View Full Version : Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs
Yep. DeRozan ain't KL, but he's far better than anything LA was offering.
Ingram MIGHT turn into DeRozan one day. But probably won’t.
Though he is a lot cheaper ... for now
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07-18-2018, 08:59 AM
Sucks no OG, but still happy this is over. Kawhi was a douche and the Spurs needed to move him. Yeah Green is gone, which is a huge bummer, but it points to signs that maybe the Spurs are going to give a good amount of minutes to guys like White and Walker.
Props for calling this Mo.
Spurs da champs
07-18-2018, 08:59 AM
Raps know Kawhi is leaving and wouldn’t give OG or Siakam
This makes chosing Bertans over KA look bad tbh.
picnroll
07-18-2018, 09:02 AM
Lose/lose for everyone.
Spurs get worse. Reputation harmed.
Kawhi loses a lot of money. Reputation trashed. Now playing in a place he never wanted to be.
How the hell is Spurs reputation harmed? Because the didn’t trade the Lakers for Dung. Pretty sure all the other agents in the league think the Kawhitter group are ass wipes.
YGWHI
07-18-2018, 09:12 AM
Lose/losefor everyone.
Spurs get worse. Reputation harmed.
Kawhi loses a lot of money. Reputation trashed. Now playingin a place he never wanted to be.
Agreed. But narratives can change so fast this next season.
Doesn't matter if we like DeMar's game or his contract, he's a guard who can put +20 ppg, a player the team needed last season desperately...The Spurs will be better than #7 this next season with DeRozan, way better than LBJ's team, and winning in the West help to fix everything.
IF Kawhi's camp realizes he can be the "new King of East"this next season, IF his camp lets him to play for Raptors for a year, he'll make ASG this season again, some ALL NBA team again...He can restore his imageand reputation in just a few months.
Philly or Toronto were the best for him to revive his career.
In Philly, he would have to share the spotlight with Simms and Embiid, in Toronto he'll the man and will have everything to work his way back into thegame
ducks
07-18-2018, 09:17 AM
Kawhi won this team a ring.
The disresecpt spursfan showing him based on a story by micheal wright who sounded like he was telling a normal bar story.
Wow. Just wow.
https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/scust.pnggo to raptors form
Spurs9
07-18-2018, 09:17 AM
Watching Chris Carter on his show this am was pretty funny. He got called by Kawhis camp during the show and they were reading the trade, apparently they didn't get notified. He said he has a conference call with them after the show.
ducks
07-18-2018, 09:18 AM
Watching Chris Carter on his show this am was pretty funny. He got called by Kawhis camp during the show and they were reading the trade, apparently they didn't get notified. He said he has a conference call with them after the show.
Lol
YGWHI
07-18-2018, 09:21 AM
How the hell is Spurs reputation harmed? Because the didn’t trade the Lakers for Dena. Pretty sure all the other agents in the league think the Kawhitter group are ass wipes.
I wouldn't say Spurs' rep is harmed but before this Kawhi's issue they were Gods for most people, now they look a bit more humans...This offseason, the Spurs are one more of those team in the league that couldn't keep their franchise player.
BSfromTX
07-18-2018, 09:21 AM
We need a SF in the worst way now.. right? We don't have a true SF
YGWHI
07-18-2018, 09:24 AM
We need a SF in the worst way now.. right? We don't have a true SF
I guess Rudy Gay is a true SF
spursistan
07-18-2018, 09:24 AM
At the end of the day will he be anymore then a footnote from our 5th championship?
Yeah, I don't think he has much of a legacy as "the guy" in San Antonio..
szkorhetz
07-18-2018, 09:25 AM
I guess Rudy Gay is a true SF
So is DD. there is no such difference in SG or SF position anymore in today's NBA, much less in the Spurs system.
Spurs da champs
07-18-2018, 09:25 AM
Ah yes. Kyle Anderson. The player who has the worst agility in the NBA for a player at his position and size.
The player who is scared to shoot and literally got destroyed by Golden State. Yes, we should've taken him over a player who has the potential to turn into a 4 that can run off screens for shots and move without the ball.
Who do the Spurs have to guard the likes of KD & Bron now? Wing defeners are also needed to beat GS.
kjhip1
07-18-2018, 09:26 AM
I’m glad Spurs FO stuck to it and didn’t cave to Kawhi trade demand to go to LA. After all the drama kawhi and his team caused, they deserve everything that comes back to them.
BSfromTX
07-18-2018, 09:26 AM
We need a SF in the worst way now.. right? We don't have a true SF
spursistan
07-18-2018, 09:29 AM
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:lmao..Yep, that what you get for being a grade 1 snake..
ducks
07-18-2018, 09:29 AM
Watching Chris Carter on his show this am was pretty funny. He got called by Kawhis camp during the show and they were reading the trade, apparently they didn't get notified. He said he has a conference call with them after the show.
Lol
marinoman
07-18-2018, 09:32 AM
No og, no getting rid of pau or pattys contract. Meh
baseline bum
07-18-2018, 09:32 AM
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:lmao..Yep, that what you get for being a grade 1 snake..
Leonard can always retire if he doesn't want to go.
picnroll
07-18-2018, 09:33 AM
I wouldn't say Spurs' rep is harmed but before this Kawhi's issue they were Gods for most people, now they look a bit more humans...This offseason, the Spurs are one more of those team in the league that couldn't keep their franchise player.
They look like they bent over backward to try to please a completely unprofessional group of assholes. In all likelihood even enhanced the respect they have as an organization around the league. You really think other front offices and agents don’t know and understand all the bullshit kawhitter and his group and Magic and were pulling and what the real story was? You are one dumb fuck then.
bdictjames
07-18-2018, 09:35 AM
Only took 600 pages :lol
marinoman
07-18-2018, 09:36 AM
1019500916880240640:lmao..Yep, that what you get for being a grade 1 snake..
Ellsworth
07-18-2018, 09:38 AM
Lake fans trying to ridicule us for not trading with them are fucking hilarious.
Truly a sad day all around... KL should have been man enough to run his own life & career, instead he let that uncle D!ck be the captain.
Guess it's time to move on for everyone :depressed
As for them lalafans, KL knew where he wanted to go to & that's exactly where the SPuRS sent him to... CA :rollin
That's probably so he can showcase his trademark "The CLaW" by putting on that RaPToR jersey :claw:wow:downspin:
sasaint
07-18-2018, 09:39 AM
They look like they bent over backward to try to please a completely unprofessional group of assholes. In all likelihood even enhanced the respect they have as an organization around the league. You really think other front offices and agents don’t know and understand all the bullshit kawhitter and his group and Magic and were pulling and what the real story was? You are one dumb fuck then.
Moreover, I will be interested to see how Mr. Endorsement fares on a team in a city with a media that will probably not coddle him like the Spurs, San Antonio and our media has for his entire career.
picnroll
07-18-2018, 09:41 AM
Good. The asshole is Toronto’s problem now.
marinoman
07-18-2018, 09:42 AM
So what’s the spurs starting lineup for game 1 of the season
sasaint
07-18-2018, 09:43 AM
Could it have been Toronto's plan to flip him to a "desired" destination all along?
ernest787
07-18-2018, 09:43 AM
guessing
Murray
Derozen
Gay
Bertans
Aldridge
r0drig0lac
07-18-2018, 09:43 AM
I believe Blossom will really get a place on the team now.
8FOR!3
07-18-2018, 09:45 AM
When will we know that he passes his physical? :wow
FireMicoHalili
07-18-2018, 09:46 AM
Guess Gay, Bertans, and Beli/smaller guards will be playing the three. Pöltl solves the lack of a bench big so there’s that. The Spurs lost two great defenders and I’m not sure how they can account for that. Probably explains the interest in David Nwaba. The Spurs still have the BAE if I’m not mistaken.
Dverde
07-18-2018, 09:47 AM
guessing
Murray
Derozen
Gay
Bertans
Aldridge
LMA/Poetl and Bertrans/Gasol seem to fit better. Who knows with the Spurs. Poetl could be garbage and unplayable.
marinoman
07-18-2018, 09:47 AM
Hope raptors don’t end up trading kawitter to the lakers
Ice009
07-18-2018, 09:48 AM
Man, I wanted OG more than DeRozen. I don't give a shit about DeRozen. What a fucking terrible, terrible trade. Fucking horrible. Should have just kept him the whole season and forced him to either play or sit out then leave as a free agent.
spursistan
07-18-2018, 09:48 AM
Leonard can always retire if he doesn't want to go.
Calling it: this dude's career will crash and burn form here. I honestly don't believe he has the mental fortitude to cope with what's coming next to him .
Hopefully budding stars in the league learn from his sorry saga..
marinoman
07-18-2018, 09:51 AM
No one thinks itll be Murray, white, derozan in today’s nba
Chillen
07-18-2018, 10:00 AM
Hope raptors don’t end up trading kawitter to the lakers
Not impossible especially if Kawhi's camp gives Toronto sh*t. Toronto could probably get Ingram and Kuzma for him because Magic knows this is where Kawhi wants to be.
So people saying Toronto lost in the deal no they didn't. Kawhi would still have trade value.
Raptors are in East, and a smart GM (hint Cavs) never trades with rivals and Spurs/Lakers have had battles in the past.
ducks
07-18-2018, 10:01 AM
13 allstars for east 2017(melo played due to injury)
8 left on same team
spursistan
07-18-2018, 10:04 AM
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Spurminator
07-18-2018, 10:04 AM
I appreciate his pre-2018 contributions to the San Antonio Spurs and I hope that motherfucker shatters both knees in Toronto.
Leonard can always retire if he doesn't want to go.
What are his options re foul play for the physical?
Holden_Caulfield
07-18-2018, 10:06 AM
Does manu come back? I hope he retires because this team won't probably make the playoffs
spursistan
07-18-2018, 10:06 AM
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It might come down to these measures with this disgrace..
kobyz
07-18-2018, 10:06 AM
now we have to do also the Kemba Walker trade if we want to stay relevant, Kemba and Bismack for Gasol, Mills and Murray! do it Mitch!!
MoSpur02
07-18-2018, 10:07 AM
Props for calling this Mo.
:bobo
SpursDynasty85
07-18-2018, 10:07 AM
more accurately:
Murray/White
Mills/Belinelli/Forbes
Derozan/Gay/Ginobili
LMA/Bertans/Cunningham
Poetl/Gasol
Going to fully embrace Derozan! His ability to get to the foul line and create double teams will be key.
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Maybe Pop just wants him as far away from Team USA as possible . . .
marinoman
07-18-2018, 10:15 AM
Please let’s not be done this offseason with trades, please trade pau and/or patty
Spurminator
07-18-2018, 10:17 AM
In a just world, he would be Kaepernicked from the NBA.
marinoman
07-18-2018, 10:18 AM
more accurately:
Murray/White
Mills/Belinelli/Forbes
Derozan/Gay/Ginobili
LMA/Bertans/Cunningham
Poetl/Gasol
Going to fully embrace Derozan! His ability to get to the foul line and create double teams will be key.
I don’t see 2 bigs starting in today’s nba, better chance a 3 guard starting lineup
8FOR!3
07-18-2018, 10:19 AM
In a just world, he would be Kaepernicked from the NBA.
Once he's not very good anymore he will be. Just like if Kaepernick was any good he'd still be playing.
Big Empty
07-18-2018, 10:20 AM
So Jabari is noone imporant anymore either huh lol
daslicer
07-18-2018, 10:36 AM
So Jabari is noone imporant anymore either huh lol
I'm surprised he's not going to join Kawhi in Toronto.
Spurminator
07-18-2018, 10:39 AM
Once he's not very good anymore he will be. Just like if Kaepernick was any good he'd still be playing.
This was an important clarification for you to make, your opinion is appreciated.
marinoman
07-18-2018, 10:39 AM
Close this thread
Done deal!
#Wojreceipt
so what did douchebag cris carter have to say about his guarantee that leonard wasn't going to toronto? i guess no one called him.
Joseph Kony
07-18-2018, 10:41 AM
lol cant wait to see Carter throwing a fit on TV :lol
RD2191
07-18-2018, 10:42 AM
lol cant wait to see Carter throwing a fit on TV :lol
He's probably contemplating suicide tbh
FireMicoHalili
07-18-2018, 10:42 AM
Uncle Dennis :lol Cris Carter :lol Jabari Young :lol Salty Laker fans who kept force-feeding Kuzma and Summer League MVP Josh Hart :lol
baseline bum
07-18-2018, 10:42 AM
lol cant wait to see Carter throwing a fit on TV :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9GwJIpwknA
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It might come down to these measures with this disgrace..
and if it stretched out to 30 days missed with no validated reason, leonard forgoes his FA status for the upcoming year.
picnroll
07-18-2018, 10:43 AM
God I hope Kawhitter isn’t selected for Team USA. Please Pop, if he shows up cut the cancer first.
SpursforSix
07-18-2018, 10:44 AM
That was my immediate reaction. Dissapointing package= undersized tool
that was the joke. Usually, the line is something like, "bend over, I'll fucking show you 12" or "bend over, I'll fucking show you a hot take"
I thought the self deprecating angle was funny.
I didn't need the implication explained to me by whoever that was.
Mugen
07-18-2018, 10:45 AM
:lmao faggot ass Cris Carter having a conference call with Kawhi's group after the segment.....
Fuck you you bible thumping piece of shit, get fucked
SpursDynasty85
07-18-2018, 10:46 AM
I don’t see 2 bigs starting in today’s nba, better chance a 3 guard starting lineup
Yea. even more accurately a finishing line up of:
Murray
Mills
Derozan
Gay
Aldridge
but Spurs started Aldridge and Gasol for a few minutes always. Poetle fits even better than Gasol so I imagine Spurs will go that route but it seems Bertans needs playing time so it might push Gay into the starting line up. Not sure if Gay is up to banging with the bigger boys either just like Aldridge. They might hedge again like last year but push comes to shove Aldridge and Gay should be our front court to finish important games.
YGWHI
07-18-2018, 10:46 AM
They look like they bent over backward to try to please a completely unprofessional group of assholes. In all likelihood even enhanced the respect they have as an organization around the league. You really think other front offices and agents don’t know and understand all the bullshit kawhitter and his group and Magic and were pulling and what the real story was? You are one dumb fuck then.
I'm just saying that losing a franchise player never is great sign.
Also, do you think that Kawhi's group are the only one toxic fams group in the league doing this? In NBA history, many teams had to handle this issue.
There are plenty of teams willing to deal with these guys, Philly/LAL/even Boston made offers knowing if the Spurs agree, they should get Kawhi and his guys too. The only thing that prevents those teams from giving to the Spurs all we wanted, was Kawhi's contract- 1 year rental-, not his group.
now we have to do also the Kemba Walker trade if we want to stay relevant, Kemba and Bismack for Gasol, Mills and Murray! do it Mitch!!
:tu
This would be a fantastic twist.
FireMicoHalili
07-18-2018, 10:49 AM
Quite disappointed the Spurs didn’t get Anunoby because there’s a gaping hole at small forward. Not losing sight however of the fact the Spurs managed to get an All-Star for someone who barely played and has tendinopathy. IMO the way the Spurs played and managed minutes made Leonard a great fit here since he can rest his quad but a degenerative injury seems like a deal-breaker for most teams. Though there’s a bit of schadenfreude the Lakers didn’t get him they also somehow won by not getting him. Leonard is going to take summers off constantly rehabbing that quad and may not even be able to play at a high level constantly, unless of course he too was faking the degenerative nature of the injury.
DeRozan’s depression will be an issue but he didn’t miss any games over it and was durable for the most part last year. I’m a bit excited he gets a coach like Pop and it’s intriguing to see what Pop wants to do with him. We’re all hoping for the beautiful game but we all know it’s going to be deliciously awful iso ball.
mo7888
07-18-2018, 10:55 AM
Does anyone know what our cap situation looks like next summer now?
TimDunkem
07-18-2018, 10:55 AM
Don't see how DD's depression is relevant. At least the man still shows up to work and plays hard unlike some mute cornrowed autists that have a Norman Bates-like relationship with their uncle.
BillMc
07-18-2018, 10:57 AM
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:lol
Trainwreck2100
07-18-2018, 11:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9GwJIpwknA
talks about how kyle lowry is under contract so he has to show up, 2 minutes later "who knows if kawhi is going to even show up"
chunticakes
07-18-2018, 11:03 AM
that was the joke. Usually, the line is something like, "bend over, I'll fucking show you 12" or "bend over, I'll fucking show you a hot take"
I thought the self deprecating angle was funny.
I didn't need the implication explained to me by whoever that was.
I see 12 pumps is still fresh in your mind.
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 11:03 AM
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DPG21920
07-18-2018, 11:03 AM
Don’t love the Deal but I understand it. Hoping Pau and Mills move.
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 11:05 AM
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Mugen
07-18-2018, 11:06 AM
Don’t love the Deal but I understand it. Hoping Pau and Mills move.
They're gonna keep Patty tbh. Pau has to absolutely be moved but it'll take Murray or White to do it unfortunately. If you get a guy back like Kemba then you should absolutely move Murray.
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 11:07 AM
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Keepin' it real
07-18-2018, 11:10 AM
Derozan career stats:
19.7 points, 4.1 rebounds, 3.1 assists
Leanord career stats:
16.3 points, 6.2 rebounds, 2.3 assists
Leanord better defender (duh), but worse leader and bad teammate.
About an even trade.
monkeypunk
07-18-2018, 11:10 AM
:bobo
Any rumblings on other moves?
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 11:11 AM
:lol @ Kawhi's "Thank You" caption looking more like a footnote compared to Green's
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It's a good thing Kawhi doesn't know how to speak because it stopped him from speaking out against this trade.
dabom
07-18-2018, 11:12 AM
and if it stretched out to 30 days missed with no validated reason, leonard forgoes his FA status for the upcoming year.
"Call him" :lol
DPG21920
07-18-2018, 11:12 AM
They're gonna keep Patty tbh. Pau has to absolutely be moved but it'll take Murray or White to do it unfortunately. If you get a guy back like Kemba then you should absolutely move Murray.
Nah. Moving Pau can be done with the pick from TOR. But if SA is wanting a player no Pick needed. There are players who are good but over paid and teams could want to dump them to save money next year.
But ya. Getting Kemba would be sick.
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 11:13 AM
:lol what a fucking mess of a roster. No way they're done... I hope.
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cool cat
07-18-2018, 11:13 AM
:lol @ Kawhi's "Thank You" caption looking more like a footnote compared to Green's
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Danny getting he jersey retired, not sure about Kawhi.
Mugen
07-18-2018, 11:13 AM
Nah. Moving Pau can be done with the pick from TOR. But if SA is wanting a player no Pick needed. There are players who are good but over paid and teams could want to dump them to save money next year.
But ya. Getting Kemba would be sick.
Kemba and Batum, Deeps. That'd be nice despite Batum's horrible contract tbh.
RD2191
07-18-2018, 11:13 AM
Damn, I gave DG lots of shit but it's sad to see him go.
Holden_Caulfield
07-18-2018, 11:15 AM
All the moves they've made this offseason makes more sense now. Though we still need one big and I doubt this team the playoffs in a stacked west
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 11:15 AM
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marinoman
07-18-2018, 11:16 AM
Don’t get the poeti move, a bad shooting center and their worst young prospect
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 11:16 AM
Damn, I gave DG lots of shit but it's sad to see him go.
The dude was holding summer training camps for kids in the shithole of RGV area as well as El Paso. I feel for the guy.
RD2191
07-18-2018, 11:17 AM
The dude was holding summer training camps for kids in the shithole of RGV area as well as El Paso. I feel for the guy.
Tbh :lmao
Mugen
07-18-2018, 11:17 AM
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Yup, pretty terrible trade all around but nobody was probably offering anything close to what the Raptors offered.
ducks
07-18-2018, 11:18 AM
lol chris says he does not think leonard will not show up to raptors
Spur|n|Austin
07-18-2018, 11:18 AM
Does manu come back? I hope he retires because this team won't probably make the playoffs
You mean the team that made the playoffs last year w/o Kabitch and just added a 23 ppg scorer?
https://media1.tenor.com/images/378a40831d1001c96af434aa24b6dd97/tenor.gif?itemid=5850917
noles1983
07-18-2018, 11:19 AM
lol chris says he does not think leonard will not show up to raptors
double negative my dude, how hard is it to say he thinks leonard will show up?
daslicer
07-18-2018, 11:19 AM
Yup, pretty terrible trade all around but nobody was probably offering anything close to what the Raptors offered.
Yup it was a lose lose in every scenario. Boston was offering crap and the same with the Sixers. I had no desire to see the Spurs create super teams in either Boston,Philadelphia, or LA.
Nathan89
07-18-2018, 11:21 AM
Too bad we couldn't have sent Mills instead of Green. Our 5 man lineups are trash.
Yup, pretty terrible trade all around but nobody was probably offering anything close to what the Raptors offered.
As we've been saying for weeks...the Spurs were bound to lose this trade with the position that Kawhi put them in. There was 0% chance of them getting even value.
It was all about mitigating that loss and I feel like they did a pretty decent job of it.
Too bad we couldn't have sent Mills instead of Green. Our 5 man lineups are trash.
Toronto leaning on a possible rebuild plan if Kawhi bolts after a year....probably the only reason they pulled the trigger on this. No way they were willing to take on Mills three years vs. Danny's one.
SpursforSix
07-18-2018, 11:23 AM
I see 12 pumps is still fresh in your mind.
12 pumps and 12 pubes
Hoops Czar
07-18-2018, 11:23 AM
:lol what a fucking mess of a roster. No way they're done... I hope.
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Yeah, they fucking are.
Aggie Hoopsfan
07-18-2018, 11:24 AM
I don't think we are done with deals. Our roster balance is way off right now. I keep going back to the report that Pop had a plan to get Kawhi more help this summer if he stayed. Expecting another trade coming down the pipe with our wings and I'm guessing Gasol.
Holden_Caulfield
07-18-2018, 11:24 AM
You mean the team that made the playoffs last year w/o Kabitch and just added a 23 ppg scorer?
https://media1.tenor.com/images/378a40831d1001c96af434aa24b6dd97/tenor.gif?itemid=5850917
Lakers got better and Denver should be much improved if Millsap is healthy. 10 good teams for 8 spots. I think we might be the team that gets bumped out
szkorhetz
07-18-2018, 11:24 AM
You mean the team that made the playoffs last year w/o Kabitch and just added a 23 ppg scorer?
https://media1.tenor.com/images/378a40831d1001c96af434aa24b6dd97/tenor.gif?itemid=5850917
This, TBH.
Spurs improved. A lot.
Budkin
07-18-2018, 11:24 AM
lol chris says he does not think leonard will not show up to raptors
I was just thinking this. What happens if he refuses to show up for the physical? The trade is null and void no?
Kori Ellis
07-18-2018, 11:25 AM
Kawhi is our 8-year-old daughter's favorite player. When we broke the trade news, she cried and cried. Then she said, "Can DeRozan play defense?" :lmao
Anyway, the Spurs gave up too much for too little.
Good luck, Danny.
szkorhetz
07-18-2018, 11:25 AM
I was just thinking this. What happens if he refuses to show up for the physical? The trade is null and void no?
Yes, i am afraid he will not show up or bitch about an injury in his physical. Then, I hope Silver will step in.
Mugen
07-18-2018, 11:26 AM
I don't think we are done with deals. Our roster balance is way off right now. I keep going back to the report that Pop had a plan to get Kawhi more help this summer if he stayed. Expecting another trade coming down the pipe with our wings and I'm guessing Gasol.
You mean our guards? We have no wings of value outside Derozan :lol
:lol @ Kawhi's "Thank You" caption looking more like a footnote compared to Green's
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That is truly hilarious . . .
TimDunkem
07-18-2018, 11:26 AM
Lol as if the Spurs care about "roster balance". Poop is going with the all guard lineup this year, people.
will_spurs
07-18-2018, 11:27 AM
The simple truth is that nobody else was offering an All-Star caliber player. The other trades were about stacking prospect and 2nd rate players to somehow make it match.
At least the player we got will report to training camp. Same can't be said of Toronto.
Dverde
07-18-2018, 11:27 AM
Spurs played it safe. Offers could have been pulled with a bad Team USA outing. I never thought we would get OG and DeRozan. He was probably offered in packages with other Raptors like Ibaka and Lowry.
Hoops Czar
07-18-2018, 11:28 AM
RC getting fucking destroyed in this trade tells you all you need to know about his tenure as Spurs GM. Beyond worthless.
RD2191
07-18-2018, 11:29 AM
Lol as if the Spurs care about "roster balance". Poop is going with the all guard lineup this year, people.
:lmao tbh
Spurs da champs
07-18-2018, 11:30 AM
Was this the compelling offer fatass Windhorst was telling us about? :lmao
objective
07-18-2018, 11:31 AM
Crap trade without OG.
They already had gone this far in the nightmare of sitting Kawhi, they should have gone all the way
Just a bad, bad day
Hoops Czar
07-18-2018, 11:33 AM
The simple truth is that nobody else was offering an All-Star caliber player. The other trades were about stacking prospect and 2nd rate players to somehow make it match.
At least the player we got will report to training camp. Same can't be said of Toronto.
He's not an All Star. Only a drunk fool would confuse an all star with a lifetime stat padder. The dude was BENCHED in the clutch vs Cleveland in the postseason. He was basically Kobe East.
acoelho1
07-18-2018, 11:34 AM
I'm just saying that losing a franchise player never is great sign.
Also, do you think that Kawhi's group are the only one toxic fams group in the league doing this? In NBA history, many teams had to handle this issue.
Nobody has had to deal with this type of nonsense and no one had their star player basically quit on the team for an entire year. Do you really think if he played in a bigger market, he wouldn't have been eviscerated by the local media and fans, especially when you have a contending team. The Spurs protected Kawhi as best they could even though they were frustrated by the situation.
Losing a franchise player sucks for sure but based on everything that has happened, Kawhi and his uncle decided prior to this year that they wanted out of SA, period. That is the only narrative that makes sense to this ridiculous story that we as fans had to endure for a year. You can defend them until you are blue in the face but the Spurs have a known track record of taking care of their stars. Even with the unprecedented trade request by LMA, Pop handled it professionally and accommodated his concerns. In Kawhi's case, even with all the personal and team success somehow in his delusional mind the Spurs had done such a wrong that there was no going back. Give me a break.
will_spurs
07-18-2018, 11:35 AM
He was basically Kobe East.
As long as he ends up with as many rings as Kobe I won't be arguing with this comparison.
TimDunkem
07-18-2018, 11:36 AM
Masai Ujiri is a great GM, btw. Essentially cleared capspace for a chance at a chance with a top 3 player. Worst case, he gets that capspace, trades Kawhi for more assets, and still retains all his best prospects. Nice.
spurraider21
07-18-2018, 11:38 AM
:lol what a fucking mess of a roster. No way they're done... I hope.
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that list is retarded
forbes/white are not wings. bertans is a forward.
Nathan89
07-18-2018, 11:39 AM
Was this the compelling offer fatass Windhorst was telling us about? :lmao
Well it worked.
LMA/Poetl and Bertrans/Gasol seem to fit better. Who knows with the Spurs. Poetl could be garbage and unplayable.
You realize Pöltl put up above average stats last year and earned himself 140 playoff minutes. He’s no slouch. In fact, look at how his second season compares with Capela’s:
http://bkref.com/tiny/TXaXk
To me, he’s lower risk than any big the Spurs have brought in in years besides Aldridge.
But what does this say about Nikola? Spurs admitting they screwed up that pick?
Hoops Czar
07-18-2018, 11:40 AM
I knoew RC was going to destroy this franchise someday. I just didn't think it was going to happen so soon after Duncan retired.
kobyz
07-18-2018, 11:40 AM
is this treadmill like move better than taking the chance and keeping kawhi maybe leaving for nothing but hopfully giv in for the money and sign here at the end?
ducks
07-18-2018, 11:40 AM
One player the #Spurs can count on to help DeMar buy into SA is Rudy Gay. The two are extremely close from their time playing together in Toronto. Starting five could include Rudy and DeMar with LaMarcus and Dejounte
dbestpro
07-18-2018, 11:40 AM
So, this means Rudy Gay will start at SF, and IMO will make the return of Manu for one more go. I know there is lots of hate for Poeltl, but Toronto was looking at moving him into the starting center role. He is only 22, and is getting only 3 mil a year. Like many, I sure wish they had gotten OG, but I assume OG is their KL insurance should he walk.
ducks
07-18-2018, 11:42 AM
I knoew RC was going to destroy this franchise someday. I just didn't think it was going to happen so soon after Duncan retired.
leonard attitude and uncle not rc fault
Spurs da champs
07-18-2018, 11:42 AM
Masai Ujiri is a great GM, btw. Essentially cleared capspace for a chance at a chance with a top 3 player. Worst case, he gets that capspace, trades Kawhi for more assets, and still retains all his best prospects. Nice.
That's facts. He's only been handicapped by location & his best players being chokers. Only bad decision was the Brazilian KD draft pick. :lol
MannyIsGod
07-18-2018, 11:44 AM
I appreciate his pre-2018 contributions to the San Antonio Spurs and I hope that motherfucker shatters both knees in Toronto.
I never wanted a player to fail so fucking much until now.
dbreiden83080
07-18-2018, 11:46 AM
Was this the compelling offer fatass Windhorst was telling us about? :lmao
I am convinced that man does nothing but sit in front of his laptop all day, with bags of Burgers.
MannyIsGod
07-18-2018, 11:46 AM
The fact that Kawhi got a thank you at all pisses me off.
I am excited to see what Pop can do with this roster. Maybe they'll surprise us.
iGetbuckets
07-18-2018, 11:46 AM
I can’t believe some of yous are melting down so much:sleep
dbreiden83080
07-18-2018, 11:48 AM
I never wanted a player to fail so fucking much until now.
Nobody expected jack shit from Leonard when he was drafted. You spend the last number of years working your ass to develop him into the franchise guy. Then he goes all full bitch mode on us, and the rest is history..
It Sucks. And the hell with him..
tbdog
07-18-2018, 11:49 AM
Weren't the Celtics offer Smart and first. Clippers were offering Harris and 2 first. We got an elite scorer. I am worried about our D. At least our offense won't suck. Should be a fun Spurs team. Lots of athleticism and should have good shooters out there. Gasol starts again. Unsure if Darozen plays 3 with white or 2 with Gay.
ducks
07-18-2018, 11:49 AM
no team offered a 5 time allstar and a 22 year old lottery pick to spurs after leonard said la only
Budkin
07-18-2018, 11:49 AM
Crap trade without OG.
They already had gone this far in the nightmare of sitting Kawhi, they should have gone all the way
Just a bad, bad day
daslicer
07-18-2018, 11:50 AM
I knoew RC was going to destroy this franchise someday. I just didn't think it was going to happen so soon after Duncan retired.
You are a retarded Cavs fan at heart so it shouldn't bother you.
MannyIsGod
07-18-2018, 11:51 AM
Nobody expected jack shit from Leonard when he was drafted. You spend the last number of years working your ass to develop him into the franchise guy. Then he goes all full bitch mode on us, and the rest is history..
It Sucks. And the hell with him..
I'm not even mad he wanted to leave. I'm mad at how he did it. FTP.
I never wanted a player to fail so fucking much until now.
I hope he fails just enough to give the Raptors the 21st pick in the draft and then blows out his quad in the playoffs
MannyIsGod
07-18-2018, 11:52 AM
I hope he fails just enough to give the Raptors the 21st pick in the draft and then blows out his quad in the playoffs
Fair
I hope he fails just enough to give the Raptors the 21st pick in the draft and then blows out his quad in the playoffs
:lol
MoSpur02
07-18-2018, 11:54 AM
How soon can the Spurs trade DeRozan? Asking for a friend
YGWHI
07-18-2018, 11:54 AM
The fact that Kawhi got a thank you at all pisses me off.
I am excited to see what Pop can do with this roster. Maybe they'll surprise us.
Unless Pop can move this team to the East to make the Finals again, I doubt they surprise us...This team can't beat GSW.
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 11:54 AM
http://www.nba.com/article/2018/07/18/kawhi-leonard-demar-derozan-trade-impact-san-antonio-spurs-toronto-raptors
"Now, DeRozan feels “lied to,” the source said, and, while having no personal grudges with the Spurs, is extremely upset at the deal."
"Leonard also is not happy at going to Toronto, for several reasons, including the higher taxation rate in Canada than in Texas, which has no state income tax. Leonard’s camp had informed the Spurs he didn’t want to go there, but the Spurs made no promises either way. San Antonio had had significant discussions with the Philadelphia 76ers (http://www.nba.com/article/2018/07/17/report-kawhi-leonard-may-consider-participating-team-usa-minicamp) -- a team Leonard would have given a fair shake at convincing him to stay had it been able to make a deal with San Antonio. But the 76ers were unwilling to include guard Markelle Fultz, the former first pick overall in the 2017 Draft (http://www.nba.com/draft/2017), or forward Dario Saric in any package proposals for Leonard."
Hoops Czar
07-18-2018, 11:55 AM
leonard attitude and uncle not rc fault
The Spurs should have been in no rush to make this trade. At the very least, they should come away with an unprotected pick. DeRozen wasn't wanted in Toronto so he was always going to be available. RC just bent over like he usually does and instead of doing a full rebuild around some nice young peices, the Spurs will muddle around the 50 win mark for the next three years with nothing to show for it before they can even think of doing a rebuild. Hopefully by then, they'll be known as the Vegas Spurs.
RD2191
07-18-2018, 11:55 AM
Man, today's NBA players are a bunch of emo faggots. :lol
dbreiden83080
07-18-2018, 11:56 AM
I'm not even mad he wanted to leave. I'm mad at how he did it. FTP.
Weak minded person, allowed himself to be manipulated. Now he can go and freeze his ass off in Toronto. Have fun..
Spurs da champs
07-18-2018, 11:57 AM
Man, today's NBA players are a bunch of emo faggots. :lol
DeRozan's reasons are so much better than Kawhi's. Compton kid actually loved Canada.
dbestpro
07-18-2018, 11:58 AM
Poeltl has shown his potential on more than one occasion this season and there is a slight chance he becomes the Raptors starting center at some stage in the next season or two. He is going to be a big part of their playoff hopes and their future.
Best case scenario a taller, younger, healthier version of Splitter.
Hoops Czar
07-18-2018, 11:58 AM
You are a retarded Cavs fan at heart so it shouldn't bother you.
Have you upgraded your living condition from your parent's tool shed to the attic yet?
The fact that Kawhi got a thank you at all pisses me off.
I am excited to see what Pop can do with this roster. Maybe they'll surprise us.
Same. The Kawhi situation sucked, but glad it's over. The trade isn't the greatest, but considering the leverage the Spurs had, I still think its about the best we could hope for.
At least the regular season will be interesting to see how all of these changes take effect.
Goddamn Warriors are going to win the title again anyways, so we might as well enjoy the ride, right?
bic50
07-18-2018, 12:00 PM
Weak minded person, allowed himself to be manipulated. Now he can go and freeze his ass off in Toronto. Have fun..
Hes not really weak minded. Just doesn't understand business and allowed others who he trusted to do his dealings for him.
spurraider21
07-18-2018, 12:01 PM
http://www.nba.com/article/2018/07/18/kawhi-leonard-demar-derozan-trade-impact-san-antonio-spurs-toronto-raptors
"Now, DeRozan feels “lied to,” the source said, and, while having no personal grudges with the Spurs, is extremely upset at the deal."
"Leonard also is not happy at going to Toronto, for several reasons, including the higher taxation rate in Canada than in Texas, which has no state income tax. Leonard’s camp had informed the Spurs he didn’t want to go there, but the Spurs made no promises either way. San Antonio had had significant discussions with the Philadelphia 76ers (http://www.nba.com/article/2018/07/17/report-kawhi-leonard-may-consider-participating-team-usa-minicamp) -- a team Leonard would have given a fair shake at convincing him to stay had it been able to make a deal with San Antonio. But the 76ers were unwilling to include guard Markelle Fultz, the former first pick overall in the 2017 Draft (http://www.nba.com/draft/2017), or forward Dario Saric in any package proposals for Leonard."
1) i dont blame derozan for being upset. i would be, too. probably will take him time to process what's going on, evaluate everything. but good that he doesn't seem to have any particular dislike of san antonio
2) :lmao kawhi
3) wow... sixers weren't even willing to include saric in any deal? that just tells me they had ZERO trust in kawhi. and honestly can't really blame them
UnWantedTheory
07-18-2018, 12:01 PM
Kemba and Batum, Deeps. That'd be nice despite Batum's horrible contract tbh.
Not sure how good they would be, but that would be a fun lineup.
Kemba
DeRozan
Batum
Gay
Aldridge
MoSpur02
07-18-2018, 12:01 PM
The Spurs made lemonade out of lemons. Kawhi literally screwed the Spurs. Him missing all last season wasn't due to his injury. He was healthy. He sat out and put himself before the entire organization. He demanded to be traded, which is fine, but him saying he only wanted to go to L.A. took any leverage the Spurs may have had away.
The Lakers and Clippers were not going to give up any players that were worth anything. Teams in the East like Boston and Philly weren't willing to give up anything good. So what did you want the Spurs to do?
Keep Kawhi and see how it goes? Nah. He was dividing the locker room. He was a bad teammate. He said things to players that weren't very good. He needed to go. The Spurs best offer was DeMar DeRozan. He's a very good player. Sucks Danny had to go, but the salaries had to match. Sucks the Spurs didn't get any young prospects, but Kawhi is gone and the Spurs got an All Star player in return. The main goal was to move Kawhi and they did that.
Hoops Czar
07-18-2018, 12:01 PM
And if the trade wasn't bad enough, they threw Danny Green in for free. RC is worthless.
daslicer
07-18-2018, 12:01 PM
Have you upgraded your living condition from your parent's tool shed to the attic yet?
:lol Getting salty about the truth. Like I said before you are just a retarded cavs fan that is here to troll who hold's a weird vendetta against the Spur for the '07 sweep of the Cavs.
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 12:01 PM
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Mugen
07-18-2018, 12:03 PM
1) i dont blame derozan for being upset. i would be, too. probably will take him time to process what's going on, evaluate everything. but good that he doesn't seem to have any particular dislike of san antonio
2) :lmao kawhi
3) wow... sixers weren't even willing to include saric in any deal? that just tells me they had ZERO trust in kawhi. and honestly can't really blame them
Yup, hopefully he's damaged goods with the medical stuff as well considering Philly's doctor had him. That'd be amazing for the Spurs :lol
YGWHI
07-18-2018, 12:04 PM
Do you really think if he played in a bigger market, he wouldn't have been eviscerated by the local media and fans, especially when you have a contending team. The Spurs protected Kawhi as best they could even though they were frustrated by the situation. <br>
Since March, the Spurs and SA media were questioning his injury...I wouldn't say they protected him that much. <br>
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Don Harris was saying Kawhi isn't a top 5 player since 2016-17...In the same season, Jeff McDonald after a win over Detroit said that Parker looked amazing and Kawhi shouldn't be the focal point of the offense...Just don't act like SA media "love" Kawhi before this drama. <br>
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Losing a franchise player sucks for sure but based on everything that has happened, Kawhi and his uncle decided prior to this year that they wanted out of SA, period. That is the only narrative that makes sense to this ridiculous story that we as fans had to endure for a year. You can defend them until you are blue in the face but the Spurs have a known track record of taking care of their stars. Even with the unprecedented trade request by LMA, Pop handled it professionally and accommodated his concerns. In Kawhi's case, even with all the personal and team success somehow in his delusional mind the Spurs had done such a wrong that there was no going back. Give me a break.<br>
I don't defend them...I've said his camp is too greedy and unprofessional. But you make my point, losing a franchise players always sucks so...= it's not great if a team can't keep its franchise player.
MoSpur02
07-18-2018, 12:04 PM
Any rumblings on other moves?
Nah. I haven't heard anything to be honest.
DAF86
07-18-2018, 12:05 PM
All that dream about getting Anunoby. :lol
Spur|n|Austin
07-18-2018, 12:07 PM
There are currently 2235 users online (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/online.php). (315 members and 1920 guests)
lol
StrengthAndHonor
07-18-2018, 12:08 PM
Raptor DeMar DeRozan opens up about his personal battle with depression and anxiety: "I stay quiet and standoffish in a sense, in my own personal space, to be able to cope with whatever it is you’ve got to cope with.”
“This depression get the best of me.” (https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2018/02/17/innocuous-demar-derozan-tweet-stirs-social-media-support.html)
Good luck coddling an emotional, overpaid chucker. :lol
rascal
07-18-2018, 12:09 PM
The Spurs made lemonade out of lemons. Kawhi literally screwed the Spurs. Him missing all last season wasn't due to his injury. He was healthy. He sat out and put himself before the entire organization. He demanded to be traded, which is fine, but him saying he only wanted to go to L.A. took any leverage the Spurs may have had away.
The Lakers and Clippers were not going to give up any players that were worth anything. Teams in the East like Boston and Philly weren't willing to give up anything good. So what did you want the Spurs to do?
Keep Kawhi and see how it goes? Nah. He was dividing the locker room. He was a bad teammate. He said things to players that weren't very good. He needed to go. The Spurs best offer was DeMar DeRozan. He's a very good player. Sucks Danny had to go, but the salaries had to match. Sucks the Spurs didn't get any young prospects, but Kawhi is gone and the Spurs got an All Star player in return. The main goal was to move Kawhi and they did that.
Many people wanted to keep Kawhi. You can go back in the threads and see all the people who wanted to keep Kawhi.
TimDunkem
07-18-2018, 12:12 PM
Raptor DeMar DeRozan opens up about his personal battle with depression and anxiety: "I stay quiet and standoffish in a sense, in my own personal space, to be able to cope with whatever it is you’ve got to cope with.”
“This depression get the best of me.” (https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2018/02/17/innocuous-demar-derozan-tweet-stirs-social-media-support.html)
Good luck coddling an emotional, overpaid chucker. :lol
So he gets a little blue and goes on his own now and then to cool off? Big deal. Anything is better than a mute autistic cancer with a Norman Bates-like relationship with his uncle Dennis.
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 12:14 PM
Wasn't JSimms with the autist in Vegas?
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MoSpur02
07-18-2018, 12:15 PM
Many people wanted to keep Kawhi. You can go back in the threads and see all the people who wanted to keep Kawhi.
I was one of them, but he wanted nothing to do with the Spurs or San Antonio. The Spurs (mainly Pop) did all they could to convince him to try to work things out. It didn't work. He had been causing problems in the locker room since last season.
marinoman
07-18-2018, 12:16 PM
Cant believe we’re still stuck with pau and mills
YGWHI
07-18-2018, 12:19 PM
Him missing all last season wasn't due to his injury. He was healthy.
I wonder what you and other people would say if Kawhi's quad doesn't look good when he plays again...
Also, I'm not sure how you can explain why Kawhi didn't look like himself in the 9 games he played last season.
Saying he wasn't injured is just stupid.
His health was one of Spurs' major concerns this offseason and one of the reason why teams didn't make better offers for him...His health and the one-year rental.
Drewlius
07-18-2018, 12:20 PM
I just heard Windy mention that Pop scheduled a press conference. I can’t find anything about it, anyone know any details? Could be pretty juicy, I doubt it, but could be.
bklynspursfan
07-18-2018, 12:20 PM
Wasn't JSimms with the autist in Vegas?
1019595551350886406
Yup. Maybe he's talking to/about Uncle Dennis
BatManu20
07-18-2018, 12:20 PM
Wasn't JSimms with the autist in Vegas?
1019595551350886406
Yea he's just sticking up for his boy. But Simmons probably has a room-temperature IQ just above Kawhi's, tbh... both of them seem dumb as fuck off of a basketball court.
daslicer
07-18-2018, 12:21 PM
I was one of them, but he wanted nothing to do with the Spurs or San Antonio. The Spurs (mainly Pop) did all they could to convince him to try to work things out. It didn't work. He had been causing problems in the locker room since last season.
Could you elaborate on that. Was he starting stuff with players in the sense as throwing insults at them?
RD2191
07-18-2018, 12:21 PM
Wasn't JSimms with the autist in Vegas?
1019595551350886406
That's why Kawhi should've spoken up for himself.
bklynspursfan
07-18-2018, 12:22 PM
I wonder what you and other people would say if Kawhi's quad doesn't look good when he plays again...
Also, I'm not sure how you can explain why Kawhi didn't look like himself in the 9 games he played last season.
Saying he wasn't injured is just stupid.
His health was one of Spurs' major concerns this offseason and one of the reason why teams didn't make better offers for him...His health and the one-year rental.
He didn't look like himself cause he hadn't played competitive basketball in like 7 months or w/e. I don't think anyone expected him to be the MVP immediately
StrengthAndHonor
07-18-2018, 12:22 PM
So he gets a little blue and goes on his own now and then to cool off? Big deal. Anything is better than a mute autistic cancer with a Norman Bates-like relationship with his uncle Dennis.
That Norman Bates reference is funny, Ill give you that. :lol
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 12:23 PM
That's why Kawhi should've spoken up for himself.
Yeah I was going to say, kind of hard to communicate when you have middlemen with self-interests speaking for you.
acoelho1
07-18-2018, 12:24 PM
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Since March, the Spurs and SA media were questioning his injury...I wouldn't say they protected him that much. <br>
<br>
Don Harris was saying Kawhi isn't a top 5 player since 2016-17...In the same season, Jeff McDonald after a win over Detroit said that Parker looked amazing and Kawhi shouldn't be the focal point of the offense...Just don't act like SA media "love" Kawhi before this drama. <br>
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I don't defend them...I've said his camp is too greedy and unprofessional. But you make my point, losing a franchise players always sucks so...= it's not great if a team can't keep its franchise player.
Just stop it.... if you think SA was rough... let's see him handle the media scrutiny in NY, LA or Chicago and he was protected. Just because some frustration got out doesn't change the fact that the Spurs could have made it a lot more uncomfortable. They gave him the necessary space to handle his business and the thanks they got is a trade request.
Furthermore, I'm not making your point. Yes, we lost a franchise player but it doesn't make the Spurs reputation look bad, which was the crux of your argument. Everyone in the league knows the situation regarding the uncle and we will see how Kawhi's career goes from here after leaving the best organization in sports.
Spurs da champs
07-18-2018, 12:25 PM
Wasn't JSimms with the autist in Vegas?
1019595551350886406
That James Greene guy who mentioned uncle Dennis wanting a front office job is going in on J Simms and Dedmon in the replies.
Seventyniner
07-18-2018, 12:26 PM
Just wait until all the dirty laundry starts getting aired. You know it's going to happen. I'd put my money on Parker or Manu (if he retires) to be the first ones to spill.
Maddog
07-18-2018, 12:27 PM
The Spurs made lemonade out of lemons. Kawhi literally screwed the Spurs. Him missing all last season wasn't due to his injury. He was healthy. He sat out and put himself before the entire organization. He demanded to be traded, which is fine, but him saying he only wanted to go to L.A. took any leverage the Spurs may have had away.
The Lakers and Clippers were not going to give up any players that were worth anything. Teams in the East like Boston and Philly weren't willing to give up anything good. So what did you want the Spurs to do?
Keep Kawhi and see how it goes? Nah. He was dividing the locker room. He was a bad teammate. He said things to players that weren't very good. He needed to go. The Spurs best offer was DeMar DeRozan. He's a very good player. Sucks Danny had to go, but the salaries had to match. Sucks the Spurs didn't get any young prospects, but Kawhi is gone and the Spurs got an All Star player in return. The main goal was to move Kawhi and they did that.
I suspect there is a lot of truth in this statement. I'm trying to remember who it was, but someone put together a list of instances where the Spurs have always tried to help or accommodate players who wanted to leave. While the Spurs have admitted not handling this the best they could have- there was never any clear reason why Kawhi couldn't play last year. I got the impression the Spurs where being very generous in their comments or lack of comments until late in the season when frustration hit a maximum.
I like the description in this article
https://deadspin.com/an-extremely-informed-and-credible-analysis-of-the-kawh-1827687427
disgruntled and vaguely hobbled star swingman Kawhi Leonard
I'm slightly disappointed in what they got in return. However that was always going to be the case- That Philly wouldn't produce anything competitive tells me they have concerns and probably more info.
My major disappointment is that with an engaged Leonard, I felt the Spurs had an outside chance of winning it all. In 2017 they where clearly the second best team, and had a roster that while maybe couldn't beat a healthy GSW in 7, but where closer than most think.
I no longer think that. They will win 50+ next year, but probably as constructed not a title conteneder
YGWHI
07-18-2018, 12:27 PM
Raptor DeMar DeRozan opens up about his personal battle with depression and anxiety: "I stay quiet and standoffish in a sense, in my own personal space, to be able to cope with whatever it is you’ve got to cope with.”
“This depression get the best of me.” (https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2018/02/17/innocuous-demar-derozan-tweet-stirs-social-media-support.html)
Good luck coddling an emotional, overpaid chucker. :lol
DeRozan will be fine in SA, he just needs time.
I guess he just hate this trade because what Raptors told him but also because he doesn't want to play in the West where all great guards and it would be hard for him to compete with them for ASG/All NBA teams spots, in the East he didn't have those issues.
daslicer
07-18-2018, 12:28 PM
I wonder what you and other people would say if Kawhi's quad doesn't look good when he plays again...
Also, I'm not sure how you can explain why Kawhi didn't look like himself in the 9 games he played last season.
Saying he wasn't injured is just stupid.
His health was one of Spurs' major concerns this offseason and one of the reason why teams didn't make better offers for him...His health and the one-year rental.
Kawhi looked fine to me the last two games he played with the Spurs. He actually looked like he was back in superstar form and then suddenly he decided not to play for the rest of the year.
RD2191
07-18-2018, 12:28 PM
And J Simmons should stfu. His bitch ass wouldn't even be in the NBA had patfo not given him a chance.
Fair
:lol
Sorry, I should change that. I hope he blows out his quad after signing with the Lakers after the playoffs.
YGWHI
07-18-2018, 12:30 PM
He didn't look like himself cause he hadn't played competitive basketball in like 7 months or w/e. I don't think anyone expected him to be the MVP immediately
Can expect some rust in game 1-4, not 8-9.
But if you think the Spurs and other teams weren't worried about his health this offseason...I can't help.
Robz4000
07-18-2018, 12:30 PM
You mean our guards? We have no wings of value outside Derozan :lol
:lol DeRozan
:lol "value"
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 12:33 PM
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objective
07-18-2018, 12:33 PM
I wonder what you and other people would say if Kawhi's quad doesn't look good when he plays again...
Also, I'm not sure how you can explain why Kawhi didn't look like himself in the 9 games he played last season.
Saying he wasn't injured is just stupid.
His health was one of Spurs' major concerns this offseason and one of the reason why teams didn't make better offers for him...His health and the one-year rental.
I have no doubt he's fully healthy
The whole 'didn't look like himself' narrative is bogus to me.
He missed all of camp and was heavy and out of shape, yet STILL led the Spurs in PER as the most efficient player AND in his last 3 games he had 4 steals in each game
He looked like he hadn't played in a while and was out of game shape, that's all. He was fine and will be a top 3 player when he plays hard
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 12:34 PM
"exiled to another country" :lol
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiZHUQKXUAA-X5P.jpg:large
YGWHI
07-18-2018, 12:34 PM
Yes, we lost a franchise player but it doesn't make the Spurs reputation look bad, which was the crux of your argument. Everyone in the league knows the situation regarding the uncle and we will see how Kawhi's career goes from here after leaving the best organization in sports.
I didn't said "Spurs' reputation", that was part of Bill's post. I said every team looks bad when they can't keep their franchise player.
Mugen
07-18-2018, 12:37 PM
:lol DeRozan
:lol "value"
Like it or not, Robz....Derozan is the only wing with any value on the team :lol
loveforthegame
07-18-2018, 12:37 PM
SAS acting all tough but he’ll be kissing Leonard’s ass if he goes to the Lakers next year.
ducks
07-18-2018, 12:37 PM
when is pop press conference?
leonard has 48 hours to show up to pass his physically unless raptors waive that
SpursDynasty85
07-18-2018, 12:38 PM
"exiled to another country" :lol
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiZHUQKXUAA-X5P.jpg:large
Dang. long time LA media and Lakers supporter, going in pretty hard. Spurs took a hit but Kawhi's camp is taking a punishing. Feel bad for most the ignorant parties. Someone in the agency and/or his group was not ignorant and well. Hope they learned their lesson and truly do what is best for Kawhi and not for their pocket books.
TimDunkem
07-18-2018, 12:38 PM
That James Greene guy who mentioned uncle Dennis wanting a front office job is going in on J Simms and Dedmon in the replies.
Wow. I've completely changed my outlook on the doubling down on Pau and Mills instead of Jon and Dedmon now. Sure, they were better than those guys, but you can't talk shit to your teammates and expect to get what you want.
Especially Jon. He might not even be in the NBA and struggling to feed his kids if it wasn't for the Spurs supporting him.
Cancers...cancers everywhere.
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 12:39 PM
Whoever called the press conference earlier in this thread (or some other thread)
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bklynspursfan
07-18-2018, 12:40 PM
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Pavlov
07-18-2018, 12:41 PM
I wonder what you and other people would say if Kawhi's quad doesn't look good when he plays again...
Also, I'm not sure how you can explain why Kawhi didn't look like himself in the 9 games he played last season.
Saying he wasn't injured is just stupid.
His health was one of Spurs' major concerns this offseason and one of the reason why teams didn't make better offers for him...His health and the one-year rental.Also he's a turd.
gambit1990
07-18-2018, 12:41 PM
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i'm assuming kawhi could fake failing a physical? could he be like, "it hurts when i do x"?
i'm also assuming the raptors could waive a failed physical though?
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 12:41 PM
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What an annoying faggot that guy is. Don't know why that shit pisses me off. :lol
picnroll
07-18-2018, 12:42 PM
If Pop has a conference undoubtedly he’ll say complimentary things about Kawhitter. Too bad, wish he’d rip him s new hole.
RD2191
07-18-2018, 12:43 PM
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Bitch ass nigga tbh
gambit1990
07-18-2018, 12:43 PM
Whoever called the press conference earlier in this thread (or some other thread)
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i really hope he comes clean and doesn't hold back... the truth will set you free pop.
i'm assuming kawhi could fake failing a physical? could he be like, "it hurts when i do x"?
i'm also assuming the raptors could waive a failed physical though?
I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be a little more involved than a doctor asking, "Tell us where it hurts, Kawhi"
BillMc
07-18-2018, 12:44 PM
Whoever called the press conference earlier in this thread (or some other thread)
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Anyone know where we can get a stream for that?
offset formation
07-18-2018, 12:45 PM
that was the joke. Usually, the line is something like, "bend over, I'll fucking show you 12" or "bend over, I'll fucking show you a hot take"
I thought the self deprecating angle was funny.
I didn't need the implication explained to me by whoever that was.
I got it.
HarlemHeat37
07-18-2018, 12:45 PM
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Who are these gay-ass fans on twitter always writing this corny shit in the replies? "We miss you!" :lol I hope nobody here does that..
Spurs9
07-18-2018, 12:46 PM
Whoever called the press conference earlier in this thread (or some other thread)
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Where can it be watched?
YGWHI
07-18-2018, 12:46 PM
Wow. I've completely changed my outlook on the doubling down on Pau and Mills instead of Jon and Dedmon now. Sure, they were better than those guys, but you can't talk shit to your teammates and expect to get what you want.
Especially Jon. He might not even be in the NBA and struggling to feed his kids if it wasn't for the Spurs supporting him.
Cancers...cancers everywhere.
Can't remember Simms talking shit about his teammates before...Dedmon just liked an article saying he deserved more minutes.
If we call "cancer" every player that wanted more money/minutes...we're in trouble.
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 12:46 PM
Kawhi is going to go all Peter Griffin during the physical
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6ZtpRoYe9wbyfcBi/giphy.gif
dabom
07-18-2018, 12:47 PM
Who are these gay-ass fans on twitter always writing this corny shit in the replies? "We miss you!" :lol I hope nobody here does that..
Twitter/reddit nba fans. :lol
szkorhetz
07-18-2018, 12:49 PM
i really hope he comes clean and doesn't hold back... the truth will set you free pop.
callo1
07-18-2018, 12:51 PM
Keeping it short.
Glad it is over.
The Spurs will be a better team next year than they were last year.
Now we should be getting a decision from Manu soon.
gambit1990
07-18-2018, 12:51 PM
Twitter/reddit nba fans. :lol
TimDunkem
07-18-2018, 12:52 PM
Can't remember Simms talking shit about his teammates before...Dedmon just liked an article saying he deserved more minutes.
If we call "cancer" every player that wanted more money/minutes...we're in trouble.
Stuff happens behind the scenes. Just because YGWHI didn't hear about it on ST doesn't mean Jon and Dedmon didn't act cancerous behind the scenes.
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 12:54 PM
I think WOAI is streaming Pop's press conference live. You gotta click on where it says "WOAI LIVE Event" on the right side.
https://news4sanantonio.com/watch
szkorhetz
07-18-2018, 12:56 PM
I think WOAI is streaming Pop's press conference live. You gotta click on where it says "WOAI LIVE Event" on the right side.
https://news4sanantonio.com/watchŰ
Thanks!
Holden_Caulfield
07-18-2018, 12:56 PM
Now we just need a sf prospect. Drop bp3 and Where is nwaba can he sign for the min.
Dverde
07-18-2018, 12:56 PM
That Pop press conference is about talking to DeMar DeRozan. As Pop told Borrego (Woj Podcast), you gotta reach out to players right away.
szkorhetz
07-18-2018, 12:57 PM
What if Pop announces his retirement?
offset formation
07-18-2018, 12:58 PM
I knoew RC was going to destroy this franchise someday. I just didn't think it was going to happen so soon after Duncan retired.
Thanks GM. You're a daft moron.
Spur|n|Austin
07-18-2018, 12:58 PM
There are currently 2235 users online (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/online.php). (315 members and 1920 guests)
lol
WTF is that faggot JSimms laughing about?
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 01:00 PM
Got these links from reddit:
https://www.ksat.com/live/live-spurs-officials-news-conference-on-trade-involving-kawhi-leonard
https://www.facebook.com/KSAT12/videos/10157632290443858/
callo1
07-18-2018, 01:00 PM
Coming on KSAT now.
BatManu20
07-18-2018, 01:01 PM
SportsCenter just said Pop is about to hold a press conference any moment now on ESPN.
YGWHI
07-18-2018, 01:01 PM
Stuff happens behind the scenes. Just because YGWHI didn't hear about it on ST doesn't mean Jon and Dedmon didn't act cancerous behind the scenes.
Sure. Because you really heard about those "behind the scenes" stuff, right? :lol
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 01:01 PM
He's on!
spurraider21
07-18-2018, 01:02 PM
SportsCenter just said Pop is about to hold a press conference any moment now on ESPN.
he's gonna show up, stumbling to the table, with a half-empty bottle in a brown paper bag
imo
Spur|n|Austin
07-18-2018, 01:03 PM
Presser live now
https://news4sanantonio.com/watch
szkorhetz
07-18-2018, 01:03 PM
Pop seems older than ever.
offset formation
07-18-2018, 01:03 PM
I can’t believe some of yous are melting down so much:sleep
Really? I actually expected worse. I think most people realize that all in all, this wasn't bad. Kawhi put us in a really shitty spot. And yet we got a 1st round pick, a potential solid bench guy and an All-star player out of the shit hand.
Fuck the haters. What I actually love about them is that they think RC didn't ever actually request OG or a unprotected pick. Lol. Oh well, I'm just glad he's not in lala land.
timtonymanu
07-18-2018, 01:03 PM
Damn Pop looks so drained
BatManu20
07-18-2018, 01:03 PM
Pop looks like he's ready to throw back a couple bottles of wine tonight. Looks stressed and tired as fuck. Been a rough few months for him...
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 01:04 PM
"at this point, it's time to move on"
Killakobe81
07-18-2018, 01:04 PM
Derozan valued loyalty. He shunned every pitch during FA to stay in Toronto. He was salary dumped. DUMPED, I’m telling you to San Antonio. That does not bode well for you guys.
that is why he is mad.
I think once he gets over it he has to think SPurs are a better spot than Toronto as a basketball franchise overall.
Problem is he was teh #1 see in the east with no Lebron ...
Now he back with Lebron and will be a #3 at best probably a 6th or 7th at worst.
Who are these gay-ass fans on twitter always writing this corny shit in the replies? "We miss you!" :lol I hope nobody here does that..
Casuals bro. We have a Spurs slack channel at my work and all of the people in it think this was a great trade. I got castrated for saying otherwise. One guy even went as far as saying it’s all part of pops plan to make one more title run before retiring :lol
slick'81
07-18-2018, 01:05 PM
Pop kissing his ass
szkorhetz
07-18-2018, 01:05 PM
Pop is too self-controlled.
Killakobe81
07-18-2018, 01:05 PM
Damn Pop looks so drained
Staying classy and speaking highly of Kawhi/Danny ...and of the new guys like DD & Poetl.
Pop says he is moving on dwelling on the past.
Wow. I've completely changed my outlook on the doubling down on Pau and Mills instead of Jon and Dedmon now. Sure, they were better than those guys, but you can't talk shit to your teammates and expect to get what you want.
Especially Jon. He might not even be in the NBA and struggling to feed his kids if it wasn't for the Spurs supporting him.
Cancers...cancers everywhere.
The team the team the team.
You don't want to fall in line, fuck you. GTFO.
SpursforSix
07-18-2018, 01:06 PM
I got it.
I know. It was the first guy with an eagle in his avatar that I was referring to.
In any event, I suppose enough time has been spent on my disappointing package.
Back to the clusterfuck at hand.
BillMc
07-18-2018, 01:07 PM
So if Kawhi just refuses to show up for his physical is the deal voided? Does he become our headache again?
NASpurs
07-18-2018, 01:07 PM
That question about how difficult this offseason has been for Pop both professionally and personally . Who fucking asked that stupid ass question
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