Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[daslicer]

True, assuming no red flags with his 'injury' that's a straightforward major negative. The holdout threat was dumb, which is of course why they got Smith to say it.

Is he truly that miserable in SA? If so it would've gotten long before this year. All reports I've seen is that he spends all day in San Diego in the summer in the gym anyways. We all understand the allure of home, but still.

I have been to Kawhi's home town Moreno Valley a bunch of times since I have cousins that live there. It's a small town about an hour and half outside of LA. It's a pretty boring and dull place to live. That's why I don't get why Kawhi would not be comfortable in SA since he's super introverted and grew up in a place that's even more quite than SA.

[Chinook]

True, assuming no red flags with his 'injury' that's a straightforward major negative. The holdout threat was dumb, which is of course why they got Smith to say it.

Is he truly that miserable in SA? If so it would've gotten long before this year. All reports I've seen is that he spends all day in San Diego in the summer in the gym anyways. We all understand the allure of home, but still.

Pretty sure they weren't the ones who "leaked" the holdout stuff to SAS. I think that was Magic hardcore tampering again. I'm really surprised at how little folks have been talking about what Magic has been doing for the last year or so. It didn't stop with PG.

[gambit1990]

don't want irving, don't want hayward, don't want deng.

can't speak to fultz, can't even remember watching him play this past season.

[MoSpur02]

So Chandler is on his way to Philly. Does that mean they are giving up on Kawhi?

[MoSpur02]

It's a done deal per Woj.

[tonight...you]

Permaban
Ha ha ha!!!

[LkrFan]

This may cost RC leverage:

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Thanks Nuggs :tu

[CitizenDwayne]

So Chandler is on his way to Philly. Does that mean they are giving up on Kawhi?
They were never really that interested, if they wouldn’t even part with Markelle fucking Fultz

[HarlemHeat37]

So Chandler is on his way to Philly. Does that mean they are giving up on Kawhi?

That would be a weird decision, since Wilson Chandler is coming off a bad season and is in his 30s, he shouldn't be an NBA starter..maybe they're that stupid, though:lol

[Chinook]

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interested in who they send out, if it's just Bayless and a pick that might signal a Kawhi trade tbh....

I doubt it's Bayless AND a pick. I imagine it's for cap space and Denver sends a pick. If this has anything to do with a Kawhi trade, it's about getting another asset for Leonard and a new source of ballast rather than Covington or Bayless. But it likely isn't about Leonard, at least not in a way that makes a trade more likely.

[tonight...you]

So Chandler is on his way to Philly. Does that mean they are giving up on Kawhi?
NVM

[gambit1990]

spurs should be exploring kawhi + la trade possibilities.

[MoSpur02]

I have heard some info regarding Kawhi. Supposedly Pop will meet/talk with Kawhi again.

[Chinook]

That would be a weird decision, since Wilson Chandler is coming off a bad season and is in his 30s..maybe they're that stupid, though:lol

It might be, but I think they would gladly move him and Bayless and keep Covignton. Getting Chandler should not cost them anything.

[RD2191]

They limited his options. They are obsessed with endorsements so any top 10 market should have been good enough for them. Goes to show you how stupid they are. Playing for a legendary organization such as the Celtics,Sixers will get you endorsements. Hell they could have floated rumors about Kawhi wanting to play for the Knicks or Nets. NYC is ripe for a superstar talent and the market is even better then LA. They are clearly a stupid bunch of people.

Pretty much. Not to mention that he'd be the face of whichever eastern team he'd join. That combined with making conference finals/finals would really expand his "brand". If he goes to LA he'll alway be number 2 to LBJ. Bunch of amateurs.

[HarlemHeat37]

It might be, but I think they would gladly move him and Bayless and keep Covignton. Getting Chandler should not cost them anything.

Ya, I meant I don't think acquiring Chandler has anything to do with Kawhi from a potential replacement standpoint..

[tonight...you]

I have heard some info regarding Kawhi. Supposedly Pop will meet/talk with Kawhi again.
Well sheet, they gon' be on the same court in a couple weeks... I'm sure Kawhi's little heart be beating like a scared child already.
He got that nervous pit in his stomach.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Pretty much. Not to mention that he'd be the face of whichever eastern team he'd join. That combined with making conference finals/finals would really expand his "brand". If he goes to LA he'll alway be number 2 to LBJ. Bunch of amateurs.

With his personality type, I think KL is ok being #2.

[lmbebo]

I have heard some info regarding Kawhi. Supposedly Pop will meet/talk with Kawhi again.

3 weeks with team USA practice?

[RD2191]

With his personality type, I think KL is ok being #2.

I always heard he wanted to be an MVP and an MJ type player. #2's don't win MVP's, especially now that it's essentially a media award. Who knows what he really wants though.

[Marcus Bryant]

I have been to Kawhi's home town Moreno Valley a bunch of times since I have cousins that live there. It's a small town about an hour and half outside of LA. It's a pretty boring and dull place to live. That's why I don't get why Kawhi would not be comfortable in SA since he's super introverted and grew up in a place that's even more quite than SA.

:tu

This begins and ends with his reps, at least the impetus to try to force a move. Pop's not coaching forever and hey, if he can get paid and just live there year round why not?

[dbestpro]

If the 76ers fall of the trade table then the Clippers move to the front. Tobias Harris, sign and trade Harrell, and a couple of first round picks might do the trick. Sending him to the Clips keeps the talent spread out rather than concentrated with the Lakers and gives the Spurs an outside chance of being competitive with superior game planning. Gallinari could get thrown into the pot but Gasol's contract might have to be moved along with others. If Leonard struggles or if he is an army of one at all those picks could go lottery.

[diceman]

I have heard some info regarding Kawhi. Supposedly Pop will meet/talk with Kawhi again.

Any other insight? Communication between those two is good, although I guess it could be a goodbye....

[Marcus Bryant]

This may cost RC leverage:

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Thanks Nuggs :tu


Oh, you think RC actually intends to do a deal?

[weebo]

Leonard is going to end up re signing with the spurms. End of story.

[LkrFan]

Oh, you think RC actually intends to do a deal?

Yes, I do. It remains to be seen if it is with the Lakers. The longer he lets this drag out the worst returns I think you guys will get.

Stay tuned. :)

[MoSpur02]

3 weeks with team USA practice?

No. Before.

[baseline bum]

In the words of DJ Khaled, congratulations, you played yourself.

I thought that was Ice-T.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUvAA1rnknI

[tonight...you]

Leonard is going to end up re signing with the spurms. End of story.

[RD2191]

I thought that was Ice-T.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUvAA1rnknI

It's possible.

[Marcus Bryant]

With his personality type, I think KL is ok being #2.

True, my armchair psychological expertise leads me to believe at this point he's likely tired of it, this has taken a life of its own that he didn't expect, and he'd rather just get back to being able to play in the limelight, yet still under the radar. Whatever his relationship is with his uncle, it's hard for him to say no to him or disagree.

[look_at_g_shred]

No. Before.
Where did you hear that?

[baseline bum]

Yes, I do. It remains to be seen if it is with the Lakers. The longer he lets this drag out the worst returns I think you guys will get.

Stay tuned. :)

Hard to get much worse than the Lakers crap.

[Marcus Bryant]

Yes, I do. It remains to be seen if it is with the Lakers. The longer he lets this drag out the worst returns I think you guys will get.

Stay tuned. :)


Good luck with that.

[objective]

Chandler will be eligible to trade at the deadline and help Philly take on Mills if that's what the Spurs are looking for and if they get any picks from Denver if this is a straight dump that's just more assets to send to the Spurs at the deadline

[monkeypunk]

Leonard is going to end up re signing with the spurms. End of story.

I hope so. Kawhi, if healthy, is far better than anything we can get for him.

As for the fans, winning solves all things so getting back to contention should alleviate the butthurt.

Unless you're Tholdren or whoever that racist dude is. Can't turn Kawhi white, :lol

[MoSpur02]

Where did you hear that?

I can't say. Not trying to be a douche, but I wouldn't want this person to get in trouble.

[Baam]

Like Chinook said, maybe Sixers are set on keeping Covington since they didn't get LeBron... And Chandler is just filler. I hope as I'm rooting for a Fultz centered package.

[rjv]

chandler is an unrestricted free agent next summer, btw.

[MoSpur02]

I hope this meeting or talk that will take place works to convince him to stay. Im disappointed in Kawhi for causing all this, but I can't deny that he can flat out ball. One of the best. So my first choice is to keep him.

[tonight...you]

Like Chinook said, maybe Sixers are set on keeping Covington since they didn't get LeBron... And Chandler is just filler. I hope as I'm rooting for a Fultz centered package.
Fultz? Why?

[Marcus Bryant]

Hard to get much worse than the Lakers crap.

Yeah, when it's a nickel or else, what, exactly? He holds out and the Spurs get to fine and suspend him and not pay him?

Players walk in free agency all the time. At this point the franchise will get little blowback from the fanbase if that happens.

What's the "or else" tbh?

[tonight...you]

Yeah, when it's a nickel or else, what, exactly? He holds out and the Spurs get to fine and suspend him and not pay him?

Players walk in free agency all the time. At this point the franchise will get little blowback from the fanbase if that happens.

What's the "or else" tbh?
This goes the distance, him and his "group" will cave. They're a group of goobers who don't know what they're doing and Pop is maintaining a strong stance. As he should.
Like he said to Aldridge: I'd trade you for Durant, I'd drive you to the airport, but that ain't happening. Here's the deal...

[buttsR4rebounding]

I wonder what today brings in free agency or trades.

Sixers acquiring Chandler and a 1st round pick from Denver.

[Marcus Bryant]

If the Spurs don't find a trade they like, a "top 20 player" in return, then Kawhi Leonard will be in training camp. There's no way at this point he's not going to play for them next year, he's gotta get back on a NBA court and prove that he is indeed "100% healthy" and prove to the league that he can still actually play. Especially with that amount of $ on the line.

[lmbebo]

Sixers acquiring Chandler and a 1st round pick from Denver.

Maybe to add to a Kawhi package?

1st from Denver and 1st from Miami?

[DJR210]

Kawhi is cornered now. Either sit 2 years of your prime or bring us a great deal.

Gonna be hilarious when Magic doesn't answer's uncle Dennis' phone because LeBron likes Lonzo and Kuzma and he has to beg Philly after all.

If he sits next year he actually he loses his ability to opt out the following year under the CBA.. He would owe us another year for failing to meet his contractual obligation. However, things change when you have an "injured player". Things could get pretty ugly in arbitration if Unc and his Sister decide he's going to go that route..

[Spurs da champs]

Maybe to add to a Kawhi package?

1st from Denver and 1st from Miami?

Denver pick is a 2021 2nd rounder iirc.

[MoSpur02]

Sixers acquiring Chandler and a 1st round pick from Denver.

:lol
Along with Raul Neto stays in Utah and Tyreke signs with Indiana.

[LkrFan]

Hard to get much worse than the Lakers crap.

The Lakers could have a prime Shaq, Kobe, and Wilt on the trading block and you'd say we got trash players. I get it. :lol

[SAGirl]

Come next trade deadline, as of now the Spurs will have ~$24 mil in expirings. Should be useful.

Green $10 mil
Gay $10 mil
Ginobili $2.5 mil
Paul $1.4 mil
Since Gay signed a 1 year deal it's my understanding that he can't get traded without his consent. I think the same would be true for any of the current RFA if they just signed their QO.

But they do have Pau Gasol with only a partial guarantee of $6 mill for the season after this one.

[tonight...you]

The Lakers could have a prime Shaq, Kobe, and Wilt on the trading block and you'd say we got trash players. I get it. :lol
What? There are comparable players to them (besides Lebron) on your team to offer?

[Spurs da champs]

The Lakers could have a prime Shaq, Kobe, and Wilt on the trading block and you'd say we got trash players. I get it. :lol

That's facts, Fultz, Saric, & Covington package is garbage, 2021 Miami 1st rounder is not guarantee of a lottery pick.

[Marcus Bryant]

This goes the distance, him and his "group" will cave. They're a group of goobers who don't know what they're doing and Pop is maintaining a strong stance. As he should.
Like he said to Aldridge: I'd trade you for Durant, I'd drive you to the airport, but that ain't happening. Here's the deal...

True. If your plan B to getting bank relies on the party you just threw the kitchen sink at in chasing your plan A agreeing to pay you $221 million American, which had little to no chance of success, you might rethink what you're doing.

[tonight...you]

That's facts, Fultz, Saric, & Covington package is garbage, 2021 Miami 1st rounder is not guarantee of a lottery pick.
What's really gross is it looked like Pop and that other guy, with the glasses, were about ready to cave for Philly's schmucks and some low-rent 1st rounders.
And that couldn't even get done!

Keep the dude. He's healthy and doing his thing - pay him. Otherwise everybody, including Kawhi, can fuck themselves into oblivion and see how far that gets you.

[Marcus Bryant]

Maybe to add to a Kawhi package?

1st from Denver and 1st from Miami?

Is Chandler a top 20 player?

[Mugen]

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:lol this f'n clown

[eDizzle20]

I’m starting to believe that the Spurs really do believe they can work things out with Kawhi. A number of things need to be worked out though...

•PATFO apologizing for unsupportive comments throughout last season
•Parker is gone (his quote was taken out of context, but I believe they had rocky relationship regardless)
•Kawhi’s medical treatment will exclusively be handled by his doctors
•Kawhi is consulted regarding player personnel decisions
•supermax extension (he’s in his prime and is unwilling to take a discount)...

With that being said the Spurs will not offer him the supermax this offseason, but if he’s the same ole Kawhi and requalifies they will next offseason as an UFA. If LeBron can make up with Dan Gilbert like he did the 2nd go around in Cleveland anything is possible. It’s a lot, but Kawhi is arguably a top 3 player when healthy. PATFO realizes knows that and will definitely not take unacceptable offers. This isn’t Tim Duncan. Kawhi needs a lot more catering.

[baseline bum]

If he sits next year he actually he loses his ability to opt out the following year under the CBA.. He would owe us another year for failing to meet his contractual obligation. However, things change when you have an "injured player". Things could get pretty ugly in arbitration if Unc and his Sister decide he's going to go that route..

He can file retirement papers to get out of the contract and he would then be a free agent in a year.

[Marcus Bryant]

Since Gay signed a 1 year deal it's my understanding that he can't get traded without his consent. I think the same would be true for any of the current RFA if they just signed their QO.

But they do have Pau Gasol with only a partial guarantee of $6 mill for the season after this one.

:tu So potentially even more.

[tonight...you]

True. If your plan B to getting bank relies on the party you just threw the kitchen sink at in chasing your plan A agreeing to pay you $221 million American, which had little to no chance of success, you might rethink what you're doing.
Done deal... :smokin

[Marcus Bryant]

He can file retirement papers to get out of the contract and he would then be a free agent in a year.

Shit, add $40 mil to potentially the, what, $120 mil from the supermax he'd lose eligibility for? I assume if he filed for reinstatement then he would maintain his service status as of the day he 'retired'.

So $160 mil in the hole, and being out of the game for a year you expect to come back and get a max deal? People will have forgotten he ever played. Honestly they would have by now except for all the bullshit drama.

[tonight...you]

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:lol this f'n clown
To quote Apalisoc:
Done deal.
He's a Spur. I heard it from Apa's aunt. She was... decent.

[Clipper Nation]

The Lakers could have a prime Shaq, Kobe, and Wilt on the trading block and you'd say we got trash players. I get it. :lol

:lol Instead, you have a prime Ingram (eww) and Lonzo Bust on the trading block. In other words: trash.

[weebo]

I hope so. Kawhi, if healthy, is far better than anything we can get for him.

As for the fans, winning solves all things so getting back to contention should alleviate the butthurt.

Unless you're Tholdren or whoever that racist dude is. Can't turn Kawhi white, :lol

$80m is a lot of money to turn down.

[r0drig0lac]

I have heard some info regarding Kawhi. Supposedly Pop will meet/talk with Kawhi again.

humm

[marinoman]

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:lol this f'n clown
Every reporter has different takes. Hard to know the truth and he won’t talk

[tonight...you]

humm
He's only about to be coached by Pop in less than 3 weeks...
That should go smoothly.

[baseline bum]

The Lakers could have a prime Shaq, Kobe, and Wilt on the trading block and you'd say we got trash players. I get it. :lol

You're arguing like a Trumptard saying everyone would be against his healthcare plan if it was universal full coverage and cost $1. If you had drafted Tatum most of the forum would be good with trading Leonard, but instead you have a couple of hands full of shit that you're calling gold.

[tonight...you]

You're arguing like a Trumptard saying everyone would be against his healthcare plan if it was universal full coverage and cost $1. If you had drafted Tatum most of the forum would be good with trading Leonard, but instead you have a couple of hands full of shit that you're calling gold.
Oh my gosh... my own sister argues like that.
I don't really blame her. She's an abused woman that goes back to her abuser.

[DJR210]

He can file retirement papers to get out of the contract and he would then be a free agent in a year.

:lol at that point you send a squad of Orejones to deal with him

"Accordingly, such a player shall not be a Veteran Free Agent and shall not be entitled to negotiate or sign a Player Contract with any other professional basketball team unless and until the Team for which the player last played expressly agrees otherwise" - CBA excerpt regarding "withholding services"

So I'm wondering if that bold verbiage means period as far as his next team, or only if it's during the duration of what the contract was supposed to be..

[RD2191]

You're arguing like a Trumptard saying everyone would be against his healthcare plan if it was universal full coverage and cost $1. If you had drafted Tatum most of the forum would be good with trading Leonard, but instead you have a couple of hands full of shit that you're calling gold.

:lmao

[Marcus Bryant]

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:lol this f'n clown

All them clowns.

We want a trade.
We so injured because they fucked up we got a new doctor.
We ain't got time to watch the playoffs we gotta rehab.
We want a trade to the Lakers.
Oh wait, we 100% healthy.
Maybe we want a trade to other teams.
We will only re-sign with the Lakers next year.
We will holdout this bitch.
Magic got damn trade what they want.
Ok, Clippers it is.

[lmbebo]

Is Chandler a top 20 player?

Wasn't looking at Chandler .. Just the 1st from Denver.

[DJR210]

Oh my gosh... my own sister argues like that.
I don't really blame her. She's an abused woman that goes back to her abuser.

You sit back and let some guy abuse your sister? What a pussy :lol

[RD2191]

Oh my gosh... my own sister argues like that.
I don't really blame her. She's an abused woman that goes back to her abuser.

Tell her I said what's up.

[rjv]

To quote Apalisoc:
Done deal.
He's a Spur. I heard it from Apa's aunt. She was... decent.

whether true or not, fans at least are getting this perception that leonard is just odd. even the ESPN crew the other day was talking about just how hard it is to conduct an interview with him and how there really is no way to read him.

[RD2191]

You sit back and let some guy abuse your sister? What a pussy :lol

What's he got to gain? Get his ass shot and she still goes back to him?

[RD2191]

whether true or not, fans at least are getting this perception that leonard is just odd. even the ESPN crew the other day was talking about just how hard it is to conduct an interview with him and how there really is no way to read him.

As I said before, assburgers.

[DJR210]

What's he got to gain? Get his ass shot and she still goes back to him?

:lol How long have you been fucking his sister?

[rude1_79]

Since forever, the people that used to manage Carter manage Kawhi now, or something along those lines. Carter has been constantly sending the messages that Kawhi's camp wants to send.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8zjLj7NaWo

carter going on and on, sounding like hes spoken to kawaii recently. "im gonna tell you what kawaii thinks ..."

[RD2191]

:lol How long have you been fucking his sister?

No comment :wakeup

[clambake]

kawhi for lebron.

[MoSpur02]

I'll be glad if he remains a Spur, but after almost 400 pages, all the rumors, and drama, I'm gonna be like, all that just for him to stay?

[Mr. Body]

I'll be glad if he remains a Spur, but after almost 400 pages, all the rumors, and drama, I'm gonna be like, all that just for him to stay?

I called him staying about 250 pages ago.

[Russ]

If you had drafted Tatum most of the forum would be good with trading Leonard, but instead you have a couple of hands full of shit that you're calling gold.

I think Ingram and Ball (for trade value) would be a pretty good deal.

I think Ingram has a lot of potential with coaching and culture (none of which the Lakers have provided).

Ball should be at least be worth a good draft pick.

If you can get Leonard to return and actually play, I'd probably favor that. But if the Lakers are offering Ingram (and Kawhi is definitely gone), you probably should do it.

But the Lakers likely won't offer Ingram so it may be moot.

[SAGirl]

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:lol this f'n clown
he's butthurt Lebron told the Lakers to hold on to their young players. :lol

[RD2191]

I'll be glad if he remains a Spur, but after almost 400 pages, all the rumors, and drama, I'm gonna be like, all that just for him to stay?

Who cares? Gives us something to shit post about. This is the most exciting thing to happen to the Spurs since Duncan was flirting with Orlando. :lol

[mo7888]

I keep seeing all of these reports saying that I'm not sure pop is ready to trade him. This keeps coming from different sources around the league. It has me thinking that maybe the reason a Brandon Ingram or a markelle fultz isn't included in the package is because the Spurs haven't said we will take that package? Why would Philly offer up fultz if they weren't sure we would take the package, because it just makes them look bad in fultz's as eyes of he stays in philly. You only offer him up if the Spurs say they will take him. So I don't think pop has actually said, Philadelphia we will trade Kawhi to you for this package or Boston we will trade kawhi to you for this particular package the same with the Lakers or anybody else. I don't think we've actually decided we want to trade him and if we put that offer on the table then we're obligated to do so if they pull the trigger. I think that's kind of where things stand.

[tonight...you]

You sit back and let some guy abuse your sister? What a pussy :lol
Not quite. They were in New York and I was in LA.
She told me what was up and I offered to send some hurt his way.

She told me no. No way.

I did anyway.
She stuck to him like flypaper.
Time for you to make your own mistakes and live with them, sis.
I gave you your shot.

But continue to assume and insult, schmuck.


Edit: I was 20, she was 31. At some point...

[RD2191]

he's butthurt Lebron told the Lakers to hold on to their young players. :lol

Didn't someone else claim he called LeBron to see if they could team up? Conflicting reports for sure.

[lmbebo]

I keep seeing all of these reports saying that I'm not sure pop is ready to trade him. This keeps coming from different sources around the league. It has me thinking that maybe the reason a Brandon Ingram or a markelle fultz isn't included in the package is because the Spurs haven't said we will take that package? Why would Philly offer up fultz if they weren't sure we would take the package, because it just makes them look bad in fultz's as eyes of he stays in philly. You only offer him up if the Spurs say they will take him. So I don't think pop has actually said, Philadelphia we will trade Kawhi to you for this package or Boston we will trade kawhi to you for this particular package the same with the Lakers or anybody else. I don't think we've actually decided we want to trade him and if we put that offer on the table then we're obligated to do so if they pull the trigger. I think that's kind of where things stand.

Sounds about the most logical thing I've read in 50+ pages...

[RD2191]

Sounds about the most logical thing I've read in 50+ pages...

We want conspiracies dammit. :pctoss

[SpursDynasty85]

Didn't someone else claim he called LeBron to see if they could team up? Conflicting reports for sure.

He might've only for Lebron to tell Lakers not trade all their assets for Kawhi. Might've pissed him off because Kawhi's just as stuck as the Spurs.

[rjv]

Sounds about the most logical thing I've read in 50+ pages...

you mean the who is banging whose sister posts aren't newsworthy?

[tonight...you]

Tell her I said what's up.
I hope your insurance covered your teeth.
That's generally tricky.

And please stop thumping that Bible, would you?

[rjv]

I keep seeing all of these reports saying that I'm not sure pop is ready to trade him. This keeps coming from different sources around the league. It has me thinking that maybe the reason a Brandon Ingram or a markelle fultz isn't included in the package is because the Spurs haven't said we will take that package? Why would Philly offer up fultz if they weren't sure we would take the package, because it just makes them look bad in fultz's as eyes of he stays in philly. You only offer him up if the Spurs say they will take him. So I don't think pop has actually said, Philadelphia we will trade Kawhi to you for this package or Boston we will trade kawhi to you for this particular package the same with the Lakers or anybody else. I don't think we've actually decided we want to trade him and if we put that offer on the table then we're obligated to do so if they pull the trigger. I think that's kind of where things stand.

it does make sense. after all, when a source leaks out an offer the source never says who actually made the offer. from what i gather this just goes back to the spurs are listening but not shopping theory. the last thing we have heard from anyone was when RC (post Pop meeting) that they would make bringing him back the priority but that they would explore all options. the media has been the one that has been filling in all of the other speculation.

[FkLA]

I have heard some info regarding Kawhi. Supposedly Pop will meet/talk with Kawhi again.

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[tonight...you]

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Apa said: Done deal.

[look_at_g_shred]

https://media.giphy.com/media/9y81i7SFuzhW8/giphy.gif
Kawhieachal :cry

[spurraider21]

I have heard some info regarding Kawhi. Supposedly Pop will meet/talk with Kawhi again.
sauces?

[RD2191]

sauces?

BBQ and ranch imo

[cd98]

So Kawhi thinks that if he plays with the Clippers, all the NBA players will flock to Clipperland to play with him? Well, that didn't happen in S.A. The free agents that came here wanted to be coached by Pop. LMA was recruited by Patty and Tim. I think he has a false sense of his perception around the league. LeBron has pulled free agents to both Miami and Cleveland. Maybe players will go to the Clippers because they want to live in LA, but I doubt their coming because they like Kawhi. He seems like to much of a loner.

[tonight...you]

sauces?
Their converging for Olympic practices...\

That should be fun!!!

[tonight...you]

BBQ and ranch imo
Only sauces worth considering...

[tonight...you]

So Kawhi thinks that if he plays with the Clippers, all the NBA players will flock to Clipperland to play with him? Well, that didn't happen in S.A. The free agents that came here wanted to be coached by Pop. LMA was recruited by Patty and Tim. I think he has a false sense of his perception around the league. LeBron has pulled free agents to both Miami and Cleveland. Maybe players will go to the Clippers because they want to live in LA, but I doubt their coming because they like Kawhi. He seems like to much of a loner.
Kawhi doesn't think...

[MoSpur02]

BBQ and ranch imo

Honey mustard

[TheGreatYacht]

So Kawhi thinks that if he plays with the Clippers, all the NBA players will flock to Clipperland to play with him? Well, that didn't happen in S.A. The free agents that came here wanted to be coached by Pop. LMA was recruited by Patty and Tim. I think he has a false sense of his perception around the league. LeBron has pulled free agents to both Miami and Cleveland. Maybe players will go to the Clippers because they want to live in LA, but I doubt their coming because they like Kawhi. He seems like to much of a loner.
Players came here because they were tired old shitbags looking for one big final payday. That, and because Tim duncan.

[lmbebo]

Honey mustard

Schezuan sauce from McDonalds > Ranch > BBQ..

[SpursDynasty85]

So Kawhi thinks that if he plays with the Clippers, all the NBA players will flock to Clipperland to play with him? Well, that didn't happen in S.A. The free agents that came here wanted to be coached by Pop. LMA was recruited by Patty and Tim. I think he has a false sense of his perception around the league. LeBron has pulled free agents to both Miami and Cleveland. Maybe players will go to the Clippers because they want to live in LA, but I doubt their coming because they like Kawhi. He seems like to much of a loner.

Kawhi was definitely a big factor in LMA signing though. Kawhi was just too quiet to help recruit.

[MoSpur02]

Actually that Chick File A sauce is really good

[sammy]

BBQ and ranch imo

Cheese sauce from Wendy’s!:bobo

[lmbebo]

Cheese sauce from Wendy’s!:bobo


Wendy's has a cheese sauce? Always liked the cheese at Fuddruckers ...

[tonight...you]

Honey mustard
That's good too. Gotta vouch.

[RD2191]

Now I'm getting hungry.

[Dre_7]

Now I'm getting hungry.

Same

[apalisoc_9]

Done deal. Kawhi Going to LA.

[Dverde]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8zjLj7NaWo

carter going on and on, sounding like hes spoken to kawaii recently. "im gonna tell you what kawaii thinks ..."

This video makes me ill. Kawhi being told he is better than Lebron. All hope lost for him.

[Pavlov]

Done deal. Kawhi Going to LA.Which LA team?

For what?

[TekXX]

Done deal. Kawhi Going to LA.

Your pinoy mom is going to LA

[MoSpur02]

Done deal. Kawhi Going to LA.

Wrong.

[tonight...you]

Which LA team?

For what?
Futile battle. Give up.

[spurraider21]

Done deal. Kawhi Going to LA.
:lol trying to play off the cisneros reveal

[BatManu20]

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[MoSpur02]

:lol trying to play off the cisneros reveal

:lmao:lmao

[MoSpur02]

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Gortat replacement

[r0drig0lac]

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[MoSpur02]

Wonder why we're not hearing more about Butler for Kawhi rumblings. I know both teams are in the same boat basically, but I would've thought the media would've ran with this.

[MoSpur02]

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Just repeating what he heard from Carter.

[GB20]

Which LA team?

For what?
L.A Sparks

[apalisoc_9]

:lol trying to play off the cisneros reveal

I'm not Mexican tbh.

[BatManu20]

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[spurraider21]

I'm not Mexican tbh.
his twitter magically went private in the following minutes :lmao

[TD 21]

Chandler makes sense for the 76ers. They needed another combo forward, specifically to fill the backup PF hole vacated by Ilyasova . . . he could also make sense as insurance in a Leonard trade, if both Covington and Saric are moved in it.

I doubt that'll happen though. Spurs need to hold out for Fultz and they probably wouldn't trade all 3.

Saric is probably the one the Spurs like the most, but he's the one they should be willing to concede on (in place of the '21 Heat 1st), if push comes to shove. Covington would fill more of a need.

Not that PF is well setup going forward, but they could get by with a combination of Gay, Anderson and Bertans for the next 2-3 seasons. They could also shop Murray to the Nuggets for Hernangomez, a lesser version of Saric. Incidentally, despite his brother being a C, Murray to the Hornets for their Hernangomez could also make sense.

[FkLA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8zjLj7NaWo

carter going on and on, sounding like hes spoken to kawaii recently. "im gonna tell you what kawaii thinks ..."

Yeah, Carter sounds like he is super close to Kawhi. Literally said "this is what he told me".

-The shoe deal/endorsements thing, I can understand. The Spurs have no business telling Kawhi who he can and can't be endorsed by.

-The wanting more freedom of choice thing, that doesn't make sense to me. If it was coming from someone else with a dominating personality (LeBron, CP3, Kirby) I could see it but it's odd to have a guy with Kawhi's personality requesting that. Not to mention, why are you questioning the GOAT coach's methodology?

-Seems to me like in Kawhi's mind his personality and the fact he's a bonafide superstar are at odds. He speaks about wanting freedom of choice, about wanting bigger endorsements, he thinks players will flock to play with him...that's all true for the prototypical superstar with a dominating personality but not for a dude that hardly talks or shows emotion.

[tonight...you]

Yeah, Carter sounds like he is super close to Kawhi. Literally said "this is what he told me".

-The shoe deal/endorsements thing, I can understand. The Spurs have no business telling Kawhi who he can and can't be endorsed by.

-The wanting more freedom of choice thing, that doesn't make sense to me. If it was coming from someone else with a dominating personality (LeBron, CP3, Kirby) I could see it but it's odd to have a guy with Kawhi's personality requesting that. Not to mention, why are you questioning the GOAT coach's methodology?

-Seems to me like in Kawhi's mind his personality and the fact he's a bonafide superstar are at odds. He speaks about wanting freedom of choice, about wanting bigger endorsements, he thinks players will flock to play with him...that's all true for the prototypical superstar with a dominating personality but not for a dude that hardly talks or shows emotion.
Because he's letting outside guys just do.
He can't handle it so the other guys just... Do.

They are manipulating the image of him, while he's playing with his kid and chilling at home and then hitting a gym to train.

[RD2191]

Yeah, Carter sounds like he is super close to Kawhi. Literally said "this is what he told me".

-The shoe deal/endorsements thing, I can understand. The Spurs have no business telling Kawhi who he can and can't be endorsed by.

-The wanting more freedom of choice thing, that doesn't make sense to me. If it was coming from someone else with a dominating personality (LeBron, CP3, Kirby) I could see it but it's odd to have a guy with Kawhi's personality requesting that. Not to mention, why are you questioning the GOAT coach's methodology?

-Seems to me like in Kawhi's mind his personality and the fact he's a bonafide superstar are at odds. He speaks about wanting freedom of choice, about wanting bigger endorsements, he thinks players will flock to play with him...that's all true for the prototypical superstar with a dominating personality but not for a dude that hardly talks or shows emotion.

Carter is full of shit. Tbh. I don't buy a thing he's saying. This is all Uncle Dennis talking to Chris.

[Marcus Bryant]

We've been thinking about this all wrong. It's not some master plan by Leonard's skeezy uncle, not tampering by the Lakers, autism, etc...

Usually when you see a man making a questionable decision there's usually a woman involved. Just saying...

[apalisoc_9]

his twitter magically went private in the following minutes :lmao

Maybe cause spursfans started harassing the fella. I'm malayan not mexican

[RD2191]

We've been thinking about this all wrong. It's not some master plan by Leonard's skeezy uncle, not tampering by the Lakers, autism, etc...

Usually when you see a man making a questionable decision there's usually a woman involved. Just saying...

This....actually makes the most sense. :lol. Although if that's the case then Kawhi should've just played out his contract and left in free agency.

[daslicer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8zjLj7NaWo

carter going on and on, sounding like hes spoken to kawaii recently. "im gonna tell you what kawaii thinks ..."

I sat through all of this crap but here's a summary of it:

1. Cris states that Kawhi believes wherever he goes that he has strong recruiting power and could recruit guys to play with him.

2. Cris claims the Spurs control all the endorsements a player does. That they make the final decision on what products a spurs player can endorse and Kawhi doesn't like that.

3. Cris also claims Kawhi is not robotic person and that he's a free thinker.

4. Cris claims Kawhi believes he's better than Lebron,Durant,Curry.

5. Cris now claims what Tony Parker said wasn't the final straw and that it is other things that lead to Kawhi wanted to leave. I really laughed hard at this point I guess Kawhi's people realize what a bitch Kawhi looks like for being butt hurt by what Parker said.

6. Cris claims that Kawhi just wants to be in LA and doesn't care if it's a Laker or Clipper jersey.

7. Nick states that Kawhi will make it impossible for other teams to trade for him outside of LA because he will refuse to take physicals.

[Marcus Bryant]

This....actually makes the most sense. :lol. Although if that's the case then Kawhi should've just played out his contract and left in free agency.

Emphasis on playing in LA not just Lakers ('honey i don't want to live here, let's move to LA')
Emphasis on family treatment ('honey they don't treat you good, i've never felt like they like me, the mascot is a dog, Kawhi')

[Hoops Czar]

Yeah, Carter sounds like he is super close to Kawhi. Literally said "this is what he told me".

-The shoe deal/endorsements thing, I can understand. The Spurs have no business telling Kawhi who he can and can't be endorsed by.

-The wanting more freedom of choice thing, that doesn't make sense to me. If it was coming from someone else with a dominating personality (LeBron, CP3, Kirby) I could see it but it's odd to have a guy with Kawhi's personality requesting that. Not to mention, why are you questioning the GOAT coach's methodology?

-Seems to me like in Kawhi's mind his personality and the fact he's a bonafide superstar are at odds. He speaks about wanting freedom of choice, about wanting bigger endorsements, he thinks players will flock to play with him...that's all true for the prototypical superstar with a dominating personality but not for a dude that hardly talks or shows emotion.

Where is this coming from? When did the Spurs interfere with his endorsement deal(s)?

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If he is 100% healthy as they have state and is committed to the Spurs organization, I see the Spurs reluctanly offering the max.

I think Pop and R.C are tired of his BS and have almost given up on the relationship.

These are incongruous states of being.

[TXstbobcat]

I sat through all of this crap but here's a summary of it:

1. Cris states that Kawhi believes wherever he goes that he has strong recruiting power and could recruit guys to play with him.

2. Cris claims the Spurs control all the endorsements a player does. That they make the final decision on what products a spurs player can endorse and Kawhi doesn't like that.

3. Cris also claims Kawhi is not robotic person and that he's a free thinker.

4. Cris claims Kawhi believes he's better than Lebron,Durant,Curry.

5. Cris now claims what Tony Parker said wasn't the final straw and that it is other things that lead to Kawhi wanted to leave. I really laughed hard at this point I guess Kawhi's people realize what a bitch Kawhi looks like for being butt hurt by what Parker said.

6. Cris claims that Kawhi just wants to be in LA and doesn't care if it's a Laker or Clipper jersey.

7. Nick states that Kawhi will make it impossible for other teams to trade for him outside of LA because he will refuse to take physicals.


That sounds like BS. The spurs controlling his endorsements and telling him what products he can endorse??????

[Marcus Bryant]

I sat through all of this crap but here's a summary of it:

1. Cris states that Kawhi believes wherever he goes that he has strong recruiting power and could recruit guys to play with him.

Obviously.




2. Cris claims the Spurs control all the endorsements a player does. That they make the final decision on what products a spurs player can endorse and Kawhi doesn't like that.

Doubtful, though explains HEB.




3. Cris also claims Kawhi is not robotic person and that he's a free thinker.


I await his next treatise.



4. Cris claims Kawhi believes he's better than Lebron,Durant,Curry.


No surprise, all players do, few express it however.



5. Cris now claims what Tony Parker said wasn't the final straw and that it is other things that lead to Kawhi wanted to leave. I really laughed hard at this point I guess Kawhi's people realize what a bitch Kawhi looks like for being butt hurt by what Parker said.


Yep. He got called out for not playing yet suddenly less than a month later he's '100% healthy' after being out forever.



6. Cris claims that Kawhi just wants to be in LA and doesn't care if it's a Laker or Clipper jersey.

That sounds honest tbh, tbh.



7. Nick states that Kawhi will make it impossible for other teams to trade for him outside of LA because he will refuse to take physicals.

Again with the threat of failing to report. He does want to be paid at some point, no?

[daslicer]

That at sounds like BS. The spurs controlling his endorsements and telling him what products he can endorse??????

Agreed to me it didn't make any sense. To me it just wreaked more bs from uncle Dennis.

[RD2191]

Emphasis on playing in LA not just Lakers ('honey i don't want to live here, let's move to LA')
Emphasis on family treatment ('honey they don't treat you good, i've never felt like they like me, the mascot is a dog, Kawhi')

Coyote is worthless so I wouldn't blame her

[RD2191]

Agreed to me it didn't make any sense. To me it just wreaked more bs from uncle Dennis.

Exactly what I got from it.

[Dverde]

Next he’ll complain about his lack of speaking roles in HEB commercials

[stu scotts eye]

That sounds like BS. The spurs controlling his endorsements and telling him what products he can endorse??????

It's not new news, that the spurs have always had somewhat of a say, in the type of endorsements or marketing our players do. I recall hearing that before.

But I don't know exactly what their policy is or how strict it is.

Either way. I'm sure that's negotiable to our players liking at some point.

[Marcus Bryant]

other things that lead to Kawhi wanted to leave.

Being asked to do your job when you were physically cleared to do so. It would fuck the Spurs to let him walk or basically let him sit for another year if he wants, but damn, surely he is aware of how bad his reps are making him look. Did the Coyote come on to him? What's these other things?

[exstatic]

Gortat replacement

Ha. If Wall didn’t like Gortat, he’ll fucking despise Dwight.

[MoSpur02]

I'm thinking the Spurs and Boston will come to a trade agreement. Not sure for who though.

That's if that talk/meeting doesn't result in Kawhi remaining a Spur

[daslicer]

Next he’ll complain about his lack of speaking roles in HEB commercials

He'll complain about lack of acting opportunities for Hollywood movies.

[Robz4000]

Let's get this shit to 400 pages.

[gambit1990]

i wonder if the spurs have considered throwing manu in the mix for a deal with the sixers. manu would have more of a reason to play, sixers would get him for cheap.

[offset formation]

Surprised Bucks have no interest. They got Coach Bud, East is wide open....Middleton, Brogden, and a 1st round pick seems better than other trade offers I’ve seen out there.

A post after my own heart. Do it RC. Ship his ass to Milly-Walk-A

[CGD]

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Just waiting for this to keep opening up. First clippers, the Kangs, and finally Philly

[Marcus Bryant]

I'm thinking the Spurs and Boston will come to a trade agreement. Not sure for who though.

EC team. You'd think whatever problems Leonard has could be addressed, but as much as his reps continue to spew shit, deal his ass to Milwaukee and he can figure out how to make back whatever $ he loses out on.

[baseline bum]

Usually when you see a man making a questionable decision there's usually a woman involved. Just saying...

Why James went to LA instead of Philly

[vy65]

PATFO has no right or business getting into a player’s course of dealing with shoes, clothes, etc. just plain retarded if true.

[TXstbobcat]

It's not new news, that the spurs have always had somewhat of a say, in the type of endorsements or marketing our players do. I recall hearing that before.

But I don't know exactly what their policy is or how strict it is.

Either way. I'm sure that's negotiable to our players liking at some point.

I wouldn’t think that the spurs would want to cost their star player endorsement $$$$ by telling him that he can’t endorse a product. If Leonard isn’t getting the endorsements it is probably because he has shown no personality.

[Marcus Bryant]

Why James went to LA instead of Philly

:tu

[cjw]

At what point do these lies and speculation become slander? In any other industry, this would never happen. I don’t think we’ve ever seen a team thrown under the bus like this.

[Marcus Bryant]

PATFO has no right or business getting into a player’s course of dealing with shoes, clothes, etc. just plain retarded if true.

Consider the source, tbh. Proven retardation.

[FkLA]

It's not new news, that the spurs have always had somewhat of a say, in the type of endorsements or marketing our players do. I recall hearing that before.

But I don't know exactly what their policy is or how strict it is.

Either way. I'm sure that's negotiable to our players liking at some point.

That is fucking dumb though. I understand Pop's military style for on the court stuff, but you can't be like that off of it too. Unless he's endorsing shit that is grossly politically incorrect they need to ease off on that shit.

[Marcus Bryant]

At what point do these lies and speculation become slander? In any other industry, this would never happen. I don’t think we’ve ever seen a team thrown under the bus like this.

At some point the truth will come out and it won't be pleasant. If the Spurs were ready to cut ties today I think they'd unload, if anything to completely wipe out any doubts from the fanbase.

[vy65]

Consider the source, tbh. Proven retardation.

Quite possible. But it caught my eye as some posters suggested some non CC proof. Maybe they can give some more detail?

[r0drig0lac]

I'm thinking the Spurs and Boston will come to a trade agreement. Not sure for who though.

That's if that talk/meeting doesn't result in Kawhi remaining a Spur

would you have more information about this?

[Marcus Bryant]

I wouldn’t think that the spurs would want to cost their star player endorsement $$$$ by telling him that he can’t endorse a product. If Leonard isn’t getting the endorsements it is probably because he has shown no personality.

:tu

Team policy is probably no endorsements that could reflect badly on the team. I'd be surprised if every team didn't have such a policy. In any event, are the Spurs really going to keep him from getting a large endorsement deal that keeps him happy? This sounds like an Uncle Dumbfuck complaint.

[daslicer]

That is fucking dumb though. I understand Pop's military style for on the court stuff, but you can't be like that off of it too. Unless he's endorsing shit that is grossly politically incorrect they need to ease off on that shit.

I don't believe that's happening. Don't fall for the media bs.

[acoelho1]

Pop needs to come out publicly and take the blame for this fiasco even if Kawhi deserves some blame here. He did it with LeMarcus and he can do it now. After that offer the supermax and hope he signs. You don’t trade a player like this and all those eagerly want to kick him out will regret it. He will have a monster year next year that will solidify him as the best player in basketball.

[Marcus Bryant]

I'm thinking the Spurs and Boston will come to a trade agreement. Not sure for who though.

That's if that talk/meeting doesn't result in Kawhi remaining a Spur

Kawhi, blink twice if you want to remain a Spur.

[vy65]

I mean it goes without saying that teams don’t want their players endorsing NAMBLA. I’d assume that type of restriction is placed at the league - not team - level.

[Russ]

PATFO has no right or business getting into a player’s course of dealing with shoes, clothes, etc. just plain retarded if true.

I would imagine it's also against the CBA (just a guess).

[DPG21920]

If Kawhi really wants out badly, he just needs to help the Spurs. Put immense pressure on LA to cough up a legit deal or tell them you have lost me.

That or expand your list of teams to a couple more and SA will get a good deal and you will be gone. But if you really want LA, get on the Lakers and tell them to stop messing around.

[rjv]

Next he’ll complain about his lack of speaking roles in HEB commercials

parker had the same kind of roles but his were a hundred times worse.

[MoSpur02]

Kawhi, blink twice if you want to remain a Spur.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[stu scotts eye]

I wouldn’t think that the spurs would want to cost their star player endorsement $$$$ by telling him that he can’t endorse a product. If Leonard isn’t getting the endorsements it is probably because he has shown no personality.

I don't think it's a complete blacklist of certain products. They just are encouraged to focus on local companies like HEB, Car Dealerships, etc.

Our other players like Duncan.or TP have all had national commercials before, so it's not like a complete no no, as I said.

But my memory also recalls hearing Spurs players are discouraged of doing commercials of certain brands not conducive to the Spurs image.

I disagree completely with this FYI

[BatManu20]

Whatever. SL game is about to start on NBA TV. Wanna watch Derrick White again.

[exstatic]

Kawhi knows that if he goes to the Lakers, it will be on a non-Bird FA deal, with fewer years, and lower raises, since LeBron put the young players off limits, basically spiking any trade. He also won’t be able to recruit teammates to his new agency. LeBron and Klutch will suck all of the air out of the room. That’s what’s behind the newfound interest in the Clippers. Oh, and while he can refuse a physical before a trade to any team, he cannot refuse one after, and if anything shows up, the trade can be nullified. Other teams are covered.

[Marcus Bryant]

If Kawhi really wants out badly, he just needs to help the Spurs. Put immense pressure on LA to cough up a legit deal or tell them you have lost me.

That or expand your list of teams to a couple more and SA will get a good deal and you will be gone. But if you really want LA, get on the Lakers and tell them to stop messing around.


Basic strategy which Leonard's group doesn't seem able to grasp: make it easier for the Spurs to deal you and you are more likely to get what you want. Too bad the Donald Sterling Clippers circa 1986 aren't still around. Hate Spurs team rules? How about paying for and having to bring your own damn socks? :lol

[cd98]

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Is this Kawhi trying to win the PR battle on his reputation by saying that he doesn't want to be on a superteam in LA, but rather, he wants to beat Lebron's superteam?

[Marcus Bryant]

I don't think it's a complete blacklist of certain products. They just are encouraged to focus on local companies like HEB, Car Dealerships, etc.

Our other players like Duncan.or TP have all had national commercials before, so it's not like a complete no no, as I said.

But my memory also recalls hearing Spurs players are discouraged of doing commercials of certain brands not conducive to the Spurs image.

I disagree completely with this FYI

Sounds like something that could be worked out. Is Uncle Dumbass eyeing sex toys in addition to shoes though?

[Marcus Bryant]

Is this Kawhi trying to win the PR battle on his reputation by saying that he doesn't want to be on a superteam in LA, but rather, he wants to beat Lebron's superteam?

Seems like desperation, not able to force the Spurs to do a deal with the Lakers, now it's on to the Clips.

[Vic Petro]

Sounds like something that could be worked out. Is Uncle Dumbass eyeing sex toys in addition to shoes though?

He can fuck himself with his Klaw branded dildos

[baseline bum]

PATFO has no right or business getting into a player’s course of dealing with shoes, clothes, etc. just plain retarded if true.

I can't imagine the CBA would allow the team to interfere in endorsements. I mean you have seen players advertising total scams like electromagnetic wristbands before.

[Mr. Body]

Uncle blew this pretty badly. Nephew might be a Laker next year but that team looks like a total mess.

[tholdren]

Is this Kawhi trying to win the PR battle on his reputation by saying that he doesn't want to be on a superteam in LA, but rather, he wants to beat Lebron's superteam?

Not a max player

[Marcus Bryant]

This sounds like a reach. Of course, would we expect Uncle D to not explore sketchy endorsements?

[Clipper Nation]

Seems like desperation, not able to force the Spurs to do a deal with the Lakers, now it's on to the Clips.
To be fair, Kawhi's interest in the Clippers has been widely reported since he first requested a trade. That isn't new.

[baseline bum]

Seems like desperation, not able to force the Spurs to do a deal with the Lakers, now it's on to the Clips.

Sounds more like he'll say the Clippers are where he really wanted to go so out of spite the Spurs trade him to the Lakers instead.

[Marcus Bryant]

The endorsement complaint is grasping for straws. Just say he wants to play in LA. Every team has rules and bullshit. Every team has teammates you don't really care for. Fine, go play in LA, how about not destroying your trade value first, dumbass?

[Russ]

The Spurs went from the Naval Academy (graduate) to Wake Forrest (graduate) to San Diego State (nongraduate) . . . .

The result is, unfortunately, indubitable . . .

[Marcus Bryant]

Sounds more like he'll say the Clippers are where he really wanted to go so out of spite the Spurs trade him to the Lakers instead.

:lol Anyways, fuck that guy. Anyone singlehandedly trying to force the Spurs to trade their best player to the Lakers can go fuck himself, tbh. This forum is way nicer than I would've expected in this situation. I guess it's 2018 and not 1988.

[apalisoc_9]

Heard kawhi looked for teamates with shooting and defensive minded players during his selection of teams he wants to plwy for. Done deal though.

[RD2191]

The Spurs went from the Naval Academy (graduate) to Wake Forrest (graduate) to San Diego State (nongraduate) . . . .

The result is, unfortunately, indubitable . . .

It's this generation of players tbh. Spurs need to change their mindset of they want to stay relevant. That's just the way it is.

[apalisoc_9]

It's this generation of players tbh. Spurs need to change their mindset of they want to stay relevant. That's just the way it is.

Yup. Modern say players need modern day treatment

[goliath]

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2018/7/3/17533090/lakers-trade-rumors-spurs-brandon-ingram-josh-hart-kyle-kuzma-kawhi-leonard?utm_campaign=silverscreenandroll&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

However, according to Larry Coon (The CBA FAQ Godfather and about as plugged-in of an individual as there is around the NBA) during an appearance on Spectrum Sportsnet, the Spurs are asking for a lot more than just Kuzma or Ingram:

“From what I hear they’re asking a lot. My sources are saying Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, Kyle Kuzma, two firsts and two pick swaps... They’re just saying give us everything.”

[Kermit]

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2018/7/3/17533090/lakers-trade-rumors-spurs-brandon-ingram-josh-hart-kyle-kuzma-kawhi-leonard?utm_campaign=silverscreenandroll&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

However, according to Larry Coon (The CBA FAQ Godfather and about as plugged-in of an individual as there is around the NBA) during an appearance on Spectrum Sportsnet, the Spurs are asking for a lot more than just Kuzma or Ingram:

“From what I hear they’re asking a lot. My sources are saying Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, Kyle Kuzma, two firsts and two pick swaps... They’re just saying give us everything.”

As they should be.

[Mr. Body]

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2018/7/3/17533090/lakers-trade-rumors-spurs-brandon-ingram-josh-hart-kyle-kuzma-kawhi-leonard?utm_campaign=silverscreenandroll&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

However, according to Larry Coon (The CBA FAQ Godfather and about as plugged-in of an individual as there is around the NBA) during an appearance on Spectrum Sportsnet, the Spurs are asking for a lot more than just Kuzma or Ingram:

“From what I hear they’re asking a lot. My sources are saying Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, Kyle Kuzma, two firsts and two pick swaps... They’re just saying give us everything.”

Good

[Marcus Bryant]

As they should be.

:tu Why not? Think that's not fair? Then no deal.

[Vic Petro]

It's this generation of players tbh. Spurs need to change their mindset of they want to stay relevant. That's just the way it is.

Looking like Udoka would be next head coach. Former player, so maybe more inclined to loosen the reins

[John B]

Everything but Lonzo :lol or package him for a pick

[Vic Petro]

Everything but Lonzo :lol or package him for a pick

I think that’s exactly it.

Ingram
Kuzma
Hart
Lakers 1
Go trade Lonzo and get us a reasonable lottery pick.

I still don’t like the trade just because I don’t think the players are good, but the structure is appropriate.

[exstatic]

It's this generation of players tbh. Spurs need to change their mindset of they want to stay relevant. That's just the way it is.

That’s just absolute crap. Trying to force your way out of a franchise with two years left on your contract isn’t acceptable for any generation of player.

[Clipper Nation]

Heard kawhi looked for teamates with shooting and defensive minded players during his selection of teams he wants to plwy for. Done deal though.
That rules out the Lakers, then. Magic forgot the three-point line existed when he put that team together.

[bklynspursfan]

That’s just absolute crap. Trying to force your way out of a franchise with two years left on your contract isn’t acceptable for any generation of player.

Especially coming off a WCF finals appearance where an upset/finals appearance wasn't out of the question.

[RD2191]

That’s just absolute crap. Trying to force your way out of a franchise with two years left on your contract isn’t acceptable for any generation of player.

I'm talking about endorsements and shoe deals and all that jazz. Building a brand etc etc. Players are looking at the NBA as a stepping stone now. Players like LeBron becoming business moguls and all that.

[Mr. Body]

That rules out the Lakers, then. Magic forgot the three-point line existed when he put that team together.

Ugliest fucking team I can think of. Also physically ugly, a bunch of Hollywood dickwad rejects.

[Marcus Bryant]

That’s just absolute crap. Trying to force your way out of a franchise with two years left on your contract isn’t acceptable for any generation of player.

:tu James played out his contracts for teams he didn't want to play for. Everything about Kawhi's group screams bush league, not really generational, tbh.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Did anyone catch them talking during the summer league game about the Lakers reportedly floating that they’d like to trade for Damian Lillard or John Wall to force the Spurs’ hand. I had not seen this reported.

[offset formation]

Carter is full of shit. Tbh. I don't buy a thing he's saying. This is all Uncle Dennis talking to Chris.

Yup. What excuse number are we at now? 12?

Oh, I'm a robot in SA. They don't let me endorse who I want.

THAT is all...BS!

Tony endorsed Tissot for crying out loud.

[Kermit]

Did anyone catch them talking during the summer league game about the Lakers reportedly floating that they’d like to trade for Damian Lillard or John Wall to force the Spurs’ hand. I had not seen this reported.

Why the fuck would Washington trade John Wall? Even more stupid is the idea that Portland would trade Dame.

[lmbebo]

How would trading for those players put pressure on spurs?

[Pavlov]

Heard kawhi looked for teamates with shooting and defensive minded players during his selection of teams he wants to plwy for.You did not.
Done deal though.Why the four day delay from the first time you said that?

Which team?

For whom?

[offset formation]

Coyote is worthless so I wouldn't blame her

Heresy. Coyote is the fucking best mascot in the League.

[Clipper Nation]

Did anyone catch them talking during the summer league game about the Lakers reportedly floating that they’d like to trade for Damian Lillard or John Wall to force the Spurs’ hand. I had not seen this reported.
John Wall? Overpaid, can't shoot, yet another diva point guard... yeah, that sounds like a GM Magic type of move to me.

[K...]

Hey guys, it's a done deal, kathi will be playing basketball soon..(orange ball)

[Ron Swanson]

How would trading for those players put pressure on spurs?

Narrator: It doesn’t.

[offset formation]

At what point do these lies and speculation become slander? In any other industry, this would never happen. I don’t think we’ve ever seen a team thrown under the bus like this.

Word.

[Clipper Nation]

Why the fuck would Washington trade John Wall? Even more stupid is the idea that Portland would trade Dame.
The Wizards have an incompetent GM, so they probably wouldn't trade Wall. But if they had a front office with a clue, they'd be begging Magic to bail them out of that contract. He is going to be way overpaid starting this upcoming season, and his teammates can't stand him.

[Kindergarten Cop]

How would trading for those players put pressure on spurs?

While I don’t agree, I’m sure that they are thinking it gives them more leverage because they would no longer need Kawhi because they would have their second “elite” player to pair with LeBron.

[offset formation]

That is fucking dumb though. I understand Pop's military style for on the court stuff, but you can't be like that off of it too. Unless he's endorsing shit that is grossly politically incorrect they need to ease off on that shit.

You dont honestly believe that this is a real reason for this saga, do you?

[RD2191]

While I don’t agree, I’m sure that they are thinking it gives them more leverage because they would no longer need Kawhi because they would have their second “elite” player to pair with LeBron.

That's stupid though. They'd basically be telling Kawhi that they don't give a shit about him and only want a star next to LeBron no matter who it is.

[MoSpur02]

would you have more information about this?

Just heard Pop was gonna talk/meet with Kawhi. Also heard something about Boston I got no specifics yet. Honestly

[RD2191]

Heresy. Coyote is the fucking best mascot in the League.

He's a bum :lol

[r0drig0lac]

Just heard Pop was gonna talk/meet with Kawhi. Also heard something about Boston I got no specifics yet. Honestly

thanks

[Kindergarten Cop]

That's stupid though. They'd basically be telling Kawhi that they don't give a shit about him and only want a star next to LeBron no matter who it is.

Again, I disagree with the premise - but if this was the case, you’d have to believe that they were letting Kawhi know behind closed doors what their intentions are.

[K...]

400 we did it bitches

[spurschamps99030507]

I would like to see in the training camp.... popovich hitting a punch to jabari .... tony parker and ginobili giving the super contract to kawhi ..

[toki9]

5. Cris now claims what Tony Parker said wasn't the final straw and that it is other things that lead to Kawhi wanted to leave. I really laughed hard at this point I guess Kawhi's people realize what a bitch Kawhi looks like for being butt hurt by what Parker said.

Isn't this kind of big given how TP's been getting pilloried by people for that terrible, horrible, no good, very bad "comment"?

[lmbebo]

Doesn't matter ... he pulled a bitch move.

[spurschamps99030507]

It would be a dream to see Kiwi on the training camp and a lot of TVs with the phrase of parker that his injury was a hundred times worse in a loop

[baseline bum]

Did anyone catch them talking during the summer league game about the Lakers reportedly floating that they’d like to trade for Damian Lillard or John Wall to force the Spurs’ hand. I had not seen this reported.

Why do these faggots keep thinking they're getting allstars for nothing? I can't believe how many talking heads there are acting like the Spurs should be happy to trade for Ingram and Kuzma like they're some great building blocks or something.

[bklynspursfan]

Yup. What excuse number are we at now? 12?

Oh, I'm a robot in SA. They don't let me endorse who I want.

THAT is all...BS!

Tony endorsed Tissot for crying out loud.

Seriously... Like our previous superstar didn't have endorsements/commercials or anything...




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_yqskWYCJ8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF1Ctf-25xQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KbzLHvEPf8

[bklynspursfan]

Or these


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnOQWc1ps5w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucgIER7ZiQU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9pBReZyCkY

[lmbebo]

if Kawhi had *any* personality, he'd have more endorsements and commercials.

[BatManu20]

“My sources say they’re asking for Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, 2 Firsts, and 2 pick swaps.”


1014302196287070208

[BatManu20]

^ Spurs will never get that.

[gospursgojas]

What if the requested endorsement was selling jersey space to uncle d’s Impact Sports or whatever his shell company is called.


What if somehow uncle d wanted to get spurs org involved in his shady dealings via Kawhi and they were like nah son and now it’s “they don’t allow Kawhi to be endorsed by who he wants”

[ECOV]

^ Spurs will never get that.

Then no deal in my book

[Kermit]

^ Spurs will never get that.

I’m pretty sure they don’t care.

[SAGirl]

Kawhi knows that if he goes to the Lakers, it will be on a non-Bird FA deal, with fewer years, and lower raises, since LeBron put the young players off limits, basically spiking any trade. He also won’t be able to recruit teammates to his new agency. LeBron and Klutch will suck all of the air out of the room. That’s what’s behind the newfound interest in the Clippers. Oh, and while he can refuse a physical before a trade to any team, he cannot refuse one after, and if anything shows up, the trade can be nullified. Other teams are covered.

The bolded part is definitely an Uncle Dennis problem. Kawhi wouldn't care about such things. There seems to be a conflict of interest in that player-agent relationship.

[HarlemHeat37]

If they end up making the Lakers trade, just please don't take Kuzma's corny ass..

[rasuo214]

I sat through all of this crap but here's a summary of it:

1. Cris states that Kawhi believes wherever he goes that he has strong recruiting power and could recruit guys to play with him.

2. Cris claims the Spurs control all the endorsements a player does. That they make the final decision on what products a spurs player can endorse and Kawhi doesn't like that.

3. Cris also claims Kawhi is not robotic person and that he's a free thinker.

4. Cris claims Kawhi believes he's better than Lebron,Durant,Curry.

5. Cris now claims what Tony Parker said wasn't the final straw and that it is other things that lead to Kawhi wanted to leave. I really laughed hard at this point I guess Kawhi's people realize what a bitch Kawhi looks like for being butt hurt by what Parker said.

6. Cris claims that Kawhi just wants to be in LA and doesn't care if it's a Laker or Clipper jersey.

7. Nick states that Kawhi will make it impossible for other teams to trade for him outside of LA because he will refuse to take physicals.


He didn't say Kawhi would do that, just that he could do that based on how much it seems like he wants to be in LA.

[RD2191]

If they end up making the Lakers trade, just please don't take Kuzma's corny ass..

Idk if you've watched parks and rec but he reminds me of Jean Ralphio :lol

[SAGirl]

“My sources say they’re asking for Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, 2 Firsts, and 2 pick swaps.”


1014302196287070208


^ Spurs will never get that.

Sounds to me like just a starting point, where you hope through negotiation you end up somewhere in the middle. Also, sounds like Lakers are justifying to their fans why Kawhi is still in SA, since earlier Chris Carter was sending a message to Magic to get this deal done and not wait for a PG situation.

[Marcus Bryant]

Then no deal in my book

Fuck yeah no fucking deal.