe is gonna have a much rougher winter than Russia.

Lets just hope for some kind of a peace deal because otherwise the options are running thin. A nuclear catastrophe is more and more likely.

Lets pray for peace and prepare for the worse :tu

[ChumpDumper]

I stick to my original prediction that this is a miscalculation by Russia. Your original prediction was that Russia was going to take over all of Ukraine in 3-5 days.

Where do you get your casualty numbers to determine your golden ratios, hater?

[Winehole23]

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[Brazil]

I stick to my original prediction that this is a miscalculation by Russia.

But I was clearly wrong on the economic aspect. As Europe is gonna have a much rougher winter than Russia.

Lets just hope for some kind of a peace deal because otherwise the options are running thin. A nuclear catastrophe is more and more likely.

Lets pray for peace and prepare for the worse :tu

Initial prediction was that Russia would take over Ukraine in 5 days and tanks don't use roads... :lmao

stick to your prediction better stick to your ass :lmao

[Ef-man]

Thank you putler!

US dollar hits new 20-year high as Russia calls up reservists.

https://www.cnn.com/dollar-up-russia-mobilization (https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/21/investing/global-markets-dollar-russia-mobilization)

[DeadlyDynasty]

I stick to my original prediction that this is a miscalculation by Russia.

But I was clearly wrong on the economic aspect. As Europe is gonna have a much rougher winter than Russia.

Lets just hope for some kind of a peace deal because otherwise the options are running thin. A nuclear catastrophe is more and more likely.

Lets pray for peace and prepare for the worse :tu
It can end now if Russia removes themselves from Ukraine’s sovereign territories.

I get it though, you hitched your wagon to a loser and you’re only option is to repeatedly double-down to the bitter end

[DeadlyDynasty]

Got dayum, 2 massive explosions just now about 2-4km from our hotel in Kram

[DeadlyDynasty]

Let’s play “guess which civilian target they struck this time”:

A. Hospital
B. School
C. Mall
D. Hotel (like 3 days ago)

Answer TBC tomorrow morning after curfew ends

[Ef-man]

Russians seem mobilized.

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1572623436048125954

[DeadlyDynasty]

Russians seem mobilized.

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1572623436048125954
No hiding/glossing over it now.

This is the beginning of the end for this regime. Just imagine how bad the protests will get when these inexperienced, underequipped, and incompetently-led young men get slaughtered against a seasoned army with a load of western weapons at their disposal.

[Ef-man]

More antique tanks for russian troops to die in.

https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1572547554675687428

[Ef-man]

"Cost of living" for men of a certain age in russia just went up! :lol

https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1572523265427656706

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1572536501111787521

[boutons_deux]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdLoMAhWYAAxOuH?format=jpg&name=small

[DeadlyDynasty]

1572638727284875267
hater (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609)

Their own citizens—who are subjected from birth to nonstop anti-West propaganda—are taking to the streets a mere 12 hours after Putin’s speech.

It wasn’t enough that Putin isolated himself from every country (that matters), he now is isolating himself on the home front too:lol

each move, more embarrassing than the last

[velik_m]

"Cost of living" for men of a certain age in russia just went up! :lol

https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1572523265427656706

1572623124557881348

[velik_m]

1572633418780868610

[Ef-man]

1571911381787746304

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1572547932880244739

Even putler's little buddies are moving away from him: Armenia, Vietnam and Kazakhstan suspend use of Russian Mir cards. :wow

[Leetonidas]

wOrLd PeAcE :lmao

[boutons_deux]

“one mystified cabinet member was struck by the delusional nature of it,” while “other advisers tried to keep the idea from leaking out for fear that it would cause a diplomatic incident.”

"Can't think of a reason why not to arm thousands, ideally tens of thousands of antisocial recidivist murderers who would suddenly be expected to follow the strictest social order conceived — an army. With an AK47 in hand," deadpanned Bellingcat's lead Russia investigator Christo Grozev (https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1570500774840631298).

With inmate mercenaries, "their atrocities cross all human boundaries,"

Putin's increasing reliance on "irregular volunteer and proxy forces rather than conventional units and formations of the Russian Federation Armed Forces" suggests a "souring relationship with the military command,"

"The formation of such ad-hoc units will lead to further tensions, inequality, and an overall lack of cohesiveness between forces," and it "adds little effective combat power to Russian forces fighting in Ukraine."

"Professional military staff are likely to confront behavioral issues among recruited prisoners,

especially considering the likely prevalence of prisoners convicted of violent crimes, narcotics, and rape,"

The one thing they have in common is wholly inadequate training and preparation for combat."

"the reported arrival of increasing numbers of irregular Russian forces on the battlefield has had little to no impact on Russian operations."

"the impact of Russia's manpower challenge has become increasingly severe,"

two of the most critical shortages within the military manning crisis are probably combat infantry and junior commanders."

"The Russians are apparently directing some of the very limited reserves available in Ukraine" to "meaningless offensive operations around Donetsk City and Bakhmut

instead of focusing on defending against Ukrainian counteroffensives that continue to advance," ISW writes (https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-17).

That "might indicate that Russian theater decision-making remains questionable."

https://theweek.com/russo-ukrainian-war/1016777/can-russia-halt-ukraines-gains-with-jail-recruits-and-mercenaries

[hater]

Initial prediction was that Russia would take over Ukraine in 5 days and tanks don't use roads... :lmao

stick to your prediction better stick to your ass :lmao

Post #1964 ma niga posted February 24, 2022:



I live closer to the white house tha u, niglet :lmao

This is a huge Russian miscalculation. And huge win for us nig.

I did not expect Russia to make such a dumb move. They will not gain anything from this but lose a lot.

Europe is fucked. They now belong to us :tu

Its a great time to be american I guess :lol





Im sticking to this. Just as I stuck to my prediction Russia woukd not invade. I ate crow that day as well.




But ce la vi



Sticking to this:




I live closer to the white house tha u, niglet :lmao

This is a huge Russian miscalculation. And huge win for us nig.

I did not expect Russia to make such a dumb move. They will not gain anything from this but lose a lot.

Europe is fucked. They now belong to us :tu

Its a great time to be american I guess :lol

[hater]

It can end now if Russia removes themselves from Ukraine’s sovereign territories.

I get it though, you hitched your wagon to a loser and you’re only option is to repeatedly double-down to the bitter end

Posted February 24, 2022 plst # 1964


Filed and documented



I live closer to the white house tha u, niglet :lmao

This is a huge Russian miscalculation. And huge win for us nig.

I did not expect Russia to make such a dumb move. They will not gain anything from this but lose a lot.

Europe is fucked. They now belong to us :tu

Its a great time to be american I guess :lol

[hater]

1572638727284875267
hater (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609)

Their own citizens—who are subjected from birth to nonstop anti-West propaganda—are taking to the streets a mere 12 hours after Putin’s speech.

It wasn’t enough that Putin isolated himself from every country (that matters), he now is isolating himself on the home front too:lol

each move, more embarrassing than the last

Yeah lets see Ukranians try to protest their current government.


Oh thats right. They did in 2014 and got burned to death by death squads

[ChumpDumper]

Post #1964 ma niga posted February 24, 2022:








Im sticking to this. Just as I stuck to my prediction Russia woukd not invade. I ate crow that day as well.




But ce la vi



Sticking to this:

You didn't stick to that.

Why lie? We all know what you posted.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah lets see Ukranians try to protest their current government.


Oh thats right. They did in 2014 and got burned to death by death squads

Link?

[Brazil]

Post #1964 ma niga posted February 24, 2022:








Im sticking to this. Just as I stuck to my prediction Russia woukd not invade. I ate crow that day as well.




But ce la vi



Sticking to this:

if I had to post everything dumb you said ... it would take take another 900 pages thread

:lol despite miscalculation, you spent your time in this thread explaining Russia would destroy Ukraine in 5 days, that tanks don't use roads, that Putin is the greatest military genius ever etc etc

you were wrong during 900 pages of thread c'est la vie... your hero is now threatening once again to go nuclear and commanding a mobilization to save face against fucking Ukraine :lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

Link?
This, but an actual link and not some bullshit pro-Russian twitter bot.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Another eager recruit heading for the meatgrinder

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[velik_m]

1572667742767153152

[hater]

Lavrov :wow

"Today, Western states funnel weapons and military hardware into the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev, and train Ukraine’s armed forces. NATO and US weapons are used to fire at Russian territory bordering Ukraine, killing civilians there. The Pentagon does not hide that it’s providing Kiev with intelligence and target designations for strikes. We’ve recorded the presence of American mercenaries and advisers on the battlefield,” Lavrov told the US magazine.

"The United States, in fact, is teetering on the brink of turning into a party to the conflict. This is to your question about the risk of a direct collision between nuclear powers. "



Shits getting real :wow

[ChumpDumper]

Lavrov :wow

"Today, Western states funnel weapons and military hardware into the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev, and train Ukraine’s armed forces. NATO and US weapons are used to fire at Russian territory bordering Ukraine, killing civilians there. The Pentagon does not hide that it’s providing Kiev with intelligence and target designations for strikes. We’ve recorded the presence of American mercenaries and advisers on the battlefield,” Lavrov told the US magazine.

"The United States, in fact, is teetering on the brink of turning into a party to the conflict. This is to your question about the risk of a direct collision between nuclear powers. "



Shits getting real :wow

All Russia has to do is leave.:tu

[Joseph Kony]

As well, suck a dick Joseph Kony (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31867)! :lol

I ain't ever reading any of your bitchass replies/posts you fucking pussy.

of course you do :lol no one believes that you dont. and if you actually dont its 10x more sad that you put this much effort into responding to posts you supposedly dont even read :lmao

[koriwhat]

^
There's always 2 fairy's... If it isn't BlaKKKe and JK, it's JK and CumDumpster, or BlaKKKe and CumDumpster. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

^
There's always 2 fairy's... If it isn't BlaKKKe and JK, it's JK and CumDumpster, or BlaKKKe and CumDumpster. :lol

*fairies

[spurraider21]

Lavrov :wow

"Today, Western states funnel weapons and military hardware into the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev, and train Ukraine’s armed forces. NATO and US weapons are used to fire at Russian territory bordering Ukraine, killing civilians there. The Pentagon does not hide that it’s providing Kiev with intelligence and target designations for strikes. We’ve recorded the presence of American mercenaries and advisers on the battlefield,” Lavrov told the US magazine.

"The United States, in fact, is teetering on the brink of turning into a party to the conflict. This is to your question about the risk of a direct collision between nuclear powers. "



Shits getting real :wow
:lol theyre not going to do shit

if they are getting their shit pushed in by ukraine getting some US aid here and there, what would they be able to do against the US itself

would just be suicide and they know it.

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572683859216728066

[hater]

^
There's always 2 fairy's... If it isn't BlaKKKe and JK, it's JK and CumDumpster, or BlaKKKe and CumDumpster. :lol

:lmao

[hater]

:lol theyre not going to do shit

if they are getting their shit pushed in by ukraine getting some US aid here and there, what would they be able to do against the US itself

would just be suicide and they know it.

"He, she, they, them army"


:lmao


Sure, Jan

[spurraider21]

"He, she, they, them army"


:lmao


Sure, Jan
https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/us-tanks-gender-pronouns-they-them-vs-russian-tanks-destroyed.jpg

[Ef-man]

Yeah lets see Ukranians try to protest their current government.


Oh thats right. They did in 2014 and got burned to death by death squads

Speaking of protests, Iranian civilians are in on the protesting action and they fucked a government employee with taser.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1572641822526304256

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Speaking of protests, Iranian civilians are in on the protesting action and they fucked a government employee with taser.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1572641822526304256

Yeah a lot of people got pissed when a woman was beaten to death for not wearing her hijab like they wanted.

[hater]

https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/us-tanks-gender-pronouns-they-them-vs-russian-tanks-destroyed.jpg

:lmao thinking a destroyed tank is worse than a transgender tank heading to a pride parade :lmao

[spurraider21]

Fuck both Ukraine and Russia as well as the rest of the world outside of the great USA!
koriwhat: fuck russia and everyone outside the great USA

also koriwhat: likes hater's post shitting on the US military and suggesting russia would beat them in a war

:lol always too pussy to just state his actual positions on anything

[hater]

koriwhat: fuck russia and everyone outside the great USA

also koriwhat: likes hater's post shitting on the US military and suggesting russia would beat them in a war

:lol always too pussy to just state his actual positions on anything

:lmao. When did I say Russia would beat US in a conventional war?

I do laugh at the fact that 1/2 the american tanks would drive to the nearest pride parade and twerk :lmao

But noone would win as things would escalate quickly and go nuclear

Look where we are now. Not even at war and both sides are already depleting their arsennals and having economic meltdowns :lol

[spurraider21]

:lmao. When did I say Russia would beat US in a conventional war?

I do laugh at the fact that 1/2 the american tanks would drive to the nearest pride parade and twerk :lmao

But noone would win as things would escakate quickly and go nuclear
i said you implied it

when i said the US would push russia's shit in, your response was "sure jan" because of gender or something lmao

[hater]

i said you implied it

when i said the US would push russia's shit in, your response was "sure jan"

:lmao if they would push Russias shit in then why dont we just go ahead and do it in Ukraine? :lol

US public would rebel if we start getting coffins by the thousands back with our dead boys. And that would absolutely happen. Theres no scenario where thousands of americans dont die.

This aint hollywood Nancy :lol

[spurraider21]

:lmao if they would push Russias shit in then why dont we just go ahead and do it in Ukraine? :lol

US public would rebel if we start getting coffins by the thousands back with our dead boys. And that would absolutely happen. Theres no scenario where thousands of americans dont die.

This aint hollywood Nancy :lol
i dont think the US wants to have an actual military engagement right now. not something the people would get behind tbh, especially considering the general relief that we are finally done with iraq/afghanistan

thats not to say that if the US did decide to wage war, they wouldnt crush the ruskies

[hater]

i dont think the US wants to have an actual military engagement right now. not something the people would get behind tbh, especially considering the general relief that we are finally done with iraq/afghanistan

thats not to say that if the US did decide to wage war, they wouldnt crush the ruskies

How would the US crush he ruskies please tell me this scenario.

I want to submit it to the studios it woukd make great Hollywood fiction :lmao


Please explain this scenario.....

[spurraider21]

How would the US crush he ruskies please tell me this scenario.

I want to submit it to the studios it woukd make great Hollywood fiction :lmao


Please explain this scenario.....
why do you need hollywood? just look at how fucking ukraine is acting as a meat grinder for russia's military. america has significantly more capability than ukraine's armed forces

[Ef-man]

koriwhat: fuck russia and everyone outside the great USA

also koriwhat: likes hater's post shitting on the US military and suggesting russia would beat them in a war

:lol always too pussy to just state his actual positions on anything

Happens when you have a shit education; you end up inking drunks for a living and not caring for anything.

[hater]

why do you need hollywood? just look at how fucking ukraine is acting as a meat grinder for russia's military. america has significantly more capability than ukraine's armed forces

Ukraine has more than 100k casualties. Its a meatgrinder for both. Except Russia is grinding more meat at tbe moment due to their superior artillery game.

Now go ahead. Explain to me how US would crush Russia without losing thousands of americans in the meatgrinder. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao thinking a destroyed tank is worse than a transgender tank heading to a pride parade :lmaoWhich would you rather fight in?

The destroyed tank?

[ChumpDumper]

Ukraine has more than 100k casualties. Its a meatgrinder for both. Except Russia is grinding more meat at tbe moment due to their superior artillery game.

Now go ahead. Explain to me how US would crush Russia without losing thousands of americans in the meatgrinder. :lol

Where are you getting your numbers?

Link please.

[spurraider21]

Ukraine has more than 100k casualties. Its a meatgrinder for both. Except Russia is grinding more meat at tbe moment due to their superior artillery game.

Now go ahead. Explain to me how US would crush Russia without losing thousands of americans in the meatgrinder. :lol
:lol made up numbers. 100k deaths. 3-5 days. what's next?

where did i say the US wouldnt lose thousands?

[Ef-man]

why do you need hollywood? just look at how fucking ukraine is acting as a meat grinder for russia's military. america has significantly more capability than ukraine's armed forces

Hater looking for ideas for his screenplay: “C’est la Vie or The road that should not have been taken in the 3-5 day special operation that should not have happened but that I called.”

[hater]

:lol made up numbers. 100k deaths. 3-5 days. what's next?

where did i say the US wouldnt lose thousands?

They are at mobilization #5 or 6 :lmao why the fuck u think that is duffus :lmao

They are also begging for weapons.

Think about this for a second,Nancy :lmao

[spurraider21]

They are at mobilization #5 or 6 :lmao why the fuck u think that is duffus :lmao

They are also begging for weapons.

Think about this for a second,Nancy :lmao
they want weapons, not men

[koriwhat]

koriwhat: fuck russia and everyone outside the great USA

also koriwhat: likes hater's post shitting on the US military and suggesting russia would beat them in a war

:lol always too pussy to just state his actual positions on anything

Wait, what? I rarely if ever like Hater's posts. The dude is funny sometimes just because he riles up you pussies but I like DMC's posts more and that can be confirmed by the endless tears from you pathetic fucks.

As well, I always say, "Fuck Ukraine and Russia as well as the rest of the world other than the great USA", so get your facts right you shit lawyer. You'd be better chasing ambulance's in on coming traffic bro.