Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[DPG21920]

I fucking hate dogs tbh

More of a gato guy. Makes sense.

[RD2191]

Dream scenario...

Celtics get:
Lonzo & Lavar Ball
Paddy Mills

Lakers get:
Kawhi Leonard

Spurs get:
Kuzma
Ingram
Kyrie
Lakers 2019 1st

You had me at moving Mills.

[DPG21920]

And yeah , if you think Ingram and Kuz are actually good pieces, both those guys would be a phone call away from now until the trade deadline.

Agreed. But Ingram + Kuz + taking on bad contracts or getting Ball (again, maybe not the player but assets from a trade for him) might not be.

[RD2191]

Woah bruh, let's not say things we're going to regret, ok?

:lmao

[BillMc]

Kawhi owes S.A. jack shit tbh. And in the words of William Munny, "deserves got nothing to do with it".

Great movie. :toast

Are you saying Kawhi is about to a fire a shotgun into RC's face? "I'll see you in Hell."

"Yeah."

[RD2191]

More of a gato guy. Makes sense.

It is what it is. :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

Kuzma is straight fucking trash. That hasn't changed in a week.

:tu

[Pavlov]

The option is to wait out free agency and re-evaluate the market rather than trading him while the market is terrible. You really think Kuzma + Ingram won't be there in 2-3 weeks? The trade offers can't get any worse than they are now. I don't know why you're so eager to make moves based on Magic's timeline and LeBron's timeline. Buford's job isn't to build a super team in LA, that's Magic's job. If Magic can flip Ball for a great asset the Spurs really want then maybe it's enough to forget about Boston and Philly. But as of now there isn't much reason to do something so early.Yeah, if they weren't going to make a deal at the draft they have no reason to act now unless they somehow get a trade close to equal value.

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I wouldn't go that far. If LeBron stays in Cleveland it could very well end up the Lakers make the best offer. But if they do that retarded trade now there is no point in being a Spurs fan, since they'll never be good again if they're doing something so incompetent as handing Leonard to LA when free agency could completely change the trade market for Kawhi.

Yeah, the only possible scenario by which I could even remotely see them doing this is:

1....if they think they are crippling the Lakers ability to ring by what they are extracting from them to get Leonard.
2....if they truly think Kawhi is merely held together with tape and spit and will eventually fall apart before helping them ring.
3....both.

Otherwise, there's no forgivable sane or responsible reason to do this, especially BEFORE LeBron and PG make a choice.

I hope like hell I'm reading the tea leafs on this properly. I do not want to have to hate PATFO on top of Kawhi. And the thing that gives me an ample amount of certitude that I'm good to not worry is that the Woj, Shelbourne article states the offer will have to be substantial.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Getting NOT fucked.

Empty-handed or not, that's the point.

If we show the tendency to get run ragged and headless over one diva, we become just like any other franchise.

It really doesn't take all that much to get into the playoffs (as this past season attests). Even if we get nothing out of this Kawhi situation besides intact dignity, we will have AT LEAST that, and we'll still be a playoff team that isn't going to beat the Warriors.

Being aloof, sharp, and methodical and keeping the wizard behind the curtain is the most important thing by far.

Fuck a Kawhi. That's what the draft is for. We simply continue to try to pick character guys that can grow to fill our needs and move on.

[daslicer]

You know what it gets them Puto? It gets them fucking dignity. It sends the message that signing a contract in SA means something. It means that if you want out your not getting your way by way of trade and strong arm tactics. Kawhi may get what he wants in 2019. But at least the spurs fuck him raw and he has to walk to LA more bow legged than Danny green after a bull ride.

Agreed it's like being at the club and seeing all the hot girls are taken but you see some fat ugly girls that are still available. In that scenario its better to go home alone versus waking up with some ugly fat bitch in the morning. I feel some spur fans have beer goggles for the crap the Lakers are offering just like some guys have beer goggles when it comes to the fat girl at the club.

[RGMCSE]

So jack shit then. :lol

Better than having to be reminded over and over that the Spurs conceded and traded their Star to the biggest rival. FUCK THAT SHIT!

[HarlemHeat37]

There's really no reason to rush things..despite what the media is saying, there's more pressure on the Lakers to make a deal the longer this plays out..

Ingram and Kuzma are not worth the Spurs blowing their loads over and making a deal in a rush, not even close:lol at least try to get LA to flip Lonzo for a high lottery pick, there are definitely teams that will be enamored with the idea of getting a player with Jason Kidd potential(which doesn't work in today's game, but some of these GMs and fans are still stuck in 2003), despite Lavar's presence..

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Troof bomb.

[Marcus Bryant]

I've never seen this many Spurs fans excited since they signed Radosoft Nesterobitch.

[RD2191]

Agreed it's like being at the club and seeing all the hot girls are taken but you see some fat ugly girls that are still available. In that scenario its better to go home alone versus waking up with some ugly fat bitch in the morning. I feel some spur fans have beer goggles for the crap the Lakers are offering just like some guys have beer goggles when it comes to the fat girl at the club.

Fat bitches need lovin too..

[Marcus Bryant]

There's really no reason to rush things..despite what the media is saying, there's more pressure on the Lakers to make a deal the longer this plays out..

Ingram and Kuzma are not worth the Spurs blowing their loads over and making a deal in a rush, not even close:lol at least try to get LA to flip Lonzo for a high lottery pick, there are definitely teams that will be enamored with the idea of getting a player with Jason Kidd potential(which doesn't work in today's game, but some of these GMs and fans are still stuck in 2003), despite Lavar's presence..

:tu

[Mr. Body]

[QUOTE=Mr. Body;9443375]

PG is overrated in my eyes. Kawhi is the second best player in the league when healthy.

So what? Pacers won the trade. That's the point.

[Marcus Bryant]

Getting NOT fucked.

Empty-handed or not, that's the point.

If we show the tendency to get run ragged and headless over one diva, we become just like any other franchise.

It really doesn't take all that much to get into the playoffs (as this past season attests). Even if we get nothing out of this Kawhi situation besides intact dignity, we will have AT LEAST that, and we'll still be a playoff team that isn't going to beat the Warriors.

Being aloof, sharp, and methodical and keeping the wizard behind the curtain is the most important thing by far.

Fuck a Kawhi. That's what the draft is for. We simply continue to try to pick character guys that can grow to fill our needs and move on.

:tu

[RD2191]

Great movie. :toast

Are you saying Kawhi is about to a fire a shotgun into RC's face? "I'll see you in Hell."

"Yeah."

:lol GOAT western tbh

[RGMCSE]

Fat bitches need lovin too..


Shit you got all you can eat then. But don’t try to get me and everyone else to go along with it so you can feel better about yourself.

[DPG21920]

I don’t think I’ve seen a single fan excited for SA to rush and trade for just Ingram and Kuz. I think universally at a minimium people want Ball or the assets he would bring in another deal.

[Hoops Czar]

There's really no reason to rush things..despite what the media is saying, there's more pressure on the Lakers to make a deal the longer this plays out..

Ingram and Kuzma are not worth the Spurs blowing their loads over and making a deal in a rush, not even close:lol at least try to get LA to flip Lonzo for a high lottery pick, there are definitely teams that will be enamored with the idea of getting a player with Jason Kidd potential(which doesn't work in today's game, but some of these GMs and fans are still stuck in 2003), despite Lavar's presence..
Unless that pick is unprotected and coming from a lottery bound team, it's useless.

[RD2191]

Shit you got all you can eat then. But don’t try to get me and everyone else to go along with it so you can feel better about yourself.

:lmao:lmao

[RGMCSE]

Getting NOT fucked.

Empty-handed or not, that's the point.

If we show the tendency to get run ragged and headless over one diva, we become just like any other franchise.

It really doesn't take all that much to get into the playoffs (as this past season attests). Even if we get nothing out of this Kawhi situation besides intact dignity, we will have AT LEAST that, and we'll still be a playoff team that isn't going to beat the Warriors.

Being aloof, sharp, and methodical and keeping the wizard behind the curtain is the most important thing by far.

Fuck a Kawhi. That's what the draft is for. We simply continue to try to pick character guys that can grow to fill our needs and move on.

Completely agree.

[daslicer]

[QUOTE=daslicer;9443378]

So what? Pacers won the trade. That's the point.

Pacers and OKC both got eliminated in the first round. The pacers win the trade if PG leaves OKC but if he stays it's a draw in my eyes.

[Marcus Bryant]

Good luck Magic hope you find your dad.

[daslicer]

Shit you got all you can eat then. But don’t try to get me and everyone else to go along with it so you can feel better about yourself.

:lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I don’t think I’ve seen a single fan excited for SA to rush and trade for just Ingram and Kuz. I think universally at a minimium people want Ball or the assets he would bring in another deal.

Honestly, I don’t care for any player the Lakers have to offer and I want no part of the lavar ball circus

[baseline bum]

Shit you got all you can eat then. But don’t try to get me and everyone else to go along with it so you can feel better about yourself.

Dude, you're talking to the frijolero who wants to tongue Big Mona Shelburne's balloon knot.

[TekXX]

Have some faith in the Spurs, RC and Pop have been around the league for a long time they're not going to pull a shity trade.

[daslicer]

Dude, you're talking to the frijolero who wants to tongue Big Mona Shelburne's balloon knot.

:lmao

[baseline bum]

Have some faith in the Spurs, RC and Pop have been around the league for a long time they're not going to pull a shity trade.

They did give Scola away for some Greek dicklicker who went back home to play with little boys.

[MoSpur02]

I don't wanna see that traitor in a Lakers uniform unless it's when he's a free agent and decides to sign there on his on free will. He doesn't deserve to say where he goes. I hope he loses out on $80 million for sitting out an entire season and then speaking bad about the organization.

You don't help L.A. create a super team. They don't have any players that come close to what Kawhi is when he's healthy. Ingram, Kuzma, Ball, and Hart are overrated because they play in L.A.

[BatManu20]

This is depressing.


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[TekXX]

They did give Scola away for some Greek dicklicker who went back home to play with little boys.

Scola? oh yea memories a little hazy on that one

[Spurs da champs]

I don’t think I’ve seen a single fan excited for SA to rush and trade for just Ingram and Kuz. I think universally at a minimium people want Ball or the assets he would bring in another deal.
Yup, if Lakers turn Ball into Jackson. You get two wings with high potential, Jackson is kind of an insurance as well if you will due to Ingram's durability or lack thereof so far...

[RD2191]

Dude, you're talking to the frijolero who wants to tongue Big Mona Shelburne's balloon knot.

Leave big mona out of this :wakeup

[MoSpur02]

I don't want any part of those guys listed. That rookie they drafted looks like crap. I'd take Bonner and his New Balance kicks over Wagner

[DPG21920]

Come on BOS or PHI. Step up to the plate.

[Ron Swanson]

This is depressing.


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BSPN pushing the shit out of this to make it happen.

[MoSpur02]

Can ESPN make it more obvious that they want L.A to have a super team?

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Once LeBron and PG sign with LA, kawhi to the Lakers is dead. People forget that kawhi yearns for mvps and individual awards. He doesn't want to play second fiddle to LeBron :lol

[Mr. Body]

This is depressing.


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Impressive graphics for ESPN while masturbating.

[DPG21920]

I love me some Jaylen Brown tbh...

[TekXX]

Impressive graphics for ESPN while masturbating.

Those ugly fuckers got scrubs written all over them. ABORT TRADE!! ABORT TRADE!!

[BatManu20]

I love me some Jaylen Brown tbh...

He by far and away seems like most Spurs-like player of all the rumored targets. Smart, well-spoken, professional, team guy, etc. If Ainge stops being a stingy chode and ups his offer a little bit, I think the Spurs may end up sending him to Beantown.

[offset formation]

And that leaves the Spurs with what? Getting fucked and empty handed? :lol

The fucking has already come. No need to get down and blow him, too.

[Mr. Body]

Those ugly fuckers got scrubs written all over them. ABORT TRADE!! ABORT TRADE!!

I do have to say, Ball and Ingram are some ugly motherfuckers.

[Russ]

What Kawhi doesn't realize is that his holdout made the Spurs get used to not having him.

There's no unknown to fear now -- Kawhi's leverage is way less.

[DPG21920]

Lonzo been hanging out with Mike Bibby and about to get popped for PED’s :lol

[RGMCSE]

Dude, you're talking to the frijolero who wants to tongue Big Mona Shelburne's balloon knot.

Thats a whole lotta colada.

[offset formation]

You know what it gets them Puto? It gets them fucking dignity. It sends the message that signing a contract in SA means something. It means that if you want out your not getting your way by way of trade and strong arm tactics. Kawhi may get what he wants in 2019. But at least the spurs fuck him raw and he has to walk to LA more bow legged than Danny green after a bull ride.

Fuckin'. A.

[RD2191]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/8ufo2m/our_offseason_thus_far/

[rasuo214]

Sign and trade Randle + Ball to Wolves, Kawhi +Gasol to Lakers, KAT, Ingram, Kuzma to Spurs? :lol

I doubt Minny would trade KAT and if they did they'd want more, they should just dump Wiggins instead. Also why wouldn't the Lakers just keep KAT? KAT and Lebron would be pretty good and they could probably clear enough cap for another max guy.


Also FUCK ESPN. Can they make their agenda any more obvious?

[ECOV]

Lonzo been hanging out with Mike Bibby and about to get popped for PED’s :lol
Thats a name I haven't heard for a long time lol

[RGMCSE]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/8ufo2m/our_offseason_thus_far/


:lol

[NASpurs]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/8ufo2m/our_offseason_thus_far/

:lol so good

[mystargtr34]

Leave big mona out of this :wakeup

Balloon knot I’m dead

[Vic Petro]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/8ufo2m/our_offseason_thus_far/

:lol

[marinoman]

Cmon kawhi sign an extension with the spurs 1201 july 1

[ducks]

Ball shot is broken it will taken 2 years with chip

[cool cat]

Was Brandon Ingram legit hurt at the end of last year or was it just to tank at that point?

[RGMCSE]

Balloon knot I’m dead

could you imaging the juevos rancheros stank gas right as Chicken tender boy is about to deep dive in that ass? :vomit:

[Russ]

Can ESPN make it more obvious that they want L.A to have a super team?

Time will tell.

My prediction is that the Spurs will engage in intense, long and (seemingly) serious negotiations with the Lakers to extract their best offer, down to the "T," then pull the rug out when LA is just about ready to call in the deal.

Then they'll let the Lakers twist in the wind and keep that offer in their back pocket as a starting point. They'll wait and wait . . .

[BatManu20]

Plot twist: Spurs trade Kawhi to the Lakers for their young core of Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, and Randle (S&T). Kawhi, after a year of playing in Lebron’s shadow in the drama-filled bright lights of LA, while simultaneously having realized he wronged PATFO the previous Summer, signs back with the Spurs next year as FA on an extremely discounted contract. Spurs go on to win multiple championships in the coming years.


https://media.giphy.com/media/14ceV8wMLIGO6Q/giphy.gif

[PÒÓCH]

Can ESPN make it more obvious that they want L.A to have a super team?

That's what I hate about the radio shows on the Ticket and ESPN since they're based in either California or NY that's all they talk about. As if their teams were the center of the universe.

[MoSpur02]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/8ufo2m/our_offseason_thus_far/

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[RGMCSE]

Plot twist: Spurs trade Kawhi to the Lakers for their young core of Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, and Randle (S&T). Kawhi, after a year of playing in Lebron’s shadow in the drama-filled bright lights of LA, while simultaneously having realized he wronged PATFO the previous Summer, signs back with the Spurs next year on an extremely discounted contract. Spurs go on to win multiple championships in the coming years.


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Fuck that. Kawhi on the lakers game 1 of the season against the Spurs. Picture this.



3lyyuTR0eR4

[BatManu20]

What’s up with these young Lakers posting these cryptic tweets. Their butt-holes are puckered tighter than a nun’s c*nt with all these trade rumors


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[spurs10]

Technically he owes SA one more year of play since he's under contract. If he was a free agent I'd say he doesn't owe the Spurs anything but he's not, he has a guaranteed contract. This is all that matters in the end. Time to make up for last season.


Time will tell.

My prediction is that the Spurs will engage in intense, long and (seemingly) serious negotiations with the Lakers to extract their best offer, down to the "T," then pull the rug out when LA is just about ready to call in the deal.

Then they'll let the Lakers twist in the wind and keep that offer in their back pocket as a starting point. They'll wait and wait . . . No motivation for anything else unless some great trade comes up. If the Lakers are involved it would need to be a three-way most likely. I just ain't seeing us trading to anyone, especially LA, unless it's to our advantage. The super-max can be offered in a couple days and will require commitment and health.

[offset formation]

What’s up with these young Lakers posting these cryptic tweets. Their butt-holes are puckered tighter than a nun’s c*nt with all these trade rumors


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I think it's clear he means Lonzo's dad is about to go the fuck off when he gets traded.

[024]

There's really no one on the Lakers I would want.

Kuzma: Already 23-24 so low ceiling.
Imgram: Just don't see him developing into that good of a player.
Lonzo: No
Randle: Not worth the salary he's about to get

Ingram + Kuzma + picks is still better than nothing but I still like sixers and Celtics assets way better. Lakers would have to use Deng to match contracts, which makes the deal even worse.

[SPURt]

If the Lakers find a way to do a three team deal and send their trash to NOLA for Anthony Davis then we can talk.

[BatManu20]

Spurs, hopefully.


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[Russ]

Don't know if this has been posted from "Pounding the Rock" yet:

Report: The Spurs’ leverage has increased because the Lakers need to deal for Kawhi Leonard soon

The Spurs may be in the driver’s seat now that time is running out for L.A.’s chances to pair LeBron James with Kawhi Leonard.

By Jeph Duarte and J.R. Wilco Jun 27, 2018, 2:22pm CDT

LeBron James has a decision to make, and he has until Friday to make it. First of all, if he opts out of his current contract with the Cleveland Cavaliers he must do so tomorrow. In the event that James does opt out and engage in free agency, the Los Angeles Lakers have cleared enough cap space to make a push for him.

According to an ESPN story today from Woj, Windy, and Ramona, they have sources that indicate that James is:

hesitant to be the first superstar to decide on the Los Angeles Lakers in free agency, pressure is mounting for the Lakers front office to execute a trade with the San Antonio Spurs to acquire disgruntled All-NBA forward Kawhi Leonard

At the same time Magic Johnson, President of Basketball Operations for the Lakers, has attempted to lure Kawhi Leonard from San Antonio. It is widely believed Leonard wants to play for the Lakers and that having him join will encourage LeBron to head out to Hollywood.

As reported by ESPN, the pressure is on the Lakers to make a deal for Leonard before James makes a decision.

With that in mind, if the Spurs decide to deal Kawhi, their leverage seems to be as high as it’s been since Leonard’s group reportedly let his trade request leak. According to Ramona Shelburne, when the Lakers did reach out, the Spurs “shut the door.” Without Kawhi or Paul George (who last summer pledged allegiance to the Lakers and is now waffling with regard to leaving Oklahoma City), James may be less likely to move.

Which has many deducing that James wants to play with Kawhi — or at least whichever superstar(s) are interested in joining him on the Lakers.

Meanwhile, R. C. Buford has expressed publicly that the Spurs intend to maintain Leonard. This would imply PATFO is working to mend fences and perhaps offer Leonard the super max once they’re able to. But if Kawhi is adamant about leaving San Antonio, then the:

. . . price for Leonard would be substantial. The Lakers could have to surrender a combination of former first-round picks -- from Ingram, Kyle Kuzma and Josh Hart -- and future first-round picks and perhaps restricted free agent Julius Randle in a sign-and-trade agreement.

Not the best deal in the world, but not bad for the position the team found itself in 12 days ago.

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/6/27/17510354/lebron-james-kawhi-leonard-team-up-los-angeles-lakers-magic-johnson-nba-free-agency

[tbdog]

There's really no one on the Lakers I would want.

Kuzma: Already 23-24 so low ceiling.
Imgram: Just don't see him developing into that good of a player.
Lonzo: No
Randle: Not worth the salary he's about to get

Ingram + Kuzma + picks is still better than nothing but I still like sixers and Celtics assets way better. Lakers would have to use Deng to match contracts, which makes the deal even worse.

Ingram second year stats: 16.1ppg, 5.3reb, 3.9ast. 47% and 39% from 3.
Leonard second year stats: 11.9ppg, 6.0reb, 1.6ast, 49% and 37% from 3.

Ingram is already an established defender and I see him as one of the better wing defenders in the league shortly. He will never be Leonard good on defense, as he is probably the best ever. But to say he isn't going to develope into a good player is naive.

Kuzma ceiling is a 6 man, scoring combo forward, taking backup forward off the dribble. Spark plug type of thing.

As for Lonzo, I think he has future potential. Regardless, Spurs could flip him for something they prefer.

The question to ask is if the Spurs think whoever they are getting in the trade for Leonard will make a 9 man rotation in the playoffs, and will any of them become an allstar.

[KDKSpurs24]

Spurs, hopefully.


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Let’s say we even get one more of their players. Doesn’t that mean that Lebron(if he even comes) and Kawhi will only have a bunch of old ring chasers for the vet min as their role players? That doesn’t beat Golden State does it?

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https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1012211748496203777?s=19

http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/report-spurs-tender-qualifying-offers-to-bevy-of-players

[coachmac87]

I want Wagner in the deal...that’s a must

[spurs10]

Ingram second year stats: 16.1ppg, 5.3reb, 3.9ast. 47% and 39% from 3.
Leonard second year stats: 11.9ppg, 6.0reb, 1.6ast, 49% and 37% from 3.

Ingram is already an established defender and I see him as one of the better wing defenders in the league shortly. He will never be Leonard good on defense, as he is probably the best ever. But to say he isn't going to develope into a good player is naive.

Kuzma ceiling is a 6 man, scoring combo forward, taking backup forward off the dribble. Spark plug type of thing.

As for Lonzo, I think he has future potential. Regardless, Spurs could flip him for something they prefer.

The question to ask is if the Spurs think whoever they are getting in the trade for Leonard will make a 9 man rotation in the playoffs, and will any of them become an allstar. Yes, as well as considering how they might be helping an adversary. Why would they? They owe nothing to Kawhi, he just took a fortune for an entire season to rehab. Nice of the Spurs.

[Down Under]

A lot of the chatter around Randle seems to be in the 12-15 mil per range which seems low despite his lack of shooting. He's shown he can switch onto guards pretty well on the perimeter & was even their best rim protector last season (not saying much). I'd want him, Ingram & another prospect (not Kuzma, whatever they could get for ball). They won't be able to include him in S&T though, he'll want to explore what someone could actually pay him. Magic will have to call the 28 other teams before July 1 to see what he can get for Kuzma/Ball.

[spurs10]

Wrong qoute my bad spurs10 :lol:tu

[tbdog]

Yes, as well as considering how they might be helping an adversary. Why would they? They owe nothing to Kawhi, he just took a fortune for an entire season to rehab. Nice of the Spurs.

Got to think whats best for the Spurs and not some revenge thought process. I can't think of another prospect available better than Ingram.

[Russ]

A lot of the chatter around Randle seems to be in the 12-15 mil per range which seems low despite his lack of shooting. He's shown he can switch onto guards pretty well on the perimeter & was even their best rim protector last season (not saying much). I'd want him, Ingram & another prospect (not Kuzma, whatever they could get for ball).

I agree -- Ingram and Randle are the two best Lakers (even though the Lakers have treated Randle like dirt).

[Killakobe81]

Ingram second year stats: 16.1ppg, 5.3reb, 3.9ast. 47% and 39% from 3.
Leonard second year stats: 11.9ppg, 6.0reb, 1.6ast, 49% and 37% from 3.

Ingram is already an established defender and I see him as one of the better wing defenders in the league shortly. He will never be Leonard good on defense, as he is probably the best ever. But to say he isn't going to develope into a good player is naive.

Kuzma ceiling is a 6 man, scoring combo forward, taking backup forward off the dribble. Spark plug type of thing.

As for Lonzo, I think he has future potential. Regardless, Spurs could flip him for something they prefer.

The question to ask is if the Spurs think whoever they are getting in the trade for Leonard will make a 9 man rotation in the playoffs, and will any of them become an allstar.

At least you are honest and realistic I truly don't wanna lose Ingram or Lonzo for that matter... Yet. Wouldn't mind seeing Lavar leave... Though. I actually respect his hustle but dude is a habitual line stepper...
But I get the cost for KL is steep...

[KDKSpurs24]

Yes, as well as considering how they might be helping an adversary. Why would they? They owe nothing to Kawhi, he just took a fortune for an entire season to rehab. Nice of the Spurs.
But it’s still not even about that. You’re looking at it that way but they’re looking at it as trying to help themselves. You have to remember that we already have a team and their job is to try to get pieces that fit with the current players. I’m sure they would want to avoid business with Lakers but they’re just trying to put together a respectable team considering the circumstances. This isn’t about anyone else but the Spurs trying to help the Spurs at the end of the day.

[spurs10]

Yes, as well as considering how they might be helping an adversary. Why would they? They owe nothing to Kawhi, he just took a fortune for an entire season to rehab. Nice of the Spurs. This being said, I have no idea if Kawhi has any desire other than to reach an agreement with the Spurs. Most everything I've heard is media speculation. I prefer to go with R.C.'s quotes saying 'we want him as long as possible.' If he does want to go to the Lakers then he can, next year.

[spurs10]

Got to think whats best for the Spurs and not some revenge thought process. I can't think of another prospect available better than Ingram. Yeah, I'm with you there, no revenge scenarios. What's good for the team is the deal! I'm glad to hear the positive reviews of some of these guys I only saw play a few games.

[spurs10]

But it’s still not even about that. You’re looking at it that way but they’re looking at it as trying to help themselves. You have to remember that we already have a team and their job is to try to get pieces that fit with the current players. I’m sure they would want to avoid business with Lakers but they’re just trying to put together a respectable team considering the circumstances. This isn’t about anyone else but the Spurs trying to help the Spurs at the end of the day. :bobo

[Down Under]

I agree -- Ingram and Randle are the two best Lakers (even though the Lakers have treated Randle like dirt).
The Lakers base are really struggling with the fact that LeBron James - the 2nd greatest player ever, is not coming to the franchise if they can't trade for the best 2-way player in the game who will probably soon be the best player, health permitting. They honestly think they aren't competing against anyone, so don't give them anything.

[midnightpulp]

If the Spurs just take Magic's crap in exchange for our Hall of Famer before free agency gets sorted out I'm done with this team. RC can't possibly be that stupid.

I'm with you on that. Also done with :lol today's NBA if the Spurs act as the catalyst to build a Lakers superteam. This superteam era is fuckin' shit.

[raybies]

https://youtu.be/GC5w-ZJ5uGc

I don’t know why y’all are so low on Ingram... this is the last game I remember him playing... either don’t like the offers currently but I’m higher on Ingram than most.

[midnightpulp]

I don't like your tone, Clev.

Get on your knees and beg better like your boy Magic.

Magic is our boy, too, Mug :cry

As long as he brings in Machado.

[szkorhetz]

I'm with you on that. Also done with :lol today's NBA if the Spurs act as the catalyst to build a Lakers superteam. This superteam era is fuckin' shit.
There is simply no reason to keep the current Spurs team together.
As they are built, there is no way, they could best GSW, therefore trading all the older, more experienced players for picks and youngsters would essentially help them storm the time until GSW(They don't have any youth at all)/LAL(every young, insteresting player have to be part of the KL deal) gets old, and then the 26-27 years old, prime Spurs could beat the hell out of the NBA.

[midnightpulp]

https://youtu.be/GC5w-ZJ5uGc

I don’t know why y’all are so low on Ingram... this is the last game I remember him playing... either don’t like the offers currently but I’m higher on Ingram than most.

I like him, but I don't like him as a Spur. You also have to consider the personality/psychological aspects of players, and players who leave/are traded from the Lakers notoriously underperform. It's like they get depressed or something being away from the LA glitz and glamor. Ingram seems the type to sulk while in San Antonio. I don't care what lip-service respect he'd pay to Pop and the organization, he'd grow restless at the lack of nightlife, celebrity connects, and the like, and it would translate to underwhelming on-court play.

[midnightpulp]

There is simply no reason to keep the current Spurs team together.
As they are built, there is no way, they could best GSW, therefore trading all the older, more experienced players for picks and youngsters would essentially help them storm the time until GSW(They don't have any youth at all)/LAL(every young, insteresting player have to be part of the KL deal) gets old, and then the 26-27 years old, prime Spurs could beat the hell out of the NBA.

None of the Lakers youth are particularly interesting, and I also think they're the personality types that would bolt SA as soon as they're FAs.

[BatManu20]

Less than 10% chance Kawhi is traded in the next 48 hours imo. This will drag out well into Free Agency.

[BatManu20]

None of the Lakers youth are particularly interesting, and I also think they're the personality types that would bolt SA as soon as they're FAs.

Agreed. Follow Ingram and Kuzma on social media and both seem enamored with LA.

[TimDunkem]

No one really wants to play in SA. These are things we know.

[Hoops Czar]

I like him, but I don't like him as a Spur. You also have to consider the personality/psychological aspects of players, and players who leave/are traded from the Lakers notoriously underperform ( [menton]HarlemHeat37 knows what's up here). It's like they get depressed or something being away from the LA glitz and glamor. Ingram seems the type to sulk while in San Antonio. I don't care what lip-service respect he'd pay to Pop and the organization, he'd grow restless at the lack of nightlife, celebrity connects, and the like, and it would translate to underwhelming on-court play.
s

The Spurs better start bringing in guys with personalities and that are well liked around the league because if they can't recruit players to play with them, this team is going to muddle on the fringe of playoff contention for the next few years before a five or six year rebuild.

The Spurs better have a plan and they'd better stick to it. If they're going to rebuild, then dump the contracts of Pau, LMA and pity, load up on high ceiling young prospects and future draft picks and start the rebuild. Otherwise, don't clown around doubling down on a bunch of bit players with future potential if the goal is to win now. Make sure you bring in solid talent that can fill some voids/deficiencies in your lineup.

[BatManu20]

Would fit right in in San Antonio.


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[rasuo214]

Once Lebron signs the Spurs lose a lot of leverage with LA. Which they might be fine with but hopefully they are using LA's desperation to get a better package from another team.

[spursistan]

The FO did Kawhi wrong... Bottom line... Don't get mad at his reaction... Misdiagnosis... Mad at seeking second opinion... Public shade throwing and implying he is injured simply so he can play unhealthy to carry the old guys to the playoffs? Nah fam... U don't have the moral high ground... We KNOW what the FO has done wrong... Everything wrong said about Kawhi has been speculation... He isn't out here o Twitter throwing shade
You are cringeworthy, plain and simple..

[NickiRasgo]

I'm the only one who somehow doesn't want Ingram or impressed with him? Not because he's from the Lakers.
I mean even if given a chance to acquire him without trading Kawhi.

Dude's body frame looks small and thin. He's 6'9" but it doesn't look like it.
Doesn't look special. Not to mention he looks pitiful as Cameron Payne as well.

[tbdog]

I wonder if Spurs could flip Kuzma and Lonzo for Porzingis. Unsure where he is from the injury. And i don't think he is fitting in NY. Spurs end up with a pre injured Porzingis and Ingram plus pick plus wanger. Not a bad hall.

[spursistan]

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Ruining the Lakers one more time would be cool. I don't give a shit about Kawhi anymore; just not on that team..

It would be the height of incompetence if PATFO come to LA rescue. You could see they are getting desperate. Probably got a word from Lebron camp that he wouldn't be signing there alone..

[BatManu20]

Lol seems legit


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[RGMCSE]

Tatum would be a pipe dream but I’ll take brown kyrie + 1st round pick.

[spurschamps99030507]

I don't wanna see that traitor in a Lakers uniform unless it's when he's a free agent and decides to sign there on his on free will. He doesn't deserve to say where he goes. I hope he loses out on $80 million for sitting out an entire season and then speaking bad about the organization.

You don't help L.A. create a super team. They don't have any players that come close to what Kawhi is when he's healthy. Ingram, Kuzma, Ball, and Hart are overrated because they play in L.A.

+1 the fu.. truth

[Kuestmaster]

When you trade a superstar you NEVER NEVER get equal value. The most you can hope is to get a couple of good/promising players and a few picks/assets.

Honestly, I don't think the offers for Kawhi will get much better than Ingram, Kuzma, (Hart, Randle?) + picks.

No one will trade a superstar or a star for a one year rental of Kawhi. The Celtics are even doubting of trading Jaylen Fucking Brown for a Top-3 player.

I'm all for make Kawhi sit next season and lose another tens of millions, but you'd lose him for nothing and would be much harder to rebuild. I don't think that's the route the FO and Pop will take.

You get the best you can get, it's a business after all.

[spursistan]

I'm with you on that. Also done with :lol today's NBA if the Spurs act as the catalyst to build a Lakers superteam. This superteam era is fuckin' shit.
Still can't get my head around it. So the man who was happy the basketball equivalent of the Soviet Union (ShaKobe Lakers) dissolved in 2004 and then asked for the league to have veto power on lopsided trades (Pau) in 2008 is now going to giftwrap them a path to a Superteam :lol..

I don't blame any Spurfan if they just bail on this team if this happens. It would definitely mean Pop and co. have lost the plot entirely.

[smaka]

If the Spurs somehow end up helping Lakers form their super team, getting peanuts in return for a franchise star, I'll have to think twice about continuing to support Spurs after more than 10 years of doing so. So sad.

[Spurs da champs]

Would fit right in in San Antonio.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgugNiyUEAAs4C9.jpg
KD (before he snaked), Harden, & Westbrook fit in OKC just fine.

[Spurs da champs]

Paul George just became UFA per Woj.

[RGMCSE]

Paul George just became UFA per Woj.

I wonder if he heard it’s going down today and opted out.

[Ice009]

Do you guys think Paul George opting out pretty much means he's gone from OKC?

I wouldn't mind doing a sign and trade with OKC. Send Kawhi there (they can rent a player for another year) for Paul George and then go for Lebron. Try and sell Lebron on teaming up with PG, LaMarcus and the young guns such as Dejounte and LW4.

[spursfaninla]

The WOJ article indicates PG is still considering staying in OK, but LA is a possibility. Opting in would have meant he was staying for one year.

So, it appears PG has the option now of signing a max contract with either OK or LA. So I think he is just seeing what happens and is keeping his options open.

[r0drig0lac]

Lakers get kawhi and Pau

Spurs get ingram, kuzma, Wagner, next year's first, and Thomas Bryant

Trade tony and mills for future picks

PG- murray, white, Forbes
SG- green, Walker, hilliard
SF- ingram, kuzma, blossomgame
PF- Wagner, metu, LJC
C- Aldridge, mulitinov, bryant
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[Ice009]

I don't know, I just figured that if he's going to stay in OKC that he'd opt in a give it one more year, that way he can bolt if it goes bad. I don't think he's opting out to sign a long-term contract in OKC. I could be wrong, maybe he really likes it there.

[r0drig0lac]

So Kawhi wants to go to the Lakers but doesn't want all the hollywood crap that comes with it? Maybe this guy really is a retarded autist.

maybe?

[BillMc]

:lol GOAT western tbh

100% agree.

[baseline bum]

Not the best deal in the world, but not bad for the position the team found itself in 12 days ago.

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/6/27/17510354/lebron-james-kawhi-leonard-team-up-los-angeles-lakers-magic-johnson-nba-free-agency

poundingthecock is such a garbage website

[baseline bum]

A lot of the chatter around Randle seems to be in the 12-15 mil per range which seems low despite his lack of shooting. He's shown he can switch onto guards pretty well on the perimeter & was even their best rim protector last season (not saying much). I'd want him, Ingram & another prospect (not Kuzma, whatever they could get for ball). They won't be able to include him in S&T though, he'll want to explore what someone could actually pay him. Magic will have to call the 28 other teams before July 1 to see what he can get for Kuzma/Ball.

:lol

Yeah Randle is going to get paid less than Gasol or Mozgov.

[BillMc]

I'd just love if the Spurs were completely trolling the Lakers (and ESPN) and either trade him East at the last minute, or sign him to the SuperMax at 12:01 A.M. on July 1. :lol

[spursistan]

So Kawhi wants to go to the Lakers but doesn't want all the hollywood crap that comes with it? Maybe this guy really is a retarded autist.
This guy is acting every bit like a mental shut-in. No word through a representative, no media availability, no (or barely) correspondence with teammates; his coach and mentor is straining to get him on a one-one-one meeting..

We have seen enough from this dude to conclude that you can't trust him with the franchise going forward. I'm really not going to feel the loss, just don't deliver him to the Lakers..

[r0drig0lac]

https://youtu.be/GC5w-ZJ5uGc

I don’t know why y’all are so low on Ingram... this is the last game I remember him playing... either don’t like the offers currently but I’m higher on Ingram than most.

Ingram will be a star (possibly a superstar) and much better than Tatum or Brown, and I'm still not trading with the lakers

[Spurs da champs]

Ingram will be a star (possibly a superstar) and much better than Tatum or Brown, and I'm still not trading with the lakers

I agree about Ingram having a higher ceiling than Brown for sure. I hate the Lakers but I wouldn't mind giving them potentially damaged goods for somebody with that much upside.

[r0drig0lac]

If the Spurs somehow end up helping Lakers form their super team, getting peanuts in return for a franchise star, I'll have to think twice about continuing to support Spurs after more than 10 years of doing so. So sad.

this

[cutewizard]

Hot offseason......

Volcano watch!!!

[cutewizard]

I think Kyrie, Walker, Brown, Murray, Gay, Lamarcus and one more star have a fighting chance against the Warriors........

Just my humble opinion, hehe

[spursistan]

The Spurs better start bringing in guys with personalities and that are well liked around the league because if they can't recruit players to play with them, this team is going to muddle on the fringe of playoff contention for the next few years before a five or six year rebuild.

The Spurs better have a plan and they'd better stick to it. If they're going to rebuild, then dump the contracts of Pau, LMA and pity, load up on high ceiling young prospects and future draft picks and start the rebuild. Otherwise, don't clown around doubling down on a bunch of bit players with future potential if the goal is to win now. Make sure you bring in solid talent that can fill some voids/deficiencies in your lineup.

Talent trumps everything, but this is also a cautionary tale that you still can't do without personality/character in team sports.

While I'm sure they knew more stuff about Leonard than we did, I still think Pop and co. got caught off-guard by his act like almost everyone here. Hopefully they stop thinking there is another Duncan to be found..

[cutewizard]

Talent trumps everything, but this is also cautionary tale that you still can't do without personality/character in team sports.

While I'm sure they knew more stuff about Leonard than we did, I still think Pop and co. got caught off-guard by his act like almost everyone here. Hopefully they stop thinking there is another Duncan to be found..

:bobo

[Lakers999]

It’s not like spurs are gonna miss the playoffs next season. Hell with Ingram and kuzma you guys have a good chance of going all the way

[Spurs da champs]

It’s not like spurs are gonna miss the playoffs next season. Hell with Ingram and kuzma you guys have a good chance of going all the way

:lol

[Uriel]

I really hope the Spurs don't trade Kawhi to the Lakers (or anyone) no matter how good their offer is. You have him under contract for one more year. Play out the season and give him the supermax next summer if he's proven his worth. Otherwise, trade him in February.

[CGD]

Come on Philly, make that deal!

[smaka]

Would rather have Kawhi benched for another year and him losing all the money and build more doubts about him, than trade him to the freaking Lakers. Haven't we all learned that Lakers players vastly underperform when traded on another team. I want no part of those fake hype LA "future star" players.

[dbestpro]

I heard the Spurs are going to add a psychiatrist to the Spurs medical staff.

[Kuestmaster]

It’s not like spurs are gonna miss the playoffs next season. Hell with Ingram and kuzma you guys have a good chance of going all the way

don't put salt on the wound please.

[picnroll]

Spurs may end up trading Leonard to the Lakers but there is nobody they’ll get that in the long run will make a difference, maybe a few pieces to make the Spurs first round playoff fodder and ultimately require unreasonable cap space to retain. In the meantime I’ll have to put up with parasitic sheit eating Laker’s fan and outlets like ESPN fawning over the Lakers. Not worth it. Screw the Lakers and trading Leonard to them. Let him go the 2019 signing route if he wants.

[cjw]

Unless that pick is unprotected and coming from a lottery bound team, it's useless.

That lottery pick for Ball became a lot less useful for the Spurs once the draft passed and it became impossible to know where that pick would fall. Lakers squandered an opportunity there


Spurs may end up trading Leonard to the Lakers but there is nobody they’ll get that in the long run will make a difference, maybe a few pieces to make the Spurs first round playoff fodder and ultimately require unreasonable cap space to retain. In the meantime I’ll have to put up with parasitic sheit eating Laker’s fan and outlets like ESPN fawning over the Lakers. Not worth it. Screw the Lakers and trading Leonard to them. Let him go the 2019 signing route if he wants.

Agree here unless you are extremely high on a player you’re taking back and think he can develop into an All Star (see Oladipo last year, though I wasn’t that high on him he proved me wrong).

These players will otherwise just clog up cap space in a few years at a rate where you can just sign players in FA. That’s why the draft pick route is more enticing - (1) more years of cost control, (2) full decision over which players you take, (3) your own draft pick becomes better in the process with some self-imposed tanking instead of trying to stay afloat at a time the Warriors have a super team. Might as well wait it out 2-3 years.

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2RoEZqnyp0

Sounds a lot less certain to me than ESPN wants.

Also funny that 4 other teams have made offers, but ESPN only wants to talk about LA. Bias so obvious.

[picnroll]

Popovich has always been in a short term mindset building with Duncan, Manu and Parker. Now when he needs to be in a longer term building mode I don’t think he’s capable of it. I think he’s always in a field the most competitive team for this year mindset.

[spursistan]

As an aside, Woj has clearly lost credibility throughout this Kawhi a saga. He's been fully incorporated into the ESPN machine. His reporting of late has been almost transparently cheering the Kawhi-to-Lakers move..

[MoSpur02]

So "if," big "if" Kawhi stays and re-signs with the Spurs what do Spurs do to compete with the Warriors? Trade Gasol or Mills? What free agents do they go after? Do they re-sign Parker?

[picnroll]

So "if," big "if" Kawhi stays and re-signs with the Spurs what do Spurs do to compete with the Warriors? Trade Gasol or Mills? What free agents do they go after? Do they re-sign Parker?

Pray that Lonnie Walker is this years Donovan Mitchell.

[lmbebo]

David Griffin just now on NBA radio thinks this LA talk is a ruse. Way for Spurs to up the ante from other teams who want Kwahi, more specifically, Philly.

[Spurs9]

David Griffin just now on NBA radio thinks this LA talk is a ruse. Way for Spurs to up the ante from other teams who want Kwahi, more specifically, Philly.
Maybe if the reports like the Lakers offering half their team and trying to get 1st rounders are out there, Philly/Boston ups the trade package? If there was a package including Kyrie/Brown, I'd take that.

[picnroll]

Wonder if Leonard would sign a contract with Boston or Philly with a player option after 2 yrs.

[dbreiden83080]

Please Don't send him to LA. They are desperate for Lebron, you don't need to be in any rush. Spurs need to play it smart..

[Mugen]

Magic is our boy, too, Mug :cry

As long as he brings in Machado.

Dodger Magic is A-OK :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

As an aside, Woj has clearly lost credibility throughout this Kawhi a saga. He's been fully incorporated into the ESPN machine. His reporting of late has been almost transparently cheering the Kawhi-to-Lakers move..

It’s crazy how hard he’s fallen. He doesn’t even have the “woj bombs” with breaking news anymore someone else is always beating him to it.

[Mr. Body]

It’s crazy how hard he’s fallen. He doesn’t even have the “woj bombs” with breaking news anymore someone else is always beating him to it.

Disney, man. Disney.

[ducks]

Wonder if Leonard would sign a contract with Boston or Philly with a player option after 2 yrs.

Maybe with his health he could then Superman out with Boston

[pad300]

I heard the Spurs are going to add a psychiatrist to the Spurs medical staff.

If they don't already have a sports psychiatrist on staff, they REALLY should. Getting someone like Kyle Anderson to be more aggressive and quit passing up good shots would be huge...

[Gino20]

Shams is the man now.

[Gino20]

Nevermind...Jabari is.

[Spurs9]

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Lakers looking into getting other assets for Kawhi trade/3 team deal?

[MoSpur02]

Per Stephen A Smith, "LeBron James reached out to Kevin Durant to see if he would join LeBron in L.A."

[dbestpro]

Per Stephen A Smith, "LeBron James reached out to Kevin Durant to see if he would join LeBron in L.A."

That would be hilarious.

[RD2191]

Per Stephen A Smith, "LeBron James reached out to Kevin Durant to see if he would join LeBron in L.A."

Crofl. SAS is a hack. Dude is full of shit.

[look_at_g_shred]

Per Stephen A Smith, "LeBron James reached out to Kevin Durant to see if he would join LeBron in L.A."
I was just thinking about this when I heard Durant opted out. He's already won 2 ships with GSW, and he isn't going to take anymore shit than when he left the first time. I could definitely see that.

[MoSpur02]

1012335301593722880

Lakers looking into getting other assets for Kawhi trade/3 team deal?

I have been saying Orlando for awhile. I don't think they trade with San Antonio though, but for some reason I have always thought they might be involved.

[Chucho]

Crofl. SAS is a hack. Dude is full of shit.

This.

If you need blow off-camera, he's the guy. Need really, really stupid takes, he's the guy. Only kept around because of the talent exodus.

[MoSpur02]

If true, LeBron is weak for wanting KD to go with him. This league is full of players who are like chicks that need another chick to go to the restroom together to talk or whatever.

[dbreiden83080]

Per Stephen A Smith, "LeBron James reached out to Kevin Durant to see if he would join LeBron in L.A."

Yeah

No..

[dbestpro]

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Lakers looking into getting other assets for Kawhi trade/3 team deal?

Always thought Ross was going to turn into a much better player than his stats currently indicate. Vucevic is a double double most games.

[dbreiden83080]

I was just thinking about this when I heard Durant opted out. He's already won 2 ships with GSW, and he isn't going to take anymore shit than when he left the first time. I could definitely see that.

Than go back to OKC. How would you go from beating Lebron 2 straight times to wanting to play with him?

[Kuestmaster]

LeBron would be seen the biggest coward in the league if he really went that way. I don't think that's what he wants. He cares so much about his legacy to put himself in that position.

Durant? He will go wherever it's the easiest path to win. He is a betta faggot.

[lmbebo]

Always thought Ross was going to turn into a much better player than his stats currently indicate.

What does that trade look like ....?

[MoSpur02]

Per Stephen A Smith, "supposedly Pop and Kawhi had another conversation last night. He (Kawhi) is not having fun playing for the Spurs. Apparently Kawhi has no problem playing for the Clippers. Philadelphia also hasn't given up on trying to get Kawhi. The Spurs are supposedly asking for Kuzma, Hart, Ingram, and a pick."

[exstatic]

Per Stephen A Smith, "LeBron James reached out to Kevin Durant to see if he would join LeBron in L.A."

That WOULD be hilarious, and also very unlikely. He's spent his whole career in LeBron's shadow. Would he want that literally every day?

[look_at_g_shred]

Than go back to OKC. How would you go from beating Lebron 2 straight times to wanting to play with him?
Because he's kevin fucking durant. The biggest pussy bitch in the history of the NBA.

[Extra Stout]

Per Stephen A Smith, "LeBron James reached out to Kevin Durant to see if he would join LeBron in L.A."With the Spurs having thrown a wrench in the gears of the Lakers’ master plan, LeBron is reaching out to see who else might be willing to come to L.A. to salvage the deal.

If nothing materializes in 48 hours, I bet he stays in Cleveland.

[RD2191]

Per Stephen A Smith, "supposedly Pop and Kawhi had another conversation last night. He (Kawhi) is not having fun playing for the Spurs. Apparently Kawhi has no problem playing for the Clippers. Philadelphia has also hasn't given up on trying to get Kawhi. The Spurs are supposedly asking for Kuzma, Hart, Ingram, and a pick."

Oh so now it's because he's not having fun? Gtfo SAS :lol

[lmbebo]

Oh so now it's because he's not having fun? Gtfo SAS :lol

#winning isn't fun ...

Drama wasn't there until he created it ...

[look_at_g_shred]

How could you not have fun playing for SA? YOU are the focal point of the offense. The ball runs through you almost every play. Seems odd.

[jjktkk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2RoEZqnyp0

Sounds a lot less certain to me than ESPN wants.

Also funny that 4 other teams have made offers, but ESPN only wants to talk about LA. Bias so obvious.

ESPN and the media in general only care about the NBA forming these so called "super teams". They couldn't care less about small market teams like San Antonio, regardless of the Spurs storied history.

[Spurs9]

Could Kawhi have fun if Lebron came to SA tbh?

[Extra Stout]

How could you not have fun playing for SA? YOU are the focal point of the offense. The ball runs through you almost every play. Seems odd.
#nightlife #beach #honeys

[dbestpro]

What does that trade look like ....?

Probably sees Ball (7.4m) and Deng (18m) to Orlando, Leonard (20m) to LA, Ingram (5.7m), Vucevic (12.7m), and Kuzma (1.4m) to Spurs with spare parts or draft picks to balance. Ross (10.5m) probably would be sent to LA or maybe Ross goes to the Spurs and the Spurs add Mills (11m) contract to LA. Just lots of conjecture.

[MoSpur02]

Per Stephen A Smith, "Kawhi's camp is telling Kawhi to be careful for what you're asking for. He doesn't like all the noise (media attention) and playing for L.A means a lot more noise than what it is playing in San Antonio."

[picnroll]

I guess Spurs don’t need a psychiatrist, they need to hire a clown.

[Spurs da champs]

Per Stephen A Smith, "Kawhi's camp is telling Kawhi to be careful for what you're asking for. He doesn't like all the noise (media attention) and playing for L.A means a lot more noise than what it is playing in San Antonio."

Kawhi is legit retarded.

[exstatic]

#nightlife #beach #honeys

Then, why did he re-sign in 2015? This is all just crap, and a smokescreen for Uncle Fester's agency. He doesn't want to play with LeBron because he sucks all the air out of the room AND he already has a very successful agency that will squash The Group's nascent efforts.

[MoSpur02]

If I'm LeBron, I'm texting Kawhi (if Kawhi even has a phone with texting capability) and asking him about teaming up here in San Antonio. That sounds like a lot of "fun" to me.

[dbestpro]

How could you not have fun playing for SA? YOU are the focal point of the offense. The ball runs through you almost every play. Seems odd.

The night life for black celebrities is not all that in SA. Got a feeling its more about culture.

[MoSpur02]

I guess Spurs don’t need a psychiatrist, they need to hire a clown.

Literally :lol

[BillMc]

Per Stephen A Smith, "Kawhi's camp is telling Kawhi to be careful for what you're asking for. He doesn't like all the noise (media attention) and playing for L.A means a lot more noise than what it is playing in San Antonio."

It'd be funny if Uncle D and the group thought this was all a negotiating ploy for the Super Max, only to realize they created a monster in Kawhi who really wants to go and have to hit the breaks. :lol

[Ron Swanson]

Per Stephen A Smith, "Kawhi's camp is telling Kawhi to be careful for what you're asking for. He doesn't like all the noise (media attention) and playing for L.A means a lot more noise than what it is playing in San Antonio."

So Kawhi’s camp was pushing for a trade and now they’re warning him about the attention from playing in LA?

Bullshit.

[r0drig0lac]

Per Stephen A Smith, "Kawhi's camp is telling Kawhi to be careful for what you're asking for. He doesn't like all the noise (media attention) and playing for L.A means a lot more noise than what it is playing in San Antonio."
hahahahaha "Kawhi's camp" ..ok

[look_at_g_shred]

Per Stephen A Smith, "Kawhi's camp is telling Kawhi to be careful for what you're asking for. He doesn't like all the noise (media attention) and playing for L.A means a lot more noise than what it is playing in San Antonio."
What in the actual fuck? LOL

[Killakobe81]

So Kawhi’s camp was pushing for a trade and now they’re warning him about the attention from playing in LA?

Bullshit.

Agree it doesn't make sense if Lebron goes he will get all the attention anyways.
But all this wild speculation is silly.
Hopefully this all ends soon either way.
I wouldnt mind rolling with the kids if all else fails.
I think by tradeline Ingram, Zo and Kuz will prove they are worth more than they are right now in some circles so maybe we avoid an overpay.

[RD2191]

So Kawhi’s camp was pushing for a trade and now they’re warning him about the attention from playing in LA?

Bullshit.

All of these leaks are full of shit tbh. They all contradict each other and make absolutely no sense.

[99 Problems]

Sounds to me that LA big plans are stalling. Bron reaching out to others. Kawhi will have no option but open up his list if he serious about getting out. Still think he going over to Bretty Brown but if Ainge thinks there’s a chance Bron stays put in Cavs he’s not going to just watch Bron retool again and cost the Celts a playoff spot.

[Dex]

So if you go by the various reports that have come out over the last 1-2 months...Kawhi wants to go play in L.A., wants the supermax, wants better talent around him, wants to continue to get his MVP/All-NBA accolades, and wants more endorsement money, but doesn't want to be "the man" and doesn't want the attention of a big market.

Like how the fuck does he really think he is going to get all of those things?

[BackHome]

K-Y will fold up faster then a hot taco if he goes to a big media market.

[szkorhetz]

If I'm Kawhi, I'm texting LeBron (if Kawhi even has a phone with texting capability) and asking him about teaming up here in San Antonio. That sounds like a lot of "fun" to me.
Fixed.

[objective]

Pray that Lonnie Walker is this years Donovan Mitchell.

Also pray that White is legit and gets a chance ahead of undersized twigs

Also pray that Milutinov comes in and wrecks guys with picks and is a solid 20 minutes of pain instead if Lolfrey's sad act

Add in a better shot from Murray-and a better fully recovered Gay

And IT'S ON

[RD2191]

So if you go by the various reports that have come out over the last 1-2 months...Kawhi wants to go play in L.A., wants the supermax, wants better talent around him, wants to continue to get his MVP/All-NBA accolades, and wants more endorsement money, but doesn't want to be "the man" and doesn't want the attention of a big market.

Like how the fuck does he really think he is going to get all of those things?

No offense but you'd be pretty stupid to believe any of those reports.

[Dex]

No offense but you'd be pretty stupid to believe any of those reports.

I think it's pretty obvious that most of these reports are bullshit since they directly contradict each other.

[coachmac87]

So if you go by the various reports that have come out over the last 1-2 months...Kawhi wants to go play in L.A., wants the supermax, wants better talent around him, wants to continue to get his MVP/All-NBA accolades, and wants more endorsement money, but doesn't want to be "the man" and doesn't want the attention of a big market.


Like how the fuck does he really think he is going to get all of those things?



Simple. Tell the Spurs he will stay if they retool and get aggressive

[rasuo214]

So if you go by the various reports that have come out over the last 1-2 months...Kawhi wants to go play in L.A., wants the supermax, wants better talent around him, wants to continue to get his MVP/All-NBA accolades, and wants more endorsement money, but doesn't want to be "the man" and doesn't want the attention of a big market.

Like how the fuck does he really think he is going to get all of those things?

Maybe every report isn't true? Everyone was reporting that the meeting with Pop was going to be in NY only for it to happen in San Diego (without being reported prior) and it was planned to be there the entire time. Kawhi rarely talks or expresses his intentions. All of sudden the media has all these sources about what he wants or doesn't want.

[dbestpro]

If there is a way to get Montrezl Harrell I would do it. Dude has a mean streak.

[RD2191]

I think it's pretty obvious that most of these reports are bullshit since they directly contradict each other.

Exactly :lol

[Mr. Body]

It'd be funny if Uncle D and the group thought this was all a negotiating ploy for the Super Max, only to realize they created a monster in Kawhi who really wants to go and have to hit the breaks. :lol

I think this is truer than we think.

[duncan2150]

I don't understand people who don't want to trade Kawhi to the Lakers.... ok he may want only lakers and we will fulfill his desire but if the trade give us randle kuzma and ingram + pick/picks ( at least ingram randle and picks) , imo we would not find better young guys with another team.

So if it's the better offer i'm ok with it.

[MoSpur02]

So if Kawhi is okay playing with the Clippers, what do they have besides Harris to send to San Antonio? Would a third team have to get involved?

According to S.A.S, Brown would like Kawhi and is open to trading for Kawhi? Wonder what they're willing to give up?

[Spurs9]

Man this whole Kawhi thing has been wild all year long, what other NBA story has dragged out this long? Didn't even seem like the Lebron decision was as dramatic as this.

[BillMc]

Man this whole Kawhi thing has been wild all year long, what other NBA story has dragged out this long? Didn't even seem like the Lebron decision was as dramatic as this.

Fultz implosion only thing even on par this year.

[rasuo214]

The initial reports were Kawhi's preference was LA, NY or Philly. The Clippers don't have much and unless the Knicks are trading Porzingis they are also useless. So that leaves Philly, hopefully they up their offer. Saric, Fultz and Miami 1st is at worst equal to what the Lakers can offer and has the added benefit of not trading him to the Lakers.

[objective]

Man this whole Kawhi thing has been wild all year long, what other NBA story has dragged out this long? Didn't even seem like the Lebron decision was as dramatic as this.

Dwightmare dragged on over a year if I need remember right

[BillMc]

The initial reports were Kawhi's preference was LA, NY or Philly. The Clippers don't have much and unless the Knicks are trading Porzingis they are also useless. So that leaves Philly, hopefully they up their offer. Saric, Fultz and Miami 1st is at worst equal to what the Lakers can offer and has the added benefit of not trading him to the Lakers.

Porzinigis and a NY #1 pick would be as good as anything else I've seen out there.

[NASpurs]

So if Kawhi is okay playing with the Clippers, what do they have besides Harris to send to San Antonio? Would a third team have to get involved?

According to S.A.S, Brown would like Kawhi and is open to trading for Kawhi? Wonder what they're willing to give up?

I'm blanking here, who's Brown?

[BillMc]

Dwightmare dragged on over a year if I need remember right

And the Melo-drama Denver to NY seemed to go on forever.

[picnroll]

Fultz, Smith, Saric and Miami pick and it’s a deal. That gives the Spurs three shots at an A player, Walker, Fultz, Smith.

[Spurs9]

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[Spurs9]

I'm blanking here, who's Brown?

Brett

[NASpurs]

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[NASpurs]

Brett

Well that's embarrassing for me. Either that or it's too early in the morning. Cool thanks.

[BillMc]

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What happened to RC draft day statement to keep KL in the fold.

Or Young's "Good meeting, will meet again."

:lol

Probably decided you can't give that kind of money to a guy who turned out to be a head case and the opposite of a leader, no how good he is.

[Spurs9]

If Lonzo is traded somewhere, that most likley signals Kawhi is headed to LA.

[picnroll]

Wouldn’t surprise me if Lebron made it a condition of coming to the Lakers that they dump Lonzo and his wacko father.

[bklynspursfan]

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[NASpurs]

LET'S GO BOSTON

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[djohn2oo8]

Y'all my nigs and I feel bad for Kawhi acting like a bitch.

[Ron Swanson]

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[Spurs9]

LET'S GO BOSTON

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Tatum or Brown + anything and I'll take it.

[djohn2oo8]

LET'S GO BOSTON

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that would be hilarious if Boston long dicks the Lakers

[BillMc]

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Play 'em against each other RC.

[NASpurs]

SAVE US BOSTON :lol

[Mr. Body]

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Boston's gonna be chintzy.

[spursistan]

So yeah, looks like this is going down tonight..

[MoSpur02]

What happened to RC draft day statement to keep KL in the fold.

Or Young's "Good meeting, will meet again."

:lol

Probably decided you can't give that kind of money to a guy who turned out to be a head case and the opposite of a leader, no how good he is.

Well apparently Kawhi and Pop spoke again last night and stated he wants to play in L.A. (close to home)." I'm sure the Spurs have tried and tried to convince him to stay WITHOUT offering the supermax and can't get him to commit to them so it's time to move on. According to all these reports. Not saying this is true, just according to these reports.

[BillMc]

SAVE US BOSTON :lol
:lol

[Clipper Nation]

It’s crazy how hard he’s fallen. He doesn’t even have the “woj bombs” with breaking news anymore someone else is always beating him to it.

That's not true at all. Just look at the draft - he was spoiling every pick so quickly that Shams actually gave up and stopped tweeting.

Woj has always had biases and agendas. Anyone who's read the articles he's written about LeBron over the years knows that. He's also a huge Danny Ainge/Celtics fanboy.

[MoSpur02]

Woj just tweeted that the Spurs are fully engaged in trade talks including the Lakers and Celtics.

[BillMc]

Well apparently Kawhi and Pop spoke again last night and stated he wants to play in L.A. (close to home)." I'm sure the Spurs have tried and tried to convince him to stay WITHOUT offering the supermax and can't get him to commit to them so it's time to move on. According to all these reports. Not saying this is true, just according to these reports.

Thanks man. Didn't know Pop and KL spoke last night again.

[NASpurs]

Come on Philly, don't be shy. Your biggest rival in your conference might get a top 5 player.

[NASpurs]

Fucking Woj man, I don't know what to believe anymore.

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[MoSpur02]

Plus he tweeted that the Spurs can take their time and maybe offer the supermax.

[bklynspursfan]

Play 'em against each other RC.

indeed

[TVI]

So if you go by the various reports that have come out over the last 1-2 months...Kawhi wants to go play in L.A., wants the supermax, wants better talent around him, wants to continue to get his MVP/All-NBA accolades, and wants more endorsement money, but doesn't want to be "the man" and doesn't want the attention of a big market.

Like how the fuck does he really think he is going to get all of those things? Dex with the goods, TBH.

[Spurs9]

Best position to do the trade right now before FA, probably gets done soon.

[MoSpur02]

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I told y'all. They haven't offered it and this is the real reason he is "saying" he wants to go to the Lakers or Los Angeles for that matter.

[BillMc]

If Boston gives us Tatum and Kyrie screw the picks, I'd take that.

[SpursDynasty85]

If Kyrie wants to sign with SA that would be ideal although the money coupled with his injury history could be a negative. I forsee a multi team trade with eastern conference teams happening. They are not going to give Kawhi what he wants unless Lakers literally sell the house for him which I imagine is something the Lakers might not be willing to do.

[spursistan]

Fucking Woj man, I don't know what to believe anymore.

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He is hedging :lmao..

[Spurs9]

If Boston gives us Tatum and Kyrie screw the picks, I'd take that.

If Kawhi was willing to commit, do you think they would actually offer that? Even with Kyrie with a year left, I would definitely take that deal.