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Dex
06-28-2018, 10:42 AM
If Boston gives us Tatum and Kyrie screw the picks, I'd take that.

That cheapskate Ainge is probably dangling a fucking S&T for Rozier and a 2021 second-rounder.

SpursDynasty85
06-28-2018, 10:44 AM
I told y'all. They haven't offered it and this is the real reason he is "saying" he wants to go to the Lakers or Los Angeles for that matter.

There is no way they offer that. Lakers would prefer just sending him so they can pay him less money. Also, Spurs couldn't trade for 1 year, Kawhi ruins team chemistry for that year and the Spurs cant trade him because he has a no trade clause. It's too risky for the Spurs if the relationship is truly broken. To me, this relationship is not repairable.

BillMc
06-28-2018, 10:45 AM
If Kawhi was willing to commit, do you think they would actually offer that? Even with Kyrie with a year left, I would definitely take that deal.

I think Boston thinks Kyrie is gone so they're more willing to deal him than you'd expect. Especially with their success without him. Tatum is the tougher piece to get actually.

BatManu20
06-28-2018, 10:45 AM
Come on Ainge... Pony up and give us Tatum and a pick and we'll call it a day.

SpursDynasty85
06-28-2018, 10:46 AM
He is hedging :lmao..

Lol. It's like reading two opposite opinions by two different people.

look_at_g_shred
06-28-2018, 10:46 AM
That cheapskate Ainge is probably dangling a fucking S&T for Rozier and a 2021 second-rounder.
Soo true

Russ
06-28-2018, 10:46 AM
If Lonzo is traded somewhere, that most likley signals Kawhi is headed to LA.

That would be the second point guard that the Lakers took with the second pick in the entire draft that they had to unload in a fire sale.

Jeannie and Magic can blame Deangelo Russell on Kupchak -- Lonzo Ball is strictly on them.

Spurs9
06-28-2018, 10:46 AM
I think Boston thinks Kyrie is gone so they're more willing to deal him than you'd expect. Especially with their success without him. Tatum is the tougher piece to get actually.
Yeah I think Kyrie is probably included in any deal, baseline would need to be him with tatum or brown.

bklynspursfan
06-28-2018, 10:46 AM
Didn't Kyrie say he wanted to play in SA? Or rather wasn't it reported when he wanted out in Cleveland that we were one of the few teams?

Mr. Body
06-28-2018, 10:47 AM
I think Boston thinks Kyrie is gone so they're more willing to deal him than you'd expect. Especially with their success without him. Tatum is the tougher piece to get actually.

Boston needs to get rid of one of their big buck guys or else they're facing tons of pain in the near future

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 10:47 AM
Lol. It's like reading two opposite opinions by two different people.

He's been contradicting himself during this whole thing, like if his "sources" are coming from the two teams. I don't know what to believe.

Like he'll say one thing on one tweet and then immediately contradict himself minutes later with a following tweet. It's a mindfuck.

picnroll
06-28-2018, 10:47 AM
If Boston is Spurs preference they have to be asking for Tatum.

BillMc
06-28-2018, 10:47 AM
That cheapskate Ainge is probably dangling a fucking S&T for Rozier and a 2021 second-rounder.


Clam chowder, a Steven Tyler autographed bong and one Patriots ticket (regular season)

look_at_g_shred
06-28-2018, 10:47 AM
Didn't Kyrie say he wanted to play in SA? Or rather wasn't it reported when he wanted out in Cleveland that we were one of the few teams?
yea there was a 200+ thread on it last summer

Spurs9
06-28-2018, 10:47 AM
That would be the second point guard that the Lakers took with the second pick in the entire draft that they had to unload in a fire sale.

Jeannie and Magic can blame Deangelo Russell on Kupchak -- Lonzo Ball is strictly on them.

I think Lonzo will be really good, he has good instincts, they wouldn't even consider a trade most likely if big baller brand wasn't around. He will eventually improve his shot.

look_at_g_shred
06-28-2018, 10:48 AM
Give me kyrie and brown plus a pick and we good

Spurs4#5
06-28-2018, 10:49 AM
It’s probably not just kawhi they’re shopping. It’s probably gasol and Danny green as well. So I’m sure this won’t happen today or even tomorrow. I have my money on it being a 3 or 4 team trade

RD2191
06-28-2018, 10:49 AM
Woj has multiple personality disorder tbh imo

MoSpur02
06-28-2018, 10:49 AM
There is no way they offer that. Lakers would prefer just sending him so they can pay him less money. Also, Spurs couldn't trade for 1 year, Kawhi ruins team chemistry for that year and the Spurs cant trade him because he has a no trade clause. It's too risky for the Spurs if the relationship is truly broken. To me, this relationship is not repairable.

Just saying it's obvious the Spurs haven't offered the supermax, which I'm okay with. It's too much money for a guy coming off an injury that caused him to miss almost the whole season. He obviously wants the supermax. The Spurs are obviously reluctant to give it to him.

SpursDynasty85
06-28-2018, 10:50 AM
Give me kyrie and brown plus a pick and we good

Especially if they take Gasol. I wonder if that frees up cap room.

Texas_Ranger
06-28-2018, 10:50 AM
Irving + one of brown or tatum and i'll gladly say fuck off kawhi

bklynspursfan
06-28-2018, 10:50 AM
Should we expect a Shams tweet soon? Lately when Woj posts something about the Spurs, Shams puts something out there with more info/details and or something different.

baseline bum
06-28-2018, 10:51 AM
Only way the Spurs should make a trade this week is if it's for Tatum and the Sacramento or Memphis pick, plus whatever crap other than Horford that Boston needs to throw in to make the trade legal. Ingram + Kuzma is a trade you make in a month or two if all other options have been exhausted.

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 10:52 AM
It’s probably not just kawhi they’re shopping. It’s probably gasol and Danny green as well. So I’m sure this won’t happen today or even tomorrow. I have my money on it being a 3 or 4 team trade

Yeah send them out too. I'm ready.

look_at_g_shred
06-28-2018, 10:52 AM
So stein reports that the spurs are ready to move on from Kawhi but then Woj says that spurs can still try and salvage the relationship ???? This shit is frustrating man

bklynspursfan
06-28-2018, 10:52 AM
yea there was a 200+ thread on it last summer

Thought so... So he'd probably be cool with that

Dverde
06-28-2018, 10:52 AM
Any straight up deal from Boston will have to include either Kyrie, Hayward, or two of Morris, Brown or Tatum.

Dex
06-28-2018, 10:53 AM
Clam chowder, a Steven Tyler autographed bong and one Patriots ticket (regular season)

:lol What the frick!? I did NOT order that...I ordered an XBox card!

Mugen
06-28-2018, 10:53 AM
:lol RC and Pop couldn't even make it a full two weeks, i told you they don't have the stomach for this.

MoSpur02
06-28-2018, 10:53 AM
Jabari has been very quiet for awhile now in regards to this whole Kawhi situation

Dex
06-28-2018, 10:54 AM
So stein reports that the spurs are ready to move on from Kawhi but then Woj says that spurs can still try and salvage the relationship ???? This shit is frustrating man

Apparently all you have to do to be a reputable journalist these days is throw out every possibility and then act like a prophet when one of them inevitably develops.

objective
06-28-2018, 10:54 AM
Woj's follow up tweet probably came following push back from the Spurs

TimDunkem
06-28-2018, 10:55 AM
Wait so they didn't even offer the Supermax??? Wtf is going on?

MoSpur02
06-28-2018, 10:55 AM
His uncle is holding out for the supermax. The Spurs are not wanting to offer it until they get the 100 from the medical standpoint

Vic Petro
06-28-2018, 10:56 AM
Only way the Spurs should make a trade this week is if it's for Tatum and the Sacramento or Memphis pick, plus whatever crap other than Horford that Boston needs to throw in to make the trade legal. Ingram + Kuzma is a trade you make in a month or two if all other options have been exhausted.

exstatic
06-28-2018, 10:56 AM
I don't understand people who don't want to trade Kawhi to the Lakers.... ok he may want only lakers and we will fulfill his desire but if the trade give us randle kuzma and ingram + pick/picks ( at least ingram randle and picks) , imo we would not find better young guys with another team.

So if it's the better offer i'm ok with it.

Ingram is a huge question mark, Kuzma is a warm body, and those picks will be shit, once Kawhi gets there.

Fultz has both a higher ceiling and lower floor than Ingram, Saric is...euro Kuzma, but that pick...that 2021 Miami pick is UNPROTECTED and could win you the lottery. Even Boston's Sacto is top 1 protected against a lottery win.

Mugen
06-28-2018, 10:56 AM
Wait so they didn't even offer the Supermax??? Wtf is going on?

There have never been reports that Kawhi turned down the supermax.

Only dumbass Laker fans and casual fans thought that Leonard turned it down.

Russ
06-28-2018, 10:58 AM
Plus he tweeted that the Spurs can take their time and maybe offer the supermax.

The Supermax requires some trust it would seem.

What would prevent Kawhi from signing the SuperMax (with a no-trade) then sitting out another season and demanding a trade to the Lakers.

The Spurs would probably get even less and Kawhi would get his Supermax (which the Lakers couldn't otherwise offer him).

Without trust, nothing works.

Uriel
06-28-2018, 10:58 AM
So stein reports that the spurs are ready to move on from Kawhi but then Woj says that spurs can still try and salvage the relationship ???? This shit is frustrating man
Woj said they're fully engaged in trade talks.

Mark in Austin
06-28-2018, 10:59 AM
3 Way bidding war between Boston, Philly and LA is nice.

Hey Ainge, if Justice Winslow was worth 4 #1 picks to you, we expect a lot more for Kawhi... :bobo

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 10:59 AM
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lmbebo
06-28-2018, 10:59 AM
Kyrie is a nice piece alongside another star. But you are getting him for 1 year. I think he goes to Brooklyn next year.

Spurs9
06-28-2018, 10:59 AM
So stein reports that the spurs are ready to move on from Kawhi but then Woj says that spurs can still try and salvage the relationship ???? This shit is frustrating man

Its a negotiating tactic, they are playing the "We have lots of options we may just keep him and lock him up". Teams like the Lakers panic and it ups the trade package. He will be traded.

Uriel
06-28-2018, 11:00 AM
Woj saying they're fully engaged in trade talks and Stein saying they're ready to move on from Kawhi. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets moved in the next 24 hours.

I really hope I'm wrong.

TimDunkem
06-28-2018, 11:00 AM
There have never been reports that Kawhi turned down the supermax.

Only dumbass Laker fans and casual fans thought that Leonard turned it down.

I wasn't sure. I thought there was a bit maybe a week before it was reported Leonard wanted out that the Spurs were willing to offer the Supermax now. With all the other tweets about the Spurs being hopeful to keep him, I figured the SM was on the table. Guess not.

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 11:00 AM
Kyrie is a nice piece alongside another star. But you are getting him for 1 year. I think he goes to Brooklyn next year.

I get what you're saying but the Spurs were on his preferred list a year ago of teams that he wanted to play for.

Spurs9
06-28-2018, 11:01 AM
Woj saying they're fully engaged in trade talks and Stein saying they're ready to move on from Kawhi. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets moved in the next 24 hours.

I really hope I'm wrong.
I think he gets moved before FA starts.

Dex
06-28-2018, 11:02 AM
I get what you're saying but the Spurs were on his preferred list a year ago of teams that he wanted to play for.

That was also when he had Kawhi and LMA to play alongside.

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 11:02 AM
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bklynspursfan
06-28-2018, 11:02 AM
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Extra Stout
06-28-2018, 11:02 AM
The media is freaking out because LeBron has given the Lakers a deadline.

Nothing for the Spurs has changed.

They are not in a hurry.

They are not afraid to let Kawhi walk in free agency in a year.

They are not going to trade for crap they don’t want just for the sake of getting something.

They understand that they’ll get 50 cents on the dollar at best.

They are not going to hand $219 million to a player, regardless of talent, who malingered and quit on his team for most of a season, unless they see a change in which he mans up and takes accountability for his behavior.

Because if he doesn’t, you can’t build a team around him anyway.

So they are fine with moving on.

But they are willing to keep the door open should he have a change of heart, up until someone offers a trade they like, or he leaves in free agency.

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 11:03 AM
That was also when he had Kawhi and LMA to play alongside.

Yeah true that. But now we have Lonnie Walker IV! Version # IV!

spursistan
06-28-2018, 11:03 AM
The media is freaking out because LeBron has given the Lakers a deadline.

Nothing for the Spurs has changed.

They are not in a hurry.

They are not afraid to let Kawhi walk in free agency in a year.

They are not going to trade for crap they don’t want just for the sake of getting something.

They understand that they’ll get 50 cents on the dollar at best.

They are not going to hand $219 million to a player, regardless of talent, who malingered and quit on his team for most of a season, unless they see a change in which he mans up and takes accountability for his behavior.

Because if he doesn’t, you can’t build a team around him anyway.

So they are fine with moving on.

But they are willing to keep the door open should he have a change of heart, up until someone offers a trade they like, or he leaves in free agency.

:tu

Mr. Body
06-28-2018, 11:05 AM
His uncle is holding out for the supermax. The Spurs are not wanting to offer it until they get the 100 from the medical standpoint

I think this was always about the supermax and it went out of control

FvckMavs
06-28-2018, 11:06 AM
The media is freaking out because LeBron has given the Lakers a deadline.

Nothing for the Spurs has changed.

They are not in a hurry.

They are not afraid to let Kawhi walk in free agency in a year.

They are not going to trade for crap they don’t want just for the sake of getting something.

They understand that they’ll get 50 cents on the dollar at best.

They are not going to hand $219 million to a player, regardless of talent, who malingered and quit on his team for most of a season, unless they see a change in which he mans up and takes accountability for his behavior.

Because if he doesn’t, you can’t build a team around him anyway.

So they are fine with moving on.

But they are willing to keep the door open should he have a change of heart, up until someone offers a trade they like, or he leaves in free agency.

This

exstatic
06-28-2018, 11:06 AM
The media is freaking out because LeBron has given the Lakers a deadline.

Nothing for the Spurs has changed.

They are not in a hurry.

They are not afraid to let Kawhi walk in free agency in a year.

They are not going to trade for crap they don’t want just for the sake of getting something.

They understand that they’ll get 50 cents on the dollar at best.

They are not going to hand $219 million to a player, regardless of talent, who malingered and quit on his team for most of a season, unless they see a change in which he mans up and takes accountability for his behavior.

Because if he doesn’t, you can’t build a team around him anyway.

So they are fine with moving on.

But they are willing to keep the door open should he have a change of heart, up until someone offers a trade they like, or he leaves in free agency.

SO

MUCH

THIS

mudyez
06-28-2018, 11:06 AM
The media is freaking out because LeBron has given the Lakers a deadline.

Nothing for the Spurs has changed.

They are not in a hurry.

They are not afraid to let Kawhi walk in free agency in a year.

They are not going to trade for crap they don’t want just for the sake of getting something.

They understand that they’ll get 50 cents on the dollar at best.

They are not going to hand $219 million to a player, regardless of talent, who malingered and quit on his team for most of a season, unless they see a change in which he mans up and takes accountability for his behavior.

Because if he doesn’t, you can’t build a team around him anyway.

So they are fine with moving on.

But they are willing to keep the door open should he have a change of heart, up until someone offers a trade they like, or he leaves in free agency.

:tu

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 11:08 AM
The media is freaking out because LeBron has given the Lakers a deadline.

Nothing for the Spurs has changed.

They are not in a hurry.

They are not afraid to let Kawhi walk in free agency in a year.

They are not going to trade for crap they don’t want just for the sake of getting something.

They understand that they’ll get 50 cents on the dollar at best.

They are not going to hand $219 million to a player, regardless of talent, who malingered and quit on his team for most of a season, unless they see a change in which he mans up and takes accountability for his behavior.

Because if he doesn’t, you can’t build a team around him anyway.

So they are fine with moving on.

But they are willing to keep the door open should he have a change of heart, up until someone offers a trade they like, or he leaves in free agency.

My nigga E_S with the rational bomb.

TheGreatYacht
06-28-2018, 11:08 AM
Just got the notification on my phone. Magic really did it :wow :wow

MoSpur02
06-28-2018, 11:08 AM
Boston is just as cautious as the Spurs. The Celtics probably know that the Spurs haven't offered the supermax and are wondering why.

From what I'm told and how I understand it, is the Spurs won't offer the supermax until they get some kind of clearance that he's 100% healthy.

Mr. Body
06-28-2018, 11:10 AM
The media is freaking out because LeBron has given the Lakers a deadline.

Nothing for the Spurs has changed.

They are not in a hurry.

They are not afraid to let Kawhi walk in free agency in a year.

They are not going to trade for crap they don’t want just for the sake of getting something.

They understand that they’ll get 50 cents on the dollar at best.

They are not going to hand $219 million to a player, regardless of talent, who malingered and quit on his team for most of a season, unless they see a change in which he mans up and takes accountability for his behavior.

Because if he doesn’t, you can’t build a team around him anyway.

So they are fine with moving on.

But they are willing to keep the door open should he have a change of heart, up until someone offers a trade they like, or he leaves in free agency.

Yeah, and they may be willing to put him on the court in pre-season to show that he's still able to play. There are portions. They don't need to move.

MoSpur02
06-28-2018, 11:11 AM
I think this was always about the supermax and it went out of control

Exactly

exstatic
06-28-2018, 11:11 AM
Just got the notification on my phone. Magic really did it :wow :wow

The internet would have broken, especially Twitter. There's nothing on a Google search.

Gordy58
06-28-2018, 11:11 AM
Rumblings of a Godfather Lakers offer for San Antonio's Kawhi Leonard have rival teams wondering if anyone else can compete here. The latest summer of LeBron has officially begun...

bklynspursfan
06-28-2018, 11:11 AM
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Trueblood
06-28-2018, 11:12 AM
Talking to the Celtics and Lakers sends a simple message to the Cavs:

You want LeBron to stay;

Kawhi is your best shot to make that happen;

Give us a good deal or watch them both in Lakers uniforms next year.

Eaglenole2002
06-28-2018, 11:12 AM
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Clipper Nation
06-28-2018, 11:12 AM
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Leverage play. Magic is clearly freaking out at the prospect of the Celtics getting Kawhi.

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 11:13 AM
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Capt Bringdown
06-28-2018, 11:13 AM
You have to put emotion behind you, and look after yourself. You keep Kawhi next year and he walks for nothing. He’s leaving so might as well get the best start to a rebuild/retool . Kawhi gives you a headstart.

Yes, but not to the Lakers. Emotions? Trading Leonard to the Lakers is an irrational move.

First, the Lakers aren't offering anything special. Adding what they're offering would possibly improve our roster, but so would other moves.

Second, Leonard to the Lakers creates a super-team overnight, as LBJ will most likely go west to LA once Leonard is on board.

It is irrational for the Spurs to create another super-power out west.

MoSpur02
06-28-2018, 11:13 AM
Jabari finally tweeted

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 11:13 AM
You have enough assets Sixers and Celtics, you just have to give them up.

bklynspursfan
06-28-2018, 11:13 AM
I'm shocked Jabari isn't pushing for Philly

BillMc
06-28-2018, 11:13 AM
:lol What the frick!? I did NOT order that...I ordered an XBox card!
:lmao

Russ
06-28-2018, 11:14 AM
From what I'm told and how I understand it, is the Spurs won't offer the supermax until they get some kind of clearance that he's 100% healthy.

More importantly, no trade (even if agreed to) will be completed if Kawhi's not 100% healthy.

That's another layer of drama we'll have to endure if a trade happens, e.g., would the ever-honest Kawhi tank the physical?

baseline bum
06-28-2018, 11:14 AM
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WTF is that supposed to mean? The Lakers don't have anything worth a shit to offer.

Dex
06-28-2018, 11:14 AM
I'm shocked Jabari isn't pushing for Philly

Clown doesn't know anything more than has been discussed here for the last 30 pages.

spursistan
06-28-2018, 11:14 AM
The only thing that has changed over the past month or so is that the Spurs are definitely ready to move on from him, but they are not going to be railroaded into it-- neither by Kawhi camp, nor by a pro-Lakers media frenzy..

BatManu20
06-28-2018, 11:15 AM
Define “Godfather Lakers offer.” In Magic’s eyes, that probably Ingram + Kuzma + a couple picks.


Still wouldn’t do it.

SpursDynasty85
06-28-2018, 11:15 AM
Boston is just as cautious as the Spurs. The Celtics probably know that the Spurs haven't offered the supermax and are wondering why.

From what I'm told and how I understand it, is the Spurs won't offer the supermax until they get some kind of clearance that he's 100% healthy.

Can't trade the guy if he gets a super max anyway. Kawhi and his camp are rumored to want a no trade clause. This coupled with the distrust is probably a no brainer not to offer that sort of contract.

SupremeGuy
06-28-2018, 11:15 AM
The media is freaking out because LeBron has given the Lakers a deadline.

Nothing for the Spurs has changed.

They are not in a hurry.

They are not afraid to let Kawhi walk in free agency in a year.

They are not going to trade for crap they don’t want just for the sake of getting something.

They understand that they’ll get 50 cents on the dollar at best.

They are not going to hand $219 million to a player, regardless of talent, who malingered and quit on his team for most of a season, unless they see a change in which he mans up and takes accountability for his behavior.

Because if he doesn’t, you can’t build a team around him anyway.

So they are fine with moving on.

But they are willing to keep the door open should he have a change of heart, up until someone offers a trade they like, or he leaves in free agency.:bobo

look_at_g_shred
06-28-2018, 11:16 AM
Wasn't there supposed to be suns trade going down?

MoSpur02
06-28-2018, 11:16 AM
I think that report from S.A.S about him being open to playing for the Clippers means Kawhi doesn't really wanna play with LeBron if he can help it. I'm sure LeBron has contacted Kawhi and probably got the feeling Kawhi doesn't wanna play with him.

Jerry West would love Kawhi and I am sure he is quietly trying to put something together to try to get Kawhi

duncan2150
06-28-2018, 11:16 AM
Ingram is a huge question mark, Kuzma is a warm body, and those picks will be shit, once Kawhi gets there.

Fultz has both a higher ceiling and lower floor than Ingram, Saric is...euro Kuzma, but that pick...that 2021 Miami pick is UNPROTECTED and could win you the lottery. Even Boston's Sacto is top 1 protected against a lottery win.

you forget randle, i don't like much a kuzma ingram pack but if we could have those three plus picks i'll be ok . Except Brow from Boston i don't see better options for youth ( not mentioning tatum).

And you could not say fultz is a better prospect than ingram now, maybe but we don't know.... Fultz , Saric plus picks is not enough for me or equal to randle ingram +/- kuzma and picks.

ernest787
06-28-2018, 11:16 AM
WTF is that supposed to mean? The Lakers don't have anything worth a shit to offer.

That's what I dont get. Everyone keeps talking about these great package the Lakers can put together but everything mentioned sucks.

Kevin O'Connor was talking about this and said if the Lakers put Ingram and kuzma on the table no one can compete with that unless Boston puts Tatum up.

Wtf O'Connor.... that package sucks. If all we get is Ingram and kuzma I'm going to be pissed.

picnroll
06-28-2018, 11:17 AM
More importantly, no trade (even if agreed to) will be completed if Kawhi's not 100% healthy.

That's another layer of drama we'll have to endure if a trade happens, e.g., would the ever-honest Kawhi tank the physical?

That’s an easy one. They’ll just show the team medical reports and radiology images from March until now showing them nothing was wrong with Leonard. Confidential of course.

SpursDynasty85
06-28-2018, 11:17 AM
WTF is that supposed to mean? The Lakers don't have anything worth a shit to offer.

If they trade Lonzo Ball or sign and trade Julius Randle to get assets and couple that with Ingram and Kuzma, what more could the Spurs ask for? They will obviously get a pick or two.

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 11:17 AM
I'm shocked Jabari isn't pushing for Philly

Only a matter of time.

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baseline bum
06-28-2018, 11:18 AM
If they trade Lonzo Ball or sign and trade Julius Randle to get assets and couple that with Ingram and Kuzma, what more could the Spurs ask for? They will obviously get a pick or two.

The Spurs could not get Randle and that would be better than getting him, for instance.

bklynspursfan
06-28-2018, 11:18 AM
Clown doesn't know anything more than has been discussed here for the last 30 pages.

Word.. But ESPN has their angle. They want him in LA probably more than he wants to be. Jabari said not sure East teams have assets, that's just incorrect.

Russ
06-28-2018, 11:19 AM
Define “Godfather Lakers offer.” In Magic’s eyes, that probably Ingram + Kuzma + a couple picks.

Still wouldn’t do it.

I honestly think that five years from now, that might look like steal for the Spurs . . .

objective
06-28-2018, 11:19 AM
There is no godfather offer that could come from LA, that's a joke

Even if it was Ingram+kuzma plus unprotected 2019, 2021, 2023, and 2025 firsts with optional pick swaps in 2020, 2022 and 2024.

And that should be the minimum

Russ
06-28-2018, 11:20 AM
That’s an easy one. They’ll just show the team medical reports and radiology images from March until now showing them nothing was wrong with Leonard. Confidential of course.

I'm pretty sure they'd want an independent medical exam . . .

Clipper Nation
06-28-2018, 11:20 AM
WTF is that supposed to mean? The Lakers don't have anything worth a shit to offer.

:lol No kidding. I'm picturing Magic adding two more scrubs to his already garbage offer and thinking that PATFO couldn't possibly turn them down this time.

bklynspursfan
06-28-2018, 11:20 AM
Only a matter of time.

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:lol There it is!

bklynspursfan
06-28-2018, 11:20 AM
If we trade him for AD (i know it's not possible) would playing in New Orleans, LA still be considered LA for him and his camp?

offset formation
06-28-2018, 11:22 AM
The night life for black celebrities is not all that in SA. Got a feeling its more about culture.

Stop. First, the quote is "playing" not "living." Second Kawhi is not a night life guy during the season anyways. He's got a young family at home and is barely even seen out during the offseason.

BillMc
06-28-2018, 11:22 AM
I am not sure Kawhi and LeBron and a roster full of minimum contracts beats the Warriors. Or even the Rockets, tbh. One injury to the big 2 (one who is 34 and long over due, and another who is injury prone) and they're even lottery bound.

SpursDynasty85
06-28-2018, 11:22 AM
Word.. But ESPN has their angle. They want him in LA probably more than he wants to be. Jabari said not sure East teams have assets, that's just incorrect.

East teams are negotiating on a possible 1 yr rental basis. You cannot sell the farm and lose a player the next year. Your fans and ownership will fire whichever gm did the move.

cd98
06-28-2018, 11:22 AM
Funny b/c we don't even know if the Spurs offered the supermax or, if they did, if he would take it. That's the most basic part of all of this and we don't even know that.

SPURt
06-28-2018, 11:23 AM
If we trade him for AD (i know it's not possible) would playing in New Orleans, LA still be considered LA for him and his camp?
the only chance that happens is if NOLA accepts the Lakers garbage and flips AD for Kawhi.

objective
06-28-2018, 11:24 AM
That’s an easy one. They’ll just show the team medical reports and radiology images from March until now showing them nothing was wrong with Leonard. Confidential of course.

Teams have waived physicals before, it's not a big deal. The waiving of the physical will be part if the trade

Besides, the physical would be hard for Kawhi to tank. He's already been cleared by the Spurs.
It's all pain management anyway supposedly solved by Philly doctor's rehab plan

TheGreatYacht
06-28-2018, 11:24 AM
Define “Godfather Lakers offer.” In Magic’s eyes, that probably Ingram + Kuzma + a couple picks.


Still wouldn’t do it.
The Lakers are the ones that wouldn't do it :lol

Spurs fans lmao. Think they have any leverage here lol

Clipper Nation
06-28-2018, 11:24 AM
I am not sure Kawhi and LeBron and a roster full of minimum contracts beats the Warriors. Or even the Rockets, tbh. One injury to the big 2 (one who is 34 and long over due, and another who is injury prone) and they're even lottery bound.

Zero chance that team beats the Warriors. You could add Paul George to that team too and they'd still have no chance against the Warriors.

MoSpur02
06-28-2018, 11:25 AM
Funny b/c we don't even know if the Spurs offered the supermax or, if they did, if he would take it. That's the most basic part of all of this and we don't even know that.

They haven't offered it because of the medical issue

NickiRasgo
06-28-2018, 11:25 AM
Hard to believe isn't? That the Spurs are currently the center of discussion this off-season, after all of years being an "under the radar team".

TimDunkem
06-28-2018, 11:26 AM
The Lakers are the ones that wouldn't do it :lol

Spurs fans lmao. Think they have any leverage here lol

"Make them bid against each other, RC!! I know you would never make a bad deal!!! :cry"

objective
06-28-2018, 11:26 AM
That's what I dont get. Everyone keeps talking about these great package the Lakers can put together but everything mentioned sucks.

Kevin O'Connor was talking about this and said if the Lakers put Ingram and kuzma on the table no one can compete with that unless Boston puts Tatum up.

Wtf O'Connor.... that package sucks. If all we get is Ingram and kuzma I'm going to be pissed.

Kevin O'Conner is a tool who talks shit about the Spurs on Reddit, he's not a credible basketball mind, just a biased blowhard

SpursDynasty85
06-28-2018, 11:27 AM
The Spurs could not get Randle and that would be better than getting him, for instance.

Not sure what you mean there. Since Julius Randle is a RFA they could match any offer sheet and then trade him I thought. Either way, they have lots of assets so they can trade lonzo for a future lottery pick, give them the next years first round as well as possibly add Kuzma, Ingram, Hart
.. has any amount more ever been offered in a trade? Just saying causing Lakers to sell the farm, the Spurs would have to consider vs the East teams that would are negotiating under a possible 1 yr lease of Kawhi.

mudyez
06-28-2018, 11:27 AM
The only players mentioned I like are Saric and Tatum (unless you count Hayward), but Tatum won't happen and Philly can't put together a package around Saric that makes sense (Fultz doesn't with Murray on our team).

That said, if no major shakeups (three teamers) happen, I'm all for keeping Kawhi and see what happens.

Russ
06-28-2018, 11:28 AM
Teams have waived physicals before, it's not a big deal. The waiving of the physical will be part if the trade


The GM that goes for that definitely has his neck on the chopping block . . .

Texas_Ranger
06-28-2018, 11:29 AM
Only a matter of time.

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Wow, being a journalist is so fucking easy. I could just writr that the Spurs could trade kawhi to anyone. Amazing

exstatic
06-28-2018, 11:30 AM
you forget randle, i don't like much a kuzma ingram pack but if we could have those three plus picks i'll be ok . Except Brow from Boston i don't see better options for youth ( not mentioning tatum).

And you could not say fultz is a better prospect than ingram now, maybe but we don't know.... Fultz , Saric plus picks is not enough for me or equal to randle ingram +/- kuzma and picks.

I doubt the Spurs even want Randle. He's in line to get paid more than Kawhi is making, while only showing flashes for like half a season of his career. Oh, and he can't shoot.

Fultz is both a better and worse prospect than Ingram, which is exactly what higher ceiling and lower floor means. Of the two, he's more likely to both bust out, or break out and be a star. You have to take that chance when you're getting fifty cents or less on the dollar in a trade, and hope to catch lighting in a bottle. LA has nothing remotely like that Miami 2021 unprotected pick, and that's the deal tipper for me.

lmbebo
06-28-2018, 11:30 AM
There is no godfather offer that could come from LA, that's a joke

Even if it was Ingram+kuzma plus unprotected 2019, 2021, 2023, and 2025 firsts with optional pick swaps in 2020, 2022 and 2024.

And that should be the minimum

Was thinking the same on the way to work :D

objective
06-28-2018, 11:30 AM
The GM that goes for that definitely has his neck on the chopping block . . .

Pop and Spurs waived the physical for Charles Smith after he failed it when the Knicks added cash to the deal

In the end it wasn't even his bad knees that ended his career but his ankles

baseline bum
06-28-2018, 11:32 AM
Not sure what you mean there. Since Julius Randle is a RFA they could match any offer sheet and then trade him I thought. Either way, they have lots of assets so they can trade lonzo for a future lottery pick, give them the next years first round as well as possibly add Kuzma, Ingram, Hart
.. has any amount more ever been offered in a trade? Just saying causing Lakers to sell the farm, the Spurs would have to consider vs the East teams that would are negotiating under a possible 1 yr lease of Kawhi.

I mean Randle would be a negative in a trade. Paying a 4 year, $108 million max deal for that pos sounds horrible.

TheGreatYacht
06-28-2018, 11:32 AM
"Make them bid against each other, RC!! I know you would never make a bad deal!!! :cry"
:lmao

They can get Lonzo and they'll love it.

Mr. Body
06-28-2018, 11:32 AM
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Really trying to get other teams involved

spurs10
06-28-2018, 11:33 AM
Clam chowder, a Steven Tyler autographed bong and one Patriots ticket (regular season) The autographed bong and Kyrie and Tatum should get her done!!


Funny b/c we don't even know if the Spurs offered the supermax or, if they did, if he would take it. That's the most basic part of all of this and we don't even know that. Woj said earlier that they wouldn't offer it unless they have confirmation that he's healthy. Makes sense after sitting out an entire season!

Russ
06-28-2018, 11:35 AM
Pop and Spurs waived the physical for Charles Smith after he failed it when the Knicks added cash to the deal

In the end it wasn't even his bad knees that ended his career but his ankles

The Lakers, in their desperation, might waive the physical.

I don't think there's any way in hell Boston or Philly would.

objective
06-28-2018, 11:35 AM
Been watching Ingram highlight videos in case the Spurs fold like pathetic cowards

Not impressive at all, and that's the highlights! Looks like Kyle Anderson willing to shoot long twos. Slow.

Nothing to get excited about

No wonder the Lakers want to get rid of him. Even weak, quitting Kawhi in his last 3 games as a Spur was about 10 times better, easy.

MoSpur02
06-28-2018, 11:35 AM
Here is my breakdown:

Kawhi and Spurs meet and he asks for the supermax. Spurs say no.

Kawhi then leaks that he doesn't want to play for the Spurs anymore and prefers to go to L.A. This is done to try to get leverage and to try to force the Spurs to trade him to L.A.

Spurs and Kawhi meet again and again he asks for the $219 million. Spurs are a little more open to it, but only if they get a guarantee that he's 100% healthy, which is why Kawhi's camp leaks that he is pretty much 100% and should be ready to go by the time training camp starts.

Kawhi and Spurs talk recently and state they are open to coming back to San Antonio, but only for the $219 million and this time the Spurs are somewhat willing to give it to him, but only if they get that guarantee about his health. Kawhi says they will give the Spurs the health report or whatever if/when they get the supermax.

Spurs say no and now are open to trades. They still won't agree unless it's a crazy deal and still hold out hope Kawhi will be open to coming back.

Kawhi now says hey I'm also open to the Clippers and even a couple of teams on the East.

BillMc
06-28-2018, 11:36 AM
The problem now is "fun" according to SAS.:lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TAmPrk1-Vo

Wants LA and "fun". Wahoo! Kawhi beach party 2018

LkrFan
06-28-2018, 11:36 AM
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rjv
06-28-2018, 11:38 AM
i've come to this conclusion. leonard on the spurs next season still does nothing to make the spurs better than GS as the spurs roster is currently constructed. it puts us into the western conference finals perhaps with a shot at something if an injury takes place but there is always the chance that the injury is to leonard himself (he's never played more than 70 games). lebron is going to be 34 for most of the upcoming season and then on to 35. yes, he's in remarkable shape but he's going to be on the wrong side of 30 soon. in some ways, the spurs have a chance to build a team for the first time. it's a gauntlet but one that they at least may have some pieces to build a foundation on. if they can get some first rounders and a solid off and on all star player then they may be better off than moving forward with a questionable leonard in terms of attitude and health. i trust they will not pull the trigger on a crappy trade so i can only hope they get the most for their buck. it's sad that it has come to this but leonard has proven to be a total douche in this entire process and that is something i have been reluctant to concede for quite some time.

RD2191
06-28-2018, 11:39 AM
The Lakers are the ones that wouldn't do it :lol

Spurs fans lmao. Think they have any leverage here lol

It's embarrassing tbh :lol

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06-28-2018, 11:39 AM
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As I hoped. Agendas from ESPN and LaLa land are trying to advance what they want it seems.

RD2191
06-28-2018, 11:40 AM
:lmao

They can get Lonzo and they'll love it.

:lmao

objective
06-28-2018, 11:42 AM
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:lol there he goes!

If Ingram is such a great virile healthy young cheap STUD why would the Lakers trade him for expensive, older, totally not faking an injury Kawhi?

Mr. Body
06-28-2018, 11:42 AM
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Fuck that

Kori Ellis
06-28-2018, 11:43 AM
Stephen A saying Pop and Kawhi met last night, and that another reason Kawhi wants out is that he's "not having fun" in San Antonio. LOL

Anyway, it's obvious that the Spurs are trying to drive up the price with the Lakers by saying that the Celtics are in the mix.

BackHome
06-28-2018, 11:44 AM
Teams have waived physicals before, it's not a big deal. The waiving of the physical will be part if the trade

Besides, the physical would be hard for Kawhi to tank. He's already been cleared by the Spurs.
It's all pain management anyway supposedly solved by Philly doctor's rehab plan

One thing to note is that the Dr who was treating K-Y is also Philly”s team Doctor.

goliath
06-28-2018, 11:45 AM
Fultz is both a better and worse prospect than Ingram, which is exactly what higher ceiling and lower floor means. Of the two, he's more likely to both bust out, or break out and be a star. You have to take that chance when you're getting fifty cents or less on the dollar in a trade, and hope to catch lighting in a bottle. LA has nothing remotely like that Miami 2021 unprotected pick, and that's the deal tipper for me.
This. Ingram and kuzma are both good solid players who cap out at above average starters. Fultz could be a bust but could also break out and be a star. The Miami pick could be crappy but it could also be a top pick in what should be a loaded draft. We aren’t getting a superstar equal value player right now for kwahi. So I try and get assets that can become one like fultz and the Miami pick. The Lakers is the safer offer. But I think puts us in the 6-12 range every year which I don’t want.

Mr. Body
06-28-2018, 11:45 AM
Stephen A saying Pop and Kawhi met last night, and that another reason Kawhi wants out is that he's "not having fun" in San Antonio. LOL

Anyway, it's obvious that the Spurs are trying to drive up the price with the Lakers by saying that the Celtics are in the mix.

Believable. Kawhi seems like a big fun loving guy

-21-
06-28-2018, 11:46 AM
:lol there he goes!

If Ingram is such a great virile healthy young cheap STUD why would the Lakers trade him for expensive, older, totally not faking an injury Kawhi?

Because getting Kawhi would mean getting LeBron and maybe even George.

daslicer
06-28-2018, 11:46 AM
Stephen A saying Pop and Kawhi met last night, and that another reason Kawhi wants out is that he's "not having fun" in San Antonio. LOL

Anyway, it's obvious that the Spurs are trying to drive up the price with the Lakers by saying that the Celtics are in the mix.

Kawhi is a super introvert that has no interest outside of basketball. This guy would have an equal amount of fun about anywhere he played. A night of fun for Kawhi is probably staying at home and watching Netflix.

objective
06-28-2018, 11:46 AM
Stephen A saying Pop and Kawhi met last night, and that another reason Kawhi wants out is that he's "not having fun" in San Antonio. LOL

Anyway, it's obvious that the Spurs are trying to drive up the price with the Lakers by saying that the Celtics are in the mix.

Wait, I thought Kawhi wanted out because the doctors mistreated him?

Or was it that Pop and Parker said meanie things?

Or was it that he couldn't get big endorsements?

Or it was LA was close to home?

Now it's about 'fun'?

:lol

BatManu20
06-28-2018, 11:47 AM
The Lakers are the ones that wouldn't do it :lol

Spurs fans lmao. Think they have any leverage here lol


I’m saying PATFO would likely just trade him to an EC team for less than being lowballed by the Lakers while simultaneously helping them get Lebron. Which I firmly believe. It’s not about leverage, it’s about not helping the Lakers get banner 18.

ducks
06-28-2018, 11:47 AM
Stephen A saying Pop and Kawhi met last night, and that another reason Kawhi wants out is that he's "not having fun" in San Antonio. LOL

Anyway, it's obvious that the Spurs are trying to drive up the price with the Lakers by saying that the Celtics are in the mix.

lol green and him talk all the time
if leonard would talk he could do stuff with his teammates
why the hell would he build a 3 million house if he had no fun in sa

Clipper Nation
06-28-2018, 11:47 AM
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Remember when the media used to hype up Jordan Clarkson because he was a young player on the Lakers? Remember when Javaris Crittenton was hyped up as a future superstar when the MVPau trade happened? Remember when Tony Smith was getting hyped up during the '91 Finals (and then Lakerfan rushed the court for DK and MVPippen in their own building)?

ducks
06-28-2018, 11:48 AM
was it just leonard and pop in the meeting last night or was his uncle there?

picnroll
06-28-2018, 11:49 AM
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If the Lakers’ front office was as competent as Boston’s and drafted Jaylen Brown instead of Ingram and Tatum instead of Ball Kawhi trade would have been easy.

BillMc
06-28-2018, 11:49 AM
Wait, I thought Kawhi wanted out because the doctors mistreated him?

Or was it that Pop and Parker said meanie things?

Or was it that he couldn't get big endorsements?

Or it was LA was close to home?

Now it's about 'fun'?

:lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg-qsnj4_rM

Dverde
06-28-2018, 11:49 AM
Stephen A saying Pop and Kawhi met last night, and that another reason Kawhi wants out is that he's "not having fun" in San Antonio. LOL

Anyway, it's obvious that the Spurs are trying to drive up the price with the Lakers by saying that the Celtics are in the mix.

His group is sooo bad at spin. Manu, Danny Green, Patty by themselves make the Spurs locker room fun. Grasping at straws. Be a man and tell the truth.

Joseph Kony
06-28-2018, 11:49 AM
pls trade this bum already

coachmac87
06-28-2018, 11:51 AM
Stephen A saying Pop and Kawhi met last night, and that another reason Kawhi wants out is that he's "not having fun" in San Antonio. LOL

Anyway, it's obvious that the Spurs are trying to drive up the price with the Lakers by saying that the Celtics are in the mix.


Drive up the price? Who you think they want?

Wagner, Kuzma, Ingram, plus 2 firsts?

rjv
06-28-2018, 11:51 AM
His group is sooo bad at spin. Manu, Danny Green, Patty by themselves make the Spurs locker room fun. Grasping at straws. Be a man and tell the truth.

what is this? YMCA youth basketball? where the coach asks everyone if they're "having fun"? who would have thought that leonard would become the poster child for millennials?

baseline bum
06-28-2018, 11:52 AM
Remember when the media used to hype up Jordan Clarkson because he was a young player on the Lakers? Remember when Javaris Crittenton was hyped up as a future superstar when the MVPau trade happened? Remember when Tony Smith was getting hyped up during the '91 Finals (and then Lakerfan rushed the court for DK and MVPippen in their own building)?

And Nance. And Russell.

From Downtown
06-28-2018, 11:52 AM
Would you take Hayward?

baseline bum
06-28-2018, 11:53 AM
pls trade this bum already

Why? Spurs don't need to be in any rush to help the Lakers get LeBron.

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06-28-2018, 11:53 AM
The Lakers are the ones that wouldn't do it :lol

Spurs fans lmao. Think they have any leverage here lol

You're a dolt. Every national media person worth their salt is characterizing the Lakers as in desperation mode and their offers as homerun, substantial, or Godfatherish.

Just quit the board already.

BatManu20
06-28-2018, 11:53 AM
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Dex
06-28-2018, 11:53 AM
what is this? YMCA youth basketball? where the coach asks everyone if they're "having fun"? who would have thought that leonard would become the poster child for millennials?

"But but but the Warriors have fun when they play!" :cry

Yeah, it's easy to have fun when the odds are ridiculously stacked in your favor.

objective
06-28-2018, 11:53 AM
If the Lakers’ front office was as competent as Boston’s and drafted Jaylen Brown instead of Ingram and Tatum instead of Ball Kawhi trade would have been easy.

Damn, you're right!

That would be a good trade with LA :lol

Russ
06-28-2018, 11:54 AM
:lol there he goes!

If Ingram is such a great virile healthy young cheap STUD why would the Lakers trade him for expensive, older, totally not faking an injury Kawhi?

Because they're incompetent.

They actually had to give up assets to trade the second pick in the entire NBA draft (D. Russell) because they didn't do enough due diligence to see he was a head case.

Now they need to get rid of another second overall pick because they failed to ascertain that his whole family is head cases.

Meanwhile, they treat a hard-working and very talented "in-the-paint guy (Julius Randle) like persona non grata.

It's a confederacy of dunces.

Ron Swanson
06-28-2018, 11:54 AM
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Huge, if true.

BatManu20
06-28-2018, 11:55 AM
Wants to be Kawhi so bad.


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baseline bum
06-28-2018, 11:55 AM
If the Lakers’ front office was as competent as Boston’s and drafted Jaylen Brown instead of Ingram and Tatum instead of Ball Kawhi trade would have been easy.

:lol

BillMc
06-28-2018, 11:56 AM
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What does this mean?

Baam
06-28-2018, 11:56 AM
Woj talking about every team but Philly, wonder if they gave up or something. I still think they got the best stuff.

ducks
06-28-2018, 11:56 AM
what is this? YMCA youth basketball? where the coach asks everyone if they're "having fun"? who would have thought that leonard would become the poster child for millennials?

pop it is just basketball

objective
06-28-2018, 11:57 AM
And Nance. And Russell.

Don't forget Andrew Goudelocke aka GODlock

monkeypunk
06-28-2018, 11:57 AM
What does this mean?

Probably thinks he'll get a call up if Kawhi exits stage left.

Clipper Nation
06-28-2018, 11:58 AM
And Nance. And Russell.

And Kobe. And Shannon Brown. And Lonzo Bust. And Kendall Marshall. And Ramon Sessions.

SAGirl
06-28-2018, 11:58 AM
Jabari has been very quiet for awhile now in regards to this whole Kawhi situation
I am starting to finally get persuaded this doesn't look good and that he will be dealt, if not now, in the coming weeks, maybe months... but probably "sooner".

I think I was one of the few still believing RC's company line.

Here's Jabari:
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BillMc
06-28-2018, 11:59 AM
Probably thinks he'll get a call up if Kawhi exits stage left.

I see. Thanks. :toast

objective
06-28-2018, 12:01 PM
Probably thinks he'll get a call up if Kawhi exits stage left.

Does he understand that a Kawhi trade would mean fewer open roster slots and not more?

Maybe it's just him getting ready for summer league to start

picnroll
06-28-2018, 12:01 PM
Damn, you're right!

That would be a good trade with LA :lol

Only problem is if the Lakers were that competent they may not have wanted/needed Leonard. They could have just signed Lebron and Paul outright. We owe this problem all to the Lakers ongoing incompetence.

offset formation
06-28-2018, 12:03 PM
Wait, I thought Kawhi wanted out because the doctors mistreated him?

Or was it that Pop and Parker said meanie things?

Or was it that he couldn't get big endorsements?

Or it was LA was close to home?

Now it's about 'fun'?

:lol

Nice summary.

You forgot one though...bad roster construction.

coachmac87
06-28-2018, 12:03 PM
What does this mean?

Uhh nothing much. Just shows he’s waiting to see what happens like the rest of us

rjv
06-28-2018, 12:04 PM
pop it is just basketball

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/009/570/e0d.jpg

BillMc
06-28-2018, 12:05 PM
Uhh nothing much. Just shows he’s waiting to see what happens like the rest of us

Thanks man. :bobo

BatManu20
06-28-2018, 12:06 PM
Tell Magic to fuck off if true.


Wojnarowski: The Lakers are willing to include former No. 2 overall pick Brandon Ingram and a future first-round pick in a package for Leonard, but the Spurs are seeking a far more complete haul of Lakers young players and future picks, league sources said.

Birn
06-28-2018, 12:06 PM
I would do Kyrie Irving and Sacto pick plus Brown for Leonard and Mills. The only way I would take a deal from Lakers is if it includes Kuzma, Randle S&T, Wagner, Hart, Ingram and multiple picks. I would then dangle Ingram to a 3rd team for an established young rotation player or another pick.

ducks
06-28-2018, 12:07 PM
sas is saying durant is thinking about leaving gs
not all is well there


brown has a relationship with leonard

Texas_Ranger
06-28-2018, 12:07 PM
Tell Magic to fuck off if true.


Wojnarowski: The Lakers are willing to include former No. 2 overall pick Brandon Ingram and a future first-round pick in a package for Leonard, but the Spurs are seeking a far more complete haul of Lakers young players and future picks, league sources said.

Wtf is this. Why would you even listen to this retarded offers. Id cut all the lines with this faggots.

-21-
06-28-2018, 12:07 PM
This. Ingram and kuzma are both good solid players who cap out at above average starters. Fultz could be a bust but could also break out and be a star. The Miami pick could be crappy but it could also be a top pick in what should be a loaded draft. We aren’t getting a superstar equal value player right now for kwahi. So I try and get assets that can become one like fultz and the Miami pick. The Lakers is the safer offer. But I think puts us in the 6-12 range every year which I don’t want.

Honestly, I think there's a pretty good chance that Fultz will bust and Miami will be a playoff team by 2021 (Spoelstra is good and Miami is always attractive to FAs). Also, Fultz would only add to Spurs' logjam of combo guards. With that said, I'd still prefer a trade with the Sixers for two reasons. One, the 2021 draft class could be really deep with it being the first year of HS prospects being allowed. Two, we don't give the Lakers a superteam.

Do we actually know what the Sixers have offered though? I imagine if reports come out that the Spurs and Sixers get in serious discussions that Ainge would be worried thus make a better offer.

bklynspursfan
06-28-2018, 12:07 PM
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He knows for a fact? lol

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06-28-2018, 12:08 PM
What does this mean?

Prolly got an offer to join the team this year, at least on a two-way??

BillMc
06-28-2018, 12:08 PM
Tell Magic to fuck off if true.



+ 1 trllion

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 12:08 PM
Tell Magic to fuck off if true.


Wojnarowski: The Lakers are willing to include former No. 2 overall pick Brandon Ingram and a future first-round pick in a package for Leonard, but the Spurs are seeking a far more complete haul of Lakers young players and future picks, league sources said.

We're looking to fuck not get fucked.

RD2191
06-28-2018, 12:08 PM
Tell Magic to fuck off if true.


Wojnarowski: The Lakers are willing to include former No. 2 overall pick Brandon Ingram and a future first-round pick in a package for Leonard, but the Spurs are seeking a far more complete haul of Lakers young players and future picks, league sources said.

Yeah, fuck that shit. :lol

Mr. Body
06-28-2018, 12:08 PM
Huge, if true.

Lol., wut

BillMc
06-28-2018, 12:09 PM
Prolly got an offer to join the team this year, at least on a two-way??

Cool. thanks. :flag:

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 12:09 PM
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Dex
06-28-2018, 12:10 PM
Tell Magic to fuck off if true.


Wojnarowski: The Lakers are willing to include former No. 2 overall pick Brandon Ingram and a future first-round pick in a package for Leonard, but the Spurs are seeking a far more complete haul of Lakers young players and future picks, league sources said.

This is the supposed "godfather" trade? GMAFB.

RD2191
06-28-2018, 12:10 PM
We're looking to fuck not get fucked.

Magic is going in dry! :wow

LkrFan
06-28-2018, 12:10 PM
Remember when the media used to hype up Jordan Clarkson because he was a young player on the Lakers? Remember when Javaris Crittenton was hyped up as a future superstar when the MVPau trade happened? Remember when Tony Smith was getting hyped up during the '91 Finals (and then Lakerfan rushed the court for DK and MVPippen in their own building)?

¡No! ¡No hablo inglés! :lol

monkeypunk
06-28-2018, 12:10 PM
Maybe it's just him getting ready for summer league to start

Could be or could be waiting for all the shoes to drop just like we are.

Mr. Body
06-28-2018, 12:11 PM
Honestly, I think there's a pretty good chance that Fultz will bust and Miami will be a playoff team by 2021 (Spoelstra is good and Miami is always attractive to FAs). Also, Fultz would only add to Spurs' logjam of combo guards. With that said, I'd still prefer a trade with the Sixers for two reasons. One, the 2021 draft class could be really deep with it being the first year of HS prospects being allowed. Two, we don't give the Lakers a superteam.

Do we actually know what the Sixers have offered though? I imagine if reports come out that the Spurs and Sixers get in serious discussions that Ainge would be worried thus make a better offer.

Iingram and Kuzma is mediocrity city, guaranteed to keep is on a treadmill for years. I like the Philly offer in general but also because fuck the Lakers

LkrFan
06-28-2018, 12:11 PM
Fuck that

:lmao

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 12:12 PM
Magic is going in dry! :wow

and raw dog. You never want Magic to go in raw dog.

RD2191
06-28-2018, 12:12 PM
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Crofl. What a faggot.

RD2191
06-28-2018, 12:13 PM
and raw dog. You never want Magic to go in raw dog.

:lmao

Mr. Body
06-28-2018, 12:14 PM
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Your own stupid team, dipshit.

-21-
06-28-2018, 12:15 PM
lol magic gtfoh with that shit

BillMc
06-28-2018, 12:15 PM
and raw dog. You never want Magic to go in raw dog.

Truer words have never been spoken.

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 12:16 PM
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rjv
06-28-2018, 12:16 PM
Tell Magic to fuck off if true.


Wojnarowski: The Lakers are willing to include former No. 2 overall pick Brandon Ingram and a future first-round pick in a package for Leonard, but the Spurs are seeking a far more complete haul of Lakers young players and future picks, league sources said.


magic is a damn amateur if this is what he is offering and thinks will work. on the other hand i did also see from sam amick that the lakers were supposedly putting together a "godfather" like deal.

LkrFan
06-28-2018, 12:16 PM
We're looking to fuck not get fucked.

:rollin :lmao :rollin

objective
06-28-2018, 12:17 PM
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He knows for a fact? lol

He was a writer in Portland and might still have connections there

But he's still a buffoon

MoSpur02
06-28-2018, 12:18 PM
Damn Jabari pisses me off. His tweets are all pro Kawhi. As if Kawhi has no fault in all this. LOL. Has to be Duncan2k5 and YGWHI or whatever.

LkrFan
06-28-2018, 12:19 PM
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Kiwi is from Killa Cali. He grew up hating them Celtic bastards :lol

Mr. Body
06-28-2018, 12:20 PM
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I doubt the Celtics get involved. Only chance is if Philadelphia gets publicly interested and even that is a longshot.

objective
06-28-2018, 12:20 PM
magic is a damn amateur if this is what he is offering and thinks will work. on the other hand i did also see from sam amick that the lakers were supposedly putting together a "godfather" like deal.

Magic and his media suckers think that Ingram is the godfather offer.

"What? Deng and a first aren't good enough after all the tampering I've done with Kawhi? Well ... I'm including Ingram now! An offer you can't refuse!"

daslicer
06-28-2018, 12:20 PM
Damn Jabari pisses me off. His tweets are all pro Kawhi. As if Kawhi has no fault in all this. LOL. Has to be Duncan2k5 and YGWHI or whatever.

:lol

Spurs9
06-28-2018, 12:20 PM
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Magic desperate to offer up everything :lol

exstatic
06-28-2018, 12:20 PM
Honestly, I think there's a pretty good chance that Fultz will bust and Miami will be a playoff team by 2021 (Spoelstra is good and Miami is always attractive to FAs). Also, Fultz would only add to Spurs' logjam of combo guards. With that said, I'd still prefer a trade with the Sixers for two reasons. One, the 2021 draft class could be really deep with it being the first year of HS prospects being allowed. Two, we don't give the Lakers a superteam.

Do we actually know what the Sixers have offered though? I imagine if reports come out that the Spurs and Sixers get in serious discussions that Ainge would be worried thus make a better offer.

Have you seen Miami's cap sheet? It makes both the Gasol and Mills deals seem awesome. That Miami pick could be fucking gold.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/MIA.html

Clipper Nation
06-28-2018, 12:21 PM
¡No! ¡No hablo inglés! :lol

¿Recuerdas cuando la prensa publicitaron a Jordan Clarkson porque era un baloncestador joven en los Lakers? ¿Recuerdas cuando Javaris Crittenton fue publicitado como una futura superestrella cuando fue cambiado por MVPau? ¿Recuerdas cuando Tony Smith estaba publicitado durante las Finales de 1991 (y luego Lakerfan corrió a la pista por DK y MVPippen en su propio edificio)?

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 12:21 PM
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Magic desperate to offer up everything :lol

Then Woj said it's for Ingram + 1st round pick

objective
06-28-2018, 12:22 PM
Have you seen Miami's cap sheet? It makes both the Gasol and Mills deals seem awesome. That Miami pick could be fucking gold.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/MIA.html

It could be middle of the pack also. That's a perfectly sound 6-10 team in the East with that average talent.

lmbebo
06-28-2018, 12:23 PM
Then Woj said it's for Ingram + 1st round pick


godfather ...:rolleyes

toki9
06-28-2018, 12:23 PM
Then Woj said it's for Ingram + 1st round pick

So, it's Godfather 3, then...

baseline bum
06-28-2018, 12:24 PM
I would do Kyrie Irving and Sacto pick plus Brown for Leonard and Mills. The only way I would take a deal from Lakers is if it includes Kuzma, Randle S&T, Wagner, Hart, Ingram and multiple picks. I would then dangle Ingram to a 3rd team for an established young rotation player or another pick.

You're ok with paying Randle max money?

Spurs9
06-28-2018, 12:24 PM
Wasn’t it reported yesterday a package way more than that including Kuzma? Reports all over the place.

exstatic
06-28-2018, 12:25 PM
Then Woj said it's for Ingram + 1st round pick

Sorry, Magic, I CAN refuse that offer.

mudyez
06-28-2018, 12:25 PM
So, it's Godfather 3, then...

:toast:lol

dbestpro
06-28-2018, 12:25 PM
Ingram by his highlights is a catch and shoot player. He can take it to the hoop. Very average passing game. Little to no defense game. looks stiff. The player that standouts during Ingram"s highlights as having an all around game is Ball.

LkrFan
06-28-2018, 12:26 PM
¿Recuerdas cuando la prensa publicitaron a Jordan Clarkson porque era un baloncestador joven en los Lakers? ¿Recuerdas cuando Javaris Crittenton fue publicitado como una futura superestrella cuando fue cambiado por MVPau? ¿Recuerdas cuando Tony Smith estaba publicitado durante las Finales de 1991 (y luego Lakerfan corrió a la pista por DK y MVPippen en su propio edificio)?

No, lo siento mi amigo. ¡no recuerdo nada de ese shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit tbh! :lmao

rjv
06-28-2018, 12:26 PM
So, it's Godfather 3, then...

:lol

MoSpur02
06-28-2018, 12:26 PM
So, it's Godfather 3, then....

:lmao

-21-
06-28-2018, 12:26 PM
Have you seen Miami's cap sheet? It makes both the Gasol and Mills deals seem awesome. That Miami pick could be fucking gold.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/MIA.html

wtf were they thinking with those contracts? :lol

this makes me want a sixers trade more. seriously though, i wanna know what they've offered so far?

baseline bum
06-28-2018, 12:26 PM
So, it's Godfather 3, then...

:lol

rjv
06-28-2018, 12:27 PM
Sorry, Magic, I CAN refuse that offer.


i just hope buford doesn't turn into moe green.

LkrFan
06-28-2018, 12:27 PM
Sorry, Magic, I CAN refuse that offer.

RC, is this your burner account? :lol

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 12:27 PM
So, it's Godfather 3, then...

:lol

bklynspursfan
06-28-2018, 12:28 PM
He was a writer in Portland and might still have connections there

But he's still a buffoon

Ah good to know. Why the hell did we end up with him haha

bklynspursfan
06-28-2018, 12:28 PM
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Now the Spurs are shook :lol

K...
06-28-2018, 12:28 PM
There godfather offer is that magic hires the mafia to off Daddy ball so the Spurs can take lonzo.

picnroll
06-28-2018, 12:29 PM
Basketball-wise a year of Leonard is worth the entire career of Ingram.

exstatic
06-28-2018, 12:30 PM
It could be middle of the pack also. That's a perfectly sound 6-10 team in the East with that average talent.

Oh, it could be. I'd take that over what will likely be Laker picks in the 20s, though, every day, and twice on Sunday.

Oh, and go ahead and age all of that talent 3-4 years without adding anything new, because they can't fucking afford it. This was our worst season in ages, and their pick (traded to PHO) was two spots better than where we grabbed Walker. That's two spots outside of the lottery. If you get IN the lottery, you have a chance to win.

Riley fucked up. He's constructing a roster that resembles that horror in Brooklyn a few years ago that they are still cleaning up. Overpaying non-stars never works out, especially not a half dozen at a time.

BillMc
06-28-2018, 12:30 PM
So, it's Godfather 3, then...
:lol

Ron Swanson
06-28-2018, 12:30 PM
Tell Magic to fuck off if true.


Wojnarowski: The Lakers are willing to include former No. 2 overall pick Brandon Ingram and a future first-round pick in a package for Leonard, but the Spurs are seeking a far more complete haul of Lakers young players and future picks, league sources said.

If this is their godfather offer... :lol

Mr. Body
06-28-2018, 12:31 PM
I wonder if the Lakers remember the last time they tried to put together a super team.

picnroll
06-28-2018, 12:31 PM
I’m willing to trade Leonard to LA for Twitter rescinding Jabari Parker’s twitter account.

Mugen
06-28-2018, 12:32 PM
Jabari needs to be muzzled like a dog tbh.

InRareForm
06-28-2018, 12:32 PM
Ingram by his highlights is a catch and shoot player. He can take it to the hoop. Very average passing game. Little to no defense game. looks stiff. The player that standouts during Ingram"s highlights as having an all around game is Ball.

I think he will get more fluid with movement and also stronger. When he drives it looks like he travels but he is just able to get to the hoop like that

toki9
06-28-2018, 12:33 PM
I’m willing to trade Leonard to LA for Twitter rescinding Jabari Parker’s twitter account.

I think you might have the wrong Jabari...

BillMc
06-28-2018, 12:33 PM
Jabari needs to be euthanized like a dog tbh.
Fify

mclinejr
06-28-2018, 12:36 PM
Fuck LA. Leonard, I’ll see you at training camp.

NASpurs
06-28-2018, 12:36 PM
I'll gladly consider Lonzo if we can get LaVar banned from Texas and put him on a no-fly list.

SpursDynasty85
06-28-2018, 12:37 PM
Of course Lakers are going to play hardball. Let's not act like the Spurs have all the leverage too. Hopefully in the end it makes sense to send at least Kuzam, Ingram, and draft pick to the Spurs or else Spurs will definitely ship him east. Even then Lakers might like their chance of landing him next year. If we had Kawhi on a 3 year contract this would be another story.

SAGirl
06-28-2018, 12:37 PM
He was a writer in Portland and might still have connections there

But he's still a buffoon
It was leaked this past season that Lamarcus even called Lillard last summer and asked him to see if Portland could trade for him when he wanted out of San Antonio.


to the point where Aldridge called former teammate Damian Lillard and asked him to approach general manager Neil Olshey about bringing Aldridge back to Portland, a person familiar with the conversation told B/R.

https://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2018/05/report-lamarcus-aldridge-trade-spurs-blazers-damian-lillard.html

So, I think he could know for a fact that Porland would love to have him back...

Russ
06-28-2018, 12:37 PM
Fuck LA. Leonard, I’ll see you at training camp.

That outcome would actually be the most fun . . . :)

RD2191
06-28-2018, 12:39 PM
It was leaked this past season that Lamarcus even called Lillard last summer and asked him to see if Portland could trade for him when he wanted out of San Antonio.



https://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2018/05/report-lamarcus-aldridge-trade-spurs-blazers-damian-lillard.html

So, I think he could know for a fact that Porland would love to have him back...

LMA is such a faggot. Hopefully he gets the fuck out too.

objective
06-28-2018, 12:39 PM
Holy shit does the Express News have the worst damn writers

Jabari: You can still watch Kawhi when he comes to town 3/4 times a year

McDonald: Spurs have won enough, it's okay to lose and let other teams win

TimDunkem
06-28-2018, 12:40 PM
LMA is such a faggot. Hopefully he gets the fuck out too.

Yes please

picnroll
06-28-2018, 12:40 PM
I'll gladly consider Lonzo if we can get LaVar banned from Texas and put him on a no-fly list.

Lonzo disowns his father, gets a 100 mile restraint order and agrees to let Chip rework his shot and I’d consider it. Sans dad and a reworked shot Lonzo is the best bet of the Lakers young players.

ducks
06-28-2018, 12:40 PM
who will break the trade? or extension?

SpursDynasty85
06-28-2018, 12:40 PM
That outcome would actually be the most fun . . . :)

Idk how that lands us more assets and might cause more friction in the locker room. The reason the Spurs are the Spurs is they cut away the cancer out of the locker room immediately. Keeping Leonard just to say "haha" that would make the Spurs look petty and detract more free agents from coming honestly. Pf course it would feel good in a sadistic way.