Ukraine

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Zelensky and Azov still winning you virtuous sjw dumbfucks? Not that I want Ukraine demolished by the dumbass Russian Army, or anyone else for that matter, but it's been hilarious seeing you pussies simp for such a corrupt state and its cross-dressing theater kid Z. :lmao

Fuck Ukraine!

Joey, even if that was all true, you would still work for your Mom. Say hey to Karen for us!

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1722352544926593161

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1722353064068235269

[Ef-man]

Death by a thousand cuts

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1722230021803450449

[velik_m]

The Russia Stability Tracker
November 2023

In February 2023—one year into Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war on Ukraine—CNAS convened a group of leading U.S. experts on Putin’s Russia and authoritarianism to assess how the war is shaping political stability inside the country. This assessment updates the key pillars of Putin’s stability identified and analyzed in the February 2023 and June 2023 reports and takes into account how events over the last four months have impacted each of these pillars.

The group’s experts did not predict Wagner Head Yevgeny Prigozhin’s failed mutiny in late June 2023. Although the group highlighted his very public and personal criticisms of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and General Valery Gerasimov and the tensions that this created within the system, the group did not anticipate the timing or brazenness of Prigozhin’s challenge. Since the failed mutiny, Russian President Putin and the Kremlin have moved to reassert control, including by likely orchestrating Prigozhin’s death in a plane crash in August. The experts generally agreed that for now, there are no immediate threats to Putin’s hold on power, although the failed mutiny creates greater uncertainty about the long-term stability of the regime. The tracker is followed by an overarching assessment of Putin’s stability by some the group’s experts.

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https://www.cnas.org/publications/reports/the-russia-stability-tracker-nov23

[ElNono]

Here's another example of a major long-term LNG deal just recently signed. Changes in Europe's energy market are increasingly structural.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-22/german-chemicals-giant-basf-inks-lng-supply-deal-with-cheniere?embedded-checkout=true

The lack of reliability is a cost that must be factored into the price of of cheap Russian energy, so it's not as cheap as it seems as Europeans have learned the hard war. Russia's oil is already on the global market, so it probably won't have much impact on US if sanctions are dropped given that US exports oil globally anyway.

I think Ukraine has lost a lot of negotiating leverage because the counter-offensive hasn't been the success Ukraine needed. Now we may have to lift those sanctions to get any kind of deal like you say. My point is that I wouldn't life the sanctions for nothing but for something -- it may have to be just in exchange for an armistice at this point.

Again, you're overlooking the fact that this works because Europe is sanctioning Russia. If it wouldn't be, then none of this is economically sound for Europe, much less in the longer term.

A land pipe is substantially more reliable than the logistics around LNG (ports, ships, stations, etc), it's not even close. This is exactly why Germany invested in NordStream and NordStream 2, pre-war.

But, besides that, the overall point was that the US is making money hand over first with this conflict. It's not that we're just loaning money with aid and getting nothing in return.

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[pgardn]

Again, you're overlooking the fact that this works because Europe is sanctioning Russia. If it wouldn't be, then none of this is economically sound for Europe, much less in the longer term.

A land pipe is substantially more reliable than the logistics around LNG (ports, ships, stations, etc), it's not even close. This is exactly why Germany invested in NordStream and NordStream 2, pre-war.

But, besides that, the overall point was that the US is making money hand over first with this conflict. It's not that we're just loaning money with aid and getting nothing in return.

And of course economic ties with democratically elected Europe is what we have always wanted.
We dont need corrupt withering Russia still making money on the cheap from Europe.
We want to trade with Europe in every way possible as long as its financially sound for us.
This is what the RHINOs get that the Trumpers and their Trump ties and steaks dont understand.

They throw their money away defending Trump in all his criminal problems in court and then gripe about the economy? Like Trump is a financially sound investment?
He cant even get a loan in the US so he lies to corrupt German banks!

I say gtfoh to the idiiots...

[DMX7]

Again, you're overlooking the fact that this works because Europe is sanctioning Russia. If it wouldn't be, then none of this is economically sound for Europe, much less in the longer term.

A land pipe is substantially more reliable than the logistics around LNG (ports, ships, stations, etc), it's not even close. This is exactly why Germany invested in NordStream and NordStream 2, pre-war.

But, besides that, the overall point was that the US is making money hand over first with this conflict. It's not that we're just loaning money with aid and getting nothing in return.


I'm not overlooking that at all. I supported the sanctions and I still support continuing them until we can leverage them in negotiations with Russia (if it's possible but let's find out). I'm just saying that the energy market in Europe is undergoing structural changes that do benefit the US in the longterm and won't totally go away even if sanctions are eventually lifted.

We really need to make a distinction between the money the government spends and whatever economic benefit that the military industrial complex and others may get. The federal government's finances are terrible and a high interest rate environment means all the money being borrowed to supply and give to Ukraine costs even more.

The amount of money being proposed is not a good investment anymore because what is it even achieving now - a prolonged stalemate? Ukraine can't take back all its territory. This is obvious. So I'm ok with providing a small amount of support to keep Ukraine fighting while it negotiates but I want to see an end to this war even if it means accepting the reality that territory is effectively lost.

[hater]

I'm not overlooking that at all. I supported the sanctions and I still support continuing them until we can leverage them in negotiations with Russia (if it's possible but let's find out). I'm just saying that the energy market in Europe is undergoing structural changes that do benefit the US in the longterm and won't totally go away even if sanctions are eventually lifted.

We really need to make a distinction between the money the government spends and whatever economic benefit that the military industrial complex and others may get. The federal government's finances are terrible and a high interest rate environment means all the money being borrowed to supply and give to Ukraine costs even more.

The amount of money being proposed is not a good investment anymore because what is it even achieving now - a prolonged stalemate? Ukraine can't take back all its territory. This is obvious. So I'm ok with providing a small amount of support to keep Ukraine fighting while it negotiates but I want to see an end to this war even if it means accepting the reality that territory is effectively lost.

Yup.

The MIC and Oil Cos are making a killing.

Not the US government nor the US citizens.

Consider this:

The US government is paying for all salaries of Ukranian officials. Plus all healthcare for Ukranian citizens.

Yet the US government wont even considering paying healthcare for Americans.

We are handing tens of billions to Ukraine on a whim yet to spend just a few billions in America for americans in healthcare, student loans, etc is a fucking years long fight :lmao

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Yup.

The MIC and Oil Cos are making a killing.

Not the US government nor the US citizens.

Consider this:

The US government is paying for all salaries of Ukranian officials. Plus all healthcare for Ukranian citizens.

Yet the US government wont even considering paying healthcare for Americans.

We are handing tens of billions to Ukraine on a whim yet to spend just a few billions in America for americans in healthcare, student loans, etc is a fucking years long fight :lmao

Amen, especially this one---"Yet the US government wont even considering paying healthcare for Americans." Yep, and that is a non starter from the get-go and with a fucking stern "NO! NEVER!"

[ElNono]

I'm not overlooking that at all. I supported the sanctions and I still support continuing them until we can leverage them in negotiations with Russia (if it's possible but let's find out). I'm just saying that the energy market in Europe is undergoing structural changes that do benefit the US in the longterm and won't totally go away even if sanctions are eventually lifted.

We really need to make a distinction between the money the government spends and whatever economic benefit that the military industrial complex and others may get. The federal government's finances are terrible and a high interest rate environment means all the money being borrowed to supply and give to Ukraine costs even more.

The amount of money being proposed is not a good investment anymore because what is it even achieving now - a prolonged stalemate? Ukraine can't take back all its territory. This is obvious. So I'm ok with providing a small amount of support to keep Ukraine fighting while it negotiates but I want to see an end to this war even if it means accepting the reality that territory is effectively lost.

You just posted that Cheniere Energy Inc, which is based in Houston, Texas, is signing contracts for the LNG. It's in your Bloomberg article. They pay taxes, right? It goes into our GDP as well? They're making money and are an American company that employs americans (who also pay taxes)?

It's not like the government has any intentions to reduce military spending either? That's as bipartisan as it gets. So this boils down to kneeling to Russia or not, simple as that.

[ElNono]

Yup.

The MIC and Oil Cos are making a killing.

Not the US government nor the US citizens.

Consider this:

The US government is paying for all salaries of Ukranian officials. Plus all healthcare for Ukranian citizens.

Yet the US government wont even considering paying healthcare for Americans.

We are handing tens of billions to Ukraine on a whim yet to spend just a few billions in America for americans in healthcare, student loans, etc is a fucking years long fight :lmao

The US is a rich country with a solid economy, #1 in the world. We're not talking about PoorRussia here :lol

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The US is a rich country with a solid economy, #1 in the world. We're not talking about PoorRussia here :lol

Please. Russia took on the Nazi's in 2 so we didn't have to do the wet work. Instead we did the little Yellow people from 30k.

[Ef-man]

The US is a rich country with a solid economy, #1 in the world. We're not talking about PoorRussia here :lol

PoorRussia at work buying back their shit. :lol

Russia is reimporting parts for tanks and missiles previously sold to India and Myanmar (Egypt as well, noted in another article), potentially to improve older weapons and equipment destined for use in Ukraine, the financial news outlet Nikkei Asia reported Monday.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/russia-buys-back-military-parts-exported (https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/05/russia-buys-back-military-parts-exported-to-asia-a81399)

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[Ef-man]

PoorRussia at work buying back their shit. :lol

Russia is reimporting parts for tanks and missiles previously sold to India and Myanmar (Egypt as well, noted in another article), potentially to improve older weapons and equipment destined for use in Ukraine, the financial news outlet Nikkei Asia reported Monday.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/russia-buys-back-military-parts-exported (https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/05/russia-buys-back-military-parts-exported-to-asia-a81399)

https://x.com/Tendar/status/1722498608342183976

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1722252940415787237

[hater]

Please. Russia took on the Nazi's in 2 so we didn't have to do the wet work. Instead we did the little Yellow people from 30k.

Micdrop.gif

[Ef-man]

There is a reason putler and Yam Tits love the poorly educated.

[hater]

Ma negro vivek dick wipping warmongers in the jaw :lmao

https://x.com/Navsteva/status/1722632412008419451

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Ma negro vivek dick wipping warmongers in the jaw :lmao

https://x.com/Navsteva/status/1722632412008419451

hater brings it home!!!

Christ-a-mighty, this may be the first time an American politico indicts FINALLY over the facts of Nazi's alive and well on the European Continent in Ukraine.

I was first to hand up that indictment upon the North American Continent. Me!

[velik_m]

Opinion: Who a ‘stalemate’ in Ukraine really benefits

...

Initially, many laughed at the Russian leadership for its failure to understand their Ukrainian opponents, its inability to see Ukrainians as they are in reality, rather than as Russian historical obsessions, propaganda and imperialistic worldviews depicted them.

Yet, many in the West apply the same self-absorbed lens to viewing Russia. They continue to presume President Vladimir Putin acts according to the same rational calculus as they do; that Russian society is as outraged by the war, or at least the sanctions and high death rate, as their societies would be; that the Kremlin elites will turn on the President when his war threatens the types of assets and interests Western elites hold dear.

But Putin isn’t worried about any of these things. He is safely ensconced at the top of his power vertical and preparing for another six-year term.
Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky speaks via video conference during the NATO Parliamentary Assembly, in Copenhagen, Denmark, on Monday, October 9.

Opinion: Zelensky’s inescapable new reality

For now, a static war suits Russia very well: it is socio-politically sustainable (there is currently no need for mobilization and the public are largely happy to accept the war). It is economically sustainable, and it is militarily sustainable due to stockpiles, increased production capacity and supplies from partners like Iran and North Korea.

There is no democratic pressure on Putin to stop the war and no structures even exist through which such pressure could emerge.

For Putin, the war is sustainable, but the peace probably is not. The war provides cover and justification for an increasingly repressive state, weakened welfare system and centralized governance. It consolidates the population against an external enemy.

On the contrary, peace would lead to awkward questions: For what did so many men die? Where are their bodies? And why did the army fail to achieve the stated aims of the ‘special military operation’? In this light, it is understandable that Russia has shown no serious interest in stopping the war.

Putin has said again and again that Ukraine doesn’t exist. We have Russian officials boasting almost weekly of kidnapping Ukrainian children and indoctrinating them to hate their own country. We have pages and pages of genocidal intent from state journalists. Russia has written an entire national security strategy outlining its position that the West is in freefall and now is the time to reclaim their rightful decisive place in a new multipolar order. It has reorganized its education, cultural and foreign policy doctrine to place society on a gradualist war footing.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/08/opinions/ukraine-russia-stalemate-nato-mcglynn/index.html

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[hater]

hater brings it home!!!

Christ-a-mighty, this may be the first time an American politico indicts FINALLY over the facts of Nazi's alive and well on the European Continent in Ukraine.

I was first to hand up that indictment upon the North American Continent. Me!

And none of the warmongers challenged him on those charges, Thread

They know not to get body slammed on national tv with facts that obliterate rheir narrative

:lmao

[hater]

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/08/opinions/ukraine-russia-stalemate-nato-mcglynn/index.html

"Crimea by Fall" :lmao

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1722513404600950931

[velik_m]

The United States has announced its intention to "kill" the Russian gas project Arctic LNG 2

Washington will seek to shut down the Russian gas project Arctic LNG 2, which is being implemented by Novatek.

Source. This was stated by Assistant Secretary of State for Energy Jeffrey Payette during a hearing in the US Senate.

It is noted that the United States wants to replace Russian gas with its own LNG.

According to Pyatt, Washington last week imposed new sanctions against the Arctic LNG 2 project and the entities involved in it:

"Our goal is to kill this project. And we're doing that by imposing sanctions, working with our G7 partners," he emphasized.

The United States is the world leader in LNG supplies. This country accounts for more than 40% of all liquefied natural gas exports, and it intends to expand this share.

"Arctic LNG 2 is Novatek's second major LNG export project after the Yamal LNG plant, launched in 2017, with a capacity of 16.5 million tons per year.

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https://mind.ua/en/news/20265300-the-united-states-has-announced-its-intention-to-kill-the-russian-gas-project-arctic-lng-2

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https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1722513404600950931

And there is a reason for that, v...a term, one single world-wide recognized term...NATO...I'm sure Putin's Intel told him..."5, 7 years absolutely tops and they'll be with NATO, and then it will require nuclear interference to take it, sir."

[hater]

https://mind.ua/en/news/20265300-the-united-states-has-announced-its-intention-to-kill-the-russian-gas-project-arctic-lng-2

"We are goin to use sanctions"


:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

"We are goin to use sanctions"


:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

As part of the sanctions, American legal entities are prohibited from conducting transactions with Arctic LNG 2, but transactions to exit the company's capital and debt obligations are allowed, provided that payment is made to a blocked account.

:tu

[hater]

As part of the sanctions, American legal entities are prohibited from conducting transactions with Arctic LNG 2, but transactions to exit the company's capital and debt obligations are allowed, provided that payment is made to a blocked account.

:tu

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

no invasion
3-5 days
no roads

:lol hater

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"We are goin to use sanctions"


:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[DMX7]

(UKR) Major General Serhiy Kryvonos on Current State of the War:

"We were fed false hopes – telling us that in a month, they'd run out of steam, and in two months, we'd be in Crimea; that they're running low on the missiles striking our cities and villages, that they have no drones, and that they lack resources. Meanwhile, the Russians steadily increased their capabilities through swift error analysis and effective countermeasures to our operations."

He now advocates Ukraine digging in and taking a defensive stance.

During the broadcast, Kryvonos said that "the enemy has achieved excellent results" through the efficient fortification of their positions. He pointed out the importance of similar measures to deter aggressors as effectively as the enemy has stalled Ukrainian forces, emphasizing the potential to save soldiers’ lives.

https://english.nv.ua/nation/ukrainian-general-urges-digging-in-rather-than-dreaming-of-quick-victory-50366848.html

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[DMX7]

You just posted that Cheniere Energy Inc, which is based in Houston, Texas, is signing contracts for the LNG. It's in your Bloomberg article. They pay taxes, right? It goes into our GDP as well? They're making money and are an American company that employs americans (who also pay taxes)?

Yeah, and those contracts they signed will stay even if the sanctions are lifted. These are part of the structural changes we're talking about. Aren't European countries collecting taxes on sales there? Regardless, this isn't a reason to prolong the war.


It's not like the government has any intentions to reduce military spending either? That's as bipartisan as it gets. So this boils down to kneeling to Russia or not, simple as that.

It would reduce military spending if we didn't have to buy new stuff to replace what we're giving to Ukraine (HIMARS, Javelins, PATRIOT missiles and on and on). It is bipartisan. The disastrous decisions we've made in the past two decades or so have been largely bipartisan (see Iraq War).

[ElNono]

(UKR) Major General Serhiy Kryvonos on Current State of the War:

He now advocates Ukraine digging in and taking a defensive stance.

https://english.nv.ua/nation/ukrainian-general-urges-digging-in-rather-than-dreaming-of-quick-victory-50366848.html

Wasn't he fired from the Ukrainian army?

https://www.unian.info/politics/kryvonos-ex-nsdc-top-official-fired-from-ukraine-army-11443948.html

[ElNono]

Yeah, and those contracts they signed will stay even if the sanctions are lifted. These are part of the structural changes we're talking about. Aren't European countries collecting taxes on sales there? Regardless, this isn't a reason to prolong the war.

Well, that's demonstrably not true, as the contracts pre-war favored the much more economical import of Russian gas.

What you're saying is that if sanctions are lifted, European companies will continue to pay more for gas because?


It would reduce military spending if we didn't have to buy new stuff to replace what we're giving to Ukraine (HIMARS, Javelins, PATRIOT missiles and on and on). It is bipartisan. The disastrous decisions we've made in the past two decades or so have been largely bipartisan (see Iraq War).

There's a grand total of zero legislation to reduce military spending. The question is if part of it goes to support Ukraine and bolster our geopolitical position or not.

[ElNono]

As part of the sanctions, American legal entities are prohibited from conducting transactions with Arctic LNG 2, but transactions to exit the company's capital and debt obligations are allowed, provided that payment is made to a blocked account.

:tu

Damn, gotheem :tu

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[clambake]

Yeah, and those contracts they signed will stay even if the sanctions are lifted. These are part of the structural changes we're talking about. Aren't European countries collecting taxes on sales there? Regardless, this isn't a reason to prolong the war.



It would reduce military spending if we didn't have to buy new stuff to replace what we're giving to Ukraine (HIMARS, Javelins, PATRIOT missiles and on and on). It is bipartisan. The disastrous decisions we've made in the past two decades or so have been largely bipartisan (see Iraq War).

Why don’t you just say it?

[DMX7]

Well, that's demonstrably not true, as the contracts pre-war favored the much more economical import of Russian gas.

What you're saying is that if sanctions are lifted, European companies will continue to pay more for gas because?


What's not true? I know the contracts favored Russia before the war. I'm in full agreement with the sanctions and that the sanctions benefited the US to some extent, but long-term agreements outlast the lifting of sanctions. They wouldn't be making these long-term agreements for 20-30 years if they didn't.

European governments will probably buy more Russian energy if sanctions are lifted but the market has changed with these long-term agreements and with Russia no longer considered a reliable supplier. I'm just making the point that it doesn't all go away if sanctions are lifted which is what you seemed to suggest.


There's a grand total of zero legislation to reduce military spending. The question is if part of it goes to support Ukraine and bolster our geopolitical position or not.

The real question is if we increase the military spending or not in order to fund donations to Ukraine. I think I misunderstood what you were trying to say about reducing spending -- I'm not sure why that's relevant to the real question at hand that I just mentioned.

[DMX7]

Why don’t you just say it?

Say what?

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1722614520290693245

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1722620738019217628

[daboom1]

Make sure you're right...


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Then give Effy the 12 incher.

[Ef-man]

Putler doing botox? :lol

https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1722681919886729270

[ElNono]

What's not true? I know the contracts favored Russia before the war. I'm in full agreement with the sanctions and that the sanctions benefited the US to some extent, but long-term agreements outlast the lifting of sanctions. They wouldn't be making these long-term agreements for 20-30 years if they didn't.

European governments will probably buy more Russian energy if sanctions are lifted but the market has changed with these long-term agreements and with Russia no longer considered a reliable supplier. I'm just making the point that it doesn't all go away if sanctions are lifted which is what you seemed to suggest.

Because it doesn't make any economic sense. If the sanctions are lifted and there's no actual limitation from Russia to import gas to Europe again, then those agreements are simply not competitive. This is simple economics.

Europe also had (large) agreements with Russia which quickly ended when the war broke out. The notion that uncompetitive agreements will remain in place if sanctions are lifted is pure fantasy.

Companies have a duty to shareholders, not some national obligation. It would be a dereliction of duty not to take the cheaper source.


The real question is if we increase the military spending or not in order to fund donations to Ukraine. I think I misunderstood what you were trying to say about reducing spending -- I'm not sure why that's relevant to the real question at hand that I just mentioned.

But this is red-herring. We always increase military spending, whether we spend it in Ukraine or not. It's relevant in your claim that the Ukraine aid is an investment and not making that investment would save the government money.

[clambake]

Say what?

Say why you support Russia.

Say why you trust Russia.

Trump extorted Ukraine. Fact

Trump said Putin is a good guy. Fact

Trump said he doesn’t like NATO. Fact

Trump gets stomped on Election Day. Fact

Just say it.

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Then give Effy the 12 incher.

[velik_m]

In occupied Crimea, mobilised Russians beat their commander to death.

Mobilised Russians in occupied Crimea have beaten up their colonel, which resulted in his death. This is reported by the GUR.

The beating took place in the temporarily occupied Simferopol on 1 November.

A group of mobilised soldiers of the 20th Motor Rifle Division, part of the 8th Army of the Southern Military District of the Russian Armed Forces, inflicted grievous bodily harm on Colonel Musurbekov," the report said.

on 7 November, a hospital in Simferopol stated Musurbekov's death from his injuries.

The officer of the Russian occupation army held the position of deputy commander of the regiment.

The Russian servicemen suspected of killing the colonel changed into civilian clothes on the same day, deserted from the military unit and fled to the Krasnodar region of the Russian Federation.

https://en.socportal.info/en/news/in-crimea-mobilised-russians-beat-their-colonel-to-death/

[hater]

Make sure you're right...


https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fd.newsweek.com%2Fen%2Ffull%2F1369 325%2Fvladimir-putin-sanctions-russia-us.jpg&f=1&nofb=1



Then give Effy the 12 incher.

:tu

[hater]

Say why you support Russia.

Say why you trust Russia.

Trump extorted Ukraine. Fact

Trump said Putin is a good guy. Fact

Trump said he doesn’t like NATO. Fact

Trump gets stomped on Election Day. Fact

Just say it.

Meds on ailse 3

Meds on ailse 3 please....

[hater]

Make sure you're right...


https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fd.newsweek.com%2Fen%2Ffull%2F1369 325%2Fvladimir-putin-sanctions-russia-us.jpg&f=1&nofb=1



Then give Effy the 12 incher.

:lol

[hater]

https://en.socportal.info/en/news/in-crimea-mobilised-russians-beat-their-colonel-to-death/

"This is reported by the GUR. (Defense Intelligence of Ukraine)

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1722993253564199419

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1723020399242367249

https://twitter.com/Lithuanian_MoD/status/1723006382104805696

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/Tendar/status/1722516924976763117

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1723058690561847760

[hater]

:lmao

https://x.com/Ramy_Sawma/status/1723044676016517193

[Ef-man]

:lmao

https://x.com/Ramy_Sawma/status/1723044676016517193

Is the 3-5 day war over?

Did the miles long convoy of russian tanks take Kyiv?

Is Moskva shelling Odessa?

Hater still batting 0.000 ITT :lol

[Ef-man]

Speaker Mike Johnson floats confiscating Russian assets to fund Ukraine war aid: 'It would be pure poetry'

https://www.businessinsider.com/johnson-seized-russian-assets (https://www.businessinsider.com/speaker-johnson-ukraine-aid-seized-russian-assets-2023-11)

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Then give Effy the 12 incher.

[Ef-man]

:lol

Saudi Energy Minister Blames Speculators for Oil Price Drop

Oil demand is healthy and speculators are to blame for the recent drop in crude prices, said Saudi Arabia’s energy minister.

It’s not weak,” Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman told reporters in Riyadh, when asked about the decline in oil prices. “People are pretending it’s weak. It’s all a ploy.”

The minister said some participants in the oil market have been misunderstanding increases in oil exports in recent months from Arab nations in OPEC and their correlation with those countries’ production. Shipments are seasonal and tend to dip in summer, then rise again in September and October, meaning they should not be viewed as reflecting fluctuations in output, he said.

“It’s an abuse of numbers” to fail to distinguish between rising exports and rising production, said Prince Abdulaziz.

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1723243621200089587

[Thread]

Say why you support Russia.

Say why you trust Russia.

Trump extorted Ukraine. Fact

Trump said Putin is a good guy. Fact

Trump said he doesn’t like NATO. Fact

Trump gets stomped on Election Day. Fact

Just say it.


Because of Biden and what you all did to President Trump.

Because of Biden and what you all did to President Trump.

Horseshit.

Putin is a good guy.

NATO is shit.

Trump President. Not Clinton.

I just did.

[Thread]

:lol

Saudi Energy Minister Blames Speculators for Oil Price Drop

Oil demand is healthy and speculators are to blame for the recent drop in crude prices, said Saudi Arabia’s energy minister.

It’s not weak,” Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman told reporters in Riyadh, when asked about the decline in oil prices. “People are pretending it’s weak. It’s all a ploy.”

The minister said some participants in the oil market have been misunderstanding increases in oil exports in recent months from Arab nations in OPEC and their correlation with those countries’ production. Shipments are seasonal and tend to dip in summer, then rise again in September and October, meaning they should not be viewed as reflecting fluctuations in output, he said.

“It’s an abuse of numbers” to fail to distinguish between rising exports and rising production, said Prince Abdulaziz.

I boil it down, Effy...

President Trump: $2 a gallon.

Fuck face Biden: $4 a gallon.

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[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1723365182175343086

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And they can afford it, v. Germany ain't sent a child of theirs to the slaughters since '45. America has sent their children instead.

Why?

Hitler, the gift that keeps on giving for Germany.

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[Ef-man]

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1723342571148100066

[Ef-man]

Russians getting wrecked.

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1723339971988275580

[koriwhat]

Fuck Ukraine and you Nazi gays here too! :lol

[ChumpDumper]

^whore

[koriwhat]

Say why you support Russia.

Say why you trust Russia.

Trump extorted Ukraine. Fact

Trump said Putin is a good guy. Fact

Trump said he doesn’t like NATO. Fact

Trump gets stomped on Election Day. Fact

Just say it.

Keep crying pussy

[ChumpDumper]

Keep defending your Trump.

[Ef-man]

Keep defending your Trump.

Joey's mom must be out of town.

[daboom1]

Make sure you're right...


https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fd.newsweek.com%2Fen%2Ffull%2F1369 325%2Fvladimir-putin-sanctions-russia-us.jpg&f=1&nofb=1



Then give Dumps and Effy a 12-incher-a-piece.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol sad Qhris

[clambake]

Obsessed with dictator penis. That’s their world now, lol.

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Then give Dumps and Effy a 12-incher-a-piece.

[daboom1]

Make sure you're right...


https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fd.newsweek.com%2Fen%2Ffull%2F1369 325%2Fvladimir-putin-sanctions-russia-us.jpg&f=1&nofb=1



Then give Dumps and Effy a 12-incher-a-piece.

^^^^^

[ElNono]

Obsessed with dictator penis. That’s their world now, lol.

What do you mean "now"? lol

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Then give Dumps and Effy a 12-incher-a-piece.

[koriwhat]

Obsessed with dictator penis. That’s their world now, lol.

LOL says the dude who went in with the rest of the gays here when they were discussing Trump's and Epstein's weird dicks... Only reason I know they were weird is because of those like you here who post about it from obscure books/articles by unhinged ex campaign people, cabinet members, strippers, trafficked girls, etc...

Same goes for Fox news; only time I see anything about Fox is by those like you that post about that network and what's on it.

You stupid fucks are the FAR RIGHT tbh. :lmao

That's been you and your ilks world for some time now, lol.

[Ef-man]

Bitch Karen must be out of town for Joey to post this much.

C’est la vie

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[clambake]

LOL says the dude who went in with the rest of the gays here when they were discussing Trump's and Epstein's weird dicks... Only reason I know they were weird is because of those like you here who post about it from obscure books/articles by unhinged ex campaign people, cabinet members, strippers, trafficked girls, etc...

Same goes for Fox news; only time I see anything about Fox is by those like you that post about that network and what's on it.

You stupid fucks are the FAR RIGHT tbh. :lmao

That's been you and your ilks world for some time now, lol.

Says the joey, who was mounted and branded by a man.

[ChumpDumper]

LOL says the dude who went in with the rest of the gays here when they were discussing Trump's and Epstein's weird dicks... Only reason I know they were weird is because of those like you here who post about it from obscure books/articles by unhinged ex campaign people, cabinet members, strippers, trafficked girls, etc...

Same goes for Fox news; only time I see anything about Fox is by those like you that post about that network and what's on it.

You stupid fucks are the FAR RIGHT tbh. :lmao

That's been you and your ilks world for some time now, lol.

Far right Joey defending Trump and Epstein dicks per par.

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[FuzzyLumpkins]

Bitch Karen must be out of town for Joey to post this much.

C’est la vie

He always comes on here starting shit when he has no customers. He does owe Karen the rent after all.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Far right Joey defending Trump and Epstein dicks per par.

:lol

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/Tendar/status/1723354426709000329

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/TrentTelenko/status/1723473893887742331

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[Ghazi]

Putin stacked … Ukraine fucked :lol

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Putin stacked … Ukraine fucked :lol...

- "Prove it."

- "Shane" - "Shane"

[koriwhat]

Says the joey, who was mounted and branded by a man.

Your fantasies aren't my reality and never will be. I know plenty of gays here on ST you could hook up with though.

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/ukraine_map/status/1723367421816209513

[Ef-man]

Days :lol

https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1723709627919958122

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1723432097543606372

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1723355870673674514

[Ef-man]

You can run but you can't hide

https://x.com/Inside_the_AFU/status/1723347078477226429

[ChumpDumper]

Your fantasies aren't my reality and never will be. I know plenty of gays here on ST you could hook up with though.

I mean that's YOUR fantasy.

Sad mama's boy Joey.

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/victoriaslog/status/1723753280365359220

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[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/victoriaslog/status/1723753280365359220

:lmao Poorussia

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[DMX7]

https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1723432097543606372

Russia is making all kinds of tactical mistakes. However, it seems that Russia's overall strategy of simply wearing down Ukraine is working though.

Here's another example of a pretty pro-ukraine European politician seemingly realizing the same.

Czech President: Developments do not indicate that the Ukrainian side will gain a military advantage (novinky.cz)


"Negotiations may begin next year, as developments do not indicate that the Ukrainian side will gain a military advantage. Time plays in favor of Russia, which has a strong mobilization base of manpower. Having won time, it will also be able to replenish its material base, which it has long lacked. We see massive shipments from North Korea, we see attempts to circumvent sanctions," the Czech president said at the Diplomacy and Security conference.

[DMX7]

https://twitter.com/victoriaslog/status/1723753280365359220

People are sort of glossing over how politically difficult it's going to be to actually get Ukraine into the EU and NATO.

Sweden is an almost perfect candidate by nearly every measure and yet look how drawn out this process has become for its NATO membership. Ukraine has totally unprecedented complications to its membership so it will be substantially harder.

[Ef-man]

Russia is making all kinds of tactical mistakes. However, it seems that Russia's overall strategy of simply wearing down Ukraine is working though.

Here's another example of a pretty pro-ukraine European politician seemingly realizing the same.

Czech President: Developments do not indicate that the Ukrainian side will gain a military advantage (novinky.cz)

So getting more green russian troops killed after most season troops were killed is winning? Ok

Are you related to DMC by any chance?

[DMX7]

So getting more green russian troops killed after most season troops were killed is winning? Ok

Are you related to DMC by any chance?

Um... is that what I said? I'm in agreement with what the Czech president said. What are your thoughts on what the Czech president said?

Czech President: Developments do not indicate that the Ukrainian side will gain a military advantage (novinky.cz)


"Negotiations may begin next year, as developments do not indicate that the Ukrainian side will gain a military advantage. Time plays in favor of Russia, which has a strong mobilization base of manpower. Having won time, it will also be able to replenish its material base, which it has long lacked. We see massive shipments from North Korea, we see attempts to circumvent sanctions," the Czech president said at the Diplomacy and Security conference.

[ChumpDumper]

Russia is making all kinds of tactical mistakes. However, it seems that Russia's overall strategy of simply wearing down Ukraine is working though.

Here's another example of a pretty pro-ukraine European politician seemingly realizing the same.

Czech President: Developments do not indicate that the Ukrainian side will gain a military advantage (novinky.cz)

:lmao shipments from North Korea

Thanks for reminding us how poor Russia really is.

[Ef-man]

Um... is that what I said? I'm in agreement with what the Czech president said. What are your thoughts on what the Czech president said?

Czech President: Developments do not indicate that the Ukrainian side will gain a military advantage (novinky.cz)

My point is that russia tactical strategy is to send human waves against well prepared Ukrainian defensive positions. That will win some battles but not the war.

Ukraine's strategic plans is to weaken russian militarily until they can apply force. So far, russia has been throwing its reserves at the Ukranian counter offensive and to draw Ukrainian forces away.

It has cost the russians dearly and they will not be able to sustain these loses of men and equipment.

Sure, putler can continue pushing his men to the front lines but he should expect more of the same losses. Time does not favor russia with that strategy.

As far as what the Czech president, he would continue fighting if it was Czech that putler was invading; right now with no dog in the fight, he is Monday morning quarterbacking.

I still see Ukraine in strong position able to continue attacking and pushing all the way to Crimea.

[Ef-man]

:lmao shipments from North Korea

Thanks for reminding us how poor Russia really is.

Correct, with poor russian artillery spotting and shit trained russian artillerymen, we can expect most of the NK shit to go to waste.

[DMX7]

:lmao shipments from North Korea

Thanks for reminding us how poor Russia really is.

You're missing the forest for the trees.

This guy is a former general and Chairman of the NATO Military Committee.

[Ef-man]

You're missing the forest for the trees.

This guy is a former general and Chairman of the NATO Military Committee.

Listen, the Ukrainians are not conducting mass wave attacks and are holding back troops/resources until the time/place is favorable to them.

The Czech president knows that so it is highly probable that his statements are meant for the russians and not the Ukrainians.

Think about that.

[DMX7]

My point is that russia tactical strategy is to send human waves against well prepared Ukrainian defensive positions. That will win some battles but not the war.

Ukraine's strategic plans is to weaken russian militarily until they can apply force. So far, russia has been throwing its reserves at the Ukranian counter offensive and to draw Ukrainian forces away.

It has cost the russians dearly and they will not be able to sustain these loses of men and equipment.

Sure, putler can continue pushing his men to the front lines but he should expect more of the same losses. Time does not favor russia with that strategy.

As far as what the Czech president, he would continue fighting if it was Czech that putler was invading; right now with no dog in the fight, he is Monday morning quarterbacking.

I still see Ukraine in strong position able to continue attacking and pushing all the way to Crimea.

I think the Czech president (a former NATO general) does have a dog in the fight but he's just telling it like it is.

If Ukraine's own commander in chief says this is a stalemate, then what else will it take to convince you?

[ChumpDumper]

You're missing the forest for the trees.

This guy is a former general and Chairman of the NATO Military Committee.

Hey, if you're right, you'll get your negotiated agreement that Putin will shit on all over again!

Be proud!

There's nothing to do but bow to Putin!

[Ef-man]

I think the Czech president (a former NATO general) does have a dog in the fight but he's just telling it like it is.

If Ukraine's own commander in chief says this is a stalemate, then what else will it take to convince you?

Actually, the commander in chief said it will take at least a year as a supply of advanced technology is needed to break the deadlock at the front. (My words: fighting with old tech sucks)

"Zaluzhnyi acknowledges that this new phase of support is unlikely to occur in the near future, so the stalemate on the front will remain in place. “There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough,” Zaluzhnyi told The Economist, with characteristic irony.

The Ukrainian leader admits that he is under pressure to negotiate a ceasefire but has ruled it out because it would signify “leaving an open wound for future generations.”"

What else will it take to convince you?

https://english.elpais.com/international/ukrainian-commander-in-chief (https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-11-03/ukrainian-commander-in-chief-admits-the-war-against-russia-is-at-a-stalemate.html)

[Ef-man]

Also, do not underestimate General Mud, as he still has a say in war.

https://x.com/TrentTelenko/status/1723825694633824553

[DMX7]

Actually, the commander in chief said it will take at least a year as a supply of advanced technology is needed to break the deadlock at the front. (My words: fighting with old tech sucks)

"Zaluzhnyi acknowledges that this new phase of support is unlikely to occur in the near future, so the stalemate on the front will remain in place. “There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough,” Zaluzhnyi told The Economist, with characteristic irony.

The Ukrainian leader admits that he is under pressure to negotiate a ceasefire but has ruled it out because it would signify “leaving an open wound for future generations.”"

What else will it take to convince you?

https://english.elpais.com/international/ukrainian-commander-in-chief (https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-11-03/ukrainian-commander-in-chief-admits-the-war-against-russia-is-at-a-stalemate.html)

That convinces me that the war is at a stalemate and probably won't change a whole lot.

I know some F-16s are coming (probably limited in number) and more air defense. I just don't see where the "massive technological leap" is coming from that decisively breaks through all of Russia's defense.

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[Ef-man]

That convinces me that the war is at a stalemate and probably won't change a whole lot.

I know some F-16s are coming (probably limited in number) and more air defense. I just don't see where the "massive technological leap" is coming from that decisively breaks through all of Russia's defense.

If you understood what the chief said, you would understand that Ukraine needs weapons to win the war against russia, not just weapons to resist the russian invasion.

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[DMX7]

If you understood what the chief said, you would understand that Ukraine needs weapons to win the war against russia, not just weapons to resist the russian invasion.

No, I understand that perfectly. I don't think he's going to get whatever he may have in mind because it sounds like a lot.

So the war will likely stay at a stalemate and negotiations will be necessary if so.

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[Ef-man]

No, I understand that perfectly. I don't think he's going to get whatever he may have in mind because it sounds like a lot.

So the war will likely stay at a stalemate and negotiations will be necessary if so.

The Ukrainians are in it for the long haul and are determined to make the russians pay as they do not want another russian invasion down the road.

Eventually, a peace will be negotiated but only Ukraine will say when and what terms will be acceptable to it.

The longer it takes, the more russia will suffer militarily, politically, and financially.

I do not see it ending well for russia, however long it takes.

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[DMX7]

The Ukrainians are in it for the long haul and are determined to make the russians pay as they do not want another russian invasion down the road.

Eventually, a peace will be negotiated but only Ukraine will say when and what terms will be acceptable to it.

The longer it takes, the more russia will suffer militarily, politically, and financially.

I do not see it ending well for russia, however long it takes.

Yeah, except the longer this goes the more likely I don't see this ending all that well for anyone.

[Ef-man]

Yeah, except the longer this goes the more likely I don't see this ending all that well for anyone.

Joining EU and NATO down the road will certainly help Ukraine; russia can only hope it ends up as China's flunkey

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Joining EU and NATO down the road will certainly help Ukraine; russia can only hope it ends up as China's flunkey

...& holding that 20%. & daddy, sweetheart, any kind of negotiation and this deal is done, Effy. And I fuckin' mean it. Z said "No negotiation. Russia must leave Nazi occupied Ukraine 100%"PERIOD

That's the line, children, and we're all obeying it. & I fuckin' mean itPERIOD

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[velik_m]

Ukrainian investigators preserve heritage as Russia targets its cultural legacy

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Hundreds of museums, libraries and monuments have also been bombed, burned or shelled. Last February, Russians razed a small folk museum near Kyiv. Nearby buildings were left untouched.

Farther east, a Russian rocket destroyed the Skovoroda museum in the Kharkiv region. Locals carried out the only surviving statue like a wounded patient.

Ukraine has accused Russia of looting more than 30 museums, calling it the biggest art theft since the Nazis in World War II. In Kherson, Russian soldiers cut paintings from frames, dragged out priceless antiques and cleaned out more than 10,000 works of art from the Kherson Museum.

Russians also targeted ancient gold ornaments at the Melitopol Museum of Local History. Museum workers hastily hid the treasures in cardboard boxes in the museum's dank, unfinished basement. Russians headed to the museum and threatened to shoot the locks off the door.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-protecting-cultural-heritage-art-from-russia-60-minutes/

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I wouldn't leave Nazi occupied Ukraine with the shirts on their backs.

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1723780085809914361

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[ElNono]

Russia is making all kinds of tactical mistakes. However, it seems that Russia's overall strategy of simply wearing down Ukraine is working though.

Here's another example of a pretty pro-ukraine European politician seemingly realizing the same.

Czech President: Developments do not indicate that the Ukrainian side will gain a military advantage (novinky.cz)

You forgot this part, which he also said...

It is evident that Russia is attempting to prolong the conflict, Pavel added. Additionally, the Kremlin may await the results of next year’s U.S. presidential elections. Despite this, the West must continue to support Ukraine, the Czech president emphasized.

“The situation is not unequivocally positive. What should be positive for Ukraine is that we are on their side and should support them in achieving their goals. On our part, we have no choice but to continue providing support,” he concluded.

https://www.ukrainianworldcongress.org/czech-president-ukraines-military-advantage-in-doubt-time-favors-russia/

[ElNono]

What else did you cherry pick, tbh? Stuff like this?

Pavel reiterated previous statements about ensuring a long-standing commitment to Ukraine, as well as the need to prevent Russia from securing any kind of victory.

"Any success of Russia will mean our failure," he said.

https://kyivindependent.com/czech-president-battlefield-developments-do-not-look-like-ukraine-could-gain-military-superiority/

[ElNono]

Also not surprising that Putler is waiting for the result of the US presidential election next year... everybody knows soft Trump is weak on Russia...

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[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1724056519241613535

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1724043456912179409

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[boutons_deux]

Here's anti-pootin Russian expat with insider news

https://www.youtube.com/@INSIDERUSSIA

[DMX7]

You forgot this part, which he also said...

It is evident that Russia is attempting to prolong the conflict, Pavel added. Additionally, the Kremlin may await the results of next year’s U.S. presidential elections. Despite this, the West must continue to support Ukraine, the Czech president emphasized.

“The situation is not unequivocally positive. What should be positive for Ukraine is that we are on their side and should support them in achieving their goals. On our part, we have no choice but to continue providing support,” he concluded.

https://www.ukrainianworldcongress.org/czech-president-ukraines-military-advantage-in-doubt-time-favors-russia/

I didn't forget that part. It wasn't my point.

I agree with his military assessment of the current battlefield situation which is what I quoted. It's his political opinion that we need to continue to support them but the talk about negotiations tells you where this is headed.

By the way, I don't support the US cutting off all support for Ukraine and never have. But we shouldn't be footing the bill for a quixotic attempt to reclaim all territory which will cost a lot more. EU can if they want to. Read my many posts on this and you'd know that.

[velik_m]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRF9FJbeD50

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A lot of talk and very little delivery from Putin. He let's the U.S., take his shit and then plays softball with Ukraine, by letting them ship their grain out of there. I'm backing Putin to the end, and like Creed vows in IV..."No.matter.what."

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[velik_m]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecdxs8Al424

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America has nary room, v. Nary.

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[FuzzyLumpkins]

I didn't forget that part. It wasn't my point.

I agree with his military assessment of the current battlefield situation which is what I quoted. It's his political opinion that we need to continue to support them but the talk about negotiations tells you where this is headed.

By the way, I don't support the US cutting off all support for Ukraine and never have. But we shouldn't be footing the bill for a quixotic attempt to reclaim all territory which will cost a lot more. EU can if they want to. Read my many posts on this and you'd know that.

Quixotic? I have read the serials several times. How do you figure?

[ElNono]

I didn't forget that part. It wasn't my point.

I agree with his military assessment of the current battlefield situation which is what I quoted. It's his political opinion that we need to continue to support them but the talk about negotiations tells you where this is headed.

By the way, I don't support the US cutting off all support for Ukraine and never have. But we shouldn't be footing the bill for a quixotic attempt to reclaim all territory which will cost a lot more. EU can if they want to. Read my many posts on this and you'd know that.

The "current" battlefield situation continually changes, and in the case of Ukraine is possibly directly related to the support different countries can provide to it.

That, however, doesn't mean the US or any other country should be deciding what's best for Ukraine. That's a decision they'll have to make themselves.

What you didn't post is also related to your point, because when Europe says they have no choice but continue supporting, it's implicit that they don't think Russia is serious about any negotiation.

Putler's calculation is that if his soyboy Trump is elected next year, the US will bend the knee, and thus make things more difficult for Ukraine and Europe in general.

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The "current" battlefield situation continually changes, and in the case of Ukraine is possibly directly related to the support different countries can provide to it.

That, however, doesn't mean the US or any other country should be deciding what's best for Ukraine. That's a decision they'll have to make themselves.

What you didn't post is also related to your point, because when Europe says they have no choice but continue supporting, it's implicit that they don't think Russia is serious about any negotiation.

Putler's calculation is that if his soyboy Trump is elected next year, the US will bend the knee, and thus make things more difficult for Ukraine and Europe in general.

And it would be the first decision they'll have made and it will be after Blinken gives it to them after Biden gives it to Blinken. America/Biden is running thisPERIOD

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1724049915393786037

[Ef-man]

Days :lol

https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1723987962189283660

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[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1724427557016043668

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...Big deal. Stinkin' ass Biden swore on the Good Book to "Shut it down." Instead the old bastard killed over 3/4 of a million Americans & counting.

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And it would be the first decision they'll have made and it will be after Blinken gives it to them after Biden gives it to Blinken. America/Biden is running thisPERIOD

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[velik_m]

As Cargo Flights Leave Kaliningrad, Air Defence Systems Disappear

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Other users on X speculated about what cargo the planes could be moving, particularly the flights by the larger Antonov An-124 Ruslan planes,one of the largest heavy strategic military transport aircraft in use today. Users on X suggested that the cargo could contain S-400 missile systems bound for Rostov-on-Don after recent Ukrainian strikes using long-distance ATACMS missiles damaged Russian air defences in the occupied Luhansk region. On November 9, the UK’s Ministry of Defence wrote that in order to maintain coverage over Ukraine, it was “highly likely” that Russia would need to reallocate surface-to-air missile systems from elsewhere.

This prompted Bellingcat to investigate.

Bellingcat has found a marked change at two air defence sites in synthetic-aperture radar (SAR) imagery since the reported cargo flights, indicating that at least some of Russia’s S-400 batteries have indeed been moved away from their previous locations in the Kaliningrad Region. Where exactly they have gone remains uncertain.
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[velik_m]

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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1724351188848586995

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The old CLUSTER BOMB AFFAIR! Biden: "I am appalled that Putin would use these hideous weapons. I pledge now to all peoples of the earth that the United States of America and me President of the United States of America will never use these hideous weapons known far and as wide as Hillary's ass CLUSTER BOMBS. So help me whichever God you cherish."

A week later? Russia gets hit with CLUSTER BOMBS.

tee, hee.

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[Winehole23]

The "current" battlefield situation continually changes, and in the case of Ukraine is possibly directly related to the support different countries can provide to it.

That, however, doesn't mean the US or any other country should be deciding what's best for Ukraine. That's a decision they'll have to make themselves.

What you didn't post is also related to your point, because when Europe says they have no choice but continue supporting, it's implicit that they don't think Russia is serious about any negotiation.

Putler's calculation is that if his soyboy Trump is elected next year, the US will bend the knee, and thus make things more difficult for Ukraine and Europe in general.It's not impossible that will happen. It's way too soon to write off Trump.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1724427557016043668

To those who have missed the previous 30 years, here is a short list of the results of negotiations with Russia that it never respected:

1. The Budapest Memorandum of 1994. Russia agreed to “respect independence, sovereignty, and the existing borders of Ukraine” as well as “refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine”. Breached by Russia invading Crimea in 2014.

2. The Russian-Ukrainian Friendship Treaty of 1997. Russia agreed to respect Ukraine’s territorial integrity and “reaffirmed the inviolability of the borders” between the two countries. Russia breached it in 2014.

3. The OSCE Istanbul Summit in 1999. Russia committed to withdrawing its troops from Moldova’s Transdniestrian region and Georgia until the end of 2002. That never happened.

4. The 2008 Georgia ceasefire agreement following Russian aggression against the country. Russia agreed that “Russian military forces must withdraw to the lines prior to the start of hostilities”. That never happened.

5. The Ilovaysk “Green Corridor” in August 2014 and other “humanitarian” death corridors. Russia pledged to let Ukrainian forces leave the encircled town of Ilovaysk in the east of Ukraine, but instead opened fire and killed 366 Ukrainian troops. In the following years, Russia attacked numerous humanitarian corridors in Syria.

6. The “Minsk” agreements of 2014 and 2015. Russia agreed to cease the fire in the east of Ukraine. There had been 200 rounds of talks and 20 attempts to enforce a ceasefire, all of which the Russian side promptly violated. On February 24th, 2022, Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

7. The 2022 Black Sea Grain Initiative. Russia pledged to “provide maximum assurances regarding a safe and secure environment for all vessels engaged in this initiative." It then hindered the initiative's operation for months before withdrawing unilaterally a year later.

NB: I am only focused on deals made with Russia to address specific issues and conflicts. I am not mentioning almost 400 international treaties that Russia has breached since 2014.

There are no conclusions to be drawn here, except that no one can seriously use the words "Russia" and "negotiations" in the same phrase.

Putin is a habitual liar who promised international leaders that he would not attack Ukraine days before his invasion in February 2022.

Russia's tactic has remained consistent in its many wars over the last three decades: kill, grab, lie, and deny.

Why would anyone genuinely believe that Russia in 2023 is any different from Russia in 1994, 1997, 1999, 2008, 2014, 2015, and 2022?

I am just going to post this when Dan starts babbling about quixotic negotiations from Ukraine.

[Thread]

It's not impossible that will happen. It's way too soon to write off Trump.

...you learned that lesson 7 years & a lifetime ago, my Winester.

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[Ef-man]

Days :lol

https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1724788983039996133

[Ef-man]

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[Ef-man]

https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1723774116744847552

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1724502654053703918

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[Cry Havoc]

So, how long does it take Russia to beat a 2nd rate power again?

:lol Putin

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[Thread]

So, how long does it take Russia to beat a 2nd rate power again?

:lol Putin

Yet you brag about the 50 nations/countries lined up as well, Cry. You can't have it both ways, daddy-O.

Putin has 20% of it in spite of the aforementioned 50 countries.

Let us proceed...

[Cry Havoc]

daboom, do you think Ukraine is a person too? Is Putin trying to capture someone named "Ukraine"?

[Thread]

daboom, do you think Ukraine is a person too? Is Putin trying to capture someone named "Ukraine"?

Look at Cry; fart catchin'.

[ElNono]

It's not impossible that will happen. It's way too soon to write off Trump.

Didn't say it was. Clearly part of the Rusky strategy. They know who's weak on foreign policy.

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/Tendar/status/1724897819457421413

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status/1724723085163589926

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/TrentTelenko/status/1724888256393691317

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/TrentTelenko/status/1724774872591593655

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[Thread]

Didn't say it was. Clearly part of the Rusky strategy. They know who's weak on foreign policy.

That's why with Biden squattin' in there Putin has 20% of it.

[boutons_deux]

I don't think UKR will agree to anything, will no stop fighting, until Pootin and his invaders are back behind the UKR border, all UKR lands are back under UKR control

[Thread]

I don't think UKR will agree to anything, will no stop fighting, until Pootin and his invaders are back behind the UKR border, all UKR lands are back under UKR control

That's what Z said to start with and that is what old Dale is holding Z to, bouts. Anything else, dad, and I winPERIOD

& that's just the way it's gonna be.

Now,

Let us proceed...

[Ef-man]

https://i.imgur.com/XPe5p.jpg

Looks like someone is skipping leg days, tbh.

[hater]

That's what Z said to start with and that is what old Dale is holding Z to, bouts. Anything else, dad, and I winPERIOD

& that's just the way it's gonna be.

Now,

Let us proceed...

They said "Crimea by Fall" , Thread

[hater]

"The ruble will be rubble" - Joe Marionette Biden

https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/1725145032980934826

[Thread]

"The ruble will be rubble" - Joe Marionette Biden

https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/1725145032980934826

Marked!!!

[Ef-man]

Days.

Using hater's logic, Kupyansk must near a supermassive blackhole where time has slowed down to the point of several seconds near Kupyansk is equal several months here. :lol

https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1725124447797903605

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[koriwhat]

Fuck Ukraine!

[Blake]

Smh anti American Russian lovers. You guys are mental.

[hater]

Fuck Ukraine!

:lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fuck Ukraine!

Fuck calf-tats

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[hater]

https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1725320203326673152

[daboom1]

https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1725320203326673152

Z just needs more money. Where's that Pelosi bitch?

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1725320203326673152

Hater knows how to pick losers

The same mcgregor who said: "The first five days Russian forces I think frankly were too gentle." And soon afterwards said. "They've now corrected that. So, I would say another 10 days this should be completely over." :lmao :lmao :lmao



Speaking to Fox News three days after the Ukraine invasion began, Macgregor suggested that the conflict was already nearing an end:

"The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over, all of the Ukrainian troops there have been largely surrounded and cut off. You have a concentration down in the Southeast of 30 or 40,000 of them, and if they don't surrender in the next 24 hours, I suspect Russia will ultimately annihilate them." :lmao :lmao :lmao

[DMX7]

"The ruble will be rubble" - Joe Marionette Biden

https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/1725145032980934826

From what I've read, Russia is not going to have a budget surplus but will have a relatively small budget deficit.

The US, on the other hand, is going to have another whopper of a budget deficit. Our country's finances are an absolute train wreck.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

From what I've read, Russia is not going to have a budget surplus but will have a relatively small budget deficit.

The US, on the other hand, is going to have another whopper of a budget deficit. Our country's finances are an absolute train wreck.

:lol You are worried about budget deficits and your answer is to cut military aid to Ukraine?

Sophistry makes you stupid.

[Cry Havoc]

From what I've read, Russia is not going to have a budget surplus but will have a relatively small budget deficit.

The US, on the other hand, is going to have another whopper of a budget deficit. Our country's finances are an absolute train wreck.

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/23/1159118794/how-life-in-russia-has-changed-since-its-invasion-of-ukraine

Imagine glorifying Russia because they scuttled their future prosperity to fund a war.


In the Russian Federation, the average household net-adjusted disposable income per capita is USD 19,546 a year


In terms of employment, about 70% of people aged 15 to 64 in the Russian Federation have a paid job


life expectancy at birth in the Russian Federation is around 73 years


62% of people say they are satisfied with the quality of their water

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[velik_m]

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[DMX7]

:lol You are worried about budget deficits and your answer is to cut military aid to Ukraine?

Sophistry makes you stupid.

Your answer is to give away even more. :rollin

[ChumpDumper]

Your answer is to give away even more. :rollin

Whatever it takes.:tu

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Your answer is to give away even more. :rollin

I want to continue to provide aid to Ukraine. You do not except at the same time you want to seem as if that is not the case.

You remind me of a scientologist.

[ElNono]

"The ruble will be rubble" - Joe Marionette Biden

https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/1725145032980934826

:lmao Kim Dotcom

What did Steven Seagal said? :lmao

[ElNono]

From what I've read, Russia is not going to have a budget surplus but will have a relatively small budget deficit.

The US, on the other hand, is going to have another whopper of a budget deficit. Our country's finances are an absolute train wreck.

:lol you really can't compare the two. The US economy is one order of magnitude bigger than Russia. Heck, California and Texas individually each have a larger economy than Russia.

Russia is also one of the few industrialized countries (certainly the only one in the top 10), that have seen their GDP actually shrink last year (by 2%).

[hater]

How it started:
"Crimea by Fall"


How its going:
"The Russians are about to topple my government. Please help."



https://x.com/vicktop55/status/1725444367412863045


:lmao :lmao :lol :lmao :rollin

[hater]

"Whatever it takes for as long as it...... ahhhh fuck it. Sorry fellas"

:lmao :lmao :lol.:lol :lmao

https://x.com/AXChristoforou/status/1725436838775501095

[hater]

:lol you really can't compare the two. The US economy is one order of magnitude bigger than Russia. Heck, California and Texas individually each have a larger economy than Russia.

Russia is also one of the few industrialized countries (certainly the only one in the top 10), that have seen their GDP actually shrink last year (by 2%).

"Sanctions from Hell"

"The ruble will be rubble"

Russia to raise GDP by 3% in 2023

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Thread]

How it started:
"Crimea by Fall"


How its going:
"The Russians are about to topple my government. Please help."



https://x.com/vicktop55/status/1725444367412863045


:lmao :lmao :lol :lmao :rollin


"Whatever it takes for as long as it...... ahhhh fuck it. Sorry fellas"

:lmao :lmao :lol.:lol :lmao

https://x.com/AXChristoforou/status/1725436838775501095


"Sanctions from Hell"

"The ruble will be rubble"

Russia to raise GDP by 3% in 2023

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

hater x 3!!!

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1725522944980357557

https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1725514865786196144

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[koriwhat]

Fuck Ukraine!

[Ef-man]

Fuck calf-tats’ mom!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updates

Outside of the crossing of the Dnipro that RUS is failing to contain and Andiivka there is not much going on until it freezes hard. It seems strange to me that RUS propaganda is framing this as a war for freedom in the vein of their Great War defeating the Germans yet they are the ones griding down entire divisions in urban assaults.

I am also saddened that a lot of the people being sent into the grinder are Mongol tribesmen from Eastern RUS. It is both ironic and reprehensible that Moscow is sending Mongols to try and once again depopulate the Ukrainian state.

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/yasminalombaert/status/1725501385045594435

https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1725512934757986468

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1725518402574332027

[Winehole23]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updates

Outside of the crossing of the Dnipro that RUS is failing to contain and Andiivka there is not much going on until it freezes hard. It seems strange to me that RUS propaganda is framing this as a war for freedom in the vein of their Great War defeating the Germans yet they are the ones griding down entire divisions in urban assaults.

I am also saddened that a lot of the people being sent into the grinder are Mongol tribesmen from Eastern RUS. It is both ironic and reprehensible that Moscow is sending Mongols to try and once again depopulate the Ukrainian state.some Russians are more disposable than others. It's a political calculation.

[Thread]

some Russians are more disposable than others. It's a political calculation.

America disposed of 50k+ in Vietnam. We've nary room. Nary.

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[FrostKing]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updates

Outside of the crossing of the Dnipro that RUS is failing to contain and Andiivka there is not much going on until it freezes hard. It seems strange to me that RUS propaganda is framing this as a war for freedom in the vein of their Great War defeating the Germans yet they are the ones griding down entire divisions in urban assaults.

I am also saddened that a lot of the people being sent into the grinder are Mongol tribesmen from Eastern RUS. It is both ironic and reprehensible that Moscow is sending Mongols to try and once again depopulate the Ukrainian state.
Long story short it's West vs Russia now. So "War for Freedom" isn't a hard sell.

IMO the big wild card here is Putin's health. Two ways. If this were 2000 Vlad then Russian invasion is likely more successful but also if he's gone I think many regular everyday Russians will be open to returning to peaceful everyday life. And one that includes traveling and enjoying Europe.



The thing with Slavics and especially Russia is stubbornness & resilience is one of the main strengths. It's literally impossible to wipe out the Russian people. And their long term dedication to this War is now being rewarded as Ukrainians is losing financial support and angering allies.

[ElNono]

"Sanctions from Hell"

"The ruble will be rubble"

1 Russian Ruble equals 0.011 United States Dollar and dropped even more this year :lmao:lmao:lmao


Russia to raise GDP by 3% in 2023

President Vladimir Putin said on Friday that Russia's economic growth was set to exceed 3% this year, slightly better than previous official forecasts. Russia's economy shrank 2.1% in 2022, as the West imposed sweeping sanctions against Russia over conflict in Ukraine.

:rollin

[ElNono]

Long story short it's West vs Russia now. So "War for Freedom" isn't a hard sell.

IMO the big wild card here is Putin's health. Two ways. If this were 2000 Vlad then Russian invasion is likely more successful but also if he's gone I think many regular everyday Russians will be open to returning to peaceful everyday life. And one that includes traveling and enjoying Europe.

The thing with Slavics and especially Russia is stubbornness & resilience is one of the main strengths. It's literally impossible to wipe out the Russian people. And their long term dedication to this War is now being rewarded as Ukrainians is losing financial support and angering allies.

It's also been historically their downfall, tbh...

[FrostKing]

It's also been historically their downfall, tbh...
Yes. Stubbornness is clearly my negative spin on it. It's double edged sword quality. Every main culture has one too.

For example one specific War with Poland - Russians moved their capital instead of accepting inevitable defeat. Abandoning Moscow in the process. Other/most Europeans would just take the L and regroup. Poland had no plans nor capability of controlling their neighbor. To our credit we didn't destroy anything in their capital and thus I think they paid us the same respect during the Cold War.

Even today who has the resources to chase Russia around that vast land. Ofourse this is hypothetical War games because no Westerners are attempting to encroach on Russian land. Thus their "Great War" story will steadily run dry in the eyes of the Russian people.

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1725798824835182801

[FrostKing]

Polaks don't like Russians but overall we have a healthy history & relationship with them. Russia could be better but also worse. I think historically they are kinda wasted potential.

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[velik_m]

Polaks don't like Russians but overall we have a healthy history & relationship with them. Russia could be better but also worse. I think historically they are kinda wasted potential.

You know nothing about Poland, the polish people, their culture and history. Exactly which part of polish-russian relationship history do you regard as "healthy"?

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1725918637586854037

:lol

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status/1725935035268698272

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/17258216632734724762

[FrostKing]

You know nothing about Poland, the polish people, their culture and history. Exactly which part of polish-russian relationship history do you regard as "healthy"?
We have been neighbors for almost 1,000 years. Up until recent history, Europeans were constantly at War. Hence why Europe conquered so much of the Globe, perfected War with all the practice.

Remember it was Stalin that gave us back Western land from Deutschland. The Russians took Kaliningrad but fairly we kept Gdansk. During the Cold War they respected our Catholicism.

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1725961880240287877?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You know nothing about Poland, the polish people, their culture and history. Exactly which part of polish-russian relationship history do you regard as "healthy"?

He told me 1750s. :spin

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[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1725961880240287877?

MAGAs are saying that the sanctions are not working :lmao :lmao :lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

some Russians are more disposable than others. It's a political calculation.

No doubt. It is just the historical irony that gets me.

[Ef-man]

Sanctions bite: Russian oil prices plunge below threshold :lol

The price of the main Russian export grade of oil, Urals, has returned to the sanctioned level set by G7 countries at $60 per barrel, reports Reuters.

The prices of the Russian Urals oil today, November 17, have fallen below the Western maximum threshold price of $60 per barrel. This occurred against the backdrop of new U.S. sanctions against shipowners and a decrease in global oil prices.

According to reports, the U.S. Treasury Department announced yesterday that it had imposed sanctions on three companies based in the United Arab Emirates and three vessels owned by them, alleging their involvement in exporting Russian crude oil at prices above $60.

Overall, the estimated price of Urals on a Free on Board (FOB) basis for delivery from the Baltic to India on November 17 has dropped to $58-59 per barrel.

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/sanctions-bite-russian-oil-prices-plunge (https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/sanctions-bite-russian-oil-prices-plunge-1700257888.html)

[DMX7]

I want to continue to provide aid to Ukraine. You do not except at the same time you want to seem as if that is not the case.

You remind me of a scientologist.

You remind me of a child throwing a temper tantrum.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You remind me of a child throwing a temper tantrum.

You try and say you want to continue aid to Ukraine. At the same time, you make every argument against aid to Ukraine and do nothing but hold water for RUS.

That type of duplicity I have seen in scientologists on the drag in Austin. You remind me of them.

You got that I was mad from that? Interesting.

What I think is my comment made you mad and you think that I am feeling what you are feeling.

Ii think if you want to insist on the paradigm of a child it would be more like stranger danger, I don't want this man's candy.