Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[SpursWoman]

Oh and I think that if I were the Spurs, and the offers weren't getting any better than we heard today, that I would just call Kawhi's bluff and say, "OK, well you are under contract, see you in training camp."

+1

[Mr. Body]

Add in some picks and get it done, not the biggest Covington fan but he makes the salaries work.
https://i.imgur.com/T7lK4aa.png

Why would you dump Mills for a worse contract in Covington?

[dbestpro]

76ers package for Kawhi is beyond overrated. While that Miami pick is unprotected it's a 2021 pick, too many unknowns with that. And Saric is a very flawed player in today's league as Boston showed.

Stop reading and start watching. I thought the LA package looked better until I started looking at the tape of all the players in question. Saric is a Spurs type of player. He shoots the three, bangs down low, and will dive like Manu for lose balls. Covington can replace much of the defense lost by Kawhi. If you can pull Orlando into the trade and grab a double double machine like Vucecic and to top it off you get a probable lottery pick down the road. (Miami's large contracts on marginal players for several years). Even if it falls out of the lottery it is by far the superior deal to stay relevant and build on the fly.

[baseline bum]

You know, you're right. Ingram is a superstar. The Lakers should keep him and not trade for Kawhi. :downspin:

:lol Why would they trade two superstars for one?

[DPG21920]

Kawhi to PHI just got stronger. PHI said they are star hunting. They know after losing to BOS 4-1 without Kyrie/Hayward they need more. I think there is a match. It’s all about does Kawhi torpedo things by being difficult and making PHI feel like they have 0 shot at keeping him. Kawhi in PHI would be dope too

[bklynspursfan]

Kawhi to PHI just got stronger. PHI said they are star hunting. They know after losing to BOS 4-1 without Kyrie/Hayward they need more. I think there is a match. It’s all about does Kawhi torpedo things by being difficult and making PHI feel like they have 0 shot at keeping him. Kawhi in PHI would be dope too

I hope it's Philly or Boston. More Boston because F Philly and Jabari Young getting to be the official Windhorst to Kawhi back home.

[dbestpro]

Why would you dump Mills for a worse contract in Covington?

Covington's contract this past year was 16m. It is 10-12m per year going forward for the next 4 years.

[Killakobe81]

:lol Why would they trade two superstars for one?

Now you guys sound like LG ...
Saric and Covington?
LOL what a shitty trade.

IF kyrie and sacto pick or tatum and Memphis pick I would agree great deals.

[YGWHI]

from Patty





http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/patty-mills-weighs-in-on-the-kawhi-leonard-saga-ive-loved-being-his-teammate

Being smart and polite in public isn't that hard. If only the "old leaders" on the team know that...

Can't wait for Parker's new contract with the Spurs.

[TheGreatYacht]

Trading Kawhi to Philly would've been a great idea..... had they not shat all over themselves and traded Mikal Bridges. That package is laughable.

[MoSpur02]

Spurs can still pitch to LeBron playing with Kawhi come July 1st. I’m just saying...:wakeup

Exactly

[MoSpur02]

Being smart and polite in public isn't that hard. If only the "old leaders" on the team know that...

Can't wait for Parker's new contract with the Spurs.

C'mon. It's about dollars. If he's hurt by Parker's comments than that says more about Kawhi than what it says about Parker.

[Spurs9]

I personally don't want Covington but everyone in this thread seems to so I threw him into the trade machine.

[RsxPiimp]

killa out here convincing folks is like a black man at a KKK convention handing out BLM leaflets :lol

[bklynspursfan]

Being smart and polite in public isn't that hard. If only the "old leaders" on the team know that...

Can't wait for Parker's new contract with the Spurs.

The old leaders never had to deal with their franchise player not wanting to play or participate in team activities with them. He was gone way before the Parker comment in his mind man.

[baseline bum]

Now you guys sound like LG ...
Saric and Covington?
LOL what a shitty trade.

IF kyrie and sacto pick or tatum and Memphis pick I would agree great deals.

I'd take Ingram and Kuzma over Saric and Covington any day. But the Sixers have assets to sweeten their offer. The Lakers don't.

[YGWHI]

He's sweating at the prospect of being traded away from that biggest stage. My point is trading kawhi for the lakers prospects won't help the spurs longterm because those players will bolt as they enter their primes. Laker prospects also notoriously underperform after they leave LA. I'd rather the spurs make kawhi suffer for another year, and screw the lakers super team plans in the process. The only assets I would want for him are lottery picks.

Why do you think if they trade kawhi for Fultz/Tatum/drafted guys...those players will want to stay in SA? I doubt it.

If we consider Pop will retire soon, unless the Spurs get LeBron and build a superteam, I doubt any future All Star/All NBA team would want to stay in SA.

[Spurs9]

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[Spurs da champs]

Now you guys sound like LG ...
Saric and Covington?
LOL what a shitty trade.

IF kyrie and sacto pick or tatum and Memphis pick I would agree great deals.

Tatum & Memphis pick is no hesitation.

[ducks]

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and then go on welfare?

[YGWHI]

The old leaders never had to deal with their franchise player not wanting to play or participate in team activities with them. He was gone way before the Parker comment in his mind man.

Doesn' matter what, being polite in front media is the smarter decision.

Can't believe some people think those comments were right. It's hilarious to believe those comments helped to fix the situation.

[Killakobe81]

killa out here convincing folks is like a black man at a KKK convention handing out BLM leaflets :lol

You silly. :lol
Its all good I just believe in Ingram and am bored.
If we dont trade for KL we keep him and I get to see up close if I was right about BI.
IF we trade him I still will follow him from afar because I think he is legit. I really like Kuzma but am Less sure of him and even less sure of Lonzo ... but Zo figures out FT shooting and at least his 36 % of 3's he is gonne be damn good too.

[ducks]

Doesn' matter what, being polite in front media is the smarter decision.

Can't believe some people think those comments were right. It's hilarious to believe those comments helped to fix the situation.
if those comments got him to realize his stupidity then you would be quite fine with them

[mclinejr]

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Just like people around saying they’ll leave the forum?

[YGWHI]

C'mon. It's about dollars. If he's hurt by Parker's comments than that says more about Kawhi than what it says about Parker.

Like any other superstar in the league would love that a teammate questioned his injury in public.

If some people can't realize those comments weren't the best thing that could happen to Spurs-Kawhi relationship... I can't help.

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mods should change your username. you don't deserve put duncan as your nick and at the same time defend this pos.

Word.

[bklynspursfan]

Doesn' matter what, being polite in front media is the smarter decision.

Can't believe some people think those comments were right. It's hilarious to believe those comments helped to fix the situation.

They were quiet damn near all year while dealing with it. Manu even said if he's feeling pain, he should sit out and supported him.

At a certain point, they got tired of dealing with all the media crap while Kawhi and his group got no questions about it and remained 'hidden'.

It's hilarious you think Kawhi and his camp are victims here and should take no responsibility for any of this.

[Spurs da champs]

Stop reading and start watching. I thought the LA package looked better until I started looking at the tape of all the players in question. Saric is a Spurs type of player. He shoots the three, bangs down low, and will dive like Manu for lose balls. Covington can replace much of the defense lost by Kawhi. If you can pull Orlando into the trade and grab a double double machine like Vucecic and to top it off you get a probable lottery pick down the road. (Miami's large contracts on marginal players for several years). Even if it falls out of the lottery it is by far the superior deal to stay relevant and build on the fly.

How ironic, "stop reading & start watching", I'm assuming you didn't see how booty Saric & Covington were against Boston. Saric can be a decent player but he's still nowhere near enough for Kawhi, they'd have to include Fultz in any deal for Kiwi. And I'm not even sold on Fultz.

[200 miles]

Why do you think if they trade kawhi for Fultz/Tatum/drafted guys...those players will want to stay in SA? I doubt it.

If we consider Pop will retire soon, unless the Spurs get LeBron and build a superteam, I doubt any future All Star/All NBA team would want to stay in SA.

Why do you think they would be so eager to leave SA with the first chance they get? I already know that's the case with young veteran free agents and not so much with old-timers. But if even rookies and sophomores aren't interested in going to/staying in SA, they might as well move this elderly team to Seattle.

[Spurs da champs]

Yeah, people definitely getting paranoid about everybody wanting to leave SA just because Uncle Dennis wants out is dumb.

[YGWHI]

if those comments got him to realize his stupidity then you would be quite fine with them
No. And you know those comments weren't fine.

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According to Stephen A Smith, Kawhi isn't set on just the Lakers. He's set on Los Angeles, meaning he is cool with playing for the Clippers. So even if LeBron and PG sign with the Lakers and don't have any room left for Kawhi, he is cool playing for the Clippers.

To me that means he is okay with losing and doesn't care as much as we thought about winning.

But PATFOs roster construction.

[exstatic]

Covington's contract this past year was 16m. It is 10-12m per year going forward for the next 4 years.

Patty's, which I consider to be the worst Spurs deal going forward, only has 3 years. That extra 8 figure money needs a sweetener from PHI.

[MoSpur02]

Like any other superstar in the league would love that a teammate questioned his injury in public.

If some people can't realize those comments weren't the best thing that could happen to Spurs-Kawhi relationship... I can't help.

The comment about his injury being worse was true. We're they necessary, nah? If that comment hurt his feelings and is main reason for him leaving then again, it's saysore about him than it does Parker.

Kobe, LeBron, or MJ wouldn't have cried to the media about a teammate's comment about his injury. They would have played on. They would've used that comment as motivation. They would've confronted that teammate.

[ducks]

No. And you know those comments weren't fine.

Sometime you need to hear the truth even if you may not like it

Spurs talked to him privately before Manu,tp,David went public

[RD2191]

The comment about his injury being worse was true. We're they necessary, nah? If that comment hurt his feelings and is main reason for him leaving then again, it's saysore about him than it does Parker.

Kobe, LeBron, or MJ wouldn't have cried to the media about a teammate's comment about his injury. They would have played on. They would've used that comment as motivation. They would've confronted that teammate.

Kobe and LeBron have been bitches their entire careers. Stop it. :lol

[John B]

Just like people around saying they’ll leave the forum?
Need to leave the parents basement first :lol

[Spurs da champs]

But PATFOs roster construction.

He just wants to grow his brand, it's so clear at this point. Winning is just a bonus, not sure how successful he'll be with the personality of a lobster.

[YGWHI]

It's hilarious you think Kawhi and his camp are victims here and should take no responsibility for any of this.
I'm not saying they're victims, I say it's stupid to think those comments were right or helped to fix something.

If other teammate could be nice and polite I just wonder why they needed to call him out. You say they were fine doing it...I say it wasn't smart.

[exstatic]

He just wants to grow his brand, it's so clear at this point. Winning is just a bonus, not sure how successful he'll be with the personality of a lobster.

Yeah, Uncle Dennis has delusions of a LeBron type agency. Two problems with that: LeBron is going to suck all of the air out of that room, and when they see what a hash The Group has made of their first negotiation, players won't touch Agencie Groupe with a ten foot pole.

[bklynspursfan]

I'm not saying they're victims, I say it's stupid to think those comments were right or helped to fix something.

If other teammate could be nice and polite I just wonder why they needed to call him out. You say they were fine doing it...I say it wasn't smart.

Or, those comments weren't a factor at all , and now it's just an excuse for his camp to use. Just like him "not having fun" lol.

[YGWHI]

The comment about his injury being worse was true.
Not really. Those were two comp different injuries and Parker knew that.


We're they necessary, nah? If that comment hurt his feelings and is main reason for him leaving then again, it's saysore about him than it does Parker.

Kobe, LeBron, or MJ wouldn't have cried to the media about a teammate's comment about his injury. They would have played on. They would've used that comment as motivation. They would've confronted that teammate.

You sounds very weird saying that LeBron Kobe or MJ would love that a player talks shit about an injury...For less than that, they would ask Phil to trade that teammate.

[rjv]

Yeah, Uncle Dennis has delusions of a LeBron type agency. Two problems with that: LeBron is going to suck all of the air out of that room, and when they see what a hash The Group has made of their first negotiation, players won't touch Agencie Groupe with a ten foot pole.

if the spurs FO winds up not trading leonard they can tell leonard and his uncle that teams just really didn't want to give up all that much because there were too many questions. now dennis could turn around and blame that on the spurs and say it's because of the doubt they put out there publicly about leonard's injury or they can be honest and accept some of the blame because of their reluctance to be so forthcoming. regardless, the spurs could tell leonard that his market value is not what his uncle thinks it is and the only way to repair that situation would be to play a full year and show that he is the leonard of old that teams would covet. if he leaves after that one year the spurs lose out on any return, of course, other than the freed up cap space.

[YGWHI]

Or, those comments weren't a factor at all , and now it's just an excuse for his camp to use. Just like him "not having fun" lol.
If you're so obtuse to believe that comments questioning the injury of a franchise player help to fix something...I can't help

[look_at_g_shred]

I want this shit done already whether a trade or extension..lets fucking do this already

[BackHome]

Dude give it a rest every one on this forum knows K-Y is a pussy who bailed on his team well before the team meeting.

[MoSpur02]

I want this shit done already whether a trade or extension..lets fucking do this already

This.

[YGWHI]

Why do you think they would be so eager to leave SA with the first chance they get? I already know that's the case with young veteran free agents and not so much with old-timers. But if even rookies and sophomores aren't interested in going to/staying in SA, they might as well move this elderly team to Seattle.
Because the Spurs have issues luring big-name FA and now they have issues keeping their own guys. LMA asked for a trade and Pop had to change the whole offense to convince him to stay...Kawhi is leaving..

I doubt things get better after Pop's retirement.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I want this shit done already whether a trade or extension..lets fucking do this already


Impatience is just what the asshats like Magic and Ainge want out of the Spurs so the front office will make a stupid deal that guts the Spurs. Simmer down.

[bklynspursfan]

If you're so obtuse to believe that comments questioning the injury of a franchise player help to fix something...I can't help

How can you fix something that was not meant to be fixed? Maybe they got word of him wanting out by that time. Who knows? It was reported earlier in the season he wanted out.

[ducks]

I WOULD STAY WITH THE SPURS FOR 80 EXTRA MILLION

[YGWHI]

I want this shit done already whether a trade or extension..lets fucking do this already

This is the most entertaining offseason the NBA gets in years...Can't remember the last time many top players were in the market.

I'm so excited by the possible moves and opportunities.

Just enjoy it

[daslicer]

Because the Spurs have issues luring big-name FA and now they have issues keeping their own guys. LMA asked for a trade and Pop had to change the whole offense to convince him to stay...Kawhi is leaving..

I doubt things get better after Pop's retirement.

:lol If Pop is the reason why guys don't want to stay in SA then why wouldn't things get better after he retires? The real truth is SA is a small market like Indiana,Utah and will always have trouble getting a big time FA because guys simply don't want to be in small market. Even Lebron had a hard time recruiting guys to come play with him during his first stint in Cleveland. That's why he left to Miami.

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Doesn' matter what, being polite in front media is the smarter decision.

Can't believe some people think those comments were right. It's hilarious to believe those comments helped to fix the situation.

A player is entitled to call out another player if that player has so demonstrably failed to live up to the expectations of his teammates AND responsibilities to the team and organization.

I can't believe you think the team should have just rolled over and taken it up the ass?

[YGWHI]

How can you fix something that was not meant to be fixed? Maybe they got word of him wanting out by that time. Who knows? It was reported earlier in the season he wanted out.
It was reported in last weeks that the Spurs wanted to fix the relationship...I wonder why they gave up in early March and wanted to ruing things with those comments.

Who knows but they shouldn't make those comments if they wanted to fix things.

[DPG21920]

Best thing for SA would be Lebron and PG tanking max from LA immediately

[RD2191]

A player is entitled to call out another player if that player has so demonstrably failed to live up to the expectations of his teammates AND responsibilities to the team and organization.

I can't believe you think the team should have just rolled over and taken it up the ass?

He was injured.

[daslicer]

Not really. Those were two comp different injuries and Parker knew that.



You sounds very weird saying that LeBron Kobe or MJ would love that a player talks shit about an injury...For less than that, they would ask Phil to trade that teammate.

You are really a crazy delusional person considering he didn't say MJ and Kobe would have loved for a teammate to insult them about injury. He said they would have confronted their teammate which is what Kawhi should have done if he was really butt hurt about what Parker said. There is no way to defend that passive aggressive behavior by Kawhi. A real man does not going into hiding after he gets insulted they stand up for themselves.

[RD2191]

You are really a crazy delusional person considering he didn't say MJ and Kobe would have loved for a teammate to insult them about injury. He said they would have confronted their teammate which is what Kawhi should have done if he was really butt hurt about what Parker said. There is no way to defend that passive aggressive behavior by Kawhi. A real man does not going into hiding after he gets insulted they stand up for themselves.

Go up to Kawhi and tell him he's not a real man. Let us know how it turns out for you.

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Or, those comments weren't a factor at all , and now it's just an excuse for his camp to use. Just like him "not having fun" lol.

It's the same as it ever was with these guys.

[lmbebo]

Thinking about this, I can imagine the spurs expected some issues going forward. Remember there being a lot of tension on Kwahi's contract extension in 14-15? Spurs wanted to wait a season to give it, Kwahi/"agent" wanted it immediately ...

[YGWHI]

A player is entitled to call out another player if that player has so demonstrably failed to live up to the expectations of his teammates AND responsibilities to the team and organization.

I can't believe you think the team should have just rolled over and taken it up the ass?

:lol

It seems like you don't know how things work in sports....When a player gets the status of face of a franchise, no one on his team would criticize him.

If someone does it, there are only two options, the team supports the franchise player and trade the teammate who criticized him, or the franchise player leaves the team.

It has always been this way in NBA history..

In this case, I guess Parker will get a new deal...Good for him!

[daslicer]

Go up to Kawhi and tell him he's not a real man. Let us know how it turns out for you.

:lol I would and knowing Kawhi he would not do anything about it. Instead he would ask Uncle Dennis to take me out.

[RD2191]

:lol

It seems like you don't know how things work in sports....When a player gets the status of face of a franchise, no one on his team would criticize him.

If someone does it, there are only two options, the team supports the franchise player and trade the teammate who criticized him, or the franchise player leaves the team.

It has always been this way in NBA history..

In this case, I guess Parker will get a new deal...Good for him!

As Sjax said, Porker doesn't make those comments without Pop's consent. Pop fucked up and he knows it.

[Spurs9]

:lol Now PG apparently may stay now, Magic probably running back to the phone for the Spurs.

[RD2191]

:lol I would and knowing Kawhi he would not do anything about it. Instead he would ask Uncle Dennis to take me out.

Yeah, sure buddy. :lol

[Spurs9]

(Shelburne) "Ideally, the Lakers would like to have a Kawhi Leonard trade done within the next 24 hours. They are still looking for a 3rd team to give up draft picks."

Shelburne reporting on 710 ESPN - KSPN-AM - ESPN Los Angeles about a Kawhi Leonard deal possibly getting done in 24 hours.

[weebo]

(Shelburne) "Ideally, the Lakers would like to have a Kawhi Leonard trade done within the next 24 hours. They are still looking for a 3rd team to give up draft picks."

Shelburne reporting on 710 ESPN - KSPN-AM - ESPN Los Angeles about a Kawhi Leonard deal possibly getting done in 24 hours.

right....:lol

[baseline bum]

(Shelburne) "Ideally, the Lakers would like to have a Kawhi Leonard trade done within the next 24 hours. They are still looking for a 3rd team to give up draft picks."

Shelburne reporting on 710 ESPN - KSPN-AM - ESPN Los Angeles about a Kawhi Leonard deal possibly getting done in 24 hours.

And Ideally the Spurs would like to trade him to Golden State for Curry and Durant.

[daslicer]

Yeah, sure buddy. :lol

Truth hurts he ran away from Tony Parker who is physically probably the weakest guy on the team. Pretty embarrassing to get punked by Parker.

[YGWHI]

You are really a crazy delusional person considering he didn't say MJ and Kobe would have loved for a teammate to insult them about injury. He said they would have confronted their teammate which is what Kawhi should have done if he was really butt hurt about what Parker said. There is no way to defend that passive aggressive behavior by Kawhi. A real man does not going into hiding after he gets insulted they stand up for themselves.

Do you really think the thing would have gotten better if Kawhi could have called Parker out in front media?

In my best blue font "Yeah..I guess that could have helped a lot to this situation."

[BillMc]

Probably already announced in this thread, but LeBron opted out. That means Lakers have more time.

[RD2191]

Truth hurts he ran away from Tony Parker who is physically probably the weakest guy on the team. Pretty embarrassing to get punked by Parker.

Parker would kick your ass too. Gtfo.

[lmbebo]

(Shelburne) "Ideally, the Lakers would like to have a Kawhi Leonard trade done within the next 24 hours. They are still looking for a 3rd team to give up draft picks."

Shelburne reporting on 710 ESPN - KSPN-AM - ESPN Los Angeles about a Kawhi Leonard deal possibly getting done in 24 hours.

LA wants deal done ...

[BSfromTX]

Like any other superstar in the league would love that a teammate questioned his injury in public.

If some people can't realize those comments weren't the best thing that could happen to Spurs-Kawhi relationship... I can't help.


Seriously? Are we to believe this is the reason he wants out? BS! It’s a sorry cop out. Is kawhi that mentally fragile? What if he and Parker were teammates in LA? Is he going to ask to be traded because some little French queer calls him out? Hell no, he would fire back. Seriously that whole take is ludicrous

[RD2191]

PATFO is fucking around too much. Kawhi is going to end up walking for nothing.

[Spurs9]

PATFO is fucking around too much. Kawhi is going to end up walking for nothing.

Hes gonna be traded soon imo

[lmbebo]

PATFO is fucking around too much. Kawhi is going to end up walking for nothing.

Better than taking crap back that sets franchise back years ...

[Mugen]

Hopefully that fat fucking sea monster Ramona chokes on her Langer's pastrami sandwich later today tbh

[MoSpur02]

Do you really think the thing would have gotten better if Kawhi could have called Parker out in front media?

In my best blue font "Yeah..I guess that could have helped a lot to this situation."

No one said anything about Kawhi confronting him in the media. You confront that person in private. C'mon you can't be this naive.

[RD2191]

Seriously? Are we to believe this is the reason he wants out? BS! It’s a sorry cop out. Is kawhi that mentally fragile? What if he and Parker were teammates in LA? Is he going to ask to be traded because some little French queer calls him out? Hell no, he would fire back. Seriously that whole take is ludicrous

:lmao

[daslicer]

Do you really think the thing would have gotten better if Kawhi could have called Parker out in front media?

In my best blue font "Yeah..I guess that could have helped a lot to this situation."

Did I say for Kawhi to call out Parker in front of the media? Even if he did the media would have favored Kawhi in that situation since they want him out of SA anyways. He could have confronted Parker behind closed doors face to face. That's what I was implying.

[RD2191]

Better than taking crap back that sets franchise back years ...

Spurs are fucked either way. Building through the draft will also take years.

[Crazymaddopeyo]

Hopefully that fat fucking sea monster Ramona chokes on her Langer's pastrami sandwich later today tbh

The worst people post here.

[RD2191]

Hopefully that fat fucking sea monster Ramona chokes on her Langer's pastrami sandwich later today tbh

Keep Big Mona out of this. :wakeup

[YGWHI]

As Sjax said, Porker doesn't make those comments without Pop's consent. Pop fucked up and he knows it.

Who knows. But I'm sure that nothing is a coincidence on a Pop's team, no one would say a word without his approval and consent

[exstatic]

It was reported in last weeks that the Spurs wanted to fix the relationship...I wonder why they gave up in early March and wanted to ruing things with those comments.

Who knows but they shouldn't make those comments if they wanted to fix things.

This guy has JUST the same smarmy, self-satisfied tone as Jabroni.

[gambit1990]

Great mature response by patty, unlike that fat fuck Porker.
:lol

[Seventyniner]

I WOULD STAY WITH THE SPURS FOR 80 EXTRA MILLION

But how much would it take for you to sign a 4-year contract with the Democratic National Committee?

[exstatic]

The reality is, Kawhi realized that he's fucked the franchise, and betrayed his teammates by skipping last season with a fake injury, and can't face them. Everything else is just spaghetti thrown against the wall to see what the group could get to stick.

[RD2191]

The reality is, Kawhi realized that he's fucked the franchise, and betrayed his teammates by skipping last season with a fake injury, and can't face them. Everything else is just spaghetti thrown against the wall to see what the group could get to stick.

Proof he was faking an injury?

[daslicer]

:lol At anybody who believes Kawhi could not get Parker removed from the Spurs if he wanted to. Pop would bend over in that situation if it meant Kawhi would stay long term much like how he bent over for Duncan when Duncan wanted to get rid of Avery Johnson in '01. Keep in mind Pop is probably closer to Avery than Parker since Avery is the reason why he didn't get fired all way back in '99. Kawhi just doesn't want to be here and his camp is using whatever excuse they can to get him out of here.

[weebo]

Proof he was faking an injury?

Parker's injury was 100 times worse...he played.

[Crazymaddopeyo]

As Sjax said, Porker doesn't make those comments without Pop's consent. Pop fucked up and he knows it.

Crazy, assuming something and talking about it as fact on this forum is normal and that’s a problem.

[YGWHI]

Did I say for Kawhi to call out Parker in front of the media? Even if he did the media would have favored Kawhi in that situation since they want him out of SA anyways. He could have confronted Parker behind closed doors face to face. That's what I was implying.
I wonder how Kawhi confronting Parker could have helped to this situation, there is no damage control after someone doubts about the injury of a teammate

But if you want that someone hit Parker's in his face, don't ask Kawhi to do that...TP will play for the Spurs this next season, just buy a ticket and do it by yourself...

[RD2191]

Crazy, assuming something and talking about it as fact on this forum is normal and that’s a problem.

Sjax knows how the Spurs work. He might be a salty ex spur but he knows how they operate.

[BSfromTX]

I wonder how Kawhi confronting Parker could have helped to this situation, there is no damage control after someone doubts about the injury of a teammate

But if you want that someone hit Parker's in his face, don't ask Kawhi to do that...TP will play for the Spurs this next season, just buy a ticket and do it by yourself...

dude, take this situation and put them on the Lakers. What does Kawhi do? Ask to be traded? Hell no he doesn’t.

[coachmac87]

I wonder how Kawhi confronting Parker could have helped to this situation, there is no damage control after someone doubts about the injury of a teammate

But if you want that someone hit Parker's in his face, don't ask Kawhi to do that...TP will play for the Spurs this next season, just buy a ticket and do it by yourself...


Kawhi wanted out before that bud...

He wanted out before the season started...

But keep putting the blame on others..Kawhi never liked SA.

[YGWHI]

This guy has JUST the same smarmy, self-satisfied tone as Jabroni.

"but but Jabroni says..." If you love basketball, stop crying and enjoy the moment, this is the best NBA offseason in years.

[spursistan]

This guy has JUST the same smarmy, self-satisfied tone as Jabroni.
:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

The comment about his injury being worse was true. We're they necessary, nah? If that comment hurt his feelings and is main reason for him leaving then again, it's saysore about him than it does Parker.

Kobe, LeBron, or MJ wouldn't have cried to the media about a teammate's comment about his injury. They would have played on. They would've used that comment as motivation. They would've confronted that teammate.

:lol Kobe cried about his own injuries as an excuse for all the bricks he was chucking.

[daslicer]

I wonder how Kawhi confronting Parker could have helped to this situation, there is no damage control after someone doubts about the injury of a teammate

But if you want that someone hit Parker's in his face, don't ask Kawhi to do that...TP will play for the Spurs this next season, just buy a ticket and do it by yourself...

:lmao Wow just wow anyways why would I want to punch Parker he didn't insult me. Anyways when I say stand up for yourself it doesn't mean for Kawhi go punch out Parker. He could have pulled Parker to the side and straight up told him that he didn't appreciate him straight up disrespecting him. I just don't see how the situation would have gotten worse if Kawhi confronted Parker considering the media would have backed Kawhi up.

[Spurs9]

I guess the Lakers deal is the most likley, Bucks offering up a package for Deng/Ball which would route us a 1st round pick. If Ball gets dealt, most likley a Lakers deal is about to happen.
"Bucks have offered Bledsoe, Henson, & 1st to the Lakers for Lonzo & Deng."

[offset formation]

PATFO is fucking around too much. Kawhi is going to end up walking for nothing.

In a year. Lol.

And even then, we could trade him at Feb deadline for a bench player and a 2nd round pick AT WORST.

Meanwhile, you didn't give into his demand and forever more be known as cucks.

[moisaenz]

but Pop wants to help out his buddy Lebron

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

I'm just glad StrengthandHonor is actually praising a Clippers player for once instead of kissing the Lakers' ass per par.

ice burn

[MoSpur02]

:lol Kobe cried about his own injuries as an excuse for all the bricks he was chucking.

A Clipper fan hating on Kobe. Shocking

[YGWHI]

Kawhi wanted out before that bud...

He wanted out before the season started...

But keep putting the blame on others..Kawhi never liked SA.

Like rasuo214 says, since 2017 season we heard rumors that the Spurs could have trouble signing a supermax contract.

If those rumors were true, I have no doubt that leaving was one of the options, at the same time it's pretty obvious that those comments didn't help to fix the relationship.


Before last season started there were rumors that Kawhi wasn't happy with the Spurs off-season moves + the reports of not wanting to offer the supermax (I remember seeing it even before the season started) and finally the issues with his injury and the reluctance to allow him to get a personal 2nd opinion. Fast forward to now and the reports have been that Kawhi still respects Pop but has issues with the FO. Pop is only going to be around a few more seasons so he can't promise to be around another 6 years.

I doubt this is the 1st time that PATFO have meetings with Spurs owners about the supermax...I guess they started this talk last year. And that’s why whe heard those rumors about the issues with that.

I just remember a Woj’s article saying that will be hard for Pop to sell owners a supermax contract... That meant Spurs owners were very reluctant to give it even if Kawhi was healthy.

If we consider that Pop will be coaching just 1 or 2 years of 5 years of the contract, it makes sense that owners weren’t willing to sign that supermax deal

[DPG21920]

YGWHI, again, I see you pointing out all the Spurs flaws. Why don’t you, with the same frequency or desire, post about Kawhi’s flaws?

[Mr. Body]

This is all about the supermax. I've been saying that for a while.

[-21-]

In a year. Lol.

And even then, we could trade him at Feb deadline for a bench player and a 2nd round pick AT WORST.

Meanwhile, you didn't give into his demand and forever more be known as cucks.

This thread would reach a thousand pages. :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

A Clipper fan hating on Kobe. Shocking

Just stating facts. Every time the Lakers faced adversity, like clockwork, Kobe would come out with tape on his fingers, wincing in pain after every brick. :rolleyes

[offset formation]

Proof he was faking an injury?

He was self admittedly 100% less than a month after the season? That qualify?

[YGWHI]

YGWHI, again, I see you pointing out all the Spurs flaws. Why don’t you, with the same frequency or desire, post about Kawhi’s flaws?
Because we have 200 fans here posting about that.

I want to be the other voice, the other point of view.

About Kawhi's camp, I've already said they're newbie and unprofessional...But a greedy uncle doesn't make those Parker & Co comments be right.

[daslicer]

Let say hypothetically it's true the Spurs were never going to offer Kawhi the supermax and they let him and his camp know that last summer. It still does not excuse Kawhi from sitting out the whole entire year with a fake injury. When you sign a contract you are suppose to play out the whole entire contract. If he wants to leave after the contract is over that's fine. I would have had no qualms about it and would have called out the Spurs FO for being cheap.

[RD2191]

He was self admittedly 100% less than a month after the season? That qualify?

?? No.

[RD2191]

Let say hypothetically it's true the Spurs were never going to offer Kawhi the supermax and they let him and his camp know that last summer. It still does not excuse Kawhi from sitting out the whole entire year with a fake injury. When you sign a contract you are suppose to play out the whole entire contract. If he wants to leave after the contract is over that's fine. I would have had no qualms about it and would have called out the Spurs FO for being cheap.

Proof it was a fake injury?

[offset formation]

Parker's injury was 100 times worse...he played.


I wonder how Kawhi confronting Parker could have helped to this situation, there is no damage control after someone doubts about the injury of a teammate

But if you want that someone hit Parker's in his face, don't ask Kawhi to do that...TP will play for the Spurs this next season, just buy a ticket and do it by yourself...

Nah, he won 4 rings. And he's a team player and loyal. Isn't interested in self promotion, even if through family members. IOW, he's a good fucking teammate.

[YGWHI]

Let say hypothetically it's true the Spurs were never going to offer Kawhi the supermax and they let him and his camp know that last summer. It still does not excuse Kawhi from sitting out the whole entire year with a fake injury. When you sign a contract you are suppose to play out the whole entire contract. If he wants to leave after the contract is over that's fine. I would have had no qualms about it and would have called out the Spurs FO for being cheap.
He came back, played 9 games and still looked injured, he had issues with his quad in previous seasons.

I truly believe he was injured most season, he could be 80% in April but it's a player's right not to play until he's 100%, there is no need to aggravate an injury

[BackHome]

GTFO

[picnroll]

Sjax knows how the Spurs work. He might be a salty ex spur but he knows how they operate.

The next good thing SJax says about the Spurs will be the first. He can’t get over the fact that Manu was a better player and it taints everything he says.

[offset formation]

This thread would reach a thousand pages. :lmao

More. Yeah, my job performance has already suffered enough. Would love to see Bron and PG finalize somewhere, then I can take a step back from this madness for awhile.

[coachmac87]

Because we have 200 fans here posting about that.

I want to be the other voice, the other point of view.

About Kawhi's camp, I've already said they're newbie and unprofessional...But a greedy uncle doesn't make those Parker & Co comments be right.


But why did Parker say what he said? Why take it there??

The guy who’s RUPTURED HIS QUAD tendon and played within 6 months called out a guy who’s quad is sore with calcium build up or whatever you wanna call it lol...still hasn’t played and not only that LEFT the team and was not keeping his teammates in the loop. They’re busting their ass trying to stay alive and all they wanted to know was if he was coming back...Kawhi missed his own deadline to return and they wanted to know what’s up...,the worst part. He couldn’t or wouldn’t give them an answer and left he team again...

You’re a Top 5 player in the league...If KD, LeBron or anybody else pulled this stunt they’d be getting obliterated...only reason why Kawhi didn’t is because they knew before all this he had Lakers in his sight..

That’s the most fucked up part...he wanted out before all of this and then used his injury and frustration against PATFO to make them not the understanding ones..while paying him max salary meanwhile taking away all their control. Spurs tried to play ball but it didn’t work because it was NEVER gonna work.

It would’ve been hard for Kawhi and their camp to play their card if he played and Spurs won 60 games again..they couldn’t take that risk..so miss the season stay healthy and watch the team go down In flames

[YGWHI]

dude, take this situation and put them on the Lakers. What does Kawhi do? Ask to be traded? Hell no he doesn’t.
Who knows but I'm pretty sure that Kawhi or any other franchise he will ask for a trade if an old teammate calling him out in front of media and the team keeps the vet instead of supporting the franchise player.

[ducks]

This is all about the supermax. I've been saying that for a while.

would you offer the supermax to leonard with his word he would atleast stay tell pop steps down as coach

[coachmac87]

Because we have 200 fans here posting about that.

I want to be the other voice, the other point of view.

About Kawhi's camp, I've already said they're newbie and unprofessional...But a greedy uncle doesn't make those Parker & Co comments be right.


But why did Parker say what he said? Why take it there??

The guy who’s RUPTURED HIS QUAD tendon and played within 6 months called out a guy who’s quad is sore with calcium build up or whatever you wanna call it lol...still hasn’t played and not only that LEFT the team and was not keeping his teammates in the loop. They’re busting their ass trying to stay alive and all they wanted to know was if he was coming back...Kawhi missed his own deadline to return and they wanted to know what’s up...,the worst part. He couldn’t or wouldn’t give them an answer and left he team again...

You’re a Top 5 player in the league...If KD, LeBron or anybody else pulled this stunt they’d be getting obliterated...only reason why Kawhi didn’t is because they the media knew before all this he had Lakers in his sight..

That’s the most fucked up part...he wanted out before all of this and then used his injury and frustration against PATFO to make them not the understanding ones..while paying him max salary meanwhile taking away all their control. Spurs tried to play ball but it didn’t work because it was NEVER gonna work.

It would’ve been hard for Kawhi and their camp to play their card if he played and Spurs won 60 games again..they couldn’t take that risk..so miss the season stay healthy and watch the team go down In flames

[ducks]

james played in finals with a broken hand
leonard could have played the last 15 games and playoffs with being 75 percent which he was for sure if not closer to 100

[offset formation]

But why did Parker say what he said? Why take it there??

The guy who’s RUPTURED HIS QUAD tendon and played within 6 months called out a guy who’s quad is sore with calcium build up or whatever you wanna call it lol...still hasn’t played and not only that LEFT the team and was not keeping his teammates in the loop. They’re busting their ass trying to stay alive and all they wanted to know was if he was coming back...Kawhi missed his own deadline to return and they wanted to know what’s up...,the worst part. He couldn’t or wouldn’t give them an answer and left he team again...

You’re a Top 5 player in the league...If KD, LeBron or anybody else pulled this stunt they’d be getting obliterated...only reason why Kawhi didn’t is because they knew before all this he had Lakers in his sight..

That’s the most fucked up part...he wanted out before all of this and then used his injury and frustration against PATFO to make them not the understanding ones..while paying him max salary meanwhile taking away all their control. Spurs tried to play ball but it didn’t work because it was NEVER gonna work.

It would’ve been hard for Kawhi and their camp to play their card if he played and Spurs won 60 games again..they couldn’t take that risk..so miss the season stay healthy and watch the team go down In flames

:toast

[Marcus Bryant]

would you offer the supermax to leonard with his word he would atleast stay tell pop steps down as coach

The supermax would be an average of $45 mil/year for 5 years for a perimeter player starting when he turns 29 years old. That's going to be, what close to 40% of the cap? For a player with a mysterious lingering injury which he just missed 73 games for last season.

[FvckMavs]

But why did Parker say what he said? Why take it there??

The guy who’s RUPTURED HIS QUAD tendon and played within 6 months called out a guy who’s quad is sore with calcium build up or whatever you wanna call it lol...still hasn’t played and not only that LEFT the team and was not keeping his teammates in the loop. They’re busting their ass trying to stay alive and all they wanted to know was if he was coming back...Kawhi missed his own deadline to return and they wanted to know what’s up...,the worst part. He couldn’t or wouldn’t give them an answer and left he team again...

You’re a Top 5 player in the league...If KD, LeBron or anybody else pulled this stunt they’d be getting obliterated...only reason why Kawhi didn’t is because they the media knew before all this he had Lakers in his sight..

That’s the most fucked up part...he wanted out before all of this and then used his injury and frustration against PATFO to make them not the understanding ones..while paying him max salary meanwhile taking away all their control. Spurs tried to play ball but it didn’t work because it was NEVER gonna work.

It would’ve been hard for Kawhi and their camp to play their card if he played and Spurs won 60 games again..they couldn’t take that risk..so miss the season stay healthy and watch the team go down In flames

Truth bomb.

[BatManu20]

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[RD2191]

Parker is a faggot. French bum ran Kawhi out of town. Spurm fan in denial per usual.

[daslicer]

The next good thing SJax says about the Spurs will be the first. He can’t get over the fact that Manu was a better player and it taints everything he says.

I laughed when Jax said he lost respect for the Spurs after Parker/Manu had that meeting with Kawhi. I wanted to say you can't lose something that you never had in the first place. It's like I said last night jokingly to my younger brother about Jax which is how can anybody be a credible unbiased source about a former employer when they have gotten fired twice by the employer.

[picnroll]

Truth bomb.


+1

[RD2191]

But why did Parker say what he said? Why take it there??

The guy who’s RUPTURED HIS QUAD tendon and played within 6 months called out a guy who’s quad is sore with calcium build up or whatever you wanna call it lol...still hasn’t played and not only that LEFT the team and was not keeping his teammates in the loop. They’re busting their ass trying to stay alive and all they wanted to know was if he was coming back...Kawhi missed his own deadline to return and they wanted to know what’s up...,the worst part. He couldn’t or wouldn’t give them an answer and left he team again...

You’re a Top 5 player in the league...If KD, LeBron or anybody else pulled this stunt they’d be getting obliterated...only reason why Kawhi didn’t is because they the media knew before all this he had Lakers in his sight..

That’s the most fucked up part...he wanted out before all of this and then used his injury and frustration against PATFO to make them not the understanding ones..while paying him max salary meanwhile taking away all their control. Spurs tried to play ball but it didn’t work because it was NEVER gonna work.

It would’ve been hard for Kawhi and their camp to play their card if he played and Spurs won 60 games again..they couldn’t take that risk..so miss the season stay healthy and watch the team go down In flames

Dumbest shit I've ever read. :lol. So Kawhi is beasting in the play-offs, gets injured, rehabs, comes back for 9 games and then quits on the team just because? :lol makes lots of sense.

[YGWHI]

But why did Parker say what he said? Why take it there??
I've said many times since March...It doesn't matter why he said that. If a team lets frustration makes them to say in public things they shouldn't..It's not a smart decision.

Just imagine if Adams starts to call PG13 out because he disappears in crucial games last season in front of media...Do you think it's the best moment to do it?

Or a LBJ teammate says that LeBron manipulated the franchise and the locker room, that he asked FO to fire Blatt and not trade RC/Thompson?
You could think that what he's saying is true but this is it the best time to do it while the Cavs wants to keep their franchise player? No.

Like it or not, Pop, Parker and Manu's comments weren't fine.

[Marcus Bryant]

But why did Parker say what he said? Why take it there??

The guy who’s RUPTURED HIS QUAD tendon and played within 6 months called out a guy who’s quad is sore with calcium build up or whatever you wanna call it lol...still hasn’t played and not only that LEFT the team and was not keeping his teammates in the loop. They’re busting their ass trying to stay alive and all they wanted to know was if he was coming back...Kawhi missed his own deadline to return and they wanted to know what’s up...,the worst part. He couldn’t or wouldn’t give them an answer and left he team again...

You’re a Top 5 player in the league...If KD, LeBron or anybody else pulled this stunt they’d be getting obliterated...only reason why Kawhi didn’t is because they the media knew before all this he had Lakers in his sight..

That’s the most fucked up part...he wanted out before all of this and then used his injury and frustration against PATFO to make them not the understanding ones..while paying him max salary meanwhile taking away all their control. Spurs tried to play ball but it didn’t work because it was NEVER gonna work.

It would’ve been hard for Kawhi and their camp to play their card if he played and Spurs won 60 games again..they couldn’t take that risk..so miss the season stay healthy and watch the team go down In flames

:tu

[daslicer]

Believing Parker is the reason why Kawhi is leaving the spurs is like believing a 20 year old model who divorced her 60 year old husband because in her words she felt that her husband took her for granted. In both cases we knew ahead of the time the relationship was never going to work out long term.

[cd98]

It's amazing how fun a team can be and how no one gets offended when a super max is on the table.

[gambit1990]

So Kawhi is beasting in the play-offs, gets injured, rehabs, comes back for 9 games and then quits on the team just because? :lol makes lots of sense.

[gambit1990]

if parker really is part of the reason for kawhi not wanting to be in sa then we especially shoulda gotten rid of tony years ago like i had said :lol

[baseline bum]

You know things are all fucked up when ducks is propping LeBron.

[YGWHI]

Believing Parker is the reason why Kawhi is leaving the spurs is like believing a 20 year old model who divorced her 60 year old husband because in her words she felt that her husband took her for granted. In both cases we knew ahead of the time the relationship was never going to work out long term.

No one believes Parker is THE reason..People who criticize his comments think those comments didn't help to fix issues between Spurs and Kawhi.

[coachmac87]

I've said many times since March...It doesn't matter why he said that. If a team lets frustration makes them to say in public things they shouldn't..It's not a smart decision.

Just imagine if Adams starts to call PG13 out because he disappears in crucial games last season in front of media...Do you think it's the best moment to do it?

Or a LBJ teammate says that LeBron manipulated the franchise and the locker room, that he asked FO to fire Blatt and not trade RC/Thompson?
You could think that what he's saying is true but this is it the best time to do it while the Cavs wants to keep their franchise player? No.

Like it or not, Pop, Parker and Manu's comments weren't fine.

He wanted out before MARCH!!!! Why tho?

[Marcus Bryant]

Only reason the Spurs give Leonard any kind of extension is to maintain control and eventually move him for a better return. Frankly at this point it's in the best interest of both sides for Leonard to be extended and come back and show the league that he is indeed '100% healthy' next season.

[JPB]

Because we have 200 fans here posting about that.

I want to be the other voice, the other point of view.

About Kawhi's camp, I've already said they're newbie and unprofessional...But a greedy uncle doesn't make those Parker & Co comments be right.


There's no other side in this story, kid. Not even in your naive, fantasy Teletubbies world where Parker's or anybody's comments would have anything to do with the move Kawhito and Penis are pulling.

This is a basic, one face, one dimension story.
This isn't Kindergarten, son. Shit 10x worse happesn in every locker room in every team. People clashing, even fighting but they're pro and don't give a shit in a vacuum.
Jordan punched Kerr in practice once. Do you think Kerr went crying and ask for a trade ? No, He man upped and got respect for that.

When 200 dudes who can see an elephant's ass in a room when all you see is Mary Poppins's pussy, it's not the 200 dudes who should rub their eyes.

So STFU now with your "my Kawhi got his feelings hurt" ridiculous crap. You're wasting bandwith and annoying anybody hashing and rehashing te same clueless pablum like a boring broken disk.

Anyway, you're probably just trolling. I hope for you.

[coachmac87]

Dumbest shit I've ever read. :lol. So Kawhi is beasting in the play-offs, gets injured, rehabs, comes back for 9 games and then quits on the team just because? :lol makes lots of sense.

Then why did he want out in January? Why did he already have his sights on LA?? It was premeditated murder bro..

Once Kawhi became an established top 5 player he didn’t need the Spurs anymore..why cut the cord so quick on the PATFO when they were with you since Day 1...won a title helped you become who you are.

He bailed on them..we don’t really know why cause he doesn’t have the balls to say so. He’s not having fun, I guess lol.

[Perry Mason]

if parker really is part of the reason for kawhi not wanting to be in sa then we especially shoulda gotten rid of tony years ago like i had said :lol

Yes. Because apparently Kawhi and players like him are 13 years old, so when they get their feelings hurt they shirk all their professional responsibilities, act like social autistics and close all communication.

Scratch that. 13-year olds actually kiss and make up after fighting the previous day.

Reality is that the team is not perfect, and grew frustrated by Kawhi's oppressive and unintuitive silence. I definitely buy the "it's not fun" rumor regarding Kawhi. He's an underdeveloped millennial, with father issues not of his own fault. But he's not getting good advice, and he's a fool if he thinks a change of scenery means a more comfortable social dynamic on a team. He needs to see the change has to largely come within him. I'm sure Tony, Manu, Patty, whomever, would have gladly brought Kawhi into their social circles if he showed any interest.

But anyway, the Tony comment thing is middle-school level logic; not surprising from the helmet crowd here though. Tony is still a legend (no legend is perfect...) and your hate is like a fart in the wind.

[YGWHI]

He wanted out before MARCH!!!! Why tho?
Of course you know that.

[offset formation]

You know things are all fucked up when ducks is propping LeBron.

I was truly interested in his response to the hypothetical DNC offer that someone asked him about. A positive answer there would have been even more unexpected.

[sammy]

But why did Parker say what he said? Why take it there??

The guy who’s RUPTURED HIS QUAD tendon and played within 6 months called out a guy who’s quad is sore with calcium build up or whatever you wanna call it lol...still hasn’t played and not only that LEFT the team and was not keeping his teammates in the loop. They’re busting their ass trying to stay alive and all they wanted to know was if he was coming back...Kawhi missed his own deadline to return and they wanted to know what’s up...,the worst part. He couldn’t or wouldn’t give them an answer and left he team again...

You’re a Top 5 player in the league...If KD, LeBron or anybody else pulled this stunt they’d be getting obliterated...only reason why Kawhi didn’t is because they the media knew before all this he had Lakers in his sight..

That’s the most fucked up part...he wanted out before all of this and then used his injury and frustration against PATFO to make them not the understanding ones..while paying him max salary meanwhile taking away all their control. Spurs tried to play ball but it didn’t work because it was NEVER gonna work.

It would’ve been hard for Kawhi and their camp to play their card if he played and Spurs won 60 games again..they couldn’t take that risk..so miss the season stay healthy and watch the team go down In flames

Great take! Totally agree!

[coachmac87]

Of course you know that.

No I don’t..please enlighten me

[YGWHI]

There's no other side in this story, kid...

This is a basic, one face, one dimension story...

There is never just one side of a story...I'm not obtuse to think that.


This isn't Kindergarten, son. Shit 10x worse happesn in every locker room in every team. People clashing, even fighting but they're pro and don't give a shit in a vacuum.
Jordan punched Kerr in practice once. Do you think Kerr went crying and ask for a trade ? No, He man upped and got respect for that.
I feel sorry for you if you really think this is how today NBA works for players, media, agents...

[cd98]

Is Kawhi tradeable if he gets the Supermax? I mean, he has to be Jordanesque with that kind of money or he's not worth near that kind of cap killing money over 5 years.

[daslicer]

Spurs locker room is very tame compared to other NBA locker rooms. Even in the Warriors locker room there have been confrontations with Draymond and just about everybody on that team. For Kawhi to not be able to handle what Manu and Tony said and to get his feelings hurt is lame. He's going to be in a world of pain when he's in a real NBA locker room and have to deal with strong personalities clashing with him.

[DPG21920]

Is Kawhi tradeable if he gets the Supermax? I mean, he has to be Jordanesque with that kind of money or he's not worth near that kind of cap killing money over 5 years.

If he doesn’t suffer an injury, for sure. Easily.

[cd98]

If he doesn’t suffer an injury, for sure. Easily.

My guess is the Spurs aren't convinced. I'm guessing that if the Spurs offered the super max, the family would come together and bury the hatchet.

[MoSpur02]

Would be crazy of Kawhi and Spurs agreed to an extension on his birthday or if he were traded on his birthday.

[picnroll]

Dumbest shit I've ever read. :lol. So Kawhi is beasting in the play-offs, gets injured, rehabs, comes back for 9 games and then quits on the team just because? :lol makes lots of sense.

Leonard goes into the playoffs no hamstring issues just sprained ankle, sprains his ankle again, misses rest of the playoffs because of sprained, goes to China, comes back to the Spurs training camp with hamstring issues, can’t play. If anybody fucked up it was he and HIS GROUP in the off season.

[Mugen]

If he doesn’t suffer an injury, for sure. Easily.

Deep, do you think that the Spurs believe Kawhi is a 100% healthy?

[DPG21920]

Deep, do you think that the Spurs believe Kawhi is a 100% healthy?

I do. I believe they would not have cleared him otherwise.

[Seventyniner]

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:lmao

[jjktkk]

Who knows but I'm pretty sure that Kawhi or any other franchise he will ask for a trade if an old teammate calling him out in front of media and the team keeps the vet instead of supporting the franchise player.

No, most NBA players would hash it out man to man, not demand a trade. Just another lame excuse from Leonard and his supporters.

[DPG21920]

My guess is the Spurs aren't convinced. I'm guessing that if the Spurs offered the super max, the family would come together and bury the hatchet.

SA not offering SM has nothing to do with health. If SA believes that a SM offer would be accepted, I think they will try to trade him and keep that in their back pocket in the event they can’t get a good offer. But I think SA is over Kawhi and even if they want to keep him would be hesitate to offer that contract now. But nothing to do with health.

[YGWHI]

No I don’t..please enlighten me
Is this the part I will tell you he would have signed a supermax deal if the Spurs would have offered him?...That Jabari Young and Shams said his camp was ready to do it just a few weeks ago..Then Spurs denied his camp the deal and Woj wrote the Spurs were a long way from the supermax offer and that's why his camp asked for a trade...If he would have signed that deal, no trade/ no drama.

I've told you this 100 times...

[exstatic]

Is this the part I will tell you he would have signed a supermax deal if the Spurs would have offered him?...That Jabari Young and Shams said his camp was ready to do it just a few weeks ago..Then Spurs denied his camp the deal and Woj wrote the Spurs were a long way from the supermax offer and that's why his camp asked for a trade...If he would have signed that deal, no trade/ no drama.

I've told you this 100 times...

It's funny that you refer to yourself in the 3rd person, Jabari.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Who knows but I'm pretty sure that Kawhi or any other franchise he will ask for a trade if an old teammate calling him out in front of media and the team keeps the vet instead of supporting the franchise player.

The only reason he got called out was because he wouldn't man up and talk to his teammates about what was going on. Dude was MIA in the locker room, on the bench, etc. Hell, he couldn't even be bothered to call his teammates and tell them what was going on.

He deserved to get called out.

And come on man. Golden State's players have called each other out (looking at Draymond in particular), no one there seemed to mind it when they were getting the call out in the press, yet they're having more fun than SA?

All weak crap.

[YGWHI]

Spurs locker room is very tame compared to other NBA locker rooms. Even in the Warriors locker room there have been confrontations with Draymond and just about everybody on that team. For Kawhi to not be able to handle what Manu and Tony said and to get his feelings hurt is lame. He's going to be in a world of pain when he's in a real NBA locker room and have to deal with strong personalities clashing with him.

Maybe, maybe not. After knowing what happened to the Spurs, I think his next coach/teammates would be very careful about the way they treat him if they want him to stay after 1 year rental.

[coachmac87]

Is this the part I will tell you he would have signed a supermax deal if the Spurs would have offered him?...That Jabari Young and Shams said his camp was ready to do it just a few weeks ago..Then Spurs denied his camp the deal and Woj wrote the Spurs were a long way from the supermax offer and that's why his camp asked for a trade...If he would have signed that deal, no trade/ no drama.

I've told you this 100 times...



Oh so since he didn’t get his Christmas present from the Spurs (Supermax)?

[Dex]

The only reason he got called out was because he wouldn't man up and talk to his teammates about what was going on. Dude was MIA in the locker room, on the bench, etc. Hell, he couldn't even be bothered to call his teammates and tell them what was going on.

He deserved to get called out.

And come on man. Golden State's players have called each other out (looking at Draymond in particular), no one there seemed to mind it when they were getting the call out in the press, yet they're having more fun than SA?

All weak crap.

Agreed. Kawhi is allowed to feel slighted by Parker's comments, but reacting like this is just weak minded shit.

Also, Jalen Rose called that Kawhi wanted out of San Antonio and had his sights set on L.A. well before Pop and Parker's comments or the players only meeting. At the time it was quickly dismissed but...well, here we are, so it's hard to believe that Jalen didn't really have his finger on the pulse.

Kawhi is just using those as an excuse to paint the Spurs as the bad guy here.

[gambit1990]

But anyway, the Tony comment thing is middle-school level logic; not surprising from the helmet crowd here though.
report said kawhi was irate with tony’s comment.

[FvckMavs]

It's funny that you refer to yourself in the 3rd person, Jabari.

:lol

[soxxx]

I would tell the Lakers I want their 2020, 2022, 2024, first round draft picks.

The end, the have a crap ton of pressure right now to get Kawhi Leonard if they want Lebron James. If they had Kawhi right now, Lebron would already be agreeing to go there.

[YGWHI]

No, most NBA players would hash it out man to man, not demand a trade. Just another lame excuse from Leonard and his supporters.

Because Kawhi or any other franchise player wants teammates hating on him...Yeah, that's an ideal situation

[BSfromTX]

I've said many times since March...It doesn't matter why he said that. If a team lets frustration makes them to say in public things they shouldn't..It's not a smart decision.

Just imagine if Adams starts to call PG13 out because he disappears in crucial games last season in front of media...Do you think it's the best moment to do it?

Or a LBJ teammate says that LeBron manipulated the franchise and the locker room, that he asked FO to fire Blatt and not trade RC/Thompson?
You could think that what he's saying is true but this is it the best time to do it while the Cavs wants to keep their franchise player? No.

Like it or not, Pop, Parker and Manu's comments weren't fine.


Sorry man, but you are reaching. If kawhi wants to be in SA he doesn’t let that be an issue. Parker knew he was bailing and called him out, but that really doesn’t matter anyway. If kawhi wants to be in sa then he stays. No player in the league is that sensitive.

[YGWHI]

Oh so since he didn’t get his Christmas present from the Spurs (Supermax)?
Then I'll say why a superstar wants to stay in SA if...

-he doesn't get the supermax
-Pop will retire in next 1-2 years
-Spurs' roster is LMA + a bunch of non-shooters & TP Manu Pau old guys.

We've already seen this movie, bro. Stop asking me the same things over and over

[daslicer]

Maybe, maybe not. After knowing what happened to the Spurs, I think his next coach/teammates would be very careful about the way they treat him if they want him to stay after 1 year rental.

Confrontations happen in a locker room and they are not always avoidable. They can happen in the heat of the moment. I remember Duncan and Tony Parker cursing out each other during a time out of the '04 playoffs in the infamous .4 game. Go watch that game and you'll see it. Both guys cursed each other out and then afterwards like grown men they let it go. Mario Elie called David Robinson and Duncan soft back in the day. I remember Duncan and Robinson responding to his comments and saying it was bs. Hell Duncan got into a confrontation with Elie during a practice in which they both said heated things to each other but afterwards became the best of friends. Lebron and Mario Chalmers went at it quite a bit in Miami. Jordan and BJ Armstrong clashed with each other during the early '90's during games. Regardless of era it's rare your going to find a locker room that has always been perfect without any confrontations. Shit like that happens they are all grown men.

[DPG21920]

Because Kawhi or any other franchise player wants teammates hating on him...Yeah, that's an ideal situation

:lol Hating on him. Or did TP just answer a DIRECT question about his injury compared to Kawhis.

[Russ]

Because Kawhi or any other franchise player wants teammates hating on him...Yeah, that's an ideal situation

TP wasn't hating on Kawhi, he was trying to help him.

Tough love.

Trying to get him to look in the mirror so he could see himself and save himself.

An intervention, if you will.

Now, it's too late, I'm afraid, for Kawhi. Too bad but we all have to move on . . .

[Spurs9]

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[YGWHI]

Parker's injury was 100 times worse...he played.
Parker playing like shit all season just made Kawhi's point.

A quad injury is enough serious to be extremely cautious and not playing until full recovery.

Who would blame Kawhi because he didn't want to risk his body and end like Parker.

[Seventyniner]

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I'm guessing LAC, even though their best offer isn't very good.

[Extra Stout]

August 2017:
Kawhi’s Group: Hey, let’s talk contract extension! Kawhi is eligible for the supermax!
Spurs: Umm, we’ll see. We’ll offer more than any other team can... but you know, Tim used to take less so we’d have flexibility to add other pieces, plus we’re a small-market team...
Kawhi: Da fuq? I’m a Top 3 player! Does Steph Curry get nickel-and-dimed? James Harden? Westbrook? LeBron? Am I worth less to you than they are? Are Oklahoma City and Cleveland large markets? What does Tim have to do with this?
Spurs: We’ll keep in touch.

September 2017:
LeBron: Sup Kawhi
Kawhi: What it do
LeBron: I was thinking it would be cool to play in L.A.
Kawhi: Yah
LeBron: Me and PG13 will be free agents in 2018. You?
Kawhi: 2019.
LeBron: Damn shame. It would be fun as hell, you could do your thing, with me there you could fly under the radar but still get the hardware like KD. Close to home... SA is a faaar cry from L.A.
Kawhi: True dat
LeBron: But oh well, you’re under contract, and I bet the Spurs would trade you for a warm Karl before sending you to L.A., right?
Kawhi: Yeah
LeBron: Too bad. Gotta be true to yourself, right? Aight, peace. Gotta run.
Kawhi: Peace out.

Kawhi: Fuck it, I wanna play in L.A. Fuck the Spurs, they don’t respect me. They wanna nickel-and-dime me. If I’m gonna take less, I’ma play where I want.

[YGWHI]

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Well, the Suns Kings and Mavs drafted the guys that PATFO loved...

[Spurs9]

I'm guessing LAC, even though their best offer isn't very good.

I dont consider Tobias + picks better than a package with Ingram/Kuzma/Picks. Maybe Portland or Min? Hopefully Suns though with all the assets they have.

[Dex]

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I mean...I have a hard time believe a guy with "shatz" in his name, but it's definitely a good sign if there is any whiff of truth to this. A bidding war will only drive up the return the Spurs can get, so the more the merrier.

[exstatic]

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I'd LOL if it were Sacramento....and LeBron and PG13 or Cousins sign in LA...and there's ONLY $99M, cumulative for his contract, left next summer.

[K...]

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Does this make everyone real horny?

[exstatic]

Parker playing like shit all season just made Kawhi's point.

A quad injury is enough serious to be extremely cautious and not playing until full recovery.

Who would blame Kawhi because he didn't want to risk his body and end like Parker.

Right. Four rings, and 17 years with one franchise. What a turrible fate.

[MoSpur02]

The longer this goes on the more I think the Spurs and Kawhi will come to an agreement on him playing for the Spurs.

[Spurs9]

I mean...I have a hard time believe a guy with "shatz" in his name, but it's definitely a good sign if there is any whiff of truth to this. A bidding war will only drive up the return the Spurs can get, so the more the merrier.

Apparently he mentioned KD to GS before he went, take it with a grain of salt, all these dudes are just trying to be TMZ twitter famous.

[Seventyniner]

I dont consider Tobias + picks better than a package with Ingram/Kuzma/Picks. Maybe Portland or Min? Hopefully Suns though with all the assets they have.

Maybe the Lakers haven't made that offer yet. Hell, maybe the Clippers are the only West team that has made an offer at all, so they could be leading by default. Not that the Spurs would take it.

[gambit1990]

:lol Hating on him. Or did TP just answer a DIRECT question about his injury compared to Kawhis.
:lmao

the question wasn't "tony, was your quad injury 100 times worse than kawhi's?" nor was it "can you compare your injury to kawhi's?" like you just implied :lol

the question was: "what’s the general message you guys have for kawhi?" :lol

[baseline bum]

Agreed. Kawhi is allowed to feel slighted by Parker's comments, but reacting like this is just weak minded shit.

Also, Jalen Rose called that Kawhi wanted out of San Antonio and had his sights set on L.A. well before Pop and Parker's comments or the players only meeting. At the time it was quickly dismissed but...well, here we are, so it's hard to believe that Jalen didn't really have his finger on the pulse.

Kawhi is just using those as an excuse to paint the Spurs as the bad guy here.

Yeah Jalen reported Leonard wanted out back in January.

[Marcus Bryant]

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In a surprise twist it was the Spurs who had the better offer, as he was already under contract. Mind. Blown.

[NASpurs]

Does this make everyone real horny?

Only way it would make me hornier if this was tweeted by Big Mona herself.

[YGWHI]

:lol Hating on him. Or did TP just answer a DIRECT question about his injury compared to Kawhis.
Yeah...This is exactly what Parker did =>blue font.

He could say "every body reacts different, we support him and wish him a fully recovery"...Being polite in front media isn't that hard. Like Patty, today.

No one forced TP to say what he said, he opted to question a teammate injury, he had other options. Smarter options.

[Spurs9]

Maybe the Lakers haven't made that offer yet. Hell, maybe the Clippers are the only West team that has made an offer at all, so they could be leading by default. Not that the Spurs would take it.

There was a report about what the baseline for either team they would be willing continuing the talks, and it was around Ingram/Kuzma + picks. Who knows if that report is even accurate. If the Lakers are shopping Ball for a pick they believe thats what it takes to get the deal. They wouldn't just trade him away otherwise. We can be pretty skeptical of any reports coming out right now.

[Marcus Bryant]

Yeah Jalen reported Leonard wanted out back in January.

Exactly. Some here have forgotten or are intentionally fucking up the timeline.

[Marcus Bryant]

Trade his ass to Sacto.
Trade his ass to Sacto.
Do it now.

[YGWHI]

Right. Four rings, and 17 years with one franchise. What a turrible fate.
Because we're talking about 2007 Parker??? We're talking about the guy that looked done the whole last season. No one player in the NBA wants to end like him after a quad injury.

[NASpurs]

According to this reddit thread, Dan Lifeshit has some cred

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8uvtya/dan_lifshatz_has_been_right_about_some_things/

[Mugen]

Sacramento has nothing to offer since they wasted the #2 pick.

[YGWHI]

Yeah Jalen reported Leonard wanted out back in January.
Just because the rumors about the Spurs were mishandling his injury started before.

[Marcus Bryant]

The source of this rumor is probably just Pop and RC messing with the Lakers.

[MoSpur02]

Exactly. Some here have forgotten or are intentionally fucking up the timeline.

Exactly. I created a thread before the deadline that Kawhi would be traded. It got removed for whatever reason, but back then there were problems, but yeah blame it on Parker's, Manu's, and Pop's comments.

[Marcus Bryant]

tSwNwf2VHnw

[Jules_Winnfield]

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Will Australian poster strike again??

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=452278

[Hoops Czar]

According to this reddit, Dan Lifeshit has some cred

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8uvtya/dan_lifshatz_has_been_right_about_some_things/

Look at you, out here investigating shit. Thanks man.

[baseline bum]

Just because the rumors about the Spurs were mishandling his injury started before.

His own doctors were mishandling his injury in January.

[NASpurs]

Look at you, out here investigating shit. Thanks man.

I'm just trying to make this shit easier on everyone else. Idc if I get downvoted. I can vouch for this guy because I remember him breaking news before it happened and he is confident about it.

[YGWHI]

:lol If Pop is the reason why guys don't want to stay in SA then why wouldn't things get better after he retires? The real truth is SA is a small market like Indiana,Utah and will always have trouble getting a big time FA because guys simply don't want to be in small market. Even Lebron had a hard time recruiting guys to come play with him during his first stint in Cleveland. That's why he left to Miami.

I guess the Spurs have respect for their winning culture, Tim and Pop.

Tim's gone, Pop'll retire soon, they're not a contender after losing their franchise player...I want to stay optimistic but I guess things get worse without Pop.

[TVI]

Exactly. Some here have forgotten or are intentionally fucking up the timeline.
The second...because reality is inconvenient and doesn't support the position they've embraced, which is, the Spurs screwed Kawhi. Nothing that contradicts that sacred cow will be considered...nay, it must be mocked and derided so as to maintain the illusion. Psychologists call this cognitive dissonance...Sounds so familiar...hmm...where have we seen this before...

[BatManu20]

If true, Sacramento and Portland are the only teams I think it might realistically be.

[BatManu20]

Any reason Kawhi would be going to Boston?



https://i.imgur.com/de20OnZ.jpg

[YGWHI]

His own doctors were mishandling his injury in January.
Coulld be. But the rumors about Spurs' doctors misdiagnosis started before.

[YGWHI]

If true, Sacramento and Portland are the only teams I think it might realistically be.

And Suns

[exstatic]

Because we're talking about 2007 Parker??? We're talking about the guy that looked done the whole last season. No one player in the NBA wants to end like him after a quad injury.

He had 17 great years and four rings, and any discounts that he gave the Spurs early were made good with his 3/$45M contract on the back end. Most players would kill for a timeline and career like that.

[Mugen]

Any reason Kawhi would be going to Boston?



https://i.imgur.com/de20OnZ.jpg

:lol Is that even Kawhi?

If so, fuck yeah let's do it.

[lmbebo]

His own doctors were mishandling his injury in January.

sounds like he was being mishandled by his own doctors since last August if not longer....


If west team is Sacto - Would like Bagley.. They've got some nice pieces.

[exstatic]

Coulld be. But the rumors about Spurs' doctors misdiagnosis started before.

His doctors were 'driving' by August, and any games he played were after that, with their OK. Just another fact that gets lost, like him wanting out in January.

[Hoops Czar]

Yeah Jalen reported Leonard wanted out back in January.
Jalen see-saws a lot. He also came out the very next day and rebuffed his own comment on first take.

[BatManu20]

And Suns


Who would they realistically give up though? For a potential 1-year rental? I doubt they offer Jackson for that.

[Hoops Czar]

Any reason Kawhi would be going to Boston?



https://i.imgur.com/de20OnZ.jpg
That could literally be any black dude.

[lmbebo]

Rich Bucher just said on NBA Radio that Spurs are looking for a top 20 player in return.

[BatManu20]

Jalen see-saws a lot. He also came out the very next day and rebuffed his own comment on first take.

Don’t remember the rebuffing, but Stephen A. Smith backed up Jalen’s comments on First Take the next day as well. Said he was hearing the same thing. Obviously there was some truth to it.

[Spurs da champs]

Portland has nothing of interest, tbh.

[Jules_Winnfield]

Dallas or Denver maybe

[Marcus Bryant]

Rich Bucher just said on NBA Radio that Spurs are looking for a top 20 player in return.

:lol Sorry Majik.

[look_at_g_shred]

Portland? Only guy i'm in love with there is CJ and Harkless

[look_at_g_shred]

Rich Bucher just said on NBA Radio that Spurs are looking for a top 20 player in return.
:sleep

[Spurs9]

:lol Is that even Kawhi?

If so, fuck yeah let's do it.

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[YGWHI]

He had 17 great years and four rings, and any discounts that he gave the Spurs early were made good with his 3/$45M contract on the back end. Most players would kill for a timeline and career like that.
You already know we're talking about quad's injuries here not his career. But if you can't realize that...I can't help.

[MoSpur02]

That pic looks photoshopped.

[exstatic]

You already know we're talking about quad's injuries here not his career. But if you can't realize that...I can't help.

You said "end up like Tony". I simply pointed out that Tony didn't end up so badly. But if you can't realize that...I can't help.

[BackHome]

Why the fuck you keep talking about Tony?

[lmbebo]

:sleep

Just appreciate that Bucher just called out Kawhi as a malignerer. And believes that Kawhi created all this and the health stuff as we all suspected is an excuse to force his way out.

That for all the ailments Kawhi has had over the years, he's never called out the Spurs or the Spurs staff over the years.

[RsxPiimp]

Any reason Kawhi would be going to Boston?



https://i.imgur.com/de20OnZ.jpg

connecting flight to philly

[SAntonio!]

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Looks like it might be the Suns. Suns beat writer says “big” Suns trade coming..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/suns-rumors-big-trade-coming-for-phoenix/amp/

[YGWHI]

Who would they realistically give up though? For a potential 1-year rental? I doubt they offer Jackson for that.

We're talking about a desperate franchise that drafted Alex Len as top 5 pick just a few years ago...Who knows if they think they failed scouting talent and developing young players.

[Jules_Winnfield]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BknL94Kglj8/?taken-by=leyafalcon

[YGWHI]

Looks lik it might be the Suns. Suns beat writer says “big” Suns trade coming..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/suns-rumors-big-trade-coming-for-phoenix/amp/

I told y'all

[SAntonio!]

I told y'all

It could just be a precursor to a kawhi deal. Ball to PHX for picks which LA would then flip to us..

[Killakobe81]

IF he is not coming to L.A.
PHX is as good a place as any ... he will not stay there ... We keep Ingram yall get the JJ poo-poo platter (but also a picks) and everybody wins.

[look_at_g_shred]

Looks like it might be the Suns. Suns beat writer says “big” Suns trade coming..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/suns-rumors-big-trade-coming-for-phoenix/amp/
That article was from yesterday and about 60 pages back in this thread

[YGWHI]

You said "end up like Tony". I simply pointed out that Tony didn't end up so badly. But if you can't realize that...I can't help.
I also posted this, too "no one player in the NBA wants to end like Parker after a quad injury" If you can't read properly...I can't help.

[BackHome]

Again what is your facination with Tony?

[exstatic]

It could just be a precursor to a kawhi deal. Ball to PHX for picks which LA would then flip to us..

LOLnzo for picks isn't a big trade.

[Clipper Nation]

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Logo SZN.

[SAntonio!]

LOLnzo for picks isn't a big trade.


How is that not a big trade? I’m sure there would be more moving parts as well..