Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[FlAVaK]

No "we" from Jablabla regarding the "group" ^^

Only in the part, where he is impersonating Magic, who should offer just everything LA has! Which still is a bunch of shit, tbh...

Most interesting part: no1 option for the Spurs is trying to use the "next 48-72 hrs" to fix the situation.

So it really sounds like a leverage move. Get Pop and the group into a room a.s.o.

[BillMc]

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[BillMc]

So it really sounds like a leverage move. Get Pop and the group into a room a.s.o.

yep

[Spurs9]

So most likely he will have to be dealt before Thursday right?

[BillMc]

Trading him to the Kings for the #2 and Fox, would be great for lots of reason even the comedy potential of Uncle Dennis interacting with Vlade and Kings owner.

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a top 5 player wanting the supermax is too much to ask for?? wtf?

I know yesterday was tough and that's prolly why you disappeared the whole day but do try to keep up chief.

I ain't got the timo to explain every post. But I'll do you a solid here. In this instance, we were discussing the idiots that both Simmons and KL have had repping them going into their contracts, and how they both royally fucked over their clients by going nuclear from the get go.

[Gino20]

At first, I thought Kawhi truly wanted a trade. Now, I think this is a leverage play. The reporting this morning seems to reflect that. 1) Spurs reportedly haven’t been notified of a trade request; 2) Pop still would reportedly want a meeting; 3) the sequence of reporting.

I just don’t how you fix this mess.

[boutons_deux]

a healthy KL is maybe a supermaxable,

but KL's leg problem is chronic, it will be back, and he very probably will continue to miss significant chunks of seasons, using his chronic history as predictor of the future.

just another great player brought down tragically by injury or physical problems.

[Russ]

Trading him to the Kings for the #2 and Fox, would be great for lots of reason even the comedy potential of Uncle Dennis interacting with Vlade and Kings owner.

You'd have to call the cops if Sac allowed that to happen.

[FkLA]

At first, I thought Kawhi truly wanted a trade. Now, I think this is a leverage play. The reporting this morning seems to reflect that. 1) Spurs reportedly haven’t been notified of a trade request; 2) Pop still would reportedly want a meeting; 3) the sequence of reporting.

I just don’t how you fix this mess.

I actually agree. Both Jabari and Woj now reporting that "it can still be fixed". Such an amateurish power move though. Couldve easily gone about it differently. Unc and broke agent are way in over their heads.

[SpursDynasty85]

At first, I thought Kawhi truly wanted a trade. Now, I think this is a leverage play. The reporting this morning seems to reflect that. 1) Spurs reportedly haven’t been notified of a trade request; 2) Pop still would reportedly want a meeting; 3) the sequence of reporting.

I just don’t how you fix this mess.

Either way. Even if he goes to another team he will face public scrutiny. If he stays with Spurs, both do press conferences and statements stating they both made mistakes and by gone should be by gone quicker than Kawhi just outright leaving. That's only one point of view but who knows if it's truly irreparable.

[HarlemHeat37]

Buncha drama queens,uggh,as if I needed a reminder why I hate the rest of the NBA

Jabari Young sounds like he should be trying to sweet talk you into buying more heroin,wtf passes for professional journalism these days

Moron can't even speak correct,ignorant fools have no pride in learning how to conduct themselves,this isn't the Corner lmfao

Black folks and the never ending quest to be cool FTW!

:lol white supremacists never miss an opportunity..

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Trading him to the Kings for the #2 and Fox, would be great for lots of reason even the comedy potential of Uncle Dennis interacting with Vlade and Kings owner.

Yes, yes, and yes.

I send him to SacTown (that #2, tho), Milwaukee, or Boston. In that order.

All three give you a good potential of player(s) and draft pick(s) with the added benefit that two of those three places are NBA hell. Sending a little message to Uncle Robertson about forcing their hand on signing a max in Milwaukee, on the way out the door certainly wouldn't hurt the message of, DON'T FUCK THE SPURS, amateur.

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:lol white supremacists never miss an opportunity..

I especially liked the line, "Moron cant even speak correct..."

That sentence is so richly ironic, and in my experience, fully representative of the idiots I encounter on Twitter everyday.

[SpursDynasty85]

ESPN reporting Brown, Rozier, Marcus Morris plus a draft pick is still available. That would be awesome. We still have leeway to go after free agents this summer while rebuilding and staying competitive. Sending him West doesn't make sense. Sending him East gives it a better chance he stays East which is what the Spurs really want. Not drama 4x a year and early in playoffs.

[SpursforSix]

I'm not sure I can explain it to you other than to say...it's Sacramento. Their owner thought it would be a good idea to run the cherry-picker offense from his daughter's youth league. :lol

What would be funny is if SA trades him to a non-Laker destination, and then PG13 and Bron look at each other, and realize that the two of them can't get it done against GS, and the whole Laker fantasy falls apart. PG13 takes the extra $40M to stay in OKC, and Bron does whatever he does.

I would hope it would go down like that. The situation sucks. I almost wish Pop would send him to whatever place KL least wants to go. Even if Spurs only get a bag of Takis in return. Just to send a message. Albeit an costly one.

[Crazymaddopeyo]

ESPN reporting Brown, Rozier, Marcus Morris plus a draft pick is still available. That would be awesome. We still have leeway to go after free agents this summer while rebuilding and staying competitive. Sending him West doesn't make sense. Sending him East gives it a better chance he stays East which is what the Spurs really want. Not drama 4x a year and early in playoffs.

Would be horrible. Those players are going nowhere.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I'm doubting people will give up everything for a 1-year rental.

We'll be taking scraps.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I would hope it would go down like that. The situation sucks. I almost wish Pop would send him to whatever place KL least wants to go. Even if Spurs only get a bag of Takis in return. Just to send a message. Albeit an costly one.

Pop is a responsible person, he won't do something damaging for the franchise out of spite. They'll trade him to the team giving the best offer but the trade package will probably be mediocre.

[SpursDynasty85]

I'm doubting people will give up everything for a 1-year rental.

We'll be taking scraps.

But Boston has above scraps galore right now plus Philly. We still have cap room this year too. Lol to anyone thinking Jaylen Brown and Rozier are just scraps at their age. You have to trust your player development with guys like that. It really sucks to think what a Kawhi committed Spurs could have been but Spurs imo are still in great position either way.

[LkrFan]

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[baseline bum]

ESPN reporting Brown, Rozier, Marcus Morris plus a draft pick is still available. That would be awesome. We still have leeway to go after free agents this summer while rebuilding and staying competitive. Sending him West doesn't make sense. Sending him East gives it a better chance he stays East which is what the Spurs really want. Not drama 4x a year and early in playoffs.

That offer is shit. I'd tell Ainge that Leonard is going to Philly if I can't get Tatum.

[Vic Petro]

Would be horrible. Those players are going nowhere.

Rozier and Brown are great young talents. That Sac pick could be high. Maybe they could squeeze the Memphis or LA pick from them too. Morris could be flipped for another pick. It’s not equal value for an All NBA player but you’re not getting equal value for Kawhi given the context. Not saying this is the deal, but this type of deal is likely the best they can do.

[SpursDynasty85]

That offer is shit. I'd tell Ainge that Leonard is going to Philly if I can't get Tatum.

Definitely understandable to want Tatum but you will be proven wrong on Rozier and Brown. Can't get 1 to 1 value so Brown and Rozier are amazing for a 1 year lease (if that is the case).

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Where are your picks? I'll hang up and listen.

[Leetonidas]

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The Spurs aren't retards like the Cavs front office when it comes to trades. Besides Miguel your roster is trash. What could we possibly want? Kuzma is overrated af. And ingram is meh. Lakers young talent is garbage

[SpursDynasty85]

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Different situations. It was arguable the Celtics did not get better in that trade because they gave up a lot of people. No one knew the Celtics young guys would end up being this good and the Cavs struggling this much. Cavs were always the favorites in the East regardless. Lakers on the other hand have tons of cap room and lots of young assets (perks of sucking for 5 years) so giving them Kawhi now and having them sign free agents and possibly trading those guys is pretty much setting up a 3rd super team. That Twitter is dumb.

[Chinook]

1-Depends on the players. LA helped a lot Blake, I doubt he would sign the same type of endorsements playing in the East now.

Griffin is not nearly as good or a player as was, and especially as people thought he was going to be. Irving got Uncle Drew even though he was drafted by Cleveland.


2-Young players don't take discounts in this league.

3-No one takes discounts to play for teams in states with high taxes.

4-Who the hell would take a paycut to play for NY, Brooklyn, LA? They have ton of money, players know that

I'm not talking about taking discounts for stars. I mean why wouldn't guys jump all over mid-tier money from NY/LA is they were just going to make any difference up in endorsements? The biggest advertising advantage those cities have comes from their local commercials, and as we can see from the Spurs, though involve both stars and role-players. So a bunch of players should have understood that and signed with those big-market teams to maximize their earnings. But no, financially speaking, playing in a big market is not better than playing in a small one. If Leonard and his posse open themselves up to more ads and completely back away from the creepy aura they're giving off, then he can get a lot more endorsements. That's even more true if he can somehow sound charismatic when he delivers his lines.

[baseline bum]

Definitely understandable to want Tatum but you will be proven wrong on Rozier and Brown. Can't get 1 to 1 value so Brown and Rozier are amazing for a 1 year lease (if that is the case).

Rozier is a scrub who got hot until the game that really mattered. Brown is a nice prospect but I'd probably roll the dice on Fultz instead as shitty as Fultz looked last year. If I'm the Spurs I'm also making a call to the Warriors to talk about a Klay for Kawhi swap.

[Robz4000]

Rozier is a scrub who got hot until the game that really mattered. Brown is a nice prospect but I'd probably roll the dice on Fultz instead as shitty as Fultz looked last year. If I'm the Spurs I'm also making a call to the Warriors to talk about a Klay for Kawhi swap.

Why would you want Thompson? At all?

[BillMc]

Rozier is a scrub who got hot until the game that really mattered. Brown is a nice prospect but I'd probably roll the dice on Fultz instead as shitty as Fultz looked last year. If I'm the Spurs I'm also making a call to the Warriors to talk about a Klay for Kawhi swap.

With the idea that you're basically conceding titles for now but the lux tax will cause them to implode in a few years and we'll still have Klay? Is that your reasoning? Not sure why we'd want to make a Superteam more super?

[baseline bum]

Why would you want Thompson? At all?

Because he's the second best shooter in the league and a first rate defensive player who is 28. I don't see anyone better the Spurs could land if Ainge isn't willing to part with Tatum.

[baseline bum]

With the idea that you're basically conceding titles for now but the lux tax will cause them to implode in a few years and we'll still have Klay? Is that your reasoning? Not sure why we'd want to make a Superteam more super?

I don't care if it makes Golden State unstoppable, it's the only way I can see the Spurs getting decent talent back if they can't pull Tatum. Team Klay up with Aldridge and maybe the Spurs have a puncher's chance of beating GSW if Durant, Leonard, or Curry gets injured for the playoffs.

[Clipper Nation]

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The Spurs aren't the Cavs. And the Celtics were offering the Brooklyn pick, which was seen as an extremely valuable asset. Not the same situation at all.

[BillMc]

I don't care if it makes Golden State unstoppable, it's the only way I can see the Spurs getting decent talent back if they can't pull Tatum. Team Klay up with Aldridge and maybe the Spurs have a puncher's chance of beating GSW if Durant, Leonard, or Curry gets injured for the playoffs.

By the time the Dubs faded, Klay would be like 33. I'd take a #2 pic from Sac, or roll the dice on an injured Kyrie or Porzingis, before giving the Dubs KL.

[Robz4000]

Because he's the second best shooter in the league and a first rate defensive player who is 28. I don't see anyone better the Spurs could land if Ainge isn't willing to part with Tatum.

Doesn't matter how good of a shooter he is since the Spurs' offense is a trash heap and isn't getting any better in the near future, and he's overrated as a defender. Spurs will also be in the same dilemma since he's set to walk in 2019 and isn't worth a max contract.

[r0drig0lac]

I don't care if it makes Golden State unstoppable, it's the only way I can see the Spurs getting decent talent back if they can't pull Tatum. Team Klay up with Aldridge and maybe the Spurs have a puncher's chance of beating GSW if Durant, Leonard, or Curry gets injured for the playoffs.

wtf

[K...]

I don't care if it makes Golden State unstoppable, it's the only way I can see the Spurs getting decent talent back if they can't pull Tatum. Team Klay up with Aldridge and maybe the Spurs have a puncher's chance of beating GSW if Durant, Leonard, or Curry gets injured for the playoffs.

Kerr says no, durant fuked their culture and kawhi is worse than durant. It's a fair trade but klay is too valuable. It would have to be a trade that offers them some cap relief

[Russ]

ESPN reporting Brown, Rozier, Marcus Morris plus a draft pick is still available. That would be awesome. We still have leeway to go after free agents this summer while rebuilding and staying competitive. Sending him West doesn't make sense. Sending him East gives it a better chance he stays East which is what the Spurs really want. Not drama 4x a year and early in playoffs.

How about Tatum + a pick (or keep walking).

[Russ]

If I'm the Spurs I'm also making a call to the Warriors to talk about a Klay for Kawhi swap.

I think you'll get a counteroffer of Draymond.

[baseline bum]

By the time the Dubs faded, Klay would be like 33. I'd take a #2 pic from Sac, or roll the dice on an injured Kyrie or Porzingis, before giving the Dubs KL.

You make the trade with Boston for Irving and you get an injury prone player who plays no defense and GSW is still unbeatable without season ending injuries. Porzingis might be my third option, with Tatum #1 and Thompson #2. I'm worried about bust potential with Doncic. I don't want to trade Leonard for the next Dante Exum, though the pick idea is definitely interesting given RC's ability to find good talent. Still, I remember how sprung RC was on Derrick Favors a few years ago when he was drafted, so even with a GM that good it could still be a disaster.

[baseline bum]

I think you'll get a counteroffer of Draymond.

Not a chance. I'd much rather have the Brown + Rozier deal as much as that offer sucks.

[Chinook]

Base, you're spiraling. Thompson is like the worst offer in this thread. And this is Spurstalk for fuck's sake. Second-overall from a team that has to know Kawhi intends to walk automatically changes the nature of the market.

[baseline bum]

Doesn't matter how good of a shooter he is since the Spurs' offense is a trash heap and isn't getting any better in the near future, and he's overrated as a defender. Spurs will also be in the same dilemma since he's set to walk in 2019 and isn't worth a max contract.

He made Harden his bitch in the Finals.

[baseline bum]

Base, you're spiraling. Thompson is like the worst offer in this thread. And this is Spurstalk for fuck's sake. Second-overall from a team that has to know Kawhi intends to walk automatically changes the nature of the market.

How is Thompson the worst offer in a thread where Laker fan is talking about trading for Leonard? :lmao

[baseline bum]

So Klay is worse than Kuzma + Lolnzo? :lol

[CGD]

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Cavs-BOS have nowhere near the history the spurs and lakers do.

[LkrFan]

The Spurs aren't retards like the Cavs front office when it comes to trades. Besides Miguel your roster is trash. What could we possibly want? Kuzma is overrated af. And ingram is meh. Lakers young talent is garbage

:lol

My garbage ass team swept yours. Lonzo even busted 6 threes in your balloon knots during one of our 3 Ws. :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

So Klay is worse than Kuzma + Lolnzo? :lol

Part of the problem with Klay(not that the Warriors would even make this trade, since it would make their team worse IMO) is that he's already due for a massive deal, in addition to his age..

Maybe if Pop strictly wanted to win now, but I'd rather acquire young players who don't command a max deal for a minute(not interested in the Lakers deal)..

Shit, only Tatum, Sacramento and Philly's deals sound appealing, so far..

[SpursDynasty85]

How about Tatum + a pick (or keep walking).

I understand that route but you eventually have to walk to something. I like Brown plus Rozier over just Tatum... easily. Rozier would be a huge upgrade in pg for us he could play next to Murray.

[noles1983]

:lol

My garbage ass team swept yours. Lonzo even busted 6 threes in your balloon knots during one of our 3 Ws. :lol

This is what Laker Nation has been reduced to, a team so shitty they have to brag about a couple regular season games :lol

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My garbage ass team swept yours. Lonzo even busted 6 threes in your balloon knots during one of our 3 Ws. :lol

Yeah he went 6 for 6 as I recall. A feat he wont repeat the rest of his career unless it's vs the Spurs.

Your guys will continue to show out and be a .500 team unless you get a big free agent to boost them.

Celtics young talent already took them to the Eastern Conference finals.

[baseline bum]

:lol

My garbage ass team swept yours. Lonzo even busted 6 threes in your balloon knots during one of our 3 Ws. :lol

So what. Spurs lost to a lot of shitty teams this year.

[LkrFan]

The Spurs aren't the Cavs. And the Celtics were offering the Brooklyn pick, which was seen as an extremely valuable asset. Not the same situation at all.

One conference rival traded within the conference with another conference rival. The only difference is this one is in the Western conferencePERIOD. It's the same.

[Chinook]

So Klay is worse than Kuzma + Lolnzo? :lol

Yes. Easily. And I hate the idea of Lonzo.

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One conference rival traded within the conference with another conference rival. The only difference is this one is in the Western conferencePERIOD. It's the same.

No it isn't, because it isn't happening.

[baseline bum]

Part of the problem with Klay(not that the Warriors would even make this trade, since it would make their team worse IMO) is that he's already due for a massive deal, in addition to his age..

Maybe if Pop strictly wanted to win now, but I'd rather acquire young players who don't command a max deal for a minute(not interested in the Lakers deal)..

Shit, only Tatum, Sacramento and Philly's deals sound appealing, so far..

You always have so much bust potential in the draft. I'm willing to tank for draft picks when the team would be going nowhere anyways but giving up a future MVP for a pick is sketchy. Don't get me wrong, it's worlds better than taking the Lakers trash, but Tatum is the best realistic option by a mile.

[LkrFan]

So what. Spurs lost to a lot of shitty teams this year.

:lol

You make it sound like the Spurs were not a playoff team. Were you not? :lol

We played the Dubs tough, split with Boston, beat Houston, etc etc. It's not just the Spurs losing to "shitty teams" as you put it. My baby Lakers were better than you want to give us credit for. It's cool tho :lol

[RD2191]

Base needs an intervention tbh imo.

[Russ]

:lol

My garbage ass team swept yours. Lonzo even busted 6 threes in your balloon knots during one of our 3 Ws. :lol

The Lakers have been out of the playoffs so long, they think "sweeps" can happen in the regular season.

[baseline bum]

:lol

You make it sound like the Spurs were not a playoff team. Were you not? :lol

We played the Dubs tough, split with Boston, beat Houston, etc etc. It's not just the Spurs losing to "shitty teams" as you put it. My baby Lakers were better than you want to give us credit for. It's cool tho :lol

Ooh made the playoffs by being one game ahead of Denver.

[baseline bum]

Base needs an intervention tbh imo.

You can't appreciate getting an allstar while also cockblocking the Lakers? Plus your man gets a few rings out of it.

[LkrFan]

Yeah he went 6 for 6 as I recall. A feat he wont repeat the rest of his career unless it's vs the Spurs.

Your guys will continue to show out and be a .500 team unless you get a big free agent to boost them.

Celtics young talent already took them to the Eastern Conference finals.

:downspin: that shiiiiiiiiiiiiit! :lmao

Horford was an all star. Played huge role for them all year. Marcus Smart, Marcus Morris, and even Baynes - these are not 1st or 2nd year players as s you're insinuating - all played huge for Boston all year. FOH with that nonsense son :lol

[LkrFan]

Ooh made the playoffs by being one game ahead of Denver.

:lol

[BillMc]

Here's a question. If the Spurs trade Kawhi to some team he doesn't like, can he torpedo the deal by "throwing" the physical? I mean is it more than just saying his thigh still hurts when they ask him to do some basic leg bends, etc? After sitting out a season to get what he wants (and was suddenly 97% healthy and would be ready for training campwhen he thought he was about to be Supermaxed), could he turn around and still cry injury at the last moment? And if he did, couldn't it scare away the other team in the trade?

[pookenstein]

It would be funny to ship Leonard to Golden State as a big fuck you to the league

Just make sure Zaza is part of the deal and let him do his thing the first time we play them...

[Russ]

You always have so much bust potential in the draft. I'm willing to tank for draft picks when the team would be going nowhere anyways but giving up a future MVP for a pick is sketchy. Don't get me wrong, it's worlds better than taking the Lakers trash, but Tatum is the best realistic option by a mile.

Getting Ingram and Kuzma plus a pick from the Lakers wouldn't be so bad. No way the Spurs should (or would) clean up the Lakers' mess with Ball.

[baseline bum]

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You make it sound like the Spurs were not a playoff team. Were you not? :lol

We played the Dubs tough, split with Boston, beat Houston, etc etc. It's not just the Spurs losing to "shitty teams" as you put it. My baby Lakers were better than you want to give us credit for. It's cool tho :lol

You want to talk about sweeping the Spurs but the centerpiece of your supposed young talent you're trying to sell Spurs fans on only played one of the three games. :lol

[LkrFan]

You can't appreciate getting an allstar while also cockblocking the Lakers? Plus your man gets a few rings out of it.

Whoop there it is!
Whoop there it is!
Whoop there it is!

:rollin :lmao :rollin

[CGD]

ESPN reporting Brown, Rozier, Marcus Morris plus a draft pick is still available. That would be awesome. We still have leeway to go after free agents this summer while rebuilding and staying competitive. Sending him West doesn't make sense. Sending him East gives it a better chance he stays East which is what the Spurs really want. Not drama 4x a year and early in playoffs.

If it’s the 2019 Sacto pick I think that’s at least on par with the Philly package around Fultz+parts+ 10.

So the baseline offers appear to be:

1. Clips: Harris, 12, 13

2. Boston: Brown + “Pick” + parts

3. Phil: Fultz + Saric + 10 + parts
(which is rumored Lebron offer)

4. LAL: Deng, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart

[Mugen]

That Sacto pick is juicy AF if the Kings really offer it tbh. You gotta take that and get rid of this nigga and the clowns around him. Trade away Lamarcus (attach Patty/Pau) for an additional pick and you're looking at 3 picks in the top 20 of a good draft with a shitton of capspace going forward.

[DPG21920]

How would fans feel if Kawhi re-signed now? I mean, he’s a top player and no matter what nothing changes that. But man, I don’t know how I would look at him now.

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:downspin: that shiiiiiiiiiiiiit! :lmao

Horford was an all star. Played huge role for them all year. Marcus Smart, Marcus Morris, and even Baynes - these are not 1st or 2nd year players as s you're insinuating - all played huge for Boston all year. FOH with that nonsense son :lol

Who showed out during the playoffs? I seem to recall it was Rozier's especially, and also Tatum's coming out party.

[baseline bum]

Getting Ingram and Kuzma plus a pick from the Lakers wouldn't be so bad. No way the Spurs should (or would) clean up the Lakers' mess with Ball.

The Lakers pick would be a negative since a team with LeBron and Kawhi on it isn't picking any lower than maybe 28. And Ingram is a china doll. Sounds like trading an MVP caliber player for a couple of used condoms and a bottle of mad dog.

[LkrFan]

You want to talk about sweeping the Spurs but the centerpiece of your supposed young talent you're trying to sell Spurs fans on only played one of the three games. :lol

Nope. Ya'll have Murray. We'd send you something like Kuz, Ingram, 2019 1st and fillers. Something like that.

Can't ask for much more than that. Why? Kiwi is disgruntled (which lowers his value - see MVPau trade as evidence) a he just missed a whole year due to injury. Now if he is 100% and not hurt, different argument altogether.

[tholdren]

Nope. Ya'll have Murray. We'd send you something like Kuz, Ingram, 2019 1st and fillers. Something like that.

Can't ask for much more than that. Why? Kiwi is disgruntled (which lowers his value - see MVPau trade as evidence) a he just missed a whole year due to injury. Now if he is 100% and not hurt, different argument altogether.

He wasnt hurt. Youre not very smart.

[baseline bum]

How would fans feel if Kawhi re-signed now? I mean, he’s a top player and no matter what nothing changes that. But man, I don’t know how I would look at him now.

I would be happy since it would mean his uncle would have been forced out and stuck panhandling under a bridge somewhere.

[Mugen]

Ingram is a B-level prospect at best and Kuzma is a bigger Jordan Clarkson. I don't even know who Hart is, I'm assuming some faggot that Magic's son got on the team tbh. Their offer is straight trash :lol

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How would fans feel if Kawhi re-signed now? I mean, he’s a top player and no matter what nothing changes that. But man, I don’t know how I would look at him now.

In Pop I Trust.

That said, he'd never be trusted by me going forward. I want him gone, like yesterday. But if Pop thinks it's good, I'll go with his knowledge. In fact I'd be the definition of ignorant not to.

[DPG21920]

Rozier is a scrub who got hot until the game that really mattered. Brown is a nice prospect but I'd probably roll the dice on Fultz instead as shitty as Fultz looked last year. If I'm the Spurs I'm also making a call to the Warriors to talk about a Klay for Kawhi swap.

Klay Thompson for Kawhi is worse than any other trade out there. Klay is LAST on my list. Look at his playoff numbers when he has KD/Curry opening things up. He’s worse than Danny Green in the playoffs and I don’t care if he explodes once or twice.

[baseline bum]

If it’s the 2019 Sacto pick I think that’s at least on par with the Philly package around Fultz+parts+ 10.

So the baseline offers appear to be:

1. Clips: Harris, 12, 13

2. Boston: Brown + “Pick” + parts

3. Phil: Fultz + Saric + 10 + parts
(which is rumored Lebron offer)

4. LAL: Deng, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart

You can't be serious. The Spurs give up the only good player in the deal and take back a shit contract?

[Mugen]

How would fans feel if Kawhi re-signed now? I mean, he’s a top player and no matter what nothing changes that. But man, I don’t know how I would look at him now.

That posse around him is toxic AF. You don't want that POS Uncle anywhere near the organization tbh.

[DPG21920]

Part of the problem with Klay(not that the Warriors would even make this trade, since it would make their team worse IMO) is that he's already due for a massive deal, in addition to his age..

Maybe if Pop strictly wanted to win now, but I'd rather acquire young players who don't command a max deal for a minute(not interested in the Lakers deal)..

Shit, only Tatum, Sacramento and Philly's deals sound appealing, so far..

PHX is the team. Josh Jackson + #1 Pick. It’s PHX time to go all in with Booker and make the playoffs.

[LkrFan]

The Lakers have been out of the playoffs so long, they think "sweeps" can happen in the regular season.

Do you really want compare franchises? Here's a hint, don't :lol

[baseline bum]

Ingram is a B-level prospect at best and Kuzma is a bigger Jordan Clarkson. I don't even know who Hart is, I'm assuming some faggot that Magic's son got on the team tbh. Their offer is straight trash :lol

Ingram is like the LA version of Lin, someone no one would give a shit about in any other market but LA/NY.

[LkrFan]

No it isn't, because it isn't happening.

I'm cool with that. :tu

[HarlemHeat37]

Ingram is like the LA version of Lin, someone no one would give a shit about in any other market but LA/NY.

Remember the Gasol trade? Javaris Crittenton was being discussed like he was an A-level prospect at the time:lol

[Spurs da champs]

Yeah Ingram's durability is only concern I have regarding him as a prospect.

[DPG21920]

If you can get that PHX trade, you have:

Murray (young and cheap), White (young and cheap), Josh Jackson (talented young and cheap) + #1 pick to build from.

Then you trade LMA for hopefully a young-ish player and another top 20 pick. It’s a core with potential and flexilbity.

[LkrFan]

This is what Laker Nation has been reduced to, a team so shitty they have to brag about a couple regular season games :lol

See sig. Over the last decade alone, we've done aight. ;)

[LkrFan]

Cavs-BOS have nowhere near the history the spurs and lakers do.

They never ever met in the playoffs? :downspin:

[Mugen]

Remember the Gasol trade? Javaris Crittenton was being discussed like he was an A-level prospect at the time:lol

Jordan Clarkson was a building block according to Lakerfan a year ago :lol

[CGD]

You can't be serious. The Spurs give up the only good player in the deal and take back a shit contract?

These are baseline offers from teams. I’m not saying the spurs would want Dengs attrocious deal, in fact it only illustrates how shitty the “best” LAL offer will be. LAL needs to move Deng somehow if they pretend to also add Lebron and/or George too.

[noles1983]

Do you really want compare franchises? Here's a hint, don't :lol

Most of the Lakers championships were before you were born :lol Like fucking Notre Dame fans bragging about championships their parents werent even alive for.

[tholdren]

Yeah Ingram's durability is only concern I have regarding him as a prospect.

That and he sucks

[CGD]

They never ever met in the playoffs? :downspin:

When they met in the playoffs one was always a pretender in a weak ass East. When Lakers-Spurs, for about half a decade starting in 99, the winner won the chip. And then in 2004, with .4, etc.

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Most of the Lakers championships were before you were born :lol Like fucking Notre Dame fans bragging about championships their parents werent even alive for.

Lol, right Half actually came from the place that gave them their name.

[baseline bum]

Jordan Clarkson was a building block according to Lakerfan a year ago :lol

Nance too. Never hear shit about him now that he's in flyover country.

[LkrFan]

Most of the Lakers championships were before you were born :lol Like fucking Notre Dame fans bragging about championships their parents werent even alive for.

:lol

[LkrFan]

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:wow

[baseline bum]

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:wow

If the Spurs take Deng's contract I'll sponsor you for a green card.

[Spurs da champs]

That and he sucks

Dude was killing it against the Warriors all season, he's no Clarkson (who I've seen several Spurs fans hype up here) & he's much better than Kuzma imo.

[ECOV]

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:wow

Lol bleacher report is ass

[mo7888]

Nope. Ya'll have Murray. We'd send you something like Kuz, Ingram, 2019 1st and fillers. Something like that.

Can't ask for much more than that. Why? Kiwi is disgruntled (which lowers his value - see MVPau trade as evidence) a he just missed a whole year due to injury. Now if he is 100% and not hurt, different argument altogether.

It doesn't matter that he's disgruntled. All that matters will be, is the Lakers offer better than the Boston offer...or the Philly offer etc. Nothing else really matters.

[BackHome]

AMEN BROTHER..........AMEN............

[DPG21920]

I’m serious - If SA trades with LA and takes Deng I quit.

[Russ]

Do you really want compare franchises? Here's a hint, don't :lol

I hate to feed the troll but . . .

Spurs have the best all-time winning percentage in the NBA as of right now.

And if we want to manipulate statistics, Spurs have more titles in the last 16 years (four) than do the Lakers (two).

And in two more years, the Spurs will have more titles in the last ten years (one) than do the Lakers (zero).

And the Spurs are on a twenty+ year streak of making the playoffs.

And the Lakers are on a five year streak of not making the playoffs.

And the Spurs are on a twenty+ year streak of finishing double-digit wins over .500. (An NBA record I believe.)

And the Lakers are on a five year steak of finishing double-digit losses under.500. (Not an NBA record -- yet.)

Okay, that's enough . . .

[emmo]

If Boston gets Kawhi the karma of the ‘97 lottery will have come full circle.

[Leetonidas]

Laker fans getting ballsy after stewing in garbage for the last decade. :lol how many FAs have scoffed LA since then? Ima laugh when spurs trade Leonard east and lebron goes to Philly and LA ends up with only PG :lmao

[MannyIsGod]

I hate to feed the troll but . . .

Spurs have the best all-time winning percentage in the NBA as of right now.

And if we want to manipulate statistics, Spurs have more titles in the last 16 years (four) than do the Lakers (two).

And in two more years, the Spurs will have more titles in the last ten years (one) than do the Lakers (zero).

And the Spurs are on a twenty+ year streak of making the playoffs.

And the Lakers are on a five year streak of not making the playoffs.

And the Spurs are on a twenty+ year streak of finishing double-digit wins over .500. (An NBA record I believe.)

And the Lakers are on a five year steak of finishing double-digit losses under.500. (Not an NBA record -- yet.)

Okay, that's enough . . .

Yeah but George Mikan!

[SpursDynasty85]

I don't see how a lottery team like Sac and PHX could trade their pick for a 1 year lease in Kawhi. I dont see Kawhi agreeing to sign and trade so I'm assuming those are very low possibilities unless a 3rd team from the east is willing to come in.

[BillMc]

Ian BegleyESPN Staff Writer Something worth noting when thinking about any (long-shot) Kawhi Leonard trade to NYK: Kyrie Irving had the Knicks on his list of trade destinations last summer. It's impossible, of course, to talk with any certainty about potential landing spots for Irving more than 12 months away from his free agency. Plenty can change between now and next July. But people around the league expect New York to remain a desired destination for Irving if he hits free agency next summer. And if Irving is interested in New York, you can be sure that the Knicks will be interested in Irving next summer, when they project to have significant cap space. But it's hard to see a scenario where New York can trade for Leonard, have enough money to sign Irving as a free agent and keep Kristaps Porzingis. Also, it's logical to assume that any deal that lands Leonard in New York would have to include the Knicks sending Porzingis to San Antonio.

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[spursistan]

How would fans feel if Kawhi re-signed now? I mean, he’s a top player and no matter what nothing changes that. But man, I don’t know how I would look at him now.

He is dead to me for most part short of 2003 Duncan run from him.

I don't think the same enthusiasm will be there for him. The unsavory baggage that has come out in this saga which has reflected elements in personality/character has been quite damning.

[SpursDynasty85]

I’m serious - If SA trades with LA and takes Deng I quit.

They would not even consider trading him to LA just for them to make way for a super team. That was reported a while back in the season.

[BillMc]

Kawhi's sister chime in on this yet? (Don't know her twitter account) She's the only member of his family who posts often.

[BillMc]

He is dead to me for most part short of 2003 Duncan run from him.

I don't think the same enthusiasm will be there for him. The unsavory baggage that has come out in this saga which has reflected elements in personality/character has been quite damning.

Indubitably.

[Mugen]

If the Spurs take Deng's contract I'll sponsor you for a green card.

:lol go easy on my INS nigga LkrFan. He's gonna end up living in Palmdale (if he doesn't already) since Boyle Heights is getting gentrified as fuck tbh

[baseline bum]

:lol go easy on my INS nigga LkrFan. He's gonna end up living in Palmdale (if he doesn't already) since Boyle Heights is getting gentrified as fuck tbh

Shit man I kind of miss Boyle Heights. It'll be tragic if King Taco and El Tepeyac get turned into Jamba Juices.

[Robz4000]

He made Harden his bitch in the Finals.

Harden made himself his bitch tbh.

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I’m serious - If SA trades with LA and takes Deng I quit.

Haha. No doubt. But have more faith in PATFO than that. I read something a ways back that Pop will not do business at all with the Lakers, whether or not he gets a great deal. Something about not liking the way something went down a number of years earlier. May have been the Pau trade.

I know that whole fiasco with The Logo trading away their best asset for next to nothing (at the time) pissed me off. And seeing how it likely prevented at least one more Spurs title, I'd bet that it irritates Pop beyond what I can imagine.

[acoelho1]

Am I the only one hoping for the parties to reconcile and Kawhi back with the team. None of the trade scenarios are appealing. You simply don’t trade a talent like Leonard. Pop needs to get on his knees and give him the supermax. I’m not buying that he’s ready to walk away from it. Even if he declines, play it out at least until the trade deadline to see if time can heal these issues.

[offset formation]

Am I the only one hoping for the parties to reconcile and Kawhi back with the team. None of the trade scenarios are appealing. You simply don’t trade a talent like Leonard. Pop needs to get on his knees and give him the supermax. I’m not buying that he’s ready to walk away from it. Even if he declines, play it out at least until the trade deadline to see if time can heal these issues.

Lol. Fuck that noise.

[DPG21920]

Am I the only one hoping for the parties to reconcile and Kawhi back with the team. None of the trade scenarios are appealing. You simply don’t trade a talent like Leonard. Pop needs to get on his knees and give him the supermax. I’m not buying that he’s ready to walk away from it. Even if he declines, play it out at least until the trade deadline to see if time can heal these issues.

Getting Ayton or Donic is very appealing to me.

[RD2191]

Am I the only one hoping for the parties to reconcile and Kawhi back with the team. None of the trade scenarios are appealing. You simply don’t trade a talent like Leonard. Pop needs to get on his knees and give him the supermax. I’m not buying that he’s ready to walk away from it. Even if he declines, play it out at least until the trade deadline to see if time can heal these issues.

Very well said and I'm hoping for the same.

[RD2191]

Lol. Fuck that noise.

He should be begging

[AFBlue]

Getting Ayton or Donic is very appealing to me.

Yes please.

[RD2191]

Pop is gone in a few years. The time to win is now. Young talent helps us how?

[CGD]

I’m serious - If SA trades with LA and takes Deng I quit.

Unless we get every laker first for the next 10 years, ditto.

[cd98]

If Boston gets Kawhi the karma of the ‘97 lottery will have come full circle.

I’ll take that Karma every time. Duncan > Kawhi.

[Isitjustme?]

Why would you want Thompson? At all?

Thompson is awesome. Fuck are you talking about?

Every team should want him.

[Baam]

Pop is gone in a few years. The time to win is now. Young talent helps us how?

The world doesn't revolve about Pop's career plan.

[LkrFan]

If the Spurs take Deng's contract I'll sponsor you for a green card.

Oh gracias mi amigo! :lmao

[Mugen]

Pop shouldn't cave into these fucking clowns an inch tbh. If PHX or SAC calls with an offer of one of the top 2 picks then you take it.

Otherwise, you wait out Free Agency when all the big pieces are in place and test Uncle Faggot's resolve.

[LkrFan]

:lol go easy on my INS nigga LkrFan. He's gonna end up living in Palmdale (if he doesn't already) since Boyle Heights is getting gentrified as fuck tbh

:lol

[Robz4000]

Thompson is awesome. Fuck are you talking about?

Every team should want him.

Sure, but not for Kawhi and not for the max.

[CGD]

I do wonder what the downstream effects of all this will be. Have to think Gay, Green are opting out now, no? And if so does LMA start talking about wanting out again?

[Isitjustme?]

How would fans feel if Kawhi re-signed now? I mean, he’s a top player and no matter what nothing changes that. But man, I don’t know how I would look at him now.

I'd orgasm if he stayed here. Hes a top 5 player

[BackHome]

Very well said and I'm hoping for the same.

Your just want Pop on his knees you nasty old man lol

[daslicer]

Do you really want compare franchises? Here's a hint, don't :lol

I'm in my 30's and didn't start watching basketball until the early 90's. In my lifetime I have seen the Spurs win an equal amount of titles as the Lakers. I have seen the Spurs have more winning seasons than the Lakers along with a higher winning percentage. I have seen the Spurs only make 1 lottery appearance in my lifetime while the Lakers have made several lottery appearances. Overall the Spurs have been better than the Lakers during my life. I don't care about what the Lakers did before the '90's because I didn't witness any of that stuff.

[r0drig0lac]

I do wonder what the downstream effects of all this will be. Have to think Gay, Green are opting out now, no? And if so does LMA start talking about wanting out again?
hope so

[offset formation]

Pop shouldn't cave into these fucking clowns an inch tbh. If PHX or SAC calls with an offer of one of the top 2 picks then you take it.

Otherwise, you wait out Free Agency when all the big pieces are in place and test Uncle's resolve.

[Isitjustme?]

They should let kawhi get healthy and play 15 games to start the season or so hopefully averaging like 30 points then his value would go back up then trade him. Not deal him now when he has the chronic injury dragging his value down

[LkrFan]

Number of games played by Kiwi these last few years:

64
58
66
64
72
74
9

He surely gets hurt a lot. :wow So...http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zst59zs

Can't expect a Kang's ransom for a disgruntled injury prone player tbh :downspin:

[LkrFan]

I'm in my 30's and didn't start watching basketball until the early 90's. In my lifetime I have seen the Spurs win an equal amount of titles as the Lakers. I have seen the Spurs have more winning seasons than the Lakers along with a higher winning percentage. I have seen the Spurs only make 1 lottery appearance in my lifetime while the Lakers have made several lottery appearances. Overall the Spurs have been better than the Lakers during my life. I don't care about what the Lakers did before the '90's because I didn't witness any of that stuff.

Fair take. I was just messing with him tbh. But for these farmers to clown on the Lakers because of the last 5 years of turmoil, while ignoring their history, is akin to playing checkers, not chess. ;)

[NASpurs]

:lol some people here are getting their wish?

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[Dancelot]

Ingram is a B-level prospect at best and Kuzma is a bigger Jordan Clarkson. I don't even know who Hart is, I'm assuming some faggot that Magic's son got on the team tbh. Their offer is straight trash :lol
It’s Robby Hart, the wedding singer bruh.

[RD2191]

:lol some people here are getting their wish?

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Ordering my Sun's jersey as we speak.

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hope so

Lol. The only positive from last season you're eager to part with? As a spurfan, he should be the last one you want to see walk out the door right now, given what Kawhi is doing.

Unless we initiate deconstruct mode, and go full rebuild, fuck all that nonsense. If Kawhi goes and we can get in a solid free agent with the money we would have. Plus hopefully score a really good draft pick and other pieces, we can be even more competitive than we were last season.

I expect big things from White and Murray next year also.

[Jules_Winnfield]

:lol some people here are getting their wish?

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Suns fan chimes in

"If we trade the #1 pick, Booker or JJ for a year of Kawhi (if he actually feels like playing) I will literally buy a pitchfork and a torch and take to the streets."

[RD2191]

Suns fan chimes in

"If we trade the #1 pick, Booker or JJ for a year of Kawhi (if he actually feels like playing) I will literally buy a pitchfork and a torch and take to the streets."

As if kawhi wouldn't automatically be the best player they've had in years. :lol

[CGD]

:lol some people here are getting their wish?

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Even if it doesn’t happen, we just need more of these stories out there. Make BOS and PHI pony up more. Can be the difference in an additional pick or two.

[CGD]

As if kawhi wouldn't automatically be the best player they've had in years. :lol

They’ll would also have his bird rights and pitch him on the best medical staff in NBA.

[spursistan]

Indubitably.


Leaving a team is a free man's will after all. The way he went about it is the behavior someone who is anything but..

All niceties aside, Kawhi is either a sad coward or a mentally unfit person.

[NASpurs]

Even if it doesn’t happen, we just need more of these stories out there. Make BOS and PHI pony up more. Can be the difference in an additional pick or two.

Yeah I agree, hopefully there's a market out there that inflates what the Spurs can get instead of getting the trash that's been proposed so far. Let these teams outbid each other.

[InRareForm]

Why on Earth would sun's do that for him just leaving to LA the next season

[spurraider21]

Also if we dump Kawhi does that mean we keep Kyle?

[SpursWoman]

Entire internet is shitting on Kawhi calling him a snake :lol except for LA fans obviously. I don't think uncle Dennis and Co expected such a negative reaction. Fucking amateurs :lmao

Very high on my list of why I really can't wait to see how this unfolds. Will he be boo'd in San Antonio even if he does resign? Lol

[CGD]

Let’s do it!

Trade 1: Leonard to PHX for 1, Knights contract, and Bender.

Trade 2: LMA to SAC for 2 and some of their garbage deals (some combo of Randolf, Kufos, Shump)

Pick big your of choice and Luka. Build around them, Murray, White, Bender, Mulitinov and 18. Steel yourself for growing pains.

[CGD]

Also if we dump Kawhi does that mean we keep Kyle?

He probably gets a max deal...

[Jules_Winnfield]

Dejounte Murray and Luka Doncic is a perfect fit, tbh..

[marinoman]

Very high on my list of why I really can't wait to see how this unfolds. Will he be boo'd in San Antonio even if he does resign? Lol
Kobe got booed in La in his first game after demanding a trade, by the end of the game they were chanting MVP. We may see something similar but ill be pissed cause he hurt our need to improve in the offseason, we need another star, not one threating to leave supposedly based on his mistrust

[marinoman]

One of the problems with kawhi never fucking talking is we don’t know where he stands. Is La the only place he’ll resign or if we trade him to a big market like New York or Boston will he be more than a rental. It kinda matters in negotiations

[tholdren]

Dude was killing it against the Warriors all season, he's no Clarkson (who I've seen several Spurs fans hype up here) & he's much better than Kuzma imo.

Dont care. The least stinky turd in a bowl of shit. LONZO BALL is in the nba and starting on that team. Nick young was once the face of the franchise for goodness sake.

[daslicer]

Fair take. I was just messing with him tbh. But for these farmers to clown on the Lakers because of the last 5 years of turmoil, while ignoring their history, is akin to playing checkers, not chess. ;)

We live in a "what have you done for me lately society" In general when it comes to sports,movies, music, people tend not to care about the past. It's all about the present. I have a cousin whose 17 who believes Drake is the GOAT rapper. Whenever I bring up guys like Pac,Biggie, he looks at me like I'm some crazy old person. I laugh at him when he gives me that look but it doesn't bother me because I understand for him he's not going to care about learning about rappers that were big 20 years ago before his time.

I can apply this rationale to the Spurs. If the Spurs suck for 10-12 years and are lottery team I expect people to laugh at them and not take them seriously but it won't bother me. I won't be bringing up arguments with other fan bases of how the Spurs were once a great organization. Spurs won 5 titles in my life and I will be fine if they never win again granted I hope they can win more titles.

[Jules_Winnfield]

We live in a "what have you done for me lately society" In general when it comes to sports,movies, music, people tend not to care about the past. It's all about the present. I have a cousin whose 17 who believes Drake is the GOAT rapper. Whenever I bring up guys like Pac,Biggie, he looks at me like I'm some crazy old person. I laugh at him when he gives me that look but it doesn't bother me because I understand for him he's not going to care about learning about rappers that were big 20 years ago before his time.

I can apply this rationale to the Spurs. If the Spurs suck for 10-12 years and are lottery team I expect people to laugh at them and not take them seriously but it won't bother me. I won't be bringing up arguments with other fan bases of how the Spurs were once a great organization. Spurs won 5 titles in my life and I will be fine if they never win again granted I hope they can win more titles.

Had no idea that you and Harlem are related. :lol

[daslicer]

Had no idea that you and Harlem are related. :lol

:lol I actually thought of Harlem when I had that moment with my cousin. I wondered for a moment if my cousin could be Harlem.

[baseline bum]

We live in a "what have you done for me lately society" In general when it comes to sports,movies, music, people tend not to care about the past. It's all about the present. I have a cousin whose 17 who believes Drake is the GOAT rapper. Whenever I bring up guys like Pac,Biggie, he looks at me like I'm some crazy old person. I laugh at him when he gives me that look but it doesn't bother me because I understand for him he's not going to care about learning about rappers that were big 20 years ago before his time.

I can apply this rationale to the Spurs. If the Spurs suck for 10-12 years and are lottery team I expect people to laugh at them and not take them seriously but it won't bother me. I won't be bringing up arguments with other fan bases of how the Spurs were once a great organization. Spurs won 5 titles in my life and I will be fine if they never win again granted I hope they can win more titles.

I guess I'll be the crazy really old person bringing up Ice-T, Rakim, Ultramagnetic, Chuck D, and KRS then. :lol

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Let’s do it!

Trade 1: Leonard to PHX for 1, Knights contract, and Bender.

Trade 2: LMA to SAC for 2 and some of their garbage deals (some combo of Randolf, Kufos, Shump)

Pick big your of choice and Luka. Build around them, Murray, White, Bender, Mulitinov and 18. Steel yourself for growing pains.

Video game style :lol

[DMC]

Are you joking? :lol

Look at who's likely to be traded to SA and from which teams.

I don't want any Lakers players because KL in LA means LBJ and PG as well in LA (I think).

I don't want Terry fucking Rozier's chuckin' ass nor do I want Gordon Hayward.

I don't want Kyrie Irving or George Hill or Larry Nance Jr or anyone from the 76ers (though I wouldn't mind seeing KL in Philly)

It's more about where KL ends up than about who we get, because there are no game changers coming to SA. At least CJ puts KL in Portland and we know he'll be in the DNP list all year there.

[SpursWoman]

I guess I'll be the crazy really old person bringing up Ice-T, Rakim, Ultramagnetic, Chuck D, and KRS then. :lol

Get off my lawn!

[Prose]

if he dose want to leave then why the fuck is this leaking to the media...that directly decreases his trade value and our bargaining. What an asshole. And on top of that we can't strong arm him because other players will see that and be discouraged to come to san antonio. We miss guys like timmy and manu and david :(

[daslicer]

Look at who's likely to be traded to SA and from which teams.

I don't want any Lakers players because KL in LA means LBJ and PG as well in LA (I think).

I don't want Terry fucking Rozier's chuckin' ass nor do I want Gordon Hayward.

I don't want Kyrie Irving or George Hill or Larry Nance Jr or anyone from the 76ers (though I wouldn't mind seeing KL in Philly)

It's more about where KL ends up than about who we get, because there are no game changers coming to SA. At least CJ puts KL in Portland and we know he'll be in the DNP list all year there.

Agreed if you trade Kawhi to LA your going to enable them to create a super team. I rather trade Kawhi for Kemba straight up then trade him to the Lakers for half of their team.

[baseline bum]

Get off my lawn!

:lol

[DMC]

:lol some people here are getting their wish?

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Number 1 pick and KL ends up in the Valley of the Sun? I'll take that.

[daslicer]

if he dose want to leave then why the fuck is this leaking to the media...that directly decreases his trade value and our bargaining. What an asshole. And on top of that we can't strong arm him because other players will see that and be discouraged to come to san antonio. We miss guys like timmy and manu and david :(


Let's be real outside of LMA, SA has never been a hot destination for top FA's. When the Spurs have to rebuild they will do it through the draft.

[DMC]

Is Pop's shtick running out of gas?

There'll be no DRob or Timmy walking through those doors, LMA wanted out (he's still here) and KL is leaving. I think stars know (but won't say it publicly yet) that the Spurs organization isn't willing to do what it takes to build around a guy they publicly call their face of the franchise. I think LMA and KL were sold the same line, that the Spurs will build around them yet there sits 50m dollar Patty Mills, fathead and wornout TP along with a few "who the fuck" guys and soon to retire Manu. To have Manu as basically the best player on the team is telling.

[TimDunkem]

Is Pop's shtick running out of gas?

There'll be no DRob or Timmy walking through those doors, LMA wanted out (he's still here) and KL is leaving. I think stars know (but won't say it publicly yet) that the Spurs organization isn't willing to do what it takes to build around a guy they publicly call their face of the franchise. I think LMA and KL were sold the same line, that the Spurs will build around them yet there sits 50m dollar Patty Mills, fathead and wornout TP along with a few "who the fuck" guys and soon to retire Manu. To have Manu as basically the best player on the team is telling.

Truth bomb. There have been a few of us saying the same thing for a couple of years now. We basically got the confirmation after last offseason. The PATFO slurpers will continue to deny it all though.

[exstatic]

Funny thing is I read where Woj did not communicate directly with Leonard and that his story remains speculation, which in turn had every news outlet saying that according to sources Leonard said .............., would be hilarious if this current stream was based off of just rumors.

Jabari is leaking for uncle Dennis. Woj is leaking for the team.

[exstatic]

if he dose want to leave then why the fuck is this leaking to the media...that directly decreases his trade value and our bargaining. What an asshole. And on top of that we can't strong arm him because other players will see that and be discouraged to come to san antonio. We miss guys like timmy and manu and david :(

Very few want to come here, anyway. His agent is independent, and has no agency, so there is no blow back there.

Fuck him with a sandpaper dildo.

[tbdog]

Truth bomb. There have been a few of us saying the same thing for a couple of years now. We basically got the confirmation after last offseason. The PATFO slurpers will continue to deny it all though.

Mills is one of the best backup point guards in the league and has played while being underpaid for a few years.
Kyle has developed into one of the best swing men defenders in the league.
TP suffered a career ending injury, in which he returned from, one year out of his deserving contract.
Gasol was the biggest question mark decision and they should have not re upped him for the extra year and let his contract expire.
Green fell off while still on a contract. He sign that contract when he was one of the best 3&D guys in the league.
Spurs got one of the best post big men in the league and got him extended while players like Milsap & Griffin got huge paydays.

All in all, the spurs biggest mistake was not addressing the need for a dependable guard. It's not exactly the Spurs fault that Parker declined rapidly then suffered the career ender. It's not the Spurs fault that Green forgot how to shoot at the same time, when he was one of the deadliest in the league. That just happens.

It is the Spurs fault not developing another guard. Clearly that is White and not Forbes or Paul.

[noles1983]

Let's be real outside of LMA, SA has never been a hot destination for top FA's. When the Spurs have to rebuild they will do it through the draft.

I think its difficult to say its not a destination. We never really have cap space to sign the big time free agents because PATFO hand out loyalty contracts and overpay for TOSB's. We got LMA the one time we did.

[Ron Swanson]

When Kawhi is traded on Thursday night, will Young go too? He can go be Windhorst 2.0 for another team.

[daslicer]

I think its difficult to say its not a destination. We never really have cap space to sign the big time free agents because PATFO hand out loyalty contracts and overpay for TOSB's. We got LMA the one time we did.

It's never been a hot destination for star players in their primes. I remember in '03 when the Spurs had cap money they struck out on Kidd, and Jermaine O'Neal.

[SpursWoman]

Fuck him with a sandpaper dildo.

+1

[Dverde]

The Spurs expected back a first round pick for Dejuan Blair, they are going to want the moon, sun, and the stars for Kawhi...going to be a long summer. Still think he is going to the Clippers or the Eastern Conference.

[noles1983]

It's never been a hot destination for star players in their primes. I remember in '03 when the Spurs had cap money they struck out on Kidd, and Jermaine O'Neal.

not saying its LA, but just because the one time back in 03 they didnt get anyone doesnt provide a lot of data.

[Lostwingman]

It's kind of surreal how it really wasn't that long ago that he seemed like the perfect no drama loyal franchise star.

Just goes to show that if you're an autist you really need to get yourself the right tard wrangler.

[baseline bum]

I think its difficult to say its not a destination. We never really have cap space to sign the big time free agents because PATFO hand out loyalty contracts and overpay for TOSB's. We got LMA the one time we did.

And we got Rasho Nesterovic the time before that with max capsapce coming off a title with Prime Duncan, Parker, and rookie Ginobili. No top 5 player is ever coming as a free agent and anyone else the Spurs would have to grossly overpay for. This team is not going to build itself through free agency, the draft is the only option once Leonard's ass is gone.

[LkrFan]

We live in a "what have you done for me lately society" In general when it comes to sports,movies, music, people tend not to care about the past. It's all about the present. I have a cousin whose 17 who believes Drake is the GOAT rapper. Whenever I bring up guys like Pac,Biggie, he looks at me like I'm some crazy old person. I laugh at him when he gives me that look but it doesn't bother me because I understand for him he's not going to care about learning about rappers that were big 20 years ago before his time.

I can apply this rationale to the Spurs. If the Spurs suck for 10-12 years and are lottery team I expect people to laugh at them and not take them seriously but it won't bother me. I won't be bringing up arguments with other fan bases of how the Spurs were once a great organization. Spurs won 5 titles in my life and I will be fine if they never win again granted I hope they can win more titles.

Good post son. :tu

[daslicer]

not saying its LA, but just because the one time back in 03 they didnt get anyone doesnt provide a lot of data.

Small markets like SA will never be a destination for FA's. Look at even Cleveland with Lebron. They could never get a top notch FA to play with Lebron during his first stint. They lucked out during his second stint with having already drafted Kyrie, and then trading for Love.

SA is on the same level as Cleveland,Indiana,OKC,Salt Lake when it comes to star FA's.

[LkrFan]

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Whew! :lol

[toki9]

When Kawhi is traded on Thursday night, will Young go too? He can go be Windhorst 2.0 for another team.

He probably should since the Spurs organization will probably never give him any time of day after all his "reporting".

[Russ]

Small markets like SA will never be a destination for FA's. Look at even Cleveland with Lebron. They could never get a top notch FA to play with Lebron during his first stint. They lucked out during his second stint with having already drafted Kyrie, and then trading for Love.

SA is on the same level as Cleveland,Indiana,OKC,Salt Lake when it comes to star FA's.

The dirty little secret is that top ten NBA player FAs only change teams about 4-5 times per decade (if that). So with 30 teams X ten years, that's about 4-5 hits in 300 tries per decade.

[Russ]

He probably should since the Spurs organization will probably never give him any time of day after all his "reporting".

He'll be lucky to score a bag of Cheetos at the Spurs media buffet.

[toki9]

Small markets like SA will never be a destination for FA's. Look at even Cleveland with Lebron. They could never get a top notch FA to play with Lebron during his first stint. They lucked out during his second stint with having already drafted Kyrie, and then trading for Love.

SA is on the same level as Cleveland,Indiana,OKC,Salt Lake when it comes to star FA's.

Yep. It'll be an uphill battle for all small market teams (as it has been all along--but seems to be getting worse), not just the Spurs. Basically, small market teams will have to tightly manage their finances, draft extremely well, and then hope to attract role player FA--all the while appeasing the fanbase. That's a tall task.

[toki9]

He'll be lucky to score a bag of Cheetos at the Spurs media buffet.

Mmmmm...Cheetos...

[Budkin]

It's never been a hot destination for star players in their primes. I remember in '03 when the Spurs had cap money they struck out on Kidd, and Jermaine O'Neal.

I honestly don't think it has anything to do with the city of San Antonio. I seriously think it boils down to the fact that Pop won't deal with their bullshit and will "yell at me."

[toki9]

Fuck him with a sandpaper dildo.

That is an extremely creative and impressive insult. Well done. :bobo

[kjhip1]

Hope this gets settled before draft, whether he re-signs or not. Would hate for this to drag out throughout the season.

[NASpurs]

But seriously, is this dude retarded?

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[Russ]

Hope this gets settled before draft, whether he re-signs or not. Would hate for this to drag out throughout the season.

My guess is that the Spurs' FO will play this like Stradivarius. They know this a crossroads moment in franchise history.

If dragging this out is the smart thing to do, they'll do it.

[cjw]

But seriously, is this dude retarded?

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Local news media...

So Indy fans had no right to be mad at George, OKC fans at Durant, Cleveland at Lebron the first time?

The fans owe nothing to Kawhi. He’s made millions off their purchases and probably develops into nothing of note if drafted by half the league.

[Ron Swanson]

Yes, Jabari, I am a fan of the team. I'm in my 40s and became a Spurs fan way before Kawhi was born. Of course, I am also a fan of the players, but they come and go. I would like Kawhi and PATFO to figure this shit out, but if not and he's traded, so be it. I'll still be a Spurs fan.

Fucking idiot.

[TheDoctor]

But seriously, is this dude retarded?

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What the hell?

[toki9]

But seriously, is this dude retarded?

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He's doubling down...telling people that they should hate on the organization that is the only real professional sports in town. But apart from that, yeah, fans typically root for the team since players come and go and teams stay (unless you're Seattle...). The Spurs have been in San Antonio since the early 70's...over 40 years. Yeah, the fans (especially the long time fans) might have a little more loyalty to the team...

[TheDoctor]

Yes, Jabari, I am a fan of the team. I'm in my 40s and became a Spurs fan way before Kawhi was born. Of course, I am also a fan of the players, but they come and go. I would like Kawhi and PATFO to figure this shit out, but if not and he's traded, so be it. I'll still be a Spurs fan.

Fucking idiot.
Blocked.
-Jabari Young

[Chinook]

How would fans feel if Kawhi re-signed now? I mean, he’s a top player and no matter what nothing changes that. But man, I don’t know how I would look at him now.

If he signed for less than the max, and it came out he overruled his group, I'd be cool with it. If they get Pop to quit and overrun the team, I'll want his ass gone. If something in the middle happens, I'd wait and see how the team responded, about in the front office and on the court. It's obvious there were real chemistry issues with Kawhi now, even if no one disliked him personally. You could see it in how they played. I don't want another year of that. That was much harder to watch than seeing the 50-win streak snapped.

[toki9]

But seriously, is this dude retarded?

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BTW, Jabari's been covering the Spurs for what, 2 years? And he gets on this kind of high horse?

[MannyIsGod]

But seriously, is this dude retarded?

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He's just now figuring out that we'e Spurs fans and not fans of a dude who quits on the team?

[Lostwingman]

So not only is Kawhi's insider team somewhere between functionally retarded and paint taste testers, but his media shill is also a desperate nobody looking to grasp onto autistic moneybags.

Real bunch of winners he's got there.

[cd98]

But seriously, is this dude retarded?

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It's because we are true fans not fantasy basketball fans. Sure if we are playing fantasy football or basketball, we root for individuals over a team. But we live in SA. That's team pride. Why would we root for a player who dumps our team and turns us into a lottery team so he can go play for the richest team in the NBA? This guy is clueless.

[dabom]

Jafuck has never been a Spurs fan. Since ever. Fuck that guy.

[Play Boban]

But seriously, is this dude retarded?

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Jabari playerfan confirmed. Disgusting. What a tool.

[MannyIsGod]

LOL, I've never been blocked by anyone on twitter until I retweeted his stupid take. Dude is softer than Kawhi's quad.

[Brazil]

He's just now figuring out that we'e Spurs fans and not fans of a dude who quits on the team?

:lol

[Dverde]

Everyone needs to tweet that shithead tweet to the newspaper twitter to get him fired. He needs to go. I’d rather have a corporate shill than this PTI wannabe idiot

Clown only has blue check because the subscribers pay his salary.

[RD2191]

Jabari dropping truth nukes :wow

[RD2191]

And spare me the fan of the team bullshit. Spurs have plenty of player fans, starting with Manu and Tony Parker fans. They'd easily jump ship if any of them left the Spurs.

[Lostwingman]

And spare me the fan of the team bullshit. Spurs have plenty of player fans, starting with Manu and Tony Parker fans. They'd easily jump ship if any of them left the Spurs.

How many of them held a season hostage for 20 mil because of the whisperings of a barely coherent uncle?

[Pavlov]

And spare me the fan of the team bullshit. Spurs have plenty of player fans, starting with Manu and Tony Parker fans. They'd easily jump ship if any of them left the Spurs.Are you not a fan of the Spurs team?

This is weird reasoning.

[daslicer]

And spare me the fan of the team bullshit. Spurs have plenty of player fans, starting with Manu and Tony Parker fans. They'd easily jump ship if any of them left the Spurs.

:lol So in other words you are a Kawhi fanboy.

[Leetonidas]

Jabari is such a faggot

[RD2191]

Are you not a fan of the Spurs team?

This is weird reasoning.

I'm a SPURS fan for life tbh fwiw. But kawhi is by far my favorite player in the league so I'll follow his career but the Spurs will always come first. And to be honest I'm not a huge fan of the other players on this team. I like Manu but that's about it.

[RD2191]

:lol So in other words you are a Kawhi fanboy.

I'm a Kawhi fan, yes.

[Pavlov]

I'm a SPURS fan for life tbh fwiw....the Spurs will always come first.Well there you go.

[SpursWoman]

LOL, I've never been blocked by anyone on twitter until I retweeted his stupid take. Dude is softer than Kawhi's quad.

You were blocked for retweeting? Wtf? :lol

[BillMc]

So, just got back from the real world. Any reports that PATFO are going to get a meeting with Kawhi? You know, the guy they have under contract for another year.

(I mean just wait until training camp and pull him aside then. Uncle Dennis gonna be on the team plane?)

All joking aside, if nothing happens before the draft, I'd be surprise if Spurs didn't start the season with KL. They have until next February, he may have to play in SA like it or not. Gonna be awkward, but....

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Looks like Kawhi is gonna jump ship and Manure and Porky are gonna swoop in for a big bite in the salary cap

[cjw]

You were blocked for retweeting? Wtf? :lol

Almost as bad as when Matt Moore blocked me after calling him out for saying Iman Shumpert is an elite defender.

Jabari is losing it. Piss off enough of a fan base and they’ll complain to the newspaper.

[JPB]

But seriously, is this dude retarded?

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This is both the most fascinating and stupidest thing I've ever read a "journalist" write. Which says a lot.

How a sport journalist can follow that reasoning and be so far away from the essence, have no clue about the base of its sport.

Go ask Manchester United, Barcelona, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich fans what they put first and how they would have reacted if Messi, Ronaldo, Salah had pulled 1% of what Leonard did.

And dude shits on the fans at that... Give this shame of a journalist the storm he deserves.

[tholdren]

But seriously, is this dude retarded?

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Jabaris logic is equal to 99 percent of spurstalk. You idiots were on here loving kl until 3 days ago. If you were true spurs fans you would have called this out in december like i did. Dumb tweet. But dumb spurstalk. Made for each other

[Mugen]

If you have a twitter, please harass the fuck out of Jabari. That nigga is straight up retarded, I'm not sure how he has a job as a sports journalist tbh.

[tholdren]

If you have a twitter, please harass the fuck out of Jabari. That nigga is straight up retarded, I'm not sure how he has a job as a sports journalist tbh.

What about all of spurstalk who went from kl is the best to kl should die after a woj tweet. They are just as stupid

[BillMc]

Jabaris logic is equal to 99 percent of spurstalk. You idiots were on here loving kl until 3 days ago. If you were true spurs fans you would have called this out in december like i did. Dumb tweet. But dumb spurstalk. Made for each other

Don't disagree with you, man,, but we're amateurs messing around on a message board. Jabari is a "professional" journalist paid for this stuff.

[tholdren]

Don't disagree with you, man,, but we're amateurs messing around on a message board. Jabari is a "professional" journalist paid for this stuff.

I consider myself professional troll.

[ElNono]

But seriously, is this dude retarded?

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Maybe this niglet is another autistic fuck... there's no other way to put it, tbh

[dabom]

I consider myself professional troll.

You're both shit at what ya do. :lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

You're both shot at what ya do. :lmao

:lol

[tholdren]

You're both shot at what ya do. :lmao triggered you and harlem in a post. I win

[dabom]

triggered you and harlem in a post. I win

That's why you suck at trolling. You consider replies "triggering". Getting shit on is not "trolling". :lol

[RD2191]

I consider myself professional troll.

:lol

[Joseph Kony]

I consider myself professional troll.

and the entire board considers you a retard. good job :tu

[HarlemHeat37]

I consider myself professional troll.

Aren't you a professional power lifter at age 50-something, as well?

[tholdren]

That's why you suck at trolling. You consider replies "triggering". Getting shit on is not "trolling". :lol

And here you are mad again... sad

[dabom]

Aren't you a professional bodybuilder at age 50-something, as well?

He got about 5 more years before his heart gives out...

[tholdren]

Aren't you a professional bodybuilder at age 50-something, as well?

62. No just spare time. But i do hold several degrees in medicine and physiology. Thanks for the inquiry

[HarlemHeat37]

62. No just spare time. But i do hold several degrees

From Trump University?

[tholdren]

He got about 5 more years before his heart gives out...

Still posting about me?... in your head forrizzzeeaaalll

[RD2191]

From Trump University?

:lmao

[tholdren]

From Trump University?

Multiple universities.