Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[Mugen]

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No fucking shit they haven't offered the supermax :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Wonder if this thread will reach 600 pages.

Whats the most pages in a spurstalk thread? All time?

[marinoman]

Ship hit an iceberg, not sure we’ll survive, but fuck it id rather go down with it then help the lakers

[SuperCam]

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PATFO can choose between Saric/Covington and Ball/Kuzma at best, tbh. Should have traded him before LeBron made his announcement, that was a fuck up that will cost them

[toki9]

Hold on...so the Lakers just signed Lebron, Lance "I blow at your ear" Stephenson and Javale "Weirdest Pony Tail in History" McGee...and they already have the Ball Pere and the concomitant craziness...that's going to be an interesting locker room...sounds perfect for Kawhi.

[MoSpur02]

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It's not severed the way the media makes it seem It's that Kawhi wants a supermax deal and the Spurs are reluctant to offer it because of questions about his health.

[Birn]

I'm confused, is Randle not going there next year? Have they moved on?

They still have the ability to match any offers that Randle signs as a restricted free agent. The problem it creates for the Lakers is that rival teams will likely sign Randle to an offer sheet with a bunch of "poison pill" provisions (no trade clauses, expensive trade kickers, huge bonuses that are easily achieved, etc.). On top of that, Randle will likely get an offer that is well above his market value. If the Lakers match any reasonable offer for Randle, it basically prevents them from having enough cap space to sign any top tier free agents. If they want to sign KL next offseason, they'll have to let go of Randle and also trade one or two other players on their roster plus waive and stretch Luol Deng's contract.

Just signing Caldwell Pope and Stephenson to 1 year deals doesn't create enough cap space for them to sign KL.

The Spurs need to hold onto KL unless the Lakers give up Kuzma, Hart, Ingram, picks, and get Randle to agree to a S&T to the Spurs. That's the only deal I would accept. Otherwise, we're better off keeping Leonard and let him play out the rest of his contract.

[marinoman]

PATFO can choose between Saric/Covington and Ball/Kuzma at best, tbh. Should have traded him before LeBron made his announcement, that was a fuck up that will cost them
Maybe they think there’s a glimmer of hope when pop sees kawhi in 3 weeks

[JPB]

A guy who was on a little break these past couple of weeks asking about the situation ?

So bro,

Group said they wanted a trade and preferably to the Lakers

Then Group said they's only resign with the Lakers

Group blames Parker for hurting Kawhito's little feelings

Kawhito not happy in SA

Kawhito's a doc whore who shopped any dude around with a med degree and no ethics who'd take his money to say he has to sit out last year

Group says Kawhito would consider resigning with Sixers

Group says Kawhito would sit out next year...

What's next ?

Kawhi setting himself on fire in front of the AT&T center or revealing state secrets to Kim-Jun-hung if Spurs don't trade him to the LA for a couple burritos and a bud ?

[Ice009]

Maybe they think there’s a glimmer of hope when pop sees kawhi in 3 weeks

What's he supposed to see him for? Where/when was that reported?

[lmbebo]

Maybe they think there’s a glimmer of hope when pop sees kawhi in 3 weeks


Doubt kawhi shows up. He'll be injured all over again.

[TekXX]

The Spurs made the right decision not trading, these are shit offers

[ElNono]

crofl Stephenson and Javele, finally some good news :lol

:lol heck, the Spurs might be wise to wait out the year and trade Kawhi for Lebron after a potential disgusting season...

[Ice009]

:lol heck, the Spurs might be wise to wait out the year and trade Kawhi for Lebron after a potential disgusting season...

Don't trade him there. I'd like to see the Spurs try and finish higher (even if KL sits) than the Lakers. Just DO NOT trade KL to the Lakers. Fuck, Lebron.

[marinoman]

What's he supposed to see him for? Where/when was that reported?
According to windhorst and nicolas he’ll be there for olympic training camp.

[cjw]

Maybe they think there’s a glimmer of hope when pop sees kawhi in 3 weeks

He should send him home from Team USA camp and guarantee LMA a gold medal in two years

[Atl Spur]

It's not severed the way the media makes it seem It's that Kawhi wants a supermax deal and the Spurs are reluctant to offer it because of questions about his health.

This!

[MoSpur02]

They still have the ability to match any offers that Randle signs as a restricted free agent. The problem it creates for the Lakers is that rival teams will likely sign Randle to an offer sheet with a bunch of "poison pill" provisions (no trade clauses, expensive trade kickers, huge bonuses that are easily achieved, etc.). On top of that, Randle will likely get an offer that is well above his market value. If the Lakers match any reasonable offer for Randle, it basically prevents them from having enough cap space to sign any top tier free agents. If they want to sign KL next offseason, they'll have to let go of Randle and also trade one or two other players on their roster plus waive and stretch Luol Deng's contract.

Just signing Caldwell Pope and Stephenson to 1 year deals doesn't create enough cap space for them to sign KL.

The Spurs need to hold onto KL unless the Lakers give up Kuzma, Hart, Ingram, picks, and get Randle to agree to a S&T to the Spurs. That's the only deal I would accept. Otherwise, we're better off keeping Leonard and let him play out the rest of his contract.

This

[marinoman]

He should send him home from Team USA camp and guarantee LMA a gold medal in two years
Trade kawhi to Nigeria

[SuperCam]

The Spurs made the right decision not trading, these are shit offers

and they are only going to get shittier now that LeBraginka is holding a max slot for Kiwi in 2019 no matter what. PATFO could have at least gotten Phila to offer more with the idea that they'd have been more attractive destination for lebron now they don't even have that.

[rascal]

Maybe they think there’s a glimmer of hope when pop sees kawhi in 3 weeks

Give it up. Kawhi has already spoken with James and he is going to the Lakers for sure now. James made the first move.

[lmbebo]

It's not severed the way the media makes it seem It's that Kawhi wants a supermax deal and the Spurs are reluctant to offer it because of questions about his health.

At this point, I offer it just to fuck over the lakers, lebron and the league

[Down Under]

If he refuses to play the first 30 days without injury the Spurs can stop him from entering free agency next summer :lol

[rascal]

PATFO can choose between Saric/Covington and Ball/Kuzma at best, tbh. Should have traded him before LeBron made his announcement, that was a fuck up that will cost them

Agree
Draft night was the time to move Leonard. They should have been more aggressive in looking to land a top 10 draft pick in a strong draft and players. there were teams still interested on draft night. Those teams have pulled their interest now.

[Spurs da champs]

At this point it doesn't hurt to offer the supermax. Spurs looking foolish more and more since rejecting Clippers draft day offer.

[TekXX]

and they are only going to get shittier now that LeBraginka is holding a max slot for Kiwi in 2019 no matter what. PATFO could have at least gotten Phila to offer more with the idea that they'd have been more attractive destination for lebron now they don't even have that.

Ehh Phila knew exactly what their odds were with Lebron, and they weren't good.

[Ice009]

If he refuses to play the first 30 days without injury the Spurs can stop him from entering free agency next summer :lol

Really? How long can they stop him from entering free agency for? That sounds very interesting.

[tholdren]

and they are only going to get shittier now that LeBraginka is holding a max slot for Kiwi in 2019 no matter what. PATFO could have at least gotten Phila to offer more with the idea that they'd have been more attractive destination for lebron now they don't even have that.

They dont even need to trade him. Are you really that dumb?

[Ice009]

Desperation is for losers. Don't cave, play it out as long as you have to. Don't let yourselves get screwed over, Spurs.

[Russ]

He should send him home from Team USA camp and guarantee LMA a gold medal in two years

Has Kawhi ever shown any interest in playing for Team USA? Ever?

And why would he now?

[SuperCam]

At this point it doesn't hurt to offer the supermax. Spurs looking foolish more and more since rejecting Clippers draft day offer.

PATFO turning down two lottery picks for a player who will never suit up again for them might be worse than Fatty's terrible contract tbh :lol

[bdictjames]

I don't blame the Spurs.

Tbh, we'll still be competitive, even without Kawhi.

[Down Under]

Really? How long can they stop him from entering free agency for? That sounds very interesting.
Until the Spurs give him permission to negotiate/sign a contract. He's broken a contract that is binding under the CBA. Obviously it will never happen because neither side would want the mess, but theoretically it can be done.

[Spurs9]

At this point it doesn't hurt to offer the supermax. Spurs looking foolish more and more since rejecting Clippers draft day offer.

:lol Todays spurstalk posters

[eDizzle20]

The Spurs made the right decision not trading, these are shit offers
Agreed. Don’t rush into a garbage trade. They have until February. If he plays at superstar level those trade offers will be better. If he wants to be an unrestricted free agent after next season he can’t just sit out based on the cba rules.

[K...]

PATFO turning down two lottery picks for a player who will never suit up again for them might be worse than Fatty's terrible contract tbh :lol

Which players at 11 and 18 would you pick? 10 is Lonnie based on reports. In effect the offer is one lottery pick one mid first.

Even the shit offers from Lakers and Philly can out rank whatever combination you think of

[bdictjames]

Love what the Spurs are doing, if they're waiting. You don't screw the Spurs over.

[loveforthegame]

Will the Lakers have a max slot next summer?

[eDizzle20]

Desperation is for losers. Don't cave, play it out as long as you have to. Don't let yourselves get screwed over, Spurs.
The Spurs won’t. They’ll have him play the season before trading him for scraps.

[RD2191]

Will the Lakers have a max slot next summer?

Yes

[loveforthegame]

Yes

I figured with all these one year signings. So they’ll just wait and sign Leonard next summer since they know the Spurs are not trading him there.

[BackHome]

I am perfectly fine making Kawhi show up next year for practice. I am not OK sending him to the Flakers this summer.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I figured with all these one year signings. So they’ll just wait and sign Leonard next summer since they know the Spurs are not trading him there.

Yeah, they know we arent trading to them. Hence the ridiculous ultimatum of tomorrow and all these one year deals. They are gonna try and wait it out. Whatever, hope Lebron blows his knee the fuck out and Kawhi gets ebola.

[RD2191]

I figured with all these one year signings. So they’ll just wait and sign Leonard next summer since they know the Spurs are not trading him there.

Yup. Pretty much what they're banking on.

[Bynumite]

:lmao @ Poop fucking himself and the spurs future over because of a personal senile vendetta against the Lakers :lmao

With Lebron in LA, teams now won't give the spurs shit for a certified 1 year rental. Should've pulled the trigger asap.

Once again Poop tries to be cute and doing too much ends up costing the spurs :lmao

[Spurs 4 The Win]

:lmao @ Poop fucking himself and the spurs future over because of a personal senile vendetta against the Lakers :lmao

With Lebron in LA, teams now won't give the spurs shit for a certified 1 year rental. Should've pulled the trigger asap.

Once again Poop tries to be cute and doing too much ends up costing the spurs :lmao

Oh hey, its a faggot bandwagoner.

[cutewizard]

Those are generally poor kids and coaches paid ungodly sums for mediocre performance by state governments.

This is a spoiled mute worth in the eight figures vs. the most respected FO in sports.


:bobo

[mystargtr34]

Bynumite sounding mad that the Lakers gonna have to wait a year for Kawhi :lol.. LeBron will be nearly 36 by the time the 2020 playoffs role around.. prob still won’t beat the Warriors even with Kawhi at that point tbh.

[apalisoc_9]

:lmao @ Poop fucking himself and the spurs future over because of a personal senile vendetta against the Lakers :lmao

With Lebron in LA, teams now won't give the spurs shit for a certified 1 year rental. Should've pulled the trigger asap.

Once again Poop tries to be cute and doing too much ends up costing the spurs :lmao

But I am smarter than everyone.

Its the typical poop move.

Kawhi gets 30 by the end of third. Procceed to think he.can win wuthout playing him again the fourth to show off that its about his coaching. Panics with 5 minutes left and recalls leonard.

At that point momentum is gone. Too late.

Proceeds to.blame his players "ball didnt go in the hole"

[LkrFan]

Yeah, they know we arent trading to them. Hence the ridiculous ultimatum of tomorrow and all these one year deals. They are gonna try and wait it out. Whatever, hope Lebron blows his knee the fuck out and Kawhi gets ebola.

:lol

[Hoops Czar]

What about this?... Did not go through the last 10 pages so don't know if it was posted already.
Kiwi ready to sit out next season if he isn't traded.
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All you had to do was look up one post.

[Spurs da champs]

:lol Todays spurstalk posters

Well I've been here since 08, but lol at the idiots trying to convince themselves that losing Kawhi out of spite for nothing is the way to go.

[MannyIsGod]

Wonder if this thread will reach 600 pages.

Whats the most pages in a spurstalk thread? All time?

This is nowhere near the max.

[mystargtr34]

Lakerfan gonna enjoy being Cavs West next season and the second round exit :lol.

[midnightpulp]

:lmao @ Poop fucking himself and the spurs future over because of a personal senile vendetta against the Lakers :lmao

With Lebron in LA, teams now won't give the spurs shit for a certified 1 year rental. Should've pulled the trigger asap.

Once again Poop tries to be cute and doing too much ends up costing the spurs :lmao

Isn't this a blessing in disguise for you, though? No shortage of criticism from you about how overrated and mentally weak the retard "superstar" is. And now Lebron is no longer LeBeta? You're being a cuck. Step up and stand behind your takes, bro.

[ECOV]

:lmao @ Poop fucking himself and the spurs future over because of a personal senile vendetta against the Lakers :lmao

With Lebron in LA, teams now won't give the spurs shit for a certified 1 year rental. Should've pulled the trigger asap.

Once again Poop tries to be cute and doing too much ends up costing the spurs :lmao

Lmao get your dick head out of your mouth, there no vendetta pop won't make a super team . nobody going to take that shitty lakers deal of shitty laker players.

[CGD]

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With what we know now, Spurs should just ride it out with him this year. A number of things can happen by the deadline, like the Honnymoon ends sooner than expected if the Lakers stumble out of the gate and James starts to agitate for Lakers to make a serious offer; Philly sees their gap with Boston grow and they get antsy; or some dark horse who has a surprise seasons feels they’re a peice away for a deep run next year.

Whats more at this point, we all expect the spurs to get severely lowballed. Do they really want Saric/RoCo or Kuzma/Deng NOW, if they can just get those types of players during free agency in 2019 after Leonard walks? What’s the point?

Just wait, make Leonard sweat.

[Spurs9]

Well I've been here since 08, but lol at the idiots trying to convince themselves that losing Kawhi out of spite for nothing is the way to go.
Why would the Spurs ever consider bringing Kawhi back at this point with how bad he has tarnished the organization and killed trade value thus far?

[Bynumite]

Bynumite sounding mad that the Lakers gonna have to wait a year for Kawhi :lol.. LeBron will be nearly 36 by the time the 2020 playoffs role around.. prob still won’t beat the Warriors even with Kawhi at that point tbh.

Wrong. I never wanted the Lakers to sell the farm for Kiwi but now that Lebron committed that will no longer be necessary :toast I love Ingram and Kuzma.

Poop played himself, congrats :lol

[rascal]

At this point it doesn't hurt to offer the supermax. Spurs looking foolish more and more since rejecting Clippers draft day offer.

It is not a money issue. The supermax won't keep Kawhi in San Antonio. He wants out and will not be playing for the spurs next year. The Spurs will cave in and take a Laker trade. They are not going to want to deal with the drama all season long by keeping Kawhi.

[ducks]

Men sweet bitches glisten

[ECOV]

Why would the Spurs ever consider bringing Kawhi back at this point with how bad he has tarnished the organization and killed trade value thus far?

Because they can fix the relationship

[ECOV]

Wrong. I never wanted the Lakers to sell the farm for Kiwi but now that Lebron committed that will no longer be necessary :toast I love Ingram and Kuzma.

Poop played himself, congrats :lol

Lmao dud

[ducks]

It is not a money issue. The supermax won't keep Kawhi in San Antonio. He wants out and will not be playing for the spurs next year. The Spurs will cave in and take a Laker trade. They are not going to want to deal with the drama all season long by keeping Kawhi.

Pop would put an end to the media crap on Leonard

[mystargtr34]

Wrong. I never wanted the Lakers to sell the farm for Kiwi but now that Lebron committed that will no longer be necessary :toast I love Ingram and Kuzma.

Poop played himself, congrats :lol

You think Lebron-Ingram-Kuzma can beat the Warriors next season?

[Spurs9]

Because they can fix the relationship

:lol

[Spurs9]

You think Lebron-Ingram-Kuzma can beat the Warriors next season?

Don't forget Javale and Lance :wakeup

[ECOV]

:lol
You laugh I smile

[Mr. Body]

You think Lebron-Ingram-Kuzma can beat the Warriors next season?

All good Lakers fans know Ingram wasn't worth trading for Kawhi because he's even better.

Now the Lake Show has Lance Stephenson and Jevale McGee and Lonzo's dad is still around. This team is a circus.

[Down Under]

I still can't believe LeBron didn't tell Magic - trade for Kawhi this Summer or I'm not signing. He's got 4 years against the best team ever, when he's already 34, in a conference where they're not even the 2nd best team. Surely he must have told him to fuckin get him now. Moreso, they met after PG signed with OKC, anything could happen - Clippers could even get a third team involved with a couple of young guys, Harris & a few first rounders to get Kawhi.

[ECOV]

All good Lakers fans know Ingram wasn't worth trading for Kawhi because he's even better.

Now the Lake Show has Lance Stephenson and Jevale McGee and Lonzo's dad is still around. This team is a circus.

A circus that go out of business once LeBrons out

[Spurs9]

I still can't believe LeBron didn't tell Magic - trade for Kawhi this Summer or I'm not signing. He's got 4 years against the best team ever, when he's already 34, in a conference where they're not even the 2nd best team. Surely he must have told him to fuckin get him now. Moreso, they met after PG signed with OKC, anything could happen - Clippers could even get a third team involved with a couple of young guys, Harris & a few first rounders to get Kawhi.

2nd best? They are probably a 7 seed.

[Down Under]

2nd best? They are probably a 7 seed.
Probably :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

I still can't believe LeBron didn't tell Magic - trade for Kawhi this Summer or I'm not signing. He's got 4 years against the best team ever, when he's already 34, in a conference where they're not even the 2nd best team. Surely he must have told him to fuckin get him now. Moreso, they met after PG signed with OKC, anything could happen - Clippers could even get a third team involved with a couple of young guys, Harris & a few first rounders to get Kawhi.
He doesn't care about winning anymore. He's basically using the Lakers to retire without actually retiring.

[cutewizard]

Hold on...so the Lakers just signed Lebron, Lance "I blow at your ear" Stephenson and Javale "Weirdest Pony Tail in History" McGee...and they already have the Ball Pere and the concomitant craziness...that's going to be an interesting locker room...sounds perfect for Kawhi.

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Add Carmelo and Cousins to that mix and BOOM!

[cutewizard]

He doesn't care about winning anymore. He's basically using the Lakers to retire without actually retiring.

:bobo

[SuperCam]

"doesnt care abotu winning"

that team wins 55 games at least starting next year and then 60 something when Kiwi arrives. spur fan laker antibias denial all time high now :lol

[Mr. Body]

"doesnt care abotu winning"

that team wins 55 games at least starting next year and then 60 something when Kiwi arrives. spur fan laker antibias denial all time high now :lol

You're still slapping LeBron onto a crappy non-playoff team. He's not Jesus Christ.

[Clipper Nation]

"doesnt care abotu winning"

that team wins 55 games at least starting next year and then 60 something when Kiwi arrives. spur fan laker antibias denial all time high now :lol

Lots of empty regular-season wins and no rings.

[toki9]

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Add Carmelo and Cousins to that mix and BOOM!

That could actually happen...

[SuperCam]

Lots of empty regular-season wins and no rings.

that team rings starting in 2020 by which time Stephanie's ankles are done, draymond is gone, and Kiwi is still in his prime :toast

[Clipper Nation]

that team rings starting in 2020 by which time Stephanie's ankles are done, draymond is gone, and Kiwi is still in his prime :toast

:lol Riiiight. Meanwhile, LeBron will be how old by then?

[SuperCam]

:lol Riiiight. Meanwhile, LeBron will be how old by then?

who will stop him? "cp0 and frauden" as you like to call them? lollard? anthony davis and rondo? not the Showers without draymond and stephs injuries piling up on the wrong side of 30.


though I suppose Kyrie's celtics will win a few titles too :toast

[Clipper Nation]

who will stop him?

The Warriors. Durbeta will probably play for the veteran's minimum if need be in order to keep collecting easy rings - he's that much of a coward.

[Ice009]

Men sweet bitches glisten

Stop with this stupid shtick. Right now I'm pissed off, too pissed off to see this retarded shtick. If you fix computers, how the fuck do you not know how to type correctly?

[Thebesteva]

Surrender your franchise player

[SpursforSix]

The Warriors. Durbeta will probably play for the veteran's minimum if need be in order to keep collecting easy rings - he's that much of a coward.

Durant will just jump to the Lakers if he thinks the tide is turning.

[NASpurs]

Probably doesn't matter in the long run but who knows

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[Ice009]

Surrender your franchise player

Where's that Mitch Kupchak gif?

Personally, I'd still rather trade with Philadelphia even more now that Lebron isn't signing with them (doesn't help the Spurs leverage, though). I like Embiid a lot as he can be the next great big man, and after starting to follow Basketball in the early 90s, I'm always more preferential to a great big man over a small. I think if the Warriors are going to be beat, it's going to be with a team that has a great big man. I like Brett Brown and wouldn't mind helping him out now that Lebron isn't going there. He started to win me over after the 2005 finals where I think he showed the team a video of him playing high school ball to lighten the mood after one of the tough loses to the Pistons in the finals.

As long as the Spurs get decent value back, I'd rather trade with Philadelphia. Boston, I'd only be interested in if Tatum is a part of the deal. Otherwise, they can fuck off too. Not a big fan of the Celtics. Philadelphia was my second favourite team in the 90s after the Spurs for a 3 to 4 year stretch. The first 3 or 4 years with Iverson, I was a fan. I stopped being a fan when Iverson started getting really selfish, though.

[TDomination]

At this point I will be happy with ANY scenario where kawhi is NOT traded to the Lakers.

[TekXX]

Can we just be happy that Kawhi is pissed right now?

[cutewizard]

That could actually happen...


:bobo

[cutewizard]

At this point I will be happy with ANY scenario where kawhi is NOT traded to the Lakers.


:toast

[Ice009]

Let's try and get a good deal done with Philly.

Lakers and Celtics can get fucked.

I don't see why Philadelphia wouldn't have a lot of incentive to do this. They can get one over on the Celtics and own the East for years to come. They can get the Celtics back for the 80s and take over the conference right now.

[SuperCam]

Let's try and get a good deal done with Philly.

Lakers and Celtics can get fucked.

I don't see why Philadelphia wouldn't have a lot of incentive to do this. They can get one over on the Celtics and own the East for years to come. They can get the Celtics back for the 80s and take over the conference right now.

kiwi sure as fuck isn't resigning in shitaelphia with a max slot open for LA :lol

[LakerHater]

Because they can fix the relationship

I read that the reason Lenard & his group is pissed is cuz initially Spurs told him they wouldn't offer the Super Max, they wanted to use the money to build around him!!
So I'm guessing the Super Max might help but could b too late!

[Ditty]

At this point I think Philly both help each other, not poke one another in the eye & settle down their demands with their good relationship with Brett Brown.

Philly knows they are not good enough to beat Boston also without a third superstar.

Kawhi & Mills for Fultz, Miami's 2021 1st rounder and Smith or Bolden/Luwawu-Cabarrot. This would give Philly a good shot to beat Boston to get to the finals next season that could convince Kawhi to re-sign there.

[D12]

I’m not kidding or trolling when I say this: it’s over for the Spurs. It is inevitable that Kawhi returns to LA. The Spurs are just sourgrapes rn.

[pad300]

Of course Kawhi can sit out a year and of course any other star can do the same. Are ya'll fucking stupid? You don't have to do the fucking job if you don't want to. These dude's aren't slaves.

Yeah, actually they can:

https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1013608716816527360

If I was running the Spurs, I would declare that he has been sitting of his own volition since the Spurs last medical exam (where they and his then medical team cleared him to resume playing). That's more than 30 days. Then I would never agree to him taking another contract with an NBA team... Go play in China or somewhere, but never in the NBA.

[rasuo214]

Unless the Lakers sell out (and even then I'm not sure I'd do it) I'd rather trade Kawhi to Philly. If the Spurs are going to get screwed in a trade then Pop might as well help out a former protege.

[rascal]

Let's try and get a good deal done with Philly.

Lakers and Celtics can get fucked.

I don't see why Philadelphia wouldn't have a lot of incentive to do this. They can get one over on the Celtics and own the East for years to come. They can get the Celtics back for the 80s and take over the conference right now.

Too late for that. That window for a trade with Phil was open on draft night. That is when the Spurs needed to aggressively look to make a trade.

[tbdog]

I would say that Mills and Leonard for Smith, Covington and Saric plus 1 sixers first and the heat first. I would prefer Ingram, Randal sign and trade, Kuz plus Lakers 2021 pick plus top 5 protected 1st from a lottery team that takes Lonzo, ie Magic or Knicks.

[SuperCam]

At this point I think Philly both help each other, not poke one another in the eye & settle down their demands with their good relationship with Brett Brown.

Philly knows they are not good enough to beat Boston also without a third superstar.

Kawhi & Mills for Fultz, Miami's 2021 1st rounder and Smith or Bolden/Luwawu-Cabarrot. This would give Philly a good shot to beat Boston to get to the finals next season that could convince Kawhi to re-sign there.


Brett Brown isn't coach Bud's dumbass trading for injured goods in Tiago Shitter. that haul is off the table now with Lebron and capsace open in laker land 2019. PATFO waited too long

[Uriel]

I said it before and I'll say it again: DO NOT TRADE KAWHI. Play out the year, have him prove he's healthy, THEN offer him the supermax next summer. I GUARANTEE YOU he will NOT walk away from that.

[Chillen]

Good news for the Eastern Conference this means any team 1-8 has a shot at the NBA Finals. LeBron made it to the NBA Finals in the East for 8 straight seasons it's over now.

LeBron is going to have a very hard time getting out of the 1st round in the West if the Lakers make the playoffs.

[cutewizard]

I don't blame the Spurs.

Tbh, we'll still be competitive, even without Kawhi.


:bobo

[Uriel]

So MANY THINGS CAN CHANGE in a year. SO MANY. The relationship is bad now, but if he plays a full season with the Spurs and the team makes the WCF? He'll get over it. Time heals all wounds.

[Mr. Body]

kiwi sure as fuck isn't resigning in shitaelphia with a max slot open for LA :lol

Unless LA is a total shitshow and Philly goes deep.

[Ice009]

Brett Brown isn't coach Bud's dumbass trading for injured goods in Tiago Shitter. that haul is off the table now with Lebron and capsace open in laker land 2019. PATFO waited too long

I'm not really interested in anything you've got to say, Cum Newton. Dive on that loose ball next time, bitch.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm not really interested in anything you've got to say, Cum Newton. Dive on that lose ball next time, bitch.

:lol

[Holden_Caulfield]

its going to be a long summer for spurs fan. hopefully summer league will provide some excitement.

[Mugen]

:lol I mean Boston has the Eastern Conference locked up for the foreseeable future. I guess Philly can try and run it back again and hope Fultz pans out but getting a player like Leonard without giving up Simmons/Embiid seems a lot easier.

[Ice009]

Unless LA is a total shitshow and Philly goes deep.

I'm pretty sure Philadelphia would have the best chance to make finals if all their major pieces on the team are healthy. I don't think the Lakers have anywhere near as good of a chance, so I don't know why Cum Newton is saying there's no way he'd stay there. I'm pretty sure Kawhi would love it there, and if he gets year round trips to the finals, why would he want to go to the Lakers? The dumb LA fans don't even want to trade scrubs for him. The Philadelphia fans would appreciate him way more. If he's 100% healthy, he might end up being the best player on the court for them, but Embiid and Simmons will get all the media attention if Kawhi doesn't want it. It could be the perfect situation for him.

[SuperCam]

I'm not really interested in anything you've got to say, Cum Newton. Dive on that lose ball next time, bitch.


Fuck the Lakers and their gutter trash. Ainge needs to up his offer. I'd take Kyrie and Jaylen Brown at this point over the Lakers garbage.


damn your dip shit ass thought an offer like brown and kyrie was on the table, no wonder you sound bitter as fuck :lol


:madrun show kiwi this isn't acceptable bench him for the whole year :madrun

:lmao

[Ice009]

damn your dip shit ass thought an offer like brown and kyrie was on the table, no wonder you sound bitter as fuck :lol


:madrun show kiwi this isn't acceptable bench him for the whole year :madrun

:lmao

DIVE ON THAT FUCKING LOOSE BALL. Shut the fuck up.

I'm just not interested in listening to someone who won't dive on a loose ball when playing in a Superbowl. What kind of shit is that? That's worse than Durant going to the Warriors, that's worse than Kawhi wanting out, that's worse than Lebron going to the Lakers.

What kind of pussy wouldn't dive on a loose ball in the Superbowl? Get that weak ass shit out of here. I don't bend and break like you do.

[-21-]

Spurs lost a little leverage with Philly. If they still won't give Fultz I'd take Saric, Covington, Bolden, Philly 2021 1st, Miami 2021 1st. Fuck the Magic and the Lakers.

[Ice009]

Spurs lost a little leverage with Philly. If they still won't give Fultz I'd take Saric, Covington, Bolden, Philly 2021 1st, Miami 2021 1st. Fuck the Magic and the Lakers.

They lost a little leverage, but does Philadelphia want to play second fiddle to Boston all over again? It'd be like the 80s for them again where Boston dominates the conference.

[offset formation]

https://youtu.be/JdKI1wj-JpI

:lmao

[SuperCam]

thinking sixers will bail out spur fan when they wouldn't even make the trade before Lebron went to LA and made it obvious they are waiting for 2019 :lmao

[DPG21920]

So the “last” piece of leverage is Randle. That is a MASSIVE question for Spurs I am sure. If LA re-signs Randle, especially for what the market appears to be on him (look at Gordon’s deal for ORL), then LA will not have max cap space next year to sign Kawhi even if they rid themselves of Deng somehow. So lets say Randle gets 18M a year & LA waives/stretches Deng & renounces all FA next year (while Keeping Lonzo/Ingram/Kuz/Hart) they would only have about 16M in cap space. If they can trade Deng w/no salary coming back they could get to about 22M. Still no where near Kawhi max.

[cutewizard]

I said it before and I'll say it again: DO NOT TRADE KAWHI. Play out the year, have him prove he's healthy, THEN offer him the supermax next summer. I GUARANTEE YOU he will NOT walk away from that.


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How about his alleged refusal to even walk into that locker room>>??

[Chinook]

DIVE ON THAT FUCKING LOOSE BALL. Shut the fuck up.

I'm just not interested in listening to someone who won't dive on a loose ball when playing in a Superbowl. What kind of shit is that? That's worse than Durant going to the Warriors, that's worse than Kawhi wanting out, that's worse than Lebron going to the Lakers.

What kind of pussy wouldn't dive on a loose ball in the Superbowl? Get that weak ass shit out of here. I don't bend and break like you do.

:lol no wonder this guy has been sucking Kawhi's dick all year. Dude has a thing for quitters.

[cutewizard]

Good news for the Eastern Conference this means any team 1-8 has a shot at the NBA Finals. LeBron made it to the NBA Finals in the East for 8 straight seasons it's over now.

LeBron is going to have a very hard time getting out of the 1st round in the West if the Lakers make the playoffs.

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:bobo

[cjw]

So the “last” piece of leverage is Randle. That is a MASSIVE question for Spurs I am sure. If LA re-signs Randle, especially for what the market appears to be on him (look at Gordon’s deal for ORL), then LA will not have max cap space next year to sign Kawhi even if they rid themselves of Deng somehow. So lets say Randle gets 18M a year & LA waives/stretches Deng & renounces all FA next year (while Keeping Lonzo/Ingram/Kuz/Hart) they would only have about 16M in cap space. If they can trade Deng w/no salary coming back they could get to about 22M. Still no where near Kawhi max.

No way in hell are they matching the Randle deal should one come. Want to maintain flexibility.

Though could match it with intention of trading it away mid-season to pick up another asset. Can’t trade him to team that signs offer sheet for a year though.

[pad300]

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How about his alleged refusal to even walk into that locker room>>??

Let him not show up. Don't care.

[Ice009]

:lol no wonder this guy has been sucking Kawhi's dick all year. Dude has a thing for quitters.

Good point, I never thought of that. This guy definitely knows about quitting.

[LakerHater]

Now LeBron wants to keep Ingram & Kuz!

[DPG21920]

So here’s the math with Randle making some assumptions: http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=17230720895b39bc874918f994530659

I used Aaron Gordon as a reference with Randle’s next contract. I used 18M as the year one salary for Randle (which is about 2M less than Gordon probably got).

I then assumed that next year LA renounced every single player except: Lebron, Randle, Ingram, Lonzo, Kuzma and Hart and that they waived and stretched Deng. I also assumed they would have the 20th pick in the draft.

If all that happens, they would have 17M in cap space roughly. So well short of Kawhi’s max who would already be down a lot of money. If they somehow moved Deng and didn’t take back any salary instead of stretching him? They could get to 23M roughly in cap space. Still, way short of Kawhi’s max.

So La has some decisions - do they believe in their core with Bron and the young guys? If so, they can keep Randle and all their Ingram/Ball/Kuz/Hart core and also sign a free agent between 17-23M next year. Or, do they let Randle walk for nothing so they can have their shot at a max level contract?

There is risk there. You lose Randle for nothing, what if Kawhi gets injured or pulls a PG and gets mad you didn’t trade for him? You also lost 1 of your 4 years of Lebron too.

So the question seems to be does LA value Ingram/Ball/Kuz more than a max level star? They can get 2 max stars and keep Ingram/Ball/Kuz or 3 max stars by trading those 3 in a deal.

They can keep Randle along with Ingram/Ball/Kuz and get a 2nd star just below max too.

[DPG21920]

Now LeBron wants to keep Ingram & Kuz!

Where do you see that?

[LakerHater]

Where do you see that?
Jus heard it on talk radio, they read an article that was jus released.

[DPG21920]

Hopefully people have a good understanding of LA’s cap situation and some of the decisions. Let me know if you want me to mess with any specific scenarios

[Down Under]

I'd take Ingram & Randle (if somehow he's only paid ~$15 mil/year) & another prospect LA would have to acquire by trading Ball/Kuzma. Josh Jackson keeps getting throwin around and that'd be fine. The Lakers window is probably shorter than the Warriors even if they got Kawhi this year - 2 years MAX. I would find it impossible to believe LeBron is playing at the same level in 3 seasons time.

[hombre]

Pop should quit and take Kwahi and go coach in LA.

[hombre]

Total professional wrestler style.

[Ice009]

Don't underestimate how long PEDs can keep someone going for at a good level. DO NOT trade them Kawhi thinking it'll be short lived.

[Mugen]

So here’s the math with Randle making some assumptions: http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=17230720895b39bc874918f994530659

I used Aaron Gordon as a reference with Randle’s next contract. I used 18M as the year one salary for Randle (which is about 2M less than Gordon probably got).

I then assumed that next year LA renounced every single player except: Lebron, Randle, Ingram, Lonzo, Kuzma and Hart and that they waived and stretched Deng. I also assumed they would have the 20th pick in the draft.

If all that happens, they would have 17M in cap space roughly. So well short of Kawhi’s max who would already be down a lot of money. If they somehow moved Deng and didn’t take back any salary instead of stretching him? They could get to 23M roughly in cap space. Still, way short of Kawhi’s max.

So La has some decisions - do they believe in their core with Bron and the young guys? If so, they can keep Randle and all their Ingram/Ball/Kuz/Hart core and also sign a free agent between 17-23M next year. Or, do they let Randle walk for nothing so they can have their shot at a max level contract?

There is risk there. You lose Randle for nothing, what if Kawhi gets injured or pulls a PG and gets mad you didn’t trade for him? You also lost 1 of your 4 years of Lebron too.

So the question seems to be does LA value Ingram/Ball/Kuz more than a max level star? They can get 2 max stars and keep Ingram/Ball/Kuz or 3 max stars by trading those 3 in a deal.

They can keep Randle along with Ingram/Ball/Kuz and get a 2nd star just below max too.

Kawhi's dumb ass would just play for the mid-level in that scenario :lol

[BatManu20]

Kuzma is off the table, according to SAS. Lakers aren’t offering him in an trade package for Kawhi.

Their best offer is likely Ingram, Hart, and a future 1st. Which is a joke.

[BatManu20]

I could easily see Kawhi taking a major pay cut to play with LA next season. Seriously.

At this point I think he just wants to be a Laker, period.

[Mugen]

At this point, I really don't care about getting a return back for Leonard.

I really just want to see Pop and RC tell this nigga see you at training camp. I'd love to see what Uncle Dennis and Kawhi would do. It would really just be the best case scenario from a comedy standpoint especially if they somehow sit out or Kawhi is just purposefully sucking ass out on the court.

Worst case scenario, Spurs lose him for nothing, Kawhi is short 40-80mil and the Spurs rebuilding is accelerated instead of taking on B-level, C-Level prospects like Ingram and Kuzma.

[Mugen]

Kuzma is off the table, according to SAS. Lakers aren’t offering him in an trade package for Kawhi.

Their best offer is likely Ingram, Hart, and a future 1st. Which is a joke.

That'd be the best news of the day if it was actually true but Steven A Smith is a fucking retard so the current offer is probably just Kuzma :lol

[cjw]

Hopefully people have a good understanding of LA’s cap situation and some of the decisions. Let me know if you want me to mess with any specific scenarios


Kuzma is off the table, according to SAS. Lakers aren’t offering him in an trade package for Kawhi.

Their best offer is likely Ingram, Hart, and a future 1st.

That future first better be by trading Lonzo to a crappy team and be a likely top 10 pick, or else heavy pass.

I’d rather just take back a first, Saric, Bayless and Covington for Kawhi and Gasol or Mills. Or whatever makes the numbers work.

[mudyez]

At this point, I really don't care about getting a return back for Leonard.

I really just want to see Pop and RC tell this nigga see you at training camp. I'd love to see what Uncle Dennis and Kawhi would do. It would really just be the best case scenario from a comedy standpoint especially if they somehow sit out or Kawhi is just purposefully sucking ass out on the court.

Worst case scenario, Spurs lose him for nothing, Kawhi is short 40-80mil and the Spurs rebuilding is accelerated instead of taking on B-level, C-Level prospects like Ingram and Kuzma.

:tu

[Mugen]

If you told me 3-4 years ago that Kawhi would be one of the biggest faggots in sports history, I would have called you crazy....

I would have told you that you'd have a better shot at seeing Donald Trump as President....

Yet here we are :lol

[Mugen]

baseline bum was right, ban this fuck from the team next year so he can't poison the well and tell him he's more than free to be a Laker next year when LeBron is a year older and he's short 40-80mil. Let's see that Jordan deal go up then :lol

[BatManu20]

If you told me 3-4 years ago that Kawhi would be one of the biggest faggots in sports history, I would have called you crazy....

I would have told you that you'd have a better shot at seeing Donald Trump as President....

Yet here we are :lol


What a time to be alive tbh :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

If you told me 3-4 years ago that Kawhi would be one of the biggest faggots in sports history, I would have called you crazy....

I would have told you that you'd have a better shot at seeing Donald Trump as President....

Yet here we are :lol

It is absolutely stunning to see this coming from Kawhi of all people.

Sometimes I still can't wrap my head around it, like it's some kind of a sick joke.

[BatManu20]

I just don’t see PATFO making any deal with the Lakers, especially now. They’re not going to sell the farm and it just wouldn’t be worth it otherwise. Philly or bust.

[duncan2150]

I don’t get the drama here, lebron To LA didn’t change nothing. If LA wants kawhi they will have To make a big offer.

Kawhi will not sit a year, nobody did it before.

So no panic, if there’s a good offer he’ll go, if not see you at training camp.

I still believe that we’ll reach an agreement with the Lakers, they have the best pieces with ingram and randle imo.

[JPB]

I’m not kidding or trolling when I say this: it’s over for the Spurs. It is inevitable that Kawhi returns to LA. The Spurs are just sourgrapes rn.

Someone still mad at missing out on PG... Can't wait for the Fakers meltdown when they'll realize Lebron came for semi-retirement and out of NBA biz

Enjoy JaVale and Lance pal, you're not getting Kawhi this year if not for a godfather offer. Spurs are in no hurry and they'll just wait for Magic to panic when he'll realize this roster isn't going anywhere...

[BatManu20]

One executive said the proposed packages have gotten worse with each round of negotiations, while another said they’re flat-out unacceptable. That might change if the Lakers are determined to add their second star now. Multiple league sources suggest the Lakers could send a package to the Spurs featuring Ingram, multiple first-round picks, a sign-and-trade involving Randle, and possibly Josh Hart.
3 hours ago (https://hoopshype.com/rumor/1192968/) – via The Ringer (https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/7/2/17524398/lebron-james-lakers-offseason)


https://hoopshype.com/team/san-antonio-spurs/

[Spurs da champs]

That's easily the best trade proposal from the Fakers yet. Honestly they can keep Kuzma, dont care much for that dude based off recent TMZ interview & his tweet in reaction to PG re-upping with Methlahoma.

[JPB]

It is absolutely stunning to see this coming from Kawhi of all people.

Sometimes I still can't wrap my head around it, like it's some kind of a sick joke.


What a time to be alive tbh :lol

Imagine a guy emerging from a 2 year coma today... : "Nah, GTFOH..."

People tend to naturally associate timidity to humility but as this poster child of an example demonstrates... there's no correlation.

Because yes kids... you can be a quiet, mute young human being and a total motherfucking piece of shit. That's a potential configuration.

[duncan2150]

One executive said the proposed packages have gotten worse with each round of negotiations, while another said they’re flat-out unacceptable. That might change if the Lakers are determined to add their second star now. Multiple league sources suggest the Lakers could send a package to the Spurs featuring Ingram, multiple first-round picks, a sign-and-trade involving Randle, and possibly Josh Hart.
3 hours ago (https://hoopshype.com/rumor/1192968/) – via The Ringer (https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/7/2/17524398/lebron-james-lakers-offseason)


https://hoopshype.com/team/san-antonio-spurs/

that’s what i want from the beginning, i understand people who don’t want to give kawhi to the Lakers but that’s The better we can get.

[szkorhetz]

If you told me 3-4 years ago that Kawhi would be one of the biggest faggots in sports history, I would have called you crazy....

I would have told you that you'd have a better shot at seeing Donald Trump as President....

Yet here we are :lol

[LakerHater]

Gotta go find one of these shirts on millitary now

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/30716504_10155669859502476_5706948042351968256_o.j pg?_nc_cat=0&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=9cc321c0cc963d63cd2f6fe49bcbf727&oe=5BA85034

[99 Problems]

crofl Stephenson and Javele, finally some good news :lol

Heading West
Give up one of the remaining prime years
Finishes on 3 chips
Todays NBA gets ready for another few Rockets v Golden Fake wcf.

[violentkitten]

moved the cavs to the west, so exciting

[violentkitten]

moving james' loss to the warriors from the finals to the first or second round might be an improvement though

[violentkitten]

At this point, I really don't care about getting a return back for Leonard.

I really just want to see Pop and RC tell this nigga see you at training camp. I'd love to see what Uncle Dennis and Kawhi would do. It would really just be the best case scenario from a comedy standpoint especially if they somehow sit out or Kawhi is just purposefully sucking ass out on the court.

Worst case scenario, Spurs lose him for nothing, Kawhi is short 40-80mil and the Spurs rebuilding is accelerated instead of taking on B-level, C-Level prospects like Ingram and Kuzma.

he's going to lose more if he continues the bitch move of not showing up. also we'll see how long james is content to play with cap flexibility when he's carrying another shitty supporting cast next january

[Slippy]

I could easily see Kawhi taking a major pay cut to play with LA next season. Seriously.

At this point I think he just wants to be a Laker, period.

Could you really. That would be financial suicide. If i was kawhis uncle i wouldnt be able to look at him with a straight face & say - "hey you're taking paycut & 80mill less security but we got you to the lakers". Uncle will be forced to do the math the longer this situation goes.

[violentkitten]

sometimes people make bad decisions. I think this board needs to stop assuming that leonard is oblivious to what's going on

[spurschamps99030507]

At this point, I really don't care about getting a return back for Leonard.

I really just want to see Pop and RC tell this nigga see you at training camp. I'd love to see what Uncle Dennis and Kawhi would do. It would really just be the best case scenario from a comedy standpoint especially if they somehow sit out or Kawhi is just purposefully sucking ass out on the court.

Worst case scenario, Spurs lose him for nothing, Kawhi is short 40-80mil and the Spurs rebuilding is accelerated instead of taking on B-level, C-Level prospects like Ingram and Kuzma.

+1

Some people blame buford or pop, it's not their fault, we're talking about a player with a contract decided many months ago to quit the team and boycott it. He has cheated the team, he has collected money and he has cheated.


The rat and his group have acted unprofessionally and illegally. I have not seen such a situation in the nba, the team has to denounce this to the league.

[dbreiden83080]

+1

Some people blame buford or pop, it's not their fault, we're talking about a player with a contract decided many months ago to quit the team and boycott it. He has cheated the team, he has collected money and he has cheated.

.

The rat and his group have acted unprofessionally and illegally. I have not seen such a situation in the nba, the team has to denounce this to the league.

And while the Lakers just want him, other owners should be in contact with the Spurs encouraging them to take a stand. This is setting a very dangerous precedent for players to act in a similar fashion under contract because they simply don’t want to play in that city. You can’t tolerate this crap..

[violentkitten]

+1

Some people blame buford or pop, it's not their fault, we're talking about a player with a contract decided many months ago to quit the team and boycott it. He has cheated the team, he has collected money and he has cheated.


The rat and his group have acted unprofessionally and illegally. I have not seen such a situation in the nba, the team has to denounce this to the league.

he cheated the fanbase.

[violentkitten]

let's not forget he quit on a playoff team.

[CGD]

Source: Philadelphia are entertaining the idea of using stash Jonah Bolden as a trade asset. Lots of interest from other NBA teams, there’s a standard NBA buyout to free him of his $400,000 deal with Maccabi Tel Aviv.

David Pick (@IAmDPick)

[Seventyniner]

I wonder if LeBron going west will prompt Silver to try and put a 1-16 playoff format into place this year?

If so, Philly and Boston lose incentive to try and outbid each other for Kawhi. But right now they each should be busting down Pop's door for the chance to make the next 3-4 Finals.

[spurschamps99030507]

And while the Lakers just want him, other owners should be in contact with the Spurs encouraging them to take a stand. This is setting a very dangerous precedent for players to act in a similar fashion under contract because they simply don’t want to play in that city. You can’t tolerate this crap..

you said a keyword, precedent


from the moment that the rat and his group decided to make public that it wanted to be traded to the fakers, in that moment the possibilities of a good trade for SA died.


He did not do it privately so that the team could have chances of getting good players, they did it in that way to do the maximum possible damage. After that how do people blame buford or pop for not making a trade if the rat destroyed any possibility?

[gilmor2002]

you said a keyword, precedent


from the moment that the rat and his group decided to make public that it wanted to be traded to the fakers, in that moment the possibilities of a good trade for SA died.


He did not do it privately so that the team could have chances of getting good players, they did it in that way to do the maximum possible damage. After that how do people blame buford or pop for not making a trade if the rat destroyed any possibility?

Edison Cavani >>>> Kwahi Leonard

[exstatic]

Trade with philly for whatever, sending out some salary. Sign Randall for free once they revoke the QO to use the cap space, because FTL!

[SupremeGuy]

Do not give his uncle faggot what he wants...

Make them wait a year.

[MoSpur02]

Woj was just on ESPN saying it will be more difficult for the Fakers to trade for Kawhi now. He also stated the pieces they (Spurs) would have to take back became less appealing to them (Spurs). He stated its up to the Lakers to see if they want to part with their young pieces and also maybe come up with draft picks. He stated we'll find out very quickly if the Lakers feel some kind of urgency to get Kawhi. He stated the Lakers may just wait till next year and see if they can sign him via free agency, but that they did that with PG and obviously that didn't work out.

[Harry Callahan]

Well if the supposed offers are shi**y now, bring the guy into training camp. In some respects it would be funny if he had to prove to every he is 100% (like the "group" said he is) and back to the player he was in 2016-2017. If he does, great - trade him to Boston or Phil in Feb, if he doesn't, he becomes Isiah Thomas due to his own greed and his family's greed. Wish KL good luck in July 19 and avoid wasting the salary cap space on him.

[Mr. Body]

I wonder if LeBron going west will prompt Silver to try and put a 1-16 playoff format into place this year?

If so, Philly and Boston lose incentive to try and outbid each other for Kawhi. But right now they each should be busting down Pop's door for the chance to make the next 3-4 Finals.


Woj was just on ESPN saying it will be more difficult for the Fakers to trade for Kawhi now. He also stated the pieces they (Spurs) would have to take back became less appealing to them (Spurs). He stated its up to the Lakers to see if they want to part with their young pieces and also maybe come up with draft picks. He stated we'll find out very quickly if the Lakers feel some kind of urgency to get Kawhi. He stated the Lakers may just wait till next year and see if they can sign him via free agency, but that they did that with PG and obviously that didn't work out.

I wonder if the Lakers are looking up and realizing that they still don't have s good team. Signing McGee and Stevenson is close to clownshoes territory.

This leads up to Philly or nothing and I don't see them trading much for a year rental. Is he going to get them past Boston? No.

I see the Spurs just playing Kawhi or whatever.

[Harry Callahan]

The Lakers big old deng/dung contract is a huge albatross that involves sweeting any offer for another team to take. Very few teams have that space for a two year contract hit.

The LAL should just be happy they got one aging, soon to be declining player to make them a fifth seed.

[picnroll]

Pretty amazing that that dipshit Lentard wants to go to the Lakers when they won’t even put together a package to obtain him, they’re willing to put him in a position where he has to sit out the year. Guy is a full on retard.

[tbdog]

We offer the super max, he is ours. That's what the Lakers need to understand. You have till October to trade for him. That's why Spurs are in no rush. This whole thing about not turning up to training camp is near a career ended. It's probably one of the most toxic things around.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Spurs are in no rush. This whole thing from the Lakers about how they're just offering their trash, and we have until end of day today to accept?

If I were Pop I'd fax Magic a photo of my ass and tell him to F off.

[DPG21920]

Spurs are in no rush. This whole thing from the Lakers about how they're just offering their trash, and we have until end of day today to accept?

If I were Pop I'd fax Magic a photo of my ass and tell him to F off.

Yeah, no one here will take that setup.

[MoSpur02]

I am waiting if I am the Spurs. Plain and simple. Continue to talk to him telling him that you are still open to trading and even possibly to L.A as he wants, but that you are not rushing it. Let training camp start and see how he acts towards the coaching staff and teammates. See how he looks as far as the quad goes. If you feel he is engaged and the relationship improves and you see he looks healthy then you offer the max extension.

The Spurs have to know and I am sure they do and continue to tell themselves that they have a top five maybe even top 3 player on their roster. They may never have that again. So don't settle for scraps from another team. They will never get back equal value so don't settle. This is why Woj and even R.C said that they want to repair the relationship. They know how special and rare Kawhi Leonard is when it comes to playing the game.

[DPG21920]

I just hope SA can get Fultz. I know many here don’t like him and that SA has guards, but he’s about the only prospect I can see that SA realistically has a shot at.

If they can at least get Fultz (which, yes, I am aware how far down that package has fallen from what some of us anticipated) then I would be happy.

If you can get a really solid pick too, then even better.

[picnroll]

Spurs are in no rush. This whole thing from the Lakers about how they're just offering their trash, and we have until end of day today to accept?

If I were Pop I'd fax Magic a photo of my ass and tell him to F off.
Magic would probably go for that offer.

[SuperCam]

I just hope SA can get Fultz. I know many here don’t like him and that SA has guards, but he’s about the only prospect I can see that SA realistically has a shot at.

If they can at least get Fultz (which, yes, I am aware how far down that package has fallen from what some of us anticipated) then I would be happy.

If you can get a really solid pick too, then even better.

if phila wasn't willing to put fultz on the table before lebron decide why would they after?

[r0drig0lac]

That's easily the best trade proposal from the Fakers yet. Honestly they can keep Kuzma, dont care much for that dude based off recent TMZ interview & his tweet in reaction to PG re-upping with Methlahoma.

agree, Kuzma definitely is not spurs material

[BillMc]

We offer the super max, he is ours. That's what the Lakers need to understand. You have till October to trade for him. That's why Spurs are in no rush. This whole thing about not turning up to training camp is near a career ended. It's probably one of the most toxic things around.

So, the plan is to get him to come to training camp, see if he looks healthy, and if he does, offer the Supermax? When does training camp open? How long before October 16?

[MoSpur02]

I think training camp is late September

[Dverde]

Maybe we can get the Kings to give us their next six first rounders

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Spurs are in no rush. This whole thing from the Lakers about how they're just offering their trash, and we have until end of day today to accept?

If I were Pop I'd fax Magic a photo of my ass and tell him to F off.

Knowing magic he’d start licking the photo

[picnroll]

So Julius Randle wants out of the Laker organization. Had enough of them.

[jermaine]

If Kawhi wants LA, why not just ship is was to the Clippers?? You'll find out then if he was lying to get to the Lakers

[BillMc]

I think training camp is late September

Thanks man. :toast

So, they can take a few weeks to look at him, and then put the SM on the table if they want. And I'll bet the Lakers offers will still be about the same then too, as there is a whole season yet to play. I'd do that. Only risk is more KL / Uncle D shenanigans that would prevent Spurs seeing him play in training camp.

[K...]

So Julius Randle wants out of the Laker organization. Had enough of them.

I'm thinking that's a way to gin up demand for his contract and a sign the Lakers won't match, so teams can bid for him without the that of coming away with nothing

[FireMicoHalili]

If Leonard is getting shipped to the Clippers, he’ll have to be traded for Tobias Harris, Gilgeous-Alexander, and future draft picks. No one else is desirable on that roster and I’d rather not have the Spurs take Jerome Robinson. The Spurs will also have to unload undesirable contracts just to get a decent - if not a fair - return. Teodosic can be thrown in too, especially if Pop wants to stay competitive, since he’s at a decent age where he’s got experience but he’s not too old like Parker.

[K...]

Also that randle statement was pre LeBron.... Who knows if it still holds.

It's possible that if the Spurs want randle they're waiting for him to get an offer, and then direct la to match or include other assets, if so that would be about event to watch

[Killakobe81]

So Julius Randle wants out of the Laker organization. Had enough of them.

Its his agent driving that bus. His agent is the same as D'angelo Russell and Paul George. Dude has been bitter since we shipped D'Russ to BK.
In his agent's defense, Magic taking public shots at Russell, post-trade was unprofessional.

But screw that guy.
And Magic and Pelinka should reach out to Randle, bypass his agent and tell him his best bet is to come back. Show he can be a kay part of a contender and his value would only increase.

[Mr. Body]

So Julius Randle wants out of the Laker organization. Had enough of them.

It's an organization without direction for years now trying to paper over their failures with big Free Agents and forcing a trade through tampering. None of that is going to fix much. They just signed Jevale McGee and Stevenson for God's sake.

[Trainwreck2100]

If Kawhi wants LA, why not just ship is was to the Clippers?? You'll find out then if he was lying to get to the Lakers

Think about it this way. The team supposedly pissed him off so much he doesn't want to be on the spurs anymore. If that were truly the case there's 29 other teams he could go to. He's already lying to us

[violentkitten]

I wonder if the Lakers are looking up and realizing that they still don't have s good team. Signing McGee and Stevenson is close to clownshoes territory.

This leads up to Philly or nothing and I don't see them trading much for a year rental. Is he going to get them past Boston? No.

I see the Spurs just playing Kawhi or whatever.

it's the cavs west. we'll see how much they can maintain cap flexibility when it's january and james is bitching about the shitty supporting cast

[spurschamps99030507]

So Julius Randle wants out of the Laker organization. Had enough of them.

Julius Randle went in one season from a cap casualty to legitimately valuable role player. It seems that wasn’t to convince the Lakers to make him feel wanted, though, according to NBA.com’s David Aldridge. This would be quite the disappointing development in an offseason that’s already seen the Los Angeles Lakers miss out on Paul George. Here’s what Aldridge had to say about what he’s heard regarding talks between Randle and the Lakers: “Julius Randle has made it clear that I don’t think he really wants to be back there, so are you putting money into a guy that doesn’t really want to be back there.” (https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2018/7/1/17523810/nba-free-agent-rumors-julius-rande-la-lakers-magic-johnson-paul-george-lebron-james)

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2018/7/1/17523810/nba-free-agent-rumors-julius-rande-la-lakers-magic-johnson-paul-george-lebron-james

[Mr. Body]

Its his agent driving that bus. His agent is the same as D'angelo Russell and Paul George. Dude has been bitter since we shipped D'Russ to BK.
In his agent's defense, Magic taking public shots at Russell, post-trade was unprofessional.

But screw that guy.
And Magic and Pelinka should reach out to Randle, bypass his agent and tell him his best bet is to come back. Show he can be a kay part of a contender and his value would only increase.

Going to Brooklyn was the best thing to happen to Russell.

[Killakobe81]

Going to Brooklyn was the best thing to happen to Russell.

Did not say it wasn't.
But as an agent when a very public Team President takes multiple shots at one of your top 3-5 clients you are not gonna take that lightly. And he shouldn't.

But he also needs to do what is best for his clients, first ...

[DPG21920]

if phila wasn't willing to put fultz on the table before lebron decide why would they after?

Because Lebron is the main target for a team that lost 4-1 to BOS before they add Kyrie/Hayward. So unless they think their team will improve more than that, they need to drastically improve and Kawhi is the only real star left that is truly available.

[MoSpur02]

Per Jalen Rose, "if he is the Spurs the only team that makes sense to make a deal with are the Boston Celtics because they have the proven young players and draft picks."

[Clipper Nation]

I'm not really interested in anything you've got to say, Cum Newton. Dive on that loose ball next time, bitch.
:lmao

[MoSpur02]

I know that Kawhi has stated he wants to go to L.A and tried to scare teams off by saying he won't resign with anyone else. So that leaves the Clippers and Lakers. None of those teams have anything of value to warrant a trade involving Kawhi unless they get a third team involved.

I think Kawhi would consider staying in Boston and Philly. Especially if they make it deep in the playoffs, which one of those two will now that LeBron left the Cavs if they stay healthy. So why is Ainge being a scared little girl? Trade your young pieces and that pick. You're getting a rare super star and still have Hayward and Kyrie. Imagine their starting lineup?

[acoelho1]

I just hope SA can get Fultz. I know many here don’t like him and that SA has guards, but he’s about the only prospect I can see that SA realistically has a shot at.

If they can at least get Fultz (which, yes, I am aware how far down that package has fallen from what some of us anticipated) then I would be happy.

If you can get a really solid pick too, then even better.

I agree 100%. He is still very talented and taking a chance that he will overcome the mental issues could give us a valuable asset. Nevertheless, I would wait it out and bring Kawhi into camp, which will give the Spurs time and space to either resolve the issue or for teams to see him in action during preseason. I think any 76ers package for Leonard needs to include Fultz & Saric. Keep in my mind as well that Leonard may not want to go through a year of media speculation so his camp may agree to a trade to the 76ers with a promise to resign if we make the decision to keep him for the year.

[JPB]

you said a keyword, precedent


from the moment that the rat and his group decided to make public that it wanted to be traded to the fakers, in that moment the possibilities of a good trade for SA died.


He did not do it privately so that the team could have chances of getting good players, they did it in that way to do the maximum possible damage. After that how do people blame buford or pop for not making a trade if the rat destroyed any possibility?

This is what makes the group so amateurish. With any average agent down the street, Kawhi would probably already be in LA and his rep would be safe, except here where he's institutionalized for posterity as a motherfucking piece of shit.

But this whole process (which we can say now goes back to last summer), Kawhuncle has progressed with the notion in mind that it was a players league an that there's nothing SA could do but oblige to their desires.

He really thought he was almighty (and probably bought his own hype), reacting like a frustrated, mad kid, trying to find a new excuse or trick everytime the last didn't work.

He was clearly used by journalists and really thought he could lowball Pop.

He literally ruined a top 3 NBA player in his prime, independently of the motherfucking piece of garbage Kawhitter is.

It's something to show in agents seminars as a caricature of what you shouldn't do.

[YGWHI]

I am waiting if I am the Spurs. Plain and simple. Continue to talk to him telling him that you are still open to trading and even possibly to L.A as he wants, but that you are not rushing it. Let training camp start and see how he acts towards the coaching staff and teammates. See how he looks as far as the quad goes. If you feel he is engaged and the relationship improves and you see he looks healthy then you offer the max extension.

The Spurs have to know and I am sure they do and continue to tell themselves that they have a top five maybe even top 3 player on their roster. They may never have that again. So don't settle for scraps from another team. They will never get back equal value so don't settle. This is why Woj and even R.C said that they want to repair the relationship. They know how special and rare Kawhi Leonard is when it comes to playing the game.

Patty sounded like everyone on the Spurs knows that Kawhi will play for other team next season. "I loved being his teammate".

I would doubt the Spurs will offer him -or any other player in next years- a supermax contract.

They lost him after the 1st meeting when they denied him that deal, what RC said in public was only to get better offers for Kawhi not to keep him.

[jermaine]

How can Kawhi not wanna go an stay with Philly with Labron outta the East. He could be the new Labron an go to the finals every yr with that young core. They would run the shit outta the East.

[JPB]

Patty sounded like everyone on the Spurs knows that Kawhi will play for other team next season. "I loved being his teammate".

I would doubt the Spurs will offer him -or any other player in next years- a supermax contract.

They lost him after the 1st meeting when they denied him that deal, what RC said in public was only to get better offers for Kawhi not to keep him.

You can't deny someone something he's not owned.

[JFK]

agree, Kuzma definitely is not spurs material

Absolutely. None of what the Lakers have is 'spurs' material, if we want to use that term. I would not want any of what the Lakers have. This is why if the Spurs do this trade for the sake of making it, I will quit following this team. Period. There is no excuse to help Leonard or the Lakers. I do not think they will do this, but still will be very disappointed if they go that route.

The only way you make a deal with Los Angeles, is if you cripple them for years to come and clean them out in the process.

[YGWHI]

You can't deny someone something he's not owned.
A top 3 player doesn't have to...

And his camp knows that the Spurs won't offer that at any circumstances to anyone, that's what they asked for a trade.

We will see what happen to DJ when he asks for his max next offseason...

[FireMicoHalili]

Spurs have til today to accept the Lakers’ offer, if reports on social media are true. If the Lakers don’t push through with that threat, they’ll look awfully weak and lose leverage again. I’m sure they have another deal lined up though, a lesser one but one which makes them substantially better than they currently are (which isn’t saying much, really).

[DPG21920]

A top 3 player doesn't have to...

And his camp knows that the Spurs won't offer that at any circumstances to anyone, that's what they asked for a trade.

We will see what happen to DJ when he asks for his max next offseason...

Makes sense. SA the most another team can offer me is 185M if I’m traded but I’m mad at you for not offering me 220M!!

[YGWHI]

How can Kawhi not wanna go an stay with Philly with Labron outta the East. He could be the new Labron an go to the finals every yr with that young core. They would run the shit outta the East.

Maybe, maybe not. Did you see how the Sixers lost his last playoffs game? Embiid lost the ball in a very stupid play...He's a Russ-type of player, it's hard to trust him in the last seconds of a crucial game.

I guess some guys of that young core are supertalented but with a wrong approach to the game. It's not easy to change it, some players can't do it in their whole careers.

[YGWHI]

Makes sense. SA the most another team can offer me is 185M if I’m traded but I’m mad at you for not offering me 220M!!
I've said before that supermax is not just about money...It's about status. Like everything in the NBA.

It's about to put a player at the same level of the other superstars. It's to put Kawhi at Curry's level.

When that deal is denied, it doesn't matter to lose $20M, $40M, or $80M.

[cjw]

We offer the super max, he is ours. That's what the Lakers need to understand. You have till October to trade for him. That's why Spurs are in no rush. This whole thing about not turning up to training camp is near a career ended. It's probably one of the most toxic things around.

You think the Lakers care about character? They retired a rapist’s jersey twice.

And the Spurs will have two DPOY with character issues without their numbers retired.

[lmbebo]

I've said before that supermax is not just about money...It's about status. Like everything in the NBA.

It's about to put a player at the same level of the other superstars. It's to put Kawhi at Curry's level.

When that deal is denied, it doesn't matter to lose $20M, $40M, or $80M.

If he wanted it, he should have played ... Curry never sat out.

None of those players have sat out...

[YGWHI]

So Lakers are just filling the roster out with one year contracts now?

I wonder why...

[cjw]

Its his agent driving that bus. His agent is the same as D'angelo Russell and Paul George. Dude has been bitter since we shipped D'Russ to BK.
In his agent's defense, Magic taking public shots at Russell, post-trade was unprofessional.

But screw that guy.
And Magic and Pelinka should reach out to Randle, bypass his agent and tell him his best bet is to come back. Show he can be a kay part of a contender and his value would only increase.

PLEASE have him come back. That’s the most realistic path towards the Lakers NOT having max cap space next offseason.

[Mugen]

If the trade offers are legit garbage then that's the best thing for the front office at this point tbh, makes their decision much easier.

[BillMc]

If he wanted it, he should have played ... Curry never sat out.

None of those players have sat out...

This.

He'd likely have gotten it if he met with the Spurs and just shown he was both healthy and committed to the team longterm. Instead, apparently, he was offended that the Spurs had some doubt after he sat out 73 games with a disputed injury. Imagine that.

If I had an employee that missed close to 90% of the work year out sick, I'd have some questions before doubling his salary. Hardly Draconian.

[YGWHI]

If he wanted it, he should have played ... Curry never sat out.

None of those players have sat out...

Kawhi's doctors in NY never cleared him to play, if he felt his quad wasn't 100%, like it or not, it was his right not to play injured.

[DPG21920]

I've said before that supermax is not just about money...It's about status. Like everything in the NBA.

It's about to put a player at the same level of the other superstars. It's to put Kawhi at Curry's level.

When that deal is denied, it doesn't matter to lose $20M, $40M, or $80M.

:lol

[cjw]

Kawhi's doctors in NY never cleared him to play, if he felt his quad wasn't 100%, like it or not, it was his right not to play injured.

The eighth doctor someone finds tells him his shoulder is messed up and he gets pills + workman’s comp. While right by the letter of the law, it doesn’t make it morally right.

[YGWHI]

This.

He'd likely have gotten it if he met with the Spurs and just shown he was both healthy and committed to the team longterm. Instead, apparently, he was offended that the Spurs had some doubt after he sat out 73 games with a disputed injury. Imagine that.

I guess his camp wasn't offended that the Spurs doubt about his healthy, it seemed like they just confirmed what other people told them that the Spurs wouldn't offer that type of deal.

Remember that there were rumors about the Spurs couldn't afford a supermax since 2017 offseason.

If any other team spread those rumors to make Kawhi's camp to buy it or the rumors were true and the Spurs won't sign that deal to anyone, we will never know it.

[ducks]

Kawhi's doctors in NY never cleared him to play, if he felt his quad wasn't 100%, like it or not, it was his right not to play injured.

Like it or not he shopped 6-7 doctors 8 dr his uncle paid dr to say sit

[rjv]

Kawhi's doctors in NY never cleared him to play, if he felt his quad wasn't 100%, like it or not, it was his right not to play injured.

but it was also his responsibility to demonstrate this to his teammates and the fan base more profoundly. his team was likely as frustrated by his lack of communication and support as they were by the enigmatic injury. duncan was also a very quiet personality but he never deferred to silence when it came to supporting his team.

[Mugen]

Fine him/suspend him for most of next season. I wouldn't want this cancer anywhere near the team. If Philly gives you a semi-decent trade then take it, otherwise just suspend him for most of this year.

This faggot has shown his true colors. I know Lakerfan is excited to get this guy because of his talent but who's to say that he won't pull the same shit again wherever he goes at the first sign of trouble?

Whether it's this summer or the next, you'll have Uncle Dennis in the same organization with Lavar Ball, LeBron/Rich Paul, Magic Johnson with the LA and national media spotlight all over them. And that's supposed to be a recipe for success?

This guy pulled this shit on one of the most stable franchises in all of sports and he's all of a sudden going to clean up his act once the lights get bright? Good luck :lol

[lmbebo]

Kawhi's doctors in NY never cleared him to play, if he felt his quad wasn't 100%, like it or not, it was his right not to play injured.

Spurs have tried to work with him. Could have gotten an outside (non-spurs or kawhi's chosen doctor) to give there opinion. Chances are it would have coincided with the Spurs medical stuff (considering it took Kawhi about 8-9 doc visits to find someone to hear him out ...).

This league/injury is also based on trust. Trust that kawhi and his "camp" have violated.

Work in a frield where we get exposure to radiation. Once had a colleague who kept saying she was pregnant every week to get out of doing that work. We had to force her into weekly pregnancy tests because she claimed she was pregnant all the time to get out of doing work.

[YGWHI]

The eighth doctor someone finds tells him his shoulder is messed up and he gets pills + workman’s comp. While right by the letter of the law, it doesn’t make it morally right.

I guess sports's doctors, esp Kawhi's doctors who work for NY teams, have a lot a better rep and prestige than those 8 doctors.

[lmbebo]

I guess sports's doctors, esp Kawhi's doctors who work for NY teams, have a lot a better rep and prestige than those 8 doctors.

I highly doubt 9 out of 10 doctors got it "wrong". Doc in NY also has an ego, doctor to these "stars", etc. Advertise it. Build up his rep, etc.

Get an independent opinion.

All of Kawhi's problems are above the neck. Doesn't need an orthopedic surgeon, he needs a psychiatrist.

[bklynspursfan]

I guess sports's doctors, esp Kawhi's doctors who work for NY teams, have a lot a better rep and prestige than those 8 doctors.

The reach is real with you on this one dude

[Mugen]

Please don't feed trolls that are still defending this guy's actions, Kawhi is getting roasted in all types of NBA circles for good reason

He'll get some of that rep back if he's winning games in LA next year but for now everybody knows that he's pulling one of the biggest bitch moves in sports history

This dude should legit not travel to SA for a few years, I'm only half-joking when I say I'm worried what some crazy SA fan might do to him if he shows up in the building tbh :lol

[MoSpur02]

I've said before that supermax is not just about money...It's about status. Like everything in the NBA.

It's about to put a player at the same level of the other superstars. It's to put Kawhi at Curry's level.

When that deal is denied, it doesn't matter to lose $20M, $40M, or $80M.

Bull. Its all about the money. You just mentioned earlier that they were pissed as soon as the Spurs didn't offer it.

[YGWHI]

but it was also his responsibility to demonstrate this to his teammates and the fan base more profoundly. his team was likely as frustrated by his lack of communication and support as they were by the enigmatic injury. duncan was also a very quiet personality but he never deferred to silence when it came to supporting his team.

Kawhi has been the same quiet, silent guy.

His teammates didn't get mad when he didn't talk that much in the locker room before, Spurs FO didn't matter if he didn't want to talk the press or give podium interviews after games...

That's whay I've said, both sides handled his badly. He could communicate better but the team already knew what type of person they're dealing with...The Spurs should have found ways to improve the communication in the previous years before it explodes this way...

[DPG21920]

I guess sports's doctors, esp Kawhi's doctors who work for NY teams, have a lot a better rep and prestige than those 8 doctors.

They don’t have a better rep. One of the foremost doctors for this type of injury spoke about the doctor Kawhi was with and that he was not even on the map for this type of injury in terms of prestige.

[RD2191]

Please don't feed trolls that are still defending this guy's actions, Kawhi is getting roasted in all types of NBA circles for good reason

He'll get some of that rep back if he's winning games in LA next year but for now everybody knows that he's pulling one of the biggest bitch moves in sports history

This dude should legit not travel to SA for a few years, I'm only half-joking when I say I'm worried what some crazy SA fan might do to him if he shows up in the building tbh :lol

:ihit

[YGWHI]

All of Kawhi's problems are above the neck. Doesn't need an orthopedic surgeon, he needs a psychiatrist.

If thinking that Kawhi's a psychiatrist case, make you and other fans feel better and overcome this situation, I'm fine.

[MoSpur02]

The truth of the matter is Kawhi will stay if he is presented with the max offer. Plain and simple.

He quit on the team. I confirmed what Bill Simmons said. He shopped around for a doctor to diagnose him. Why? He felt pain? He wanted to sit out? I go with the latter because of his stance right now, which is I want to go to L.A. The Spurs are reluctant to offer because of the supposed injury and because of the headache HE caused.

[BackHome]

You know K-Y is a bitch when even Laker fans are texting me they going to be champions. Lol and the next is wow Kawhi is kinda a bitch if it’s true he going to sit out next season. And these are hardcore Purrple and Gold peeps agreeing with us.

[YGWHI]

They don’t have a better rep. One of the foremost doctors for this type of injury spoke about the doctor Kawhi was with and that he was not even on the map for this type of injury in terms of prestige.

I never said they were the best in the world but I have no doubt they have better rep than those 8 doctors of the other guy's post.

[Spurs9]

Anyone on the nets worth trading Kawhi for? They are apparently open to trading anyone on the roster :lol

[exstatic]

Kawhi's doctors in NY never cleared him to play, if he felt his quad wasn't 100%, like it or not, it was his right not to play injured.

The 9th Doctor? This is turning into a season of Dr. Who.

Anyone can doctor shop to get any outcome they want, Jabari.

[Killakobe81]

PLEASE have him come back. That’s the most realistic path towards the Lakers NOT having max cap space next offseason.

We are not signing any Multi-year deals, homey.
Especially not with Randle's agent who just disrespected Magic.
No hard feelings on him staying in OKC but not giving magic a meeting was disrespectful but KCP at one year 12 is much better than paying PG the max for 4.
Let Randle play out the QO on a year deal and we will send him to another team at the deadline if he is still unhappy.
Otherwise he become unrestricted next year and we get about 10 million in cap-space everyone wins.

[exstatic]

A top 3 player doesn't have to...

And his camp knows that the Spurs won't offer that at any circumstances to anyone, that's what they asked for a trade.

We will see what happen to DJ when he asks for his max next offseason...

Spurs ponied up and gave Kawhi his MAX. Of course, he then only played, and looks to only play two seasons of the five, four if you count the option.

[YGWHI]

The truth of the matter is Kawhi will stay if he is presented with the max offer. Plain and simple.

He quit on the team. I confirmed what Bill Simmons said. He shopped around for a doctor to diagnose him. Why? He felt pain? He wanted to sit out? I go with the latter because of his stance right now, which is I want to go to L.A. The Spurs are reluctant to offer because of the supposed injury and because of the headache HE caused.

I wonder why you still talk in present or future. There is no future between Kawhi and the Spurs. It's too late for that.

[DPG21920]

I never said they were the best in the world but I have no doubt they have better rep than those 8 doctors of the other guy's post.

No, they don’t

[rjv]

Kawhi has been the same quiet, silent guy.

His teammates didn't get mad when he didn't talk that much in the locker room before, Spurs FO didn't matter if he didn't want to talk the press or give podium interviews after games...

That's whay I've said, both sides handled his badly. He could communicate better but the team already knew what type of person they're dealing with...The Spurs should have found ways to improve the communication in the previous years before it explodes this way...

his teammates didn't care before because there was no need for him to talk at those times. but they definitely were frustrated by his lack of support when all this was going down. at some point, silence confirms rumors and assumptions.

[spursistan]

Please don't feed trolls that are still defending this guy's actions, Kawhi is getting roasted in all types of NBA circles for good reason

He'll get some of that rep back if he's winning games in LA next year but for now everybody knows that he's pulling one of the biggest bitch moves in sports history

This dude should legit not travel to SA for a few years, I'm only half-joking when I say I'm worried what some crazy SA fan might do to him if he shows up in the building tbh :lol
This faggot YGWHI better be getting paid quite a sum by Uncle Dumbass for his semen-shielding, and I'm being fuckin' serious. His dedication is absolutely mental :lol..