Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[DPG21920]

It won't be Fultz he's not being traded so you don't have to worry. I think it'll be Covington/Saric/Filler+Miami Pick, Sixers 2019 pick, rights to Kings 1st 2019 protected pick.

I find it truly hard to believe SA would trade with PHI and not get Fultz. If that is true, then PHI just blew their chance at ever doing anything with their core.

[spurraider21]

:lol Fultz isn't even good, it's basically just a way for the franchise to save face...if they can't even pull his bust ass in a deal then they should just let Kawhi walk for nothing next season tbh
he's an injury-ravaged season removed from being a consensus #1 pick and is 20 years old. he's still a blue chip prospect. saric/convington is nice but offers no upside.

[SixersFan]

So Kawhi is going to Boston eh?

Doesn't look like they're offering Jaylen Brown for someone who said Philly are the only Eastern Conference side he'd consider resigning with.

[Morgo]

If we were to deal with Toronto.. surely we would be offloading some of our bad contracts as well? (Mills, Pau)

You could kill two birds with one stone depending on what we get back...

[SixersFan]

Who do you plan to get him with, Saric and Covington on an awful contract?

I'm not in the know so I'm not sure. I know as much as you guys but maybe we throw in Zhaire in a few weeks, Boldon?, Korkmaz?, Shameet? are some options.

[Holden_Caulfield]

I'd only take RoCo if we include patty in any Philly deal.

[tonight...you]

If we were to deal with Toronto.. surely we would be offloading some of our bad contracts as well? (Mills, Pau)

You could kill two birds with one stone depending on what we get back...
They'd want to offload Demar DeOverpaid right back though.

[DPG21920]

https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/1016446528209149952

An article for those who think we'll trade Markelle, I'm so confident in his ability i'd be prepared to walk away from a deal and I think Brett Brown feels the same if it ever got to the point Fultz was needed to secure Kawhi which is why I know he won't be included if we get him which I'm growing in confidence we will.

So they hope and pray Fultz gets as good as.................Kawhi :lol?

Hey, I’m not going to give you this lottery ticket because the jackpot IF I win is $1,000,000 and they winning ticket you are trying to trade me is only worth $999,999.

[spurraider21]

I'd only take RoCo if we include patty in any Philly deal.
i'd take RoCo regardless tbh. he's a plus

[Robz4000]

Doesn't look like they're offering Jaylen Brown for someone who said Philly are the only Eastern Conference side he'd consider resigning with.

Regardless, Philly's package sans Fultz is every bit as shitty as what the Lakers offer. It'd be better for the Spurs to hold onto Kawhi and try to resign him. If not they at least aren't tied down by mediocre prospects that put them no closer to contention.

[NASpurs]

So they hope and pray Fultz gets as good as.................Kawhi :lol?

Hey, I’m not going to give you this lottery ticket because the jackpot IF I win is $1,000,000 and they winning ticket you are trying to trade me is only worth $999,999.

:lol

[DPG21920]

Doesn't look like they're offering Jaylen Brown for someone who said Philly are the only Eastern Conference side he'd consider resigning with.

If it’s true that PHI is getting some assurances, then they are even dumber than I thought for not offering Fultz.

[SixersFan]

I find it truly hard to believe SA would trade with PHI and not get Fultz. If that is true, then PHI just blew their chance at ever doing anything with their core.

We'll see, this forum seems down on Fultz yet would happily take him in a trade. Our core is Embiid/Simmons AND Fultz. I saw enough fo Fultz in his brief appearances towards the end of the season to know if he gets his jumper down he's a multiple time all star such was his ability. He can do absolutely everything on a court bar the obvious, also an underrated defender.

If he does fufill his potential then we have another ball handler in the lineup on a rookie contract on the ascendency, we'll be fine.

[FireMicoHalili]

If we were to deal with Toronto.. surely we would be offloading some of our bad contracts as well? (Mills, Pau)

You could kill two birds with one stone depending on what we get back...
DeRozan, Anunoby, and Valanciunas for Leonard, Mills, and Gasol works in the Trade Machine. Toronto will most certainly have to add picks given they’re offloading a terrible contract in DeRozan. The Spurs can throw in Brandon Paul but I’m not sure he has any value and if he moves the needle in any significant way. DeRozan’s and Anunoby’s deals expire simultaneously so if San Antonio hypothetically wouldn’t want to keep DeRozan, Anunoby would be a good insurance policy. Anunoby was compared to Kawhi, kind of a Leonard lite with healthy quads and hopefully no money-hungry uncles.

[spurraider21]

Regardless, Philly's package sans Fultz is every bit as shitty as what the Lakers offer. It'd be better for the Spurs to hold onto Kawhi and try to resign him. If not they get at least aren't tied down by mediocre prospects that put them no closer to contention.
if there's no flutz i'd probably prefer a lakers package with ingram to a pure saric/covington offer. the sixers deal is better short term without much to be excited about going forward. bolden and another pick instead of fultz? i dont know. but saric/covington isn't going to get this done

[DPG21920]

We'll see, this forum seems down on Fultz yet would happily take him in a trade. Our core is Embiid/Simmons AND Fultz. I saw enough fo Fultz in his brief appearances towards the end of the season to know if he gets his jumper down he's a multiple time all star such was his ability. He can do absolutely everything on a court bar the obvious, also an underrated defender.

If he does fufill his potential then we have another ball handler in the lineup on a rookie contract on the ascendency, we'll be fine.

So who is better: Embiid/Simmons AND Fultz (assuming he actually does become an all-star) or Embiid/Simmons AND Kawhi who is an MVP level player and 2x DPOY?

[Leetonidas]

Did registration open again or what

[Chillen]

Total Pop move tbh, so Kawhi you want to be a Laker/Clipper this season? well nah, your getting traded to Toronto, Canada to play for the Raptors.

Anyway I sense these rumors could turn into a 3 team trade with Philly, Raptors and Spurs. The question is who would get Kawhi? Philly or Toronto.

[DPG21920]

We'll see, this forum seems down on Fultz yet would happily take him in a trade. Our core is Embiid/Simmons AND Fultz. I saw enough fo Fultz in his brief appearances towards the end of the season to know if he gets his jumper down he's a multiple time all star such was his ability. He can do absolutely everything on a court bar the obvious, also an underrated defender.

If he does fufill his potential then we have another ball handler in the lineup on a rookie contract on the ascendency, we'll be fine.

So you think adding All-Star Fultz bridges the 4-1 playoff defeat gap when Boston is adding All-Star Kyrie and All-Star Hayward :lol?

[FireMicoHalili]

We'll see, this forum seems down on Fultz yet would happily take him in a trade. Our core is Embiid/Simmons AND Fultz. I saw enough fo Fultz in his brief appearances towards the end of the season to know if he gets his jumper down he's a multiple time all star such was his ability. He can do absolutely everything on a court bar the obvious, also an underrated defender.

If he does fufill his potential then we have another ball handler in the lineup on a rookie contract on the ascendency, we'll be fine.
Hey, question, is Fultz still hurt? He’s not getting any burn on Summer League. Normally someone who hasn’t played most of the year might want to play there to get in the rhythm of things. And what is up with that jump shot? Form looked great in college, what’s with that funky looking jumper?

[DAF86]

I'm not in the know so I'm not sure. I know as much as you guys but maybe we throw in Zhaire in a few weeks, Boldon?, Korkmaz?, Shameet? are some options.

Neither of those guys is worth a top 3 player on the peak of his powers, tbh. You would be dumb to not get Kawhi because of Fultz. In the unlikely scenario that Markel snaps out of whatever is wrong with him, he will never even be half of the player Kawhi is.

You need to take advantage of the fact that we really don't want to trade Kawhi to the Lakers, give us Fultz, Miami's 2020 pick and run away as fast as robbers do after committing a felony.

[raybies]

Saric and Covington? :lmao for Kawhi Leonard :lmao

[DPG21920]

I mean, how crazy are people :lol

Talking about a guys potential when in the same article they linked people were excited he was finally able to shoot the ball from further than 5 feet??? Am I taking crazy pills.

I had a PHI fan tell me on Twitter that they didn’t want to “sell low” on Fultz. As if getting a legit MVP caliber player was selling LOW for a guy that MIGHT be a good player :lol

[tonight...you]

So who is better: Embiid/Simmons AND Fultz (assuming he actually does become an all-star) or Embiid/Simmons AND Kawhi who is an MVP level player and 2x DPOY?
Sniper shot, right there.

[dabom]

Testing, testing.

This is my first post. Checking to see if I have permissions to post.

Anyway, I can't wait for all of this Kawhi drama to be over with.

I am obviously new to this message boards.

Are there any legit, respected insiders on this board? If so, who are they?

Is there any truth to the Philadelphia rumor for Kawhi?

Hated to see TP leave. End of an era for sure.

Hope ya'll are good.

Go Spurs!

Sup faggot. :lol

[NASpurs]

Seems like Spurs fan isn’t the only one who overrates their trash :lol

[FireMicoHalili]

I mean, now crazy are people :lol

Talking about a guys potential when in the same article they linked people were excited he was finally able to shoot the ball from further than 5 feet??? Am I taking crazy pills.

I had a PHI fan tell me on Twitter that they didn’t want to “sell low” on Fultz. As if getting a legit MVP caliber player was selling LOW for a guy that MIGHT be a good player :lol
They’re understandably high on him since he hasn’t given them a full season. YouTube highlights give anyone a lot of false optimism. They’ll probably lose infatuation after a full season of mediocre results.

[Robz4000]

Seems like Spurs fan isn’t the only one who overrates their trash :lol

Every team has those fans tbh, regardless of sport. They're called homers.

Still, :lol not trading Fultz for Kawhi because he MIGHT turn into a good player.

[dabom]

Did registration open again or what

Owners got in for a bit.

[SixersFan]

So you think adding All-Star Fultz bridges the 4-1 playoff defeat gap when Boston is adding All-Star Kyrie and All-Star Hayward :lol?

In 4 of the 5 games it was decided on the last few possessions, we were naive in our execution and we payed for it. But bar the first game they did not blow us out in any game, Embiid was also playing with a mask until the last game which he got 29/13 and it clearly impacted him. I'm confident in our ability to take them should we get production from Fultz and Embiid and Simmons continue their rise into superstardom.

[DPG21920]

They’re understandably high on him since he hasn’t given them a full season. YouTube highlights give anyone a lot of false optimism. They’ll probably lose infatuation after a full season of mediocre results.

I’m high on Fultz. But how can you be SO high on Fultz that you think getting a known Superstar for a possible one while keeping your other two younger players who are better than him right now too is a bad thing?

[tonight...you]

Sup faggot. :lol
Lol... haven't discoursed with you in a hot minute. How've you been bruv?

[DPG21920]

In 4 of the 5 games it was decided on the last few possessions, we were naive in our execution and we payed for it. But bar the first game they did not blow us out in any game, Embiid was also playing with a mask until the last game which he got 29/13 and it clearly impacted him. I'm confident in our ability to take them should we get production from Fultz and Embiid and Simmons continue their rise into superstardom.

Do you just think that Tatum and Brown are going to not develop while PHI young guys continue to ascend?

[FireMicoHalili]

Seems like Spurs fan isn’t the only one who overrates their trash :lol
To be fair, the Spurs are peddling someone with questionable health and commitment. Hard to mortgage young assets for someone who’s going to cause trouble to the organization. Who’s to say he won’t pull this crap on a new team?

[dabom]

Lol... haven't discoursed with you in a hot minute. How've you been bruv?

Good man. Life is going great right now. Thanks for asking. :tu

[SpursDynasty85]

Most people dont grasp the risk of losing him after 1 year. You end up looking stupid giving away SIGNIFICANT young assets only for Kawhi to give the deuce the next year. Spurs wouldn't do that for a top player unless they showed sincerity to sign an extension or actually do sign it.

[tonight...you]

Good man. Life is going great right now. Thanks for asking. :tu
Great to hear. Keep living large, big dog.
Enjoy your stuff.

[TD 21]

So they hope and pray Fultz gets as good as.................Kawhi :lol?

Hey, I’m not going to give you this lottery ticket because the jackpot IF I win is $1,000,000 and they winning ticket you are trying to trade me is only worth $999,999.

:lol Why do we seem to be the only ones who get this?

This should be straightforward: If the package doesn't begin with Fultz and Covington, there is no deal.

Anything less and the Spurs would literally be left without a single perimeter scorer/play maker in the starting lineup and no one with perceived star potential.

I don't care how much is conspiring to drive down Leonard's value, you don't trade a top 5 player for that.




Nope he's training with Hanlen a skills coach in California. Brett mentioned a few weeks ago it was likely he'd skip the Summer to continue to correct his shot with his personal trainer. Brett Brown has been very optimistic when discussing Fultz and so has Hanlen with multiple tweets like

https://twitter.com/DrewHanlen/status/1016088798457761793
every few weeks. Brown said this yesterday

“I have tremendous optimism and confidence that he’s going to have a hell of a year next year. I believe that completely and just really excited to see him with us and bring him back into our program on a full-time basis.”

:lmao Why are you taking these words for gospel? This is a negotiation. Both sides are trying to leverage the other and there's no guarantee a trade gets made between the two. He's not going to come out to the media and insinuate otherwise.

[SixersFan]

Hey, question, is Fultz still hurt? He’s not getting any burn on Summer League. Normally someone who hasn’t played most of the year might want to play there to get in the rhythm of things. And what is up with that jump shot? Form looked great in college, what’s with that funky looking jumper?

Nope he's training with Hanlen a skills coach in California. Brett mentioned a few weeks ago it was likely he'd skip the Summer to continue to correct his shot with his personal trainer. Brett Brown has been very optimistic when discussing Fultz and so has Hanlen with multiple tweets like https://twitter.com/DrewHanlen/status/1016088798457761793 every few weeks. Brown said this yesterday “I have tremendous optimism and confidence that he’s going to have a hell of a year next year. I believe that completely and just really excited to see him with us and bring him back into our program on a full-time basis.”

[SixersFan]

Most people dont grasp the risk of losing him after 1 year. You end up looking stupid giving away SIGNIFICANT young assets only for Kawhi to give the deuce the next year. Spurs wouldn't do that for a top player unless they showed sincerity to sign an extension or actually do sign it.

Agreed.

[tonight...you]

Most people dont grasp the risk of losing him after 1 year. You end up looking stupid giving away SIGNIFICANT young assets only for Kawhi to give the deuce the next year. Spurs wouldn't do that for a top player unless they showed sincerity to sign an extension or actually do sign it.
True... true.
And then there's the Paul George scenario that gives teams hopes also.
People also thought Westbrook was a lock to leave also.

And we are talking about Oklahoma City here...

[Robz4000]

Most people dont grasp the risk of losing him after 1 year. You end up looking stupid giving away SIGNIFICANT young assets only for Kawhi to give the deuce the next year. Spurs wouldn't do that for a top player unless they showed sincerity to sign an extension or actually do sign it.

Kawhi's camp has come out and said he'd strongly consider resigning in Philly. With Kawhi seemingly no longer that high on LA and Philly being able to offer the most money if they trade for him, seems like a good bet he'd stay.

[dabom]

Great to hear. Keep living large, big dog.
Enjoy your stuff.

Will do big red.

[DAF86]

if there's no flutz i'd probably prefer a lakers package with ingram to a pure saric/covington offer. the sixers deal is better short term without much to be excited about going forward. bolden and another pick instead of fultz? i dont know. but saric/covington isn't going to get this done

Don't the Sixers have Miami's 2020 pick? That projects to be a lottery pick.

[DPG21920]

It’s pretty damn simple IMO although I fully understand what teams are doing. I think they are stupid and will end up losing their jobs over it eventually, but they are playing the “leverage” game vs just doing a deal that they know will tremendously help their team.

They know Fultz is worth Kawhi, but because Kawhi is doing damage to the Spurs they are TRYING to not have to include Fultz. Its stupid and silly, but that is how business works sometimes.

But big picture, there is zero downside for PHI in terms of truly harming their future. Let’s just make two assumptions: Fultz reaches his ceiling and becomes James Harden and Kawhi leaves PHI after one year.

I think everyone would agree that is worst case scenario by far. Forgetting that Fultz becoming Harden is very unlikely and that Kawhi seems to be willing to give PHI a shot to re-sign him, if that happens, PHI is still in a tremendous spot.

Fultz didn’t play this year and PHI had a great season. They would still have virtually all the same assets (especially if the trade included Wilson Chandler vs RoCo) as this year, their two MAIN cornerstones and still a ton of cap space to replace Kawhi with another player(s).

So even if worst case scenario played out, PHI would have a reasonable path to still being an NBA finals team all things considered.

Would it suck if that happened to them? For sure, but it’s really unlikely and even if it did they are still a very good team.

The upside is obviously franchise altering.

[Mugen]

:lol Brett has always been a very positive guy, i'm not sure he can just flat out say "This kid is fucking trash, i can't believe ownership is making me hold onto him for Kawhi fucking Leonard"

[Robz4000]

Nope he's training with Hanlen a skills coach in California. Brett mentioned a few weeks ago it was likely he'd skip the Summer to continue to correct his shot with his personal trainer. Brett Brown has been very optimistic when discussing Fultz and so has Hanlen with multiple tweets like https://twitter.com/DrewHanlen/status/1016088798457761793 every few weeks. Brown said this yesterday “I have tremendous optimism and confidence that he’s going to have a hell of a year next year. I believe that completely and just really excited to see him with us and bring him back into our program on a full-time basis.”

Of course they would, what else would they say? "Fultz is fucked, we don't see him ever turning it around."

[raybies]

I mean, how crazy are people :lol

Talking about a guys potential when in the same article they linked people were excited he was finally able to shoot the ball from further than 5 feet??? Am I taking crazy pills.

I had a PHI fan tell me on Twitter that they didn’t want to “sell low” on Fultz. As if getting a legit MVP caliber player was selling LOW for a guy that MIGHT be a good player :lol
I have no idea man. Maybe I’m clueless to Kawhi’s real value right now. Maybe a year without Kawhi was long enough for people to forget how dominate he is when healthy... best perimeter defender in the league, back to back dpoy and on top of that can carry a whole team offensively. Best two way player in the game. Runner up in MVP voting, All NBA... for Saric and Covington. Not a star but role players. The league out they gaht dam mind.

[tonight...you]

Will do big red.
Funny. The hair on my head isn't red at all, but I sport a healthy biker beard and there's a lot of red in it.
I'll take this moniker... Thank you!

[Mugen]

The fit of Fultz with Kawhi/Simmons/Embiid isn't even good :lol

[SpursforSix]

Did registration open again or what

Hmm...well they still haven’t approved my “Pedo Avante” alt. So I guess not.

[DAF86]

So they hope and pray Fultz gets as good as.................Kawhi :lol?

Hey, I’m not going to give you this lottery ticket because the jackpot IF I win is $1,000,000 and they winning ticket you are trying to trade me is only worth $999,999.

It actually is: "I know you are offering me 1 million dollar on cash, but I'm feeling optimistic about this 5k lottery ticket. So, no deal".

[SixersFan]

The fit of Fultz with Kawhi/Simmons/Embiid isn't even good :lol

We saw a brief preview of how it would be when TJ Mcconnell played alongside Simmons in the Celtics series and it worked superbly. Brown was reluctant to throw Fultz alongside Simmons but should he regain his ability to make shots another ball handler in the lineup is essential. His length also allows him to guard 1-2's.

[raybies]

Just wait it out and if nothing comes forgetabouit. Can’t just giveaway a top 3 player to any of these scumbags.

[Mugen]

:lol I'm not gonna argue with a Sixers fan that's probably one of apa the murse's alts.

This is like if Spurfan said "man we can't give up Dejounte, i don't care how good Anthony Davis is...."

[LkrFan]

It’s pretty damn simple IMO although I fully understand what teams are doing. I think they are stupid and will end up losing their jobs over it eventually, but they are playing the “leverage” game vs just doing a deal that they know will tremendously help their team.

They know Fultz is worth Kawhi, but because Kawhi is doing damage to the Spurs they are TRYING to not have to include Fultz. Its stupid and silly, but that is how business works sometimes.

But big picture, there is zero downside for PHI in terms of truly harming their future. Let’s just make two assumptions: Fultz reaches his ceiling and becomes James Harden and Kawhi leaves PHI after one year.

I think everyone would agree that is worst case scenario by far. Forgetting that Fultz becoming Harden is very unlikely and that Kawhi seems to be willing to give PHI a shot to re-sign him, if that happens, PHI is still in a tremendous spot.

Fultz didn’t play this year and PHI had a great season. They would still have virtually all the same assets (especially if the trade included Wilson Chandler vs RoCo) as this year, their two MAIN cornerstones and still a ton of cap space to replace Kawhi with another player(s).

So even if worst case scenario played out, PHI would have a reasonable path to still being an NBA finals team all things considered.

Would it suck if that happened to them? For sure, but it’s really unlikely and even if it did they are still a very good team.

The upside is obviously franchise altering.

You can say the same about Spurs PATFO in refusing to trade with the Lakers tbh :downspin:

[tonight...you]

The fit of Fultz with Kawhi/Simmons/Embiid isn't even good :lol
It's all a ruse by Philly to make Fultz look more valuable than he is.
Everybody is playing poker, on the real, right now.
I'm glad Pop and RC aren't being impatient and pushing their chips in.

[Mugen]

If the offers out there really are straight trash (PHI w/o Fultz, LA w/o Ingram, Clippers), then sign me up for the 1% chance the Spurs win a championship next year and Kawhi walks for nothing...

Because that is significantly better than the 0% chance the Spurs will be relevant for the next 10 years if they took such a shit offer....

[tonight...you]

You can say the same about Spurs PATFO in refusing to trade with the Lakers tbh :downspin:
Blah blah blah... I do love your avi though.
I think I've complimented you multiple time on it, you magnificent bastard.

[Mugen]

You can say the same about Spurs PATFO in refusing to trade with the Lakers tbh :downspin:

The last couple of pages were retarded enough without you chiming in with your two pesos, Eduardo

[DPG21920]

What SA should do is be reverse mind-screwing these teams. Instead of talking about Kawhi trades since the other teams are arguing all the negatives, flip it and engage them on trades for their stars. Offer up more than they are offering for Kawhi and when they say no say “wait a minute, you said stars aren’t worth this much but now when I offer you more for your stars all of the sudden it’s not enough” :lol

Just to see them scramble.

[tonight...you]

If the offers out there really are straight trash (PHI w/o Fultz, LA w/o Ingram, Clippers), then sign me up for the 1% chance the Spurs win a championship next year and Kawhi walks for nothing...

Because that is significantly better than the 0% chance the Spurs will be relevant for the next 10 years if they took such a shit offer....
And all the awkward BS we can look forward to with Kawhi and Uncle Dennis along the way!
This would be my personal choice of things to happen, even if they don't win it all.

[LkrFan]

The last couple of pages were retarded enough without you chiming in with your two pesos, Eduardo

:lol

[Robz4000]

:lol I'm not gonna argue with a Sixers fan that's probably one of apa the murse's alts.

This is like if Spurfan said "man we can't give up Dejounte, i don't care how good Anthony Davis is...."

Bruh, we're talking about a guy that has Tony Parker penetration + Derrick Rose athleticsm + Steve Nash shooting ability.

[DAF86]

It’s pretty damn simple IMO although I fully understand what teams are doing. I think they are stupid and will end up losing their jobs over it eventually, but they are playing the “leverage” game vs just doing a deal that they know will tremendously help their team.

They know Fultz is worth Kawhi, but because Kawhi is doing damage to the Spurs they are TRYING to not have to include Fultz. Its stupid and silly, but that is how business works sometimes.

But big picture, there is zero downside for PHI in terms of truly harming their future. Let’s just make two assumptions: Fultz reaches his ceiling and becomes James Harden and Kawhi leaves PHI after one year.

I think everyone would agree that is worst case scenario by far. Forgetting that Fultz becoming Harden is very unlikely and that Kawhi seems to be willing to give PHI a shot to re-sign him, if that happens, PHI is still in a tremendous spot.

Fultz didn’t play this year and PHI had a great season. They would still have virtually all the same assets (especially if the trade included Wilson Chandler vs RoCo) as this year, their two MAIN cornerstones and still a ton of cap space to replace Kawhi with another player(s).

So even if worst case scenario played out, PHI would have a reasonable path to still being an NBA finals team all things considered.

Would it suck if that happened to them? For sure, but it’s really unlikely and even if it did they are still a very good team.

The upside is obviously franchise altering.

If I was the Spurs I would be like: "look, enough with the bullshit. Kawhi's camp said they would sign with you if Kawhi's traded here. This is the only way you have of getting him. He's not signing with you in free agency without having played for you the previous year. So that's that. The only way you get Kawhi is if you give us Fultz and that Miami pick. That's it. Do you want a player that will be the best player in the league for the next 5 seasons, or do you want to see if your physically and mentally broken prospect pans out? Put up or shut up."

[tonight...you]

What SA should do is be reverse mind-screwing these teams. Instead of talking about Kawhi trades since the other teams are arguing all the negatives, flip it and engage them on trades for their stars. Offer up more than they are offering for Kawhi and when they say no say “wait a minute, you said stars aren’t worth this much but now when I offer you more for your stars all of the sudden it’s not enough” :lol

Just to see them scramble.
It sounds like this is what they've been doing from the beginning.

[DPG21920]

You can say the same about Spurs PATFO in refusing to trade with the Lakers tbh :downspin:

My friend, I know this is sort of my catchphrase but in this instance I truly mean it: That literally doesn’t make any sense.

[LkrFan]

Blah blah blah... I do love your avi though.
I think I've complimented you multiple time on it, you magnificent bastard.

:toast

[DPG21920]

I mean, SA already told PHI that their offer was totally unaccapetable. They know.

[LkrFan]

My friend, I know this is sort of my catchphrase but in this instance I truly mean it: That literally doesn’t make any sense.

:lol

Sure it does. The Lakers have the best available package. PATFO gonna draw this out and make some GMs make absolute shit offers, all because you farmers hate LA. It's quite comical tbh :lol

[LkrFan]

I mean, SA already told PHI that their offer was totally unaccapetable. They know.

And why would you want Fultz? His shot is busted worse than Lonzo's :lmao

[DPG21920]

Right, like instead of offering up Kawhi to BOS, just go try to get Kyrie for the same logic.

“Danny, Kyrie missed a lot of time, he wants out, and you don’t have any leverage. He will be leaving you unless you trade him. He only has one year left on his deal so he is majorly risky between that and his injury concerns. You can’t have any of our top 5 players, but we will give you some picks for him.”

[Mugen]

Lock this fucker up with a supermax and trade him to Presti in a couple of years tbh.

[dabom]

:lol

Sure it does. The Lakers have the best available package. PATFO gonna draw this out and make some GMs make absolute shit offers, all because you farmers hate LA. It's quite comical tbh :lol

LA doesn't have shit hombre. :lol

[tonight...you]

:lol

Sure it does. The Lakers have the best available package. PATFO gonna draw this out and make some GMs make absolute shit offers, all because you farmers hate LA. It's quite comical tbh :lol
I'd almost rather be a farmer at this point. And I work with Hollywood on the daily. Horrible, horrible people in "The Business".

[DPG21920]

:lol

Sure it does. The Lakers have the best available package. PATFO gonna draw this out and make some GMs make absolute shit offers, all because you farmers hate LA. It's quite comical tbh :lol

LA may have the “best” potential package but they have not made a good offer. Sorry. You are some how going to land Lebron and your franchise will muck it up and you still will suck :lol

[raybies]

:lol

Sure it does. The Lakers have the best available package. PATFO gonna draw this out and make some GMs make absolute shit offers, all because you farmers hate LA. It's quite comical tbh :lol
From what you know in LA, what is on the table then?

[LkrFan]

LA doesn't have shit hombre. :lol

:lmao

[DAF86]

:lol

Sure it does. The Lakers have the best available package. PATFO gonna draw this out and make some GMs make absolute shit offers, all because you farmers hate LA. It's quite comical tbh :lol

lol what best available package? :lol

The Lakers have no desirable draft picks and they won't to part with both Ingram and Kuzma. What desirable package are you talking about? :lol

[DPG21920]

And why would you want Fultz? His shot is busted worse than Lonzo's :lmao

It’s not that I want Fultz; it’s that if you are dealing with PHI, he’s the only with upside enough to make it worth it even though I’m not sold there is a reasonable chance he gets there.

So PHI can offer some youngish-vets to help SA win now and then Fultz is the potential guy. But if LA traded Lonzo for something good and offered that + Ingram and some picks then sure.

[Mr. Body]

Sure it does. The Lakers have the best available package.

I'm not sure this is true, even if no one else offers anything. The value of just letting Kawhi walk might be higher than taking crappy, overrated players like Brandon Ingram. Having that cap space could be useful to go get an actually good star instead in a loaded free agent market.

[HarlemHeat37]

Where’s Green?

I'm assuming he would be included.. Spurs have too many bodies..it would either be Mills or Green, and I'd be very surprised if they traded Mills after losing Parker and Manu(most likely), too much loss of culture.

[Marcus Bryant]

Lakerfan spamming this forum like it'll do anything.

[LkrFan]

I'm not sure this is true, even if no one else offers anything. The value of just letting Kawhi walk might be higher than taking crappy, overrated players like Brandon Ingram. Having that cap space could be useful to go get an actually good star instead in a loaded free agent market.

When was the last time a true star signed with SA? LMA? :lmao

[tonight...you]

Just keep Kawhi and watch everybody squirm til it comes to it's singularity.

https://media.giphy.com/media/vGHJ1kls5UoGA/giphy.gif

[LkrFan]

It’s not that I want Fultz; it’s that if you are dealing with PHI, he’s the only with upside enough to make it worth it even though I’m not sold there is a reasonable chance he gets there.

So PHI can offer some youngish-vets to help SA win now and then Fultz is the potential guy. But if LA traded Lonzo for something good and offered that + Ingram and some picks then sure.

Fair enough. :tu

[FireMicoHalili]

I'd almost rather be a farmer at this point. And I work with Hollywood on the daily. Horrible, horrible people in "The Business".
I love how the Lakers front office went from “Hey here’s our garbage for your garbage, but you can only have THIS MUCH garbage, nothing more. No? Okay, we didn’t want your garbage anyway”. I wonder how much they paid sports writers to generate media pressure just to be spurned after a week. If they can sign him next year, it doesn’t make sense to be trading for him now.

Still laughing at Kareem’s tweet telling people to watch out for news from San Antonio. Which bit of news? Belinelli’s signing? Anderson leaving? Bertans re-upping for four more years? Looooool

[DPG21920]

I'm assuming he would be included.. Spurs have too many bodies..it would either be Mills or Green, and I'd be very surprised if they traded Mills after losing Parker and Manu(most likely), too much loss of culture.

If SA has a choice in a Kawhi trade of putting in Mills or Danny I will bet my life it’s Mills. I guarantee they would view shedding Mills as a priority and plus Danny could be traded for another asset or a pick as well

[Chillen]

I'm not sure this is true, even if no one else offers anything. The value of just letting Kawhi walk might be higher than taking crappy, overrated players like Brandon Ingram. Having that cap space could be useful to go get an actually good star instead in a loaded free agent market.

I think this is what the Spurs plan on doing, keeping Leonard and only trading him if the offer is to good to refuse. The Cavs obviously should have never traded Irving, LeBron would be gone now and they would still have Irving.

[tonight...you]

When was the last time a true star signed with SA? LMA? :lmao
And that was like generations ago!

[Mr. Body]

When was the last time a true star signed with SA? LMA? :lmao

Yeah, you got it. Congrats! It's LMA. The Lakers pitch was really bad. He decided he didn't want to retire into mediocrity like LeBron just has.

[DPG21920]

It’s also funny how random NBA Twitter guys are b*tching about being “over this Kawhi thing” and just want SA to deal him already :lol

[raybies]

When was the last time a true star signed with SA? LMA? :lmao
Remember when LA wanted to sign him but he chose us. Remembers LA’s pitch was all about lifestyle, endorsements and nothing about basketball because LA sucked and he was turned off by it. Stay Dwight

[dabom]

If SA has a choice in a Kawhi trade of putting in Mills or Danny I will bet my life it’s Mills. I guarantee they would view shedding Mills as a priority and plus Danny could be traded for another asset or a pick as well

Dead man walking. :lol

[Mr. Body]

Remember when LA wanted to sign him but he chose us. Remembers LA’s pitch was all about lifestyle, endorsements and nothing about basketball and he was turned off by it. Stay Dwight

LA's pitch to Paul George this year was completely embarrassing. The pitch to LeBron was that they'd sign such ridiculous players to go around him they'd barely make the playoffs and he could say it was their fault. He could just take it easy and make movies or whatever.

[HarlemHeat37]

If SA has a choice in a Kawhi trade of putting in Mills or Danny I will bet my life it’s Mills. I guarantee they would view shedding Mills as a priority and plus Danny could be traded for another asset or a pick as well

I don't think the front office prioritizes shedding Mills's deal as much as fans do IMO..

Pop treated him like a cornerstone, last season:lol I think they legitimately view him as an essential piece to the culture..

I hope I'm wrong, of course..

[tonight...you]

I love how the Lakers front office went from “Hey here’s our garbage for your garbage, but you can only have THIS MUCH garbage, nothing more. No? Okay, we didn’t want your garbage anyway”. I wonder how much they paid sports writers to generate media pressure just to be spurned after a week. If they can sign him next year, it doesn’t make sense to be trading for him now.

Still laughing at Kareem’s tweet telling people to watch out for news from San Antonio. Which bit of news? Belinelli’s signing? Anderson leaving? Bertans re-upping for four more years? Looooool
Hot damn right, my man.
Hot damn.

Where's Donedeal Receipts?

[Mr. Body]

I don't think the front office prioritizes shedding Mills's deal as much as fans do IMO..



This is completely crazy, but maybe posters on this board aren't as smart as they think they are.

[TheDoctor]

Gonna flip flop again, they need to ink this POS to a supermax.

I'd give the farm to him, the only thing that would be a dealbreaker would be a no-trade clause. I'd even make Becky sit on Dennis' lap courtside if that's what it took tbh...

This ˆ tbh...

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[DPG21920]

I don't think the front office prioritizes shedding Mills's deal as much as fans do IMO..

Pop treated him like a cornerstone, last season:lol I think they legitimately view him as an essential piece to the culture..

I hope I'm wrong, of course..

Pop had to :lol. TP giving up his starting role, tons of drama with Kawhi and trying to deal with it all on the fly.

But the culture is gone with no Timmy, TP and probably Manu anyways with Kawhi doing what he did. So I think they will look to be smart and rebuild quickly and losing Mills helps that out so much more.

Just by swapping Mills for Danny SA could have 30+M in cap space and I refuse to believe they value culture from Mills more than that :lol

[BatManu20]

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[Chillen]

The pitch to LeBron was that they'd sign such ridiculous players to go around him they'd barely make the playoffs and he could say it was their fault. He could just take it easy and make movies or whatever.

That roster they have right now is just barely touching the playoffs in the West (maybe 40 wins), going to be a long year for LeBron as a Laker.

[DPG21920]

Dead man walking. :lol

Haha - as soon as I typed it I immediately felt death closing in.

[tonight...you]

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Pelinka in Rape-Mode...
Not surprising.

[Mr. Body]

I love how the Lakers front office went from “Hey here’s our garbage for your garbage, but you can only have THIS MUCH garbage, nothing more. No? Okay, we didn’t want your garbage anyway”. I wonder how much they paid sports writers to generate media pressure just to be spurned after a week. If they can sign him next year, it doesn’t make sense to be trading for him now.

Still laughing at Kareem’s tweet telling people to watch out for news from San Antonio. Which bit of news? Belinelli’s signing? Anderson leaving? Bertans re-upping for four more years? Looooool

Lakers spent so much time tampering with the Kawhi camp, they thought the Spurs would just roll over and give him up for nothing. They legitimately thought they were going to get LeBron-Paul George-Kawhi. Now they look like buffoons with LeBron and crap like Lance Stephenson. They can't even get rid of Lonzo and now they're entertaining the idea of signing for Carmelo Anthony.

Amazing. That team just looks like goofy trash. Even Julius Randle was like, "I'm fucking out of here."

[DPG21920]

That roster they have right now is just barely touching the playoffs in the West (maybe 40 wins), going to be a long year for LeBron as a Laker.

Laker fans are already turning on Bron and they are in the ecstasy stage. Wait until LA wins 45 games and everyone is going “what the hell! How with all of our young superstars is this possible when with CLE he won more than that!!”

[Mugen]

Yup, I've tried to delude myself for the last month that Fultz, Ingram, etc. wouldn't be absolute ass but there's no sugarcoating it tbh.

Lock his ass up with a supermax and tell him we'll trade him as soon as Pop retires if needed.

[dabom]

Haha - as soon as I typed it I immediately felt death closing in.

My player analysis is off the charts. Green has been shit the past 3 years. Trust me, they'd pick green over MVPatty. :lol

[FireMicoHalili]

LA's pitch to Paul George this year was completely embarrassing. The pitch to LeBron was that they'd sign such ridiculous players to go around him they'd barely make the playoffs and he could say it was their fault. He could just take it easy and make movies or whatever.
They didn’t even get a chance to make a pitch to George. Imagine getting fined for tampering only to see the guy you’ve courted go to another team.

There’s merit in the long game they’re trying to play saving cap space for next season. L.A. will always be just that, a team aggressively poaching stars from other teams by selling the lifestyle and their “legacy”, whatever that’s worth now. Let’s not forget the time Kobe couldn’t even win with Nash and Howard and how he relied on big men they also poached to capitalize on the post-up era.

[dabom]

Yup, I've tried to delude myself for the last month that Fultz, Ingram, etc. wouldn't be absolute ass but there's no sugarcoating it tbh.

Lock his ass up with a supermax and tell him we'll trade him as soon as Pop retires if needed.

[Mr. Body]

Laker fans are already turning on Bron and they are in the ecstasy stage. Wait until LA wins 45 games and everyone is going “what the hell! How with all of are young superstars is this possible when with CLE he won more than that!!”

Because Lakers fans are wildly overrating their 'core.' Look on reddit or elsewhere. They think Ingram and Kuzma are legitimate. They think the team isn't trying to dump Lonzo on the down low.

[tonight...you]

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Waitasecond...
Pelinks got the giant hands over Lebron?
dizamn.

[Chillen]

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LeBron's just there to live the LA lifestyle. Lakers are Cavs West, I don't think LeBron can carry a team to the Finals every season not with Warriors, Rockets and Spurs in his way.

[HarlemHeat37]

LeBron's just there to live the LA lifestyle. Lakers are Cavs West, I don't think LeBron can carry a team to the Finals every season.

Yep..this will be his Wizards Jordan years:lol (relatively speaking)

[spurraider21]

LeBron's just there to live the LA lifestyle. Lakers are Cavs West, I don't think LeBron can carry a team to the Finals every season.
he was able to carry a team to the finals in the east only to get stomped by gsw. now he'll just get stomped by gsw in an earlier round. they're not making the finals, not even close

[baseline bum]

It won't be Fultz he's not being traded so you don't have to worry. I think it'll be Covington/Saric/Filler+Miami Pick, Sixers 2019 pick, rights to Kings 1st 2019 protected pick.

That's just Filler/Filler/Filler+picks. I'd rather just get nothing and make that mute faggot sit out the season.

[tonight...you]

That roster they have right now is just barely touching the playoffs in the West (maybe 40 wins), going to be a long year for LeBron as a Laker.
He'll be answering a ton of questions after every single game.
Every damn game as they tread water.

At some point he'll tell them "We need more help".

They're going to need more help...

[BatManu20]

LeBron's just there to live the LA lifestyle. Lakers are Cavs West, I don't think LeBron can carry a team to the Finals every season not with Warriors, Rockets and Spurs in his way.



Spurs might be booty too depending on what happens with Kawhi tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

Can somebody clarify what happens if Kawhi sits out without a medical reason? I heard that he loses eligibility for free agency or something along those lines..

What's the actual rule?

[Mr. Body]

They didn’t even get a chance to make a pitch to George. Imagine getting fined for tampering only to see the guy you’ve courted go to another team.

There’s merit in the long game they’re trying to play saving cap space for next season. L.A. will always be just that, a team aggressively poaching stars from other teams by selling the lifestyle and their “legacy”, whatever that’s worth now. Let’s not forget the time Kobe couldn’t even win with Nash and Howard and how he relied on big men they also poached to capitalize on the post-up era.

They had a pitch to George, or at least there was some 'poem' floating around that they wrote him. So humiliating.

I was stunned to see them sign McGee and Stephenson and Rondo. What the hell is this team? If you're punting to next year, you're creating a really weird team environment. I don't know what they're showing their young players, and not just because Rondo is basically a better Lonzo and stuff like that. For years this team has been adrift and now they're trying to patch it over with FA signings. That never works if you don't have a team culture.

[spurraider21]

Can somebody clarify what happens if Kawhi sits out without a medical reason? I heard that he loses eligibility for free agency or something along those lines..

What's the actual rule?
pretty sure his contract just tolls, or some equivalent. spurs would retain his rights the following season

[tonight...you]

Keep Kawhi. Go into the season.
Make people squirm.
Show whether he's ready to play, or not.

Watch the Lakers go barely above .500 and the pressure it brings.

Watch it all unfold and then things will come to the Spurs.

Everybody saying they want this to end don't know how to run shit.
Patience is key.

[DPG21920]

So the team that drafted Russell #2 just to dump him, drafted Randle #7 just to let him walk for free because they didn’t view him as all that special is really going all-in on their draft prowess and player development on Ingram/Ball/Kuz. What could go wrong there with their stellar history???

Also, there is such a risk they are running if they really want Kawhi/Bron. Imagine if Bron gets badly injured - is Kawhi or anyone going there? Sure that can happen anytime, but you pair the superstars now and risk it happening on your watch, not someone else’s. What if Kawhi gets injured and now you are relying on some other stars to come who might not even make it “truly” to free agency?

[Chillen]

he was able to carry a team to the finals in the east only to get stomped by gsw. now he'll just get stomped by gsw in an earlier round. they're not making the finals, not even close

First goal for the Lakers is to make the playoffs, if injury's creep up that might not even happen this season. LeBron will probably be to busy reading the Space Jam 2 script to care lol.

[Mr. Body]

Can somebody clarify what happens if Kawhi sits out without a medical reason? I heard that he loses eligibility for free agency or something along those lines..

What's the actual rule?

He never fulfils the last year of his contract and still owes it to the team. Not a free agent.

[tonight...you]

They had a pitch to George, or at least there was some 'poem' floating around that they wrote him. So humiliating.

I was stunned to see them sign McGee and Stephenson and Rondo. What the hell is this team? If you're punting to next year, you're creating a really weird team environment. I don't know what they're showing their young players, and not just because Rondo is basically a better Lonzo and stuff like that. For years this team has been adrift and now they're trying to patch it over with FA signings. That never works if you don't have a team culture.
And the media will be crushing them every damn game. Every single one.

[BatManu20]

Waitasecond...
Pelinks got the giant hands over Lebron?
dizamn.

Palinka's like 6'6 too. Plus his hand is closer to the camera so it appears bigger.

[HarlemHeat37]

pretty sure his contract just tolls, or some equivalent. spurs would retain his rights the following season

So there's virtually no chance that he sits again then..should give the Spurs a ton of leverage vs. his group, in regards to opening up possibilities to join other teams..

The problem will be getting those teams to actually believe in Kawhi's change of heart:lol

[Chillen]

Spurs might be booty too depending on what happens with Kawhi tbh.

Spurs basically made the playoffs without Kawhi last year, I like the chances of it happening again.

[Joseph Kony]

So there's virtually no chance that he sits again then..should give the Spurs a ton of leverage vs. his group, in regards to opening up possibilities to join other teams..

The problem will be getting those teams to actually believe in Kawhi's change of heart:lol

doubtful tbh...kawhi will just find a doctor to say he's not cleared and sit out

[spurs10]

Keep Kawhi. Go into the season.
Make people squirm.
Show whether he's ready to play, or not.

Watch the Lakers go barely above .500 and the pressure it brings.

Watch it all unfold and then things will come to the Spurs.

Everybody saying they want this to end don't know how to run shit.
Patience is key. :bobo This is very possible.

[DPG21920]

And by going all in on their “young” core I don’t mean just around Lebron. If one of them gets injured? Now their trade chances are doomed. If they don’t make a big leap and don’t progress? Their value is suppressed.

I mean, Ingram could blossom and along with the others, but that is the gamble.

[tonight...you]

Palinka's like 6'6 too. Plus his hand is closer to the camera so it appears bigger.
Let's just be honest here... The guy to the left of Lebron was nervous.
Whitey gots huge hands!

[DPG21920]

So there's virtually no chance that he sits again then..should give the Spurs a ton of leverage vs. his group, in regards to opening up possibilities to join other teams..

The problem will be getting those teams to actually believe in Kawhi's change of heart:lol

That is the issue. You have multiple people who seemingly have ties to Kawhi’s camp saying that PHI has a legit shot to keep Kawhi and they still won’t offer Fultz?

No one trusts Kawhi or his group. They thought his star power would be enough to overcome the bs moves they pulled but so far they are not.

[spurs10]

doubtful tbh...kawhi will just find a doctor to say he's not cleared and sit out He will then be unable to walk away the year after. The Spurs would retain his rights. He also no longer would be eligible for the superman. He can only walk next year if he fulfills his contract this year with the Spurs unless we trade him.

[DPG21920]

Can somebody clarify what happens if Kawhi sits out without a medical reason? I heard that he loses eligibility for free agency or something along those lines..

What's the actual rule?

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[tonight...you]

:bobo This is very possible.
If Pop is Pop and left to do his thing... This is what I see happening.
Nobody forces Pop to do things on their time.

Why not drag Kawhi into camp?
Why not force him into dealing with the Coach of Team USA?

Why not? It's not like the deals are getting worse.

I get it. There is zero rush and the pressure is on Kawhi, his psyche and his Uncle to deal with this conflagration of events.

Keep them. Deal with it.
(with the shades going down...)

[Joseph Kony]

agree w/ DPG...Lakerfan has always overrated their young players. and tbh i'm surprised they're so high on guys like Kuzma (who seriously is garbage, if he played in any other city no one would even know who he is) and Ingram who has shown little growth thus far. Laker teams are bought not built :lol

but i really hope spurs don't trade with them at all just because i personally think all of their young players minus Lonzo are complete shit, and i would never want lonzo because of his dad unfortunately

[spurraider21]

So there's virtually no chance that he sits again then..should give the Spurs a ton of leverage vs. his group, in regards to opening up possibilities to join other teams..

The problem will be getting those teams to actually believe in Kawhi's change of heart:lol
well yeah. otherwise every player in the nba basically has a no trade clause :lol

[johnnymoore]

The Spurs can either trade Kawhi to the Lakers or they can watch him sign there while SA gets nothing in 12 months.

If there was another deal to be made out there, it would have been done. Boston/Philly/whoever would want KL in tow so they could see his condition and start building around him. It's not happening. No bidding war. No agents from Bos/Phi players leaking demands or denials. Nothing.

My assumption is that the Spurs are giving KL the "Kobe 2007" treatment where the Lakers just strung him along until he dropped his trade demands, but that was a different situation. Kobe wanted a FO change and basically got the owner to come out of retirement and take back the reins. Kawhi wants PATFO to die.

Spurs need to face facts.

[Joseph Kony]

He will then be unable to walk away the year after. The Spurs would retain his rights. He also no longer would be eligible for the superman. He can only walk next year if he fulfills his contract this year with the Spurs unless we trade him.

thats my point. he'll just get a doc to say he's not healthy enough to play. it's hard to prove tbh. if he just keeps saying :cry it still hurts :cry then what are we really going to do?

[Joseph Kony]

The Spurs can either trade Kawhi to the Lakers or they can watch him sign there while SA gets nothing in 12 months.

If there was another deal to be made out there, it would have been done. Boston/Philly/whoever would want KL in tow so they could see his condition and start building around him. It's not happening. No bidding war. No agents from Bos/Phi players leaking demands or denials. Nothing.

My assumption is that the Spurs are giving KL the "Kobe 2007" treatment where the Lakers just strung him along until he dropped his trade demands, but that was a different situation. Kobe wanted a FO change and basically got the owner to come out of retirement and take back the reins. Kawhi wants PATFO to die.

Spurs need to face facts.
i would rather let him walk and sign for less then take the Lakers garbage. we dont want your shit bro

[tonight...you]

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LOL... Pop such a bully!
Me cry over things like that! Where's Donedeal Receipts?

[spursistan]

Gotta love how the idea of a "franchise player" sitting out entire seasons with a fake injury has become a normalized discourse..

Going from Tim Duncan to this piece of shit is such sick joke..:lol

[ducks]

The Spurs can either trade Kawhi to the Lakers or they can watch him sign there while SA gets nothing in 12 months.

If there was another deal to be made out there, it would have been done. Boston/Philly/whoever would want KL in tow so they could see his condition and start building around him. It's not happening. No bidding war. No agents from Bos/Phi players leaking demands or denials. Nothing.

My assumption is that the Spurs are giving KL the "Kobe 2007" treatment where the Lakers just strung him along until he dropped his trade demands, but that was a different situation. Kobe wanted a FO change and basically got the owner to come out of retirement and take back the reins. Kawhi wants PATFO to die.

Spurs need to face facts.
If Leonard wants new coach pop can go Becky better now any how

[Chillen]

Spurs have no reason to trade him until Trade deadline. So his camp is crying doing everything they can to put pressure on Spurs and make them look bad. He is still under contract for 1 more NBA season with Spurs.

You keep him see if he shows up to play and try and make things right again. Spurs have no pressure, he doesn't need to be traded until the deadline in Feb.

I think since he is still a Spurs I sense that is probably the direction the Spurs are headed, keep him on the roster and see if things improve.

If Spurs should be trying to trade a player it's Mills.

[tonight...you]

thats my point. he'll just get a doc to say he's not healthy enough to play. it's hard to prove tbh. if he just keeps saying :cry it still hurts :cry then what are we really going to do?
Nah... the Spurs can file an investigation and then things just gets worse for Denny's and his franchise.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Keep Kawhi. Go into the season.
Make people squirm.
Show whether he's ready to play, or not.

Watch the Lakers go barely above .500 and the pressure it brings.

Watch it all unfold and then things will come to the Spurs.

Everybody saying they want this to end don't know how to run shit.
Patience is key.

Agreed. Spurs own that boy; make him and his group squirm. It's just getting interesting.

[DAF86]

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That's that Pelinka guy? Everytime I spotted him on Lakers games I always thought he was Rob Lowe.

[Joseph Kony]

:lmao Lakerfans everywhere trying to act like they're cool with wasting an entire year of the tail end of Lebrons prime

[Robz4000]

The Spurs can either trade Kawhi to the Lakers or they can watch him sign there while SA gets nothing in 12 months.

If there was another deal to be made out there, it would have been done. Boston/Philly/whoever would want KL in tow so they could see his condition and start building around him. It's not happening. No bidding war. No agents from Bos/Phi players leaking demands or denials. Nothing.

My assumption is that the Spurs are giving KL the "Kobe 2007" treatment where the Lakers just strung him along until he dropped his trade demands, but that was a different situation. Kobe wanted a FO change and basically got the owner to come out of retirement and take back the reins. Kawhi wants PATFO to die.

Spurs need to face facts.

Just like Paul George you mean?

[ajh18]

The leverage that the Spurs have is the agency. The narrative has already changed. Kawhi’s group is almost universally seen as having botched this. Impact sports wants to sign more NBA players, and Kawhi is their test case. Even worst case for Spurs - Kawhi barely plays and walks at year end for nothing - is way worse for the agency than for us. You think anyone signs to an agency that created that much bad PR and cost their only client nearly $100M by screwing up the relationship with one of the most respected franchises in sports? They are done if that happens. Signing an extension now, or trading to some team that can extend with bird rights, is their only hope of maintaining any kind of functioning business in the NBA.

[FireMicoHalili]

So the team that drafted Russell #2 just to dump him, drafted Randle #7 just to let him walk for free because they didn’t view him as all that special is really going all-in on their draft prowess and player development on Ingram/Ball/Kuz. What could go wrong there with their stellar history???

Also, there is such a risk they are running if they really want Kawhi/Bron. Imagine if Bron gets badly injured - is Kawhi or anyone going there? Sure that can happen anytime, but you pair the superstars now and risk it happening on your watch, not someone else’s. What if Kawhi gets injured and now you are relying on some other stars to come who might not even make it “truly” to free agency?
What’s worse is the Lakers have had so many chances to draft impact players with high picks. They whiffed on Porzingis and Donovan Mitchell. They do relatively well at the tail-end of the draft (Kuzma, Hart, Bonga, Wagner, Newman, Zubac), but they’ve more or less fucked up their high picks. Their last chance at something great from all their years of horribleness is Brandon Ingram and it will be absolutely laughable if they gave him up for Kawhi. Going to be my hottest take but if Popovich gets Ingram that’ll be fantastic. He won’t get anywhere near Kevin Durant but a guy with a developing scoring ability and a condor’s wingspan will look great in silver and black.

[Chillen]

:lmao Lakerfans everywhere trying to act like they're cool with wasting an entire year of the tail end of Lebrons prime

I kind of like LeBron to Lakers will make for entertainment because Laker fans already hate him the ones that are die hard Kobe fanatics lol.

They will mock him forever if he does not bring the Lakers a championship and call him a failure.

LeBron is just there to live the LA lifestyle so if fans feel used it's the truth basically.

[DPG21920]

:lmao Lakerfans everywhere trying to act like they're cool with wasting an entire year of the tail end of Lebrons prime

They say that now but watch LA be a 500 team and/or LaVar go nuts when Rondo starts over Lonzo and see what happens. Kawhi is being very stupid - all he has to do is help is value out some and SA will move him.

Talk, say you will commit to just 2-3 teams so LA knows you are serious and make sure everyone knows you are healthy somehow.

Play at the Olympic camp, show videos, play in Drew League. But he can’t really do that because I think this entire ploy was because he didn’t want to risk getting injured while not having another contract :lol

Sh*T!!

[DAF86]

doubtful tbh...kawhi will just find a doctor to say he's not cleared and sit out

Then everybody will know for certain he's bitchmade. Besides it doesn't make sense for him. Losing two years of your prime doesn't seem like a good idea, also he would lose a whole lot of money.

[baseline bum]

Last season was their best shot at a ring; I think this is gonna end ugly for Houston. Melo and MCW :lol..

MCW on the Rockets? What the fuck for? So they can miss 27 threes in a row next season too?

[Keep Austin Weird]

Sup faggot. :lol


Seriously?

Is that how this message board is?

I'll find another one.

[johnnymoore]

:lmao Lakerfans everywhere trying to act like they're cool with wasting an entire year of the tail end of Lebrons prime

While the Spursfans think that they'll bring Kawhi into camp on a leash and he'll sit & roll over like a good dog? Please. If dude sat out the last half of the season because he was pissed, he's not coming back to be a good boy.

Unless of course you fire PATFO, give him the Supermax immediately and make Unc the GM.

[FireMicoHalili]

The Spurs can either trade Kawhi to the Lakers or they can watch him sign there while SA gets nothing in 12 months.

If there was another deal to be made out there, it would have been done. Boston/Philly/whoever would want KL in tow so they could see his condition and start building around him. It's not happening. No bidding war. No agents from Bos/Phi players leaking demands or denials. Nothing.

My assumption is that the Spurs are giving KL the "Kobe 2007" treatment where the Lakers just strung him along until he dropped his trade demands, but that was a different situation. Kobe wanted a FO change and basically got the owner to come out of retirement and take back the reins. Kawhi wants PATFO to die.

Spurs need to face facts.
Nice of the Lakers to want to help the Spurs by giving them something instead of leaving the Spurs nothing in 12 months. Aside from the Lakers’ patented generosity, what reason would there be to trade for Leonard if he eventually ends up there next year? Why even offer young assets if the Lakers can get him next year? Please, we’re dying to hear how benevolent the Lakers front office is.

[Robz4000]

Seriously?

Is that how this message board is?

I'll find another one.

If thats enough to scare you off its for the best.

[tonight...you]

They say that now but watch LA be a 500 team and/or LaVar go nuts when Rondo starts over Lonzo and see what happens. Kawhi is being very stupid - all he has to do is help is value out some and SA will move him.

Talk, say you will commit to just 2-3 teams so LA knows you are serious and make sure everyone knows you are healthy somehow.

Play at the Olympic camp, show videos, play in Drew League. But he can’t really do that because I think this entire ploy was because he didn’t want to risk getting injured while not having another contract :lol

Sh*T!!
I'm telling you all: Let this go into the season.
Watch the Lakers lose games the media thinks they shouldn't have lost.
Walton will be brought into question.
Lebron will be asked 8 times a day about it.

Watch what happens.

Kawhi comes in and actually plays, things change.
Kawhi comes in and holds out... Talk about cutting off someone's nose to spite their face.
I relish it.

NO TRADE!!

[dabom]

Seriously?

Is that how this message board is?

I'll find another one.

Yes faggot. You've been waiting a couple years to be called a faggot. :lol

[DAF86]

The Spurs can either trade Kawhi to the Lakers or they can watch him sign there while SA gets nothing in 12 months.

If there was another deal to be made out there, it would have been done. Boston/Philly/whoever would want KL in tow so they could see his condition and start building around him. It's not happening. No bidding war. No agents from Bos/Phi players leaking demands or denials. Nothing.

My assumption is that the Spurs are giving KL the "Kobe 2007" treatment where the Lakers just strung him along until he dropped his trade demands, but that was a different situation. Kobe wanted a FO change and basically got the owner to come out of retirement and take back the reins. Kawhi wants PATFO to die.

Spurs need to face facts.

Trying to act tough when you are actually shitting your pants of not getting what it seemed like a forgone conclusion not too long ago. :lol

I guess the reports that indicate that Kawhi now prefers Clippers to Lakers don't mean anything to you, right? What about the report that he would sign with the Sixers if he gets traded there?

Kawhi to the Lakers on free agency of next season is veeeeeery far from a sure thing. If I were you I would offer the farm to see if I can lock Kawhi now. Lots of things can happen in a year. Just ask Paul George.

[tonight...you]

Seriously?

Is that how this message board is?

I'll find another one.
That's nice love around here homie. Either you got the schmaltz, or you can play on the monkey bars with the kids.

[Leetonidas]

Seriously?

Is that how this message board is?

I'll find another one.

Lol bye pussyboi

[Leetonidas]

While the Spursfans think that they'll bring Kawhi into camp on a leash and he'll sit & roll over like a good dog? Please. If dude sat out the last half of the season because he was pissed, he's not coming back to be a good boy.

Unless of course you fire PATFO, give him the Supermax immediately and make Unc the GM.

Have you not looked around this forum? Lots of spurs fans hope the cancer is forced to sit out and lose out on an additional 40 mil

[tonight...you]

Yes faggot. You've been waiting a couple years to be called a faggot. :lol
Some peeps have been waiting for that moment for years.
Funny how some take it, even when it's what they want.

[Leetonidas]

Yes faggot. You've been waiting a couple years to be called a faggot. :lol

:lmao

[johnnymoore]

Nice of the Lakers to want to help the Spurs by giving them something instead of leaving the Spurs nothing in 12 months. Aside from the Lakers’ patented generosity, what reason would there be to trade for Leonard if he eventually ends up there next year? Why even offer young assets if the Lakers can get him next year? Please, we’re dying to hear how benevolent the Lakers front office is.

Better to get him now than a year from now - a lot of stuff can happen. Injury, insanity (see: George, Paul), baby mama drama, bad drug test, etc.

Of course, neither LeBron nor Kawhi want the Lakers to be too generous - they both like Lonzo, Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, etc., so we can only give up one of them . . .

[Robz4000]

Better to get him now than a year from now - a lot of stuff can happen. Injury, insanity (see: George, Paul), baby mama drama, bad drug test, etc.

Of course, neither LeBron nor Kawhi want the Lakers to be too generous - they both like Lonzo, Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, etc., so we can only give up one of them . . .

Kawhi doesn't even know who any of those players are tbh.

[dabom]

Kawhi doesn't even know who any of those players are tbh.

:lol

[spursistan]

Yes faggot. You've been waiting a couple years to be called a faggot. :lol
:lmao

[FireMicoHalili]

Better to get him now than a year from now - a lot of stuff can happen. Injury, insanity (see: George, Paul), baby mama drama, bad drug test, etc.

Of course, neither LeBron nor Kawhi want the Lakers to be too generous - they both like Lonzo, Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, etc., so we can only give up one of them . . .
1. No one likes Lonzo. The only way anyone trades for him is if his father stays in LA.
2. So there’s a reason to flip a deal. If the Lakers had that much faith in their young players it doesn’t make sense to deal for Leonard this year. The Spurs aren’t giving up a Finals MVP and a 2x DPOY for players who will be mediocre at best. There’s no deal now, but it doesn’t mean there isn’t one later on.
3. It’s not insane for George to stay in OKC. Only a homer would think that. The Lakers have accomplished nothing in the last five years, even with high draft picks.

Regardless, the Lakers have allegedly moved on. If and when they strike a deal, all of this is just bluffing on the Lakers end. What’s fair to both fan bases are relatively and largely different concepts, but if the Spurs’ front office doesn’t think it’s good enough then it probably isn’t. I won’t take a Laker fan’s word for it especially with the bias and that tire fire of a roster the rest of them keep defending.

[tonight...you]

Kawhi doesn't even know who any of those players are tbh.
Troof.

[spurraider21]

Yes faggot. You've been waiting a couple years to be called a faggot. :lol
:lmao

i admittedly had to adjust to the rough edges of ST when i started posting here, too. catches you off guard. but still, :lmao

[Robz4000]

Yes faggot. You've been waiting a couple years to be called a faggot. :lol

:lol

[picnroll]

What I’m not understanding is if Leonard wants to go to the Lakers why he just doesn’t tell them “Sign me now or I’m open to signing with Boston or Philly”. Force the Lakers hand. Kawhitter is going to be one happy mofo with the prospect of coming to the Spurs with the possibility of spending the year here.

... and btw Bolden has shown nothing in SL and the Turkish rifle has turned into the Turkish turkey. No thanks on either.

[tonight...you]

1. No one likes Lonzo. The only way anyone trades for him is if his father stays in LA.
2. So there’s a reason to flip a deal. If the Lakers had that much faith in their young players it doesn’t make sense to deal for Leonard this year. The Spurs aren’t giving up a Finals MVP and a 2x DPOY for players who will be mediocre at best. There’s no deal now, but it doesn’t mean there isn’t one later on.
3. It’s not insane for George to stay in OKC. Only a homer would think that. The Lakers have accomplished nothing in the last five years, even with high draft picks.

Regardless, the Lakers have allegedly moved on. If and when they strike a deal, all of this is just bluffing on the Lakers end. What’s fair to both fan bases are relatively and largely different concepts, but if the Spurs’ front office doesn’t think it’s good enough then it probably isn’t. I won’t take a Laker fan’s word for it especially with the bias and that tire fire of a roster the rest of them keep defending.
I like Pop and RC holding strong and there is zero reason to change their stance.
I've read some NBA Exec saying "They don't want this to stretch to the RS" and that's why those teams lose.
SA's FO is strong. I think...
And they should be. Force this shit to it's End. There is nothing to lose. They aren't winning the 'Ship this year.
Squeeze the juice out of these punks. Eff Kawhi and his uncle.
He wants to stay...
Game, Set, Match uncle Dennis. How was this summer for you? It was great for me!

[FireMicoHalili]

I like Pop and RC holding strong and there is zero reason to change their stance.
I've read some NBA Exec saying "They don't want this to stretch to the RS" and that's why they lose.
SA's FO is strong. I think...
And they should be. Force this shit to it's End. There is nothing to lose. They aren't winning the 'Ship this year.
Squeeze the juice out these punks. Eff Kawhi and his uncle.
He wants to stay...
Game, Set, Match uncle Dennis. How was this summer for you? It was great for me!
I would love for this to happen but Impact Sports has resources. They still probably have some tricks up their sleeve.

[tonight...you]

I would love for this to happen but Impact Sports has resources. They still probably have some tricks up their sleeve.
Cool... break them out.
Changes nothing. This old boy is under contract. Pop has a rep that spans decades.
Bring it.

[Strategic]

Yes faggot. You've been waiting a couple years to be called a faggot. :lol lol

[DAF86]

While the Spursfans think that they'll bring Kawhi into camp on a leash and he'll sit & roll over like a good dog? Please. If dude sat out the last half of the season because he was pissed, he's not coming back to be a good boy.

Unless of course you fire PATFO, give him the Supermax immediately and make Unc the GM.

If the Spurs don't trade him, it's on Kawhi's best interest to come back and behave like a good dog. He will lose a shit ton of money if he doesn't.

[DPG21920]

So most teams won’t give up good package for a super star because he wont commit and the lakers won’t give up a good package because he will commit :lol

[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

It's clear Boston or Philly are capable of making best offer, but only Philly appears possibly willing to really negotiate. Lakers seem to only want Kawhi if they can get PATFO to panic and accept crap deal. Sacto maybe a dark horse to keep an eye on. If a deal is made with TOR (hope not) would rather Spurs convince Raptors to go all in and trade for Kawhi while keeping Lowry/Derozan. I personally would rather package Kawhi/Gasol/filler or pick for JV, some combination of OG, Siakam, Richardson and picks/filler. Make picks for 2020/21/22 (which should have potential as Kawhi would have bolted for LA, Lowry hurt or moved on, and Derozan old.)

[coachmac87]

Can somebody clarify what happens if Kawhi sits out without a medical reason? I heard that he loses eligibility for free agency or something along those lines..

What's the actual rule?


He has to play at least 30 games..

If he doesn’t he can’t become a free agent unless Spurs grant it...

I’m pretty sure that’s like 75% of the rule lol

[Keep Austin Weird]

Yes faggot. You've been waiting a couple years to be called a faggot. :lol

Not sure what that means, but ok.

I signed up with this message board in hopes to find some Spurs "insiders". I create media content for sports sponsorships and one of our clients we work with is ESPN San Antonio. I get to hear some interesting things regarding the Spurs when I meet with their people. I'm meeting with some reps this Wednesday and am sure to get an update on Kawhi's status and potential suitors.

But by the sounds of it and the type of people that are on this message board, I think this may not be the place to share such information.

Anyway, Go Spurs.

[HarlemHeat37]

doubtful tbh...kawhi will just find a doctor to say he's not cleared and sit out

If that happens, it'll get even uglier, I'd expect Silver to get involved + lawsuits..

Can't see the Spurs getting involved in that type of drama, there will be a resolution before October IMO..

[tonight...you]

Not sure what that means, but ok.

I signed up with this message board in hopes to find some Spurs "insiders". I create media content for sports sponsorships and one of our clients we work with is ESPN San Antonio. I get to hear some interesting things regarding the Spurs when I meet with their people. I'm meeting with some reps this Wednesday and am sure to get an update on Kawhi's status and potential suitors.

But by the sounds of it and the type of people that are on this message board, I think this may not be the place to share such information.

Anyway, Go Spurs.
You got that right, my friend.
There are no insiders here.
Hope you stick around though. Salut!

[dabom]

Not sure what that means, but ok.

I signed up with this message board in hopes to find some Spurs "insiders". I create media content for sports sponsorships and one of our clients we work with is ESPN San Antonio. I get to hear some interesting things regarding the Spurs when I meet with their people. I'm meeting with some reps this Wednesday and am sure to get an update on Kawhi's status and potential suitors.

But by the sounds of it and the type of people that are on this message board, I think this may not be the place to share such information.

Anyway, Go Spurs.

So after all that, you still here.... Faggot. :lol

[tonight...you]

So after all that, you still here.... Faggot. :lol
lol... You are such a good neighbor!

[Joseph Kony]

Not sure what that means, but ok.

I signed up with this message board in hopes to find some Spurs "insiders". I create media content for sports sponsorships and one of our clients we work with is ESPN San Antonio. I get to hear some interesting things regarding the Spurs when I meet with their people. I'm meeting with some reps this Wednesday and am sure to get an update on Kawhi's status and potential suitors.

But by the sounds of it and the type of people that are on this message board, I think this may not be the place to share such information.

Anyway, Go Spurs.

https://i.imgur.com/rTWDmuc.gif

[coachmac87]

So most teams won’t give up good package for a super star because he wont commit and the lakers won’t give up a good package because he will commit :lol

But if Lakers don’t trade for Kawhi doesn’t it lose Kawhi 40M?

[HarlemHeat37]

Not sure what that means, but ok.

I signed up with this message board in hopes to find some Spurs "insiders". I create media content for sports sponsorships and one of our clients we work with is ESPN San Antonio. I get to hear some interesting things regarding the Spurs when I meet with their people. I'm meeting with some reps this Wednesday and am sure to get an update on Kawhi's status and potential suitors.

But by the sounds of it and the type of people that are on this message board, I think this may not be the place to share such information.

Anyway, Go Spurs.

This forum isn't for you, my guy:lol you're shocked by the content here and you don't even know about Avante yet..

I think you would like Spurs Reddit..

[tonight...you]

https://i.imgur.com/rTWDmuc.gif
I love this toxic tarpit...

[tonight...you]

But if Lakers don’t trade for Kawhi doesn’t it lose Kawhi 40M?
This is all a zero-sum game for Kawhi and his team either hasn't realized it, or they have and shut the hell up.
Either way...

Drag his ass into the season. At least for the entertainment.

[DAF86]

If that happens, it'll get even uglier, I'd expect Silver to get involved + lawsuits..

Can't see the Spurs getting involved in that type of drama, there will be a resolution before October IMO..

I doubt Kawhi schemes to lose tel years of his prime, tbh. That doesn't make any sense.

[acoelho1]

It would be insane not to demand Fultz & Daric. I think in the end, Philly will give us the package we want. They desperately need Kawhi to take that next step and contend against the Celtics.

[DPG21920]

But if Lakers don’t trade for Kawhi doesn’t it lose Kawhi 40M?

That is correct. LA is really screwing Kawhi over but he might not care since his people are pretty dumb at the moment. But it’s great for LA. They can fake like SA is asking for too much but really, they would prefer to get Kawhi in free agency because it’s so much less money.

[HarlemHeat37]

I doubt Kawhi schemes to lose tel years of his prime, tbh. That doesn't make any sense.

I agree..that's part of the reason I find it funny that Lakers fans are trying to play that card..

Getting an aging LeBron who will have another year of mileage on him while waiting for Kawhi coming off 2 years of not playing basketball:lol

[LkrFan]

That is correct. LA is really screwing Kawhi over but he might not care since his people are pretty dumb at the moment. But it’s great for LA. They can fake like SA is asking for too much but really, they would prefer to get Kawhi in free agency because it’s so much less money.

You know damn well money ain't an issue with the Lakers. -20 points for tryna mislead these farmers. :lol

Your small market owners made sure Lakers can't use their deep pockets and even invalidated the CP0 trade. But them fuckers let Boogie go to the Dubs! :lmao

[DPG21920]

You know damn well money ain't an issue with the Lakers. -20 points for tryna mislead these farmers. :lol

It is an issue. Same with PG. If you are saying the issue is “not money” that means the issue is truly thinking Ingram/Kuz/Lonzo aren’t worth Kawhi. How do you then think Kawhi feels about that? Look at how PG felt..

[coachmac87]

That is correct. LA is really screwing Kawhi over but he might not care since his people are pretty dumb at the moment. But it’s great for LA. They can fake like SA is asking for too much but really, they would prefer to get Kawhi in free agency because it’s so much less money.

If I was a media member on media day and if Kawhi was still on the Spurs....

Reporter: “So you’d rather take 4yr/140M over 5yr/221M? Over a Charlie Horse?”

[coachmac87]

You know damn well money ain't an issue with the Lakers. -20 points for tryna mislead these farmers. :lol

Your small market owners made sure Lakers can't use their deep pockets and even invalidated the CP0 trade. But them fuckers let Boogie go to the Dubs! :lmao



You don’t even understand...You must’ve had a “folder” during school.

[RGMCSE]

This forum isn't for you, my guy:lol you're shocked by the content here and you don't even know about Avante yet..

I think you would like Spurs Reddit..


Everytime I read spurs reddit I can’t help but read in a whining type voice. It’s just comes off as very soft. I always think where’s the assholery around here. Oh yeah gotta go back to spurstalk.com :lol

[LkrFan]

It is an issue. Same with PG. If you are saying the issue is “not money” that means the issue is truly thinking Ingram/Kuz/Lonzo aren’t worth Kawhi. How do you then think Kawhi feels about that? Look at how PG felt..

PG used that as a scapegoat. No way he was leaving $40+ million on the table. Hell, I wouldn't have either. :lol

As far as LA holding out, that's smart. Kiwi is disgruntled. Why give up the farm for him? Especially since I'm sure Uncle Fester probably guaranteed Magic that Kiwi is coming next year even if the Spurs PATFO trades him. :toast

[BatManu20]

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[SAGirl]

Did registration open again or what
I like it.

It was getting pretty stale here...

It's werid to see people giving opinions out of nowhere that one doesn't know, but perfectly a-ok.

I think they are fit for the forum. Unfortunately for me the majority hates Anderson. True Spurstalker fashion.

I am a rarity. :toast

[spurraider21]

This forum isn't for you, my guy:lol you're shocked by the content here and you don't even know about Avante yet..

I think you would like Spurs Reddit..
:lmao

[phxspurfan]

491 pages of bullshit and no trade

[johnnymoore]

1. No one likes Lonzo. The only way anyone trades for him is if his father stays in LA.
2. So there’s a reason to flip a deal. If the Lakers had that much faith in their young players it doesn’t make sense to deal for Leonard this year. The Spurs aren’t giving up a Finals MVP and a 2x DPOY for players who will be mediocre at best. There’s no deal now, but it doesn’t mean there isn’t one later on.
3. It’s not insane for George to stay in OKC. Only a homer would think that. The Lakers have accomplished nothing in the last five years, even with high draft picks.

Regardless, the Lakers have allegedly moved on. If and when they strike a deal, all of this is just bluffing on the Lakers end. What’s fair to both fan bases are relatively and largely different concepts, but if the Spurs’ front office doesn’t think it’s good enough then it probably isn’t. I won’t take a Laker fan’s word for it especially with the bias and that tire fire of a roster the rest of them keep defending.

Good post. The "tire fire" of a roster is still in flux, but if the Lakers stand pat . . .

1 - They will still have LeBron
2 - Next summer, they will have $50 million in capspace, with the ability to get that to almost $70 million by moving Deng as an expiring
3 - Kawhi, Klay, Jimmy Butler & several others will free agents next summer - who knows, Boogie may actually come back 100& and GSW would have to choose between him, Klay & Durant . . . someone the Lakers want will take max money to play with LeBron
4 - The "shitty, unknown" players that the Spurs fans are pooh-poohing may (gasp) actually get better! Imagine LeBron, a 21 year old Ingram, 21 year old Ball, 23 year old Kuzma and 23 year old Hart and 2 max salary slots open?

I actually like the Lakers' position going forward.

(waits for obligatory juvenile response about the Lakers "position")

[phxspurfan]

Btw I spilled a ton of rubbing alhocol all over my keyboard and mousepad. 5 minutes later theyre both dried and clean as fuck

[manufan10]

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[monkeypunk]

I say that there's trolls here, just like every board in the universe but these are especially bitter, frustrated and lashing out over the Kawhi drama. There's a ton of knowledgeable, well spoken and generally great posters here and a smidge of insider info here and there from a friend of a friend of a friend.

We welcome new posters whether you're a Spurs fan or not. And if you bring insider info, all the better.

And if you find an idiot rubbing you the wrong way, left click on their username > View Profile > Add to Ignore List. Life's much better without the bullshit.

:bobo


Not sure what that means, but ok.

I signed up with this message board in hopes to find some Spurs "insiders". I create media content for sports sponsorships and one of our clients we work with is ESPN San Antonio. I get to hear some interesting things regarding the Spurs when I meet with their people. I'm meeting with some reps this Wednesday and am sure to get an update on Kawhi's status and potential suitors.

But by the sounds of it and the type of people that are on this message board, I think this may not be the place to share such information.

Anyway, Go Spurs.

[FkLA]

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Pelinka creeps me out. He looks like he's had a shit load of plastic surgery done.

[DPG21920]

PG used that as a scapegoat. No way he was leaving $40+ million on the table. Hell, I wouldn't have either. :lol

As far as LA holding out, that's smart. Kiwi is disgruntled. Why give up the farm for him? Especially since I'm sure Uncle Fester probably guaranteed Magic that Kiwi is coming next year even if the Spurs PATFO trades him. :toast

So Kawhi is so disgruntled he’s leaving 80M on the table and is ok with LA forcing him to stay in a place he hates enough to give up 80M over trading Ingram/Kuz :lol Do you get what you are even saying :lol?

[MoSpur02]

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How credible is this report?

[Ron Swanson]

How credible is this report?

Probably as credible as us saying he's expected to withdraw.

[Fusternino]

Long time lurker, first time poster.

What is so wrong with the Clippers' assets? If we lose Kawhi I'd love to get back someone who can create their own shot (Tobias) and I think he'd love a long contract given all the uncertainty he's already faced in his career. Manu, Green, and Marco will all be going away real soon and SGA looks like he could be really good, great wingspan. Affordable rookie deal, too. Harrell would be a great defender too although he's a shooting liability. Again, great wingspan. Not sure how including him (he's a RFA) would work in a S&T for Kawhi along with the other two guys. Maybe instead he could just be in a separate wink wink S&T for just Mills and then Beverly is included along with Tobias and SGA for Kawhi.

I think this could work well-we'd run far less risk of creating a superteam and the Clippers I think would have more of a reassurance (than Philly) he will re-sign so they would give more. And by not creating a superteam if we get back say their 2021 and 2023 first round picks, then those picks will probably be a lot better.

[ECOV]

How credible is this report?

-1%

[dabom]

Long time lurker, first time poster.

What is so wrong with the Clippers' assets? If we lose Kawhi I'd love to get back someone who can create their own shot (Tobias) and I think he'd love a long contract given all the uncertainty he's already faced in his career. Manu, Green, and Marco will all be going away real soon and SGA looks like he could be really good, great wingspan. Affordable rookie deal, too. Harrell would be a great defender too although he's a shooting liability. Again, great wingspan. Not sure how including him (he's a RFA) would work in a S&T for Kawhi along with the other two guys. Maybe instead he could just be in a separate wink wink S&T for just Mills and then Beverly is included along with Tobias and SGA for Kawhi.

I think this could work well-we'd run far less risk of creating a superteam and the Clippers I think would have more of a reassurance (than Philly) he will re-sign so they would give more. And by not creating a superteam if we get back say their 2021 and 2023 first round picks, then those picks will probably be a lot better.

Sup faggot. :lol

[Leetonidas]

How credible is this report?

Well it was posted 8 hours ago and has one retweet and one like.. :lol

[rastaspur]

Seriously?

Is that how this message board is?

I'll find another one.

Dabom calls everyone a fag. That is his welcome. Dont pull a kawhi and get butthurt for no reason. Is your uncle standing over you going " no he didnt.. no he didnt disrespect u like dat.. if someone did that to me in the bank line i would give them their money in ones and change."

[Down Under]

NBA can get a 3rd party doctor to say decide if he's healthy & from there the ball in the Spurs court - he can't become a free agent until they let him if he sits out. I can't see how it does the Spurs that much damage though, even though most people are on the player's side generally, more people are realising he's tanked it & sat out while healthy in the middle of a contract to get to a bigger market for a shoedeal. He sees others making 10s of millions annually from them, while Dennis doesn't realise a big market isn't going to make him talk more or become marketable & he'll end up losing from this :lol

[RGMCSE]

Dabom calls everyone a fag. That is his welcome. Dont pull a kawhi and get butthurt for no reason. Is your uncle standing over you going " no he didnt.. no he didnt disrespect u like dat.. if someone did that to me in the bank line i would give them their money in ones and change."


How high are you right now?

[Fusternino]

Well thanks for greeting me here. I'm well aware this place is a bit of an Internet cesspool just below the likes of 4chan; but honestly, that's part of the charm and the main reason I've been reading posts on here for so long.

[ohmwrecker]

There is no reason to get bent out of shape by someone calling you a name on a message board. Just think about the kind of person who lives to wait around for the opportunity to call someone a faggot on the internet. It’s ridiculous.

[phxspurfan]

So Kawhi is so disgruntled he’s leaving 80M on the table and is ok with LA forcing him to stay in a place he hates enough to give up 80M over trading Ingram/Kuz :lol Do you get what you are even saying :lol?

Kawhgi didn't know any of this. He knew he hated Parker after Parker made those comments. He also knew he loves his family. His uncle made all the choices here, that much is clear. He's okay with the results too if it means he gets to leave SA. Actions speak louder than words and he hasn't even wanted to be in the same city as the Spurs for months now.

[dabom]

There is no reason to get bent out of shape by someone calling you a name on a message board. Just think about the kind of person who lives to wait around for the opportunity to call someone a faggot on the internet. It’s ridiculous.

Faggot. :lol

[rastaspur]

How high are you right now?

Im as high as giraffe pussy. Been hitting that wax hard tonight. Tough day in the office.

[HarlemHeat37]

Well thanks for greeting me here. I'm well aware this place is a bit of an Internet cesspool just below the likes of 4chan; but honestly, that's part of the charm and the main reason I've been reading posts on here for so long.

:tu

[dabom]

Well thanks for greeting me here. I'm well aware this place is a bit of an Internet cesspool just below the likes of 4chan; but honestly, that's part of the charm and the main reason I've been reading posts on here for so long.

Join the fam. :bobo

[rastaspur]

Well thanks for greeting me here. I'm well aware this place is a bit of an Internet cesspool just below the likes of 4chan; but honestly, that's part of the charm and the main reason I've been reading posts on here for so long.

Welcome, bro. Welcome. Consider me an ally for now. Say dumb shit and thats subject to change.

[MoSpur02]

Selena Gómez chimes in on the whole Kawhi situation sort of, but not really. She seems drunk.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/watch-actress-selena-gomez-talks-road-trips-to-watch-spurs-chimes-in-on-kawhi-leonard

[ohmwrecker]

Also, why would Kawhi sit out another year under the guise of still being injured? Teams are already questioning his health. Nobody is going to give a max deal to a player who has played nine games in 2 seasons.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I don't see a reason the Lakers should trade for him right now.

They just signed a bunch of 1-year deals to free up space for a real title run in '19-'20. LeBron clearly didn't come expecting to win it all immediately as the Warriors are still at their height. They'll grab Kawhi for the cheap when he comes free after this season.

I wouldn't give us shit either.

[Darth_Pelican]

This forum isn't for you, my guy:lol you're shocked by the content here and you don't even know about Avante yet..

I think you would like Spurs Reddit..

:lol

[RGMCSE]

Im as high as giraffe pussy. Been hitting that wax hard tonight. Tough day in the office.

:lol I had some delicious oil in Denver a while back. Can’t find none of that down here. :depressed

[Mr. Body]

PG used that as a scapegoat. No way he was leaving $40+ million on the table. Hell, I wouldn't have either. :lol

As far as LA holding out, that's smart. Kiwi is disgruntled. Why give up the farm for him? Especially since I'm sure Uncle Fester probably guaranteed Magic that Kiwi is coming next year even if the Spurs PATFO trades him. :toast

This is hilarious. You just said the reason why Paul George told the Lakers to get fucked, then recommend the Lakers do the same thing to Kawhi.

[rastaspur]

:lol I had some delicious oil in Denver a while back. Can’t find none of that down here. :depressed

Get a rosin press and make your own. Tough to find in the southeast sometimes. I bought one and i dont regret the purchase at all.

[ECOV]

Im as high as giraffe pussy. Been hitting that wax hard tonight. Tough day in the office.

Share some of that wax !

[ohmwrecker]

Faggot. :lol

I had some real insider info to share with you, but now you can forget that, bud.

[RGMCSE]

Get a rosin press and make your own. Tough to find in the southeast sometimes. I bought one and i dont regret the purchase at all.

Wow thanks for the info. :toast I didn’t even know that existed. Gonna see if amazon got any.

[RD2191]

Long time lurker, first time poster.

What is so wrong with the Clippers' assets? If we lose Kawhi I'd love to get back someone who can create their own shot (Tobias) and I think he'd love a long contract given all the uncertainty he's already faced in his career. Manu, Green, and Marco will all be going away real soon and SGA looks like he could be really good, great wingspan. Affordable rookie deal, too. Harrell would be a great defender too although he's a shooting liability. Again, great wingspan. Not sure how including him (he's a RFA) would work in a S&T for Kawhi along with the other two guys. Maybe instead he could just be in a separate wink wink S&T for just Mills and then Beverly is included along with Tobias and SGA for Kawhi.

I think this could work well-we'd run far less risk of creating a superteam and the Clippers I think would have more of a reassurance (than Philly) he will re-sign so they would give more. And by not creating a superteam if we get back say their 2021 and 2023 first round picks, then those picks will probably be a lot better.

You should stop posting tbh fwiw imo

[baseline bum]

:lol I'm not gonna argue with a Sixers fan that's probably one of apa the murse's alts.


:lol


This is like if Spurfan said "man we can't give up Dejounte, i don't care how good Anthony Davis is...."

:lmao

[tim_duncan_fan]

I had some real insider info to share with you, but now you can forget that, bud.

What if that new poster is secretly Kawhi and dabom just offended him again?

[dabom]

I had some real insider info to share with you, but now you can forget that, bud.

Fuck...

[LkrFan]

So Kawhi is so disgruntled he’s leaving 80M on the table and is ok with LA forcing him to stay in a place he hates enough to give up 80M over trading Ingram/Kuz :lol Do you get what you are even saying :lol?

LBJ left $50 million on the table to play with Lonzo. What's so far fetched with Kiwi leaving money on the table too? D12 did it to the Lakers. I'm just saying...

Anywho, I thought this was interesting:

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Either Pelinka is flat out lying or you farmers are full of shit. :lol

[dabom]

What if that new poster is secretly Kawhi and dabom just offended him again?

Do you wanna know Kawhi's real ST handle?

[Ron Swanson]

What if that new poster is secretly Kawhi and dabom just offended him again?

https://media2.giphy.com/media/XABTVorVODddu/giphy.gif