Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[FkLA]

I don't even want this faggot anymore, tbh.

Fuck working things out and getting through to him. If you sign him to a supermax (wthout a no-trade clause), ship him to some shithole franchise ASAP.

[YGWHI]

But I can understand Fakers fans meltdown, they were already jizzing all over themselves and were ordering PG13 and Kawhi jerseys and all they got is LeRetreat and Javalance.

:lol

Like we didn't make many threads on ST hoping LeBron to sign with the Spurs. Now, he's just LeRetreat?

I HATE the Lakers too but you shouldn't talk about fans' meltdowns..

[Dverde]

LeBron will play point if he has to, but has indicated he wants to play off-ball. If they get Leonard they’ll probably slot Ingram at the two (or Leonard) and trot out Rondo-Ingram-Leonard-James-McGee/some ring-chasing vet like Monroe. Scary on paper and the length is formidable.

Ingram is 6-9, I can’t see him guarding SGs full time. Kawhi would be better, but that was before his injury history. They can trot whoever they want out there. I think having 3 SF playing the most minutes on the team is foolhardy.

[hater]

:lmao even if Mute Cancer goes to Lakers and is 100% healthy there is no way they dont get obliterated by Worriers :lol

I think everyone in the league knows 2018-19 is a forgone season and also 19-20. Ewveryone should be reloqding for 2020-2021

[johnnymoore]

So the point is the Lakers should just keep the pieces of their trade package.

There is a strong sentiment for that position in Lakerland, especially given the fact that Kawhi hasn't played in a while.


I don’t know why anyone has to get riled up with the Spurs not trading Leonard to the Lakers if the Lakers get to keep decent players.

I haven't seen anyone (on the Lakers side) getting riled up about about the Spurs not trading KL to the Lakers. I've been giving you guys the needle about the absurdity of some of the Spursfans' positions - "don't trade KL for anything less than Steph, Klay and 3 lottery picks! He's a deaf, mute, faggot retard with Asperger's, but he's the best player in the History of the NBA!" - but trust me, no one is rushing to give up the farm for him. If the situation is such that the Spurs will accept a reasonable return, then sure, why not get him earlier and give him more $$$. However, waiting until next summer works for a lot of us.


Let’s not forget the fact the Lakers are a big market team that has failed to put something together despite its spending capacity and its corresponding lifestyle, arguably points of attraction to free agents. To whom much is given, much is expected. The Spurs might turn out to be this season’s punch line, but the rest of the league has been laughing at the Lakers and the Knicks for years now.

It's been 8 years since the Lakers have won a championship, true, but let's remember that it was the small market owners (Gilbert & company) plus Cuban who whined and cajoled the Commissioner to (in an unprecedented move) void a trade for Chris Paul in 2011. The Lakers said at the time that Stern was setting the franchise back ten years - and it did. Well, it's a couple of years early, but time's up.

As for "hating" the Spurs - nah. We kinda like Pop. He's the 2nd greatest HC of all time (demerits for stabbing Bob Hill in the back) behind Phil Jackson and, except for "Cuckold Brent" Barry and Bruce Bowen, you've had a pretty likable group of players.

[YGWHI]

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I doubt teams get better info about his health since no one gains Spurs' permission to speak with Leonard's representatives.


I’ve been telling people that Kawhi needs to post a video...it’s the most obvious thing in the world.
It's hard to trust an article that says GMs just want to see Kawhi's workouts in a video... like videos are a proof of something. Trust me, I've manipulated my videos in such a way that I play like MJ in all them. :D

[FireMicoHalili]

There is a strong sentiment for that position in Lakerland, especially given the fact that Kawhi hasn't played in a while.



I haven't seen anyone (on the Lakers side) getting riled up about about the Spurs not trading KL to the Lakers. I've been giving you guys the needle about the absurdity of some of the Spursfans' positions - "don't trade KL for anything less than Steph, Klay and 3 lottery picks! He's a deaf, mute, faggot retard with Asperger's, but he's the best player in the History of the NBA!" - but trust me, no one is rushing to give up the farm for him. If the situation is such that the Spurs will accept a reasonable return, then sure, why not get him earlier and give him more $$$. However, waiting until next summer works for a lot of us.



It's been 8 years since the Lakers have won a championship, true, but let's remember that it was the small market owners (Gilbert & company) plus Cuban who whined and cajoled the Commissioner to (in an unprecedented move) void a trade for Chris Paul in 2011. The Lakers said at the time that Stern was setting the franchise back ten years - and it did. Well, it's a couple of years early, but time's up.

As for "hating" the Spurs - nah. We kinda like Pop. He's the 2nd greatest HC of all time (demerits for stabbing Bob Hill in the back) behind Phil Jackson and, except for "Cuckold Brent" Barry and Bruce Bowen, you've had a pretty likable group of players.
I understand why no one wants to give up a lot for him and it makes a ton of sense to just keep things as is for the Lakers. There are other deals out there, but Kuzma, Hart, Deng and a pick won’t cut it. As to other posters who demand the world for him just let them set up themselves for disappointment. I’m sure there’s a middle ground and though I would love for the Spurs to get Ingram the Lakers are better off letting the core develop with nudging from LeBron. He did some fantastic things with Hood, Nance, and Clarkson and this is a smarter, if not better, squad he’s working with. Third to eighth seed in a fun western conference should inject a lot of positivity into your fan base.

Get used to this cesspool fam, you’re the one who dove right into it. All things considered, great points made.

[cd98]

Won't they be able to see Kawhi play at the mini camp for Team USA? It's in two weeks.

[FireMicoHalili]

https://www.twitter.com/fredm1913/status/1016498598102618112 (https://mobile.twitter.com/fredm1913/status/1016498598102618112)

sports media nobodies are just hurling poop hoping something sticks :lol

[Spurs9]

https://www.twitter.com/fredm1913/status/1016498598102618112 (https://mobile.twitter.com/fredm1913/status/1016498598102618112)

sports media nobodies are just hurling poop hoping something sticks :lol

His source is probably Pinoy Marauder

[coachmac87]

Won't they be able to see Kawhi play at the mini camp for Team USA? It's in two weeks.

Doubt he shows up..

[YGWHI]

Won't they be able to see Kawhi play at the mini camp for Team USA? It's in two weeks.
Kawhi didn't work with them since 2015, he has declined last two invitations to join Team USA. I guess he likes to work in SD with his trainer in the summer.

[Russ]

Kawhi didn't work with them since 2015, he has declined last two invitations to join Team USA. I guess he likes to work in SD with his trainer in the summer.

KL is the last type of player to play for Team USA. Never has, never will.

[spurschamps99030507]

It doesn't make sense to accept the garbage of the fakers and it doesn't make sense the shit of the sixers
you cant trade a top 3 in the league because you have to analyze the roster you have

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if you trade to the rat you only have one player all star LMA and you bring more role players?


its ridiculous, does not the roster make any sense when you sign forbes, belinelli, gay, bertans, maybe ginobili when you trade the sixers of a top 3 in the league for 2 role players?


It's absurd, it does not make sense this summer's plan to sign role players to accept an offer of shit for more role players (saric covington)


you have to force the rat and his group to show up in the training camp


look at the disaster that the cavs did with irving, they accepted mediocre players and look at them now

[BatManu20]

Ingram is 6-9, I can’t see him guarding SGs full time. Kawhi would be better, but that was before his injury history. They can trot whoever they want out there. I think having 3 SF playing the most minutes on the team is foolhardy.


Ingram is 6'11.

[Killakobe81]

The Spurs have annually gone through a roster of G-Leaguers in hopes of trying to find value. The fan base has had to “endure” guys like Mensah-Bonsu, Chris Quinn, Melvin Saunders, so on and so forth. The fan base has hated the penny-pinching, but it’s all part of the charm. I see the Lakers have had some success with late draft picks which is a good sign, since another year of futility would have meant the Lakers brass has learned nothing these past few years.

I agree, it will all be amusing to see the dynasty (or whatever remains of it) come crashing down. Most of the fans here may have been spoiled with championships and constant playoff appearances that it’s imminent the Spurs are due for a downfall. The NBA hoi polloi - perhaps, save the Spurs themselves - have long anticipated and awaited the fall of San Antonio. Everyone thought they were done in 2005, then in 2007, then 2014. I understand it’s tedious to hate the Spurs year after year, more so they made the Lakers look bad in 2013 given the talented core the Lakers had. Long overdue serving of humble pie, and it will be good not only for the fan base but for the front office as well, to serve as a lesson in adjustment. Good things never last, only that the Lakers’ run of dominance ended much sooner.

It must be difficult living in irrelevance even with all that money, those high draft picks, and the wasted free agent pitches that have worked, for the most part, in the early 00’s. The Lakers snagged LeBron, one of the greatest players in this era, plus a mixed bag of acquisitions which may or may not pan out, but the total result will be better than any other result the Lakers have had in the past years. You probably have personal reasons for hating the Spurs, but the fact remains: Leonard isn’t a Laker yet. One week of all that frenzy and wasted emotional investment just to have no star with which to pair LeBron. Impatient lot, as your kind has always been. The schadenfreude is forthcoming and the Spurs might actually lose a lot in terms of value, but there are fans who will roll with the team with or without Leonard. In the first place, the front office didn’t give up a lot for this guy. Whatever comes out of a Leonard trade will be a return of investment on freaking George Hill. Save for Jean-Charles the Spurs have managed to eke out value in tight situations. This team will be fine, and if it doesn’t, there wasn’t much to work with in the first place anyway. Not a lot of fans experience a run of dominance this long, see marquee players who take a pay cut flourish and retire, and a scouting program that manages to find value at the dregs of the draft.

Equally as comical by the way: why are the Lakers so high on their younger players but keep insisting on a trade for Leonard? I thought there was a lot of trust in Ingram and/or Kuzma or whoever the hell your lot keeps throwing in for Kawhi? If they’re so good maybe the Lakers should just keep them and move on toward the season with that core. Everyone wins.

Despite a few shots at Laker nation this is a mostly fair, nuanced and strong post.
I agree we should keep our young core.
Ingram I am absolutely sure that if we are patient, will develop in to what we need as #2. I am not sure he can ever be a #1 like KL but that is the beauty of getting LeBron and not a #2 like PG13 and paying him like a true superstar. We don't need a #1 we have the best #1 already.
But this requires patience from LeBron, Maginka and smart fans to allow him to develop. The less validation we have that KL is 100% the less I want us to push in all the chips. Ingram
+ Kuzma is a non-starter for me. And I pretty much now almost feel Ingram is untouchable. Still would consider Kuzma/Hart and a first. But the more I see of how much Hart/Kuzma is working to improve not sure I would do that either.

I get that as a Spur fan yall undervalue our prospects, hate Lakers and don't want to acquiesce to KL's camp. So yall seem like you would take less from Sixes to avoid trading him to us. Silly to me but I understand.

What I don't get is the keep him and let him walk stance. I do agree yall should try and determine if relationship is salvageable and If you think he is 100% pay him the supermax.

But you can not and should not let him walk for nothing... That is the dumbest take. Even getting another expiring contract(s) that you might want to see if they work with the Spurs system is smarter than letting him walk for NADA. Picks and expirings are better than just cap space if he walks next year.
The reason I even still care because outside of LeBron this is the only other move that matters. CP3, PG13, Boogie, even drafting Ayton, Bagley none of that really matters as much as KL.
I am hoping yall don't trade him to Philly (dont dislike Sixes but if Embiid stays healthy which again I have my doubts like with Porzingis) and form a super team but hate yall trading him to Celts even more. Send him anywhere else or resign him and hope time heals all the negative vibes and his quad. But I think honestly that will be tough.

[Killakobe81]

Sometimes you gotta show compassion for your foes. Seeing that Johnny Moore kid get humiliated like that is kinda painful.

And you can see the way Fakers fans all are coming out of their long time shame hole this summer how they're envious and admirative of the Spurs. What kind of frustrated fan is obsessed like that by another team ? :lol "

But I can understand Fakers fans meltdown, they were already jizzing all over themselves and were ordering PG13 and Kawhi jerseys and all they got is LeRetreat and Javalance. They were preparing the parade and might end up not even make the PO in a loaded West :lol

"Kawhi has all the power mawahah, you fools ! He can waste another year of his prime after saying he was 100% and GMs already wary about his current situation then finish to kill his rep and sign with my Fakers for nothing, hehe !!"

That clown might have been banned even from Fakers forums with terrible takes like that.

Won't make playoffs?! PLEASE, Stop. Beat Warriors is laughable... Not making playoffs equally laughable.

[BatManu20]

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[YGWHI]

KL is the last type of player to play for Team USA. Never has, never will.
Agree. He never showed any interest in being part of the team.

[baseline bum]

But you can not and should not let him walk for nothing... That is the dumbest take. Even getting another expiring contract(s) that you might want to see if they work with the Spurs system is smarter than letting him walk for NADA. Picks and expirings are better than just cap space if he walks next year.


Weren't you the one agreeing with me that they had to insist on Tatum in a Boston deal? So why would they take crap from other teams besides Boston? The point of holding him is the Spurs wouldn't be alone eating the shit sandwich, Kawhi would have to take a few bites too. I'm all for getting nothing and sitting him vs taking back crap and giving Leonard what he wants.

[Killakobe81]

There is a strong sentiment for that position in Lakerland, especially given the fact that Kawhi hasn't played in a while.



I haven't seen anyone (on the Lakers side) getting riled up about about the Spurs not trading KL to the Lakers. I've been giving you guys the needle about the absurdity of some of the Spursfans' positions - "don't trade KL for anything less than Steph, Klay and 3 lottery picks! He's a deaf, mute, faggot retard with Asperger's, but he's the best player in the History of the NBA!" - but trust me, no one is rushing to give up the farm for him. If the situation is such that the Spurs will accept a reasonable return, then sure, why not get him earlier and give him more $$$. However, waiting until next summer works for a lot of us.



It's been 8 years since the Lakers have won a championship, true, but let's remember that it was the small market owners (Gilbert & company) plus Cuban who whined and cajoled the Commissioner to (in an unprecedented move) void a trade for Chris Paul in 2011. The Lakers said at the time that Stern was setting the franchise back ten years - and it did. Well, it's a couple of years early, but time's up.

As for "hating" the Spurs - nah. We kinda like Pop. He's the 2nd greatest HC of all time (demerits for stabbing Bob Hill in the back) behind Phil Jackson and, except for "Cuckold Brent" Barry and Bruce Bowen, you've had a pretty likable group of players.

That is the strange part. If you never go to ST or never visit SA you would have no clue on the hatred they harbor for us. I never hated the Spurs or Pop. Bowen, Barry and Sean Elliott (announcer not player) absolutely. But Duncan, Manu, Pop, David and to a lessor degree Tony (and KL) no reason to hate those guys. Great classy players their fan base though has some good posters but a lot of bitter and insecure folks that you sometimes can't tell they have been the best franchise of the past 21 years the way they rip Pop/Tony/Manu on here...

[cutewizard]

Damn. Done. Deal. :lol

Baka gumawa na ng bagong account yan. Start over.

Pinoy rin ba sya tulad natin?

[Strategic]

Not sure why the lakers didn’t trade up to draft George Hill in 2008 so the could trade him for KL’s rights in the 2011 draft. Now they think the Spurs are idiots.

[spurschamps99030507]

The more conflicting information I hear from people one or two steps away about what Leonard does/doesn’t want, the more I think some team — maybe one of these three — should be more aggressive gambling on a rental and selling Leonard on its culture. The Sixers haven’t offered Markelle Fultz, sources say, and it’s unclear if the Spurs want him. We know what Boston has. (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24057463/zach-lowe-winners-losers-2018-nba-free-agency) I pitched (among others) a Toronto swap centered on DeMar DeRozan last week

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24057463/zach-lowe-winners-losers-2018-nba-free-agency

[Killakobe81]

Weren't you the one agreeing with me that they had to insist on Tatum in a Boston deal? So why would they take crap from other teams besides Boston? The point of holding him is the Spurs wouldn't be alone eating the shit sandwich, Kawhi would have to take a few bites too. I'm all for getting nothing and sitting him vs taking back crap and giving Leonard what he wants.

I agree on insisting on Tatum but never agreed on letting him walk. A deal that could work is even Porzingis, Knox expirings and picks. If he is healthy. You get a chance to sign KP I don't like him longterm cuz I don't trust his health but if healthy you could resign him. Knox is not Tatum but you take their best young prospect and a unprotected first and a future protected.

Doubtful Knicks give up that much but a similar deal is better than NADA. A player, their best young prospect and a pick should be starting point. Not every best young prospect will be as good as Tatum.

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Pinoy rin ba sya tulad natin?

Yep

[Killakobe81]

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Is that a credible source?
If true should teams be lining up to trade for him?
I know the Autism and Asperger's are mean shots at KL... But maybe dude has real mental issues and you guys are poking fun?
All bullshit aside maybe the pressure of Lakers or the supermax in SA isn't the best thing for him...

[baseline bum]

I agree on insisting on Tatum but never agreed on letting him walk. A deal that could work is even Porzingis, Knox expirings and picks. If he is healthy. You get a chance to sign KP I don't like him longterm cuz I don't trust his health but if healthy you could resign him. Knox is not Tatum but you take their best young prospect and a unprotected first and a future protected.

Doubtful Knicks give up that much but a similar deal is better than NADA. A player, their best young prospect and a pick should be starting point. Not every best young prospect will be as good as Tatum.

So insist on a Tatum like return but then trade Leonard anyways when one doesn't get offered? That makes no sense.

[r-nice]

Is that a credible source?
If true should teams be lining up to trade for him?
I know the Autism and Asperger's are mean shots at KL... But maybe dude has real mental issues and you guys are poking fun?
All bullshit aside maybe the pressure of Lakers or the supermax in SA isn't the best thing for him...

Skip Bayless has been saying that since all this started. That he couldn't take the pressure of being the leading MVP candidate and leading a team. I thought it was nonsense at the time but now I'm starting to come around.

[Fusternino]

It doesn't make sense to accept the garbage of the fakers and it doesn't make sense the shit of the sixers
you cant trade a top 3 in the league because you have to analyze the roster you have

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhwynkwVMAA9TUa.jpg


if you trade to the rat you only have one player all star LMA and you bring more role players?


its ridiculous, does not the roster make any sense when you sign forbes, belinelli, gay, bertans, maybe ginobili when you trade the sixers of a top 3 in the league for 2 role players?


It's absurd, it does not make sense this summer's plan to sign role players to accept an offer of shit for more role players (saric covington)


you have to force the rat and his group to show up in the training camp


look at the disaster that the cavs did with irving, they accepted mediocre players and look at them now

This is why I think we need to deal with the Clippers to get back a fringe All-Star in Tobias Harris, a defensive forward to deal with our guard heavy line-up (Harrell), and swap Mills for a not undersized SG in Robinson. If we get 2 picks (say their own 2021 and 2023 first round picks) from them then they should have more value because the Clippers would not be as good with Kawhi than the Lakers or 76ers would be.

Still not happy about keeping Forbes over Anderson, but whatever.

[RD2191]

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Not that I doubt the report but what logical reason could Kawhi have for doing that?

[BatManu20]

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[YGWHI]

Is that a credible source?
If true should teams be lining up to trade for him?
I know the Autism and Asperger's are mean shots at KL... But maybe dude has real mental issues and you guys are poking fun?
All bullshit aside maybe the pressure of Lakers or the supermax in SA isn't the best thing for him...

Who knows.

Wright was the guy who wrote an article with Woj talking about a "tense" players meeting and "According to ESPN, players implored All-Star forward to return to play.."

Then Danny, Rudy and Brandon denied it and made fun of the article saying it wasn't anything like that...

Spurs leak to Woj and Wright, Kawhi's camp to Young and Shams...I guess you have to make your own version between these two sides.

[RD2191]

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Lmao. Weak ass guard starting shit then getting dropped.

[cd98]

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PacMan was about to curb stomp that guy. He's lucky to make it out before the beating happened.

[YGWHI]

Skip Bayless has been saying that since all this started. That he couldn't take the pressure of being the MVP candidate and leading a team. I thought it was nonsense at the time but now I'm starting to come around.

I would say he did it very well in 2017...That was never an issue.

[Killakobe81]

So insist on a Tatum like return but then trade Leonard anyways when one doesn't get offered? That makes no sense.

You misunderstood. I was speaking in terms of deals in general. NFL football, NBA, MLB it doesn't matter. If I have a legit star (healthy) and but he is expiring I can't expect the world without him agreeing to extension or to opt in an additional year hence why you can't ask for Simmons or Embiid from Philly.
But you can insist on asking for Ingram, Tatum Fultz makes sense since all 3 have upside and the best young prospect on those teams.
The reason I used Knox was not because he dropped 29 in a random SL game and is now equal to Tatum... but if you would consider a KP/KL swap (especially since all I hear is we still should have drafted him over Russell) you Have to also get their best young prospect and a first.
That is what I was arguing. When Lowe said starting price was Tatum and Sacto pick and Celtics balked doesn't mean yall should get nothing back.

Baseline you have a Sherman's March mentality right now but not sure that is wise. Remember after the Civil War the South still needed to be reconstructed.

[kjhip1]

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Airport worker had it coming to him. Talks sh*t then gets dropped, smh

[RD2191]

Dude ain't even a security guard, he's a fukin janitor. Talk about taking multiple L's. :lol

[Killakobe81]

Airport worker had it coming to him. Talks sh*t then gets dropped, smh

No clean punches but man Adsm gotta be smarter. Met him once dude is small but but built solid very compact. Crazy.

[YGWHI]

Not that I doubt the report but what logical reason could Kawhi have for doing that?

Last week Wright was saying that the meeting was players' idea not Pop's...He also said that Parker's comments were positive but people "misunderstood" them

This is his way to explain why the players wanted the meeting...I'm not that naive to believe "on a Pop's team" players can ask for a meeting without talking with him.

[kjhip1]

No clean punches but man Adsm gotta be smarter. Met him once dude is small but but built solid very compact. Crazy.

Sucks because you know Goodell will throw the book at him

[apalisoc_9]

Dude ain't even a security guard, he's a fukin janitor. Talk about taking multiple L's. :lol

Ouch.

:lol

[JPB]

That is the strange part. If you never go to ST or never visit SA you would have no clue on the hatred they harbor for us. I never hated the Spurs or Pop. Bowen, Barry and Sean Elliott (announcer not player) absolutely. But Duncan, Manu, Pop, David and to a lessor degree Tony (and KL) no reason to hate those guys. Great classy players their fan base though has some good posters but a lot of bitter and insecure folks that you sometimes can't tell they have been the best franchise of the past 21 years the way they rip Pop/Tony/Manu on here...


:pop: It's just basketball anyway. Enough hate and drama in this world to bring it to a kid ball game and to take all this too seriously.

I'm following the Spurs precisely because I can respect guys like Tim, Manu or Pop's mentality and could hang out with them. And this is what makes this Kawhard shit show really regrettable.

Dude brought drama, hate, suspicion, and disrespect to a franchise people are liking for its identity, by lying, ignoring and not caring one bit about guys (and then by transitivity to all spurs followers) everybody in the league, including you, as you stated, respect.

But again, too many things to love on this planet to give any time to hate.

[Killakobe81]

Who knows.

Wright was the guy who wrote an article with Woj talking about a "tense" players meeting and "According to ESPN, players implored All-Star forward to return to play.."

Then Danny, Rudy and Brandon denied it and made fun of the article saying it wasn't anything like that...

Spurs leak to Woj and Wright, Kawhi's camp to Young and Shams...I guess you have to make your own version between these two sides.

Objectively if a deal can be worked out for him to stay that would be ideal. Spurs invested in him probably would be the most patient with his injury etc.
But the part Michelle Beadle got right by NOT speaking at all he has made his return so uncomfortable.
I'm sure if he signs and drops 40 on Rox opening night and locks up Harden most will be forgiven.
Just a strange saga.

[Killakobe81]

Sucks because you know Goodell will throw the book at him

Is he currently signed?

[BatManu20]

That 2021 Miami Pick that Philly owns is suddenly looking much better tbh.


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[YGWHI]

Objectively if a deal can be worked out for him to stay that would be ideal. Spurs invested in him probably would be the most patient with his injury etc.
But the part Michelle Beadle got right by NOT speaking at all he has made his return so uncomfortable.
I'm sure if he signs and drops 40 on Rox opening night and locks up Harden most will be forgiven.
Just a strange saga.

The only way to fix everything was a supermax deal and the Spurs weren't willing to offer it for multiple reasons.

Like I've said before, the Spurs will trade Kawhi, it's just a matter of time.

[baseline bum]

You misunderstood. I was speaking in terms of deals in general. NFL football, NBA, MLB it doesn't matter. If I have a legit star (healthy) and but he is expiring I can't expect the world without him agreeing to extension or to opt in an additional year hence why you can't ask for Simmons or Embiid from Philly.
But you can insist on asking for Ingram, Tatum Fultz makes sense since all 3 have upside and the best young prospect on those teams.
The reason I used Knox was not because he dropped 29 in a random SL game and is now equal to Tatum... but if you would consider a KP/KL swap (especially since all I hear is we still should have drafted him over Russell) you Have to also get their best young prospect and a first.
That is what I was arguing. When Lowe said starting price was Tatum and Sacto pick and Celtics balked doesn't mean yall should get nothing back.

Baseline you have a Sherman's March mentality right now but not sure that is wise. Remember after the Civil War the South still needed to be reconstructed.

No one is expecting the world. Equal value would be getting Simmons from Philly, Davis from New Orleans, something like that. No one is expecting anything close to equal value. I'm saying I don't see the point in taking a grab bag of a lot of limited players who won't be anything to build around. I just want one prospect who has a chance of being somebody. If I'm the Spurs GM and I don't get that then who cares if Leonard walks for nothing? Either way the Spurs are in the same situation, lottery bound with no one to build around. Ingram, Saric, same thing, limited player who could be a nice #3 in the best case.

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Weren't you the one agreeing with me that they had to insist on Tatum in a Boston deal? So why would they take crap from other teams besides Boston? The point of holding him is the Spurs wouldn't be alone eating the shit sandwich, Kawhi would have to take a few bites too. I'm all for getting nothing and sitting him vs taking back crap and giving Leonard what he wants.

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So insist on a Tatum like return but then trade Leonard anyways when one doesn't get offered? That makes no sense.

[FireMicoHalili]

Despite a few shots at Laker nation this is a mostly fair, nuanced and strong post.
I agree we should keep our young core.
Ingram I am absolutely sure that if we are patient, will develop in to what we need as #2. I am not sure he can ever be a #1 like KL but that is the beauty of getting LeBron and not a #2 like PG13 and paying him like a true superstar. We don't need a #1 we have the best #1 already.
But this requires patience from LeBron, Maginka and smart fans to allow him to develop. The less validation we have that KL is 100% the less I want us to push in all the chips. Ingram
+ Kuzma is a non-starter for me. And I pretty much now almost feel Ingram is untouchable. Still would consider Kuzma/Hart and a first. But the more I see of how much Hart/Kuzma is working to improve not sure I would do that either.

I get that as a Spur fan yall undervalue our prospects, hate Lakers and don't want to acquiesce to KL's camp. So yall seem like you would take less from Sixes to avoid trading him to us. Silly to me but I understand.

What I don't get is the keep him and let him walk stance. I do agree yall should try and determine if relationship is salvageable and If you think he is 100% pay him the supermax.

But you can not and should not let him walk for nothing... That is the dumbest take. Even getting another expiring contract(s) that you might want to see if they work with the Spurs system is smarter than letting him walk for NADA. Picks and expirings are better than just cap space if he walks next year.
The reason I even still care because outside of LeBron this is the only other move that matters. CP3, PG13, Boogie, even drafting Ayton, Bagley none of that really matters as much as KL.
I am hoping yall don't trade him to Philly (dont dislike Sixes but if Embiid stays healthy which again I have my doubts like with Porzingis) and form a super team but hate yall trading him to Celts even more. Send him anywhere else or resign him and hope time heals all the negative vibes and his quad. But I think honestly that will be tough.
Can’t speak for the rest of the fan base but a trade is imminent not because I want one but the discord runs deep and it’s going to take a miracle of 0.4 proportions to fix the situation. I agree, it’s stupid to let him go for nothing and have this drag on to the season where he’ll have to play a minimum number of games and feign injury. Going to be so messy if they have to have this mediated/arbitrated and legal fees are probably going to be expensive. What I do agree with is the Spurs don’t have to rush and give in to the manufactured pressure in which they’re surrounded. The thing with offers is they get pulled off the table and you won’t get one you were previously offered; run out the clock and the Spurs might just get Deng and fillers without picks. It’s way too early for the Spurs to give in to the pressure of making a deal for purposes of getting any kind of value back and just because they haven’t struck a deal with potential trade partners doesn’t mean the front office isn’t working to get one done. It’s a safe assumption PATFO are doing their due diligence given a trade monumentally changes the course of the team’s future. All teams are playing hardball because no one wants to be like Memphis who despite getting great value in Marc (weird how he slipped to 48) didn’t get much of a return for Pau, while simultaneously handing over the championship.

Both teams should just maintain the status quo at the moment. Keep the young core while the Spurs figure out all the possible trade scenarios. The Lakers are flush with cash next year and they don’t need any more players with toxic filial influences. If Leonard can do this to San Antonio it should serve as a warning as to the trouble any team would probably be dealing with a few years down the road with him and his uncle.

[kjhip1]

Is he currently signed?

No, free agent, my bad thought he was still a bengal... can’t see this helping him though

[FireMicoHalili]

Yep
Unlike us Pinoys he’s well-connected with the Spurs and Uncle Dennis. Every Filipino Spur fan’s dream, aside from finishing college and being an ESPN Insider.

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Last week Wright was saying that the meeting was players' idea not Pop's...He also said that Parker's comments were positive but people "misunderstood" them

This is his way to explain why the players wanted the meeting...I'm not that naive to believe "on a Pop's team" players can ask for a meeting without talking with him.

And so fucking what whether or not the players or Pop called it. Doesn't matter.

The underlying issue is what is the heart of this whole thing. They had a dodgy star player on their hands that was not communicating with them, at all really. They wanted and needed him on the court with them. But seeing as he had his own rehab routine, he was not seen much. So they couldn't ask him at the same time without calling a team meeting, and they finally did so after the 3rd or 4th time he let them know he was going to return.

At some point, the questions are going to be asked.

Where are you?
When are you coming back?

Btw, the mere fact that he was telling people he was coming back ought to tell you he was at least near healthy the entire season, even by his own inadvertent idiocy. This was a ruse.

Have I said fuck Kawhi yet today? Fuck Kawhi.

[FireMicoHalili]

No one is expecting the world. Equal value would be getting Simmons from Philly, Davis from New Orleans, something like that. No one is expecting anything close to equal value. I'm saying I don't see the point in taking a grab bag of a lot of limited players who won't be anything to build around. I just want one prospect who has a chance of being somebody. If I'm the Spurs GM and I don't get that then who cares if Leonard walks for nothing? Either way the Spurs are in the same situation, lottery bound with no one to build around. Ingram, Saric, same thing, limited player who could be a nice #3 in the best case.
Deng, Kuzma, Hart and picks. Jesus. They offer garbage then get mad their offer gets ignored. It’s nice they want the Spurs to get some return but there are 28 other teams.

[YGWHI]

And so fucking what whether or not the players or Pop called it. Doesn't matter.

It matters to Mike Wright since he spent many days on podcasts/interviews trying to deny Pop was involved.

I guess it matters the Spurs too since they're leaking to him these things. Who knows. Every side wants to build its own narrative.

[BatManu20]

2 years to the day... :cry


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[Seventyniner]

2 years to the day... :cry


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It still hurts :cry

[YGWHI]

2 years to the day... :cry


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Like the Bulls were MJ, not Phil...This franchise was just Tim, not about Pop.

Miss Tim so much, we were nothing before him and we're nothing without him now.

[DPG21920]

Spurs cannot, without getting MULTIPLE picks with good shots at being in the lottery take a package for Kawhi that doesn’t include an all star level player or a young player with still perceived all star upside.

They just can’t do it. I truly believe what SA wants is win now players more than guys like Ingram or Fultz but if that’s the case you have to get multiple picks.

This thing with PHI where they are saying no Fultz AND only one pick? No. You either give up Fultz and one pick or keep Fultz and send 3 picks.

[DPG21920]

Like the Bulls were MJ, not Phil...This franchise was just Tim, not about Pop.

Miss Tim so much, we were nothing before him and we're nothing without him now.

SA made the WCF without Tim.

[SAGirl]

2 years to the day... :cry


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Was thinking about this today and I have all this summer. So many fans have taken this summer’s events lightly.

Timmy retiring was very sad for me. I knew in my heart after that game he was done. My only reprieve was that the Spurs themselves weren't done bc Kawhi was going to be the leader of this team. What has been going on with Kawhi has taken me back to that day that summer that Tim retired and It’s made me really sad at times.

:depressed

[BatManu20]

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[Namundy]

Can we hurry up and trade this fucker so I can stop constantly checking Twitter and Reddit?

[spurs10]

Spurs cannot, without getting MULTIPLE picks with good shots at being in the lottery take a package for Kawhi that doesn’t include an all star level player or a young player with still perceived all star upside.

They just can’t do it. I truly believe what SA wants is win now players more than guys like Ingram or Fultz but if that’s the case you have to get multiple picks.

This thing with PHI where they are saying no Fultz AND only one pick? No. You either give up Fultz and one pick or keep Fultz and send 3 picks. This has been my feeling from the start, so I was happy to see RC speaking like he was in no hurry to trade Kawhi. Likely precisely because role players won't get the job done and that's all we'll get in a trade. If Philly isn't willing to trade Fultz then why not say 'thanks but no thanks.'

[spurs10]

1017099487465046016 Woot! Our second best player!

[Robz4000]

Woot! Our second best player!

:depressed

[TimDunkem]

Woot! Our second best player!

We are officially the San Antonio Kings.

[MoSpur02]

The talks with Boston seem to have fallen apart. Seems like the Spurs will look elsewhere.

[DPG21920]

We are officially the San Antonio Kings.

Kings made the playoffs last year?

[MoSpur02]

Unfortunately I think the Spurs might be dealing with Toronto. Not sure if it's Lowry or DeRozan. I'm not happy with either one, but DeRozan makes more sense.

[Dverde]

Unfortunately I think the Spurs might be dealing with Toronto. Not sure if it's Lowry or DeRozan. I'm not happy with either one, but DeRozan makes more sense.

I can’t be in a world where the Spurs are paying Lowry 60+ million for two years.

[spurs10]

:depressed Not getting Gay back was worse.

[NASpurs]

Unfortunately I think the Spurs might be dealing with Toronto. Not sure if it's Lowry or DeRozan. I'm not happy with either one, but DeRozan makes more sense.

:lol fucking gross

[Robz4000]

Not getting Gay back was worse.

I'm saying it sucks he's our second best player. Glad to have him back though.

[marinoman]

DeRozan is a top 12 player in the league and to me he was the 3rd place mvp imo last year . But every single year he turns into DeDumpster in the playoffs

[FkLA]

That is the strange part. If you never go to ST or never visit SA you would have no clue on the hatred they harbor for us. I never hated the Spurs or Pop. Bowen, Barry and Sean Elliott (announcer not player) absolutely. But Duncan, Manu, Pop, David and to a lessor degree Tony (and KL) no reason to hate those guys. Great classy players their fan base though has some good posters but a lot of bitter and insecure folks that you sometimes can't tell they have been the best franchise of the past 21 years the way they rip Pop/Tony/Manu on here...

Dude that is stupid. Why wouldn't we hate the Lakers?

For one, you were our biggest pain in the ass during Duncan's prime. Two, your team stands for the complete opposite of what the Spurs stand for. Glamour, destination city, that poaches other team's stars. A player in Kobe that was as selfish as they come and who was wrongly put above Timmy by way too many large-market catering media members. League darlings (SAC Game 6, Stern openly saying his dream finals are Lakers vs Lakers).

Go toe to toe in your profession with someone that was handed life on a silver platter and who continues to get preferential treatment and see how much you like that guy.

[MoSpur02]

I don't like DeRozan or Lowry. If the Spurs trade for Lowry I'm gonna lose it. I might be able to stomach DeRozan, but not Lowry.

[daslicer]

Dude that is stupid. Why wouldn't we hate the Lakers?

For one, you were our biggest pain in the ass during Duncan's prime. Two, your team stands for the complete opposite of what the Spurs stand for. Glamour, destination city, that poaches other team's stars. A player in Kobe that was as selfish as they come and who was wrongly put above Timmy by way too many large-market catering media members. League darlings (SAC Game 6, Stern openly saying his dream finals are Lakers vs Lakers).

Go toe to toe in your profession with someone that was handed life on a silver platter and who continues to get preferential treatment and see how much you like that guy.

That's how I feel about the Lakers. Lakers are the equivalent of that rich kid you work with at your job. You know the kid is not qualified for job but he's there because of his connections.

[Keepin' it real]

He traded yet?


I heard it's a done deal.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/523b4152e4b0b1e4104edd04/t/579112df8419c2a3c8e2644f/1469125591475/

[MoSpur02]

DeRozan wiped out his Instagram account

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thespun.com/nba/toronto-raptors/kawhi-leonard-trade-demar-derozan-instagram/amp

[DAF86]

That is the strange part. If you never go to ST or never visit SA you would have no clue on the hatred they harbor for us. I never hated the Spurs or Pop. Bowen, Barry and Sean Elliott (announcer not player) absolutely. But Duncan, Manu, Pop, David and to a lessor degree Tony (and KL) no reason to hate those guys. Great classy players their fan base though has some good posters but a lot of bitter and insecure folks that you sometimes can't tell they have been the best franchise of the past 21 years the way they rip Pop/Tony/Manu on here...

You are the United States of the NBA. Everybody hates you, tbh.

[Spurs9]

http://amicohoops.net/nba-rumors-san-antonio-spurs-kawhi-leonard-nba-trade-rumors-bleacher-report/

Nearly half a dozen general managers told Bleacher Report’s Ric Bucher during the first weekend of the Las Vegas Summer League that they would trade for San Antonio Spurs star Kawhi Leonard even without a guarantee he’ll stay beyond next season.

Leonard, who has requested a trade from the Spurs, will become a unrestricted free agent in 2019.

“I wouldn’t say we’re all scared to death to make a deal because there’s no chance he’ll re-sign [with a team somewhere other than L.A.],” an Eastern Conference general manager told Bucher. “PG [Paul George] did. C-Webb [Chris Webber] did.”

[Russ]

No one is expecting the world. Equal value would be getting Simmons from Philly, Davis from New Orleans, something like that. No one is expecting anything close to equal value. I'm saying I don't see the point in taking a grab bag of a lot of limited players who won't be anything to build around. I just want one prospect who has a chance of being somebody. If I'm the Spurs GM and I don't get that then who cares if Leonard walks for nothing? Either way the Spurs are in the same situation, lottery bound with no one to build around. Ingram, Saric, same thing, limited player who could be a nice #3 in the best case.

I agree.

As Bobby Dylan said, "When you ain't got nothin, you got nothin to lose."

Play it out.

[Seventyniner]

I would much rather have Lowry than DeRozan, one less year on his contract, better playmaker and more efficient scorer. But I would rather have neither.

[daslicer]

That is the strange part. If you never go to ST or never visit SA you would have no clue on the hatred they harbor for us. I never hated the Spurs or Pop. Bowen, Barry and Sean Elliott (announcer not player) absolutely. But Duncan, Manu, Pop, David and to a lessor degree Tony (and KL) no reason to hate those guys. Great classy players their fan base though has some good posters but a lot of bitter and insecure folks that you sometimes can't tell they have been the best franchise of the past 21 years the way they rip Pop/Tony/Manu on here...

I think for you there is a generation disconnect since you are above the age of 40. I'm in my 30's and I can tell you that there has been huge amount of hatred between Spurs and Laker fans who are below the age of 40. For you the Lakers biggest rival is the Celtics because you grew up during showtime but for anybody below the age of 40 the biggest Laker rival is the Spurs. Trust me Laker fans in my age range and younger harbor the same amount of hatred for the Spurs that Spur fans harbor for the Lakers. I live in NC and when I have worn any spurs shirts I have had random Laker fans come up to me and talk shit but it's all in good fun.

[MoSpur02]

I would much rather have Lowry than DeRozan, one less year on his contract, better playmaker and more efficient scorer. But I would rather have neither.

I think we're set in the PG position. If Kawhi is moved we'll be really thin on the SF position unless you're considering Blossomgame.

[MoSpur02]

Did Rudy Gay and DeRozan play together in Toronto?

[Ron Swanson]

Did Rudy Gay and DeRozan play together in Toronto?

Yes.

[SpursWoman]

I think for you there is a generation disconnect since you are above the age of 40. I'm in my 30's and I can tell you that there has been huge amount of hatred between Spurs and Laker fans who are below the age of 40. For you the Lakers biggest rival is the Celtics because you grew up during showtime but for anybody below the age of 40 the biggest Laker rival is the Spurs. Trust me Laker fans in my age range and younger harbor the same amount of hatred for the Spurs that Spur fans harbor for the Lakers. I live in NC and when I have worn any spurs shirts I have had random Laker fans come up to me and talk shit but it's all in good fun.

I'm over the age of 40 .. but was still relatively young in the 80's. I think the real hatred with Spurs fans v. Lakers started *only* about 15-18 years ago, when were weren't quite so old yet and already posting in this forum. :lol

[MoSpur02]

If a trade with Toronto happens I wonder if the Spurs include Mills or Gasol. I wonder if the Raptors include any other players. I wouldn't mind OG. Just his first name alone is worth it.

[spurs10]

I'm saying it sucks he's our second best player. Glad to have him back though. Oh no I got it! Agree! :toast

[loveforthegame]

Is Toronto a team that would flip Leonard to the Lakers or is it another team that would hold on to him because of ties to the Spurs?

[jjktkk]

Dude that is stupid. Why wouldn't we hate the Lakers?

For one, you were our biggest pain in the ass during Duncan's prime. Two, your team stands for the complete opposite of what the Spurs stand for. Glamour, destination city, that poaches other team's stars. A player in Kobe that was as selfish as they come and who was wrongly put above Timmy by way too many large-market catering media members. League darlings (SAC Game 6, Stern openly saying his dream finals are Lakers vs Lakers).

Go toe to toe in your profession with someone that was handed life on a silver platter and who continues to get preferential treatment and see how much you like that guy.

The Lakers, Spurs rivalry goes back a lot further than that. The Spurs had some very good teams back in the early 80s... Iceman, Mike Mitchell, Gene Banks, Johnny Moore, Artis Gilmore, etc... with a great coach in Stan Albeck. Those Spurs teams back then were championship contenders, but unfortunately, they could never get past Magic and the Lakers.

[MoSpur02]

Is Toronto a team that would flip Leonard to the Lakers or is it another team that would hold on to him because of ties to the Spurs?

I don't think they would flip him. Who knows? Could Kawhi pull a, "I'm not showing up" attitude if this trade goes down?

[Payote75]

If you look at the offer we been hearing I take derozan plus depending on the plus we can say what we want about him but the guy was a top 12 player his contract is not awful when you think about possibly having to hand out a supermax to a bitch diva cancer. You can add through free agency still especially if we can get some other pieces from Toronto that fit the Spurs and he is not old he and kawitter are what one year apart??

only other offer I'd consider is Irving and then we back to having to worry where as derozan Aldridge gay belli and youngsters and some other pieces from Toronto is not a bad team we made the playoffs without that diva last year in the western conference so we would be a 50 win team for sure.

in addition if the Spurs were willing to keep kawitter and add another player to help him why couple they acquire derozan and pieces and also put in play the same plan they had when keeping kawitter. For instance if it was Kembra then your telling me derozan Kembra Aldridge gay belli aren't a formidable good shooting team???? I'm all for it I want this over.

[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

It's clear Boston or Philly are capable of making best offer, but only Philly appears possibly willing to really negotiate. Lakers seem to only want Kawhi if they can get PATFO to panic and accept crap deal. Sacto maybe a dark horse to keep an eye on. If a deal is made with TOR (hope not) would rather Spurs convince Raptors to go all in and trade for Kawhi while keeping Lowry/Derozan. I personally would rather package Kawhi/Gasol/filler or pick for JV, some combination of OG, Siakam, Richardson and picks/filler. Make picks for 2020/21/22 (which should have potential as Kawhi would have bolted for LA, Lowry hurt or moved on, and Derozan old.)


I would much rather have Lowry than DeRozan, one less year on his contract, better playmaker and more efficient scorer. But I would rather have neither.

I agree. Not crazy about Toronto as trade partner, but if Spurs go that route hopefully they convince them to form Big 3, and get as many prospects/picks as possible. In the east a starting lineup of Lowry / Derozan/ Kawhi/ Ibaka/ Gasol should be able to challenge for finals spot.

[Spurs da champs]

DeRozan is so trash, OG & Pascal plus picks is interesting but not at the hindrance of Lowry or DeRozan.

[loveforthegame]

I don't think they would flip him. Who knows? Could Kawhi pull a, "I'm not showing up" attitude if this trade goes down?

I asked because a few articles suggested there were several teams who would rent Leonard and then flip him to the Lakers in February. I know teams with connections to the Spurs would not. I wasn’t sure where Toronto stood in that regard.

[look_at_g_shred]

Maybe he deleted all his stuff on IG because he is getting traded but not to SA. I could easily see him going to the lakers.

[CGD]

http://amicohoops.net/nba-rumors-san-antonio-spurs-kawhi-leonard-nba-trade-rumors-bleacher-report/

Nearly half a dozen general managers told Bleacher Report’s Ric Bucher during the first weekend of the Las Vegas Summer League that they would trade for San Antonio Spurs star Kawhi Leonard even without a guarantee he’ll stay beyond next season.

Leonard, who has requested a trade from the Spurs, will become a unrestricted free agent in 2019.

“I wouldn’t say we’re all scared to death to make a deal because there’s no chance he’ll re-sign [with a team somewhere other than L.A.],” an Eastern Conference general manager told Bucher. “PG [Paul George] did. C-Webb [Chris Webber] did.”

Need to fan this narrative!!

[MoSpur02]

I asked because a few articles suggested there were several teams who would rent Leonard and then flip him to the Lakers in February. I know teams with connections to the Spurs would not. I wasn’t sure where Toronto stood in that regard.

Anything can happen. I don't think that would be Toronto's intentions, but Kawhi could try to force his way out. I don't know honestly.

[DPG21920]

DeRozan fits what SA wants to apparently do which is get another all-star type player so they can be competitive around LMA. I hate, but if SA had DeRozan last year instead of no Kawhi then SA would have been a 3rd seed.

If they can get OG/Siakam along with DeRozan it would not be awful as far as at least SA is getting some decent young players back with DeRozan in the event he bolts.

They won’t have any picks that are worth anything which sucks, but SA’s goal seems to be staying competitive vs getting a young star + top picks it appears.

One would hope they could flip DeRozan later since he would have more or equal value to b*tchmade Kawhi at this point.

[DPG21920]

Maybe he deleted all his stuff on IG because he is getting traded but not to SA. I could easily see him going to the lakers.

That would be amazing. It would take LA out of the Kawhi sweepstakes most likely and DeRozan literally just got caught on film saying “hell no” to coming to LA.

[MoSpur02]

Maybe he deleted all his stuff on IG because he is getting traded but not to SA. I could easily see him going to the lakers.

Nah. Kawhi is going to be moved to Toronto. I'm assuming it's for DeRozan. It wouldn't make much sense to move Kawhi for Lowry.

[Lostwingman]

A lot of us still remember the old "asterisk title" comments too.

[NASpurs]

:lmao @ DeRozan wiping out his IG account

Has it always said "Started In Compton... #Comp10 (https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/comp10/)"?

[HarlemHeat37]

I'd literally vomit if the Spurs got DeRozan, tbh..

[NASpurs]

wtf does that even mean?

https://thespun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/derozan-ig.png

[MoSpur02]

I'd literally vomit if the Spurs got DeRozan, tbh..

Yeah I'm not thrilled about this either, but I'd rather have him than Lowry if this trade goes down, which I'm hearing it should. I'd start another thread regarding this news, but I'd one will be started once the trade actually goes down.

[KDKSpurs24]

I'd literally vomit if the Spurs got DeRozan, tbh..

[NASpurs]

Yeah I'm not thrilled about this either, but I'd rather have him than Lowry if this trade goes down, which I'm hearing it should. I'd start another thread regarding this news, but I'd one will be started once the trade actually goes down.

Not going to lie, I'm skeptical when I read your posts but if this shit goes down, I'll believe everything you'll ever say. :lol

[MoSpur02]

wtf does that even mean?

https://thespun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/derozan-ig.png

Is that from his Instagram account or some other social media account?

[Robz4000]

I'd literally vomit if the Spurs got DeRozan, tbh..

[Lostwingman]

Fucking cryptic millennial social media garbage.

[slick'81]

Yeah I'm not thrilled about this either, but I'd rather have him than Lowry if this trade goes down, which I'm hearing it should. I'd start another thread regarding this news, but I'd one will be started once the trade actually goes down.


Whats going down!?

[spurraider21]

done deal

#receipts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdMdRLEeZzo

[Robz4000]

Spurs about to go from Autism to Cancer. Spectacular.

[FkLA]

If he buys into the Spurs culture, DeRozan is intriguing. 28 PPG guys don't grow on trees. Gay was a career loser/cancer and I said if he buys in he will do well, and sure enough he was a pro's pro and he ended up being a great Spur.

[NASpurs]

Is that from his Instagram account or some other social media account?

From his IG account, one of his stories.

[daslicer]

I'd literally vomit if the Spurs got DeRozan, tbh..

Agreed but I do enjoy the idea of seeing Kawhi suffer in Toronto. He will definitely hate it up there granted he will only be there for a year.

[MoSpur02]

Not going to lie, I'm skeptical when I read your posts but if this shit goes down, I'll believe everything you'll ever say. :lol

LOL. I don't blame you. I was almost right back before the traded deadline. The Spurs were going to trade him, but they backed off. I'm sure they regret it now because apparently Tatum was part of that offer.

I wouldn't make stuff up just because. I actually believe it'll go down.

[daslicer]

If he buys into the Spurs culture, DeRozan is intriguing. 28 PPG guys don't grow on trees. Gay was a career loser/cancer and I said if he buys in he will do well, and sure enough he was a pro's pro and he ended up being a great Spur.

With him the Spurs are 50 win team. They are not going to win a title but at least we will still have a good team to watch.

[Lostwingman]

So all I know about the brick brothers up in Toronto is that they're pretty inefficient offensively? What else is up with DeRozan?

[MoSpur02]

From his IG account, one of his stories.

So I'm assuming he just posted that?

[HarlemHeat37]

If he buys into the Spurs culture, DeRozan is intriguing. 28 PPG guys don't grow on trees. Gay was a career loser/cancer and I said if he buys in he will do well, and sure enough he was a pro's pro and he ended up being a great Spur.

When did all this happen with Rudy Gay? He barely played last season:lol

[spurs10]

Well maybe RC is going to trade him after all, at least it's to an All-Star that can help if it goes down. Lord! :wow

[NASpurs]

So I'm assuming he just posted that?

It's actually in that article you posted about him deleting his IG posts. You need an IG account to view stories but yeah, I checked and click on the red glowing circle around his profile picture. It's there. They get deleted after 24 hrs.

[Spurs da champs]

I'm hoping this is to scare Lakers or Sixers into offering a better package, Derozan is trash.

[benefactor]

:lol Spurs fans talking themselves into DeRozan...I wouldn't take him for nothing.

[KDKSpurs24]

I'm hoping this is to scare Lakers or Sixers into offering a better package, Derozan is trash.

[Ron Swanson]

MoSpence02

[NASpurs]

It'll be funny if the Spurs don't trade Kawhi but it's other players going for DeRozan while keeping Kawhi

"See we promised another All-Star" :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

So all I know about the brick brothers up in Toronto is that they're pretty inefficient offensively? What else is up with DeRozan?

Very good volume scorer, relies heavily on mid-range Js and getting to the line..horrendous defensive player, can be a ballhog(although he's gotten better, in this regard) and one of the worst playoff performers of his generation..

The positive side is that DeRozan is essentially a slightly worse version of what Aldridge used to be prior to joining the Spurs..SA turned Aldridge into something more than an inefficient volume scorer, maybe they can do the same for DeRozan..

I don't buy it, though..I live in Toronto, the narrative last season was that DeRozan is no longer the same player..yet when the games began to matter, nothing had changed..

For this Spurs team, he would help them tremendously from a win-now perspective, though..you'll never win anything that matters with DeRozan, but he would be a huge help for this Spurs team that doesn't have any creators..it's a waste of Kawhi in terms of building for the future, but adding him would be a significant boost for next season..

[spurs10]

When did all this happen with Rudy Gay? He barely played last season:lol:lol C'mon he played great.....when he played!

[spurs10]

It'll be funny if the Spurs don't trade Kawhi but it's other players going for DeRozan while keeping Kawhi

"See we promised another All-Star" :lol Now that would be sweet! I'll go with that dream for now! :toast

[MoSpur02]

MoSpence02

:lol

[marinoman]

Aldridge deleted some social media accounts last year cause I guess he was tired of criticism, I could see DeRozan deleting ig cause he’s tired of lakers rumors

[Dverde]

Does he have an Uncle/Aunt managing his career?

[Payote75]

Again if they do get derozan why wouldn't they pull off whatever trade they had in mind to keep kawitter a spur. We assume it to be walker which would be nice but whomever it is it would just improve the team that much more. So I'm k with this ...it's a star player no matter how you slice it possibly to if they complete the other part that law inter was holding up.

[HarlemHeat37]

DeRozan is a great team guy, I've never heard anything bad about him through the media or anything..

He suffers from bouts of depression, though, so him and Aldridge on the same team might be the most sensitive duo in the league:lol

[Spurs4#5]

I’ve got it on good authority from a source that is in the know that is in tune with the thinking of pop and rc that something will happen. Stay tuned for more ridiculous updates

[spurraider21]

I’ve got it on good authority from a source that is in the know that is in tune with the thinking of pop and rc that something will happen. Stay tuned for more ridiculous updates
sauces

#receipts

[Dverde]

DeRozan is a great team guy, I've never heard anything bad about him through the media or anything..

He suffers from bouts of depression, though, so him and Aldridge on the same team might be the most sensitive duo in the league:lol

They can recruit Kevin Love next offseason

[NASpurs]

I’ve got it on good authority from a source that is in the know that is in tune with the thinking of pop and rc that something will happen. Stay tuned for more ridiculous updates

Seems legit. Subscribed.

[Mugen]

If Toronto was getting serious, then that's only good news. Spurs need possible suitors to start making some noise tbh

[r0drig0lac]

done deal

#receipts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdMdRLEeZzo

done deal

[HarlemHeat37]

If Toronto was getting serious, then that's only good news. Spurs need possible suitors to start making some noise tbh

This is true..especially since swapping DeRozan with Kawhi makes them much better than Philly, as long as they don't lose both OG and Siakam..

[spurraider21]

done deal
Pinoy Marauder can confirm
apalisoc_9

[MoSpur02]

I don't like it. Kawhi is a much better player than DeMar DeRozan, but apparently they (Spurs front office) tried to get Boston to work a deal and other teams were interested, but didn't want to give up any players of worth.

[Spurs9]

If Toronto was getting serious, then that's only good news. Spurs need possible suitors to start making some noise tbh

Exactly, it gets other teams to up an offer. I much perfer a trade getting Derozen + other pieces over that Tobias trade some were talking about before the draft.

[NASpurs]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8y31pa/demar_derozan_just_deleted_all_his_instagram_pics/

People are saying he deletes all of his IG posts every year.

[Mugen]

Uncle Dennis would probably nix that shit though...

"Kawhi can't speak Canadian, FOH!"

[Spurs4#5]

Now I can’t say my sauces name (obviously) but I can direct y’all to the hidden website where all gm’s communicate and discuss trades. It is there that you will know exactly what is going to happen not only to the spurs but for every other team. All you must do is check it out and you too can be informed with sauces. The link is as followed... www.spurstalk.com

[Spurs da champs]

Spurs could turn OG into Kawhi lite?

[tonight...you]

Now I can’t say my sauces name (obviously) but I can direct y’all to the hidden website where all gm’s communicate and discuss trades. It is there that you will know exactly what is going to happen not only to the spurs but for every other team. All you must do is check it out and you too can be informed with sauces. The link is as followed... www.spurstalk.com (http://www.spurstalk.com)
OMG... I thought you were BS'ing, but after checking it out... you were right!

[MoSpur02]

Could Kawhi pull something where they try to disrupt this trade or keep it from happening? I wouldn't put it past his uncle.

[MoSpur02]

DeRozan is a great team guy, I've never heard anything bad about him through the media or anything..

He suffers from bouts of depression, though, so him and Aldridge on the same team might be the most sensitive duo in the league:lol

Not funny, but I :lol

[rjv]

I’ve got it on good authority from a source that is in the know that is in tune with the thinking of pop and rc that something will happen. Stay tuned for more ridiculous updates

https://vz.cnwimg.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/tarot.jpg

[HarlemHeat37]

Kawhi's a good fit for the Raptors..the media here doesn't care much, especially since the Leafs are good again, he won't be under any pressure to perform and everybody will be happy just to have him..

[marinoman]

I still love the he’s on a plane update.

[Spurs4#5]

OMG... I thought you were BS'ing, but after checking it out... you were right!

I MUST STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF IF SOMEONE ASK YOU WHERE YOU GOT THIS LINK FROM YOU DONT TELL THEM IT CAME FROM ME!!!! please.

[exstatic]

DeRozan is a great team guy, I've never heard anything bad about him through the media or anything..

He suffers from bouts of depression, though, so him and Aldridge on the same team might be the most sensitive duo in the league:lol

https://www.thesociologicalcinema.com/uploads/4/8/3/9/4839762/2626650.jpg?1387902045

[DPG21920]

:lol Spurs fans talking themselves into DeRozan...I wouldn't take him for nothing.

Look, DeRozan isn’t a great player, but he’s not trash. He’s not like a Melo currently is. He has some value even if I hate his game.

SA, in the lense of staying as competive as possible, getting DeRozan makes sense. SA would be a third seed and might have beaten GS (sans Curry) with DeRozan.

But I will only be ok with it if they get two other younger assets with it. If they get DeRozan to stay competitive, fine, but they need to get younger players with upside like OG.

It’s not good at all and it’s a massive downgrade from Kawhi, but SA might be screwed here. I think around the league DeRozan has some value and maybe he can be flipped for something solid.

So think of it like trading Kawhi for OG/Siakam and maybe a pick + whatever assets they can get for DeRozan? Not great but if they can get a high upside draft pick for DeRozan and another player? Might not be an awful haul.

But I expect they would want DeRozan :lol so this is all moot.

SA will for sure be a playoff team with DeRozan and it looks like that is SA’s goal vs rebuilding and getting youth.

[-21-]

Where is all this Raptors talk coming from? There's only been one tweet about it iirc. Did I miss something?

[RD2191]

Where is all this Raptors talk coming from? There's only been one tweet about it iirc. Did I miss something?

Same

[Dex]

Where is all this Raptors talk coming from? There's only been one tweet about it iirc. Did I miss something?


Same

Apparently, the fact that Derozan recently cleared his IG. So...nothing.

I'll believe it when I see it.

[Mr. Body]

Why are we talking about DeRozan so much?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

DeRozan is a playoff CHOKER, jesus christ, I live in Toronto see just about every Raptor game possible. Come playoff time if DeMar isn't soring he is WORTHLESS. Brings absolutely nothing to the table, got benched in crucial fourth wuarters in the playoffs because he was a selfish liability. He's like a far more expensive Rudy Gay with crappier defense.


No thanks to DeMar, I'd honestly rather let Kawhi walk for nothing than take on DeMar's albatross of a contract.

[Maddog]

Where is all this Raptors talk coming from? There's only been one tweet about it iirc. Did I miss something?


Same

It's one of many done deals. PATFO are genius, they have manged to trade KL to multiple teams at the same time.

[spurraider21]

DeRozan is a playoff CHOKER, jesus christ, I live in Toronto see just about every Raptor game possible. Come playoff time if DeMar isn't soring he is WORTHLESS. Brings absolutely nothing to the table, got benched in crucial fourth wuarters in the playoffs because he was a selfish liability. He's like a far more expensive Rudy Gay with crappier defense.


No thanks to DeMar, I'd honestly rather let Kawhi walk for nothing than take on DeMar's albatross of a contract.
he's under contract for 2 seasons. unlikely he'd exercise his player option

[-21-]

Apparently, the fact that Derozan recently cleared his IG. So...nothing.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Shows you how desperate we are for something to happen. :lol

[dbestpro]

DeRozan is a three point shot away from being top 10. If Chip could fix his three point shot, then he could make many forget about KL and he is only one year older. He definitely fits the win now scenario. The Spurs still need a bench center which Poltl could easily become and even move to being a starter. Siakam would also be a solid reserve.

[tonight...you]

DeRozan is a playoff CHOKER, jesus christ, I live in Toronto see just about every Raptor game possible. Come playoff time if DeMar isn't soring he is WORTHLESS. Brings absolutely nothing to the table, got benched in crucial fourth wuarters in the playoffs because he was a selfish liability. He's like a far more expensive Rudy Gay with crappier defense.


No thanks to DeMar, I'd honestly rather let Kawhi walk for nothing than take on DeMar's albatross of a contract.
About to be in Toronto on Monday. Any cool/nice places you can recommend?

[MoSpur02]

Apparently, the fact that Derozan recently cleared his IG. So...nothing.

I'll believe it when I see it.

It's more than that.

[-21-]

DeRozan is a three point shot away from being top 10. If Chip could fix his three point shot, then he could make many forget about KL and he is only one year older. He definitely fits the win now scenario. The Spurs still need a bench center which Poltl could easily become and even move to being a starter. Siakam would also be a solid reserve.

He supposedly improved his three point shooting last year but I'm not convinced tbh. Call me crazy but I'd rather have Saric, Covington, Miami 2021 1st.

[-21-]

It's more than that.

?

[RD2191]

It's more than that.
https://media.giphy.com/media/joGUuMFGRwxd6/giphy.gif

[-21-]

https://media.giphy.com/media/joGUuMFGRwxd6/giphy.gif

:lol

[dbestpro]

Gasol, KL, Green for DeRozan, Ibaka and a first round pick. Pop could bring the best out of both these guys.

[MoSpur02]

https://media.giphy.com/media/joGUuMFGRwxd6/giphy.gif

Go back and read a couple of pages.

[RD2191]

Go back and read a couple of pages.

Just fukin tell me gawd dammit

[SpursDynasty85]

Look, DeRozan isn’t a great player, but he’s not trash. He’s not like a Melo currently is. He has some value even if I hate his game.

SA, in the lense of staying as competive as possible, getting DeRozan makes sense. SA would be a third seed and might have beaten GS (sans Curry) with DeRozan.

But I will only be ok with it if they get two other younger assets with it. If they get DeRozan to stay competitive, fine, but they need to get younger players with upside like OG.

It’s not good at all and it’s a massive downgrade from Kawhi, but SA might be screwed here. I think around the league DeRozan has some value and maybe he can be flipped for something solid.

So think of it like trading Kawhi for OG/Siakam and maybe a pick + whatever assets they can get for DeRozan? Not great but if they can get a high upside draft pick for DeRozan and another player? Might not be an awful haul.

But I expect they would want DeRozan :lol so this is all moot.

SA will for sure be a playoff team with DeRozan and it looks like that is SA’s goal vs rebuilding and getting youth.

Lots of possibilities and lots of risk for Toronto when talking about trading for Kawhi. I think their base is fed up with Derozan and Lowry combo and maybe there manager and would like the cap space but I suspect they would not trade away a lot more of their younger pieces for a 1 yr rental of Kawhi. Derozan + draft pick is .80 cents on the dollar for Kawhi which is more than we should expect. It is not a best case scenario but should all other teams and deals fall through this is a great back up plan to have.

[tonight...you]

Gasol, KL, Green for DeRozan, Ibaka and a first round pick. Pop could bring the best out of both these guys.
Interesting...

[DPG21920]

Kawhi + Mills for DeRozan + OG + Siakam works almost literally dollar for dollar.

[FlAVaK]

Include Gasol and Valanciunas and it still works dollar for dollar...

[DPG21920]

Include Gasol and Valanciunas and it still works dollar for dollar...

I would rather have Pau than JV since Pau is basically gone next year.

[gambit1990]

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[SpursDynasty85]

Kawhi + Mills for DeRozan + OG + Siakam works almost literally dollar for dollar.

Was thinking Derozan + Valucians for Kawhi + Gasol. Raptors have too many pgs already and doubt they would want a longterm one at that.

[MoSpur02]

Kawhi + Mills for DeRozan + OG + Siakam works almost literally dollar for dollar.
I like that

[Dex]

https://media.giphy.com/media/joGUuMFGRwxd6/giphy.gif

:lol

[Mugen]

I'd want that 2020 Raptors pick since there's probably a 1% chance Leonard would stay in Toronto :lol

[FlAVaK]

But if spurfan doesn't want DeRozan, add star-desperate Sacto with its capspace to the mix:

Raptors get: Leonard, Gasol, Shumpert
Kings get: DeRozan, Mills
Spurs get: Valanciunas, Bogdanovic, Poeltl, Anunoby

[-21-]

1017149441755602945

The PG the Clippers drafted looks good but other than that they have nothing to offer.

[Mugen]

RC's probably been drunk since 7am, i wouldn't pay much attention to it tbh

[tonight...you]

RC's probably been drunk since 7am, i wouldn't pay much attention to it tbh

Dude... that's the life.
Paid like cray and just get drizunk anytime you want.
Get a DWI? Get a raise!

I want his job.

[SpursDynasty85]

RC's probably been drunk since 7am, i wouldn't pay much attention to it tbh

Due Diligence. He is probably running on 3-4 hours of sleep but you have to evaluate Clippers talent. Gotta go after SGA. That guy is going to be a good pg.

[DPG21920]

I'd want that 2020 Raptors pick since there's probably a 1% chance Leonard would stay in Toronto :lol

For sure

[gambit1990]

derozan is awful.

are the spurs trying to stay competitive or shoot an heb-prozac commercial?

[DPG21920]

He’s awful if you are trying to win a title with him as a main guy. But he’s not awful if you want to remain a really good regular season team with a shot at winning around in the playoffs.

[tonight...you]

derozan is awful.

are the spurs trying to stay competitive or shoot an heb-prozac commercial?
The commercial alone might be worth it... tbh.

[Robz4000]

But if spurfan doesn't want DeRozan, add star-desperate Sacto with its capspace to the mix:

Raptors get: Leonard, Gasol, Shumpert
Kings get: DeRozan, Mills
Spurs get: Valanciunas, Bogdanovic, Poeltl, Anunoby

:vomit: I'd rather let him walk

[tonight...you]

He’s awful if you are trying to win a title with him as a main guy. But he’s not awful if you want to remain a really good regular season team with a shot at winning around in the playoffs.
I think LMA would remain the Main Guy. Don't want anymore trade demands, you know.

[-21-]

He’s awful if you are trying to win a title with him as a main guy. But he’s not awful if you want to remain a really good regular season team with a shot at winning around in the playoffs.

You could say the same for Aldridge... LMA+DeRozan=:lobt2:???

[Hoops Czar]

He’s awful if you are trying to win a title with him as a main guy. But he’s not awful if you want to remain a really good regular season team with a shot at winning around in the playoffs.

Why would any team have this goal in mind when the idea is to win championships?

[cd98]

RC's probably been drunk since 7am, i wouldn't pay much attention to it tbh

Yep, he probably doesn't know which teams are playing.

[TheDoctor]

Pinoy Marauder can confirm
apalisoc_9 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11260)
:lol

[tonight...you]

Why would any team have this goal in mind when the idea is to win championships?
Monetary reasons homie. We're just living in the GS Warriors world at the moment.

[gambit1990]

who wants lamarcus? i'd do a sign and trade with clint capela in a heartbeat. would much rather give him $ over demar.

[cd98]

I don't see the DeRozan rumor as legit in any way, but if it was, it tells you the state of the offers that Kawhi is getting and how badly he's damaged his trade value. The fact that teams don't want to include potential stars for a proven superstar tells you what those teams think of Kawhi. If it was a no-brainer, it'd be done by now.

[Pavlov]

1017149441755602945Never read too much into that. Team personnel watch games because 1) they're going on all the time and 2) they can talk amongst themselves and other teams in the VIP section without getting harassed.

[MoSpur02]

I'm gonna be away from my phone for a couple of hours. As I stated earlier there is a potential deal in place that sends Kawhi to Toronto. I'm not sure on who is coming back in exchange, but I'm assuming DeRozan since he plays the same position as Kawhi. If it's for Lowry I will literally cry. I'm assuming something will be announced later or perhaps early tomorrow.

I not trying to make stuff up or whatever. Just passing along info. I hope that something happens last minute to kill this trade because I don't like DeRozan for Kawhi, but i'll support it.

[rjv]

1017149441755602945

that's all ST needs to start a john wall thread.

[MaNu4Tres]

I'd rather trade Pau/Kawhi to Toronto

WIth Ibaka, OG, Siakem, Miles and picks -- plural than take back DeRozan.

Send Miles to Sacramento in a 3 way deal.

[Killakobe81]

You are the United States of the NBA. Everybody hates you, tbh.

Not saying I don't understand why we are hated Lakers we are like the Yankees, Cowboys, Duke. It's just weird the level of hate... I live in Dallas and they hate the Lakers too... But not the way Spur fan does.
WE HATE the Celts, Jazz, Sacramento, Blazers and Suns. They also hate us back.
SPURS hate is mostly one sided.
That is what I mean...

[ducks]

spur fans hate the lakers because they were the big rival
kobe vs duncan

[daslicer]

Not saying I don't understand why we are hated Lakers we are like the Yankees, Cowboys, Duke. It's just weird the level of hate... I live in Dallas and they hate the Lakers too... But not the way Spur fan does.
WE HATE the Celts, Jazz, Sacramento, Blazers and Suns. They also hate us back.
SPURS hate is mostly one sided.
That is what I mean...

No it's not dude it's like I said in another post which is you are just disconnected from the generations that are below the age of 40. Trust me I have gotten a lot of grief from Laker fans who are in my age range and younger when they find out I'm a spurs fan.

[TD 21]

Can't imagine the Raptors trading both Siakam and Anunoby, who are basically their only legit forwards (Ibaka is more of a C at this point and Miles is an undersized SF). They already didn't have a pick in the '18 draft because of trades, so picks are likely out too. At best, they'd probably do DeRozan and Anunoby.

Personality wise, DeRozan is definitely Spurs material, but they'd be locking themselves into essentially being Raptors West, in a better conference, for the foreseeable future. As much as they probably want to remain as competitive as possible, I've got to believe they want more of an upside or at least the possibility of it, than a bunch of 50 something win seasons, that inevitably end in at best the 2nd round.

[marinoman]

The plane was going North this whole time

[DPG21920]

I'd rather trade Pau/Kawhi to Toronto

WIth Ibaka, OG, Siakem, Miles and picks -- plural than take back DeRozan.

Send Miles to Sacramento in a 3 way deal.

Ibaka sucks way worse than DeRozan tough and his contract is basically the same (if we are to assume DR would opt out his final year to cash in one last big deal).

[Strategic]

:vomit: I'd rather let him walk Me too since I can’t pronounce any of those names.

[exstatic]

The plane was going North this whole time

:lol Done deal...

[Dex]

Ibaka sucks way worse than DeRozan tough and his contract is basically the same (if we are to assume DR would opt out his final year to cash in one last big deal).

This. The only way I want Ibaka is if they include a time machine to take him back to 2012.

[Ron Swanson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYk2nA-Suzs

[tonight...you]

If Donedeal Receipts Marauder didn't call this, it ain't happening.

[MaNu4Tres]

Ibaka sucks way worse than DeRozan tough and his contract is basically the same (if we are to assume DR would opt out his final year to cash in one last big deal).

Ibaka isn't the reason for the deal. It's OG/Siakem and the picks.

[FkLA]

When did all this happen with Rudy Gay? He barely played last season:lol

What about Rudy was cancerous last season? All things considered, he did really good. Wasn't disruptive/a blackhole and came back from his Achilles injury better than just about anyone in recent memory.

[tonight...you]

Ibaka isn't the reason for the deal. It's OG/Siakem and the picks.
Are they worth it? Haven't watched Toronto...

[MaNu4Tres]

Are they worth it? Haven't watched Toronto...

OG is a better piece to add than Saric/Covington. Only 20 years old and has a lot to like.

[Dex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYk2nA-Suzs

:lmao Yes, Cuban B!

[raybies]

You guys actually think that Kawhi in this current state would fetch DeRozan, OG, Siakim, and picks and we offload a shit contract??? Lawd. Now I understand why this board is let down so often lol

[tonight...you]

What about Rudy was cancerous last season? All things considered, he did really good. Wasn't disruptive/a blackhole and came back from his Achilles injury better than just about anyone in recent memory.
I'm Gay for Rudy!
https://media1.tenor.com/images/0a6672b7b8ce71e38fdc26b12b316cc3/tenor.gif?itemid=11023115

[tonight...you]

OG is better than Saric/Covington by himself.
Wow... I need to look into this.
Thanks bruv!

[spurs10]

Kawhi is going nowhere. In two weeks he's supposed to suit up for Pop and Team USA...that should be interesting.

[slick'81]

You guys actually think that Kawhi in this current state would fetch DeRozan, OG, Siakim, and picks and we offload a shit contract??? Lawd. Now I understand why this board is let down so often lol

:lol

[tonight...you]

Kawhi is going nowhere. In two weeks he's supposed to suit up for Pop and Team USA...that should be interesting.
He won't show. He's never shown for Team USA. He definitely won't now.

[r0drig0lac]

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shai alexander for sure

[coachmac87]

You guys actually think that Kawhi in this current state would fetch DeRozan, OG, Siakim, and picks and we offload a shit contract??? Lawd. Now I understand why this board is let down so often lol

They pick and choose what they wanna like..

If you don’t hate on PATFO and don’t acknowledge you know what’s best you’re just vanilla...

[spurs10]

He won't show. He's never shown for Team USA. He definitely won't now. You are probably right. That will really help his trade value.

[Wu36]

The plane was going North this whole time
My sauces say his old ass truck been broke down a minute and he needs 221 mil to fix it.

[palangi]

Im ok with DeRozan if OG comes back with him.

Leonard, Pau

For

DeRozan
OG Anunoby
Siakim
Malachi Richardson
Future picks

[rascal]

You guys actually think that Kawhi in this current state would fetch DeRozan, OG, Siakim, and picks and we offload a shit contract??? Lawd. Now I understand why this board is let down so often lol

It is like the trade offers you get in fantasy leagues.

[SpursDynasty85]

Im ok with DeRozan if OG comes back with him.

Leonard, Pau

For

DeRozan
OG Anunoby
Siakim
Malachi Richardson
Future picks

Lol. All that for a 1 yr rental?

[raybies]

They pick and choose what they wanna like..

If you don’t hate on PATFO and don’t acknowledge you know what’s best you’re just vanilla...
tru...

there's reality, then there's fantasy and then somewhere in between that is Spurstalk...

But no matter what, I'm pretty sure a lot of ppl are gonna be miserable with what happens with Kawhi. The best offer is what,?? Saric, Covington and a first LMAO. DeRozan is legit... At least in season which I'm fine with. The problem was in Toronto there was no one there to yoke him into a winner... Someone has to be able to perform when it counts that makes you believe in yourself. Always felt Elie and Jackson did that with Rob and Duncan, then Horry, then Duncan and Manu came of age and then Parker finally had his time against Miami after all those years. Tony sucked in the playoffs too for a long time. He got over it. Demarr is a quality scorer. If he gets over his playoff yips and does what he does in the season in the playoffs that alone would be worth Kawhi especially after him missing a year and essentially being seen as having a Lavar like group. Give me OG and that would make me ecstatic. A veteran All Star with a young kid with legit starter potential would be an amazing haul considering the circumstances.

Murray/DeRozan/OG/Gay/LMA would have be good out the gate and would have some potential for growth depending on OG and Murray. You can even put Bertans in there instead of Gay for more spacing. Playoffs would probably be miserable but you hope the culture and staff could be the difference which I believe will be.

[marinoman]

Apo me once shame on you, apo me twice shame on me

[Baam]

1017149441755602945

The Clips have nothing, think he was watching the Wizards.

Beal + Morris + Troy Brown + Oubre + 1st or something

Beal is entering his prime at least unlike the Craptors' "stars".

[offset formation]

Uncle Dennis would probably nix that shit though...

"Kawhi can't speak, FOH!"

FIFY.

[Dex]

DeRozan obviously comes with his warts...but considering Kawhi's current value, he is about as talented as a player as the Spurs can get back if they are hoping to stay competitive. And I still don't think they are angling to let Pop and LMA spend their later years in a full rebuild.

Everyone he is scrambling for prospects or picks, and the Spurs could definitely use some of those. But they are far, far from guarantees....Spurs will look like they got caught with their pants down if they bring in a bunch of guys who either don't pan out or never even become legit NBA talents.

[FkLA]

People are too enamored with youth/potential.

Yeah, obviously DeRozan isn't Kawhi and he has his flaws but what are the chances any of the young guys that have been tied to a Kawhi trade develop into a player of DeRozan's caliber? It's really no different than PHI not wanting to give up Fultz for a Top 3 player because of potential. I'm reading some of you would prefer Saric, Covington, and MIA 1st Rounder which is insane to me.

The Spurs system/culture/development is a real thing too. It's not just some corny myth. DeRozan would get better in SA. DeRozan-LMA and hope one of the young guys can become that third fringe star (White). I'll take it given the absolute awful situation Kawhitter has put this franchise in.