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velik_m
08-24-2024, 12:26 PM
https://x.com/eurovanya/status/1826820342637363424
https://x.com/Bricktop_NAFO/status/1827378610098848015
Ef-man
08-24-2024, 12:42 PM
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1827386844771758181
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1827294523707338917
pgardn
08-24-2024, 11:24 PM
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1827386844771758181
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1827294523707338917
Ukraine has been hitting very deep targets with its own drones and modified stuff.
What I want to hear from Kamala is let the Ukrainians use Himars and atacms to hit logistic and storage sites within Russia.
This would allow Ukraine to disrupt much of Russias basic ability to wage war on Ukrainian military frontlines. But especially the Donbas and Kursk. This is vital. This has the greatest potential to force Putin to the table. Putin must see himself as a vulnerable leader in his country to negotiate anything.
The best outcome we could hope for imo, is a weakened Putin still running the country without humiliation. He’s old, dies eventually, while Russia degrades even more prompting the next leader to take the first baby steps in returning to the world wide economy. Russias biggest benefactor, China, does not want to keep propping up a “loser economy” as China will suffer as well. They have received more than enough oil, China could actually use a more vibrant diverse Russian economy to trade with. No vibrant economy will form in Russia while they are so war oriented. China knows and wants this. We need to help shove this in the proper direction while we can.
pgardn
08-24-2024, 11:27 PM
Btw, Putin helped force the use of US weapons on Russian territory by bombing the crap out of civilians in ALL major Ukrainian cities.
velik_m
08-25-2024, 12:07 AM
https://x.com/DenisDanilovL/status/1827282706574537013
https://x.com/KyivIndependent/status/1827485234646151198
https://x.com/RALee85/status/1827459553526448307
https://x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1824089674547146968
velik_m
08-25-2024, 12:08 AM
https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1827270194357576115
https://x.com/aborealis940/status/1827344284875374998
Ef-man
08-25-2024, 12:11 AM
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1827440688608219547
velik_m
08-25-2024, 06:19 AM
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1827615678594941397
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU_wWptDQ6Y
velik_m
08-25-2024, 11:57 AM
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1827656946788302862
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1827672330060923335
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1827412635693773172
https://x.com/officejjsmart/status/1827689196099940842
Ef-man
08-25-2024, 06:35 PM
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1827762355301699943
Ef-man
08-25-2024, 06:49 PM
Old school message sent
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1827677122879520887
hater
08-25-2024, 10:37 PM
RFK Jr. exposes Joe Biden and Boris Johnson:
“In April 2022, President Biden sent Boris Johnson to Ukraine to FORCE President Zelensky to TEAR UP a peace deal that he and the Russians had ALREADY signed.
That peace agreement would’ve brought peace to the region.”
https://x.com/CilComLFC/status/1827062042139791557
truth nukes by Kennedy :tu
hater
08-25-2024, 10:43 PM
Ce la vi
https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1821540354614567379
hater
08-25-2024, 10:44 PM
They fucked around
They found out
https://x.com/vicktop55/status/1815599901352349735
Ef-man
08-25-2024, 10:50 PM
They fucked around
They found out
https://x.com/vicktop55/status/1815599901352349735
So war will be over in 3-5 days? :lol
ChumpDumper
08-25-2024, 11:13 PM
truth nukes by Kennedy :tu
Why do you keep trying to make fetch happen, tater?
hater
08-26-2024, 06:42 AM
Dr. reality is one TOUGH professor
https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1828014688539455736
hater
08-26-2024, 07:40 AM
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
Cocaine is one helluva drug
:lol :lmao :lol. :lmao
https://x.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1828034510874689983
pgardn
08-26-2024, 01:03 PM
So war will be over in 3-5 days? :lol
There is a fuel fire in Russia on its 9th straight day, has yet to be put out.
Its massive. I guess hater called this as well.
pgardn
08-26-2024, 01:11 PM
Massive droning and missile strikes again within Ukraine. The Russian tactic now involves save up weapons and use them all at once. Smaller numbers are not working.
This should speed up the process to allow Ukraine to use US advanced weapons on Russian sites fire them.
In actuality, Ukraine has already probably used them sparingly. I would think all parties know this.
Ukraine needs to be able to use ALL NATO weapons on Russian sites that bomb civilians, its a no brainer.
Im sure Putin sees this coming anyways, so get those shots in on murdering civilians before Russia feels very widespread destruction of airfields and other missile launch sites.
pgardn
08-26-2024, 01:13 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
Cocaine is one helluva drug
:lol :lmao :lol. :lmao
https://x.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1828034510874689983
And you are on the drug.
The above is patently FALSE. Zelensky asked for no such thing.
pgardn
08-26-2024, 01:21 PM
Meanwhile Russian offensive on all other fronts has clearly slowed or stopped.
They are moving units to Kursk.
It will be interesting to see how Ukraine blows up the reinforcements coming in. We have already seen this accomplished very effectively. Russia should catch on by now and move equipment and human meat in a different manner. Russia is cutting off the mothers complaining about sons captured and killed in Kursk.
Aside: Kadyrof sends troops who give up and run to the Ukrainian side in Kursk so Putin had to have a talk with him in Chechenia.
Ef-man
08-26-2024, 02:32 PM
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1828132997633319324
Ef-man
08-26-2024, 02:51 PM
https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1827964902281015683
Ef-man
08-26-2024, 07:17 PM
they were not expecting a tank :lol
https://x.com/Danspiun/status/1828052925114941729
DeadlyDynasty
08-27-2024, 10:07 AM
Meanwhile Russian offensive on all other fronts has clearly slowed or stopped.
They are moving units to Kursk.
It will be interesting to see how Ukraine blows up the reinforcements coming in. We have already seen this accomplished very effectively. Russia should catch on by now and move equipment and human meat in a different manner. Russia is cutting off the mothers complaining about sons captured and killed in Kursk.
Aside: Kadyrof sends troops who give up and run to the Ukrainian side in Kursk so Putin had to have a talk with him in Chechenia.
Mate the push in the Pokrovsk axis is not slowing down at all. RF redeployed units from Kherson and Operational Command South to reinforce the push in the East (and have sent mostly raw conscripts to Kursk who die/get captured quickly in battle or shot by the Kadyrovites when retreating) and the Ukrainians look ready to concede the rest of the Donbas, although it will take another 100,000-150,000) RF casualties at the bare minimum to finish taking Slovyansk and Kramatorsk.
On the flipside, Putin can’t dislodge the Ukrainians from Russian territory and he can’t ensure the safety of his airfields, oil depots, fleet, and commanders. Now he’s playing a dangerous game in Belarus because NOBODY in that country wants to fight, and if forced there will be an uprising like 2020 and he can’t squash it this time because his best troops got chewed up in Ukraine the last 2.5 years.
The drones and long range strikes are pissing off the RF public, airports are having closures every day and flights cancelled because drones in the air, China now virtually owns everything east of Yekaterinburg (seriously, try to find one Russian east of either Yekaterinburg or Novosibirsk):lol. He not only expanded it, but also sent a dormant NATO into rearmament. The Ruble is worthless, he brain drain is in full effect, and they are essentially one regime away from being a Chinese vassal state.
velik_m
08-27-2024, 12:51 PM
https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1828438702923956244
Ef-man
08-27-2024, 01:20 PM
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1828472460863230356
hater
08-27-2024, 01:53 PM
Poor bastards
https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1828455912052289599
hater
08-27-2024, 02:01 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/NachoQuixotic/status/1689728097149390851
Ef-man
08-27-2024, 02:06 PM
FAFO
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1828346298526814469
koriwhat
08-27-2024, 03:06 PM
Fuck Ukraine! It's just easier to say and convey... Fuck Ukraine forever!
velik_m
08-27-2024, 03:30 PM
Fuck Ukraine! It's just easier to say and convey... Fuck Ukraine forever!
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hater
08-27-2024, 03:34 PM
Kokamedian plan:
1. Give up on Donbas
2. Invade Russia without air support
:lmao
https://x.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1828461585184002330
velik_m
08-27-2024, 03:44 PM
https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1828461057259819137
https://x.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1828404557157724462
https://x.com/MykolaKuleba/status/1828424541279817857
koriwhat
08-27-2024, 05:35 PM
I'm a dumb motherfucker and an armchair psych like the other losers here who are all deranged, on SSRI's, and have a psych of their own.
Just because you're a boot licker doesn't mean I am.
Fuck Ukraine and Fuck you too, Velik! :tu:lol
pgardn
08-27-2024, 06:05 PM
Mate the push in the Pokrovsk axis is not slowing down at all. RF redeployed units from Kherson and Operational Command South to reinforce the push in the East (and have sent mostly raw conscripts to Kursk who die/get captured quickly in battle or shot by the Kadyrovites when retreating) and the Ukrainians look ready to concede the rest of the Donbas, although it will take another 100,000-150,000) RF casualties at the bare minimum to finish taking Slovyansk and Kramatorsk.
On the flipside, Putin can’t dislodge the Ukrainians from Russian territory and he can’t ensure the safety of his airfields, oil depots, fleet, and commanders. Now he’s playing a dangerous game in Belarus because NOBODY in that country wants to fight, and if forced there will be an uprising like 2020 and he can’t squash it this time because his best troops got chewed up in Ukraine the last 2.5 years.
The drones and long range strikes are pissing off the RF public, airports are having closures every day and flights cancelled because drones in the air, China now virtually owns everything east of Yekaterinburg (seriously, try to find one Russian east of either Yekaterinburg or Novosibirsk):lol. He not only expanded it, but also sent a dormant NATO into rearmament. The Ruble is worthless, he brain drain is in full effect, and they are essentially one regime away from being a Chinese vassal state.
Not according to ISW although it is clear more units are being used from the regions you mentioned to go towards Kursk.
I obviously am not there, we know the area you are referring to is in deep trouble. But any slow down is important.
Agreement on most of 2nd and 3rd paragraphs, again, just based on my reading and listening.
pgardn
08-27-2024, 06:12 PM
Following possible new incursions into Belogrod.
hater
08-27-2024, 07:06 PM
Just because you're a boot licker doesn't mean I am.
Fuck Ukraine and Fuck you too, Velik! :tu:lol
:lmao
pgardn
08-27-2024, 10:49 PM
Not according to ISW although it is clear more units are being used from the regions you mentioned to go towards Kursk.
I obviously am not there, we know the area you are referring to is in deep trouble. But any slow down is important.
Agreement on most of 2nd and 3rd paragraphs, again, just based on my reading and listening.
ISW now has updated.
Not looking good in the east.
DD you were ahead of me.
Most of the things I read are very careful in cross checking info thus late.
velik_m
08-27-2024, 11:51 PM
https://x.com/RALee85/status/1828628472362668041
Ef-man
08-28-2024, 12:22 AM
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1828588417183101270
Ef-man
08-28-2024, 12:31 AM
https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1828663873865486617
Ef-man
08-28-2024, 08:36 AM
https://x.com/igorsushko/status/1828722776678810107
hater
08-28-2024, 10:29 AM
:lmao
https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1828463843212660980
hater
08-28-2024, 10:31 AM
Ce la vi
https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1828803571090853892
pgardn
08-28-2024, 12:38 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1828463843212660980
This is also patently FALSE.
Russian bullshit to change the order of words in a statement.
Keep em coming tater.
pgardn
08-28-2024, 03:35 PM
Kokamedian plan:
1. Give up on Donbas
2. Invade Russia without air support
:lmao
https://x.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1828461585184002330
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5_KCu5_RkQ
benefactor
08-28-2024, 05:10 PM
Is it over yet?
Ef-man
08-28-2024, 06:54 PM
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1828749726684176893
hater
08-28-2024, 06:54 PM
Shits happening fast :wow
https://x.com/distant_earth83/status/1828888195456708697
Ef-man
08-28-2024, 06:56 PM
Shits happening fast :wow
https://x.com/distant_earth83/status/1828888195456708697
They did this in what? 3-5 days? :lol
Ef-man
08-28-2024, 07:03 PM
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1828860762808369638
pgardn
08-28-2024, 07:52 PM
F-16s are in action now.
Defensively.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/08/27/ukraines-f-16s-have-scored-their-first-aerial-kills/
hater
08-28-2024, 07:54 PM
https://x.com/Kalibrated_Maps/status/1828933799650132347
Fuck around
Find out
hater
08-28-2024, 07:55 PM
Ce la vi
https://x.com/witte_sergei/status/1828499234385207694
pgardn
08-28-2024, 07:56 PM
Russian strategy in East has become shell town into rubble to the point there are no people or soldiers.
Then move in and take rubble. But it is working, slowly.
hater
08-28-2024, 07:59 PM
Anyway...
https://x.com/CheburekiMan/status/1828887796477784337
pgardn
08-28-2024, 08:01 PM
I Fucked around
I found out Russia was invaded.
Twice.
-Tater via Big Serge
hater
08-29-2024, 06:50 AM
:lmao
https://x.com/Navsteva/status/1828960470159507530
hater
08-29-2024, 07:39 AM
Dr. Reality is one TOUGH Professor
https://x.com/UKRRUSNews/status/1829110991956709829
hater
08-29-2024, 10:48 AM
The Abrams of the Sky
https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1829170186349687290
hater
08-29-2024, 12:16 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/WilhelmWKohl1/status/1828967640263536938
MultiTroll
08-29-2024, 12:48 PM
^ Gen Charles Browns comments being reported on any real news sights?
tater only has a couple Fake News tweets.
koriwhat
08-29-2024, 03:35 PM
Fuck Ukraine!
Ef-man
08-29-2024, 04:18 PM
^ Gen Charles Browns comments being reported on any real news sights?
tater only has a couple Fake News tweets.
tater always gonna tater, in 3-5 days
SnakeBoy
08-29-2024, 05:04 PM
Ce la vi
https://x.com/witte_sergei/status/1828499234385207694
Ukraine fanboys are claiming that the front isn't collapsing, rather, Ukraine is deliberately falling back to lead Russia into a trap. It's all part of Lil Hitler's victory plan :lol
hater
08-29-2024, 05:04 PM
Ce la vi
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1829247768155828620
RIP
hater
08-29-2024, 05:09 PM
Ukranian F16s grounded for the foreseeable future
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1829212987581984982
hater
08-29-2024, 07:32 PM
Ukraine fanboys are claiming that the front isn't collapsing, rather, Ukraine is deliberately falling back to lead Russia into a trap. It's all part of Lil Hitler's victory plan :lol
Giving up Donbass to start WW3
Thats their dream scenario
Little do they know the USA will drop them faster than Afghani Western dicksuckers at the drop of a hat
Poor bastards
Ef-man
08-29-2024, 07:38 PM
Giving up Donbass to start WW3
Thats their dream scenario
Little do they know the USA will drop them faster than Afghani Western dicksuckers at the drop of a hat
Poor bastards
WW3 in 3-5 days tater?
tater gonna tater. :lol
pgardn
08-29-2024, 09:15 PM
The Ukranian potential for droning the hell out of Russia is growing.
They are producing drones out of furniture for very little money and absolutely overwhelming Russian attempts to stop the attacks. Read article.
Airfields, oil facilities, and energy sectors are being taken out almost everyday in Russia now.
And its not going to stop.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c6240qepyppo
There are fires all over Russia.
We are now going on day 10 of the fires the Russians are unable to put out. How does this compare to 3-5 days to take over?
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/1a04/live/e1c81760-655f-11ef-9851-c5606b77a2fd.png.webp
pgardn
08-29-2024, 09:16 PM
Poke the Ukrainian Bear and it finds a way to bite back. Hard.
pgardn
08-29-2024, 09:22 PM
Giving up Donbass to start WW3
Thats their dream scenario
Little do they know the USA will drop them faster than Afghani Western dicksuckers at the drop of a hat
Poor bastards
Again one of the most ignorant posters of ALL TIME...
Putin has no designs on invading Ukraine.
Putin invades Ukraine.
Putin only wants to purge Ukraine of gays and Nazis.
Putin only wants the Donbas...
So incredibly gullible and idiotic.
pgardn
08-29-2024, 09:26 PM
There are fires all over Russia.
We are now going on day 10 of the fires the Russians are unable to put out. How does this compare to 3-5 days to take over?
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/1a04/live/e1c81760-655f-11ef-9851-c5606b77a2fd.png.webp[/QUOTE]
This and much more are getting destroyed so call the fat boy in North Korea. Help Dear Ruler!
At this rate the ruble will be worthless. Buy it now hater.
And the destruction of Russian infrastructure gets worse with each CIVILIAN city the Russians target.
hater
08-29-2024, 09:30 PM
Mexican Nazi last less than 30 days in Ukraine front lines
Asi es la vida, huey
https://x.com/blogdelnarcomex/status/1828832485888970816
Ce la vi
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1829247768155828620
RIP
That's pretty bad. Both killed in like less than 1 month of F-16's in operation?
Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs (Mark Milley) seemed very against giving fighter jets to Ukraine. Ultimately, the US is not giving them (other countries are) but he's right that they are hugely expensive and provide limited benefit for Ukraine.
^ Gen Charles Browns comments being reported on any real news sights?
tater only has a couple Fake News tweets.
It's not a credible source. I suspect there are many at the Pentagon that agree though. There's almost no military value in taking Kursk, especially given how undermanned Ukraine is in the Donbas.
velik_m
08-29-2024, 11:36 PM
It's not a credible source. I suspect there are many at the Pentagon that agree though. There's almost no military value in taking Kursk, especially given how undermanned Ukraine is in the Donbas.
Cutting Kursk - Belgorod line secures Kharkiv and makes for a logistical nightmare for Russians. It more-or less forces entire front from Kherson to Kharkiv run through single logistical node in Rostov. This is basically a mirror image of WW2 where the entire Russian southern front from Stalingrad to Cuacasus was run through Rostov.
FrostKing
08-29-2024, 11:54 PM
Cutting Kursk - Belgorod line secures Kharkiv and makes for a logistical nightmare for Russians. It more-or less forces entire front from Kherson to Kharkiv run through single logistical node in Rostov. This is basically a mirror image of WW2 where the entire Russian southern front from Stalingrad to Cuacasus was run through Rostov.
Where are you posting from, this WW2 flashback
You have such a strong stance on this War. If you have blood involved then speak up, otherwise don't play warmonger
Cutting Kursk - Belgorod line secures Kharkiv and makes for a logistical nightmare for Russians. It more-or less forces entire front from Kherson to Kharkiv run through single logistical node in Rostov. This is basically a mirror image of WW2 where the entire Russian southern front from Stalingrad to Cuacasus was run through Rostov.
I can only imagine the real goal was to divert major Russian forces but they didn't take the bait.
Ef-man
08-30-2024, 12:47 AM
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1829272061287547248
Ef-man
08-30-2024, 12:49 AM
https://x.com/igorsushko/status/1828964370094690548
Ef-man
08-30-2024, 01:00 AM
https://x.com/DefenceHQ/status/1828705761200881873
velik_m
08-30-2024, 06:35 AM
https://x.com/KyivPost/status/1829085537287754124
velik_m
08-30-2024, 06:48 AM
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1829442725927604439
https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/1829429115310526582
hater
08-30-2024, 06:56 AM
Where are you posting from, this WW2 flashback
You have such a strong stance on this War. If you have blood involved then speak up, otherwise don't play warmonger
He must be posting from one of the Chihuahua countries such as Lithuania or Slovakia.
Makes sense to be a rabid pro western warmonger when your little country can be obliterated at any moment with minmal effort
hater
08-30-2024, 08:17 AM
Lol Kokamedian
https://x.com/Panchenko_X/status/1829489902670733697
hater
08-30-2024, 08:26 AM
I can only imagine the real goal was to divert major Russian forces but they didn't take the bait.
They most likely wanted to take the Kursk nuclear power plan hostage.
Had they achieved this it would have neen a huge problem for Russia.
They can still attack it but that would give Russia green light to flatten Kiev would it cause a nuclear accident
velik_m
08-30-2024, 08:45 AM
https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1829261553612562791
velik_m
08-30-2024, 01:31 PM
https://x.com/Bricktop_NAFO/status/1829152204470829439
https://x.com/censor_net/status/1829565812706857323
Ef-man
08-30-2024, 01:55 PM
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1829421795843190921
hater
08-30-2024, 04:28 PM
Ugledar about to be liberated
Shits happening fast
Nazis shelling civilians in belgorod in revenge smdh nazis
https://x.com/DevanaUkraine/status/1829591771212333369
Nazis shelling civilians in belgorod in revenge smdh nazis
I've seen video. Could be friendly fire, but certainly looks like civilians are getting shelled there.
hater
08-30-2024, 06:22 PM
Ce la vi
https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1829597796623925622
Ce la vi
https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1829597796623925622
I think we already knew about it. Rumors is that it was shot down by a PATRIOT missile.
pgardn
08-30-2024, 08:39 PM
I've seen video. Could be friendly fire, but certainly looks like civilians are getting shelled there.
Do you think Russians are targeting and killing Ukrainian citizens with intent?
Do you think Russians are targeting and killing Ukrainian citizens with intent?
Almost certainly.
It's not a credible source. I suspect there are many at the Pentagon that agree though. There's almost no military value in taking Kursk, especially given how undermanned Ukraine is in the Donbas.
There's no great outcome for Ukraine vs Russia. No matter what, it will be a giant vs a midget with gifted brass knuckles and steel-toes.
The only ones who really benefit from Ukraine fighting the good fight are the military contractors and Europe at large. Russia has burned through every bit of political and economic capital they have on the global and European stage to conduct this war. If they had won in a few days as originally planned, Russia would be in a far stronger position. As is, I don't see a great outcome but Russia won't even think about being aggressive versus NATO nations for the foreseeable future. It's a win for us, but Ukraine is pretty much fucked in 5-10 years, max, as far as I can see.
There's no great outcome for Ukraine vs Russia. No matter what, it will be a giant vs a midget with gifted brass knuckles and steel-toes.
The only ones who really benefit from Ukraine fighting the good fight are the military contractors and Europe at large. Russia has burned through every bit of political and economic capital they have on the global and European stage to conduct this war. If they had won in a few days as originally planned, Russia would be in a far stronger position. As is, I don't see a great outcome but Russia won't even think about being aggressive versus NATO nations for the foreseeable future. It's a win for us, but Ukraine is pretty much fucked in 5-10 years, max, as far as I can see.
There's no path to the kind of no compromise "total victory" Zelensky has put forward time and time again.
pgardn
08-30-2024, 09:32 PM
There's no great outcome for Ukraine vs Russia. No matter what, it will be a giant vs a midget with gifted brass knuckles and steel-toes.
The only ones who really benefit from Ukraine fighting the good fight are the military contractors and Europe at large. Russia has burned through every bit of political and economic capital they have on the global and European stage to conduct this war. If they had won in a few days as originally planned, Russia would be in a far stronger position. As is, I don't see a great outcome but Russia won't even think about being aggressive versus NATO nations for the foreseeable future. It's a win for us, but Ukraine is pretty much fucked in 5-10 years, max, as far as I can see.
I agree with almost all of this except I dont think its a win for us. I think most of the world has lost other than some Mid Eastern countries who have gained diplomatic status via peace talks and prisoner trades.
All we are doing now imo is mitigating the damage done in trade. Our 3rd largest trading partners, the EU, have suffered. This is not good for us. And our relationships with China has also faltered. When we had to place restrictions on legal trading with certain countries, it inevitably went black market. The restrictions have definitely worked but some of it has been passed off via "flawless capitalism" to other illegal shit for morals individual companies as it always does.
I am hopeful the Ukrainians destroying more and more energy infrastructure within Russia will lead to some sort of peace with a large buffer zone between Russia and Europe. And agreements not to trash each other. But it will take Putin going away and ... and this is a huge AND... and some other individual(s) with more pragmatism and less longing for the old Soviet Union. Russia, at some point, needs to be integrated back into the worldwide economy.
pgardn
08-30-2024, 09:32 PM
There's no path to the kind of no compromise "total victory" Putin has put forward time and time again.
Its all in Putin's hands. Not Zelensky.
hater
08-30-2024, 09:52 PM
There's no great outcome for Ukraine vs Russia. No matter what, it will be a giant vs a midget with gifted brass knuckles and steel-toes.
The only ones who really benefit from Ukraine fighting the good fight are the military contractors and Europe at large. Russia has burned through every bit of political and economic capital they have on the global and European stage to conduct this war. If they had won in a few days as originally planned, Russia would be in a far stronger position. As is, I don't see a great outcome but Russia won't even think about being aggressive versus NATO nations for the foreseeable future. It's a win for us, but Ukraine is pretty much fucked in 5-10 years, max, as far as I can see.
NATO wont exist in 10 years
Russia will
Ukraine will most likely be a rump state like the Yugoslavian territories after the breakup
pgardn
08-30-2024, 10:04 PM
NATO wont exist in 10 years; no need.
Russia will exist as a democratic state and a viable trading partner
Ukraine will most likely also be a sovereign democratic state and a viable trading
Yeah I hope for this also.
But probably not.
Your need for dictatorships ruling the world makes it seem like you have taken an anal ramming in some dirty prison and become "Stockholmed" in the worst way.
Why do you need to be dominated?
hater
08-30-2024, 10:04 PM
Almost certainly.
No way
If u look at the numbers. Fighters killed vs Civilians killed. The Ukraine war is an anomaly. So many fewer civilians have died vs fighters.
Compare that to Iraq war, Syrian war, aafghan war and Lybian war
Not to mention the Israeli war on Gaza.
Its a ridiculous difference.
I would say about 1 million soldiers have died total on both sides. And only about 100 thousand covilians have died and thats exagerating.
Ef-man
08-30-2024, 10:10 PM
No way
If u look at the numbers. Fighters killed vs Civilians killed. The Ukraine war is an anomaly. So many fewer civilians have died vs fighters.
Compare that to Iraq war, Syrian war, aafghan war and Lybian war
Not to mention the Israeli war on Gaza.
Its a ridiculous difference.
What numbers and what source?
pgardn
08-30-2024, 10:13 PM
No way
If u look at the numbers. Fighters killed vs Civilians killed. The Ukraine war is an anomaly. So many fewer civilians have died vs fighters.
Compare that to Iraq war, Syrian war, aafghan war and Lybian war
Not to mention the Israeli war on Gaza.
Its a ridiculous difference.
Its a ridiculous difference because both Ukraine and Russia are militarily capable countries you fkn idiot. And that WAS NOT the question cabbage head.
And if you dont believe RUSSIA purposely aims at civilian targets to change the Ukrainian people's will you are a complete idiot.
But then again you dont believe both Assads were/ are butchers who use gas on their own people, and you dont believe Putin tries to poison people.
Keep to your pimple faced high schooler's tweeting.
pgardn
08-30-2024, 10:14 PM
Do you think Russians are targeting and killing Ukrainian citizens with intent?
Yes.
The answer is Yes.
hater
08-30-2024, 10:24 PM
What numbers and what source?
Well according to the UN:
As of February 15, 2024, 10,582 civilian deaths in Ukraine were reported by the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) due to the Russian invasion that started on February 24, 2022.
I would say in Donbas ,(Russian controlled Ukraine the number is at least 3 times more so 30k)
So thats 40k total by February. Being generous I double that figure to 60k
Thats 60k civilians dead fro. 2022 to 2024.
Thats peanuts compared to about 1 milliondead fighters on both sides
My statement stands :tu
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1296924/ukraine-war-casualties-daily/
hater
08-30-2024, 10:26 PM
Compare that to Israel war. Where 50k civilians have died and less than ,50k fighters have died on both sides.
Ridiculous difference tbqh
Night and day
pgardn
08-30-2024, 10:37 PM
Compare that to Israel war. Where 50k civilians have died and less than ,50k fighters have died on both sides.
Ridiculous difference tbqh
Night and day
The TOTAL number of people who have died in the Ukranian-Russia conflict is much, much higher. Its not close.
You want your point to be this:
Many fewer people are involved in the Israeli-Hamas conflict yet the percentages of people who have died is appalling, especially the percentages of Palestinians killed.
The Israelis have basically trapped a whole group of people and are slaughtering them while trying to get at the Hamas leadership and fighters.
And how do we know this with more certainty. The Israeli press is alive and well because it is a democratic country who has voted in power hungry criminal. Sound familiar?
velik_m
08-31-2024, 03:46 AM
https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1829757862924423264
velik_m
08-31-2024, 12:02 PM
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1829875247262437847
https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1829818665467879770
Ef-man
08-31-2024, 01:00 PM
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1829805967938068842
koriwhat
08-31-2024, 03:35 PM
Fuck Ukraine!
velik_m
09-01-2024, 12:08 AM
https://x.com/osinttechnical/status/1830068282218483959
https://x.com/bodbe6/status/1829906924319485991
velik_m
09-01-2024, 02:10 AM
https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1830121987412250764
That's some 16 km from Kremlin.
velik_m
09-01-2024, 02:17 AM
Russia’s ‘overheating’ economy to slow sharply next year, says central bank
Russia’s “overheating” economy will slow sharply next year with interest rates stuck at well above prewar levels until 2027, the Russian central bank has said.
Rapid growth, expected to hit 3.5 to 4 per cent this year, has been driven primarily by strong domestic demand from consumers and the state, which has outpaced supply, the CBR said in its annual report.
It said acute labour shortages and the negative effects of western sanctions were crimping production.
The central bank assessment underscores the challenges facing the Russian economy, despite its better than expected overall performance even with sanctions imposed by the west after Moscow’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022.
The CBR projects economic growth of 0.5 to 1.5 per cent in 2025 and 1 to 2 per cent in 2026, under its baseline scenario. However, longer-term expansion will be limited by “restrictions on technological imports and the outflow of skilled labour”, it warned.
...
https://www.ft.com/content/553c50cf-aa2c-41bc-8f4c-f8f24cee2b1a
koriwhat
09-01-2024, 12:49 PM
Fuck Ukraine!
pgardn
09-01-2024, 01:03 PM
https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1830121987412250764
That's some 16 km from Kremlin.
And it’s only going to get worse for the Russians.
Meanwhile Putin will continue to target civilians.
Zelensky has to be careful to avoid civilians. He needs to make daily life suck for Russian civilians via expected comforts. Power, water, then food.
And the whole thing sux.
Vlad, when you invade a country, think next time. The world is worse off as well. So good for you commie Soviet “don’t give a damn”
koriwhat
09-01-2024, 01:05 PM
And the whole thing sux.
Vlad, when you invade a country, think next time. The world is worse off as well.
Truer words haven't been spoken. Unfortunately it all sucks and our involvement sucks too while our Politicians sell us out and lie to us about everything going on over there and elsewhere.
ChumpDumper
09-01-2024, 02:22 PM
Who is telling the truth about what is going on there?
Alex Jones?
Tim Pool?
Ef-man
09-01-2024, 06:26 PM
russian btr squad neat Pokrovsk area at the wrong place and wrong time
https://x.com/DVDMTH/status/1830340920237044198
Ef-man
09-01-2024, 06:28 PM
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1830150501616255051
hater
09-01-2024, 07:40 PM
:lmao
VVP :tu
https://x.com/RussiaIsntEnemy/status/1830235283750584566
Blake
09-01-2024, 09:43 PM
:lmao
VVP :tu
https://x.com/RussiaIsntEnemy/status/1830235283750584566
Lol "Russia is not the enemy"
Lol Komrade hater
Ef-man
09-01-2024, 09:52 PM
https://x.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1829985697832267801
Ef-man
09-02-2024, 02:03 AM
https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1830181579605319900
Ef-man
09-02-2024, 12:54 PM
Holy fuck!!!
https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1830563901982884162
Ef-man
09-02-2024, 01:04 PM
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1830505737031647294
Ef-man
09-02-2024, 01:28 PM
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1830664889955938612
Ef-man
09-03-2024, 06:45 PM
https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1830667252074713107
ducks
09-03-2024, 07:31 PM
A Nuke could take out both countries
To hell with them both
pgardn
09-03-2024, 09:21 PM
A Nuke could take out both countries
To hell with them both
ducks with the deep thoughts.
MAGA man thinking.
Basic Trump voter.
velik_m
09-03-2024, 11:57 PM
https://x.com/NewVoiceUkraine/status/1831097086558736533
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1831090745824198883
velik_m
09-04-2024, 10:01 AM
https://x.com/ArturRehi/status/1830980754442240055
hater
09-04-2024, 04:39 PM
A Nuke could take out both countries
To hell with them both
Hope u dont mean Russia the biggest country on.the planet by far
It would take most of the nukes in US arsenal to destroy Russia. But Russias Dead Hand would obliterate all of the USA in return.
Nobody wins
hater
09-04-2024, 04:42 PM
Swedes got ass raped it seems....
Ce la vi
https://x.com/semper_vincit/status/1831389265269551467
ChumpDumper
09-04-2024, 04:48 PM
Swedes got ass raped it seems....
Ce la vi
https://x.com/semper_vincit/status/1831389265269551467
"rum:lolrs"
hater
09-04-2024, 04:57 PM
Fuck around
Find out
https://x.com/witte_sergei/status/1831427154107887670
hater
09-04-2024, 05:02 PM
"rum:lolrs"
Yeah the Swede FM just resigned just because :lmao
https://x.com/TobiasBillstrom/status/1831339734402060566
ChumpDumper
09-04-2024, 05:06 PM
Yeah the Swede FM just resigned just because :lmao
https://x.com/TobiasBillstrom/status/1831339734402060566
You don't speak Swedish, tater.
hater
09-04-2024, 05:15 PM
You don't speak Swedish, tater.
doesnt know theres translations to english right on d post :lmao :lmao
ChumpDumper
09-04-2024, 05:33 PM
doesnt know theres translations to english right on d post :lmao :lmao
"Unable to fetch translation" is the message.
His resignation isn't the rumor, tater.
Does his post address your rumors, tater?
Yes or no.
hater
09-04-2024, 05:37 PM
"Unable to fetch translation" is the message.
His resignation isn't the rumor, tater.
Does his post address your rumors, tater?
Yes or no.
:lmao
Doesnt know how to use twatter :lmao :lmao
hater
09-04-2024, 05:42 PM
When it rains it pours :lol
https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/1831213166900248736
ChumpDumper
09-04-2024, 05:50 PM
:lmao
Doesnt know how to use twatter :lmao :lmao
I did.
It failed.
hater folds.
ChumpDumper
09-04-2024, 05:51 PM
When it rains it pours :lol
https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/1831213166900248736
Same guy who says he knows who killed Seth Rich.
Do you believe him?
Ef-man
09-04-2024, 05:51 PM
Swedes got ass raped it seems....
Ce la vi
https://x.com/semper_vincit/status/1831389265269551467
Come on tater, you forgot to add how many of these were NATO generals!
ChumpDumper
09-04-2024, 05:52 PM
Come on tater, you forgot to add how many of these were NATO generals!
rum:lolrs
Ef-man
09-04-2024, 05:57 PM
rum:lolrs
And tater wonders why he is batting 0.000 ITT :lol
hater
09-04-2024, 06:07 PM
I did.
It failed.
hater folds.
U failed
Not surprising :lol
ChumpDumper
09-04-2024, 06:28 PM
U failed
Not surprising :lol
:lol twitter's failures are well known.
You're still folded btw.
hater
09-04-2024, 08:25 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/witte_sergei/status/1831443462220345708
Ef-man
09-04-2024, 08:53 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/witte_sergei/status/1831443462220345708
Go on tater, say it, how many NATO generals were killed?
tater gonna tater and keep his 0.000 batting average :lol
velik_m
09-04-2024, 11:44 PM
Lol, Why would foreign minister resign over death of soldiers? Only a stupid Russian who has no concept on how a democracy works would believe that.
hater
09-05-2024, 11:24 AM
Lol, Why would foreign minister resign over death of soldiers? Only a stupid Russian who has no concept on how a democracy works would believe that.
Lol You just admitted Swedish soldiers are in Ukraine :lmao :lmao :lmao
That woild make them mercenaries and green light to obliterate the bastards :tu
Fuck around find out
hater
09-05-2024, 11:26 AM
:lmao
https://x.com/BRICSinfo/status/1831688296298360866
koriwhat
09-05-2024, 02:38 PM
Fuck Ukraine!
hater
09-05-2024, 04:03 PM
Ce la vi
https://x.com/Navsteva/status/1831734495617138722
ChumpDumper
09-05-2024, 04:09 PM
Ce la vi
https://x.com/Navsteva/status/1831734495617138722
:lol tater's still trying to push his fake news.
pgardn
09-05-2024, 08:28 PM
Don’t EVER forget that Russia made a pact WITH HITLER to divide up Europe.
Never forget.
When it rains it pours :lol
https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/1831213166900248736
The "West" is always to blame. They are even some there who blame Biden nearly as much as Putin.
velik_m
09-05-2024, 11:21 PM
:lol tater's still trying to push his fake news.
And he's doing it for free, when he could be paid big money for it. What an idiot.
hater
09-05-2024, 11:37 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1831740122737602594
Ef-man
09-05-2024, 11:39 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1831740122737602594
Discarded in what, 3-5 days tater? :lol
hater
09-05-2024, 11:42 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao
https://x.com/philippilk/status/1831590464417366273
hater
09-06-2024, 09:30 AM
:lmao
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1831928829352497255
velik_m
09-06-2024, 01:10 PM
https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1831798028212301981
https://x.com/kvistp/status/1831723158816096755
https://x.com/KyivPost/status/1831966314367213914
Ef-man
09-06-2024, 04:08 PM
Russian soldiers complaining that after a Ukrainian FPV drone strike with thermite, everything at their position was destroyed, including computers, laptops, and a communications hub.
https://x.com/TO_WAR_I/status/1831753188313018527
Ukraine is worse off today than it was 18 months ago despite $10s of Billion more money and thousands more lives lost.
ChumpDumper
09-06-2024, 09:14 PM
Ukraine is worse off today than it was 18 months ago despite $10s of Billion more money and thousands more lives lost.You think it would be better if Russia took over the entire country.
We get it.
Ef-man
09-06-2024, 11:55 PM
People in Voronezh Oblast believe they had it better 18 months ago.
https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1832222481890803964
velik_m
09-07-2024, 12:00 PM
https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1832417824200929280
https://x.com/JayinKyiv/status/1832435982165332463
velik_m
09-07-2024, 01:45 PM
https://x.com/jimsciutto/status/1832028660699697199
https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1832330267643523237
hater
09-07-2024, 02:01 PM
Ukraine is worse off today than it was 18 months ago despite $10s of Billion more money and thousands more lives lost.
They should have taken the peace agreement signed on March 2022
All it was was not to join NATO and allow semi autonomy to the Donbas territories but keep them in Ukraine.
Now 2 years later they have lost 25% of their land, 500k young ukranian men and their country is a smoldering pile of garbage
Play stupid games
Win stupid prizes
Ce la vi
hater
09-07-2024, 02:57 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lol
:lmao :lol
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lol
https://x.com/IranObserver0/status/1832486659088081338
:lmao :lol :lol
hater
09-07-2024, 03:33 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1832351554420068387
You think it would be better if Russia took over the entire country.
We get it.
No, they could have had an agreement that didn't up the whole country. And they can have that now...
hater
09-07-2024, 06:08 PM
No, they could have had an agreement that didn't up the whole country. And they can have that now...
Except their masters in USA wont let them
Lyndsey said it best. They can fight till their last Uktanian man and we can have their trillions of dollars in resources.
Once all the men are dead we can all go on holiday or Blackstone contracts to Uktaime and fuck all the single women there which will be most lol. Ukranian women are fine as fuck too.
Its all a win for us
ChumpDumper
09-07-2024, 08:07 PM
No, they could have had an agreement that didn't up the whole country. And they can have that now...
You mean like the agreement ceding Crimea?
How did that work out, Neville?
Why will this time be different?
hater
09-07-2024, 08:14 PM
You mean like the agreement ceding Crimea?
How did that wok out, Neville?
Why will this time be different?
U dumbfuck
U think Ukraine has a chance to get Crimea back in the next 1 million years???
:lmao
ChumpDumper
09-07-2024, 08:19 PM
U dumbfuck
U think Ukraine has a chance to get Crimea back in the next 1 million years???
:lmao
:lmao tater
You're so stupid you don't even know what I'm talking about.
:lmao
You mean like the agreement ceding Crimea?
How did that work out, Neville?
Why will this time be different?
There's going to have to be some type of negotiation one way or another. Ukraine is going to have to compromise.
The comparison to WW2 is so stupid because if Putin is Hitler in your analogy, then it would take a full scale invasion and disarming of Russia to secure the kind of uncompromising victory you wish for. That's what it took to stop Hitler in Germany -- a full scale invasion of Germany that cost countless lives.
ChumpDumper
09-07-2024, 09:42 PM
There's going to have to be some type of negotiation one way or another. Ukraine is going to have to compromise.
The comparison to WW2 is so stupid because if Putin is Hitler in your analogy, then it would take a full scale invasion and disarming of Russia to secure the kind of uncompromising victory you wish for. That's what it took to stop Hitler in Germany -- a full scale invasion of Germany that cost countless lives.Nah, Putin's not going to live forever.
Negotiations have never stopped Putin.
You still think they will.
U think Ukraine has a chance to get Crimea back in the next 1 million years???
:lmao
I've already had this conversation with Chumpdumper.
His position is this: Ukraine can't take back Crimea but we should support them until they do anyway. :lol
ChumpDumper
09-07-2024, 09:43 PM
I've already had this conversation with Chumpdumper.
His position is this: Ukraine can't take back Crimea but we should support them until they do anyway. :lolNope.
Nah, Putin's not going to live forever.
Negotiations have never stopped Putin.
You still think they will.
Putin could live for many many more year and the next man up will probably not be a saint either.
We're never going to "stop" Putin from all his aggression but we need to deescalate this war and stabilize Ukraine so more normal life can return to what is left of it, which is a lot.
Nope.
That's not your position? Oh, then please share what it is... You think they can take back Crimea now?
ChumpDumper
09-07-2024, 09:49 PM
Putin could live for many many more year and the next man up will probably not be a saint either.
We're never going to "stop" Putin from all his aggression but we need to deescalate this war and stabilize Ukraine so more normal life can return to what is left of it, which is a lot.So don't stop Putin's aggression and that will bring life back to normal.:lmao
That's not your position? Oh, then please share what it is... You think they can take back Crimea now?No. I also didn't think Ukraine could occupy any Russian territory. You're just not as smart as you think you are, dude.
So don't stop Putin's aggression and that will bring life back to normal.:lmao
Deescalate the war means something more like "2014 to before full scale invasion" period at worst. Life was mostly normal for most of the country.
No. I also didn't think Ukraine could occupy any Russian territory. You're just not as smart as you think you are, dude.
So we should take action regardless of what you think is possible? Yeah, you're real smart, dude.
ChumpDumper
09-07-2024, 09:57 PM
Deescalate the war means something more like "2014 to before full scale invasion" at worst.But not stopping Putin's aggression -- because not stopping his aggression will bring peace. :lol
So we should take action regardless of what you think is possible? Yeah, you're real smart, dude.
We should absolutely continue to support Ukraine. It's proved to be the smart thing to do.
But not stopping Putin's aggression -- because not stopping his aggression will bring peace. :lol
Stop it how? Full scale invasion of Russia? :lol
We should absolutely continue to support Ukraine. It's proved to be the smart thing to do.
Ukraine is worse off today than it was 18 months ago despite billions more spent and thousands of lives lost.
ChumpDumper
09-07-2024, 10:44 PM
Stop it how? Full scale invasion of Russia? :lolNo, you said DON'T stop it -- and then peace is assured!
Ukraine is worse off today than it was 18 months ago despite billions more spent and thousands of lives lost.It would be way worse off if you let Putin do whatever he wants, which is exactly what you want for him.
No, you said DON'T stop it -- and then peace is assured!
It would be way worse off if you let Putin do whatever he wants, which is exactly what you want for him.
No. I said you "CAN'T" stop "ALL" his aggression, and you've proposed nothing to stop it and you know it.
You can certainly deescalate from here though. Let's start with a ceasefire.
You don't want that -- you want the full scale war to continue.
Ef-man
09-08-2024, 12:28 AM
https://x.com/cturnbull1968/status/1831421050447618178
Ef-man
09-08-2024, 12:29 AM
https://x.com/DrewPavlou/status/1831487558720831774
Ef-man
09-08-2024, 12:34 AM
https://x.com/Schizointel/status/1832607121218711912
ChumpDumper
09-08-2024, 01:18 AM
No. I said you "CAN'T" stop "ALL" his aggression, and you've proposed nothing to stop it and you know it.
You can certainly deescalate from here though. Let's start with a ceasefire.
You don't want that -- you want the full scale war to continue.Then what?
Let him rearm and attack again?
:lol you want to reward his aggression with a timeout so he can be more aggressive.
You're not really thinking this through, are you?
velik_m
09-08-2024, 04:35 AM
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1832706373479465215
hater
09-08-2024, 03:50 PM
https://x.com/PeterCronau/status/1832282441417158691
Ef-man
09-08-2024, 03:57 PM
tater looking for attention and finds a way to continue batting 0.000 ITT :lmao :lmao :lmao
Ef-man
09-08-2024, 04:02 PM
https://x.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1832510305768718656
hater
09-08-2024, 07:23 PM
I've already had this conversation with Chumpdumper.
His position is this: Ukraine can't take back Crimea but we should support them until they do anyway. :lol
His position is being bent over and taking this white house administration lies right up the pooper :lmao
hater
09-08-2024, 07:25 PM
Ukraine is worse off today than it was 18 months ago despite $10s of Billion more money and thousands more lives lost.
Yup they should have taken the deal.
West told them not to.
Straight from the Horsefaces mouth:
https://x.com/I_Katchanovski/status/1832894760257991007
ChumpDumper
09-08-2024, 07:33 PM
Yup they should have taken the deal.
West told them not to.
Straight from the Horsefaces mouth:
https://x.com/I_Katchanovski/status/1832894760257991007
It wasn't a good deal.
Putin would just invade again.
Even tater knows that.
hater
09-08-2024, 07:55 PM
It wasn't a good deal.
Putin would just invade again.
Even tater knows that.
That not very good deal >>>>>>> current deal.
ChumpDumper
09-08-2024, 07:58 PM
That not very good deal >>>>>>> current deal.:lol not when Putin would just break the deal after rearming, tater.
hater
09-08-2024, 08:00 PM
:lol not when Putin would just break the deal after rearming, tater.
Goal post move duly noted :tu
ChumpDumper
09-08-2024, 08:13 PM
Goal post move duly noted :tu
What goal post?
Your deal is a shitty deal, tater.
Ef-man
09-08-2024, 08:17 PM
What goal post?
Your deal is a shitty deal, tater.
tater is finding it hard to cope after his 3-5 day SMO took the road of FAFO over 900 days ago :lol
hater
09-09-2024, 02:30 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1833153130243965389
Ef-man
09-09-2024, 05:34 PM
https://x.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1833148616543715802
https://x.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1833148086442434577
velik_m
09-09-2024, 11:44 PM
https://x.com/Podolyak_M/status/1833131993803964697
Ef-man
09-10-2024, 11:17 AM
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1833315260490539515
hater
09-10-2024, 01:44 PM
Kursk holiday is over
Russian choppers just ground what was left of those poor guys to sloppy joe
Ce la vi
Ef-man
09-10-2024, 02:10 PM
Kursk holiday is over
Russian choppers just ground what was left of those poor guys to sloppy joe
Ce la vi
What??? The 3-5 day SMO is not over?
tater still batting 0.000 ITT :lmao
Then what?
Let him rearm and attack again?
:lol you want to reward his aggression with a timeout so he can be more aggressive.
You're not really thinking this through, are you?
Then we don’t have a full scale war.
You want the war to continue to what end? No end. That’s the problem.
ChumpDumper
09-10-2024, 04:39 PM
Then we don’t have a full scale war.We don't now.
You want the war to continue to what end? No end. That’s the problem.Yeah, Russia is still occupying Afghanistan after 45 years. Good point.
hater
09-10-2024, 06:35 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1833601673207681265
hater
09-10-2024, 06:50 PM
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1833505190152180116
pgardn
09-10-2024, 10:47 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1833601673207681265
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1833505190152180116
What are these posts suppose to suggest?
wtf are you on? Some sort of mushroom spore inhaler?
Seriously just go yank on something…
Blake
09-10-2024, 10:50 PM
:lmao
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1831928829352497255
Is 3-5 days still a thing? Are we in like what, day 4?
velik_m
09-10-2024, 11:53 PM
https://x.com/POLITICOEurope/status/1833501593032876355
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1833625262203769064
ElNono
09-11-2024, 02:28 AM
There's no path to the kind of no compromise "total victory" Zelensky has put forward time and time again.
There's no path to compromise as long as dictator Putin is in power.
hater
09-11-2024, 09:38 AM
Poor bastards
https://x.com/ricwe123/status/1833774289675272656
pgardn
09-11-2024, 12:01 PM
Poor bastards
https://x.com/ricwe123/status/1833774289675272656
Yeah Zelensky still has a lot to clean up after the Russian Puppet was voted out.
But you and Russia got so upset that you said 3-5 days AFTER DENYING Russia would attack.
Good analysis taters. keep it coming.
Ef-man
09-11-2024, 12:50 PM
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1833856638068945375
Ef-man
09-11-2024, 12:59 PM
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1833827287579369849
koriwhat
09-11-2024, 02:27 PM
Fuck Ukraine!
hater
09-11-2024, 04:54 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao
https://x.com/runews/status/1833930182530416782
Ef-man
09-11-2024, 05:09 PM
Et tu IT?
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1833974759484522912
hater
09-11-2024, 07:57 PM
:lmao Admiral Chola watching her Novelas on the ship :lmao
USA :lmao
https://x.com/amuse/status/1833840673914552541
Ef-man
09-11-2024, 08:06 PM
:lmao Admiral Chola watching her Novelas on the ship :lmao
USA :lmao
https://x.com/amuse/status/1833840673914552541
tater has not recovered from his failed 3-5 day SMO called it. :lmao
hater
09-11-2024, 08:16 PM
New world order. :tu
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1833830066582929445
Ef-man
09-11-2024, 08:40 PM
New world order. :tu
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1833830066582929445
tater celebrating the gathering of third world countries :lol
pgardn
09-11-2024, 08:41 PM
New world fodder. :tu
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1833830066582929445
Yep...
New world order. :tu
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1833830066582929445
The only way a new world order will ever again be forged will be through nuclear fire - and there won't be any winners to celebrate it. Quite the contrary.
hater
09-11-2024, 09:14 PM
The only way a new world order will ever again be forged will be through nuclear fire - and there won't be any winners to celebrate it. Quite the contrary.
Disagree
Empires eventually realize they are weakened and decrepit and hang the gloves.
See United Kingdom after WW2
Disagree
Empires eventually realize they are weakened and decrepit and hang the gloves.
See United Kingdom after WW2
More like, see Russia, 1989-91. USA doesn't have food problems, energy problems, infrastructure problems, currency issues, military is light-years ahead of every other nation on the seas. Unless you can see another carrier revolution where we suddenly can't compete like Britain and her battleships or some other situation like the aerial revolution where Americans actually have to fight way over here, there's simply no way anyone can touch us. Other than ICBMs, of course, as stated.
I know you want the USA to fail and that's what turns you on about Trump - calling the USA a failing nation, et cetera - but it's simply not true. China, for example, relies on our interest payments and trade deficit to literally feed their people. Both China and Russia are headed for demographic collapse and won't be able to keep the facade up much longer. Maybe if China or someone else beats us to all the riches in space -- highly doubtful. Our private space exploration entities are more robust than their public shit.
It is what it is, hater. The USA could be a lot better, but there's no one to challenge us in any kind of conventional sense. Their only option is a hard reset, which benefits them not at all and likely destroys the planet in the process. It's checkmate.
We don't now.
Then why did we just announce another $250M military aid package and another $717M humanitarian aid package? With no end in sight.
Yeah, Russia is still occupying Afghanistan after 45 years. Good point.
You think Russia is going to fold and just pickup its bags and leave Ukraine entirely? This isn't 1989 Soviet Union. :lol
hater
09-11-2024, 11:50 PM
More like, see Russia, 1989-91. USA doesn't have food problems, energy problems, infrastructure problems, currency issues,
:lmao bridges and roads are falling apart. nonexistent rail system. their sole civilian airplane company is falling apart. they are literally eating cats and dogs out there :lmao
military is light-years ahead of every other nation on the seas. Unless you can see another carrier revolution where we suddenly can't compete like Britain and her battleships or some other situation like the aerial revolution where Americans actually have to fight way over here, there's simply no way anyone can touch us. Other than ICBMs, of course, as stated.
:lmao our navy is on its last legs. most of our ships are either docked in repairs or dont have enough sailors to man them. aircraft carriers are obsolete floating mass graves. even the Houthis can render them useless. just look at the recent Operation Prosperity Guardian :lol the Houthis kicked our asses
I know you want the USA to fail and that's what turns you on about Trump - calling the USA a failing nation, et cetera - but it's simply not true. China, for example, relies on our interest payments and trade deficit to literally feed their people. Both China and Russia are headed for demographic collapse and won't be able to keep the facade up much longer. Maybe if China or someone else beats us to all the riches in space -- highly doubtful. Our private space exploration entities are more robust than their public shit.
nope. the USA is failing. its too late to right the ship. time to hang the gloves and let the new world order take over. USA can still be a great power if they work with the other powers towards world peace. I think if we decide to cooperate we can still have a few decades of great life in USA. if not, well we are doomed faster than needed
There's no path to compromise as long as dictator Putin is in power.
Oh there is but Zelesnky doesn't want it since it requires concessions.
nope. the USA is failing. its too late to right the ship. time to hang the gloves and let the new world order take over. USA can still be a great power if they work with the other powers towards world peace. I think if we decide to cooperate we can still have a few decades of great life in USA. if not, well we are doomed faster than needed
It's our national debt and the trajectory of our national deficits that's going to be our downfall if it's not fixed.
Most people are either ignorant of the debt problem or they simply don't want to believe it because denial feels better.
ElNono
09-12-2024, 12:16 AM
Oh there is but Zelesnky doesn't want it since it requires concessions.
It requires concessions from both sides. Thus, there's no path since Putin won't concede shit.
ElNono
09-12-2024, 12:17 AM
nope. the USA is failing. its too late to right the ship.
:lmao
:lmao another 3-5 days take
:lmao WW3
:lmao still batting .000 ITT
:lmao bridges and roads are falling apart. nonexistent rail system. their sole civilian airplane company is falling apart. they are literally eating cats and dogs out there :lmao
In an actual war, how fast do you think our infrastructure would become the envy of the world? The problem is Americans not wanting to fund such shit. In a war, such problems would vanish, and quickly. That's a fact.
Even then, what are you talking about, non-existent rail system? Our industrial rail capacity is absolute gargantuan. We won't be worried about local transports or bullet trains made for convenience if we need to move military munitions, bro. All that matters is having the heaviest gauge possible rail at that point, with available transport capacity, and we've got plenty of it. Again, we're talking about failing empires here. There's nothing critical about our infrastructure in terms of an actual war or even challenge to our sovereignty and "empire." No one even comes close to us if we really need to move shit, vast quantities of it.
As for Boeing, what does it matter? You're mistaking imperial collapse for private decline. Americans do all of this shit to save money, which really means staying in office. In the event of a real catastrophe - an empire-threatening one - money would be of no consequence. It's just paper.
:lmao our navy is on its last legs. most of our ships are either docked in repairs or dont have enough sailors to man them. aircraft carriers are obsolete floating mass graves. even the Houthis can render them useless. just look at the recent Operation Prosperity Guardian :lol the Houthis kicked our asses
Meh, we're clearly "fighting" with one hand tied behind our backs. We barely even do shit in response to them -- politics definitely plays a part as thousands of protesters support anyone against Israel + obviously the overall Yemen situation. If we really wanted to, we could crush their bases of operations and murder every single one of them. It wouldn't be a contest, at all. It's just not politically correct in the context. That's diplomacy for you. Really doesn't reflect on the USN at all, who is built to destroy nations top to bottom, not preserve the peace while killing rebels in holes. Same concept as Vietnam in action once again.
As for sailors or soldiers in general lol, cmon, dude. USA has an all-volunteer force, you know this. In the event of a real war, plenty of people who otherwise wouldn't would be called into serve definitely would. Oh, we're fat -- LOL, useless argument. not hard at all to have a hundred thousand men lose weight with literally the most basic meal planning and exercise. Actually proves my point, though - we're fat because we can be. No one dare challenge us other than the equivalent of fleas biting a dog. Again, not saying we're indestructible, but an empire in decline? I'll need harder evidence than we couldn't play whack a mole with rebels who operate on tiny costs.
nope. the USA is failing. its too late to right the ship. time to hang the gloves and let the new world order take over. USA can still be a great power if they work with the other powers towards world peace. I think if we decide to cooperate we can still have a few decades of great life in USA. if not, well we are doomed faster than needed
:lol and Russia would be more capable of leading than us? Why? They have a fraction of the arable land, a quarter of the population, a GDP lower than Texas. They can't even beat the Ukraine, homie. Yeah, right is my response to anyone (not even including us) letting them take the reins unopposed. It'd be China, if anyone leads a new world order, and that would obviously be shit for everyone but the upper echelon of the CCP. My point stands - USA could be a lot better, sure, but an empire in decline? LOL, who are the migrating barbarians or rising nations who can successfully oppose us in actual battle, in finance, in demographics, in fleet size, in nuclear capability, in our alliances and global projection all at once? It's checkmate, and has been since the Soviets fell. Only the nuclear option remains. Let's hope no one thinks it's worth a shot.
Ef-man
09-12-2024, 12:40 AM
Low iq tater talking about shit he knows nothing about, again.
His 3-5 day SMO still going strong over 900 days after he said it would not start.
He is batting 0.000 ITT
ChumpDumper
09-12-2024, 12:59 AM
Then why did we just announce another $250M military aid package and another $717M humanitarian aid package? With no end in sight.
Because you are ignorant of the actual meaning of the term "full-scale war" -- this is a you problem.
You think Russia is going to fold and just pickup its bags and leave Ukraine entirely? This isn't 1989 Soviet Union. :lolTrue, it's actually more fragile today because the government is not based on a party, it's only based on one old man with very clear edema.
pgardn
09-12-2024, 07:04 AM
It's our national debt and the trajectory of our national deficits that's going to be our downfall if it's not fixed.
Most people are either ignorant of the debt problem or they simply don't want to believe it because denial feels better.
Again.
If you were really worried about the debt you would start a thread on Social Security, Health Care, Military spending other than Ukraine.
Should we stop spending money on our Navy? The Navy keeps vital stretches of ocean transport open so we and other countries can trade goods.
Putin has to be squeezed. He is NOT stopping after Ukraine. His time is coming. He will die and then we must hope those in power will see the stupidity of his decisions. Hopefully. In the meantime he cannot be allowed to march into Europe.
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