Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[DPG21920]

Not happening. The only way that happens is if Kawhi cuts ties with the group and that essentially means cutting ties with family.

The group has drawn their line in the sand and they can't back down now or risk losing the whole operation. They don't give a damn about what's best for Kawhi tbh.

Agreed. They would be effectively neutered if Kawhi ends up signing with SA. Maybe, if it’s for the SuperMax they can claim a win and that it was all part of tough negotiations for a large deal, but anything less than SuperMax would be the end of their nba venture.

[RD2191]

Collin calling Pop a bully :lol

[DPG21920]

They found a way to agree to an extension in SA before. Money talks.

That was before Kawhi had truly ascended and before their new venture took hold.

[YGWHI]

Sadly, I think about Kawhi and this situation more than anything this past 1.5 weeks.

My girl says I'm an emotionalless guy, she doesn't know a shit...I'm on a roller coaster of emotions and mixed feelings since June.

[DPG21920]

His agent is just a random guy. The Spurs have issues with his family, esp with his uncle but he's not the only one. Like Mugen said "The only way that happens is if Kawhi cuts ties with the group and that essentially means cutting ties with family"...Kawhi won't do it.

It’s just the Uncle. The agent has made it worse so there is a problem there but family wise? It’s only the Uncle. SA has welcomed and embraced and taken care of Kawhi’s mom. His sister has been a big part of the Kawhi/SA pairing. Its only Dennis the Menace.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Can someone just beat the fuck out of uncle Dennis tbh?

Wouldn't a LaVar Ball / Dennis Robertson 'Celebrity Death Match' be pretty fucking great? Let those 2 clown shoes beat each other up for our enjoyment.

[DPG21920]

Collin calling Pop a bully :lol

What?

[RD2191]

"Freedom from tyranny" :lmao

[dbestpro]

Wouldn't a LaVar Ball / Dennis Robertson 'Celebrity Death Match' be pretty fucking great? Let those 2 clown shoes beat each other up for our enjoyment.

They could each be armed with a chancla.

[RD2191]

What?

Cowherd on his show

[RD2191]

Wouldn't a LaVar Ball / Dennis Robertson 'Celebrity Death Match' be pretty fucking great? Let those 2 clown shoes beat each other up for our enjoyment.

I'd pay good money to see that :lol

[Mugen]

As many people have said on the board, the Pop is a "bully", "slave master", "holding him hostage" narrative is the last card that the group can play. It's no surprise that retards like Cowherd are starting to spout that bullshit, then it'll be Sreamin A, then it'll be a toned down version from Windhorst, Lowe, other ESPN talking heads tbh....

I'm actually pretty surprised that Pop and RC haven't caved yet but as soon as that becomes a "normal" narrative/question to debate, then it's over and he'll be traded for peanuts to the Lakers or Clippers.

[LkrFan]

I've heard Boban lost some weight and can probably start at the 3 tbh.

He'll be a good replacement for Kiwi :lol

[DPG21920]

He'll be a good replacement for Kiwi :lol

Like McGee is a good replacement for Randle :lol

[Mugen]

He'll be a good replacement for Kiwi :lol

Yes, you got the joke. Here's a cookie.

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8zjLj7NaWo

Probably already posted, but you know...

Kawhi wants out because he's a "free thinker"

New spin is Kawhi's bad endorsements are PATFO.

Saying just ignoring training camp or a physical if traded somewhere you don't wish to go is a reasonable option for KL. Good lord.

Amazing, to watch them pile them on.

[Mugen]

The good thing is that I think along with the "slave master" narrative the group will propagate soon, you'll also hear them soften their stance on "Lakers" only. The Jabari stuff about Philly, Shams/Carter talking about Philly, etc...

Maybe one of the East teams bites and believes him and the Spurs still get a reasonable return.

I think there's definitely some truth to the reservations about the Lakers/LeBron. LeBron will get all of the credit for their success and none of the blame and whatever brand ceiling they think he has will be stunted playing next to James. It also doesn't hurt that the Lakers probably made the worst FA signings possible after signing Bron and have pretty much indirectly told Kawhi that we don't think you are good enough to trade a fucking retard like Brandon Ingram for you :lol

[SpursDynasty85]

The good thing is that I think along with the "slave master" narrative the group will propagate soon, you'll also hear them soften their stance on "Lakers" only. The Jabari stuff about Philly, Shams/Carter talking about Philly, etc...

Maybe one of the East teams bites and believes him and the Spurs still get a reasonable return.

I think there's definitely some truth to the reservations about the Lakers/LeBron. LeBron will get all of the credit for their success and none of the blame and whatever brand ceiling they think he has will be stunted playing next to James. It also doesn't hurt that the Lakers probably made the worst FA signings possible after signing Bron and have pretty much indirectly told Kawhi that we don't think you are good enough to trade a fucking retard like Brandon Ingram for you :lol

Ideally a sign and trade would workout best for both. Why lose more money?

[Marcus Bryant]

As many people have said on the board, the Pop is a "bully", "slave master", "holding him hostage" narrative is the last card that the group can play. It's no surprise that retards like Cowherd are starting to spout that bullshit, then it'll be Sreamin A, then it'll be a toned down version from Windhorst, Lowe, other ESPN talking heads tbh....

I'm actually pretty surprised that Pop and RC haven't caved yet but as soon as that becomes a "normal" narrative/question to debate, then it's over and he'll be traded for peanuts to the Lakers or Clippers.

At this point they don't care. 25 years of history says otherwise anyways. Pop doesn't strike me as an individual who gives a fuck what other people say, especially now.

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Cowherd on his show

And so it has been written, and so it shall be...

The hardball phase likely has begun.

[BatManu20]

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[DPG21920]

Kawhi needs to freaking speak up and tell the Spurs there are a few teams he will sign with. If he does that, it should get the Spurs something good.

Have to hope LA is pissing Kawhi enough to where he expands his list of teams and guys like Woj/Shams report that he has expanded his list.

[sasaint]

The good thing is that I think along with the "slave master" narrative the group will propagate soon, you'll also hear them soften their stance on "Lakers" only. The Jabari stuff about Philly, Shams/Carter talking about Philly, etc...

Maybe one of the East teams bites and believes him and the Spurs still get a reasonable return.

I think there's definitely some truth to the reservations about the Lakers/LeBron. LeBron will get all of the credit for their success and none of the blame and whatever brand ceiling they think he has will be stunted playing next to James. It also doesn't hurt that the Lakers probably made the worst FA signings possible after signing Bron and have pretty much indirectly told Kawhi that we don't think you are good enough to trade a fucking retard like Brandon Ingram for you :lol

Where would he hear that? That's not a narrative he will hear from his group.

[YGWHI]

Spurs dont want their relationship to crumble but I'm sure all they want is Uncle Denbis to stay out of the Spurs/Kawhi business which is not unreasonable.

I gues it's unreasonable from Kawhi's perspective.

His uncle is his father figure, he was close to him and his mom after his dad died, he helped Kawhi when Kawhi was a nobody...It's not that hard to understand that Kawhi feels he owes his uncle.

Doesn't matter what some fans think here, Kawhi's not stupid. It's likely he already knows he's paying a high price for keeping his uncle on his group, at the same time he could think that most people will forget about this weird episode of his career if he has a great season again on some East/West team.

[BatManu20]

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[Mugen]

Ideally a sign and trade would workout best for both. Why lose more money?

I doubt whatever team trades for him will commit long term money before he sets foot on the court next season and shows he's still a top 5 player. I think the only team that would even consider him giving him a long-term extension would be the Spurs and it's probably significantly less than the 219mil he could have made.


At this point they don't care. 25 years of history says otherwise anyways. Pop doesn't strike me as an individual who gives a fuck what other people say, especially now.

Maybe, maybe not. I think they very much care about their reputation around the league/public. It's survived the barrage of teardown attempts from Kawhis camp and ESPN but I doubt they'd stay silent or not make a move if that becomes a topic of discussion during this saga tbh.

[Marcus Bryant]

Ideally a sign and trade would workout best for both. Why lose more money?

Because Uncle D's experience is being a retail banker at Wells Fargo. That alone should tell anyone what they need to know, tbh. The actual 'agent' is experienced in representing NFL players, so of course there's threats of a continued holdout. These guys are in over their heads, yet think they have it all figured out (a common theme in American society).

[BatManu20]

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[SpursDynasty85]

I gues it's unreasonable from Kawhi's perspective.

His uncle is his father figure, he was close to him and his mom after his dad died, he helped Kawhi when Kawhi was a nobody...It's not that hard to understand that Kawhi feels he owes his uncle.

Doesn't matter what some fans think here, Kawhi's not stupid. It's likely he already knows he's paying a high price for keeping his uncle on his group, at the same time he could think that most people will forget about this weird episode of his career if he has a great season again on some East/West team.

At the same time I think if uncle Dennis becomes reasonable and stops playing dirty tricks it is still repairable. I still hold still all these dirty tactics and greed is stemming from the agency and agent. Uncle Dennis is following their lead and Kawhi following uncle.

[Joseph Kony]

Cris Carter is such a fucking faggot. Why the fuck does anyone care what some washed up football hack has to say about basketball? fuck off you goofy eyed twat

[Spurs da champs]

Pop and Belicheck types are being bullied into retirement tbh, their approach doesn't fit with these times.

[sasaint]

Because Uncle D's experience is being a retail banker at Wells Fargo. That alone should tell anyone what they need to know, tbh. The actual 'agent' is experienced in representing NFL players, so of course there's threats of a continued holdout. These guys are in over their heads, yet think they have it all figured out (a common theme in American society).

Dude, this stuff is easy. Doesn't your car have a trunk?

[Mugen]

It's been said many times this thread, but it really can't be overstated enough how fucking dumb his group has played this and how badly they've fucked things up for Kawhi.

Even if their end goal was to end up playing in Los Angeles or another big market, they could have easily done so with Kawhi having a shitton more money and an intact reputation :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

Maybe, maybe not. I think they very much care about their reputation around the league/public. It's survived the barrage of teardown attempts from Kawhis camp and ESPN but I doubt they'd stay silent or not make a move if that becomes a topic of discussion during this saga tbh.

What Leonard's group has going for them is fatigue. At some point the temptation to deal him to Milwaukee and be rid of the drama will be great. If the group persists, they will have left tens of million$ on the table and frankly will have destroyed Leonard's rep in the league. How many other NBA players have played for teams they didn't want to because they had a contract to honor? Leonard's complaints are laughable. Wait until you're a free agent and go where you want, what's the problem? Also now that it's clear the injury was an excuse to holdout, man, that's not a rep any player should ever want.

[LkrFan]

Yes, you got the joke. Here's a cookie.

:lol

[Marcus Bryant]

Cris Carter is such a fucking faggot. Why the fuck does anyone care what some washed up football hack has to say about basketball? fuck off you goofy eyed twat

:tu tbh

[LkrFan]

Like McGee is a good replacement for Randle :lol

:cry :lmao :cry

[Mugen]

What Leonard's group has going for them is fatigue. At some point the temptation to deal him to Milwaukee and be rid of the drama will be great. If the group persists, they will have left tens of million$ on the table and frankly will have destroyed Leonard's rep in the league. How many other NBA players have played for teams they didn't want to because they had a contract to honor? Leonard's complaints are laughable. Wait until you're a free agent and go where you want, what's the problem? Also now that it's clear the injury was an excuse to holdout, man, that's not a rep any player should ever want.

:lol I'm with you, MB. See my previous post. That entire operation has been an absolute clown show and they're dangerously close to derailing this kid's career and livelihood.

[BillMc]

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I've come to genuinely hate Chris Carter.

[SpursDynasty85]

I doubt whatever team trades for him will commit long term money before he sets foot on the court next season and shows he's still a top 5 player. I think the only team that would even consider him giving him a long-term extension would be the Spurs and it's probably significantly less than the 219mil he could have made.



Maybe, maybe not. I think they very much care about their reputation around the league/public. It's survived the barrage of teardown attempts from Kawhis camp and ESPN but I doubt they'd stay silent or not make a move if that becomes a topic of discussion during this saga tbh.

It is unquestionable he is top 5 player. The only issue is health and so of course a sign and trade would include a physical and thorough examination of his medical documents. I'm sure hes worth at least a max contract for 4 years.

[sasaint]

At the same time I think if uncle Dennis becomes reasonable and stops playing dirty tricks it is still repairable. I still hold still all these dirty tactics and greed is stemming from the agency and agent. Uncle Dennis is following their lead and Kawhi following uncle.

If that view is correct, then perhaps there is still a chance for a reconciliation. But at some point Kawhi, himself, has to come to the plate. He can't send up pinch-hitters forever.

[cjw]

I doubt whatever team trades for him will commit long term money before he sets foot on the court next season and shows he's still a top 5 player. I think the only team that would even consider him giving him a long-term extension would be the Spurs and it's probably significantly less than the 219mil he could have made.

The extension he can sign right now is far below a max deal if he waits until next summer (which is as everyone knows well below the supermax). That’s why Kawhi won’t sign an extension in a trade. The huge jump in the cap made it possible to get Kawhi on a low salary the past few years and also enabled the Warriors. But it makes it hard to sign in-season extensions nowadays besides the supermax for max players.


Because Uncle D's experience is being a retail banker at Wells Fargo. That alone should tell anyone what they need to know, tbh. The actual 'agent' is experienced in representing NFL players, so of course there's threats of a continued holdout. These guys are in over their heads, yet think they have it all figured out (a common theme in American society).

Retail bankers :lol

Can be among the scum of the earth and least intelligent people out there. They know less about money than 50% of customers. Just glorified used car salesmen.

[RD2191]

Cris Carter is such a fucking faggot. Why the fuck does anyone care what some washed up football hack has to say about basketball? fuck off you goofy eyed twat

:lol tbh

[Ice009]

Cris Carter is such a fucking faggot. Why the fuck does anyone care what some washed up football hack has to say about basketball? fuck off you goofy eyed twat

He claims to have connections with Kawhi and his group through the agency. I think Cris Carter is part of the same agency? Someone correct me if I am wrong on that.

[ohmwrecker]

You can pretty much rely on the opposite of whatever Chris Carter or Stephen A. Smith says is the truth.

[Marcus Bryant]

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:lol :lol Yeah, forget about trying to get more in return. What a fucking assclown.

[sasaint]

What Leonard's group has going for them is fatigue. At some point the temptation to deal him to Milwaukee and be rid of the drama will be great. If the group persists, they will have left tens of million$ on the table and frankly will have destroyed Leonard's rep in the league. How many other NBA players have played for teams they didn't want to because they had a contract to honor? Leonard's complaints are laughable. Wait until you're a free agent and go where you want, what's the problem? Also now that it's clear the injury was an excuse to holdout, man, that's not a rep any player should ever want.

Huh? The Spurs seem to be taking the hit everywhere but on ST. After a few monster games for Philly or the Lakers or whoever next season, the national media will be proclaiming Kawhi a top 5 player and comeback player of the year. And continue to kick dust in the face of the Spurs.

[venitian navigator]

Espn and quite every people that till now has talked about the Kiwhi situation have to be call out in some manner.
I understand that' probably breaking chances to mend the relationship with uncle dennis, but at some point some of the bullshit this people is throwing to the Spurs organization has to end...
Till now the only voice that has said something that could be considered for the Spurs side is Simmons, and his 8/9 doctors thing.
Imho its obvious that all this has been orchestrated since a long time and the main media, all have an interest to provoke a splitting on the Kiwhi/Spurs relationship.

The point that has to be made clear is that the Spurs behavior has always been in the sense of protect the player from any kind of dangerous injury (see the fact we decided to sit him in the conference finals just for a sprained anckle) and having confidence in the player's and his group honesty (see the freedom given in consenting them to find other medical opinions and consenting his reabilitation in N.Y.)...
The other point to make clear is that Kiwhi has became what he was till one year ago in great part because of the Spurs environment, choices and training...and that the relationship with Pop was so good that he is the only person he's still talking with...

The contradictions coming from the Kawhi's group are many and obvious...its time to let them emerge and to èut out the possible conflict of interest between the player and the sociaty thet's acting for him.

[apalisoc_9]

Truth is finally coming out.

Lol at spursfans thinking litterally all media would lie meanwhile believing their beloved PATFO :lmao

Naive spursfans.

[Marcus Bryant]

:lol I'm with you, MB. See my previous post. That entire operation has been an absolute clown show and they're dangerously close to derailing this kid's career and livelihood.

:tu

[BillMc]

Huh? The Spurs seem to be taking the hit everywhere but on ST. After a few monster games for Philly or the Lakers or whoever next season, the national media will be proclaiming Kawhi a top 5 player and comeback player of the year. And continue to kick dust in the face of the Spurs.

Sad but true.


Espn and quite every people that till now has talked about the Kiwhi situation have to be call out in some manner.
I understand that' probably breaking chances to mend the relationship with uncle dennis, but at some point some of the bullshit this people is throwing to the Spurs organization has to end...
Till now the only voice that has said something that could be considered for the Spurs side is Simmons, and his 8/9 doctors thing.
Imho its obvious that all this has been orchestrated since a long time and the main media, all have an interest to provoke a splitting on the Kiwhi/Spurs relationship.

The point that has to be made clear is that the Spurs behavior has always been in the sense of protect the player from any kind of dangerous injury (see the fact we decided to sit him in the conference finals just for a sprained anckle) and having confidence in the player's and his group honesty (see the freedom given in consenting them to find other medical opinions and consenting his reabilitation in N.Y.)...
The other point to make clear is that Kiwhi has became what he was till one year ago in great part because of the Spurs environment, choices and training...and that the relationship with Pop was so good that he is the only person he's still talking with...

The contradictions coming from the Kawhi's group are many and obvious...its time to let them emerge and to èut out the possible conflict of interest between the player and the sociaty thet's acting for him.

Well said.

Maybe Simmons can speak freely because he's burned his own bridge with BSPN.

[DPG21920]

The truth is painting Kawhi in an awful light. this has helped SA in that regard. Its hurt them though since other teams truly view Kawhi as toxic.

[spursistan]

Cris Carter is such a fucking faggot. Why the fuck does anyone care what some washed up football hack has to say about basketball? fuck off you goofy eyed twat
:lol tbh..

He's been given too much credence around here. Seems to me like he is trying too hard to be part of "Kawhi's group" rather than actually be inside it already...

[SpursDynasty85]

Huh? The Spurs seem to be taking the hit everywhere but on ST. After a few monster games for Philly or the Lakers or whoever next season, the national media will be proclaiming Kawhi a top 5 player and comeback player of the year. And continue to kick dust in the face of the Spurs.

There will be media support for Kawhi obviously for marketing purposes but inside the NBA Circle and owners word has or will spread. Spurs won't go lying down either. That's why you saw Pop make those comments - "his group". Big media outlast online about Uncle Dennis too.

[Spurs da champs]

Brandon Ingram a young goat in the making. Fuck Kawhi.

[Marcus Bryant]

Huh? The Spurs seem to be taking the hit everywhere but on ST. After a few monster games for Philly or the Lakers or whoever next season, the national media will be proclaiming Kawhi a top 5 player and comeback player of the year. And continue to kick dust in the face of the Spurs.

I'd dig it up but I'm feeling lazy today, that Polack reporter on ESPN said that GMs around the league had questions about the injury, questions about why he didn't play. You do not want that rep with the people who make the decisions on who plays where and for how much. This was in the context for why the trade offers so far for Leonard have been shit. While, yes, some of it was simple negotiating, there's a lot of truth to that.

[Marcus Bryant]

That’s been my stance the whole time. As f’d up as the whole situation has been, both parties benefit at this point from working things out.

Next step is for Pop to extend the olive branch, indicate that the supermax or some portion thereof, is in play and that he and the franchise are ready to make amends.

[Mugen]

It is unquestionable he is top 5 player. The only issue is health and so of course a sign and trade would include a physical and thorough examination of his medical documents. I'm sure hes worth at least a max contract for 4 years.

:lol Yeah, "unquestionable" top 5 player. So unquestionable that the team that just signed Rajon Rondo and Lance Stephenson to help the squad doesn't think he's worth Kyle F'n Kuzma.

[apalisoc_9]

The truth is painting Kawhi in an awful light. this has helped SA in that regard. Its hurt them though since other teams truly view Kawhi as toxic.

Maybe for Spursfans in spurstalk :lmao

No one is saying this in media. Its the spurs that are getting hit big time by PR. When thry get hit by the race card it would be all over.

[DPG21920]

Nah - there is plenty of media crushing Kawhi for this. Hell, Stephen A Smith called Kawhi out early for his lying and bs.

[ohmwrecker]

The truth is painting Kawhi in an awful light. this has helped SA in that regard. Its hurt them though since other teams truly view Kawhi as toxic.

Exactly. The Spurs can’t afford to slam Kawhi/defend themselves until a deal is done. Kawhi’s rep is already effecting the situation. Before this happened all these team would be pulling the trigger on these proposed/supposed trades and then laughing that they got the deal of the century. The fact that deals have been characterized as the Spurs asking for too much is fucking ridiculous.

[apalisoc_9]

Cowhered is already starting.

Once more people jump into this, the spurs will have no choice but to trade him.

Having a racist organization in a predominantley Black league is suicide

[Ice009]

Tell us what you've heard (or made up about the "done deal"), otherwise, shut the fuck up.

[DPG21920]

Cowherd is the least respected national media guy for the NBA. He carries no weight.

[SpursDynasty85]

:lol Yeah, "unquestionable" top 5 player. So unquestionable that the team that just signed Rajon Rondo and Lance Stephenson to help the squad doesn't think he's worth Kyle F'n Kuzma.

Bro. Lakers have every right to not play ball with Spurs either. They can keep all their young talent which the Spurs want not just Kyle kuzma but the rest of their assets. Ok "unquestionable top 5" is not true. To me he is top 3 depending on system and coaching but he is obviously top 10. Unless you are hiding under a rock the reason he is not traded yet goes far beyond teams belief in his basketball ability.

[ohmwrecker]

Cowhered is already starting.

Once more people jump into this, the spurs will have no choice but to trade him.

Having a racist organization in a predominantley Black league is suicide

Racist?! That’s dumb as fuck and Cowherd doesn’t know fuck-all about basketball.

[Proxy]

Huh? The Spurs seem to be taking the hit everywhere but on ST. After a few monster games for Philly or the Lakers or whoever next season, the national media will be proclaiming Kawhi a top 5 player and comeback player of the year. And continue to kick dust in the face of the Spurs.

You think? I got friends that range from Rockets to Thunder fans, even Laker fans thinking Kawhi is a bitch.

[K...]

Playing the race card might be harmful to the spurs but it doesn't help his trade value. It's not like other own ers and gms care about it, they just see a cancer.

I really don't think this is a good situation. If he just put any of the effort into building his brand that went into haggling to suck magics dick, hed be in a much better place. Let's face it dude is a gym rat, but an otherwise lazy bitch.

[DPG21920]

Lebron James is the most outspoken athlete in all of basketball and he staked his claim in Pop :lol Racist card won’t work. Sorry Chollie

[daslicer]

Nah - there is plenty of media crushing Kawhi for this. Hell, Stephen A Smith called Kawhi out early for his lying and bs.

Stephen A will do what his bosses tell him to do. They will tell him to suck off Kawhi once Kawhi is in a bigger market and he will do it. This man has zero integrity. Just watch the clip below to get a great illustration of this. You will see him hating on the Demarcus Cousins move and then the next day calling out people who are complaining about it.

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[Mugen]

Bro. Lakers have every right to not play ball with Spurs either. They can keep all their young talent which the Spurs want not just Kyle kuzma but the rest of their assets. Ok "unquestionable top 5" is not true. To me he is top 3 depending on system and coaching but he is obviously top 10. Unless you are hiding under a rock the reason he is not traded yet goes far beyond teams belief in his basketball ability.

Great move by the Lakers, worked out real well last time an All-Star small forward wanted to come to LA.

[ohmwrecker]

The Lakers and Clippers have the worst trade talent to offer. If Kawhi goes to LA, it’s becacuse the Spurs gave up.

[Play Boban]

Cris Carter is such a fucking faggot. Why the fuck does anyone care what some washed up football hack has to say about basketball? fuck off you goofy eyed twat
He’s Kawhitter’s chief publicist tbh. Jabari works under his tutelage.

[daslicer]

Playing the race card might be harmful to the spurs but it doesn't help his trade value. It's not like other own ers and gms care about it, they just see a cancer.

I really don't think this is a good situation. If he just put any of the effort into building his brand that went into haggling to suck magics dick, hed be in a much better place. Let's face it dude is a gym rat, but an otherwise lazy bitch.

If his group doesn't get what they want they will go the race card route. During the playoffs Jalen Rose who I believe is one of his uncle's mouthpieces attempted to call Pop a racist. Jalen said that Pop using the word group to describe Kawhi's people was racist. Michelle Beadle immediately interrupted him and shot him down before he could go more into detail.

[DPG21920]

Great move by the Lakers, worked out real well last time an All-Star small forward wanted to come to LA.

:lol LA taking heat for not going after Cousins so their response was to say that “they want to win now and be as competitive as possible so they could not wait like GS on a player who won’t be ready to start the year”. They are also telling their fans that “we aren’t in a rush to get Kawhi because we have the clearance to play the long game and we don’t have to rush to win now”.


Ummm......

[DPG21920]

Cris Carter is fine to say that, but just yesterday he implored Magic to offer up the house for Kawhi. He knows that they will lose Kawhi if they don’t make a big trade for him.

[sasaint]

I'd dig it up but I'm feeling lazy today, that Polack reporter on ESPN said that GMs around the league had questions about the injury, questions about why he didn't play. You do not want that rep with the people who make the decisions on who plays where and for how much. This was in the context for why the trade offers so far for Leonard have been shit. While, yes, some of it was simple negotiating, there's a lot of truth to that.

Media helps a player generate perceived value - not owners. Owners just follow the perceived value to put butts in seats.

[FkLA]

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"I don't necessarily like how he's going about it, and I can go into that but it won't change the reality of the situation so instead let's just talk about how the Spurs would be foolish to not trade him to LA. How Kawhi holds all the power because he can just void a trade by not showing up for his physical."


This is gross, man. The Spurs have been a model franchise for decades but because we're a small-market and the team he wants to go to is the NBA's darling, nobody is willing to call out Kawhitter for the bullshit he is pulling. If he had quit on and was abandoning NY or LA in the manner he's doing it in, there would be an uproar.

How can you not be disillusioned with the league after this?

[ohmwrecker]

The Lakers have 0% chance of getting to the finals this season.

[Mugen]

:lol LA taking heat for not going after Cousins so their response was to say that “they want to win now and be as competitive as possible so they could not wait like GS on a player who won’t be ready to start the year”. They are also telling their fans that “we aren’t in a rush to get Kawhi because we have the clearance to play the long game and we don’t have to rush to win now”.


Ummm......

:lol The only consistent thing about the Lakers organization since West left and Buss died is that ownership knows they can sell anything to that idiot fanbase and they'd lap that shit up.

[SpursDynasty85]

Great move by the Lakers, worked out real well last time an All-Star small forward wanted to come to LA.

Do you know what Spurs are asking? We all know the price for LA is higher than for the eastern conference teams which the Spursqould prefer anyway. Lol. You are really questioning Kawhi as a top level NBA talent? This guy can outplay all of them considering he is the number one stopper for Harden, Currry, Durant, and Lebron. The other guy's defense doesn't hold a candle to Kawhi's. Offensively he is as efficient as those players too. If he played in a higher powered offense he would be a 30 pt scorer. Injury wise, I have no idea what is going on.

[Marcus Bryant]

Media helps a player generate perceived value - not owners. Owners just follow the perceived value to put butts in seats.

Nah, that value is overrated. Leonard, before this year, is a prime example - talent gets paid.

[Kermit]

Cowhered is already starting.

Once more people jump into this, the spurs will have no choice but to trade him.

Having a racist organization in a predominantley Black league is suicide

It's predominantly, as in "apalisoc_9 is predominantly a retard when he logs in to Spurstalk."

[sasaint]

You think? I got friends that range from Rockets to Thunder fans, even Laker fans thinking Kawhi is a bitch.

Are those fans opining on national media? That's who does the "thinking" for most "fans".

[Mugen]

Do you know what Spurs are asking? We all know the price for LA is higher than for the eastern conference teams which the Spursqould prefer anyway. Lol. You are really questioning Kawhi as a top level NBA talent? This guy can outplay all of them considering he is the number one stopper for Harden, Currry, Durant, and Lebron. The other guy's defense doesn't hold a candle to Kawhi's. Offensively he is as efficient as those players too. If he played in a higher powered offense he would be a 30 pt scorer. Injury wise, I have no idea what is going on.

:lol You're confused man, confused about the situation, confused about my characterization of Kawhi's abilities, etc. Kawhi in 2016-2017 was the MVP of the league, no question. Lot has changed since then.

[DPG21920]

The Lakers have 0% chance of getting to the finals this season.

Disagree. Kawhi might have screwed SA really bad and there is a legit chance other teams don’t make offers.

[Marcus Bryant]

"I don't necessarily like how he's going about it, and I can go into that but it won't change the reality of the situation so instead let's just talk about how the Spurs would be foolish to not trade him to LA. How Kawhi holds all the power because he can just void a trade by not showing up for his physical."


This is gross, man. The Spurs have been a model franchise for decades but because we're a small-market and the team he wants to go to is the NBA's darling, nobody is willing to call out Kawhitter for the bullshit he is pulling. If he had quit on and was abandoning NY or LA in the manner he's doing it in, there would be an uproar.

How can you not be disillusioned with the league after this?

Hmmm. The CBA over the last few decades has enabled smaller market teams to be competitive and win. The tension has been with the media outlets which favor larger markets. Remember when Musberger talked shit about the 'shame' of DRob going to small market SA instead of NY or LA? Right now the reason the Spurs have some leverage is because of the CBA and the supermax provision.

[BillMc]

RC should just come out and say we've decided not to trade Kawhi Leonard, he is under contract, and we'll see him at training camp. Obviously, that won't stop offers coming in, but taking a public position that he will be playing for the Spurs this year will change the media narrative. If his mouth pieces like Carter advocate sitting out or a "flare up" of the old injury they'll be hanging themselves with their own rope. It will turn the narrative from "bad spurs" to "is Kawhi really going to breech a contract or fake an injury (again)".

[MannyIsGod]

"I don't necessarily like how he's going about it, and I can go into that but it won't change the reality of the situation so instead let's just talk about how the Spurs would be foolish to not trade him to LA. How Kawhi holds all the power because he can just void a trade by not showing up for his physical."


This is gross, man. The Spurs have been a model franchise for decades but because we're a small-market and the team he wants to go to is the NBA's darling, nobody is willing to call out Kawhitter for the bullshit he is pulling. If he had quit on and was abandoning NY or LA in the manner he's doing it in, there would be an uproar.

How can you not be disillusioned with the league after this?

Just makes me appreciate what we had all that much more, honestly.

[K...]

If his group doesn't get what they want they will go the race card route. During the playoffs Jalen Rose who I believe is one of his uncle's mouthpieces attempted to call Pop a racist. Jalen said that Pop using the word group to describe Kawhi's people was racist. Michelle Beadle immediately interrupted him and shot him down before he could go more into detail.

So let them, pop is close to retirement and is the face of the Olympic team. It's going to be hard to whitewash him and if they did, spurs replace him with a woman, an African, or the Italian. All it will accomplish is having pop take the team to the slavery museum sooner! Kawhi can whisper all he wants but pop is closer to almost all nba players whereas kawhi is a mute. You don't hear active players taking up for him now. I doubt they will start.

The danger for jalen and Carter saying it is that they look reactionary and out of touch. In the age of trump racism is kind of loud and out. Your whisper campaign isn't going to move pop into that camp.

[sasaint]

"I don't necessarily like how he's going about it, and I can go into that but it won't change the reality of the situation so instead let's just talk about how the Spurs would be foolish to not trade him to LA. How Kawhi holds all the power because he can just void a trade by not showing up for his physical."


This is gross, man. The Spurs have been a model franchise for decades but because we're a small-market and the team he wants to go to is the NBA's darling, nobody is willing to call out Kawhitter for the bullshit he is pulling. If he had quit on and was abandoning NY or LA in the manner he's doing it in, there would be an uproar.

How can you not be disillusioned with the league after this?

You said it! :toast

[DPG21920]

Also, Nick Wright is wrong. A team doesn’t have to have a physical to do the trade. Kawhi himself can’t void anything. He could get a physical, fail and STILL a team could do the trade.

[tim_duncan_fan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8zjLj7NaWo

Probably already posted, but you know...

Kawhi wants out because he's a "free thinker"

New spin is Kawhi's bad endorsements are PATFO.

Saying just ignoring training camp or a physical if traded somewhere you don't wish to go is a reasonable option for KL. Good lord.

Amazing, to watch them pile them on.

http://impactse.com/testimonial-item/testimonial-3/


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[Dverde]

He’s Kawhitter’s chief publicist tbh. Jabari works under his tutelage.

Yes, he is used as the mouth piece for his group. They are beginning to shift from desperate to angry/disrespected within a day. They leak info to everyone else like Jabari, Jaylin Rose. They are ruining Kawhi’s brand singlehandedly. He can’t skip physicals or refuse to play for another team. Silver will suspend his ass and make an example out of him.

[Mugen]

What the Spurs are currently doing is smart tbh. These leaks of the Spurs wanting the farm in a trade is basically an indirect way of saying "We value Kawhi very highly and think the world of him. It would take an absolute godfather offer for us to even consider moving him. We're prepared to play the season out with him because even 1 season of Leonard is worth it to us, he's that good."

I'd think they benefit from issuing a direct statement akin to the above (RC kinda already did during his draft interview) and they should say the same thing to Kawhi's group if they haven't done so already.

It boosts his trade value and plants the seed in Leonard's mind that being Pippen to Bron in LA probably isn't his best course of action. He expands his list publicly and the Spurs are in good shape again.

[BillMc]

http://impactse.com/testimonial-item/testimonial-3/


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

:lol

[Marcus Bryant]

http://impactse.com/testimonial-item/testimonial-3/


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Geez are they that fucking stupid?

[Leetonidas]

http://impactse.com/testimonial-item/testimonial-3/


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Fucking amateurs :lmao

[Mugen]

http://impactse.com/testimonial-item/testimonial-3/


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

:lol fucking clown show

[cd98]

Here is the reality in all this. Pop and RC know what is going on and know what offers they are getting from other teams. All this media chatter is contradictory and means nothing. The Spurs know if there is a good package available. And if the offers are such that the Spurs are better off keeping Kawhi and going all in this year with a see-what-happens attitude at the end of the year, then that's what will happen.

Leaks and threats and all this stuff reported by the media, if a taken as true, would make no sense. He wants LA, but he would consider Boston and Philly, but he calls Lebron and wants to play with Lebron, but then if Lebron is in LA, he wants to go to the Clippers. But the Spurs hands are tied except that he'd consider Philly. And Boston won't be involved at all, except their name keeps getting mentioned. This is all media nonsense. The parties know what is going on behind closed doors and none of this talk matters, except for fans to speculate as to what it all means.

[daslicer]

So let them, pop is close to retirement and is the face of the Olympic team. It's going to be hard to whitewash him and if they did, spurs replace him with a woman, an African, or the Italian. All it will accomplish is having pop take the team to the slavery museum sooner! Kawhi can whisper all he wants but pop is closer to almost all nba players whereas kawhi is a mute. You don't hear active players taking up for him now. I doubt they will start.

The danger for jalen and Carter saying it is that they look reactionary and out of touch. In the age of trump racism is kind of loud and out. Your whisper campaign isn't going to move pop into that camp.

I agree and have the same sentiment the Spurs should never cave in no matter how nasty its going to get. My fear is the Spurs could cave in when they start playing the race card.

[Mugen]

Man, I really hope the group plays the race card, just for the sheer Civil War that would cause in the NBA.

You'd be playing the race card against the most outspoken liberal in all of american sports and the head coach of Team USA. Maybe they get some traction with the media and some players, but holy hell the wrath they would incur from the owners around the league. If Pop gets the race card pulled on him, what's to stop actual racist owners from getting it done to them. Even Uncle Tom MJ would put a hit on Dennis :lol

God, the backlash from the owners around the league and subsequent bind that Silver would be in would absolutely be worth it tbh....

[Ice009]

http://impactse.com/testimonial-item/testimonial-3/


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

What is this? I can't really view it.

[exstatic]

Cris Carter is just another Christianist, someone who claims to be a Christian, but who’s actions belie that statement.

[tim_duncan_fan]

What is this? I can't really view it.

It's Impact's shitty website. There is supposed to be a testimonial from Cris Carter (Frankel was/is his agent, probably his investment partner now), but it's just Carter's picture.

Carter's connection to Kawhi is that he is completely involved in this.

[Leetonidas]

What is this? I can't really view it.

Exactly :lol

[FkLA]

Hmmm. The CBA over the last few decades has enabled smaller market teams to be competitive and win. The tension has been with the media outlets which favor larger markets. Remember when Musberger talked shit about the 'shame' of DRob going to small market SA instead of NY or LA? Right now the reason the Spurs have some leverage is because of the CBA and the supermax provision.

I didn't know that, since Robinson being drafted was before my time. Pretty shameless though. :td


Just makes me appreciate what we had all that much more, honestly.

Yeah, I've had that thought too. But then I think about how it shouldn't take such special circumstances (getting a special player without the prototypical superstar personality) for us small-markets to be able to compete, because it's really fucking hard to come across that.

[Mugen]

Exactly :lol

:lmao

[YGWHI]

Are those fans opining on national media? That's who does the "thinking" for most "fans".
Agree. National media creates the narratives, they form and influence most people's opinion, heroes become villains, villains become heroes...This happens all time.

National media is part of NBA contract talks, they manipule agents and distort reality to favor a team.

[ducks]

Most do not believe the media now

[YGWHI]

It boosts his trade value and plants the seed in Leonard's mind that being Pippen to Bron in LA probably isn't his best course of action. He expands his list publicly and the Spurs are in good shape again.


But the Spurs hands are tied except that he'd consider Philly.

His camp already said he could remain with Philly long term if they trade for him. It's not their fault that Sixers lost interest after LeBron signed with Lakers.

They wanted Kawhi to land LeBron but the Spurs asked too much, then it was too late.

[DPG21920]

His camp already said he could remain with Philly long term if they trade for him. It's not their fault that Sixers lost interest after LeBron signed with Lakers.

They wanted Kawhi to land LeBron but the Spurs asked too much, then it was too late.

Makes sense :lol. Kawhi will commit here long-term, we lost to BOS without Kyrie/Hayward 4-1 but because we didn’t land Lebron it’s not worth getting Kawhi

Are you listening to yourself? If we can’t have Lebron AND KAWHI we would rather have neither!!

[Marcus Bryant]

Man, I really hope the group plays the race card, just for the sheer Civil War that would cause in the NBA.

You'd be playing the race card against the most outspoken liberal in all of american sports and the head coach of Team USA. Maybe they get some traction with the media and some players, but holy hell the wrath they would incur from the owners around the league. If Pop gets the race card pulled on him, what's to stop actual racist owners from getting it done to them. Even Uncle Tom MJ would put a hit on Dennis :lol

God, the backlash from the owners around the league and subsequent bind that Silver would be in would absolutely be worth it tbh....

:tu don't waste the time tbh

[sasaint]

Most do not believe the media now

I think that is less true in the realm of sports media.

[Mugen]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2017/02/28/10-million-investment-should-have-a-major-impact-for-sports-agency/#22f891a0701a

For anybody still thinking that the relationship can be repaired, the above article pretty much sums up the group's approach.

They're all in on Kawhi since there's no money to be made in the NFL and their angle is to get endorsements, real estate deals, etc. for their clients. Getting him to LA or another big market is their only chance to save the failing business.

Their whole differentiator gimmick is to get their clients access to things outside of sports, and that's not happening in SA. A supermax isn't even a win for them.

This group and his Uncle are beyond toxic, the Spurs need to cut ties with them as soon as possible before they infect the franchise even further tbh.

[baseline bum]

I didn't know that, since Robinson being drafted was before my time. Pretty shameless though. :td


Fucking Rick Barry on draft night said David should go sign with the Lakers or Celtics. And if he wanted to David could have done so since his two year naval commitment could have made him a free agent.

[Mugen]

:lol Say what you will about dumbfuck Lavar, at least he knows how to build an actual website

[SAGirl]

1014491102055936002
Digging that line of chat led me to this:
1014482146340298755

[RD2191]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2017/02/28/10-million-investment-should-have-a-major-impact-for-sports-agency/#22f891a0701a

For anybody still thinking that the relationship can be repaired, the above article pretty much sums up the group's approach.

They're all in on Kawhi since there's no money to be made in the NFL and their angle is to get endorsements, real estate deals, etc. for their clients. Getting him to LA or another big market is their only chance to save the failing business.

Their whole differentiator gimmick is to get their clients access to things outside of sports, and that's not happening in SA. A supermax isn't even a win for them.

This group and his Uncle are beyond toxic, the Spurs need to cut ties with them as soon as possible before they infect the franchise even further tbh.

And they could've had all that in Philly or Boston: lol. They played themselves by leaving LA as the only option.

[SpursDynasty85]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2017/02/28/10-million-investment-should-have-a-major-impact-for-sports-agency/#22f891a0701a

For anybody still thinking that the relationship can be repaired, the above article pretty much sums up the group's approach.

They're all in on Kawhi since there's no money to be made in the NFL and their angle is to get endorsements, real estate deals, etc. for their clients. Getting him to LA or another big market is their only chance to save the failing business.

Their whole differentiator gimmick is to get their clients access to things outside of sports, and that's not happening in SA. A supermax isn't even a win for them.

This group and his Uncle are beyond toxic, the Spurs need to cut ties with them as soon as possible before they infect the franchise even further tbh.

That agency and their story reeks greed and selfishness. Smaller market teams and their stars are the prey.

[DPG21920]

Lol you can’t invest in real estate in CA playing in SA? :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

A conflicted employee of a major media outlet who calls Pop a racist is inviting a rather large slander claim and would be out of a job.

[Mugen]

Man, I still hate him because he's a grown ass man, but it's hard to not feel sorry for the kid. It's pretty easy to connect the dots.

Quiet, low-key guy from a close-knit family gets to the NBA. All of a sudden blows up and is one of the biggest names in the sport.

The only family member with any business sense/interest is retard Dennis and is trusted implicitly by Kawhi and his mom, etc.

Dennis gets involved with a bunch of snake oil salesmen that promise him that he can have a Rich Paul type stake in the empire they're trying to build , without realizing that him and his nephew are just a means to an end for these fucking leeches.

Smh.

[SpursDynasty85]

Lol you can’t invest in real estate in CA playing in SA? :lol

Well. The real estate side seems to be them sharing their profits with players. Their job is to mafia big market targeted players to them and reap endorsement deals.

[SpursBills]

Man, I still hate him because he's a grown ass man, but it's hard to not feel sorry for the kid. It's pretty easy to connect the dots.

Quiet, low-key guy from a close-knit family gets to the NBA. All of a sudden blows up and is one of the biggest names in the sport.

The only family member with any business sense/interest is retard Dennis and is trusted implicitly by Kawhi and his mom, etc.

Dennis gets involved with a bunch of snake oil salesmen that promise him that he can have a Rich Paul type stake in the empire they're trying to build , without realizing that him and his nephew are just a means to an end for these fucking leeches.

Smh.

I think this is probably the most accurate summary of what's been going on that allows all the pieces to best fit together

[YGWHI]

Makes sense :lol. Kawhi will commit here long-term, we lost to BOS without Kyrie/Hayward 4-1 but because we didn’t land Lebron it’s not worth getting Kawhi

Are you listening to yourself? If we can’t have Lebron AND KAWHI we would rather have neither!!

"If we can't have LeBron we wouldn't give up the bank for Kawhi. He's amazing but the Spurs ask too much for him and we can't lose our young assets & picks and compromise our future for just one player. We would have done it for two players: LBJ and KL, not just for one"

Also, I doubt Philly has enough cap to create three max slots..They already gave Embiid a max contract, would have to give Kawhi one next offseason, and Simmons other the next.

[Extra Stout]

That agency and their story reeks greed and selfishness. Smaller market teams and their stars are the prey.
Manipulative ruthless billionaire New York Jews exploit black athlete and his family, tear apart model small-market franchise to prop up failing business venture.

The race card can be played both ways, bloodsuckers.

[DPG21920]

Under no circumstance is giving up Fultz while keeping Simmons/Embiid and adding Kawhi compromising your future.

[daslicer]

Man, I still hate him because he's a grown ass man, but it's hard to not feel sorry for the kid. It's pretty easy to connect the dots.

Quiet, low-key guy from a close-knit family gets to the NBA. All of a sudden blows up and is one of the biggest names in the sport.

The only family member with any business sense/interest is retard Dennis and is trusted implicitly by Kawhi and his mom, etc.

Dennis gets involved with a bunch of snake oil salesmen that promise him that he can have a Rich Paul type stake in the empire they're trying to build , without realizing that him and his nephew are just a means to an end for these fucking leeches.

Smh.

It's insane somebody should make a movie based off of this.

[Ron Swanson]

http://impactse.com/testimonial-item/testimonial-3/


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

:lmao Amateur hour

[Mugen]

Lol you can’t invest in real estate in CA playing in SA? :lol

Connections with LA real estate guys, etc. There's some truth that proximity builds relationships with business guys that can move mountains tbh. You look at KD and his connections to Silicon Valley. Sure they're a conference call way from getting investments/deals finalized but running in the same circles, going to the same networking events regularly isn't something that can be completely ignored. Tougher to do all that when you're in SA and OKC for a good chunk of the year.

I'm with you and it seems a little naive on Kawhi's part to believe that but him and Uncle Dennis are getting taken for a ride. If the son of a real estate mogul says you only get access to these deals by being in LA / NY, who are Kawhi and retard Uncle Dennis to believe otherwise. Kawhi doesn't know shit about the business side of things and Dennis probably couldn't manage a Dairy Queen.

[Spurs9]

Under no circumstance is giving up Fultz while keeping Simmons/Embiid and adding Kawhi compromising your future.

I don't understand why they appear to have Fultz off limits. They barely played him last season and they would be adding Kawhi to Simmons/Embiid like you said. He has been working really hard and has alot of potential but why wouldn't Philly go at the chance right now? If he ends up in LA they probably won't be able to ever get him. And they have a good chance of making the finals with that team.

[Mugen]

It's insane somebody should make a movie based off of this.

They made a show about it. It's called Season 3 of The Wire. :lol

[BatManu20]

http://impactse.com/testimonial-item/testimonial-3/


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!



Jesus Christ :lmao

[Spurs9]

Saw this on reddit.

[Wojnarowski] On the Rondo deal: "This is a message to Lonzo Ball after his camp leaked news about his knee injury"
He said that there's a general belief amongst the Lakers organisation that the leak came from the Ball camp.

He also mentions that there were a lot of teams looking to make a deal with the Lakers, those teams are now having a lot of questions about this injury.

So Lavar may have blocked a Lakers/Kawhi deal? It had been reported that they were trying to trade Lonzo for picks which would be included in a Kawhi deal. Right after that it got leaked that he had the injury. :lol

[Mugen]

The only reason Philly hasn't said yes to a deal is that Pop probably told Brett that this guy and his group are bad fucking news and I don't want to pawn this shit off on you.

If you actually believe Markelle F'n Fultz is the hold up to this deal, then i have some beachfront property in Nevada to sell you :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Man, I still hate him because he's a grown ass man, but it's hard to not feel sorry for the kid. It's pretty easy to connect the dots.

Quiet, low-key guy from a close-knit family gets to the NBA. All of a sudden blows up and is one of the biggest names in the sport.

The only family member with any business sense/interest is retard Dennis and is trusted implicitly by Kawhi and his mom, etc.

Dennis gets involved with a bunch of snake oil salesmen that promise him that he can have a Rich Paul type stake in the empire they're trying to build , without realizing that him and his nephew are just a means to an end for these fucking leeches.

Smh.

Ya, I've been saying this for months..I was annoyed by Kawhi at first, but the more obvious it became that he's being taken advantage of, the less I've criticized him..I don't care at all anymore, tbh..

He's just another name on the list of athletes and celebs that got eaten by this monster..

[Amuseddaysleeper]

The only reason Philly hasn't said yes to a deal is that Pop probably told Brett that this guy and his group are bad fucking news and I don't want to pawn this shit off on you.

If you actually believe Markelle F'n Fultz is the hold up to this deal, then i have some beachfront property in Nevada to sell you :lol

I hope this is the case. Call me a sucker, but I keep praying that somehow both sides can still work things out.

I hope the Spurs continue to make moves this summer because the roster still needs a ton of work.

[BatManu20]

:lol Say what you will about dumbfuck Lavar, at least he knows how to build an actual website



Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Still a dumbfuck :lol

1014570831576326144

[YGWHI]

Under no circumstance is giving up Fultz while keeping Simmons/Embiid and adding Kawhi compromising your future.
You mean giving up Fultz, Saric, Covington and picks...We already read many reports about what was Spurs' counter-offer.

If they have to choose between two of Kawhi/Simmons/Embiid because can't have three max contracts in next season..after they lost their picks in this trade?

[DPG21920]

The only reason Philly hasn't said yes to a deal is that Pop probably told Brett that this guy and his group are bad fucking news and I don't want to pawn this shit off on you.

If you actually believe Markelle F'n Fultz is the hold up to this deal, then i have some beachfront property in Nevada to sell you :lol

I agree. I think PHI should stil take the chance because PHI seems like a place Kawhi’s group favors, but I’ve said all along Pop/Brown have a great relationship and won’t lie to each other.

[DPG21920]

You mean giving up Fultz, Saric, Covington and picks...We already read many reports about what was Spurs' counter-offer.

If they have to choose between two of Kawhi/Simmons/Embiid because can't have three max contracts in next season..after they lost their picks in this trade?

Ya - that still doesn’t hurt them at all really.

[HarlemHeat37]

Lavar Ball has his scrub son Liangelo in commercials and getting tryouts with NBA teams..he's known across America, took over sports media for a few months and built a legit following..

Don't compare him to Kawhi's team:lol

[DPG21920]

Lavar Ball has his scrub son Liangelo in commercials and getting tryouts with NBA teams..he's known across America, took over sports media for a few months and built a legit following..

Don't compare him to Kawhi's team:lol

He cost his son millions of dollars from Nike/Adidas to instead get his son 100K from his own shoe company that is about to file for bankruptcy :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

Lavar Ball has his scrub son Liangelo in commercials and getting tryouts with NBA teams..he's known across America, took over sports media for a few months and built a legit following..

Don't compare him to Kawhi's team:lol

:tu

[Spurs9]

Lavar Ball has his scrub son Liangelo in commercials and getting tryouts with NBA teams..he's known across America, took over sports media for a few months and built a legit following..

Don't compare him to Kawhi's team:lol

What do you estimate Big Baller Brand is worth now that Lebron joined and if he starts wearing BBB gear?

[Mr. Body]

Saw this on reddit.

[Wojnarowski] On the Rondo deal: "This is a message to Lonzo Ball after his camp leaked news about his knee injury"
He said that there's a general belief amongst the Lakers organisation that the leak came from the Ball camp.

He also mentions that there were a lot of teams looking to make a deal with the Lakers, those teams are now having a lot of questions about this injury.

So Lavar may have blocked a Lakers/Kawhi deal? It had been reported that they were trying to trade Lonzo for picks which would be included in a Kawhi deal. Right after that it got leaked that he had the injury. :lol

He's not blocking a Kawhi deal, he's blocking his son from getting traded from LA. Guarantee they want him out, though.

[Ron Swanson]

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Still a dumbfuck :lol

1014570831576326144

https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-11-2015/GLmKh7.gif

[ECOV]

He cost his son millions of dollars from Nike/Adidas to instead get his son 100K from his own shoe company that is about to file for bankruptcy :lol

Are they really filing for bankruptcy??

[Mr. Body]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-11-2015/GLmKh7.gif

Lakers agent winning shit with that junk drawer team.

[spurs2112]

Fucking Rick Barry on draft night said David should go sign with the Lakers or Celtics. And if he wanted to David could have done so since his two year naval commitment could have made him a free agent.

Damn. So this whole bending over for LA thing has been going on in the NBA forever then.

[YGWHI]

The only reason Philly hasn't said yes to a deal is that Pop probably told Brett that this guy and his group are bad fucking news and I don't want to pawn this shit off on you.

Good. Pop isn't trading Kawhi to a friend like Brett and doesn't want trade him to Pop's enemies in LA...

Pop basically decided to lose him in FA...I'm fine with this, both sides lose big but at least we'll see Kawhi in a Spurs uni again.

[HarlemHeat37]

He cost his son millions of dollars from Nike/Adidas to instead get his son 100K from his own shoe company that is about to file for bankruptcy :lol

It was well worth the shot, tbh..losing 1 or 2 million is completely irrelevant in the grand scheme for somebody who will make 50+ mil through his career..

It's not like Kawhi, who is going to lose like 80 million lol

[Marcus Bryant]

Damn. So this whole bending over for LA thing has been going on in the NBA forever then.

Pretty much.

[ElNono]

Found this on Reddit.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhOy_acU0AA2C9i.jpg

There's actually zero reasons why Kawhi couldn't change his representation. So the issue here is not Kawhi's agency/Spurs, it's Kawhi/Kawhi's agency.

[DPG21920]

It was well worth the shot, tbh..losing 1 or 2 million is completely irrelevant in the grand scheme for somebody who will make 50+ mil through his career..

It's not like Kawhi, who is going to lose like 80 million lol

Sons - it was 10’s of millions of dollars and obviously with how poorly it was run that there was little upside to doing their own thing other than the fact that with BBB daddy gets paid and with Nike/Adidas Lonzo gets the checks.

[YGWHI]

Ya - that still doesn’t hurt them at all really.
Doesnt hurt them? :lol Of course not =blue font

[DPG21920]

Are they really filing for bankruptcy??

I don’t know :lol. I know there were in some trouble though.

[RD2191]

I don’t know :lol. I know there were in some trouble though.

Fukin DPG:lmao

[daslicer]

They made a show about it. It's called Season 3 of The Wire. :lol

I'll take your word for it. Never really got into The Wire.

[ElNono]

Also, due to the recent moves, if he heads East he could legitimately be in a position to make the NBA Finals every year, and be the next 'Lebron' in a sense.

That's probably the best career move for him, but for that he needs to cut these leeches loose.

[DPG21920]

What do you estimate Big Baller Brand is worth now that Lebron joined and if he starts wearing BBB gear?

:lmao

[DPG21920]

Lonzo lost 10’s of millions of dollars, blew out his BBB shoe in his first game and then started wearing Nike’s for free :lol

[BackHome]

I agree Philly would be a perfect place for him plus their team Dr. has worked on him so they will know all facts regarding his injury. Only way a trade is going to get done is if both parties start working together so Kawhi camp give list to teams that u want to be traded to which would include Boston, Philly, Suns. You agree to trade that it won’t be a one year deal and will trade u to who ever gives us best deal. If you do no to this then will see you next season in a spurs warmups.

[DAF86]

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/giannis-antetokounmpo-would-never-leave-for-los-angeles/

Giannis:

Would you ever leave Milwaukee if the Lakers came calling?

“To be honest with you, no. No way. I like finishing the stuff that I have with Milwaukee.

“My goal is to win in Milwaukee, bring a championship in the city, and make the team a lot better.

“So I would never leave for L.A.”

Fuck Kawhi.

[Seventyniner]

There's actually zero reasons why Kawhi couldn't change his representation. So the issue here is not Kawhi's agency/Spurs, it's Kawhi/Kawhi's agency.

But he won't. There is some serious Stockholm syndrome-level shit going on here.

[spurschamps99030507]

DeMar DeRozan's response when asked if he'd come play for the Lakers: "Hell nah."

https://twitter.com/YahooSports/status/1014585554497867783

[dbestpro]

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Still a dumbfuck :lol

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Lebron signed a 4 year contract, so they plan on winning it all this year when they may not even make the playoffs.

[FkLA]

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/giannis-antetokounmpo-would-never-leave-for-los-angeles/

Giannis:

Would you ever leave Milwaukee if the Lakers came calling?

“To be honest with you, no. No way. I like finishing the stuff that I have with Milwaukee.

“My goal is to win in Milwaukee, bring a championship in the city, and make the team a lot better.

“So I would never leave for L.A.”

Fuck Kawhi.

International guys are perfect for small markets. Less entitled, less greedy, not as concerned about "lifestyle", or status, or being in the spotlight.

Hopefully more elite international guys keep popping up as basketball continues to become more global.

[gambit1990]

i don’t blame kawhi for wanting to play for the lakers. he’s from riverside, grew up watching the lakers.

this could be handled better but he wants to go home...

and wanted to go there before lebron.

[YGWHI]

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/giannis-antetokounmpo-would-never-leave-for-los-angeles/

Giannis:

Would you ever leave Milwaukee if the Lakers came calling?

“To be honest with you, no. No way. I like finishing the stuff that I have with Milwaukee.

“My goal is to win in Milwaukee, bring a championship in the city, and make the team a lot better.

“So I would never leave for L.A.”

Fuck Kawhi.

To be fair, Kawhi already done it in previous seasons.

[Spurs9]

There's actually zero reasons why Kawhi couldn't change his representation. So the issue here is not Kawhi's agency/Spurs, it's Kawhi/Kawhi's agency.

I didn't know that, interesting...
So they are basically just putting out anything they can to get off San Antonio, when Kawhi isn't even the one leading it. Hes definately being taken advantage of with that agency, I just hope they don't have access to his actual dollars for "investments".

[FkLA]

To be fair, Kawhi already done it in previous seasons.

That isn't Kawhi's title to claim. That was the beautiful game's title.

[SpursBills]

International guys are perfect for small markets. Less entitled, less greedy, not as concerned about "lifestyle", or status, or being in the spotlight.

Hopefully more elite international guys keep popping up as basketball continues to become more global.

Yup. Cuban was smart enough to realize this. He got a superstar in Dirk that he was able to build around for 20 years and that's why he went all out for Doncic.

[CGD]

I agree Philly would be a perfect place for him plus their team Dr. has worked on him so they will know all facts regarding his injury. Only way a trade is going to get done is if both parties start working together so Kawhi camp give list to teams that u want to be traded to which would include Boston, Philly, Suns. You agree to trade that it won’t be a one year deal and will trade u to who ever gives us best deal. If you do no to this then will see you next season in a spurs warmups.

Could you imagine if Fultz comes back to Philly and lays an egg to start the season, while Kawhi comes back to the Spurs to play out contract and looks great?

How do you sell that to your fanbase? Yes we had a real shot a getting Leonard, but but but Fultz is Untouchable just one month after we were throwing him under the bus for losing his shot form. And god forbid Embid gets his ritual injury to start the season.

Philly also taking a risk in not moving on Leaonard now.

[Spurs9]

Yup. Cuban was smart enough to realize this. He got a superstar in Dirk that he was able to build around for 20 years and that's why he went all out for Doncic.
Its still amazing Dallas was able to get Doncic.

[gambit1990]

That isn't Kawhi's title to claim. That was the beautiful game's title.
FMVP, spurs don’t win title without him.

[Marcus Bryant]

I can't wait until 45 year old LeBron James decides he wants to play minor league baseball tbqh.

[SpursBills]

FMVP, spurs don’t win title without him.

What a silly statement. That's like saying Iguodala can claim the 2015 title

[SpursDynasty85]

FMVP, spurs don’t win title without him.

They dont win with TP, Danny Green, Duncan, Splitter, Mills. Miami was the easiest series besides the first round.

[gambit1990]

there’s no point in trying to minimize kawhi’s role.

[johnnymoore]

I think it's the Boogie Cousins scenario. Teams are extremely concerned about Kawhi's physical condition and do not want to break the bank and then find out the guy can't play.

IF he was coming off of a season where he played 70+ games and was All-NBA, the line of suitors would be out of the door. But no GM wants to trade a bunch of picks & top prospects for someone who may never play again. That's the quickest way to go from being an NBA GM to becoming a real estate agent.

[Vic Petro]

there’s no point in trying to minimize kawhi’s role.

[SPURt]

I think it's the Boogie Cousins scenario. Teams are extremely concerned about Kawhi's physical condition and do not want to break the bank and then find out the guy can't play.

IF he was coming off of a season where he played 70+ games and was All-NBA, the line of suitors would be out of the door. But no GM wants to trade a bunch of picks & top prospects for someone who may never play again. That's the quickest way to go from being an NBA GM to becoming a real estate agent.
It’d also be different if the Spurs offered him the super max and he declined. It’d show the Spurs believe in him that much but the Spurs did not, probably because he’d take it.

[Spurs da champs]

there’s no point in trying to minimize kawhi’s role.
Facts, Spurs were becoming mediocre till they got him. No ring without him.

[Marcus Bryant]

That isn't Kawhi's title to claim. That was the beautiful game's title.

Get a motherfucking rebound the year before, tbqh.

[FkLA]

FMVP, spurs don’t win title without him.

Of course they don't win it without him but that doesn't mean it's his title to claim. If Giannis brings a title to MIL he would be able to make that claim.


Yup. Cuban was smart enough to realize this. He got a superstar in Dirk that he was able to build around for 20 years and that's why he went all out for Doncic.

I honestly don't think Doncic will be franchise-guy level of good but if he is, then yeah super smart move by Cuban.

[ohmwrecker]

Disagree. Kawhi might have screwed SA really bad and there is a legit chance other teams don’t make offers.
What does that have to do with it? As it stands now, I can’t see the Lakers beating GSW. Even if they get Kawhi this year, it’s still pretty slim.

[YGWHI]

It’d also be different if the Spurs offered him the super max and he declined. It’d show the Spurs believe in him that much but the Spurs did not, probably because he’d take it.
He was ready to accept the extension just a few weeks ago, his camp leaked it to Jabari and Shams. Then the Spurs denied him the deal

With Kawhi in a long term contract, they would have many teams willing to give it all for him in 2021 FA. He plays this next and 2020 season in SA and then trade him for whatever Spurs want.

The Spurs would have looked elite for two seasons more and then get what they want in a trade.

It would have been way better than this zero-great offers/losing him for nothing.

[johnnymoore]

The Boston Celtics aren't prepared to mortgage their future to acquire San Antonio Spurs star Kawhi Leonard.

ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski reported the Celtics consider their top five players "off limits" in any negotiations with the Spurs. Wojnarowski added Boston is prepared to make a "pick-heavy" offer but that San Antonio is looking to add players as well:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2784530-kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-celtics-top-5-players-off-limits-in-talks

[SupremeGuy]

What a silly statement. That's like saying Iguodala can claim the 2015 titleHoly shit. Nigga can't counter.

[r0drig0lac]

Man, I really hope the group plays the race card, just for the sheer Civil War that would cause in the NBA.

You'd be playing the race card against the most outspoken liberal in all of american sports and the head coach of Team USA. Maybe they get some traction with the media and some players, but holy hell the wrath they would incur from the owners around the league. If Pop gets the race card pulled on him, what's to stop actual racist owners from getting it done to them. Even Uncle Tom MJ would put a hit on Dennis :lol

God, the backlash from the owners around the league and subsequent bind that Silver would be in would absolutely be worth it tbh....

that's exactly why they'll never try that sort of thing, Pop is the most respected man in the league, no one would stand next to Kawhi and his group

[CGD]

It’d also be different if the Spurs offered him the super max and he declined. It’d show the Spurs believe in him that much but the Spurs did not, probably because he’d take it.

Common now. Not offering the super max is less about the injury concern and more about the fear of being in this exact situation a year from now once Uncle Dennis and Impact Sports can aggitate for a trade for the first time after inking the super max.

Spurs, who are known to historically be cautious with player health/ resting players etc., said he was cleared to play back in January; If you believe Bill Simmons at least 6-7 doctors also cleared him and Leonard was shopping for one that would side with him; And it is now Leonards camp that is saying, magically, that he is now 100%.

The health excuse is bullshit, and teams know it. They’re just trying to exert “leverage” over the Spurs. And, spurs are correctly concerned that Leonards camp is just going to put them through the same bullshit next summer.

[spurschamps99030507]

The Boston Celtics aren't prepared to mortgage their future to acquire San Antonio Spurs star Kawhi Leonard.

ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski reported the Celtics consider their top five players "off limits" in any negotiations with the Spurs. Wojnarowski added Boston is prepared to make a "pick-heavy" offer but that San Antonio is looking to add players as well:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2784530-kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-celtics-top-5-players-off-limits-in-talks

fucking joke ainge...

[spursistan]

The Boston Celtics aren't prepared to mortgage their future to acquire San Antonio Spurs star Kawhi Leonard.

ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski reported the Celtics consider their top five players "off limits" in any negotiations with the Spurs. Wojnarowski added Boston is prepared to make a "pick-heavy" offer but that San Antonio is looking to add players as well:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2784530-kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-celtics-top-5-players-off-limits-in-talks

Does this nigga have any dignity left in him? Teams are flat out disrespecting him by putting unproven mediocrities like Ingram/Fultz and scrubby role player like Rozier, Kuzma off the table..

That's how much they value his autistic ass :lmao.

[CGD]

The Boston Celtics aren't prepared to mortgage their future to acquire San Antonio Spurs star Kawhi Leonard.

ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski reported the Celtics consider their top five players "off limits" in any negotiations with the Spurs. Wojnarowski added Boston is prepared to make a "pick-heavy" offer but that San Antonio is looking to add players as well:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2784530-kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-celtics-top-5-players-off-limits-in-talks

I wouldn’t poopoo a Boston package built around picks. Probably the only team I’d say that about. Problem is how do they make the salaries work without key players (just on numbers).

[YGWHI]

The Boston Celtics aren't prepared to mortgage their future to acquire San Antonio Spurs star Kawhi Leonard.

ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski reported the Celtics consider their top five players "off limits" in any negotiations with the Spurs. Wojnarowski added Boston is prepared to make a "pick-heavy" offer but that San Antonio is looking to add players as well:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2784530-kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-celtics-top-5-players-off-limits-in-talks


Unless the Spurs lower their asking price, though, the Celtics shouldn't take the risk.

Why would the Spurs trade him to Boston for less than one of Tatum/Brown? At least Philly offer was better even without Fultz.

[jjktkk]

I don't understand why they appear to have Fultz off limits. They barely played him last season and they would be adding Kawhi to Simmons/Embiid like you said. He has been working really hard and has alot of potential but why wouldn't Philly go at the chance right now? If he ends up in LA they probably won't be able to ever get him. And they have a good chance of making the finals with that team.

Its bartering. Philly, like the Lakers, want to keep their young talent, while trying to get the Spurs to take their 2nd level talent and draft picks.

[SPURt]

Common now. Not offering the super max is less about the injury concern and more about the fear of being in this exact situation a year from now once Uncle Dennis and Impact Sports can aggitate for a trade for the first time after inking the super max.

Spurs, who are known to historically be cautious with player health/ resting players etc., said he was cleared to play back in January; If you believe Bill Simmons at least 6-7 doctors also cleared him and Leonard was shopping for one that would side with him; And it is now Leonards camp that is saying, magically, that he is now 100%.

The health excuse is bullshit, and teams know it. They’re just trying to exert “leverage” over the Spurs. And, spurs are correctly concerned that Leonards camp is just going to put them through the same bullshit next summer.
I didn’t speculate as to the reason why the Spurs didn’t offer him the super max. I simply stated they did not and if they did, I believe, he takes the extension.

[SPURt]

He was ready to accept the extension just a few weeks ago, his camp leaked it to Jabari and Shams. Then the Spurs denied him the deal

With Kawhi in a long term contract, they would have many teams willing to give it all for him in 2021 FA. He plays this next and 2020 season in SA and then trade him for whatever Spurs want.

The Spurs would have looked elite for two seasons more and then get what they want in a trade.

It would have been way better than this zero-great offers/losing him for nothing.
The right here.

[Pavlov]

Well, Kawhi managed to reduce his trade value to low picks and borderline rotation players. :tu

[r0drig0lac]

there’s no point in trying to minimize kawhi’s role.

they're still going to repeat that shit day after day, it's useless

[barbacoataco]

Maybe teams don't want to pay up for Leonard because they think he might have a career threatening injury. In a normal case like this the Spurs would keep him and hope to trade before the deadline once he re-establishes his value on the court. But Leonard doesn't want to play anymore.

[Ron Swanson]

fucking joke ainge...

It's not surprising at all. Dude is tighter than a nun's twat.

[Vic Petro]

Woj/Bobby Marks podcast. Kawhi relevant portion begins 12:45 of part 1

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– Teams concerned about Kawhi’s representation. It’s an uncle and a football guy but no one with an NBA track record GMs can trust. GMs cannot go to ownership with confidence Kawhi will or won’t re-sign because there is no relationship or history with his reps.

— Woj contradicts recent Kawhi/Clippers reports. Says the idea of going to Clippers and head to head with Lebron and potentially being dwarfed by that does not appeal to Kawhi. (:lol What a pussy)

— Suggests the days of “godfather” trade offers are over because teams value draft picks and cheap contracts more than ever

— Talks about 5th year option not being the advantage for small markets that the NBA hoped it would

— Marks doesn’t think Spurs have the leverage they think they do (whatever that is supposed mean). They suggest offers might improve if Spurs allowed interested teams 24 hours to talk to Kawhi

— Woj says Sixers may have more medical info on Kawhi than the Spurs because their doctors have more access. (But can that doctor release a patient’s medical info to a team without permission just because he’s employed by that club?)

— Woj doesn’t think any party has the stomach for it but admits that the only way to increase value of trade return would be if Kawhi proves he’s a top 5-10 player again on the court

[RD2191]

PATFO just needs to shut the trade talks down so we can all move on to the upcoming season. The trade they want just isn't there so let Kawhi know so he can get ready to play for S.A. again.

[RD2191]

Kawhi killed his trade value when he said he'd only resign with the Lakers. He'd be gone by now otherwise. He did this to himself. Or his stupid fukin ground or whatever.

[gambit1990]

any recent reason to believe kawhi will take part in team usa?

i know he's skipped it before.

[SpursDynasty85]

fucking joke ainge...

It's their choice bro. No need to get mad.

[Marcus Bryant]

– Teams concerned about Kawhi’s representation. It’s an uncle and a football guy but no one with an NBA track record GMs can trust. GMs cannot go to ownership with confidence Kawhi will or won’t re-sign because there is no relationship or history with his reps.

Bingo. You don't get to hold out in the NBA and expect teams to not notice. Everyone knows what went down. That's why the trade offers are crap and 'the group' better be glad if the Spurs offer any more of the supermax than another team can offer him outright in free agency (assuming that everything checks out).

[spursistan]

PATFO should call off trade talks immediately and make this dude come to training camp, and then you can see what's going on..

[Marcus Bryant]

Never. Ever. Let a relative into your business unless they are good at what you need them to do.

[Marcus Bryant]

Laker fan jacking off thinking a trade's going to happen. :lol

[picnroll]

Not that I think the Spurs should take Ainge’s proposal but:

1. Celtics own all of their first round selections going forward.

2. Celtics get the Sacramento Kings first round pick in 2019. This option was picked up by the Celtics on trade with Philadelphia for first overall pick in 2017 NBA Draft.

3. The Celtics will get the L.A. Clippers first round pick in 2019 only if it's is No. 15 or later (1 to 14 are protected). If Celtics don't get the pick, it reverts to 2020 under same restrictions, from pick No. 15 and later. If the Celtics don't get that Clippers pick in 2020, they will receive the Clippers 2022 second round pick.

4. The Celtics will get the Memphis first round pick in 2019 if it is No. 9 overall or later; or No. 7 and later in 2020. Otherwise, the Celtics will receive the Memphis first round pick in 2021 with no restrictions.

[TekXX]

I agree, i seriously doubt at this point that anyone is going to give up more so Pop might as well just end it and tell Kawhitter to get ready to suit up in silver and black next year. Also tell him he better play or he'll make sure his agency is blackballed from the NBA.

[Clipper Nation]

— Woj contradicts recent Kawhi/Clippers reports. Says the idea of going to Clippers and head to head with Lebron and potentially being dwarfed by that does not appeal to Kawhi. (:lol What a pussy)

Of course Woj is saying that. He works for ESPN now, and the Lakers are ESPN's favorite team.

[Ron Swanson]

Never. Ever. Let a relative into your business unless they are good at what you need them to do.


But he was a bank manager!!!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

But he was a bank manager!!!


Teller. Not manager. Teller.

[SAGirl]

He was ready to accept the extension just a few weeks ago, his camp leaked it to Jabari and Shams. Then the Spurs denied him the deal

With Kawhi in a long term contract, they would have many teams willing to give it all for him in 2021 FA. He plays this next and 2020 season in SA and then trade him for whatever Spurs want.

The Spurs would have looked elite for two seasons more and then get what they want in a trade.

It would have been way better than this zero-great offers/losing him for nothing.
Can't believe every rumor but his camp started insisting on a no trade clause which made the Spurs back off. We shall see what happens tbh. So long as Spurs keep playing the long game there is hope. I just hope it doesn't backfire on them.

[mo7888]

Not that I think the Spurs should take Ainge’s proposal but:

1. Celtics own all of their first round selections going forward.

2. Celtics get the Sacramento Kings first round pick in 2019. This option was picked up by the Celtics on trade with Philadelphia for first overall pick in 2017 NBA Draft.

3. The Celtics will get the L.A. Clippers first round pick in 2019 only if it's is No. 15 or later (1 to 14 are protected). If Celtics don't get the pick, it reverts to 2020 under same restrictions, from pick No. 15 and later. If the Celtics don't get that Clippers pick in 2020, they will receive the Clippers 2022 second round pick.

4. The Celtics will get the Memphis first round pick in 2019 if it is No. 9 overall or later; or No. 7 and later in 2020. Otherwise, the Celtics will receive the Memphis first round pick in 2021 with no restrictions.

Obviously they can make a strong offer just based around picks. My question is what would the offer look like because they have to add salary to make it work under the current rules.

[Thomas82]

Damn. So this whole bending over for LA thing has been going on in the NBA forever then.

Yes it has. The Lakers even tried to get Bill Russell to come out of retirement and play with Wilt Chamberlain, either backing him up or at the 4.

[picnroll]

Problem with a no trade clause is he can sign it, start pulling the same shit to try to force himself onto the Lakers, contract in hand. Now Spurs will have to take a boatload of crap back just to match salaries. Who the fuck on the Spurs should trust Leonard and his group at this point?

[SpursDynasty85]

Problem with a no trade clause is he can sign it, start pulling the same shit to try to force himself onto the Lakers, contract in hand. Now Spurs will have to take a boatload of crap back just to match salaries. Who the fuck on the Spurs should trust Leonard and his group at this point?

Pretty much why all the gms are low balling the Spurs. Watch Cris Carter on FS1 and you can tell he is in serious pr mode for Kawhi. It's quite hilarious how apparent and tied he is to Kawhis group.

[sasaint]

Can't believe every rumor but his camp started insisting on a no trade clause which made the Spurs back off. We shall see what happens tbh. So long as Spurs keep playing the long game there is hope. I just hope it doesn't backfire on them.

:tu As a fan I am beyond ready to end the drama and have a team with a known roster to root for. But the Spurs gotta keep playing the long game.

[SpursDynasty85]

:tu As a fan I am beyond ready to end the drama and have a team with a known roster to root for. But the Spurs gotta keep playing the long game.

Yep. I'm only invested because I am so irritated by Kawhi's diva drama and dirty tactics. I'm over it. I'm okay if we lose Kawhi for nothing.

[daslicer]

Yep. I'm only invested because I am so irritated by Kawhi's diva drama and dirty tactics. I'm over it. I'm okay if we lose Kawhi for nothing.

Agreed the Spurs are only getting offered scrubs for him. So there is no point in trading him. Let him sweat it out next year by forcing him to play.

[james evans]

Does this nigga have any dignity left in him? Teams are flat out disrespecting him by putting unproven mediocrities like Ingram/Fultz and scrubby role player like Rozier, Kuzma off the table..

That's how much they value his autistic ass :lmao.
Nope, they know he’s leaving the spurs anyway. Why not wait a year instead of unloading your roster?

[spursistan]

1014328170093441026

:lol

[BatManu20]

1014328170093441026

:lol

What the fuck does his camp want..?! Jeusus Christ this is insane. They have an excuse to not like literally every possible trade scenario, yet they are the ones who are demanding the trade. This is fucking nuts

[RD2191]

So he wants to be the face of a franchise surrounded by scrubs? Spurs anyone? :lobt2: :lol

[BatManu20]

So he wants to be the face of a franchise surrounded by scrubs? Spurs anyone? :lobt2: :lol

:lol

[Holden_Caulfield]

trade him to orlando

[SpursDynasty85]

1014328170093441026

:lol

Lol. His agents are so greedy.

[CGD]

Not that I think the Spurs should take Ainge’s proposal but:

1. Celtics own all of their first round selections going forward.

2. Celtics get the Sacramento Kings first round pick in 2019. This option was picked up by the Celtics on trade with Philadelphia for first overall pick in 2017 NBA Draft.

3. The Celtics will get the L.A. Clippers first round pick in 2019 only if it's is No. 15 or later (1 to 14 are protected). If Celtics don't get the pick, it reverts to 2020 under same restrictions, from pick No. 15 and later. If the Celtics don't get that Clippers pick in 2020, they will receive the Clippers 2022 second round pick.

4. The Celtics will get the Memphis first round pick in 2019 if it is No. 9 overall or later; or No. 7 and later in 2020. Otherwise, the Celtics will receive the Memphis first round pick in 2021 with no restrictions.

For comparison, here are the assets that Philly can assemble if they insist on keeping Fultz (assuming Saric and Covington are still in the framework).

- 2021 Heat 1st
- Bolden rights
- Zharie Smith
- their own 1st from 2019-2021
- AP rights
- Residual rights to 2019 Satco 1st Pick (apparently they keep it if its #1)
- 2019 Kings 2nd
- exiting players: Kurkmaz and Luwawu

[Ron Swanson]

Trade him to East Central HS and be done with it.

[TekXX]

So he wants to be the face of a franchise surrounded by scrubs? Spurs anyone? :lobt2: :lol

Of course, im sure they'll settle for something that's super and has maximum impact and they'll stay, but they're not going to prove he's healthy, spurs will just have to take his word for it.

[Marcus Bryant]

Agreed the Spurs are only getting offered scrubs for him. So there is no point in trading him. Let him sweat it out next year by forcing him to play.

That's where this is at.

[NickiRasgo]

What the fuck does his camp want..?! Jeusus Christ this is insane. They have an excuse to not like literally every possible trade scenario, yet they are the ones who are demanding the trade. This is fucking nuts

Actually. :lol Maybe they literally wants to add a new team in NBA.

[BatManu20]

Someone needs to deneuralize this faggot and his entire fucking family. Then tell them all that Kawhi loves San Antonio and will finish his career there after winning multiple championships. At this point, it’s the only logical outcome to this wild goosechase tbh.


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[daslicer]

What the fuck does his camp want..?! Jeusus Christ this is insane. They have an excuse to not like literally every possible trade scenario, yet they are the ones who are demanding the trade. This is fucking nuts

His camp badly wants him to be a Laker. They are hoping the spurs will cave in and send him there for garbage.

[stu scotts eye]

Teller. Not manager. Teller.

Even if he was a bank manager. I know a ton of dumbass bank managers.... no degree required.

[NickiRasgo]

His camp badly wants him to be a Laker. They are hoping the spurs will cave in and send him there for garbage.

Well it contradicts tweet posted above:

"because he isn’t looking to join a super-team."?

Sending or joining him to the Lakers will be an instant super-team because of LeBron and Kawhi. It will be easier for them to add another star instantly because of those two.

[spurschamps99030507]

Adrian Wojnarowski: “Tony Parker’s gonna be an interesting because they’re trying to figure out in San Antonio what they’re doing. Can he sit around and wait for that? There is some money – Charlotte’s got some interest in him, think Denver might have a little interest. (http://art19.com/shows/thewojpod/episodes/8c6c6884-cb60-436c-980f-800125b8a136) Denver is looking for a backup point guard so that might be a veteran-minimum guy, but Charlotte has an exception and James Borrego, the new Hornets coach, coached him with the Spurs. And there’s others. There isn’t a team in the league who wouldn’t love to have Tony as a backup.”

http://art19.com/shows/thewojpod/episodes/8c6c6884-cb60-436c-980f-800125b8a136

[tonight...you]

Problem with a no trade clause is he can sign it, start pulling the same shit to try to force himself onto the Lakers, contract in hand. Now Spurs will have to take a boatload of crap back just to match salaries. Who the fuck on the Spurs should trust Leonard and his group at this point?
Not only are they incompetent and dragging his value down even further, but they are also extremely nefarious.
I have doubts about them gaining more clients as their reputation continues to diminish among GM's.

[daslicer]

Someone needs to deneuralize this faggot and his entire fucking family. Then tell them all that Kawhi loves San Antonio and will finish his career there after winning multiple championships. At this point, it’s the only logical outcome to this wild goosechase tbh.


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I would just use the deneuralizer on Kawhi and say "Your going to tell your uncle to fuck off and that he's a low down dirty scumbag. You are going to also disown your uncle and cut off all ties. You will tell the media that the Lakers are a shitty organization in which you have no intent of ever playing for."

[mo7888]

Adrian Wojnarowski: “Tony Parker’s gonna be an interesting because they’re trying to figure out in San Antonio what they’re doing. Can he sit around and wait for that? There is some money – Charlotte’s got some interest in him, think Denver might have a little interest. (http://art19.com/shows/thewojpod/episodes/8c6c6884-cb60-436c-980f-800125b8a136) Denver is looking for a backup point guard so that might be a veteran-minimum guy, but Charlotte has an exception and James Borrego, the new Hornets coach, coached him with the Spurs. And there’s others. There isn’t a team in the league who wouldn’t love to have Tony as a backup.”

http://art19.com/shows/thewojpod/episodes/8c6c6884-cb60-436c-980f-800125b8a136

C'mon Charlotte...do the right thing..

[tonight...you]

Someone needs to deneuralize this faggot and his entire fucking family. Then tell them all that Kawhi loves San Antonio and will finish his career there after winning multiple championships. At this point, it’s the only logical outcome to this wild goosechase tbh.


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lol

[cd021]

Harris, Boban, Shai '21, '23, '25 1sts, '21 2nd for Kawhi & Patty.

Man, four first rounders is a shit ton to give up, even for a Kawhi-though he would likely stay there, given reports.

Btw, they wouldn't need to go that far in the future to trade picks, when they can trade a likely lottery pick next year in 2019 then the '21 and '23 1st rounders.


Harris, Boban, Dekker, 2019 1st (1-14 unprotected to Spurs, 15-30 to Celtics) 2021 and '2023 1st round picks for Kawhi and Gasol would work and would slash about $12 million off this year's team salary

[mo7888]

For comparison, here are the assets that Philly can assemble if they insist on keeping Fultz (assuming Saric and Covington are still in the framework).

- 2021 Heat 1st
- Bolden rights
- Zharie Smith
- their own 1st from 2019-2021
- AP rights
- Residual rights to 2019 Satco 1st Pick (apparently they keep it if its #1)
- 2019 Kings 2nd
- exiting players: Kurkmaz and Luwawu

Fultz, Chandler, Saric, korkmaz, heat pick, sac residual pick, and Philly 1st in 2021.

[tonight...you]

I believe his group wants him to go to LA so bad is because they'll trust him/them more than any other team and they'll happily give him what he/they want.

Everybody else is looking at them and saying "ewww" right now.
That LA is only offering garbage is because they are completely confident they'll shoehorn his ass to that team no matter what as they try to establish themselves.