Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[LkrFan]

:lmao

:lol

[LkrFan]

Youre a secretary sweetheart, don’t sass me

:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

A prop bet like a trade isn't as straightforward as getting equal money on both sides of a bet or protecting their liability on a futures bet..

Doesn't mean that Kawhi is getting traded there, but it does mean that somebody important heard enough that made them throw a probable high five-figure amount on it(just like LeBron)

[marinoman]

Honestly though if spurs don’t take dung or randle then they have to take all of lakers young players including bozo to make the numbers work

[MoSpur02]

Just get it over with. I'm cool with trading for L.A if they take back Gasol and Mills and we get, Ingram, Hart, Kuzma or Randle (1 of the 2, and a pick.

[Spurs9]

I don't even know what those odds mean tbh. Can someone explain it, and how much did it actually change? I'm reading it as the likelihood of a trade changed all of a sudden due to increased bets or something?

[ducks]

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[Marcus Bryant]

Just get it over with. I'm cool with trading for L.A if they take back Gasol and Mills and we get, Ingram, Hart, Kuzma or Randle (1 of the 2, and a pick.

Give the Clips one last shot tbh.

[MoSpur02]

Give the Clips one last shot tbh.

Been saying I wouldn't be surprised if West pulls out some crazy trade package that would be a good one.

[Seventyniner]

It's funny that now I wish the Lakers had made better picks the last few years.

[MoSpur02]

The only players that the Clippers have that may be worth something are Harris, Teodosic, and Williams. Not sure we need any of them except Harris.

[Spurs9]

Maybe some 3 team deal where the Clippers take on a bad contract, get Kawhi, and another team sends a asset to the Spurs, along with players and picks from the Clippers?

[marinoman]

Some days some posts here say, spurs have to be patient, some days “Just get it over with “. Im still the former

[BatManu20]

No way it was offered.

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[Spurs9]

https://i.imgur.com/s8P7j5a.png
:lol
Add in some Clippers picks.

[apalisoc_9]

Clippers.

Done.

[Spurs9]

No way it was offered.

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Those picks became alot less valuable when Lebron signed there though.

[Spurs da champs]

Everybody thought Oladipo & Sabonis were B & C level talent last year. Ingram's ceiling>Oladipo.

[Spurs9]

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[BatManu20]

Don't buy it.



"Prior to getting LeBron James, Sam_amick says the Lakers' "Godfather offer" for Kawhi Leonard was rumored to be Brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart and 2 or 3 first-rounders (with LA also trying to find a home for a bad Spurs contract). FULL PODCAST:"

[spurraider21]

Clippers.

Done.
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[MoSpur02]

Brandon Ingram and who else?

[Mugen]

...

Eric Cisneors :lol

[Spurs9]

Spurs aren't beating the Warriors anyway, if Lakers add Kawhi at least it will be fun watching those 2 teams go at each other.

[spurschamps99030507]

Charlotte and Denver on Tony Parker's runway

In fact, the French point guard has clearly announced that he is not against a departure, and franchises could offer him a nice place on their bench. According to our colleagues at L’Equipe , the Charlotte Hornets and Denver Nuggets are part of the “five or six teams” who have positioned themselves to convince the four-time NBA champion to change teams. The newspaper also specifies its wage requirements: “a deal on two seasons to the tune of 6 or 7 million dollars per year.”

in French

http://www.basketusa.com/news/506852/charlotte-et-denver-sur-la-piste-de-tony-parker/

[spurraider21]

Eric Cisneors :lol
:lol spurs agree to trade kawhi to another team for a package of players and picks :lol

[MoSpur02]

Mike Scott just agreed to a one year deal with the Clippers

[Ron Swanson]

:lol spurs agree to trade kawhi to another team for a package of players and picks :lol

:lmao

[BatManu20]

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[spurraider21]

lol why is that important enough to be in the kiwi thread

[MoSpur02]

See ya Tony. Thanks for everything

[BatManu20]

lol if Tony Parker signs with Charlotte or Denver

[Mugen]

:lol spurs agree to trade kawhi to another team for a package of players and picks :lol

"Sources confirm Kawhi will be part of the deal"

[MoSpur02]

Because the Clippers are one team interested in trading for Kawhi.

[lmbebo]

Because the Clippers are one team interested in trading for Kawhi.


He would be back in LA ... and not the lakers... I'd rather work for Ballmer/West than Buss/Magic

[baseline bum]

Everybody thought Oladipo & Sabonis were B & C level talent last year. Ingram's ceiling>Oladipo.

Ingram's value over replacement player was 0.4 points, meaning he contributed -1.6 points per 100 possessions since replacement player is -2.0 points per 100 possessions. Fuck this guy he sucks. There is a reason he's the one Lakers scrub not excited about the LeBron signing. He's the one they want to pawn off on the Spurs. Plus they're likely going to need to either take Deng's contract or commit longterm money to Randle to get it done. :vomit:

[baseline bum]

Offensive player with a PER of 13.8. :vomit:

[MoSpur02]

I don't mind a sign and trade that involves Randle. I just don't want any part of Deng.

[HarlemHeat37]

Nuggets tried to sign and trade for LeBron






Settle for Parker:lol

[baseline bum]

Ingram is something like 315 out of 521 players when ranked by win shares. :vomit:

[spurraider21]

i dont buy ingram as a #1 on a good team tbh... not a fan of him being the centerpiece of some trade.

[Ice009]

Man, if the Spurs get reamed on this trade, then I think I'm done with them too. If they get screwed over on a trade, then they fucked up just as much as Kawhi and his crew did.

[Budkin]

Fuck all the Lakers trash. Let Kawhi sit for a year.

[baseline bum]

i dont buy ingram as a #1 on a good team tbh... not a fan of him being the centerpiece of some trade.

What do people see in this guy? Statistically he looks like a bum.

[Killakobe81]

He would be back in LA ... and not the lakers... I'd rather work for Ballmer/West than Buss/Magic

You are silly.
West is a legend/the logo but old AF ...
You dont pick Jett over Amazon or HTC over Apple/samsung/LG as far as where you would work ...stop it.

[HarlemHeat37]

What do people see in this guy? Statistically he looks like a bum.

The jersey he wears, obviously..

Nobody would care about him if he played for the Pistons..

[baseline bum]

I don't mind a sign and trade that involves Randle. I just don't want any part of Deng.

Contracts signed this summer have been surprisingly low but Randle would hold huge power to negotiate a large contract. I'd be surprised if it isn't close to Aldridge money.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I actually thought about that the other day. Just sending Kawhi for scraps to Golden State. In a sick way I feel that would be setting the basketball world on fire and like you said sending a big fuck you to Kawhi and the Lakers.

I’d be okay with it

[daslicer]

The jersey he wears, obviously..

Nobody would care about him if he played for the Pistons..

Or the Hornets

[baseline bum]

The jersey he wears, obviously..


Well other than that :lol

[offset formation]

If you say the Spurs will max DJ...I have to assume they will, which is great. I would hate to see the Spurs losing their own guys season after season.

Lol. Thought you claimed to be a Spurfan, Jabari.

Btw, why you block everyone on Twitter, nancy?

[SuperCam]

probably could have gotten rozier/Brown and a pick at last year's trading deadline. ingram is decent but it's going to be a long long time before spur have another player make 1st team all nba :lol

[E20]

At this point, I just want to see Lebron team up with Kawhi and be the GOAT, no way Spurs are gonna win anytime soon, Pop's on the verge of retirement and so is Manu. Tony is on his last legs and I don't really care for him, so who gives a shit at this point for what we get for Kawhi, he's a lost cause financially and from a players standpoint, just give him to the Lakers and hopefully Demarcus Cousins also signs with the Lakers so Lebron can win like 3 or 4 more rings and be considered the Goat.

[Killakobe81]

What do people see in this guy? Statistically he looks like a bum.

He is not a bum
He is not a #1.
I think he can be a high level #2. potentially but Spurs gotta bring that out of him.
Game is about more than raw #'s you gotta be able to project.

Personally I d rather send you Kuz or Lonzo both have numbers superior to Ingram's in some cartegories.
But Spurs would prefer Ingram and rightfully so ...

Like I said before Irony is he is quiet and humble hard working he fits Spurs better than Lakers tbh ... but whatever.
Whether in LA or SA Ingram will prove me right ...


Legit #1's are hard to come by ... which is why I am glad we got the best one in the game ...

[baseline bum]

Honestly fuck the Lakers deals. If you're going to move Leonard, call up the Warriors and say you can have the mute for Iguodala. Spurs make the NBA even more unwatchable while dicking Magic down and get someone who would do more than Ingram to get them to the 6-seed for the next couple of years, since being a low level playoff team seems to be the goal anyways.

[spurraider21]

Well other than that :lol
draft pedigree. he still has an appealing skill set and good length, plus he's young.

but the "potential" stuff wears thin as time goes by. he's 2 years in and hasn't shown enough to warrant those expectations anymore

[kobyz]

What do people see in this guy? Statistically he looks like a bum.

good numbers for a 20yo, versityle type player while still being raw with a lot of room to improve...

[RD2191]

At this point, I just want to see Lebron team up with Kawhi and be the GOAT, no way Spurs are gonna win anytime soon, Pop's on the verge of retirement and so is Manu. Tony is on his last legs and I don't really care for him, so who gives a shit at this point for what we get for Kawhi, he's a lost cause financially and from a players standpoint, just give him to the Lakers and hopefully Demarcus Cousins also signs with the Lakers so Lebron can win like 3 or 4 more rings and be considered the Goat.

Permaban

[Spurs da champs]

The jersey he wears, obviously..

Nobody would care about him if he played for the Pistons..
Maybe that's people's infatuation with Clarkson or Kuzma, but the upside with Ingram is off the charts, IMO.

[SuperCam]

What do people see in this guy? Statistically he looks like a bum.

if you really thought he was the 300th best player why would PATFO be targeting him in a trade among lakers prospects? he was like 130 lbs last year and just turned 20 there's potential there at least...

[MannyIsGod]

What do people see in this guy? Statistically he looks like a bum.

He's 20, he's athletic, he's skilled, hes on a rookie deal. We don't have many options. You can say that the better option is to get nothing and that's just wrong.

[apalisoc_9]

NBA turning into LA LIGA.

Golden State = Barca
Any brons team = Madrid
Boston = Athletic
Spurs = Las Palmas.

Its getting ridiculous. At least in soccer there is no cap space so its understandble.

But to be protected by cap space and still be the las palmas of the NBA is embarrasing.

[KDKSpurs24]

Ingram's value over replacement player was 0.4 points, meaning he contributed -1.6 points per 100 possessions since replacement player is -2.0 points per 100 possessions. Fuck this guy he sucks. There is a reason he's the one Lakers scrub not excited about the LeBron signing. He's the one they want to pawn off on the Spurs. Plus they're likely going to need to either take Deng's contract or commit longterm money to Randle to get it done. :vomit:
You don’t trust the Spurs development team to help him use his talent effectively? Also another factor to consider.. the Lakers trading him and making him the odd man out can anger him and allow him to push himself to want to be great. The opposite could possibly happen but I think it’s unlikely.

[E20]

Permaban

You gotta have a back up plan and my back up plan has always been Lebron. The Spurs are like some old ass dog about to be put down for a good 20 years. They're 'Old Yeller' personified.

[MannyIsGod]

Honestly fuck the Lakers deals. If you're going to move Leonard, call up the Warriors and say you can have the mute for Iguodala. Spurs make the NBA even more unwatchable while dicking Magic down and get someone who would do more than Ingram to get them to the 6-seed for the next couple of years, since being a low level playoff team seems to be the goal anyways.

Yeah ok.

[baseline bum]

He's 20, he's athletic, he's skilled, hes on a rookie deal. We don't have many options. You can say that the better option is to get nothing and that's just wrong.

And now you're either paying Randle or taking Deng's contract back to get him.

[Spurs da champs]

good numbers for a 20yo, versityle type player while still being raw with a lot of room to improve...
exactly this. dude is a 6'9-6'10 wing with great potential on both sides of the ball. hed excel with Spurs.

[Clipper Nation]

I don't see a Kawhi trade that makes much sense for the Clippers anymore, honestly. We'd be hard-pressed to actually build a team around him with how much we'd have to give up in terms of players, picks, and cap flexibility - and with the LeBron/Lakers hype machine in full effect, we'd still be irrelevant anyway from a business perspective.

[duncan2150]

What do people see in this guy? Statistically he looks like a bum.

We talk about a Guy who averages 16 pts 5 rebounds 4 assists With a 47% shooting ( 39% 3pt) that’s not bad. He may lack a little bit of speed tough.

[Marcus Bryant]

Honestly fuck the Lakers deals. If you're going to move Leonard, call up the Warriors and say you can have the mute for Iguodala. Spurs make the NBA even more unwatchable while dicking Magic down and get someone who would do more than Ingram to get them to the 6-seed for the next couple of years, since being a low level playoff team seems to be the goal anyways.

:tu

[spurraider21]

And now you're either paying Randle or taking Deng's contract back to get him.
why do you keep bringing up deng?

the spurs are the one giving up the star, they're not going to be the one's taking on the albatross contracts here.

it would be randle if anything

[MannyIsGod]

And now you're either paying Randle or taking Deng's contract back to get him.

The Spurs are never taking the Deng contract. Randle, depends on the contract but he's not awful. He could definitely be moved as well. I bet a 3rd team to take him would be easy as fuck to find.

[spurschamps99030507]

Honestly fuck the Lakers deals. If you're going to move Leonard, call up the Warriors and say you can have the mute for Iguodala. Spurs make the NBA even more unwatchable while dicking Magic down and get someone who would do more than Ingram to get them to the 6-seed for the next couple of years, since being a low level playoff team seems to be the goal anyways.

:bobo

[daslicer]

At this point, I just want to see Lebron team up with Kawhi and be the GOAT, no way Spurs are gonna win anytime soon, Pop's on the verge of retirement and so is Manu. Tony is on his last legs and I don't really care for him, so who gives a shit at this point for what we get for Kawhi, he's a lost cause financially and from a players standpoint, just give him to the Lakers and hopefully Demarcus Cousins also signs with the Lakers so Lebron can win like 3 or 4 more rings and be considered the Goat.

In other words your down with being a cuck.

[baseline bum]

why do you keep bringing up deng?

the spurs are the one giving up the star, they're not going to be the one's taking on the albatross contracts here.

it would be randle if anything


The Spurs are never taking the Deng contract. Randle, depends on the contract but he's not awful. He could definitely be moved as well. I bet a 3rd team to take him would be easy as fuck to find.

If they can get Randle to sign for Gasol money then they probably have to do it. If Randle is going to cost Aldridge money I'd rather get nothing.

[Spurs da champs]

Lol at the idiots fine with letting Kawhi walk away for nothing.

[duncan2150]

Lol at the idiots fine with giving Kawhi away.

nobody is fine with that but it's better to have something than having nothing.

[MannyIsGod]

Lol at the idiots fine with giving Kawhi away.

No one is fine with it. If someone has to get an amputation, they aren't "fine" with it. Its just what you have to do in a shitty situation.

No one wants to fucking do it but there's no other realistic choice.

[E20]

In other words your down with being a cuck.

Give me cock lock and direct me to the nearest BBC

[SuperCam]

this was over when Maginka showed they would be more than happy to hand out only 1 year deals this season, probably with lebron's blessing, tbh. at that point Phila drew a line in the sand at their covington/saric offer as their final offer. PATFO obviously views Ingram as significantly better than that, and they realize that's as good as they will get.

should have made a deal when the 10th pick and fultz were on the table tbh, or jaylen brown.

[r0drig0lac]

At this point, I just want to see Lebron team up with Kawhi and be the GOAT, no way Spurs are gonna win anytime soon, Pop's on the verge of retirement and so is Manu. Tony is on his last legs and I don't really care for him, so who gives a shit at this point for what we get for Kawhi, he's a lost cause financially and from a players standpoint, just give him to the Lakers and hopefully Demarcus Cousins also signs with the Lakers so Lebron can win like 3 or 4 more rings and be considered the Goat.

please.... http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif

[Spurs da champs]

No one is fine with it. If someone has to get an amputation, they aren't "fine" with it. Its just what you have to do in a shitty situation.

No one wants to fucking do it but there's no other realistic choice.
I'm actually in agreement with you, I just left out keywords in my post.

[baseline bum]

But does anyone think Randle is going to come cheaply? Do you think he really wants to leave LeBron and LA to come to San Antonio to play on a team whose only star plays his position? He would be in a really strong negotiating position IMO.

[Ice009]

The godfather offer is coming. Deng + Ball (no draft picks) for Kawhi + Dejounte.

Spurs look like they're going to get fleeced.

[NASpurs]

Today's the summer league game right? And they usually interview a member of PATFO? I'm interested to hear what they (probably RC) have to say.

[SpursDynasty85]

But does anyone think Randle is going to come cheaply? Do you think he really wants to leave LeBron and LA to come to San Antonio to play on a team whose only star plays his position? He would be in a really strong negotiating position IMO.

Lakers probably are hesitant to sign him to a long term deal anyway.m since they want cap room next year.

[Spurs da champs]

No one is fine with it. If someone has to get an amputation, they aren't "fine" with it. Its just what you have to do in a shitty situation.


No one wants to fucking do it but there's no other realistic choice.
nobody is fine with that but it's better to have something than having nothing.

I'm actually in agreement with you, I just left out keywords in my post.

[MannyIsGod]

So move him to a 3rd team. Who fucking cares. You think the Lakers are going to let that stop them from getting Kawhi? In on universe are the Spurs taking back Deng's deal. I'm honestly not even sure the Lakers need to include either in the deal of if they can make enough space. I know that shit isn't going to hold up a trade although I would not mine getting Randle unless its too expensive.

[BD24]

nobody is fine with that but it's better to have something than having nothing.
This, 100% this. Quit being fucking bitter people. There is no package we are getting for Kawhi that makes us competitive within the next 3-5 years. Might as well take the best package that sets us up for the future even if it is from the fucking Lakers. If we don't trade Kawhi he sits out next year, goes to the Lakers, and we get nothing.

[BatManu20]

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[duncan2150]

But does anyone think Randle is going to come cheaply? Do you think he really wants to leave LeBron and LA to come to San Antonio to play on a team whose only star plays his position? He would be in a really strong negotiating position IMO.

I agree with you, he will get a good maybe huge contract but for me he's the best talented player we could get. If it's too mouch i'll pass but he could be very interesting for us.

[daslicer]

Lol at the idiots fine with letting Kawhi walk away for nothing.

Most people are mentally weak and can be broken. I think a lot of people have been broken by all this drama and want it to end in the worst way which is what the media and Lakers want so the spurs cave in. Personally for me I'm fine with the drama. If the Spurs hold their ground the media will eventually crumble. The key is for the Spurs not to cave in even if it's certain Kawhi will walk in FA. You can't let him off the hook that easy for all the shit he has pulled.

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[ducks]

move randle to gs for thomas and young picks they have
fuck the nba

[MoSpur02]

The Lakers have renounced Julius Randle.

[Ron Swanson]

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[NASpurs]

We're not even getting Randle at this point :lol

[marinoman]

Is tyreke Evans gonna take another 1 year deal with the lakers?

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[SuperCam]

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first step in the incoming ingram/kiwi trade. Kiwi will be gone from the Spur by midnight tonight tbh

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[duncan2150]

they will let randle free ? still possible to do a S and T right ?

[Spurs9]

We're not even getting Randle at this point :lol

:cry

[MoSpur02]

I see them going after Boogie. LeBron is a fan of his.

[baseline bum]

So move him to a 3rd team. Who fucking cares. You think the Lakers are going to let that stop them from getting Kawhi? In on universe are the Spurs taking back Deng's deal. I'm honestly not even sure the Lakers need to include either in the deal of if they can make enough space. I know that shit isn't going to hold up a trade although I would not mine getting Randle unless its too expensive.

Well, now the only way the Spurs land Ingram is to take Deng or find someone else to take Deng with Randle renounced.

[ducks]

hope it is a 4 year deal for cousins

[Clipper Nation]

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:lol Yes, please blow the rest of your cap space on Cousins, Magic.

[NASpurs]

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[K...]

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Now why would cousins take a one year deal after major illness? Here's free to do so, andi think players may try to wait or this poor market and take one year deals, but boogie is a near Max player

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[NASpurs]

Bye bye Ball :lol

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[MoSpur02]

Rajon Rondo is going to the Lakers too.

[Ron Swanson]

Rondo? :lmao

[duncan2150]

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Can someone explain this pls ?

[raybies]

Lmao Lonzo

[spurschamps99030507]

Rondo vs 3pts gsw :lol

[Spurs da champs]

Most people are mentally weak and can be broken. I think a lot of people have been broken by all this drama and want it to end in the worst way which is what the media and Lakers want so the spurs cave in. Personally for me I'm fine with the drama. If the Spurs hold their ground the media will eventually crumble. The key is for the Spurs not to cave in even if it's certain Kawhi will walk in FA. You can't let him off the hook that easy for all the shit he has pulled.
Kawhi has Spurs screwed he's gonna go to Lakers no matter what. And Ingram with Randle till now (easily better than Saric & Covington and an unknown 2021 draft pick) was the best the Spurs could hope for maybe aside from Clippers draft day offer. LeBrons contract means Lakers will win this war of attrition & Spurs will be left with nothing unless Kiwi changes his mind.

[slick'81]

It seemingly gets worse every hour that passes for the spurs :lol

[NASpurs]

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[rjv]

looks like rondo joined the circus. per Woj, he signed with the lakers.

[ducks]

LOL NO PARKER FOR YOU

[HarlemHeat37]

Acquiring Rondo might be related to getting Cousins, they're close IIRC..

Probably going to see some moves, though..Lonzo, Rondo, Stephenson and LeBron all together?

[ducks]

looks like rondo joined the circus. per Woj, he signed with the lakers.
that team is high drama

[rjv]

i don't see how the lakers are getting leonard this year, after all. UNLESS they do wind up shipping some players.

[NASpurs]

Lebron about to play with a bunch of dudes who can't shoot for shit :lol

[Clipper Nation]

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$9 million for Rondo is just cringeworthy.

[Big Empty]

Thats good. Roll with Kawhi one more year. Pops last season and encore coaching performance. After this season Kawhi walks and we trade LA for a future 1st rounder to a contending team that was an Aldridge short of greatness.

[MoSpur02]

How many PGs is that for L.A? Ball, Rondo, and who else?

[spurraider21]

pelinka swinging his dick around with these 1 year contracts. spurs are boxed into a corner tbh

[NASpurs]

What a weird fucking team

[RD2191]

Kawhi for Deng who says no? :lmao

[spurraider21]

Kawhi for Deng who says no? :lmao
only if they throw in a top 55 protected 2nd

[daslicer]

Kawhi has Spurs screwed he's gonna go to Lakers no matter what. And Ingram with Randle till now (easily better than Saric & Covington and an unknown 2021 draft pick) was the best the Spurs could hope for maybe aside from Clippers draft day offer. LeBrons contract means Lakers will win this war of attrition & Spurs will be left with nothing unless Kiwi changes his mind.

Spurs were going to lose out in any situation. There is no equal value for a superstar of Kawhi's caliber. Ingram,Randle and whatever crap the Lakers were offering would have gotten the Spurs .25 cents on the dollar at best. Spurs are just better off dicking Kawhi over for a year and not rewarding his antics.

[RD2191]

pelinka swinging his dick around with these 1 year contracts. spurs are boxed into a corner tbh

Run if magic starts swinging his dick tbh

[baseline bum]

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Counting the deals for KCP, McGee, and Stephenson puts them at about $13.5 million in capspace assuming they only want to trade Ingram, which is a little less than $3 million short of what they'd need to trade for Kawhi. Problem is if the Spurs take back their young guys making $1.5 to $1.7 million a year each the Lakers get hit with am $840k cap hold for each one, meaning each young player they trade only nets them $660k to $860k in cap space.

A Kawhi deal was much more in play with Randle on the books since LA could use their Bird Rights to sign Randle and trade him for Leonard. That alone would have easily made matching salary (eg 1/1.25 of Leonard's money).

[spurraider21]

Run if magic starts swinging his dick tbh
:lmao

[ducks]

the ones verbally agreeing can not be traded for 3 months right?

[housious]

Run if magic starts swinging his dick tbh

Quality

[Marcus Bryant]

Thats good. Roll with Kawhi one more year. Pops last season and encore coaching performance. After this season Kawhi walks and we trade LA for a future 1st rounder to a contending team that was an Aldridge short of greatness.

Up to Pop if he wants to provide daily updates to Kawhi's family on how awesome they are.

[marinoman]

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What kind of team are they building? Im not kidding live on tv they told this windhorst and he kept facepalming and disgusted

[BatManu20]

exactly this. dude is a 6'9-6'10 wing with great potential on both sides of the ball. hed excel with Spurs.


Ingram is 6'11. Reportedly grew 2 inches last yr.

[weebo]

pelinka swinging his dick around with these 1 year contracts. spurs are boxed into a corner tbh

Why? Spurs were never trading Leonard to the lackers.

[spurraider21]

Ingram is 6'11. Reportedly grew 2 inches last yr.
Danny grew 2 inches during his career too. its why we call him LDN

[Ocotillo]

Hmmm, could this end up like the year the Lakers brought in Payton and and Karl Malone in 2004?

[spurraider21]

Why? Spurs were never trading Leonard to the lackers.
they're sending the clear message that they're preserving a max slot for next offseason

[Chillen]

At this point might as well keep Kawhi till the NBA trade deadline. He is at least is capable of guarding that LeBron guy, lol.

Pop is so stubborn. Lakers probably have Ingram off the table now since they signed LeBron, I could see him working well with LeBron and crew.

[spurraider21]

Hmmm, could this end up like the year the Lakers brought in Payton and and Karl Malone in 2004?
yeah except instead of washed up malone and payton they got lebron james coming off a monster season/postseason

[MoSpur02]

So they have 3 PGs right? Thomas, Ball, and Rondo?

[baseline bum]

Danny grew 2 inches during his career too. its why we call him LDN

:lmao

[Spurs da champs]

Ingram is 6'11. Reportedly grew 2 inches last yr.
Pop will make him a star.

[NASpurs]

Run if magic starts swinging his dick tbh

It's like someone running towards you with a used syringe they found under a bridge.

[marinoman]

the ones verbally agreeing can not be traded for 3 months right?
I thought it was 30 days? Not sure

[K...]

pelinka swinging his dick around with these 1 year contracts. spurs are boxed into a corner tbh

If they play with these guys, Lance, boogie, rondo, how do their young players keep value? Then next year, kathi comes, and what? Does cousins have some wink deal to take one year and then resign with scraps? I could see kathi be convinced to go to a better constructed team.

Plus if you love Parker acting surly wait till he meets rondo lol

[spurschamps99030507]

mcgee, lance, rondo, ..... 3 points contest 2019.... :lol

[weebo]

they're sending the clear message that they're preserving a max slot for next offseason

and that worked out so well for the lackers already (PG)

[baseline bum]

Pop will make him a star.

The chance to do a Lakers trade is dead. Apparently Randle doesn't like SA or RC doesn't like Randle. Probably both.

[rascal]

this was over when Maginka showed they would be more than happy to hand out only 1 year deals this season, probably with lebron's blessing, tbh. at that point Phila drew a line in the sand at their covington/saric offer as their final offer. PATFO obviously views Ingram as significantly better than that, and they realize that's as good as they will get.

should have made a deal when the 10th pick and fultz were on the table tbh, or jaylen brown.

Exactly Had the Spurs been more committed to really making a trade on draft night then they could have gotten more from Phil including the 10th pick that Phil was all right trading. Spurs needed to have beaten Phoenix to the table with an offer but they should have had things worked out days before the draft with Phil. they didn't make a trade because they didn't want a trade not because they couldn't make a trade they liked.

The Spurs were still not convinced they wanted to trade Leonard and that is why there was no trade.

[marinoman]

So they have 3 PGs right? Thomas, Ball, and Rondo?
No Thomas

[Ocotillo]

Won't happen but if Leonard ends up playing for the Spurs this year waiting to sign with LA at the end of his contract, play that SOB 48 minutes a game, none of that Pop resting guys stuff......

[spurraider21]

If they play with these guys, Lance, boogie, rondo, how do their young players keep value? Then next year, kathi comes, and what? Does cousins have some wink deal to take one year and then resign with scraps? I could see kathi be convinced to go to a better constructed team.

Plus if you love Parker acting surly wait till he meets rondo lol
who cares about the young players' value?

they'll be able to outright sign kawhi and let rondo/stephenson/KCP walk.

you'll have ball/kawhi/ingram/lebron as starters and still have kuzma/hart off the bench. and now ring chasing veterans get the added benefit of playing in fucking LA instead of a shithole like cleveland

[NASpurs]

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[Spurs da champs]

The chance to do a Lakers trade is dead. Apparently Randle doesn't like SA or RC doesn't like Randle. Probably both.

RIP

[007nites]

Rondo to LA. What is going on??

[ducks]

watch cousins sign for 5.6

[Dverde]

it’s like the Laker’s are using fantasy basketball stats from 2012 to fill out there roster.

[rjv]

so was the meeting with randle today to ask him if he would agree to a sign and trade to SA? or did it fall apart before they met with randle because the spurs told LA no thanks? or, did rondo become a possibility and this then led to renouncing randle?

[duncan2150]

Counting the deals for KCP, McGee, and Stephenson puts them at about $13.5 million in capspace assuming they only want to trade Ingram, which is a little less than $3 million short of what they'd need to trade for Kawhi. Problem is if the Spurs take back their young guys making $1.5 to $1.7 million a year each the Lakers get hit with am $840k cap hold for each one, meaning each young player they trade only nets them $660k to $860k in cap space.

A Kawhi deal was much more in play with Randle on the books since LA could use their Bird Rights to sign Randle and trade him for Leonard. That alone would have easily made matching salary (eg 1/1.25 of Leonard's money).

Perfect

they still could sign and trade randle to us. The only possibility to match salaries ?

[slick'81]

Exactly Had the Spurs been more committed to really making a trade on draft night then they could have gotten more from Phil including the 10th pick that Phil was all right trading. Spurs needed to have beaten Phoenix to the table with an offer but they should have had things worked out days before the draft with Phil. they didn't make a trade because they didn't want a trade not because they couldn't make a trade they liked.

The Spurs were still not convinced they wanted to trade Leonard and that is why there was no trade.

damn it looks like spurs are set to ride this disaster out through next season and are letting leonard walk

[Ocotillo]

1013898292617515008 Cousins taking the post-injury discount out of the goodness of his heart?

[spurraider21]

and that worked out so well for the lackers already (PG)
PG's relationship with OKC all things considered was neutral prior to the season. he presumably wanted to go to LA and ultimately fell in love with OKC/Westbrook.

thats very different than kawhi who apparently isn't even on speaking terms with the club. and PG wasn't the lakers primary goal this summer, they didnt roll out the red carpet for him. it became all about lebron/kawhi with PG being the afterthought

[Brazil]

It's over son. We're considering taking a bat to his knees. Tbh.

:lol

[Dex]

So Lebron left Hill, Love, Smith, Clarkson, and Hood for Rondo, Lance, Ball, Ingram, and McGee?

He somehow has managed to put together a team that is more dysfunctional than the Cavs were last year.

[Mugen]

:lol If the Spurs actually take Deng back in deal, please tell me why any of you would still support this team.

[NASpurs]

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[rascal]

So they have 3 PGs right? Thomas, Ball, and Rondo?

Ball is going out in a trade. Spurs need to get another team in a 3 way deal to get better assets.

[baseline bum]

who cares about the young players' value?

they'll be able to outright sign kawhi and let rondo/stephenson/KCP walk.

you'll have ball/kawhi/ingram/lebron as starters and still have kuzma/hart off the bench. and now ring chasing veterans get the added benefit of playing in fucking LA instead of a shithole like cleveland

They should be able to easily keep Rondo and still have max capspace for Leonard next summer. They can probably keep Stephenson too.

[NASpurs]

:lol If the Spurs actually take Deng back in deal, please tell me why any of you would still support this team.

Fuck that, I'll bail and check back in five years.

[TD 21]

:lmao At people pining for Randle, this generation's Lee. Many of his advanced stats look nice (though they were aided by his contract drive), but he's an archaic type, the likes of which would be an awkward fit on a winning team.


If Aldridge is in for the long haul, he wouldn't really fit alongside him either, which means his role would be limited anyway.

Don't get why the Lakers are loading up on sub par range shooting play makers (Ball, Stephenson, Rondo), but if Rondo is a prelude to signing Cousins, then that'll be a prelude to speeding up Davis' seemingly inevitable trade to the Celtics.

[ducks]

damn it looks like spurs are set to ride this disaster out through next season and are letting leonard walk

lakers would offer more if they gel and think leonard would be the piece to get them by finals
also would prove he was healthy

[spurraider21]

:lol If the Spurs actually take Deng back in deal, please tell me why any of you would still support this team.
it would mean that RC fell off the wagon and he'd need our support more than ever

[rjv]

woj continuing to do his thing while jabari young sends out tweets about the world cup...

[Marcus Bryant]

Given the offers better to roll with no trade if Pop and RC are up to it.

[spurraider21]

:lmao
At people pining for Randle, this generation's Lee. Many of his advanced stats look nice (though they were aided by his contract drive), but he's an archaic type,, the likes of which would be an awkward fit on a winning team.

If Aldridge is in for the long haul, he wouldn't really fit alongside him, which means his role would be limited anyway.

Don't get why the Lakers are loading up on sub par range shooting play makers (Ball, Stephenson, Rondo), but if Rondo is a prelude to signing Cousins, then that'll be a prelude to speeding up Davis' inevitable exit.
i dont think he'd be a great fit for the spurs, necessarily... but at some point you just want to have your talent level above a certain line :lol

[baseline bum]

Perfect

they still could sign and trade randle to us. The only possibility to match salaries ?

No they cannot. They do not have Bird Rights for Randle any more after renouncing him. The Lakers have no way sign him and hence no way to sign and trade him.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lmao At people pining for Randle, this generation's Lee. Many of his advanced stats look nice (though they were aided by his contract drive), but he's an archaic type, the likes of which would be an awkward fit on a winning team.


If Aldridge is in for the long haul, he wouldn't really fit alongside him either, which means his role would be limited anyway.

Don't get why the Lakers are loading up on sub par range shooting play makers (Ball, Stephenson, Rondo), but if Rondo is a prelude to signing Cousins, then that'll be a prelude to speeding up Davis' seemingly inevitable trade to the Celtics.

Feels like Ball might be getting moved IMO..

[RsxPiimp]

i feel like lonzo’s gone. u dont bring rondo, lebron and lance and develop ball.


nice knowing u lonzo :lol

[duncan2150]

No they cannot. They do not have Bird Rights for Randle any more after renouncing him. The Lakers have no way sign him and hence no way to sign and trade him.

ok ;)

[NASpurs]

i feel like lonzo’s gone. u dont bring rondo, lebron and lance and develop ball.


nice knowing u lonzo :lol

Which makes Lonzo's tweet and fake injury even funnier.

[sasaint]

damn it looks like spurs are set to ride this disaster out through next season and are letting leonard walk

I just can't see it. That would be a disaster in the locker room and in ticket sales.

[Spurs da champs]

So does signing Rondo increase chances of Lonzo being turned into a lottery pick & or JJ?

[Marcus Bryant]

damn it looks like spurs are set to ride this disaster out through next season and are letting leonard walk

You don't quit, take money and then expect to force a trade to where you want to go for nothing.

[HarlemHeat37]

Damn, feels like Pop and them are going to cave in very soon..I wonder how much influence Silver and Disney had on the Holts/ownership..

[Budkin]

:lol If the Spurs actually take Deng back in deal, please tell me why any of you would still support this team.

I won't. If that shit happens I'm done for a LONG time.

[Clipper Nation]

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That probably means Lonzo's not getting traded.

[bklynspursfan]

Exactly Had the Spurs been more committed to really making a trade on draft night then they could have gotten more from Phil including the 10th pick that Phil was all right trading. Spurs needed to have beaten Phoenix to the table with an offer but they should have had things worked out days before the draft with Phil. they didn't make a trade because they didn't want a trade not because they couldn't make a trade they liked.

The Spurs were still not convinced they wanted to trade Leonard and that is why there was no trade.

The Spurs were not convinced they wanted to lose a top 5 player, yes. Had they not tried to make things right we'd be up in arms about it.

Let's not forget Pop was dealing with the loss of his wife either . It's possible it took a little longer to make moves as he was grieving.

[Marcus Bryant]

I just can't see it. That would be a disaster in the locker room and in ticket sales.

Oh he'll be moved, just out of the conference later this summer.

[Budkin]

I just can't see it. That would be a disaster in the locker room and in ticket sales.

What else is there to look forward to? I for one would love to see it happen just for the spectacle alone.

[spurraider21]

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That probably means Lonzo's not getting traded.
:lmao... believing this shit about lebron liking guys

you thought miami drafting shabazz fuckin napier meant lebron was staying for sure

[weebo]

PG's relationship with OKC all things considered was neutral prior to the season. he presumably wanted to go to LA and ultimately fell in love with OKC/Westbrook.

thats very different than kawhi who apparently isn't even on speaking terms with the club. and PG wasn't the lakers primary goal this summer, they didnt roll out the red carpet for him. it became all about lebron/kawhi with PG being the afterthought

PG was a done deal...why put much effort into signing a guy who said he was going there in the first place...besides who cares what Leonard wants to do with his free agency....the lakers weren't getting him....he's getting traded east so whatever happens after...if youre the Spurs Leonard's free agency is not your business anymore

[raybies]

The way it’s looking is that Magic only gonna give Kuz and Ingram with Deng...

[ducks]

The Spurs were not convinced they wanted to lose a top 5 player, yes. Had they not tried to make things right we'd be up in arms about it.

Let's not forget Pop was dealing with the loss of his wife either . It's possible it took a little longer to make moves as he was grieving.

then he should have resigned quite usually as a coup out
HE CAN RETIRE

[spurraider21]

PG was a done deal...why put much effort into signing a guy who said he was going there in the first place...besides who cares what Leonard wants to do with his free agency....the lakers weren't getting him....he's getting traded east so whatever happens after...if youre the Spurs Leonard's free agency is not your business anymore
yeah your franchise player's free agency is none of your business

[MoSpur02]

Maybe a 3 way team trade coming. I don't see the Spurs taking on Ball

[Spurs da champs]

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That probably means Lonzo's not getting traded.
Signing Rondo for 9 million just to lure a injured Boogie seems a bit redudnant if they're not trading Lonzo...

[spurraider21]

The way it’s looking is that Magic only gonna give Kuz and Ingram with Deng...
they better throw in 3 more first round picks just for having us take on deng :lol

[ducks]

Maybe a 3 way team trade coming. I don't see the Spurs taking on Ball

ball to new orleans?

[Clipper Nation]

Signing Rondo for 9 million just to lure a injured Boogie seems a bit redudnant if they're not trading Lonzo...

Magic is their GM.

[spurraider21]

Kawhi has been traded.

Confirmed. Casuals should hear the news soon
how soon brah? this was 3 days ago

[apalisoc_9]

Clippers.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Maybe a 3 way team trade coming. I don't see the Spurs taking on Ball

Spurs could benefit from bringing in another team to the trade table.

[TD 21]

i dont think he'd be a great fit for the spurs, necessarily... but at some point you just want to have your talent level above a certain line

:lol


I don't want to get on the treadmill of mediocrity, which is what a Ingram, Randle, picks package would mean.

That's partially why I prefer Fultz: a boom or bust type and if it's the latter, then they'll pick high enough to get decent odds to draft a star.



Feels like Ball might be getting moved IMO..

Maybe, because Kuzma is supposedly unavailable and Ingram and picks more than likely isn't going to get it done. Ball for Isaac or Jackson, with whichever going to the Spurs.

Also, a Rondo-Stephenson backup back court makes no sense.

[Play Boban]

:cry

[raybies]

:hungry: Do it RC! Trade Kawhi for Ingram, Kuz, and Deng!! After this place gets nuked we can build it back up with glory!

[Spurs da champs]

Clippers.

:lmao

[spurraider21]

Clippers.

Done.
you just throwing shit on the wall every couple days, bra?

[moisaenz]

Did Eric cisneros disappear?

[exstatic]

Damn, feels like Pop and them are going to cave in very soon..I wonder how much influence Silver and Disney had on the Holts/ownership..

Are you nuts? They had a chance at Randle and said 'no', but you think they're going to take the corpse of Deng and his two remaining horrendous years? If Philly's offer is Saric, Cov and that pick, i tell Magic to go fuck himself.

[Dex]

Coincidentally, I will be flying out tonight and visiting family in Phoenix this week.

Last time I went to Phoenix, news broke of the Jefferson / Jax trade. I'm hoping history doesn't repeat itself If it does, I'm sorry in advance because I am not expecting near as much excitement.

[Spur|n|Austin]

How the hell is Deng on such a terrible contract? Why did the Lakers think that was a good idea :lol

[baseline bum]

Fuck that, I'll bail and check back in five years.

You'd follow the Seattle Spurs?

[marinoman]

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[Mugen]

I mean if there's a way to derail getting Kawhi and LeBron, signing Rondo, Javele, and Lance is definitely one way to do it :lol

[spurraider21]

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yeah if he takes 5.5 mil? :lol

[exstatic]

How the hell is Deng on such a terrible contract? Why did the Lakers think that was a good idea :lol

Jim "short" Buss.

[Dverde]

They are about to unload Deng and some of their young guys to get boogie.

[007nites]

yeah if he takes 5.5 mil? :lol

get rid of Deng and a few others and it's possible

[exstatic]

They are about to unload Deng and some of their young guys to get boogie.

Boogie ain't coming on a S&T for one fucking year.

[BSfromTX]

How the hell is Deng on such a terrible contract? Why did the Lakers think that was a good idea :lol

probably took advice from half this forum. People in here love to throw money around as if there won’t be any consequence

[marinoman]

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[rjv]

even if leonard goes to LA, that is one weird roster they would wind up with (at least for this season).

[baseline bum]

they better throw in 3 more first round picks just for having us take on deng :lol

Three picks at #28-30 isn't enough to take that piece of shit.

[tbdog]

So, the plan is to get him to come to training camp, see if he looks healthy, and if he does, offer the Supermax? When does training camp open? How long before October 16?


Usually a month. Might be shorter these days, maybe 3 weeks. Then you have media day. Cameras will be on him. Cannot be avoided. Will get him alone away from his uncle.

[baseline bum]

yeah if he takes 5.5 mil? :lol

No shit, Aldridge is a slow motherfucker.

[MoSpur02]

Would Kawhi want to play on a team with Stephenson, McGee, Rondo, Kuzma who seems like a douche, and as of right now Ball?

[Spurs da champs]

Lakers team is full of so many personalities that are destined to clash. Please add Cousins.:lol

[TXstbobcat]

Rondo to LA. What is going on??

LA signing Rhondo and other free agents to 1 year deals so there will be cap space for Leonard next season. They don’t have trade for him and just sign him next season.

[spurraider21]

get rid of Deng and a few others and it's possible
yeah i'm sure teams are foaming at the mouth to take Deng's 2/36 remaining for some draft picks in the late 20's :lol

[NASpurs]

Would Kawhi want to play on a team with Stephenson, McGee, Rondo, Kuzma who seems like a douche, and as of right now Ball?

Kawhi looks like he doesn't even know what's going on half of the time, so I would say yes to your question.

[Dex]

Lakers team is full of so many personalities that are destined to clash. Please add Cousins.:lol

As much as I would hate to see the Lakers get Boog's talent...that would be a hilarious implosion to witness.

[duncan2150]

LA signing Rhondo and other free agents to 1 year deals so there will be cap space for Leonard next season. They don’t have trade for him and just sign him next season.

but they want to win, they will not win next year with this roster plus kawhi to LA in 2019 is not a sure thing a la Paul George...

[spurraider21]

As much as I would hate to see the Lakers get Boog's talent...that would be a hilarious implosion to witness.
would be D12 levels of fun tbh

[TXstbobcat]

it would mean that RC fell off the wagon and he'd need our support more than ever

:rollin

[Marcus Bryant]

Three picks at #28-30 isn't enough to take that piece of shit.

Right. Still no offer that appealing dating back to the draft. Making a move this second is just negotiating against yourself. Wait for free agency to play out and another team willing to take a shot at Leonard will emerge. Philly + Leonard puts them in a good spot to win the East.

[Mugen]

Honestly, bring Dwight back for the remaining. WGAF at this point, i'd actually watch that shit :lmao

[rascal]

Lakers team is full of so many personalities that are destined to clash. Please add Cousins.:lol

Stop it. That is what I always hear when teams are acquiring talent.
The Lakers will be fine.

[Keepin' it real]

In other words your down with being a cuck.


Give me cock lock and direct me to the nearest BBC

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[SAGirl]

Curious to see what comes out once this is done

http://i68.tinypic.com/2ngg03n.png

Thread here-

https://twitter.com/mikecwright/status/1013852718765674496
Have no "sauce" for anything, but it sounds to me like they were instead wanting to shut him down for the season and Kiwi didn't want to... remember how he announced a comeback, giving his only interview this year (2018).

[Dverde]

It’s like a team of Lebron’s enemies. They going to talk KG out of retirement

[TXstbobcat]

but they want to win, they will not win next year with this roster plus kawhi to LA in 2019 is not a sure thing a la Paul George...

I am guessing that LA is willing to gamble that they will get Leonard and if they don’t they can take a shot on another free agent that Lebron recruits to LA.

[ducks]

Stop it. That is what I always hear when teams are acquiring talent.
The Lakers will be fine.

yeah irving demanded out with james