Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[MoSpur02]

Kawhi spotted on public transit in LA :lol



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Can't be him. That guy is using a phone. I don't think Kawhi owns a phone.

[spurschamps99030507]

Exactly. Been saying this. Kawhi is a top 5 player in the league. You don't trade him for role players. You have to receive at the very least an All Star player in return.

I saw the playoffs and the sixers, the little time that fultz played seemed a promising player but the fact is that he did not play in the whole year for a mysterious injury and the most worrying thing is that he disappeared without a convincing explanation of the playoffs.


the sixers are very desperate after james went to LA, now they are using the Philadelphia press


http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/sixers-76ers-general-manager-search-josh-harris-brett-brown-kiki-vandedeweghe-david-griffin-rc-buford-20180709.html



even to remove Buford from the spurs ... they are making a fool of themselves, SA does not have to do anything


We do not need more role players, the offer is garbage, it's not enough


I prefer that Pop talk with Leonard in two weeks in the USA training camp



The Sixers’ most realistic package to submit to San Antonio could involve Dario Saric, Robert Covington and the Miami Heat’s 2021 unprotected first-round pick. However, the Spurs want two players — again, believed to be Saric and Covington — and three future first-round picks (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/sixers-76ers-kawhi-leonard-josh-harris-20180709.html)

saric and covington for a 3 top player? are you serious?

[spurschamps99030507]

Fultz played in as many playoff games as Derrick White and hit 1/3 the number of shots as White on more attempts than White.

I do think Fultz will turn out okay, as he’s super young. But the Spurs in negotiations need to be hammering home the fact that the #1 pick couldn’t see the court in round 2. He’s also making over $22 million in years 3 and 4 ... year 2 is irrelevant at this point, which is more annual money than the Kyle Anderson deal the Spurs declined to match. Those high salary numbers have to count against his value, as does his insane QO in year 5 at over $15 million.

Having the #1 pick is great if it hits. It’s also expensive. For comparison, the #3 pick he was dealt for is about $4-$4.5 million cheaper over years 3 and 4.

Same negotiation tactic needs to take hold with the Lakers on Ball and Ingram. They’re not cheap prospects like Kawhi was at one point, or Mitchell is, or Greek Freak was, or how Kuzma (ugh) is. These early first rounders are damn expensive.

yes you know, i don't like their tactics (sixers), at this point i prefer to keep leonard and fix the issues in the USA training camp

[Maddog]

[FONT=tahoma]I saw the playoffs and the sixers, the little time that fultz played seemed a promising player but the fact is that he did not play in the whole year for a mysterious injury and the most worrying thing is that he disappeared without a convincing explanation of the playoffs.




Based on this it seems like Fultz for Kawhi seems appropriate

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fwiw per Philadelphia Inquirer 76ers feel they can sign Leonard and are offering Saric, Covington and the Miami unprotected 1st round pick. Spurs want Saric, Covington and 3 picks, probably the Miami pick, Sac unprotected 2019 pick and some other pick. Spurs say they have a better offer than what the 6ers are offering and Philly says their willing to walk away.

[tbdog]

Can't be him. That guy is using a phone. I don't think Kawhi owns a phone.

He doesn't look 6ft6

[szkorhetz]

fwiw per Philadelphia Inquirer 76ers feel they can sign Leonard and are offering Saric, Covington and the Miami unprotected 1st round pick. Spurs want Saric, Covington and 3 picks, probably the Miami pick, Sac unprotected 2019 pick and some other pick. Spurs say they have a better offer than what the 6ers are offering and Philly says their willing to walk away.
That package, even with 3 first rounders is fucking lowballing.

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That package, even with 3 first rounders is fucking lowballing.

Everybody figures they have SA by the balls. Best thing is if Leonard shows up at the USA camp, shows he still has game and expands the number of teams he’s willing to sign with if he truly wants to get out of SA this year.

[lebomb]

No shit. If I dont get get Fultz and Saric plus picks. Kawhi stays right here. Let his value drop all year and he can take his ass to LA.

[RGMCSE]

No shit. If I dont get get Fultz and Saric plus picks. Kawhi stays right here. Let his value drop all year and he can take his ass to LA.

Hey lebomb is that you're wife in the avatar?

[acoelho1]

I wish he would do it. Not necessarily kidnap, but I wish that Pop could talk to Kawhi without any other member of the "group." I don't know Kawhi or anything, but it's so hard to believe that he's totally onboard with all the craziness.

I think the Spurs believe this as well and there was a report that the Spurs thought Kawhi’s group didnt have his best interest at heart. Getting Kawhi alone will probably be our last hope to salvage this relationship and if it means that can’t occur until training camp, so be it.

[bklynspursfan]

Parking here in NY is more than some of your guys’ rent down in Texas. Nobody owns cars unless money literally doesn’t matter, or you live in public housing where they give you free parking too. Subways and taxi/Uber gets you everywhere, and you just rent cars on the weekend when you need to.

That is the truth haha. I use Zipcar if I need a car for anything

[Seventyniner]

He obviously trusts his mom and uncle to handle everything, but he has to be aware that the agency is shady, right? So, he doesn't care or just trusts that his mom/uncle won't steer him wrong.

None is so blind as he who will not see.

[YGWHI]

500 pages and not even close to a trade :lol
Couldn't read/post anything in last 3 days, just check now...there are 160 new pages...:lol

[sasaint]

Can't be him. That guy is using a phone. I don't think Kawhi owns a phone.

You mean no uncle Dennis holding his hand...

[cutewizard]

I'm ready for something to happen.

Philly is the only move. They have the medical info, they have a big market, they have the assets, they have a free road to the Finals for the next 5 years with Kiwi and Brett Brown is terrified of getting schooled by Stevens again.

If Uncle Dennis has any brain he saw what going to the Finals every year did for Bron...

Get it done already.

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[FvckMavs]

You mean no uncle Dennis holding his hand...

sigh, the blood-sucking uncle Dennis has really killed nephew's image and reputation with his own hands.

[Spurs9]

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[Spurs da champs]

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I doubt they lure RC away but if they do does that mean no for Kawhi to the sixers? RC is part of the regime that Kawhi's camp has a problem with, no?

[spurs10]

1016674150021120001 I don't see RC leaving. I suppose they could offer him a check he couldn't refuse, but he's a Spurs guy. Can't blame them for trying.

[jjktkk]

That shit makes no sense. Why the deal breaker would be two future late first round picks?

Philly is just lowballing the Spurs. I mean, look at what that dipshit, Sixer's exec. Josh Harris said in this article... “If the right situation comes where we can acquire someone that can really add value to our program and the cost of it isn’t prohibitive, then we’ll move forward and do that,”. One of the best players in the league is going to do a helluva of a lot more than "someone that can really add value" to a team trying to become a championship contender.

[Spurs9]

Philly is just lowballing the Spurs. I mean, look at what that dipshit, Sixer's exec. Josh Harris said in this article... “If the right situation comes where we can acquire someone that can really add value to our program and the cost of it isn’t prohibitive, then we’ll move forward and do that,”. One of the best players in the league is going to do a helluva of a lot more than "someone that can really add value" to a team trying to become a championship contender.

Whats the closest player in talent even available for them to add?

[lebomb]

Hey lebomb is that you're wife in the avatar?

No, but I would lick her fawtbox if I could. :claw

[jjktkk]

Whats the closest player in talent even available for them to add?

Simmons, Embid, which obviously the Sixers won't include in any kind of trade for Leonard. The Spurs won't come close to getting equal value for Leonard, but, on the other hand, they can't take these low ball offers like the Sixers and Lakers are offering either.

[kjhip1]

So according to Chris Carter, in Kawhi/pop meeting, pop stated he would do what he can to facilitate trade...

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I hope there isn’t another 500 pages of nothing still to come

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[RGMCSE]

No, but I would lick her fawtbox if I could. :claw


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Yeah, same here.

[MoSpur02]

So according to Chris Carter, in Kawhi/pop meeting, pop stated he would do what he can to facilitate trade...

When did Cris Carter say this? Recently or awhile back?

[DPG21920]

So according to Chris Carter, in Kawhi/pop meeting, pop stated he would do what he can to facilitate trade...

So that’s Kawhi’s camp’s next move? Try to make Pop the nice guy to see if that helps their cause, but also set Pop up as the meanie if a deal doesn’t get done. “He told us he would try to do right by us and now he’s going back on his word”.

Im at least glad Carter mentioned that Pop was very honest with Kawhi that he will try to accommodate him but it can’t be at the expense of SA. So if Kawhi is not going to put pressure on LA to make a competitive offer then it’s on LA for not stepping up knowing they would trade him there for something solid.

Also, Carter doing the the leaks of “you can’t guarantee Kawhi will even show up to PHI if they trade for him” to damage their value.

[DPG21920]

When did Cris Carter say this? Recently or awhile back?

Today.

[Kindergarten Cop]

When did Cris Carter say this? Recently or awhile back?

He said it this morning on First Things First. He announced it in the form of breaking news and made it sound as if Pop was going to do everything that he could to make Kawhi happy - including trading him to the Lakers if that's what Kawhi really wants (but the Spurs had to get a good offer).

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When did Cris Carter say this? Recently or awhile back?

I think I heard him say that at week ago too.

But who knows? The saga of As the Muted One Turns has become a shitshow of incompetent representation and leaks from the very beginning of this thing. Even all the way back before last summer, going back years if you believe Wright's reports on the mismanagement from uncle.

[John B]

Playing GM in a bigger market like Philly, where players really want to play? Why not? No more juggling D-Leaguers, bottom-of-the-bucket talents to fit cap space? And Pops will be gone soon anyways. I wouldn’t be surprised

[DPG21920]

Man, that RC stuff to PHI is interesting. I truly wonder that with all that has gone on, TP gone, Manu likely gone best case after one more season, no Tim, no Kawhi and Pop leaving soon?

I could see RC leaving. Could you imagine that Tim leaving would cause literally this big of a ripple effect? Maybe that is how RC/Pop do right by SA on the way out. As part of a trade with PHI they get RC and that is what entices them to add a Fultz and all the picks for Kawhi.

If they whiff on Kawhi they have an elite GM to handle things moving forward with tons of cap space and two young stars. Pop coaches one year and leaves, RC is gone, but at least they set SA up with some young talent and lots of picks for the rebuild they won’t be around to see through?

[rjv]

I think I heard him say that at week ago too.

But who knows? The saga of As the Muted One Turns has become a shitshow of incompetent representation and leaks from the very beginning of this thing. Even all the way back before last summer, going back years if you believe Wright's reports on the mismanagement from uncle.

this saga has reached the point of recycled speculation where if you really read what is now being said, there really is nothing new as of late to have come out.

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this saga has reached the point of recycled speculation where if you really read what is now being said, there really is nothing new as of late to have come out.

Yep. And I just looked it up and he did say something similar back after the Laker trade was requested.

Who knows? Pop may have told him thought, in fact I bet he did. But, I also think that it's just Pop being Pop because he loves his guys. He's not going to trade him for table scraps, though.

Nor should he, just to assuage the Kawhior.

[BackHome]

You all smoking some shitty stuff if you think RC is going to Philly. Lol

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[Mugen]

Man, that RC stuff to PHI is interesting. I truly wonder that with all that has gone on, TP gone, Manu likely gone best case after one more season, no Tim, no Kawhi and Pop leaving soon?

I could see RC leaving. Could you imagine that Tim leaving would cause literally this big of a ripple effect? Maybe that is how RC/Pop do right by SA on the way out. As part of a trade with PHI they get RC and that is what entices them to add a Fultz and all the picks for Kawhi.

If they whiff on Kawhi they have an elite GM to handle things moving forward with tons of cap space and two young stars. Pop coaches one year and leaves, RC is gone, but at least they set SA up with some young talent and lots of picks for the rebuild they won’t be around to see through?

I highly doubt RC is going anywhere.


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Just f'n do it and be done with all this bullshit. Anything short of a no-trade clause, I'm fine with now.

[kjhip1]

When did Cris Carter say this? Recently or awhile back?

This morning on show with nick wright, first things first

[MoSpur02]

I just watched the clip of First Things First. Cris Carter is definitely in on this whole thing. I seriously hope he's making this up. I would not send him to where he wants to go unless the Spurs get Ingram, Hart, Kuzma, picks, and take back Gasol or Mills

[johnnymoore]

I think I heard him say that at week ago too.

But who knows? The saga of As the Muted One Turns has become a shitshow of incompetent representation and leaks from the very beginning of this thing. Even all the way back before last summer, going back years if you believe Wright's reports on the mismanagement from uncle.

If Kawhi ends up playing where he wants to play next summer (Lakers/Clippers/Sixers/Where ever) - his management team has done its job.

With respect to the money: 5 years/$222 million vs 4 years/$147 million is a $75 million gap on paper, but if Kawhi is back to being Kawhi, he doesn't sign a 4 year deal next summer, he signs a 1+1 or 2+1, opts out at 29 or 30, and on his 2nd deal he makes up most of the difference with the bigger cap.

I believe the difference between accepting 5/$222M from the Spurs and signing a 2 year max elsewhere & then reupping for 3 more is about $8 million.

Moreover, Dave Chappelle told people it was easy for him to walk away from a $50 million dollar contract with Comedy Central because he was still making millions of dollars and his lifestyle wasn't going to change. Worst case, if Kawhi signs for the straight 4/147 instead of 5/222 - will he notice the difference in his lifestyle? No, especially if he can still add a 5th year later for 40 million.

As for the state taxes - the only people who'll notice it are the accountants, and the tax hit is not as big as you think. Players pay taxes IN THE STATE WHERE THE GAME IS PLAYED, so he'll get 20+ games tax free. Plus, sales taxes, property taxes, luxury taxes and the like are MUCH higher in Texas & Florida than in California, so the effective difference is even smaller. That's why Shaq bolted from Orlando to the Lakers - the Magic owner tried to hit him with the "our offer is better even though it's lower because you won't pay state taxes" line, but Shaq's accountant showed him the fallacy & Shaq took the Lakers' money instead.

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this can be interpreted in so many ways.

[Budkin]

You all smoking some shitty stuff if you think RC is going to Philly. Lol

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rc going to philly would make leonard not stay in philly

[JPB]

Hey lebomb is that you're wife in the avatar?


No, but I would lick her fawtbox if I could. :claw

Don't talk about my gal like that, will you.

[TheGreatYacht]

Sell high on Drunkford before the mainstream media finds out what a fraudster that guy is.

Those Fatty Shills and Fat Gasol deals make sense now. Fuck over the team for a handful of years after you're gone so you seem valuable and not a product of Tim Duncan

[coachmac87]

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I could be off a bit but I really get the feeling that Cris Carter doesn’t understand the difference between NFL/NBA.

He keeps mentioning “holding out” or not showing up.. that’s just not how it works in the NBA. I feel like he’s thinking from an NFL perspective..

He may be connected with’s Kawhi camp but he just seems way off on his reasoning or explanation.

I also don’t understand that he’s been “holding” the dialogue between Pop/Kawhi meeting...that just shows there’s a narrative or agenda at play and it wouldn’t “fit” if he talked about it once he heard.

Seriously fuck the media..always trying to ruin the world lol

[Budkin]

I could be off a bit but I really get the feeling that Cris Carter doesn’t understand the difference between NFL/NBA.

He keeps mentioning “holding out” or not showing up.. that’s just not how it works in the NBA. I feel like he’s thinking from an NFL perspective..

He may be connected with’s Kawhi camp but he just seems way off on his reasoning or explanation.

I also don’t understand that he’s been “holding” the dialogue between Pop/Kawhi meeting...that just shows there’s a narrative or agenda at play and it wouldn’t “fit” if he talked about it once he heard.

Seriously fuck the media..always trying to ruin the world lol

How does Chris Carter even have a connection to "Uncle Dennis" anyway?

[DPG21920]

How does Chris Carter even have a connection to "Uncle Dennis" anyway?

Chris Carter’s NFL agent (his first one) is Kawhi’s agent now.

[Gordonicci]

How does Chris Carter even have a connection to "Uncle Dennis" anyway?
I believe that Kiwi's new agent is Carter's old agent.....or something like that.

Edit: DPG beat me to it.

[coachmac87]

If Kawhi ends up playing where he wants to play next summer (Lakers/Clippers/Sixers/Where ever) - his management team has done its job.

With respect to the money: 5 years/$222 million vs 4 years/$147 million is a $75 million gap on paper, but if Kawhi is back to being Kawhi, he doesn't sign a 4 year deal next summer, he signs a 1+1 or 2+1, opts out at 29 or 30, and on his 2nd deal he makes up most of the difference with the bigger cap.

I believe the difference between accepting 5/$222M from the Spurs and signing a 2 year max elsewhere & then reupping for 3 more is about $8 million.

Moreover, Dave Chappelle told people it was easy for him to walk away from a $50 million dollar contract with Comedy Central because he was still making millions of dollars and his lifestyle wasn't going to change. Worst case, if Kawhi signs for the straight 4/147 instead of 5/222 - will he notice the difference in his lifestyle? No, especially if he can still add a 5th year later for 40 million.

As for the state taxes - the only people who'll notice it are the accountants, and the tax hit is not as big as you think. Players pay taxes IN THE STATE WHERE THE GAME IS PLAYED, so he'll get 20+ games tax free. Plus, sales taxes, property taxes, luxury taxes and the like are MUCH higher in Texas & Florida than in California, so the effective difference is even smaller. That's why Shaq bolted from Orlando to the Lakers - the Magic owner tried to hit him with the "our offer is better even though it's lower because you won't pay state taxes" line, but Shaq's accountant showed him the fallacy & Shaq took the Lakers' money instead.

It ain’t about Kawhi bruh..it’s the Uncle who’s building a “brand”. There’s plenty of players who are signed for the 4/140m contract etc or range.

But name the ones signed for 220M+?

Being an agent or agency is maximizing earnings. Especially someone who’s new to the game or getting his feet wet. The ultimate success for Uncle D is getting Kawhi traded to Lakers and signs 5yr/180M+ he got his player his $ and the market.

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Sell high on Drunkford before the mainstream media finds out what a fraudster that guy is.

Those Fatty Shills and Fat Gasol deals make sense now. Fuck over the team for a handful of years after you're gone so you seem valuable and not a product of Tim Duncan

I'm so fed up with this tripe. Mills is signed for 3 and 37.5M more. He had a relatively bad year by his efficiency standards last year, yet still managed to be the second leading scorer on the team. And he only takes 11% of the cap.

And, his contract is easily tradable if it comes to that. Don't believe that? See every Patty hater on this board just randomly throwing him into every trade as though it's no problem, so even they know.

The Pau deal was bad but he had done the team a solid and was rewarded. And guess what you steaming pile of pus, we are merely one year removed from being past that one for all intents and purposes. He is only guaranteed $6M after next year, which is again, a very easy contract to trade. In the interim, he will still occasionally provide solid back up minutes.

Lol @ you fools, especially the Spurhaters amongst us, thinking you know shit, let alone more than the best GM in the bidness. You know squat. Now get bent you loathsome waste of Earth space.

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How does Chris Carter even have a connection to "Uncle Dennis" anyway?

Kawhi's 'football' agent, the guy who IS Impact, was Cris Carter's agent when he played football. Just consider Carter to be part of The Group.

[kjhip1]

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I find it funny that Chris Carter says he was holding onto this info, yet was adamant that Kawhi would be better suited to hold out if pop/FO didn’t facilitate the request. Nick Wright will believe anything CC says...I really hope we get more details on how everything went down once all this drama is settled

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It ain’t about Kawhi bruh..it’s the Uncle who’s building a “brand”. There’s plenty of players who are signed for the 4/140m contract etc or range.

But name the ones signed for 220M+?

Being an agent or agency is maximizing earnings. Especially someone who’s new to the game or getting his feet wet. The ultimate success for Uncle D is getting Kawhi traded to Lakers and signs 5yr/180M+ he got his player his $ and the market.

[coachmac87]

I'm so fed up with this tripe. Mills is signed for 3 and 37.5M more. He had a relatively bad year by his efficiency standards last year, yet still managed to be the second leading scorer on the team. And he only takes 11% of the cap.

And, his contract is easily tradable if it comes to that. Don't believe that? See every Patty hater on this board just randomly throwing him into every trade as though it's no problem, so even they know.

The Pau deal was bad but he had done the team a solid and was rewarded. And guess what you steaming pile of pus, we are merely one year removed from being past that one for all intents and purposes. He is only guaranteed $6M after next year, which is again, a very easy contract to trade. In the interim, he will still occasionally provide solid back up minutes.

Lol @ you fools, especially the Spurhaters amongst us, thinking you know shit, let alone more than the best GM in the bidness. You know squat. Now get bent you loathsome waste of Earth space.

Great Post

[spurs1990]

I'm so fed up with this tripe. Mills is signed for 3 and 37.5M more. He had a relatively bad year by his efficiency standards last year, yet still managed to be the second leading scorer on the team. And he only takes 11% of the cap.

And, his contract is easily tradable if it comes to that. Don't believe that? See every Patty hater on this board just randomly throwing him into every trade as though it's no problem, so even they know.

The Pau deal was bad but he had done the team a solid and was rewarded. And guess what you steaming pile of pus, we are merely one year removed from being past that one for all intents and purposes. He is only guaranteed $6M after next year, which is again, a very easy contract to trade. In the interim, he will still occasionally provide solid back up minutes.

Lol @ you fools, especially the Spurhaters amongst us, thinking you know shit, let alone more than the best GM in the bidness. You know squat. Now get bent you loathsome waste of Earth space.

I agree on Mills. He signed for paltry money even after 2014 where he had tons of back-breaking three's in that Finals.
He's also easily the best locker-room guy maybe in the entire league, just an absolute character guy. He's easy to root for.

Gasol is a different figure to me. If he signed here at an earlier part of his career like Robert Horry it would be one thing.
But not only is this a guy who beat you in 2008, he went on to snub the Spurs in 2014 to chase money in Chicago. Who knows maybe he would've been a guy that put those 2015 and 2016 Spurs teams over the top.

I totally get the 3/48m contract was rewarding him for opting out last July for the Chris Paul sweepstakes. But even with that he's grossly over-paid for both his worth, contribution, and history with the Spurs.

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I find it funny that Chris Carter says he was holding onto this info, yet was adamant that Kawhi would be better suited to hold out if pop/FO didn’t facilitate the request. Nick Wright will believe anything CC says...I really hope we get more details on how everything went down once all this drama is settled

He didn't hold onto anything. He already said the same thing over a week ago. Lol, dude cant even keep his own nonsense straight.

[Spur|n|Austin]

How does Chris Carter even have a connection to "Uncle Dennis" anyway?

Chris Carter had the same agent that Kawhi currently has I believe.

Edit - what others already said

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I agree on Mills. He signed for paltry money even after 2014 where he had tons of back-breaking three's in that Finals.
He's also easily the best locker-room guy maybe in the entire league, just an absolute character guy. He's easy to root for.

Gasol is a different figure to me. If he signed here at an earlier part of his career like Robert Horry it would be one thing.
But not only is this a guy who beat you in 2008, he went on to snub the Spurs in 2014 to chase money in Chicago. Who knows maybe he would've been a guy that put those 2015 and 2016 Spurs teams over the top.

I totally get the 3/48m contract was rewarding him for opting out last July for the Chris Paul sweepstakes. But even with that he's grossly over-paid for both his worth, contribution, and history with the Spurs.

Yeah, as I wrote, the Pau deal was bad. But even that is only one year removed from being behind us as they only guaranteed $6M that last year.

And i am guessing they thought they could trade him to a team seeking picks this year as they pursued one of the free agents to pair with Kawhitter. Probably well never know what RC s plan was, though. Why? Kawhi fucked up his plans.

Again, Kawhi fucked up errything. Have i said fuck Kawhi yet today? Hey Kawhi, fuck you!

[DAF86]

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To me it's pretty obvious that Kawhi's group is trying to find a way to land on the Lakers now. They are doing argumentative gymnastics to try and undo all the damage they did at the beginning when they said they would only sign with them. They thought that by saying that the Spurs would just cave in and trade them there. Little did they know that the Spurs wouldn't accept garbage offers, which is all they got from the Lakers, since they knew Kawhi was signing with them either way.

So now, they are backtracking and giving contradictory messages such as "Philly doesn't even have the certainty that Kawhi will show up for them, if they trade for him" (thing which I highly doubt is legal, but that's another argument) and then "if the Lakers don't offer something good, then Kawhi could consider a Boston or a Philly".

Amateurism all around, tbh. If Kawhi's camp really wants to land on the Lakers now, they should go to Magic and say: "you either trade for us now or Kawhi is signing else where next offseason". That would undo all the damage they have previously done.

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Just the group still trying to decrease Kawhi's value, force Spurs to accept shitty offers where they want to go and hurt them as much as they can. Bunch of mofos.

I have zero doubt Pop is gonna show who's dem daddy and show dem life.

[rastaspur]

I believe that Kiwi's new agent is Carter's old agent.....or something like that.

Edit: DPG beat me to it.

Kori also said chris carter's brother is a trainer of kawhis . So thats multiple connections

[spursistan]

Uncle Shitbag and his minions are in a pickle. They have more or less played all their cards. Only two remain: (a) the race card; (b) another rehab holdout or what is essentially career suicide.

That Cris Carter segment was the first sign of them bending the knee to Pop and "begging" to get traded.

The Spurs are in no rush, and thankfully, Pop/RC have shown the stomach to let this one play out until they get what they want in trade package return or on the off chance the nephew straightens his act and come back to the fold..

[Budkin]

Kori also said chris carter's brother is a trainer of kawhis . So thats multiple connections

Wow so yeah he's a pretty big part of all this. I'm guessing he stands to gain financially as well.

[coachmac87]

Uncle Shitbag and his minions are in a pickle. They have more or less played all their cards. Only two remain: (a) the race card; (b) another rehab holdout or what is essentially career suicide.

That Cris Carter segment was the first sign of them bending the knee to Pop and "begging" to get traded.

The Spurs are in no rush, and thankfully, Pop/RC have shown the stomach to let this one play out until they get what they want in trade package return or on the off chance the nephew straightens his act and come back to the fold..

Race card would also be suicide....Spurs are too connected and properly respected for that to slide

[Mugen]

Please tell me you twitter warriors are harassing the fuck outta Cris Carter on social media tbh. Fuck that concussed clown.

[rastaspur]

Please tell me you twitter warriors are harassing the fuck outta Cris Carter on social media tbh. Fuck that concussed clown.

I havent, but i will. Im about to go in raw on him.

Edit: i cant find him on twitter

[Mugen]

I havent, but i will. Im about to go in raw on him.

Edit: i cant find him on twitter

@criscarter80

[rastaspur]

@criscarter80

Thanks, mugen.

[offset formation]

Wow so yeah he's a pretty big part of all this. I'm guessing he stands to gain financially as well.

He's probably an investor.

[rastaspur]

Edit- cant get twitter link to work

[spurs10]

1016690193993265153 It sounds like the best move for the Spurs.


1016702759310123010 Pop is not going to hurt the Spurs by trading him for nothing. As someone noted, didn't Carter leak 'he might not even show up in Philly.' Kawhi's camp are doing themselves no favors with the LA or bust talk. LA can get him for free next year, so why gut the team. Still can't imagine losing the supermax is something they are too thrilled about. Also we have a lot of good reasons to keep him out of LA. Why would the Spurs hurt themselves to help him. No on his offering an all-star so that's that.

[dbestpro]

The truth is in the shoe. KL has been offered $5mil per year for a shoe deal. He wants $10mil like the other great players. The truth is his personality and online presence keeps him from being worth more. SO, enter uncle Fester who blames the market. BUT, even if traded there is no indication that KL will get a better shoe deal. Enter, USA basketball. Pop chooses who makes the team. KL needs to be on that team to sell his sneakers while playing in China, a huge market. Shoulda- coulda - woulda- but KLs problems would have best been solved by a PR director.

In fact, it has been said that Nick Young will sell more shoes than KL because of his personality and online presence.

[spurs10]

1016690193993265153


Uncle Shitbag and his minions are in a pickle. They have more or less played all their cards. Only two remain: (a) the race card; (b) another rehab holdout or what is essentially career suicide.

That Cris Carter segment was the first sign of them bending the knee to Pop and "begging" to get traded.

The Spurs are in no rush, and thankfully, Pop/RC have shown the stomach to let this one play out until they get what they want in trade package return or on the off chance the nephew straightens his act and come back to the fold.. This statement is Bobo approved! :bobo

[Mugen]

The most frustrating part of this whole fucking saga isn't even that Kawhi wants out. It's literally how fucking stupid Uncle Dennis & Co. are, like you couldn't actively be this fucking stupid if you tried.

[Baam]

1016702759310123010

Leaking "family stuff". These guys are shitting all over the Spurs leverage they really don't deserve to get a trade. Kawhi better commit to Philly or whoever so that they get real value. Can't be a one way street, either they do a favor back by committing to a team with assets or they get stuck for the season.

[Baam]

Bring us Fultz or Ingram or enjoy another year of vacation during your prime. It's simple.

[rasuo214]

I wonder if Kawhi even knows how big of a mess things have gotten. He doesn't watch ESPN or any of that stuff, safe to assume he also avoids sports websites/articles, doesn't use social media etc.

[benefactor]

The most frustrating part of this whole fucking saga isn't even that Kawhi wants out. It's literally how fucking stupid Uncle Dennis & Co. are, like you couldn't actively be this fucking stupid if you tried.
https://media1.tenor.com/images/38d21a9e578dc53fa948908e199cf1cb/tenor.gif

[Spurs da champs]

Bring us Fultz or Ingram or enjoy another year of vacation during your prime. It's simple.

[daslicer]

Uncle Dennis and his team is a bunch of amateurs. They remind me of Mark Wahlberg's character from the movie Pain and Gain.

LDlb1BxbKXA

[spurraider21]

Im at least glad Carter mentioned that Pop was very honest with Kawhi that he will try to accommodate him but it can’t be at the expense of SA. So if Kawhi is not going to put pressure on LA to make a competitive offer then it’s on LA for not stepping up knowing they would trade him there for something solid.
:tu this is the important part. accommodate if possible? i mean it sucks, but fine.

but they're not going to bend over and take a shitty deal just to make him happy. as long as they hold firm on that, i'm good. and as much as people think the lakers are going to take their time and wait till free agency, lebron will be turning 34 in december. he's not going to want to chill in mediocrity, i would think. could be a lot of pressure on them to make a splash during the season if they're not near the top of the west

[BatManu20]

Shams: Spurs are re-signing Bryn Forbes

[MoSpur02]

Per Shams, Forbes is coming back

[DPG21920]

:tu this is the important part. accommodate if possible? i mean it sucks, but fine.

but they're not going to bend over and take a shitty deal just to make him happy. as long as they hold firm on that, i'm good. and as much as people think the lakers are going to take their time and wait till free agency, lebron will be turning 34 in december. he's not going to want to chill in mediocrity, i would think. could be a lot of pressure on them to make a splash during the season if they're not near the top of the west

And not only that, I really dont think Kawhi wants to give up money if he doesn’t have to. One would think Kawhi would be not so thrilled with LA if they are really playing the “we will make you stay where you don’t want to be” game with Kawhi as leverage. That doesn’t help or matter to Kawhi. That only helps LA.

[Mugen]

Shams: Spurs are re-signing Bryn Forbes

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[Ron Swanson]

RIP SpursTalk

[MoSpur02]

Why the heck are the Spurs wasting money on Forbes??? He sucks.

[bklynspursfan]

1016739999151108096 (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1016739999151108096)

[DPG21920]

Ugh, why are we bringing back ANOTHER guard who isn’t very good and doesn’t deserve a pay raise. If it’s because Mills is being moved then ok.

But SA has Beli/Danny/Manu/Lonnie/White/Murray already along with Mills.

[monkeypunk]

Per Shams, Forbes is coming back

:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss: pctoss:pctoss

What in the fuck are PATFO smoking? Bryn seems like a good kid but he has one ability and if he can only do it in practice then wtf is he back?

:vomit::vomit::vomit::vomit::vomit::vomit::vomit:: vomit::vomit:

[Mugen]

Godfuckingdamnit if Forbes is getting a cent more than the minimum he could make

[RD2191]

:lol yeah Kawhi, come back to play for us. We have Mills, Forbes, and Pau. :lol

[rastaspur]

:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss: pctoss:pctoss

What in the fuck are PATFO smoking? Bryn seems like a good kid but he has one ability and if he can only do it in practice then wtf is he back?

:vomit::vomit::vomit::vomit::vomit::vomit::vomit:: vomit::vomit:

My guess is some top shelf wax. These guys really are high. No doubt in my mind now

[spurs10]

And not only that, I really dont think Kawhi wants to give up money if he doesn’t have to. One would think Kawhi would be not so thrilled with LA if they are really playing the “we will make you stay where you don’t want to be” game with Kawhi as leverage. That doesn’t help or matter to Kawhi. That only helps LA. Yes the 'why trade away anything when you're coming next year' is a stupid card to play. The idea of Spurs being a better organization that can pay him $80 million more, might begin to dawn on them. One would think.

[bklynspursfan]

:lol yeah Kawhi, come back to play for us. We have Mills, Forbes, and Pau. :lol

people still think that's an actual thing eh? Uncle Dennis doesn't care who we have.

[RD2191]

people still think that's an actual thing eh? Uncle Dennis doesn't care who we have.

The roster sure as shit doesn't help, that's for sure.

[Mugen]

And not only that, I really dont think Kawhi wants to give up money if he doesn’t have to. One would think Kawhi would be not so thrilled with LA if they are really playing the “we will make you stay where you don’t want to be” game with Kawhi as leverage. That doesn’t help or matter to Kawhi. That only helps LA.

Everything that you've said about the whole Kawhi saga is assuming that Uncle Dennis & the group are reasonable, rational, competent human beings....

But they're not. They're fucking retarded.

They'll turn down a supermax because they think he can make it up in endorsements. They'll let him risk a year without a long term deal. They'll let the Lakers call their client dog shit and not take offense, etc.

They are fucking clowns.

[coachmac87]

Can we let the dust settle before 90% of the forum jumps off the cliff?

Lmao

[DPG21920]

If you were going to bring back Forbes, why pay Beli? Maybe Mills is gone.

If we fast forward to next year I know TP/Danny/Manu is gone that would mean it is Beli/Lonnie/Forbes to fill that void but still.

[MoSpur02]

I hope this is a sign of Mills being moved. I don't wanna see Forbes getting anything but garbage time.

[daslicer]

Everything that you've said about the whole Kawhi saga is assuming that Uncle Dennis & the group are reasonable, rational, competent human beings....

But they're not. They're fucking retarded.

They'll turn down a supermax because they think he can make it up in endorsements. They'll let him risk a year without a long term deal. They'll let the Lakers call their client dog shit and not take offense, etc.

They are fucking clowns.

Agreed the Spurs are basically dealing with a bunch of crazy terrorists. There's that rule the US has when dealing with terrorists which is you don't negotiate with them and the same applies to Uncle Dennis' group.

[Mugen]

I'd rather pay Patty 20mil than pay Forbes $14.00 an hour tbh. Probably my most hated Spur in the last 5 years.

[timtonymanu]

I'd rather pay Patty 20mil than pay Forbes $14.00 an hour tbh. Probably my most hated Spur in the last 5 years.

[Ice009]

Why the heck are the Spurs wasting money on Forbes??? He sucks.

What a fucking joke. This fucking one signing is about to make me do a 180, and that is, maybe Kawhi is right to want out. The Spurs seem freaking clueless right about now.

[SpursDynasty85]

If we are paying him around $1.5/2M/yr what is the big deal? If people get injured or the Spurs desperately need a sub with a good stroke he can score in bunches in certain situations.

I too would like this to signify moving on from Mills but I doubt Spurs do that unless a team desperately wants him as a package for Kawhi. Mills is part of the Spurs fabric and how they operate. Our new Ginobili, Parker, and Duncan rep.

Let's hope the deal is not large.

[BatManu20]

In other news, Ronaldo's new contract making Lebron's look like child's play :wow


1016743147488137216

[ducks]

leonard deal could be more then james is he is not traded

[SpursDynasty85]

What a fucking joke. This fucking one signing is about to make me do a 180, and that is, maybe Kawhi is right to want out. The Spurs seem freaking clueless right about now.

Lol cliff jumping for Forbes. Justifying Kawhi's action with a 2 yr deal for Forbes. Lol wow.

[bklynspursfan]

I'm so fed up with this tripe. Mills is signed for 3 and 37.5M more. He had a relatively bad year by his efficiency standards last year, yet still managed to be the second leading scorer on the team. And he only takes 11% of the cap.

And, his contract is easily tradable if it comes to that. Don't believe that? See every Patty hater on this board just randomly throwing him into every trade as though it's no problem, so even they know.

The Pau deal was bad but he had done the team a solid and was rewarded. And guess what you steaming pile of pus, we are merely one year removed from being past that one for all intents and purposes. He is only guaranteed $6M after next year, which is again, a very easy contract to trade. In the interim, he will still occasionally provide solid back up minutes.

Lol @ you fools, especially the Spurhaters amongst us, thinking you know shit, let alone more than the best GM in the bidness. You know squat. Now get bent you loathsome waste of Earth space.

:clap


I agree on Mills. He signed for paltry money even after 2014 where he had tons of back-breaking three's in that Finals.
He's also easily the best locker-room guy maybe in the entire league, just an absolute character guy. He's easy to root for.

Gasol is a different figure to me. If he signed here at an earlier part of his career like Robert Horry it would be one thing.
But not only is this a guy who beat you in 2008, he went on to snub the Spurs in 2014 to chase money in Chicago. Who knows maybe he would've been a guy that put those 2015 and 2016 Spurs teams over the top.

I totally get the 3/48m contract was rewarding him for opting out last July for the Chris Paul sweepstakes. But even with that he's grossly over-paid for both his worth, contribution, and history with the Spurs.

And yes.. Agreed 100%

I'd much rather Pau be moved.. I get why he got what he did, but agreed. It was an overpay, especially with the style of play the league has transitioned to.

[monkeypunk]

If we are paying him around $1.5/2M/yr what is the big deal? If people get injured or the Spurs desperately need a sub with a good stroke he can score in bunches in certain situations.

It's a big deal if that certain situation is practice. He can't hit shit in games against other teams.

[BackHome]

If we bring Forbes back I am going to have to get back on the sauce. Man he sucks so. Damn he sucks so bad on defense and he is shorter then Mills why??? Why???

[SpursDynasty85]

It's a big deal if that certain situation is practice. He can't hit shit in games against other teams.

Based on what? He had the highest 3 pt % on our team last year. He has more upside than what he has shown for us so far, mainly because of our dysfunctional pg play and SF play last year. Just saying for the money, corporate knowledge, and shooting ability Spurs could do far worse right now.

[BackHome]

What upside he is not going to get taller or faster??

[SpursDynasty85]

What upside he is not going to get taller or faster??

The upside is that the team chemistry will give more open shots to Bryn. When open he is a knockdown shooter. Not a bad thing to have on the bench. He is one guy on a 15 man roster and going to make less than most.

[sasaint]

Everything that you've said about the whole Kawhi saga is assuming that Uncle Dennis & the group are reasonable, rational, competent human beings....

But they're not. They're fucking retarded.

They'll turn down a supermax because they think he can make it up in endorsements. They'll let him risk a year without a long term deal. They'll let the Lakers call their client dog shit and not take offense, etc.

They are fucking clowns.

Since the fat lady hasn't sung yet, it's hard to tell how much grease paint they're wearing.

Hard to imagine they are $80MM clowns, though.

[TimDunkem]

The upside is that the team chemistry will give more open shots to Bryn. When open he is a knockdown shooter.

No he isn't. That's why he fucking sucks. :lol

[ducks]

fuck it trade leonard to thunder help sam out
spurs get melo and can start over

[LkrFan]

fuck it trade leonard to thunder help sam out
spurs get melo and can start over

:lol

[tholdren]

fuck it trade leonard to thunder help sam out
spurs get melo and can start over

Carmelo is worse than anderson. Always has been. Media hyped and you all fell for it

[Mugen]

Uncle Dennis could get hit by a ice cream truck and Kawhi could sign an extension for the minimum and the offseason would still be a loss because of fucking Bryn come back.

[ducks]

Carmelo is worse than anderson. Always has been. Media hyped and you all fell for it

I do not want melo
it would be funny for the media to make thunder small market team with westbrook,george and leonard together though

[TheGreatYacht]

I do not want melo
it would be funny for the media to make thunder small market team with westbrook,george and leonard together though
Barry Obama

[BatManu20]

1016745004990164998

[ducks]

Barry Obama

https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.bXcTi3hXaQw4gDYWQc8EDQHaFE&pid=Api

[spursistan]

:lol Impact sports is one football agent working out of the trunk of his car, and Uncle Dennis and Moms on the payroll. I guarantee you that PATFO aren’t losing any sleep over their next move.
:lol

[DPG21920]

Can someone do me a favor, please? The search feature is not working for me.

Did the “rumor/report” regarding Pop telling Kawhi they had something lined up stem solely from Jabari’s tweets or was there another report that referenced that?

[ducks]

:lol

plus mom gets 3 million house in sa

[insomniac00]

You guys saying no deal is better than a bad deal are crazy. As long as the deal doesn't saddle you with bad contracts, something is better than nothing. Everyone thought the Bulls got fleeced in the Jimmy Butler deal, but they were able to get Markkanen who now looks like a guy they can build around. (not to mention LaVine if he comes back strong)

Boston wants to do a picks-heavy deal. Not saying they're necessarily the team to do a deal with, but even that at least gives you more chances to strike gold on your next franchise player. Why be stubborn and take nothing just to make a point nobody is going to remember in the long run?

[HI-FI]

Shams: Spurs are re-signing Bryn Forbes
:lol I knew this was gonna happen. Still, :pctoss

[SpursDynasty85]

Can anyone tell me why LA Clippers assets are so much worse than Philly's? Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jerome Robinson are nice sized gaurds and young. This past draft was impressive and deep. They have some decent forwards and defensive stoppers in Tobias Harris, Montrez Harrel, Sam Dekker, Avery Bradley, and Patrick Beverly. They also have Marcin Gortat. There are a lot of possibilities there including trading away Mills, Dejounte, Gasol along with Kawhi for a combination of players and a draft pick. Overall this might not be as high as what the Spurs are asking for but this could be the better play of what is eventually offered by other teams. It just behooves me to think Clippers gave up or Spurs aren't even considering Clippers since no rumors have surfaced since draft night.

[r0drig0lac]

Uncle Dennis could get hit by a ice cream truck and Kawhi could sign an extension for the minimum and the offseason would still be a loss because of fucking Bryn come back.

haha winner

[TD 21]

According to Pompey (76ers beat), the Spurs asking price is Saric, Covington and 3 1sts, while the 76ers offer is the oft mentioned (Saric, Covington, Heat '21 1st) and they're prepared to walk away if there's no capitulation.

It's not Wojnarowski or Charania, but I believe it. If true, I don't know whose more ignorant, the 76ers for having the audacity to think they could get away with not offering a player perceived to have star upside or the
Spurs for being willing to make a trade in the absence of that.

[Hoops Czar]

According to Pompey (76ers beat), the Spurs asking price is Saric, Covington and 3 1sts, while the 76ers offer is the oft mentioned (Saric, Covington, Heat '21 1st) and they're prepared to walk away if there's no capitulation.

It's not Wojnarowski or Charania, but I believe it. If true, I don't know whose more ignorant, the 76ers for having the audacity to think they could get away with not offering a player perceived to have star upside or the
Spurs for being willing to make a trade in the absence of that.

The Spurs definitely.

[RD2191]

According to Pompey (76ers beat), the Spurs asking price is Saric, Covington and 3 1sts, while the 76ers offer is the oft mentioned (Saric, Covington, Heat '21 1st) and they're prepared to walk away if there's no capitulation.

It's not Wojnarowski or Charania, but I believe it. If true, I don't know whose more ignorant, the 76ers for having the audacity to think they could get away with not offering a player perceived to have star upside or the
Spurs for being willing to make a trade in the absence of that.

Isn't Philly technically just Brett Brown? What a piece of shit tbh. Owes a good chunk of his career to the Spurs and he can't even do us a solid? Fuck that guy.

[insomniac00]

According to Pompey (76ers beat), the Spurs asking price is Saric, Covington and 3 1sts, while the 76ers offer is the oft mentioned (Saric, Covington, Heat '21 1st) and they're prepared to walk away if there's no capitulation.

It's not Wojnarowski or Charania, but I believe it. If true, I don't know whose more ignorant, the 76ers for having the audacity to think they could get away with not offering a player perceived to have star upside or the
Spurs for being willing to make a trade in the absence of that.


You don't give up the farm for a guy who wants to live on the other side of the country and has shown he's willing to screw over his current team to get there. There's only been a rumor that he MIGHT re-sign in Philly. That's pretty thin. Why mess up your rebuild to gamble on that? The Spurs have very little leverage in this situation. Whatever they get is going to feel disappointing but it is what it is.

[TD 21]

Isn't Philly technically just Brett Brown? What a piece of shit tbh. Owes a good chunk of his career to the Spurs and he can't even do us a solid? Fuck that guy.

Exactly. I don't even view it as doing them a solid (you don't trade a recent 1st overall pick because of that), it's just being logical and reasonable.



You don't give up the farm for a guy who wants to live on the other side of the country and has shown he's willing to screw over his current team to get there. There's only been a rumor that he MIGHT re-sign in Philly. That's pretty thin. Why mess up your rebuild to gamble on that? The Spurs have very little leverage in this situation. Whatever they get is going to feel disappointing but it is what it is.

The farm? They'd still have Embiid, Simmons, Saric, piles of somewhat intriguing young players and picks and oodles of cap space to pursue Irving, Walker, Harris, Bledsoe and Butler, if Leonard left.

Who cares where he wants to live almost a year out from free agency? Not long ago, he was content living here. On paper, the 76ers are an excellent fit for him and situation in general, plus it's a ballyhooed city. He could easily pull a George a year from now.

[LkrFan]

1016799156210425857

:corn:

[Mugen]

:lol good luck winning a staring match with that autistic fuck

[spursistan]

1016752848762212354

Yep, the issue is this mute fuck's personality-- or lack thereof-- not the market size of his team.

I think Uncle Dickhead will be in for rude awakening when he realize that his nephew is simply not a marketable athlete..(:lol 4 tweets in 4 years in today's social media-dominated NBA)

[baseline bum]

The Spurs have very little leverage in this situation. Whatever they get is going to feel disappointing but it is what it is.

If the Spurs get nothing and Leonard retires for the year I wouldn't be disappointed.

[Fusternino]

Can anyone tell me why LA Clippers assets are so much worse than Philly's? Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jerome Robinson are nice sized gaurds and young. This past draft was impressive and deep. They have some decent forwards and defensive stoppers in Tobias Harris, Montrez Harrel, Sam Dekker, Avery Bradley, and Patrick Beverly. They also have Marcin Gortat. There are a lot of possibilities there including trading away Mills, Dejounte, Gasol along with Kawhi for a combination of players and a draft pick. Overall this might not be as high as what the Spurs are asking for but this could be the better play of what is eventually offered by other teams. It just behooves me to think Clippers gave up or Spurs aren't even considering Clippers since no rumors have surfaced since draft night.

There is no substance to their assets being worse than even the Lakers-that's just the media machine talking. I think Kawhi and Mills for Harris, Robinson, Harrell S&T, and possibly both of their 2021 and 2023 first round picks would be a great trade especially if Tobias agrees to resign with us. I'm sick of being told Ingram, Kuzma, and Hart would be so much better than this.

[MoSpur02]

Anyway a three team trade could happen to send both Butler and Kyrie to the Spurs? I know, I know. I'm dreaming.

[ducks]

1016799156210425857

:corn:

that is why the usa camps lots will be there
leonard be a fool not to let the media watch

[spursistan]

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League sources say the Lakers are still reluctant to include a toothpick in a trade package for Kawhi Leonard.

12:11 PM - 10 Jul 2018

[FvckMavs]

Anyway a three team trade could happen to send both Butler and Kyrie to the Spurs? I know, I know. I'm dreaming.

Nephew to BOS, Picks+fillers to MN, Butler and Kyrie to the Spurs. Done deal...

[DPG21920]

I’ve been telling people that Kawhi needs to post a video...it’s the most obvious thing in the world.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Can someone do me a favor, please? The search feature is not working for me.

Did the “rumor/report” regarding Pop telling Kawhi they had something lined up stem solely from Jabari’s tweets or was there another report that referenced that?

It's from this I believe, no?

1016702759310123010

[TheGreatYacht]

I wonder how Kawhi feels about finishing off his late-20's playing next to MVPau, MVPatty, B3rtans, Ferrari, and Forbe$ bay bay!

[DPG21920]

It's from this I believe, no?

1016702759310123010

Nope - talking about Pop saying if Kawhi stayed with the Spurs they had something lined up to bring in more help.

[apalisoc_9]

I wonder how Kawhi feels about finishing off his late-20's playing next to MVPau, MVPatty, B3rtans, Ferrari, and Forbe$ bay bay!

Best organization

https://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/7/9e941c5c8783e5c8e50528a4be836c9d.png?t=1495196188

[Spurs da champs]

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League sources say the Lakers are still reluctant to include a toothpick in a trade package for Kawhi Leonard.

12:11 PM - 10 Jul 2018

I thought somebody said he was bulking up. :lol

[FireMicoHalili]

Best organization

https://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/7/9e941c5c8783e5c8e50528a4be836c9d.png?t=1495196188
This you brah?

http://www.bigsoccer.com/members/pinoymarauder.124255/
http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/i-nearly-flunked-out-of-pharmacy.1065264/

Thought I recognized that tone from somewhere. Pinoy from Canada? Like your profile here suggests? :lol And Lakers Ground thinks you’re credible :lol

[MoSpur02]

Nephew to BOS, Picks+fillers to MN, Butler and Kyrie to the Spurs. Done deal...

I like it

[MoSpur02]

This you brah?

http://www.bigsoccer.com/members/pinoymarauder.124255/
http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/i-nearly-flunked-out-of-pharmacy.1065264/

Thought I recognized that tone from somewhere. Pinoy from Canada? Like your profile here suggests? :lol And Lakers Ground thinks you’re credible :lol

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[apalisoc_9]

So long as people think I'm not eric cyeranso i'm cool with whoever people think I am

[ducks]

I wonder how Kawhi feels about finishing off his late-20's playing next to MVPau, MVPatty, B3rtans, Ferrari, and Forbe$ bay bay!

he wanted out before the signed mills and Gasol to the extensions

[FireMicoHalili]

So long as people think I'm not eric cyeranso i'm cool with whoever people think I am
How many days out west on a plane did you spend on the way from Manila to Canada? Asking for a friend

[apalisoc_9]

he wanted out before the signed mills and Gasol to the extensions

https://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/7/9e941c5c8783e5c8e50528a4be836c9d.png?t=1495196188

[FireMicoHalili]

:lmao:lmao:lmao
Check out the replies on the thread where he flunked college units. It says Apalisoc_9 :lol I don’t know how people got strung along by this guy’s “done deal” comments, especially the Laker fans

[BD24]

This you brah?

http://www.bigsoccer.com/members/pinoymarauder.124255/
http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/i-nearly-flunked-out-of-pharmacy.1065264/

Thought I recognized that tone from somewhere. Pinoy from Canada? Like your profile here suggests? :lol And Lakers Ground thinks you’re credible :lol
What a fucking faggot :lol
Pinoy Marauder :lol

[Mugen]

This you brah?

http://www.bigsoccer.com/members/pinoymarauder.124255/
http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/i-nearly-flunked-out-of-pharmacy.1065264/

Thought I recognized that tone from somewhere. Pinoy from Canada? Like your profile here suggests? :lol And Lakers Ground thinks you’re credible :lol

:lol

[Mugen]

Check out the replies on the thread where he flunked college units. It says Apalisoc_9 :lol I don’t know how people got strung along by this guy’s “done deal” comments, especially the Laker fans

:lmao

[Mugen]

What a fucking faggot :lol
Pinoy Marauder :lol

:rollin

[Mugen]

I bet you marauded your way into a 80yo's asshole you murse faggot :lol

[tim_duncan_fan]

1016752848762212354

Yep, the issue is this mute fuck's personality-- or lack thereof-- not the market size of his team.

I think Uncle Dickhead will be in for rude awakening when he realize that his nephew is simply not a marketable athlete..(:lol 4 tweets in 4 years in today's social media-dominated NBA)

It's because this organization doesn't let players tweet.

So controlling!

[Ron Swanson]

This you brah?

http://www.bigsoccer.com/members/pinoymarauder.124255/
http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/i-nearly-flunked-out-of-pharmacy.1065264/

Thought I recognized that tone from somewhere. Pinoy from Canada? Like your profile here suggests? :lol And Lakers Ground thinks you’re credible :lol


https://media.giphy.com/media/dWEk3w1Uo97qw/giphy.gif

[TheDoctor]

This you brah?

http://www.bigsoccer.com/members/pinoymarauder.124255/
http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/i-nearly-flunked-out-of-pharmacy.1065264/

Thought I recognized that tone from somewhere. Pinoy from Canada? Like your profile here suggests? :lol And Lakers Ground thinks you’re credible :lol
:lol

Pinoy Marauder's pharmacy studies definitely were not a done deal.

[TheDoctor]

I bet you marauded your way into a 80yo's asshole you murse faggot :lol
The good thing about Pinoys is that no matter the age, 7 or 80 they all look the same. I think they even start to grow a moustache by 5 tbh.

[FireMicoHalili]

:lol

Pinoy Marauder's pharmacy studies definitely were not a done deal.
Ctrl + f for apalisoc_9. Click the name and it leads you to PinoyMarauder. Insider information my ass :lol gets “leaks” on Leonard but can’t clean up his digital footprints

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Nope - talking about Pop saying if Kawhi stayed with the Spurs they had something lined up to bring in more help.

Oh I missed that,would be amazing if it’s true

[BD24]

Pretty sure the faggot had a similar thread to this on here. Pinoy Marauder trying to get that internet money doe

http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/people-that-earn-money-in-the-internet.1565384/

Really concerned about his rep on that site as well. Attention whore no matter where the faggot goes

http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/reps.952494/
http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/reps.1077231/

Why did you change your name pinoy marauder?

[loveforthegame]

Nope - talking about Pop saying if Kawhi stayed with the Spurs they had something lined up to bring in more help.

David Aldridge reported it. That in a meeting Pop told Leonard if he committed to the team long term the Spurs would acquire an all-star. Leonard said no. DA speculated it was for Kemba Walker.

[FireMicoHalili]

Pretty sure the faggot had a similar thread to this on here. Pinoy Marauder trying to get that internet money doe

http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/people-that-earn-money-in-the-internet.1565384/

Really concerned about his rep on that site as well. Attention whore no matter where the faggot goes

http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/reps.952494/
http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/reps.1077231/

Why did you change your name pinoy marauder?
Guy goes around and talks like he has cred but is actually a sad, jobless Filipino enjoying unemployment as a grade A troll :lol zero cred, case closed, done deal

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Damn those new Sketchers Shape Ups are pretty sick, my Aunt would love those.

[NASpurs]

:lol @ this thread turning into a witch hunt

[coachmac87]

Ctrl + f for apalisoc_9. Click the name and it leads you to PinoyMarauder. Insider information my ass :lol gets “leaks” on Leonard but can’t clean up his digital footprints

Him and his crew shouldn’t post anymore...

[BD24]

Hey Kori can we get a name change for Apa, he sure would appreciate it. Let him be the Piony Marauder on Spurstalk as well tbh.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Check out the replies on the thread where he flunked college units. It says Apalisoc_9 :lol I don’t know how people got strung along by this guy’s “done deal” comments, especially the Laker fans

LOL :lol LOL :lol

What a filipino faggot! Oh shit this is gold

[Strategic]

This you brah?

http://www.bigsoccer.com/members/pinoymarauder.124255/
http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/i-nearly-flunked-out-of-pharmacy.1065264/

Thought I recognized that tone from somewhere. Pinoy from Canada? Like your profile here suggests? :lol And Lakers Ground thinks you’re credible :lol :lol

[NickiRasgo]

Bisto eh, parang kay Lakaluva. :lol Sorry for my language. :lol

[Spur|n|Austin]

apalisoc_9


8 more Units of failure and I'm out. Currently I stopped My Pharmacy studies to work as a call center agent, this is because we plan on moving to Canada by December.

Anyways, I'm to worried about my future right now. My parents who had a lot of expectations for me has no idea that i did badly last semester and to be honest i don't know if should even let them know about it. I failed a total of 6 Subject already the past 4 semester's and the only semester that i actually passed every subject was on the second one. I don't know if i should blame it on my age since i had to live a Virtually independent life at an early age of 16 and the fact that my parents are Living in a different country,

I'm not academically weak as evidence of me doing great on my second semester, but Pharmacy is a course that requires me to be a nerdhttp://www.bigsoccer.com/styles/default/xenforo/clear.png or else I would continually fail important subjects.

I took my Community Pharmacy internship last month and I tell you it felt great. It kinda feels weird since i have absolutely no interest in the course whatsoever.

I was Wondering if any of you could give me any advices on what i should do? Also, how would this affect me if i plan on continuing my studies in Canada? I'm kinda worried since our curriculum only has fours years of highschool, they might make take 11 and tweleve againhttp://www.bigsoccer.com/styles/default/xenforo/clear.png

I already Finnised over 81 units but dont really know id i should continue on with it. I hope this Number of units would be enough to cover for grade's Eleven and tweleve there, I really don't mind taking collage all over again since im only 18.

Hope everything has turned around for you little fella :cry

[ironmike1993]

just send his ass to the Lakers if there's a decent offer.

There will be no Superteam in LA. LeBron will turn 34 later this year and wont be playing in the garbage East where he was able to coast for most of the season.

An injury proan Kawhi, old LeBron and scrub Lonzo wont be enough to challenge the Warriors.

[FireMicoHalili]

Bisto eh, parang kay Lakaluva. :lol Sorry for my language. :lol
:bobo

[FireMicoHalili]

:lol
I had to check whether this guy had any cred. Last name looks very Filipino to me so a quick google search was easy. All just confirms the guy knows nothing but was masterful at pretending he does. Fun while it lasted, really.

[MoSpur02]

Supposedly Spurs are still negotiating with Boston. Also keeping tabs on Toronto. I'm assuming now that the Spurs prefer to deal with Boston.

[Strategic]

I had to check whether this guy had any cred. Last name looks very Filipino to me so a quick google search was easy. All just confirms the guy knows nothing but was masterful at pretending he does. Fun while it lasted, really. Yes he has an anwser for everything, which pretty much proves he knows very little.

[rastaspur]

apalisoc_9



Hope everything has turned around for you little fella :cry

Lol. I took a shit yesterday that had a better academic history than apo. This is great. Excellent investigative skills.

[TheGreatYacht]

he wanted out before the signed mills and Gasol to the extensionsCorey Booker

[Spur|n|Austin]

Supposedly Spurs are still negotiating with Boston. Also keeping tabs on Toronto. I'm assuming now that the Spurs prefer to deal with Boston.

Links? Not doubting just curious so I can look into it more.

[ducks]

Corey Booker

will not be president any time soon

[lilbthebasedgod]

Guy goes around and talks like he has cred but is actually a sad, jobless Filipino enjoying unemployment as a grade A troll :lol zero cred, case closed, done deal
From that thread apparently not grade A actually lmbo.

[spurraider21]

Check out the replies on the thread where he flunked college units. It says Apalisoc_9 :lol I don’t know how people got strung along by this guy’s “done deal” comments, especially the Laker fans
:lmao

[tbdog]

This situation is so poorly handled, it's hard to know where to start. Reading between the lines of all these leaks, this is what's happening.

1. Leonard's group has clearly told Lakers he will sign with them next season. This is tampering, but it happens.
2. Lakers have clearly pulled Ingram off the table.
3. Spurs want far more than what teams are offering, including the Lakers.
4. Leonard's group clearly does not want Leonard to report to SA at training camp. So they;
a) Leaked that Leonard does not want to play for Lebron so the Clippers can up their offer, and hence Lakers would too.
b) Leaked that Leonard would consider signing with other teams in hopes they will up their offer which will up Lakers offer. However, teams cannot trust Leonard's agency and it's clear Leonard wants to be a Laker
5) Leonard will highly unlikely report to team USA to avoid Pop.

[BackHome]

lol i think the list should probably be 1 - 20 but i am to lazy to finish it..:toast

[DPG21920]

David Aldridge reported it. That in a meeting Pop told Leonard if he committed to the team long term the Spurs would acquire an all-star. Leonard said no. DA speculated it was for Kemba Walker.

Thanks - does anyone have a link by chance?

[Trill Clinton]

we need a separate thread for the exposalhttp://i67.tinypic.com/fyz6eh.jpg

[Fusternino]

Could've used the full BAE to get Mbah a Moute . . . we need guys who can defend the 3/4 . . . not more guards.

[BatManu20]

Just to mix in some positive vibes with all the wrist-cutting.

1016812633087991808

[dabom]

RC is a fucking amazing GM. He knows his budget for the next 4 years easy. Ya dumb fucks. :lol

[Joseph Kony]

lmao oh shit i just saw that pinoy marauder stuff :lmao :lmao wtf

[Fusternino]

Just to mix in some positive vibes with all the wrist-cutting.

1016812633087991808

Because we just drafted a guard and used the majority of the MLE on guard that's bigger and moves better without the ball than Forbes? We already had 8 guards last year . . .

I would've preferred the 4/20 Bertans deal and to match Kyle's offer. Not much grief from me there.

We do have the full BAE left but I'm not finding anyone to spend it on. Tarik Black (?) . . . Trevor Booker (?) . . . someone who can guard the 3/4 as good as Kyle.

[loveforthegame]

Thanks - does anyone have a link by chance?

Sorry couldn’t find a link.

Here’s the original post. Page 420/post # 12584


per reddit:

(Aldridge) "Pop told Kawhi during their meeting in June that they would acquire another All Star if he committed to them long term and that they would win the West this upcoming season."

David Aldridge reporting on nba tv. Speculated that kemba walker is the all star they would acquire. Said Kawhi is still not interested in staying with team, but Spurs are still hopeful that could change.

[Fusternino]

So, we're using the rest of the MLE to sign Metu for 4 years? Let's hope so . . .

[Seventyniner]

lmao oh shit i just saw that pinoy marauder stuff :lmao :lmao wtf

This is approaching Naruto level stuff from downstairs. Dat microwave gun b overflowin wit popcorn.

[BlackSilver]

Didn't see this posted...apologies if duplicate.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2785208-why-hasnt-kawhi-leonard-been-traded-yet
Why Hasn't Kawhi Leonard Been Traded Yet?Ric Bucher (http://bleacherreport.com/users/3199091)July 10, 2018


For someone who rarely speaks, San Antonio Spurs (http://bleacherreport.com/san-antonio-spurs) forward Kawhi Leonard has an awful lot of people in the NBA (http://bleacherreport.com/nba) who would love to talk to him. The fact that they haven't, or can't, is one of several reasons why league executives said a deal that fulfills his wish (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2781298-kawhi-leonard-reportedly-feels-betrayed-by-spurs-amid-trade-desire) of not being in San Antonio could take until training camp or even into the season to be consummated.
"Teams are going up and around every way they can to find out where he's training, what he's doing," said one Eastern Conference general manager who counts his team among the interested. "There's so much we just don't know."
The list of questions is extensive. After playing only nine games last season—culminating in a 28-minute stint January 13—because of an unspecified right quad injury, is Leonard healthy? In light of rumors that he wants to play in Los Angeles because it's close to where he grew up in Riverside, how resolute is he about only re-signing with an L.A.-based team when his contract expires next summer? And, finally, how much influence does Leonard's uncle and de facto business manager, Dennis Robertson, have on his thinking?
Nearly half a dozen GMs told Bleacher Report during the first weekend of the Las Vegas Summer League that they would trade for Leonard even without a guarantee he'll stay beyond next season. There is, after all, precedent for players being traded to a team and vowing they won't stay before changing their minds a year later. Paul George (http://bleacherreport.com/paul-george) just did it by re-upping in Oklahoma City after stating his dream was to play for the Lakers (http://bleacherreport.com/los-angeles-lakers), his childhood team. Chris Webber initially resented being traded by the Washington Wizards (http://bleacherreport.com/washington-wizards) to the Sacramento Kings (http://bleacherreport.com/sacramento-kings) but spurned free agency to sign a seven-year, $122.7 million deal to stay.
"I wouldn't say we're all scared to death to make a deal because there's no chance he'll re-sign [with a team somewhere other than L.A.]," said the Eastern Conference GM. "PG did. C-Webb did."
The first catch, though, is that Leonard's agent, Mitch Frankel, has no other significant clients and only has been representing Leonard the last couple of years. Hence, he has no established trust with NBA GMs, the kind of trust that allows a team to ask Frankel what its chance would be to keep Leonard long-term and believe whatever he might say is a true reflection of his client's feelings.




Another issue is what teams are willing to offer San Antonio without any clear sense of their ability to have him beyond next season. Several GMs said they would deal a quality young player and a future first-round pick even with the prospect that Leonard was just a one-year rental.
And then there is the fact that the Spurs have yet to concede they have to trade Leonard and remain hopeful they can convince him to accept their offer of a supermax contract worth $219 million over five years, according to league sources. Given San Antonio's stance, opposing teams are reluctant to name players they'd be willing to trade and risk having those names getting out into the public, potentially injuring the team's relationship with those players if a deal is never done.
Several GMs noted that the Spurs' willingness to let point guard Tony Parker (http://bleacherreport.com/tony-parker) leave in free agency could be seen as an olive branch of sorts to Leonard. Parker, who signed a two-year deal with the Charlotte Hornets (http://bleacherreport.com/charlotte-hornets) after 17 seasons with the Spurs, was reportedly the most vocally accusatory in a late-season players-only meeting in which Leonard had the severity of his injury questioned.
"They're trying to give the impression that they don't have to trade Kawhi," said one Western Conference GM, who stated he also would make an offer for Leonard if he knew more about his condition and mindset. "The Spurs only like to deal when they have tremendous leverage," he added. "Now they don't have it, and they're trying to create it."
That is why waiting until after training camp opens to move Leonard makes sense, presuming he'll take part in their exhibition schedule.
"It seems like every other player is putting out a video on social media of them working out," said the Eastern Conference GM. "If Kawhi did one, he'd instantly get 35,000 hits, and half of them would be from NBA GMs. How can you make a deal or even an offer without knowing if he can play? He's got to be seen. If he came out and played in preseason and looked good, you'd definitely see teams trying harder to get him."




That gives an edge to several squads in the Eastern Conference. Toronto Raptors GM Masai Ujiri has close ties with Spurs GM R.C. Buford, thanks to a common interest in and support of basketball development in Africa, potentially making Ujiri privy to more information or insight than other general managers. The 76ers (http://bleacherreport.com/philadelphia-76ers) have a similar advantage with former Spurs assistant Brett Brown as their head coach and one of their team doctors, based in New York (http://bleacherreport.com/new-york-knicks), having been Leonard's personal choice to oversee his quad treatment. Part of the discord between Leonard and the Spurs was the team's initial reluctance to get second opinions, league sources said.
Where and when is all this resolved? It's a good question. When it comes to Kawhi, one of many.

Ric Bucher covers the NBA for Bleacher Report. Follow him on Twitter: @RicBucher (https://twitter.com/RicBucher?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7 Ctwgr%5Eauthor).

[ducks]

Because we just drafted a guard and used the majority of the MLE on guard that's bigger and moves better without the ball than Forbes? We already had 8 guards last year . . .

I would've preferred the 4/20 Bertans deal and to match Kyle's offer. Not much grief from me there.

We do have the full BAE left but I'm not finding anyone to spend it on. Tarik Black (?) . . . Trevor Booker (?) . . . someone who can guard the 3/4 as good as Kyle.if we use bird rights we still have the mle right ?

[Fusternino]

if we use bird rights we still have the mle right ?

I think we have early Bird Rights for Forbes which we can use so yes the rest of the MLE stays untouched for now. BAE is still available too and we only are hard-capped at the apron, not the tax line itself. Although I'm not sure ownership is willing to go over the tax line . . .

[marinoman]

Pinoy Marauder :rollin:rollin

[Vic Petro]

The first catch, though, is that Leonard's agent, Mitch Frankel, has no other significant clients and only has been representing Leonard the last couple of years. Hence, he has no established trust with NBA GMs, the kind of trust that allows a team to ask Frankel what its chance would be to keep Leonard long-term and believe whatever he might say is a true reflection of his client's feelings.

This directly corroborates the report of Michael Wright, who a certain Marauder has been working hard to discredit.

[Slippy]

Didn't see this posted...apologies if duplicate.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2785208-why-hasnt-kawhi-leonard-been-traded-yet
Why Hasn't Kawhi Leonard Been Traded Yet?Ric Bucher (http://bleacherreport.com/users/3199091)July 10, 2018



Another issue is what teams are willing to offer San Antonio without any clear sense of their ability to have him beyond next season. Several GMs said they would deal a quality young player and a future first-round pick even with the prospect that Leonard was just a one-year rental.
And then there is the fact that the Spurs have yet to concede they have to trade Leonard and remain hopeful they can convince him to accept their offer of a supermax contract worth $219 million over five years, according to league sources. Given San Antonio's stance, opposing teams are reluctant to name players they'd be willing to trade and risk having those names getting out into the public, potentially injuring the team's relationship with those players if a deal is never done.
Several GMs noted that the Spurs' willingness to let point guard Tony Parker (http://bleacherreport.com/tony-parker) leave in free agency could be seen as an olive branch of sorts to Leonard. Parker, who signed a two-year deal with the Charlotte Hornets (http://bleacherreport.com/charlotte-hornets) after 17 seasons with the Spurs, was reportedly the most vocally accusatory in a late-season players-only meeting in which Leonard had the severity of his injury questioned.
"They're trying to give the impression that they don't have to trade Kawhi," said one Western Conference GM, who stated he also would make an offer for Leonard if he knew more about his condition and mindset. "The Spurs only like to deal when they have tremendous leverage," he added. "Now they don't have it, and they're trying to create it."
That is why waiting until after training camp opens to move Leonard makes sense, presuming he'll take part in their exhibition schedule.
"It seems like every other player is putting out a video on social media of them working out," said the Eastern Conference GM. "If Kawhi did one, he'd instantly get 35,000 hits, and half of them would be from NBA GMs. How can you make a deal or even an offer without knowing if he can play? He's got to be seen. If he came out and played in preseason and looked good, you'd definitely see teams trying harder to get him."




That gives an edge to several squads in the Eastern Conference. Toronto Raptors GM Masai Ujiri has close ties with Spurs GM R.C. Buford, thanks to a common interest in and support of basketball development in Africa, potentially making Ujiri privy to more information or insight than other general managers. The 76ers (http://bleacherreport.com/philadelphia-76ers) have a similar advantage with former Spurs assistant Brett Brown as their head coach and one of their team doctors, based in New York (http://bleacherreport.com/new-york-knicks), having been Leonard's personal choice to oversee his quad treatment. Part of the discord between Leonard and the Spurs was the team's initial reluctance to get second opinions, league sources said.
Where and when is all this resolved? It's a good question. When it comes to Kawhi, one of many.

Ric Bucher covers the NBA for Bleacher Report. Follow him on Twitter: @RicBucher (https://twitter.com/RicBucher?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7 Ctwgr%5Eauthor).


Thanks for posting. Glad to see the 1 year rental for Kawhi market is strong for obvious reasons. Like many of us have said just sit tight & wait. The only thing that I can see limiting spurs getting the best deal is Kawhis group restricting medicals to teams interested in trading? I would of thought that its illegal to restrict info on health but then again we dealing with Kawhis group here .

[johnnymoore]

Thanks for posting. Glad to see the 1 year rental for Kawhi market is strong for obvious reasons. Like many of us have said just sit tight & wait. The only thing that I can see limiting spurs getting the best deal is Kawhis group restricting medicals to teams interested in trading? I would of thought that its illegal to restrict info on health but then again we dealing with Kawhis group here .

It's illegal to SHARE health info w/o a person's permission. To the extent that the Spurs can have access is only in relation to KL's ability to show up to work, and if he claims injury, to have a medical professional evaluate whatever the injury is. That's why if the Spurs think he's jaking it, a 3rd party is brought in and, after the exam, can only give his/her opinion on whether the injury is legit, but doesn't have to share details.

[Slippy]

It's illegal to SHARE health info w/o a person's permission. To the extent that the Spurs can have access is only in relation to KL's ability to show up to work, and if he claims injury, to have a medical professional evaluate whatever the injury is. That's why if the Spurs think he's jaking it, a 3rd party is brought in and, after the exam, can only give his/her opinion on whether the injury is legit, but doesn't have to share details.


thanks.. that's good to know . So wait till training camp, see if kawhi pulls his injury crap, get that third party involved. If he doesn't then even better , let him play some exhibition games, team see hes healthy & then trade.

[DPG21920]

Sorry couldn’t find a link.

Here’s the original post. Page 420/post # 12584

Thanks!

[dbreiden83080]

Spurs really don’t give a shit about him being a whiny little bitch. They will trade him if the right offer comes their way. He is not in some strong negotiating position despite what some ass clowns in the media would lead you to believe. He can’t simply refuse to show up to training camp because he would not get paid. Don’t listen to the clowns reporting this crap. They have an agenda.

[johnnymoore]

Spurs really don’t give a shit about him being a whiny little bitch. They will trade him if the right offer comes their way. He is not in some strong negotiating position despite what some ass clowns in the media would lead you to believe. He can’t simply refuse to show up to training camp because he would not get paid. Don’t listen to the clowns reporting this crap. They have an agenda.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The National Media is out to screw the Spurs.

Back in the real world, Kawhi is in the best position. Soft tissue injuries are damned near impossible to diagnose, prove and/or disprove - that is why there are so many ambulance chasing lawyers. Worst case scenario, KL claims ankle pain, gets an arthroscope, sits out six weeks, gets the other ankle scoped, sits out six more weeks, then starts on the elbows.

This isn't the era for a team to try a power play on a prime athlete. If the Spurs want to keep him, they need to woo him and sweettalk him, not try to win a battle of wills.

You'd do better offering to let him approve every roster move or pick the next head coach. Hell, offer him non-stop fellatio from every college cheerleader in the county. But fighting him and/or trying to force him to do your will is a no-win strategy.

[dbreiden83080]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The National Media is out to screw the Spurs.

Back in the real world, Kawhi is in the best position. Soft tissue injuries are damned near impossible to diagnose, prove and/or disprove - that is why there are so many ambulance chasing lawyers. Worst case scenario, KL claims ankle pain, gets an arthroscope, sits out six weeks, gets the other ankle scoped, sits out six more weeks, then starts on the elbows.

This isn't the era for a team to try a power play on a prime athlete. If the Spurs want to keep him, they need to woo him and sweettalk him, not try to win a battle of wills.

You'd do better offering to let him approve every roster move or pick the next head coach. Hell, offer him non-stop fellatio from every college cheerleader in the county. But fighting him and/or trying to force him to do your will is a no-win strategy.

I seriously dare this motherfucker to get traded to a legendary franchise like the Philadelphia 76ers and refuse to show up for the physical. I fucking dare him. The entire league will completely turn it’s back on this piece of shit. You don’t do shit like that. So we will see what happens with this fuck.

[offset formation]

The Spurs definitely.

So in essence, what your saying is you like it up the ass?

[DAF86]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The National Media is out to screw the Spurs.

Back in the real world, Kawhi is in the best position. Soft tissue injuries are damned near impossible to diagnose, prove and/or disprove - that is why there are so many ambulance chasing lawyers. Worst case scenario, KL claims ankle pain, gets an arthroscope, sits out six weeks, gets the other ankle scoped, sits out six more weeks, then starts on the elbows.

This isn't the era for a team to try a power play on a prime athlete. If the Spurs want to keep him, they need to woo him and sweettalk him, not try to win a battle of wills.

lol son.

And what would Kawhi gain from that other than wasting two straight years of his prime and have teams around the league questioning just how valuable the guy really is?

I guess if he's really cool with the idea of losing a shit ton of money, he might try to pull that shit you fantasized. :lol

[cutewizard]

Spurs need to heed their own advice and get over themselves with this Spurs material nonsense. That was fine when they had an all-time core and about as good a chance as any team to win the championship in a given season. Now, they're like most teams, who need to do whatever they can to acquire front line talent.

I could understand not wanting to touch a Cousins, but if they don't want Fultz just because he's not Robinson, Duncan, Ginobili or Parker (who is?) or because they think they have their PG of the future in Murray, that's insane.

:flag:

[cutewizard]

Just do it Spurs

Trade kawhi

[johnnymoore]

lol son.

And what would Kawhi gain from that other than wasting two straight years of his prime and have teams around the league questioning just how valuable the guy really is?

I guess if he's really cool with the idea of losing a shit ton of money, he might be cool with that. :lol

Well, he'd get $20 million dollars for sitting on his ass this year and a max contract from a team he wants to play for next year. The article someone posted earlier said that teams are more than willing to acquire the guy - they just don't want to pony up a ton until they talk to him and/or see him play. As a free agent, he'd work out for teams, show what he could do and get his money.

You can "son" me all you want, but it won't change the reality of the situation.

[DAF86]

Well, he'd get $20 million dollars for sitting on his ass this year and a max contract from a team he wants to play for next year.

The article someone posted earlier said that teams are more than willing to acquire the guy - they just don't want to pony up a ton until they talk to him and/or see him play. As a free agent, he'd work out for teams, show what he could do and get his money.

You can "son" me all you want, but it won't change the reality of the situation.

Will he though? I'm not sure teams would be crazy at the idea of maxing out a guy that comes off a two year absence.

Not to mention that by not playing next season he will already be guaranteed to lose over 80 millions dollar for the supermax he won't be able to get.

And all that with just playing along and saying that your crazy theory is plausible and that neither the Spurs nor the league will take matters into their own hands and inforce the law on Kawhi, tbh. :lol

Look son, you can come up with all the crazy theories you want, but if there's one guy that will hurt from Kawhi not playing next season, is himself. So that won't happen, unless he trully is fucked up for good, which is not out of the question yet.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. The National Media is out to screw the Spurs.

Back in the real world, Kawhi is in the best position. Soft tissue injuries are damned near impossible to diagnose, prove and/or disprove - that is why there are so many ambulance chasing lawyers. Worst case scenario, KL claims ankle pain, gets an arthroscope, sits out six weeks, gets the other ankle scoped, sits out six more weeks, then starts on the elbows.

This isn't the era for a team to try a power play on a prime athlete. If the Spurs want to keep him, they need to woo him and sweettalk him, not try to win a battle of wills.

You'd do better offering to let him approve every roster move or pick the next head coach. Hell, offer him non-stop fellatio from every college cheerleader in the county. But fighting him and/or trying to force him to do your will is a no-win strategy.

Lol. He claimed he was 100.

Let him try that shit. He's going to be worth nothing by the time year 2 comes to an end. It will be among the most epic downfalls in NBA history. I actually hope he brings that. Cause the Spurs will already have broughten it.

Let's see him get homesteaded to the Spurs under the CBA basically for life when he tries pulling that nonsense. Then let's get discovery on the tampering that you Maginka et al did...should be good times and even better television.

Get yo popcorn.

[Twisted_Dawg]

This you brah?

http://www.bigsoccer.com/members/pinoymarauder.124255/
http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/i-nearly-flunked-out-of-pharmacy.1065264/

Thought I recognized that tone from somewhere. Pinoy from Canada? Like your profile here suggests? :lol And Lakers Ground thinks you’re credible :lol

Your work here rivals Koolaid Man's epic thread and discovery years ago taking down Avante and his ramblings on a different site about pedo urges. :toast

[Slippy]

If theres any truth to Carters comments about kawhi not showing up if traded to a non preferred team . That in itself gives the spurs the upperhand. It illustrates how desperate his group is to avoid the free agency route. Spurs should assume it wont happen. The will also know by waiting for training camp or closer to the trade deadline, their leverage will only increase because Kawhi's team will be forced to re-assess their demands and leave the threats at the door.

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Ctrl + f for apalisoc_9. Click the name and it leads you to PinoyMarauder. Insider information my ass :lol gets “leaks” on Leonard but can’t clean up his digital footprints

Damn. Done. Deal. :lol

Baka gumawa na ng bagong account yan. Start over.

[johnnymoore]

Lol. He claimed he was 100.

Let him try that shit. He's going to be worth nothing by the time year 2 comes to an end. It will be among the most epic downfalls in NBA history. I actually hope he brings that. Cause the Spurs will already have broughten it.

Let's see him get homesteaded to the Spurs under the CBA basically for life when he tries pulling that nonsense. Then let's get discovery on the tampering that you Maginka et al did...should be good times and even better television.

Get yo popcorn.

I will! As a Lakerfan, I'll be greatly amused at the prospect of the "model franchise Spurs" going through a season-long shit storm. Watching the roster full of G-Leaguers and no-names bumble through the season in San Antonio while their franchise player frets and fumes in a suit on the sidelines will be hilarious. And then, watching the angst, mania & false bravado on this board next July when Kawhi walks for nothing and joins LeBron will be absolutely delicious!


Of course, that's assuming PATFO have completely lost their minds. Otherwise, Kawhi will be gone before training camp ends and San Antonio will have some nice new picks and a decent young player.

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I will! As a Lakerfan, I'll be greatly amused at the prospect of the "model franchise Spurs" going through a season-long shit storm. Watching the roster full of G-Leaguers and no-names bumble through the season in San Antonio while their franchise player frets and fumes in a suit on the sidelines will be hilarious. And then, watching the angst, mania & false bravado on this board next July when Kawhi walks for nothing and joins LeBron will be absolutely delicious!


Of course, that's assuming PATFO have completely lost their minds. Otherwise, Kawhi will be gone before training camp ends and San Antonio will have some nice new picks and a decent young player.

How is it false bravado?

Everyone here knows we're (already) only likely getting pennies on the dollar for Kawhi's value. So getting no return at all is not substantively worse, especially when a lesson is sent to unscrupulous actors about the manner in which they dogged the team and attempted to power play their way out.

Assuming this even plays out and he is not traded before the season, if he starts creating a toxic environment again next year, he'll be sent home and told he's not part of their future plans...sort of the way you guys handled Deng.

[picnroll]

How is it false bravado?

Everyone here knows we're (already) only likely getting pennies on the dollar for Kawhi's value. So getting no return at all is not substantively worse, especially when a lesson is sent to unscrupulous actors about the manner in which they dogged the team and attempted to power play their way out.

Assuming this even plays out and is not traded before the season, if he starts creating a toxic environment, he'll be sent home and told he's not part of their future plans...sort of the way you guys handled Deng.

A lesson is also sent to the league that small market teams are already disadvantaged enough without d-bag players and agents not even fulfilling contracts they’ve signed. The whole system is broken. How can a team plan for the future, acquiring players, building teams for a planned future that’s built on sand. The more stink this creates the more likely owners will address the issue in the next CBA.

[FireMicoHalili]

I will! As a Lakerfan, I'll be greatly amused at the prospect of the "model franchise Spurs" going through a season-long shit storm. Watching the roster full of G-Leaguers and no-names bumble through the season in San Antonio while their franchise player frets and fumes in a suit on the sidelines will be hilarious. And then, watching the angst, mania & false bravado on this board next July when Kawhi walks for nothing and joins LeBron will be absolutely delicious!


Of course, that's assuming PATFO have completely lost their minds. Otherwise, Kawhi will be gone before training camp ends and San Antonio will have some nice new picks and a decent young player.
The Spurs have annually gone through a roster of G-Leaguers in hopes of trying to find value. The fan base has had to “endure” guys like Mensah-Bonsu, Chris Quinn, Melvin Saunders, so on and so forth. The fan base has hated the penny-pinching, but it’s all part of the charm. I see the Lakers have had some success with late draft picks which is a good sign, since another year of futility would have meant the Lakers brass has learned nothing these past few years.

I agree, it will all be amusing to see the dynasty (or whatever remains of it) come crashing down. Most of the fans here may have been spoiled with championships and constant playoff appearances that it’s imminent the Spurs are due for a downfall. The NBA hoi polloi - perhaps, save the Spurs themselves - have long anticipated and awaited the fall of San Antonio. Everyone thought they were done in 2005, then in 2007, then 2014. I understand it’s tedious to hate the Spurs year after year, more so they made the Lakers look bad in 2013 given the talented core the Lakers had. Long overdue serving of humble pie, and it will be good not only for the fan base but for the front office as well, to serve as a lesson in adjustment. Good things never last, only that the Lakers’ run of dominance ended much sooner.

It must be difficult living in irrelevance even with all that money, those high draft picks, and the wasted free agent pitches that have worked, for the most part, in the early 00’s. The Lakers snagged LeBron, one of the greatest players in this era, plus a mixed bag of acquisitions which may or may not pan out, but the total result will be better than any other result the Lakers have had in the past years. You probably have personal reasons for hating the Spurs, but the fact remains: Leonard isn’t a Laker yet. One week of all that frenzy and wasted emotional investment just to have no star with which to pair LeBron. Impatient lot, as your kind has always been. The schadenfreude is forthcoming and the Spurs might actually lose a lot in terms of value, but there are fans who will roll with the team with or without Leonard. In the first place, the front office didn’t give up a lot for this guy. Whatever comes out of a Leonard trade will be a return of investment on freaking George Hill. Save for Jean-Charles the Spurs have managed to eke out value in tight situations. This team will be fine, and if it doesn’t, there wasn’t much to work with in the first place anyway. Not a lot of fans experience a run of dominance this long, see marquee players who take a pay cut flourish and retire, and a scouting program that manages to find value at the dregs of the draft.

Equally as comical by the way: why are the Lakers so high on their younger players but keep insisting on a trade for Leonard? I thought there was a lot of trust in Ingram and/or Kuzma or whoever the hell your lot keeps throwing in for Kawhi? If they’re so good maybe the Lakers should just keep them and move on toward the season with that core. Everyone wins.

[Keepin' it real]

He traded yet?

[JPB]

Sometimes you gotta show compassion for your foes. Seeing that Johnny Moore kid get humiliated like that is kinda painful.

And you can see the way Fakers fans all are coming out of their long time shame hole this summer how they're envious and admirative of the Spurs. What kind of frustrated fan is obsessed like that by another team ? :lol "

But I can understand Fakers fans meltdown, they were already jizzing all over themselves and were ordering PG13 and Kawhi jerseys and all they got is LeRetreat and Javalance. They were preparing the parade and might end up not even make the PO in a loaded West :lol

"Kawhi has all the power mawahah, you fools ! He can waste another year of his prime after saying he was 100% and GMs already wary about his current situation then finish to kill his rep and sign with my Fakers for nothing, hehe !!"

That clown might have been banned even from Fakers forums with terrible takes like that.

[AFBlue]

He traded yet?

I heard it's a done deal.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Sometimes you gotta show compassion for your foes. Seeing that Johnny Moore kid get humiliated like that is kinda painful.

And you can see the way Fakers fans all are coming out of their long time shame hole this summer how they're envious and admirative of the Spurs. What kind of frustrated fan is obsessed like that by another team ? :lol "

But I can understand Fakers fans meltdown, they were already jizzing all over themselves and were ordering PG13 and Kawhi jerseys and all they got is LeRetreat and Javalance. They were preparing the parade and might end up not even make the PO in a loaded West :lol

"Kawhi has all the power mawahah, you fools ! He can waste another year of his prime after saying he was 100% and GMs already wary about his current situation then finish to kill his rep and sign with my Fakers for nothing, hehe !!"

That clown might have been banned even from Fakers forums with terrible takes like that.

Dude is clearly a young poster eager to type anything that pops up in his mind but doesn't know his arse from his elbow. There have been many like that before him. No need to argue with these types.

[johnnymoore]

Equally as comical by the way: why are the Lakers so high on their younger players but keep insisting on a trade for Leonard? I thought there was a lot of trust in Ingram and/or Kuzma or whoever the hell your lot keeps throwing in for Kawhi? If they’re so good maybe the Lakers should just keep them and move on toward the season with that core. Everyone wins.

This is the rub. Apparently, Ingram was not (and will not be) offered - and Laker hater Doris Burke agrees with that:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7_h7oKEIAE

Highly doubtful that Ball was offered, as well.

[Spurs9]

This is the rub. Apparently, Ingram was not (and will not be) offered - and Laker hater Doris Burke agrees with that:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7_h7oKEIAE

Highly doubtful that Ball was offered, as well.

So Magic offering Zubac + Deng for Kawhi?

[jermaine]

This is the rub. Apparently, Ingram was not (and will not be) offered - and Laker hater Doris Burke agrees with that:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7_h7oKEIAE

Highly doubtful that Ball was offered, as well.

I'd be offended if I was the Spurs or Kawhi if BI was untouchable!!!! I'd hang up the phone in their face an black all known numbers associated with them.

[johnnymoore]

So Magic offering Zubac + Deng for Kawhi?

Plus picks! :king

In reality, probably Kuzma & Hart, but Lakers fans don't want to give up Hart.

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Plus picks! :king

In reality, probably Kuzma & Hart, but Lakers fans don't want to give up Hart.

Then don't bitch that you guys cant have Kawhitter. Just come to peace with the fact you'll get him in the 2019-2020 season and that you will have wasted another year of LeBron in his prime. Just remember how quickly it all unraveled for Kobe. You guys can start your superteam with him when he's 35 though.

And then try to figure out all those contracts. You think Ball, Kuz, Ingram, and Hart aren't going to want to get paid too? All the while, you'll have Kawhi and an aging Lebron on max deals.

Good luck with your surplus in Wonderland.

[FireMicoHalili]

This is the rub. Apparently, Ingram was not (and will not be) offered - and Laker hater Doris Burke agrees with that:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7_h7oKEIAE

Highly doubtful that Ball was offered, as well.
So the point is the Lakers should just keep the pieces of their trade package. I don’t know why anyone has to get riled up with the Spurs not trading Leonard to the Lakers if the Lakers get to keep decent players. I can understand the frustration with some posters/poseurs/marauders here but it doesn’t make sense to let go of Leonard for players who barely move the needle. You’ve had all three of Ingram, Kuzma, and Hart last year and got nowhere. Kawhi at his best gave San Antonio a championship. Have to understand despite this whole saga the Spurs’ front office has more or less delivered the past few years so there is some sort of hope, if not optimism, among some Spurs fans there are better deals out there. Probably save your laughing for the trade deadline or if they somehow end up with a Paul George-like trade. You should see the trades your lot has been proposing: Deng, Hart, and Kuzma, really? You’re offloading garbage and mediocre players for the best player on the squad and who will probably sign with the Lakers in the future. It just doesn’t make sense for the Lakers too, and my siblings (both Lakers fans) agree.

Like I said before, no one cares about Lonzo. Great instincts, great size, great rebounding, but horrible ass shooting form. I’m sure the PATFO might like him since Engelland can make something out of him (might take years) but highly probably none of us here want him and his baggage (read: family). The Spurs have had enough problems with players’ family members. Not sure about the news you consume but I haven’t read him brought up in any negotiations, and with good reason.

Let’s not forget the fact the Lakers are a big market team that has failed to put something together despite its spending capacity and its corresponding lifestyle, arguably points of attraction to free agents. To whom much is given, much is expected. The Spurs might turn out to be this season’s punch line, but the rest of the league has been laughing at the Lakers and the Knicks for years now.

[Dverde]

Regarding the Lakers, I don’t see how having your three best players playing the same position is a successful formula. LBJ, Kawhi, Ingram. LBJ would have to move to the four. Not sure if he would do that permanently.

[szkorhetz]

Regarding the Lakers, I don’t see how having your three best players playing the same position is a successful formula. LBJ, Kawhi, Ingram. LBJ would have to move to the four. Not sure if he would do that permanently.
He is playing point forward. There is no such thing as sf or pf anymore. the Kawhi-Ingram-LBJ would be really similar to the Thompson-Durant-Green core which is pretty succesful.

[FireMicoHalili]

He is playing point forward. There is no such thing as sf or pf anymore. the Kawhi-Ingram-LBJ would be really similar to the Thompson-Durant-Green core which is pretty succesful.
LeBron will play point if he has to, but has indicated he wants to play off-ball. If they get Leonard they’ll probably slot Ingram at the two (or Leonard) and trot out Rondo-Ingram-Leonard-James-McGee/some ring-chasing vet like Monroe. Scary on paper and the length is formidable.

[jjktkk]

apalisoc_9



Hope everything has turned around for you little fella :cry

:lol

[FireMicoHalili]

Damn. Done. Deal. :lol

Baka gumawa na ng bagong account yan. Start over.
He’s probably making a new account and that’s the beauty of this entire mess. If he’s good at one thing it’s panggagago, pero wag sya manggago ng mas gago sa kanya.