Official 2017 Offseason Thread

[look_at_g_shred]

Decent counters by tgy. Got her on the ropes.

Not a fair fight though. She doesn't have that "nasty" as pop says. Seems too nice to win a street fight or mudslinging contest.

We have butted heads for sure. But I give it to ya. You got that nastiness.
She's a he.

[picnroll]

But won't they have enough players under contract?

Kawhi, Green, LMA, Bertans, Murray, Parker, Anderson, Mills = 8

MLE, LLE, White, Blossomgate, Gasol = 13

Add in Miluntov and Simmons and you're full. I don't see Forbes on roster if it gets filled out otherwise.




Not now. But Chinook is calculating for the luxury tax.

Gasol and Aldridge the only bigs unless they also bring an untested Milutinov?

[TimDunkem]

Gasol the only big unless they also bring an untested Milutinov?
:lobt2:

[SAGirl]

Decent counters by tgy. Got her on the ropes. Not a fair fight though. She doesn't have that "nasty" as pop says. Seems too nice to win a street fight or mudslinging contest. We have butted heads for sure. But I give it to ya. You got that nastiness. Every once in a while I answer something to the TGY but it's never a fulfilling chat... shouldn't bother.

[gambit1990]

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i'd take a flyer on him. haven't seen him in awhile but definitely can't be worse than joel anthony on the roster again.

[rastaspur]

Every once in a while I answer something to the TGY but it's never a fulfilling chat... shouldn't bother.

I'm not trying to dis ya.

Meant as compliment to both sides

[Hoops Czar]

Kawhi deserves so much fucking better. smfh

What kind of level of naive do people have to be to think Kyle Anderson won't get paid? they just gave a no D playing, broken down jump shooter who can't create his own shot and couldn't run an NBA offense to save his life 4 years and 50M. :lmao If Paddy's worth 50M, gotta think the FO values Kyle at around 75M because at least he can pass and knock down open jump shots.

RC Buford is pinning the Spurs championship hopes on a one trick pony that's all tricked out and on the word of a 34 year old pg coming off a ruptured quad who says he'll be better than ever when he returns. You can't make this shit up. :lmao

[BatManu20]

Murray with some new ink

http://oi66.tinypic.com/11b3zti.jpg

[MaNu4Tres]

Love how people complained about this being a one man team all season last year, but 3 quarters of playing well against a rusty GS suddenly means we're going to perpetually be in the mix to win. :lmao

All while, other teams have made leaps. Warriors have a core & role players who can play both ends and that can still improve...

McCaw will be better
Klay will be better
Throw in Jordan Bell
Draymond is barely hitting his prime
KD & Curry will remain 2 of the top 5 players in the NBA

OKC got Paul George
Rockets got CP3

Spurs may lose their 3rd best wing defender & scorer for the same money they spent to retain one dimensional midget that can shoot.

Mills cant get any better -- hes reached his peak.

Pau/ LA will regress further.

Parker will be done.
Green is on a slight decline..

A Murray & Kawhi leap is the only hope for this team to see the WCSF and if they do...theres too much dead weight to carry past the WCSF.

Im still waiting for the Pau 3 yr deal...

Spurs are going to be worse especially if Simmons walks & Manu retires. And they wasted their 1st round pick on a 4th string PG..with Bell, Hart & Bolden on the board.

[noles1983]

What's going on right now is pretty close to the scenario I laid out in my TT salary thread: (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266699)

Differences so far is that the tax line is $3 Million lower than projected and that Pau has opted out. Also replace Lee and Dedmon with the LLE and MLE, respectively.

This is what the projected salary chart looks like:



Name
2017-18


LaMarcus Aldridge
$21,461,010


Kawhi Leonard
$18,868,625


Tony Parker
$15,453,126


Patty Mills
$11,160,714


Danny Green
$10,000,000


Kyle Anderson
$2,151,704


Tim Duncan (stretched)
$1,881,250


Milutinov
$1,832,075


Derrick White
$1,697,225


Jonathan Simmons (QO)
$1,676,735


Dejounte Murray
$1,312,611


Davis Bertans
$1,312,611


Bryn Forbes
$1,312,611


Livio Jean-Charles (waived)
$1,035,200


Jaron Blossomegame
$815,615






MLE
$8,406,000


LLE
$3,290,000






Calculated Total
$103,667,112


Luxury Tax:
$119,266,000






Room Under Tax:
$15,598,888




The upshot of this is that the Spurs have $17.3 Million to split between Simmons and Gasol in order to stay under the tax. Assuming Simmons gets a first-year salary of the MLE, Gasol would have to sign a deal with an FYS of $8.87. That puts them in the $18M/2 or $28M/3 range. No using one or both of the exceptions would give the team much-needed breathing room -- especially long-term. But with there still being at least one hole in the rotation, they probably should look for help. They could also continue to stash Milutinov, but I don't think that would make any sense. You don't want to risk him having a good year and pulling a Bogdanovic.

Holy shit, what an abhorrent roster. :vomit:

[TimDunkem]

RC Buford is pinning the Spurs championship hopes on a one trick pony that's all tricked out and on the word of a 34 year old pg coming off a ruptured quad who says he'll be better than ever when he returns. You can't make this shit up. :lmao
Don't forget a 40 year old pretending that he doesn't know that he's coming back just to get more cash, a 36 year old/ 7 foot vagina named Pau, a fat discontent in LMA, and a bow-legged ever declining "3-n-D" player who forces us to play 4-on-5 on offense. "lmao

[Mr. Body]

Murray with some new ink

http://oi66.tinypic.com/11b3zti.jpg

He tattooed in armpit hair?

[gambit1990]

theme song for the offseason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIhFVB6VTbQ

[TimDunkem]

All while, other teams have made leaps. Warriors have a core & role players who can play both ends and that can still improve...

McCaw will be better
Klay will be better
Throw in Jordan Bell
Draymond is barely hitting his prime
KD & Curry will remain 2 of the top 5 players in the NBA

OKC got Paul George
Rockets got CP3

Spurs may lose their 3rd best wing defender & scorer for the same money they spent to retain one dimensional midget that can shoot.

Mills cant get any better -- hes reached his peak.

Pau/ LA will regress further.

Parker will be done.
Green is on a slight decline..

A Murray & Kawhi leap is the only hope for this team to see the WCSF and if they do...theres too much dead weight to carry past the WCSF.

Im still waiting for the Pau 3 yr deal...

Spurs are going to be worse especially if Simmons walks & Manu retires. And they wasted their 1st round pick on a 4th string PG..with Bell, Hart & Bolden on the board.
Kawhi and Murray are literally the only guys on this team with heart that can BACK UP their fire with their game (not counting Manu because we shouldn't rely on a 40 year old to run the bench O because Fatty can't). They look to be the only bright spots next year unless Fathead Jr. and Blossomgame suddenly break out and make Pop bench his favorites. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Murray with some new ink

http://oi66.tinypic.com/11b3zti.jpg
"Nothing is
impossible..
the word itself says
I'm Possible!"

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[TimDunkem]

"Nothing is
impossible..
the word itself says
I'm Possible!"

https://previews.123rf.com/images/kurhan/kurhan1102/kurhan110200758/8868118-A-businessman-passing-a-car-key-Stock-Photo-new.jpg

If only. Too bad Patty was re-upped to take crucial developmental time away only for Murray to lose it all once Porker comes back. :lmao...That or Porker comes back and Patty slides to shooting guard...:vomit:

[rastaspur]

He tattooed in armpit hair?

Dumb tattoo and saying imo. It's not even technically accurate. Where is the ' or a. It's a better tattoo than no regerts, but I wouldn't venture to call that cool.

[LakerHater]

So David West signed back for the vet minimum, again.

[Hoops Czar]

He's not signing with the Spurs for that amount, though, that's what people here don't seem to understand..Livingston was never going to take a cheap deal to join SA, either:lol

Spurs don't have any long-term assets outside of the 29th pick in the 2016 draft and SA is an undesirable location..shouldn't have signed Mills, though, and would be disastrous if they get Gay IMO..

Kyle Anderson is an asset. He's improving every day of every year and did you see the series against Golden State? He was the best player on the floor. I could go on and on but I won't. He's also about to get paid. Doesn't the league value high upside potential these days?

Also, remember when I told you the Spurs should sell high on Danny Green after the 2015 season because he was one of the few remaining assets the team had and you practically shit in my coffee by telling me how outrageous it was to trade away the best 3 and D guy in the league? Good times.

His contract is still reasonable though, in a useless sort of way. If the Spurs want to give him away, I'm sure a team would take him for a future second.

[LakerHater]

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[TimDunkem]

Meanwhile, the Spurs are about to re-up Gasol. :lol

[SpursforSix]

Holy shit, what an abhorrent roster. :vomit:

After Gasol, the Spurs will be committing about $80,000,000 with only 3 true NBA starters. And 2 of them have sucked recently.

[rastaspur]

I would have figured LMA would still have value equivalent to kanter. So kanterrible might be going to the king's and they sign and trade rudy to okc?

[spursistan]

After Gasol, the Spurs will be committing about $80,000,000 with only 3 true NBA starters. And 2 of them have sucked recently.
Grim business :lmao..

They believed their own hype with last year's team.. Wish Kawhi stayed healthy and Golden State still backdoor-swept them so they can see the light..Or maybe they would have still not..

[rastaspur]

:lol

Kanterrible was a auto correct I didn't mean to type. I like it though.

[tdunk21]

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[GSH]

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Jeff McDonald Retweeted JJ
If LaMarcus walks next year, the Spurs could be close to space for two max players.
That's far better that trading him for junk just cuz

[dabom]

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Jeff McDonald Retweeted JJ
If LaMarcus walks next year, the Spurs could be close to space for two max players.
That's far better that trading him for junk just cuz


It's a win win for the Spurs. LMA has to try for that contract. This is his livelihood he is fucking with. Not the Spurs.

[Mr. Body]

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Jeff McDonald Retweeted JJ
If LaMarcus walks next year, the Spurs could be close to space for two max players.
That's far better that trading him for junk just cuz

I think they'll let him decide if he wants to play and keep any value on the free agency market, or sit on his ass and kill it. He won't be traded.

[Robz4000]

There's gonna be literally nobody anywhere near worth the max wanting to take those spots next year regardless.

[AFBlue]

No way the Spurs lure two max free agents to SA with the prospect that Pop walks out the door right after they sign. Playing with a top-5 NBA talent will count for something, but I don't see a super team forming in SA through free agency.

[BillMc]

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Jeff McDonald Retweeted JJ
If LaMarcus walks next year, the Spurs could be close to space for two max players.
That's far better that trading him for junk just cuz

This. And this is likely the plan. LMA has a contract year, hopefully he'll manup and play regardless of his issues. But RC not sending him out for junk,

[noles1983]

Oh god, so we are stuck with the cuck.

[Mr. Body]

I doubt a shitty ass burgh like San Antonio will attract many players.

[LakerHater]

Calderon to Cleveland

[Hoops Czar]

There's gonna be literally nobody anywhere near worth the max wanting to take those spots next year regardless.

Russell Westbrook is worth it.

[rastaspur]

881306891837730817

Ahhh. So the locker thing is just the red xarpet/sales pitch. Got it.

[picnroll]

I doubt a shitty ass burgh like San Antonio will attract many players.

When the Spurs move to Austin they'll be able to sign all kinds of players and the value of the franchise will increase substantially.

SA will get a g-league team.

[Nathan89]

Spurs are going to be worse especially if Simmons walks & Manu retires. And they wasted their 1st round pick on a 4th string PG..with Bell, Hart & Bolden on the board.

Bell is garbage :lol

[Robz4000]

Russell Westbrook is worth it.


There's gonna be literally nobody anywhere near worth the max wanting to take those spots next year regardless.

[AFBlue]

Calderon to Cleveland

For the min. Very Spursian move, bringing in vets to fill out the roster. Good pickup for them as long as he's not asked to do too much.

[rastaspur]

When the Spurs move to Austin they'll be able to sign all kinds of players and the value of the franchise will increase substantially.

SA will get a g-league team.

You think this could happen? Haven't seen any rumors. I'm not local so when I travel to see them that could kill two birds with one stone.

No offense to San Antonio residents, but I would prefer the spurs were located in austin. Every time I visit Austin I have so much fun. Such a cool city with so much shit to do or get into.

My kind of city for sure.

[BatManu20]

881315744482447360

[mo7888]

If the Knicks are out of the running for George Hill, who's left that are realistic options for him? It's getting harder to see who has money for him that would have a need.

[Mr. Body]

When the Spurs move to Austin they'll be able to sign all kinds of players and the value of the franchise will increase substantially.

SA will get a g-league team.

Trouble is Austin is in love with the fucktard Longhorns. And the fucktard Cowboys.

[BatManu20]

881309092777783296

[FkLA]

When the Spurs move to Austin they'll be able to sign all kinds of players and the value of the franchise will increase substantially.

SA will get a g-league team.

Fuck outta here.

[Nathan89]

Is Calderon still better than Mills? Haven't seen him in awhile tbh.

[SAGirl]

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Jeff McDonald Retweeted JJ
If LaMarcus walks next year, the Spurs could be close to space for two max players.
That's far better that trading him for junk just cuz
I suppose... if he doesn't opt in.
The guys who said this past postseason was the last try with that particular team were wrong...
Hopefully the young guys get better...

[ace3g]

881196357469523969

[ducks]

Spurs tell LMA they will try to trade him atdeadline you perform raise your value

[Ice009]

There's gonna be literally nobody anywhere near worth the max wanting to take those spots next year regardless.

What about the 2019 class? They can just sign 1 year contracts next off-season similar to the Reddick deal and try hard for 2019? I don't think Kawhi would like that, though.

[TheGreatYacht]

When the Spurs move to Austin they'll be able to sign all kinds of players and the value of the franchise will increase substantially.

SA will get a g-league team.
Austin has smarter, richer, and sadly slimmer fans. Plus the nightlife and women are great by Texas standards. Would be smart if attracting free agents matters to this team tbh..

[GSH]

You think this could happen? Haven't seen any rumors. I'm not local so when I travel to see them that could kill two birds with one stone.

No offense to San Antonio residents, but I would prefer the spurs were located in austin. Every time I visit Austin I have so much fun. Such a cool city with so much shit to do or get into.

My kind of city for sure.


So you're saying it's really not the Spurs' FO's fault? It's the lack of ho's and drugs and shit? I guess it's really pretty amazing that the Spurs have gotten as many players as they have over the years. It's a wonder they can even fill a 15 man roster. Seems like even a min contract would be enough to buy a lot of ho's and drugs and shit.

Then again... a 45 minute commute to Austin, to enjoy all those things, is probably shorter than the daily commutes in LA. If they can drive an hour in LA, why can't they drive 45 minutes to Austin if they live here?

[timtonymanu]

Yeah what's the point when no one is gonna want to sign here anyway.

[Ice009]

Is Austin that much different/better than San Antonio? How far away is it?

[picnroll]

Austin has smarter, richer, and sadly slimmer fans. Plus the nightlife and women are great by Texas standards. Would be smart if attracting free agents matters to this team tbh..
Holt's bean counters are going to tally up the increase in value of the Spurs franchise in Austin compared to SA. Only a matter of when. Definitely by the time a new arena is needed.

[GSH]

Is Austin that much different/better than San Antonio? How far away is it?


That's what I'm saying. People in LA don't live next door to every fucking bar. Especially not the wealthy ones. My wife grew up there, and when we go back we drive an hour or more to every damn thing we want to do. Maybe when the Spurs should put Austin on their recruiting tour, and the problem is solved?

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski (https://twitter.com/wojespn) (https://twitter.com/wojespn) @wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)


Restricted free agent Joe Ingles is finalizing a deal to return to the Utah Jazz, Ingles tells ESPN. espn.com/espn/now?nowId… (https://t.co/Jf0IgYSfpl)




Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn) 21s (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881325384851181569)
Ingles deal: 4 years, $52M, source says.

[BatManu20]

Ingles is Hayward's best friend on the team, along with Georgie. His return to Utah confirmed.


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[FkLA]

Is Austin that much different/better than San Antonio? How far away is it?

A little under two hours away. Whiter, more expensive, more hipster, more liberal, younger, etc. University of Texas is there. It's a cool city but the Spurs have too much history in SA to make that move. Good luck getting hipsters/liberals to help fund a new arena too.

Would rather just turn it into an SA-Austin Metroplex like DFW. Would help in getting an NFL team and MLS.

[spursistan]

I think George Hill and his agent may have overplayed their hands :lol..They were dumb to refuse that Jazz extension. Now, Knicks are his last hope for a fat contract, but even Phil isn't there anymore..

[ducks]

Ingles is one of Gordon Hayward's closest friends on team, and shares Mark Bartelstein of Priority Sports as an agent.
Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
Ingles deal: 4 years, $52M, source says.

[BatManu20]

I think George Hill and his agent may have overplayed their hands :lol..They were dumb to refuse that Jazz extension. Now, Knicks are his last hope for a fat contract, but even Phil isn't there anymore..

Spurs will end up signing him in a friendly deal and trot out 6 PG's next year to help Kawhi tbh.

[mudyez]

881301975803064320

Why another PG?

[BatManu20]

881301975803064320

Fake Woj account bruh :lol

[FkLA]

881301975803064320

Wut

edit: lol espm

[ducks]

Fake

[timtonymanu]

Rofl

[mudyez]

Fake Woj account bruh :lol

LOL@me

I'm relieved.

[picnroll]

FAKE NEWS

[ducks]

Delete it

[ducks]

Fraudnews

[GSH]

Ingles deal: 4 years, $52M, source says.

For a 7 point/3 rebound player. If someone offers Simmons a poison pill deal, it's going to come out to just about that much isn't it?

So if the Spurs match a poison pill offer for Simmons that's more or less the same as Patty. And the Spurs would have around 25% of the cap tied up for the next four years, in Simmons and Mills? I don't understand how these new contracts are going to work under the salary cap.

They messed up last year, with that huge cap increase all at one time. Now the ripple effects are hitting, as better players realize that they should be worth MUCH more than these guys. (LeBron came out and said that Curry is under-paid with his new $201M contract.) I don't know if Patty/Simmons/Ingles are all worth $12M+ per season. But when you have $100M to work with, it's hard to fit many of those contracts in. And you sure as shit can't build a championship team out of guys that level.

[tonight...you]

It's a win win for the Spurs. LMA has to try for that contract. This is his livelihood he is fucking with. Not the Spurs.
Thank you. Of course it's Dabom with the heady agreement with yours truly. Fuck Aldridge and his being a bitch. You want a contract? Play your ass off. And he will. You think he's the type of puss that will pop off at Pop during practice? Pop?

He knows GM's now think less of him disregarding the Spurs Way, rather than giving Him the benefit of the doubt. He better bust his butt and not be a distraction, but that's not a problem.
He's not that guy. He's passive-aggressive and his contract year is not the time to be passive. He took his chance and got rebuffed hard. His trade value right now should be hitting him hard.

He either gets it together and earns that next contract, or he completely implodes and it's all good. We'll be rid of him and he can rot.

[r0drig0lac]

espm lmao

[marinoman]

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So should I be happy we're still in the running for gay?

[picnroll]

Spurs can't even sign the coyote.

[FkLA]

Get Gay and Gibson and we are still #2 in the West even if LMGay stays. Shit, we're probably still #2 as is.

[tonight...you]

So should I be happy we're still in the running for gay?
No... you should not. Just don't be gullible for ish like teams trying to get players to visualize being with a future team as their... whatevs. I don't care. Pursuit? Recruitment? All this shit is silly to me.

I just thank the Universe I have a great job to pay the bills comfortably and an amazing girl I don't deserve.

Basketball is just fun and games, in the grand scheme.

But, I am having much more fun than I should with TimDunkem having a true and constant meltdown theough all of this.
Old boy needs to hang with some homies that know how to chill.

This shit is aging more than a few posters here.

TGY has pulled out more hair than Costanza ever had his whole life- cumulatively.

[tdunk21]

Get Gay and Gibson and we are still #2 in the West even if LMGay stays. Shit, we're probably still #2 as is.

How much for Gibson?

[FkLA]

How much for Gibson?

Tree fiddy

[SpursforSix]

A little under two hours away. Whiter, more expensive, more hipster, more liberal, younger, etc. University of Texas is there. It's a cool city but the Spurs have too much history in SA to make that move. Good luck getting hipsters/liberals to help fund a new arena too.

Would rather just turn it into an SA-Austin Metroplex like DFW. Would help in getting an NFL team and MLS.

2 hours???!!! Ok grandpa.

[marinoman]

Brooklyn offering Otto porter the max
Nets doing nets things

edit: bad source

[Ice009]

That's what I'm saying. People in LA don't live next door to every fucking bar. Especially not the wealthy ones. My wife grew up there, and when we go back we drive an hour or more to every damn thing we want to do. Maybe when the Spurs should put Austin on their recruiting tour, and the problem is solved?

I'm actually asking how Austin is compared to San Antonio. Is there more to do there? More nightlife? I don't live in the US.

[Nathan89]

Jazz got Ingles for 4yrs 52mil and Spurs got a 6ft sg for 4yrs 50mil.:lol

[rjv]

I'm actually asking how Austin is compared to San Antonio. Is there more to do there? More nightlife? I don't live in the US.

Austin is actually a California city.

[GSH]

I'm actually asking how Austin is compared to San Antonio. Is there more to do there? More nightlife? I don't live in the US.


That isn't even up for debate. The nightlife in Austin is much better than SA. Austin is the state capital, so it has more high-income young people. It has a smaller population, but a lot of people live in the metro area - just aren't counted in the population numbers. Austin has an incredible tradition of music/musicians. It's the home of a major university. I can't even count the ways the nightlife is better. It's not that far from San Antonio, and they have built out the corridor in between so much that it's almost continuous development. Meh... maybe not continuous, but it's well built out.


I was just questioning the idea that the main reason SA can't land more free agents is because the nightlife isn't up to Austin standards. There's still a lot in SA, especially if you have money. And Austin isn't that far away. The Spurs have been "boring" for a long, long time, and that doesn't land the big endorsements. I think that's a bigger factor. That and the fact that Spur players have to work on both ends of the court.

[FkLA]

2 hours???!!! Ok grandpa.

:lol tbf I live in the dirty Southeast side

That's another 25 mins of travel.

[BatManu20]

Lol Ingles

[MannyIsGod]

Jazz got Ingles for 4yrs 52mil and Spurs got a 6ft sg for 4yrs 50mil.:lol

Not sure why you think the Jazz got a good deal. They overpaid because he's Gordon's boy. Thats a far worse signing than the Mills contract.

[BatManu20]

I'm actually asking how Austin is compared to San Antonio. Is there more to do there? More nightlife? I don't live in the US.

Was born and raised in Texas and lived in Austin for 6 years. Have now lived in LA for the past 5 years, and I can tell you they are very similar. Austin is basically a smaller and hotter/more humid wannabe LA. That's what it's become anyways. Wasn't always like that, but the combination of it being a college town + the Tech Industry exploding there + tons of Californians, New Yorkers, & other out-of-towners moving there over the past decade has made it that way. Both fun towns for young people though. Way better night life in ATX than in San Antonio. Much younger population, better vibe, prettier women, lots more to do, etc. San Antonio is a blue-collared military town. Majority of NBA players don't want that.

[houston spurs fan]

:lol tbf I live in the dirty Southeast side

That's another 25 mins of travel.
This explains so much....

[FkLA]

Jazz got Ingles for 4yrs 52mil and Spurs got a 6ft sg for 4yrs 50mil.:lol

Are you saying that's better value than Paddy? :lol

I like Ingles but come on his numbers are pedestrian as hell and there's nothing about his game that jumps out. Just a white dude that is decent at a lot of things.

[Uriel]

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Why another PG?
Ban.

[FkLA]

This explains so much....

Who are you though?

[sasaint]

I'm actually asking how Austin is compared to San Antonio. Is there more to do there? More nightlife? I don't live in the US.

GSH and BatManu20 hit it as far as Austin is concerned - except that driving in Austin is insane. It is a small city with large city commuting headaches.

Hispanic influence is far greater in San Antonio, which is expressed in its ethnicity and architecture. SA also has a great music tradition - largely Hispanic or Hispanic-influenced.

From a San Antonian's perspective Austin is a little over an hour away. If an Austinite ever thinks of San Antonio, it doesn't really matter how close or far away it is; who would ever want to go there? Austin folks generally don't really think about the Spurs any more often than they do the city of San Antonio.

[GSH]

When the Spurs move to Austin they'll be able to sign all kinds of players and the value of the franchise will increase substantially.


Ah, hell, if you want to treat this as a serious discussion - the main reason the Spurs will never be moved to Austin is because it would siphon off some of the Mavs' fans. The league does some incredibly study of media markets before they place a team. Talk about moving the Spurs closer to the Mavs' back yard, and Cuban would have a fit. And the other owners would sympathize with him, and the plan would never see the light of day. It's the same reason that San Antonio or Austin won't get an NFL franchise, no matter what "they" say. It would drastically cut into the Cowboys' market and revenues. Both leagues are fine with things just the way they are. The Spurs couldn't just make the decision to move the team.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, but two cities already have two teams. I don't think the Mavs are that well represented in Austin at all, and Austin already gets Spurs games on Fox Southwest.

[rastaspur]

So you're saying it's really not the Spurs' FO's fault? It's the lack of ho's and drugs and shit? I guess it's really pretty amazing that the Spurs have gotten as many players as they have over the years. It's a wonder they can even fill a 15 man roster. Seems like even a min contract would be enough to buy a lot of ho's and drugs and shit.

Then again... a 45 minute commute to Austin, to enjoy all those things, is probably shorter than the daily commutes in LA. If they can drive an hour in LA, why can't they drive 45 minutes to Austin if they live here?

I'm not saying anything other than Austin is my favorite city in texas. Has nothing to do with drugs. The main draw to me is the music scene and a real melting pot of folks. Just a weird and different city like Portland. Asheville, nc, etc.

Music is more important to me than basketball. I only travel to San Antonio for play off games. Mainly finals games. On the days between games I shoot up to austin to hang out.

I'm on vacation and just trying to have the best time possible. It is purely a selfish reason on my part. Not speaking to player preferences.

If I was an nba player I'd go all magnum pi and just take helicopter up there to avoid that traffic.

I don't conside weed a real drug. That's all I do. Don't really even drink. Haven't done a hard drug in over decade other than when I go to a musical festival or a phish show, which is maybe twice a year .

You really can't go to a phish show sober. It's against the rules I think.

[picnroll]

Ah, hell, if you want to treat this as a serious discussion - the main reason the Spurs will never be moved to Austin is because it would siphon off some of the Mavs' fans. The league does some incredibly study of media markets before they place a team. Talk about moving the Spurs closer to the Mavs' back yard, and Cuban would have a fit. And the other owners would sympathize with him, and the plan would never see the light of day. It's the same reason that San Antonio or Austin won't get an NFL franchise, no matter what "they" say. It would drastically cut into the Cowboys' market and revenues. Both leagues are fine with things just the way they are. The Spurs couldn't just make the decision to move the team.
Not sure where you get that from. Austin is much more a Spurs supporting town than Mavs town. Not even close.

[rastaspur]

Ah, hell, if you want to treat this as a serious discussion - the main reason the Spurs will never be moved to Austin is because it would siphon off some of the Mavs' fans. The league does some incredibly study of media markets before they place a team. Talk about moving the Spurs closer to the Mavs' back yard, and Cuban would have a fit. And the other owners would sympathize with him, and the plan would never see the light of day. It's the same reason that San Antonio or Austin won't get an NFL franchise, no matter what "they" say. It would drastically cut into the Cowboys' market and revenues. Both leagues are fine with things just the way they are. The Spurs couldn't just make the decision to move the team.

Good points

[GSH]

Not sure where you get that from. Austin is much more a Spurs supporting town than Mavs town. Not even close.


Because if you moved the Spurs to Austin, their market would extend way farther north, and cut into places that mostly follow Dallas right now. Trust me, that part isn't even up for debate. Cuban would block it with a vengeance.

[ducks]

Ban.

Why retweet fraudnews

[raybies]

ingles contract might be the benchmark for a Simmons deal... sigh. contract gonna have to be backloaded to match. 8.5,8.5,16,16 thats about 50 mill

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[sasaint]

Not sure where you get that from. Austin is much more a Spurs supporting town than Mavs town. Not even close.

II don't think most people in Austin pay much attention at all to the NBA. The Longhorns don't play in that league.

[raybies]

dang 15..

[baseline bum]

Iggy goes to Houston and GS is going after Gay. No problems, we have Mills.

Wait until you see what we get for Aldridge, it'll make the Mills signing look great.

[GSH]

I'm not saying anything other than Austin is my favorite city in texas. Has nothing to do with drugs. The main draw to me is the music scene and a real melting pot of folks. Just a weird and different city like Portland. Asheville, nc, etc.

Music is more important to me than basketball. I only travel to San Antonio for play off games. Mainly finals games. On the days between games I shoot up to austin to hang out.

I'm on vacation and just trying to have the best time possible. It is purely a selfish reason on my part. Not speaking to player preferences.

If I was an nba player I'd go all magnum pi and just take helicopter up there to avoid that traffic.


I was giving you a little shit. The music in Austin is as good and as eclectic as it gets anywhere. And if you haven't been to the Continental Ballroom and listened to Jon Dee Graham, you should.

I know the shortage of nightlife (especially first-rate titty bars) is a negative for some FA's. I don't think it's anywhere nearly the problem some people here claim. But what the hell do I know about what drives NBA players? :lol I agree though, that chopper/limo service for a select clientele would probably be a good business.

[baseline bum]

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He's a retard if he turns that down unless Houston can somehow clear enough space to give him 3 years, $60 million or more.

[raybies]

btw some people complaining about Mills and I confess I did a lil myself, but so far Cleveland's offseason aquisition is Calderon... and they are trying to dump Shumpert. They are in cap hell.

[Ron Swanson]

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Looks like his plan worked.

[baseline bum]

Then again... a 45 minute commute to Austin, to enjoy all those things, is probably shorter than the daily commutes in LA. If they can drive an hour in LA, why can't they drive 45 minutes to Austin if they live here?

LOL I couldn't believe it the first time I went to an Angels game in Anaheim and the drive from my apartment on the westside of LA was 3 hours one way. People who haven't lived in LA don't know what traffic is. :lol

[rastaspur]

I was giving you a little shit. The music in Austin is as good and as eclectic as it gets anywhere. And if you haven't been to the Continental Ballroom and listened to Jon Dee Graham, you should.

I know the shortage of nightlife (especially first-rate titty bars) is a negative for some FA's. I don't think it's anywhere nearly the problem some people here claim. But what the hell do I know about what drives NBA players? :lol I agree though, that chopper/limo service for a select clientele would probably be a good business.

The bar scene and music scene in austin is spectacular. Got hot college chicks, hipsters,etc. Every walk of life.

I listen to anything and everything except commercial country music. Blues, jazz, bluegrass, folk, afrobeat, rock, southern rock, funk, rap, new Orleans style big brass band.

Not to shit on country music fans, but I don't dig that shit at all. I like old school shit like Johnny cash, willie, Don williams, etc.

[Chinook]

Wait until you see what we get for Aldridge, it'll make the Mills signing look great.

Pretty sure he isn't going to be moved. People took a story from Stephen A Smith of all people and treated it as gospel because they wanted it to be true. LMA may not be happy, and the Spurs may well be disappointed in him. But fans started thinking the Spurs were desperate to get rid of him, and it just doesn't look to be the case.

So far, the only news we got in terms of how the Spurs valued LMA or Green was that the Spurs were asking for a high price for Danny and were offering LMA for a top-five pick. Accepting those at face value, people treating those guys are goners never really made sense, especially not straight dumps.

[sasaint]

The bar scene and music scene in austin is spectacular. Got hot college chicks, hipsters,etc. Every walk of life.

I listen to anything and everything except commercial country music. Blues, jazz, bluegrass, folk, afrobeat, rock, southern rock, funk, rap, new Orleans style big brass band.

Not to shit on country music fans, but I don't dig that shit at all. I like old school shit like Johnny cash, willie, Don williams, etc.

I'm about 95% with you. We could hang. Agreed - no modern country music, which is really just canned pop/rock sung with a twang.

[baseline bum]

Pretty sure he isn't going to be moved. People took a story from Stephen A Smith of all people and treated it as gospel because they wanted it to be true. LMA may not be happy, and the Spurs may well be disappointed in him. But fans started thinking the Spurs were desperate to get rid of him, and it just doesn't look to be the case.

So far, the only news we got in terms of how the Spurs valued LMA or Green was that the Spurs were asking for a high price for Danny and were offering LMA for a top-five pick. Accepting those at face value, people treating those guys are goners never really made sense, especially not straight dumps.

SAS is an ass, but what he reported was Aldridge wanted out, which is hard to think was wrong when he unfollowed the Spurs and deleted all his tweets from when he signed here in 2015. Even shitheads like Smith can be right some of the time.

[marinoman]

Pretty sure he isn't going to be moved. People took a story from Stephen A Smith of all people and treated it as gospel because they wanted it to be true. LMA may not be happy, and the Spurs may well be disappointed in him. But fans started thinking the Spurs were desperate to get rid of him, and it just doesn't look to be the case.

So far, the only news we got in terms of how the Spurs valued LMA or Green was that the Spurs were asking for a high price for Danny and were offering LMA for a top-five pick. Accepting those at face value, people treating those guys are goners never really made sense, especially not straight dumps.
So Stephen A. Smith costed us Chris Paul

[picnroll]

And it appears his house is up for sale.

[rastaspur]

LOL I couldn't believe it the first time I went to an Angels game in Anaheim and the drive from my apartment on the westside of LA was 3 hours one way. People who haven't lived in LA don't know what traffic is. :lol

It's insane. I missed a flight one time cause I got stuck in Malibu. Shit just shut down on the road and it took hours to get to the airport. Moving at a speed of a few feet per minute it seemed.

[rjv]

Austin is a gentrified, pseudo-liberal, expensive city that has lost so much of what once made it great. Very white too. It has driven out its African- American demographic and diluted its Hispanic culture. Even SXSW is corporate now. The drag is an homage to capitalism.

[GSH]

Pretty sure he isn't going to be moved. People took a story from Stephen A Smith of all people and treated it as gospel because they wanted it to be true. LMA may not be happy, and the Spurs may well be disappointed in him. But fans started thinking the Spurs were desperate to get rid of him, and it just doesn't look to be the case.

So far, the only news we got in terms of how the Spurs valued LMA or Green was that the Spurs were asking for a high price for Danny and were offering LMA for a top-five pick. Accepting those at face value, people treating those guys are goners never really made sense, especially not straight dumps.


I never thought it was likely that the Spurs would get what they needed to trade him. Right now, teams are all feeling optimistic, and trying to hit FA home runs. I think there's a chance of the Spurs moving him mid-season, if things shake out right. If LMA plays like it's a contract year AND if the Spurs' season isn't looking good, there may be a team or two that think they could contend, if they only had one more piece. But if LMA is playing like it's a contract year, the Spurs will still probably be looking at another 50 win season, so they still won't be dumping him. I guess if he pouts and plays like shit, it would be hard to dump him anyway.

[dylankerouac]

What was the talk on Milsap? I guess he's too expensive?

[rjv]

What was the talk on Milsap? I guess he's too expensive? wants near 30 mil.

[Chinook]

SAS is an ass, but what he reported was Aldridge wanted out, which is hard to think was wrong when he unfollowed the Spurs and deleted all his tweets from when he signed here in 2015. Even shitheads like Smith can be right some of the time.

I'm not even saying that he was wrong, but the point is that people took his word and created a whole reality based around it. LMA has apparently been unhappy for more than a year. This isn't new. He was unhappy in Portland and still played well. It wasn't a crisis situation. For all we know, though, LMA could have deleted all that stuff because the Spurs were going to inquire about trades (feeling like the season was shot with Tony hurt -- because Pop seems to still think that), assuming the trade was going to go through. If he and Green never get traded we likely won't ever find out the real story.

I was one of those folks checking out the lottery, excited for whom the team might get. But people are talking about salary-dumping him now, and that just doesn't make sense in a world where people are fighting over giving Joe Ingles $15 Million a year.

[dylankerouac]

wants near 30 mil.

Bew

[Mr. Body]

wants near 30 mil.

Wow. For a player who... ain't all that good.

[rastaspur]

Austin is a gentrified, pseudo-liberal, expensive city that has lost so much of what once made it great. Very white too. It has driven out its African- American demographic and diluted its Hispanic culture. Even SXSW is corporate now. The drag is an homage to capitalism.

I kind of noticed that trend on my last trip. Putting up all those swanky condos. Saw alot more uppity corporate types.

Almost kicked an Ari Spears wannabe's ass for intentionally throwing his drink on my lady. The big ass bouncer convinced me otherwise when he grabbed my damn throat and escorted me out.

He was hitting on her and she told him to fuck off.

Granted, I went apeshit, but the other person should have been booted and not me. Guess he only saw my reaction.

[GSH]

Wow. For a player who... ain't all that good.

Milsap is under-sized, and I've thought every single year that he was going to fade. And every year he's proved me wrong. The sonofabitch is good. I don't know about $30M good, but saying he isn't good is just silly.

He learned how to pass much better, he learned how to defend without drawing as many whistles. And he gets to the line about 6 times per 36, which means that he's good enough to force defenders to foul him.

[Mr. Body]

Milsap is under-sized, and I've thought every single year that he was going to fade. And every year he's proved me wrong. The sonofabitch is good. I don't know about $30M good, but saying he isn't good is just silly.

He learned how to pass much better, he learned how to defend without drawing as many whistles. And he gets to the line about 6 times per 36, which means that he's good enough to force defenders to foul him.

You're talking about a power forward who shot 44.2% last year and whose eFG% was worse than Tony Parker's, a player who gets a lot of stick around here. He's 31 and those numbers aren't going to get better. His rebounding numbers are dropping, too.

[GSH]

You're talking about a power forward who shot 44.2% last year and whose eFG% was worse than Tony Parker's, a player who gets a lot of stick around here. He's 31 and those numbers aren't going to get better. His rebounding numbers are dropping, too.


You do understand that... oh fuck it. You're right. Milsap sucks. Nobody will want him at any price, and he'll be D-League fodder from here on out.

Carry on.

[bklynspursfan]

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[Mr. Body]

You do understand that... oh fuck it. You're right. Milsap sucks. Nobody will want him at any price, and he'll be D-League fodder from here on out.

Carry on.

I said he's not that good. Sorry to hurt your feelings.

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[TimDunkem]

To Mr.Fat Body - Danny Green > Paul Millsap

[Mr. Body]

To Mr.Fat Body - Danny Green > Paul Millsap

Here's a way to look at it, although it may be too complicated for your brain:

Danny Green at $10 million a year >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Millsap at $30 a year

If you can't get that you truly are retarded.

[MaNu4Tres]

Bell is garbage :lol

Says... you?

Cool.

[AFBlue]

Iggy back to Warriors, per Woj

[SAGirl]

ingles contract might be the benchmark for a Simmons deal... sigh. contract gonna have to be backloaded to match. 8.5,8.5,16,16 thats about 50 mill Ingles is a better shooter. although he's older he was more significant to that Utah team than JSimms, closed out games too. The shooting alone makes him more valuable. Was also a very solid secondary playmaker and fit really well with the team's stars. He was an integral part of their best lineup. Iggy got an offer for $15 mill x 3 years.. but obviously Iggy is a veteran with a longer track record, played more minutes, closed out games, also was a part of the GSW best lineup. Simmons is obviously not in that category. He's a tier below those guys right now in terms of role evaluation. One can evaluate what he did in the postseason, but that was 2 weeks. When you look at him during the rest of the season, he wasn't that. If anything his lack of shooting depresses his value... Let's hope he stays in a reasonable range... bc I don't think Spurs will pay him $13-15 mill per season like Iggy was demanding for example. That is why I think him and the team are at a stalemate. Maybe he doesn't get what he seeks in the open market and comes back. That is probably what PATFO is hoping... but if he gets a poison pill contract, it's something that gives you pause. Specially bc Spurs are already paying Mills 12 mill and are going to pay Pau as well. They also have a somewhat similar wing in Hanga, who can defend and is a playmaker. Then you add in White, Blossomgame, etc. I thought the Danny trade was meant to balance out this kind of contract to JSimms but all this is speculation frankly. I'd like him back, but I will be surprised if he's back at a price that will pay him $ 15-16 mill per year.

[raybies]

iggy back to gs

[TimDunkem]

Here's a way to look at it, although it may be too complicated for your brain:

Danny Green at $10 million a year >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Millsap at $30 a year

If you can't get that you truly are retarded.
What fucking hyperbole. Leave it to Mr.Fat Body to come up with some stupid shit like this. :lmao

[LakerHater]

3 yrs 45 mil for Iggy to sign back

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[LakerHater]

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[cjw]

I don't even see Manu and/or Hanga in your list ... which can explain the tweet of why Hanga would only join the team if Manu retired. They could always make Blossomgate or Forbes a 2 way contract and Milutinov may not be scheduled to join the team this summer.

Agree, all those things show how unlikely it is Forbes sticks. Especially with Mills resigning.

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[raybies]

Ingles is a better shooter. although he's older he was more significant to that Utah team than JSimms, closed out games too. The shooting alone makes him more valuable. Was also a very solid secondary playmaker and fit really well with the team's stars. He was an integral part of their best lineup. Iggy got an offer for $15 mill x 3 years.. but obviously Iggy is a veteran with a longer track record, played more minutes, closed out games, also was a part of the GSW best lineup. Simmons is obviously not in that category. He's a tier below those guys right now in terms of role evaluation. One can evaluate what he did in the postseason, but that was 2 weeks. When you look at him during the rest of the season, he wasn't that. If anything his lack of shooting depresses his value... Let's hope he stays in a reasonable range... bc I don't think Spurs will pay him $13-15 mill per season like Iggy was demanding for example. That is why I think him and the team are at a stalemate. Maybe he doesn't get what he seeks in the open market and comes back. That is probably what PATFO is hoping... but if he gets a poison pill contract, it's something that gives you pause. Specially bc Spurs are already paying Mills 12 mill and are going to pay Pau as well. They also have a somewhat similar wing in Hanga, who can defend and is a playmaker. Then you add in White, Blossomgame, etc. I thought the Danny trade was meant to balance out this kind of contract to JSimms but all this is speculation frankly. I'd like him back, but I will be surprised if he's back at a price that will pay him $ 15-16 mill per year.
Simmons didn't dominate the ball until the playoffs. More usage = breakout for him basically. He's not great off the ball, but when given the chance as a playmaker he succeeded in biggest way. During the season he didn't really play make cause he was low on the pecking order. But I'm sorry Simmons is more valuable in my book. Ingles can't be a sixth man like Simmons can potentially. Still i need to see more with Simmons but he's ready for more responsibility.

[gambit1990]

san antonio has a sort of "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality/energy.

wouldn't recommend anyone to visit tbh. the riverwalk smells like shit and you won't wanna spend more than 45 minutes at the alamo.

not san antonio's fault but outside of downtown austin is zilker park, then greenbelt, and just a little further is mckinney falls :tu

pros for living in sa: cost of living is low, traffic is really not that bad

[cjw]

Gasol and Aldridge the only bigs unless they also bring an untested Milutinov?

MLE or LLE likely go to a big. I was outlining who was under contract to show how it's unlikely all of Manu, Hanga, Miluntov, Forbes, etc are around.

But yes, don't expect another big beyond those three. More Anderson and Bertans at the 4 against bench units.

[Darius Bieber]

Yeah, the Spurs aren't getting any FA's. San Antonio is just not a hot destination for FAs. We'll basically see the same team as last year, with a few nobodies being signed.

[raybies]

i expect some moves from the spurs soon. i think they were waiting on Iggy. and by moves I mean staying above the cap and resigning guys

[baseline bum]

Austin is a gentrified, pseudo-liberal, expensive city that has lost so much of what once made it great. Very white too. It has driven out its African- American demographic and diluted its Hispanic culture. Even SXSW is corporate now. The drag is an homage to capitalism.

So you can't get a blowjob and some rock cocaine on E. 12th Street any more? :depressed

[marinoman]

There's really no one left to go after for us except Simmons or gay.

[steeledl]

lol you nigga been F5ing all day for some good news.

[SAGirl]

Simmons didn't dominate the ball until the playoffs. More usage = breakout for him basically. He's not great off the ball, but when given the chance as a playmaker he succeeded in biggest way. During the season he didn't really play make cause he was low on the pecking order. But I'm sorry Simmons is more valuable in my book. Ingles can't be a sixth man like Simmons can potentially. Still i need to see more with Simmons but he's ready for more responsibility.
He wasn't efficiently scoring with what he did in all honesty... He just wasn't and for all his playmaking... he really didn't have as many assists as others in the team. I wouldn't pay him that much... and frankly if you did that, then you needed to let Mills go. Either Mills is your 6th man and you pay him like it or JSimms is. Mills just got paid so the Spurs kind of already made their choice. That is how I see it.

Edit: and maybe they made the wrong choice which is at least in part why so many are whining about the Mills contract. Argument can be made that you can find guys undrafted that are 6' tall and can hit a few 3 pt shots (poorly in the playoffs) while leaving others to defend and playmake.

[FkLA]

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Haha is that actually my nigga Kawhi?

[mo7888]

A couple interesting things out there (that I'm sure we won't take advantage of) market for hill may be drying up and his price could become reasonable...also, Detroit is now hard capped and can only match an offer sheet for KCP for around 19M unless they clear salary. Lastly, very little coming from the Galinari camp, they may have a deal to return to Denver if milsaps signs and then again they may not...it bears watching..

[marinoman]

lol you nigga been F5ing all day for some good news.
Team stream app from bleacher report, highly recommended, I find out shit via alerts on my phone then look at discussions here

[bklynspursfan]

Haha is that actually my nigga Kawhi?

Someone posted on Twitter he walked by him in a mall. Looks like him, the hands/tattoos look close.

He's gon wreck shit next season

[raybies]

Haha is that actually my nigga Kawhi?
looking like sasquatch in this photo

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[ducks]

Spurs had a offer

[Crazymaddopeyo]

So depressing. What a boring season it'll be.

[raybies]

Spurs had a offer
Now i think they look at Gay if the rumors were true, but other than that who else? Korver, Tucker? Rather bring team back than that. Korver might be nice if we can keep Green too. Have options and I'd only take Korver on a 1 or 2 year deal.

[FkLA]

Someone posted on Twitter he walked by him in a mall. Looks like him, the hands/tattoos look close.

He's gon wreck shit next season

2018 MVP honoring Manu's last year by letting the locks flow like it's '05 :claw

[SAGirl]

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[steeledl]

Yeah, not interested in the Warriors 5th best player that is ageing.

[raybies]

good info here
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[steeledl]

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What a fucking bitch ass team. Niggas got 2 top 4 players. 4 top 15 players and are getting Iggy and Livingston on a discount.

Yep, this is fun.

[sasaint]

A couple interesting things out there (that I'm sure we won't take advantage of) market for hill may be drying up and his price could become reasonable...also, Detroit is now hard capped and can only match an offer sheet for KCP for around 19M unless they clear salary. Lastly, very little coming from the Galinari camp, they may have a deal to return to Denver if milsaps signs and then again they may not...it bears watching..

So? We would rather use most of our cap space on Patty as a 4th PG on the roster. I would really like to have KCP (though $19-20MM seems prohibitive), or especially Millsap.

[raybies]

looking like we resign our guys and then have the MLE

[steeledl]

I wish someone else would just offer Pau a decent contract so I never have to see his old pale ass again.

[Crazymaddopeyo]

looking like we resign our guys and then have the MLE
Sounds like every offseason we have.

[raybies]

Bring Boris back tbh in the Horry role for the room exeption

[TimDunkem]

I wish someone else would just offer Pau a decent contract so I never have to see his old pale ass again.

[ducks]

Wonder if spurs tell Simpson they could go after gay if the offer is above 10

[raybies]

tucker to houston

[steeledl]

Wonder if spurs tell Simpson they could go after gay if the offer is above 10

Who is Simpson? Homer? Bart? Maggie?

[raybies]

I guess Gay is going to OKC... so anybody worth getting?

[bklynspursfan]

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[TimDunkem]

tucker to houston
RC must be pissed. :lol

[steeledl]

tucker to houston

They have the best squad to compete w. the Dubs. Still, not much of a chance.

[raybies]

tucker got the full mle from houston

[SAGirl]

Spurs still have to find one center in the bargain bin somewhere.

[steeledl]

Spurs still have to find one center in the bargain bin somewhere.

It doesn't matter. Just fill the roster as cheaply as you can

[SAGirl]

Bring Boris back tbh in the Horry role for the room exeption

No. he's done. He will eat minutes for Davis Bertans. He will have to play center and he's not ideal as a center who doesn't rebound next to Davis who also doesn't rebound. e if you want rebounding you better play Kyle Anderson tbh.

Boris doesn't fit with the other "bigs" in this team and we know LaDivamarcus doesn't want to play center. He makes Kyle and Davis play center when they play next to him... etc. No boris with this new roster no. .

Maybe Reed. Spurs need a real center. Dedmon again?

[objective]

RC must be pissed. :lol

British or American version?

I believe either or both.

[MaNu4Tres]

No. he's done. He will eat minutes for Davis Bertans. He will have to play center and he's not ideal as a center who doesn't rebound next to Davis who also doesn't rebound. e if you want rebounding you better play Kyle Anderson tbh.

Boris doesn't fit with the other "bigs" in this team and we know LaDivamarcus doesn't want to play center. He makes Kyle and Davis play center when they play next to him... etc. No boris with this new roster no. .

Maybe Reed. Spurs need a real center. Dedmon again?

Withey, Black, or Splitter for the minimum after the dust settles.

I'd roll with Murray, Green, Kawhi, Anderson, LA to start.

Mills, Manu? - White? - Hanga?, Simmons?, Bertans, Pau off bench

Forbes, Blossomgame, Withey? Splitter? Black?, TP

[raybies]

No. he's done. He will eat minutes for Davis Bertans. He will have to play center and he's not ideal as a center who doesn't rebound next to Davis who also doesn't rebound. e if you want rebounding you better play Kyle Anderson tbh.

Boris doesn't fit with the other "bigs" in this team and we know LaDivamarcus doesn't want to play center. He makes Kyle and Davis play center when they play next to him... etc. No boris with this new roster no. .

Maybe Reed. Spurs need a real center. Dedmon again?
i was being obnoxious, but the thought is like, welp we bringing the team back, why not Boris and Tiago...

[TimDunkem]

British or American version?

I believe either or both.
LOL I was wondering if someone would come in and make this joke. Exactly why I phrased it that way. Nicely done.

And, to answer your question...Both. :lmao

[raybies]

Withey, Black, or Splitter for the minimum after the dust settles.

I'd roll with Murray, Green, Kawhi, Anderson, LA to start.

Mills, Manu? - White? - Hanga?, Simmons?, Bertans, Pau off bench

At this point, I'm fine with it...

[cd98]

RC and Ainge. Well done. Bravo. Excited for next season.

[Snaq O'Meal]

RC must be pissed. :lol

He's sure pissed drunk.

[TimDunkem]

i was being obnoxious, but the thought is like, welp we bringing the team back, why not Boris and Tiago...
We should re-sign Baynes too and go after Cory Joseph. :lol

[raybies]

We should re-sign Baynes too and go after Cory Joseph. :lol
:lol make a trade for Boban so we can have the debates if he should start again

[TimDunkem]

He's sure pissed drunk.
https://speakerdata2.s3.amazonaws.com/photo/image/818735/442889022.jpg

[TimDunkem]

:lol make a trade for Boban so we can have the debates if he should start again
Play Boban! :cry

[objective]

Spurs still have to find one center in the bargain bin somewhere.

Splitter for the minimum works

[GSH]

RC and Ainge. Well done. Bravo. Excited for next season.


Ainge is the one who ought to go into hiding. They had picks and players out the ass to get something done with. I bet that obnoxious bastard tried to play hard-ass. "This is our best offer, take it or leave it." and still thought he could come back later and negotiate.

[Crazymaddopeyo]

What do you think? We get the fourth seed in the west now?

[sasaint]

Withey, Black, or Splitter for the minimum after the dust settles.

I'd roll with Murray, Green, Kawhi, Anderson, LA to start.

Mills, Manu? - White? - Hanga?, Simmons?, Bertans, Pau off bench

Forbes, Blossomgame, Withey? Splitter? Black?, TP

You pegged my opening day SL, and my excitement to see Murray with the A-team will almost match my disappointment at seeing LMA still on the roster.

[GSH]

We should re-sign Baynes too and go after Cory Joseph. :lol

:lol make a trade for Boban so we can have the debates if he should start again


I'm having a flashback to Scola threads. Stop this before it gets out of hand. :lol

[cd98]

TBH, Ridding ourselves of Parker's contract would be the cold, business move. But it would've probably gotten us one of these guys that have signed. That said, Spurs are fighting hard to be a player's team. Do they lose respect of the players if they drop a player with Parker's franchise history bc he got a bad injury? It's a little like John Edwards cheating on his wife because she got cancer. I do think for the Spurs it's on principle and not just for show. But I also think they couldn't talk themselves out of it given Parker is working hard to return.

[TimDunkem]

Everyone in the league but the Spurs believe that getting rid of TP would've been the smart move. Hell, if he were moved, I wouldn't have minded the Mills signing as much...Too bad loyalty trumps titles here.

[cjw]

Not sure which is more of a joke. The Warriors getting discounts on these players or boxing. I'm not even a Pacman guy but how was that a unanimous decision??

[rjv]

Not sure which is more of a joke. The Warriors getting discounts on these players or boxing. I'm not even a Pacman guy but how was that a unanimous decision?? The 9th alone should have been the clincher. Manny gracious in defeat.

[Budkin]

At this point I'd just be happy if we got splitter back. This is one of the worst off seasons ever.

[Russ]

They have the best squad to compete w. the Dubs. Still, not much of a chance.

I think you don't have enough faith in D'Antonio and CP3 and the Houston Rockets, for that matter.

The last time D'Antonio put together a super team with an imported point guard was with Nash and Kobe in LA. How did that work out?

The last time Houston put together a super team was with Dwight Howard (also a part of D'Antoni's super team in LA). Nada.

Houston has long history of this. Dwight Howard, CP3, Charles Barkley, Scottie Pippen -- washed up superstars.

I just don't see it.

[raybies]

I'm having a flashback to Scola threads. Stop this before it gets out of hand. :lol
he a FA?

[raybies]

I think you don't have enough faith in D'Antonio and CP3 and the Houston Rockets, for that matter.

The last time D'Antonio put together a super team with an imported point guard was with Nash and Kobe in LA. How did that work out?

The last time Houston put together a super team was with Dwight Howard (also a part of D'Antoni's super team in LA). Nada.

Houston has long history of this. Dwight Howard, CP3, Charles Barkley, Scottie Pippen -- washed up superstars.

I just don't see it.
I ain't worried tbh
As of right now
Warriors
Spurs
Rockets
OKC
Jazz
Pups
Portland
Clippers

i think im missing someone

[raybies]

wow just wow
881380856635326464

[raybies]

dont know why everybody leaving like an exodus from the east

[TimDunkem]

Just fucking merge the conferences, ffs. Shit isn't fair. :lol

[cjw]

wow just wow
881380856635326464

So the MLE (most the Rockets could offer) while Toronto offered more with his Bird Rights.

Wtf are the Spurs going to get for the MLE? Pathetic they're not in the conversation on these better guys.

[LakerHater]

RC was the only one that showed up for Iggy!
I thnk Iggy was honest w RC w that this was jus a leverage meeting!!

[SAGirl]

Withey, Black, or Splitter for the minimum after the dust settles.

I'd roll with Murray, Green, Kawhi, Anderson, LA to start.

Mills, Manu? - White? - Hanga?, Simmons?, Bertans, Pau off bench

Forbes, Blossomgame, Withey? Splitter? Black?, TP

sounds very realistic based on what they are doing.

I like Withey.
I like tiago too but he's never healthy.

I expect mad scientist Pop.

I doubt Lamarcus is happy with being a center all season... in fact I wonder if that had somewhat to do with his desire to get traded ASAP. He didn't play well with either Pau or Dedmon. I suppose part of that evaluation at the end of the season had to be that the team had to diversify lineups etc and he needed to be more like Timmy who was a PF in name at the end of his career who provided a lot of center things. Something that was seldom discussed was that last season, Timmy and Lamarcus didn't play well together either, they got in each others way etc. When Timmy got injured around late December, January, Pop experimented with Dworst and at times Kyle got the start at the 4 next to Lamarcus. That was when Lamarcus really took off and played like an Allstar. He really should be transitioning to play as a center.

In fact, this season, Pop stayed big the entire season, 2 traditional bigs. Lamarcus didn't really play that well. He didn't really fit with Pau or Dedmon that well either. It may very well be that he will fit better as the center with a stretch 4 who either playmakes a lot like Kyle or who will be shooting the 3 like Davis and opening up space for others too, letting LMA play more in the paint. I wonder if this kind of thing is what triggered him asking for a trade.

[Nathan89]

wow just wow
881380856635326464:wow

[Nathan89]

RC was the only one that showed up for Iggy!
I thnk Iggy was honest w RC w that this was jus a leverage meeting!!

We almost certainly didn't offer what the Warriors did. He was never going to come here.

[SAGirl]

You pegged my opening day SL, and my excitement to see Murray with the A-team will almost match my disappointment at seeing LMA still on the roster.
not going to lie sasaint:
this was hilarious!:toast

[tdunk21]

how much capspace do the warriors have to be offering these deals? And they still have to re-sign KD

[LakerHater]

how much capspace do the warriors have to be offering these deals? And they still have to re-sign KD
was jus wonderin that!
They must be well over the cap now!

[Mnky]

was jus wonderin that!
They must be well over the cap now!

Their owner is expected to pay about a quarter billion dollars in luxury tax. Will be close to a billion with a couple years.

[Snaq O'Meal]

how much capspace do the warriors have to be offering these deals? And they still have to re-sign KD

They only need to retain KD and Curry. The rest of them are tradeable assets that can fetch them some younger players plus high picks to safeguard their future.

[cutewizard]

Guys, may I ask: Why is San Antonio an undesirable location??

sorry, Ive never lived outside my country.......just wanted to know......

(forgive my for my ignorance)

[Emperor]

Guys, may I ask: Why is San Antonio an undesirable location??

sorry, Ive never lived outside my country.......just wanted to know......

(forgive my for my ignorance)

It doesn't have quite the nightlife as LA, NYC, Miami etc. No beach, not as many beautiful looking women as compared to the cities I mentioned. But it is very cultural historic city just not too popular with NBA free agents.

[dabom]

If going out every day is your thing, we don't want ya. :lol

[Ice009]

If going out every day is your thing, we don't want ya. :lol

lol. That is 100% true. If that is their main thing, then I don't want them on my team.

[Spurs9]

Houston is gonna be fun to watch.

[cutewizard]

It doesn't have quite the nightlife as LA, NYC, Miami etc. No beach, not as many beautiful looking women as compared to the cities I mentioned. But it is very cultural historic city just not too popular with NBA free agents.

-----------------------------

Thank you Sir. Exactly my kind of city.......

[cutewizard]

Has Luis Scola retired??

just asking

[RodNIc91]

Is it possible they go after tyreke evans?

[mo7888]

I'm probably delusional ...but despite the evidence to the contrary, I think we are still going to target a combo guard or wing player this week. The only place I see for Hill is Denver but if they sign milsap then they are going to have to choose between galo and hill. They can't do both unless they trade chandler and another piece. So I think we are just waiting to see who gets a left out that we can leverage for a cheaper contract. Like I said, I'm probably delusional..

[Blackjack]

Is it possible they go after tyreke evans?

Whatever happened to that guy? That dude had some real potential.

[DPG21920]

Whatever happened to that guy? That dude had some real potential.

Injuries mostly and never developed a shot. Both of those really limited him, but he still does what he does well (drive and finish - uses his size).

[noles1983]

Guys, may I ask: Why is San Antonio an undesirable location??

sorry, Ive never lived outside my country.......just wanted to know......

(forgive my for my ignorance)

We do not have many black people, tbh.

[DPG21920]

Houston has had a really good off season. That team has definitely improved and they should be damn good if CP/Harden figure things out.

Losing Harrell & Nene could hurt though and they have very little big man depth.

[Blackjack]

Injuries mostly and never developed a shot. Both of those really limited him, but he still does what he does well (drive and finish - uses his size).

Any character issues? Someone worth a flyer?

[RD2191]

Any updates on Lee/Simms/Dedmon?

[ducks]

Pj hustles but is short

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
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3m

Sources: Rudy Gay is leaving OKC visit today, sides still searching for financial path to deal. Sign and trade with Kings remains difficult.

[AFBlue]

.

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn

Gay is still part of the Clippers focus, too. Clippers plan to meet with Danilo Gallinari and Gay over next two days.

[duncan2150]

Houston has had a really good off season. That team has definitely improved and they should be damn good if CP/Harden figure things out.

Losing Harrell & Nene could hurt though and they have very little big man depth.

I'm not that high on them, Paul Is a really. Good addition but tucker Is really bad and They loose Williams, beverley, dekker, nene, harell....

[tbdog]

Houston has had a really good off season. That team has definitely improved and they should be damn good if CP/Harden figure things out.

Losing Harrell & Nene could hurt though and they have very little big man depth.


They building a team for the Warriors. Small ball, high offense, shooters. They might struggle against big teams like twolves, spurs if we stay big which I think we won't.

[buujness]

Rockets will likely play directly into the Warriors' hands. We'll see if they allow CP3 to dictate the pace, but that seems unlikely to me given D'Antoni's preferences in that area, and if they do decide to play fast (as D'Antoni wants), then Golden State will destroy them utterly.

[DPG21920]

Any character issues? Someone worth a flyer?

No issues that I know of. Probably worth a look and someone I was hoping they would target last season to play the Gino role (albeit with fit concerns due to lack of shooting). But definitely someone that can drive and still has big games every once and a while.

[tbdog]

No issues that I know of. Probably worth a look and someone I was hoping they would target last season to play the Gino role (albeit with fit concerns due to lack of shooting). But definitely someone that can drive and still has big games every once and a while.

Are you referring to Evans? Because Simmons is our Manu replacement.

[DPG21920]

Are you referring to Evans? Because Simmons is our Manu replacement.

Spurs may very well still be looking at guards. White is not a sure thing, Manu may be gone and Simmons is not a lock to return

[SAGirl]

Chuck Miketinac (http://www.spurstalk.com/MaxSportsSA?p=s)
@MaxSportsSA (http://www.spurstalk.com/MaxSportsSA?p=s)




Manu Ginobili's agent, Herb Rudoy, tells Max Sports Manu STILL hasn't made up his mind on whether to return for another season.

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