Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[Spurs9]

Tough-ass position to take. I don't know how much they can really squeeze out of LA. Maybe multiple draft picks?

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[BatManu20]

If LA Really is lowballing the fuck out of us, you trade Kawhi to another team, even if it is a slightly lesser package. A lot can happen in a year. Maybe Kawhi changes his mind after experiencing success with Philly or whoever. But don’t trade him to the Lakersfor a lowball offer. Unless they’re giving up a shit ton of assets, fuck the Lakers.

[Spurs9]

I think knowing that PG will probably stay, the Spurs are playing extra hardball. They don't have to make any moves, so if the Lakers accept the huge package they are requesting they will do it, and if not, they will just trade him elsewhere.

[weeks]

i'm with whoever said this...if PATFO came cheap before any of this happened they deserve to get roasted...after 12:01 there's simply no excuse for being cheap on your MVP back to back DPOY finals MVP..
but kawhi quit on this team. no doubt in my mind.

[exstatic]

There won’t be a trade until at least LeBron makes his move. PATFO can easily wait that out, and then make theirs. .

[rasuo214]

Can someone tell me how the fuck LeBron letting the Cavs know he will opt out gives the Lakers leverage? Pretty sure that was always the plan or where those same media members pumping out their "where will Lebron end up" stories while assuming he opts in?

Well if Lebron didn't opt out it could screw over the Lakers off-season plans. I'm guessing the thinking was the Lakers needed to make a move before the deadline to ensure that Lebron opts out to come to LA. Now that the deadline isn't an issue they have more time to see what Lebron wants and what they need to do to get him. Which lessens the pressure to trade for Kawhi right now.

[MannyIsGod]

Is it safe to burn my Kawhi shit yet?

[ducks]

Why would anyone think Kawhi gives a shit about politics? He probably wouldn't even know Trump was President if it wasn't for Pop.

A good USA citizen and parent would care about this country direction is going. I want this country better for my kids

[dabom]

There won’t be a trade until at least LeBron makes his move. PATFO can easily wait that out, and then make theirs. .

[ducks]

Is it safe to burn my Kawhi shit yet?

Can Leonard wipe his ass yet

[Spurs9]

If LA Really is lowballing the fuck out of us, you trade Kawhi to another team, even if it is a slightly lesser package. A lot can happen in a year. Maybe Kawhi changes his mind after experiencing success with Philly or whoever. But don’t trade him to the Lakersfor a lowball offer. Unless they’re giving up a shit ton of assets, fuck the Lakers.

The same discussion was happening with PG last year, everyone saying, he will just end up in LA. Now after playing there he will most likely stay. There are plenty of teams who will roll the dice and think they can get him to stay after a year. Even moreso now with the cap situation being bad, so the way these teams can get players is via trade. Once the cap dries up more, maybe theres even more value in teams doing trades.

[rasuo214]

it's all projection

his uncle has wanted him in LA for awhile, they turned down a healthy jordan deal bc it was too low...this is purely about $$

It's 100% about money for his uncle and agent. Not sure if it is for Kawhi.

[MannyIsGod]

I get the Spurs don't want Ball, but surely they can flip him for something of value, right? He's gotta have more value than Kuzma.

[weeks]

damn this really is the darkest timeline for the spurs post-duncan...we're looking at giving up kawhi to the lakers and acting like it might not be that bad
don't fool yourselves, this is gonna be brutal for us the next few years

[Mugen]

I get the Spurs don't want Ball, but surely they can flip him for something of value, right? He's gotta have more value than Kuzma.

Lavar just tanked Lonzo's trade value with that torn meniscus news earlier :lol

[MannyIsGod]

The Spurs will make the playoffs. They might even get a 3 seed depending on how things turn out. They'll be worth rooting for. They aren't likely to win any rings, but honestly being a competitive team isn't the worst thing in the world.

[weeks]

It's 100% about money for his uncle and agent. Not sure if it is for Kawhi.

i actually agree with you, LA never seemed to appeal to a quiet autist like kawhi..
but at this point, is there any real reason to make a distinction between kawhi and his uncle/agent? they seem to be pulling the strings..dude was holding his hand in NYC...wont let him meet pop alone...
what it's about for his uncle is what it's about for kawhi. we heard it from the beginning of the troubles, kawhi was about his family, and his family was not the spurs.
he's gonna follow the advice of his uncle to the tune of $80 million

[Mugen]

The Spurs would actually be most fucked if the Lakers got NOBODY tbh.

[MannyIsGod]

Lavar just tanked Lonzo's trade value with that torn meniscus news earlier :lol

He didn't though. The injury is old news and he'll be fine by training camp. Any team that traded for him was always going to know about it. I'm sure they're trying to scare the Spurs off from getting him or any other team but really it's not a revelation.

[Mugen]

He didn't though. The injury is old news and he'll be fine by training camp. Any team that traded for him was always going to know about it. I'm sure they're trying to scare the Spurs off from getting him or any other team but really it's not a revelation.

Yeah but just announcing it 2 days before free agency when his kid's name has been in trade rumors all week is just a stark reminder that Lonzo comes with a TON of baggage tbh.

[BatManu20]

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[Spurs9]

Its going to be hilarious that in the last hour RC tells the Lakers, we are out and then they accept the Philly offer.

[objective]

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Wow

:lol

[rasuo214]

i actually agree with you, LA never seemed to appeal to a quiet autist like kawhi..
but at this point, is there any real reason to make a distinction between kawhi and his uncle/agent? they seem to be pulling the strings..dude was holding his hand in NYC...wont let him meet pop alone...
what it's about for his uncle is what it's about for kawhi. we heard it from the beginning of the troubles, kawhi was about his family, and his family was not the spurs.
he's gonna follow the advice of his uncle to the tune of $80 million

Yea it's unfortunate. If his uncle wasn't around, Kawhi and the Spurs likely would have been fine. The fact that the uncle won't leave Kawhi's side shows that he's trying to control things and is worried and probably sells it to Kawhi as having Kawhi's back/protecting him or whatever BS.

It's like having a controlling girlfriend that tries to isolate you from your friends and family so they can get more control over you.

[weeks]

it really is appalling how many of these laker scrubs are ass-ugly..
i thought ugly scrubs were the providence of the spurs more than la la

[Hoops Czar]

i'm with whoever said this...if PATFO came cheap before any of this happened they deserve to get roasted...after 12:01 there's simply no excuse for being cheap on your MVP back to back DPOY finals MVP..
but kawhi quit on this team. no doubt in my mind.


Kyle Anderson or Tony Parker better not be this year's 12:01.

[weeks]

Yea it's unfortunate. If his uncle wasn't around, Kawhi and the Spurs likely would have been fine. The fact that the uncle won't leave Kawhi's side shows that he's trying to control things and is worried and probably sells it to Kawhi as having Kawhi's back/protecting him or whatever BS.

It's like having a controlling girlfriend that tries to isolate you from your friends and family so they can get more control over you.

the not letting him meet pop thing said it all IMO..
pop and kawhi's personal relationship was probably the biggest threat to their schemes...couldn't leave those two in a room alone together

[ducks]

I get the Spurs don't want Ball, but surely they can flip him for something of value, right? He's gotta have more value than Kuzma.

Thomas not gm now

[vander]

Yet here you are bitching about a basketball player

Link?

[baseline bum]

I get the Spurs don't want Ball, but surely they can flip him for something of value, right? He's gotta have more value than Kuzma.

It would have to be a three way trade. Otherwise the Spurs would be stuck with the BBB crew for a few months until he could be legally traded I think.

[Mugen]

Fultz/RoCo/Sarich/Miami Pick for Kawhi/Patty. I'm sold, let's fucking do it Brett.

[Spurs9]

Fultz/RoCo/Sarich/Miami Pick for Kawhi/Patty. I'm sold, let's fucking do it Brett.

Add in Smith

[marinoman]

So many attention whores and their "sources”. Be as general as possible thatll make it believable

[ducks]

Jesus christ can you stfu and go suck Trumps carrot in the political forum with your barely able to form a sentence ass

I can fix computers in 5 languages can you?

[weeks]

Kyle Anderson or Tony Parker better not be this year's 12:01.

incoming MVParker deal for 4 years

[NASpurs]

I've missed the last 15 pages or so and I feel like I'm walking in the middle of a movie, just lost and only knowing the basic synopsis.

[baseline bum]

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I don't know what anyone sees in Ingram other than the name on the front of the jersey.

[weeks]

I've missed the last 15 pages or so and I feel like I'm walking in the middle of a movie, just lost and only knowing the basic synopsis.

just ask yourself this; is your body ready for kawhi's first 50 point game in the purple and gold?

[baseline bum]

I've missed the last 15 pages or so and I feel like I'm walking in the middle of a movie, just lost and only knowing the basic synopsis.

* Parker's comment last straw
* Leonard still a faggot

[Mr. Body]

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Ouch.

[Ice009]

Add in Smith

Yep, add in Smith too.

[Mugen]

Not having Smith isn't a dealbreaker. Get Fultz and the Miami pick and let's get this shit over with.

I also think Cancer Mute would re-up in Philly, Sixers would make that trade any day of the week.

[marinoman]

No point in trading for meh talent, guys like that are always available in free agency, fuck all this kuzma, ingram, saric, covington, harris, morris, top 15 draft picks talk

[ace3g]

The true reason behind the Kawhi/Spurs turmoil ...

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[weeks]

Not having Smith isn't a dealbreaker. Get Fultz and the Miami pick and let's get this shit over with.

I also think Cancer Mute would re-up in Philly, Sixers would make that trade any day of the week.

yeah isn't his uncle from philly or something?
get it done mitch

[NASpurs]

* Parker's comment last straw
* Leonard still a faggot


just ask yourself this; is your body ready for kawhi's first 50 point game in the purple and gold?

Fucking Parker :lol and Ball is out with a torn meniscus :lmao

Other than that, nothing has changed.

[spurraider21]

Fultz/RoCo/Sarich/Miami Pick for Kawhi/Patty. I'm sold, let's fucking do it Brett.
yep

[Hoops Czar]

This love affair with Fultz is mindblowing. His numbers are worse than Ingrams. a TS% 416 % - yuck :lol

[BatManu20]

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[marinoman]

The true reason behind the Kawhi/Spurs turmoil ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg6Lh5yVQAcAd7N.jpg:large
Great Scott!!

[Mr. Body]

This love affair with Fultz is mindblowing. His numbers are worse than Ingrams. a TS% 416 % - yuck :lol

Not defending him, but that was like nine games, man.

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He's always been a piece of crap

Rich. Very.

[BatManu20]

This love affair with Fultz is mindblowing. His numbers are worse than Ingrams. a TS% 416 % - yuck :lol

He played what, like 10 games this season..? WAY too small a sample size to determine anything. He was rusty as hell when he came back from injury and out of rhythm too. And the kid just turned 20 last month. There’s definitely upside there.

I’d much rather do that deal than send him to the fucking Lakers.

[Hoops Czar]

He played what, like 10 games this season..? WAY too small a sample size to determine anything. He Was rusty as hell when he came back from injury and out of rhythm. And the kids just turned 20 last month. There’s definitely upside there.

And I’d much rather do that deal than send him to the fucking Lakers.


Fair enough but Ingram is only 20 too.

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Their fantasy is to one day see Kawhi at a press conference with a MAGA hat and t-shirt proclaiming how offended he was by Pop anti-Trump rhetoric.

With the cornrows unleashed, no doubt.

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[apalisoc_9]

This gonna reach 500 pages?

:lol

[rasuo214]

In case anyone was wondering what the win shares were for the players mentioned from LA and Philly:

Ingram WS: 2.5 (4254 mins) WS/48 = .028

Kuzma WS: 3.8 (2401 mins) WS/48 = .077

Ball WS: 2.0 (1780 mins) WS/48 = .053

Hart WS: 3.4 (1461 mins) WS/48 = .111



Saric WS: 7.6 (4439 mins) WS/48 = .082

Fultz WS: 0.2 (253 mins) WS/48 = .043

Covington WS: 15.3 (8544 mins) WS/48 = .086

[BillMc]

Nobody disrupts Ramona's feeding time. NOBODY.
:lol

[NASpurs]

I skimmed through like the last 15 pages. Too much shit.

Didn't see this cryptic shit from Ben Simmons.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/sites/csnphilly/files/2018/06/29/image_from_ios.png

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I skimmed through like the last 15 pages. Too much shit.

Didn't see this cryptic shit from Ben Simmons.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/sites/csnphilly/files/2018/06/29/image_from_ios.png

What does this mean?

EDIT:

Oh, I see

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[marinoman]

I skimmed through like the last 15 pages. Too much shit.

Didn't see this cryptic shit from Ben Simmons.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/sites/csnphilly/files/2018/06/29/image_from_ios.png
What’s fp?
king James v fresh prince?

[Mr. Body]

King James x Fresh Prince?

[bklynspursfan]

What does this mean?

King James and Fresh Prince (what Simmons calls himself)

[NASpurs]

What does this mean?

Don't know what the "x" means but it means King James x Fresh Prince (which is what Simmons is going by).

[cjw]

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Aren’t they all cheering for the Warriors now anyway?

[Spurs da champs]

King James x Fresh Prince, it means they're teaming up.

[Leetonidas]

I hope Bron goes to Philly. Fuck LA. He still wouldn't get past GS anyway with George and Leonard

[Mr. Body]

Kawhi to Philly would make me sick, but not nearly as sick as LA.

[Dancelot]

The true reason behind the Kawhi/Spurs turmoil ...

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:lol Nice!

[weeks]

no joke this thread is going so fast and i use ST rarely enough it took me this long to finally get to the last page of the thread

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The Spurs would actually be most fucked if the Lakers got NOBODY tbh.

Yep. I've been hoping they get Bron and/or PG actually.

They'll be really good but not championship good. Meanwhile, they'll not have room to sign Kawhi to anything max valueish and field much of a team at all.

[baseline bum]

I can fix computers in 5 languages can you?

Can you speak one though?

[ducks]

Can you speak one though?

Computer

[NASpurs]

Don't know where to post this but wtf :lol

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[BatManu20]

While doubtful, it’d be great if some random team came out of nowhere and offered a shit ton of assets so we could get the over with. Spurs somehow pull a fair-ish trade out of their ass, Kawhi isn’t on the Lakers this season, and we get to move on from this nightmare.

[ducks]

Report: Cavaliers would’ve traded Kevin Love for Paul George if LeBron James committed long-term last summer
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-cavaliers-ve-traded-kevin-200301073.html

[weeks]

While doubtful, it’d be great if some random team came out of nowhere and offered a shit ton of assets so we could get the over with. Spurs somehow pull a fair-ish trade out of their ass, Kawhi isn’t on the Lakers this season, and we get to move on from this nightmare.

you know as well as i do that rc is gonna cave

[ducks]

Don't know where to post this but wtf :lol

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They know they can not resign everyone
Jordan would be under contract

[Hoops Czar]

Report: Cavaliers would’ve traded Kevin Love for Paul George if LeBron James committed long-term last summer
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-cavaliers-ve-traded-kevin-200301073.html
Lateral move, tbh

[ducks]

Heck help warriors out trade Leonard for curry

[Mugen]

I'm betting RC and Pop cave tomorrow. I hope i'm wrong tbh.

[baseline bum]

Might as well ruin the NBA even more if you can't get anything useful in trade for Kawhi

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[ducks]

Might as well ruin the NBA even more if you can't get anything useful in trade for Kawhi

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lol if silver approved that trade

[look_at_g_shred]

Idk man I’m buzzin rn but let’s just offer Kawhi the max.

[baseline bum]

lol if silver approved that trade

He couldn't stop it.

[Hoops Czar]

Might as well ruin the NBA even more if you can't get anything useful in trade for Kawhi

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You have not affected the Win percentage of this team. :lol

[midnightpulp]

Lebron is proving himself to be such a cliché wanting (presumably) to play for the Lakers. If he really wants to live in LA per his wife wishes, why not the Clippers? Imagine the legacy boost if he merely got that franchise to the Finals.

[BatManu20]

I'm betting RC and Pop cave tomorrow. I hope i'm wrong tbh.


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[BatManu20]

If we cave and trade Kawhi for a shit package tommorow, RC should resign on the spot.

[Lostwingman]

just ask yourself this; is your body ready for kawhi's first 50 point game in the purple and gold?

Well shit, you're really selling me on damning the future and fucking the lakers.

[sasaint]

While doubtful, it’d be great if some random team came out of nowhere and offered a shit ton of assets so we could get the over with. Spurs somehow pull a fair-ish trade out of their ass, Kawhi isn’t on the Lakers this season, and we get to move on from this nightmare.

I love a story with a happy ending. :toast

[midnightpulp]

If we cave and trade Kawhi for a shit package tommorow, RC should resign on the spot.

I'll resign my Spurs and NBA fandom. There's nothing more disinteresting and cliched than a Lakers superteam, and if the Spurs help create it, fuck them. NBA coverage will also be unwatchable due to the media fellating the Lakers' "revival."

[dbreiden83080]

Kawhi to Philly would make me sick, but not nearly as sick as LA.

I truly believe that we have seen the best of him. He will bomb wherever he goes. Oh sure he might have a good two or three months next season.. But not an entire season. He is soft, doesn’t have what it takes to be a true great player. He will fold.

[spurs10]

I'm betting RC and Pop cave tomorrow. I hope i'm wrong tbh. I don't see the motivation unless their feelings have changed from being miffed to true hatred for him. Why cave? I just don't see the upside, Why not make him play, getting a year out of him or just suing him if he doesn't show seems more like the Spurs to me. Cave? Why? If we walk with something sweet, that ain't folding.

[Budkin]

I'll resign my Spurs and NBA fandom. There's nothing more disinteresting and cliched than a Lakers superteam, and if the Spurs help create it, fuck them. NBA coverage will also be unwatchable due to the media fellating the Lakers' "revival."

This. The league is already unwatchable.

[marinoman]

More and more reading the shit offers makes me wanna keep kawhi. Dare him to sit again.

[objective]

I don't see the motivation unless their feelings have changed from being miffed to true hatred for him. Why cave? I just don't see the upside, Why not make him play, getting a year out of him or just suing him if he doesn't show seems more like the Spurs to me. Cave? Why? If we walk with something sweet, that ain't folding.

I'm worried about Pop and RC folding also.

They are historically very good to players. Too good, they don't treat players like assets.

When they had control over players with Qualifying Offers like Simmons and Joseph ... They gave in and let them get their money, withdrawing the offers.

Maybe they can't take the heat.

Maybe they've grown soft.

20 years ago they would have had Jabari fired for stepping out of line.

[Lostwingman]

I'm worried about Pop and RC folding also.

They are historically very good to players. Too good, they don't treat players like assets.

When they had control over players with Qualifying Offers like Simmons and Joseph ... They gave in and let them get their money, withdrawing the offers.

Maybe they can't take the heat.

Maybe they've grown soft.

20 years ago they would have had Jabari fired for stepping out of line.

Yo but Kawhi was robbed of a career :downspin:

[Birn]

I don't understand why so many experts think that the Spurs lost leverage when LBJ made his decision to opt out.

The Spurs have the leverage here. In fact, their position grows stronger the longer they wait out. If LBJ comes out early and says he plans to join the Lakers, then the Spurs have even more leverage since the Lakers will be desperate to build a super team. The Lakers would have to act quickly since OKC will be pushing Paul George to take their max offer. In order to be appealing to both LBJ and PG, they need to desperately get KL in the fold which would mean giving the Spurs what they want. The way I see it, I just don't think the Spurs have any interest in helping the Lakers become a super team in the WC. That would make no sense to the Spurs. They don't want to weaken their competitiveness in the WC, which is already becoming more and more highly competitive. I just don't see any deal with the Lakers happening.

I wouldn't pay attention to any of the media reports that say the Spurs are "ready to move on" and have "given up" trying to repair the relationship with KL. As many of you well know, there are numerous journalists who are close to KL's group and are trying to create a narrative that places public pressure on the Spurs to do something now. The fact is that the Spurs are not going to be pressured to make any decisions. They will operate solely on their timeline and they will stay disciplined to that. If a great offer is presented that they think will help the team they'll do it. They just aren't going to gift KL to the Lakers like so many media "experts" would like to see.


I wouldn't be surprised at all for the Spurs to just sit tight and keep KL and inform him that they expect him to fulfill the final year of his contract. The Spurs may be better off keeping him and trying to convince him to sign long term. I would rather keep him and try to convince him to stay instead of trading him somewhere else so another team can try to convince him to stay. Worst case, he says he doesn't plan to stick around and we get what we can by the February trade deadline. A lot can happen between now and then. Even if we only get a pick and a marginal player, at least the Spurs can then focus on doing a full rebuild next season. With him on the roster, we actually would be able to legitimately contend for a championship - yes, we could actually beat the Rockets and Warriors with KL on board.

The best case scenario is the Spurs actually convince KL to stay long term and he signs an extension.


The Spurs are in control and have the leverage.

[rascal]

I don't understand why so many experts think that the Spurs lost leverage when LBJ made his decision to opt out.

The Spurs have the leverage here. In fact, their position grows stronger the longer they wait out. If LBJ comes out early and says he plans to join the Lakers, then the Spurs have even more leverage since the Lakers will be desperate to build a super team. The Lakers would have to act quickly since OKC will be pushing Paul George to take their max offer. In order to be appealing to both LBJ and PG, they need to desperately get KL in the fold which would mean giving the Spurs what they want. The way I see it, I just don't think the Spurs have any interest in helping the Lakers become a super team in the WC. That would make no sense to the Spurs. They don't want to weaken their competitiveness in the WC, which is already becoming more and more highly competitive. I just don't see any deal with the Lakers happening.

I wouldn't pay attention to any of the media reports that say the Spurs are "ready to move on" and have "given up" trying to repair the relationship with KL. As many of you well know, there are numerous journalists who are close to KL's group and are trying to create a narrative that places public pressure on the Spurs to do something now. The fact is that the Spurs are not going to be pressured to make any decisions. They will operate solely on their timeline and they will stay disciplined to that. If a great offer is presented that they think will help the team they'll do it. They just aren't going to gift KL to the Lakers like so many media "experts" would like to see.


I wouldn't be surprised at all for the Spurs to just sit tight and keep KL and inform him that they expect him to fulfill the final year of his contract. The Spurs may be better off keeping him and trying to convince him to sign long term. I would rather keep him and try to convince him to stay instead of trading him somewhere else so another team can try to convince him to stay. Worst case, he says he doesn't plan to stick around and we get what we can by the February trade deadline. A lot can happen between now and then. Even if we only get a pick and a marginal player, at least the Spurs can then focus on doing a full rebuild next season. With him on the roster, we actually would be able to legitimately contend for a championship - yes, we could actually beat the Rockets and Warriors with KL on board.

The best case scenario is the Spurs actually convince KL to stay long term and he signs an extension.


The Spurs are in control and have the leverage.

No the Spurs are not in any control. If you keep Leonard then the Spurs are going to get back very little in any trades or nothing at all because Leonard is just going to sign with the Lakers after the season. There is no reason for Leonard to stay with a sinking ship as the Spurs will not be in contention with the Warriors or Houston and he has made it clear he wants out.

[Hoops Czar]

No the Spurs are not in any control. If you keep Leonard then the Spurs are going to get back very little in any trades or nothing at all because Leonard is just going to sign with the Lakers after the season. There is no reason for Leonard to stay with a sinking ship as the Spurs will not be in contention with the Warriors or Houston and he has made it clear he wants out.

There's a pretty good chance he would think hard about a supermax contract if he had to play out another season in San Antonio. He'd lose 80M guaranteed money and for a guy with a lot of injury woes throughout his career, it's a big deal.

[Birn]

The Spurs are in total control. No, the Lakers won't be able to sign KL next season. They'll have no cap room if they get LBJ and other FA's to sign this off-season. KL's options dry up once the Lakers fill out their roster this off-season. Maybe the Clippers will have room but not the Lakers.

If LBJ picks the Lakers, he runs the show. He's not going to keep a max salary slot open until next season. He wants to win now and isn't interested in waiting a year.

It's very possible LBJ resigns with the Cavs. If that happens, PG probably stays in OKC. That likely means that the Lakers will be in full tank mode again this next season unless they decide to pursue other FA's this off-season.

[marinoman]

There's a pretty good chance he would think hard about a supermax contract if he had to play out another season in San Antonio. He'd lose 80M guaranteed money and for a guy with a lot of injury woes throughout his career, it's a big deal.
But Kawhi is an artist, he doesn’t care about money.
Ignore the fact that he balked on a shoe deal that didn’t offer what he felt his value is

[Budkin]

The Spurs hardly ever made trades when they needed to at the trade deadlines of seasons past. Why would they all of a sudden make one now when they don’t need to?

[TekXX]

Yea the Spurs have never been a trigger happy club when it comes to trades.

[HankChinaski]

He's traded out east or plays out the season with the Spurs.

If both sides reconcile differences super max will be placed down an offered. I wouldn't be surprised they listened to Kawhi's perceived issues and said they would like to get together with the rest of the front office/coaching/medical staff to see what they MAY be able to do. BUT we (the Spurs) need some reassurances from you moving forward. We (the Spurs) still want you in a silver n black, but if you want to be traded after all that we will look at the best offers available to continue to make the franchise a marketable an competitive team if nothing can be worked out we need to not have this circus continue once training camp/preseason starts. The staff an players don't deserve to deal with this regardless whom is at fault.

Spurs will treat this as a business decision. Tell Kawhi to behave befitting a professional while still under contract, fulfill his contract till next summer, if you want to walk then walk. You pull last seasons BS with the team prepare for ramifications regarding playing time an another year of your prime wasted.

You want your medical staff to handle further issues, fine. We just want to be in the know with what they recommend perhaps our own staff has some suggestions as well.

That's my notion what will happen. Fans will be pissed watching him walk for nothing potentially.

I honestly don't know what will happen, just throwing hypotheticals out based on the organizations history. But I am taking everything I am hearing from the media with a grain salt. Until we (the fans) have R.C., Pop an Kawhi out in front on a mic addressing this issues I can't trust a single word that is cited by "sources".

Media narratives an the gullibility of their audience.

I personally like nba off season. So much happens from draft day to the first couple days of free agency. I like watching the Spurs an I like watching kawhi also. This last year is unfortunate in regards to the Spurs an Kawhi.

But I am not going to lose sleep over it or go emo an blast explicitives about a player or a organization in the ENTERTAINMENT Industry.

[objective]

Another plot point could be Parker clapping back. He probably knows a whole bunch of ish on Kawhi and his faking.

Spurs probably begging Parker to not go back at Kawhi and his kidnappers.

[BackHome]

271 pages and RC has not folded. Trust The Process. :bobo

[TimDunkem]

271 pages and RC has not folded. Trust The Process. :bobo

More like the guy has probably been passed out drunk in his car for the past two days.

[HankChinaski]

That's part of the process too.

[LakerHater]

There's a pretty good chance he would think hard about a supermax contract if he had to play out another season in San Antonio. He'd lose 80M guaranteed money and for a guy with a lot of injury woes throughout his career, it's a big deal.
Problem is, the Super Max isnt offered!

[toki9]

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[024]

Laker fans are already holding their noses up like Ingram is untouchable and the Spurs should be grateful with whatever the Lakers offer. I don't even want their trash assets, including Ingram. The Lakers drafted 3 low potential players in 3 straight years and now treating 2 of them like golden assets.

Just ship Leonard East to the highest bidder and be done with it.

[atlfan25]

No the Spurs are not in any control. If you keep Leonard then the Spurs are going to get back very little in any trades or nothing at all because Leonard is just going to sign with the Lakers after the season. There is no reason for Leonard to stay with a sinking ship as the Spurs will not be in contention with the Warriors or Houston and he has made it clear he wants out.

Imagine yourself as a GM early next season. Around a quarter way through the regular season, you team is a solid contender, but not on GS level(like Philly, Boston, hell any .600+ franchise not GS). Kawhi is still "toiling" away with the spurs, yet killing it. It's Dec/Jan, trade deadline looming. Would you trade heavy for Kawhi thinking he'd make you legit title contenders? Now if you're now good enough for the finals, isn't it reasonable for Kawhi to want to stay with a team who just went deep in the playoffs(after being traded mid-season)? Especially if the LA teams are still trash after getting nothing this off-season.

Basically, the "narrative" truly changes week to week until February 2019. If some reports are true, Kawhi truly cares about playing in a competitive locker-room for which he's also happy playing with. So if he hits it off with the new team, absolutely he would sign there long term. All is needed is a franchise desperate to win this next season, one with the pieces necessary to make a competitive trade.

[NickiRasgo]

Laker fans are already holding their noses up like Ingram is untouchable and the Spurs should be grateful with whatever the Lakers offer. I don't even want their trash assets, including Ingram. The Lakers drafted 3 low potential players in 3 straight years and now treating 2 of them like golden assets.

Just ship Leonard East to the highest bidder and be done with it.

If they didn't suck drafting a lottery players in the last few years, this could've been a done deal already.

[NickiRasgo]

Anybody here as well being anxious before going to sleep because of what might notify you of the apps installed in your phone related to NBA once you wake up? :lol

[Slippy]

There's a pretty good chance he would think hard about a supermax contract if he had to play out another season in San Antonio. He'd lose 80M guaranteed money and for a guy with a lot of injury woes throughout his career, it's a big deal.
This. Said this probable 100 or 200 hundred pages ago. Espn stating spurs have no leverage is only looking at it from lakers pov. Kawhis group would be crazy to go out into an FA market with his injury history. He got paid 20 mill for sitting & rehabbing. Why wouldnt he want that same security next season . Just to spite the spurs he won't care . Yah right as if.

[gambit1990]

degenerative disease.

[Lostwingman]

More like the guy has probably been passed out drunk in his car for the past two days.

It's how he plays hardball, acts like he's too busy to pick up the phone but really passed out.

[MoSpur02]

But Kawhi is an artist, he doesn’t care about money.
Ignore the fact that he balked on a shoe deal that didn’t offer what he felt his value is

It mostly definitely is about the money. They want the$219 million. They haven't been offered it from what I know. Not sure if that has changed, but I don't think it has been offered.

You can't ignore the shoe deal fact. They were very disappointed in the $20 million offer from Jordan. They felt he was worth more than that. So how can you say it's not about the money?

[picnroll]

If the Spurs cave and trade Leonard for peanuts what kind of precedent have they set for themselves? What is to stop the next Spurs player signed to a long term contract who feels like going somewhere else pulling the same ish and expecting the same results?

[tbdog]

Leonard signs the super max. Spurs won't offer super max unless he is on the same page. Leonard's group wants full control instead. So they request a trade to LA to make up the coin lost.

[venitian navigator]

It mostly definitely is about the money. They want the$219 million. They haven't been offered it from what I know. Not sure if that has changed, but I don't think it has been offered.

You can't ignore the shoe deal fact. They were very disappointed in the $20 million offer from Jordan. They felt he was worth more than that. So how can you say it's not about the money?

if its about money and deals, then ne and his group have chosen the best possible way to play their cards.
From the Spurs side because they made them lose confidence in the player and in his will more than his health (that they know well and have an opinion on). So he probably loses the max offer and the Spurs are right in asking at least a declaration of will before offering him any extension...no reason to go on with a disgruntled player and in any case that's never been Spurs policy (See Deadmon, Simmons).

From the Lakers side because they are now in the situation to risk not only this season outcoming but also next one...'couse its becoming clearer and clearer that their (probably tampering) plan was from the beginning to form a super team of LBJ, PG and Kiwhi. The point is that the plan is all in danger now that's been discovered (see Simmons on the doctors research, plus the declarations from magic on kiwhi and from lakers on the non tampering policy) So spurs have every reason to play it hard with Lakers. And moreso considering LBJ and PG are probably both sold on the idea of the three amigos (in fact they made the necessary first step to became both free agents), but only for long term contracts (LBJ is 34 and PG has already been badly injured) and with the assurance that Kiwhi will already be there. That's why, talking about leverage, Spurs have the leverage...if I'm LBJ or PG no way I still sign again a 1+1 deal...putting all the injury risk on myself. Expecially 'cause they have alternatives of 4/5 years contracts from other more competitive teams (both have reasoned on the perspective to be highly competitive next season). So then Lakers have to make a godfather proposal, otherwise...bye bye Magic. And if I have to sell Kawhi, I sell him to someone else in then east.

From dealing perspective with companies...simply bacause he his losing steps on his image...that will from now on possibly be considered the one of a not reliable player, both from a phisical stanpoint and from an ethical standpoint. In any case playing games with your health status, from a sportsman market standpoint, can have the one and only effect to lower your value from all points of wiew.

[venitian navigator]

...obviously when I say best way I'm sarcastical...

[kobyz]

i don't have any blame for kawhi, since the 2014 title spurs management and pop is such a mess, not having the desire and care for winning with so much too cute act!
leave kawhi alone, he is justifiably want out of here!!

[spursistan]

Who would thought that Kawhi went from being Uncle-Tom in SA to a powerful inspiration for black culture in LA..."his family is a prority" "he never forgot where he came from.."

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LA guys are creating a pretty damn good narrative for him...That #freekawhi and all.

We get it; you are a fanboy. Go follow him there with toilet paper in hand.

We are a few dignified Spurs fans looking forward to move on from his bitch ass to a new era. We are not interested anymore in your lame propaganda and semen-shielding for this faggot.

Lakersground beckons your ilk, you slavish playerfan.

PS. And I think I may have found out your faggotty twitter persona the other day..Holly hell what a concentration of player semen-shield and apologia..The same smarmy broken record in the entire timeline..

Don't you get ashamed of calling yourself a Spur fan while you all do is cape for one player 24/7? :lmao..

https://twitter.com/2PAC_KL2/with_replies

[spurschamps99030507]

I can guarantee that someone who lives outside the United States, the spurs mean more than basketball with what they have done in the last 20 years, everything. It is a way of doing things, it is culture, it has been a continuous success. No one can defend what the rat and his group are doing, not now, for months. I think that when you leave your teammates, when you disappear, when you are the leader and you give up and behave in an anti professional manner, at a sporting and economic level, you are a scam as a player. He doesnt deserve respect. This organization is not the chaos as it was sacramento kings (demarcus cousins).


This coward never came face to face, fix problems face to face or say this I dont like this or that, has boycotted the organization that has made it what it was, did not appear in the playoffs, days after the elimination appears in a baseball game in LA, he verbally told danny green that he wanted to stay lied again. Before meeting with popovich, he filters the press that wants to go to the lakers. If this rat has done this to the organization that put him in a position of success, what he can not make to one of the other 29 teams in the league?


Offer of the lakers, sixers or clippers ... simply garbage, trash, the only team that has valuable players are the celtics.


The spurs can not run, fuck the lakers, if there is no good offer......fuck the rat and uncle dennis and play in preseason with the team, force him to show up.

[kobyz]

I can guarantee that someone who lives outside the United States, the spurs mean more than basketball with what they have done in the last 20 years, everything. It is a way of doing things, it is culture, it has been a continuous success. No one can defend what the rat and his group are doing, not now, for months. I think that when you leave your teammates, when you disappear, when you are the leader and you give up and behave in an anti professional manner, at a sporting and economic level, you are a scam as a player. He doesnt deserve respect. This organization is not the chaos as it was sacramento kings (demarcus cousins).


This coward never came face to face, fix problems face to face or say this I dont like this or that, has boycotted the organization that has made it what it was, did not appear in the playoffs, days after the elimination appears in a baseball game in LA, he verbally told danny green that he wanted to stay lied again. Before meeting with popovich, he filters the press that wants to go to the lakers. If this rat has done this to the organization that put him in a position of success, what he can not make to one of the other 29 teams in the league?


Offer of the lakers, sixers or clippers ... simply garbage, trash, the only team that has valuable players are the celtics.


The spurs can not run, fuck the lakers, if there is no good offer......fuck the rat and uncle dennis and play in preseason with the team, force him to show up.

Pop and managemant gave up on this team and winning long ago, can you blame kawhi for losing trust in them?

[SupremeGuy]

FORCE AUTISTIC BITCH TO SHOW UP.

[SupremeGuy]

Pop and managemant gave up on this team and winning long ago, can you blame kawhi for losing trust in them?I can't wait for you to deal with this retard.

[spurschamps99030507]

Pop and managemant gave up on this team and winning long ago, can you blame kawhi for losing trust in them?

sorry friend, I give you arguments, he left the team in the regular season, if you are defending that and the rest, I think you have not analyzed the problem.

[polandprzem]

2morrow is July- quite important month tbh

[sammy]

I can guarantee that someone who lives outside the United States, the spurs mean more than basketball with what they have done in the last 20 years, everything. It is a way of doing things, it is culture, it has been a continuous success. No one can defend what the rat and his group are doing, not now, for months. I think that when you leave your teammates, when you disappear, when you are the leader and you give up and behave in an anti professional manner, at a sporting and economic level, you are a scam as a player. He doesnt deserve respect. This organization is not the chaos as it was sacramento kings (demarcus cousins).:bobo


This coward never came face to face, fix problems face to face or say this I dont like this or that, has boycotted the organization that has made it what it was, did not appear in the playoffs, days after the elimination appears in a baseball game in LA, he verbally told danny green that he wanted to stay lied again. Before meeting with popovich, he filters the press that wants to go to the lakers. If this rat has done this to the organization that put him in a position of success, what he can not make to one of the other 29 teams in the league?


Offer of the lakers, sixers or clippers ... simply garbage, trash, the only team that has valuable players are the celtics.


The spurs can not run, fuck the lakers, if there is no good offer......fuck the rat and uncle dennis and play in preseason with the team, force him to show up.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I can guarantee that someone who lives outside the United States, the spurs mean more than basketball with what they have done in the last 20 years, everything. It is a way of doing things, it is culture, it has been a continuous success. No one can defend what the rat and his group are doing, not now, for months. I think that when you leave your teammates, when you disappear, when you are the leader and you give up and behave in an anti professional manner, at a sporting and economic level, you are a scam as a player. He doesnt deserve respect. This organization is not the chaos as it was sacramento kings (demarcus cousins).


This coward never came face to face, fix problems face to face or say this I dont like this or that, has boycotted the organization that has made it what it was, did not appear in the playoffs, days after the elimination appears in a baseball game in LA, he verbally told danny green that he wanted to stay lied again. Before meeting with popovich, he filters the press that wants to go to the lakers. If this rat has done this to the organization that put him in a position of success, what he can not make to one of the other 29 teams in the league?


Offer of the lakers, sixers or clippers ... simply garbage, trash, the only team that has valuable players are the celtics.


The spurs can not run, fuck the lakers, if there is no good offer......fuck the rat and uncle dennis and play in preseason with the team, force him to show up.

:tu

What a snake he turned out to be.

[kobyz]

sorry friend, I give you arguments, he left the team in the regular season, if you are defending that and the rest, I think you have not analyzed the problem.

i think Pop and maganemant is the problem!

[spurschamps99030507]

i think Pop and maganemant is the problem!

arguments against an abstract definition, again Popovich RC may have been wrong in some things but they do not use the press as a tool to throw shit, they fix the problems privately, if it is okay for you that a player leaves his teammates, leave them down in the playoffs, appear later in a baseball game, continually filter the press you want to go before talking face to face with popovich, tell danny green verbally that he want to stay and keep lying.


Acting in a coordinated way with the fakers and espn every day in throwing shit, who never had the intention of fixing problems in private, someone who acts like that, that his teammates felt cheated, seriously with a line that the management popovich is the problem with all this that I said before, really?

he has boycotted the franchise, at a sporting and economic level, they have acted in a deferential way, they have acted in the back as traitors. They have destroyed the sporting possibilities filtering the press before the face to face with pop that wants to go to the lakers, after all this, he is not a professional, he has no values, he has no ethics.

he hides behind his uncle, a man faces the problems, everyone has seen that the rat and his group have been doing for months and now we see his true face.


I dont give a shit about this rat and his group, they dont deserve respect, the only thing that matters to me is that the franchise can get good players in return. But the lakers have garbage, clippers and sixers more trash. The only team celtics but they do not want to trade to tatum or brown then fuck the rat. Before making a ridiculous trade as the cavs did last season, forcing this rat to appear in the preseason.

[picnroll]

Some people are so gullible. If this all shakes out and Lebron, PG and Kawhi all land on the Lakers they’ll think it’s just a coincidence, Leornard was mistreated, that the three and their groups didn’t stage the whole thing.

[LkrFan]

Lebron is proving himself to be such a cliché wanting (presumably) to play for the Lakers. If he really wants to live in LA per his wife wishes, why not the Clippers? Imagine the legacy boost if he merely got that franchise to the Finals.

:lol

[LkrFan]

I'll resign my Spurs and NBA fandom. There's nothing more disinteresting and cliched than a Lakers superteam, and if the Spurs help create it, fuck them. NBA coverage will also be unwatchable due to the media fellating the Lakers' "revival."

:lol

[kobyz]

arguments against an abstract definition, again Popovich RC may have been wrong in some things but they do not use the press as a tool to throw shit, they fix the problems privately, if it is okay for you that a player leaves his teammates, leave them down in the playoffs, appear later in a baseball game, continually filter the press you want to go before talking face to face with popovich, tell danny green verbally that he want to stay and keep lying.


Acting in a coordinated way with the fakers and espn every day in throwing shit, who never had the intention of fixing problems in private, someone who acts like that, that his teammates felt cheated, seriously with a line that the management popovich is the problem with all this that I said before, really?

he has boycotted the franchise, at a sporting and economic level, they have acted in a deferential way, they have acted in the back as traitors. They have destroyed the sporting possibilities filtering the press before the face to face with pop that wants to go to the lakers, after all this, he is not a professional, he has no values, he has no ethics.

he hides behind his uncle, a man faces the problems, everyone has seen that the rat and his group have been doing for months and now we see his true face.


I dont give a shit about this rat and his group, they dont deserve respect, the only thing that matters to me is that the franchise can get good players in return. But the lakers have garbage, clippers and sixers more trash. The only team celtics but they do not want to trade to tatum or brown then fuck the rat. Before making a ridiculous trade as the cavs did last season, forcing this rat to appear in the preseason.

i don't care about all the yellow stuff, i care about the essence and main thing, to me kawhi rightfully wants to leave, he feel betrayed, he was all about winning all those years while FO and Pop was too cute, care about image of the team and not enough about winning...

[picnroll]

i don't care about all the yellow stuff, i care about the essence and main thing, to me kawhi rightfully wants to leave, he feel betrayed, he was all about winning all those years while FO and Pop was too cute, care about image of the team and not enough about winning...
I guess you missed the part where they tried to recruit CP3 last year and Pop tried to get a meeting with Lebron this year.

[kobyz]

I guess you missed the part where they tried to recruit CP3 last year and Pop tried to get a meeting with Lebron this year.

too late!

[LkrFan]

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:lol

[Spurs da champs]

I guess you missed the part where they tried to recruit CP3 last year and Pop tried to get a meeting with Lebron this year.

Yup, Lamarcus screwed up chance at CP3 and Kiwi did so with LBJ.

[spurschamps99030507]

i don't care about all the yellow stuff, i care about the essence and main thing, to me kawhi rightfully wants to leave, he feel betrayed, he was all about winning all those years while FO and Pop was too cute, care about image of the team and not enough about winning...

look, what I've told you before are facts, what you're trying to say, I do not know exactly what it is.


So with the disaster that cavs made in the last few years, Lebron James should have left his teammates thrown away, pretend an injury and disappear?


It is not professional what the rat has done to the organization and his teammates, you still do not respond to the facts that I have related before

[picnroll]

Pop has too much class to ever call out Lentard. If it was him pulling this ish with the Lakers he’d be thrown under the Buss.

[cjw]

So with the disaster that cavs made in the last few years, Lebron James should have left his teammates thrown away, pretend an injury and disappear?

Picture an alternate universe where another top star pulled this. He’d be getting roasted by the media. Somehow Kawhi gets a free pass because he hasn’t been polarizing in the past.

Imagine if Durant did this to the Thunder and then walked? Or if Lebron did this to the Cavs last year? Or Kyrie to the Cavs the prior year? Or George to the Pacers (who came back from a FAR more gruesome injury)?

[picnroll]

Picture an alternate universe where another top star pulled this. He’d be getting roasted by the media. Somehow Kawhi gets a free pass because he hasn’t been polarizing in the past.

Imagine if Durant did this to the Thunder and then walked? Or if Lebron did this to the Cavs last year? Or Kyrie to the Cavs the prior year? Or George to the Pacers (who came back from a FAR more gruesome injury)?
Large part of the pass is because he’s trying to go to the Lakers. Press wants their Lakers super team. Lebron’s doing it in a way to deflect much criticism and protect his reputation. Lentard is autistic and doesn’t care about his rep, his uncle figures the media will go along with his ruse.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Picture an alternate universe where another top star pulled this. He’d be getting roasted by the media. Somehow Kawhi gets a free pass because he hasn’t been polarizing in the past.

Imagine if Durant did this to the Thunder and then walked? Or if Lebron did this to the Cavs last year? Or Kyrie to the Cavs the prior year? Or George to the Pacers (who came back from a FAR more gruesome injury)?

Hey! You'll hurt snake's feelings. Don't say things like this.

[Clipper Nation]

Picture an alternate universe where another top star pulled this. He’d be getting roasted by the media. Somehow Kawhi gets a free pass because he hasn’t been polarizing in the past.

Imagine if Durant did this to the Thunder and then walked? Or if Lebron did this to the Cavs last year? Or Kyrie to the Cavs the prior year? Or George to the Pacers (who came back from a FAR more gruesome injury)?
Kyrie threatened to have season-ending surgery if the Cavs didn't trade him. This was swept under the rug in favor of blaming LeBron for "running him out of town."

Durbeta is one of the most media-protected superstars this sport has ever seen. There's nothing he could do that would make the media criticize him for more than a day or two at the most.

[dbreiden83080]

Pop and managemant gave up on this team and winning long ago, can you blame kawhi for losing trust in them?

What was their record last year even with this clown faking an injury all year long? What was their record the year prior? What you didn't like the Patty Mills deal or something LOL..

[spurschamps99030507]

i don't care about all the yellow stuff, i care about the essence and main thing, to me kawhi rightfully wants to leave, he feel betrayed, he was all about winning all those years while FO and Pop was too cute, care about image of the team and not enough about winning...


I refresh your memory, last season conference semifinal, vs rockets, game 6 in Houston no kiwi and no parker, the spurs win + 40 pts difference. conference finals game 1 vs gsw at oracle arena, spurs up +23 third quarter before zaza. so?


you said "the team and not enough about winning ..." absolutely not true

[JuneJive]

Of all the things, I still can't understand why wouldn't he address the media?

Guilty conscience is what I'm getting.

[sasaint]

Large part of the pass is because he’s trying to go to the Lakers. Press wants their Lakers super team. Lebron’s doing it in a way to deflect much criticism and protect his reputation. Lentard is autistic and doesn’t care about his rep, his uncle figures the media will go along with his ruse.

Yes, but it also has quite a bit to do with the fact that it is the Spurs he wants to ditch - a team for which the media has had to begrudgingly feign respect and now sees a convenient opportunity to knife in the back.

[Mr. Body]

Of all the things, I still can't understand why wouldn't he address the media?

Guilty conscience is what I'm getting.

You're asking why Kawhi isn't addressing the media? Kawhi Leonard?

[acoelho1]

We should continue to wait it out and the PG decision may also have an impact. If PG stays in OKC, eastern teams may be more inclined to trade for Kawhi since he also made it known that he wanted to go to LA. If he goes to the Lakers along with Lebron, it would pretty much close the door for Kawhi to sign as a free agent. We will never get equal value but the minimum should be 2 young players, 2 drafts picks and at least 1 of our bad contracts. Kawhi could go to the Clippers but good look winning a title that team. However, giving us a full year with Kawhi on the squad could get him back in the fold and I'm sure he will qualify again for the supermax next year. Kawhi doesn't have choice here... he's under contract!

[gambit1990]

Of all the things, I still can't understand why wouldn't he address the media?

Guilty conscience is what I'm getting.
he has no reason to.

doesn't help him from a business perspective.

[dbreiden83080]

i don't have any blame for kawhi, since the 2014 title spurs management and pop is such a mess, not having the desire and care for winning with so much too cute act!
leave kawhi alone, he is justifiably want out of here!!

Newsflash winning NBA titles is not easy. Spurs won 55 plus games plenty of times in the career of Duncan and never won the Chip..

[gambit1990]

all offseason i've thought it'd be better if the spurs go into the season w/ kawhi... but if kawhi wants to sit out then the spurs would have even less leverage.

>kawhi plays like the top 3 player he is... his stock goes up
>kawhi sits out, because he doesn't wanna be with the spurs or because his injury is still lingering... his stock goes down

it's tricky.

[kobyz]

Newsflash winning NBA titles is not easy. Spurs won 55 plus games plenty of times in the career of Duncan and never won the Chip..

yes winning NBA titles is not easy and that is why you need to give your all to try to win, somthing Pop didn't do at all since 2014 title, he was full of himself, he was lazy and being a soft pussy since! kawhi rightfully lose trust!

[dbreiden83080]

yes winning NBA titles is not easy and that is why you need to give your all to try to win, somthing Pop didn't do at all since 2014 title, he was full of himself, he was lazy and being a soft pussy since! kawhi rightfully lose trust!

Was this team not in the conference finals last time Leonard was healthy? Did they not win 60 games? Leonard got hurt and they lost the series. This year he sat out and they still made the playoffs. Give me facts as to why they are not committed to winning? The record says they are. The results says they are.

[spurschamps99030507]

yes winning NBA titles is not easy and that is why you need to give your all to try to win, somthing Pop didn't do at all since 2014 title, he was full of himself, he was lazy and being a soft pussy since! kawhi rightfully lose trust!

I can respect that you think differently but dont give any argument or answer any argument

[lefty]

:lmao :lmao : lmao

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[DarkGinobili]

:lol

[Dverde]

Kawhi literally took his ball and went home. Ran to his uncle Dennis. I was holding out hope that it’s poor communication, but I no longer believe this guy at all.

[DarkGinobili]

It's just time to move on.Get what you can.

[BillMc]

Was this team not in the conference finals last time Leonard was healthy? Did they not win 60 games? Leonard got hurt and they lost the series. This year he sat out and they still made the playoffs. Give me facts as to why they are not committed to winning? The record says they are. The results says they are.

+1

[gospursgojas]

Was this team not in the conference finals last time Leonard was healthy? Did they not win 60 games? Leonard got hurt and they lost the series. This year he sat out and they still made the playoffs. Give me facts as to why they are not committed to winning? The record says they are. The results says they are.

:th.

But sadly to Kawhi fanboys if Spurs aren’t trying to build a super team they aren’t about winning.

[Marcus Bryant]

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[JuneJive]

You're asking why Kawhi isn't addressing the media? Kawhi Leonard?


he has no reason to.

doesn't help him from a business perspective.

He must know how the real world works. Jesus. Couldn't he look at this whole situation from an outside perspective and figure out that by saying something he could at least put an end to some speculations.
Yes, he's kept silent for most, if not all of his career, but this isn't some small rumor that doesn't need addressing.

Make it clear, for fucks sake. I ain't buying the whole introvert thing.

[baseline bum]

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I just don't see the point of doing any of these trades. It would be like trading David Robinson for Walter Berry and Vinny Del Negro.

[John B]

+1
true but Spurs don’t really chase big name FA’s i.e. CP3, Kyrie and wants to save using D-league players, Eurostash, etc. I get it. It’s the best management in a small market and they’re in the playoffs 21 straight. But sometimes it’s frustrating knowing that we could’ve done more. Spurs pretty much wasted Drobs chances. The best talent was Rodman and we traded him away. Schintzius? 50 yrs old Wilkins. Maybe loosen the purse a little I guess because soon FA’s just can’t wait to jump ship on the next opportunity.

[weebo]

Leonard is damaged goods--Spurs know this and so does Leonard.

[Marcus Bryant]

I just don't see the point of doing any of these trades. It would be like trading David Robinson for Walter Berry and Vinny Del Negro.

:tu But supposedly this is the best the Spurs can get. :lol

[Poolboy5623]

:th.

But sadly to Kawhi fanboys if Spurs aren’t trying to build a super team they aren’t about winning.

Building a super team requires being a free agent destination, which SA clearly is not..

[BillMc]

true but Spurs don’t really chase big name FA’s i.e. CP3, Kyrie and wants to save using D-league players, Eurostash, etc. I get it. It’s the best management in a small market and they’re in the playoffs 21 straight. But sometimes it’s frustrating knowing that we could’ve done more. Spurs pretty much wasted Drobs chances. The best talent was Rodman and we traded him away. Schintzius? 50 yrs old Wilkins. Maybe loosen the purse a little I guess because soon FA’s just can’t wait to jump ship on the next opportunity.

LaMarcus has been all-NBA 2 of his 3 years, seems he was a pretty good get. They tried for Durant. They would have tried for CP3 but Houston hoodwinked everyone and got him off the market near instantly. And as you say, chasing FA's is the best way to screw up your salary cap too.

The team is always looking long term. But too many want instant fixes here.

[Marcus Bryant]

Take this dogshit for your best asset because you couldn't possibly get better tomorrow. Yeah, why haven't the Spurs pulled the trigger yet?

And before I forget, LeBron James is a fitting 'superstar' for this era. I eagerly await the next ghostwritten letter explaining why he's bailing on his team.

[Vic Petro]

I just don't see the point of doing any of these trades. It would be like trading David Robinson for Walter Berry and Vinny Del Negro.

I’ve been on your side throughout in terms of not making a bad trade until you have to. But the reality is PATFO are not going to let this drag into the season. The locker room needs to turn the page, the organization needs to turn the page, and fans need to turn the page. They’re not going to allow constant media questions all year “but what about Kawhi?” They’ll play hardball and hold out as long as they can if it means getting the best deal. But they’ll pull the trigger on a deal - whatever it is - before the season starts. They’re not going to February with this bullshit.

[baseline bum]

I’ve been on your side throughout in terms of not making a bad trade until you have to. But the reality is PATFO are not going to let this drag into the season. The locker room needs to turn the page, the organization needs to turn the page, and fans need to turn the page. They’re not going to allow constant media questions all year “but what about Kawhi?” They’ll play hardball and hold out as long as they can if it means getting the best deal. But they’ll pull the trigger on a deal - whatever it is - before the season starts. They’re not going to February with this bullshit.

I still think holding him and not letting him get on the floor is a viable strategy. The Spurs can say they're just trying to get Kawhi healthy and don't want to rush him back to the press. Might as well get into a staring contest with that faggot since there is really nothing to lose. And hope he starts getting on his agent's ass to work a trade to somewhere. Make his agent earn the cut he's taking from the mute pos.

[gambit1990]

Couldn't he look at this whole situation from an outside perspective and figure out that by saying something he could at least put an end to some speculations.
Yes, he's kept silent for most, if not all of his career, but this isn't some small rumor that doesn't need addressing.

Make it clear, for fucks sake. I ain't buying the whole introvert thing.
maybe kawhi has already made it clear to the people who need to know.

kawhi isn't gonna address the media about the situation the same way the spurs won't.

it won't make spurs fans any happier if he comes out and says, "i wanna be with lakers."

[Vic Petro]

I still think holding him and not letting him get on the floor is a viable strategy. The Spurs can say they're just trying to get Kawhi healthy and don't want to rush him back to the press. Might as well get into a staring contest with that faggot since there is really nothing to lose. And hope he starts getting on his agent's ass to work a trade to somewhere. Make his agent earn the cut he's taking from the mute pos.

I hear you and I agree with your strategy. But looking at it practically, this is a proud organization who don’t want this black cloud over the team any longer than it needs to. They’ll say “we’ll take the guys who want to be here” and move on with the best of the shitty deals, which I imagine to them is Phi.

[kobyz]

Was this team not in the conference finals last time Leonard was healthy? Did they not win 60 games? Leonard got hurt and they lost the series. This year he sat out and they still made the playoffs. Give me facts as to why they are not committed to winning? The record says they are. The results says they are.
it was mostley because of Kawhi, but he come to conclusion that he was mistreat with how Pop and FO handle the team not carring enough of winning, i don't want to get into detail of all their poor functioning, but it was very bad front office wise and also coaching wise, since 2014 the team being so underachiever with so miss oportonities to win more, i'm feeling kawhi cause he gave his all!

[BD24]

it was mostley because of Kawhi, but he come to conclusion that he was mistreat with how Pop and FO handle the team not carring enough of winning, i don't want to get into detail of all their poor functioning, but it was very bad front office wise and also coaching wise, since 2014 the team being so underachiever with so miss oportonities to win more, i'm feeling kawhi cause he gave his all!
When did this emo faggot start posting agian :lol

[NASpurs]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23954414/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-meet-person-opening-hours-free-agency

Sources: LeBron James has no plans to meet in person with Cavaliers when free agency opens

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maybe kawhi has already made it clear to the people who need to know.

kawhi isn't gonna address the media about the situation the same way the spurs won't.

it won't make spurs fans any happier if he comes out and says, "i wanna be with lakers."

Then explain his sister running his official fan page pimping how much he loves it here

[BatManu20]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23954414/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-meet-person-opening-hours-free-agency

Sources: LeBron James has no plans to meet in person with Cavaliers when free agency opens


He gone. Not that we didn’t know this already.

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg9PRLGXkAElM1E.jpg

[picnroll]

Wouldn’t be surprised if Leonard’s group isn’t sending signals to all teams other than the Lakers that if they trade for him he’ll sit out the year. Fuck him let him rot on the bench or sue him for breech of contract.

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23954414/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-meet-person-opening-hours-free-agency

Sources: LeBron James has no plans to meet in person with Cavaliers when free agency opens
Why would he, even if he's staying? It's not like there's anything he doesn't already know about the Cavs. The shit that passes for news now is really something.

[CGD]

Remind me again how much Kawhi would lose if he signs as free agent next summer versus being traded now. He can get a 4 year deal in both scenarios, but the raises are less without Bird Rights, correct?

So that amount on top of a 5 year deal (possible super max). That’s a lot of cash. Dude must really be pissed.

[daslicer]

Remind me again how much Kawhi would lose if he signs as free agent next summer versus being traded now. He can get a 4 year deal in both scenarios, but the raises are less without Bird Rights, correct?

So that amount on top of a 5 year deal (possible super max). That’s a lot of cash. Uncle must really be pissed.

FIFY

[TekXX]

Remind me again how much Kawhi would lose if he signs as free agent next summer versus being traded now. He can get a 4 year deal in both scenarios, but the raises are less without Bird Rights, correct?

So that amount on top of a 5 year deal (possible super max). That’s a lot of cash. Dude must really be pissed.

Someones told him he can make that all up and more with a shoe deal if he goes to LA

[daslicer]

I hear you and I agree with your strategy. But looking at it practically, this is a proud organization who don’t want this black cloud over the team any longer than it needs to. They’ll say “we’ll take the guys who want to be here” and move on with the best of the shitty deals, which I imagine to them is Phi.

Kawhi has already destroyed the reputation of the Spurs. He's dragged the Spurs to the bottom of the pit. The Spurs can't get any lower than where they are now. I'm all for keeping Kawhi for next season and waiting until the trade deadline to get better offers or even having him play a full year if the Spurs can't get a good deal. Spurs can't sink any lower reputation wise then where they are at but they have great opportunity to destroy Kawhi's reputation and bring him down to their level. Which is what I'm aiming for. Most shit is going to come out on this scam artist as time goes on.

[jjktkk]

it was mostley because of Kawhi, but he come to conclusion that he was mistreat with how Pop and FO handle the team not carring enough of winning, i don't want to get into detail of all their poor functioning, but it was very bad front office wise and also coaching wise, since 2014 the team being so underachiever with so miss oportonities to win more, i'm feeling kawhi cause he gave his all!

Not caring enough about winning? Did you even watch the Spurs this past season? I thought this past season was one of Pop's better coaching performances in quite some time. I don't know where you get this crazy idea he doesn't care about winning from.

[BSfromTX]

Someones told him he can make that all up and more with a shoe deal if he goes to LA

Doubt that. He might can get better endorsements, but not enough to make up the difference IMO

[BatManu20]

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[TekXX]

Doubt that. He might can get better endorsements, but not enough to make up the difference IMO

I agree that It won't make up the difference but no doubt his camp is expecting better endorsements to soften the blow by going to LA.

[kobyz]

Not caring enough about winning? Did you even watch the Spurs this past season? I thought this past season was one of Pop's better coaching performances in quite some time. I don't know where you get this crazy idea he doesn't care about winning from.

I'm talking before last season...

[SAntonio!]

I think SA/LA/PHX are hammering out a three team trade as we speak. Just spit balling here but it’ll probably look something like this (below). PHX is in need of a point guard & supposedly wanted Ball going into the ‘17 draft. LA will likely have to send a pick with Ball to the Suns as tax for their desperation. I know this looks pretty lopsided on paper but you have to remember that LA is basically trading us for Kawhi & Lebron. LA acquiring Kawhi is the only chance they have to land Lebron so we can basically name our price. Problem is, LA knows they don’t have enough assets to bring us to the table so that’s why this’ll more than likely be a three way trade. I think PATFO would be wise to request future future picks. The #29 pick in the draft is just not very valuable. Come 2022 lebron will be 37 & might not even be in LA anymore so those future future 1st rounders could end up lookin like the future picks the C’s got from the Nets. I really think LA will pay whatever it takes to get kawhi. I would literally rape the hell outta them if I was PATFO. If only the lakers would’ve taken Jayson Tatum over Ball though! Why?!?! Or Jaylen Brown over Ingram! If the lakers would’ve just drafted better of late we could have pulled off something really special.

LA gets Kawhi + Danny Green

Spurs get Josh Jackson + Ingram + Kouzma + Hart + LA’s 2022 first rounder + LA’s 2023 first rounder

Suns get Lonzo Ball + LA’s 2019 second rounder

[CP48107]

I think SA/LA/PHX are hammering out a three team trade as we speak. Just spit balling here but it’ll probably look something like this (below). PHX is in need of a point guard & supposedly wanted Ball going into the ‘17 draft. LA will likely have to send a pick with Ball to the Suns as tax for their desperation. I know this looks pretty lopsided on paper but you have to remember that LA is basically trading us for Kawhi & Lebron. LA acquiring Kawhi is the only chance they have to land Lebron so we can basically name our price. Problem is, LA knows they don’t have enough assets to bring us to the table so that’s why this’ll more than likely be a three way trade. I think PATFO would be wise to request future future picks. The #29 pick in the draft is just not very valuable. Come 2022 lebron will be 37 & might not even be in LA anymore so those future future 1st rounders could end up lookin like the future picks the C’s got from the Nets. I really think LA will pay whatever it takes to get kawhi. I would literally rape the hell outta them if I was PATFO. If only the lakers would’ve taken Jayson Tatum over Ball though! Why?!?! Or Jaylen Brown over Ingram! If the lakers would’ve just drafted better of late we could have pulled off something really special.

LA gets Kawhi + Danny Green

Spurs get Josh Jackson + Ingram + Kouzma + Hart + LA’s 2022 first rounder + LA’s 2023 first rounder

Suns get Lonzo Ball + LA’s 2019 second rounder

As much as this sounds like a great idea, I doubt the Lakers will give up this much.

[Dex]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg9PRLGXkAElM1E.jpg

:lol Dick was an absolute disappointment with the Spurs, but...he always seemed like a good guy. His podcast was hilarious, and I'm glad he got a chance to ring in Cleveland.

Also, thanks for missing those two free throws for Golden State in 2012!

[gambit1990]

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if you're getting a paywall like me you can read it by opening the link in a private window.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I'm hearing rumblings that LeBron has touched ground in LA.
Also in the rumor mill is that Chris Paul is unhappy in hou. Would love to play with his best friend in LA

[ECOV]

I'm hearing rumblings that LeBron has touched ground in LA.
Also in the rumor mill is that Chris Paul is unhappy in hou. Would love to play with his best friend in LA

Any sauces

[Spurs9]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg9eKQYXcAEsCJ9.jpg

[Dex]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg9eKQYXcAEsCJ9.jpg

Goddamn, dude packs more stuff than my wife. Is he visiting or is he already moving there?

[gambit1990]

Also in the rumor mill is that Chris Paul is unhappy in hou. Would love to play with his best friend in LA
brought it up before, houston should trade harden for lebron.

cp3 + lebron would sick. would be a coup for the lakers. cbs sports say it's rumored it's a lock that he remains with the rockets.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Any sauces
https://twitter.com/harmer805/status/1013131473212207104?s=19

[Floyd Pacquiao]

brought it up before, houston should trade harden for lebron.

cp3 + lebron would sick. would be a coup for the lakers. cbs sports say it's pretty much a lock that he remains with the rockets.

Yeah. But LeBron hates the city of Houston iirc. He'd never go there.

[gambit1990]

Yeah. But LeBron hates the city of Houston iirc. He'd never go there.
yeah, i remember reading that :lol

[Budkin]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23954414/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-meet-person-opening-hours-free-agency

Sources: LeBron James has no plans to meet in person with Cavaliers when free agency opens

Anyone know if he even has a meeting planned with Pop? Even if it's just a courtesy?

[SpursWoman]

Goddamn, dude packs more stuff than my wife. Is he visiting or is he already moving there?


:lol

[TekXX]

Is Lebron+PG+Chris Paul enough to beat Golden State, i say no.

[szkorhetz]

Goddamn, dude packs more stuff than my wife. Is he visiting or is he already moving there?
Fuck this man. I still don't get, why he wants to play in Kobe's area, in Kobe's shadow. It's such a bitch move, the Miami era seems like a good choice...

[SAntonio!]

As much as this sounds like a great idea, I doubt the Lakers will give up this much.

So you think LA says no to this deal?

Ball + Ingram + Kouzma + Hart + two future 1st rounders

-for-

Kawhi + Lebron + Danny Green


Remember that Lebron & Danny are really close going back to their time in Cleveland. Add that to the fact that Lebron likes to bring in “his” guys & I could see him wanting Danny on his team.

[dbestpro]

Leonard is damaged goods--Spurs know this and so does Leonard.

Not just physically, but his brand too. I guess they could try to sell his shoe to people who are trying to cheat social security.

[CP48107]

So you think LA says no to this deal?

Ball + Ingram + Kouzma + Hart + two future 1st rounders

-for-

Kawhi + Lebron + Danny Green


Remember that Lebron & Danny are really close going back to their time in Cleveland. Add that to the fact that Lebron likes to bring in “his” guys & I could see him wanting Danny on his team.

It's a great trade for the Spurs, but I can't see them trading away 3 starters, 1 reserve, and two future 1st picks. But if it happens, then more power to the PATFO.

[BatManu20]

So you think LA says no to this deal?

Ball + Ingram + Kouzma + Hart + two future 1st rounders

-for-

Kawhi + Lebron + Danny Green


Remember that Lebron & Danny are really close going back to their time in Cleveland. Add that to the fact that Lebron likes to bring in “his” guys & I could see him wanting Danny on his team.

LA says no to that.

[Dex]

Fuck this man. I still don't get, why he wants to play in Kobe's area, in Kobe's shadow. It's such a bitch move, the Miami era seems like a good choice...

Kobe's era is over, just like Magic's and Kareem's and West's. Lakers fans will jump on the nuts of the next big star and never look back.

Lebron would instantly become the most loved guy in LA as soon as he put on a Lakers jersey.

[Spurs9]

I could see them including Green or Patty in a deal to LA.

[gambit1990]

Fuck this man. I still don't get, why he wants to play in Kobe's area, in Kobe's shadow.
lebron has eclipsed kobe and will eclipse him in la too.

[BatManu20]

Come back Timmy :cry


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[CP48107]

Is Lebron+PG+Chris Paul enough to beat Golden State, i say no.

Probably not. Assuming Lebron, CP3, & PG offset Durant, Curry, & Clay, the Lakers still needs to deal with Draymond, Iguodala, & Livingston, & Steve Kerr. The three superstars in Lakers uniform will cost them around 100 millions in salary, which leaves very little for the rest of the team.

[CP48107]

Come back Timmy :cry


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A true Spurs Legend.

[SAntonio!]

I could see them including Green or Patty in a deal to LA.

I think green will be the sweetener in a deal with LA. Danny would be an important rotation piece on a team that will lack quality depth. Plus Lebron is a big fan of Greens.

[Dex]

Come back Timmy :cry


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Thought it was gonna be a Tragic Brohnson sighting, but Timmy finished up with that patented old man layup.

Man, I fucking miss that guy.

[BatManu20]

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[TekXX]

Come back Timmy :cry


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He's looking pretty good out there, maybe a step slow, but bring his ass back if he's up for it.

[picnroll]

They’d have a good shot right up to wher CP3 sat out the playoffs with an injury. (A real one not like Leonard’s.)

[Mugen]

Why the fuck would the spurs throw in Danny? Regardless of what you think of his play, his contract is pretty valuable.

If Pop and RC can't even offload Pau onto the Lakers, they should both retire on the spot.

[Dex]

Why the fuck would the spurs throw in Danny? Regardless of what you think of his play, his contract is pretty valuable.

If Pop and RC can't even offload Pau onto the Lakers, they should both retire on the spot.

Not sure about that...let's not act like Spurs have all the leverage here. Kawhi is coming off a missed year, and pretty much determined he will only re-sign with an L.A. team.

I'd love for the Spurs to unload Pau or, preferably, Mills...but if the Lakers are smart enough not to call that bluff, I can't say I would blame them.

Danny is off the table though imo. Reasonable contract for a reasonable player...Spurs should only include him if it makes the money work.

[mo7888]

So you think LA says no to this deal?

Ball + Ingram + Kouzma + Hart + two future 1st rounders

-for-

Kawhi + Lebron + Danny Green


Remember that Lebron & Danny are really close going back to their time in Cleveland. Add that to the fact that Lebron likes to bring in “his” guys & I could see him wanting Danny on his team.

LA would definitely do that.

[r0drig0lac]

Is Lebron+PG+Chris Paul enough to beat Golden State, i say no.

yep

[Mugen]

Not sure about that...let's not act like Spurs have all the leverage here. Kawhi is coming off a missed year, and pretty much determined he will only re-sign with an L.A. team.

I'd love for the Spurs to unload Pau or, preferably, Mills...but if the Lakers are smart enough not to call that bluff, I can't say I would blame them.

Danny is off the table though imo. Reasonable contract for a reasonable player...Spurs should only include him if it makes the money work.

Spurs are already gonna get fucked in a deal, that's what happens when you are trading away a top 5 player.

Trash like Brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma and some late first rounders is a terrible fucking deal. I'd rather take whatever garbage offers team will propose for a 1yr rental because it won't be much worse than the Lakers trash.

Spurs are going to get fucked regardless and if they end up playing cucks to Magic and RC, throwing in a valuable contract like Danny's would be adding insult and stupidity to injury.

[BatManu20]

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[cd98]

He's looking pretty good out there, maybe a step slow, but bring his ass back if he's up for it.

He's looking great against those 6th graders. Totally dominating.

[offset formation]

Doubt that. He might can get better endorsements, but not enough to make up the difference IMO

Not. Even. Close.

Maybe he can recoup $25M. Maybe.

[Dverde]

Kawhi a disappointment! Let’s push this 300 pages before he gets traded.

[Ron Swanson]

He's looking great against those 6th graders. Totally dominating.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7t8xwpW8gJQ/hqdefault.jpg

[spurs10]

Still hoping Pop and R.C. will just entertain whatever offers are made and if they don't work make Kawhi prove his worth on the floor. If he sits, his career will be over.

[offset formation]

As much as this sounds like a great idea, I doubt the Lakers will give up this much.

Why would Phoenix do that?

[BatManu20]

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[Dex]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7t8xwpW8gJQ/hqdefault.jpg

:lmao

[BatManu20]

Lakers making room.


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[Leetonidas]

It'll be interesting to see LeBron on the Lakers. I always figured he would play in NY or LA at some point

[MoSpur02]

Hope CP3 goes to L.A. That guarantees he'll get injured right around the playoffs and cause them to be eliminated

[BatManu20]

@ericsports
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LeBron James is signing with the Los Angeles Lakers. Done deal.

[NASpurs]

Lakers making room.


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Don't know shit about him but

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[BatManu20]

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[Spurs9]

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Lonzo Ball trade incoming?