Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[baseline bum]

Kyle Anderson ranked 6th at age 24

Seems less impressive now

:lol

Yeah lets trade Kawhi for fathead and two late lottery picks :lol

[K...]

That offer is shit. Actually was it even both picks? Everything I heard before the draft was one of the picks and Harris.

They hinted in the early draft that they did offer both, but that could have been an assumption when it was reported the Clippers were into Kawhi before punting

[Hoops Czar]

No it wasn't. That's giving Kawhi away. I don't ever expect to get 75 cents on the dollar for Leonard. An absolute best case would be maybe getting 60 cents on the dollar with Tatum. But I'm not giving him away for picks 12 & 13 unless RC is in love with a prospect available there. Apparently he wasn't.
You're assuming they're trading away a top 5 elite level player and not a player with a chronic degenerative quad who may only average 50 games a season.

[Mr. Body]

At this point, a team in win-now mode might take a flier on Kawhi for a year, even into the trade deadline. There's no reason to deal him now, especially when the Spurs hadn't evaluated a lot of players higher in the draft. Just making Kawhi soon for a year is fine. If he's gone, the team needs to rebuild anyway and no package is going to vault them anywhere.

[DAF86]

Heck, just trade him for Kyrie and keep the playoffs streak alive.

[midnightpulp]

No it wasn't. That's giving Kawhi away. I don't ever expect to get 75 cents on the dollar for Leonard. An absolute best case would be maybe getting 60 cents on the dollar with Tatum. But I'm not giving him away for picks 12 & 13 unless RC is in love with a prospect available there. Apparently he wasn't.

I didn't expect 25 cents. :lol

But yeah, I'm overrating player development here. NBA prospects pan out pretty predictably.

[baseline bum]

You're assuming they're trading away a top 5 elite level player and not a player with a chronic degenerative quad who may only average 50 games a season.

I am. I trust the Spurs team doctors more than Uncle Dennis.

[K...]

The two picks are fine in theory, but now that you see the draft, who would you take? Is one thing if there was a major prospect who slipped, but no one slipped but Porter, (who was taken before). So name your players that would have made a difference.

[objective]

:lol

Yeah lets trade Kawhi for fathead and two late lottery picks :lol

And we can give him $25 million a year because we can't just let the guy walk in free agency after trading Kawhi for him.

Gotta save face.

A face with a giant, bulbous head.

[K...]

If Kawhi plays well as might see a trade earlier as Kawhi would restore his value. I'm sure the spurs will keep in touch. They now know how bad teams want Idaho and what the low market.

If Kawhi is injured, then the spurs have time to coach him to take less and buy out his family

[exstatic]

Wow. West offered about 75 cents on the dollar there. I expected him to be hungry, and the Spurs aren't ever going to get a better offer than that going forward. The fact they turned it down suggests a few possibilities: The silver lining is that Kawhi and the Spurs repaired their rift and possibly got him and Uncle Dennis to verbally commit to the supermax. The very shiny silver lining includes all of that in addition to the Spurs assuring Kawhi they have a plan to bring a top FA to the team (hint: Lebron). The flip side is that the Spurs aren't going to cave in order to frustrate Kawhi and Dennis for another year to make a point that their organization won't be manipulated by the kind of bush league shit Kawhi and Co. pulled. The Spurs see something in Ingram and Ball/Kuzma and are waiting for the Lakers to offer the proverbial farm (least likely, since they shut down the Lakers earlier, but the Spurs could simply be playing the hard sell).

All I got.
Two late lottery picks and a young non-descript player is NOT 75 cents on the dollar. More like 25 cents. Tatum AND Brown AND the 2019 Sacto pick would be 75 cents on the dollar.

[acoelho1]

Spurs playing it smart. Not sure if this relationship is salvageable but you need to exhaust all options.

[BackHome]

It’s all about who is going to blink first

[RD2191]

It’s all about who is going to blink first

Spurs are screwed. Kawhi's a robot.

[midnightpulp]

Two late lottery picks and a young non-descript player is NOT 75 cents on the dollar. More like 25 cents. Tatum AND Brown AND the 2019 Sacto pick would be 75 cents on the dollar.

Yeah, I jumped the gun on valuing those pieces. As I said, I didn't even expect 25 cents since the Spurs are leveraged out.

[offset formation]

Why do even follow the Spurs?

He wants to feel like a winner. It's the only way he can feel like one after he's finished focking his own aunt, tbh.

[Morgo]

Anyone feel like the Sixers trading down and acquiring that Heat 2021 pick was a move to gain more assets to put into a Kawhi package?

That pick could be valuable as the High schoolers are going to be available from that year and the outlook of Miami in 3 years doesn't look that great...

[BackHome]

Spurs are screwed. Kawhi's a robot.

Damn you - I spit out my cherrios I was eating. Lol

[exstatic]

Yeah, I jumped the gun on valuing those pieces. As I said, I didn't even expect 25 cents since the Spurs are leveraged out.

Spurs hang on to Kawhi.

Bron sees his laker super team evaporate, and signs in Philly.

We have Ainges undivided attention. Bret Brown’s too. Neither can let the other get Kawhi.

[Marcus Bryant]

Spurs hang on to Kawhi.

Bron sees his laker super team evaporate, and signs in Philly.

We have Ainges undivided attention. Bret Brown’s too. Neither can let the other get Kawhi.

That's where this seems headed. A bidding war between EC rivals is best case scenario at this point.

[midnightpulp]

Spurs hang on to Kawhi.

Bron sees his laker super team evaporate, and signs in Philly.

We have Ainges undivided attention. Bret Brown’s too. Neither can let the other get Kawhi.

Good scenario. Can see it.

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Spurs are screwed. Kawhi's a robot.

:lol

[baseline bum]

Spurs hang on to Kawhi.

Bron sees his laker super team evaporate, and signs in Philly.

We have Ainges undivided attention. Bret Brown’s too. Neither can let the other get Kawhi.

Yeah no reason to jump the gun when this is a very real possibility. The other likely possibility is James still goes to LA, so does PG13, and James makes them salary dump Deng with Lolnzo to go get another player right now to give him a chance to win in year 1. James is not going to sign there to let Magic hold a $30 million salary slot open for Kawhi for a year since that capspace won't do shit to win him the 2018-19 title. Then Kawhi to the Lakers is impossible and I can't see the Celtics or Sixers scared of losing him to LA's B-team where he'd be the one man team. If LeBron stays in Cleveland the Spurs are probably boned though.

[Mugen]

If anything, no trade tonight means the Spurs aren't really interested in an immediate, complete rebuild. We already knew this with Pop probably not interested in coaching a tanking team but this pretty much confirms it.

[Mugen]

Options have definitely dwindled though so god I hope the front office holds. There aren't very many teams out there that make sense in trading for Kawhi besides the Lakers and I'm really not interested in any package that the Sixers can put together.

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Yeah no reason to jump the gun when this is a very real possibility. The other likely possibility is James still goes to LA, so does PG13, and James makes them salary dump Deng with Lolnzo to go get another player right now to give him a chance to win in year 1. James is not going to sign there to let Magic hold a $30 million salary slot open for Kawhi for a year since that capspace won't do shit to win him the 2018-19 title. Then Kawhi to the Lakers is impossible and I can't see the Celtics or Sixers scared of losing him to LA's B-team where he'd be the one man team. If LeBron stays in Cleveland the Spurs are probably boned though.

And based on their draft and lack of trades to date, I'm guessing he's as good as gone, anyway.

[exstatic]

It’s a poker game folks. You don’t win your table in one hand.

Uncle Dennis is playing Go Fish.

[baseline bum]

If anything, no trade tonight means the Spurs aren't really interested in an immediate, complete rebuild. We already knew this with Pop probably not interested in coaching a tanking team but this pretty much confirms it.

Or maybe it shows they're not going to be rushed into an awful deal. They could trade Kawhi for crap any time they want.

[Budkin]

How so?

It was mainly Rachel Nichols totally indignant that Amin Elhassan had the audacity to suggest that Kawhi should expand his list of places he would go. She was like “Why should Kawhi expand his list!? He already said he wants to go to the Lakers. Maybe the Spurs ought to realize they will end up with nothing!”

[K...]

You sit kawhi down and say "you're gonna have a miserable year if you keep acting like this. Everything you want is here, you just need to work for it. L.A. Isn't a free lunch, its a trash circus. LeBron isn't coming to rescue you.

[RD2191]

It was mainly Rachel Nichols totally indignant that Amin Elhassan had the audacity to suggest that Kawhi should expand his list of places he would go. She was like “Why should Kawhi expand his list!? He already said he wants to go to the Lakers. Maybe the Spurs ought to realize they will end up with nothing!”

Yeah, it was a little bizarre watching that tbh

[exstatic]

Options have definitely dwindled though so god I hope the front office holds. There aren't very many teams out there that make sense in trading for Kawhi besides the Lakers and I'm really not interested in any package that the Sixers can put together.

If LeBron signs there, Ben Simmons becomes expendable. He shoots as reluctantly as Kyle Anderson, and needs the ball to be effective. He’s one of a handful of players that wouldn’t be improved by playing with LeBron.

[toki9]

Hardest part of trading is waiting and not rushing into bad trades...If the team is willing to ride into the season and force Kawhi to play, then it probably means that Pop feels pretty confident that he can control the lockerroom, i.e., Kawhi won't be a distraction as long as he's with the team and away from his Uncle (And given Kawhi's apparently...neutral...personality, it's hard to see him antagonizing anyone in the lockerroom). But if this is indeed the case, then it's as good an indication as any that many of the complaints (such as betrayals by Pop and Parker) were just smokescreens generated by Kawhi's camp (which I think they were) and not really felt by Kawhi. It also says a lot about just how tough a guy Pop is.

[MannyIsGod]

If LeBron signs there, Ben Simmons becomes expendable. He shoots as reluctantly as Kyle Anderson, and needs the ball to be effective. He’s one of a handful of players that wouldn’t be improved by playing with LeBron.

If you think Philly is giving up on Ben Simmons you're out of your mind. Yeah, he's not a good shooter, but he's basically Jason Kidd.

[Mugen]

If LeBron signs there, Ben Simmons becomes expendable. He shoots as reluctantly as Kyle Anderson, and needs the ball to be effective. He’s one of a handful of players that wouldn’t be improved by playing with LeBron.

Pipe dream bruh. At this point if you're thinking trade, best you can hope for is a package centered around Jaylen Brown or hope the Lakers sweeten the deal around Ingram.

[Mr. Body]

If LeBron signs there, Ben Simmons becomes expendable. He shoots as reluctantly as Kyle Anderson, and needs the ball to be effective. He’s one of a handful of players that wouldn’t be improved by playing with LeBron.

Dude, no fucking way is Simmons ever expendable.

[exstatic]

If you think Philly is giving up on Ben Simmons you're out of your mind. Yeah, he's not a good shooter, but he's basically Jason Kidd.

LeBron and Kawhi work better than LeBron and Simmons. I’m also assuming the Celtics are breathing down their necks with an offer designed to keep Kawhi away from Philly.

[SAGirl]

Maybe he’s still growing a bone in his thigh... /sigh

[Mugen]

What are the protections around the 2019 Sacramento pick that Boston owns tbh? Jaylen + that pick is going to be the best they do at this point...

[exstatic]

What are the protections around the 2019 Sacramento pick that Boston owns tbh? Jaylen + that pick is going to be the best they do at this point...

I believe that Sacto keeps it if it’s #1 or falls outside the top 10.

[Mugen]

I believe that Sacto keeps it if it’s #1 or falls outside the top 10.

Shiiiit, i'll take that. Jaylen Brown, Sac Pick, and one of the Grizz or Clipper picks. That's about 40 cents on the dollar but better than an Ingram/Kuz deal by a long shot tbh.

[Marcus Bryant]

Leonard's complaints are bullshit. He's the only NBA player Frankel is representing.

Anyways, Philly makes a lot of sense as a trade partner.

https://www.si.com/nba/2018/06/21/nba-draft-sixers-suns-trade-mikal-bridges-zhaire-smith-kawhi-leonard-grades

[baseline bum]

LeBron and Kawhi work better than LeBron and Simmons. I’m also assuming the Celtics are breathing down their necks with an offer designed to keep Kawhi away from Philly.

Stop, the Sixers aren't trading Simmons. He's the best rookie to come into the league since at least Davis and maybe even James.

[sasaint]

LeBron and Kawhi work better than LeBron and Simmons. I’m also assuming the Celtics are breathing down their necks with an offer designed to keep Kawhi away from Philly.

Kawhi would/will be a beast of a sidekick to LeBron.

[DAF86]

The truth is ppl change... If they misdiagnosed the guys injury and got mad he wanted a second opinion, then proceeded to throw shade at him as if he was faking it, I can understand why he would be pissed... That's no way to treat the franchise player... Kawhi has built the benefit of the doubt during his years here, and ppl now wanna throw that away based on assumptions? The one thing we know for certain is that the FO has been salty about not letting Manu and Parker go out with a blaze of glory... And Pop is waaay more loyal to them than Kawhi... So I'm sure that clouded his judgment... When he had Duncan, there was no one else to be loyal to but Duncan...

From where do we know that for certain? :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

Between Philly and Boston you will get decent return for Leonard, especially if LeBron joins the Sixers. Fuck the LA teams.

[exstatic]

Stop, the Sixers aren't trading Simmons. He's the best rookie to come into the league since at least Davis and maybe even James.

If LeBron wants Kawhi, he gets Kawhi. He’ll want to win now.

[ace3g]

Paul Garcia pAulGarciaNBA
(https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA) 13s (https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1010011447483510784)
RC Buford said the Spurs still want to keep Kawhi part of the organization.

[ace3g]

Mike Finger Mikefinger
(https://twitter.com/mikefinger) 41s (https://twitter.com/mikefinger/status/1010011608657956865)
Asked RC Buford if he has a deadline for when he’d like to have the Kawhi drama settled. “Yesterday,” he said.



Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN) 1m (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1010011527867494400)
RC Buford acknowledges Spurs will "explore all options" with regards to Kawhi Leonard, but first one is to do what they can to keep him on the roster for as long as possible.

[Mr. Body]

Paul Garcia pAulGarciaNBA
(https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA) 13s (https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1010011447483510784)
RC Buford said the Spurs still want to keep Kawhi part of the organization.




Send him to those camps they use to break cultists back to reality.

[ducks]

USA USA usa

[kjhip1]

Paul Garcia pAulGarciaNBA
(https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA) 13s (https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1010011447483510784)
RC Buford said the Spurs still want to keep Kawhi part of the organization.




Does Kawhi get booed first game of the season in a Spurs uniform?

[goliath]

Spurs GM RC Buford says the franchise’s plan is to exhaust all resources to keep Kawhi Leonard with the team.

[Mr. Body]

If LeBron wants Kawhi, he gets Kawhi. He’ll want to win now.

Huh? It's not his call. Did you get hit on the head tonight or what?

[ace3g]

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[TheDoctor]

Send him to those camps they use to break cultists back to reality.
:lol

[Holden_Caulfield]

Mike Finger Mikefinger
(https://twitter.com/mikefinger) 41s (https://twitter.com/mikefinger/status/1010011608657956865)
Asked RC Buford if he has a deadline for when he’d like to have the Kawhi drama settled. “Yesterday,” he said.



Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN) 1m (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1010011527867494400)
RC Buford acknowledges Spurs will "explore all options" with regards to Kawhi Leonard, but first one is to do what they can to keep him on the roster for as long as possible.




Meaning trade the farm Boston

[K...]

Does Kawhi get booed first game of the season in a Spurs uniform?

Nah, people will be so ready to watch him play. Spurs should force him to get a real agent bf the negotiate further. Call up Duncan's lawyer

[RD2191]

Send him to those camps they use to break cultists back to reality.

:lmao

[look_at_g_shred]

So that means Supermax was offered ??

[sasaint]

Does Kawhi get booed first game of the season in a Spurs uniform?

depends on his contract status - with an extension, no; with no extension - yes.

[K...]

Huh? It's not his call. Did you get hit on the head tonight or what?

He means gm lebron is known for having demands met

[DAF86]

Does Kawhi get booed first game of the season in a Spurs uniform?

No way. In the unlikely scenario Kawhi starts this season in a Spurs uni, the crowd should be doing anything in their power to try to make him want to stay here.

[Mr. Body]

He means gm lebron is known for having demands met

Still not his call.

[MoSpur02]

R.C Buford, "the franchise's plan is to exhaust all resources to keep Kawhi Leonard with the team."

This according to Michael C Wright.

[K...]

So that means Supermax was offered ??

Yes and no. No not offered, but the spurs most definitely told him it's on the table, if they meet their demands. We don't know what that is

[spursistan]

Send him to those camps they use to break cultists back to reality.
:lol

[K...]

Still not his call.

No. But lebron will get Philly to spread wide which gets ainge hot, and then you have a bidding war

[kjhip1]

Next season will be interesting to say the least. A lot of potential for this team if Kawhi stays. Can’t wait to see our picks in summer league though!

[Mugen]

:lol DRob with the subtle appeals to Kawhi during Lonnie's interview and now RC with "Kawhi and his family mean a lot to us"....

I wonder if that's enough to melt Uncle Dennis' icy, retarded fucking brain....

[spursistan]

Yep..Doesn't sound like the Spurs are in rush to trade him and will definitely go in "wait it out" mode if needed be (maybe until next year's deadline). They've got to be blown away by an offer to do it.

[Marcus Bryant]

Spurs GM RC Buford says the franchise’s plan is to exhaust all resources to keep Kawhi Leonard with the team.



It's pure $ at this point, even if not full supermax then still much more than any other franchise. If they can't reach a deal by October after maybe things cool down then he'll be dealt to Philly. The Spurs will deal with someone they know and I think Uncle Dennis is based there.

[MoSpur02]

Kawhi wants $219 and Spurs not offering it yet

[toki9]

So...Jabari must be bulk ordering Pepto Bismol by now...

[goliath]

Maybe the spurs figure get kawhi to training camp and the regular season. Have him around the team and pop on a day to day basis and the relationship can be repaired. Right now and for the last six months it’s been all Uncle Dennis and his camp in kwahi’s ear.

[Spurs da champs]

Of course you try and repair the relationship with Kawhi, he's a top 3 player & Spurs would've rang if not for Zaza. Pop & RC gotta talk reason with Uncle Dennis, gotta wonder to if Kawhi wants to become face of Puma (they need a face, Rudy Gay aint gonna cut it) to get a shoe deal that he deems appropriate for a player of his caliber. Maybe he gets big shoe deal & his uncle becomes less prissy about LA. You never know.

[Hoops Czar]

Spurs GM RC Buford says the franchise’s plan is to exhaust all resources to keep Kawhi Leonard with the team.


He had 6 years to do this yet he waits until Kawhi is halfway out the door. Just a joke GM.

[Mr. Body]

Kawhi wants $219 and Spurs not offering it yet

It's hard to ask for that kind of jack when you sir on your ass all year pretending to be hurt.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Does Kawhi get booed first game of the season in a Spurs uniform?

No way. Joker trolls here don't actually go to games.

[K...]

He had 6 years to do this yet he waits until Kawhi is halfway out the door. Just a joke GM.

What? It's hard to script a better career then kawhi has had up to zaza. This all due to him not having a good agent. A good agent can still be an asshole. They

[Mugen]

Maybe "Kawhi and his family are important to us" is likely a plea to Kawhi's mom to try and convince him to stay. They know Uncle Dickbag can't be reasoned with, and they think his mom is the only other person that can change his mind...

[Marcus Bryant]

Maybe the spurs figure get kawhi to training camp and the regular season. Have him around the team and pop on a day to day basis and the relationship can be repaired. Right now and for the last six months it’s been all Uncle Dennis and his camp in kwahi’s ear.

Last card is $219 million, I'm sure that can get through to even the hardest of deaf mutes.

[Hoops Czar]

What? It's hard to script a better career then kawhi has had up to zaza. This all due to him not having a good agent. A good agent can still be an asshole. They
RC Buford had six years to exhaust all resources to make Kawhi want to stay. He did the bare minimum and then did the unthinkable last offseason by inking Mills and Gasol to absurd new contracts.

[Mr. Body]

RC Buford had six years to exhaust all resources to make Kawhi want to stay. He did the bare minimum and then did the unthinkable last offseason by inking Mills and Gasol to absurd new contracts.

That's just stupid.

[dabom]

Kawhi's group has been lying to his family and friends, His sister probably kept getting the usual "we gonna resign don't worry" line.

They've been lying to everyone including family. The real family probably wants him in SA. His uncle on the other hand...

[Ditty]

I'm surprised Drunkford was sober.

[Mugen]

"I don't know that timing is a factor in this," Buford said. "He is under contract for another year. Our goal is to keep him as part of our program for a long time." -RC Buford

That's a big quote and I really hope it's true tbh.

[Hoops Czar]

That's just stupid.
Enjoy those Tony and Kyle extensions boy.

[dabom]

"I don't know that timing is a factor in this," Buford said. "He is under contract for another year. Our goal is to keep him as part of our program for a long time." -RC Buford

That's a big quote and I really hope it's true tbh.

The Spurs are the real people with power. The Spurs don't have to do anything. Kawhi can leave but he needs all NBA or else he loses even more money.

[bklynspursfan]

That's just stupid.

Yup. People on here live in a fantasy world where they think we can land anyone . Not to mention the team last season was damned good till Kawhi got Zaza'ed

[raybies]

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Supermax is gonna be offered...

[sasaint]

RC Buford had six years to exhaust all resources to make Kawhi want to stay. He did the bare minimum and then did the unthinkable last offseason by inking Mills and Gasol to absurd new contracts.

Completely failed to get him a decent YOUNG sidekick or two, but splurged on geezers.

[Hoops Czar]

Yup. People on here live in a fantasy world where they think we can land anyone . Not to mention the team last season was damned good till Kawhi got Zaza'ed
Just how about anyone who isn't crippled trying to make a comeback.

[HarlemHeat37]

Would be pretty fucking funny if this shit ends with Kawhi signing a supermax to remain with the Spurs:lol

The most ESPN and the national media has EVER covered the Spurs, but it ends with nothing?

[Spurs da champs]

Would be pretty fucking funny if this shit ends with Kawhi signing a supermax to remain with the Spurs:lol

The most ESPN and the national media has EVER covered the Spurs, but it ends with nothing?

Spur fans be looking at ESPN the way Trump voters look at CNN.

[sasaint]

Yup. People on here live in a fantasy world where they think we can land anyone . Not to mention the team last season was damned good till Kawhi got Zaza'ed

Did you mean "can" or "can't"? Seems to me like people on here don't think that the Spurs can land anybody.

[spursistan]

"I don't know that timing is a factor in this," Buford said. "He is under contract for another year. Our goal is to keep him as part of our program for a long time." -RC Buford

That's a big quote and I really hope it's true tbh.
They are opting for the "wait it out" strategy and daring the Uncle Dennis to continue the "rehab" charade for another season..

This dumbfuck might destroy his nephew by making him sit out another year of his prime, though :lol..

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depends on his contract status - with an extension, no; with no extension - yes.

He'll fucking run away again, but this time he'll head to Tashkent City instead of New York City for rehab.

Jesus, I can't even imagine what that would do to his psyche.

[RD2191]

They are opting for the "wait it out" strategy and daring the Uncle Dennis to continue the "rehab" charade for another season..

This dumbfuck might destroy his nephew by making him sit out him another year in his prime, though :lol..

That won't happen..

[dbestpro]

Looks like Kawhi may have to stick around for a little while longer.

[spurs10]

No way. Joker trolls here don't actually go to games. :lol Yeah no one is booing him! I won't be!


The Spurs are the real people with power. The Spurs don't have to do anything. Kawhi can leave but he needs all NBA or else he loses even more money. Yeah I'm glad to hear R.C. say this. Kawhi needs to play out his contract and then he can walk and lose a lot of money or it's very likely an extension will be signed before the season even starts. Trading him was just not a good option.

[K...]

They are opting for the "wait it out" strategy and daring the Uncle Dennis to continue the "rehab" charade for another season..

This dumbfuck might destroy his nephew by making him sit out another year of his prime, though :lol..

At some point the league will come down. You can only try so much extortion before the league grows tired. The players assoc won't go to bat for what is essentially Lakers whoredom. Lakers don't own shit anymore. The warriors stole their swag

[Marcus Bryant]

Oh well, Plan B for ESPN.

[ducks]

Spur fans be looking at ESPN the way Trump voters look at CNN.

Trump trump trump USA USA USA

[sasaint]

He'll fucking run away again, but this time he'll head to Karachi City instead of New York City for rehab.

Jesus, I can't even imagine what that would do to his psyche.

I don't think we will know. I do not expect the Spurs to go into the season with a disgruntled star. That doesn't seem like their style. Chemistry/locker room etc. are too important to them. I kind of expect them to resolve the situation one way or another before they actually play. I am kind of leaning toward their being able to re-sign him. He stands to lose a serious chunk of change - even by Uncle Dennis' reckoning.

[Marcus Bryant]

Would be pretty fucking funny if this shit ends with Kawhi signing a supermax to remain with the Spurs:lol

The most ESPN and the national media has EVER covered the Spurs, but it ends with nothing?

Send flowers to Magic and ESPN?

[RD2191]

Trump trump trump USA USA USA

:lol

[offset formation]

That's just stupid.

Yep. And tired. Lame. Pathetic. Etc.

[Dingle Barry]

I don't think we will know. I do not expect the Spurs to go into the season with a disgruntled star. That doesn't seem like their style. Chemistry/locker room etc. are too important to them. I kind of expect them to resolve the situation one way or another before they actually play. I am kind of leaning toward their being able to re-sign him. He stands to lose a serious chunk of change - even by Uncle Dennis' reckoning.

I can't see autist Kawhi actively causing locker room issues, except by refusing to play again.

[Mugen]

Just kinda reading between the lines, RC's interview (which i'm sure was planned/rehearsed) seemed like a semi-admittance of guilt on the Spurs' part and a semi-extension of the olive branch with a subtle warning that they're prepared to wait it out if needed.

-He says things could have been handled better
-Explore all options = the supermax might be on the table now
-"Kawhi and his family"....
-"Still under contract"...

I still think that Uncle Dumbass could go nuclear and say fuck your supermax, trade me to LA. From everything we've seen this season, it's very clear we aren't dealing with a rational, professional group here tbh...

[eDizzle20]

Would be pretty fucking funny if this shit ends with Kawhi signing a supermax to remain with the Spurs:lol

The most ESPN and the national media has EVER covered the Spurs, but it ends with nothing?
For sure. Kawhi is a supermax player. When Kawhi is healthy I think LeBron is the only player better than him. This organization will be mediocre without him. Uncle Dennis has jacked him up. July 1 should tell a lot since the Spurs can officially offer him the supermax. If the Uncle Dennis is still an issue then trade him after the season, but give him that supermax offer first and see if he declines it.

[sasaint]

I can't see autist Kawhi actively causing locker room issues, except by refusing to play again.

I am not talking about brawls or guns or something. Just the rift, causing a complete lack of cohesion that is so important to the Spurs.

[spurs10]

Send flowers to Magic and ESPN? Throw in a fruit basket.

[Hoops Czar]

Would be pretty fucking funny if this shit ends with Kawhi signing a supermax to remain with the Spurs:lol

The most ESPN and the national media has EVER covered the Spurs, but it ends with nothing?

What wouldn't be very funny is Kawhi walking away post 2019 and the Spurs coming away empty handed.

[Dingle Barry]

Just how about anyone who isn't crippled trying to make a comeback.

Have you heard of LaMarcus Aldridge? Pretty big signing tbh. Yeah they fucked up last summer big time, but acting like they've been asleep at the wheel for 6 years is just dumb. We damn near won 50 without Kawhi.

[daslicer]

What wouldn't be very funny is Kawhi walking away post 2019 and the Spurs coming away empty handed.

Thanks for telling us something we don't know already.

[BatManu20]

This should go without saying, but you do whatever you can to convince Kawhi to stay. Absolutely whatever it takes. And that begins with not bringing Tony back. Seriously.

[Marcus Bryant]

Just kinda reading between the lines, RC's interview (which i'm sure was planned/rehearsed) seemed like a semi-admittance of guilt on the Spurs' part and a semi-extension of the olive branch with a subtle warning that they're prepared to wait it out if needed.

-He says things could have been handled better
-Explore all options = the supermax might be on the table now
-"Kawhi and his family"....
-"Still under contract"...

I still think that Uncle Dumbass could go nuclear and say fuck your supermax, trade me to LA. From everything we've seen this season, it's very clear we aren't dealing with a rational, professional group here tbh...

Then you deal him to the Sixers. Also I think LeBron is more likely to stay in the EC.

[Hoops Czar]

Have you heard of LaMarcus Aldridge? Pretty big signing tbh. Yeah they fucked up last summer big time, but acting like they've been asleep at the wheel for 6 years is just dumb. We damn near won 50 without Kawhi.
The other star player who demanded a trade not even a year to this date? According to the rumors, He even asked Portland if they'd be willing to take him back. It's not like Aldridge had a ton of options during his free agency and the Spurs were the only real contender of the bunch.

And other than drawing up the paperwork, (I agree, that's a big step) RC had very little to do with that signing.

[Mugen]

This should go without saying, but you do whatever you can to convince Kawhi to stay. Absolutely whatever it takes. And that begins with not bringing Tony back. Seriously.

That'd be enough for me to consider the offseason a success regardless of what happens with Kawhi tbh :lol

[cd021]

They're going to offer him the DPE. It is the obvious play at this point-though risky.

-Uncle Dennis- I mean Kawhi can't say no to $220 million in a state that has no state taxes.

-Spurs could wait until mid October- after training camp and the 5 pre-season games to make the offer if he impresses.

-Kawhi gets his money, the Spurs lock Kawhi up for the next five seasons, starting after next season.

-if Uncle Dennis tries this shit again, Kawhi can't be traded until October 2019 then he would be at the mercy of PATFO because he is on a long term deal, teams that normally wouldn't make a move for a superstar (because they'd refuse to sign an extension) would be likely to at least put a bid in.

[Marcus Bryant]

Uncle Dennis is in over his head, I'm sure he thought the Spurs' response would be sure, alrighty then we'll trade him to LA.

At some point panic will set in, if he's even aware of the supermax deadline.

[RD2191]

Spurs need to start a youth movement. Let the old guys go, it's time.

[goliath]

They are opting for the "wait it out" strategy and daring the Uncle Dennis to continue the "rehab" charade for another season..

This dumbfuck might destroy his nephew by making him sit out another year of his prime, though :lol..

I don’t see how they can have kawhi “ rehab” another season. If they tried to pull that again I really see Silver and the nba stepping in and doing something about it

[Spurs da champs]

If Kawhi does stay with Spurs this would be the best FU to Lakers since making Kobe & Fisher cry in 03.

[Holden_Caulfield]

I don’t see how they can have kawhi “ rehab” another season. If they tried to pull that again I really see Silver and the nba stepping in and doing something about it
wasnt there a tweet a couple days ago stating he is completely healthy? or at least like 95%

[Marcus Bryant]

Leonard not playing next season will destroy his value and be completely transparent.

Maybe he's willing to give up the supermax but if doesn't play again next season that would raise a million red flags about him to the entire league.

[cd021]

I don't think we will know. I do not expect the Spurs to go into the season with a disgruntled star. That doesn't seem like their style. Chemistry/locker room etc. are too important to them. I kind of expect them to resolve the situation one way or another before they actually play. I am kind of leaning toward their being able to re-sign him. He stands to lose a serious chunk of change - even by Uncle Dennis' reckoning.

I am leaning towards dragging it out to the DPE deadline (after the pre-season but before the regular season) with the Spurs only offering it after he proves he's healthy he'll have to answer for his bitch-assery during media availability and after every game while also having to weigh whether he want's to turn down $220 million.

I think him and Pop have a legitimately good relationship and it could recover but Parker is probably dead to Kawhi, but not so much that it'll keep him from returning if he decides to.

[NASpurs]

wasnt there a tweet a couple days ago stating he is completely healthy? or at least like 95%

Yeah they came out after reports were saying that the Lakers and Clippers were being wary about dealing for Leonard after injuries concerns... and Kawhi's group tried to squash those concerns by saying that he's 100% healthy now.

[Marcus Bryant]

Implicit with NBA players getting long term guaranteed contracts is that they don't pull bush league bullshit like holding out.

[cd021]

Leonard not playing next season will destroy his value and be completely transparent.

Maybe he's willing to give up the supermax but if doesn't play again next season that would raise a million red flags about him to the entire league.

No way he does that again, "he'll show up to his job and half ass it, like a true American" (Simpsons reference)

If the Spurs do give in and give him the DPE, then he better not though or they can move him to another team after a year.

[marinoman]

Man a lot of guys think he’ll stay now, based on what RC said? They wanna keep him, not surprising, but nothing from kawhis camp suggesting a desire to stay

[Spurs da champs]

Man a lot of guys think he’ll stay now, based on what RC said? They wanna keep him, not surprising, but nothing from kawhis camp suggesting a desire to stay
Honestly think this is horrible tactics from his uncle to get him the supermax, we shall see where this goes next.

[daslicer]

That'd be enough for me to consider the offseason a success regardless of what happens with Kawhi tbh :lol

Agreed

[HarlemHeat37]

Man a lot of guys think he’ll stay now, based on what RC said? They wanna keep him, not surprising, but nothing from kawhis camp suggesting a desire to stay

I don't necessarily think they're going to keep him, I just think it would be the funniest outcome..I wonder what Jabari would do:lol

I really don't know what to expect from this anymore(other than not getting a good trade package in return)..it's one of the most confusing things I've ever seen in pro sports..so many reports, so many leaks, an unconventional/amateur agency, the player in question never saying a word, etc..

[sasaint]

I am leaning towards dragging it out to the DPE deadline (after the pre-season but before the regular season) with the Spurs only offering it after he proves he's healthy he'll have to answer for his bitch-assery during media availability and after every game while also having to weigh whether he want's to turn down $220 million.

I think him and Pop have a legitimately good relationship and it could recover but Parker is probably dead to Kawhi, but not so much that it'll keep him from returning if he decides to.

I acknowledge Tony and Manu are both justifiably in the Spurs' pantheon, however, I have wanted to part ways with them for some time. If Kawhi is back, I suspect I will get my wish. So, I expect that issue to be resolved prior to pre-season play. That will go some way toward repairing the rift and creating a more comfortable team atmosphere. I honestly don't know about Kawhi and Pop. The LA radio guys got my attention with their take on the real reasons behind this situation. I also do not believe that he will ever want to be the face of the franchise. That means that PATFO will have to hope one of their newer, more "leadership" oriented guys is up to the task. In the meanwhile, it means that Patty will be retained. He will be as close to the old Manu/Tony spokesmen that we have. That probably also has a lot to do with why Pop likes Murray much more than I. He is certainly willing to be the face of the franchise leader and spokesman.

Anyhow, I see your point. It is a good one. It may take till then to resolve the situation.

[sasaint]

That'd be enough for me to consider the offseason a success regardless of what happens with Kawhi tbh :lol

That would be a good start, but they need to clear out more clutter than that. The quantity of guards on this team needs to be replaced with quality.

[objective]

Camp Kawhi must be so pissed off that Kawhi wasn't traded to the Lakers.

Probably blaming Kawhi for not being a big enough jerk to Pop.

Maybe made Kawhi go pick out a belt to get his punishment.

[BatManu20]

I don't necessarily think they're going to keep him, I just think it would be the funniest outcome..I wonder what Jabari would do:lol

I really don't know what to expect from this anymore(other than not getting a good trade package in return)..it's one of the most confusing things I've ever seen in pro sports..so many reports, so many leaks, an unconventional/amateur agency, the player in question never saying a word, etc..

Dude it really is. I can’t think of a more bizarre story ever in the NBA, and as you mentioned, maybe in all of pro sports. Blake Griffin and the Clips locking DeAndre Jordan in his own home was crazy, but it was more funny than anything (unless you’re a Mavs fan). But this Kawhi is just nuts and nobody knows how it’s going to end. Wild.

[cd021]

I acknowledge Tony and Manu are both justifiably in the Spurs' pantheon, however, I have wanted to part ways with them for some time. If Kawhi is back, I suspect I will get my wish. So, I expect that issue to be resolved prior to pre-season play. That will go some way toward repairing the rift and creating a more comfortable team atmosphere. I honestly don't know about Kawhi and Pop. The LA radio guys got my attention with their take on the real reasons behind this situation. I also do not believe that he will ever want to be the face of the franchise. That means that PATFO will have to hope one of their newer, more "leadership" oriented guys is up to the task. In the meanwhile, it means that Patty will be retained. He will be as close to the old Manu/Tony spokesmen that we have. That probably also has a lot to do with why Pop likes Murray much more than I. He is certainly willing to be the face of the franchise leader and spokesman.

Anyhow, I see your point. It is a good one. It may take till then to resolve the situation.

I think Manu may just retire while Parker is brought back, in a reduced role (18-20 mpg behind Murray). He's the best player on the Spurs and also the highest paid, being the face of the franchise comes with the territory.

If he can't handle that, then that is every bit as concerning as Uncle Dennis' involvement in his career.

There was a report that he was unhappy with Pop's coaching-I am paraphrasing. I could see a change to a more modern style of play with a tweaked lineup that has multiple ball handler's and without the traditional two-big man SL (Murray, Mills, Kawhi, Gay/Anderson, Aldridge).

That is probably the biggest change the Spurs could make internally without much in the way of other options to improve the team.

[polandprzem]

I don't necessarily think they're going to keep him, I just think it would be the funniest outcome..I wonder what Jabari would do:lol

I really don't know what to expect from this anymore(other than not getting a good trade package in return)..it's one of the most confusing things I've ever seen in pro sports..so many reports, so many leaks, an unconventional/amateur agency, the player in question never saying a word, etc..

+1

I was thinking that one lately. In a whole career as a fan I never seen a situation like that.

[TE]

It's going to be VERY interesting when the season begins.

[John B]

I like what Spurs did not giving up on the top 2 player but not giving in to his demand. The ball is on Kawhi’s side now to prove himself 100% healthy and back to pre-injury. Spurs drafted two athletic scorers, with high motor who can defend and agile. I like our chances going in. This draft is so deep and yet I still think both players are steal at 18 and 49.

[sasaint]

I think Manu may just retire while Parker is brought back, in a reduced role (18-20 mpg behind Murray). He's the best player on the Spurs and also the highest paid, being the face of the franchise comes with the territory.

If he can't handle that, then that is every bit as concerning as Uncle Dennis' involvement in his career.

There was a report that he was unhappy with Pop's coaching-I am paraphrasing. I could see a change to a more modern style of play with a tweaked lineup that has multiple ball handler's and without the traditional two-big man SL (Murray, Mills, Kawhi, Gay/Anderson, Aldridge).

That is probably the biggest change the Spurs could make internally without much in the way of other options to improve the team.

In Kawhi's case that simply isn't true. As I have been saying for months, that is part of the Spurs' quandary: having a top 3 player in the league who will not ever be the face of ANY franchise. Man, he more than proved that this last 9 months. So, they have to use a new paradigm where your best and highest paid player is NOT the face of the franchise. They have to find another guy to fill that role and let Kawhi's work on the court speak for itself. It is really an unprecedented situation with an unprecedented player.

[daslicer]

In Kawhi's case that simply isn't true. As I have been saying for months, that is part of the Spurs' quandary: having a top 3 player in the league who will not ever be the face of ANY franchise. Man, he more than proved that this last 9 months. So, they have to use a new paradigm where your best and highest paid player is NOT the face of the franchise. They have to find another guy to fill that role and let Kawhi's work on the court speak for itself. It is really an unprecedented situation with an unprecedented player.

Sort of similar to the Warriors situation with Durant,Curry not being able to be leaders and having Draymond take up the leadership role. The difference in this situation is both Durant and Curry are more than willing to the face of their franchise. Spurs will have to have someone else take up the leadership role and also be the face of the franchise. It's a very weird situation.

[polandprzem]

What RC said was not encouraging tbh

[coachmac87]

RC Buford had six years to exhaust all resources to make Kawhi want to stay. He did the bare minimum and then did the unthinkable last offseason by inking Mills and Gasol to absurd new contracts.

Say what you want but that team didn’t even get a chance to see what it could do..Cause Kawhi pulled that stunt. Could they have won a title?? I dunno but Curry was out in the first round and Warriors were vulnerable..Kawhi said “Fuck Off”.

This shitty roster was still in the WCF and dominant in Game 1. And tbh dominant against the Warriors...don’t forget on the 30 point blow out Game 1 of season in Oracle..But yeah back to WCF Game 1 which is a broken record but it’s still factual and I don’t care what any PATFO hater says that “feeling” of a championship run was there. Especially because of the previous game against Houston which they won by 40!!!!..which was unexpected tbh.

During this Warriors run other than last playoffs and this year NOBODY has beaten the Warriors more. Pop knows how to compete against them..he’s just been out manned recently and against that team every player is needed..

The contracts sucked (Pau, Patty) but they swung for the fence and missed..and running it back with the team that got Zaza’d wasn’t a bad fall back optio..Spurs can always deal with the contracts later...maybe this offseason.

But they Spurs have tried and been competitive WITH Kawhi 60 games plus the past 2 years.

Spurs fans just too spoiled bruh

[daslicer]

Say what you want but that team didn’t even get a chance to see what it could do..Cause Kawhi pulled that stunt. Could they have won a title?? I dunno but Curry was out in the first round and Warriors were vulnerable..Kawhi said “Fuck Off”.

This shitty roster was still in the WCF and dominant in Game 1. And tbh dominant against the Warriors...don’t forget on the 30 point blow out Game 1 of season in Oracle..But yeah back to WCF Game 1 which is a broken record but it’s still factual and I don’t care what any PATFO hater says that “feeling” of a championship run was there. Especially because of the previous game against Houston which they won by 40!!!!..which was unexpected tbh.

During this Warriors run other than last playoffs and this year NOBODY has beaten the Warriors more. Pop knows how to compete against them..he’s just been out manned recently and against that team every player is needed..

The contracts sucked (Pau, Patty) but they swung for the fence and missed..and running it back with the team that got Zaza’d wasn’t a bad fall back optio..Spurs can always deal with the contracts later...maybe this offseason.

But they Spurs have tried and been competitive WITH Kawhi 60 games plus the past 2 years.

Spurs fans just too spoiled bruh

I don't think the Warriors are as dominant as people make them out to be. I think they are a soft team that will crumble when facing adversity. The last 2 years they have had luckiest situations where they top opponent suffered injuries to either their best player ala Kawhi or their second best player ala CP3.

[coachmac87]

I don't think the Warriors are as dominant as people make them out to be. I think they are a soft team that will crumble when facing adversity. The last 2 years they have had luckiest situations where they top opponent suffered injuries to either their best player ala Kawhi or their second best player ala CP3.

Offensive length and rebounding and limiting them to ONE shot is what made us match up with them. We invented the switch defense against them when held the 73 win team to 74 points...

They can’t guard Kawhi or LMA on the block. We took efficient shots and they launched bad shots (3’s) which is key on limiting them to one shot..

We have the formula to compete but without Kawhi who can bother KD we’re hopeless

[Dingle Barry]

The other star player who demanded a trade not even a year to this date? According to the rumors, He even asked Portland if they'd be willing to take him back. It's not like Aldridge had a ton of options during his free agency and the Spurs were the only real contender of the bunch.

And other than drawing up the paperwork, (I agree, that's a big step) RC had very little to do with that signing.

LMA having a bitch fit last year is irrelevant to our discussion about the effort made to make Leonard happy.

Your other "points" are just silly attempts to shit on the biggest FA signing in franchise history.

[Dingle Barry]

What RC said was not encouraging tbh

Why/how?

[ElNono]

Leonard not playing next season will destroy his value and be completely transparent.

Maybe he's willing to give up the supermax but if doesn't play again next season that would raise a million red flags about him to the entire league.


Implicit with NBA players getting long term guaranteed contracts is that they don't pull bush league bullshit like holding out.

I dunno about all that. There's all sorts of dumbass GMs these days, not to mention cases like the nutjob that was Demarcus Cousins early on, or the case of midget Isiah Thomas.

It's moot though, there's nothing in it for the Spurs to hold on to him and then just let him walk, not to mention the media circus distractions, etc. They'll probably work early and often to find a decent trade package and ship his ass out to the biggest bidder.

[cutewizard]

Better Parker leaves and Manu returns for the final year

[Budkin]

What RC said was not encouraging tbh

Totally disagree. I feel completely the opposite.

[cutewizard]

Manu mentors Skywalker and Gasol can mentor Metu, hehehehehe

[spurs10]

It seems like R.C. was making it pretty clear that he was planning on keeping Kawhi as long as possible. Kawhi doesn't show up and play 100% he would be suspended, lose the super-max, and have lost two years of his prime. Sure someone will sign him, but I think the 'i won't show' option is a very costly option both monetarily and image-wise. I think it's clear what the Spurs plan is and if he's to be traded it ain't happening any time soon.

[spurs10]

Totally disagree. I feel completely the opposite. Yes. of course it was encouraging.

[Dingle Barry]

I acknowledge Tony and Manu are both justifiably in the Spurs' pantheon, however, I have wanted to part ways with them for some time. If Kawhi is back, I suspect I will get my wish. So, I expect that issue to be resolved prior to pre-season play. That will go some way toward repairing the rift and creating a more comfortable team atmosphere. I honestly don't know about Kawhi and Pop. The LA radio guys got my attention with their take on the real reasons behind this situation. I also do not believe that he will ever want to be the face of the franchise. That means that PATFO will have to hope one of their newer, more "leadership" oriented guys is up to the task. In the meanwhile, it means that Patty will be retained. He will be as close to the old Manu/Tony spokesmen that we have. That probably also has a lot to do with why Pop likes Murray much more than I. He is certainly willing to be the face of the franchise leader and spokesman.

Anyhow, I see your point. It is a good one. It may take till then to resolve the situation.

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about with this spokesman stuff. This isn't diplomacy. The face of the franchise can be a quiet guy who just plays ball. Like Tim Duncan. I don't recall him being the team spokesman for anything. Ditto Manu or TP.

I actually had no idea any team used players as spokesmen.

Now, leadership is a different thing.

[duncan2150]

It seems like R.C. was making it pretty clear that he was planning on keeping Kawhi as long as possible. Kawhi doesn't show up and play 100% he would be suspended, lose the super-max, and have lost two years of his prime. Sure someone will sign him, but I think the 'i won't show' option is a very costly option both monetarily and image-wise. I think it's clear what the Spurs plan is and if he's to be traded it ain't happening any time soon.

agreed with that, and if kawhi plays next season is trade value will increase so it's better for us to be patient. His value could not be lower than today imo.

[spurs10]

agreed with that, and if kawhi plays next season is trade value will increase so it's better for us to be patient. His value could not be lower than today imo. :bobo

[polandprzem]

Totally disagree. I feel completely the opposite.

Hows that?

Looks like the meeting took place and nothing was solved and with his saying we wished not to be in this situation... Hows that good?


The only plus we can have from his interview is that they are trying to get things done and have Kawhi in a team. Thing is the cooperation is not there.

[r0drig0lac]

Yeah they came out after reports were saying that the Lakers and Clippers were being wary about dealing for Leonard after injuries concerns... and Kawhi's group tried to squash those concerns by saying that he's 100% healthy now.

this makes sense, and it can be proof that "Kawhi's team" is not really talking to Magic underneath the cloths (at least at this point)

[szkorhetz]

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about with this spokesman stuff. This isn't diplomacy. The face of the franchise can be a quiet guy who just plays ball. Like Tim Duncan. I don't recall him being the team spokesman for anything. Ditto Manu or TP.

I actually had no idea any team used players as spokesmen.

Now, leadership is a different thing.
Tim always stood up for his teammates, talked to them, cheered them, was talking with referees. Kl? Nothing?

[szkorhetz]

https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1009958017855520769?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.realgm.com%2Fboards%2 Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D1717595

[Emperor]

Several hours old bro.

[baseline bum]

Maybe "Kawhi and his family are important to us" is likely a plea to Kawhi's mom to try and convince him to stay. They know Uncle Dickbag can't be reasoned with, and they think his mom is the only other person that can change his mind...

It's just a way to justify not trading him right now while the Lakers superteam dream is alive and everyone is scared to offer anything decent. It's pretty funny.

[baseline bum]

The Spurs are the real people with power. The Spurs don't have to do anything. Kawhi can leave but he needs all NBA or else he loses even more money.

Making an All NBA team doesn't get him a cent more from another team.

[baseline bum]

I dunno about all that. There's all sorts of dumbass GMs these days, not to mention cases like the nutjob that was Demarcus Cousins early on, or the case of midget Isiah Thomas.

It's moot though, there's nothing in it for the Spurs to hold on to him and then just let him walk, not to mention the media circus distractions, etc. They'll probably work early and often to find a decent trade package and ship his ass out to the biggest bidder.

Time is on the Spurs side. If James goes to the Lakers he's making sure Magic is doing everything he can to win now, not to win in a year. No way James signs there and oks Magic holding a $30 slot for Kawhi open for a year when that could go to players right now. If he goes to Philly then Boston has to counter, especially to keep Kawhi out of Philly too. If he stays in Cleveland then oh well, we're right back to where we are now except now Kawhi would be taking an $80 million paycut to go to the Lakers to play with Paul George, not to play with Paul George and LeBron.

[DesignatedT]

Spurs prob would have taken Walker with one of the 12/13 picks if they had traded with LAC.

[NASpurs]

Spurs prob would have taken Walker with one of the 12/13 picks if they had traded with LAC.

There were reports about Spurs trying to move up to the Hornets pick just so they could get Walker. Amazing luck to still get who you want without needing to trade.

[Mr. Body]

Spurs prob would have taken Walker with one of the 12/13 picks if they had traded with LAC.

I'm not sure why he fell five to eight slots from where he had been projected. But it's the draft...

[Mugen]

:lol Not sure why some people are making it seem like the Supermax is some sort of win for the front office if Kawhi accepts it....

That's Uncle Dennis securing one of the biggest contracts in NBA history for a guy that quit on his team after 9 games and bullied them around after doing so...

[Mugen]

Shit, if Uncle Dennis secures a supermax for Kawhi this summer, guys should be lining up to hire this nigga asap :lol

[Mr. Body]

:lol Not sure why some people are making it seem like the Supermax is some sort of win for the front office if Kawhi accepts it....

That's Uncle Dennis securing one of the biggest contracts in NBA history for a guy that quit on his team after 9 games and bullied them around after doing so...

Yeah, I'm still in the camp of trading him eventually. Kathy is a china doll. You don't pay those kinds of bucks for a sitting-out but who can't play through nicks and scratches.

[ernest787]

:lol Not sure why some people are making it seem like the Supermax is some sort of win for the front office if Kawhi accepts it....

That's Uncle Dennis securing one of the biggest contracts in NBA history for a guy that quit on his team after 9 games and bullied them around after doing so...


It's a win, because he either gets in line and you have a top 5 player on your team, or he now has 0 leverage and in a year the Spurs can trade him wherever they want and will get a much better return than Ingram and Kuzma.

[Marcus Bryant]

Time is on the Spurs side. If James goes to the Lakers he's making sure Magic is doing everything he can to win now, not to win in a year. No way James signs there and oks Magic holding a $30 slot for Kawhi open for a year when that could go to players right now. If he goes to Philly then Boston has to counter, especially to keep Kawhi out of Philly too. If he stays in Cleveland then oh well, we're right back to where we are now except now Kawhi would be taking an $80 million paycut to go to the Lakers to play with Paul George, not to play with Paul George and LeBron.

Yes. This isn't before the trade deadline. While Magic and ESPN may have a timetable, that's their problem, Leonard's under contract. And fuck West too.

[Mugen]

It's a win, because he either gets in line and you have a top 5 player on your team, or he now has 0 leverage and in a year the Spurs can trade him wherever they want and will get a much better return than Ingram and Kuzma.

Plus Kawhi is getting 40+mil instead of 19mil when he pulls this shit again :lol

[dabom]

Shit, if Uncle Dennis secures a supermax for Kawhi this summer, guys should be lining up to hire this nigga asap :lol

He was getting that before any of this shit happened you dumb fuck. :lmao

[Mugen]

He was getting that before any of this shit happened you dumb fuck. :lmao

:lol So a guy can either a) have an injury severe enough that costs him most of the season b) fake an injury that costs him most of the season....

And STILL get paid 219mil cuz of a coupe of leaks? Damn Uncle D bending RC and Pop over without even a steak dinner....

[bklynspursfan]

Time is on the Spurs side. If James goes to the Lakers he's making sure Magic is doing everything he can to win now, not to win in a year. No way James signs there and oks Magic holding a $30 slot for Kawhi open for a year when that could go to players right now. If he goes to Philly then Boston has to counter, especially to keep Kawhi out of Philly too. If he stays in Cleveland then oh well, we're right back to where we are now except now Kawhi would be taking an $80 million paycut to go to the Lakers to play with Paul George, not to play with Paul George and LeBron.

Good points

[Mr. Body]

Time is on the Spurs side. If James goes to the Lakers he's making sure Magic is doing everything he can to win now, not to win in a year. No way James signs there and oks Magic holding a $30 slot for Kawhi open for a year when that could go to players right now. If he goes to Philly then Boston has to counter, especially to keep Kawhi out of Philly too. If he stays in Cleveland then oh well, we're right back to where we are now except now Kawhi would be taking an $80 million paycut to go to the Lakers to play with Paul George, not to play with Paul George and LeBron.

We're also pretending that LeBron has a ton of time left in the league. He's not a young guy. He's in great shape, but if he gets a long contract, he's not going to the the player we see now at the end of it.

Lakers have to know this, pushing them a bit.

[sasaint]

We're also pretending that LeBron has a ton of time left in the league. He's not a young guy. He's in great shape, but if he gets a long contract, he's not going to the the player we see now at the end of it.

Lakers have to know this, pushing them a bit.

Since his return to Cleveland, LeBron has been signing 1+1 deals. He may sign one more. But you are right; LeBron will inevitably be a different player in 4 years. He will want to sign a longer deal at some point.

[tbdog]

:lol So a guy can either a) have an injury severe enough that costs him most of the season b) fake an injury that costs him most of the season....

And STILL get paid 219mil cuz of a coupe of leaks? Damn Uncle D bending RC and Pop over without even a steak dinner....

Players have gotten max deals coming off serious injuries, Wes Mathews, Parsons, and probably Cousins as well. Leonard injury isn't serious. They just played it way too safe (that is if its a non fake injury)

[bklynspursfan]

Did you mean "can" or "can't"? Seems to me like people on here don't think that the Spurs can land anybody.

No I meant can.. There are some who think we should be able to land anyone and be like the Warriors apparently. The expectations are just out of whack

[cd98]

So when is the deadline to offer the super max to Kawhi? October?

[sasaint]

No I meant can.. There are some who think we should be able to land anyone and be like the Warriors apparently. The expectations are just out of whack

Man, I don't read enough of those comments to counterbalance the ones about never getting any FAs.

Truth is, it is a 2-way street. There aren't that many FAs that PATFO would be willing to bring aboard. Most wouldn't fit into the Spurs culture, or they haven't gotten over themselves... I imagine that there are some guys who would consider signing here that Pop just wouldn't bother with. On the other hand, there are probably many more that wouldn't consider playing in SA or for an authoritarian coach.

[picnroll]

If Lebron wants to go to a team that he can take over the top he should go to the 76ers not the Lakers.

[DesignatedT]

I'm not sure why he fell five to eight slots from where he had been projected. But it's the draft...

I thought I read somewhere about his medical reports showing some concerns but I'm not sure what that could have been.

[rjv]

the comments that buford made really point to the spurs being willing to keep leonard for the upcoming season which would likely surprise uncle dennis. it may piss him off even more but it may also change the landscape enough for leonard to finally realize that money does matter and that the spurs are his best option. and the leonard to lakers scenario grows less and less likely over time.

[FkLA]

Eh, I don't know that Kawhitter will necessarily have to play just because they came out and said he is 100% right now. He could always fabricate another injury and all it would probably take is another "second opinion" to avoid getting in any legal trouble. Didn't he miss some games in between the 9 games he did play with like a sore shoulder?

Ideally, he falls in line and Dennis the Menace fucks off but I'm not holding my breath. I'm also not in favor of forcing Manu into retirement because of this faggot. If Manu want to play another year and Kawhi states he doesn't want him I say tough shit motherfucker. Parker I don't have a problem letting go, but not because of any comment he made about Kawhitter, just simply because he sucks and probably doesn't have a role on this team anymore. These are guys that will always be around the Spurs, I'm not kicking them on the ass on the way out the door for a guy who seemingly doesn't give a fuck about this organization.

[Extra Stout]

Watch what happens next — if LeBron re-ups 1+1 in Cleveland, and George does the same in OKC, it means the three of them are punting for the year and waiting out the end of Kawhi’s contract before they all go to LA.

[Marcus Bryant]

Watch what happens next — if LeBron re-ups 1+1 in Cleveland, and George does the same in OKC, it means the three of them are punting for the year and waiting out the end of Kawhi’s contract before they all go to LA.

I think James is bailing this offseason - why stick around even for one more year? LA was likely the master plan, now he just goes to Philly.

[daslicer]

Watch what happens next — if LeBron re-ups 1+1 in Cleveland, and George does the same in OKC, it means the three of them are punting for the year and waiting out the end of Kawhi’s contract before they all go to LA.

Yup that's my biggest fear Lebron and PG will do 1 year deals with their current teams.

[Mr. Body]

Watch what happens next — if LeBron re-ups 1+1 in Cleveland, and George does the same in OKC, it means the three of them are punting for the year and waiting out the end of Kawhi’s contract before they all go to LA.

Would OKC really do that? I don't know if they'd want to have a Paul George hanging around who's just burning time.

[YGWHI]

:lol Not sure why some people are making it seem like the Supermax is some sort of win for the front office if Kawhi accepts it....
Like RC said they'll offer him the supermax.. :lol

This is only strategy.
The Spurs aren't getting what they expected for Kawhi and RC is telling other teams "we're fine, we're not desperate, if you want our guy, you better improve your offer"

RC is just bluffing. They don't want to keep Kawhi, this is just part of the negotiations with other teams.

[monkeypunk]

I thought I read somewhere about his medical reports showing some concerns but I'm not sure what that could have been.

He tore his meniscus and then I think tore it a second time.

[Marcus Bryant]

Eh, I don't know that Kawhitter will necessarily have to play just because they came out and said he is 100% right now. He could always fabricate another injury and all it would probably take is another "second opinion" to avoid getting in any legal trouble. Didn't he miss some games in between the 9 games he did play with like a sore shoulder?

Ideally, he falls in line and Dennis the Menace fucks off but I'm not holding my breath. I'm also not in favor of forcing Manu into retirement because of this faggot. If Manu want to play another year and Kawhi states he doesn't want him I say tough shit motherfucker. Parker I don't have a problem letting go, but not because of any comment he made about Kawhitter, just simply because he sucks and probably doesn't have a role on this team anymore. These are guys that will always be around the Spurs, I'm not kicking them on the ass on the way out the door for a guy who seemingly doesn't give a fuck about this organization.

Between Boston and Philly you can get decent return for Leonard, if the stupidity continues. Let the clock run out on the supermax and make a deal. Start the rebuild in earnest and stockpile picks and young players.

[sasaint]

If Lebron wants to go to a team that he can take over the top he should go to the 76ers not the Lakers.

That's true on paper. Embiid's health will probably always be the big question mark in that equation, though.

[Marcus Bryant]

It's still a business. Leonard back to actually playing for you at an elite level and a working relationship restored is much better than the alternative.

[FkLA]

Would OKC really do that? I don't know if they'd want to have a Paul George hanging around who's just burning time.

And would LeGOAT be willing to waste a year given his age? I really doubt they'd wait around for Kawhi.

[sasaint]

Like RC said they'll offer him the supermax.. :lol

This is only strategy.
The Spurs aren't getting what they expected for Kawhi and RC is telling other teams "we're fine, we're not desperate, if you want our guy, you better improve your offer"

RC is just bluffing. They don't want to keep Kawhi, this is just part of the negotiations with other teams.

Interesting alternate take. I think we will know before the end of summer.

[exstatic]

Watch what happens next — if LeBron re-ups 1+1 in Cleveland, and George does the same in OKC, it means the three of them are punting for the year and waiting out the end of Kawhi’s contract before they all go to LA.

Unlikely, but if that happens, you call Jerry West, and take what he gives you. Kawhi then has a choice of re-upping, in LA, with Bird rights, or moving to the other locker room without them. That's a $40M haircut to wear a different uniform in your home town.

There are multiple paths to spike the Laker superteam. Spiking it is a LOT easier than trying to put it together. Putting it together requires a bunch of things to all go right. Spiking it requires only making one or two things go wrong.

[Marcus Bryant]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs' attitude has changed from frustrated/perplexed to fuck these jokers (Uncle/Leonard/LA) we are done with him and will do what we need to do to get the best value given the circumstances.

Lots of corporate speak and PR from the Spurs over the last 24 hours. They do still have to sell tickets...

[Marcus Bryant]

The Spurs did take West's call and listen to the offer.

[YGWHI]

Seriously what the fuck are you talking about? I told you tell me the injury and give me proof that injury can keep a player out as long as Kawhi.
If your ignorance doesn't allow you to realize that quad's ossifications (Kawhi's doctors diagnosis) and severe tendinopathies (Spurs' doctors) can keep a player out for an entire regular season...I can't help.


E]Plus you asked me a question? So you answers my question with another question? Again you’re talking in circles
No. I answered all your questions but you couldn't do the same...


Seriously what the fuck are you talking about?...
You seem so mad :lol

Like I've said before I'm having a good time and laughing at your reactions.

[Marcus Bryant]

Philly seems the obvious destination if he's traded.

[Extra Stout]

I think James is bailing this offseason - why stick around even for one more year? LA was likely the master plan, now he just goes to Philly.Possibly. It’s a 1-hour flight from Akron to Philly. He could keep his family where it is.

[r0drig0lac]

Yup that's my biggest fear Lebron and PG will do 1 year deals with their current teams.

anyone who believes that lebron and pg13 are going to delay a year of their life just for the purpose of playing with the "great Kawhi Leonard" is delusional (to say the least)

[baseline bum]

Watch what happens next — if LeBron re-ups 1+1 in Cleveland, and George does the same in OKC, it means the three of them are punting for the year and waiting out the end of Kawhi’s contract before they all go to LA.

It would be really tough to pull off since James, George, and Leonard would then make 95% of the cap. In fact in that scenario you're predicting it would be impossible for them to all get signed to max contracts from the Lakers since the ten empty roster spots under 12 they'd have when signing the last of the three would add a cap hit of almost 9% of the cap. The time they can do it is now when Leonard is making $20 million instead of the $32 million he'd be making next year on a max offer without any Bird Rights. It's not a huge paycut George and Leonard would have to take (James has already let it be known he will not take a cent less than max ever again after leaving Miami), but it would require Magic letting Randle walk for nothing this summer and then dumping every single thing on the roster before July 1st next summer. If Magic only gets Paul George this summer I'm not sure he lets Randle walk, especially when he'd still be in position to go after Kawhi even if he signed Randle to a max deal.

[Marcus Bryant]

Spurs (not exclusively) tend to make deals with friends. Philadelphia can give the Spurs a decent package for a rebuild. Also when it's apparent that the LA superteam is not happening then I think Leonard's group wouldn't balk going there and at least say the right things to get a deal done.

[baseline bum]

I think James is bailing this offseason - why stick around even for one more year? LA was likely the master plan, now he just goes to Philly.

I can't imagine him wasting another year in Cleveland. How could JR Smith running out the clock and costing them a Finals win not have been the last straw? :lol

[YGWHI]

If Pop doesn't want Kawhi on a Doc Rivers' team or any other possible WC playoffs team, he'd take that Wizards offer is the rumor is true.

There are many issues between Wall and Beal on/off court to keep both players...

If Grunfeld though that hiring Brooks would help them to get KD, he could be enough dumb to think Kawhi will say there after one year.

[baseline bum]

Spurs (not exclusively) tend to make deals with friends. Philadelphia can give the Spurs a decent package for a rebuild. Also when it's apparent that the LA superteam is not happening then I think Leonard's group wouldn't balk going there and at least say the right things to get a deal done.

Still gotta give Ainge a chance to beat that offer. Though the only way they can beat something centered on Fultz + Saric is to offer Tatum plus whatever matching salary to make the trade legal.

[Marcus Bryant]

I can't imagine him wasting another year in Cleveland. How could JR Smith running out the clock and costing them a Finals win not have been the last straw? :lol

Yes, and he stays in the East close to home with Philly. Also easier path to the Finals of course. If this plays out then Uncle Dennis will be leaking about wanting to go there. I think Spurs then work in earnest on negotiating a trade.

[Marcus Bryant]

Still gotta give Ainge a chance to beat that offer. Though the only way they can beat something centered on Fultz + Saric is to offer Tatum plus whatever matching salary to make the trade legal.

Absolutely. Best case scenario then is Boston and Philly fighting over Leonard with LeBron in Philly. Ainge will have to give up real value to compete.

[look_at_g_shred]

If Pop doesn't want Kawhi on a Doc Rivers' team or any other possible WC playoffs team, he'd take that Wizards offer is the rumor is true.

There are many issues between Wall and Beal on/off court to keep both players...

If Grunfeld though that hiring Brooks would help them to get KD, he could be enough dumb to think Kawhi will say there after one year.
What rumor? KL for Beal?

[Extra Stout]

It would be really tough to pull off since James, George, and Leonard would then make 95% of the cap. In fact in that scenario you're predicting it would be impossible for them to all get signed to max contracts from the Lakers since the ten empty roster spots under 12 they'd have when signing the last of the three would add a cap hit of almost 9% of the cap. The time they can do it is now when Leonard is making $20 million instead of the $32 million he'd be making next year on a max offer without any Bird Rights. It's not a huge paycut George and Leonard would have to take (James has already let it be known he will not take a cent less than max ever again after leaving Miami), but it would require Magic letting Randle walk for nothing this summer and then dumping every single thing on the roster before July 1st next summer. If Magic only gets Paul George this summer I'm not sure he lets Randle walk, especially when he'd still be in position to go after Kawhi even if he signed Randle to a max deal.This summer may have been the one shot then. Nice try, LeBron.

[Marcus Bryant]

Still gotta give Ainge a chance to beat that offer. Though the only way they can beat something centered on Fultz + Saric is to offer Tatum plus whatever matching salary to make the trade legal.

Saric, Fultz, Heat's 2021 1st, Zhaire.

[YGWHI]

What rumor? KL for Beal?
Yep.

[Marcus Bryant]

Saric, Fultz, Heat's 2021 1st, Zhaire.

Probably take back Bayless' contract too to make it work.

[Marcus Bryant]

Maybe the Spurs' relationship with Leonard can be restored, but is that going to happen in a month? Philly may need Leonard in the fold to recruit LeBron. If the Sixers are putting a reasonably good return in front of the Spurs do they pass? I don't think so. They have all the cover they need with the fanbase for moving Leonard.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Maybe the Spurs' relationship with Leonard can be restored, but is that going to happen in a month? Philly may need Leonard in the fold to recruit LeBron. If the Sixers are putting a reasonably good return in front of the Spurs do they pass? I don't think so. They have all the cover they need with the fanbase for moving Leonard.

I never took it as Philly being able to acquire LeBron AND Kawhi - I always thought it was one or the other. How do you see them realistically getting both?

[exstatic]

Absolutely. Best case scenario then is Boston and Philly fighting over Leonard with LeBron in Philly. Ainge will have to give up real value to compete.

This. Ainge CANNOT let a superteam form in Philly. With the Kyrie situation uncertain, even with their young talent, they ain't gettin' past LeBron and Kawhi. Their window could be shut.

[Marcus Bryant]

Also Leonard's group gets their move to a larger market, Uncle whoever is based in Philly/NJ and Leonard gets to play 2nd fiddle to LeBron. I think this works out for everyone as best it can. It's still gonna cost Leonard significantly. Presumably whatever endorsements he's missing out on in SA that he can get in a larger market will close the gap.

[exstatic]

I never took it as Philly being able to acquire LeBron AND Kawhi - I always thought it was one or the other. How do you see them realistically getting both?

Kawhi has to come via trade. He's not a FA this summer. They'll have a MAX slot for LeBron and a lot of assets and salary to trade.

[Marcus Bryant]

This. Ainge CANNOT let a superteam form in Philly. With the Kyrie situation uncertain, even with their young talent, they ain't gettin' past LeBron and Kawhi. Their window could be shut.

I saw some dumbass article about the Celtics getting Leonard with a sign and trade for Marcus Smart. Two worst fanbases in the NBA have to be the Lakers' and Celtics'.

[Marcus Bryant]

I never took it as Philly being able to acquire LeBron AND Kawhi - I always thought it was one or the other. How do you see them realistically getting both?

They have to send out enough salary of course for Leonard but they have the assets to make it work.

[Marcus Bryant]

If you're Philly do you not do everything you can to make LeBron+Embiid+Leonard+Simmons happen?

Look at what they did on draft night. Don't think maybe the interim GM in Philly is in touch with his buddies down south?

[baseline bum]

I never took it as Philly being able to acquire LeBron AND Kawhi - I always thought it was one or the other. How do you see them realistically getting both?

They have almost $53 million in capspace. They could sign LeBron for the max $35.4 million starting salary leaving about $18.3 million for them to try to bring Reddick and Bellinelli back. Really more like $19.2 million if they sign both since you can wipe away another $889k cap hold for an empty roster spot in that case. Give Reddick $12 million and Beli $7 million and you're good. They trade Fultz' $8.3 million, Saric's $3.3 million, Smith's $2.2 million and they're only about $2.3 million short from sending enough salary out so that Leonard's $20.1 million isn't more than 125% of the Sixers' outgoing salary. Philly has a variety of ways to hit that extra $2.3 million.

[YGWHI]

Maybe the Spurs' relationship with Leonard can be restored, but is that going to happen in a month?
No. The Spurs wants Kawhi to stop hearing other people voices, they're telling him there's no supermax and basically asking him to let his uncle.

That's why I've said before the Spurs don't want to keep Kawhi/RC comments are just part of trade-talks. They already know he won't fire his uncle since he's his father figure and his mom's loved brother.

[rasuo214]

I've said before Philly was probably the best trade option for the Spurs. They have the assets, they have the motivation (would help land Lebron and overtake the Celtics), and Brown is someone Pop wouldn't mind seeing succeed.

Edit: Reasons for Kawhi to re-sign with Philly: his doctor has ties to the Sixers, his uncle lives near Philly, it's a big market, he won't be forced to be the face of the franchise and it would be tough to leave a young superteam.

[Spurs da champs]

I think Philly should just go for Leonard or George. Having both LBJ and Simmons is redudnant.

[BackHome]

Yeah once they drafted Mikal Bridges a SF/SG who would fit perfectly with the Spurs I was like Hmmm maybe Philly trade.

[baseline bum]

Yeah once they drafted Mikal Bridges a SF/SG who would fit perfectly with the Spurs I was like Hmmm maybe Philly trade.

Bridges got traded to the Suns.

[Marcus Bryant]

Bridges got traded to the Suns.

"Hey Brett, ask them to draft Zhaire and for the Heat 2021 1st."

"Sure thing RC..."

[Marcus Bryant]

"Sorry Brett...BRB gotta take this it's Kawhi's dumbass Uncle..."

[baseline bum]

"Hey Brett, ask them to draft Zhaire and for the Heat 2021 1st."

"Sure thing RC..."

I hope no promises were made. If LeBron goes to Philly RC can tell Ainge give me Tatum and the Sacramento pick or you get to have another Warriors to compete with, except this one is in your division.

[Marcus Bryant]

"Ok im back"

"What'd the uncle want?"

"If we changed our position on the supermax. I told him that was still with the Holts. lol"

"Lulz"

"

[coachmac87]

Maybe the Spurs' relationship with Leonard can be restored, but is that going to happen in a month? Philly may need Leonard in the fold to recruit LeBron. If the Sixers are putting a reasonably good return in front of the Spurs do they pass? I don't think so. They have all the cover they need with the fanbase for moving Leonard.

Philly got an unprotected 2021 first round pick from Miami....

That's just more ammo for their "trade proposal"

[Marcus Bryant]

I hope no promises were made. If LeBron goes to Philly RC can tell Ainge give me Tatum and the Sacramento pick or you get to have another Warriors to compete with, except this one is in your division.

Yeah, still you think at this point the Celtics have communicated their general offer. Also Ainge probably thinks he can assrape everyone.

[Marcus Bryant]

If I had to guess the conversation with Philly is more along the lines of 'what would you be looking for.

Well, young players and picks

[Russ]

I can tell you right now, LA sports radio is freaking out due to the Spurs' silence.

Good things come to those who wait. :toast

[Twisted_Dawg]

Watch what happens next — if LeBron re-ups 1+1 in Cleveland, and George does the same in OKC, it means the three of them are punting for the year and waiting out the end of Kawhi’s contract before they all go to LA.
Why would George sign a 1+1 in OKC and risk an injury ruining his career? I would think at his age he is looking for a 4 year guaranteed contract.

[rasuo214]

I hope no promises were made. If LeBron goes to Philly RC can tell Ainge give me Tatum and the Sacramento pick or you get to have another Warriors to compete with, except this one is in your division.

I know Tatum had the better rookie year but it's only been 1 season and it wouldn't be a highly touted Philly draft pick if he didn't miss the first season. Tatum and the Sac pick (still don't see it happening but lets pretend) would be the safer route but the Philly package has more potential attached to it.

[Marcus Bryant]

I think Philly should just go for Leonard or George. Having both LBJ and Simmons is redudnant.

Then start the ask with Simmons.

[Mr. Body]

This. Ainge CANNOT let a superteam form in Philly. With the Kyrie situation uncertain, even with their young talent, they ain't gettin' past LeBron and Kawhi. Their window could be shut.

Boston's window isn't shutting any time soon, no matter what happens in Philly.

[Spurs da champs]

Then start the ask with Simmons.
I agree.

[Marcus Bryant]

I can tell you right now, LA sports radio is freaking out due to the Spurs' silence.

Good things come to those who wait. :toast

:tu

Likely stunned the Spurs aren't going to deal him to the Lakers for a bag of chips.

[NASpurs]

So true.

How do you even plan anything if everything's up in the air.

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[Marcus Bryant]

Unless this has been one big joke all along and it's LeBron to SA...