Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[lmbebo]

They don't need to get Fultz if they're not sold on him. Can they trade for Zhaire Smith, or do they have to wait for that to occur?

i think Smith is a 30 day wait if he's been signed.

[Spurs da champs]

They don't need to get Fultz if they're not sold on him. Can they trade for Zhaire Smith, or do they have to wait for that to occur?
It's a logjam at guard, with either one, but could they flip Fultz into a pick? Like what was supposed to happen with Lonzo Ball?

[lmbebo]

It's a logjam at guard, with either one, but could they flip Fultz into a pick? Like what was supposed to happen with Lonzo Ball?

Guess depends on who goes out with Kawhi. I think most assume patty. Either way, its all a big mystery.

[AFBlue]

It's a logjam at guard, with either one, but could they flip Fultz into a pick? Like what was supposed to happen with Lonzo Ball?

I think Smith could play either guard or forward in today's small ball NBA. If we trade Kawhi, I expect Danny Green to start at the 3, and Smith has a similar physical profile.

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Spurs 35%
Philly 25%
Clippers 15%
Celtics 5%
Other 10%

I think it adds up to 100 .... who knows. I think its really Spurs or Philly for his services next year.

Still got 10% left to mess around with.

[AFBlue]

i think Smith is a 30 day wait if he's been signed.

Thanks

[AFBlue]

I could see that. Not sold on Fultz though and suspect he's the center of the package if its going to happen.

I don't know if he's worth being the "centerpiece" of a deal. Saric, Smith, and picks won't likely ever be Top-25 players in the league, but that's quality depth.

[lmbebo]

Still got 10% left to mess around with.

10% looney asylum ....

[NASpurs]

With Kawhi's group using Parker as a scapegoat of sorts, does it say a lot one way or another if Parker signs with another team or re-signs with the Spurs?

[Dverde]

I am waiting on the blue checkmark tweet to confirm Kawhi hasn’t been traded. “I can only confirm he hasn’t been traded”

[spurs1990]

All Leonard jerseys are half priced off
https://www.lids.com/nba/san-antonio-spurs

the separation is happening

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10% looney asylum ....

He's already in Hotel California, iyam. Well, or his representation is at least.

[raybies]

I think Smith could play either guard or forward in today's small ball NBA. If we trade Kawhi, I expect Danny Green to start at the 3, and Smith has a similar physical profile.
Smith is 6’ 3”

[LkrFan]

Lavar Ball screwed the Lakers, almost as bad as uncle Dennis. :lmao

Yawn. :wakeup

[MoSpur02]

Probably and Holt the Woman.

This

[Spurs da champs]

I think Smith could play either guard or forward in today's small ball NBA. If we trade Kawhi, I expect Danny Green to start at the 3, and Smith has a similar physical profile.
The bigs maybe smaller but the wings arent. Still Tony Allen was small & able to defend the likes of KD well, Zhaire is a much better athlete so I'd welcome it. I think Fultz is mentally broken, I don't want any part of that bust.

[daslicer]

With Kawhi's group using Parker as a scapegoat of sorts, does it say a lot one way or another if Parker signs with another team or re-signs with the Spurs?

Cris Carter who is Kawhi's group's mouth piece actually said the other day that it wasn't Parker's comments that was the final straw for Kawhi wanting to leave the Spurs. Basically Cris is signalling that the group realizes that they can't use Parker as a scapegoat anymore since it's probably known by them that there is a high chance Parker won't be back next year.

[BillMc]

With Kawhi's group using Parker as a scapegoat of sorts, does it say a lot one way or another if Parker signs with another team or re-signs with the Spurs?

Double-agent Tony should sign with the Lakers just to prevent Kawhi going there. I'd mean he'd probably get to bed Jeanie, so there are perks.

In all seriousness, the outrage by Kawhi and his camp over TP's remark (which isn't even that bad if you actually watch the interview) is ridiculous. It's Tony's opinion. You're going to give up 80 mill and play the victim over that? Either its manufactured (bingo) or your ego is clouding your judgement (possibly bingo).

[Spurs da champs]

Yawn. :wakeup

Y'all probably would Kiwi by now if not for fake injury, & Spurs would have best young prospect offered in any trade in Ingram plus a potential lottery pick via Lonzo trade. rip.

[marinoman]

So what team now is his most desired landing spot, philly, clippers?

[MoSpur02]

I don't like Philly's package at all. Fultz seems like damaged goods. He basically hasn't even played. People are going off his days in college. Sairic is a very good role player and that's gonna be about it. There is no higher ceiling for him IMO. Covington is overpaid in my opinion.

Boston has the best assets, but unfortunately don't wanna give them up because of Kawhi stating he wants to play in L.A. and because of his health.

I would hate the Spurs to trade him to the Lakers, but I'd rather trade him there over Philly if they are willing to include Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, and a pick. They probably won't though, which might turn out to be a bad move on their part.

[Baam]

Fultz is a lottery ticket to getting a top 10 nba player. If he fixes quickly his shot then he has absolutely everything offensively. If he doesn't he can still be TP instead of Harden.

How long did it take for TP to become a competent 3pt shooter? You guys believe Fultz is done after one bad year? Fultz got benched for TJ McConnell ok (Ben Simmons too in the end lul) guess what young TP also got benched for a scrub in the POs.

Pop designed his whole offense around a scoring PG for the longest time, tell me he doesn't want to get his hand on Fultz, one of the best PnR players to come out of college in a while, and I won't believe you. That's also why I think Pop would have been fine with a Kyrie package but obviously Boston is out of the picture now.

I think only Ingram has comparable upside.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I wonder if Pop and RC need to get a Holt's approval to trade Kawhi. And, if so, which one?

I think they’ll need his approval to offer the supermax, not sure about a trade.

[KDKSpurs24]

It's a logjam at guard, with either one, but could they flip Fultz into a pick? Like what was supposed to happen with Lonzo Ball?
But everybody loves the idea of a pick until a name is attached to it. I say keep Fultz because there is a strong possibility that he will be better than whoever is drafted with the pick. The draft is never a sure thing. For example, some people were talking about getting the Cavs #8 pick in the past but now that Colin Sexton’s name is attached to it then it seems less desirable (even though I think he’s gonna be a really good player). But yeah get Fultz and his confidence back and plug him in at the 2 with his good friend Murray and I see tons of potential.

[FireMicoHalili]

Largely seems like Woj is doing the posturing for a handful of teams. He seems so eager for the Spurs to trade but only for so little.

[K...]

It's a done deal, pop is holding it up because each upcoming player had to pass a history test (civil rights and slavery) with 320 multiple choice questions and a 6 page essay. Pop is hand scoring these and composing lengthy rebuttals to the essays which will probably demand another essay from the player.

[Spurs da champs]

It's a done deal, pop is holding it up because each upcoming player had to pass a history test (civil rights and slavery) with 320 multiple choice questions and a 6 page essay. Pop is hand scoring these and composing lengthy rebuttals to the essays which will probably demand another essay from the player.

:lmao

[sasaint]

RC and Pop are going to win..... the fakers have no better roster than the cavs last year, the gsw are going to win the title, all the pressure on fakers, rondo, lance, mcGee are not better than tristan thompson, love or hill the w conference is much more difficult than the east


What I think
Pop and RC are going to say, "you see now that the fakers do not want you, you're going to lose 80 mill but they prefer ingram and kuzma two lower level players to make a trade for you"


if they wanted you they would do the trade and you could sign for 188 million instead of 139mill, ask paul george how much the fakers wanted, nothing like you "


"The fact that they want you for free the next season costs you 49 million of your $$$ kiwi"


"kuzma & ingram will keep your money" "we are in a position of weakness (spurs) and they consider that you are less than kuzma and ingram"


"we accept to trade to the fakers, you think that ingram and kuzma, both, are as good as you? you are one of the best three players in the league but the fakers did not press the button, if they wanted you they would have given us both players we asked for, who by the way have not shown anything in this league "


“think about how the fakers have valued you and why you are still here and what players have not wanted to traded for you”


if the fakers don't give what Pop and Rc want, he will traded different team or sign the extension

Who will they say that to? Kawhi won't even meet with them - and certainly not without Uncle Dennis.

[DPG21920]

At this point I would be shocked if anything happens before 7-16. It’s possible obviously if a team makes a good offer but SA can’t offer the SM until 7-16 and the threat of them working it out with Kawhi is the only lever left to pull assuming Kawhi does not help SA by expanding his list of teams and telling PHI or Bos he will re-sign if they trade for him.

[RD2191]

At this point I would be shocked if anything happens before 7-16. It’s possible obviously if a team makes a good offer but SA can’t offer the SM until 7-16 and the threat of them working it out with Kawhi is the only lever left to pull assuming Kawhi does not help SA by expanding his list of teams and telling PHI or Bos he will re-sign if they trade for him.

I don't understand why he won't commit Philly. Doesn't uncle live there? Isn't the team Dr his personal Dr? Just doesn't make sense to me.

[sasaint]

I think Smith could play either guard or forward in today's small ball NBA. If we trade Kawhi, I expect Danny Green to start at the 3, and Smith has a similar physical profile.

Quite. I especially love when Danny does those 360 in-game jams.

[sasaint]

At this point I would be shocked if anything happens before 7-16. It’s possible obviously if a team makes a good offer but SA can’t offer the SM until 7-16 and the threat of them working it out with Kawhi is the only lever left to pull assuming Kawhi does not help SA by expanding his list of teams and telling PHI or Bos he will re-sign if they trade for him.

The way that the group has been crawfishing... Yeah, we just have to wait until the SM card can actually be played before we get to the end-game.

[tonight...you]

I don't understand why he won't commit Philly. Doesn't uncle live there? Isn't the team Dr his personal Dr? Just doesn't make sense to me.
He secretly wants to stay, but he's scared.

[DPG21920]

I don't understand why he won't commit Philly. Doesn't uncle live there? Isn't the team Dr his personal Dr? Just doesn't make sense to me.

The issue could be that as reported no one trusts Kawhi and his group. They question his motives after treating the NBAs premier franchise the way he did. He may be committing to PHI and PHI may not be buying it. We have Jabari saying he would consider PHI. Others too. Seems like his camp may be putting it out there but no one is buying it yet?

[RD2191]

The issue could be that as reported no one trusts Kawhi and his group. They question his motives after treating the NBAs premier franchise the way he did. He may be committing to PHI and PHI may not be buying it. We have Jabari saying he would consider PHI. Others too. Seems like his camp may be putting it out there but no one is buying it yet?

Makes sense imo.

[Mugen]

The issue could be that as reported no one trusts Kawhi and his group. They question his motives after treating the NBAs premier franchise the way he did. He may be committing to PHI and PHI may not be buying it. We have Jabari saying he would consider PHI. Others too. Seems like his camp may be putting it out there but no one is buying it yet?

:tu

[marinoman]

Done deal, kawhi is on a plane as we speak headed towards a city, pop due to undisclosed reason is holding it up.

[DPG21920]

This sucks. I’m so annoyed at the entire situation. Even if SA keeps Kawhi this was so badly handled.

[RD2191]

This sucks. I’m so annoyed at the entire situation. Even if SA keeps Kawhi this was so badly handled.

Same. I just keep refreshing Twitter for some news and I'm getting sick of it. :lol

[spurraider21]

It's a done deal. Trade already agreed to.

But Spurs holding it up and won't agree to the trade.

Because Cisneros

[loveforthegame]

This sucks. I’m so annoyed at the entire situation. Even if SA keeps Kawhi this was so badly handled.

This. It’s taken the fun out of everything basketball for me.

[Mugen]

This sucks. I’m so annoyed at the entire situation. Even if SA keeps Kawhi this was so badly handled.

Spurs aren't keeping these clowns tbh.

[spurraider21]

after dealing w/ uncle dennis you can tell why the spurs immediately shot down any discussions about lonzo :lol

[Clipper Nation]

It's a done deal, pop is holding it up because each upcoming player had to pass a history test (civil rights and slavery) with 320 multiple choice questions and a 6 page essay. Pop is hand scoring these and composing lengthy rebuttals to the essays which will probably demand another essay from the player.
Brett Brown: "So, do we have an agreement on a trade?"
Poop: "Trade? Who cares about basketball at a time like this, when we have a racist country and a racist president?"
Brett Brown: "That's all well and good, but are you trading us Kawhi or not?"
Poop: "Did you know that NASA just found a new planet?"

[Birn]

It's a done deal. Trade already agreed to.

But Spurs holding it up and won't agree to the trade.

Because Cisneros

Ok so the trade is agreed to but the Spurs are holding it up because they haven't agreed to the deal. Got it.

[spursistan]

The issue could be that as reported no one trusts Kawhi and his group. They question his motives after treating the NBAs premier franchise the way he did. He may be committing to PHI and PHI may not be buying it. We have Jabari saying he would consider PHI. Others too. Seems like his camp may be putting it out there but no one is buying it yet?
Deep

[K...]

Ok so the trade is agreed to but the Spurs are holding it up because they haven't agreed to the deal. Got it.

I don't think you understand how the league works. It's a done deal.

[DPG21920]

Spurs aren't keeping these clowns tbh.

I can see SA keeping Kawhi if they actually start communicating

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Done deal, kawhi is on a plane as we speak headed towards a city, pop due to undisclosed reason is holding it up.

:lol

[tholdren]

after dealing w/ uncle dennis you can tell why the spurs immediately shot down any discussions about lonzo :lol

Racist

[loveforthegame]

See if I have this right.

Spurs are not wanting to extend Leonard this summer. Super max or other (I assume or we’d hear some numbers by now?). The compromise is if Leonard commits long term they’ll add anorther all-star this season. If a trade worthy enough is on the table they’ll deal him though.

Leonard’s side is super max or trade to LA. Possibly Philly depending on reports. No in between.

[K...]

Racist

Lonzo is white though

[tholdren]

Lonzo is white though

Oh. Then best pg of this generation.

[Mugen]

Spurs could have had Zhaire Smith, Lonnie, and Michael Porter JR if they took that Clippers trade. Probably would have been able to shed Patty and/or Pau too while getting Tobias Harris back.

Sigh, that would have been nice but I guess the front office didn't think it was enough of a return to keep them competitive this season.

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after dealing w/ uncle dennis you can tell why the spurs immediately shot down any discussions about lonzo :lol

Yep--HIT RESET. Back to Spurs prototype. Leta bad apple get through, but there is a template that works, and it starts by excising the tumor currently jeopardizing the brand.

[Mr. Body]

Spurs could have had Zhaire Smith, Lonnie, and Michael Porter JR if they took that Clippers trade. Probably would have been able to shed Patty and/or Pau too while getting Tobias Harris back.

Sigh, that would have been nice but I guess the front office didn't think it was enough of a return to keep them competitive this season.

That Clippers trade was terrible.

[Mugen]

That Clippers trade was terrible.

We'll see what the spurs might end up with. Might not look too bad after it's all said and done.

Too bad the Clippers made some terrible picks.

[tholdren]

We'll see what the spurs might end up with. Might not look too bad after it's all said and done.

Too bad the Clippers made some terrible picks.

Austin rivers replacements

[spurraider21]

Ok so the trade is agreed to but the Spurs are holding it up because they haven't agreed to the deal. Got it.
im just repeating apalicisneros

[Mugen]

apa gets his news from the nurse's break room at the Phoenix Cedar Sinai office so unless one of those guys is treating Uncle Dennis' gout flare ups, i'd take his leaks with a huge grain of salt tbh.

[K...]

Spurs could have had Zhaire Smith, Lonnie, and Michael Porter JR if they took that Clippers trade. Probably would have been able to shed Patty and/or Pau too while getting Tobias Harris back.

Sigh, that would have been nice but I guess the front office didn't think it was enough of a return to keep them competitive this season.

The clippers only made that available on draft day from what I remember.

[spurschamps99030507]

Who will they say that to? Kawhi won't even meet with them - and certainly not without Uncle Dennis.

right now after all this shit kl or uncle dennis see that the fakers don't press the button of the trade because they (LA) want to keep kuzma and ingram???? wow

I want to see the reaction of kl and uncle dennis after the fakers prefer ingram and kuzma and not him......

the point is, "you're still here because the fakers value ingram and kuzma more than you, and you can go to the fakers now but they do not want to and you could sign with them for 188m but they do not want to, and for free next season that Is it for the fakers because you lose another 49 million and sign for 139million"?

checkmate

"we value you more than the fakers who dont even make a trade, here's the extension"

Pop and RC can say all this in training camp

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Anyone listening to SAS radio show? Him and Bill Plaschke are jerking off to the wondrous city of LA and the Laker franchise. Its maki g me want to ralph.

[Marcus Bryant]

:lol at the braintrust. This is why you always keep your options open. Now they seem stunned that the Spurs didn't just roll over and trade him (as well as that the Lakers didn't want to trade much - why trade much when he's said he's signing next year, anyways?).

Also it appears that multiple GMs around the league have serious reservations about dealing with Leonard's group.

Well done.

[LkrFan]

Y'all probably would Kiwi by now if not for fake injury, & Spurs would have best young prospect offered in any trade in Ingram plus a potential lottery pick via Lonzo trade. rip.

Pop is the reason. He need to check his ego. He's never had a player become publicly insubordinate the way Kiwi has. Given the national public perception he has and his military background, his dumbass pride is getting in the way of his judgment.

It is flat out incompetence if he doesn't do the best deal for the Spurs. Fuck whether it is dealing with the Lakers or whoever. If Kawhi stays, he'll be just giving lip service with one foot out of the door and an eye on La La land. That's not fair to Spur fans. I'd be pissed if I were Spur fan, with Pop. Not Kawhi.

[Pavlov]

Pop is the reason. He need to check his ego. He's never had a player become publicly insubordinate the way Kiwi has. Given the national public perception he has and his military background, his dumbass pride is getting in the way of his judgment.

It is flat out incompetence if he doesn't do the best deal for the Spurs. Fuck whether it is dealing with the Lakers or whoever. If Kawhi stays, he'll be just giving lip service with one foot out of the door and an eye on La La land. That's not fair to Spur fans. I'd be pissed if I were Spur fan, with Pop. Not Kawhi.What do you care if you're just going to get him next summer?

[LkrFan]

What do you care if you're just going to get him next summer?

Please. Just like we got PG13? If we want him we need to go get him. If we wait we'll be too late.

[daslicer]

What do you care if you're just going to get him next summer?

He cares because it's 1 year taken away from Lebron's prime which in returns makes the window smaller for the Lakers to win another title.

[Marcus Bryant]

Not to mention that you just spent most of this year publicly shitting on the one team who can offer you substantially more, perhaps one-hundred million American dollars more than any other NBA franchise.

At this point the camp has all but admitted that Leonard held out last season after being cleared to play by team doctors.

Good plan to chase that supermax.

[Pavlov]

Please. Just like we got PG13? If we want him we need to go get him. If we wait we'll be too late.So it sounds like your guys need to do something.

[Kermit]

Pop is the reason. He need to check his ego. He's never had a player become publicly insubordinate the way Kiwi has. Given the national public perception he has and his military background, his dumbass pride is getting in the way of his judgment.

It is flat out incompetence if he doesn't do the best deal for the Spurs. Fuck whether it is dealing with the Lakers or whoever. If Kawhi stays, he'll be just giving lip service with one foot out of the door and an eye on La La land. That's not fair to Spur fans. I'd be pissed if I were Spur fan, with Pop. Not Kawhi.

Laker fan upset that Kawhi hasn’t been traded for two of Magic’s unused prophylactics and Kobe’s rape panties.

[daslicer]

Pop is the reason. He need to check his ego. He's never had a player become publicly insubordinate the way Kiwi has. Given the national public perception he has and his military background, his dumbass pride is getting in the way of his judgment.

It is flat out incompetence if he doesn't do the best deal for the Spurs. Fuck whether it is dealing with the Lakers or whoever. If Kawhi stays, he'll be just giving lip service with one foot out of the door and an eye on La La land. That's not fair to Spur fans. I'd be pissed if I were Spur fan, with Pop. Not Kawhi.

I'm actually very supportive of Pop. He's handling the situation the way I would handle it. Kawhi dicked the Spurs over this year by not playing and tarnished their reputation. Why would I want to accommodate Kawhi for his bad behavior plus the Spurs will never get close to equal value for him. So I'm cool with just letting him walk next summer.

[Marcus Bryant]

:lol at people continuing to think that Pop is some kind of militaristic asshole. Seems to be projection.

[Budkin]

:lol at people continuing to think that Pop is some kind of militaristic asshole. Seems to be projection.

Pop knows the best option for the Spurs is to keep the top 3 player and try to work it out.

[loveforthegame]

So teams will not sign Leonard next summer as a free agent because they don’t want to deal with his group? How crazy is that.

[LkrFan]

I'm actually very supportive of Pop. He's handling the situation the way I would handle it. Kawhi dicked the Spurs over this year by not playing and tarnished their reputation. Why would I want to accommodate Kawhi for his bad behavior plus the Spurs will never get close to equal value for him. So I'm cool with just letting him walk next summer.

Getting a great deal for your organization trumps the pettiness of not giving Kiwi what he wants.

Many of you farmers say our team is shit, but why did LBJ choose to play with these "scrubs?" Don't say money, cause he could have signed with Cleveland for over $200 million dollars. He left over $50 million to play with Lonzo and our other scrubs. :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

I'm actually very supportive of Pop. He's handling the situation the way I would handle it. Kawhi dicked the Spurs over this year by not playing and tarnished their reputation. Why would I want to accommodate Kawhi for his bad behavior plus the Spurs will never get close to equal value for him. So I'm cool with just letting him walk next summer.

Right. Even if there's a reconciliation are the Spurs going to be open to the idea of the full supermax? For a guy who held out on the Spurs last season and whose group has been doing everything to tarnish the Spurs' rep?

[bklynspursfan]

Pop is the reason. He need to check his ego. He's never had a player become publicly insubordinate the way Kiwi has. Given the national public perception he has and his military background, his dumbass pride is getting in the way of his judgment.

It is flat out incompetence if he doesn't do the best deal for the Spurs. Fuck whether it is dealing with the Lakers or whoever. If Kawhi stays, he'll be just giving lip service with one foot out of the door and an eye on La La land. That's not fair to Spur fans. I'd be pissed if I were Spur fan, with Pop. Not Kawhi.

Except Kawhi hasn't publicly said shit :lol

Kawhi is just a pawn

[LkrFan]

I'm actually very supportive of Pop. He's handling the situation the way I would handle it. Kawhi dicked the Spurs over this year by not playing and tarnished their reputation. Why would I want to accommodate Kawhi for his bad behavior plus the Spurs will never get close to equal value for him. So I'm cool with just letting him walk next summer.

Pop publicly talked dismissively and disrespectfully to Kiwi. "You have to ask Kiwi and his camp..." or some shit like that was said any time Kiwi came up as a topic from reporters. Any man would be pissed off. I don't know the whole story and don't care, all I know is when Pop had a chance to publicly support his disgruntled star, he chose not to.

[LkrFan]

Except Kawhi hasn't publicly said shit :lol

Kawhi is just a pawn

:lol

[Pavlov]

Getting a great deal for your organization trumps the pettiness of not giving Kiwi what he wants.

Many of you farmers say our team is shit, but why did LBJ choose to play with these "scrubs?" Don't say money, cause he could have signed with Cleveland for over $200 million dollars. He left over $50 million to play with Lonzo and our other scrubs. :lolIt's easier to be a movie producer in LA.

[Ginobili2Duncan]

It's pretty obvious you can't trust the media's coverage. Stephen A's flip flop on GS signing Cousins just proved they're just being told what to say by producers to generate interest in an embarrassingly imbalanced NBA right now.

Is it possible that this whole ordeal was never about playing in LA, it was all about the supermax. I'm sure Kawhi would choose LA if the Spurs offered the same amount of money as the Lakers. But this whole thing was a poorly executed plan of using LA as leverage if the difference between the Spurs offer and what the Lakers offer wasn't substantial. It's pretty clear he's getting horrible advice from his team and they tried to play the Spurs as chumps but does anyone else believe this all goes away of Kawhi proves himself healthy and the Spurs give him his money?

[BillMc]

Right. Even if there's a reconciliation are the Spurs going to be open to the idea of the full supermax? For a guy who held out on the Spurs last season and whose group has been doing everything to tarnish the Spurs' rep?

That is the 220 million dollar question. Hard to believe they would, but talent trumps everything sometimes.

[Mugen]

Please. Just like we got PG13? If we want him we need to go get him. If we wait we'll be too late.

Sounds like you should be mad at Magic, not Pop.

[marinoman]

Please. Just like we got PG13? If we want him we need to go get him. If we wait we'll be too late.
:lol

[Marcus Bryant]

It's pretty obvious you can't trust the media's coverage. Stephen A's flip flop on GS signing Cousins just proved they're just being told what to say by producers to generate interest in an embarrassingly imbalanced NBA right now.

Is it possible that this whole ordeal was never about playing in LA, it was all about the supermax. I'm sure Kawhi would choose LA if the Spurs offered the same amount of money as the Lakers. But this whole thing was a poorly executed plan of using LA as leverage if the difference between the Spurs offer and what the Lakers offer wasn't substantial. It's pretty clear he's getting horrible advice from his team and they tried to play the Spurs as chumps but does anyone else believe this all goes away of Kawhi proves himself healthy and the Spurs give him his money?

It's possible. But the inexperience shows as they immediately went with a scorched Earth policy and played the absolute last and most extreme cards first. You don't do that if you're trying to get a team to max out a player, especially an extension of that magnitude. It's all about saying the right things, about how the player is committed to the organization and being the face of the franchise.

[Lakers999]

I don't feel sorry for the Spurs franchise. they deserve something like this to happen to them. Sadly, they do not know what to do about it and instead of owning it and trade KL for some pieces they are being petty and selfish and would rather ruin a man's career even more and hurt their own franchise and lose him to free agency. CMON Spurs!!!! great franchises learn to rebound from shit like this. YOU want to be known as a great franchise instead of a small market club. make the moves and move on... Build from shit instead of wallowing in self pitty.

The lakers have been through this 4 times, Celtics have been through this 9 times, Cleveland 3 times, Bucks, Miami etc.... Step the FUCK UP Spurs

[daslicer]

Getting a great deal for your organization trumps the pettiness of not giving Kiwi what he wants.

Many of you farmers say our team is shit, but why did LBJ choose to play with these "scrubs?" Don't say money, cause he could have signed with Cleveland for over $200 million dollars. He left over $50 million to play with Lonzo and our other scrubs. :lol

:lol Come on you can't be that dense to not realized Lebron came to the Lakers mainly because they are located in LA. Lebron would have signed with the Lakers even if they had an entire roster consisting of G-leaguers. Lebron is obsessed with Hollywood and has a film production company he's trying to get off the ground. LA has everything that Lebron want's business wise. This was a business move more so than a basketball move.

Anyways the way the NBA landscape is set up is that the Spurs are never going to get a great deal unless the Celtics are wiling to give up Tatum/Brown. The only other scenario where the Spurs would get a great deal is if the Pelicans would be willing to trade Davis for Kawhi or if the Sixers are willing to give up Simmons/Covington/Saric. Highly unlikely any of these scenarios I mention happen so the Spurs are just better off letting Kawhi walk. No point in getting a bunch of bums in which you will have to overpay to keep.

[apalisoc_9]

Pop is the reason. He need to check his ego. He's never had a player become publicly insubordinate the way Kiwi has. Given the national public perception he has and his military background, his dumbass pride is getting in the way of his judgment.

It is flat out incompetence if he doesn't do the best deal for the Spurs. Fuck whether it is dealing with the Lakers or whoever. If Kawhi stays, he'll be just giving lip service with one foot out of the door and an eye on La La land. That's not fair to Spur fans. I'd be pissed if I were Spur fan, with Pop. Not Kawhi.

Boom

[look_at_g_shred]

I don't feel sorry for the Spurs franchise. they deserve something like this to happen to them. Sadly, they do not know what to do about it and instead of owning it and trade KL for some pieces they are being petty and selfish and would rather ruin a man's career even more and hurt their own franchise and lose him to free agency. CMON Spurs!!!! great franchises learn to rebound from shit like this. YOU want to be known as a great franchise instead of a small market club. make the moves and move on... Build from shit instead of wallowing in self pitty.

The lakers have been through this 4 times, Celtics have been through this 9 times, Cleveland 3 times, Bucks, Miami etc.... Step the FUCK UP Spurs
How are they being petty? Kawhi SIGNED his contract for 4 years. The spurs are not obligated to trade anyone under contract. Kawhi has to hold his end and playout his final year.

[tonight...you]

I don't feel sorry for the Spurs franchise. they deserve something like this to happen to them. Sadly, they do not know what to do about it and instead of owning it and trade KL for some pieces they are being petty and selfish and would rather ruin a man's career even more and hurt their own franchise and lose him to free agency. CMON Spurs!!!! great franchises learn to rebound from shit like this. YOU want to be known as a great franchise instead of a small market club. make the moves and move on... Build from shit instead of wallowing in self pitty.

The lakers have been through this 4 times, Celtics have been through this 9 times, Cleveland 3 times, Bucks, Miami etc.... Step the FUCK UP Spurs
Ha ha ha! Awesome... somebody getting a little impatient?

[Pavlov]

BoomWhat's today's done deal?

[Pavlov]

Ha ha ha! Awesome... somebody getting a little impatient?:lol no shit. They're trying every persuasion tactic they can think of.

[marinoman]

Boom
:lol Yeah that’s the allie you want

Lkrfan and apalisoc need to hang out together

[Marcus Bryant]

Ha ha ha! Awesome... somebody getting a little impatient?

:tu Step up Spurs and trade your best player when you don't have to because you've done so well?

I assume that was someone's sock.

[Marcus Bryant]

:lol no shit. They're trying every persuasion tactic they can think of.

Laker fan's not that bright.

[daslicer]

Pop publicly talked dismissively and disrespectfully to Kiwi. "You have to ask Kiwi and his camp..." or some shit like that was said any time Kiwi came up as a topic from reporters. Any man would be pissed off. I don't know the whole story and don't care, all I know is when Pop had a chance to publicly support his disgruntled star, he chose not to.

And here is where the problem lies which is your Laker homerism doesn't allow you to see how Kawhi dicked over the Spurs and how this was all manufactured bs by his opportunistic Uncle and a bunch of Kikes who want him out of SA at all costs.

[Gino20]

I am starting to get a suspicious feeling that Kawhi will end up staying with the Spurs. All of the reports lead me to conclude that this may just been a leverage play for the Super Max contract. PATFO obviously are only willing to trade him for a specific package and I don't think they will lower their demands much, nor should they.

[marinoman]

Why do laker fans even want kawhi? They got kuzma :lol

[DAF86]

I don't feel sorry for the Spurs franchise. they deserve something like this to happen to them. Sadly, they do not know what to do about it and instead of owning it and trade KL for some pieces they are being petty and selfish and would rather ruin a man's career even more and hurt their own franchise and lose him to free agency. CMON Spurs!!!! great franchises learn to rebound from shit like this. YOU want to be known as a great franchise instead of a small market club. make the moves and move on... Build from shit instead of wallowing in self pitty.

The lakers have been through this 4 times, Celtics have been through this 9 times, Cleveland 3 times, Bucks, Miami etc.... Step the FUCK UP Spurs

Muhahahaha. If this is not a troll, this post gives me great satisfaction. :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

And here is where the problem lies which is your Laker homerism doesn't allow you to see how Kawhi dicked over the Spurs and how this was all manufactured bs by his opportunistic Uncle and a bunch of Kikes who want him out of SA at all costs.

Not caring is indicated by spending countless hours on the message board of a team they aren't a fan of...

[lebomb]

HELL YES!!!!!!!

[Mr. Body]

I am starting to get a suspicious feeling that Kawhi will end up staying with the Spurs. All of the reports lead me to conclude that this may just been a leverage play for the Super Max contract. PATFO obviously are only willing to trade him for a specific package and I don't think they will lower their demands much, nor should they.

Of course it was a leverage ploy to get the supermax, cats what it always was. It went out of control.

[Chinook]

HELL YES!!!!!!!

I mean, this thread is okay and has been more entertaining than most bloated topics are. But try to contain yourself.

[vy65]

1014216292872740865

[Marcus Bryant]

1014216292872740865

Seems significant.

[LkrFan]

:lol Come on you can't be that dense to not realized Lebron came to the Lakers mainly because they are located in LA. Lebron would have signed with the Lakers even if they had an entire roster consisting of G-leaguers. Lebron is obsessed with Hollywood and has a film production company he's trying to get off the ground. LA has everything that Lebron want's business wise. This was a business move more so than a basketball move.

Anyways the way the NBA landscape is set up is that the Spurs are never going to get a great deal unless the Celtics are wiling to give up Tatum/Brown. The only other scenario where the Spurs would get a great deal is if the Pelicans would be willing to trade Davis for Kawhi or if the Sixers are willing to give up Simmons/Covington/Saric. Highly unlikely any of these scenarios I mention happen so the Spurs are just better off letting Kawhi walk. No point in getting a bunch of bums in which you will have to overpay to keep.

Do you know that LeBron has owned 2 mansions in LA for a while now? He's not all gaga because it's LA. It's more so that he believes in the vision Magic put out to him during their 3-hour meeting on 1 Jul 2018.

The issue isn't LeBron at all - it's Kawhi. He wants to play in LA and likely won't resign in racist ass Boston. That's why you won't get Tatum or Brown from Ainge. I guaran-damn-tee you if Kiwi gave assurances he'd re-sign, you'd get Tatum, picks, and contract fillers. But we all know he won't stay in Boston.

Now Unibrow is another deal. I'd trade him to San Antonio straight up. Will it happens? Who knows? But I'd do it.

[vy65]

Seems significant.

I'm really beginning to think that his "team" are total fucking amateurs and truly have no clue what they're doing. From the docs to the trade demand to the negotiations, none of this sounds like the work of someone who knows what they're doing.

[LkrFan]

Sounds like you should be mad at Magic, not Pop.

Nope. I'm good tbh. Joe Ingles took a wet shit on "Playoff P" He went 2-16 in a closeout game vs some whiteboys. I'm over him (check my post history downstairs if you don't believe me :lol).

[SAGirl]

I mean, this thread is okay and has been more entertaining than most bloated topics are. But try to contain yourself.
:lmao

[Pavlov]

Of course it was a leverage ploy to get the supermax, cats what it always was. It went out of control.http://www.cutecatgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Cute-Cat-GIFs-HQ.gif

[LkrFan]

It's easier to be a movie producer in LA.

R, PG-13, or Porn? :lol

[LkrFan]

Boom

:toast

[Pavlov]

R, PG-13, or Porn? :lolThe movies he is actually producing.

[Mr. Body]

I'm really beginning to think that his "team" are total fucking amateurs and truly have no clue what they're doing. From the docs to the trade demand to the negotiations, none of this sounds like the work of someone who knows what they're doing.

They're amateur 'entrepreneurs' not far from Lavar Ball. They're trump supporters and are taking Kawhi for a ride. They think they're brilliant and will start a new agent empire but it's all terrible stuff. Leonard will come out the end way worse off.

[LkrFan]

Not caring is indicated by spending countless hours on the message board of a team they aren't a fan of...

I'm also a member of LG (for over a decade). I like ST. What's the problem? :downspin:

[Marcus Bryant]

I'm really beginning to think that his "team" are total fucking amateurs and truly have no clue what they're doing. From the docs to the trade demand to the negotiations, none of this sounds like the work of someone who knows what they're doing.

That timing explains a lot.

[tonight...you]

R, PG-13, or Porn? :lol
Lol... A Lepron James Production...

[daslicer]

Do you know that LeBron has owned 2 mansions in LA for a while now? He's not all gaga because it's LA. It's more so that he believes in the vision Magic put out to him during their 3-hour meeting on 1 Jul 2018.

The issue isn't LeBron at all - it's Kawhi. He wants to play in LA and likely won't resign in racist ass Boston. That's why you won't get Tatum or Brown from Ainge. I guaran-damn-tee you if Kiwi gave assurances he'd re-sign, you'd get Tatum, picks, and contract fillers. But we all know he won't stay in Boston.

Now Unibrow is another deal. I'd trade him to San Antonio straight up. Will it happens? Who knows? But I'd do it.

:lol More proof that Lebron is gaga about LA that he actually owned mansions in LA prior to signing to the Lakers. It's like I said before Lebron is Hollywood and has been in the film production business the last few years. So it's obvious he would want to be in LA full time to pursue that endeavor and other business opportunities in the entertainment industry that only LA can provide.

[Mugen]

Nope. I'm good tbh. Joe Ingles took a wet shit on "Playoff P" He went 2-16 in a closeout game vs some whiteboys. I'm over him (check my post history downstairs if you don't believe me :lol).

I'm saying you should be mad at Magic for supposedly not offering more than Earvin Jr and whatever t-cells he has left.

We talked about upping your reading comprehension before, Esteban.

[gambit1990]

per reddit:

Kawhi's agency, Impact Sports, placed his uncle and mom on payroll for five years without the knowledge of his original agent. That agent is now removed and suing the agency for withholding his commission.

This was revealed in the court documents of a Miami case complaint and jury demand of the agent. Page 7 of 28

https://dlbjbjzgnk95t.cloudfront.net/1052000/1052461/complaint.pdf

Brian Elfus had been the agent of Kawhi partnered to Frank Mitchell of Impact Sports. Elfus alleges an agreement between him and Frankell required the consultation of large expenses to be had between both parties but that was not done for Kawhi's family. This is among other suspicious expenses involving other clients like $340,000 paid to Will Barton for e.g. He alleges that Impact Sports also took the stance of saying that Kawhi had not passed on commission funds to Impact Sports so he was in turn not paid when in fact Kawhi had done so, hence his dispute with the company now and Kawhi's recent court appearance in Miami.

Impact Sports has struggled a bit but has stayed afloat due to cash injections from investors and loans from former NFL players. The most recent being Joseph Sutton, now Senior Managing Partner. He injected cash into the company through shell companies. This complicates the current court case a bit. Elfus essentially claims that Impact and the Suttons have collected the money from Kawhi but not paid him by claiming otherwise. Elfus is reported to have had a good relationship with the Spurs by ESPN's Ramona Shelburne and that communication between the organization and Kawhi's camp deteriorated when he departed.

[spurraider21]

Nope. I'm good tbh. Joe Ingles took a wet shit on "Playoff P" He went 2-16 in a closeout game vs some whiteboys. I'm over him (check my post history downstairs if you don't believe me :lol).
damn, parroting CN takes

that's low

[Mr. Body]

Get Trumpers out of sports and government. They ruin everything they touch.

[Gino20]

per reddit:

Kawhi's agency, Impact Sports, placed his uncle and mom on payroll for five years without the knowledge of his original agent. That agent is now removed and suing the agency for withholding his commission.

This was revealed in the court documents of a Miami case complaint and jury demand of the agent. Page 7 of 28

https://dlbjbjzgnk95t.cloudfront.net/1052000/1052461/complaint.pdf

Brian Elfus had been the agent of Kawhi partnered to Frank Mitchell of Impact Sports. Elfus alleges an agreement between him and Frankell required the consultation of large expenses to be had between both parties but that was not done for Kawhi's family. This is among other suspicious expenses involving other clients like $340,000 paid to Will Barton for e.g. He alleges that Impact Sports also took the stance of saying that Kawhi had not passed on commission funds to Impact Sports so he was in turn not paid when in fact Kawhi had done so, hence his dispute with the company now and Kawhi's recent court appearance in Miami.

Impact Sports has struggled a bit but has stayed afloat due to cash injections from investors and loans from former NFL players. The most recent being Joseph Sutton, now Senior Managing Partner. He injected cash into the company through shell companies. This complicates the current court case a bit. Elfus essentially claims that Impact and the Suttons have collected the money from Kawhi but not paid him by claiming otherwise. Elfus is reported to have had a good relationship with the Spurs by ESPN's Ramona Shelburne and that communication between the organization and Kawhi's camp deteriorated when he departed.

:wow

[Mugen]

per reddit:

Kawhi's agency, Impact Sports, placed his uncle and mom on payroll for five years without the knowledge of his original agent. That agent is now removed and suing the agency for withholding his commission.

This was revealed in the court documents of a Miami case complaint and jury demand of the agent. Page 7 of 28

https://dlbjbjzgnk95t.cloudfront.net/1052000/1052461/complaint.pdf

Brian Elfus had been the agent of Kawhi partnered to Frank Mitchell of Impact Sports. Elfus alleges an agreement between him and Frankell required the consultation of large expenses to be had between both parties but that was not done for Kawhi's family. This is among other suspicious expenses involving other clients like $340,000 paid to Will Barton for e.g. He alleges that Impact Sports also took the stance of saying that Kawhi had not passed on commission funds to Impact Sports so he was in turn not paid when in fact Kawhi had done so, hence his dispute with the company now and Kawhi's recent court appearance in Miami.

Impact Sports has struggled a bit but has stayed afloat due to cash injections from investors and loans from former NFL players. The most recent being Joseph Sutton, now Senior Managing Partner. He injected cash into the company through shell companies. This complicates the current court case a bit. Elfus essentially claims that Impact and the Suttons have collected the money from Kawhi but not paid him by claiming otherwise. Elfus is reported to have had a good relationship with the Spurs by ESPN's Ramona Shelburne and that communication between the organization and Kawhi's camp deteriorated when he departed.

Shit is wild. It's insane that Kawhi doesn't realize how sketchy his current agency and his "group" is...almost cult-like tbh.

[RD2191]

Man, Kawhi really shit the bed by trusting his dumbass uncle.

[daslicer]

Man, Kawhi really shit the bed by trusting his dumbass uncle.

His uncle also shit the bed by allowing a bunch of Kikes to use him as a pawn. I feel Kawhi and his Uncle are dumb and dumber.

[marinoman]

Nope. I'm good tbh. Joe Ingles took a wet shit on "Playoff P" He went 2-16 in a closeout game vs some whiteboys. I'm over him (check my post history downstairs if you don't believe me :lol).
1014914172965048325
And so are you :lol

[2Cleva]

Zach Lowe feature on Kawhi

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23997175/zach-lowe-kawhi-leonard-san-antonio-spurs-lebron-james-los-angeles-lakers-nba

[BillMc]

Man, Kawhi really shit the bed by trusting his dumbass uncle.

Wonder if KL will be one of those athletes who makes millions and then is broke by 45

[HarlemHeat37]

Kawhi's still a young man, he's a little younger than me and I certainly still make financial mistakes without the burden of being a millionaire that has to support his people..he lost his father at such a young age, it makes sense that he would want to help his uncle build his own shop and naively trust him..

I don't feel any hate towards him at all, tbh..he's in a tough spot..

He's just another name on the list of athletes and celebrities that have been eaten by the machine..they always know who to target..

[Mr. Body]

Zach Lowe feature on Kawhi

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23997175/zach-lowe-kawhi-leonard-san-antonio-spurs-lebron-james-los-angeles-lakers-nba

Lowe has been terrible after Grantland. He's pushing the Mouse agenda hard.

[coachmac87]

Pop publicly talked dismissively and disrespectfully to Kiwi. "You have to ask Kiwi and his camp..." or some shit like that was said any time Kiwi came up as a topic from reporters. Any man would be pissed off. I don't know the whole story and don't care, all I know is when Pop had a chance to publicly support his disgruntled star, he chose not to.

Great you’ve admitted that you’re a sheep and can’t form your own opinion...

“I don’t know much about the situation, and pretend I don’t care...but here’s my regurgitated mainstream media opinion”

It’s funny people just pick one side...you haven’t once tried to think or analyze why PATFO took “this position”..

But oh yeah I forgot you’re a sheep...

[ducks]

Kawhi's still a young man, he's a little younger than me and I certainly still make financial mistakes without the burden of being a millionaire that has to support his people..he lost his father at such a young age, it makes sense that he would want to help his uncle build his own shop and naively trust him..

I don't feel any hate towards him at all, tbh..he's in a tough spot..

He's just another name on the list of athletes and celebrities that have been eaten by the machine..they always know who to target..does not the nab have trainging on this when they get drafted now

[TXstbobcat]

per reddit:

Kawhi's agency, Impact Sports, placed his uncle and mom on payroll for five years without the knowledge of his original agent. That agent is now removed and suing the agency for withholding his commission.

This was revealed in the court documents of a Miami case complaint and jury demand of the agent. Page 7 of 28

https://dlbjbjzgnk95t.cloudfront.net/1052000/1052461/complaint.pdf

Brian Elfus had been the agent of Kawhi partnered to Frank Mitchell of Impact Sports. Elfus alleges an agreement between him and Frankell required the consultation of large expenses to be had between both parties but that was not done for Kawhi's family. This is among other suspicious expenses involving other clients like $340,000 paid to Will Barton for e.g. He alleges that Impact Sports also took the stance of saying that Kawhi had not passed on commission funds to Impact Sports so he was in turn not paid when in fact Kawhi had done so, hence his dispute with the company now and Kawhi's recent court appearance in Miami.

Impact Sports has struggled a bit but has stayed afloat due to cash injections from investors and loans from former NFL players. The most recent being Joseph Sutton, now Senior Managing Partner. He injected cash into the company through shell companies. This complicates the current court case a bit. Elfus essentially claims that Impact and the Suttons have collected the money from Kawhi but not paid him by claiming otherwise. Elfus is reported to have had a good relationship with the Spurs by ESPN's Ramona Shelburne and that communication between the organization and Kawhi's camp deteriorated when he departed.

Spounds like the organization is a total fucking clown show.

[BillMc]

Kawhi's still a young man, he's a little younger than me and I certainly still make financial mistakes without the burden of being a millionaire that has to support his people..he lost his father at such a young age, it makes sense that he would want to help his uncle build his own shop and naively trust him..

I don't feel any hate towards him at all, tbh..he's in a tough spot..

He's just another name on the list of athletes and celebrities that have been eaten by the machine..they always know who to target..

Well said.

[benefactor]

:lol at people continuing to think that Pop is some kind of militaristic asshole. Seems to be projection.
Pop is a bleeding heart liberal. He's about as far from that as one can imagine. He can call out the team at times and crack on players during games but one on one he's tissue paper soft.

[ducks]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23997175/zach-lowe-kawhi-leonard-san-antonio-spurs-lebron-james-los-angeles-lakers-nba

james wants splash now

[benefactor]

does not the nab have trainging on this when they get drafted now
https://i.giphy.com/media/glmRyiSI3v5E4/giphy.webp

[Mugen]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23997175/zach-lowe-kawhi-leonard-san-antonio-spurs-lebron-james-los-angeles-lakers-nba

james wants splash now

bend over ducks, I'll give ya a splash.

[TXstbobcat]

does not the nab have trainging on this when they get drafted now

Anyone want to translate this into English?

[Chinook]

https://media.giphy.com/media/glmRyiSI3v5E4/giphy.gif

Sometimes I feel like D.U.C.K.S. is an acronym for some AI program unleashed onto Spurstalk back in the day to learn how humans communicate. If so, I hope tech has evolved since then.

[Mr. Body]

Spounds like the organization is a total fucking clown show.

Espn, you mean?

[Chinook]

Anyone want to translate this into English?

"Doesn't the NBA have training on this (balancing finances with family obligations) when players get drafted nowadays?"

[LkrFan]

Great you’ve admitted that you’re a sheep and can’t form your own opinion...

“I don’t know much about the situation, and pretend I don’t care...but here’s my regurgitated mainstream media opinion”

It’s funny people just pick one side...you haven’t once tried to think or analyze why PATFO took “this position”..

But oh yeah I forgot you’re a sheep...

:lol

Pop is making a baa-aaa-aad decision by alienating his franchise player. How's that? :lol

[marinoman]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23997175/zach-lowe-kawhi-leonard-san-antonio-spurs-lebron-james-los-angeles-lakers-nba

james wants splash now
Go get Jimmy Butler then, just make sure you don’t give them kuz, hes untouchable :lol

[LkrFan]

damn, parroting CN takes

that's low

:lol

[LkrFan]

I'm saying you should be mad at Magic for supposedly not offering more than Earvin Jr and whatever t-cells he has left.

We talked about upping your reading comprehension before, Esteban.

:lol

[Mr. Body]

Jimmy Butler won't do shit for the Lakers. But suddenly he'll be the next coming of Kobe Bryant.

[marinoman]

does not the nab have trainging on this when they get drafted now
Well said

[spurs10]

Anyone want to translate this into English? Their is know reason trump Walmart usa.

[NikosChelsea7]

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[spursistan]

1014969734528471040
Where are the fuckin' asswipers? ^^ :lol

Listen to it all..It's pretty damning stuff..

[Spurs da champs]

1014969734528471040

Wow...fuck Kawhi.

[spurs1990]

Where are the fuckin' asswipers? ^^ :lol

Listen to it all..It's pretty damning stuff..

Side note Michael Wright seems to be both very objective and knowledgeable on the Spurs. More than any other local media figure from what I've read online.

[coachmac87]

:lol

Pop is making a baa-aaa-aad decision by alienating his franchise player. How's that? :lol


Ok let’s say he did...why would you think he’d do such a thing?

[Mugen]

1014969734528471040

That's insane.

Wright also said that Kawhi is about "to get out of there, at least I think."

Please get this fuck off the team.

[diceman]

Side note Michael Wright seems to be both very objective and knowledgeable on the Spurs. More than any other local media figure from what I've read online.

Agree 100%.

[NickiRasgo]

1014969734528471040

And when you thought that what Clippers did to Mavs to keep DeAndre Jordan last 2015 was the worst.

[coachmac87]

1014969734528471040

“I probably shouldn’t say this....”

Hmmm I wonder why?

[MoSpur02]

LOL.

That's insane. This why they strongly considered trading him at the deadline. I really wish I knew what the offer was from Boston. They got the okay from ownership, but for some reason didn't pull the trigger. My guess is they probably felt they could repair the relationship.

This is why I think he might remain when it's all said and done. His group seems very immature and inexperienced that they might be scared into an agreement at the last minute.

[weebo]

If any of this is true, fucking WOW--he was cashing checks and they were pulling this kind of shit??

[SpursDynasty85]

LOL.

That's insane. This why they strongly considered trading him at the deadline. I really wish I knew what the offer was from Boston. They got the okay from ownership, but for some reason didn't pull the trigger. My guess is they probably felt they could repair the relationship.

This is why I think he might remain when it's all said and done. His group seems very immature and inexperienced that they might be scared into an agreement at the last minute.

Personally I like to think Spurs held off on trading Leonard so Pop and company could talk some sense into Leonard before he let's his uncle and agent ruin his life.

[NASpurs]

At this point, I'm willing to trade him to the purgatory of the NBA (Sacramento?) while receiving a crap package back. More than likely he won't re-sign with Sac so he'll lose $80 mil in the process.

I'm petty as fuck and I don't care.

[ducks]

Yeah because things are bigger then basketball

[Mugen]

I mean, this has to be one of the craziest stories in NBA history right?

[RD2191]

1014969734528471040

That's insane. What a bunch of faggots.

[NickiRasgo]

I mean, this has to be one of the craziest stories in NBA history right?

And of course, it's with the Spurs.

[look_at_g_shred]

So this happened during the season right? But RC was interviewed at the draft months after this happened. He said they still want to keep him long term. So either this dude is just throwing darts at the wall or they don't give af and want to keep him at all costs...

[RD2191]

What if kawhi is like a fukin human experiment or something?? Resident conspiracy theorists feel free to chime in.

[TD 21]

:lmao At the 76ers. Spurs would obviously prefer to not trade with the Lakers, so if these idiots replaced Fultz with Saric, in their supposed offer that also includes Covington and the Heat 1st, they'd probably have a deal or at least more than likely have the best standing offer.

Embiid is unlikely to have longevity, so they probably don't have as long of a window as they'd hope. Unless they're confident in Fultz becoming a star, they need another one to become contenders.

Worst case scenario, Leonard leaves in a year, but they've cleared Fultz and Covington's salaries and have a ton of cap space to pursue Irving, Walker, Harris, Bledsoe, Butler. Even if they had to settle for 1 of the 2 non stars in that group, add them to Embiid, Simmons, Saric, to a lesser extent Smith and they'd still be well set up going forward.

As Lowe has been alluding to, Spurs need another team in the mix to at least scare the 76ers and Lakers. The Heat have long been big game hunters and risk takers. Obviously don't know if they'd do it, but a Winslow, Richardson, Adebayo, package, even without a 1st, though underwhelming, is comparable to Saric, Covington, 1st and could be enough to get them to budge on Fultz.

[Mugen]

Welp, I hope this idiot is ready for the most awkward year of his life. Because the Spurs aren't getting shit for him with all these stories and it makes more and more sense to just keep him (suspend him if he sits out) or ship him to some garbage team/city as a final fuck you.

[RD2191]

:lmao At the 76ers. Spurs would obviously prefer to not trade with the Lakers, so if these idiots replaced Fultz with Saric, in their supposed offer that also includes Covington and the Heat 1st, they'd probably have a deal or at least more than likely have the best standing offer.

Embiid is unlikely to have longevity, so they probably don't have as long of a window as they'd hope. Unless they're confident in Fultz becoming a star, they need another one to become contenders.

Worst case scenario, Leonard leaves in a year, but they've cleared Fultz and Covington's salaries and have a ton of cap space to pursue Irving, Walker, Harris, Bledsoe, Butler. Even if they had to settle for 1 of the 2 non stars in that group, add them to Embiid, Simmons, Saric, to a lesser extent Smith and they'd still be well set up going forward.

As Lowe has been alluding to, Spurs need another team in the mix to at least scare the 76ers and Lakers. The Heat have long been big game hunters and risk takers. Obviously don't know if they'd do it, but a Winslow, Richardson, Adebayo, package, even without a 1st, though underwhelming, is comparable to Saric, Covington, 1st and could be enough to get them to budge on Fultz.

I don't think Kawhi is the problem, its his psycho group.

[Spurs9]

Kawhi should just switch to using Rich Paul as his agent. I'm honestly so tired of hearing about this stupid drama continue to drag out. Just trade him for Ingram/Hart and move on already.

[RD2191]

LOL.

That's insane. This why they strongly considered trading him at the deadline. I really wish I knew what the offer was from Boston. They got the okay from ownership, but for some reason didn't pull the trigger. My guess is they probably felt they could repair the relationship.

This is why I think he might remain when it's all said and done. His group seems very immature and inexperienced that they might be scared into an agreement at the last minute.

Is Kawhi worth dealing with all that though? His group isn't going anywhere.

[spursistan]

In retrospect, they should have shipped him at the trade deadline Boogie Cousins-style..Spurs been getting unmitigated crap ever since he publicly asked out..

All that talking heads bluster aside, GMs sitting in their offices know who they should actually trust about this whole saga.

Their first red flag is along these lines: "wait a minute, why is this dude cancering it up and quitting on Greg fuckin' Popovich and the freakin' Spurs? "hell he is not just quitting, he is attempting to tear down the entire edifice they built for the last two decades".."Who are these faggots?" :lol

[ducks]

Kawhi should just switch to using Rich Paul as his agent. I'm honestly so tired of hearing about this stupid drama continue to drag out. Just trade him for Ingram/Hart and move on already.

you do not have to come here to hear about it or turn on bsn

[Spurs9]

you do not have to come here to hear about it or turn on bsn
True, I mostly come back to see if hes actually been traded and then get sucked back into the drama :lol

[LkrFan]

Ok let’s say he did...why would you think he’d do such a thing?

Because he's an arrogant prick. He's short with reporters, he feels as if his shit don't stank. But that's just me.

The Admiral, Duncan, Elliott, Manu, TP - all of them were good soldiers that never crossed him. That gave him an air of invincibility. So for Kiwi to "have the nerve" to cross him took him by surprise. In his arrogance, he lost your franchise player
Sad, actually.

[MoSpur02]

I really wish Boston would step up their offer, but at this point who is gonna welcome this sort of person into their organization.

[DesignatedT]

Because he's an arrogant prick. He's short with reporters, he feels as if his shit don't stank. But that's just me.

The Admiral, Duncan, Elliott, Manu, TP - all of them were good soldiers that never crossed him. That gave him an air of invincibility. So for Kiwi to "have the nerve" to cross him took him by surprise. In his arrogance, he lost your franchise player
Sad, actually.

Solid 3/10.

[NickiRasgo]

I really wish Boston would step up their offer, but at this point who is gonna welcome this sort of person into their organization.

I do even prefer Lonzo Ball and his group (Lavar Ball) at the moment. Even how irritating is Lavar, I don't think he's messing around with Lakers' organization. He's actually entertaining to me tbh. He can say things (mostly annoying) what he wants but I don't think he's a problem to Lakers while on the other hand what he have, the silent one, he and his group is more cancerous that we didn't even expected.

[picnroll]

Because he's an arrogant prick. He's short with reporters, he feels as if his shit don't stank. But that's just me.

The Admiral, Duncan, Elliott, Manu, TP - all of them were good soldiers that never crossed him. That gave him an air of invincibility. So for Kiwi to "have the nerve" to cross him took him by surprise. In his arrogance, he lost your franchise player
Sad, actually.
I think you confused Pop with Philistine Jackson.

[lmbebo]

I do even prefer Lonzo Ball and his group (Lavar Ball) at the moment. Even how irritating is Lavar, I don't think he's messing around with Lakers' organization. He's actually entertaining to me tbh. He can say things (mostly annoying) what he wants but I don't think he's a problem to Lakers while on the other hand what he have, the silent one, he and his group is more cancerous that we didn't even expected.

But do you want to deal with LiAngelo and LaMelo and LaLavar ?

[bklynspursfan]

Waiting for the Kawhi defenders to spin him finding docs that wouldn't clear him and him being hidden from the Spurs personnel

[Hoops Czar]

I had no idea Jeff Ayres was playing for the Lakers Summer League squad. :lol

[cd98]

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If this is true, you can't supermax him. Too unpredictable with ownership. What a waste of a superstar. Maybe we do send him to the Lakers. Chances are this odd behavior is not isolated and he'll eventually mess up their franchise.

[CitizenDwayne]

Because he's an arrogant prick. He's short with reporters, he feels as if his shit don't stank. But that's just me.

The Admiral, Duncan, Elliott, Manu, TP - all of them were good soldiers that never crossed him. That gave him an air of invincibility. So for Kiwi to "have the nerve" to cross him took him by surprise. In his arrogance, he lost your franchise player
Sad, actually.
:lol Acting like kawhi’s some ballsy rebel. Dude’s a mute pussy getting exploited by his handlers. Doesn’t seem like arrogance; Pop’s just probably never had to deal with a functionally autistic player before

[tonight...you]

If this is true, you can't supermax him. Too unpredictable with ownership. What a waste of a superstar. Maybe we do send him to the Lakers. Chances are this odd behavior is not isolated and he'll eventually mess up their franchise.
This is what really sucks and the crux of it... they'll be fat and happy with the Lakers. This is a screw job on the grandest scale and other GM's know it. All the while Magic's smiling.

[marinoman]

Waiting for the Kawhi defenders to spin him finding docs that wouldn't clear him and him being hidden from the Spurs personnel
It seems there’s only one left, and he’s not really a spurs fan anyways, done deal

[coachmac87]

Because he's an arrogant prick. He's short with reporters, he feels as if his shit don't stank. But that's just me.

The Admiral, Duncan, Elliott, Manu, TP - all of them were good soldiers that never crossed him. That gave him an air of invincibility. So for Kiwi to "have the nerve" to cross him took him by surprise. In his arrogance, he lost your franchise player
Sad, actually.


That response shows why you’re an idiot

[NickiRasgo]

But do you want to deal with LiAngelo and LaMelo and LaLavar ?

I don't think Lavar would even mess with the Lakers to get those. Did we hear Lavar at the moment regarding LeBron and asking the Lakers to get Li'Angelo? I mean he's annoying but I don't think he's really means it. He even the said below before:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2753277-reggie-miller-rips-lavar-ball-says-liangelo-lamelo-have-no-shot-at-nba

I mean I get it it's Lavar but what the Spurs are currently dealing with Kawhi and his group, it's worse.

[Brazil]

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if true.. this is insane.. what the fuck

:lmao

[Chomag]

Apparently Kawhi and his camp hid from the Spurs while in NY per recent reports. Just when I though this cant get any better lol

(Edit- nvm I see it got posted above me)

[spurraider21]

I don't think Kawhi is the problem, its his psycho group.
bro, he's 27 years old. i know that to a degree you blame his handlers, but he's a fuckin adult. he's not some 17 year old out of high school rookie

[spurraider21]

but you have to believe that the resulting shit-show from this "power play" has to be degrading kawhi's trust in his group.

they probably convinced him "hey, do this, and we'll get you to LA, and you'll be happy"

now he's coming off looking like a bad guy, there is growing belief that he sat out despite being healthy, he isn't getting traded to LA, and is on the brink of losing out on a TON of money in the process. there's no way this is how they thought it would play out.

[Chomag]

Just :lmao

[Mugen]

but you have to believe that the resulting shit-show from this "power play" has to be degrading kawhi's trust in his group.

they probably convinced him "hey, do this, and we'll get you to LA, and you'll be happy"

now he's coming off looking like a bad guy, there is growing belief that he sat out despite being healthy, he isn't getting traded to LA, and is on the brink of losing out on a TON of money in the process. there's no way this is how they thought it would play out.

I wonder if his sister is getting him this info. His sister and mom have always seemed pro-Spursish. I wonder if that's what it's gonna take for him to realize what kind of shit he's in and off Uncle Dennis.

[RD2191]

bro, he's 27 years old. i know that to a degree you blame his handlers, but he's a fuckin adult. he's not some 17 year old out of high school rookie

I never said Kawhi wasn't partly responsible tbh. He's as much to blame as his dusty ass uncle.

[CitizenDwayne]

I wonder if his sister is getting him this info. His sister and mom have always seemed pro-Spursish. I wonder if that's what it's gonna take for him to realize what kind of shit he's in and off Uncle Dennis.
:lol So we’re at the point where we’re hoping our star player’s sister instills in him the strength and courage necessary to confront his domineering uncle?

Can’t wait for the 30 for 30

[lmbebo]

Why would they sequester kawhi from the spurs? Whats the point?

[Spurs da champs]

Why would they sequester kawhi from the spurs? Whats the point?

To hide the fact that his 'injury' was complete BS?

[Mugen]

Why would they sequester kawhi from the spurs? Whats the point?

Kawhi was probably chilling in the break room when he heard the Spurs showed up and got the f outta there :lol

Dude's been healthy all season.

[Hoops Czar]

I don't know why this is big news now, it was reported months ago when the incident actually happened.

[lmbebo]

To hide the fact that his 'injury' was complete BS?

So some office staff would be able to tell that in a hotel room?

[pad300]

I don't know why this is big news now, it was reported months ago when the incident actually happened.

Really, I never heard about it. Can you cite an article or other source that this has already been reported?

[Pavlov]

Man, that entire podcast is damning.

Surprised camp Kawhi didn't latch more onto Ginobli's quotes after the team photo, but I guess Tony's sound bite makes for an easier scapegoat.

[spurschamps99030507]

Bye bye fakers

Tom Haberstroh: So which team does Kawhi suit up for next year? Who do you think is the leader in the clubhouse to get his services?
Michael Wright: Well, contrary to, and I don’t know if it’s changed. I think that’s what happened. Things have changed. But the Lakers are not Kawhi’s preferred destination anymore. He wants to go to the Clippers. He doesn’t want to go and be second fiddle to LeBron. That’s what I was told. And it was by somebody that would know. And so right now, the Clippers are where he wants to go. But I’m also told, like you know, I talked to people within the Spurs organization and they’re like, ‘well yeah he wants to go to the Clippers, but their assets are shit at this point.’ That’s what I was told.

[LkrFan]

That response shows why you’re an idiot

Thanks coach. :lol

[RD2191]

Man, that entire podcast is damning.

Surprised camp Kawhi didn't latch more onto Ginobli's quotes after the team photo, but I guess Tony's sound bite makes for an easier scapegoat.

What did Manu say?

[Mr. Body]

Why would they sequester kawhi from the spurs? Whats the point?

To maintain control of the narrative.

[LkrFan]

:lol Acting like kawhi’s some ballsy rebel. Dude’s a mute pussy getting exploited by his handlers. Doesn’t seem like arrogance; Pop’s just probably never had to deal with a functionally autistic player before

:lol

[spursistan]

:lol Acting like kawhi’s some ballsy rebel. Dude’s a mute pussy getting exploited by his handlers. Doesn’t seem like arrogance; Pop’s just probably never had to deal with a functionally autistic player before
:lol

[Mr. Body]

Bye bye fakers

Tom Haberstroh: So which team does Kawhi suit up for next year? Who do you think is the leader in the clubhouse to get his services?
Michael Wright: Well, contrary to, and I don’t know if it’s changed. I think that’s what happened. Things have changed. But the Lakers are not Kawhi’s preferred destination anymore. He wants to go to the Clippers. He doesn’t want to go and be second fiddle to LeBron. That’s what I was told. And it was by somebody that would know. And so right now, the Clippers are where he wants to go. But I’m also told, like you know, I talked to people within the Spurs organization and they’re like, ‘well yeah he wants to go to the Clippers, but their assets are shit at this point.’ That’s what I was told.

Clippers assets really are fucking terrible. How do you get rid of two of your stars and have nothing?

[Pavlov]

What did Manu say?https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Ginobili-stresses-Spurs-can-t-be-fooled-again-12770463.php'

[BillMc]

Kawhi needs to give Uncle Dennis the "Fredo, you're nothing to me now" speech from Godfather Part II.

[LkrFan]

Solid 3/10.

Thanks. :lol I'll do better next time. How's this:

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:lmao

[Hoops Czar]

Really, I never heard about it. Can you cite an article or other source that this has already been reported?
I don't know if it was published. It was just stated on ESPN, Fox Sports or some other news outlet I was listening to at the time that the Spurs sent a couple of representatives to New York to check in on Kawhi during his rehab stint and his entourage wouldn't let them anywhere near him.

[spurraider21]

Thanks. :lol I'll do better next time. How's this:

1014975596504510465

:lmao
well... i think its pretty clear the spurs are leaking this. doing PR work. but kawhi will know that, and he's gonna realize they're throwing him under the bus. i'm not sure what leaking this actually accomplishes

[marinoman]

Thanks. :lol I'll do better next time. How's this:

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:lmao
What do you think we’ve been talking about the last few pages joto, keep up

[daslicer]

Kawhi was probably chilling in the break room when he heard the Spurs showed up and got the f outta there :lol

Dude's been healthy all season.

Yup I never bought that he was ever not healthy. I remember watching him in the games he played and I felt at times he was just holding back at going at it 100 percent but felt he could if he wanted to. The last 2 games I saw him play he looked close to 100 percent. The only thing that showed was that he was rusty. It's amazing after how great he played in his last 2 games that his camp immediately pulled the plug on him from playing the rest of the year because they feared most likely they would lose control of the situation.

[BatManu20]

Spurs PR finally growing a pair and pushing back. Expose his uncle for the fraud he is tbh.

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[Gino20]

He probably saw the crap that the Lakers surrounded LBJ with and said, "fuck that!".

[BillMc]

Kawhi's talent is all that's saving him.

Can you imagine if say Matt Bonner or Roger Mason and their groups acted like this? Spurs would punt them in a second, maybe even sue them. Kawhi is lucky he's so good. Second his game deteriorate. Uncle D and the groupies in for a rude surprise.

[Marcus Bryant]

Kawhi was probably chilling in the break room when he heard the Spurs showed up and got the f outta there :lol

Dude's been healthy all season.

And I'm sure the entire league is aware.

[BatManu20]

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[BlackSilver]

This just keeps getting weirder.

[apalisoc_9]

Called it

A 100 pages ago I said Clippers was the desired destination but cats here are jealous.

[LkrFan]

What do you think we’ve been talking about the last few pages joto, keep up

:lol

You are assuming I've read this entire 433+ page thread. I'm haven't tbh.

[Mugen]

Trade is incoming tbh. If the Spurs are leaking this, they know that the relationship is about to end.

[Pavlov]

Called it

A 100 pages ago I said Clippers was the desired destination but cats here are jealous.I said that before the draft.

So what?

[ginobilized]

The plot is looking much more murky for Kawhi. What a shame. This looks to be a very expensive lesson for the young man.
I'm not really seeing much fault on the Spurs here.........beyond the Mills and Gasol contracts.

It seems like a standoff and I'd bet on the Spurs to hold steadier than a 27 yr old sole client of Impact Sports. There have been some real bone-headed moves from his "group."
Kawhi is the one over playing his hand, not the Spurs.

[baseline bum]

If this is true, you can't supermax him. Too unpredictable with ownership. What a waste of a superstar. Maybe we do send him to the Lakers. Chances are this odd behavior is not isolated and he'll eventually mess up their franchise.

If that's the truth you tell him to come to camp so that he retires and loses out on $20.9 million.

[Marcus Bryant]

:lol Acting like kawhi’s some ballsy rebel. Dude’s a mute pussy getting exploited by his handlers. Doesn’t seem like arrogance; Pop’s just probably never had to deal with a functionally autistic player before

It's a lazy take and troll. Yeah 70 year old white coach with military background can't get along with twenty-something black guy.

[CitizenDwayne]

Welp lets give a warm welcome to Tobias Harris! He needs a thread, perhaps the Haberdashery of Harris?

[cd98]

To be honest, this story explains a lot about what's been going on. I'm sure there are petty excuses that Kawhi's group can come up with about how Pop runs the show or how the Spurs organization is too strict or even misdiagnosis. But hiding from the Spurs is a low that is inexplicable. I've never heard of a player under contract hiding from an organization. It was odd that he was rehabbing in NY to begin with, but once this story comes into play along with Pop's comments from way back, it's clear that Kawhi had become unpredictable and dealing with him was a combustible situation.

[RD2191]

https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Ginobili-stresses-Spurs-can-t-be-fooled-again-12770463.php'

:tu thanks

[Budkin]

well... i think its pretty clear the spurs are leaking this. doing PR work. but kawhi will know that, and he's gonna realize they're throwing him under the bus. i'm not sure what leaking this actually accomplishes

Michael Wright "leaked" this, not the Spurs FO.

[Hoops Czar]

What would the Spurs have to gain from leaking this? It gives them even less leverage.

[spursistan]

Trade is incoming tbh. If the Spurs are leaking this, they know that the relationship is about to end.
With whom? for what crap?

Nah, seems to me like they are gonna hardball it with thee faggots: "You said you're close to 100%, see you in training camp, then"..

[Budkin]

Welp lets give a warm welcome to Tobias Harris! He needs a thread, perhaps the Haberdashery of Harris?

Fuck that guy, I followed him when he was on the Magic, he's not good.

[BillMc]

Spurs PR finally growing a pair and pushing back. Expose his uncle for the fraud he is tbh.

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All actions are justified because Pop sounded sarcastic and Tony said his injury was worse. Spurs are just mean. :lol

[BlackSilver]

Spurs PR finally growing a pair and pushing back. Expose his uncle for the fraud he is tbh.

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You may be right, but this one makes it seem like something Mike Wright has known about for a long time and is choosing to reveal now. The big question is, why "bottle up a lot of wild Kawhi/Spurs stories?" What kind of reporter holds back juicy scoops?

[LkrFan]

well... i think its pretty clear the spurs are leaking this. doing PR work. but kawhi will know that, and he's gonna realize they're throwing him under the bus. i'm not sure what leaking this actually accomplishes

Agreed. This doesn't help them save face either. It's a bat signal to future stars: if you don't stay in line, we'll embarrass you.

Not a good look tbh. Shaq trashed the Lakers and Kobe on his way out. He still got his number retired and a statue outside of Staples. The Lakers know how to treat stars, even if the star trashed them publicly. Probably a major reason why Lebron left $50 million on the table to play with a non-playoff unproven roster on a multi-year deal. Surprised the shit out of me. :lol

[marinoman]

I said that before the draft.

So what?
Done deal, I have receipts :lol

[MoSpur02]

Called it

A 100 pages ago I said Clippers was the desired destination but cats here are jealous.

You didn't say it was his preferred destination. You said it was a done deal and he was on a plane heading there.

[r0drig0lac]

Welp lets give a warm welcome to Tobias Harris! He needs a thread, perhaps the Haberdashery of Harris?

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[AFBlue]

Smith is 6’ 3”

6'4 with a 6'10 wingspan. Not an "on the ball" offensive player and capable of handling three positions defensively. Stick him at SF alongside a couple shooters in the backcourt and he'll be just fine.

[apalisoc_9]

Spurs dont know how to treat modern stars tbh

[Spurs da champs]

Spurs dont know how to treat modern stars tbh

Stfu