Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[RD2191]

I'll gladly consider Lonzo if we can get LaVar banned from Texas and put him on a no-fly list.

Pop vs LaVar would be hilarious :lol

[mclinejr]

That outcome would actually be the most fun . . . :)

Exactly. If we are going down, might as well Bring him down with us as best we can.

[baseline bum]

There godfather offer is that magic hires the mafia to off Daddy ball so the Spurs can take lonzo.

I'd be down.

[toki9]

It was leaked this past season that Lamarcus even called Lillard last summer and asked him to see if Portland could trade for him when he wanted out of San Antonio.



https://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2018/05/report-lamarcus-aldridge-trade-spurs-blazers-damian-lillard.html

So, I think he could know for a fact that Porland would love to have him back...

And Jabari was the second person (after Jackie MacMullan of ESPN) to report that Lamarcus wanted to be traded, back in October of 2016 ( https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/With-trade-rumors-surfacing-Aldridge-s-future-9981115.php ). So he probably has good ties to Blazers personnel.

[ducks]

https://nesn.com/2018/06/nba-rumors-spurs-fully-engaged-in-kawhi-leonard-trade-talks-with-lakers-celtics-others/

[rascal]

They should have traded Leonard on draft night to the 76ers in a package that included Bridges.
Bridges will be a star in the league. Now Bridges is traded to Phoenix.

[baseline bum]

Riley fucked up. He's constructing a roster that resembles that horror in Brooklyn a few years ago that they are still cleaning up. Overpaying non-stars never works out, especially not a half dozen at a time.

And that's the Spurs future with an LA trade. Max out Randle now, then max out Ingram in two years, then max out Kuzma in three years. :vomit:

[SpursDynasty85]

Then Woj said it's for Ingram + 1st round pick

I think that has been offered but wasn't the only trade package offered either. You dont show all your cards on the table but obviously those two things (Ingram and first round pick) are the most valuable and likely the foundation of a package. Lakers probably offer Josh Hart... Spurs wait til you add Kuzma. It's a game of poker/chess.

[RD2191]

And that's the Spurs future with an LA trade. Max out Randle now, then max out Ingram in two years, then max out Kuzma in three years. :vomit:

:lobt2:

[Mugen]

:lol If RC/Pop end up getting cucked by Uncle Dennis and Magic, i can happily turn in my Spurs fandom card.

[TimDunkem]

:lol If RC/Pop end up getting cucked by Uncle Dennis and Magic, i can happily turn in my Spurs fandom card.

You'll probably get a little motivation when RC gives out another stupid 12:01 contract on July 1st

[baseline bum]

:lol If RC/Pop end up getting cucked by Uncle Dennis and Magic, i can happily turn in my Spurs fandom card.

It's going to be like Hemisfair after they traded Gervin.

[ducks]

They should have traded Leonard on draft night to the 76ers in a package that included Bridges.
Bridges will be a star in the league. Now Bridges is traded to Phoenix.

bet $50 he will not be an allstar in 2 years

[NASpurs]

That Celtics trade scenario in this NY Post article is the ultimate blue balls.

https://nypost.com/2018/06/28/what-could-lakers-and-celtics-give-up-for-kawhi-leonard/

[Extra Stout]

And that's the Spurs future with an LA trade. Max out Randle now, then max out Ingram in two years, then max out Kuzma in three years. :vomit:
If the Spurs in a trade can’t get a prospect with A+ potential, or a draft pick high enough to pick such a prospect, then the best long-term move would be to let Kawhi walk in a year, bottom out, and rebuild by drafting the players they want.

[rascal]

bet $50 he will not be an allstar in 2 years

It took Leonard 5 years, so in 5 years Bridges is an all star.

[NASpurs]

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[spurraider21]

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Now the Spurs are shook :lol
jabari windhorst wants to move to LA too

[Spurs9]

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Then they don't need to be inquiring about a trade.

[bklynspursfan]

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[RD2191]

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:lol and spur fan think the Lakers offer is shit

[spurraider21]

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we already knew tatum is off the table, which makes a boston deal more difficult to envision.

the only boston deal i would really like otherwise is where he send kawhi and gasol and then send back brown and hayward. what else are they gonna give? and i cant really blame them if they get the sense kawhi is just going to leave anyway. but then we're just at an impasse and its not gonna go anywhere

[SpursDynasty85]

Then they don't need to be inquiring about a trade.

What if they have discussed Kyrie, Hayward, Rozier, and draft picks? Celtics love the cap space and talent the young guys provide. They are the Spurs of the east.

[Mugen]

Jabari is giving Earvin Jr. a legit run for biggest faggot in the world. Please get this clown as far away from the Spurs as possible.

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I would say how would you know you are so far up leonard ass you can not see or hear anything else

[ducks]

Paul Garcia pAulGarciaNBA
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Interesting, latest Woj report says the Lakers are willing to include Ingram and a future first rounder.

Doesn’t mention other Lakers players or if LA would take back a hefty SA contract…

[clambake]

I would say how would you know you are so far up leonard ass you can not see or hear anything else

the irony

[Leetonidas]

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Considering he has not opted out yet and is not a free agent and this would clearly be tampering, I would say Jabari is a faggot tbh

[spurs10]

Probably going to read 'Magic screws his "Godfather offer" and accidentally puts Kawhi's head in R.C.'s bed.'

[spursistan]

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This nigga might be a retard :lol

I don't give a shit about your political correctness anymore; this dude is just not right. Good luck to anyone who is going to take on his weird complicated ass..

[Marcus Bryant]

If the Spurs in a trade can’t get a prospect with A+ potential, or a draft pick high enough to pick such a prospect, then the best long-term move would be to let Kawhi walk in a year, bottom out, and rebuild by drafting the players they want.

Agreed.

[spurs10]

Maybe Pop told Kawhi 'It's a lot more fun when you actually "play" in a game.'

[baseline bum]

If the Spurs in a trade can’t get a prospect with A+ potential, or a draft pick high enough to pick such a prospect, then the best long-term move would be to let Kawhi walk in a year, bottom out, and rebuild by drafting the players they want.

Agreed. If you're the Thunder would you have rather gotten Harrison Barnes at the deadline so you could max him out instead of letting Durant walk for nothing? Yeah, me neither.

[rjv]

Maybe Pop told Kawhi 'It's a lot more fun when you actually "play" in a game.'

:lol

[objective]

Oh, it could be. I'd take that over what will likely be Laker picks in the 20s, though, every day, and twice on Sunday.

Oh, and go ahead and age all of that talent 3-4 years without adding anything new, because they can't fucking afford it. This was our worst season in ages, and their pick (traded to PHO) was two spots better than where we grabbed Walker. That's two spots outside of the lottery. If you get IN the lottery, you have a chance to win.

Riley fucked up. He's constructing a roster that resembles that horror in Brooklyn a few years ago that they are still cleaning up. Overpaying non-stars never works out, especially not a half dozen at a time.

I don't want crap deals from anyone. But it's important to note that the Heat will have about $60 million in caproom in summer 2020. Bam, 30 year old Olynyk, 30 year old Waiters, 27 year old Richardson .... That's a team that can get the 8 seed

I know the lotto odds are more even by then but it's no lock to even be a lottery pick

[RD2191]

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This nigga might be a retard :lol

I don't give a shit about your political correctness anymore; this dude is just not right. Good luck to anyone who is going to take on his weird complicated ass..

Yeah, getting an MVP must be a load of stress. Gtfo :lol

[Dverde]

Surprised Portland isn’t trying to get involved. They could center a trade offer around CJ McCollum. Not sure I’d do that trade, but at least you get a near all-star back.

[dbestpro]

Agreed. If you're the Thunder would you have rather gotten Harrison Barnes at the deadline so you could max him out instead of letting Durant walk for nothing? Yeah, me neither.

One of the more salient points.

[Leetonidas]

Agreed. If you're the Thunder would you have rather gotten Harrison Barnes at the deadline so you could max him out instead of letting Durant walk for nothing? Yeah, me neither.

Id rather have something than nothing. Worst come to worst spurs can always flip those guys for picks. Won't be terrible having guys under rookie deals for a couple years.

[spurs10]

:lol :toast Seriously he hasn't played in a game for a really long time!

[offset formation]

Jabari needs to be muzzled like a dog tbh.

Just question his motives on Twitter and he'll block you.

Source: he did it to me

[objective]

Agreed. If you're the Thunder would you have rather gotten Harrison Barnes at the deadline so you could max him out instead of letting Durant walk for nothing? Yeah, me neither.

if the media had started calling Barnes a young stud and that Barnes + a first round pick were a godfather offer ... looks like a whole lot of Thunder fans would have had their mouths watering like some of these Spurs fans

[bklynspursfan]

Considering he has not opted out yet and is not a free agent and this would clearly be tampering, I would say Jabari is a faggot tbh

Seriously :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

if the media had started calling Barnes a young stud and that Barnes + a first round pick were a godfather offer ... looks like a whole lot of Thunder fans would have had their mouths watering like some of these Spurs fans

Ingram's metrics are very discouraging compared to most wing stars of the 2000s to present in their 2nd seasons..you'd have to really believe in a Giannis trajectory to think he can be a superstar, ugh(and Giannis is a rare specimen)

[dbestpro]

Watched highlights of Kuzma and he looks much more fluid and engaged than Ingram.

[Spurs da champs]

Id rather have something than nothing. Worst come to worst spurs can always flip those guys for picks. Won't be terrible having guys under rookie deals for a couple years.

This all day.

[goliath]

If the offers are Boston without brown or Tatum or Ingram and a crappy pick, I would rather just keep kwahi and hope that over the next season things work out.

[jjktkk]

Kiwi is from Killa Cali. He grew up hating them Celtic bastards :lol

So did Paul Pierce. :wow

[ducks]

Surprised Portland isn’t trying to get involved. They could center a trade offer around CJ McCollum. Not sure I’d do that trade, but at least you get a near all-star back.

portland would say leonard to injury prone with their luck

[LkrFan]

So did Paul Pierce. :wow

Difference: PP was drafted. Kiwi would be traded for - with the Celtics fully knowing his stated goal is to be a Laker - yet they trade for him anyway? Not buying it.

We may not get him, but I highly doubt Boston gets him either.

[dbreiden83080]

I think the chances are high If/When Leonard goes to LA or wherever he does not old up physically at all. This BS with the Quad is not the first time he was accused of being fragile, But this season just took it to obvious extreme levels. Spurs needs to get some good young talent like Ingram and maybe he turns into a special player. I think chances are good we have seen the best of Leonard. Teams should be questioning not just his health but his desire. A player that wants to be all time great, does not pull what he pulled this season. He was cleared to play and sat all season. Never happens..

[ducks]

Report: LeBron James texted Kevin Durant about teaming up on Lakers
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-lebron-james-texted-kevin-172201101.html

[dbestpro]

If the offers are Boston without brown or Tatum or Ingram and a crappy pick, I would rather just keep kwahi and hope that over the next season things work out.

This. You can always go after Tobias Harris or Klay Thompson as free agents next year.

[dbreiden83080]

Report: LeBron James texted Kevin Durant about teaming up on Lakers
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-lebron-james-texted-kevin-172201101.html

After all the BS he went through leaving OKC and he is now winning chips, KD leaving GS to go play with Lebron would be like WTF? Don't see it..

[Eaglenole2002]

Per Shelburne

Regarding Lakers-Spurs discussions. Things have been in the conceptual lane thus far. Ingram’s name has been in discussions but more as a player Spurs covet.

[dbreiden83080]

Basically Lebron will opt out Friday, but he can still re-sign in Cleveland or go wherever. So there is no rush on a deal for KL to go to LA. But if the offers suck, Fuck it.. Keep him for now..

[Mr. Body]

Watched highlights of Kuzma and he looks much more fluid and engaged than Ingram.

That's because Ingram looks blasted with the dankest weed at all moments

[Clipper Nation]

After all the BS he went through leaving OKC and he is now winning chips, KD leaving GS to go play with Lebron would be like WTF? Don't see it..
The source is Stephen A., so you can safely ignore it.

[Mr. Body]

Per Shelburne

Regarding Lakers-Spurs discussions. Things have been in the conceptual lane thus far. Ingram’s name has been in discussions but more as a player Spurs covet.

Haha, 'covet'.

[objective]

Per Shelburne

Regarding Lakers-Spurs discussions. Things have been in the conceptual lane thus far. Ingram’s name has been in discussions but more as a player Spurs covet.

:lol what shit

Spurs begging Lakers for Ingram. "Please give us Ingram, we covet him"

[dbestpro]

That's because Ingram looks blasted with the dankest weed at all moments

That actually may be the main reason NBA players would prefer LA.

[mclinejr]

portland would say leonard to injury prone with their luck

Every team should be taking this into consideration, tbh.

[Spurs da champs]

Ramona is garbage & so is Woj. they're just repeating the same shit every day or what?

[objective]

I think it's also worth noting that IF the Spurs were really sooooo concerned about Kawhi's supposedly degenerative quads that will only get worse and worse ....

they would have traded his ass before the draft.

[mclinejr]

:lol what shit

Spurs begging Lakers for Ingram. "Please give us Ingram, we covet him"

They value his basketball IQ.:pop:

[dbreiden83080]

The source is Stephen A., so you can safely ignore it.

Yes I saw it on First Take as he sits there Arrogantly rambling on about his mighty sources.. Hate that clown..

[cjw]

ESPN and the media in general only care about the NBA forming these so called "super teams". They couldn't care less about small market teams like San Antonio, regardless of the Spurs storied history.

Considering the government is going to force them to divest all the regional Fox Sports channels as part of Disney’s acquisition, they only care about filling the national TV slate.

[gambit1990]

After all the BS he went through leaving OKC and he is now winning chips, KD leaving GS to go play with Lebron would be like WTF? Don't see it..
winning one with the lakers would help his legacy out more than winning one or even two more with GS.

[TimDunkem]

Magic paying Big Mona directly to spread misinformation. Smh

[dbreiden83080]

winning one with the lakers would help his legacy out more than winning one or even two more with GS.

He wins anything with Lebron and it is about Lebron.. KD is not considered..

[ducks]

durant opt out

[SpursDynasty85]

He wins anything with Lebron and it is about Lebron.. KD is not considered..

KD being passed around like some mercenary player would not look good especially at their in state rivals "".

[BatManu20]

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[NASpurs]

Kawhi reaching out :lol sure

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[MannyIsGod]

Agreed. If you're the Thunder would you have rather gotten Harrison Barnes at the deadline so you could max him out instead of letting Durant walk for nothing? Yeah, me neither.

Really? The Thunder weren't planning on losing Durant. The situation with Durant and Leonard are nothing alike. Second, trading for someone doesn't mean you have to max them. You can wait and see. So far ever prospect you mention you also attach the max to as if it's somehow a given that a player that isn't worth the max is still going to get it.

Would the Thunder rather have gotten some draft picks or prospects instead of losing Durant for nothing? The answer should be obvious to you and its not what you guys are saying. Letting him walk and getting nothing in return just means you're delaying a rebuild for no good reason. It's not a sound basketball move for the Spurs. It's just ya'll wanting to be petty, which I get, but it isn't sound business.

[Mugen]

:lol Yeah, I can totally see that mute fuck reaching out to LeBron.

[spursistan]

Kawhi reaching out :lol sure

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[BatManu20]

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[bklynspursfan]

Just realized Kawhi's bday is tomorrow... Wonder if the Spurs accounts will publish anything :lol

[BatManu20]

All these “reports” are such fucking garbage. Literally just a nonstop flow of contradicting reports and bullshit speculation from a bunch of wannabe insiders looking for attention.

[baseline bum]

Really? The Thunder weren't planning on losing Durant. The situation with Durant and Leonard are nothing alike. Second, trading for someone doesn't mean you have to max them. You can wait and see. So far ever prospect you mention you also attach the max to as if it's somehow a given that a player that isn't worth the max is still going to get it.

Would the Thunder rather have gotten some draft picks or prospects instead of losing Durant for nothing? The answer should be obvious to you and its not what you guys are saying. Letting him walk and getting nothing in return just means you're delaying a rebuild for no good reason. It's not a sound basketball move for the Spurs. It's just ya'll wanting to be petty, which I get, but it isn't sound business.

I attach max contracts because that tends to be market value for B-level players coming off their rookie contracts.

[ducks]

james should tell leonard he would go to sa if he stays in sa

[BatManu20]

Just realized Kawhi's bday is tomorrow... Wonder if the Spurs accounts will publish anything :lol


“Happy birthday Kawhi! Eat shit and die! (but not til after trade you)”

[Killakobe81]

All these “reports” are such fucking garbage. Literally just a nonstop flow of contradicting reports and bullshit speculation from a bunch of wannabe insiders.

Agreed. Especially with obvious stuff like KL's defense can help Lebron ... yeah, no shit!! :lol

[Spurs9]

All these “reports” are such fucking garbage. Literally just a nonstop flow of contradicting reports and bullshit speculation from a bunch of wannabe insiders looking for attention.

Yeah, twitter is a cesspool

[MannyIsGod]

I attach max contracts because that tends to be market value for B-level players coming off their rookie contracts.

If the Spurs are willing to let a Kawhi walk then why wouldn't they be willing to let a bad prospect walk? I'll concede that the Pau contract makes people do a double take, but historically the Spurs have not overpaid their players.

[gambit1990]

james should tell leonard he would go to sa if he stays in sa
"let's both live in a city we don't really wanna be in instead of us both being in a city we really wanna be in."

[SAGirl]

I think the chances are high If/When Leonard goes to LA or wherever he does not old up physically at all. This BS with the Quad is not the first time he was accused of being fragile, But this season just took it to obvious extreme levels. Spurs needs to get some good young talent like Ingram and maybe he turns into a special player. I think chances are good we have seen the best of Leonard. Teams should be questioning not just his health but his desire. A player that wants to be all time great, does not pull what he pulled this season. He was cleared to play and sat all season. Never happens..
I was already very concerned about this injury when the Spurs were rumored to offer the Supermax to him. I figure it can't be helped considering the circumstances, but it has been a major red flag, the injury, the super long rehab, etc. I was already concerned he would have durability issues the rest of the way.

[coachmac87]

james should tell leonard he would go to sa if he stays in sa

That’s the easiest way for them to team up.

Kawhi can bring his new friend to the 219M negotiation table if they’re BFFs now

[look_at_g_shred]

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[Namundy]

Watched highlights of Kuzma and he looks much more fluid and engaged than Ingram.

I agree, but the defensive potential for Ingram is higher. Kuzma is very fluid though.

[Spurs9]

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[marinoman]

This was reported last night
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[cjw]

Holy shit does the Express News have the worst damn writers

Jabari: You can still watch Kawhi when he comes to town 3/4 times a year

McDonald: Spurs have won enough, it's okay to lose and let other teams win


And to think these are the ones that survived their downsizing

[Mugen]

Kuzma is such a faggot, dude belongs with the Lakers.

[baseline bum]

If the Spurs are willing to let a Kawhi walk then why wouldn't they be willing to let a bad prospect walk? I'll concede that the Pau contract makes people do a double take, but historically the Spurs have not overpaid their players.

You forget about the contract they signed Jefferson to?

[cd021]

Ingram's metrics are very discouraging compared to most wing stars of the 2000s to present in their 2nd seasons..you'd have to really believe in a Giannis trajectory to think he can be a superstar, ugh(and Giannis is a rare specimen)
I think odds are that he'll never live up to the hype and just be a pretty good player but not all-star caliber.

[ducks]

That’s the easiest way for them to team up.

Kawhi can bring his new friend to the 219M negotiation table if they’re BFFs now
with lma here they would be a big three superteam

[bklynspursfan]

“Happy birthday Kawhi! Eat shit and die! (but not til after trade you)”

I like it :tu

[Spurs9]

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[mclinejr]

with lma here they would be a big three superteam

Is this financially possible?

[BatManu20]

Windhorst on Outside the Lines right now saying that the feeling he’s getting from sources is that the Spurs are still in no rush to deal Kawhi, despite the Lakers wanting to get something done soon. Says the pressure is on the Lakers since they want Lebron ASAP.

He said the Spurs would still much rather deal Kawhi to BOS but that Ainge is being a stiff-ass right now. Said teams like BOS and PHI think they’ll have more leverage if they wait a week, seeing what happens the first few days of FA. Said it’s going to take a “remarkable offer” for the Spurs to trade Kawhi to the Lakers and also said that the Spurs still believe they might be able to salvage the relationship with Kawhi, however bleak that may seem right now.


Nothing we don’t know. Just more of the same repetitive, speculative bullshit. But this directly contradicts Stein’s report that the Spurs are “ready to move on” from Kawhi ASAP. And ‘round and ‘round we go. July 1st can’t get here soon enough.

[Spurs9]

delete

[objective]

If the Spurs are willing to let a Kawhi walk then why wouldn't they be willing to let a bad prospect walk? I'll concede that the Pau contract makes people do a double take, but historically the Spurs have not overpaid their players.

If they make the trade, that shows they have to get something. And for the traded players, that means they have to be kept no matter the cost, otherwise it would be like getting nothing for Kawhi

That's how average players like Gallinari, Chandler, Vucevic, etc all get big contracts from their new teams.

The loser in the trade has to save face and overpay to keep the talent acquired.

[baseline bum]

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You need to use tweet tags, not twitter tags

[marinoman]

Is this financially possible?
With a sign and trade yes, but pop hurt kawhis feelings

[DAF86]

Fuck it, Lebron. Just sign with us for a year. 1 guaranteed and 1 player option. Do it.

[mclinejr]

Windhorst on Outside the Lines right now saying that the feeling he’s getting from sources is that the Spurs are still in no rush to deal Kawhi, despite the Lakers wanting to get something done soon. Says the pressure is on the Lakers since they want Lebron ASAP.

He said the Spurs would still much rather deal Kawhi to BOS but that Ainge is being a stiff-ass right now. Said teams like BOS and PHI think they’ll have more leverage if they wait a week, seeing what happens the first few days of FA. Said it’s going to take a “remarkable offer” for the Spurs to trade Kawhi to the Lakers and also said that the Spurs still believe they might be able to salvage the relationship with Kawhi, however bleak that may seem right now.


Nothing we don’t know. Just more of the same repetitive, speculative bullshit. But this directly contradicts Stein’s report that the Spurs are “ready to move on” from Kawhi ASAP. And ‘round and ‘round we go. July 1st can’t get here soon enough.

This is why I think things are quiet on the Spurs Front right now. I really think they are trying to repair the relationship with Kawhi.

[Spurs9]

You need to use tweet tags, not twitter tags
Yeah, forgot about that for a sec trying to keep up with all of these reports :lol

[coachmac87]

Ingram, Kuzma, Wagner, 1st+ cap space

Do it

[BatManu20]

Windhorst on Outside the Lines right now saying that the feeling he’s getting from sources is that the Spurs are still in no rush to deal Kawhi, despite the Lakers wanting to get something done soon. Says the pressure is on the Lakers since they want Lebron ASAP.

He said the Spurs would still much rather deal Kawhi to BOS but that Ainge is being a stiff-ass right now. Said teams like BOS and PHI think they’ll have more leverage if they wait a week, seeing what happens the first few days of FA as it could give them much more leverage. Said it’s going to take a “remarkable offer” for the Spurs to trade Kawhi to the Lakers and also said that the Spurs still believe they might be able to salvage the relationship with Kawhi, however bleak that may seem right now.


Nothing we don’t know. Just more of the same repetitive, speculative bullshit. But this directly contradicts Stein’s report that the Spurs are “ready to move on” from Kawhi ASAP. And ‘round and ‘round we go. July 1st can’t get here soon enough.

[ducks]

we say it the first time:bobo

[BatManu20]

Zach Lowe on The Jump: The package that the Lakers and Spurs would consider "the line" is Ingram, Kuzma, and two first round picks. More and it's too much for the Lakers, but less and it's not enough for San Antonio.

[exstatic]

If the Spurs are willing to let a Kawhi walk then why wouldn't they be willing to let a bad prospect walk? I'll concede that the Pau contract makes people do a double take, but historically the Spurs have not overpaid their players.

Painfully obvious: moving on from Kawhi costs HIM more money, AND busts up the Laker super team. You waste a couple of years of rebuilding/retooling evaluating LAs overrated youngsters, instead of just getting on with it. None of them will ever be worth building a team around, so why even trade for them?

[cd021]

If the offers are Boston without brown or Tatum or Ingram and a crappy pick, I would rather just keep kwahi and hope that over the next season things work out.


In the article Zach Lowe dropped about a week ago, he mentioned that Boston would prefer a S&T involving Kawhi for Smart and the Kings and Grizzlies picks.

If that is the case, then it would depend on whether the Spurs like Smart, how much and long does his contract run and whether it is actually both picks (which would probably end up being in the top 5 and the 10-14 range)

There is obviously a huge fit issue to consider, he'd be a bench player and there isn't a rotation where he wouldn't be sharing the floor with another player that can't shoot (Murray, Parker, Anderson,) not to mention Spurs already have Parker, Murray, Green, White, Walker and Mills at guard with Manu potentially coming back.

[Spurs9]

Lets try this again.

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[look_at_g_shred]

So is Pop still gonna meet with Lebron? Convince him to do a 1 plus 1 deal.. I mean Kawhi is going to be here until we don't want him to be.

[BatManu20]

Fischer: San Antonio has informed teams its preferred target in any Leonard trade is the Celtics' Jayson Tatum, sources say. It’s widely believed in league circles that Boston is more likely to propose a deal centered around Kyrie Irving and future picks.

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That shit is worse than the shit Magic is pedaling.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

This is why I think things are quiet on the Spurs Front right now. I really think they are trying to repair the relationship with Kawhi.

Eh. The Spurs are in the position of strength. Every day that goes by without a deal, the pressure on the Lakers increases.

The longer this drags on, the better for SA, though it weakens their position with Boston and Philly.

[SAGirl]

Windhorst on Outside the Lines right now saying that the feeling he’s getting from sources is that the Spurs are still in no rush to deal Kawhi, despite the Lakers wanting to get something done soon. Says the pressure is on the Lakers since they want Lebron ASAP.

He said the Spurs would still much rather deal Kawhi to BOS but that Ainge is being a stiff-ass right now. Said teams like BOS and PHI think they’ll have more leverage if they wait a week, seeing what happens the first few days of FA. Said it’s going to take a “remarkable offer” for the Spurs to trade Kawhi to the Lakers and also said that the Spurs still believe they might be able to salvage the relationship with Kawhi, however bleak that may seem right now.


Nothing we don’t know. Just more of the same repetitive, speculative bullshit. But this directly contradicts Stein’s report that the Spurs are “ready to move on” from Kawhi ASAP. And ‘round and ‘round we go. July 1st can’t get here soon enough.

The hope to still salvage the relationship... I was buying it... maybe there is just a lot of lies spread from Lakers about Kiwi not wanting to step on the locker room and him being determined to leave, to push the Spurs, the fans, etc. It may just be a lie.

I used to believe he wouldn't be traded... but I am not sure anymore and I think there is a real possibility that Kiwi really is that stubborn that he can't be convinced.

[look_at_g_shred]

In the article Zach Lowe dropped about a week ago, he mentioned that Boston would prefer a S&T involving Kawhi for Smart and the Kings and Grizzlies picks.

If that is the case, then it would depend on whether the Spurs like Smart, how much and long does his contract run and whether it is actually both picks (which would probably end up being in the top 5 and the 10-14 range)

There is obviously a huge fit issue to consider, he'd be a bench player and there isn't a rotation where he wouldn't be sharing the floor with another player that can't shoot (Murray, Parker, Anderson,) not to mention Spurs already have Parker, Murray, Green, White, Walker and Mills at guard with Manu potentially coming back.
Fucking gross.

[MoSpur02]

I've been saying that he wants the max offer. Spurs aren't willing to offer it yet. They want to know how healthy he really is. The max offer is the only thing that can mend this relationship. Whether the Spurs offer it or whether his camp backs off of it somehow or someway

[look_at_g_shred]

I've been saying that he wants the max offer. Spurs aren't willing to offer it yet. They want to know how healthy he really is. The max offer is the only thing that can mend this relationship. Whether the Spurs offer it or whether his camp backs off of it somehow or someway
Exactly this

[ducks]

That shit is worse than the shit Magic is pedaling.

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The Sixers have yet to make a formal trade offer to San Antonio, but Philadelphia is internally discussing several trade packages the Spurs prefer in a Kawhi Leonard trade, sources say. Full details on Philly's Kawhi strategy:

[cd021]

If the offers are Boston without brown or Tatum or Ingram and a crappy pick, I would rather just keep kwahi and hope that over the next season things work out.


Ingram, Kuzma, Wagner, 1st+ cap space

Do it

PATFO's rep may never recover from such a trash deal.

[baseline bum]

Zach Lowe on The Jump: The package that the Lakers and Spurs would consider "the line" is Ingram, Kuzma, and two first round picks. More and it's too much for the Lakers, but less and it's not enough for San Antonio.

:rollin

Two first rounders around 28-30 can have negative value since you're giving guaranteed contracts to basically second round talent, and there is no way a Lakers team with James + Leonard isn't top 3.

[SAGirl]

Zach Lowe on The Jump: The package that the Lakers and Spurs would consider "the line" is Ingram, Kuzma, and two first round picks. More and it's too much for the Lakers, but less and it's not enough for San Antonio.
Lowe is these days very prone to just be giving his opinions and nothing from any source.

thanks for posting tho. Not quoting you for any other reason than otherwise it's too tough to keep track of replies in this thread since it's so long already.

[SpursDynasty85]

Kuzma, Ingram, and two first round picks is the best haul we are going to get sans a commitment from Kawhi to go elsewhere. However I'm sure Spurs would take around 80 cents on the dollar to that to trade him to the east

[exstatic]

I think it's also worth noting that IF the Spurs were really sooooo concerned about Kawhi's supposedly degenerative quads that will only get worse and worse ....

they would have traded his ass before the draft.

I don't think they're concerned. I just think they want something in writing from The Group so that if he suddenly decides not to play, they have instant recourse.

[NASpurs]

Fuck off Lakers, we don't need you but you do need us. :lol

[look_at_g_shred]

Fischer: San Antonio has informed teams its preferred target in any Leonard trade is the Celtics' Jayson Tatum, sources say. It’s widely believed in league circles that Boston is more likely to propose a deal centered around Kyrie Irving and future picks.
Irving + Brown + Pick ... Get it done

[cd021]

Fucking gross.

Smart or the 2 lottery picks? Cause Smart is such a non fit that it actually gives me pause on whether the Spurs should even consider such a trade.

[look_at_g_shred]

Smart or the 2 lottery picks? Cause Smart is sch a non fit that it actually gives me pause on whether the Spurs should even consider such a trade.
The smart portion of it.

[cd021]

Irving + Brown + Pick ... Get it done

Irving has reportedly been interested in the Knicks, Spurs would be be in the same boat with him than they are with Kawhi. Brown doesn't seem to be on the table, neither does Tatum

[exstatic]

Eh. The Spurs are in the position of strength. Every day that goes by without a deal, the pressure on the Lakers increases.

The longer this drags on, the better for SA, though it weakens their position with Boston and Philly.

LA's desperation may cause them to do something stupid, or use up their cap space, increasing our leverage with BOS and PHI.

[bklynspursfan]

That shit is worse than the shit Magic is pedaling.

They won't show their hand yet. I'm sure once they get into discussing stuff things can change. Personally, I'd rather him go to Philly and screw over the Lakers anyway.

[objective]

:rollin

Two first rounders around 28-30 can have negative value since you're giving guaranteed contracts to basically second round talent, and there is no way a Lakers team with James + Leonard isn't top 3.

10cents on the dollar

Funny how Magic's mouthpiece Shelburne peddles that the Lakers weren't even considering moving Ingram who the Spurs were begging for but now Lowe is tossing him in there so easy.

[SAGirl]

In the article Zach Lowe dropped about a week ago, he mentioned that Boston would prefer a S&T involving Kawhi for Smart and the Kings and Grizzlies picks.

If that is the case, then it would depend on whether the Spurs like Smart, how much and long does his contract run and whether it is actually both picks (which would probably end up being in the top 5 and the 10-14 range)

There is obviously a huge fit issue to consider, he'd be a bench player and there isn't a rotation where he wouldn't be sharing the floor with another player that can't shoot (Murray, Parker, Anderson,) not to mention Spurs already have Parker, Murray, Green, White, Walker and Mills at guard with Manu potentially coming back.
I can completely understand if the spurs hung up the phone on Boston and decided to wait it out longer back then.
they already have a defensive stud in Murray and don't need Smart. They need guys who can score and Smart isn't it. I am sure RC told Ainge to keep looking in his stash for a better offer.

[coachmac87]

Irving + Brown + Pick ... Get it done

That would be the dream

[dbreiden83080]

I was already very concerned about this injury when the Spurs were rumored to offer the Supermax to him. I figure it can't be helped considering the circumstances, but it has been a major red flag, the injury, the super long rehab, etc. I was already concerned he would have durability issues the rest of the way.

The excuses made for him sitting out such as, "He wanted his money, and was not going to risk further injury, or he just was mad at the team for the handling of his injury" simply DO NOT fly with me. A competitor goes out there and plays. You play with pain, you play with adversity, you give it your all. All of the Big 3 did it for years. Name the all time great player, and they did it for years. Leonard reveled his true nature this season. He does not WANT this bad enough. Not to be the franchise guy. Buyer Beware..

[lmbebo]

I like marcus smart - but few issues :
1 - he wants to get paid -- $15 million+ I read, imagine people complaining now about Mills, when you get Smart on board making more and can't put the ball in the hole ...
2 - no shooting/offensive issues, but net energy/hustle guy who does a lot for your team -- really depends on other parts of the team if thats going to work or not .... without Kwahi, don't think it does.
3- does he fit with other Spurs players already on board?

[BatManu20]

Trolling

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[Russ]

If the Spurs don't blink:

Capologists and CBA experts please opine --

1. If Kawhi refuses to report, can the Spurs withhold his salary. Is there some CBA mechanism (e.g., arbitration) to resolve whether he is legitimately injured, etc?

2. Would Kawhi's expiring $20 million contract have some value next season?

[Spurs9]

Thats insulting to offer Smart + pick for Kawhi, Ainge is just trying to see who he can hustle out there.

[lmbebo]

Trolling

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Don't understand ..

[SpursDynasty85]

Thats insulting to offer Smart + pick for Kawhi, Ainge is just trying to see who he can hustle out there.

Boston fans and Philly fans are thinking the same thing about RC tbh.

[RD2191]

The excuses made for him sitting out such as, "He wanted his money, and was not going to risk further injury, or he just was mad at the team for the handling of his injury" simply DO NOT fly with me. A competitor goes out there and plays. You play with pain, you play with adversity, you give it your all. All of the Big 3 did it for years. Name the all time great player, and they did it for years. Leonard reveled his true nature this season. He does not WANT this bad enough. Not to be the franchise guy. Buyer Beware..

:lol

[SpursBig3s]

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1012414859940687872

[Mugen]

If the Spurs don't blink:

Capologists and CBA experts please opine --

1. If Kawhi refuses to report, can the Spurs withhold his salary. Is there some CBA mechanism (e.g., arbitration) to resolve whether he is legitimately injured, etc?

2. Would Kawhi's expiring $20 million contract have some value next season?

#1 that would be career suicide for Leonard. The amount of money he'd give up and the absolute beating his reputation would take.
#2 Absolutely

[LkrFan]

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Get er done Maginka :lol

[spursreport]

Irving + Brown + Pick ... Get it done

Cook so an injury probe Irving, an overrated guard in Brown who is nothing special, and meaningless picks. The longer this drags out, the worse these ideas are.

[DPG21920]

Ingram + Kuz is bull crap. I really hope that isn’t the best offer but SA may be out of luck.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

If the Spurs don't blink:

Capologists and CBA experts please opine --

1. If Kawhi refuses to report, can the Spurs withhold his salary. Is there some CBA mechanism (e.g., arbitration) to resolve whether he is legitimately injured, etc?

2. Would Kawhi's expiring $20 million contract have some value next season?

On #1, the Spurs could request league doctors to step in and determine the extent of the supposed injury. If he's faking it he'd owe the Spurs the salary back. I'm also guessing if he has something degenerative, etc., his camp would want to avoid that review.

2. Could, but earth would be long scorched at that point.

[exstatic]

They won't show their hand yet. I'm sure once they get into discussing stuff things can change. Personally, I'd rather him go to Philly and screw over the Lakers anyway.

Oh, definitely. If you can get Fultz, Saric, NOT Covington but other salary filler (Bayless? he's an ending contract), and that Miami unprotected 2021 pick, you do it.

[SpursDynasty85]

Ingram + Kuz is bull crap. I really hope that isn’t the best offer but SA may be out of luck.

You dont think our Spurs staff could develop those guys into all stars?

[objective]

If the Spurs don't blink:

Capologists and CBA experts please opine --

1. If Kawhi refuses to report, can the Spurs withhold his salary. Is there some CBA mechanism (e.g., arbitration) to resolve whether he is legitimately injured, etc?

2. Would Kawhi's expiring $20 million contract have some value next season?

per CBAfaq


The league or a player's team can levy a fine and/or suspension for breaking league or team rules1, respectively. Generally the league and the team do not both discipline a player for the same violation, and the league retains the right to rescind any team discipline within 48 hours and impose its own. However, there are a few exceptions where a player can be disciplined by both the league and his team -- when the egregious nature of the act or conduct is so lacking in justification as to warrant a double penalty. The CBA does not give a complete list of reasons for which a player can be fined or suspended, although some are specified:

....

Intentional failure or refusal to render the services required under the player's contract or the CBA: Suspension (length unspecified).

...

Players are not paid while they are suspended -- for each missed game, the player is docked a portion of his salary, whether suspended for a preseason, regular season or postseason game (see question number 13 for information on how suspensions impact team salary) as follows:

If the suspension is less than 20 games, 1/145 of his base compensation.
If the suspension is 20 or more games, or an indefinite suspension that lasts at least 20 games, 1/110 of his base compensation.

...

A suspended player can be traded.

[baseline bum]

Might as well just let Leonard try to earn that supermax back and then dare him to take an $80 million paycut. Nothing being offered beats even a 10% chance that he makes an All NBA team next season, shows he is worth the contract, and signs it.

[objective]

Don't understand ..

the person he's addressing is on the Spurs summer league team

[Hoops Czar]

You dont think our Spurs staff could develop those guys into all stars?
If they did, they'd be gone once they hit free agency.

[DAF86]

Fuck the Lakers. If they sign Lebron and PG, there's literally no chance of them signing Kawhi next offseason. So yeah, fuck them. Don't do them any favours.

[dbestpro]

You dont think our Spurs staff could develop those guys into all stars?

No.

[spurraider21]

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Get er done Maginka :lol
hmm, so lebron and kawhi together but...

This was reported last night
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but not in LA...

hmm

[BatManu20]

Don't understand ..


The guy he tagged in the tweet is one of his friends/former college teammates. He’s just congratulating him on making this for summer league roster, but he clearly posted it right now with the word San Antonio in it just to scare his followers for a second

[Mugen]

Ingram + Kuz is bull crap. I really hope that isn’t the best offer but SA may be out of luck.

If Pop and RC cuck now, what a fucking embarrassment.

[SpursDynasty85]

If they did, they'd be gone once they hit free agency.

Lol. Looking through a small lens there buddy. Could say that about anybody they trade for then.

[midnightpulp]

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My point exactly. This dude already sweating the chance he might be in SA next season. I dont care how much "potential" the Lakers prospects have. They wouldn't be Spurs longterm. These aren't "building blocks" for the future

[SpursBig3s]

The media is freaking out because LeBron has given the Lakers a deadline.

Nothing for the Spurs has changed.

They are not in a hurry.

They are not afraid to let Kawhi walk in free agency in a year.

They are not going to trade for crap they don’t want just for the sake of getting something.

They understand that they’ll get 50 cents on the dollar at best.

They are not going to hand $219 million to a player, regardless of talent, who malingered and quit on his team for most of a season, unless they see a change in which he mans up and takes accountability for his behavior.

Because if he doesn’t, you can’t build a team around him anyway.

So they are fine with moving on.

But they are willing to keep the door open should he have a change of heart, up until someone offers a trade they like, or he leaves in free agency.



After 201 pages of straight garbage, finally somebody with some common sense.

:bobo

[Hoops Czar]

Might as well just let Leonard try to earn that supermax back and then dare him to take an $80 million paycut. Nothing being offered beats even a 10% chance that he makes an All NBA team next season, shows he is worth the contract, and signs it.
Can the Spurs realistically offer a supermax without making changes to the roster or while still improving the team?

[NASpurs]

Might as well just let Leonard try to earn that supermax back and then dare him to take an $80 million paycut. Nothing being offered beats even a 10% chance that he makes an All NBA team next season, shows he is worth the contract, and signs it.

Yeah I rather gamble and keep him and see if playing for another year with the Spurs can patch things up and get signed to the supermax than accepting any of these crap packages.

[SpursDynasty85]

After 201 pages of straight garbage, finally somebody with some common sense.

:bobo

I wouldn't say they would just let him walk. They would trade him east before they did that.

[Mr. Body]

Here's what is going to happen: after all this, the Spurs are going to offer Kawhi somewhere between the top he could make signing with the Lakers and the Supermax. He always wanted the Supermax but knew the Spurs we wary about spending that cash on anybody. It's just not the Spurs way. His camp them badly overplayed things and will never get those millions back. The Spurs will offer something in between and this whole saga is over.

[SpursDynasty85]

Here's what is going to happen: after all this, the Spurs are going to offer Kawhi somewhere between the top he could make signing with the Lakers and the Supermax. He always wanted the Supermax but knew the Spurs we wary about spending that cash on anybody. It's just not the Spurs way. His camp them badly overplayed things and will never get those millions back. The Spurs will offer something in between and this whole saga is over.

Pretty sure the relationship is irreparable. Supermax or not.

[baseline bum]

Can the Spurs realistically offer a supermax without making changes to the roster or while improving the team?

Yes, as they'd have Bird Rights.

[BatManu20]

Here's what is going to happen: after all this, the Spurs are going to offer Kawhi somewhere between the top he could make signing with the Lakers and the Supermax. He always wanted the Supermax but knew the Spurs we wary about spending that cash on anybody. It's just not the Spurs way. His camp them badly overplayed things and will never get those millions back. The Spurs will offer something in between and this whole saga is over.


Hope you’re right. Don’t think you are. I think he’s 100% gone.

[dbestpro]

Go look at the highlights of the Laker players. Ingram is a good catch and shoot, can drive to the basket, but plays no defense. He plays defense real stiff and looks like a statue. Reminds me of a tall Forbes. Kuzma is fluid, shoots well, and moves well, but gets knocked around easily. He probably is on par with Bertans except he is more mobile. Ball has the best feel for the game. He may not shoot well, but he does everything else well. He is the next Jason Kidd. The problem with him is dad. At this point dad may be better than uncle.

[cd98]

Kawhi calling LeBron, that's pretty funny. I mean, who calls someone and says, hey I play good defense and so I can defend so you don't have to? It's like people are just making stuff up.

[RD2191]

Yeah, fuck the Lakers. Let Kawhi walk in the off-season. Fuck those Laker fags.

[spursistan]

Might as well just let Leonard try to earn that supermax back and then dare him to take an $80 million paycut. Nothing being offered beats even a 10% chance that he makes an All NBA team next season, shows he is worth the contract, and signs it.
Your are gonna get called "emotional", but the reality is Leonard and his camp have played all their cards; they have two options next season..

either (a) he straightens up his act ( to come and play awith still a chance to get moved by the trade deadline); or (b) commit career suicide..

[baseline bum]

Here's what is going to happen: after all this, the Spurs are going to offer Kawhi somewhere between the top he could make signing with the Lakers and the Supermax. He always wanted the Supermax but knew the Spurs we wary about spending that cash on anybody. It's just not the Spurs way. His camp them badly overplayed things and will never get those millions back. The Spurs will offer something in between and this whole saga is over.

If he takes less it likely means he thinks his career is in danger.

[Mr. Body]

Pretty sure the relationship is irreparable. Supermax or not.

We haven't hear a word for Kawhi. Everything is hearsay at this point.

[Mr. Body]

If he takes less it likely means he thinks his career is in danger.

In this case it's making more (than what LA can give him). I don't know if he really wants LA. I think he's been letting his uncle push for that top dollar. I believe the reports that he doesn't want the paparazzi experience involved in playing in LA.

I mean, back up for a second. We've gotten to know Kawhi over these years he's been with the team. What do you know about him? What about those traits don't feel right as all this has been going on?

[NASpurs]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/28/sports/kawhi-leonard-san-antonio-spurs.html?smid=tw-nytsports&smtyp=cur


The San Antonio Spurs are moving closer to cutting ties with their superstar forward Kawhi Leonard, according to two people familiar with the team’s thinking, though the timetable on a potential trade remains unclear.

Realizing that hopes of repairing its damaged relationship with Leonard are fading by the day, San Antonio is ready to move on from Leonard provided that a palatable trade offer materializes this off-season, according to the people, who were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

The Spurs have until the N.B.A.’s annual trade deadline in February 2019 to keep weighing their options before they risk losing Leonard without compensation when he becomes a free agent next summer.

"two people familiar with the team's thinking" :lol wtf is that shit... are these what we consider sources nowadays? Fuck off Stein.

[mudyez]

With all the stupid Laker fucks going crazy on Twitter, I'm hoping for Pop to show them the middle finger and just keep Kawhi or trade him to the Sixers for a Saric+Covington+Picks (or Boston for anything).

[DPG21920]

You dont think our Spurs staff could develop those guys into all stars?

I don’t care if they can - as of today it’s a crap deal.

[SpursDynasty85]

We haven't hear a word for Kawhi. Everything is hearsay at this point.

If Marc Stein, Shams, and Wojnarowski are reporting it. It has legs. Unless Kawhi is bound and tied up in a closet, then for me, it's safe to say that Kawhi has made up his mind.

[LkrFan]

My point exactly. This dude already sweating the chance he might be in SA next season. I dont care how much "potential" the Lakers prospects have. They wouldn't be Spurs longterm. These aren't "building blocks" for the future

How exactly is he "sweating" tbh? He already plays on the biggest stage (New York don't count; haven't won shit in 40+ years).

[Mr. Body]

If Marc Stein, Shams, and Wojnarowski are reporting it. It has legs. Unless Kawhi is bound and tied up in a closet, then for me, it's safe to say that Kawhi has made up his mind.

You're welcome to, but these are just reporters and every single side has an agenda to push through reporters.

[Mugen]

How exactly is he "sweating" tbh? He already plays on the biggest stage (New York don't count; haven't won shit in 40+ years).

I know you're ESL but your reading comprehension is terrible, amigo.

[spursistan]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/28/sports/kawhi-leonard-san-antonio-spurs.html?smid=tw-nytsports&smtyp=cur



"two people familiar with the team's thinking" :lol wtf is that shit... are these what we consider sources nowadays? Fuck off Stein.

He's fallen off a cliff :lol

[DPG21920]

With all the stupid Laker fucks going crazy on Twitter, I'm hoping for Pop to show them the middle finger and just keep Kawhi or trade him to the Sixers for a Saric+Covington+Picks (or Boston for anything).

I will literally die. NO

[tbdog]

We haven't hear a word for Kawhi. Everything is hearsay at this point.

We haven't heard anything from him in months. Don't think that will change.

[dbestpro]

Would you trade Leonard for a tall version of Forbes, a slightly more mobile Bertrans and a couple of very late number one picks? That essentially is what the Lakers are offering.

[DPG21920]

How exactly is he "sweating" tbh? He already plays on the biggest stage (New York don't count; haven't won shit in 40+ years).

He’s saying he’s sweating being in SA since he doesn’t want to be there. He wants LA, etc..

[objective]

How exactly is he "sweating" tbh? He already plays on the biggest stage (New York don't count; haven't won shit in 40+ years).

he's sweating because he doesn't want to leave LA

[SpursDynasty85]

You're welcome to, but these are just reporters and every single side has an agenda to push through reporters.

Yep. Players and agents use them for a purpose but you dont throw things like this out there and/or not deny them if the whole world is saying it. Coming out now and saying all this is false would be the most surprising thing so far.

[dbreiden83080]

hmm, so lebron and kawhi together but...

but not in LA...

hmm

And he goes to LA and it is 1 Giant Ass Circus. He stays in SA, he can just play ball and fly under the radar. Hopefully win chips and forge a legacy that is about basketball like TD. Not about who you are dating, or how many times TMZ does a story on you.. SA is 1 big family, unless you fake an injury all year..

[dbreiden83080]

We haven't heard anything from him in months. Don't think that will change.

And he expects to go the largest media market alongside NY in the league and not talk?? Yeah that will fly..

[Spurs da champs]

Lmao, I agree some of these offers aint worthy of a top 3 player, but man Spur fans are fucking idiots that overrate the hell out of their own players while criminally underrating other teams players. Kuzma a "slightly more mobile Bertans" are you kidding me? :lmao

[Marcus Bryant]

Would you trade Leonard for a tall version of Forbes, a slightly more mobile Bertrans and a couple of very late number one picks? That essentially is what the Lakers are offering.

Heh. The Godfather offer. Lakers just spreading that nonsense to make it sound like they're hardcore pursuing a deal.

[KDKSpurs24]

Lmao, I agree some of these offers aint worthy of a top 3 player, but man Spur fans are fucking idiots that overrate the hell out of their own players while criminally underrating other teams players. Kuzma a "slightly more mobile Bertans" are you kidding me? :lmao

[exstatic]

Boston fans and Philly fans are thinking the same thing about RC tbh.

Right. Hustling teams with a multi time AS, All NBA, All D, DPOY.

[RD2191]

Lmao, I agree some of these offers aint worthy of a top 3 player, but man Spur fans are fucking idiots that overrate the hell out of their own players while criminally underrating other teams players. Kuzma a "slightly more mobile Bertans" are you kidding me? :lmao

Tbh :lol

[midnightpulp]

How exactly is he "sweating" tbh? He already plays on the biggest stage (New York don't count; haven't won shit in 40+ years).

He's sweating at the prospect of being traded away from that biggest stage. My point is trading kawhi for the lakers prospects won't help the spurs longterm because those players will bolt as they enter their primes. Laker prospects also notoriously underperform after they leave LA. I'd rather the spurs make kawhi suffer for another year, and screw the lakers super team plans in the process. The only assets I would want for him are lottery picks.

[dbestpro]

Look at the video of the Laker players and stop reading the press clippings. Then make your valuations. Only Ball stands out.

[BatManu20]

More bullshit I assume. But posting anyways.

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[Spurs9]

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[Mr. Body]

We haven't heard anything from him in months. Don't think that will change.

Yes, I'm aware

[CitizenDwayne]

Kuzma a "slightly more mobile Bertans" are you kidding me? :lmao

Yeah that’s a headscratcher

[exstatic]

More bullshit I assume. But posting anyways.

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KLove. Bron gone.

[NASpurs]

More bullshit I assume. But posting anyways.

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[mudyez]

Would you trade Leonard for a tall version of Forbes, a slightly more mobile Bertrans and a couple of very late number one picks? That essentially is what the Lakers are offering.

They are offering Marco Belinelli and Rasual Butler?

Deal!

[daslicer]

Kawhi calling LeBron, that's pretty funny. I mean, who calls someone and says, hey I play good defense and so I can defend so you don't have to? It's like people are just making stuff up.

More like Kawhi's Uncle called Lebron and put the call on speaker phone.

Uncle Dennis: "Lebron Kawhi would love to play with you."

Lebron: "I have heard Kawhi doesn't want to play with me."

Uncle Dennis: "Kawhi do you want to play with Lebron?"

Kawhi "Uhm Yes."

Uncle Dennis : "Lebron, Kawhi would be able to help you out a lot on the defensive end. Kawhi you could help Lebron out on defense right?"

Kawhi: "Uhm yes."

Lebron "Oright now all we have to do is get the Lakers to trade for Kawhi."

Uncle Dennis "I'm working on it right now as we speak."

[RD2191]

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These fucks really are worthless:lol

[Killakobe81]

Here's what is going to happen: after all this, the Spurs are going to offer Kawhi somewhere between the top he could make signing with the Lakers and the Supermax. He always wanted the Supermax but knew the Spurs we wary about spending that cash on anybody. It's just not the Spurs way. His camp them badly overplayed things and will never get those millions back. The Spurs will offer something in between and this whole saga is over.

sure, buddy.
Not saying KL wont be a Spur next year but even if he signs this is far from over.
Evrytime he gets nicked up this will all come back to the forefront.
I think the lets kiss and make-up dreamers are bing naive ...I am NOT saying it can not or WILL NOT be repaired ...
but acting as though just paying him will solve this mess is awfully naive.

[Mugen]

sure, buddy.
Not saying KL wont be a Spur next year but even if he signs this is far from over.
Evrytime he gets nicked up this will all come back to the forefront.
I think the lets kiss and make-up dreamers are bing naive ...I am NOT saying it can not or WILL NOT be repaired ...
but acting as though just paying him will solve this mess is awfully naive.

Spot on, Killa. And I'm sure having Uncle Dennis, Lavar, Rich Paul, PG with Luke running the show is not going to be an issue at all too.

[Mugen]

But yeah, Kawhi isn't coming back. Stein, Woj, McDonald, Jabari, etc. all reporting that the relationship is basically beyond repair means that's likely the case.

I honestly hope that mute fuck goes the way of DRose in a year or two tbh.

[MoSpur02]

I don't think they're concerned. I just think they want something in writing from The Group so that if he suddenly decides not to play, they have instant recourse.

This

[DPG21920]

Kawhi and Lebron is going to be sick. Makes me sad.

[spursistan]

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Can somebody run over this faggot with a truck.

[picnroll]

I’m not believing any of this trade talk until Trump weighs in on his Twitter account.

[Killakobe81]

Lmao, I agree some of these offers aint worthy of a top 3 player, but man Spur fans are fucking idiots that overrate the hell out of their own players while criminally underrating other teams players. Kuzma a "slightly more mobile Bertans" are you kidding me? :lmao

That is the part that kills me too ... he is overrated on LG but underrated here.
I think is ceiling is a reliable 4th or 5th starter
But his ideal role would be as prime Robert horry.
A spot starter/6th man.
That can play a small ball PF or big line up SF
He has less defense but more offense.
But ....

Robert Freaking Horry might be one of the most clutch playoff/finals shotmakers in NBA history ... you cant count on ANYONE doing THAT
But LG wants to make him to an all- star ... maybe he does get get there but I think Horry or Odom (fringe all-star) is more likely.

And spur fans comnparing him to clarkson are crazy that kid has a very low BBIQ ...

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[SpursDynasty85]

Right. Hustling teams with a multi time AS, All NBA, All D, DPOY.

Spurs would not sell house for a disgruntled player who won't give a commitment to them either.

[Dex]

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Can somebody run over this faggot with a truck.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: it's easy to have fun when the deck is stacked in your favor. It's like playing Doom on God Mode.

[Mugen]

I'd be thrilled if Jabari was the victim of a stray bullet tbh.

[Mr. Body]

sure, buddy.
Not saying KL wont be a Spur next year but even if he signs this is far from over.
Evrytime he gets nicked up this will all come back to the forefront.
I think the lets kiss and make-up dreamers are bing naive ...I am NOT saying it can not or WILL NOT be repaired ...
but acting as though just paying him will solve this mess is awfully naive.

Ah, I see you're the Golden boy that injuries everything, including how Kawhi's personality completely changed in one year. Gorgeous reasoning there

[Mr. Body]

But yeah, Kawhi isn't coming back. Stein, Woj, McDonald, Jabari, etc. all reporting that the relationship is basically beyond repair means that's likely the case.

I honestly hope that mute fuck goes the way of DRose in a year or two tbh.

Who employs those reporters?

[Hoops Czar]

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Can somebody run over this faggot with a truck.

And he's right . You can add to it playing alongside, overpaid, untalented, unathletic system players that can't shoot, dribble or pass a basketball. This culture schtik died with Tim Duncan's retirement. It's time for a change.

[Killakobe81]

Spot on, Killa. And I'm sure having Uncle Dennis, Lavar, Rich Paul, PG with Luke running the show is not going to be an issue at all too.

OH trust me I know my Lakers ...
if this ish happens we will be run by agents: Pelinka was one just a few years ago, Lebron comes with his Rich Paul crew and Lavar is always lurking.
What a potential shit show.

[Spurs da champs]

That is the part that kills me too ... he is overrated on LG but underrated here.
I think is ceiling is a reliable 4th or 5th starter
But his ideal role would be as prime Robert horry.
A spot starter/6th man.
That can play a small ball PF or big line up SF
He has less defense but more offense.
But ....

Robert Freaking Horry might be one of the most clutch playoff/finals shotmakers in NBA history ... you cant count on ANYONE doing THAT
But LG wants to make him to an all- star ... maybe he does get get there but I think Horry or Odom (fringe all-star) is more likely.

And spur fans comnparing him to clarkson are crazy that kid has a very low BBIQ ...
How do you rate Ingram compared to Jaylen Brown?

[DPG21920]

And he's right . You can add to it playing alongside, overpaid, untalented, unathletic system players that can't shoot, dribble or pass a basketball. This culture schtik died with Tim Duncan. It's time for a change.

They got to a WCF without Tim. It was doing well before Kawhi did this.

[dabom]

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Can somebody run over this faggot with a truck.

:lol

[daslicer]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: it's easy to have fun when the deck is stacked in your favor. It's like playing Doom on God Mode.

I remember playing Quake back in the day on God Mode. That was a lot of fun especially turning it on when playing multiplayer.

[Spurs da champs]

They got to a WCF without Tim. It was doing well before Kawhi did this.
Might have gotten the 6th chip too if not for Zaza. :downspin:

[Joseph Kony]

Might have gotten the 6th chip too if not for Zaza. :downspin:
tim retired by then

[objective]

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Can somebody run over this faggot with a truck.

Jabroni is such a damn idiot

Did he miss David West talking about how things were bad behind the scenes?

Did he miss the other stories about trouble in paradise?

What a damn idiot

Yeah, Pop sure runs things like the military. Dejounte sure looks like he's in basic with that grunt hairstyle

[lmbebo]

And he's right . You can add to it playing alongside, overpaid, untalented, unathletic system players that can't shoot, dribble or pass a basketball. This culture schtik died with Tim Duncan. It's time for a change.

Environment is as much of a organizational thing as it is a players thing. A few years ago, all you saw were photos of Mills, Diaw, Splitter, Manu, etc hanging out and having fun. Tim created that culture as much as anyone else. Pop always looks like he's enjoying himself, joking around, etc. At least in front of the cameras. It is a business and things need to be done for winning, etc. But no one ever claimed or thought about the Spurs locker room/organization being a mess like Sac or LAL a few years ago ..

Now, Kwahi and LMA lead this team, what kind of culture do we have? Only players I see positively contributing to it are Murray, Green, Mills and Manu ... Kwahi seems like he's distanced himself from everyone else. If he's not having "fun", maybe he should look in the mirror to find out why.

Does he think being in a bigger city in front of much more media attention, etc is going to be more fun?

[spursmvp]

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Can somebody run over this faggot with a truck.

Is that why Timmy manu and tp stayed here their entire careers when they could've made more elsewhere? TP is a pretty big partier, dood started a nightclub in SA.

Also:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBluoacIRwc

How does Jabari have time to tweet when he's sucking off kawhi 24/7.

[Hoops Czar]

They got to a WCF without Tim. It was doing well before Kawhi did this.
It was one man wrecking crew. They also got huge contributions from very unlikely sources like Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili. Lightning doesn't usually strike twice in the same place. When Kawhi went down, the Spurs flamed out in epic fashion.

[Spurs da champs]

tim retired by then

In Franchise history. :lol

[Killakobe81]

Ah, I see you're the Golden boy that injuries everything, including how Kawhi's personality completely changed in one year. Gorgeous reasoning there

Like i said I am not pushing the "it can not be fixed narrative" ... $219 million solves plenty of problems.
I am just saying I don't buy that it will solve all the problems.
IF he returns he has alienated some of the fans and even some of his team-mates and former players.
But if he comes back and plays well I Say most of it will be forgiven ... Heck, Lebron went back to Cleveland after jeresey were burnt.
But Spur fans (from living there and posting here) aren't as deserate as Cavs fans ...at least that is not how I view y'all.
You guys are insecure and petty but not pathetic ...

I hope yall dont burn his jersey s and cry if he leaves but who knows nowadays ...

[RD2191]

Pop is an old school coach and is used to coaching old school players. The league is changing, having fun does matter to a lot of these guys, like it or not. Jabari is an idiot but I can definitely see where he's coming from here.

[daslicer]

It was one man wrecking crew. They also got huge contributions from very unlikely sources like Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili. Lightning doesn't usually strike twice in the same place. When Kawhi went down, the Spurs flamed out in epic fashion.

That tends to happen when your best player gets taken out.

[lmbebo]

Like i said I am not pushing the "it can not be fixed narrative" ... $219 million solves plenty of problems.
I am just saying I don't buy that it will solve all the problems.
IF he returns he has alienated some of the fans and even some of his team-mates and former players.
But if he comes back and plays well I Say most of it will be forgiven ... Heck, Lebron went back to Cleveland after jeresey were burnt.
But Spur fans (from living there and posting here) aren't as deserate as Cavs fans ...at least that is not how I view y'all.
You guys are insecure and petty but not pathetic ...

I hope yall dont burn his jersey s and cry if he leaves but who knows nowadays ...


winning heals a lot of wounds.

Even with all this crap going on, I would still welcome Kwahi back (assuming he doesn't stub his toe and need to go to Europe for 12 month rehab session ...). He's a talent you can't replace.

[tbdog]

How do you rate Ingram compared to Jaylen Brown?

Better, and on par with Tatum.

[mclinejr]

Like i said I am not pushing the "it can not be fixed narrative" ... $219 million solves plenty of problems.
I am just saying I don't buy that it will solve all the problems.
IF he returns he has alienated some of the fans and even some of his team-mates and former players.
But if he comes back and plays well I Say most of it will be forgiven ... Heck, Lebron went back to Cleveland after jeresey were burnt.
But Spur fans (from living there and posting here) aren't as deserate as Cavs fans ...at least that is not how I view y'all.
You guys are insecure and petty but not pathetic ...

I hope yall dont burn his jersey s and cry if he leaves but who knows nowadays ...

+1

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