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12-14-2023, 05:40 PM
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Ef-man
12-14-2023, 09:18 PM
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1735366533998641647
https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1735359503107838098
Deep knee bend Orban :lol
You didn't answer the question.
One can only conclude you don't know how international diplomacy works with Putin.
Or that your question is ultimately irrelevant because what I said applies to Putin or any dictator that acts in his interest.
Korean armistice is enforced by USA and 30000 US soldiers. Korean border length is also only a tenth of Russia-Ukraine border and much more defensible. USA committing a quarter million US soldier to defense and protection of Ukraine is certainly one option, but you will have to increase the US defense budget significantly for it to work.
You may not realize this but you're also talking about the circumstances that we'll face even if Ukraine kicked Russia out entirely (which it won't). Because Russia won't simply disappear and Ukraine will not be allowed to invade and totally disarm Russia (not that they're capable of that either).
The aid is going to continue even after the fighting stops but will be less. The G7 is negotiating security assurances for Ukraine to cover this. It's all going to be difficult and messy and expensive no matter what happens, but I think it'll be far better for Ukraine and US if the major hostilities end now.
clambake
12-14-2023, 10:06 PM
Why don’t they just leave?
daboom1
12-14-2023, 10:37 PM
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boutons_deux
12-14-2023, 11:30 PM
Pootin says he has 600K+ troops in Ukraine
Everyone very well clothed, fed, armed, of course
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12-14-2023, 11:57 PM
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velik_m
12-15-2023, 02:10 AM
You may not realize this but you're also talking about the circumstances that we'll face even if Ukraine kicked Russia out entirely (which it won't). Because Russia won't simply disappear and Ukraine will not be allowed to invade and totally disarm Russia (not that they're capable of that either).
The aid is going to continue even after the fighting stops but will be less. The G7 is negotiating security assurances for Ukraine to cover this. It's all going to be difficult and messy and expensive no matter what happens, but I think it'll be far better for Ukraine and US if the major hostilities end now.
Ukraine pushing to Azov sea, puts most Russian Black sea trade roots in range, putting Russia in much weaker position and Ukraine in much stronger position and that's ignoring that Russia retreating from Ukraine most probably means end of Putin regime.
velik_m
12-15-2023, 02:16 AM
Or that your question is ultimately irrelevant because what I said applies to Putin or any dictator that acts in his interest.
Dictators are in their own isolated information bubble, surrounded by yes men. They make stupid decisions against their own best interest all the time, far more often than democratic leadership. Like when Hitler attacked his all Soviet union, that was supplying the with food and oil, while at war with Britain. Or like Hitler declared war on USA while already in war with UK and soviet union. Or like when Saddam attacked Kuwait. Or like when Putin attacked Ukraine.
If Putin thinks he can win against NATO, because NATO is weak and unable to commit, and republicans are willing to run interference for him in US congress, who will tell him, he's wrong?
velik_m
12-15-2023, 02:26 AM
https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1735470638712713685
ChumpDumper
12-15-2023, 03:56 AM
Or that your question is ultimately irrelevant because what I said applies to Putin or any dictator that acts in his interest.
No. You actively dodged the question and tried to answer a question that was not asked.
Why?
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12-15-2023, 08:03 AM
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Ukraine pushing to Azov sea, puts most Russian Black sea trade roots in range, putting Russia in much weaker position and Ukraine in much stronger position and that's ignoring that Russia retreating from Ukraine most probably means end of Putin regime.
We've been hearing "end of Putin regime" predictions for some time. We even heard plenty of bull about Putin's health completely failing and that he might even be dead last year. I think he's proven his control on power is more durable than we thought.
What you're describing sounds like wishful thinking to me.
No. You actively dodged the question and tried to answer a question that was not asked.
Why?
Because your question doesn't really matter. Ukraine has no realistic path to the kind of total victory you and others seem to imagine... You know that.
So ultimately this is going to come down to negotiations or turn into a long drawn out stalemate.
FuzzyLumpkins
12-15-2023, 06:04 PM
Because your question doesn't really matter. Ukraine has no realistic path to the kind of total victory you and others seem to imagine... You know that.
So ultimately this is going to come down to negotiations or turn into a long drawn out stalemate.
Nice false dichotomy, Neville.
Ef-man
12-15-2023, 06:59 PM
Days :lol
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1735634359451861444
ChumpDumper
12-15-2023, 07:14 PM
Because your question doesn't really matter. Ukraine has no realistic path to the kind of total victory you and others seem to imagine... You know that.
So ultimately this is going to come down to negotiations or turn into a long drawn out stalemate.
Just say you can't answer the question honestly.
Can you do that?
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12-15-2023, 08:24 PM
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velik_m
12-16-2023, 03:22 AM
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1735775504911708336
velik_m
12-16-2023, 03:29 AM
United States To Gain Access To 15 Military Bases In Finland
Finland will sign a defence agreement next week giving the United States access to 15 military bases in NATO's newest member, the Finnish defence ministry said on Friday.
"The Defence Cooperation Agreement (DCA) is to be signed in Washington DC" on Monday by Defence Minister Antti Hakkanen and US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, the foreign affairs ministry said.
The treaty must then be approved by the Nordic country's parliament.
"The DCA will strengthen Finland’s defence because it enables the presence and training of US forces and the prepositioning of defence material in the territory of Finland," the foreign ministry continued.
"It will also support the implementation of NATO’s deterrence and defence."
Foreign Minister Elina Valtonen will be present in Washington during the signing to meet Blinken.
The United States signed a similar pact with Sweden on December 6 that gives Washington access to 17 military bases.
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FrostKing
12-16-2023, 06:31 AM
https://www.barrons.com/news/united-states-to-gain-access-to-15-military-bases-in-finland-06df226f
Velik, nice to meet you. What's your angle in this?
The war is turning. Russia did their classic bunker down war economy for 3 years. Their citizens lost but they knew eventually Western funds & involvement would climax.
Europe is moving right politically, more focus inward on European issues. I'm not sure where that leaves Ukraine but even my most Stout Polish supporters have recently taken a step back. Zelenskyy is now unliked by allies. West won't leave Ukraine out to dry but I'd seek resolution.
FrostKing
12-16-2023, 06:41 AM
Why don’t they just leave?
Because no one can make them. Remember we had to split Berlin in two?
DMX is right. I think Ukraine will have to forfeit some land to get Putin to entirely leave. He will celebrate it with his people.
Europe has terrorism brewing. We need to figure out our Southern border situation. Lower inflation. Great run but it's over. We saved Ukraine and Russia got their little land back.
If Putin is willing to tarnish 20+ years of good guy role (hosting Olympics & World Cup) for land then so be it. We still kicked their ass on the battle field and will do it again. Back to your corner.
ChumpDumper
12-16-2023, 09:51 AM
:lmao "good guy role"
FuzzyLumpkins
12-16-2023, 10:43 AM
Velik, nice to meet you. What's your angle in this?
The war is turning. Russia did their classic bunker down war economy for 3 years. Their citizens lost but they knew eventually Western funds & involvement would climax.
Europe is moving right politically, more focus inward on European issues. I'm not sure where that leaves Ukraine but even my most Stout Polish supporters have recently taken a step back. Zelenskyy is now unliked by allies. West won't leave Ukraine out to dry but I'd seek resolution.
THis take on European polity made sense 10 years ago.
Poland rejected right wing politics just last month.
FrostKing
12-16-2023, 11:00 AM
THis take on European polity made sense 10 years ago.
Poland rejected right wing politics just last month.
Polska is arguing over birth control. This is good move.
FrostKing
12-16-2023, 11:06 AM
Nothing Polska did was revolutionary. Just required documents at the border. A nation where everyone is accounted for and protected.
FrostKing
12-16-2023, 11:11 AM
I'm native born and I've been scrutinized. During Covid arrived with expired passport. 15 other people waiting for verification. "Who is picking you up. Where you going."
Polska is picky. Old fashioned communist bureaucracy. This was Warsaw too.
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12-16-2023, 11:57 AM
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velik_m
12-16-2023, 12:28 PM
THis take on European polity made sense 10 years ago.
Poland rejected right wing politics just last month.
Wait till he finds out about next UK elections...
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12-16-2023, 01:04 PM
Wait till he finds out about next UK elections...
Said "Wait" will be short...they have one about every 6 months.
velik_m
12-16-2023, 01:12 PM
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https://twitter.com/abdujalil/status/1735995035869421701
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12-16-2023, 03:04 PM
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12-16-2023, 03:05 PM
https://twitter.com/PaulNiland/status/1735996781471686861
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...just 80% of it. Putin has the other 20%.
tee, hee.
Ef-man
12-16-2023, 05:29 PM
Days :lol
https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1736076126651318587
Ef-man
12-16-2023, 05:38 PM
Thanks NK
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1735775504911708336
FrostKing
12-16-2023, 06:36 PM
Wait till he finds out about next UK elections...
Mark my words Ukraine will have to give up land in the East. No one is capable of putting boots on the ground and forcing the Russians out.
Land in Slavic Eastern Europe comes & goes. Kiev was once Polish. Most of those lands are heavily Russian populated anyway. Why would you want them.
Thus the issue with Zelenzyy. He won't stop, why would he. Celebrity.
FrostKing
12-16-2023, 06:51 PM
Does Ukraine even have historical ties/battles to those cities?
You're gigantic. The size of Poland & Germany combined
This isn't debating over Serbian access to seaside. Surrender that land and we celebrate saving Ukraine.
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12-16-2023, 06:58 PM
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FrostKing
12-16-2023, 06:59 PM
We kicked their ass and will again but it's over. Give Putin a bone to pack up and leave. They hunkered down for 3 years. They can celebrate too.
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12-16-2023, 07:02 PM
We kicked their ass and will again but it's over. Give Putin a bone to pack up and leave. They hunkered down for 3 years. They can celebrate too.
You gotta get that 20% back first, Frosty. Otherwise you lose. That was Z's line in the sand. And I'm holdin' him to it, 100%.
Let us proceed...
FrostKing
12-16-2023, 07:06 PM
End of the day they are fellow Europeans. Who knows how politics might change. Both sides accomplished their goals. But they need to improve if they wanna be on our team.
clambake
12-16-2023, 09:02 PM
Uh oh
Bender alert
Ef-man
12-16-2023, 09:57 PM
Unsafe to leave anti-tank mines lying around, someone can get hurt
https://x.com/HimarsAtacms/status/1732670436847087703
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12-16-2023, 11:43 PM
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Ef-man
12-17-2023, 12:17 AM
Another russian failed attack
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1736102722879832329
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12-17-2023, 12:20 AM
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velik_m
12-17-2023, 03:16 AM
https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1736019216610758705
velik_m
12-17-2023, 08:22 AM
https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1736364963336184028
Mark my words Ukraine will have to give up land in the East. No one is capable of putting boots on the ground and forcing the Russians out.
Land in Slavic Eastern Europe comes & goes. Kiev was once Polish. Most of those lands are heavily Russian populated anyway. Why would you want them.
Thus the issue with Zelenzyy. He won't stop, why would he. Celebrity.
“Why would he”…. Yes, as long as others are paying the bills then why not refuse to negotiate?
As some point, I wouldn’t put it past UKR to start asking for troops from NATO countries as well. “Whatever it takes” Indeed.
Because no one can make them. Remember we had to split Berlin in two?
DMX is right. I think Ukraine will have to forfeit some land to get Putin to entirely leave. He will celebrate it with his people.
And Korea is still split in two.
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12-17-2023, 09:49 AM
And Korea is still split in two.
...true, but the South half is a vacation paradise to where GI's jockey vehemently for assignment.
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12-17-2023, 09:58 AM
“Why would he”…. Yes, as long as others are paying the bills then why not refuse to negotiate?
As some point, I wouldn’t put it past UKR to start asking for troops from NATO countries as well. “Whatever it takes” Indeed.
Perhaps, which is why this (war) will continue. It is Putin's last chance to fight Ukraine without NATO (lawfully) coming in and forcing the retrieval of Nuclear Codes in Russia. At the first the U.S. tried mightily to downplay the danger that Ukraine faced as if that would deter Russia. And then once Russia attacked almost 2 years ago the U.S. and NATO adamantly refused to allow Ukraine into NATO until after (this war) was over. That refusal was to calm Russia/Putin so that the Nuclear Codes were not readied then. Blinken knows precisely where the bear shits in the buckwheat, he's a fuck, but a smart fuck...and is now trying to find a path to allow immediate/at least soon admittance into NATO for Ukraine. It's those Russian Nuclear Codes that are and will remain the tricky part. The U.S. needs no longer the assassination of President Trump, but, most urgently the killing of Putin.
ElNono
12-17-2023, 10:24 AM
Mark my words Ukraine will have to give up land in the East. No one is capable of putting boots on the ground and forcing the Russians out.
Land in Slavic Eastern Europe comes & goes. Kiev was once Polish. Most of those lands are heavily Russian populated anyway. Why would you want them.
Thus the issue with Zelenzyy. He won't stop, why would he. Celebrity.
Afghanistan did it. That’s actually Russia’s latest intervention pre-Ukraine.
You’re again confusing the Soviet Union with Russia.
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12-17-2023, 10:49 AM
Afghanistan did it. That’s actually Russia’s latest intervention pre-Ukraine.
You’re again confusing the Soviet Union with Russia.
And kicked our ass outta there as well, sending 13 of our children needing nary a seat for the flight on home, just space for 13 body bags...Biden? He motorcaded on out to Dover, and was waiting for 'em as they stepped down from the plane...had his watch with him too.
tee, hee.
FuzzyLumpkins
12-17-2023, 11:56 AM
Afghanistan did it. That’s actually Russia’s latest intervention pre-Ukraine.
You’re again confusing the Soviet Union with Russia.
I just love how his lessons from history are basically self loathing of his claimed personality.
ChumpDumper
12-17-2023, 12:06 PM
And Korea is still split in two.
:lol still dodging
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12-17-2023, 12:25 PM
I just love how his lessons from history are basically self loathing of his claimed personality.
You followed him into Afghanistan, bub. And came out the other end running for your lives, losing 13 at the last, comin' home in body bags to find Biden with his watch as they stepped down from the plane out at Dover.
You've nary room, Lumps.
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:lol still dodging
There's only one way to find out how a potential deal under the current circumstances would workout -- that's by starting the negotiations and working towards one. Why are you so afraid to even try?
Do you still actually believe Ukraine is taking back Crimea by force? :lol
ChumpDumper
12-17-2023, 01:38 PM
There's only one way to find out how a potential deal under the current circumstances would workout -- that's by starting the negotiations and working towards one. Why are you so afraid to even try?
Do you still actually believe Ukraine is taking back Crimea by force? :lol
When did I say that?
Link, please.
And everyone but you already knows how reliable Putin is.
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12-17-2023, 03:14 PM
When did I say that?
Link, please.
And everyone but you already knows how reliable Putin is.
& it was you who followed him into Afghanistan, bub. And came out the other end running for your lives, losing 13 at the last, comin' home in body bags to find Biden with his watch as they stepped down from the plane out at Dover.
You've nary room, Dumper.
Ef-man
12-17-2023, 06:54 PM
Russians shot their own aircraft down :lol
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1736480655876280476
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Ef-man
12-17-2023, 11:23 PM
Welcome to Ukraine
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1736443213735415974
Ef-man
12-17-2023, 11:33 PM
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1736366179730460990
Ef-man
12-17-2023, 11:34 PM
putler with the jokes. Bet Simo Häyhä is laughing at this :lol
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1736341032525038012
ElNono
12-17-2023, 11:43 PM
putler with the jokes. Bet Simo Häyhä is laughing at this :lol
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1736341032525038012
lmao Vladimir Cuckin
Ef-man
12-17-2023, 11:53 PM
russia
https://x.com/igorsushko/status/1736486881171509334
Ef-man
12-18-2023, 12:03 AM
Thank you Kim!!!
https://x.com/JayinKyiv/status/1736515048955068817
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velik_m
12-18-2023, 12:19 AM
There's only one way to find out how a potential deal under the current circumstances would workout -- that's by starting the negotiations and working towards one. Why are you so afraid to even try?
Do you still actually believe Ukraine is taking back Crimea by force? :lol
What is there to negotiate, though? The goal of the Russian "special military operation" is "demilitarization and denazification" of Ukraine ("nazi" in Russian is someone, who is against Russia).
https://twitter.com/adnashmyash/status/1735998207589527679
https://twitter.com/adnashmyash/status/1735998209376354810
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12-18-2023, 12:47 AM
What is there to negotiate, though? The goal of the Russian "special military operation" is "demilitarization and denazification" of Ukraine ("nazi" in Russian is someone, who is against Russia).
https://twitter.com/adnashmyash/status/1735998207589527679
https://twitter.com/adnashmyash/status/1735998209376354810
Nothing. Z stated it clearly nigh on 2 years ago. There will be no negotiation. Russia must walk away & off from 100% of Ukraine land. That's it & that's all.
And I'm holding Z and thus Biden to that Z command. Anything less and I win.
That's it & that's all.
velik_m
12-18-2023, 02:00 AM
https://twitter.com/yasminalombaert/status/1736410138402074751
Russia is a failed state.
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1736355560847495285
velik_m
12-18-2023, 04:03 AM
https://twitter.com/hissgoescobra/status/1736407267136647454
velik_m
12-18-2023, 04:05 AM
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1736654195577471241
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12-18-2023, 09:53 AM
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pgardn
12-18-2023, 12:37 PM
Houthis now attacking shipping in the Red Sea with regularity.
Iran sees the opportunity as Russia is backing the disarray.
The red team claims they are worried about debt and inflation.
Just wait and see what happens if the US does not defend international shipping.
This is the main reason imo of why we have a military. We must be able to trade with the world. We are not our own economy. People just do not get this imo.
We must be able to project power for trade and economic reasons. The impact of this is much more likely to ruin our economy than actually being attacked directly in a conventional manner on our own soil (unless you count Trumpers attack on all institutions they dont like)
Russia, Iran, NK, have refused to be a part of world wide conformity to moving goods. We pay the price. And it will be much worse economically than money sent to Ukraine.
So why does the US have to be the police of international trade? Because WE benefit the MOST from this type of trade. We cannot make everything and buy everything US exclusively and maintain our current "lifestyle". The red team can try to fool themselves all they want but this is just the truth as it exists right now. The far left needs to understand this as well.
And yes I am well aware of how unfair certain parts of the economy are very unfair to the lower socioeconomic groups. We can change this as well if the red team complies with the appropriate laws.
ElNono
12-18-2023, 12:53 PM
https://twitter.com/hissgoescobra/status/1736407267136647454
Wow, this was when the GOP was still a winning party.
C’est la vie
pgardn
12-18-2023, 12:53 PM
Damn
Lefty even spamming causing excessive scrolling.
Jez.
Never thought this would be an ignore.
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12-18-2023, 01:13 PM
Houthis now attacking shipping in the Red Sea with regularity.
Iran sees the opportunity as Russia is backing the disarray.
The red team claims they are worried about debt and inflation.
Just wait and see what happens if the US does not international shipping.
This is the main reason imo of why we have a military. We must be able to trade with the world. We are not our own economy. People just do not get this imo.
We must be able to project power for trade and economic reasons. The impact of this is much more likely to ruin our economy than actually being attacked directly in a conventional manner on our own soil (unless you count Trumpers attack on all institutions they dont like)
Russia, Iran, NK, have refused to be a part of world wide conformity to moving goods. We pay the price. And it will be much worse economically than money sent to Ukraine.
So why does the US have to be the police of international trade? Because WE benefit the MOST from this type of trade. We cannot make everything and buy everything US exclusively and maintain our current "lifestyle". The red team can try to fool themselves all they want but this is just the truth as it exists right now. The far left needs to understand this as well.
And yes I am well aware of how unfair certain parts of the economy are very unfair to the lower socioeconomic groups. We can change this as well if the red team complies with the appropriate laws.
Please. We're pleased as punch with Russia attacking Ukr. There's no MIC when Putin is in the WH singing pop songs and dancing with wide-ass Hillary. There is no MIC when Hussein is doing underhanded deals with Putin caught on the open mic.
MIC is in full swing, dad, and dad, it do not get better than this and you know it.
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12-18-2023, 01:13 PM
Damn
Lefty even spamming causing excessive scrolling.
Jez.
Never thought this would be an ignore.
I'm pleased as the aforementioned punch.
Let us proceed...
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12-18-2023, 01:15 PM
Wow, this was when the GOP was still a winning party.
C’est la vie
How that cancer ever found a spot in that cement headed brain of McCain's to take root is the question.
Ef-man
12-18-2023, 01:27 PM
Wow, this was when the GOP was still a winning party.
C’est la vie
Yup, it was a pre-incel period of time and cucks were happy being stuck in cuckshed.
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12-18-2023, 01:41 PM
Yup, it was a pre-incel period of time and cucks were happy being stuck in cuckshed.
Please. We're pleased as punch with Russia attacking Ukr. There's no MIC when Putin is in the WH singing pop songs and dancing with wide-ass Hillary. There is no MIC when Hussein is doing underhanded deals with Putin caught on the open mic.
MIC is in full swing, dad, and dad, it do not get better than this and you know it.
pgardn
12-18-2023, 03:45 PM
Houthis now attacking shipping in the Red Sea with regularity.
Iran sees the opportunity as Russia is backing the disarray.
The red team claims they are worried about debt and inflation.
Just wait and see what happens if the US does not defend international shipping.
This is the main reason imo of why we have a military. We must be able to trade with the world. We are not our own economy. People just do not get this imo.
We must be able to project power for trade and economic reasons. The impact of this is much more likely to ruin our economy than actually being attacked directly in a conventional manner on our own soil (unless you count Trumpers attack on all institutions they dont like)
Russia, Iran, NK, have refused to be a part of world wide conformity to moving goods. We pay the price. And it will be much worse economically than money sent to Ukraine.
So why does the US have to be the police of international trade? Because WE benefit the MOST from this type of trade. We cannot make everything and buy everything US exclusively and maintain our current "lifestyle". The red team can try to fool themselves all they want but this is just the truth as it exists right now. The far left needs to understand this as well.
And yes I am well aware of how unfair certain parts of the economy are very unfair to the lower socioeconomic groups. We can change this as well if the red team complies with the appropriate laws.
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12-18-2023, 03:47 PM
^^^^^^^^^
Please. We're pleased as punch with Russia attacking Ukr. There's no MIC when Putin is in the WH singing pop songs and dancing with wide-ass Hillary. There is no MIC when Hussein is doing underhanded deals with Putin caught on the open mic.
MIC is in full swing, dad, and dad, it do not get better than this and you know it.
Ef-man
12-18-2023, 04:24 PM
On par with US and China :lol
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1736858010432205066
Ef-man
12-18-2023, 04:27 PM
Warming russians out in cold
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1736802735461429562
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pgardn
12-19-2023, 12:25 AM
End of the day they are fellow Europeans. Who knows how politics might change. Both sides accomplished their goals. But they need to improve if they wanna be on our team.
LOL!
Fellow Europeans!
Our team?
pgardn
12-19-2023, 12:27 AM
“Why would he”…. Yes, as long as others are paying the bills then why not refuse to negotiate?
As some point, I wouldn’t put it past UKR to start asking for troops from NATO countries as well. “Whatever it takes” Indeed.
This is completely daft.
Like Putin really wants to negotiate?
You have got to be kidding?
Ef-man
12-19-2023, 12:29 AM
Xi screwing putler :lol
https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1736749280101106100
Ef-man
12-19-2023, 12:32 AM
Russian farms must suck terribly if you have to import eggs from Iran :lol
https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1736742423173247102
pgardn
12-19-2023, 12:33 AM
Houthis now attacking shipping in the Red Sea with regularity.
Iran sees the opportunity as Russia is backing the disarray.
The red team claims they are worried about debt and inflation.
Just wait and see what happens if the US does not defend international shipping.
This is the main reason imo of why we have a military. We must be able to trade with the world. We are not our own economy. People just do not get this imo.
We must be able to project power for trade and economic reasons. The impact of this is much more likely to ruin our economy than actually being attacked directly in a conventional manner on our own soil (unless you count Trumpers attack on all institutions they dont like)
Russia, Iran, NK, have refused to be a part of world wide conformity to moving goods. We pay the price. And it will be much worse economically than money sent to Ukraine.
So why does the US have to be the police of international trade? Because WE benefit the MOST from this type of trade. We cannot make everything and buy everything US exclusively and maintain our current "lifestyle". The red team can try to fool themselves all they want but this is just the truth as it exists right now. The far left needs to understand this as well.
And yes I am well aware of how unfair certain parts of the economy are very unfair to the lower socioeconomic groups. We can change this as well if the red team complies with the appropriate laws.
Big picture.
Dont ever forget OUR standard and OUR money thru OUR trade.
There is a shitload of short term thinking involved in Ukraine.
It’s utter stupidity while Putin is alive and ruining Russia. He will continue to destroy his people and others. He has basically stated this already but people love to believe in lies for a peace that will not take place unless Putin folds. Chances of this? Zero.
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12-19-2023, 01:23 AM
This is completely daft.
Like Putin really wants to negotiate?
You have got to be kidding?
He'd better not, by God. Z swore on the Bible/Nazi Edition that he won't negotiate. Same with Putin, Regular Edition of Bible.
Therefore,,,
Let us proceed...
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12-19-2023, 01:24 AM
Big picture.
Dont ever forget OUR standard and OUR money thru OUR trade.
There is a shitload of short term thinking involved in Ukraine.
It’s utter stupidity while Putin is alive and ruining Russia. He will continue to destroy his people and others. He has basically stated this already but people love to believe in lies for a peace that will not take place unless Putin folds. Chances of this? Zero.
He'd better not, by God. Z swore on the Bible/Nazi Edition that he won't negotiate. Same with Putin, Regular Edition of Bible.
Therefore,,,
Let us proceed...
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12-19-2023, 01:26 AM
Russian farms must suck terribly if you have to import eggs from Iran :lol
https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1736742423173247102
Christ-a-mighty, Effy, we've had surging prices here in the States ever since since Biden got in there, that's nigh on 2 years.
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Ef-man
12-19-2023, 02:32 AM
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1736654195577471241
Last I recall, Yam Tits said Orban was president of Turkey. :lol
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pgardn
12-19-2023, 08:17 AM
Houthis now attacking shipping in the Red Sea with regularity.
Iran sees the opportunity as Russia is backing the disarray.
The red team claims they are worried about debt and inflation.
Just wait and see what happens if the US does not defend international shipping.
This is the main reason imo of why we have a military. We must be able to trade with the world. We are not our own economy. People just do not get this imo.
We must be able to project power for trade and economic reasons. The impact of this is much more likely to ruin our economy than actually being attacked directly in a conventional manner on our own soil (unless you count Trumpers attack on all institutions they dont like)
Russia, Iran, NK, have refused to be a part of world wide conformity to moving goods. We pay the price. And it will be much worse economically than money sent to Ukraine.
So why does the US have to be the police of international trade? Because WE benefit the MOST from this type of trade. We cannot make everything and buy everything US exclusively and maintain our current "lifestyle". The red team can try to fool themselves all they want but this is just the truth as it exists right now. The far left needs to understand this as well.
And yes I am well aware of how unfair certain parts of the economy are very unfair to the lower socioeconomic groups. We can change this as well if the red team complies with the appropriate laws.
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Ef-man
12-19-2023, 04:14 PM
Putler ready to bend the knee
Today he said that russia would be prepared to talk to Ukraine, the United States and Europe about the future of Ukraine. :lol
koriwhat
12-19-2023, 04:19 PM
Still... Fuck Ukraine!
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Ef-man
12-19-2023, 07:11 PM
Boom
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1737242293160358157
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12-19-2023, 07:18 PM
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Ef-man
12-19-2023, 07:21 PM
Boom
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1736781038175563804
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When did I say that?
Link, please.
Are you really saying that you don't believe that?
So what exactly is the plan then if Ukraine can't push Russia out by force but also should even try to negotiate with Russia?
And everyone but you already knows how reliable Putin is.
The NATO Secretary General has said repeatedly (almost like a broken record) that Western support is essentially to strengthen Ukraine's hand at the negotiating table with Russia. That's the same Russia led by Vladimir Putin.
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12-19-2023, 08:37 PM
Are you really saying that you don't believe that?
So what exactly is the plan then if Ukraine can't push Russia out by force but also should even try to negotiate with Russia?
The NATO Secretary General has said repeatedly (almost like a broken record) that Western support is essentially to strength Ukraine's hand at the negotiating table with Russia. That's the same Russia led by Vladimir Putin.
...and the same Putin who danced with Hillary in the WH and listened to Hussein promise him a sweetheart deal after the election. But they don't need THAT Putin now. They need the Putin they got now for the MIC. He's exactly what the doctor ordered.
Putler ready to bend the knee
Today he said that russia would be prepared to talk to Ukraine, the United States and Europe about the future of Ukraine. :lol
He's been saying that for the past year at least.
Ef-man
12-19-2023, 10:15 PM
He's been saying that for the past year at least.
He also said that Kherson was russia forever, yet here we are with Kherson in Ukranian hands.
C'est la vie
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12-19-2023, 10:17 PM
He also said that Kherson was russia forever, yet here we are with Kherson in Ukranian hands.
C'est la vie
That ain't what the map shows, Effy.
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pgardn
12-19-2023, 11:39 PM
He's been saying that for the past year at least.
And it’s bullshit to believe he wants to negotiate. So the NATO can spout anything they want. They know this. They will play the long game as well.
Putin would rather kill Russian soldiers, and basically any Ukrainian. The absolute only way Putin negotiates is if he feels a noose around his neck. The man is old, frozen in hate and a disgusting sense of glory. (Much like an old poster that is largely ignored)
But he will kidnap the kids, transfer them to Russia, and “re-educate” them.
Does anyone remember who invaded?
And who is the democratically elected leader is in this mess. It all matters not apparently…
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12-19-2023, 11:55 PM
And it’s bullshit to believe he wants to negotiate. So the NATO can spout anything they want. They know this. They will play the long game as well.
Putin would rather kill Russian soldiers, and basically any Ukrainian. The absolute only way Putin negotiates is if he feels a noose around his neck. The man is old, frozen in hate and a disgusting sense of glory. (Much like an old poster that is largely ignored)
But he will kidnap the kids, transfer them to Russia, and “re-educate” them.
Does anyone remember who invaded?
And who is the democratically elected leader is in this mess. It all matters not apparently…
...nope, nary a bit. Just like when Trump made President. Stings, don't it, peeg?
Let us proceed...
ChumpDumper
12-19-2023, 11:59 PM
Are you really saying that you don't believe that?
Just say you lied about my saying that. Please don't make it worse for yourself.
The NATO Secretary General has said repeatedly (almost like a broken record) that Western support is essentially to strengthen Ukraine's hand at the negotiating table with Russia. That's the same Russia led by Vladimir Putin.
I'm going ask you for a quote since you lied about what I said.
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Ef-man
12-20-2023, 12:24 AM
PRETTY GOOD SHOOTING
https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1736737775947534422
Ef-man
12-20-2023, 12:26 AM
C'est la vie
https://x.com/ukraine_map/status/1736802314173002229
Just say you lied about my saying that. Please don't make it worse for yourself.
I said you "believe" it, not that you wrote it verbatim. Everything you have written about refusing to negotiate makes me believe that you think this.
But your position is so incoherent that I'd be happy to fully retract it if you say explicitly that you don't believe Ukraine can take back Crimea by force.
I'm going ask you for a quote since you lied about what I said.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_221473.htm
"I would like to have a lasting just negotiated solution. But the only way to get there is to strengthen the Ukrainians on the battlefield, the stronger the position of Ukrainians is on the battlefield, the stronger negotiating hand will be at the negotiating table." - Jens Stoltenberg, NATO Secretary General
ChumpDumper
12-20-2023, 12:31 AM
I said you "believe" it, not that you wrote it verbatim. Everything you have written about refusing to negotiate makes me believe that you think this.
But your position is so incoherent that I'd be happy to fully retract it if you say explicitly that you don't believe Ukraine can take back Crimea by force.
So you don't actually know my position after saying everything I say makes you believe what I think enough to explicitly state it for me.
That's incoherent of you. Get your shit together.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_221473.htm
Thanks. Now quit lying about me.
FrostKing
12-20-2023, 12:36 AM
Zelenskyy is asking for 150K troops?
:lol How do we get Zelenskyy out of this equation? I'm determined this guy will not ceasefire under almost any circumstances. I get it rebuilding sucks. Flying around the World meeting people for dinner is better.
So you don't actually know my position after saying everything I say makes you believe what I think enough to explicitly state it for me.
That's incoherent of you. Get your shit together.
Just say it then...
I'd be happy to fully retract it if you say explicitly that you don't believe Ukraine can take back Crimea by force.
Ef-man
12-20-2023, 12:41 AM
https://x.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1736801060097077337
Zelenskyy is asking for 150K troops?
:lol How do we get Zelenskyy out of this equation? I'm determined this guy will not ceasefire under almost any circumstances. I get it rebuilding sucks. Flying around the World meeting people for dinner is better.
Listen to his latest press conference. It's a clown show. He's practically changed the meaning of "victory" from battlefield success to how much money he gets from US/EU. He now calls this "victory".
Ef-man
12-20-2023, 12:42 AM
Russian farms must suck terribly if you have to import eggs from Iran :lol
https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1736742423173247102
https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1737022476046008624
ChumpDumper
12-20-2023, 12:42 AM
Just say it then...
I'd be happy to fully retract it if you say explicitly that you don't believe Ukraine can take back Crimea by force.
You need to happily you admit you lied.
Ef-man
12-20-2023, 12:42 AM
https://x.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1737016599368839353
FrostKing
12-20-2023, 12:43 AM
Ukraine is out of Men. It's over. Peace, rebuild and reproduce. WTF is gonna be left to inhabit this land if we continue.
ChumpDumper
12-20-2023, 12:43 AM
Zelenskyy is asking for 150K troops?
:lol How do we get Zelenskyy out of this equation? I'm determined this guy will not ceasefire under almost any circumstances. I get it rebuilding sucks. Flying around the World meeting people for dinner is better.How quickly would you surrender to Putin?
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ChumpDumper
12-20-2023, 12:44 AM
Ukraine is out of Men.
Post your numbers or fold.
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12-20-2023, 12:45 AM
Zelenskyy is asking for 150K troops?
:lol How do we get Zelenskyy out of this equation? I'm determined this guy will not ceasefire under almost any circumstances. I get it rebuilding sucks. Flying around the World meeting people for dinner is better.
...Frosty, droppin' a mic.
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12-20-2023, 12:45 AM
Ukraine is out of Men. It's over. Peace, rebuild and reproduce. WTF is gonna be left to inhabit this land if we continue.
Oh, and wouldn't Biden like to send 'em some American men. tee, hee.
FrostKing
12-20-2023, 12:46 AM
Listen to his latest press conference. It's a clown show. He's practically changed the meaning of "victory" from battlefield success to how much money he gets from US/EU. He now calls this "victory".
We were tricked. Atleast we snapped out of it now. This guy will drive Ukraine to ashes. Is he even Slavic, never fought the Russians.
You need to happily you admit you lied.
I said you believe it. It's only wrong if you don't believe it. Say you don't believe Ukraine can take back Crimea by force.
Why can't you do that?
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12-20-2023, 12:48 AM
Listen to his latest press conference. It's a clown show. He's practically changed the meaning of "victory" from battlefield success to how much money he gets from US/EU. He now calls this "victory".
They never saw that much American money, cash...it's mesmerizing. Nothing better than a boodle, wherever it dwells.
FrostKing
12-20-2023, 12:49 AM
How quickly would you surrender to Putin?
Only way to drive the Russians out is to step on their land and force retreat. No one is willing to do that. It's just a standstill. Seek peace now, our position won't improve unless Putin fell severely ill tomorrow
We have new issues to deal with back at home. Let them go back to their corner and celebrate :lol
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12-20-2023, 12:49 AM
Ukraine is out of Men. It's over. Peace, rebuild and reproduce. WTF is gonna be left to inhabit this land if we continue.
...Biden's pride in front of Trump. He doesn't want Trump to see him like that.
tee, hee.
We were tricked. Atleast we snapped out of it now. This guy will drive Ukraine to ashes. Is he even Slavic, never fought the Russians.
I was never tricked. Some here were tricked badly.
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12-20-2023, 12:51 AM
We were tricked. Atleast we snapped out of it now. This guy will drive Ukraine to ashes. Is he even Slavic, never fought the Russians.
No, but he does a heckuva stand up routine. SNL is waitin' on him, win or lose.
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12-20-2023, 12:51 AM
I was never tricked. Some here were tricked badly.
7...you bullshitter, you. You mashed that panic button with all your might months ago.
ChumpDumper
12-20-2023, 12:52 AM
I said you believe it. It's only wrong if you don't believe it. Say you don't believe Ukraine can take back Crimea by force.
Why can't you do that?I don't think they will.
Happily admit you were stunningly and completely wrong in making your stupid claim.
FrostKing
12-20-2023, 12:52 AM
I was never tricked. Some here were tricked badly.
West responded admirably. We out classed their military. It's over now. Russia can do this song & dance for decades.
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12-20-2023, 12:54 AM
West responded admirably. We out classed their military. It's over now. Russia can do this song & dance for decades.
You sent money which Ukr skimmed repeatedly and you paid their bills. That's it and that's all.
ChumpDumper
12-20-2023, 12:55 AM
Only way to drive the Russians out is to step on their land and force retreat. No one is willing to do that. It's just a standstill. Seek peace now, our position won't improve unless Putin fell severely ill tomorrow.
We have new issues to deal with back at home. Let them go back to their corner and celebrate :lolJesus, you just surrendered to me.:lol
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12-20-2023, 12:55 AM
Zelenskyy is asking for 150K troops?
:lol How do we get Zelenskyy out of this equation? I'm determined this guy will not ceasefire under almost any circumstances. I get it rebuilding sucks. Flying around the World meeting people for dinner is better.
Quote of the Week!
Frosty got it, nailed it perfect.
Frosty
Ef-man
12-20-2023, 12:56 AM
Ukraine is out of Men. It's over. Peace, rebuild and reproduce. WTF is gonna be left to inhabit this land if we continue.
Ah yes, just like the "miles long convoys" outside of Kyiv early in the war that had the MAGAs in ecstasy, it is over! :lmao
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I don't think they will.
Happily admit you were stunningly and completely wrong in making your stupid claim.
I retract it 100%. :toast
ChumpDumper
12-20-2023, 12:58 AM
I retract it 100%. :toast:lmao you're as wrong as hater
FrostKing
12-20-2023, 12:59 AM
Jesus, you just surrendered to me.:lol
Their people are refugees going on 3 years. Time to return home and rebuild. We saved Ukraine, so let's go enjoy it.
Doubt Zelenskyy will even live in Ukraine.
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ChumpDumper
12-20-2023, 01:00 AM
Their people are refugees going on 3 years. Time to return home and rebuild. We saved Ukraine, so let's go enjoy it.
Doubt Zelenskyy will even live in Ukraine.You can't even answer a simple question.
Why should anyone respect anything you say?
FrostKing
12-20-2023, 01:01 AM
You can't even answer a simple question.
Why should anyone respect anything you say?
What's your precious question honey.
ChumpDumper
12-20-2023, 01:03 AM
What's your precious question honey.Scroll up, dumbass.
Why are you so helpless?
West responded admirably. We out classed their military. It's over now. Russia can do this song & dance for decades.
It's just a question of how long this is going to get dragged out now.
Doesn't it speak volumes that there is so much pushback to mass mobilization in Ukraine?
Ef-man
12-20-2023, 01:16 AM
Lest we forget: Even GOP leaders believed Yam Tits was controlled by putler.
"There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump. Swear to God."
https://x.com/davidfrum/status/1736744314368032932
ChumpDumper
12-20-2023, 01:18 AM
It's just a question of how long this is going to get dragged out now.
Doesn't it speak volumes that there is so much pushback to mass mobilization in Ukraine?
Pushback from whom?
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FrostKing
12-20-2023, 01:36 AM
It's just a question of how long this is going to get dragged out now.
Doesn't it speak volumes that there is so much pushback to mass mobilization in Ukraine?
Fortunately I'm sure Putin has also lost interest and is ready to refocus on elsewhere.
Russia can wedge influence in Gaza once they are freed up. Initiative for Biden Administration to keep them tied up?
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12-20-2023, 01:50 AM
Fortunately I'm sure Putin has also lost interest and is ready to refocus on elsewhere.
Russia can wedge influence in Gaza once they are freed up. Initiative for Biden Administration to keep them tied up?
Putin, in full knowledge of what was to happen and what is happening has no intentions of walking away now---even with the entire 20%. Uh, uh. And as long as Z is getting American cash (and your aforementioned world wide State dinner parties) he ain't quittin' either.
Let us proceed...
FrostKing
12-20-2023, 01:50 AM
Scroll up, dumbass.
Why are you so helpless?
Don't be a brat. Just ask again.
hater
12-20-2023, 06:24 AM
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lol
https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1737414478159831247
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12-20-2023, 06:58 AM
:lol
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pgardn
12-20-2023, 08:35 AM
Ukraine is out of Men. It's over. Peace, rebuild and reproduce. WTF is gonna be left to inhabit this land if we continue.
"WE"
You mean Russia. And they will not negotiate. Until they have what Putin wants. They clearly do not have that yet. Look at his recent language. It mimics what he has said in the past.
Putin's claim that Russia can be the only true guarantor of Ukraine's sovereignty is not a new narrative. In a 2021 essay entitled "On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians," Putin similarly claimed that "true sovereignty of Ukraine is possible precisely in partnership with Russia."[3] In the same essay, Putin also utilized a pseudo-historical framework of Ukraine’s and Russia's relationship that essentially defines the lands of modern, sovereign Ukraine as either part of Malorossiya (Little Russia), Novorossiya (New Russia), or fragments of other historical empires.[4] This essay dismissed Ukraine's historical claim to its own sociocultural development, historical sovereignty, and territorial integrity, which the Russian Federation formally recognized and, indeed, guaranteed, in 1994.[5] During the December 19 Collegium Address, Putin further engaged with this pseudo-historical framing to suggest that western Ukraine is also not truly Ukrainian and claimed that Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin "gave it away" to Ukraine from pieces of Poland, Romania, and Hungary following the Second World War.[6] Putin baselessly claimed that people living in western Ukraine want to return to their "historical homeland," suggesting that western Ukraine could feasibly return to 17th-century conceptions of state borders and become parts of Poland, Romania, or Hungary. This statement suggests that Putin is selectively weaponizing facets of Eastern and Central European history as they suit his ideological line to further rhetorically strip Ukraine of its internationally recognized sovereignty.
Only Russia is the true guarantor of Ukraine's sovereignty.
So I am totally not clear how you guys think Russia plans to stop what they started.
The only thing Russia gives to Ukraine is a foggy West Ukraine without mentioning Kiev; Kiev which MUST have a Russian puppet at the helm.
FuzzyLumpkins
12-20-2023, 11:07 AM
Chump claiming victory over a WC persona because he won't answer his question. Only on SpursTalk.
ChumpDumper
12-20-2023, 11:09 AM
Chump claiming victory over a WC persona because he won't answer his question. Only on SpursTalk.
I won nothing. I said he surrendered like he would surrender to Russia. He's terrified or otherwise unable to review posts from a few minutes back so my new question was why should anyone respect anything he says. It's nothing new here.
If this is going to be another flare up of your grudge, that too will not be new.
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12-20-2023, 12:31 PM
"WE"
You mean Russia. And they will not negotiate. Until they have what Putin wants. They clearly do not have that yet. Look at his recent language. It mimics what he has said in the past.
Putin's claim that Russia can be the only true guarantor of Ukraine's sovereignty is not a new narrative. In a 2021 essay entitled "On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians," Putin similarly claimed that "true sovereignty of Ukraine is possible precisely in partnership with Russia."[3] In the same essay, Putin also utilized a pseudo-historical framework of Ukraine’s and Russia's relationship that essentially defines the lands of modern, sovereign Ukraine as either part of Malorossiya (Little Russia), Novorossiya (New Russia), or fragments of other historical empires.[4] This essay dismissed Ukraine's historical claim to its own sociocultural development, historical sovereignty, and territorial integrity, which the Russian Federation formally recognized and, indeed, guaranteed, in 1994.[5] During the December 19 Collegium Address, Putin further engaged with this pseudo-historical framing to suggest that western Ukraine is also not truly Ukrainian and claimed that Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin "gave it away" to Ukraine from pieces of Poland, Romania, and Hungary following the Second World War.[6] Putin baselessly claimed that people living in western Ukraine want to return to their "historical homeland," suggesting that western Ukraine could feasibly return to 17th-century conceptions of state borders and become parts of Poland, Romania, or Hungary. This statement suggests that Putin is selectively weaponizing facets of Eastern and Central European history as they suit his ideological line to further rhetorically strip Ukraine of its internationally recognized sovereignty.
Only Russia is the true guarantor of Ukraine's sovereignty.
So I am totally not clear how you guys think Russia plans to stop what they started.
The only thing Russia gives to Ukraine is a foggy West Ukraine without mentioning Kiev; Kiev which MUST have a Russian puppet at the helm.
No, I meant "WE"---I want Biden driven before the fore at Putin's proxy. Then the lamentation of the women.
Oh, yeah, you betcha, dad.
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12-20-2023, 12:32 PM
Chump claiming victory over a WC persona because he won't answer his question. Only on SpursTalk.
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FuzzyLumpkins
12-20-2023, 12:46 PM
I won nothing. I said he surrendered like he would surrender to Russia. He's terrified or otherwise unable to review posts from a few minutes back so my new question was why should anyone respect anything he says. It's nothing new here.
If this is going to be another flare up of your grudge, that too will not be new.
You're arguing with your passive aggressive questions and you are taking his non-answer as his surrender.
Of course that begs the question who is he surrendering to given the conflict is with you.
You were haranguing about my claiming victory. I am just letting you know I see how you were projecting.
ChumpDumper
12-20-2023, 12:49 PM
You're arguing with your passive aggressive questions and you are taking his non-answer as his surrender.There was nothing passive aggressive about the direct questions.
Of course that begs the question who is he surrendering to given the conflict is with you.:lol the subject was surrender, genius. You're the joke police now.
You were haranguing about my claiming victory. I am just letting you know I see how you were projecting.Your grudge is flaring up again. As I said, nothing new. I await your next post claiming you don't hold grudges or some other stupid shit.
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FuzzyLumpkins
12-20-2023, 12:56 PM
There was nothing passive aggressive about the direct questions.
:lol the subject was surrender, genius. You're the joke police now.
Your grudge is flaring up again. As I said, nothing new. I await your next post claiming you don't hold grudges or some other stupid shit.
Jesus, you just surrendered to me.:lol
Dance, Chump, dance. You were talking about his surrender to you.
I guess the reason you are trying to gaslighting me is because you realize what I am talking about. You sure are a peach.
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12-20-2023, 12:58 PM
You're arguing with your passive aggressive questions and you are taking his non-answer as his surrender.
Of course that begs the question who is he surrendering to given the conflict is with you.
You were haranguing about my claiming victory. I am just letting you know I see how you were projecting.
Lumps has turned into a clock cleaner extraordinaire. Dumps has the cleanest clock on the site.
Lumps
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12-20-2023, 12:58 PM
Dance, Chump, dance. You were talking about his surrender to you.
I guess you are trying to gaslighting me is because you realize what I am talking about. You sure are a peach.
Bust him up, Lumps. Make his ass a hump on his back.
tee, hee.
ChumpDumper
12-20-2023, 01:08 PM
Dance, Chump, dance. You were talking about his surrender to you.Yes. Now quote the question I asked before.
If you dare.
I guess the reason you are trying to gaslighting me is because you realize what I am talking about. You sure are a peach.I want you to prove you know what you are talking about. Post the initial question.
Or dance, fuzzy peach, dance.
velik_m
12-20-2023, 01:19 PM
"Mouse fever" affects Russian troops in Kupyansk sector — Ukrainian intelligence
...
It noted that dissatisfaction is growing in the units of the Russian occupying army due to inadequate provision of winter clothing and a complete lack of medical care.
Because of this, Russian troops are suffering from "mouse fever" in the Kupyansk direction. The disease is viral in nature and is transmitted to humans from rodents - through direct contact with the pathogen, inhalation of mouse feces dust or contamination of food for human consumption.
Symptoms of “mouse fever” include severe headache, fever up to 40 degrees, rashes and redness, low blood pressure, hemorrhages in the eyes, nausea, and vomiting several times a day.
Since the disease affects the kidneys, a person infected experiences intense pain in the lower back and has serious difficulty urinating.
The Defence Intelligence emphasizes that complaints about the fever from Russian army personnel involved in the war against Ukraine were ignored by the command, which regarded them as another manifestation of evasion from participation in hostilities. In addition, at the first stage of its course, "mouse fever" resembles a common flu.
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https://global.espreso.tv/outbreak-of-mouse-fever-recorded-among-russian-troops-in-kupyansk-direction-ukrainian-intelligence
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12-20-2023, 01:21 PM
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Ef-man
12-20-2023, 01:44 PM
https://global.espreso.tv/outbreak-of-mouse-fever-recorded-among-russian-troops-in-kupyansk-direction-ukrainian-intelligence
Damn, nothing feels worse than being ill while outside in freezing weather.
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12-20-2023, 02:16 PM
Damn, nothing feels worse than being ill while outside in freezing weather.
Then just thank Christ it's only cold on Russia's side of the trenches, eh, buddy?
hater
12-20-2023, 02:29 PM
https://x.com/KyivIndependent/status/1737518804970754492
Massive meltdown incoming
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12-20-2023, 02:33 PM
https://x.com/KyivIndependent/status/1737518804970754492
Massive meltdown incoming
The big wigs in the suits are gonna divvy up and grab as much of that American cash as they can get a holt of, put it in a money belt and head for Ukraine X Airport. And they'll fly into Kennedy Airport X and spend the dough here, so, we'll at least get a portion back thru the Disneylands in FL. & CA..
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12-20-2023, 02:34 PM
https://x.com/KyivIndependent/status/1737518804970754492
Massive meltdown incoming
CNN too has taken the "Ukraine War" off their masthead.
hater
12-20-2023, 03:22 PM
CNN too has taken the "Ukraine War" off their masthead.
:lmao :lmao :lol
koriwhat
12-20-2023, 03:49 PM
Fuck Ukraine!
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12-20-2023, 04:11 PM
Fuck Ukraine!
GD right, kori!!!
hater
12-20-2023, 04:19 PM
Fuck Ukraine!
They are :lmao
velik_m
12-20-2023, 05:04 PM
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1737541097922998465
velik_m
12-20-2023, 05:14 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffSonnenfeld/status/1737585810977788294
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1737463922372887018
Ef-man
12-20-2023, 06:25 PM
https://x.com/Rory_Johnston/status/1735718850950283725
Ef-man
12-20-2023, 06:51 PM
https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1737584959714476409
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12-21-2023, 12:18 AM
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Ef-man
12-21-2023, 12:59 PM
Damn
https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1737859579248341256
Ef-man
12-21-2023, 01:01 PM
Go Joe Go
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1737801045328159036
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12-21-2023, 01:16 PM
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Winehole23
12-21-2023, 01:32 PM
some real fake news (https://x.com/Shayan86/status/1737631587590689226?s=20)
1737622958418297308
1737631587590689226
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12-21-2023, 01:40 PM
some real fake news (https://x.com/Shayan86/status/1737631587590689226?s=20)
1737622958418297308
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All your shit about Putin & Russia is 100% accurate.
All our shit about Z and Ukraine is 100% lies.
Understood.
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12-21-2023, 01:40 PM
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Ef-man
12-21-2023, 02:31 PM
some real fake news (https://x.com/Shayan86/status/1737631587590689226?s=20)
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News tailored for the poorly educated rubes, par.
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12-21-2023, 03:28 PM
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12-21-2023, 03:33 PM
News tailored for the poorly educated rubes, par.
All your shit about Putin & Russia is 100% accurate.
All our shit about Z and Ukraine is 100% lies.
Understood.
koriwhat
12-21-2023, 03:41 PM
Fuck Ukraine!
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12-21-2023, 03:47 PM
Fuck Ukraine!
& fuck 'em hard!!!
Ef-man
12-21-2023, 06:01 PM
Jaga Jaga
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1737889847908434372
Ef-man
12-21-2023, 06:05 PM
You see your russian buddy's APC blown up so do you retreat or stop?
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1737866985063526477
Correct answer is retreat right away, anything else gets you killed in Ukraine.
Ef-man
12-21-2023, 06:46 PM
Rat bite fever
https://x.com/TrentTelenko/status/1737578064626737249
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Ef-man
12-22-2023, 12:22 AM
Badaboom motherfucker!!!!
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1737417790338773458
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12-22-2023, 12:37 AM
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12-22-2023, 12:38 AM
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velik_m
12-22-2023, 06:17 AM
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1738107903133852002
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1737811189306970508
velik_m
12-22-2023, 06:19 AM
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12-22-2023, 06:33 AM
Fuck Ukraine!
velik_m
12-22-2023, 10:38 AM
https://twitter.com/GloOouD/status/1738172981665309082
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FuzzyLumpkins
12-22-2023, 12:39 PM
https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1738232368274584079
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boutons_deux
12-22-2023, 02:59 PM
Hyundai sold/ abandon a $1B factory in Russia for $100
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Ef-man
12-22-2023, 03:41 PM
The russian rush to get destroyed, amazing
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1738297190064255206
Ef-man
12-22-2023, 03:42 PM
Say hello to my little friends
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1738193891872887075
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Ef-man
12-23-2023, 01:44 AM
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1738285286667198826
Ef-man
12-23-2023, 01:56 AM
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FuzzyLumpkins
12-23-2023, 12:21 PM
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updates
So it looks like the air defense perimeter in the south has expanded dramatically. They have Patriot coverage in the Kherson Oblast and now have the range to take out the bombers firing cruise missiles for close air support. They basically have no CAS now.
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FuzzyLumpkins
12-23-2023, 05:01 PM
Interesting. I am reading chatter about how it is the newly deployed F-16s that shot down the 3 RUS bombers.
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12-23-2023, 05:21 PM
Interesting. I am reading chatter about how it is the newly deployed F-16s that shot down the 3 RUS bombers.
& they trained those Ukrainian Nazi Pilots like in 3 months. It takes 'em at least a year to train Americans though.
I suppose it just shows ta go ya.
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12-23-2023, 05:22 PM
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Ef-man
12-23-2023, 05:24 PM
Interesting. I am reading chatter about how it is the newly deployed F-16s that shot down the 3 RUS bombers.
Three in one day.
Good shit.
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12-23-2023, 06:36 PM
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12-23-2023, 06:37 PM
Three in one day.
Good shit.
& they trained those Ukrainian Nazi Pilots like in 3 months. It takes 'em at least a year to train Americans though.
I suppose it just shows ta go ya.
Ef-man
12-23-2023, 08:46 PM
Days :lol
https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1738623115146437095
Ef-man
12-23-2023, 08:47 PM
And so it goes
https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1738626124995813858
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12-23-2023, 09:31 PM
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Ef-man
12-23-2023, 11:59 PM
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12-24-2023, 12:23 AM
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velik_m
12-24-2023, 01:18 AM
https://twitter.com/Podolyak_M/status/1738560333105541128
velik_m
12-24-2023, 01:39 AM
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1738596577273331928
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