Official 2017 Offseason Thread

[spurs10]

it was the preseason after the championship season ... I saw Timmy live ... I was able to take a photo with him in the Adidas store ... that was more important than the loss against Alba tbh Hell yes it was! The pre-season wins and losses are insignificant, except for us fans who hate losing no matter when it is! Glad for ya that you got to meet Tim. Very cool!

[raybies]

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[raybies]

can see okc getting baldwin. their pg depth is atrocious and they cut Criston and Canaan

[Nathan89]

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Time to cut Murray tbh

[raybies]

Time to cut Murray tbh
Yeah I'm a fan of his, but we have so many players at the guard spot. I think he has a George Hill type game... Don't think Forbes is even worth the trade.

Side note: I think New Orleans could use him as well.

[Nathan89]

I'd trade Bertans for a prospect even though it makes us smaller.

[Ice009]

I'd be interested in Baldwin. I was interested in getting him in that draft. Can anyone tell me why he is on the outs in Memphis?

[raybies]

I'd be interested in Baldwin. I was interested in getting him in that draft. Can anyone tell me why he is on the outs in Memphis?

[BatManu20]

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[SAGirl]

I'd be interested in Baldwin. I was interested in getting him in that draft. Can anyone tell me why he is on the outs in Memphis?
I am not really huge up to date on the Memphis situation but I knew they had more guys signed than roster spots and they had Mario Chalmers on a make good camp deal (sort of like the Rasual Butler deal Spurs had 2 seasons ago). If he was cut it was no loss, but he had a chance to make the team. From what I saw Chalmers was their leading scorer off the bench bouncing back from his injury well... and he earned a rotation spot. Other than that, I don't know anything else about their roster situation. But it was Chalmers, Baldwin or Harrison.

This is from a Grizzly fan website:

With Baldwin, the logjam at point guard was not in his favor. He did not make the strides in the offseason to show he was a more protectable player than Andrew Harrison (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/255244/andrew-harrison). What comes as a shock is the choice to cut ties with the 17th overall, first round draft pick from the 2016 Draft. This is the front office admitting the mistake with yet another blown draft pick. On the other side, it shows they are moving past it making the correct move to waive Baldwin.
https://www.grizzlybearblues.com/2017/10/16/16482662/memphis-grizzlies-waive-wade-baldwin-rade-zagorac-nba-news

[NASpurs]

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[ace3g]

InsideHoops.com NBA insidehoops
(https://twitter.com/InsideHoops) 7h (https://twitter.com/InsideHoops/status/919973961965989888)
Utah Jazz waive Joel Bolomboy: insidehoops.com/blog/?p=20975 (https://t.co/YwzPHQDHTZ) #NBA (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NBA)

[TheDoctor]

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[SAGirl]

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Truth hurts tbh
:lol is that your tweet handle doctor?

[TheDoctor]

Nope. The post was supposed to show Kyle's answer but he deleted the tweet :lol

[TheDoctor]

http://i.imgur.com/FxkygvF.jpg

[Nathan89]

Sagirl better go protect Ka on Twitter tbh.

[SAGirl]

Sagirl better go protect Ka on Twitter tbh.
Seems like he's doing pretty well on his own...

[SAGirl]

Nope. The post was supposed to show Kyle's answer but he deleted the tweet :lol
Probably deleted it to avoid the Spurs media police.
He should seek help from Lamarcus Aldridge with handling his tweet account. :lol

[tonight...you]

Let's just hope he comes out and balls out. I don't care about him, the individual, but I recognize that him playing like his life depends on it all year is nothing, but a good thing for this team.

[TheDoctor]

Probably deleted it to avoid the Spurs media police.
He should seek help from Lamarcus Aldridge with handling his tweet account. :lol
There's no such thing tbh

[SAGirl]

There's no such thing tbh
I was being facetious but surely their accounts are monitored tbh.. remember the big issue with Danny's instagram picture of himself before the holocaust with a funny/weird expresion. He had to apologize for it.

[YGWHI]

I was being facetious but surely their accounts are monitored tbh.. remember the big issue with Danny's instagram picture of himself before the holocaust with a funny/weird expresion. He had to apologize for it.

And Dedmon RT an article saying he deserved more minutes....Then "suddenly" he didn't see the court for the next 3-4 games.

[SAGirl]

Only 4 guys got extended from the rookie 2014 class: Embiid, Wiggins, Harris and Warren.

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Next year's FA class will have a lot of young players on RFA status.

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[TheGreatYacht]

Warriors signed Quinn Cook to a 2-way contract. Meanwhile we signed Matt fucking Costello.

Cook would be our day 1 starter at PG, and it isn't close tbh.

[Chinook]

Warriors signed Quinn Cook to a 2-way contract. Meanwhile we signed Matt fucking Costello.

Cook would be our day 1 starter at PG, and it isn't close tbh.

Isn't Cook that guy who got sonned by Bryn?

Not worried about this signing. The Warriors snatched up Briante last year but let him go. Apparently, they're also letting Looney walk.

[SAGirl]

Jabari is probably my favorite Spurs beat writer...
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[Chinook]

Kyle's great at being a glue guy. I would like to see him and Gay as the starting forwards.

[Nathan89]

Yep, Kyle is a solid piece at the 4 spot with a versatile lineup. Spurstalk would be all over his nuts if gsw drafted him. Just look at the response Bell got. A worse prospect than Ka ever was tbh.

[SAGirl]

It just seems to me like Jabari genuinely likes the players and can relate to them. His interviews are always more accessible and friendly with the players. He's done all these off the court interviews with all the guys, the rookies, the veterans... over the past couple of years he's talked to a lot of them. The most recent ones I posted were with Kyle and Bryn Forbes, but he's sat down with a lot of the guys. Contrary to the other SA reporters, he doesn't limit himself to asking cliche cookie cutter questions.

He got mixed up with JSimms agent reporting about his negotiation with the Spurs or what not, but he was the only SA reporter that was digging information about it. He also reported about Lamarcus being unhappy way, way back. He might look amateurish at times, but Jabari is the most genuine. I should post something to his tweet to encourage him. :toast

[SAGirl]

Also, I assume most of those guys in the 2014 draft class are staying with their teams. It's just a matter of establishing their market price, and some of them have to stay healthy for a season (like Lavine and Jabari Parker). Aaron Gordon may be very expensive but if he breaks out as a MIP or something of that nature, Magic will match on him. It will be interesting to follow.

[gambit1990]

i take back what i said about rose. he said recently that he had been playing revenge basketball but he’s over that now. reminded of what lebron said after his first season in miami.

[SAGirl]

Jabari with more insight:
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[Chinook]

Jabari with more insight:
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He's waiting for that max extension (which would be $54M/4 if anyone really wants to know).

[SPURt]

Here’s a fun ringer article on best case/worst case scenarios for this season:

https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nba/2017/10/6/16424566/san-antonio-spurs-preview-2017

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He's waiting for that max extension (which would be $54M/4 if anyone really wants to know).

Probably so. As soon as the Aldridge news broke, I immediately thought of Green. Since they're now committed to this core, I figured they might as well get him done and ostensibly finish the job or as much as they can reasonably do right now.

My guess is, after he inevitably opts out, he re-signs for 4/$50-54M, with the 4th season partially guaranteed.

[YGWHI]

Here’s a fun ringer article on best case/worst case scenarios for this season:

https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nba/2017/10/6/16424566/san-antonio-spurs-preview-2017

:lmao

The part about LMA/Pau best/worst case is f*cking hilarious.

[SPURt]

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The part about LMA/Pau best/worst case is f*cking hilarious.
Yep lol! I wonder who on here wrote that article

[Chinook]

Here’s a fun ringer article on best case/worst case scenarios for this season:

https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nba/2017/10/6/16424566/san-antonio-spurs-preview-2017

Same person who wrote that shit-and-a-half Tony article.

[apalisoc_9]

I might or might not know that writer personally. :lol

[Nathan89]

Nick Young already torching and he's getting paid pennies compared to Patty tbh

[TimDunkem]

Nick Young already torching and he's getting paid pennies compared to Patty tbh
Det culture tho

[Nathan89]

The silver lining of Pau's horrendous contract is we dodged Cp3s eventual much worse contract tbh.

[gambit1990]

offseason was over for the spurs after they missed out on cp3.

[cutewizard]

I just love my super Spurs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gooooooooooooooooooo spurs go!

[cutewizard]

The silver lining of Pau's horrendous contract is we dodged Cp3s eventual much worse contract tbh.

Manu at 50 years of age is better than CP3 right now.

CP3 is a joke!

[Mr. Body]

offseason was over for the spurs after they missed out on cp3.

Dodged a bullet, tbh. He'd be good for a year or two, but a millstone around the neck after.

[sasaint]

Dodged a bullet, tbh. He'd be good for a year or two, but a millstone around the neck after.

Yep. Opening night on the bench at crunch time against the Dubs with a bothersome knee does not bode well for Paul.

[raybies]

Tucker,Ariza,Mbah and Gordon with either Paul or Harden was like GS kryptonite. Could be like some kind of defensive death lineup. Was very impressive. For us though, Aldridge is the key but for GS, man, could give them a lot of problems.

[SAGirl]

Yep. Opening night on the bench at crunch time against the Dubs with a bothersome knee does not bode well for Paul.
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Quoted you bc he's from your alma mater. :tu

[sasaint]

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Quoted you bc he's from your alma mater. :tu

Thanks. :toast I think he will become a good #2 PG. If the Spurs hadn't loaded up on "smalls" already, I think he would have been good in our system. I wish my fellow Wahoo all the best!

[NASpurs]

https://streamable.com/d9nnh

Chris Paul talking about the teams he wanted to go to and talking about the Spurs in the process.

Says the wildcard for the Spurs was Pop and whether he was going to be there in a year or two. Without Pop, the Spurs aren't the Spurs.

[tonight...you]

https://streamable.com/d9nnh

Chris Paul talking about the teams he wanted to go to and talking about the Spurs in the process.

Says the wildcard for the Spurs was Pop and whether he was going to be there in a year or two. Without Pop, the Spurs aren't the Spurs.
Pop leaving in a year, or 2?
That's a little bitch creating their own fantasy land to tell mom they would go to Toys R Us and will always be a good boy...

Completely eff this punk like I would have effed LMA and his Fantasy-Land, if he already wasn't on this damn team.
Too damn late for LMA though...

Can you imagine CP-Choke and LMA in the playoffs together though?

Holy shit...

[tbdog]

I wonder if Tyson Chandler will be a buyout candidate and if LMA will recruit him.

[marinoman]

I think our frontline is good enough, I want us to improve our guards like trade patty and a first for a guard that can fuckin score. Still can’t figure why they resigned him

[Robz4000]

The front line is far from good enough. The only big who can play even average D is LMA. Not a huge fan of TC but if he comes to the Spurs I'd welcome him.

[Nathan89]

Smdh paying a 6ft SG. Should've went after kcp. Anything but Patty.

[Nathan89]

Guess that probably wasn't possible. Also Patty should be moveable considering shit teams want to pay reddick 23mil and ZBO 12mil.

[SAGirl]

I wonder if Tyson Chandler will be a buyout candidate and if LMA will recruit him.
It would be a good pickup. Team is looking thin up front. If there’s an injury it will spell trouble

[Ice009]

I'd definitely like to get Tyson Chandler if he's bought out. I didn't really want to trade for him, but as a buyout candidate, I'd be very interested.

[dabom]

I'd definitely like to get Tyson Chandler if he's bought out. I didn't really want to trade for him, but as a buyout candidate, I'd be very interested.

Nah. We have enough bigs. He might even seem like a distraction.

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[SAGirl]

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Never learned how to shoot and was very unskilled. At least he got that 10 million contract from the Rockets....

[Seventyniner]

The off-season is over, folks!

[NASpurs]

I wonder what he could mean...

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[BatManu20]

Lol


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[BatManu20]

Well that was fast.


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[RD2191]

It's time like these that you appreciate the Spurs stability.

[BatManu20]

It's time like these that you appreciate the Spurs stability.

Amen.

[raybies]

fired? rofl

They have a lot of talent so they should at least be competitive, but they getting spanked.

[raybies]

what if phx said we'll offer bledsoe and for murray and gasol. would you do it lol

[BatManu20]

Lol


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[TD 21]

what if phx said we'll offer bledsoe and for murray and gasol. would you do it lol

Murray and Mills would have to be the deal and presuming Murray continues to show promise, I could see that being appealing to Suns.

On the one hand, Bledsoe would: upgrade starting PG and complete big 3, ease back court logjam and fit with Leonard's and Aldridge's timeline. On the other hand, Bledsoe would: still leave Spurs without a 2nd best player on a championship team, is 7 years older than Murray, will make tons more for nearly 3 seasons, has a history of knee issues, is athletically reliant and would probably increase odds of maintaining 2nd best in West status more so than truly altering ceiling.

[MaNu4Tres]

what if phx said we'll offer bledsoe and for murray and gasol. would you do it lol

No.

[BatManu20]

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[Robz4000]

It's like Chris Paul never left.

[raybies]

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Doc gonna start his son now... good grief.

[YGWHI]

Neither the Clippers nor the Rockets have a healthy starting...Who would have thought it?

[tonight...you]

what if phx said we'll offer bledsoe and for murray and gasol. would you do it lol
Ha ha ha ha! What?

[raybies]

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this makes a lot of sense. They could probably get him cheap. What could they offer. I thought they didn't have any picks.

[raybies]

Ha ha ha ha! What?
on one hand you lose a promising rookie but on the other you are relieved of Pau Gasol. What's stronger? Your hate for Pau or your Hope for Murray.

:hat

[SAGirl]

on one hand you lose a promising rookie but on the other you are relieved of Pau Gasol. What's stronger? Your hate for Pau or your Hope for Murray.

:hat
I'd like to say hope for Murray wins for me and I am sure he will have worse games and a hot start will taper off, but he's shown enough to restore my hope. He's 21. I want to see him remain a Spur.
I would hate a team where Mills is retained but Murray is shipped off tbh.

[tonight...you]

on one hand you lose a promising rookie but on the other you are relieved of Pau Gasol. What's stronger? Your hate for Pau or your Hope for Murray.

:hat
Hope For Murray.
We should make a meme, or something about that. Like an Obama campaign poster.

[raybies]

Hope For Murray.
We should make a meme, or something about that. Like an Obama campaign poster.
that'd be a dope shirt

[tonight...you]

that'd be a dope shirt
Right? Murray's face in that artistic layout and HOPE below it.
That would kill.

[TheDoctor]

Hope For Murray.
We should make a meme, or something about that. Like an Obama campaign poster.
Email Frank Shepard.

[tonight...you]

Email Frank Shepard.
https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/mst3k-26.gif?w=650

[BatManu20]

Andrew Wiggins!!

[BatManu20]

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[RD2191]

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:lmao methkc fans

[tonight...you]

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Lizbeth!!! Lizbeth!!! I'm comin'!!!

[SAGirl]

He might have traveled. Also someone was screened all the way to the front row almost... but that is still one clutch basket.

[Ice009]

Andrew Wiggins!!

Was the shot off the glass?

[BatManu20]

Was the shot off the glass?

Yep.

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[Ice009]

Thanks. Andrew Wiggins IMO living up to that extension. He might become better than I thought he'd be.

I wonder how the Cavs feel about that trade in hindsight if Lebron bolts this off-season.


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Awesome video. That move where he goes to his right, would you guys call that a carry?

[tonight...you]

Thanks. Andrew Wiggins IMO living up to that extension. He might become better than I thought he'd be.

I wonder how the Cavs feel about that trade in hindsight if Lebron bolts this off-season.
Well, they did ring against the already Legendary Warriors.

[hooperflash]

These dudes still think it's the offseason , let this thread just die please :lol

[DAF86]

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With Teodosic and Beverly in there, Bledsoe doesn't make much sense, tbh. Unless theu can somehow get rid of the boss' son.

[raybies]

These dudes still think it's the offseason , let this thread just die please :lol
It's turned into "around the NBA" thread basically

[raybies]

With Teodosic and Beverly in there, Bledsoe doesn't make much sense, tbh. Unless theu can somehow get rid of the boss' son.
Milos is out indefinitely

[Robz4000]

Thanks. Andrew Wiggins IMO living up to that extension. He might become better than I thought he'd be.

I wonder how the Cavs feel about that trade in hindsight if Lebron bolts this off-season.

Eh, they got a ring out of it so I think they're fine with it.

[SAGirl]

Article in Sports Illustrated about the Suns.
https://www.si.com/nba/2017/10/22/suns-problems-deeper-earl-watson-fired-bledsoe
TLDR version:
while players haven't improved under Watson, and don't appear to play hard... the General Manager was the one that broke apart the 48 win team and traded out IThomas, Dragic, the Morris Bros, etc for nothing of significance, while also getting Brandon Knight.

[BillMc]

Lizbeth!!! Lizbeth!!! I'm comin'!!!
:lol

[Ice009]

Well, they did ring against the already Legendary Warriors.

Yeah, you're right. I guess you wouldn't trade a ring to still have Andrew Wiggins as there is no guarantee they'd have won one with him instead of Kevin Love, or in the future without Lebron (if Lebron leaves).

Do you guys think they could have won a ring these past three seasons with Wiggins had the Cavs kept him and not traded him for Kevin Love?

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[tonight...you]

Yeah, you're right. I guess you wouldn't trade a ring to still have Andrew Wiggins as there is no guarantee they'd have won one with him instead of Kevin Love, or in the future without Lebron (if Lebron leaves).

Do you guys think they could have won a ring these past three seasons with Wiggins had the Cavs kept him and not traded him for Kevin Love?
I'm going to be honest and say that, although I doubt it, I have no idea if they would have, or not.

[TheDoctor]

Yep.

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Kawhi inspired.

[SAGirl]

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[Dex]

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:lol That didn't take long. Wade has looked like garbage out there so far.

[UZER]

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I hope Parker reads this.

[NASpurs]

Knowing the Suns, they'll trade Bledsoe for two more point guards.

The Rockets do need a point guard...

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[NASpurs]

Lowry: Interest in joining Spurs was real


http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Lowry-Interest-in-joining-Spurs-was-real-12299328.php

"It was real for me," Lowry told the Express-News, "but it wasn't real for them. That's a part of the business that people don't know. I would have loved to come here, but it didn't work out. The conversation didn't happen. If the conversation happened, I would tell you. But it didn't happen.

"Not saying that I wanted out, but I did look at teams to see what was going on," said Lowry. "I mean this place would've been a great place."

:cry: Everyone always wants to come here but it never happens par the course :cry:

[Chinook]

He would have been a great fit. But we'll have to see how everything works out. Dude's not exactly lighting the world on fire so far this season.

[Robz4000]

I think he's telling the truth based on everything we'd heard since last April/May, but the Spurs weren't interested due to his price tag/age.

[marinoman]

It’s a shame we can’t trade mills till mid December, we’re stuck with him

[raybies]

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I think most ppl realized that was best for him. Good on him for accepting so soon. dont really like love at the 5 to start as well but we'll see.

[SAGirl]

Lowry: Interest in joining Spurs was real


http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Lowry-Interest-in-joining-Spurs-was-real-12299328.php

"It was real for me," Lowry told the Express-News, "but it wasn't real for them. That's a part of the business that people don't know. I would have loved to come here, but it didn't work out. The conversation didn't happen. If the conversation happened, I would tell you. But it didn't happen.

"Not saying that I wanted out, but I did look at teams to see what was going on," said Lowry. "I mean this place would've been a great place."

:cry: Everyone always wants to come here but it never happens par the course :cry:
To be remembered when that pops up. I am sure he's not the only one. I bet G.Hill also didn't get serious interest.

Anyways, let's just see how this goes. It's only two games, and Mills will play better, as well as Tony hopefully. I won't bitch if guys are playing well and the team is winning... plus Lowry has a long history of playoff choking.

But yea, we are definitely sure that 12:01 Mills was not an accident and neither was Gasol. Spurs weren't stuck with these guys. They wanted these guys.

[SAGirl]

I think most ppl realized that was best for him. Good on him for accepting so soon. dont really like love at the 5 to start as well but we'll see.
:lol:toast
I don't really like Gasol at the 5 as well.. or the LMA/GAsol to start but we'll see.

I only just recently skimmed through the Bulls game... and one thing I noticed.... the game became a blowout once Pop removed GAsol from the game. Between the traveling violations, the bad passes, the bad shots, etc... he's sinking

[NASpurs]

WTF can the Knicks even offer?

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[rjv]

just a matter of time before houston chimes in on any bledsoe trade rumors. just because if not for any other reason.

[NASpurs]

crofl

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[dabom]

What a sack of shit liar. :lmao

[BatManu20]

crofl

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Lmao :lol

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[Robz4000]

Yet no susension. No obvious favoratism there.

[Dex]

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No fine for Durant fake-flipping off a fan?

[NASpurs]

No fine for Durant fake-flipping off a fan?

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[tonight...you]

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Hmmm... which means peeps should be able to call others neggers left and right and get away with hate speech completely.
This is interesting...

[raybies]

this is not the first time he has thrown his mouth piece. thought repeated offenses were suspendible. I Don't care tho if they don't get the suspension. They were going to beat Dallas either way so whatever.

[cutewizard]

Guys, any timetable for Kawhi's return??

[Dex]

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:lmao T:lolday's NBA.

Durant knows what he meant. Everybody else knows what he meant.

The fact that he's got to flaunt his "rings" argument in the face of fans is even more pathetic, but don't act like you weren't fake-flipping the bird.

If my kid went around doing the same thing to other kids and teachers at school, I'd expect his ass to be sent directly to the principals office. And the "but it's my ring finger" argument wouldn't hold water there.

[Dex]

Guys, any timetable for Kawhi's return??

Still out. No time-table.

The official prognosis, per Pop, is "making progress"