Official 2017 Offseason Thread

[Chinook]

New Warriors offensive strategy: Have Swaggy take Mills one-on-one for 20 minutes. How ever will Pop adjust to Nick Young getting a bunch of touches?

[dabom]

I don't remember young doing shit in any playoffs. :lol

Same like houston guards shitting in the playoffs. :lol

[dabom]

New Warriors offensive strategy: Have Swaggy take Mills one-on-one for 20 minutes. How ever will Pop adjust to Nick Young getting a bunch of touches?

:lol

Can someone tell me how many playoff games swaggy faggot has played? :lol

[dabom]

GSW can get any bum and make them look good. They have 4 allstars. :lol

[dabom]

People would be laughing at us for signing swaggy faggot, but GSW does it and it's a great signing. :lmao

And no, swaggy faggot would not make the Spurs better. :lmao

[MaNu4Tres]

:lmao It's all about the situation they lucked into and their ownership. That shit sells itself at this point. If you're a shameless coward, who covets attention and a guaranteed championship and want to parade around pretending to be a real champion, that's the place for you . . . unfortunately, that encompasses a lot of the league.

It's clear they're going out of their way to sign bad reputation/reclamation projects, so that when they win, Myers/Kerr, can get credit for "their culture turning them around and bringing out the best in them".

Young over Clark/McCaw as the backup SG only makes Mills all the more unplayable against them, since it removes his one safe hiding place because Young can just shoot over him.



It really is a mind fuck how the Spurs paid 50 million the first second of FA to lock up a back up PG, a week after they drafted a back up PG.

Patty will get eaten up again against Livingston, McCaw, Young. How long will it be before they realize Patty is expendable? And will White be a better matchup at the PG position off the bench vs. the Warriors by the end of the season?

[tonight...you]

But so is their payroll. That NBA salary "cap"! :lol
Like you would be complaining if Spurs ownership had to pay a billy and got 2-3 more championships out of it...
I sincerely doubt it.

[picnroll]

Young over Clark/McCaw as the backup SG only makes Mills all the more unplayable against them, since it removes his one safe hiding place because Young can just shoot over him.
I've got a chihuahua that can shoot over Mills.

[tonight...you]

I've got a chihuahua that can shoot over Mills.
Link, to amuse me.

[Hoops Czar]

I don't remember young doing shit in any playoffs. :lol

Same like houston guards shitting in the playoffs. :lol

He's only been in the playoffs twice (2008, 2012).

[dabom]

He's only been in the playoffs twice (2008, 2012).

:lol

[sasaint]

Like you would be complaining if Spurs ownership had to pay a billy and got 2-3 more championships out of it...
I sincerely doubt it.

Dude, I just want a level playing field like the NFL's, not the labyrinthine mess that is the NBA's pseudo-cap that a team with deep pockets (i.e. big market) can "game" as easily as Harden getting an and-1 on a three ball.

[TD 21]

New Warriors offensive strategy: Have Swaggy take Mills one-on-one for 20 minutes. How ever will Pop adjust to Nick Young getting a bunch of touches?

Yeah, that's exactly what I said. :rolleyes

Obviously, it doesn't change what the result will be, it just makes a key player all the more unplayable against them and once again begs the question: given that, why was he prioritized, when they're supposedly still trying to contend?



The back up point guard they just drafted will be a better matchup vs. Livingston/McCaw/Young than Mills. Yet, they just locked in another back up PG (Mills) to a 4 yr deal worth 50 million a week after they drafted a back up PG who matches up better vs. Warriors bench.

It really is a mind fuck how the Spurs paid 50 million the first second of FA to lock up a back up PG, a week after they drafted a back up PG.

Patty will get eaten up again against Livingston, McCaw, Young. How long will it be before they realize Patty is expendable? And will White be a better matchup at the PG position off the bench vs. the Warriors by the end of the season?

The only logical conclusion one can draw is, like the apologists, they're content and have seemingly given up even trying to contend, despite having a top 3 player, who's 2 years away from being a UFA, in a league where the majority of stars are now congregating.

[Joseph Kony]

Faggy P is such a terrible pickup :lol are people really saying this a good signing? :lol I believe they used their MLE on this dude, which means they won't be getting dedmon which is good for us tbh.

[tbdog]

Monta Ellis waived, any takers? If we didn't have a hundred guards, hell yeah. I would trade Green for a decent young PF though.

[Dex]

Faggy P is such a terrible pickup :lol are people really saying this a good signing? :lol I believe they used their MLE on this dude, which means they won't be getting dedmon which is good for us tbh.

Hopefully he goes all Kevin Martin for them. I'd be content with giving any shots to Young if it means taking them away from their 4 All-Stars.

[tonight...you]

Dude, I just want a level playing field like the NFL's, not the labyrinthine mess that is the NBA's pseudo-cap that a team with deep pockets (i.e. big market) can "game" as easily as Harden getting an and-1 on a three ball.
Then you're fantasizing. Good to know. Get back to the real and understand what's going on, on a larger level than your San Antonio Glasses RX.

[MaNu4Tres]

Danny Green on Tony Parker today : " I've never seen Tony ever work this hard. I expect him to be back in a good way." Expects to see a new Tony Parker.

[DPG21920]

Faggy P is such a terrible pickup :lol are people really saying this a good signing? :lol I believe they used their MLE on this dude, which means they won't be getting dedmon which is good for us tbh.

It is a good signing. He's not making or breaking their team, but they have a lot of depth and Nick Young had a really solid season. He's not as bad as people make him out to be.

For GS, these guys aren't about elevating their team; they have their core. It's about depth and rest and still being able to win without putting too much mileage on the best players.

Casspi and Young are very quality signings for a team of GS caliber.

I agree, they are light on bigs and that is an "issue" but who is poised to make them pay for that issue? Plus, now they have trade assets all around and guys to replace those players if they need to make moves.

[Clipper Nation]

I don't remember young doing shit in any playoffs. :lol

Same like houston guards shitting in the playoffs. :lol
The Clippers wouldn't have made that 27-point comeback against Memphis in 2012 without Swaggy, tbh. He hit several huge threes during that run.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUOOR-_2pSU

[Joseph Kony]

It is a good signing. He's not making or breaking their team, but they have a lot of depth and Nick Young had a really solid season. He's not as bad as people make him out to be.

For GS, these guys aren't about elevating their team; they have their core. It's about depth and rest and still being able to win without putting too much mileage on the best players.

Casspi and Young are very quality signings for a team of GS caliber.

I agree, they are light on bigs and that is an "issue" but who is poised to make them pay for that issue? Plus, now they have trade assets all around and guys to replace those players if they need to make moves.

Okay, maybe "terrible" isn't the right word, but come on, it's Nick Young. His only real asset is his shooting and he's pretty up and down on that. He did shoot a solid % last season but at 36% the two prior years, which isnt that great. obviously he will get better looks, but he is already 31, never was that good to begin with, and doesnt have much game outside of taking stupid shots he is an overall 41% shooter for his career, 37% from 3. He is a decent pickup only because GS has 4 all stars. but that could be said for plenty of other players in the league, surround them with 4 all stars and they'll always look better than they are

Casspi was a solid addition though. I'm just glad they didnt get Dedmon

[sasaint]

Then you're fantasizing. Good to know. Get back to the real and understand what's going on, on a larger level than your San Antonio Glasses RX.

I know what's going on. My original post just remarked that the GS payroll was exponentially larger than anybody else's.

[TimDunkem]

Wasn't the "big man" issue what people were saying was GS' weakness last year? Well, not only was McGee and Zaza enough to get by and knock Leonard out, they played much better going small. Bigs aren't an issue for Golden State...

[TimDunkem]

Okay, maybe "terrible" isn't the right word, but come on, it's Nick Young. His only real asset is his shooting and he's pretty up and down on that. He did shoot a solid % last season but at 36% the two prior years, which isnt that great. obviously he will get better looks, but he is already 31, never was that good to begin with, and doesnt have much game outside of taking stupid shots he is an overall 41% shooter for his career, 37% from 3. He is a decent pickup only because GS has 4 all stars. but that could be said for plenty of other players in the league, surround them with 4 all stars and they'll always look better than they are

Casspi was a solid addition though. I'm just glad they didnt get Dedmon
Young's great strength is shooting and now he's going on a team where he will get open shots and won't have to go into Swaggy P hero mode? Sounds like a good signing and exactly the kind of team a guy like him should be on.

[DPG21920]

Okay, maybe "terrible" isn't the right word, but come on, it's Nick Young. His only real asset is his shooting and he's pretty up and down on that. He did shoot a solid % last season but at 36% the two prior years, which isnt that great. obviously he will get better looks, but he is already 31, never was that good to begin with, and doesnt have much game outside of taking stupid shots he is an overall 41% shooter for his career, 37% from 3. He is a decent pickup only because GS has 4 all stars. but that could be said for plenty of other players in the league, surround them with 4 all stars and they'll always look better than they are

Casspi was a solid addition though. I'm just glad they didnt get Dedmon

Me too - Dedmon would have been a really solid addition overall for them. Will be interesting to see where he ends up and its actually looking like SA keeping Dedmon is becoming more viable for both parties.

[tonight...you]

I know what's going on. My original post just remarked that the GS payroll was exponentially larger than anybody else's.
And that means absolutely nothing to their fans and it would mean nothing to you, if you were one of their fans. It would be, actually, encouraging and something to brag about. As a fan.

[tbdog]

I really want Spurs to get reed on a multi year deal

[SAGirl]

I have a inside horse claiming a couple of trades will happen soon...
No Its not tspence.

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[Chinook]

Yeah, that's exactly what I said. :rolleyes

Obviously, it doesn't change what the result will be, it just makes a key player all the more unplayable against them and once again begs the question: given that, why was he prioritized, when they're supposedly still trying to contend

PATFO seemed to have prioritized Parker, Pau and Patty over Green and LMA in off-season plans. I think that was a mistake. However, I don't think Nick Young makes patty any more "unplayable" than he was before. Young having a one-on-one advantage means nothing. You put Patty on Young and feel all right about it.

[tonight...you]

PATFO seemed to have prioritized Parker, Pau and Patty over Green and LMA in off-season plans. I think that was a mistake. However, I don't think Nick Young makes patty any more "unplayable" than he was before. Young having a one-on-one advantage means nothing. You put Patty on Young and feel all right about it.
Nick Young is nothing.
A memo on a desk that got thrown away.

[$pursDynasty]

I just didn't want Dewayne with the Dubs or the Cavs, well I really want him back but if he has to leave not to the Dubs, Cavs or Rox.

[DPG21920]

PATFO seemed to have prioritized Parker, Pau and Patty over Green and LMA in off-season plans. I think that was a mistake. However, I don't think Nick Young makes patty any more "unplayable" than he was before. Young having a one-on-one advantage means nothing. You put Patty on Young and feel all right about it.

If you don't mind me asking - why do you say TP/Mills/Pau were prioritized over Danny/LMA?

[ducks]

Danny Green on Tony Parker today : " I've never seen Tony ever work this hard. I expect him to be back in a good way." Expects to see a new Tony Parker.

that is great news

[Nathan89]

I agree with Kony on being happy they didn't acquire Dedmon. That would've been a scary move for years to come. These signings are 1 year filler and really aren't that valuable to the Spurs. Spurstalk would be falling over themselves proclaiming the greatness of GSW's FO if they signed Bertans. They hyped the shit out of a second round pick who is a worse prospect/player than Kyle Anderson. Another player Spurstalk would be terrified of if he signed with GSW. And after 1 summer league game one of the posters hyping Bell the most proclaims our pick will replace 50mil player his rookie season.

[SAGirl]

It really is a mind fuck how the Spurs paid 50 million the first second of FA to lock up a back up PG, a week after they drafted a back up PG.

Patty will get eaten up again against Livingston, McCaw, Young. How long will it be before they realize Patty is expendable? And will White be a better matchup at the PG position off the bench vs. the Warriors by the end of the season?

:pop: Patty is the new Tony.

[tonight...you]

that is great news
Vee shall Zee.

[Joseph Kony]

Young's great strength is shooting and now he's going on a team where he will get open shots and won't have to go into Swaggy P hero mode? Sounds like a good signing and exactly the kind of team a guy like him should be on.
like i said, he is a career 37% shooter from distance, his "strength" is nothing to write home about. i agree that this is exactly the kind of team a player like him should be on, but again that could be said of any marginal role player with limited game surrounded by 4 all stars. point is, if spurs added Nick Young everyone here would be pissed.

[SAGirl]

I've got a chihuahua that can shoot over Mills.

:wow
:lmao
:bobo This one took the prize for me tonight. totally worth the visit to the site.

[tonight...you]

:pop: Patty is the new Tony.
This site has truly affected and changed you.
You weren't the poster you are now.

[tonight...you]

like i said, he is a career 37% shooter from distance, his "strength" is nothing to write home about. i agree that this is exactly the kind of team a player like him should be on, but again that could be said of any marginal role player with limited game surrounded by 4 all stars. point is, if spurs added Nick Young everyone here would be pissed.
Given minutes, he will be their Richard Jefferson.
I don't expect Kerr to be that stoopid though, having seen RJ in person.

[SAGirl]

Danny Green on Tony Parker today : " I've never seen Tony ever work this hard. I expect him to be back in a good way." Expects to see a new Tony Parker.

Why hasn't Tony ever worked that hard? Double edged statement.

[tonight...you]

Why hasn't Tony ever worked that hard? Double edged statement.
You take every person's word as literal? C'mon...
Danny just talking.

[dabom]

You take every person's word as literal? C'mon...
Danny just talking.

Teammates are supposed talk good about their teammates. Shocker. :lol

[Snaq O'Meal]

People would be laughing at us for signing swaggy faggot, but GSW does it and it's a great signing. :lmao

And no, swaggy faggot would not make the Spurs better. :lmao

He may turn out decently if their coaching staff deploy him correctly.

David West did turn in a few decent games against the Spurs in the right role. Those guys are not as bull-headed as Pop when it comes to fitting square pegs into round holes.

[ducks]

You take every person's word as literal? C'mon...
Danny just talking. just like you just talking by typing

[dabom]

He may turn out decently if their coaching staff deploy him correctly.

David West did turn in a few decent games against the Spurs in the right role. Those guys are not as bull-headed as Pop when it comes to fitting square pegs into round holes.

No, they are trash. "Right role" next to 4 allstars. :lol

[ducks]

Teammates are supposed talk good about their teammates. Shocker. :lol

did not have to say he never say tp work that hard just saying he was working hard
green must be working to if he say tp

[DPG21920]

Why hasn't Tony ever worked that hard? Double edged statement.

Dont go there. TP has always been a hard worker. You don't get to the level he did without it.

[tonight...you]

just like you just talking by typing
No different from you, but I can actually type.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Why hasn't Tony ever worked that hard? Double edged statement.

He's a starter sitting on a fat contract with no threat of being traded away.

[TimDunkem]

did not have to say he never say tp work that hard just saying he was working hard
green must be working to if he say tp
Green working? Working on getting over a hangover with RC more than likely.

[SAGirl]

This site has truly affected and changed you.
You weren't the poster you are now.

It has... but more than the site it's PATFO. I am sick of the Spurs standing pat and their big FA signing is Patty.

Sarcasm is very appropriate.

[Chinook]

If you don't mind me asking - why do you say TP/Mills/Pau were prioritized over Danny/LMA?

I say it somewhere here, but with the wink-wink Pau deal, Mills getting reupped so quickly and Parker not being moved, it seems like PATFO intended on keeping those guys. On the other hand, LMA and Green were both said to be on the block.

To create a max slot, the Spurs had two route (with numerous in-between paths, obviously): Trading/not reupping the three Ps and keeping all of those guys with Pau taking a RJ special, Mills using his hold and Tony not doing anything while moving Green and LMA. I hope I'm wrong, but I think that was the plan, and that's why Paul said no, because it's not a good plan, objectively.

[ducks]

No different from you, but I can actually type.

how many words per minute

[DPG21920]

I say it somewhere here, but with the wink-wink Pau deal, Mills getting reupped so quickly and Parker not being moved, it seems like PATFO intended on keeping those guys. On the other hand, LMA and Green were both said to be on the block.

To create a max slot, the Spurs had two route (with numerous in-between paths, obviously): Trading/not reupping the three Ps and keeping all of those guys with Pau taking a RJ special, Mills using his hold and Tony not doing anything while moving Green and LMA. I hope I'm wrong, but I think that was the plan, and that's why Paul said no, because it's not a good plan, objectively.

Ok - :tu. Ya - I don't think that was all true. I mean, Danny & LMA are still here (not that it means they were not planned to be moved), but I don't think that was the plan.

At least not Danny.

[ducks]

if spurs are just drunks why root for them?
you guys are a bunch of immature snowflakes

[tonight...you]

It has... but more than the site it's PATFO. I am sick of the Spurs standing pat and their big FA signing is Patty.

Sarcasm is very appropriate.
No worries. Everyone here is being a ninny right now.
FA doesn't even open for a few more hours and peeps have been blowing their own minds constantly for the past several weeks.

Ya'll do know this is a freaking sporting matchup, right? Between dudes that don't know any of you?
So many of us attach our egos to this localization of team sports and the team isn't even comprised of local dudes...

This Zen is doing wonders!

[SAGirl]

I agree with Kony on being happy they didn't acquire Dedmon. That would've been a scary move for years to come. These signings are 1 year filler and really aren't that valuable to the Spurs. Spurstalk would be falling over themselves proclaiming the greatness of GSW's FO if they signed Bertans. They hyped the shit out of a second round pick who is a worse prospect/player than Kyle Anderson. Another player Spurstalk would be terrified of if he signed with GSW. And after 1 summer league game one of the posters hyping Bell the most proclaims our pick will replace 50mil player his rookie season.
I wouldn't say his rookie season bc all rooks need time to adjust to the league, even the lottery picks. But at least having the potential to be a more versatile player? yes. and by versatile I mean someone whose value is not just shooting 3s, and who can do something else if his 3 pt shot is not falling that particular night.
Mills has value, for sure, when he's surrounded by playmakers and others who can get their own shots and draw attention from him, but as the Spurs move away from the old big 3, their only player of that caliber right this second was Kawhi. Overpaying for guys who are so limited IMO was not the way to go. I wanted them to make a real improvement. So I am disappointed. I am disappointed, I am disappointed, I am disappointed, etc.

We can even let the Mills criticism aside. I wanted the team to improve.

[tonight...you]

if spurs are just drunks why root for them?
you guys are a bunch of immature snowflakes
I'd root harder if they were a collection of drunks.
That's my thing baby!

Along with magic mushies and grade A marijuana, but thankfully I have my own, personal grower for those power needs.

[BatManu20]

Would love Bradley if we didn't already have 4 PG's tbh..


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[tonight...you]

how many words per minute
Ahh... you're a secretary and that shit means something.
Good to know baby.

My word-count per minute is irrelevant.

[gambit1990]

He's a starter sitting on a fat contract with no threat of being traded away.
:lol

[SAGirl]

Dont go there. TP has always been a hard worker. You don't get to the level he did without it.

Danny took me there. I didn't make that up.

[SAGirl]

He's a starter sitting on a fat contract with no threat of being traded away.

he got complacent?
I could see that for some years.
...
/sigh
whatever, I hope he's back better than ever and shits on his haters in this site for real.
Why? BC it's better for the Spurs if he will still be on the roster, that he is a productive player.

[gambit1990]

chris paul is a free agent next summer :lol

i hope he doesn't extend his contract. he'll make more $ if he waits and resigns.

[SuperCam]

882717422259765248

A younger, bigger, more athletic, higher upside guard who just had a breakout season about to sign the same deal Fatty did :lmao


:cry but PATFO had to sign MVPatty at 12:01 before he could test the market :cry

[tonight...you]

882717422259765248

A younger, bigger, more athletic, higher upside guard who just had a breakout season about to sign the same deal Fatty did :lmao


:cry but PATFO had to sign MVPatty at 12:01 before he could test the market :cry
When I read your shit, I start to fall asleep.

[MaNu4Tres]

Why hasn't Tony ever worked that hard? Double edged statement.

It really is. I always thought TP kind of coasted after the 2014 Finals win. Came back out of shape the following year after 2014 and since then its been a lot of inconsistency.

[Big Empty]

Celtics are shopping Smart, Bradley and Crowder! I would love Bradley!

[cjw]

Every shot Swaggy P takes is one that Durant/Curry/Thompson aren't taking. Their other role players do other things. Young is an average three point shooter, so let him shoot away. Yes, his shots will be less contested in GS.

[bklynspursfan]

It has... but more than the site it's PATFO. I am sick of the Spurs standing pat and their big FA signing is Patty.

Sarcasm is very appropriate.

How often do they stand Pat tho? 2013-2014 they did, and they got a title out of it. 2015 they got LMA, etc... They've been changing quite a bit, and it goes against their previous strength of having that continuity. That was their staple while other teams changed drastically, they had continuity and chemistry.

We don't know what their big FA signing is, FA is still very young.

[tonight...you]

How often do they stand Pat tho? 2013-2014 they did, and they got a title out of it. 2015 they got LMA, etc... They've been changing quite a bit, and it goes against their previous strength of having that continuity. That was their staple while other teams changed drastically, they had continuity and chemistry.

We don't know what their big FA signing is, FA is still very young.
Every person's comment here is garbage about this until FA is over.
Fuck every single one of these plebes.

[bklynspursfan]

Dont go there. TP has always been a hard worker. You don't get to the level he did without it.

Exactly. The injury likely has him even more motivated and focused. Nothing wrong with that. Even TD as he got older changed his diet and workout routine, but no one says "why didn't TD work that hard before" . TD obviously had an amazing work ethic btw, he was adapting to the times and his body.

[RD2191]

Does an LMA/Green for Bradley/Crowder work? :lol

[AFBlue]

882717422259765248

A younger, bigger, more athletic, higher upside guard who just had a breakout season about to sign the same deal Fatty did :lmao


:cry but PATFO had to sign MVPatty at 12:01 before he could test the market :cry

Wow, that's a terrible deal for Waiters. Look for him to show up out of shape and chuck shot after shot, deferring to absolutely no one.

:lol thinking that deal is better than Patty's

[TD 21]

:lmao At the apologists twisting my comment. All I said was, Young's a more difficult cover for Mills than Clark/McCaw, because he's a plus 3-point shooter (who'll now mostly take wide open spot up ones), with size. Somehow, this is being interpreted as him swinging a match-up between the two teams.


37% career from 3 isnt really I would consider to be a lethal shooter

37 with bad shot selection has a good chance of becoming 40 or more on mostly wide open spot up ones.

[Leetonidas]

37% career from 3 isnt really I would consider to be a lethal shooter

[DPG21920]

Danny took me there. I didn't make that up.

Yes you did. Danny never said he didn't work hard. You implied that by mis-interpreting what Danny said.

[Big Empty]

Does an LMA/Green for Bradley/Crowder work? :lol

[tonight...you]

[QUOTE=AFBlue;9077221]Wow, that's a terrible deal for Waiters. Look for him to show up out of shape and chuck shot after shot, deferring to absolutely no one.

NVM

[Chinook]

No one gives a fuck about Young. No one should give a fuck about Young,

[RD2191]

Nvm. Boston can't take on LMAs contract. At least I don't think they can if they need room to sign Hayward. Chinook any way we can get in on Bradley?

[MannyIsGod]

Why hasn't Tony ever worked that hard? Double edged statement.

You have to seriously be looking for some shit to even think this. Danny says that a HOF point guard with 4 rings is working harder than ever and you try to twist that shit? Really?

[ace3g]

Tim Reynolds @ByTimReynolds
(https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds) 43s (https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/882746867842527232)
AP is told that Miami and James Johnson are continuing to move near a deal. It's been expected, and still is expected.

[MannyIsGod]

It has... but more than the site it's PATFO. I am sick of the Spurs standing pat and their big FA signing is Patty.

Sarcasm is very appropriate.

Man, life as the fan of the Spurs is rough! How do you do it? You should fight back!

[Chinook]

Nvm. Boston can't take on LMAs contract. At least I don't think they can if they need room to sign Hayward. Chinook (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) any way we can get in on Bradley?

Yes. They just have to tell Pau to fuck off and use cap space to absorb Bradley. That or three-team moving Green to a place with cap space.

[tonight...you]

No one gives a fuck about Young. No one should give a fuck about Young,
Thank you. That's like having a shit-fit over a flea bite.

[rastaspur]

Ahh... you're a secretary and that shit means something.
Good to know baby.

My word-count per minute is irrelevant.

:lol

[MannyIsGod]

No one gives a fuck about Young. No one should give a fuck about Young,

Just the new level of stupidity people are stooping to because there's no news. Not even a week into free agency and people here are panicking and acting like its the middle of the season and we're out of the playoffs and Kawhi has demanded to be traded.

[I. Hustle]

Man, life as the fan of the Spurs is rough! How do you do it? You should fight back!

Where did you come from?

[tonight...you]

Man, life as the fan of the Spurs is rough! How do you do it? You should fight back!
I HATE ROOTING FOR A TEAM THAT SUCCEEDS!

[dabom]

No one gives a fuck about Young. No one should give a fuck about Young,
:lol

[MannyIsGod]

Danny took me there. I didn't make that up.

Oh fuck you. Own up to your bullshit. Danny said Tony's working harder than ever and YOU twisted that shit and now you're trying to play coy.

[MannyIsGod]

Where did you come from?

LOL. Been around again for a couple of weeks now. Free agency sucked me in.

[DesignatedT]

Spurs should try to get Bradley and Crowder. Let Simmons walk.

[RD2191]

Yes. They just have to tell Pau to fuck off and use cap space to absorb Bradley. That or three-team moving Green to a place with cap space.

:tu thanks bruh

[TheGreatYacht]

Heat keep Dion Waiters for 52M/4yr

:lmao PATFO and their 12:01am deals

[ace3g]

Let's do it.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=h6k7znx

[TheGreatYacht]

Let's do it.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=h6k7znx
Would throw in a pick just to get this done. Ainge doesn't do deals without them

[coachmac87]

I say it somewhere here, but with the wink-wink Pau deal, Mills getting reupped so quickly and Parker not being moved, it seems like PATFO intended on keeping those guys. On the other hand, LMA and Green were both said to be on the block.

To create a max slot, the Spurs had two route (with numerous in-between paths, obviously): Trading/not reupping the three Ps and keeping all of those guys with Pau taking a RJ special, Mills using his hold and Tony not doing anything while moving Green and LMA. I hope I'm wrong, but I think that was the plan, and that's why Paul said no, because it's not a good plan, objectively.

I think it's pretty obvious Paul was Plan A... and Plan B was bringing back Patty and not over paying for Hill etc...

Is it the right move?? We shall see but PATFO have a better understanding on what's going on then 100% of posters on ST..

[ace3g]

Tony Jones @tribjazz
(https://twitter.com/tribjazz) 3m (https://twitter.com/tribjazz/status/882750526898585600)
BREAKING: Jazz willing to engage Celtics in S&T talks: But Gordon Hayward must agree - sltrib.com/sports/5477632… (https://t.co/DhVdvBckm3)

[tonight...you]

Oh fuck you. Own up to your bullshit. Danny said Tony's working harder than ever and YOU twisted that shit and now you're trying to play coy.
Thank you. SAGirl is turning into no better than apalisoc now.

Garbage... I now start to skip her posts and I never did that before.

[apalisoc_9]

Let's do it.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=h6k7znx

They're trying to shed salary. Are they not? :lol

They need to send a pick and package one of their cheaper players to absorb crowder/smart etc.

Kawhi-Green-Crowder is a nice wing combination though.

Crowder at the 4, Kawhi, Green...looks nice.

[DPG21920]

chris paul is a free agent next summer :lol

i hope he doesn't extend his contract. he'll make more $ if he waits and resigns.

That's only with HOU though. They have his bird rights so if he leaves HOU he can't make the money he wants.

[ducks]

young is costing warriors 18.5 million because of the tax LOL GS

[mo7888]

Maybe Green for Crowder and either Smart or Bradley..tgat way Boston can shed salary.

[ceperez]

They're trying to shed salary. Are they not? :lol

They need to send a pick and package one of their cheaper players to absorb crowder/smart etc.

Kawhi-Green-Crowder is a nice wing combination though.

Crowder at the 4, Kawhi, Green...looks nice.

Yeah, opportunity hear to unload Aldridge!!!

[ducks]

jazz will do a sign and trade and get something and they will trade the other players later if they do not want them
jazz are a small market team and will get those players and help boston out
if I am jazz though I want a couple of draft picks:ihit

[DPG21920]

young is costing warriors 18.5 million because of the tax LOL GS

You shouldn't be lol'ng GS for that. They are trying to improve and willing to spend money that is a great front office. Many just cash in - especially when you know your team is good enough to win without trying to improve.

I don't think anyone is saying Young is a great player; what they are saying is what he represents (GS FO being aggressive and willing to spend) is impressive.

[Chinook]

I think it's pretty obvious Paul was Plan A... and Plan B was bringing back Patty and not over paying for Hill etc...

Is it the right move?? We shall see but PATFO have a better understanding on what's going on then 100% of posters on ST..

I think Paul AND Patty were Plan A. Mills was always going to be brought back. Hell, Pop even said as much.

[Mr. Body]

young is costing warriors 18.5 million because of the tax LOL GS

Jesus Christ. Someday they're going to wake up wondering what the fuck they're doing.

[coachmac87]

I think Paul AND Patty were Plan A. Mills was always going to be brought back. Hell, Pop even said as much.

You really think so??? I dunno about that..

They whiffed on Paul and took the safest route and met Mills in the middle and didn't want to take the risk of his value increasing and then being really stuck lol.

The real question is if they trust Murray...cause I sure don't lol

[ducks]

Jesus Christ. Someday they're going to wake up wondering what the fuck they're doing.

dude jerry west told them what to do now he bolted but he already laid out the plan
big market
big night life for the players
not hard to be in their shoes to get people there with curry making half court shots

[HarlemHeat37]

Warriors are just toying with the NBA, tbh..signing players that were viewed as cancer like Javale McGee and Nick Young and turning them into champions..it's intentional, it's like when the Patriots sign little white receivers and win Super Bowls:lol

[tonight...you]

young is costing warriors 18.5 million because of the tax LOL GS
Which means what, exactly?

[Mr. Body]

dude jerry west told them what to do now he bolted but he already laid out the plan
big market
big night life for the players
not hard to be in their shoes to get people there with curry making half court shots

No idea what you're talking about, but eighteen mill a year for Nick Young is insane. They're going to regret shit like this.

[ninjaskrzypek]

I'm expecting Hanga to be our first signing tomorrow

[coachmac87]

dude jerry west told them what to do now he bolted but he already laid out the plan
big market
big night life for the players
not hard to be in their shoes to get people there with curry making half court shots

Give the Warriors credit for drafting their players..really respect that tbh..

But they also got lucky AF with Curry once having his career in Jeporady to being 2x MVP he was literally making Danny Green $$ when he won the MVPs lmao.

They also lucked out by choking 3-1 lead in the Finals...

Not sure which one player a bigger factor...kinda think the epic choke job could've started one of the best possible dynasties in NBA history

[tonight...you]

Warriors are just toying with the NBA, tbh..signing players that were viewed as cancer like Javale McGee and Nick Young and turning them into champions..it's intentional, it's like when the Patriots sign little white receivers and win Super Bowls:lol
No.. it isn't, but you keep being a pompous ass.

Jesus, that was a stupid post!

[I. Hustle]

LOL. Been around again for a couple of weeks now. Free agency sucked me in.

Aaahhhh Good ol' Free Agency. The bait that sucks in all the old schoolers

[coachmac87]

Warriors are just toying with the NBA, tbh..signing players that were viewed as cancer like Javale McGee and Nick Young and turning them into champions..it's intentional, it's like when the Patriots sign little white receivers and win Super Bowls:lol

Why so racist?

[Chinook]

You really think so??? I dunno about that..

They whiffed on Paul and took the safest route and met Mills in the middle and didn't want to take the risk of his value increasing and then being really stuck lol.

The real question is if they trust Murray...cause I sure don't lol

Pop said that they were planning on re-signing Mills during the season (where as he said Dedmon would make a lot of money "somewhere"). Lowe speculated before that that Mills and SA had a deal worked out. After the deal as announced someone said on Twitter that Mills knew he wasn't going anywhere from the get-go. And then the cap space thing. Those all lead me to believe that Patty-to-SA was in the queue well before Paul made his decision.

[tonight...you]

No idea what you're talking about, but eighteen mill a year for Nick Young is insane. They're going to regret shit like this.
Why? They're rich as hell and it's not like 18.5 counts on the cap.

[Mr. Body]

Why? They're rich as hell and it's not like 18.5 counts on the cap.

It's this sort of crap that has a team owner wake up in three years realizing he's going broke buying shitty players like Nick Young and starts having to couple assets to dump salary. It's a classic mistake. Inane they have the hubris to do it.

[coachmac87]

Pop said that they were planning on re-signing Mills during the season (where as he said Dedmon would make a lot of money "somewhere"). Lowe speculated before that that Mills and SA had a deal worked out. After the deal as announced someone said on Twitter that Mills knew he wasn't going anywhere from the get-go. And then the cap space thing. Those all lead me to believe that Patty-to-SA was in the queue well before Paul made his decision.

Hmmm maybe so..but if they did get Paul they'd have to move Parker?? And if so maybe that was the deal breaker with Paul and Parker being close??? I just don't think it's smart to put the cart before the horse..I'd like to think PATFO are better then that..

[Chinook]

Hmmm maybe so..but if they did get Paul they'd have to move Parker?? And if so maybe that was the deal breaker with Paul and Parker being close??? I just don't think it's smart to put the cart before the horse..I'd like to think PATFO are better then that..

I honestly think he was planning on having five PGs on the roster with Murray, White and Mills all playing a fair bit of two. He may have been looking at is a three role-players (Mills, Gasol and Tony) are better than two (Green and LMA), though that seems really dumb.

[tonight...you]

It's this sort of crap that has a team owner wake up in three years realizing he's going broke buying shitty players like Nick Young and starts having to couple assets to dump salary. It's a classic mistake. Inane they have the hubris to do it.
Yup, they're about to go broke bud.
WTF...

[Mr. Body]

Yup, they're about to go broke bud.
WTF...

Give it a couple years. They're spending like drunken frat boys in Tijuana and just paid way too much for a tranny hooker.

[coachmac87]

I honestly think he was planning on having five PGs on the roster with Murray, White and Mills all playing a fair bit of two. He may have been looking at is a three role-players (Mills, Gasol and Tony) are better than two (Green and LMA), though that seems really dumb.


Ok I can see that. Pop did get kinda fascinated by the TWO PG's on the court at the end of the season..to me it really shows Spurs are desperate for playmakers. I think drafting White was taking a chance..at both positions (SG, PG). I personally think he's more of a two but can also create out of PNR. Forbes seems to be the weird one to grasp what his future looks like...his ceiling is Patty Mills

[rastaspur]

Tatums mom looks like a hood rat tonight. She looked better on draft night.

[tonight...you]

Give it a couple years. They're spending like drunken frat boys in Tijuana and just paid way too much for a tranny hooker.
And you're bitter over something? They just might three-peat. How much would you want the owners of the Spurs (of whom none of your money is spent) to get that designation?

How much pride would you attach your ego for that ish?

You wouldn't complain for a millisecond. Fuck that shit and recognize that the Spurs did the best they can with stars that sacrificed and fans of other teams bitched the same about them.

I want our Spurs to win, but shit is shit and whatcha gon' do when the cards are stacked against you? Especially when your own team did the best they could to stack cards and now other teams/players are taking their stance?

[TheGreatYacht]

Why hasn't Tony ever worked that hard? Double edged statement.
Why hasn't your dyke bodied fat cranium crush ever worked hard? 4 years in the NBA with Chip Engelland and co, yet he still sucks in the big stage and only shows up in the summer league or when he plays plumbers in Brooklyn :lol

[Mr. Body]

And you're bitter over something? They just might three-peat. How much would you want the owners of the Spurs (of whom none of your money is spent) to get that designation?

How much pride would you attach your ego for that ish?

You wouldn't complain for a millisecond. Fuck that shit and recognize that the Spurs did the best they can with stars that sacrificed and fans of other teams bitched the same about them.

I want our Spurs to win, but shit is shit and whatcha gon' do when the cards are stacked against you? Especially when your own team did the best they could to stack cards and now other teams/players are taking their stance?

What the fuck are you taking about? I'm saying they're spending like crazy. Owners have done this shot veggie, thinking they're invincible and realize they have to fire sale to manage it all. I'm saying they're making long term mistakes. What the fuck, dude.

[rastaspur]

Tempers are flaring in here tonight. :lol

[tonight...you]

What the fuck are you taking about? I'm saying they're spending like crazy. Owners have done this shot veggie, thinking they're invincible and realize they have to fire sale to manage it all. I'm saying they're making long term mistakes. What the fuck, dude.
No... Not GSW. They're solvent.
Maybe if we were talking about the Holt-Spurs... or Red-Car Dealership owner of a franchise, but these are solvent.

Now: tell me you would talk shit if the Spurs had a billionaire ownership group and spent a billy, but it netted them multiple championships?

Which is my point and remains so...

[RD2191]

Tempers are flaring in here tonight. :lol

PATFO has everyone on edge. :lol

[tonight...you]

Tempers are flaring in here tonight. :lol
Only one temper flaring. My smile is from ear-to-ear. Good to see you, my bruddah!

[Dancelot]

Tempers are flaring in here tonight. :lol
Shit, more like the moment FA started. :lol

[rastaspur]

Irie eyes are smiling. Let's change the subject. No one is biting on my prediction that tatun's mom is a hoe bag. Let's hash this out instead of folks arguing.

[rastaspur]

Irie eyes are smiling. Let's change the subject. No one is biting on my prediction that tatun's mom is a hoe bag. Let's hash this out instead of folks arguing.

I predict she slobs a Celtics knob before his rookie contract expires.

She just looks thirsty to me. She's clearly hungry but she's got that double thirst look in her eye.

The kind where she wants a mountain dew and might be willing to tug you if you walk to the fridge for it.

[rastaspur]

I'm so high I'm double and triple posting. My bad. Ignore my tatum's mom rant and random hoe bag predictions. I'm just making shit up.

[Nathan89]

Warriors are just toying with the NBA, tbh..signing players that were viewed as cancer like Javale McGee and Nick Young and turning them into champions..it's intentional, it's like when the Patriots sign little white receivers and win Super Bowls:lol

Two of your shticks in one post. :wow:lol

[ducks]

interesting that simmons said pacers would not deal with sa because they raped them with leonard

[DPG21920]

interesting that simmons said pacers would not deal with sa because they raped them with leonard

Where did you see/hear that?

[CGD]

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If they do the sign and trade for Hayward, BOS would be a great Dedmon landing spot.

[HarlemHeat37]

Where did you see/hear that?
Don't remember if he specifically mentioned SA, but he said Pritchard was intentionally avoiding certain teams by the end of the process..

[DPG21920]

Don't remember if he specifically mentioned SA, but he said Pritchard was intentionally avoiding certain teams by the end of the process..

I mean, it makes sense on the surface, but Pritchard and SA have a solid relationship and Bird is gone, so doesn't really hold up to me. Who knows.

[ducks]

Pacers for 6 years heard spurs raped pacers

[BatManu20]

Crowder to Utah most likely


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[LakerHater]

Damn, woulda Luvd Crowder here

[SAGirl]

Man, life as the fan of the Spurs is rough! How do you do it? You should fight back!

see that is sarcasm. it's allowed.

[tonight...you]

Irie eyes are smiling. Let's change the subject. No one is biting on my prediction that tatun's mom is a hoe bag. Let's hash this out instead of folks arguing.
The bolded made me think of a Stevie Ray Vaughan song.
You predict somebody's mother to be a hoe-bag?

You're predilection towards this material does warrant a more scrutinizing eye. Especially when being paid $250/hr for consultation.

I want my attorney feeling like he's twice as much and talking about twice as less, but charging the same...

Which makes us perfect business partners. I may be PM you in the next 9 months and no, that doesn't involve a pregnancy.

[timtonymanu]

Wasn't Pritchard the one who tried to get Batum away from the Spurs? The blazers were always the team trying to mess with the Spurs offseason

[BatManu20]

Crowder to Utah most likely


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[BatManu20]

Memphis moving towards potential rebuild. Can we trade Gasol brothers tbh.

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[ducks]

The reality is, IND wasn't much interested in return, since they couldn't leverage that after his LA leak. They were interested in playing keep away from certain teams, and ssentially blacklisting them. BOS, and CLE were on that list, and if you think the SAS weren't, I think you're wrong. IND has been hearing for SIX years how SA raped them on the Kawhi deal. They weren't taking the slightest chance that he woul re-up here.

[ducks]

Bill Simmons essentially just confirmed this theory, claiming to have spoken with several front office sources..

[jermaine]

Can we trade Gasol brothers tbh.

882623773240963072

I think Celtics are best in the East if they pull this trade off.

[SAGirl]

Thank you. SAGirl (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524) is turning into no better than apalisoc now.

Garbage... I now start to skip her posts and I never did that before.

that is nice.
you know what else is also nice? MannyIsGod showing up here, to be pissy at people. lol if he's going to be pissy just don't show up here.

[SAGirl]

I think Paul AND Patty were Plan A. Mills was always going to be brought back. Hell, Pop even said as much.

You are right about that.
At the time, I also noted it somewhere in here, but I still hoped the team improved.

[ducks]

Gasol will be had with 4 high draft picks and who will blame them they have no chance winning title

[spursistan]

I would do a Lamarsha-Marc Gasol swap in a heartbeat..

[SAGirl]

Memphis moving towards potential rebuild. Can we trade Gasol brothers tbh.

882623773240963072

I have a suspicion.
LMA for him?
Reunion of the Gasol brothers in SA?
Is it possible?

[tonight...you]

that is nice.
you know what else is also nice? MannyIsGod showing up here, to be pissy at people. lol if he's going to be pissy just don't show up here.
No argument here on that. None a'tall.

Sorry, I've been marathoning old black and whites... You know: The Spider Takes Over The World, Beginning of The End, The Trollenberg Terror, THEM!... the relaxing stuff.

[SPURt]

Memphis moving towards potential rebuild. Can we trade Gasol brothers tbh.

882623773240963072
No way this happens. Conley loves Marc more than Spurstalk likes the word "faggot".

[BillMc]

I have a suspicion.
LMA for him?
Reunion of the Gasol brothers in SA?
Is it possible?

Would love to see that happen.

[Ron Swanson]

I would do a Lamarsha-Marc Gasol swap in a heartbeat..

Sure, but I don't see Memphis doing it.

[Emperor]

Maybe they might if we include Green to replace Allen.

[coachmac87]

Memphis moving towards potential rebuild. Can we trade Gasol brothers tbh.

882623773240963072

Boston has assets...Spurs don't

[ceperez]

I have a suspicion.
LMA for him?
Reunion of the Gasol brothers in SA?
Is it possible?

Yes if Marc demands it.

[tonight...you]

No way this happens. Conley loves Marc more than Spurstalk likes the word "faggot".
That's appropriately strong. dabom (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=47543) throws that word out like it's a compliment.

[SAGirl]

I honestly think he was planning on having five PGs on the roster with Murray, White and Mills all playing a fair bit of two. He may have been looking at is a three role-players (Mills, Gasol and Tony) are better than two (Green and LMA), though that seems really dumb.

I don't know about Danny... but LMA asked out based on what we know, which is not from any personal knowledge of course... rumors, media, rumblings, plus LMA being worse than a highschooler with twitter and putting his home on sale. connect the dots.

to me the Danny development (and this is speculation) could have come up later by other teams (we know about the Cavs of course) expressing interest in him. And at that point, PATFO maybe was exploring adding him as sweetener, bc they also had Simmons wanting a signficant pay raise.. and maybe the player/pick coming back in that deal was worth it. But it didn't happen. Maybe that is when it all went to hell. Can't blame PATFO if LMA value is so depressed, they reportedly had a steep price on Danny anyways.

Right now, we shall see what they do. Looks like maybe a switch of Dedmon for some other big, and maybe Hanga. I don't expect much at this point.

[Budkin]

No way this happens. Conley loves Marc more than Spurstalk likes the word "faggot".

:lmao

[ceperez]

Best to hope that Grizzles give up Gasol to the Spurs.

[Nathan89]

If Memphis trades Gasol they don't want 32yo LMA as the return they want young assets. Spurs do not have the assets to make the trade.

[steeledl]

Tempers are flaring in here tonight. :lol

[noles1983]

Memphis moving towards potential rebuild. Can we trade Gasol brothers tbh.

882623773240963072

Can Boston take his older brother too?

[Ron Swanson]

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[Atl Spur]

882790853172920321

Sounds about right. Good deal

[ace3g]

Maybe the Spurs thought tomorrow at 12 p.m. EST (11 CST) was the first time they could talk with FAs...

[cd98]

Maybe the Spurs thought tomorrow at 12 p.m. EST (11 CST) was the first time they could talk with FAs...

Look what happened the last time they rushed and got a top free agent...LMA. It's like they decided to do the exact opposite.

[Ron Swanson]

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[SAGirl]

The trade market has the potential to be very active.

[noles1983]

Wake me up next year when TP and LMA are off the books.

[Dverde]

Wake me up next year when TP and LMA are off the books.

You assume LMA will opt out, he may not if his value drops more.

[exstatic]

882792790857527296

Wait...so they got rid of Harden to avoid the tax, and now they're in the tax? Seems like they dumped him for no reason, at this point.

[noles1983]

You assume LMA will opt out, he may not if his value drops more.

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlAgtVX3b3nr16g/giphy.gif

[DarkGinobili]

it's been really quiet so far

[exstatic]

Sounds about right. Good deal

LOL. A three and D player without a three pointer making $10M per season.

[Atl Spur]

LOL. A three and D player without a three pointer making $10M per season.

When you have an elite skill......... I don't make the rules I just know the game.

[look_at_g_shred]

When you have an elite skill......... I don't make the rules I just know the game.
What skill are we talking about? The assertion of will?

[tbdog]

If Memphis trades Gasol they don't want 32yo LMA as the return they want young assets. Spurs do not have the assets to make the trade.

They have a PG getting paid 150 mil. They can't just rebuild.

[Atl Spur]

What skill are we talking about? The assertion of will?

He was actually all team defense second team right?

[TheDoctor]

Kawhi could easily play a SG. SGs trying to matched up with him would be brutal.

NBA doesn't rely on pure positions at all anymore but if you go by definition plus Jordan/Kobe's precedent Kawhi played as a SG all season long. I said the same last summer when we were talking about KD's fit with the Spurs.

[look_at_g_shred]

So Simmons you signing or na?

[TheDoctor]

What skill are we talking about? The assertion of will?

:lol Roberson such a legend.

[Ice009]

Wow. Still nothing from the Spurs? What in the hell are they doing? Crowder looking like he's going to Utah? I was hoping the Spurs could try and get in on him and Bradley or Crowder and Smart. What in the heck are they doing? When can players officially sign?

[cjw]

So Simmons you signing or na?

Fact that the Heat are probably keeping Johnson (on top of Waiters) and that OKC likely needs to dump payroll on an under the cap team continues helping the case. Just need the Knicks and Kings to bust the rest of their loads and for Philly, Brooklyn and Atlanta not to meddle

[Ice009]

I wonder if the Spurs took a look at James Johnson? I just want to know what the heck the Spurs tried doing at this point. Even if they failed, I just want to know what they tried doing.

Can you now officially sign free agents?

[LittleCriminal]

Aldridge for M.Gasol works for me.
Add R.Gay...offseason complete.

[Mal]

Teodosic can actually shoot, unlike Rubio. And he's only 30.

NBA point guards are so athletic. I cannot see Teodosic being succesful against that. That's all

[024]

:lol surprised at the frustration on here due to the lack of moves. Are you all new Spurs fans? Standing pat in the offseason is PATFO's signature move.

Next we're going to hear the re-signing of Gasol and Simmons and this forum will really blow up.

[TheGreatYacht]

LOL. A three and D player without a three pointer making $10M per season.
But enough about Danny

[jermaine]

I'm starting to wonder if the signing date is pushed back or something.... I haven't heard or seen any actual signings yet...

[jermaine]

Hell, is ST broken??? No one is posting anything! Am I trippin??

[jyra]

I'm starting to wonder if the signing date is pushed back or something.... I haven't heard or seen any actual signings yet...

http://www.nba.com/article/2017/07/01/nba-salary-cap-set-2017-18-season-99093-million


The moratorium period ends at 12:01 p.m. ET on July 6.

A couple more hours to go.

[ceperez]

Wow. Still nothing from the Spurs? What in the hell are they doing? Crowder looking like he's going to Utah? I was hoping the Spurs could try and get in on him and Bradley or Crowder and Smart. What in the heck are they doing? When can players officially sign?

PATFO silence is very interesting... brewing a blockbuster trade perhaps?

Spurs have a problem of having too many guards, so a trade is definitely brewing.

Parker - injured
Mills - undersized on 4 year contract.
Forbes - unsigned, but shot 6-8 from 3 in SL game
White - exceeding expectations
Murray - disappointing SL play
Hanga - not signed, 3 and D guy
Green - trade rumours, but all defensive 2nd team
Simmons - not signed, but Spurs with offer and RFA
Ginobili - not signed, but may come back

That's 8 players with the reality that both Leonard and Anderson can play in the backcourt.

[jermaine]

http://www.nba.com/article/2017/07/01/nba-salary-cap-set-2017-18-season-99093-million



A couple more hours to go.

Thanks bro... I was under the impression it started last night at 12:01am. Lol I'm like shhhit, I don't see anyone signing. All these agreements but no one is signing. Did everyone pull a Deandre Jordan

[bic50]

:lol surprised at the frustration on here due to the lack of moves. Are you all new Spurs fans? Standing pat in the offseason is PATFO's signature move.

Next we're going to hear the re-signing of Gasol and Simmons and this forum will really blow up.
Problem is while the Spurs stand pat, everyone else seems to be getting better.

[GSH]

Problem is while the Spurs stand pat, everyone else seems to be getting better.


The Spurs know they were so good last year, they can afford to bring back the same team.

[tholdren]

The Spurs know they were so good last year, they can afford to bring back the same team.

Kind of. Got to get rid of gasol though

[Mal]

The Spurs know they were so good last year, they can afford to bring back the same team.

Maybe that's the case. See what young guys can bring on bigger role, and try to adapt next year. Most teams will be out of the cap space next year, and there will be many all-star snubs or failed all-star packing projects, and those guys will be available for grabs.

Can Green and LMA play better or not worse ? Yeah, why not, both on contract years so hopefully motivation is there.
Can Anderson, Bertans, Murray be valueable nba players ? Why not, we will see.
Can Kawhi be even better ? Sure.
Can Gasol at least keep being relevant for 20 minutes a game ? Hope so.
Can Simmons keep improving, and average like 12ppg ? Will see, why not.

System is still great, couple of players should make improvments, hopefully noone will fall of the cliff. Spurs were still 3rd best team last year, they've lost Parker and probably Dedmon, but young core can still improve, and hopefully vets won't slump even harder. It would be nice to add guys like Rose, CJ Miles or Gay.

Most team improved, but depleted their depth. I think depth will be very important this year, with west being packed as much as ever. I doubt there will be easy road games in the West. Teams like Lakers, Sacramento or Dallas aren't as bad as Knicks or Nets. And you have 50 games with western division teams.

[look_at_g_shred]

Sure it sucks that the spurs at the moment haven't done anything to bolster the roster but maybe the rox and thunder moves isn't such a bad thing. It just means tougher series for the worriers imo. I also understand though it means tougher matchups for us too.

[picnroll]

If Popovich can take Kawhi and his group of flotsam and jetsam past the second round again he is truly GOAT coach, all time, all sports.

[tholdren]

What really would have worked out for spurs? Paul for parker? Thats about the only piece i would want out of free agency unless spurs could get haywood. But then spurs would have another hole to fill. Boring is what has made the spurs the best organization in sports for 20 years and change.

[Ice009]

:lol surprised at the frustration on here due to the lack of moves. Are you all new Spurs fans? Standing pat in the offseason is PATFO's signature move.

Next we're going to hear the re-signing of Gasol and Simmons and this forum will really blow up.

The problem is they also do the same thing at the trade deadline. They NEED to actually do something this time around. They can't stand pat both now and at the trade deadline. They need to find a new signature move.


Thanks bro... I was under the impression it started last night at 12:01am. Lol I'm like shhhit, I don't see anyone signing. All these agreements but no one is signing. Did everyone pull a Deandre Jordan

Yeah, I thought the same thing, I thought it was AM that the signings can take place. I was wondering why there is no activity. It was becoming a little trippy.

[TheDoctor]

:lol surprised at the frustration on here due to the lack of moves. Are you all new Spurs fans? Standing pat in the offseason is PATFO's signature move.

Next we're going to hear the re-signing of Gasol and Simmons and this forum will really blow up.

They are not called Standing PATfo for nothing.

[tbdog]

Would you gamble on the future?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd5ykzcq

[Chinook]

Nah that deal is shit.

[mo7888]

Would you gamble on the future?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd5ykzcq

We don't have a contract bad enough that we'd take Parsons to get rid of it.

[rastaspur]

Would you gamble on the future?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd5ykzcq

Awful proposal. No thanks

[tdunk21]

Would you gamble on the future?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd5ykzcq

why would they trade for Tony parker when they already have Mike Conley?

[Dancelot]

Would you gamble on the future?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd5ykzcq
Holy shit at parsons making more than gasol. That dude has an incredible agent.

[cjw]

Holy shit at parsons making more than gasol. That dude has an incredible agent.

Just an effect of different years, different cap. It's also why Aldridge/Kawhi two summers ago came at such reasonable max levels. I understand why the NBAPA didn't do it (players want locked in earnings) but I'm surprised salaries weren't set as a percentage of the cap. This would have offset issues of these huge jumps and allowed all players to participate in them. At the very least, cap numbers should be based on % of cap while actual salaries should be dollars.

In retrospect, this would have also prevented Durant to Warriors and probably Aldridge to Spurs.

[ceperez]

Would you gamble on the future?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd5ykzcq

I will not take Parsons because he's injury prone.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

why would they trade for Tony parker when they already have Mike Conley?

I would trade for Parker just so that Andrew Harrison is not our backup. Still don't know the injury situation for Parker though.

[SpurPadre]

The Spurs know they were so good last year, they can afford to bring back the same team.

Can they afford to have the same team if Kawhi gets hurt again? Are you fine with this team's depth and Kawhi having to carry the team? The Warriors can afford to have Durant get hurt as we saw at some point last season.

[Spurs9]

:lmao Parsons?

[Snaq O'Meal]

If Popovich can take Kawhi and his group of flotsam and jetsam past the second round again he is truly GOAT coach, all time, all sports.

That will actually be a reflection of Kawhi's greatness. Like how David Robinson led the Spurs through a great regular season and to the WCF in 1995 despite a laughable supporting cast and front office.

[ace3g]

Spurs are either going to pull off the greatest under the radar - MIT number crunching - Salary cap timing - trade/signing of all time or they are just standing pat...

[ducks]

No surprise: Wizards plan to match BKN offer sheet to Otto Porter, per source. They'll have 48 hours to match once sheet is officially sent.
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[raybies]

Here's whats left
UnrestrictedCENTERS


Chris Andersen (39)
Joel Anthony (35)
Aron Baynes (31)
Tarik Black (26)
Andrew Bogut (33)
Dewayne Dedmon (28)
Festus Ezeli (28)
Pau Gasol (37)
Roy Hibbert (31)
Jordan Hill (30)
JaVale McGee (29)
Kelly Olynyk (26)
Zaza Pachulia (33)
Larry Sanders (29)
Marreese Speights (30)
Tiago Splitter (32)
Anderson Varejao (35)
Jeff Withey (27)
Tyler Zeller (27)
Stephen Zimmerman (21)

POWER FORWARDS


Lavoy Allen (28)
Brandon Bass (32)
Michael Beasley (28)
Nick Collison (37)
Dante Cunningham (30)
Udonis Haslem (37)
Kris Humphries (32)
Ersan Ilyasova (30)
Jonas Jerebko (30)
James Johnson (30)
Terrence Jones (25)
David Lee (34)
James McAdoo (24)
Donatas Motiejunas (27)
Mike Muscala (26)
Maurice Ndour (25)
Dirk Nowitzki (39)
Adreian Payne (26)
Willie Reed (27)
Thomas Robinson (26)
Luis Scola (37)
Jared Sullinger (25)
Anthony Tolliver (32)
Derrick Williams (26)
Christian Wood (22)

SMALL FORWARDS


Alan Anderson (35)
Luke Babbitt (28)
Matt Barnes (37)
Vince Carter (40)
Mike Dunleavy (37)
Rudy Gay (31)
Alonzo Gee (30)
Gerald Green (31)
Jeff Green (31)
James Jones (37)
Luc Mbah a Moute (31)
K.J. McDaniels (24)
Shabazz Muhammad (25)
Steve Novak (34)
Alex Poythress (24)
Damjan Rudez (31)
Troy Williams (23)
Metta World Peace (38)

SHOOTING GUARDS


Arron Afflalo (32)
Tony Allen (35)
Leandro Barbosa (35)
Anthony Brown (25)
Reggie Bullock (26)
Ian Clark (26)
Tyreke Evans (28)
Randy Foye (34)
Manu Ginobili (40)
Gerald Henderson (30)
Darrun Hilliard (24)
Dahntay Jones (37)
Jordan McRae (26)
C.J. Miles (30)
Anthony Morrow (32)
Gary Neal (33)
Brandon Rush (32)
Thabo Sefolosha (33)
Rodney Stuckey (31)
Jason Terry (40)
Hollis Thompson (26)
Marcus Thornton (30)
Sasha Vujacic (33)
C.J. Wilcox (27)
James Young (22)

POINT GUARDS


Aaron Brooks (32)
Bobby Brown (33)
Trey Burke (25)
Isaiah Canaan (26)
Mario Chalmers (31)
Norris Cole (29)
Toney Douglas (31)
Tyler Ennis (23)
Jordan Farmar (31)
Raymond Felton (33)
Marcelo Huertas (34)
Jarrett Jack (34)
Brandon Jennings (28)
Ty Lawson (30)
Shelvin Mack (27)
Ronnie Price (34)
Brian Roberts (32)
Sergio Rodriguez (31)
Rajon Rondo (31)
Derrick Rose (29)
Ramon Sessions (31)
Beno Udrih (35)
Greivis Vasquez (30)
Deron Williams (33)

RestrictedCENTERS


Joffrey Lauvergne (26)
Alex Len (24)
Nerlens Noel (23)

POWER FORWARDS


JaMychal Green (27)
Nikola Mirotic (26)
Mason Plumlee (27)
Alan Williams (24)

SMALL FORWARDS


Bojan Bogdanovic (28)
Andre Roberson (26)

SHOOTING GUARDS


Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (24)

Tim Hardaway Jr. (25)
Jonathon Simmons (28)

[tdunk21]

Spurs are either going to pull off the greatest under the radar - MIT number crunching - Salary cap timing - trade/signing of all time or they are just standing pat...

i think standing pat

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn

For 40th pick, Charlotte's Dwayne Bacon had remarkable day: 29 points in SL win, agrees to 3-year deal, 2-guaranteed. Making real impression

[Big Empty]

I wish the Spurs would try to snag Avery Bradley. While he's only 6'2 he is a good defender. He's a good two way player and if the Spurs advance to the finals they would have to go through Goldenstate, Boston or the Cavs at the end to win another ring. Bradley would be extremely helpful to have on your roster.

[Dverde]

Spurs showed interest in Thomas Robinson in the past. He could he a solid David Lee replacement. Play down low while LMA abd Pao shoot jumpers.

[tdunk21]

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[TheGreatYacht]

How many pages would this thread have without news from the other 29 NBA teams?

[RD2191]

How many pages would this thread have without news from the other 29 NBA teams?

At least two. Imo

[TheGreatYacht]

At least two. Imo
That PJ Tucker sure knows how to get clicks tbh

[Dverde]

The market is in a holding pattern until those league defining Derrick Rose and Rudy Gay dominoes drop

[raybies]

Euro star point guard Milo Teodosic has agreed to a two-year, $12.3M deal with the Los Angeles Clippers, league sources tell ESPN.

[jyra]

883032362984116225

Damn, what a bargain.

[TimDunkem]

Milos Teodosic to the Clippers for 2/12 mill for bad defense, but good shooting and elite playmaking.

Fatty to the Spurs for 4/50 mill for bad defense, decent shooting, and no playmaking.

[r0drig0lac]

Milos Teodosic to the Clippers for 2/12 mill for bad defense, but good shooting and elite playmaking.

Fatty to the Spurs for 4/50 mill for bad defense, decent shooting, and no playmaking.

sad

[szkorhetz]

Teodosic so much cheaper than Fatty. :lmao
Spurs FO. :lmao

[TimDunkem]

Culture over talent any day!

[szkorhetz]

Culture over talent any day!
Netted us so much in the last 10 years.

[Atl Spur]

Netted us so much in the last 10 years.

Written like a person with good sense......👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 I agree with you

[SAGirl]

man .. Boban surely chose the right time to join the NBA. That bubble of cap the past couple of summers is not there anymore.