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TSA
04-03-2018, 05:54 PM
Could be?

What is your evidence they laundered money? Never said I had evidence dummy, hence the word "could".



What more are you saying he could uncover?

Be specific. This is your conspiracy theory. Having access to Mueller's evidence has nothing to do with your conspiracy theory.Shady lobbying work outside of Ukraine.

TSA
04-03-2018, 05:56 PM
Well you are posting from another account because one of my theories was a fact. Biatch. :lol

And you got cocky after that and stupidly accepted $2000 worth of bets from me. Biatch. :lol

Pavlov
04-03-2018, 05:57 PM
Never said I had evidence dummy, hence the word "could".Walk me through how Podesta would need to launder money the way Manafort and Gates are accused of doing.

It's your conspiracy theory.



Shady lobbying work outside of Ukraine.Outside of Ukraine?

Where?

Chris
04-03-2018, 06:07 PM
I like Wonkette. They say "fuck" a lot.

Like "I can't believe there are fucking stupid people who think Trump didn't collude with Russia". or "Fucking stupid people shill for Trump."

Typical feelings over facts Libtard :lol "they say fuck a lot" :lmao

Reck
04-03-2018, 06:09 PM
Typical feelings over facts Libtard :lol "they say fuck a lot" :lmao

Another baseless Chris claim. :lol

Chris
04-03-2018, 06:11 PM
Another baseless Chris claim. :lol

Another "I'm completely lost here and have no idea what's going on" post from Reck :lol

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 06:13 PM
Another "I'm completely lost here and have no idea what's going on" post from Reck :lol

Define Mccarthyism.

Pavlov
04-03-2018, 06:26 PM
Another "I'm completely lost here and have no idea what's going on" post from Reck :lolMy favorite tennis player is Porton Becker.

Chris
04-03-2018, 06:32 PM
chirp chirp


My favorite tennis player is Porton Becker.


Reck's hive mind buddies coming to the rescue! :lol

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 06:33 PM
Chris using a search engine is like him trying to wipe his own ass. He can't do neither.

Chris
04-03-2018, 06:34 PM
Chris using a search engine is like him trying to wipe his own ass. He can't do neither.

Djohn admitting he is SOL without a search engine! Lawdy! :lol

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 06:36 PM
Djohn admitting he is SOL without a search engine! Lawdy! :lol

Anybody want to tell Chris that's what google is?

Chris
04-03-2018, 06:38 PM
Anybody want to tell Chris that's what google is?

Google and Kyle Griffin is the extent of your wisdom. :lol

Blake
04-03-2018, 06:52 PM
Google and Kyle Griffin is the extent of your wisdom. :lol

Chuck Woolery is the extent of yours

Chris
04-03-2018, 07:15 PM
Chuck Woolery is the extent of yours

Show us on the doll where Chuck touched you.

I haven't posted a Woolery tweet in a long time :lol

Mitch
04-03-2018, 07:26 PM
:lol almost 900 pages

TSA
04-03-2018, 07:42 PM
And you got cocky after that and stupidly accepted $2000 worth of bets from me. Biatch. :lol

Mueller told Trump’s attorneys the president remains under investigation but is not currently a criminal target

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/mueller-told-trumps-attorneys-the-president-remains-under-investigation-but-is-not-currently-a-criminal-target/2018/04/03/d7832cf0-36c1-11e8-acd5-35eac230e514_story.html?utm_term=.471d82743654&__twitter_impression=true

https://media0.giphy.com/media/UiBmJv6Hh6FfW/200w.gif

spurraider21
04-03-2018, 07:49 PM
Mueller told Trump’s attorneys the president remains under investigation but is not currently a criminal target

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/mueller-told-trumps-attorneys-the-president-remains-under-investigation-but-is-not-currently-a-criminal-target/2018/04/03/d7832cf0-36c1-11e8-acd5-35eac230e514_story.html?utm_term=.471d82743654&__twitter_impression=true
:lol CIA mouthpiece fake news WaPo good now
:lol "people familiar with discussions" good now

spurraider21
04-03-2018, 07:50 PM
from that piece, btw


Prosecutors view someone as a subject when that person has engaged in conduct that is under investigation but there is not sufficient evidence to bring charges.

The special counsel also told Trump’s lawyers that he is preparing a report about the president’s actions while in office and potential obstruction of justice, according to two people with knowledge of the conversations.

Mueller reiterated the need to interview Trump — both to understand whether he had any corrupt intent to thwart the Russia investigation and to complete this portion of his probe, the people said.


Other advisers, however, noted that subjects of investigations can easily become indicted targets — and expressed concern that the special prosecutor was baiting Trump into an interview that could put the president in legal peril.


Under Justice Department guidelines (https://www.justice.gov/usam/usam-9-11000-grand-jury#9-11.151), a subject of an investigation is a person whose conduct falls within the scope of a grand jury’s investigation. A target is a person for which there is substantial evidence linking him or her to a crime.A subject could become a target with his or her own testimony, legal experts warn.

AaronY
04-03-2018, 07:52 PM
You know DJohn's got like a dual monitor setup sitting home scrolling the multiple "muh russia!" Twitter feeds like that guy watching the robot codes in the matrix movie

Reck
04-03-2018, 07:58 PM
Mueller told Trump’s attorneys the president remains under investigation but is not currently a criminal target

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/mueller-told-trumps-attorneys-the-president-remains-under-investigation-but-is-not-currently-a-criminal-target/2018/04/03/d7832cf0-36c1-11e8-acd5-35eac230e514_story.html?utm_term=.471d82743654&__twitter_impression=true

https://media0.giphy.com/media/UiBmJv6Hh6FfW/200w.gif

Anonymous sources good now. :lol

Who and why is Mueller looking at for obstruction of justice?

That in itself makes Trump a target. :lol TSA the gizz rag.

TSA
04-03-2018, 08:02 PM
Anonymous sources good now. :lol

Who and why is Mueller looking at for obstruction of justice?

That in itself makes Trump a target. :lol TSA the gizz rag.

Quotes an article explaining the difference between a subject and a target, immediately proves he doesn’t know the difference between a subject and a target.

:lol Reck the forum dunce

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 08:06 PM
Anonymous sources good now. :lol

Who and why is Mueller looking at for obstruction of justice?

That in itself makes Trump a target. :lol TSA the gizz rag.

Mueller hitting these niggas with the head fake.

Reck
04-03-2018, 08:08 PM
Quotes an article explaining the difference between a subject and a target, immediately proves he doesn’t know the difference between a subject and a target.

:lol Reck the forum dunce

No, I'm quoting you and how wrong you are.

:lol TSA saw article title and came buckets
:lol Said article goes on to explain Mueller is preparing a potential explosive report that would squarely make him a target.

981335831729332229

981336122784612352

:lol TSA celebrating early.
https://78.media.tumblr.com/05e33705206198d4c97eb7082f8e5cb9/tumblr_n3241gSBXO1rtod8xo1_400.gif

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 08:12 PM
981329174865547264

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 08:13 PM
981330176859664384
Lordy TSA spiking the football way too early :lol

Blake
04-03-2018, 08:19 PM
Show us on the doll where Chuck touched you.

I haven't posted a Woolery tweet in a long time :lol

My funny bone.

You posted enough of his tweets to pay for a few more weeks of laughing at you for it

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 08:20 PM
981340031959949313

Chris
04-03-2018, 08:23 PM
Quotes an article explaining the difference between a subject and a target, immediately proves he doesn’t know the difference between a subject and a target.

:lol Reck the forum dunce

Poor fella :lol

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 08:24 PM
Quotes an article explaining the difference between a subject and a target, immediately proves he doesn’t know the difference between a subject and a target.

:lol Reck the forum dunce
Do you understand the difference?

Reck
04-03-2018, 08:27 PM
Poor fella :lol

:lol Chris hitching his ride to pizzagate boy.

Straight outta options. :lol

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 08:29 PM
Yeah looks like TSA did not read that whole article.

TSA
04-03-2018, 08:31 PM
No, I'm quoting you and how wrong you are.

:lol TSA saw article title and came buckets
:lol Said article goes on to explain Mueller is preparing a potential explosive report that would squarely make him a target.

981335831729332229

981336122784612352

:lol TSA celebrating early.
https://78.media.tumblr.com/05e33705206198d4c97eb7082f8e5cb9/tumblr_n3241gSBXO1rtod8xo1_400.gif

Thank you for confirming he is currently not a target

:lol Reck the forum dunce

TSA
04-03-2018, 08:33 PM
Do you understand the difference?

Yes, he is currently just a subject and not a target of a criminal investigation. Do you disagree with that?

Chris
04-03-2018, 08:33 PM
:lmao

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 08:36 PM
Yes, he is currently just a subject and not a target of a criminal investigation. Do you disagree with that?

Never said I disagreed with that. Do you realize once Mueller decides to charge him, he is a target? He can be a target by the end of the interview :lol

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 08:36 PM
981343208700547072
LOL

TSA
04-03-2018, 08:37 PM
981340031959949313

Actually it’s a counterintelligence investigation of which Trump is a subject.

TSA
04-03-2018, 08:39 PM
Never said I disagreed with that.might want to let your buddy know

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 08:42 PM
might want to let your buddy know

Do you acknowledge he can quickly become a target?

TSA
04-03-2018, 08:42 PM
Never said I disagreed with that. Do you realize once Mueller decides to charge him, he is a target? He can be a target by the end of the interview :lol

Mueller doesn’t get to decide to charge him. Yeah looks like djohn read that whole 1 sentence tweet he posted :lol

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 08:42 PM
981341318952734721
:lol

TSA
04-03-2018, 08:44 PM
Do you acknowledge he can quickly become a target?

Sure.

Do you acknowledge Ale is clueless and Asha shit on your claim?

TSA
04-03-2018, 08:46 PM
981341318952734721
:lol

Except he’s not the subject of a criminal investigation.


You know DJohn's got like a dual monitor setup sitting home scrolling the multiple "muh russia!" Twitter feeds like that guy watching the robot codes in the matrix movie

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 08:46 PM
Mueller doesn’t get to decide to charge him. Yeah looks like djohn read that whole 1 sentence tweet he posted :lol

:lmao so who would hand down the indictment?

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 08:48 PM
Except he’s not the subject of a criminal investigation.

You stupid motherfucker :lol

Mueller told his attorneys Trump remains under criminal investigation. Which means he is currently a subject and not target :lmao

TSA
04-03-2018, 08:49 PM
:lmao so who would hand down the indictment?

Rosenstein

Reck
04-03-2018, 08:51 PM
Yes, he is currently just a subject and not a target of a criminal investigation. Do you disagree with that?

That's what you're hanging your hopes on? A subject, not a target?

They are interchangeable.

Was Hillary a target or just a subject when she was under FBI investigation which Trump clearly is?

TSA
04-03-2018, 08:53 PM
You stupid motherfucker :lol

Mueller told his attorneys Trump remains under criminal investigation. Which means he is currently a subject and not target :lmao

He’s not under criminal investigation, it’s a counterintelligence investigation; it is not a judicial proceeding or a criminal investigation.

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 08:57 PM
He’s not under criminal investigation, it’s a counterintelligence investigation; it is not a judicial proceeding or a criminal investigation.

So the Russia probe is not a criminal investigation? You are stupid beyond belief.

TSA
04-03-2018, 08:57 PM
That's what you're hanging your hopes on? A subject, not a target?

They are interchangeable.

Was Hillary a target or just a subject when she was under FBI investigation which Trump clearly is?

“they are interchangeable”
:rollin

TSA
04-03-2018, 09:08 PM
So the Russia probe is not a criminal investigation? You are stupid beyond belief.

The Russia probe is not a criminal investigation.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download

Reck
04-03-2018, 09:11 PM
I haven't seen anyone in so much denial as TSA in my life.

TSA motto in life is: Be wrong all the time, be a conspiratard, be a goalpost mover on a daily basis

:lmao

TSA
04-03-2018, 09:12 PM
tight race for the forum dunce right now. Reck still has the lead but djohn giving him a run for his money

TSA
04-03-2018, 09:13 PM
I haven't seen anyone in so much denial as TSA in my life.

TSA motto in life is: Be wrong all the time, be a conspiratard, be a goalpost mover on a daily basis

:lmao

“they are interchangeable”
:rollin

TSA
04-03-2018, 09:13 PM
And Reck takes the lead!

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 09:24 PM
The Russia probe is not a criminal investigation.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download

so thats why Mueller his charging people with crimes? Again. You are stupid.

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 09:25 PM
Yes, he is currently just a subject and not a target of a criminal investigation. Do you disagree with that?

So right here you acknowledge he is a subject of a criminal investigation.

Reck
04-03-2018, 09:29 PM
The Russia probe is not a criminal investigation.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download

Are you the product of inbreeding or does stupid come in command?

Do people get indicted and sent to jail because they're not under criminal investigation?

Of course the Russia probe is a criminal investigation. There are people that have been indicted and now in jail because of it.

Chris
04-03-2018, 09:30 PM
That's what you're hanging your hopes on? A subject, not a target?

They are interchangeable.

Was Hillary a target or just a subject when she was under FBI investigation which Trump clearly is?

Hillary is still under investigation. No Comey there to make it a matter this time. No HQ special this time.

Reck
04-03-2018, 09:32 PM
Hillary is still under investigation. No Comey there to make it a matter this time. No HQ special this time.

:lmao

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 09:33 PM
Hillary is still under investigation. No Comey there to make it a matter this time. No HQ special this time.

Comey is a Republican, Chris. I don't think he donated to the Clinton foundation. That was Donald.

TSA
04-03-2018, 09:38 PM
Are you the product of inbreeding or does stupid come in command?

Do people get indicted and sent to jail because they're not under criminal investigation?

Of course the Russia probe is a criminal investigation. There are people that have been indicted and now in jail because of it.

The Russia probe is not a criminal investigation. People can be indicted and sent to jail from counterintelligence investigations. We just witnessed it happen with van see Zwaan.

TSA
04-03-2018, 09:44 PM
We are opening a criminal investigation, we don’t know what the crimes were or who committed them :rollin

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 09:45 PM
We are opening a criminal investigation, we don’t know what the crimes were or who committed them :rollin

TSA. Wanna make a bet right here and now that it is a criminal investigation?

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 09:48 PM
TSA. Wanna make a bet right here and now that it is a criminal investigation?
TSA

Reck
04-03-2018, 09:50 PM
TSA (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640)

Good luck with him answering any of your questions. He's avoided like 3 of mine in a row. :lol

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 09:51 PM
Good luck with him answering any of your questions. He's avoided like 3 of mine in a row. :lol

He doesn't want this bet. He will be off this board tonight if he accepts.

TSA
04-03-2018, 09:54 PM
TSA. Wanna make a bet right here and now that it is a criminal investigation?

There’s nothing to bet on. It’s a counterintelligence investigation.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 09:55 PM
There’s nothing to bet on. It’s a counterintelligence investigation.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download

That is not what I asked you. If you are so sure, then lets bet. Ill prove it is a criminal investigation.

Chris
04-03-2018, 10:11 PM
Just tell him it's a criminal investigation so he can keep up his hard on for Robert Mueller :lol

TSA
04-03-2018, 10:12 PM
That is not what I asked you. If you are so sure, then lets bet. Ill prove it is a criminal investigation.

And I just told you there is nothing to bet on. You are free to prove whatever you like.

TSA
04-03-2018, 10:13 PM
Just tell him it's a criminal investigation so he can keep up his hard on for Robert Mueller :lol

Who do you think is going to take the results of this investigation the hardest?
djohn
Pavlov
RandomGuy

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 10:16 PM
And I just told you there is nothing to bet on. You are free to prove whatever you like.

pussy

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 10:17 PM
The special counsel’s office waved off the transition team’s complaint.

“When we have obtained emails in the course of our ongoing criminal investigation, we have secured either the account owner’s consent or appropriate criminal process,” said Peter Carr, spokesman for the special counsel’s office.

The GSA did not respond immediately to a request for comment.

Hey TSA. Ongoing CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. :lmao

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 10:18 PM
The special counsel’s office waved off the transition team’s complaint.

“When we have obtained emails in the course of our ongoing criminal investigation, we have secured either the account owner’s consent or appropriate criminal process,” said Peter Carr, spokesman for the special counsel’s office.

The GSA did not respond immediately to a request for comment.

Hey TSA. Ongoing CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. :lmao
https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKBN1EA0QH

TSA, Sit down, bitch.

boutons_deux
04-03-2018, 10:25 PM
Not YET a criminal target

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 10:29 PM
Not YET a criminal target

Yes. Criminal investigation but a subject as of now. That can and will change.

TSA
04-03-2018, 10:29 PM
The special counsel’s office waved off the transition team’s complaint.

“When we have obtained emails in the course of our ongoing criminal investigation, we have secured either the account owner’s consent or appropriate criminal process,” said Peter Carr, spokesman for the special counsel’s office.

The GSA did not respond immediately to a request for comment.

Hey TSA. Ongoing CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. :lmao

Sorry djohn. The Russia probe is a counterintelligence investigation.

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 10:32 PM
Sorry djohn. The Russia probe is a counterintelligence investigation.

Sorry TSA. Special Counsel office directly called it a criminal investigation.

Reck
04-03-2018, 10:35 PM
Sorry djohn. The Russia probe is a counterintelligence investigation.

So you are saying you know more than the guy who gets direct statements from the guy conducting the investigation? Neat.

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 10:35 PM
So you are saying you know more than the guy who gets direct statements from the guy conducting the investigation? Neat.

:lmao

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 11:06 PM
What's great about all of this. Trump either now has to sit with Mueller or face a grand jury. Lordy!

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohhwmzJ6YYZP6JVKw/giphy.gif

TSA
04-03-2018, 11:07 PM
Sorry TSA. Special Counsel office directly called it a criminal investigation.

It doesn’t matter what the spokesman calls it, it matters what Rosenstein said when he appointed Mueller. I keep linking it and you ignore it. If it was a criminal investigation Mueller would not have the authority to investigate any other matters that arose and any other matters within the scope.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download

Criminal investigations start with a crime and person/persons accused of the crime. You are actually happy its a counterintelligence investigation you just didn’t know that’s why Mueller has free reign.

Chris
04-03-2018, 11:10 PM
Who do you think is going to take the results of this investigation the hardest?
djohn
Pavlov
RandomGuy

I'd love to say Pavlov, but I think djohn is a sure fire pick :lol

Chris
04-03-2018, 11:13 PM
What's great about all of this. Trump either now has to sit with Mueller or face a grand jury. Lordy!

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohhwmzJ6YYZP6JVKw/giphy.gif

Delusional :lol

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 11:15 PM
It doesn’t matter what the spokesman calls it, it matters what Rosenstein said when he appointed Mueller. I keep linking it and you ignore it. If it was a criminal investigation Mueller would not have the authority to investigate any other matters that arose and any other matters within the scope.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download

Criminal investigations start with a crime and person/persons accused of the crime. You are actually happy its a counterintelligence investigation you just didn’t know that’s why Mueller has free reign.
Mueller's own office called it a criminal investigation. Why? Because as Special Counsel, Mueller has the power and authority to bring criminal charges which he has done. Obstruction of justice is a crime, which Mueller is investigation Trump for. You are an eternal idiot.

Chris
04-03-2018, 11:18 PM
So is Roger Stone in the clear now that Mueller is moving on to Trump?

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 11:24 PM
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TSA another L.

Reck
04-03-2018, 11:30 PM
So is Roger Stone in the clear now that Mueller is moving on to Trump?

Chris doesn't know wha multi tasking is. :lol

HE'S INVESTIGATING TRUMP. HOW CAN HE POSSIBLY ALSO BE LOOKING INTO OTHER MATTERS? MY BRAIN!

djohn2oo8
04-03-2018, 11:37 PM
Chris doesn't know wha multi tasking is. :lol

HE'S INVESTIGATING TRUMP. HOW CAN HE POSSIBLY ALSO BE LOOKING INTO OTHER MATTERS? MY BRAIN!

:lol

TSA
04-03-2018, 11:48 PM
865295160728485888
TSA another L.

:lol impression
:lol takeaway
:lol may be
:lol seems
:lol didn’t get to ask


:lol and Graham good now

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 12:45 AM
Is TSA trying to argue that it's better for the President of the United States to be the subject of a federal counterintelligence investigation?

lol

Chris
04-04-2018, 12:54 AM
Is TSA trying to argue that it's better for the President of the United States to be the subject of a federal counterintelligence investigation?

lol

Do you think Mueller is going to crack Stone?

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 12:55 AM
Do you think Mueller is going to crack Stone?I don't know.

What is your definition of McCarthyism.

Chris
04-04-2018, 01:00 AM
I don't know.

What is your definition of McCarthyism.

Merriam-Webster is good enough for me.

What is your definition of Russian collusion?

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 01:04 AM
Merriam-Webster is good enough for me.Post it and show how it applies to Mueller's investigation of Stone.


What is your definition of Russian collusion?A candidate's son, son-in-law and campaign manager meeting with Russians who claim to have "documents and information that would incriminate" that candidate's opponent.

Just a hypothetical example.

Chris
04-04-2018, 01:07 AM
Post it and show how it applies to Mueller's investigation of Stone.

That's for you to figure out.


A candidate's son, son-in-law and campaign manager meeting with Russians who claim to have "documents and information that would incriminate" that candidate's opponent.

Just a hypothetical example.

What should they be charged with?

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 01:12 AM
That's for you to figure out.I accept your white flag.


What should they be charged with?Dunno. Totally worth investigating though. Not McCarthyism in the least. Only a complete idiot would try to make that comparison.

Chris
04-04-2018, 01:17 AM
I accept your white flag.

Dunno. Totally worth investigating though. Not McCarthyism in the least. Only a complete idiot would try to make that comparison.

Why is it worth investigating if no crime was committed? (never compared your hypothetical to McCarthyism btw :tu only an idiot would fabricate that comparison. Oops!)

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 01:19 AM
Why is it worth investigating if no crime was committed?Who said no crime was committed?
(never compared your hypothetical to McCarthyism btw :tu only an idiot would fabricate that comparison. Oops!)So you're not accusing Mueller of McCarthyism anymore?

:lol Good boy.

Chris
04-04-2018, 01:22 AM
Who said no crime was committed?So you're not accusing Mueller of McCarthyism anymore?

:lol Good boy.

You said you don't know what the charges are but it's totally worth investigating. Why?

boutons_deux
04-04-2018, 01:22 AM
Fox News’s Chris Stirewalt: If Trump Wants The Russia Probe to End, He Should Sit Down With Mueller


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-newss-chris-stirewalt-if-trump-wants-the-russia-probe-to-end-he-should-sit-down-with-mueller/

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 01:22 AM
You said you don't know what the charges are but it's totally worth investigating. Why?Because a candidate's son, son-in-law and campaign manager met with Russians who claimed to have "documents and information that would incriminate" that candidate's opponent.

Chris
04-04-2018, 01:25 AM
Because a candidate's son, son-in-law and campaign manager met with Russians who claimed to have "documents and information that would incriminate" that candidate's opponent.

What's the crime there? Be specific please.

boutons_deux
04-04-2018, 01:25 AM
Jeff Sessions is blatantly violating his Mueller investigation recusal — and corporate media has barely noticed

Attorney General Jeff Sessions can’t stop meddling in matters that violate his recusal for conflict of interest.

I previously covered how Sessions’ involvement (https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/jeff-sessions-keeps-violating-his-recusal-investigations-trump-campaign-experts) in the firing of former FBI Director James Comey and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe appears to have violated his pledge to recuse himself from all Justice Department matters related to the 2016 campaign.

Now, Sessions announced that he’s assigned a prosecutor (https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4426772/Jeff-Sessions-Letter-Rejecting-Second-Special.pdf) to specifically investigate the FBI’s conduct during the campaign in what would appear to be another clear violation of his recusal.

The reason Republican lawmakers want a special counsel to investigate the FBI is that

it would help make the case that the allegations against the bureau are at least as serious the allegations against the Trump team.

This is nothing short of gratuitous politicization of law enforcement.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/jeff-sessions-blatantly-violating-mueller-investigation-recusal-corporate-media-barely-noticed/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 01:29 AM
What's the crime there? Be specific please.The crime was the hacking and information theft and there could definitely be more crimes surrounding that.

Specifically.

You can't do anything about it.

It's happening.

boutons_deux
04-04-2018, 10:49 AM
one of Trash's many partners in crime

Former Trump Biz Associate Felix Sater Meeting With Senate Intel Panel

Sater’s work for the Trump Organization and alleged involvement in a pitch for a “peace plan” between Ukraine and Russia have made him a figure in the Russia probe.

He has already spoken to the House Intelligence Committee and special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.

He worked for the Trump Organization to help fund the Trump SoHo building and tried to land a deal (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/felix-sater-man-of-mystery) for a Trump building in Moscow.

He went on to serve as an adviser to Trump’s presidential campaign in 2015.

In 2017, Sater sent (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/felix-sater-andrii-artemenko-ukraine-energy-trading-peace-plan) a “peace plan” for Ukraine and Russia to longtime Trump lawyer Michael Cohen

while he was working with a Ukrainian politician on an energy trading deal.

Cohen then passed along (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-russia.html) the Russia-friendly plan to the Trump White House.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/felix-sater-senate-intelligence-committee?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/felix-sater-senate-intelligence-committee?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29)

Of course, the Senate Repugs won't ask any real questions or seek any real information.

Blake
04-04-2018, 10:57 AM
Why is it worth investigating if no crime was committed?

Smh derp

spurraider21
04-04-2018, 12:37 PM
Why is it worth investigating if no crime was committed?
it would be a really weird system if you have a criminal conviction before being investigated for said crime

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 12:41 PM
981583968465244160
lol

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 12:43 PM
981579122412523525

spurraider21
04-04-2018, 12:50 PM
981583968465244160
lol
granted, this civil lawsuit is separate from the criminal proceedings, but in that one, manafort's motion to dismiss was along the same grounds, and the mueller opposition brief i linked to a few pages ago basically confirms what the judge said here. so that motion is probably dead in the water, too.

RandomGuy
04-04-2018, 12:58 PM
granted, this civil lawsuit is separate from the criminal proceedings, but in that one, manafort's motion to dismiss was along the same grounds, and the mueller opposition brief i linked to a few pages ago basically confirms what the judge said here. so that motion is probably dead in the water, too.

Manafort's motion got spanked. HARD.

RandomGuy
04-04-2018, 12:59 PM
981583968465244160
lol

Conservatives fail sooooo badly when they get into courts and actually have to meet standards of evidence. Propaganda talking points fail so hard, its funny to watch.

boutons_deux
04-04-2018, 01:04 PM
The Report that Trump Is Not a Target of the Mueller Probe Is Actually Terrible News for the President

This would imply that Mueller does not yet see substantial evidence linking Trump to a crime, which

implies that he’s unlikely to find such evidence in an obstruction probe that appears to be winding down.

In actuality, though, it implies no such thing.

As University of Missouri School of Law professor Frank Bowman notes, that is not all that the DOJ guidelines say about the definition of a “target.”

The full DOJ definition also offers that a target is someone “who, in the judgment of the prosecutor, is a putative defendant.”

This is relevant, because current Department of Justice guidelines say that a sitting president cannot be indicted,

which means that according to these guidelines he cannot technically be a putative defendant—at least not while in office.

“The ‘not a target’ designation doesn’t convey much of real substance concerning Mueller’s assessment of the current evidence against Trump,” Bowman told me over email.

“If Mueller really said Trump is not a ‘target,’ all he may be saying is that,

while there is substantial evidence linking him to a crime,

DOJ policy precludes making him an actual indicted ‘defendant.’”

The upshot is that his “subject” versus “target” designation could be relatively meaningless given the unusual circumstances.

It might just mean that Mueller accepts the current DOJ guidance on whether or not a sitting president should be indicted,

which would seem to be an in character, small “c” conservative approach.

What would be consequential, however, is the news that

Mueller is seeking to issue a report on whether Trump obstructed justice or not. From the Post:

“They’ve said they want to write a report on this — to answer the public’s questions — and they need the president’s interview as the last step,” one person familiar with the discussions said of Mueller’s team.


there has long been a significant amount of public evidence that Trump obstructed justice (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/07/the_obstruction_of_justice_case_against_trump_is_a lready_a_slam_dunk.html).

That Mueller wants to issue a public report is

an indication that he feels some sort of legal conclusion about the evidence in the case is warranted.

It’s generally DOJ protocol to not issue a full public finding in cases where someone has been exonerated ( except for Hillary! :lol )



Additionally, if Mueller does accept the DOJ guidance that precludes him from recommending indictment,



he would have to get permission from Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to issue a public report on his findings.


That he would seek such a dramatic step sounds like more terrible news for Trump.


If Mueller ultimately were to? issue a finding that the president engaged in a conspiracy to obstruct justice but could not be indicted because of DOJ guidelines,


then the issue would be kicked to Congress

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/the-report-that-trump-is-not-a-target-of-the-mueller-probe-is-actually-terrible-news-for-him.html

RandomGuy
04-04-2018, 01:11 PM
Yes. Criminal investigation but a subject as of now. That can and will change.

It is easier to compel a subject of an investigation to testify than a target, given the analysis I have seen.

RandomGuy
04-04-2018, 01:13 PM
If Mueller ultimately were to? issue a finding that the president engaged in a conspiracy to obstruct justice but could not be indicted because of DOJ guidelines, then the issue would be kicked to Congress

... in the middle of a blue wave election cycle.

Summer is going to get HOT.

Chris
04-04-2018, 01:46 PM
it would be a really weird system if you have a criminal conviction before being investigated for said crime

So we just investigate everything then looking for crimes? ... and you're a lawyer?? :lmao

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 01:47 PM
So we just investigate everything then looking for crimes? ... and you're a lawyer?? :lmao:lol you've been told what the crime was.

TSA
04-04-2018, 01:51 PM
981571889251405824

981572232421040128

981572402051272704

981577235596500992

:rollin

TSA
04-04-2018, 01:53 PM
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Pavlov
04-04-2018, 01:54 PM
lol so many *ding*s

Why is Trump afraid of an interview?

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 01:57 PM
TSA seems nervous :lmao

TSA
04-04-2018, 02:16 PM
lol so many *ding*s

Why is Trump afraid of an interview?

Where did you get that from? Everything I’ve read says the opposite.

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 02:17 PM
Where did you get that from? Everything I’ve read says the opposite.Oh, well he should go straight to grand jury testimony.

Nothing to fear, right?

TSA
04-04-2018, 02:18 PM
Oh, well he should go straight to grand jury testimony.

Nothing to fear, right?

Where did you read Trump was afraid of an interview?

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 02:20 PM
Where did you read Trump was afraid of an interview?What's the delay then?

If he's eager to answer any question at any time without counsel present, let's go.

TSA
04-04-2018, 02:27 PM
What's the delay then?

If he's eager to answer any question at any time without counsel present, let's go.

Where did you read Trump was afraid of an interview?

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 02:27 PM
Where did you read Trump was afraid of an interview?

We know his lawyers are afraid.

spurraider21
04-04-2018, 02:29 PM
Where did you read Trump was afraid of an interview?
it's inferred from his actions. people dont always give you a quote for everything.

clambake
04-04-2018, 02:30 PM
What's the delay then?

If he's eager to answer any question at any time without counsel present, let's go.

chop chop!

quit stalling

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 02:30 PM
Where did you read Trump was afraid of an interview?In every article where he is shown to be following the advice of his counsel regarding an interview.

Are you saying he isn't currently following the advice of his counsel regarding an interview?

Yes or no.

TSA
04-04-2018, 02:36 PM
it's inferred from his actions. people dont always give you a quote for everything.

Trump gives quotes saying the exact opposite.

TSA
04-04-2018, 02:37 PM
In every article where he is shown to be following the advice of his counsel regarding an interview.

Are you saying he isn't currently following the advice of his counsel regarding an interview?

Yes or no.

Following the advice of his counsel makes him afraid?

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 02:40 PM
Following the advice of his counsel makes him afraid?

His lawyers told him not to do it. Why shouldn't he do it if there is nothing to hide?

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 02:42 PM
Trump gives quotes saying the exact opposite.So what's the holdup?

Why doesn't he just sit down with Mueller and on camera under oath without counsel present? He could do it on Hannity.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 02:45 PM
CROFL Sarah Sanders dodging questions about Trump sitting down for an interview

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 02:47 PM
981616046841921536
Watch this space

TSA
04-04-2018, 03:06 PM
So what's the holdup?

Why doesn't he just sit down with Mueller and on camera under oath without counsel present? He could do it on Hannity.

Has Mueller even asked him to sit down for an interview?

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 03:14 PM
Has Mueller even asked him to sit down for an interview?Formally, I don't know. I do know Trump's lawyers preemptively started negotiating what Trump could do instead of an interview months ago.

Why hasn't Fearless Leader Dennison ordered them to stop?

Blake
04-04-2018, 03:25 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/politics/donald-trump-mueller-interview/index.html

TSA
04-04-2018, 03:35 PM
Formally, I don't know. I do know Trump's lawyers preemptively started negotiating what Trump could do instead of an interview months ago.

Why hasn't Fearless Leader Dennison ordered them to stop?

You claim Trump is afraid of an interview with Mueller even though he said he looks forward to it and you claim Trump is avoiding an interview with Mueller even though you admit you don't even know if Mueller has requested an interview :lol

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 03:37 PM
You claim Trump is afraid of an interview with Mueller even though he said he looks forward to it and you claim Trump is avoiding an interview with Mueller even though you admit you don't even know if Mueller has requested an interview :lolDodge #1.

I do know Trump's lawyers preemptively started negotiating what Trump could do instead of an interview months ago.

Why hasn't Fearless Leader Dennison ordered them to stop?

TSA
04-04-2018, 03:41 PM
Dodge #1.

I do know Trump's lawyers preemptively started negotiating what Trump could do instead of an interview months ago.

Why hasn't Fearless Leader Dennison ordered them to stop?

If you want to have a discussion and have your questions answered you need to start being more honest, this is becoming a troubling pattern with you lately.

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 03:45 PM
If you want to have a discussion and have your questions answered you need to start being more honest, this is becoming a troubling pattern with you lately.Dodge #2.

I do know Trump's lawyers preemptively started negotiating what Trump could do instead of an interview months ago.

Why hasn't Fearless Leader Dennison ordered them to stop?

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 03:50 PM
Following the advice of his counsel makes him afraid?When the counsel's advice is to do everything possible to avoid the kind of interview you claim he wants and to let them negotiate avoiding it -- yes, that can easily be inferred.

boutons_deux
04-04-2018, 03:56 PM
"Following the advice of his counsel makes him afraid?''

proves he's delirious insane, stupid, ignorant, thinking he and his 3rd rate lawyers can even get on the same field with Mueller's team.

Pavlov
04-04-2018, 04:00 PM
981579122412523525MCCARTHYISM!

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 04:28 PM
981641359714070528

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 04:29 PM
981643859095642113

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 04:48 PM
981643859095642113
TSA. Interesting question, what say you?

TSA
04-04-2018, 05:06 PM
TSA. Interesting question, what say you?

I don't find that to be an interesting question as it's what I would expect investigators investigating Russians to ask. I'm more interested in why you quoted yourself to ask me a question. Who the fuck does that and why?

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 05:08 PM
I don't find that to be an interesting question as it's what I would expect investigators investigating Russians to ask. I'm more interested in why you quoted yourself to ask me a question. Who the fuck does that and why?

Rut Roh. TSA nervous and agitated. Mueller following the money.

RandomGuy
04-04-2018, 05:10 PM
Has Mueller even asked him to sit down for an interview?

Roger Stone’s Hotmail Account Dined With Your Mom Last Night

Read more at https://wonkette.com/632189/roger-stones-hotmail-account-dined-with-your-mom-last-night#mRHjc3eCHTyeXjgk.99

TSA
04-04-2018, 05:10 PM
Here is something that is actually interesting.

All Russiagate Roads Lead To London As Evidence Emerges Of Joseph Mifsud’s Links To UK Intelligence

Over the last few months, Professor Joseph Mifsud has become a feather in the cap for those pushing the Trump-Russia narrative. He is characterized as a “Russian” intelligence asset in mainstream press, despite his declarations to the contrary. However, evidence has surfaced that suggests Mifsud was anything but a Russian spy, and may have actually worked for British intelligence. This new evidence culminates in the ground-breaking conclusion that the UK and its intelligence apparatus may be responsible for the invention of key pillars of the Trump-Russia scandal. If true, this would essentially turn the entire RussiaGate debacle on its head.

To give an idea of the scope of this report, a few central points showing the UK connections with the central pillars of the Trump-Russia claims are included here, in the order of discussion in this article:

Mifsud allegedly discussed that Russia has ‘dirt’ on Clinton in the form of ‘thousands of emails’ with George Papadopoulos in London in April 2016.
The following month, Papadopoulos spoke with Alexander Downer, Australia’s ambassador to the UK, about the alleged Russian dirt on Clinton while they were drinking at a swanky Kensington bar, according to The Times. In late July 2016, Downer shared his tip with Australian intelligence officials who forwarded it to the FBI.
Robert Goldstone, a key figure in the ‘Trump Tower’ part of the RussiaGate narrative, sent Donald Trump Jr. an email claiming Russia wanted to help the Trump campaign. He is a British music promoter.
Christopher Steele, ex-MI6, who worked as an MI6 agent in Moscow until 1993 and ran the Russia desk at MI6 HQ in London between 2006 and 2009. He produced the totally unsubstantiated ‘Steele Dossier’ of Trump-Russia allegations, with funding from the Clinton campaign and the DNC.
Robert Hannigan, the head of British spy agency GCHQ, flew to Washington DC to share ‘director-to-director’ level intelligence with then-CIA Chief John Brennan.

Each of these strands of UK-tied elements of the Russiagate narrative can be substantially dismantled on close inspection. This untangling process leads to the surprising conclusion that UK intelligence services fabricated evidence of collusion in order to create the appearance of a Trump-Russia connection.

This trend begins with Joseph Mifsud, a Maltese scholar with an eclectic academic history who Quartz described as an “enigma,” while legacy press has enthusiastically characterized him as a central personality in the Trump-Russia scandal. The New York Times described Mifsud as an “enthusiastic promoter of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia”, citing his regular involvement in the annual meetings of the Valdai Discussion Club, a Russian-based think-tank, as well as three short articles he wrote in support of Russian policies.

Mifsud strongly denied claims that he was associated with Russian intelligence, telling Italian newspaper Repubblica that he was a member of the European Council on Foreign Relations and the Clinton Foundation, adding that his political outlook was “left-leaning.” Last month, Slate reported Mifsud had ‘disappeared’, as did some of the other figures linking the UK to the Trump-Russia scandal. This aspect will be discussed in more detail below.

To contextualize Mifsud’s eclectic academic career in terms of intelligence service, it is helpful to note that research undertaken by this author and Suzie Dawson as part of the Decipher You project has repeatedly shown the close ties – an outright merger in many cases – between the intelligence community and academia. This enmeshment also takes place with think-tanks, NGOs, and in the corporate sphere. In this light, Mifsud’s brand of ‘scholarship’ becomes far less mysterious.

Mifsud’s alleged links to Russian intelligence are summarily debunked by his close working relationship with Claire Smith, a major figure in the upper echelons of British intelligence. A number of Twitter users recently observed that Joseph Mifsud had been photographed standing next to Claire Smith of the UK Joint Intelligence Committee at Mifsud’s LINK campus in Rome. Newsmax and Buzzfeed later reported that the professor’s name and biography had been removed from the campus’ website, writing that the mysterious removal took place after Mifsud had served the institution for “years.”

WikiLeaks Editor-in-Chief Julian Assange likewise noted the connection between Mifsud and Smith in a Twitter thread, additionally pointing out his connections with Saudi intelligence: “[Mifsud] and Claire Smith of the UK Joint Intelligence Committee and eight-year member of the UK Security Vetting panel both trained Italian security services at the Link University in Rome and appear to both be present in this [photo].”

The photograph in question originated on Geodiplomatics.com, where it specified that Joseph Mifsud is indeed standing next to Claire Smith, who was attending a: “…Training program on International Security which was organised by Link Campus University and London Academy of Diplomacy.” The event is listed as taking place in October, 2012. This is highly significant for a number of reasons.

First, the training program Smith attended with high-ranking members of the Italian military was organized by the London Academy of Diplomacy, where Jospeh Mifsud served as Director, as noted by The Washington Post. That Claire Smith was training military and law enforcement officials alongside Mifsud in 2012 during her tenure as a member of the UK Cabinet Office Security Vetting Appeals Panel, which oversees the vetting process for UK intelligence placement, strongly suggests that Mifsud has been incorrectly characterized as a Russian intelligence asset. It is extremely unlikely that Claire Smith’s role in vetting UK intelligence personnel would lead to her accidentally working with a Russian agent.

The connection between Mifsud and Smith does not end at bumped elbows in a photograph. Mifsud’s LinkedIn profile lists the University of Stirling as a place of occupation in connection with his service as Director of the London Academy of Diplomacy (LAD), where Claire Smith served as a visiting professor from 2013-2014 according to her LinkedIn profile. This adds yet another verifiable connection between a man who is at the center of already-flimsy Trump-Russia allegations and a high-ranking British intelligence figure.

Claire Smith also hosted a seminar titled “Making Sense of Intelligence” at the University of Stirling. The event registration form describes her career, including her service as Deputy Chief of Assessments Staff in the Cabinet Office, as a member of the UK Joint Intelligence Committee and her completion of an eight-year term as a member of the UK Security Vetting and Appeals Panel.

A particularly compelling factor indicating that Mifsud’s working relationship with Claire Smith suggests his direct connection with UK intelligence is Smith’s membership of the UK’s Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC), a supervisory body overseeing all UK intelligence agencies. The JIC is part of the Cabinet Office and reports directly to the Prime Minister. The Committee also sets the collection and analysis priorities for all of the agencies it supervises. Claire Smith also served as a member of the UK’s Cabinet Office.

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In summary, Mifsud’s appearance with Claire Smith at the LINK campus, in addition to her discussion on intelligence at yet another university where Mifsud was also employed, as well as her long-standing role in UK intelligence vetting and her position as a member of the UK Joint Intelligence Committee, would suggest that the roving scholar is not a Russian agent, but is actually a UK intelligence asset. The possibility that such a high-ranking member of this extremely powerful intelligence supervisory group was photographed standing next to a “Russian” asset unknowingly is patently absurd. This finding knocks the first pillar out from under the edifice of the Trump-Russia allegations. It provides an initial suggestion of the UK’s involvement in procuring the ‘evidence’ that fueled the debacle.

Claire Smith is not the only British official associated with Mifsud. He was a speaker at an event by the Central European Initiative alongside former British diplomat Charles Crawford, whose postings included Moscow, Sarajevo, Belgrade and Warsaw. Crawford is listed as a visiting Professor with the same London Academy of Diplomacy (LAD) where Mifsud served as Director, associated with Stirling University. This adds more weight to the idea that Mifsud is a familiar figure among the upper echelons of the UK intelligence and foreign policy establishment.

The final nail in the coffin of the theory that Mifsud is a Russian spy is this photograph of Mifsud standing next to Boris Johnson, the UK Foreign Secretary, as reported by The Guardian. The photograph, taken in October 2017 – nearly a full year after the US Presidential election and nine months after Mifsud’s name appeared in newspaper headlines worldwide as allegedly involved in Russian meddling in that election – is either highly embarrassing for the hapless Mr Johnson, or it’s not, because Joseph Mifsud is actually a valued and security-vetted asset to the United Kingdom.

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Another aspect of the RussiaGate claims tied to the UK includes the reported conversation between George Papadopoulos and Alexander Downer, Australia’s High Commissioner to the UK who was based in London. The pair reportedly spoke about the alleged Russian ‘dirt’ on Hillary Clinton while they were drinking at a swanky bar in London. According to Lifezette, Downer is closely tied with The Clinton Foundation via his role in securing $25 million in aid from his country to help the Clinton Foundation fight AIDS.

He is also a member of the advisory board of London-based Hakluyt & Co, an opposition research and intelligence firm set up in 1995 by three former UK intelligence officials and described as “a retirement home for ex-MI6 [British foreign intelligence] officers, but it now also recruits from the worlds of management consultancy and banking”. Whereas opposition research group Fusion GPS has received all the media attention so far, Lifezette states that Hakluyt is “a second, even more powerful and mysterious opposition research and intelligence firm… with significant political and financial links to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her 2016 campaign”.

Yet another UK link to a central pillar of the Trump-Russia narrative is British music promoter Robert Goldstone, who was reported to have organized a meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and Russian nationals in June 2016. In the email chain setting up the Trump Tower meeting, both before and after the meeting, the only real ‘evidence’ of collusion with Russia come from Goldstone’s own emails; none-too-subtle heavy hints about ‘Russian help’ dropped by Goldstone but later – after the emails became public – walked back by him as “hyping the message and… using hot-button language to puff up the information I had been given.”

Some have speculated that Goldstone was also involved with British or US intelligence efforts to concoct the RussiaGate narrative. As soon as his name emerged in the press, Goldstone – like Christopher Steele and Joseph Mifsud – went into ‘hiding’. Multiple press reports claimed he had done so out of fear for his safety, a claim also made about Christopher Steele when his name first became public. Indeed, the UK government issued a DA Notice (a press suppression advisory notice) to the British press to suppress the ex-spy Steele’s name. It is notable that, of all the people swept up into the ever-burgeoning RussiaGate investigation, it is only the UK-linked witnesses – Mifsud, Steele, Goldstone – who have felt the need to go into hiding when their role has been exposed.

The New York Times summed up the contents of Christopher Steele’s dossier: “Mr. Steele produced a series of memos that alleged a broad conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government to influence the 2016 election on behalf of Mr. Trump. The memos also contained unsubstantiated accounts of encounters between Mr. Trump and Russian prostitutes, and real estate deals that were intended as bribes.”

Press reports also relate that Steele was ordered by an English court to appear for a videotaped deposition in London as part of an ongoing civil litigation against Buzzfeed for publishing the unverified dossier, for which Steele was paid $168,000 by Glenn Simpson’s company Fusion GPS, who were in turn paid by Mark Elias of law firm Perkins Coie, lawyers to both the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC.

In his thread on the role of UK intelligence interference in the 2016 US Presidential race, Assange also noted how Christopher Steele used another former UK ambassador to Moscow, Sir Andrew Wood, to funnel the dossier to Senator John McCain in a way that moved the handover out of London, to Canada. It’s often said that no one ever really leaves the UK security services when they retire – many ‘former’ MI6 or MI5 officers’ private intelligence businesses are dependent on maintaining good contacts among their ex-colleagues – so it is interesting to note that Sir Andrew Wood says he was “instructed” — by former British spy Christopher Steele — to reach out to the senior Republican, whom Wood called “a good man,” about the unverified document.

Lastly, Robert Hannigan, former head of British intelligence agency GCHQ, is another personality of note in the formation of the RussiaGate narrative and its surprisingly deep links to the UK. The Guardian noted that Hannigan announced he would step down from his leadership position with the agency just three days after the inauguration of President Trump, on 23 January 2017. Jane Mayer in her profile of Christopher Steele published in the New Yorker also noted that Hannigan had flown to Washington D.C. to personally brief the then-CIA Director John Brennan on alleged communications between the Trump campaign and Moscow. What is so curious about this briefing “deemed so sensitive it was handled at director-level” is why Hannigan was talking director-to-director to the CIA and not Mike Rogers at the NSA, GCHQ’s Five Eyes intelligence-sharing partner.

We're sorry to announce that Robert Hannigan, our Director since 2014, has decided to step down as head of GCHQhttps://t.co/K5KdKnStcz pic.twitter.com/HaQpWYlqP2

— GCHQ (@GCHQ) January 23, 2017

The central supporting pillars of the RussiaGate allegations hinge on figures with close ties to British intelligence and UK nationals. Even establishment media like The Guardian reported that British spies from GCHQ were the first to alert US authorities to so-called Russian interference. Did the entire narrative originate with UK intelligence groups in an effort to create the appearance of Russian collusion with the Trump Presidential campaign, much as the Guccifer 2.0 persona was used in the US to discredit WikiLeaks’ publication of the DNC emails?

If it was not Russia at the heart of a complex operation to topple the Clinton campaign in 2016, then was British Intelligence responsible for creating false narratives and mirage-like ‘evidence’ on which the Trump-Russia scandal could hinge?

Put another way, if UK intelligence is responsible for manufacturing the Trump-Russia allegations, it suggests that the UK’s efforts formed an international arm running concurrently with domestic US ‘Deep State’ efforts to sabotage Trump’s presidential campaign and/or oust him once he had been elected.

Is British intelligence involvement in RussiaGate, as outlined above, the international version of CrowdStrike and former FBI figures manufacturing the Guccifer 2.0 persona specifically to smear WikiLeaks via false allegations of a Russian hack of the DNC? Have we been looking in the wrong place – at the wrong country – to unearth the so-called ‘foreign meddling’ in the 2016 US election all along?

https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/04/all-russiagate-roads-lead-to-london-as-evidence-emerges-of-joseph-mifsuds-links-to-uk-intelligence/

RandomGuy
04-04-2018, 05:11 PM
Rut Roh. TSA nervous and agitated. Mueller following the money.

TSA has seem somewhat shook. His posting pattern has been a bit more manic than normal, IMO.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 05:12 PM
TSA swinging and missing. You know who isn't missing jabs? Mueller.

RandomGuy
04-04-2018, 05:12 PM
[wall of text vomitus]


Clean up on aisle 3... someone bring a mop.

Summary?

TSA
04-04-2018, 05:12 PM
Rut Roh. TSA nervous and agitated. Mueller following the money.

Why did you quote yourself to ask me a question? Are you not getting enough attention today?

RandomGuy
04-04-2018, 05:13 PM
981643859095642113

No way. I'm sure it was all BUT HER EMAILS.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 05:14 PM
Why did you quote yourself to ask me a question? Are you not getting enough attention today?

Got the boy talking to himself. Lordy!

TSA
04-04-2018, 05:14 PM
Clean up on aisle 3... someone bring a mop.

Summary?

Joseph Mifsud isn't Russian intelligence like you were told to believe.

TSA
04-04-2018, 05:17 PM
TSA swinging and missing. You know who isn't missing jabs? Mueller.

Maybe one of these days Mueller will finally secure an indictment concerning Trump/Russia election collusion and then we can say he's landed a punch.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 05:20 PM
Maybe one of these days Mueller will finally secure an indictment concerning Trump/Russia election collusion and then we can say he's landed a punch.
He won't be securing Susan Rice's indictment
https://i.giphy.com/media/1M15RPLa4VBcc/giphy.gif

TSA
04-04-2018, 05:23 PM
He won't be securing Susan Rice's indictment
https://i.giphy.com/media/1M15RPLa4VBcc/giphy.gif

That would be John W. Huber
https://i.giphy.com/media/1M15RPLa4VBcc/giphy.gif

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 05:25 PM
Mueller, true American hero. Doing the Lord's work.
https://78.media.tumblr.com/ecf30680f9a48301b538c5e9ac40e4d7/tumblr_n86ssgeOiu1qaa8d1o2_500.gif

spurraider21
04-04-2018, 05:29 PM
That would be John W. Huber
https://i.giphy.com/media/1M15RPLa4VBcc/giphy.gif
so we've officially moved on from the theory that susan rice intentionally exposed the obama administration/doj?

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 05:30 PM
Investigators' interest in Russian oligarchs has not been previously reported. It reveals that Mueller's team has intensified its focus into the potential flow of money from Russia into the US election as part of its wide-ranging investigation into whether the Trump team colluded with Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election.

https://media.giphy.com/media/BZgTbVV4ZZvDcfwmHM/200w.webp

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 05:52 PM
TSA has seem somewhat shook. His posting pattern has been a bit more manic than normal, IMO.

He scared.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 07:02 PM
981680448677011457

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 07:03 PM
981682848590639104

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 07:12 PM
981684107196403712

Chris
04-04-2018, 07:44 PM
Sad trombone

Not a target

QzosOWBcTBE

djohn :lol

AaronY
04-04-2018, 07:50 PM
Chris actually winning arguments itt. Sad!

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 08:04 PM
981689613277425667

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 08:08 PM
Chris actually winning arguments itt. Sad!

Chris can't even tell you what his argument is. Seems like you can't wipe your ass either.

Reck
04-04-2018, 08:11 PM
When and where did the AaronY and Djohn beef started from?

I'm curious why Aaron is always sniping at Djohn. :lol

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 08:31 PM
When and where did the AaronY and Djohn beef started from?

I'm curious why Aaron is always sniping at Djohn. :lol
He got cucked and is pissed about it.

DarrinS
04-04-2018, 08:39 PM
When and where did the AaronY and Djohn beef started from?

I'm curious why Aaron is always sniping at Djohn. :cry

Fify

AaronY
04-04-2018, 08:53 PM
I'm sniping at the retarded Hail Mary Russia investigation hopes that some stupid liberals think is going to give them a get out of Trump free card

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 08:58 PM
I'm sniping at the retarded Hail Mary Russia investigation hopes that some stupid liberals think is going to give them a get out of Trump free card
Except one thing. It's being headed by a Republican. AaronY another moron who can't even wipe his own ass.

Reck
04-04-2018, 09:03 PM
Fify

Darrins, why you mad now? You sure can carry a grudge. :lol

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 09:04 PM
Darrins, why you mad now? You sure can carry a grudge. :lol
Darrin carries alot of estrogen around it seems.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 09:07 PM
CROFL Nunes not authorized to read classified material.

Chris
04-04-2018, 09:41 PM
Corsi says Mueller is DONE. Trump is about to go on a major counter attack and Obama is still pulling strings behind the scenes. Criminal indictments coming soon.


Q-HRGQzOUcE

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 09:42 PM
Corsi says Mueller is DONE. Trump is about to go on a major counter attack and Obama is still pulling strings behind the scenes. Criminal indictments coming soon.


Q-HRGQzOUcE

For what charges Chris?

Spurminator
04-04-2018, 09:43 PM
Corsi says Mueller is DONE. Trump is about to go on a major counter attack and Obama is still pulling strings behind the scenes. Criminal indictments coming soon.

From the video summary on YouTube:


Will Hillary end up in Gitmo?

:lmao :lmao :lmao
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:lmao (*ding*) :lmao

Chris
04-04-2018, 09:43 PM
Chris actually winning arguments itt. Sad!

Pretty easy when Hive Minds' arguments have more holes in them than Swiss cheese. :lol

TSA
04-04-2018, 09:44 PM
Except one thing. It's being headed by a Republican.

Mueller hasn’t indicted anyone for Trump/Russia election collusion because he’s a Republican. It all makes sense now.

Chris
04-04-2018, 09:45 PM
For what charges Chris?

According to 21 and Pavlov we don't need those to start investigations. You will find out after the trial I guess.

DarrinS
04-04-2018, 09:48 PM
I'm sniping at the retarded Hail Mary Russia investigation hopes that some stupid liberals think is going to give them a get out of Trump free card


Except one thing. It's being headed by a Republican. AaronY another moron who can't even wipe his own ass.


Darrins, why you mad now? You sure can carry a grudge. :lol


Looks like djohn mustard is the only one mad. :lol

Reck
04-04-2018, 09:48 PM
Corsi says Mueller is DONE. Trump is about to go on a major counter attack and Obama is still pulling strings behind the scenes. Criminal indictments coming soon.


Q-HRGQzOUcE

Did not watch video so you're gonna have to use your words, Chris.

How and why is Mueller "done?"

I thought Trump had nothing to fear.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 09:48 PM
According to 21 and Pavlov we don't need those to start investigations. You will find out after the trial I guess.
I am asking you. No one else. What charges?

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 09:49 PM
Looks like djohn mustard is the only one mad. :lol

Triggered by a high school kid :lol

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 09:50 PM
From the video summary on YouTube:



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:lmao (*ding*) :lmao



:lmao

Chris
04-04-2018, 09:50 PM
I am asking you. No one else. What charges?

Already answered.

Chris
04-04-2018, 09:51 PM
Did not watch video so you're gonna have to use your words, Chris.

How and why is Mueller "done?"

I thought Trump had nothing to fear.

Begging me to hold you hand :lol pathetic...

Reck
04-04-2018, 09:53 PM
Begging me to hold you hand :lol pathetic...

Nope. Simply asking you to articulate and speak for yourself.

Looks like you're the one who needs hand holding per your own post with the video. Unless you're the one making the comments in the video.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 09:55 PM
Already answered.

You didn't name any charges. What are they?

Spurminator
04-04-2018, 09:56 PM
Nope. Simply asking you to articulate and speak for yourself.

Looks like you're the one who needs hand holding per your own post with the video. Unless you're the one making the comments in the video.

Have you seen him try to articulate his own views? It's not pretty. He's better off just posting other people's Twitter takes tbh.

Chris
04-04-2018, 09:57 PM
Nope. Simply asking you to articulate and speak for yourself.

Looks like you're the one who needs hand holding per your own post with the video. Unless you're the one making the comments in the video.

Nah you want cliff notes - solly Cholly, you're on the list!

Chris
04-04-2018, 09:58 PM
You didn't name any charges. What are they?

Already answered.

DarrinS
04-04-2018, 09:59 PM
Have you seen him try to articulate his own views? It's not pretty. He's better off just posting other people's Twitter takes tbh.

Other people’s Twitter takes is djohn’s bread and butter.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 09:59 PM
Already answered.

Can you name specific charges or not?

Chris
04-04-2018, 10:00 PM
Can you name specific charges or not?

Already answered.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:00 PM
Other people’s Twitter takes is djohn’s bread and butter.
you getting cucked by a high school kid :lol

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:01 PM
Already answered.

So you can't then. Okay your theory is dead. Just like the Benghazi investigation.

DarrinS
04-04-2018, 10:03 PM
you getting cucked by a high school kid :lol

You mad :lol

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:04 PM
You mad :lol
Not even refuting some little boy makes you steaming mad.

Chris
04-04-2018, 10:05 PM
So you can't then. Okay your theory is dead. Just like the Benghazi investigation.

I've posted them several times in the past. Not my fault you can't keep up.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:07 PM
I've posted them several times in the past. Not my fault you can't keep up.

And you can't even name them? Not very effective, Chris.

DarrinS
04-04-2018, 10:09 PM
Not even refuting some little boy makes you steaming mad.

I feel sorry for that imaciated kid. You still mad tho. :lol

AaronY
04-04-2018, 10:09 PM
Except one thing. It's being headed by a Republican. AaronY another moron who can't even wipe his own ass.
Yeah, I know that and I think he's doing a good job. I don't think Trump is going to be executed and even if he did get implicated the numbers are not there to impeach him even if the Dems win both the Senate and the House lol. You're in a dream world

AaronY
04-04-2018, 10:11 PM
You need 67 senators to impeach! lmao what a pipe dream.

Chris
04-04-2018, 10:11 PM
And you can't even name them? Not very effective, Chris.

You guys want to give me the run around when I ask the questions, you should expect nothing more in return.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:11 PM
Yeah, I know that and I think he's doing a good job. I don't think Trump is going to be executed and even if he did get implicated the numbers are not there to impeach him even if the Dems win both the Senate and the House lol. You're in a dream world

Jail time tends to change minds. Remember that.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:12 PM
You guys want to give me the run around when I ask the questions, you should expect nothing more in return.
:cry

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:12 PM
I feel sorry for that imaciated kid. You still mad tho. :lol

Lordy look at the triggered.

Chris
04-04-2018, 10:12 PM
:cry

Hogg :lmao

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:17 PM
Hogg :lmao
God it's hilarious he strikes your nerves.

TSA
04-04-2018, 10:18 PM
dhogg2oo8 has a nice ring to it

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:19 PM
dhogg2oo8 has a nice ring to it
Is that supposed to be an insult? Lordy that's all you got :lol

DarrinS
04-04-2018, 10:38 PM
Lordy look at the triggered.

So mad you changed avatar. :lol

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:39 PM
So mad you changed avatar. :lol

I changed it to see you get mad :lol

DarrinS
04-04-2018, 10:39 PM
Should’ve gone with the Hitler youth pic, tbh.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:42 PM
Should’ve gone with the Hitler youth pic, tbh.

:lmao upset.

AaronY
04-04-2018, 10:43 PM
Jail time tends to change minds. Remember that.
The senators who don't vote to impeach will be facing jail time otherwise???

whoa true if huge

Chris
04-04-2018, 10:46 PM
I wonder when Roger Stone is going to flip. Maybe Mueller threatened him with jail time.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:46 PM
The senators who don't vote to impeach will be facing jail time otherwise???

whoa true if huge
The ones involved. The evidence from Mueller in his report will be overwhelming. Of course.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:47 PM
I wonder when Roger Stone is going to flip. Maybe Mueller threatened him with jail time.

Mueller just used some of the McCarthyism on Stone. That would work :lol

AaronY
04-04-2018, 10:49 PM
The ones involved. The evidence from Mueller in his report will be overwhelming. Of course.
Youre out of your mind

TSA
04-04-2018, 10:52 PM
Youre out of your mind
:lol so scared you forgot the apostrophe and the period. You can’t even wipe your own ass. Lordy!

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:53 PM
Youre out of your mind

Look at those hard right wingers like Gowdy and Chaffetz who were hyping up the Benghazi investigation. They said there was nothing to the Russia investigation initially. All of a sudden they are telling Trump to sit down for Mueller's interview, and that he is in legal jeopardy.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:55 PM
BTW, Republicans defended Nixon all the way til the end. In this case, Republicans are retiring in droves. Gowdy and Chaffetz have completely changed their tunes.

AaronY
04-04-2018, 10:56 PM
Djohn plotting the path to 67 senators

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/022/524/tumblr_o16n2kBlpX1ta3qyvo1_1280.jpg

TSA
04-04-2018, 10:57 PM
The ones involved. The evidence from Mueller in his report will be overwhelming. Of course.

Why has the evidence from Mueller been so underwhelming up to this point?

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 10:58 PM
Why has the evidence from Mueller been so underwhelming up to this point?

Lol what are you talking about? Indictments are not underwhelming. And Btw, Mueller's office does not leak. Evidence is used in court. That seems to bother you.

AaronY
04-04-2018, 10:59 PM
He's too popular among republican voters for 15-20 senators to peel off and vote to impeach dude

TSA
04-04-2018, 11:00 PM
Djohn plotting the path to 67 senators

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/022/524/tumblr_o16n2kBlpX1ta3qyvo1_1280.jpg

67 senators aren’t needed to impeach, the Marshal of the Supreme Court has the power to do so on his own.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 11:02 PM
He's too popular among republican voters for 15-20 senators to peel off and vote to impeach dude
That's why Mueller is going for an airtight case. BTW, Republicans are going to get destroyed in the midterms anyway. McConnell has even said so.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 11:03 PM
67 senators aren’t needed to impeach, the Marshal of the Supreme Court has the power to do so on his own.
They probably want to know what happened to Susan Rice.

TSA
04-04-2018, 11:04 PM
Lol what are you talking about? Indictments are not underwhelming. And Btw, Mueller's office does not leak. Evidence is used in court. That seems to bother you.

Mueller was tasked to find Trump/Russia election collusion. Mueller has so far produced no evidence showing Trump/Russia election collusion. Mueller’s indictments have nothing to do with Trump/Russia election collusion. Mueller has been underwhelming so far concerning Trump/Russia election collusion.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 11:06 PM
Mueller was tasked to find Trump/Russia election collusion. Mueller has so far produced no evidence showing Trump/Russia election collusion. Mueller’s indictments have nothing to do with Trump/Russia election collusion. Mueller has been underwhelming so far concerning Trump/Russia election collusion.
Mueller's job is to provide evidence to the court should he find that crimes occurred. He is not going to make anything public prematurely that will harm the investigation. And sorry dude. 13 Russians have already been indicted in regards to the election.

Chucho
04-04-2018, 11:08 PM
Djohn plotting the path to 67 senators

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/022/524/tumblr_o16n2kBlpX1ta3qyvo1_1280.jpg

Need to photoshop a Kyle Griffin tweet onto that map to be accurate.


Lordy, this dog eater is on Level 9 meltdown.

Chucho
04-04-2018, 11:09 PM
Mueller's job is to provide evidence to the court should he find that crimes occurred. He is not going to make anything public prematurely that will harm the investigation. And sorry dude. 13 Russians have already been indicted in regards to the election.

LOL, indictments that are going nowhere and have no ties to Trump. Meltdown city.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 11:12 PM
LOL, indictments that are going nowhere and have no ties to Trump. Meltdown city.
His campaign manager and deputy campaign manager have been indicted. Again, pathetic you once again are behind :lol

Chris
04-04-2018, 11:16 PM
Mueller was tasked to find Trump/Russia election collusion. Mueller has so far produced no evidence showing Trump/Russia election collusion. Mueller’s indictments have nothing to do with Trump/Russia election collusion. Mueller has been underwhelming so far concerning Trump/Russia election collusion.

Also don't forget collusion is not against the law. They are basically investigating a sin hoping for perjury or obstruction of justice charges like we saw against Flynn. This is why Pavlov and djohn can't name any charges :lol You can only investigate federal crimes and Mueller knows this. This is bread and circus.

djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 11:21 PM
Also don't forget collusion is not against the law. They are basically investigating a sin hoping for perjury or obstruction of justice charges like we saw against Flynn. This is why Pavlov and djohn can't name any charges :lol You can only investigate federal crimes and Mueller knows this. This is bread and circus.
A foreign country aiding a US campaign to win an election is against the law Chris. That is why there are election laws. Conspiracy to defraud the US is to deprive the US of a functioning government, democracy, etc.

Blake
04-04-2018, 11:24 PM
https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/04/all-russiagate-roads-lead-to-london-as-evidence-emerges-of-joseph-mifsuds-links-to-uk-intelligence/

Tldr but rofl "disobedientmedia.com"