Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Pavlov]

remember that early on Flynn “had a story to tell”. He now gets to tell his story without any limitations.

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Any and all crimes. He served for 33 years, he’s got dirt on everyone.:lol So you're saying he intentionally committed a felony in order to give information on all the crimes committed by the Satan worshiping, baby eating child sex traffickers for whom he gladly worked for 33 years?

Sounds legit.

What ever stopped him in the first place, TSA?

[Spurminator]

Seems like there would be easier ways to reveal Spirit Cooking Pedophiles to the world but I've never played 17-D Chess.

[Pavlov]

Flynn could've just gone on 4chan like all the other demon hunters.


WHAT MAKES YOU THINK HE DIDN'T?

[pgardn]

Tbh...I dont know what he's trying to say. Pgardn is all over the place.


Collusion.

Plain and simple. Dump it. Say it's outrageous.
Even though I wish it could be proven at this point.


Why do people reply to this tsa guy. It's really doesn't go anywhere. :lol

Yeah?

And Djohn sees collusion. He sees Russian and the Trump campaign plotting as to exactly how they pull out this huge upset by targeting exactly the right swing states electorally. This would take a very large effort that should be extremely easy to trace. All we have seen is the Russians actually screwing with Trumo and Clinton. Basically Putting out a crapload of fake news about both candidates, but more about Hillary because there was more anger that would take hold in population of TSAs.

We see the Russians trying to capitalize on fake news by inciting fictional white hate groups. And putting out fictional stuff concerning Trump people providing plants at Hillary rallies and vice versa. This was told to Obama and Trump before and after the election via our intelligence that can't be believed by either side if the choose not to.

The huge point:

The above is by far the easiest way forTHE RUSSIANSto cause paranoia about the entire American political system. And we got Djohn and TSA to prove it. Not some smoky back room delving into votes in key states.


Djohn does not get that the Mueller investigation is putting an enormous effort into financial misdeeds and lying, not collusion with Russia. Lying merely about contacts that seems to involve $ in a number of situations. Before Nixon was elected, he had contacted N. Vietnam (who we are frkn at war with) and started negotiations about thwarting a decision by then president Johnson before the election to ensure Johnson and the Democrats were finished. Now this is the real thing. Djohn waits for something like this? Mueller is leading us all astray then.

[djohn2oo8]

So PG says all we have seen is Russia screwing with both candidates though Trump's entire cabinet and family met with Russians and for some odd reason Trunp lied about any of them having ever met any Russians, plus Trump's own adviser confirming Russia threw the election, plus Trunp JR meeting with Russians to get dirt on Hillary, plus Kushner and others Directing Flynn to speak with the Russians pre inauguration and right after the sanctions were implemented. Plus Russians being caught on tape talking about how to target Trump aides as being useful to them. Yeah thats what PG is saying that he hadn't seen.

[djohn2oo8]

Oh and yeah let's not forget the fact Trump had fired Comey for not dropping the investigation, and asked Burr, the CIA and NSA to all drop it.

[djohn2oo8]

Yes, Mueller is investigating all of this you dipshit. I like though how you said Mueller is investigating a wide array of things except collusion. You pretty much on your own defeated what you had to say.

[dabom]

Yeah?

And Djohn sees collusion. He sees Russian and the Trump campaign plotting as to exactly how they pull out this huge upset by targeting exactly the right swing states electorally. This would take a very large effort that should be extremely easy to trace. All we have seen is the Russians actually screwing with Trumo and Clinton. Basically Putting out a crapload of fake news about both candidates, but more about Hillary because there was more anger that would take hold in population of TSAs.

We see the Russians trying to capitalize on fake news by inciting fictional white hate groups. And putting out fictional stuff concerning Trump people providing plants at Hillary rallies and vice versa. This was told to Obama and Trump before and after the election via our intelligence that can't be believed by either side if the choose not to.

The huge point:

The above is by far the easiest way forTHE RUSSIANSto cause paranoia about the entire American political system. And we got Djohn and TSA to prove it. Not some smoky back room delving into votes in key states.


Djohn does not get that the Mueller investigation is putting an enormous effort into financial misdeeds and lying, not collusion with Russia. Lying merely about contacts that seems to involve $ in a number of situations. Before Nixon was elected, he had contacted N. Vietnam (who we are frkn at war with) and started negotiations about thwarting a decision by then president Johnson before the election to ensure Johnson and the Democrats were finished. Now this is the real thing. Djohn waits for something like this? Mueller is leading us all astray then.

Still sticking to the whole "both parties were influenced by pudding". :lmao

Very misleading and old shtick. I already corrected you faggot long time ago. Makes me think you ain't bright you fat fuck. :lmao

[Chris]

Judicial Watch thinks that it is clearer than ever that Special Counsel Mueller's investigation is out-of-control, and so we are suing in federal court to hold him accountable — because no one is above the law! It's time for President Trump to shut this investigation down!

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24774712_10155518054316943_6676040387516624054_n.j pg?oh=d99681a4a0ee92d5bc84f23dbde0fe43&oe=5ACDC5EE

www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-sues-justice-department-mueller-russian-special-counsel-budget/

[Chris]

Judicial Watch believes James Comey should be held accountable for his actions — including leading a flawed Clinton investigation and also leaking memos to the media in the hopes that it would lead to a Special Counsel.

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24300887_10155518219836943_852693581698098945_n.jp g?oh=af7ecfe274e131e2e4773bb4249b7aa2&oe=5A93276B

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-sues-justice-department-communications-former-fbi-director-comeys-controversial-senate-testimony/

[Reck]

And dismissed. :lol

[Reck]

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[dabom]

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Comey big dicking everyone. :lmao

[TSA]

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/03/mueller-aide-fired-for-anti-trump-texts-now-facing-review-for-role-in-clinton-email-probe.amp.html

:rollin

[TSA]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/03/mueller-aide-fired-for-anti-trump-texts-now-facing-review-for-role-in-clinton-email-probe.amp.html

:rollin

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[TSA]

Interesting theory on Flynn and the team of DIA spooks he built before leaving

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[Chris]

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Yep always comes back to the Dems. Experts at committing crimes and blaming it on the other party. Absolutely despicable people.

[TSA]

:lol So you're saying he intentionally committed a felony in order to give information on all the crimes committed by the Satan worshiping, baby eating child sex traffickers for whom he gladly worked for 33 years?

Sounds legit.

What ever stopped him in the first place, TSA?

I never said any of what you proposed. Flynn lied about a non crime...why?

[djohn2oo8]

I never said any of what you proposed. Flynn lied about a non crime...why?

Listen to yourself. Who lies to the feds about a non crime? the point of lying to the feds is to hide an actual crime. :lol

[DarrinS]

Listen to yourself. Who lies to the feds about a non crime? the point of lying to the feds is to hide an actual crime. :lol

Given the Russia hysteria at the time, I can understand why he lied. He probably wouldn’t have, if he knew he was being wiretapped.

[Pavlov]

I never said any of what you proposed. Flynn lied about a non crime...why?
the most likely scenario is someone told him to in order to provide cover.

What is your theory, TSA?

Don't say I don't know -- you're wishcasting too loudly for that.

[Pavlov]

Given the Russia hysteria at the time, I can understand why he lied.Why? What were the consequences had he told the truth to the FBI?

[djohn2oo8]

Given the Russia hysteria at the time, I can understand why he lied. He probably wouldn’t have, if he knew he was being wiretapped.

So he lied about a non crime to commit an actual crime? :lmao

[Reck]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/03/mueller-aide-fired-for-anti-trump-texts-now-facing-review-for-role-in-clinton-email-probe.amp.html

:rollin

Oh thank you very much for proving the notion that Mueller is somehow anti Trump and is out to get Trump basely and purely on his political agenda to be a totally false and fabricated one.

Thanks for playing, TSA. :lol

[DarrinS]

Why? What were the consequences had he told the truth to the FBI?

None

No legal consequences, that is.

[Reck]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/03/mueller-aide-fired-for-anti-trump-texts-now-facing-review-for-role-in-clinton-email-probe.amp.html

:rollin

Friendly reminder:

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[dabom]

None

No legal consequences, that is.

So he lied to the FBI for no reason?

[Trill Clinton]

Given the Russia hysteria at the time, I can understand why he lied. He probably wouldn’t have, if he knew he was being wiretapped.

i cannot understand that thought process. so if you were being accused of something you had NOTHING to do with, you would still lie? makes no sense.

[Pavlov]

None

No legal consequences, that is.What other consequences?

[DarrinS]

What other consequences?

Who knows. Dude had a lot of other weird shit going on. Maybe he was trying to tell them what he thought would keep them at bay. Keep in mind, he didn’t know his calls were monitored.

[Reck]

Given the Russia hysteria at the time, I can understand why he lied. He probably wouldn’t have, if he knew he was being wiretapped.

So what you're saying is Flynn is a bitch made who had to lie because he couldn't bare the thought of looking kinda off?

That's like admitting to your wife you cheated on her when you didn't to look alpha. And for no reason. :lol

Oh and btw, the russian "hysteria" as you call it wasn't that back in 2016. It was literally the beginning and no one knew about any real russian contact until summer of this year when Comey himself said Trump was under investigation.

[DarrinS]

So what you're saying is Flynn is a bitch made who had to lie because he couldn't bare the thought of looking kinda off?

That's like admitting to your wife you cheated on her when you didn't to look alpha. And for no reason. :lol

Oh and btw, the russian "hysteria" as you call it wasn't that back in 2016. It was literally the start beginning and no one knew about any real russian contact until summer of this year when Comey himself said Trump was under investigation.



No, the Russia hysteria started during the campaign in 2016.

[Reck]

No, the Russia hysteria started during the campaign in 2016.

Hillary was the only one bringing it up with no context and no one paid attention to her or it.

Saying Trump is Putin's puppet doesn't count.

[DarrinS]

Hillary was the only one bringing it up with no context and no one paid attention to her or it.

Saying Trump is Putin's puppet doesn't count.


Her campaign and the DNC paid for the fake dossier that triggered all this shit. She was being very strategic to bring it up in debate.

Lol, no one paid attention to her for it.

[djohn2oo8]

No, the Russia hysteria started during the campaign in 2016.

No son . The hysteria started in January when the dossier came out. Nice try though.

[DarrinS]

No son . The hysteria started in January when the dossier came out. Nice try though.


:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao

I know you don't have shit else to say. Because the dossier didn't come out until January.

[djohn2oo8]

So this is what Darrin is saying. Flynn according to Darrin did nothing wrong so instead of telling the truth to the FBI SO THEY COULD CLEAR HIM he lied instead. A career military guy who knows the punishment for lying to the feds, lied about a non crime. :lmao

[DarrinS]

I know you don't have shit else to say. Because the dossier didn't come out until January.

Didn’t come out to the public. What instigated the FISA warrants the led to the wiretapping? And when did that happen?

[DarrinS]

So this is what Darrin is saying. Flynn according to Darrin did nothing wrong so instead of telling the truth to the FBI SO THEY COULD CLEAR HIM he lied instead. A career military guy who knows the punishment for lying to the feds, lied about a non crime. :lmao


From what I’ve read, absolutely nothing criminal in Flynn’s calls with Russians. Same kind of shit was caught in hot mic between Obama and Medvedev.

[djohn2oo8]

From what I’ve read, absolutely nothing criminal in Flynn’s calls with Russians. Same kind of shit was caught in hot mic between Obama and Medvedev.
Yeah from what you read is thr problem right there. So are you saying a military guy who knew the punishment for lying to the feds lied for a non crime?

[djohn2oo8]

Didn’t come out to the public. What instigated the FISA warrants the led to the wiretapping? And when did that happen?

CROFL look at you moving the goalposts. Apparently you don't trust the FBI unless they had Hillary under investigation.

[djohn2oo8]

But yeah there are two things you don't do. Don't lie on your SF 86 and don't lie to the feds. Ever.

[Reck]

Her campaign and the DNC paid for the fake dossier that triggered all this shit. She was being very strategic to bring it up in debate.

Lol, no one paid attention to her for it.


:lmao

Why are you laughing like some kind of retard?

Hillary and her campaign were so inept that they didn't use the dossier at all. It was Buzz fucking feed that published it in January. Months after the election.

So what are you laughing about? Your own stupidity?

I dont know if you know this but....Hillary didn't have knowledge of the FBI investigating Trump or I'm pretty sure she would have been all over it.

[djohn2oo8]

Wait, Darrin really doesn't know the dossier was first paid for by a Republican?

[djohn2oo8]

And lol at the dossier triggering anything when it was flynn s own actions that got him indicted along with Manafort s actions, Gates, and Papadick.

[DarrinS]

Why are you laughing like some kind of retard?

Hillary and her campaign were so inept that they didn't use the dossier at all. It was Buzz fucking feed that published it in January. Months after the election.

So what are you laughing about? Your own stupidity?

I dont know if you know this but....Hillary didn't have knowledge of the FBI investigating Trump or I'm pretty sure she would have been all over it.



Yeah, she didn’t use it, except for that whole FISA thingy.

[DarrinS]

And lol at the dossier triggering anything when it was flynn s own actions that got him indicted along with Manafort s actions, Gates, and Papadick.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/politics/fbi-dossier-carter-page-donald-trump-russia-investigation/index.html

[djohn2oo8]

Yeah, she didn’t use it, except for that whole FISA thingy.

What are you even rambling about?

[djohn2oo8]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/politics/fbi-dossier-carter-page-donald-trump-russia-investigation/index.html

You didn't answer my question. Did you not know the dossier started from funding from a republican?

[DarrinS]

Wait, Darrin really doesn't know the dossier was first paid for by a Republican?


It was Washington Free Beacon, was during primaries, and unlrelated to muh Russia.

[djohn2oo8]

Darrin apparently doesn't know the FBI uses wires.

[djohn2oo8]

It was Washington Free Beacon, was during primaries, and unlrelated to muh Russia.

So what in the dossier related to Russia, besides the pee tape, have been proven to be false?

[DarrinS]

Darrin apparently doesn't know the FBI uses wires.

You’re putting in so much good work today, John.

Resist!

[Reck]

Yeah, she didn’t use it, except for that whole FISA thingy.

What are you saying here?

That Hillary somehow went to the FBI and the FBI then went to a secretive court to get a warrant to wiretap Trump? I'm confused.

[djohn2oo8]

What are you saying here?

That Hillary somehow went to the FBI and the FBI then went to a secretive court to get a warrant to wiretap Trump? I'm confused.

:lol

[DarrinS]

What are you saying here?

That Hillary somehow went to the FBI and the FBI then went to a secretive court to get a warrant to wiretap Trump? I'm confused.


No, but the FBI managed “somehow” to get possession of dossier and used it for FISA warrant.

I agree that you are confused.

[djohn2oo8]

No, but the FBI managed “somehow” to get possession of dossier and used it for FISA warrant.

I agree that you are confused.

A FISA warrant was first granted on both Manafort and Page in 2014. Before dossier was compiled. Nice try though.

[pgardn]

So PG says all we have seen is Russia screwing with both candidates though Trump's entire cabinet and family met with Russians and for some odd reason Trunp lied about any of them having ever met any Russians, plus Trump's own adviser confirming Russia threw the election, plus Trunp JR meeting with Russians to get dirt on Hillary, plus Kushner and others Directing Flynn to speak with the Russians pre inauguration and right after the sanctions were implemented. Plus Russians being caught on tape talking about how to target Trump aides as being useful to them. Yeah thats what PG is saying that he hadn't seen.


Oh and yeah let's not forget the fact Trump had fired Comey for not dropping the investigation, and asked Burr, the CIA and NSA to all drop it.


Yes, Mueller is investigating all of this you dipshit. I like though how you said Mueller is investigating a wide array of things except collusion. You pretty much on your own defeated what you had to say.

You are completely lost because you have not a clue as to what Russia is trying to do. You are so focused on Donald actually planning with Russians to steal an election. You are taking the extremely difficult path when there is a much easier one. Instead of trying to pick a candidate, F with the entire system by creating doubt. You can't see past your face. You are a partisan hack just like TSA.

[djohn2oo8]

You are completely lost because you have not a clue as to what Russia is trying to do. You are so focused on Donald actually planning with Russians to steal an election. You are taking the extremely difficult path when there is a much easier one. Instead of trying to pick a candidate, F with the entire system by creating doubt. You can't see past your face. You are a partisan hack just like TSA.

Mueller's actually probing Trump's ties to Russia as well, Including collusion. You seem mad. Don't know why. you wanna be right so bad but you're more than wrong. It's pathetic.

[djohn2oo8]

Just for PG. Why is Mueller interested in that Trump JR meeting with the Russians?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/11/17/politics/mueller-goldstone-trump-jr-russian-lawyer/index.html

Yeah sit the fuck down.

[pgardn]

So PG says all we have seen is Russia screwing with both candidates though Trump's entire cabinet and family met with Russians and for some odd reason Trunp lied about any of them having ever met any Russians, plus Trump's own adviser confirming Russia threw the election, plus Trunp JR meeting with Russians to get dirt on Hillary, plus Kushner and others Directing Flynn to speak with the Russians pre inauguration and right after the sanctions were implemented. Plus Russians being caught on tape talking about how to target Trump aides as being useful to them. Yeah thats what PG is saying that he hadn't seen.


Oh and yeah let's not forget the fact Trump had fired Comey for not dropping the investigation, and asked Burr, the CIA and NSA to all drop it.


Mueller's actually probing Trump's ties to Russia as well, Including collusion. You seem mad. Don't know why. you wanna be right so bad but you're more than wrong. It's pathetic.

Sure.

I would love to see Trump gone.

You have a bunch of Bozos meeting with Russians and lying about it and when we look at the substance of the meetings they don't come close to collusion. It's more about financial relationships and possibly trying to avoid sanctions, not meetings discussing how to get Trump elected. If you can't see this I can't help you. It continued after the election. How can we both benefit meetings.

Meanwhile we know the Russians tried to create chaos for both camps and create general discord within the country and Trump attempts to look right past this. This is the problem, not Trump planning with Russians on how they can win the election for Trump. Read the underlined and try to get it. And if I am wrong, and Trump did plan with the Russians before the election to help him win illegally, I will fully admit I missed it. I'm confident I have not. I will go with the summary of the intelligence community on how the Russians acted, not you.

[djohn2oo8]

Sure.

I would love to see Trump gone.

You have a bunch of Bozos meeting with Russians and lying about it and when we look at the substance of the meetings they don't come close to collusion. It's more about financial relationships and possibly trying to avoid sanctions, not meetings discussing how to get Trump elected. If you can't see this I can't help you. It continued after the election. How can we both benefit meetings.

Meanwhile we know the Russians tried to create chaos for both camps and create general discord within the country and Trump attempts to look right past this. This is the problem, not Trump planning with Russians on how they can win the election for Trump. Read the underlined and try to get it. And if I am wrong, and Trump did plan with the Russians before the election to help him win illegally, I will fully admit I missed it. I'm confident I have not. I will go with the summary of the intelligence community on how the Russians acted, not you.

That means Russia had an interest in avoiding sanctions and Trump had an interest in dirt on Hillary. But yeah nothing here signifies collusion or quid pro quo. :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Oh yeah. and ":cry Russia played both sides even though Wikileaks only released dirt on Hillary after hacking the RNC too".

[pgardn]

Just for PG. Why is Mueller interested in that Trump JR meeting with the Russians?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/11/17/politics/mueller-goldstone-trump-jr-russian-lawyer/index.html

Yeah sit the fuck down.

Why did they meet with the Russian lady interested in children and adoption? Well it turns out sanctions... That's why the Russians were there. You don't get it takes two to tango. Not how to win Trump the election. Do we need to go through all the meetings and substance? Money, sanctions, how can we help...

Now breathe my intestinal wind you dork.

[djohn2oo8]

Why did they meet with the Russian lady interested in children and adoption? Well it turns out sanctions... That's why the Russians were there. You don't get it takes two to tango. Not how to win Trump the election. Do we need to go through all the meetings and substance? Money, sanctions, how can we help...

Now breathe my intestinal wind you dork.
You skipped over why Trump Jr and Manafort were there.

[dabom]

Oh yeah. and ":cry Russia played both sides even though Wikileaks only released dirt on Hillary after hacking the RNC too".

"They diddy dda faccybooky thinggy on both sides just as much" :cry :cry

[djohn2oo8]

"They diddy dda faccybooky thinggy on both sides just as much" :cry :cry

:lol

[pgardn]

Oh yeah. and ":cry Russia played both sides even though Wikileaks only released dirt on Hillary after hacking the RNC too".

You fckn idiot.

We have traced anti Trump memes, bot talk, political discussion on US sites right back to Russian intelligence. Again. Obama and Trump both knew this right after he was elected. And the Russians are still attempting the same type of useful chaos.

But you stick to the much less plausible Russian plan. Meeting with Trump before the election planning on how to take Wisconsin.

Boo!

[pgardn]

:lol

The lying fake engineer is a funny dude.
Im just fired up... We can certainly believe this poster.
Ill let you guys wack each other off now.

[djohn2oo8]

You fckn idiot.

We have traced anti Trump memes, bot talk, political discussion on US sites right back to Russian intelligence. Again. Obama and Trump both knew this right after he was elected. And the Russians are still attempting the same type of useful chaos.

But you stick to the much less plausible Russian plan. Meeting with Trump before the election planning on how to take Wisconsin.

Boo!

Again. This is the third time you skipped why Trump Jr and Manafort were at that meeting.

[dabom]

The lying fake engineer is a funny dude.
Im just fired up... We can certainly believe this poster.
Ill let you guys wack each other off now.

Fat fuck. :lmao :lmao

[DarrinS]

When you want something so badly to be true, it can sure screw with your common sense. So much time invested, John. Smh

[Pavlov]

Who knows. Dude had a lot of other weird shit going on. Maybe he was trying to tell them what he thought would keep them at bay. Keep in mind, he didn’t know his calls were monitored.Then he's a bigger idiot than I thought. It's precious that you think the US would be the only country monitoring Russians tho.

[djohn2oo8]

When you want something so badly to be true, it can sure screw with your common sense. So much time invested, John. Smh

If you don't believe it, why are you here? Do these allegations bother you Darrin? If they don't then ignore it. But you can't help it.

[pgardn]

Again. This is the third time you skipped why Trump Jr and Manafort were at that meeting.

You tell me.

On how to take Wisconsin?
With Manafort money was always motive. Why did Manafort represent the Russian dupe in the Ukraine?
Answer: $

[djohn2oo8]

You tell me.

On how to take Wisconsin?
With Manafort money was always motive. Why did Manafort represent the Russian dupe in the Ukraine?
Answer: $

I asked you. And you still skipped over Jr. Though in his emails he was looking for dirt on Hillary. Be informed next time.

[pgardn]

I asked you. And you still skipped over Jr. Though in his emails he was looking for dirt on Hillary. Be informed next time.

Oh.

So candidates look for dirt on each other. How quaint.
We have been through this before ad nauseum. Just be glad Meuller is in action now as he can look for illegality outside of collusion with Russian intelligence. The biggest paranoid mistake Trump made, making room for Mueller. As I have said MULTIPLE times before, family members are in trouble.

Trump.... Not for collusion IMO based on our intelligence. Because that's really what we got and then the wake of destruction Mueller will leave because not much is leaking out of that office ahead.

[djohn2oo8]

Oh.

So candidates look for dirt on each other.

Its illegal to do such with a foreign country regarding an election, which is why we have campaign laws. BTW, it wasnt just looking for dirt. It was looking for dirt in exchange for no sanctions. Which is why Trump Jr lied and said it was about adoptions. Now, get on your knees.

[dabom]

Its illegal to do such with a foreign country regarding an election, which is why we have campaign laws. BTW, it wasnt just looking for dirt. It was looking for dirt in exchange for no sanctions. Which is why Trump Jr lied and said it was about adoptions. Now, get on your knees.

:lol

[pgardn]

Its illegal to do such with a foreign country. Which is why Trump Jr lied and said it was about adoptions. Now, get on your knees.

So you see this as collusion and Donald will be found the mastermind behind this.
Give us the sequence of events please. Timing of meetings and where Donald directs collusion with Russian intelligence to change the election for Trump.

Im now kneeling.
On your neck.

[djohn2oo8]

So you see this as collusion and Donald will be found the mastermind behind this.
Give us the sequence of events please. Timing of meetings and where Donald directs collusion with Russian intelligence to change the election for Trump.

Im now kneeling.
On your neck.

Go back through these 495 pages where I have laid it all out. Then once you read it, come back and kiss my ass hoe.

[ElNono]

props to djohn, tbh, called it a long time ago

[djohn2oo8]

I can give you a quick briefing on why the Trump Jr meeting will be looked at as violating election laws.

[pgardn]

props to djohn, tbh, called it a long time ago


He did.

With Flynn.
So did Trump.
He fired him.

So did Obama, he fired him.

[djohn2oo8]

props to djohn, tbh, called it a long time ago

:tu :toast

[djohn2oo8]

He did.

With Flynn.
So did Trump.
He fired him.

So did Obama, he fired him.

Trump fired him because he was pressured to. He hired him Ignoring Obama's warning not to hire him. Don't come at me tonight brah.

[pgardn]

I can give you a quick briefing on why the Trump Jr meeting will be looked at as violating election laws.

Do that and then show how Mueller will call the indictment since it's so clear, and then tie the president to all of this.
When do you think the impeachment will come and Trump resigning in shame? Or being tried?

Because this thread went way beyond Flynn as Nono is fully aware. But he gives the award.

[djohn2oo8]

Do that and then show how Mueller will call the indictment since it's so clear, and then tie the president to all of this.
When do you think the impeachment will come and Trump resigning in shame? Or being tried?

Because this thread went way beyond Flynn as Nono is fully aware. But he gives the award.
What does the law say?
While experts cautioned against drawing any hard legal conclusions at this early stage, they said the circumstances surrounding the meeting between members of Trump’s inner circle and the Russian attorney could potentially violate U.S. federal election law.

"If the meeting is as described, it would raise serious issues of liability under laws restricting foreign participation and influence in American elections," said Samuel Issacharoff, a professor at New York University School of Law.

Federal law prohibits a foreign national from giving anything of value to a campaign engaged in a U.S. election. It’s also a crime to solicit a foreign national to do so, or even to "knowingly provide substantial assistance" in receiving something of value.

While illegal foreign contributions typically take the form of money, legal experts told us it’s possible a court could find that "information" satisfies the legal requirement if it’s considered valuable to a campaign.

"Contributions definitely do not need to be in the form of cash to constitute a thing of value," said Michael S. Kang, a law professor at Emory University Law School. "However, it also needs to be said that this is an unusual situation quite unlike the usual context for an illegal foreign contribution, typically in the form of money rather than information."

Additional legally significant questions remain unanswered, experts said, including whether the younger Trump engaged in these actions "knowingly."

However, some experts noted that recently-surfaced facts substantially flesh out the evidence needed to show intent.

"The tweeted emails make things worse for Trump Jr.," said Michael Gerhardt, a professor at UNC School of Law. "He looks now as if he attended the meeting with not only his eyes open but also to acquire information -- something of value -- in violation of federal law."

[pgardn]

Trump fired him because he was pressured to. He hired him Ignoring Obama's warning not to hire him. Don't come at me tonight brah.

So what.

Trump has done much more than fire Flynn after pressure? That's a seriously awful excuse with this president. All losers go in his world. Now it's gonna bite la familia.

Dont come at me like that bro-fessor or I'll pull your teeth thru your anus.

By God...

This is great fun

[djohn2oo8]

like I said. Don't come sideways my nigga
https://media.giphy.com/media/dmlHMWEibXAZi/giphy.gif

[pgardn]

What does the law say?
While experts cautioned against drawing any hard legal conclusions at this early stage, they said the circumstances surrounding the meeting between members of Trump’s inner circle and the Russian attorney could potentially violate U.S. federal election law.

"If the meeting is as described, it would raise serious issues of liability under laws restricting foreign participation and influence in American elections," said Samuel Issacharoff, a professor at New York University School of Law.

Federal law prohibits a foreign national from giving anything of value to a campaign engaged in a U.S. election. It’s also a crime to solicit a foreign national to do so, or even to "knowingly provide substantial assistance" in receiving something of value.

While illegal foreign contributions typically take the form of money, legal experts told us it’s possible a court could find that "information" satisfies the legal requirement if it’s considered valuable to a campaign.

"Contributions definitely do not need to be in the form of cash to constitute a thing of value," said Michael S. Kang, a law professor at Emory University Law School. "However, it also needs to be said that this is an unusual situation quite unlike the usual context for an illegal foreign contribution, typically in the form of money rather than information."

Additional legally significant questions remain unanswered, experts said, including whether the younger Trump engaged in these actions "knowingly."

However, some experts noted that recently-surfaced facts substantially flesh out the evidence needed to show intent.

"The tweeted emails make things worse for Trump Jr.," said Michael Gerhardt, a professor at UNC School of Law. "He looks now as if he attended the meeting with not only his eyes open but also to acquire information -- something of value -- in violation of federal law."

Yeah.

So it's gonna be really difficult to bring the president to bear for collusion.

Which is NOW THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD.

Start a new one: Trump will be found guilty of collusion after being Impeached.
Call it now Djohn, put it up. I dare you. Even though I would really enjoy it if you were correct.

[pgardn]

like I said. Don't come sideways my nigga
https://media.giphy.com/media/dmlHMWEibXAZi/giphy.gif

So am I Rocky?

Because I don't know if I really want to win but I'm pretty sure I will.

[djohn2oo8]

Yeah.

So it's gonna be really difficult to bring the president to bear for collusion.

Which is NOW THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD.

Start a new one: Trump will be found guilty of collusion after being Impeached.
Call it now Djohn, put it up. I dare you. Even though I would really enjoy it if you were correct.

Oh I'll start it no doubt. Right now I'm enjoying the likes of turds of Chris And Darrin participating in this thread and making it one of the longest they've ever seen or could possibly not ever create.Also because it all ties back to Flynn.

[DarrinS]

Oh I'll start it no doubt. Right now I'm enjoying the likes of turds of Chris And Darrin participating in this thread and making it one of the longest they've ever seen or could possibly not ever create.Also because it all ties back to Flynn.


Hysteria creates long threads, tbh. :lol

[pgardn]

When this first happened I told my wife (who would seriously try to kill Trump) this was going to be big.
Took a while.

But with Mueller, I think it's going to be meticulously painful.
Trump really screwed up firing Comey.
And if he tried to fire Mueller while he is this making progress... Chaos.

[djohn2oo8]

Hysteria creates long threads, tbh. :lol

You not being able to stay away helps.

[boutons_deux]

Jared pushed hard for Comey's firing.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/22/jared-kushner-reportedly-pressed-for-comeys-firing-as-fbi-director.html

[baseline bum]

But with Mueller, I think it's going to be meticulously painful.
Trump really screwed up firing Comey.
And if he tried to fire Mueller while he is this making progress... Chaos.

Why chaos? The GOP might feel they need to have the Dear Leader's back next year with midterms coming and Trump's popularity with Republican voters to try to fend of primary challengers. Flake and Corker already pussed out on their re-election bids after coming out against Trump. It sure seems like the GOP is scared of him. I don't think they'd do anything but maybe some weak interviews with the press condemning the move if he got Mueller fired.

[boutons_deux]

Trump lawyer argues ‘president cannot obstruct justice’ because he is president

President Donald Trump’s layer claims his client cannot be guilty of obstruction of justice because he is the president.

John Dowd, the president’s outside lawyer, insisted he drafted Trump’s tweet over the weekend that seemingly confessed to obstruction but argued the social media posting did no such thing, reported Axios (https://www.axios.com/exclusive-trump-lawyer-claims-the-president-cannot-obstruct-justice-2514742663.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic).

“The tweet did not admit obstruction,” Dowd told the website. “That is an ignorant and arrogant assertion.”

The attorney insisted Trump could not possibly be guilty of obstruction because he was the chief executive.

John Dowd, the president’s outside lawyer, insisted he drafted Trump’s tweet over the weekend

that seemingly confessed to obstruction but argued the social media posting did no such thing, reported Axios (https://www.axios.com/exclusive-trump-lawyer-claims-the-president-cannot-obstruct-justice-2514742663.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic).

“The tweet did not admit obstruction,” Dowd told the website. “That is an ignorant and arrogant assertion.”

The attorney insisted Trump could not possibly be guilty of obstruction because he was the chief executive.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/trump-lawyer-argues-president-cannot-obstruct-justice-because-he-is-president/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

So Dowd wrote the tweet and gave it to Trash? Which means Trash is not responsible for what he tweets? Fuck ALL lawyers.

[boutons_deux]

Paul Manafort begged Jared Kushner not to fire him from campaign over secret Ukraine millions

Trump exclaimed “I’ve got a crook running my campaign.” :lol ( actually, "I'm a crook campaigning for Pres" :lol )

Trump wanted Bannon to fire Manafort that day, but Bannon cautioned that it would make a flood of bad press.

He argued Trump should simply remove his authority and give him a new title.

Kellyanne Conway was named as the campaign manager :lol

and Bannon was the new CEO.

Trump demanded son-in-law Jared Kushner fire Manafort. That following morning Manafort balked at the request to resign, concerned about the perception it was about the Ukraine stories.

“It will make me look guilty,” he said. :lol

Kushner warned nothing could be done and a press release was going out any minute.

Trump defended Manafort just months ago, saying that

Manafort’s lawyer proved there was no collusion on the campaign. :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/paul-manafort-begged-jared-kushner-not-to-fire-him-from-campaign-over-secret-ukraine-millions-report/

[djohn2oo8]

794255968448020480
There's a tweet for everything

[djohn2oo8]

Why chaos? The GOP might feel they need to have the Dear Leader's back next year with midterms coming and Trump's popularity with Republican voters to try to fend of primary challengers. Flake and Corker already pussed out on their re-election bids after coming out against Trump. It sure seems like the GOP is scared of him. I don't think they'd do anything but maybe some weak interviews with the press condemning the move if he got Mueller fired.

Because to get to Mueller, Trump may need to fire Sessions first. Republicans love them some Sessions and you'll see them act should he fire Sessions first. It still won't matter because the investigation doesn't stop if Mueller is fired. Plus he can be reappointed in one of several ways.

[djohn2oo8]

937573393792163840
:lol

[pgardn]

Why chaos? The GOP might feel they need to have the Dear Leader's back next year with midterms coming and Trump's popularity with Republican voters to try to fend of primary challengers. Flake and Corker already pussed out on their re-election bids after coming out against Trump. It sure seems like the GOP is scared of him. I don't think they'd do anything but maybe some weak interviews with the press condemning the move if he got Mueller fired.

Oh that would force the hand of way too many Republicans I believe. And then definitely lead to a much easier route to investigate obstruction of justice. If he totally wanted to go to the die hard, I'm with you even if you kill someone, maybe so. This would be incredibly divisive to a party that has just had to use extraordinary means to barely pass a significant bill (simple majority).

I think it would do the opposite of what you have stated.

It would be an amazing event to witness though. I imagine Mueller won't even talk to Trump unless they are both recorded. There is no Hillary Clinton email narrative to justify the firing, there is nothing. Trump could actually give Sessions a huge amount of power to do Trump in, dare him to fire a justice dept employee again. Would be a massive show.

Headline: Trump fires the Judicial Branch of Government. Only two branches left..

[TSA]

https://i.imgur.com/5mAusqR.png

https://i.imgur.com/XrfIe64.png


1. Oh, man. If I’m looking at things right, this OIG report is going to stun the nation. This is going to be MASSIVE.


2. POTUS may already have this report, given his tweets over the last 24 hours. Trump certainly knows about it. Even he seems shocked.

3. Forget Watergate. Forget any scandal you have ever heard about, researched or read about in your lifetimes. The scale of what is going to emerge in the next days and weeks will be unlike anything you have ever considered possible.

4. In the frame - the entire network that enabled Hillary Clinton’s corrupt campaign is about to be exposed & routed. This is the same network - but not all of it - that enabled Obama’s corruption, as well. But there's so much more that will probably be revealed.

5. Here’s the full original statement by the Office of the Inspector General dated Jan 12, 2017 -
oig.justice.gov/press/2017/201…

In this thread, let’s just consider the specific allegations they mention in the statement.

6. 'Allegations that Department or FBI policies or procedures were not followed in connection with, or in actions leading up to or related to, the FBI Director’s public announcement on July 5, 2016, /..

7./...and the Director’s letters to Congress on October 28 and November 6, 2016, and that certain underlying investigative decisions were based on improper considerations;’.

8. Targets : Comey, Lynch, Bill Clinton, McCabe, Strzok. Anyone involved in the fraudulent clearance of Hillary Clinton by James Comey on that fateful day in July, as well as the farcical shut down/cover up of the Human Abedin email trove (November) is about to be nailed.

9. Those not exposed have either flipped on a plea deal, or WILL be exposed. All of them.

Speculating - but I now suspect Strzok & perhaps Lisa Page flipped and were ‘recruited’ by Mueller into his SC, in order to tell the OIG everything they knew.

10. Next - 'Allegations that the FBI Deputy Director should have been recused from participating in certain investigative matters;’

Targets - Andrew McCabe & Comey.

11. This will expose McCabe’s links to the Clintons, especially his accepting some $700,000 as a bribe from the Clintons to cover up the investigations into her classified material. As well as any other shonky conduct he has been up to over the years.

12. Next - 'Allegations that the Department’s Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs improperly disclosed non-public information to the Clinton campaign and/or should have been recused from participating in certain matters;’

13. Target - Peter Kadzic.

This will expose Peter Kadzik’s role investigating & working with Comey / McCabe to shut down the Human Abedin email trove:


14. And also Kadzik's general collusion with the Clinton Campaign itself (note - this email was sent from his gmail to Podesta):

15. Next - 'Allegations that Department and FBI employees improperly disclosed non-public information;’

This will expose the LEAKERS. But also the entire Comey/ McCabe/Kadzik network within the FBI & DoJ may be in the frame here.

16. Note that this is about to drop just after genFlynn quietly departs the scene. Thomas Wictor’s important analysis has revealed Flynn’s masterful role in identifying these individuals.

17. Next - 'Allegations that decisions regarding the timing of the FBI’s release of certain FOIA documents on October 30 and November 1, 2016, and the use of a Twitter account to publicize same, were influenced by improper considerations.'

Oh boy. This is EXTREMELY interesting.

18. On October 30, 2016 FBIRecordsVault , a twitter account that had been inactive since 8 October 2015, suddenly exploded into life again.

There were TWENTY tweets released on October 30, 2016.

19. These included innocuous tweets about Eric Trump, the father of DJT:

And Nikola Tesla :
But there were other tweets, as well.

20. About General Petraus, whose career was ended by Obama for mishandling of classified information :




21. And about a certain infamous politician who had committed far more serious breaches, but always seemed to skate - Hillary Rodham Clinton :




22. On 1 November, the same twitter account tweeted about FBI investigations into a certain infamous President who always seemed to skate, as well - Bill Clinton:

23. Quote - 'The bulk of these records come from a 2001 FBI investigation into the pardon of Marc Rich (1934-2013), aka Marcell David Reich, by President Clinton in 2001.'

24. Targets : Bill Clinton, Eric Holder (the Assistant AG who cleared Rich) & John Podesta (Bill Clinton’s Chief of Staff).

Oh, another thing.

25. Following the pardon, the same Marc Rich helped Bill Clinton set up his Foundation, which used the front of a charity as cover for a massive criminal enterprise involving pay to play, money laundering, /...

26. /..racketeering & tax evasion - at the very least. Crimes Rich had a particular expertise in:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Rich…

27. The final sentence of the OIG statement is often overlooked, but VERY important.

'Finally, if circumstances warrant, the OIG will consider including other issues that may arise during the course of the review.'

28. This essentially authorizes the OIG & DOJ to investigate anything they want arising from the above, which is pretty much everything the Clintons & perhaps even Obama himself, have been up to.

29. Folks, I’m going to say it : #TheStorm IS ABOUT TO HIT. And it's unlike anything we have ever seen before.

BUCKLE UP.

The end.

https://twitter.com/Imperator_Rex3/status/937536769561468928

[Pavlov]

If I’m looking at things right

[TSA]

1. The statement today by the DOJ Office of Inspector General is exceptionally noteworthy. cnn.com/2017/12/02/pol…
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2. What makes the statement noteworthy is that IG investigators don't generally talk when they're in the midst of their investigation.

3. The fact the DOJ Inspector General released a statement, generally implies the underlying investigation is coming to a close. [They are, most likely, in the writing report findings phase.]

4. Many people probably were probably not even aware the Office of Inspector General was investigating the FBI.

5. Those who were aware (the DOJ-OIG was investigating the FBI), likely forgot the investigation was happening because it has been going on for almost 11 months.

6. The investigation began in January of 2017 as an outcome of (righteous) concern the FBI senior leadership was compromised by politics ahead of the mission. oig.justice.gov/press/2017/201…

7. As you can see from the originating memorandum, the Inspector General probe has a wide berth to look at how internal politically corrupting influences might be shaping the outcomes within FBI investigations.

8. the DOJ-OIG anticipated their investigation lasting approximately a year. We are almost at the end of that year. Hence, the likelihood they are assembling a final report.

9. Based on the exceptional amount of controversial FBI decisions in the past several years, there's every reason to believe that IG report will lay bare the politicization at the highest levels of the FBI.

10. That anticipated 'IG-report-reality' is exactly the reason we are seeing this:


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11. No doubt the highest FBI politicized leadership that remains within the FBI is sending coffee talk to Comey (and others including media allies) who are no longer inside.

12. Those internal forces, black hats per se', are also likely the primary leakers from within the FBI over the past several years. They are leaking to media types like the New York Times, Washington Post and to a lesser extent CNN.

13. And that's what explains THIS:

Top FBI official assigned to Mueller’s Russia probe said to have been removed after sending anti-Trump texts
Private conduct of a senior counterintelligence agent and an FBI lawyer could stoke further debate about the bureau’s impartiality.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/two-senior-fbi-officials-on-clinton-trump-probes-exchanged-politically-charged-texts-disparaging-trump/2017/12/02/9846421c-d707-11e7-a986-d0a9770d9a3e_story.html?utm_term=.ea6233a6d2d5

14. In essence, the (generally ignored) year's-long Inspector General report of the top-tier of the FBI is coming to a close. And those *insiders* are leaking to get out ahead of the content of that IG report.

15. Remember, the entire construct of the IG report was based on identifying if politics was driving FBI outcomes. Naturally, there are going to be politicians, beneficiaries of the politicization, who will also join in the effort to undercut the IG findings in advance.

16. The inherent politicization, the BIG PICTURE here, is what explains THIS:

CA Dem. Dianne Feinstein: Senate's Russia probe is building a case for obstructing justice: NBC
Dianne Feinstein told NBC that the Judiciary Committee was exploring a potential obstruction of justice charge against President Donald Trump.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/12/03/dianne-feinstein-says-senate-probing-obstruction-of-justice-vs-trump.html

17. The likelihood of multiple top FBI officials, and more importantly their behavior, being identified by this probe is very high.

18. There's also great trepidation. Publicly showcasing how the FBI has been politicized for the benefit of one political ideology, and creating two sets of justice, is also very dangerous for the chief law enforcement agency of the country.

19. "Outing corrupt FBI officials" is not an endeavor to be taken lightly. In actuality it can undermine the entire system of the way law-and-order is perceived.

20. Think about how you would approach identifying corruption amid the FBI, yet still retaining public confidence within the institution.

21. Initially it might be easy to say: 'who cares, just do it'. However, there are big ramifications if not done correctly, with brutal honesty, and with full disclosure and public sunlight to explain the reasoning therein.

22. In advance of revealing such damaging information, the IG would need absolute impenetrable examples to hold up as evidence. In part because one-half of the ideological enterprise, including media, will seek to tear down any report not favorable to their tribe.

23. Meanwhile, if history serves as an accurate precursor for what follows, the leadership of the adverse political ideology will seek to blame Trump for eroding the trust, faith and integrity of the FBI.

24. It certainly appears the pending IG report on the FBI is what lies behind much of the current activity stirring amid the swamp. The top tier of the FBI, those who will be outed as "Black Hats, also have nothing to lose.

25. This FBI 'zero-sum outlook' explains why the FBI top-tier officials have refused to comply with congressional requests for information.

House Republicans prepare contempt action against FBI, Department of Justice
U.S. House Republicans are drafting a contempt of Congress resolution against Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray, claiming stonewalling in producing material rel…
http://amp.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article187821979.html

26. Why should FBI officials help congress to discover information that shows those same FBI officials are corrupt? The easiest way to avoid oversight is non-compliance with the request from the compliance officers.

27. If you are a corrupt FBI official, inside an agency holding lots of top-tier corrupt FBI officials, and the only risk is political - and your tribe will attack your opponent based purely on ideological alignment, who cares if congress holds you in contempt.

28.

House lawyer urged contempt citations against DOJ, FBI over dossier 'stonewalling'
In an internal House memo obtained by Fox News, a senior counsel for the House Intelligence Committee urged Republican Chairman Devin Nunes three weeks ago to pursue contempt of Congress citations ag…
http://feeds.foxnews.com/~r/foxnews/politics/~3/bfaDMq56sQc/house-lawyer-urged-contempt-citations-against-doj-fbi-over-dossier-stonewalling.html

29. The Black Hat FBI officials have been hunting White Hat leakers adverse to their ideological goals.

Clinton-Lynch tarmac meeting report triggered FBI hunt for leaker, new emails show - Breaking911
Watchdog group Judicial Watch released 29 pages of Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) documents related to the June 27, 2016, tarmac meeting between former Attorney General Loretta Lynch and forme…
http://breaking911.com/new-documents-reveal-fbis-clinton-cover/

30. Meanwhile, President Trump appears fully aware the IG report on the FBI is coming soon to the sunlight. He too gets to hear about leaks. The Black Hats leak to MSM, the White Hats leak to other White Hats.

31. People often think of Trump in narrow terms and forget he worked his way up to being an apex predator in Manhattan real estate by fine-tuning his instincts. He can smell a drop in an ocean. Those instincts are why he seems to have the ability to see around corners.

32. Trump, sort of like a lawyer, doesn't tweet something he doesn't already know the answer to. He baits the media to attack him.

33. This IG investigation is almost finished. No doubt Trump has a great instinct on the contents therein... hence, the tweet-bait. He's setting the stage for the grand reveal, by coaxing, goading, the MSM to chase him.

34. Trump wants media attacks on him, for his criticism of politicized FBI and Intelligence leadership.... because ultimately Trump knows the FBI and Intelligence community have been weaponized by politics. Heck, we all know this.

35. The media will chase him. Critics will blast him... and then all of a sudden, WHAMMO.... here's the year-long IG report on a political FBI leadership team. Which proves what he's been critical of. oig.justice.gov/press/2017/201…

36. And with the full attention of the public upon the dynamic, the issue of faith in the FBI is less consequential than the visible issue of Trump -VS- the Swamp. In essence, Trump protects the White Hats in the FBI by taking the heat upon himself.

37. See how that works?

**THE END**

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/937488924083130368

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[baseline bum]

Oh that would force the hand of way too many Republicans I believe. And then definitely lead to a much easier route to investigate obstruction of justice. If he totally wanted to go to the die hard, I'm with you even if you kill someone, maybe so. This would be incredibly divisive to a party that has just had to use extraordinary means to barely pass a significant bill (simple majority).

I think it would do the opposite of what you have stated.

It would be an amazing event to witness though. I imagine Mueller won't even talk to Trump unless they are both recorded. There is no Hillary Clinton email narrative to justify the firing, there is nothing. Trump could actually give Sessions a huge amount of power to do Trump in, dare him to fire a justice dept employee again. Would be a massive show.

Headline: Trump fires the Judicial Branch of Government. Only two branches left..

Extraordinary means? That's how they passed their tax cut last time under Bush. That's how they were trying to repeal the ACA. Extraordinary means would be doing something that could have gotten 8 Democrat votes to get to 60. You have way too much faith in the GOP breaking from Trump, which doesn't make much any sense to me as we're seeing the party being purged and remade in Trump's image.

[Pavlov]

TheLastRefuge @TheLastRefuge2The fanatical faith you have in anonymous social media posters is hilarious.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Chump still determined to give a platform for fools to go round and round in.

[Reck]

Pgard, take your L, man.

[djohn2oo8]

937659318836584455
My nigga Claude just triggering mothafucks.

[Pavlov]

Chump still determined to give a platform for fools to go round and round in.Nazi babysitter.

[djohn2oo8]

Jesus Christ Trump's lawyer is a fucking moron.

[djohn2oo8]

Lordy Flynn was wearing a wire!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Nazi babysitter.

She was a white power skin. There was a lot of that going on in the NEISD in the the 90s. If you don't believe it fine but at least report what I wrote accurately.

[DarrinS]

937659318836584455
My nigga Claude just triggering mothafucks.

Dershowitz triggering conspiratards

[djohn2oo8]

937676393097453569
lol wow

[djohn2oo8]

Dershowitz triggering conspiratards

937705409732796416
Damn Darrin. You wrong again?

[baseline bum]

Lordy Flynn was wearing a wire!

Lordy I hope there are tapes

[djohn2oo8]

937733874200612864

[djohn2oo8]

Lordy I hope there are tapes

936649681370787840
lndeed.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Lawyer Claims to Be Voice on “Access Hollywood” Tape


https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5a257361c62133102ed3b780/master/w_649,c_limit/Borowitz-Trumps-Lawyer-Claims-to-Be-Voice-on-Access-Hollywood-Tape.jpg

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report))—Hoping to put to rest a mystery that has long bedeviled the nation, Donald J. Trump’s personal lawyer, John Dowd, revealed on Monday that it is actually his voice that appears on the notorious “Access Hollywood” tape.

Speaking to reporters, Dowd said that the so-called locker-room talk attributed to Trump had

actually been carefully crafted by the former reality-show host’s legal team and then read aloud by Dowd himself.\

Additionally, Dowd said that comments widely thought to have been made by

Trump indicating that he believed that Frederick Douglass was still alive were also Dowd’s handiwork.

“President Trump was about to say something about whether Frederick Douglass was alive or not, and I stepped in at that moment and said that he was,” Dowd said. “I stand by that statement.”

Dowd went on to say that other actions attributed to Trump since he took office,

including alienating nato allies,

stating that an imaginary armada was steaming toward North Korea, and

naming Anthony Scaramucci as White House communications director,

were all actually done by Dowd.

“Let’s be clear,” Dowd said.

“Since Donald Trump was elected President, he has done nothing.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trumps-lawyer-claims-to-be-voice-on-access-hollywood-tape (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trumps-lawyer-claims-to-be-voice-on-access-hollywood-tape)

[boutons_deux]

Trump's idiotic 'the lawyer did it' excuse gets much, much more stupid (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/4/1720963/-Trump-s-idiotic-the-lawyer-did-it-excuse-gets-much-much-more-stupid)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/399155/story_image/GettyImages-681461658.jpg?1494433581


Dowd told NBC News that he drafted the tweet and then sent it to White House Social Media Director Dan Scavino to publish.


Really?

And could Dowd produce that email?

When asked for the original email he sent to Scavino,

Dowd said he dictated it orally.


In other words,

he lied,

about his lie,

about his lie.

Right, Kellyanne (https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/937673788094894082)?

Dowd has another simultaneous assault (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/4/1720933/-Trump-s-lawyer-says-he-can-t-obstruct-justice-not-that-he-has-because-he-can-t)on reason underway.

The "President cannot obstruct justice

because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the Constitution's Article II] and

has every right to express his view of any case," Dowd claims.


So …

Trump didn’t do it,

but if he did,

then it can’t be obstruction,

because he can’t obstruct.

But it doesn’t matter,

because Dowd did it.

By email.

Orally.

And Kellyanne saw the whole thing.

Other legal experts agree this is no big deal.


(https://twitter.com/BarristerSecret/status/937249869219139584)
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/644261230123876352/UoD_VSQZ_normal.jpgThe Secret Barrister@BarristerSecret (https://twitter.com/BarristerSecret)

As a lawyer, I can confirm that

I frequently compose tweets confessing to crimes and

send them from my clients’ twitter accounts.

It’s the first thing you learn at law school.

3:19 AM - Dec 3, 2017 (https://twitter.com/BarristerSecret/status/937249869219139584)


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1720963

[spurraider21]

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Lol if you hang out with someone you must know all about his criminal activities. This is pizzagate level

[djohn2oo8]

Lol if you hang out with someone you must know all about his criminal activities. This is pizzagate level
Everybody knew about Epstein. Bill too.

[boutons_deux]

Trump May Think He’s Legally Immune From Obstruction Indictment. He’s Wrong.

Dershowitz didn’t say that presidents are immune from all obstruciton charges.

He said to charge a president with such an offense, “you need clearly illegal acts …

hush money paid,

telling people to lie,

destroying evidence,”

Like so many things in the pre-Trump age, immunity was essentially assumed, and barely analyzed.

St. Clair wrote in his brief (https://mobile.nytimes.com/1998/01/25/weekinreview/the-nation-a-primer-prosecuting-a-president.html), “It has never been seriously disputed by legal scholars, jurists, or constitutional authorities that a President may not be indicted while he is an incumbent.”

St. Clair was right. It never has been seriously disputed by anyone. But that sure doesn’t mean that it couldn’t be. St. Clair had two main arguments for presidential immunity:

1) because the entire power of the executive branch vests in the president alone, it’s ridiculous to think he could be subject to prosecution; and

2) because the Constitutional provision on impeachment specifically says that an impeached official is subject to prosecution after removal from office,

the framers must have meant that those officials couldn’t be prosecuted before they were removed from office.

While those are certainly reasonable arguments, they’re not even close to air-tight.

Trump’s arrogant above-the-law persona doesn’t mix well with the judiciary, and

even judges would be willing to find presidents immune,

I’d be shocked to see them do so on these grounds.

Jaworski also noted that the clause in the Constitution applied to all officials who are subject to impeachment, not just to the President.

To me, that makes the interpretation pretty obvious.

Officials other than the president can certainly be prosecuted;

therefore, it’s not really logical to conclude that the clause prohibited prosecutions of the president or anyone else.

https://lawandcrime.com/legal-analysis/trump-may-think-hes-legally-immune-from-obstruction-indictment-hes-wrong/

Trash gave the letter LYING about the meeting with the Russian to DJTJr, so that is CLEARLY obstruction of justice and "telling" DJTJr to lie, satisfying Dershowitz.

[boutons_deux]

“Dowd is basically arguing that as the chief law enforcement officer,

Trump has the authority to block investigations

into himself, his allies and into his friends, and

nothing he does can be construed as obstruction of justice,”

Matthew Miller, a former Justice Department spokesman, told me this morning.

“The logical extension of all this is that Trump can try to remove Mueller and it would be entirely legitimate.”

Trump is amplifying a narrative that his media allies have banged away at in recent weeks, one designed to

goad Trump (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/10/31/trump-and-his-allies-are-laying-the-groundwork-for-a-saturday-night-massacre/?utm_term=.db6d5a40cffd) into going full authoritarian.

The basic idea is that Mueller and the FBI are themselves corrupt — Clinton is not being investigated, but Trump’s campaign is — so the only way to set things right is to close down Mueller’s probe.

The bottom line: Trump’s legal and/or political exposure — and that of his top advisers — appears to have grown.

And given Trump’s response, so too has the possibility that he will try to put a stop to the investigation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/12/04/its-time-to-ask-every-republican-this-question-about-trump-and-mueller/?undefined=&utm_term=.05ee52279d7f&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s lawyer: the president can’t obstruct justice.

13 legal experts: yes, he can.

“Dowd’s argument is the last refuge of a scoundrel, and it would lead us down a path to despotism.”

https://www.vox.com/2017/12/4/16733422/fbi-deal-trump-flynn-russia-comey

[TSA]

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[Pavlov]

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Man, TSA is trying really hard these days.

Good news.

Got your "Flynn's intentional commission of a felony to expose the baby eaters" theory ready yet?

[TSA]

To recap: Flynn brought counter intel spooks into the NSC (more than Cattler), got them TS/SCI clearances which they retained after Flynn's resignation in order to assist the administration in tracking down the leaks coming from within the USIC.

937741488645070849

[Reck]

Yeah ok. What happens when your fantasy doesn't pan out again, TSA?

Might as well show us your next spin ahead of time.

[boutons_deux]

Who Lied to Who When and Why It Barely Matters

https://dawm7kda6y2v0.cloudfront.net/uploads/2017/11/[email protected]

.....

What does that all mean? Certainly it means that the ‘he fired because he lied to Pence” explanation for Flynn’s firing was bogus.

Why?

Because the whole senior staff knew these claims were false and let the falsehood stand for weeks.

It also makes it very likely that the whole discussion about just when Yates said this and McGahn said that is meaningless since Trump and Pence likely knew all of this more than a month before Flynn was fired.

Flynn was very tight with Trump.

I think it’s highly unlikely that Trump didn’t know Flynn was interviewed on the day in question.

It’s likely they discussed it.

They were talking all the time.

In any case, continuing to discuss this question on the basis of the ‘Flynn lied to Pence’ canard or when Sally Yates brought the news to the White House just means

we’re trying to understand what happened within the framework of what we now know are lies.

We shouldn’t.

Trump’s top advisors knew the true nature of the calls and repeatedly lied about it to reporters.

This is the only plausible read of the the current evidence.

They allowed Pence’s false statements to stand for weeks, which amounts to a furtherance of those lies.

We’re simply not dealing with something the key people found out in late January.

This was a cover-up, a string of publicly verified deceptions that went back to the beginning of the month.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/who-lied-to-who-when-and-why-it-barely-matters?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[Pavlov]

To recap: Flynn brought counter intel spooks into the NSC (more than Cattler), got them TS/SCI clearances which they retained after Flynn's resignation in order to assist the administration in tracking down the leaks coming from within the USIC.

937741488645070849Do you have any thoughts of your own or are you just going to play social media repost bot from here on out?

[djohn2oo8]

Not a surprise in the least TSA following some asshole named Galatic Redpill.

[djohn2oo8]

Do you have any thoughts of your own or are you just going to play social media repost bot from here on out?

All of his predictions have been wrong so I guess he only has bots left.

[boutons_deux]

Why the Trump Team Should Fear the Logan Act

The Logan Act (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/953) makes it a crime for a United States citizen, “without authority” from the federal government, to communicate with foreign officials in order to “influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government” in a dispute with the United States or “to defeat the measures of the United States.”

A conviction can result in a prison sentence of up to three years.

The statute, which has been on the books since the early days of the republic, reflects an important principle.

The president is — as the Supreme Court has said time (https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16160678651618183198&q=curtiss+wright+%22sole+organ%22&hl=en&as_sdt=400006) and again (https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16655038412990051708&q=curtiss+wright+%22sole+organ%22&hl=en&as_sdt=400006) — “the sole organ of the nation in its external relations.”

If private citizens could hold themselves out as representatives of the United States and work at cross-purposes with the president’s own diplomatic objectives, the president’s ability to conduct foreign relations would be severely hampered.

The statute applies squarely to Mr. Flynn.

According to court filings, a “very senior member” of the Trump transition team told Mr. Flynn on or about Dec. 22, 2016, to contact officials from Russia and other foreign governments regarding a resolution (http://www.un.org/webcast/pdfs/SRES2334-2016.pdf) pending before the United Nations Security Council that condemned Israeli settlement activity.

Mr. Flynn then asked the Russian ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak, to delay a vote on the resolution or use Russia’s veto to prevent it from passing.

The conversation between Mr. Flynn and Mr. Kislyak about the Security Council resolution clearly falls within the Logan Act’s scope.

The Obama administration, frustrated with Israeli settlement activity, had chosen not to use its veto to block the measure.

Mr. Flynn’s overture to Russia was thus an attempt to countermand the current administration’s decision regarding a highly sensitive foreign policy subject.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/04/opinion/trump-team-flynn-logan-act.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Obviously, Obama firing Flynn, in retrospect, was fully justified.

Flynn is a lawless, corrupt asshole, is still very cherished by lawless, corrupt asshole Trash.

[dabom]

Boom.

[Reck]

937742126984716288

It only gets worse.

[dabom]

Boom X2.

[dabom]

Undermining US interests and Obstruction. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Michael Flynn’s Guilty Plea Sends Donald Trump’s Lawyers Scrambling

The President insists that the investigations into Russian meddling amount to nothing more than fake news. But the truth is now emerging.

“I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go,” Trump said. “He is a good guy.”

Trump is not generally known for his magnanimous impulses toward former associates,

so the question of why he wanted the F.B.I. to ease up on Flynn became a matter of intense debate.

We may now know the reason.

...

George Mason, one of the most eloquent of the Framers,

asked rhetorically during the Constitutional Convention,

“Shall the man who has practiced corruption & by that means procured his appointment in the first instance,

be suffered to escape punishment, by repeating his guilt?”

As Sunstein told me, “If you procure your office by corrupt means, that would be an impeachable offense.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/11/michael-flynns-guilty-plea-sends-donald-trumps-lawyers-scrambling

A very long read, but Trash and his crime family mafiya require much more than sound bites

[Reck]

Not a surprise in the least TSA following some asshole named Galatic Redpill.

:lol

TSA follows theorists. Shocker.

[pgardn]

Extraordinary means? That's how they passed their tax cut last time under Bush. That's how they were trying to repeal the ACA. Extraordinary means would be doing something that could have gotten 8 Democrat votes to get to 60. You have way too much faith in the GOP breaking from Trump, which doesn't make much any sense to me as we're seeing the party being purged and remade in Trump's image.

I don't see it that way at all.
I see the GOP splitting. Trump has taken some giant lumps after 1 year. What have they done? Passed 1 bill of significance and totally dropped the ball on health care after having many years to plan a better system? The wall. The coal jobs... Presidents make most of their big moves 1st year. The only thing Trump has in his favor is his record of getting anything done can't get much worse. When health care gets even worse, and the middle class sees it loses ground...

The democrats better get their shit together as they may be using a simple majority with no discussion to thwart any changes Trump might initiate. Trump may even align with Democrats after 2018 if it goes well for Democrats. He seriously has no real principles, he goes with whatever wins.

[djohn2oo8]

937742126984716288

It only gets worse.

Yep.

[boutons_deux]

Trash and the Repug Congress are IDENTICAL in their policies. There is no, will not be any "split"

Trash is a symptom of 50 years of the oligarchy's strategy, not a cause.

Trash very probably knew not a single of his cabinet members and certainly none their staffs, which all together comprise a destructive, predatory kakistocracy handed to Trash by the Repugs.

split? G M A F B

[djohn2oo8]

937776020920373248

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24294137_717188548621154_3059590845626880960_n.png ?oh=b4d9ba9c611c340182b4ccbfaf6f789c&oe=5A989BA2

[dabom]

Even the tweets are pics. :lol

[dabom]

And that's not how you spell Bannon. :lmao

[dabom]

Fake twitter pic. Shocking. :lol :lol

[dabom]

Steve Bannen (https://twitter.com/SteveBannen)@SteveBannen (https://twitter.com/SteveBannen)White House Chief Strategist. Parody account.

:lmao

[Splits]

Steve Bannen (https://twitter.com/SteveBannen)

@SteveBannen (https://twitter.com/SteveBannen)

White House Chief Strategist. Parody account.

:lmao

lol Chris proving once again he's the stupidest motherfucker on this board

[dabom]

Can we also note that he has more followers than the real Bannon. Fucking right wing nuts. :lol

[TSA]

937365888444936192

937780198916866048

[djohn2oo8]

Can we also note that he has more followers than the real Bannon. Fucking right wing nuts. :lol

How Ironic. Chris posting fake news :lmao

[baseline bum]

I don't see it that way at all.
I see the GOP splitting. Trump has taken some giant lumps after 1 year. What have they done? Passed 1 bill of significance and totally dropped the ball on health care after having many years to plan a better system? The wall. The coal jobs... Presidents make most of their big moves 1st year. The only thing Trump has in his favor is his record of getting anything done can't get much worse. When health care gets even worse, and the middle class sees it loses ground...

The democrats better get their shit together as they may be using a simple majority with no discussion to thwart any changes Trump might initiate. Trump may even align with Democrats after 2018 if it goes well for Democrats. He seriously has no real principles, he goes with whatever wins.

Are you serious? The tax bill is the most important thing possible to the GOP and he got 51/52 votes for it from his senate. He's going to destroy the ACA by getting rid of the mandate, Trump and the billionaires who run the party get a fat windfall, there will be automatic cuts to Medicare and Medicaid from the budget sequester being triggered to pay for that windfall, he's sticking it to blue states with inability to deduct state taxes, he's sticking it to graduate students by increasing their taxes hugely. The wall is just some stupid shit to get votes, it doesn't matter whether he builds it or not. There is no way to get the coal jobs back but it's a hammer he'll use effectively against Democrats because facts don't matter. This tax bill is fucking mission accomplished even if the GOP loses the house and Trump becomes the same lame duck president Obama was after the GOP took the house in 2011.

[Chris]

Is Mueller Aiming To Impeach Trump Rather Than Investigate Crime?


On Friday, I posited that special prosecutor Robert Mueller may have nothing of serious interest on the Trump administration other than certain officials lying to the FBI to cover up a non-crime: conversations between those officials and members of the Russian government after the election, relating to policy that would be implemented upon inauguration.

Over the weekend, the case for that grew stronger.

The biggest problem with the Mueller investigation has always been its scope. What, exactly, was Mueller investigating? Andrew McCarthy at National Review always suggested that the investigation wasn’t criminal — it was a counterintelligence investigation. What’s the difference? A criminal investigation would pursue proof of crime — and collusion with Russia isn’t a crime (conspiracy is, but it has not been close to proved), nor can the President of the United States be criminally charged with obstruction of justice for firing employees of the executive branch for any reason at all. So what’s all this about? Thus far, it appears to be a fishing expedition designed to elicit charges of lying to the FBI.

Here’s McCarthy:

Mueller’s investigation was not a criminal investigation. It started out as a fishing expedition, under the vaporous heading of “collusion,” into “contacts” between Russian officials and Trump associates — notwithstanding that collusion is not conspiracy and that it was perfectly legal for Trump associates to have contacts with Russia (just like Clinton associates did). It was to be expected that the Trump campaign and transition would have such contacts once it was apparent that Trump could well become — and did in fact become — the next president of the United States.

No collusion has been shown. Zero criminal activity has been charged beyond lying to the FBI (which is, of course, a crime) — and it seems so far that Team Trump’s lies to the FBI had less to do with lying over criminal behavior and more to do with lying out of ignorance of the law. That’s still lying, but it’s Scooter Libby-type lying, not Richard Nixon-type lying. At least Watergate involved underlying criminal activity. There’s no proof of any underlying criminal activity here whatsoever (and please, spare me the Logan Act commentary — that probably-unconstitutional piece of law has never earned a single conviction).

McCarthy rightly concludes:

The ongoing Mueller probe is not a good-faith investigation of suspected espionage or other crime. It is the exploitation of the executive’s intelligence-gathering and law-enforcement powers in order to (a) criminalize Trump political policies with which the Obama administration disagreed and (b) frame Clinton’s electoral defeat as the product of a traitorous scheme rather than a rejection of Democratic-party priorities.

This was always the danger of a special counsel, and it’s why Trump is so angry at Attorney General Jeff Sessions for recusing himself. It’s also why Trump should never have fired James Comey, or at least why Trump should have fired him himself rather than implicating Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in that effort, which earned him a special counsel.

Nonetheless, if push comes to shove, Trump will be hard-pressed not to treat anyone indicted for lying to the FBI over non-crime the same way George W. Bush treated Libby: by pardoning or commuting sentences. And Trump will be hard-pressed not to fire Mueller if Mueller continues racking up weak indictments based on lying to the FBI, rather than on any serious underlying criminal activity. Would doing so amount to “obstruction of justice”? For political impeachment purposes, perhaps. But not for legal purposes. Here’s what I wrote about that back in June:

There are three separate federal laws, as The New York Times points out, that could deal with this situation. None clearly does.

1. 18 USC 1503: This “omnibus” clause covers “corruptly or… by any threatening letter or communication influenc[ing], or imped[ing] or endeavor[ing[ to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice.” But the clause also requires a pending judicial proceeding – and as far as we are all aware, there is none. Furthermore, the Supreme Court is quite exacting on the application of this law – a prosecutor would need to prove that Trump’s conduct materially impeded the investigation, which even Comey has said didn’t happen.

2. 18 USC 1512(c): This provision of law covers anyone who “obstructs, influences, or impedes an official proceeding, or attempts to do so.” It is not clear that an FBI investigation is an “official proceeding,” and proving intent is difficult in any case. And it’s not enough to show intent to violate the subsection – you have to take a “substantial step toward the accomplishment of that goal.”

3. 18 USC 1519: This provision covers destroying evidence related to a federal investigation. There are no accusations that Trump destroyed evidence. Unless Trump had tapes and destroyed them, the statue simply doesn’t apply.

So, we may end up with an impeachment based on the president exercising his power under law, based on a special counsel exceeding his brief and charging people who lied to him for no good reason. It’s hard to imagine a proceeding more damaging to the country than that.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/24265/mueller-aiming-impeach-trump-rather-investigate-ben-shapiro

[Spurminator]

Yeah, but what about Muellor's investigation, Chris?

[djohn2oo8]

Hey Chris wanna post anymore parody accounts?

[Reck]

Can we also note that he has more followers than the real Bannon. Fucking right wing nuts. :lol

For real? :lol

Parody accounts having more followers than the real person. :lmao

[Pavlov]

Yeah, but what about Muellor's investigation, Chris?I read that he's out to impeach Tromp rather than investigate crime!

[djohn2oo8]

Yeah, but what about Muellor's investigation, Chris?

:lol

[Pavlov]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24294137_717188548621154_3059590845626880960_n.png ?oh=b4d9ba9c611c340182b4ccbfaf6f789c&oe=5A989BA2Quoted for posterity.

:lmao

[Pavlov]

937780198916866048Hey, TSAbot is back!

:lol He's never gonna commit again after pizzagate.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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https://media.giphy.com/media/WuGSL4LFUMQU/giphy.gif

[djohn2oo8]

937782550088609793
:lol

[djohn2oo8]

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Manafort just can't help himself

[djohn2oo8]

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How fucking stupid can you be

[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

937560716307034112

:lol Why is every Trumpie on Putin's cock so much? For fuck's sake, man. What is going on.

[dabom]

Boom X3.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[boutons_deux]

937809558298333184

aka, Congressional perjury, was she under oath?

[djohn2oo8]

937812723567603715

[djohn2oo8]

aka, Congressional perjury, was she under oath?

Yup.

[dabom]

At what point does "I forgot" for a ton of people stop working, and start being a consorted effort to lie as a group? :lol

[TSA]

937780198916866048

FBI agent dismissed from Mueller probe changed Comey's description of Clinton to 'extremely careless'

(CNN) A former top counterintelligence expert at the FBI, now at the center of a political uproar for exchanging private messages that appeared to mock President Donald Trump, changed a key phrase in former FBI Director James Comey's description of how former secretary of state Hillary Clinton handled classified information, according to US officials familiar with the matter.

Electronic records show Peter Strzok, who led the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server as the No. 2 official in the counterintelligence division, changed Comey's earlier draft language describing Clinton's actions as "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless," the source said.

The drafting process was a team effort, CNN is told, with a handful of people reviewing the language as edits were made, according to another US official familiar with the matter.

The shift from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless," which may appear pedestrian at first glance, reflected a decision by the FBI that could have had potentially significant legal implications, as the federal law governing the mishandling of classified material establishes criminal penalties for "gross negligence."

Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, raised questions over why the change was made after receiving documents from the FBI last month, but the identity of who was behind the edit has not been reported until now.

CNN has also learned that Strzok was the FBI official who signed the document officially opening an investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, according to sources familiar with the matter. As the No. 2 official in counterintelligence, Strzok was considered to be one of the bureau's top experts on Russia.

But the news of Strzok's direct role in the statement that ultimately cleared the former Democratic presidential candidate of criminal wrongdoing, now combined with the fact that he was dismissed from special counsel Robert Mueller's team after exchanging private messages with an FBI lawyer that could be seen as favoring Clinton politically, may give ammunition to those seeking ways to discredit Mueller's Russia investigation.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/12/04/politics/peter-strzok-james-comey/index.html

[Pavlov]

KT lied on purpose so she can be convicted of a felony and take down Obama, just like Flynn did.

[dabom]

House of cards is falling.

[Pavlov]

FBI agent dismissed from Mueller probe changed Comey's description of Clinton to 'extremely careless'

(CNN) A former top counterintelligence expert at the FBI, now at the center of a political uproar for exchanging private messages that appeared to mock President Donald Trump, changed a key phrase in former FBI Director James Comey's description of how former secretary of state Hillary Clinton handled classified information, according to US officials familiar with the matter.

Electronic records show Peter Strzok, who led the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server as the No. 2 official in the counterintelligence division, changed Comey's earlier draft language describing Clinton's actions as "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless," the source said.

The drafting process was a team effort, CNN is told, with a handful of people reviewing the language as edits were made, according to another US official familiar with the matter.

The shift from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless," which may appear pedestrian at first glance, reflected a decision by the FBI that could have had potentially significant legal implications, as the federal law governing the mishandling of classified material establishes criminal penalties for "gross negligence."

Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, raised questions over why the change was made after receiving documents from the FBI last month, but the identity of who was behind the edit has not been reported until now.

CNN has also learned that Strzok was the FBI official who signed the document officially opening an investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, according to sources familiar with the matter. As the No. 2 official in counterintelligence, Strzok was considered to be one of the bureau's top experts on Russia.

But the news of Strzok's direct role in the statement that ultimately cleared the former Democratic presidential candidate of criminal wrongdoing, now combined with the fact that he was dismissed from special counsel Robert Mueller's team after exchanging private messages with an FBI lawyer that could be seen as favoring Clinton politically, may give ammunition to those seeking ways to discredit Mueller's Russia investigation.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/12/04/politics/peter-strzok-james-comey/index.htmlHey, TSAbot is back!

[boutons_deux]

Yup.

"as described above", neat lawyerly qualification/escape clause. Nasty fucking people, Trash's mafiya

[djohn2oo8]

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[Chris]

Mueller and his team are under 11 month long criminal investigation by the Justice Department. Possible indictments coming before Christmas. :tu

[Pavlov]

Mueller and his team are under 11 month long criminal investigation by the Justice Department. Possible indictments coming before Christmas. :tuDid Steve Bannen tell you that?

[Pavlov]

Mueller and his team are under 11 month long criminal investigation by the Justice Department. Possible indictments coming before Christmas. :tuHow could his team be under investigation before it was even formed, Chris?

:lmao

[DarrinS]

So, when does Hal reboot these things?

[dabom]

937812723567603715

Boom X4.

[dabom]

Did Steve Bannen tell you that?

:lol

[pgardn]

Extraordinary means? That's how they passed their tax cut last time under Bush. That's how they were trying to repeal the ACA. Extraordinary means would be doing something that could have gotten 8 Democrat votes to get to 60. You have way too much faith in the GOP breaking from Trump, which doesn't make much any sense to me as we're seeing the party being purged and remade in Trump's image.

Yes.



Are you serious? The tax bill is the most important thing possible to the GOP and he got 51/52 votes for it from his senate. He's going to destroy the ACA by getting rid of the mandate, Trump and the billionaires who run the party get a fat windfall, there will be automatic cuts to Medicare and Medicaid from the budget sequester being triggered to pay for that windfall, he's sticking it to blue states with inability to deduct state taxes, he's sticking it to graduate students by increasing their taxes hugely. The wall is just some stupid shit to get votes, it doesn't matter whether he builds it or not. There is no way to get the coal jobs back but it's a hammer he'll use effectively against Democrats because facts don't matter. This tax bill is fucking mission accomplished even if the GOP loses the house and Trump becomes the same lame duck president Obama was after the GOP took the house in 2011.

And Yes.


I will get back.
Good exercise.
Gotta shower
Gotta eat
Gotta watch my Spurs.

[Chris]

“There’s been absolutely no collusion, so we’re very happy.” - Trump

[dabom]

“There’s been absolutely no collusion, so we’re very happy.” - Trump

That guy never lies. :tu

[Pavlov]

“There’s been absolutely no collusion, so we’re very happy.” - TrumpJust multiple convictions for lying about Russian contacts, and it looks like more in the works.

Why did they all lie, Chris?

[Reck]

“There’s been absolutely no collusion, so we’re very happy.” - Trump

Did he say that while eating two bic macs and a pair of filet o fish with a super size order of fries?

[djohn2oo8]

Don't even pay any attention to Chris. He can't go one day without coming to this thread.

[Chris]

Don't even pay any attention to Chris.

Your request for a safe space has been noted.

[dabom]

Your request for a safe space has been noted.

Trump wants to build a wall, for safe space reasons.

[Chris]

Trump wants to build a wall, for safe space reasons.

Nope. It's actually to keep the Mexicans out. :tu

[dabom]

Nope. It's actually to keep the Mexicans out. :tu

That racist POS. Glad you posted that. :tu

[dabom]

Can we also note that Chris confirmed Trumpy is a racist.

[djohn2oo8]

Can we also note that Chris confirmed Trumpy is a racist.

Chris is a fake Christian much like Joel Osteen only a lot less rich.

[TSA]

937815629964263424

[Pavlov]

937815629964263424Hey, TSAbot is back!

Dude's still not even saying anything. :lol

[Chris]

937815629964263424

Trump lets it all unfold. Trump.

[dabom]

Tons of partisan investigations didn't find shit on Hillary. :lol

Let's blame the FBI for not finding shit either. :lmao

[Pavlov]

Trump lets it all unfold. Trump.:lol once again Chris has no idea what he's talking about. Chris.

[Reck]

Trump lets it all unfold. Trump.

He let's it drip.

[DarrinS]

Tons of partisan investigations didn't find shit on Hillary. :lol

Let's blame the FBI for not finding shit either. :lmao


Shapiro’s tweet suggests that the FBI is highly politicized. Something the Dems strongly believed a year ago.

[Spurminator]

The phrase "anti-Trump FBI agent" is used like it's somehow unusual for an FBI agent to think Trump is shitty.

[Chris]

Shapiro’s tweet suggests that the FBI is highly politicized. Something the Dems strongly believed a year ago.

Their memories are selective much like their outrage.

[dabom]

Shapiro’s tweet suggests that the FBI is highly politicized. Something the Dems strongly believed a year ago.

And it's wrong.

[Chris]

"I don't think ever in my career have I felt more rage and disappointment and frustration that I felt through this weekend and through the last half of Friday.

I don't even know how many times we've talked about this, how many times we have talked about the need to get it right. That how we have to be right and not first. About how in this particular moment, with the stakes as high as these stakes are right now, we cannot afford to get it wrong. ...

The thing that compounded our mistake is that not only did we make a mistake, if we had then corrected ourselves right away, again — we wouldn't be in this position. It would have been a very different story. But we ended up in the impossible situation where we had actually conflicting information that we said on air, which conflicted with the information that was online. And then it took us seven hours, eight hours to get our story straight. This is not acceptable. It's not acceptable. And we will all pay the price for a long time."

[dabom]

I don't read walls of texts. How about you argue with actual points. You can start anytime.

[DarrinS]

And it's wrong.

It’s filled with people. And people..., well, you get the point.

[djohn2oo8]

Funny how Trump turds say the FBI is highly politicized when they were chanting for them to lock Hillary up. Bunch of triggered cunts who never stopped getting fed their mammy's titty.

[dabom]

It’s filled with people. And people..., well, you get the point.

And that doesn't make it politicized. That's like every company.

[Pavlov]

Shapiro’s tweet suggests that the FBI is highly politicized. Something the Dems strongly believed a year ago.Do you think the FBI is highly politicized, Darrin?

Yes or no.

[Reck]

'The FBI is Trumpland': anti-Clinton atmosphere spurred leaking, sources say
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump

Just leaving this here for posterity sake.

[DarrinS]

Funny how Trump turds say the FBI is highly politicized when they were chanting for them to lock Hillary up. Bunch of triggered cunts who never stopped getting fed their mammy's titty.

You’re almost at boutons’ level of Tourettes. Nice. :tu

[djohn2oo8]

And that doesn't make it politicized. That's like every company.

He's all leaky because Hillary nor Susan Rice got locked up.

[DarrinS]

Do you think the FBI is highly politicized, Darrin?

Yes or no.

Yes. I’m sure most federal bureaucracies are politicized.

[djohn2oo8]

You’re almost at boutons’ level of Tourettes. Nice. :tu

Oh yeah? Like your retarded theory that Flynn lied on purpose over a non crime. :lol

[Chris]

Mueller’s investigation is failing: Chris Farrell

Friday, December 1, 2017 – 8:09 – Judicial Watch Director of Investigations and Research Chris Farrell on “Lou Dobbs Tonight” on the Fox Business Network discussing the Clinton-Lynch tarmac documents the DOJ recently turned over to Judicial Watch and what the Flynn plea deal means going forward for the Mueller-Russia investigation.

VIDEO: http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5664893542001/?#sp=show-clips

[djohn2oo8]

Yes. I’m sure most federal bureaucracies are politicized.

Actually no. Federal Law enforcement agencies are not.

[Pavlov]

Yes. I’m sure most federal bureaucracies are politicized.Highly politicized in what way?

[Reck]

Yes. I’m sure most federal bureaucracies are politicized.

:lmao

Never go full retard, Darrin.

If that were true, then there is no way this agency could operate or exist.

[dabom]

Mueller’s investigation is failing: Chris Farrell

Friday, December 1, 2017 – 8:09 – Judicial Watch Director of Investigations and Research Chris Farrell on “Lou Dobbs Tonight” on the Fox Business Network discussing the Clinton-Lynch tarmac documents the DOJ recently turned over to Judicial Watch and what the Flynn plea deal means going forward for the Mueller-Russia investigation.

VIDEO: http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5664893542001/?#sp=show-clips

Here I just thought Flynn cooperating was just the beginning. :lol

[Pavlov]

Mueller’s investigation is failing: Chris Farrell

Friday, December 1, 2017 – 8:09 – Judicial Watch Director of Investigations and Research Chris Farrell on “Lou Dobbs Tonight” on the Fox Business Network discussing the Clinton-Lynch tarmac documents the DOJ recently turned over to Judicial Watch and what the Flynn plea deal means going forward for the Mueller-Russia investigation.

VIDEO: http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5664893542001/?#sp=show-clips:lol you're trying way too hard.

[Reck]

Oh yeah? Like your retarded theory that Flynn lied on purpose over a non crime. :lol

That wasn't him. It was TSA.

Although these days, these guys are all generic and fit the one category so I can see why you got confused.

[Chris]

Here I just thought Flynn cooperating was just the beginning. :lol

Flynn's cooperation only proves he has nothing to fear.

[djohn2oo8]

That wasn't him. It was TSA.

Although these days, these guys are all generic and fit the one category so I can see why you got confused.

Darrin posted about it as well.

[dabom]

Flynn's cooperation only proves he has nothing to fear.

http://crankycoder.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/What-Meme-13.jpg

[djohn2oo8]

Flynn's cooperation only proves he has nothing to fear.

So why would he lie to the feds? :lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Judicial Watch, National Review, Fox News, Breitbart, Project Veritas, Daily Caller, Washington Examiner

It's like our local GOP sycophants don't understand the notion of objective journalism.

[Chris]

:lol you're trying way too hard.

Didn't read or listen. Personal dig plus emoji. Pavlov, ladies and gentlemen.

[Reck]

Flynn's cooperation only proves he has nothing to fear.

Well damn. I agree with you for once.

As long as Flynn keeps being a good boy and provide the goods, he'll be fine.

[Chris]

Well damn. I agree with you for once.

As long as Flynn keeps being a good boy and provide the goods, he'll be fine.

So far, so good.

[djohn2oo8]

Well damn. I agree with you for once.

As long as Flynn keeps being a good boy and provide the goods, he'll be fine.

Flynn has multiple investigations and charges awaiting. No matter what.

[DarrinS]

:lmao

Never go full retard, Darrin.

If that were true, then there is no way this agency could operate or exist.



Remember when...?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snGjsl_eGkg

[djohn2oo8]

Remember when...?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snGjsl_eGkg

You try so hard and still come up with nothing.

[Spurminator]

So your claim is that Clinton may have been insufficiently investigated because the FBI is highly politicized, and your evidence that the FBI is politicized is the criticism Comey received for reopening the Clinton investigation.

[DarrinS]

You try so hard and still come up with nothing.

No one tries harder than you, John. :cry

[DarrinS]

So your claim is that Clinton may have been insufficiently investigated because the FBI is highly politicized, and your evidence that the FBI is politicized is the criticism Comey received for reopening the Clinton investigation.

Who are you addressing?

[djohn2oo8]

No one tries harder than you, John. :cry

No one fails harder than the Pizzagate crew.

[Spurminator]

Who are you addressing?

The only person who has seemed to imply both of those things within the last dozen posts or so.