Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[TSA]

Read the part where I talked about exhaustive and try again. If I don't respond its not because I am surrendering the point but rather that you are too stupid to grasp the rebuttal I made.

No, you are just surrendering the point.

Flynn's discussions with Kislyak were not illegal. Flynn lying to the FBI about his discussions was illegal. Nothing more, nothing less.

[monosylab1k]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GsE8EzKmuPA/maxresdefault.jpg

[Pavlov]

No, you are just surrendering the point.

Flynn's discussions with Kislyak were not illegal. Flynn lying to the FBI about his discussions was illegal. Nothing more, nothing less.So why lie about it?

[TSA]

936632920005111808

A transition team member doing transition team member things :wow

[RandomGuy]

Nevertheless, as I explained in connection with George Papadopoulos (who also pled guilty in Mueller’s investigation for lying to the FBI), when a prosecutor has a cooperator who was an accomplice in a major criminal scheme, the cooperator is made to plead guilty to the scheme. This is critical because it proves the existence of the scheme. In his guilty-plea allocution (the part of a plea proceeding in which the defendant admits what he did that makes him guilty), the accomplice explains the scheme and the actions taken by himself and his co-conspirators to carry it out. This goes a long way toward proving the case against all of the subjects of the investigation.

That is not happening in Flynn’s situation. Instead, like Papadopoulos, he is being permitted to plead guilty to a mere process crime. A breaking report from ABC News indicates that Flynn is prepared to testify that Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians — initially to lay the groundwork for mutual efforts against ISIS in Syria. That, however, is exactly the sort of thing the incoming national-security adviser is supposed to do in a transition phase between administrations. If it were part of the basis for a “collusion” case arising out of Russia’s election meddling, then Flynn would not be pleading guilty to a process crime — he’d be pleading guilty to an espionage conspiracy.

Understand: If Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador had evinced the existence of a quid pro quo collusion arrangement — that the Trump administration would ease or eliminate sanctions on Russia as a payback for Russia’s cyber-espionage against the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic party — it would have been completely appropriate, even urgently necessary, for the Obama Justice Department to investigate Flynn. But if that had happened, Mueller would not be permitting Flynn to settle the case with a single count of lying to FBI agents. Instead, we would be looking at a major conspiracy indictment, and Flynn would be made to plead to far more serious offenses if he wanted a deal — cooperation in exchange for sentencing leniency.

To the contrary, for all the furor, we have a small-potatoes plea in Flynn’s case — just as we did in Papadopoulos’s case, despite extensive “collusion” evidence. Meanwhile, the only major case Mueller has brought, against former Trump-campaign chairman Paul Manafort and an associate, has nothing to do with the 2016 election. It is becoming increasingly palpable that, whatever “collusion” means, there was no actionable, conspiratorial complicity by the Trump campaign in the Kremlin’s machinations.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454269/michael-flynn-plea-no-breakthrough-russia-investigation

buzzkill

http://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/195704_600.jpg?w=600

Or as it should really be called "Stupid Watergate"

[TSA]

So why lie about it?

Don't know and I'm curious myself.

[monosylab1k]

Flynn was just doing his job :cry everybody gets federally indicted and pleads guilty at some point in the line of doing their job :cry

[Pavlov]

Don't know and I'm curious myself.It's not like he's the only one who lied.

[RandomGuy]

936632920005111808

A transition team member doing transition team member things :wow

Nothing to see here, no reason to lie about anything.

oh wait, he pled guilty to... lying.

What did he plead guilty to lying about again? refresh my memory :lmao

[RandomGuy]

936632920005111808

A transition team member doing transition team member things :wow

You didn't read the whole thing did you. The sanctions on Russia were also discussed, and lied about, just like the OP said, in an attempt to create a quid-pro-quo.

[Reck]

936632920005111808

A transition team member doing transition team member things :wow

Why do you keep reposting this?

Guy just pleaded guilty and fessed up about inquiring about foreign help because he was instructed to do so. By what one can assume was Trump or someone who can be call a "senior" member of the transition.

How many senior members can there be?

[monosylab1k]

Future conversation between Flynn and Kelly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U89DzP8NGM4

[TSA]

You didn't read the whole thing did you. The sanctions on Russia were also discussed, and lied about, just like the OP said, in an attempt to create a quid-pro-quo.

Attempt to create a quid pro quo concerning the election? Please show me where it said that.

[RandomGuy]

Do you think a $500 fine and no jail time is major trouble?


shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years

I would call the potential for 5 years in federal prison major, yes.

Instead, he got off pretty lightly. Wonder why.

[TSA]

Why do you keep reposting this?

Guy just pleaded guilty and fessed up about inquiring about foreign help because he was instructed to do so. By what one can assume was Trump or someone who can be call a "senior" member of the transition.

How many senior members can there be?

He plead guilty to lying to the FBI not for talking to Kislyak. What crime do you think was committed in his discussions with Kislyak?

[djohn2oo8]

https://media.giphy.com/media/4PT6v3PQKG6Yg/giphy.gif

[RandomGuy]

Attempt to create a quid pro quo concerning the election? Please show me where it said that.

Concerning the election?

Why would I attempt to prove something that I don't assert? This charge doesn't concern the election. Hope that clears it up for you.

[djohn2oo8]

936658198056054784

[djohn2oo8]

936662872314335233

[djohn2oo8]

936630384145641472

[boutons_deux]

I would call the potential for 5 years in federal prison major, yes.

Sessions has told US Attys, etc to always file maximum charges and prosecute for maximum penalties.

but since it's Sessions, maybe he intends that guidance only knitters and Mexicans.

[monosylab1k]

936630384145641472

:lmao

This is one delicious fucking nothingburger.

[TSA]

Concerning the election?

Why would I attempt to prove something that I don't assert? This charge doesn't concern the election. Hope that clears it up for you.

Not sure I'm following you.


The sanctions on Russia were also discussed, and lied about, just like the OP said, in an attempt to create a quid-pro-quo.

What quid pro quo?

[boutons_deux]

Not sure I'm following you.



What quid pro quo?

Lift sanctions, annul the Magnitsky Act ( adoptions! :lol ), and enable Rexxon's $500B oil/gas deal with Pootin. Both financially hurt Pootin and his oligarchy very painfully.

I think the main reason inexperienced, unqualified Rexxon is at State is that he BFFed Vlad

[dabom]

:lmao

This is one delicious fucking nothingburger.

:lol

[TSA]

936662872314335233

:lol Rick Wilson
:lol this Eli Lake piece is, well, huge
:lol Logan Act violation


Nonetheless, nothing in the Flynn plea sheds any light on whether the Trump campaign actually colluded with Russia to influence the election.


One leading theory pushed Friday by Democrats involves a violation of a 1799 statute known as the Logan Act. A relic of the John Adams administration, this discredited law makes it illegal for a private U.S. citizen to undermine the foreign policy of a sitting president in contact with a foreign power. No American has ever been successfully prosecuted under that law.


This is what Senator Dianne Feinstein, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said on Friday: "This shows a Trump associate negotiating with the Russians against U.S. policy and interests before Donald Trump took office and after it was announced that Russia had interfered in our election. That’s a stunning revelation and could be a violation of the Logan Act, which forbids unauthorized U.S. citizens from negotiating with a foreign power."

If that's all there is, then the whispers of collusion will look foolish.

[spurraider21]

I think he is being charged for the crimes he committed. Nothing more, nothing less.
Why is he being charged with crimes that the fbi cleared him of?

[Splits]

936606020394201088

[TSA]

Why is he being charged with crimes that the fbi cleared him of?

He's not.

[CosmicCowboy]

Logan Act lol.

Good luck prosecuting anyone over that. There is a reason it hasn't been used in 220 years...its a clear violation of the 1st amendment.

[Brazil]

He plead guilty to lying to the FBI not for talking to Kislyak. What crime do you think was committed in his discussions with Kislyak?

:lol so a guy who did nothing wrong decided to lie to the FBI which is a massive offense for the sake of it ? Maybe he was just joking around...

oh boy... trumptards :lol

[spurraider21]

Logan Act lol.

Good luck prosecuting anyone over that. There is a reason it hasn't been used in 220 years...its a clear violation of the 1st amendment.
220 year statute is stupid because it contradicts 230 year old document

[Splits]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP-9mgnUEAAtFDF.jpg

[RandomGuy]

Logan Act lol.

Good luck prosecuting anyone over that. There is a reason it hasn't been used in 220 years...its a clear violation of the 1st amendment.

Probably right. Flynn is the first step in building a case, get the low level people in on as much as you can, to get them to start talking in earnest.

That gets you the probable cause to start getting serious warrants for stuff.

This is the crack in the dam, if there was some serious shit going down. At this point the dozen+ oligarchs and Russian officials of one level or another that we have documented as having met with Team Trump make a pretty convincing case that there was a lot more going on than Trump is admitting to.
.

Trump has been compromised by the Russians somehow, and all these meetings are clearly symptomatic. I think lists of people the Russians find "acceptable" have been communicated to Trump in some way, and that is why you see this level of communication.

The only thing to iron out is what specifically was communicated, and if that was criminal.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I find it amusing that our GOPotards are acting like what we know is the totality of the scope of the investigation. As if the FBI hasn't a long history of selective release of information to further their ivestigation.

Only a dumbfuck tribalist doesn't understand that the ongoing investigation has both legitimacy and legs; giving the total case serves no purpose to the end game. I am content to allow Mueller to do his job. He has done it well to this point.

[Pavlov]

I think TheSatanityAnnex was bitching about wanting to know this this earlier.

936568694167175174

A bargain tbh.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think TheSatanityAnnex was bitching about wanting to know this this earlier.

936568694167175174

A bargain tbh.

FBI's annual budget is pushing $9b for context.

[boutons_deux]

I think TheSatanityAnnex was bitching about wanting to know this this earlier.

936568694167175174

A bargain tbh.

Repugs spent about $10M on Benghazi, no indictments, such a bargain.

[Pavlov]

Repugs spent about $10M on Benghazi, no indictments, such a bargain.The House investigation alone was $7 million.


But I dingress.

[Reck]

LOL cuckner is finished.
936683393072488449

Get in here baseline bum :lol

[boutons_deux]

The Trump Crime Family Is Collapsing As A Top Senate Investigator Is Coming For Jared Kushner and Trump Jr.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA), the ranking member of the Senate Intelligence Committee told reporters that due to information that Mike Flynn has given, investigators now want to talk to Jared Kushner and Donald Trump Jr.

Sen. Warner said,

“I think we have got more work to do and we will do have a number of major figures like Donald Trump Jr.

And I want to bring back Jared Kushner in light of the supposed comments that General Flynn may have been making.

We have Michael Colin ??? and others that need to come back.

We have more facts to gather.

There seems to be this — we have two people pleading guilty.

We have a campaign manager and his deputy still under indictment.

How many more figures have to be brought to justice because of their ties with Russia. Before we end up connecting the dots.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/12/01/trump-crime-family-collapsing-top-senate-investigator-coming-jared-kushner-trump-jr.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

I expect Repugs will block the Dems.

[Trill Clinton]

:lol
https://i.imgur.com/Ku61Dt4.gif?1

[Reck]

https://i.imgflip.com/1pqc2o.jpg

:lol

[boutons_deux]

Fox News reporter mocks Trump for abruptly canceling White House photo op after Flynn guilty plea

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/fox-news-reporter-mocks-trump-for-abruptly-canceling-white-house-photo-op-after-flynn-guilty-plea/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Trash's new bumper sticker: "I'd Rather Be Golfing (or Grabbing Pussies)"

[TSA]

The House investigation alone was $7 million.


But I dingress.

best ding by far :rollin

[boutons_deux]

‘Hollywood would not write a plot this stupid’: Trump loyalist melts down over Flynn guilty plea

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Jack-Posobiec-on-MSNBC-screencap-800x430.png

Jack Posobiec —

one of President Donald Trump’s most feverishly devoted (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/navy-suspends-security-clearance-of-right-wing-conspiracist-and-trump-lover-jack-posobiec-report/) followers and

promoter of the “Pizzagate” :lol conspiracy theory —

is having a noisy meltdown after news broke Friday morning that disgraced national security adviser Mike Flynn has entered a guilty plea in special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe.

In a live-streamed rant, Posobiec —

who has been called a “right-wing Forrest Gump” (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/msnbc-panel-mocks-trump-lover-posobiec-as-right-wing-forrest-gump-of-conspiracies-and-smear-jobs/)of right-wing lies, conspiracies and smear attempts

— greeted the news that Flynn is cooperating with investigators as

“quite possibly the dumbest and worst Tom Clancy novel you ever read” and

claimed “even Hollywood would not write a plot that was this stupid.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/hollywood-would-not-write-a-plot-this-stupid-trump-loyalist-melts-down-over-flynn-guilty-plea/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[TSA]

LOL cuckner is finished.
936683393072488449

Get in here baseline bum :lol

Transition team doing transition team things. What crime did Kushner commit Reck?

[Reck]

Transition team doing transition team things. What crime did Kushner commit Reck?

:lol You got balls still posting in this here thread.

Stay tune.

[TSA]

I think TheSatanityAnnex was bitching about wanting to know this this earlier.

936568694167175174

A bargain tbh.$5 million for $1000 in fines. Lol bargain.

[TSA]

:lol You got balls still posting in this here thread.

Stay tune.

Unlike you I don’t cower and retreat for months.

[boutons_deux]

Senate Republicans Are Trying To Hide Mike Pence Because They Are Worried That He’ll Be Asked About Mike Flynn

The reason why Senate Republicans are trying to get more than the 50 votes needed for their tax cut for the rich is that

they want to keep Mike Pence from having to come to the Senate because

they are afraid reporters will him about Mike Flynn.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/12/01/senate-republicans-hide-mike-pence-worried-asked-mike-flynn.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[Reck]

Unlike you I don’t cower and retreat for months.

Oh I did? When

[Pavlov]

$5 million for $1000 in fines. Lol bargain.lol TSA declares the investigation to be over.

Again.

Don't you ever learn?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Oh I did? When

According to him and Chucho if you don't post here every day you are running away.

[koriwhat]

let the dominoes fall where they must... i'm all for cleaning out both houses. we need a purge of everyone in office from city>state>federal.

[clambake]

fun stuff, man


donna must be seething.

[RandomGuy]

$5 million for $1000 in fines. Lol bargain.

Flynn is rolling over on and ratting someone else out.

Please make more statements about how this isn't about the election.

Specifically make a statement that there wasn't any collusion during the election, and that no charges will be filed against a member of the Trump team for actions undertaken during the election.

Please, oh please, oh please...

[TSA]

Oh I did? When


I congratulate you all.

Time to migrate up top to the NBA forum.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264319&page=3&p=8787712&viewfull=1#post8787712

[TSA]

Flynn is rolling over on and ratting someone else out.

Please make more statements about how this isn't about the election.

Specifically make a statement that there wasn't any collusion during the election, and that no charges will be filed against a member of the Trump team for actions undertaken during the election.

Please, oh please, oh please...

Please, oh please, oh please show me a single mention of the election and collusion in any of the charges brought, please oh please.

[TSA]

lol TSA declares the investigation to be over.

Again.

Don't you ever learn?

Might get a couple FARA violations when it's all said and done if you're lucky.

[boutons_deux]

TSA gonna get Pizzzagated, again :lol

[boutons_deux]

The Nature of Flynn’s Plea Deal Suggests He Has Very Good Information For Mueller

Experts say that Flynn's plea deal suggests Flynn has very good information

with which to bargain with team Mueller on the Trump Russia probe.

If Flynn's information is that good,

that would make it very bad news for President Trump.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/12/01/nature-flynns-plea-deal-suggests-flynn-good-information-bargaining-tool.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (http://www.politicususa.com/2017/12/01/nature-flynns-plea-deal-suggests-flynn-good-information-bargaining-tool.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

[CosmicCowboy]

LOL cuckner is finished.
936683393072488449

Get in here baseline bum :lol
Uhhh...seriously...what crime are you charging? Violation of the Logan act?

[monosylab1k]

:lol
https://i.imgur.com/Ku61Dt4.gif?1

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Comey tweets after Flynn guilty plea:

'But let justice roll down like waters'

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362788-comey-tweets-after-flynn-guilty-plea-but-let-justice-roll-down-like

[CosmicCowboy]

You guys realize the crazy ass Federalists that brought you the Logan Act also brought you the Alien and Sedition act? You guys want to enforce that one too?

[Pavlov]

Might get a couple FARA violations when it's all said and done if you're lucky.
You should retire from the prediction business.

This thread will go down in Spurstalk history as the political forums GOAT when the only person indicted is Susan Rice

[Reck]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264319&page=3&p=8787712&viewfull=1#post8787712

Ok? Did I leave?

The question is..no.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=134279

Posts ranging from election night to post election night and beyond. :lol

[spurraider21]

:lol massive unmasking scandal

[Pavlov]

Did Q predict the Flynn indictment?

[TSA]

Uhhh...seriously...what crime are you charging? Violation of the Logan act?

You'll get no response from anyone on that. Election was over, transition team was doing what every transition team before it did.

[spurraider21]

You'll get no response from anyone on that. Election was over, transition team was doing what every transition team before it did.
They all lie to the FBI?

[Pavlov]

They all lie to the FBI?IS LYING ILLEG-- oh. Nevermind.

[TSA]

They all lie to the FBI?

What crime was committed in speaking with Kislyak?

[RandomGuy]

Please, oh please, oh please show me a single mention of the election and collusion in any of the charges brought, please oh please.

That is a start.

Flynn is rolling over on and ratting someone else out.

Please make more statements about how this isn't about the election.

Specifically make a statement that there wasn't any collusion during the election, and that no charges will be filed against a member of the Trump team for actions undertaken during the election.

Please, oh please, oh please...

[RandomGuy]

What crime was committed in speaking with Kislyak?

https://media.giphy.com/media/tq4PuoUVgsK9q/giphy.gif

That is what we are going to find out.

[CosmicCowboy]

That is a start.

Flynn is rolling over on and ratting someone else out.

Please make more statements about how this isn't about the election.

Specifically make a statement that there wasn't any collusion during the election, and that no charges will be filed against a member of the Trump team for actions undertaken during the election.

Please, oh please, oh please...
I will predict there are no convictions for collusion.

[TSA]

Reality is starting to sink in

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/12/01/flynns-plea-doesnt-prove-collusion/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.d97f1c3c770e

"Friday morning’s guilty plea from former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn is a major disappointment for Democrats. Flynn admitting to having made false statements is nowhere near where the Democrats want this to go. Of course, the story is big and the fact that a former White House official has been charged with anything and pleaded guilty is consequential, but it doesn’t suggest any collusion occurred and it doesn’t even get close to confirming that Donald Trump or his campaign was somehow complicit in a nefarious scheme.

Democrats are already straining themselves trying to suggest that Flynn’s plea is just the beginning and that there is more to come. But as far as Flynn is concerned, that is unlikely. It is just wishful thinking on their part. It’s not as though he pleaded guilty only to leave unresolved matters for later."

"Once the dust settles, the Democrats and their media allies will realize that there is nothing more to this story than what Flynn has admitted to. Commentators are saying Flynn has agreed to cooperate, as if that is something new. The fact is, there was never a time when Flynn wasn’t cooperating. He has been a cooperating witness since special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation began.

The Democrats won’t admit it, but they are throwing in the towel on collusion. Their only choice now is to prop up the convoluted claim of obstruction of justice, and that could go on forever. The ordeal may be bothersome for the White House, but it won’t be fatal.

Oh and by the way, let’s reflect on what has happened in this investigation so far. Paul Manafort and Rick Gates were indicted on matters associated with foreign-agent registration and money laundering that predated any engagement they had with Trump. Flynn has pleaded guilty to a crime that occurred after the campaign was over. To be precise, none of this involves the president or his campaign. It’s all ugly and ragged, but this White House has a lot of ugly and ragged.

Even if Flynn says he was instructed by the president to be in touch with the Russians, so what? All that would mean is the president-elect told his national security adviser to do his job. Don’t be fooled by the breathless, desperate reaction from the usual suspects. As far as the White House is concerned, the Flynn guilty plea is a 4 on a scale from 1 to 10.

Sorry, Democrats. The investigations and “collusion” outrage are running out of steam, well short of reaching the president’s doorstep."

[RandomGuy]

is this more fake news?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4q2QVVWMAE7dk_.jpg

[RandomGuy]

I will predict there are no convictions for collusion.

Very hard to prove until you get people rolling over, which is probably happening.

You already have quite a few meetings with Russians, some of which were with sanctioned oligarchs. That kind of collusion is a crime, to my understanding.

Fun to watch Trump meltdown in the process.

[TSA]

That is a start.

Flynn is rolling over on and ratting someone else out.

Please make more statements about how this isn't about the election.

Specifically make a statement that there wasn't any collusion during the election, and that no charges will be filed against a member of the Trump team for actions undertaken during the election.

Please, oh please, oh please...

So Flynn was told to contact the Russians after the election was won, yet the Trump team had been in contact and colluding with the Russians the entire election? :lol ok

[TSA]

*ding

https://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/02/report-obama-advisors-have-been-meeting-with-iran-syria-since-before-the-election/?utm_content=buffer4dc3d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

[Reck]

Reality is starting to sink in

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/12/01/flynns-plea-doesnt-prove-collusion/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.d97f1c3c770e

"Friday morning’s guilty plea from former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn is a major disappointment for Democrats. Flynn admitting to having made false statements is nowhere near where the Democrats want this to go. Of course, the story is big and the fact that a former White House official has been charged with anything and pleaded guilty is consequential, but it doesn’t suggest any collusion occurred and it doesn’t even get close to confirming that Donald Trump or his campaign was somehow complicit in a nefarious scheme.

Democrats are already straining themselves trying to suggest that Flynn’s plea is just the beginning and that there is more to come. But as far as Flynn is concerned, that is unlikely. It is just wishful thinking on their part. It’s not as though he pleaded guilty only to leave unresolved matters for later."

"Once the dust settles, the Democrats and their media allies will realize that there is nothing more to this story than what Flynn has admitted to. Commentators are saying Flynn has agreed to cooperate, as if that is something new. The fact is, there was never a time when Flynn wasn’t cooperating. He has been a cooperating witness since special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation began.

The Democrats won’t admit it, but they are throwing in the towel on collusion. Their only choice now is to prop up the convoluted claim of obstruction of justice, and that could go on forever. The ordeal may be bothersome for the White House, but it won’t be fatal.

Oh and by the way, let’s reflect on what has happened in this investigation so far. Paul Manafort and Rick Gates were indicted on matters associated with foreign-agent registration and money laundering that predated any engagement they had with Trump. Flynn has pleaded guilty to a crime that occurred after the campaign was over. To be precise, none of this involves the president or his campaign. It’s all ugly and ragged, but this White House has a lot of ugly and ragged.

Even if Flynn says he was instructed by the president to be in touch with the Russians, so what? All that would mean is the president-elect told his national security adviser to do his job. Don’t be fooled by the breathless, desperate reaction from the usual suspects. As far as the White House is concerned, the Flynn guilty plea is a 4 on a scale from 1 to 10.

Sorry, Democrats. The investigations and “collusion” outrage are running out of steam, well short of reaching the president’s doorstep."

How is it starting to sink in?

Because an opinion blogger said so?

[Reck]

I will predict there are no convictions for collusion.

Yeah, that's a no.

936701464570888192

814919370711461890

[TSA]

Yeah, that's a no.

936701464570888192

814919370711461890

I'll ask again, where's the crime?

[djohn2oo8]

936684213515976704
lol

[djohn2oo8]

936706544388968450
:lmao

[TSA]

Yeah, that's a no.

936701464570888192

814919370711461890

Oh noes collusion with Britain too!

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/21/jared-kushner-struck-out-in-his-first-foray-into-middle-east-diplomacy/

Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump’s principal Middle East advisor, embarked on his maiden diplomatic mission even before his father-in-law was inaugurated. His task: get Britain to help scuttle a U.N. Security Council resolution denouncing Israeli settlements.

[Reck]

TSA, are you malfunctioning?

Maybe this will help.
936716046446325761

[CosmicCowboy]

Very hard to prove until you get people rolling over, which is probably happening.

You already have quite a few meetings with Russians, some of which were with sanctioned oligarchs. That kind of collusion is a crime, to my understanding.

Fun to watch Trump meltdown in the process.

It is not only common, but normal for newly elected but not yet inaugurated presidents to have contact with foreign governments and leaders.

[Reck]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP_ibAiW0AI6iMr.jpg:large

:lol

[CosmicCowboy]

The existing president after the election is called a "lame duck" for a reason.

[TSA]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP_ibAiW0AI6iMr.jpg:large

:lol

[E]ven before winning the November 4 election, Obama unofficially used what experts call “track two” discussions to approach America’s two foes in the region.

Nuclear non-proliferation experts had several “very, very high-level” contacts in the last few months with Iranian leaders, said Jeffrey Boutwell, executive director for the US branch of the Pugwash group, an international organization of scientists which won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1995.

Former defense secretary William Perry, who served in Obama’s election campaign, participated in some of these meetings focused on “a wide range of issues that separate Iran from the West: not only their nuclear program but the Middle East peace process, Persian Gulf issues,” Boutwell told AFP.

The Pugwash official declined to name the other participants, except to say they had considerable clout.

Omri Ceren’s righteously outraged that Obama would undermine Bush by meddling in foreign policy, particularly during a campaign when he stood to benefit personally from the results. Fair enough; watch the short clip below from early January to see just how egregious The One’s hypocrisy here is. I’m not so sure, though, that talking to either country had the effect of undermining anything. In the case of Iranian nukes, they’ve been jerking the west around for years to buy time. How do you “undermine” that? It’s a transparent farce, neatly illustrated by the fact that even the guy in charge of keeping the bomb out of their hands can’t get his story straight about how long it’ll take them to build one. As for Syria, Omri notes that Assad’s willingness to chat with Israel sure did seem to Change after he met with emissaries from Hope, the implication being that Obama’s advisors might have promised him better concessions if he held out until The One was in office. Would Assad really need to be formally told that a Democrat would go softer on him than John McCain would, though? Every enemy regime had an incentive last year to hold out on Bush in hopes of a better deal from Obama. As stupid as Assad is, he’s not so stupid that he couldn’t figure that out.

[Chris]

The real collusion

7uHyAxke6KE

[Pavlov]

Remember, TSA and CC don't actually support Trump.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I predict the next indictment/plea deal will be of Kushner.

[Chris]

You guys ever read "Much Ado About Nothing" by Bill Shakespeare? :lol

[Reck]

You guys ever read "Much Ado About Nothing" by Bill Shakespeare? :lol

Flynn pleading guilty and cooperating sounds like a nothing to you?

I have a feeling that even if Trump gets the cuffs, you idiots will be crying about how he's going to jail for nothing and what injustice this is.

[TSA]

Flynn pleading guilty and cooperating sounds like a nothing to you?

I have a feeling that even if Trump gets the cuffs, you idiots will be crying about how he's going to jail for nothing and what injustice this is.

What crime would he be going to jail for?

[Pavlov]

You guys ever read "Much Ado About Nothing" by Bill Shakespeare? :lol"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

[Joseph Kony]

https://media.giphy.com/media/rl0FOxdz7CcxO/giphy.gif

[TSA]

Yeah, that's a no.

936701464570888192

814919370711461890

Also, what crime was committed here?

[Chris]

Also, what crime was committed here?

Kyle Griffin will tell them soon :lol big domino booms coming

[Reck]

What crime would he be going to jail for?

Try to use your imagination, TSA. That was just a what if example I used.

Trump supporters dont believe in anything. Depending on how the Mueller investigation concludes, Trump is looking at impeachment, not indictment.

Or maybe he gets impeached, then indicted. But in that case, Pence will pardon him.

I just dont care as long as he's outta there.

[Chris]

Trump is looking at impeachment

Maxine Waters is on tour. I think you would appreciate her work.

[koriwhat]

Maxine Waters is on tour. I think you would appreciate her work.

ugh james brown

[djohn2oo8]

Try to use your imagination, TSA. That was just a what if example I used.

Trump supporters dont believe in anything. Depending on how the Mueller investigation concludes, Trump is looking at impeachment, not indictment.

Or maybe he gets impeached, then indicted. But in that case, Pence will pardon him.

I just dont care as long as he's outta there.

You think Pence is getting out of this unscathed? :lol

[baseline bum]

So does Flynn taking a plea deal for lying to the FBI about speaking to Russia about sanctions confirm Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions?

djohn2oo8?

[spurraider21]

ugh james brown
Lol not partisan guy watched O'Reilly factor

[baseline bum]

Or did he take the plea deal to flip on Susan Rice?

[spurraider21]

So does Flynn taking a plea deal for lying to the FBI about speaking to Russia about sanctions confirm Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions?

djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870)?
Of course not. The fbi cleared him of that stuff months ago!

[djohn2oo8]

So does Flynn taking a plea deal for lying to the FBI about speaking to Russia about sanctions confirm Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions?

djohn2oo8?

https://media.giphy.com/media/l41lFqWuVphSxvGSI/giphy.gif

[Chris]

ugh james brown

Props to Bill O but he's still a doosher imo :lol

[Reck]

You think Pence is getting out of this unscathed? :lol

Maybe, maybe not.

But by the point they get to work on Pence, he would have probably finished his (Trump's initial) term.

[Pavlov]

Or did he take the plea deal to flip on Susan Rice?:lmao

[Chris]

Trump is a genius letting all this play out. The coils of the rope expose themselves one by one.

[djohn2oo8]

936727125515816960

[Pavlov]

Trump is a genius letting all this play out. The coils of the rope expose themselves one by one.Explain.

[djohn2oo8]

Maybe, maybe not.

But by the point they get to work on Pence, he would have probably finished his (Trump's initial) term.

Mueller is letting no one escape. Mueller has them all at once.

[Chris]

Explain.

Trump can fire the DAG or repeal everything and fire Mueller directly at any time.

[baseline bum]

:rollin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2doZHTMJqCU

[djohn2oo8]

Trump can fire the DAG or repeal everything and fire Mueller directly at any time.

Apparently fake Christian Chris is not all about due process.

[Reck]

Trump can fire the DAG or repeal everything and fire Mueller directly at any time.

Directly?

He has to go through the acting AG.

[djohn2oo8]

:rollin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2doZHTMJqCU

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

936735362965229569
Niggas in a barrel time

[TSA]

936735362965229569
Niggas in a barrel time

Reck couldn't find an answer so I'll ask you. What crime did Flynn commit when talking to the Kislyak?



What took place was common and happens every election.




The actual strategy is detente first, and then a full alliance with Iran throughout the Middle East and North Africa. It has been on display since before the beginning of the Obama administration. During his first presidential campaign in 2008, Mr. Obama used a secret back channel to Tehran to assure the mullahs that he was a friend of the Islamic Republic, and that they would be very happy with his policies. The secret channel was Ambassador William G. Miller, who served in Iran during the shah's rule, as chief of staff for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and as ambassador to Ukraine. Ambassador Miller has confirmed to me his conversations with Iranian leaders during the 2008 campaign.
https://pjmedia.com/michaelledeen/2014/8/29/latest-big-lie-we-have-no-strategy/1/

[TSA]

Mueller is letting no one escape. Mueller has them all at once.

:lol escaping the $500 fine and zero days in jail

[Chris]

:lol escaping the $500 fine and zero days in jail

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

:lol escaping the $500 fine and zero days in jail

You said Flynn was cleared? Lol dumb shit

[djohn2oo8]

let us go on record in saying that the stupid cuck not only said Flynn was cleared but that lying to the FBI is a 500 dollar fine when he said Hillary should have been jailed for lying without any proof.

[Reck]

Reck couldn't find an answer so I'll ask you. What crime did Flynn commit when talking to the Kislyak?

I am more of a wait and see approach kind of guy.

But today's revelations have been entertaining.

[djohn2oo8]

I am more of a wait and see approach kind of guy.

But today's revelations have been entertaining.

Don't entertain him. He said Flynn was cleared. Needs to retire his predictions.

[Pavlov]

Trump can fire the DAG or repeal everything and fire Mueller directly at any time.So what good does it do to let Mueller indict several members of his campaign and administration before doing that, Chris?

It does precisely the opposite.

[djohn2oo8]

So what good does it do to let Mueller indict several members of his campaign and administration before doing that, Chris?

Chis somehow thinks that will stop the grand juries from convicting anybody.

[TSA]

Don't entertain him. He said Flynn was cleared. Needs to retire his predictions.

And you said Flynn was in major trouble
:lol $500 fine

[Reck]

Don't entertain him. He said Flynn was cleared. Needs to retire his predictions.

TSA is your bitch.

Loses his main account to you and all his credibility. But he still wants more :lol

[djohn2oo8]

And you said Flynn was in major trouble
:lol $500 fine

If he wasn't in major trouble, why did he need to bargain for a deal? Stupid chode :lmao

[TSA]

TSA is your bitch.

Loses his main account to you and all his credibility. But he still wants more :lol

:lol says the welcher

[Chris]

So what good does it do to let Mueller indict several members of his campaign and administration before doing that, Chris?

I've already addressed this in post #14378 Pavlov. Try to keep up please.

[djohn2oo8]

TSA what is the penalty for lying to the FBI? Get it right and you get to keep your current account. Get it wrong you can fuck off.

[TSA]

MY understanding of a plea deal is that you plead to a lesser crime in exchange for something in return. We have shown you where Flynn is going to link Trump to he and the rest of the inner circle talking to the Russians concerning sanctions.

This should not be hard. yet here you are handwaving at the lesser crime he pled out to like that is meaningful. I mean stupid is par the course for you but do you really expect people not beholden to the echo chamber to buy this shit?

I'll take the understanding of a former assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York over yours any day.


"Understand: If Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador had evinced the existence of a quid pro quo collusion arrangement — that the Trump administration would ease or eliminate sanctions on Russia as a payback for Russia’s cyber-espionage against the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic party — it would have been completely appropriate, even urgently necessary, for the Obama Justice Department to investigate Flynn. But if that had happened, Mueller would not be permitting Flynn to settle the case with a single count of lying to FBI agents. Instead, we would be looking at a major conspiracy indictment, and Flynn would be made to plead to far more serious offenses if he wanted a deal — cooperation in exchange for sentencing leniency."
-Andrew C. McCarthy III

[Pavlov]

I've already addressed this in post #14378 Pavlov. Try to keep up please.You did not. That is exactly the post I asked you to explain. Try to not attempt circular reasoning please.

[Reck]

:lol says the welcher

You're still here as well. Pot calling the kettle black.

[djohn2oo8]

TSA what is the penalty for lying to the FBI?

[Reck]

936745314740047872

Moscow Mueller. :lmao

[tlongII]

Trump cabinet member charged with felony, not Clinton. I am going to guess it will not be the last one, either.

A cabinet member fired after a month because of the same behavior.

[boutons_deux]

http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2017/02/what-are-the-consequences-of-lying-to-the-fbi.html

[djohn2oo8]

936745314740047872

Moscow Mueller. :lmao

:lmao

[TSA]

TSA what is the penalty for lying to the FBI?

Haven't seen the actual deal for Flynn but if he got what low level George got he's looking at 0 to 6 months in jail and a $500-$9500 fine.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/george-papadopoulos-charges-and-plea-deal/2253/

[djohn2oo8]

Haven't seen the actual deal for Flynn but if he got what low level George got he's looking at 0 to 6 months in jail and a $500-$9500 fine.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/george-papadopoulos-charges-and-plea-deal/2253/

That's not what I asked you. I asked what is the penalty for lying to the FBI?

[Chris]

That's not what I asked you. I asked what is the penalty for lying to the FBI?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+the+penalty+for+lying+to+the+FBI

[djohn2oo8]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+the+penalty+for+lying+to+the+FBI

What is the penalty Chris?

[djohn2oo8]

936734612767760384
:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

936737320073543680

[DarrinS]

Not a nothingburger, but more like a single Whitecastle with some small cold potatoes. :lol

Nice w for team blue.

[Reck]

Hillary is the real MVP.

Proving she's substantially smarter than Trump and his lackies. Spends nearly 11 hours under oath in congress and gets interviewed by the FBI and gets by unscathed. :lol

Trumpies cant even go day without blatantly lying.

[djohn2oo8]

Not a nothingburger, but more like a single Whitecastle with some small cold potatoes. :lol

Nice w for team blue.

Indictments are nothing burgers when the defendant isn't Hillary R Clinton.

https://media.giphy.com/media/1M15RPLa4VBcc/giphy.gif

[TSA]

That's not what I asked you. I asked what is the penalty for lying to the FBI?

Would have to know the level of offense first which neither of us do.

[TSA]

936737320073543680

:lol Rick Wilson pimping an Eli Lake article without reading the whole thing

[djohn2oo8]

Would have to know the level of offense first which neither of us do.

What????????????????????

If you lie to a federal agent and are convicted for a violation of 18 U.S. C. § 1001, you can be fined and sentenced to federal prison for up to five years. If, however, your lie involved international or domestic terrorism, you could be sentenced to up to 8 years in federal prison.

Jesus fucking Christ you really should have kept your mouth shuto :lmao :lmao :lmao

[TSA]

What????????????????????

If you lie to a federal agent and are convicted for a violation of 18 U.S. C. § 1001, you can be fined and sentenced to federal prison for up to five years. If, however, your lie involved international or domestic terrorism, you could be sentenced to up to 8 years in federal prison.

Jesus fucking Christ you really should have kept your mouth shuto :lmao :lmao :lmao:lol you clearly have no clue about the level of offense.

George Popodopolous lied to the FBI. It was reduced down to level 4. Here is the deal he got.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/george-papadopoulos-charges-and-plea-deal/2253/

0-6 months jail and $500-$9500 fine. I expect Flynn to receive the same.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol you clearly have no clue about the level of offense.

George Popodopolous lied to the FBI. It was reduced down to level 4. Here is the deal he got.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/george-papadopoulos-charges-and-plea-deal/2253/

0-6 months jail and $500-$9500 fine. I expect Flynn to receive the same.

I said nothing about George. I asked you what the penalty is for anybody to lie to the FBI.

[Spurminator]

:lol you clearly have no clue about the level of offense.

George Popodopolous lied to the FBI. It was reduced down to level 4. Here is the deal he got.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/george-papadopoulos-charges-and-plea-deal/2253/

0-6 months jail and $500-$9500 fine. I expect Flynn to receive the same.

You used it in a sentence so I assume you know what "reduced" means. Typically people don't cooperate to avoid minor crimes.

This is a painfully dumb narrative you've been clinging to this entire day so I can only assume it's the subject of the top 3 posts on r/the_donald. I really hope you reflect on this time in your life someday.

[TSA]

I said nothing about George. I asked you what the penalty is for anybody to lie to the FBI.

It varies by level of offense which you are obviously having trouble grasping.

[TSA]

You used it in a sentence so I assume you know what "reduced" means. Typically people don't cooperate to avoid minor crimes.

This is a painfully dumb narrative you've been clinging to this entire day so I can only assume it's the subject of the top 3 posts on r/the_donald. I really hope you reflect on this time in your life someday.I'll take the understanding of a former assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York over yours any day.


"Understand: If Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador had evinced the existence of a quid pro quo collusion arrangement — that the Trump administration would ease or eliminate sanctions on Russia as a payback for Russia’s cyber-espionage against the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic party — it would have been completely appropriate, even urgently necessary, for the Obama Justice Department to investigate Flynn. But if that had happened, Mueller would not be permitting Flynn to settle the case with a single count of lying to FBI agents. Instead, we would be looking at a major conspiracy indictment, and Flynn would be made to plead to far more serious offenses if he wanted a deal — cooperation in exchange for sentencing leniency."
-Andrew C. McCarthy III

[Spurminator]

Not a nothingburger, but more like a single Whitecastle with some small cold potatoes. :lol

Nice w for team blue.

It's a W for America. And it's not a big enough one yet.

[Spurminator]

I'll take the understanding of a former assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York over yours any day.


"Understand: If Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador had evinced the existence of a quid pro quo collusion arrangement — that the Trump administration would ease or eliminate sanctions on Russia as a payback for Russia’s cyber-espionage against the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic party — it would have been completely appropriate, even urgently necessary, for the Obama Justice Department to investigate Flynn. But if that had happened, Mueller would not be permitting Flynn to settle the case with a single count of lying to FBI agents. Instead, we would be looking at a major conspiracy indictment, and Flynn would be made to plead to far more serious offenses if he wanted a deal — cooperation in exchange for sentencing leniency."
-Andrew C. McCarthy III

Taking cues from 4chan again? Jesus Christ dude, when are you going to realize how badly you're embarrassing yourself?

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/151623101/and-its-literally-nothing

[djohn2oo8]

It varies by level of offense which you are obviously having trouble grasping.

No you fucking idiot. There is a standard penalty for lying to a federal agent.

[koriwhat]

Lol not partisan guy watched O'Reilly factor

what? i don't and have never watched bill o'reilys show. more words put into my mouth by idiots who think they know everything.


Props to Bill O but he's still a doosher imo :lol

ok? and that has what to do with me?

[djohn2oo8]

You used it in a sentence so I assume you know what "reduced" means. Typically people don't cooperate to avoid minor crimes.

This is a painfully dumb narrative you've been clinging to this entire day so I can only assume it's the subject of the top 3 posts on r/the_donald. I really hope you reflect on this time in your life someday.

According to TSA people get reduced sentences because their crimes weren't major.

[Spurminator]

I also love how the former assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York is a bullet proof title as long as it fits the Trumplover narrative. Don't dare bring alternate opinions from other people with legal experience unless they were also a former assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. :lmao

[TSA]

No you fucking idiot. There is a standard penalty for lying to a federal agent.

:lol still doesn’t understand what levels are

[DarrinS]

No you fucking idiot. There is a standard penalty for lying to a federal agent.

What is it?

[djohn2oo8]

What is it?

Up to 5 years in prison.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol still doesn’t understand what levels are

Still doesn't understand that a sentence for a major crime can be reduced.

[TSA]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362856-cnn-white-house-claims-obama-admin-approved-flynn-calls-with-russian#

Clapper left himself room there by calling the claim a “stretch”
Things just got more interesting

[Spurminator]

It's in the National Review article that TSA quoted.

[TSA]

Up to 5 years in prison.

“up to”

:lol standard

[Reck]

what? i don't and have never watched bill o'reilys show. more words put into my mouth by idiots who think they know everything.



ok? and that has what to do with me?

Feigning ignorance after getting caught. lol even Chris saw through that one.

[djohn2oo8]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362856-cnn-white-house-claims-obama-admin-approved-flynn-calls-with-russian#

Clapper left himself room there by calling the claim a “stretch”
Things just got more interesting

Funny. TSA back to quoting Clapper again when Clapper said he never received a briefing regarding collusion. You a dumb hoe.

[djohn2oo8]

“up to”

:lol standard

So you are saying minor sentences are reduced or major sentences?

[DarrinS]

Taking cues from 4chan again? Jesus Christ dude, when are you going to realize how badly you're embarrassing yourself?

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/151623101/and-its-literally-nothing


Just because it was posted there doesn’t mean that’s where TSA saw it.

[DarrinS]

Up to 5 years in prison.

“up to”

I thought you said there was a standard.

[koriwhat]

Feigning ignorance after getting caught. lol even Chris saw through that one.

seriously though, you believe i watch or have watched anything bill o'reily except his outburst clip? yall are low life wannabe knowitalls arent yall? wow!

that bitch does look like james brown so how exactly is stating that having me lumped in with bill o'reily? please entertain me!

[djohn2oo8]

Just because it was posted there doesn’t mean that’s where TSA saw it.

:lmao

[DarrinS]

:lmao

I’ve seen the article and I’m not on 4chan.

[koriwhat]

I’ve seen the article and I’m not on 4chan.

i've never watched bill o'reily but i am just now finding out that i watch bill o'reily. this bboard certainly has some members that are mentally insane and just believe whatever craziness pops into their heads.

[djohn2oo8]

“up to”

I thought you said there was a standard.

That is the standard dipshit. Otherwise it will have to be reduced you stupid fuck.

[Spurminator]

Just because it was posted there doesn’t mean that’s where TSA saw it.

Since he didn't link it I think it's a safe assumption that he found it there or one of the other obvious turd dens. It's telling that the part he quoted from the NR column is the same part quoted in that 4chan thread.

[DarrinS]

That is the standard dipshit. Otherwise it will have to be reduced you stupid fuck.

So hostile. :lol

[koriwhat]

Since he didn't link it I think it's a safe assumption that he found it there or one of the other obvious turd dens. It's telling that the part he quoted from the NR column is the same part quoted in that 4chan thread.


https://danceswithfat.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/jump-to-conclusions-mat.jpg

[djohn2oo8]

So hostile. :lol

That would be the future of Trump's presidency.

[Spurminator]

i've never watched bill o'reily but i am just now finding out that i watch bill o'reily. this bboard certainly has some members that are mentally insane and just believe whatever craziness pops into their heads.

If you consistently echoed material from Bill O'Reilly's show, it would be fair to comment that you have Bill O'Reilly takes. Regardless of whether you actually watch. It should concern you if your positions are consistently predictable based on whatever Bill O'Reilly is talking about at a given time.

[TSA]

Since he didn't link it I think it's a safe assumption that he found it there or one of the other obvious turd dens. It's telling that the part he quoted from the NR column is the same part quoted in that 4chan thread.

I linked it and posted more quotes earlier. And no I didn’t find the article on 4chan detective dipshit. Nice try though.

[koriwhat]

If you consistently echoed material from Bill O'Reilly's show, it would be fair to comment that you have Bill O'Reilly takes. Regardless of whether you actually watch. It should concern you if your positions are consistently predictable based on whatever Bill O'Reilly is talking about at a given time.

well check this hot shot, i have never watched 1 show of his except a 20 sec clip of him going crazy on like access hollywood or some shit. that's it. so keep playing the game of pointing fingers and hoping your lies stick to the wall. that's all yall are good at around here, making up bs and lying until other bs'ers believe that bs you spew.

btw, doesn't concern me at all because i am not concerned with o'reily at all but it seems as though you are.

[TSA]

That is the standard dipshit. Otherwise it will have to be reduced you stupid fuck.

What level number is the “standard” offense?

[Spurminator]

well check this hot shot, i have never watched 1 show of his except a 20 sec clip of him going crazy on like access hollywood or some shit. that's it. so keep playing the game of pointing fingers and hoping your lies stick to the wall. that's all yall are good at around here, making up bs and lying until other bs'ers believe that bs you spew.

btw, doesn't concern me at all because i am not concerned with o'reily at all but it seems as though you are.

You didn't understand what I was saying and you went on a two paragraph rant about nothing. You should choose whether you want to be ultra-sensitive or stupid, because being both is probably a very hard way to live.

[djohn2oo8]

What level number is the “standard” offense?

Lying to a federal agent is a federal offense. Now why would that need to be reduced if it's not major?

[TSA]

Lying to a federal agent is a federal offense. Now why would that need to be reduced if it's not major?

What level number is the “standard” offense? Is it level 6?

[TSA]

936760299146956800

Oops

[djohn2oo8]

What level number is the “standard” offense? Is it level 6?

Why would anything need to be reduced if not in major trouble?

[djohn2oo8]

936760299146956800

Oops

Trump said none of his people had contact with Russia.

[TSA]

Why would anything need to be reduced if not in major trouble?

You acted like you knew your shit and now you’re just dodging.

What level number is the “standard” offense? Is it level 6?

[TSA]

936760299146956800

Oops

936742255540482048

[djohn2oo8]

You acted like you knew your shit and now you’re just dodging.

What level number is the “standard” offense? Is it level 6?

You said Flynn was never in major trouble. Thats what YOU said. Why did he need a plea deal?

[djohn2oo8]

Oh yeah you also said no indictments :lol

[TSA]

You said Flynn was never in major trouble. Thats what YOU said. Why did he need a plea deal?

More dodging.

What level number is the “standard” offense? Is it level 6?

If you don’t know just say so and we can move on.

[djohn2oo8]

More dodging.

What level number is the “standard” offense? Is it level 6?

If you don’t know just say so and we can move on.

Why did Flynn need a plea deal? Was he in major trouble or not?

[djohn2oo8]

Oh yeah you also said no indictments :lol

What happened to no indictments?

[djohn2oo8]

Or Flynn being a free man?

[TSA]

Oh yeah you also said no indictments :lol

Please point me the indictment that has something to do with Trumps team colluding with Russia to “steal/cheat” the election.

[djohn2oo8]

Please point me the indictment that has something to do with Trumps team colluding with Russia to “steal/cheat” the election.

You said no indictments. Actually you said "Not a Single Indictment".

[TSA]

Why did Flynn need a plea deal? Was he in major trouble or not?

dodge/deflection

[Reck]

Can somebody explain to me why TSA is going to extreme lenght to spin what transpired today?

Take your L and good to sleep.

[TSA]

You said no indictments. Actually you said "Not a Single Indictment".

I did, and I was wrong.

Now please point me the indictment that has something to do with Trumps team colluding with Russia to “steal/cheat” the election.

[djohn2oo8]

djohn2oo8 you should add a poll to this thread with all the people you have said would be indicted and then we'll vote on who has the best chance. Make sure it's open to multiple votes so you can click on every single one.
Guess I should have made that poll

[djohn2oo8]

I did, and I was wrong.

Now please point me the indictment that has something to do with Trumps team colluding with Russia to “steal/cheat” the election.

You were wrong and NOW you wanna move the goalposts after you laughed at the prospect of any indictments period? :lol

[TSA]

Can somebody explain to me why TSA is going to extreme lenght to spin what transpired today?

Take your L and good to sleep.

Flynn lied to the FBI and got popped. Flynn talking to Kislyak AFTER Trump won the nomination isn’t illegal. Every transition team does this. When the dust settles in a few days you’ll look back and realize you blew a load over nothing.

[TSA]

You were wrong and NOW you wanna move the goalposts after you laughed at the prospect of any indictments period? :lol

I thought this thread was about Trump colluding with Russia during the election?

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao Mike Flynn still a free man with no indictment

Lordy!

[spurraider21]

I thought this thread was about Trump colluding with Russia during the election?
This thread is about flynn being in trouble for talking to russia about sanctions. Flynn just pled guilty for lying about talking to Russians about sanctions

[koriwhat]

You didn't understand what I was saying and you went on a two paragraph rant about nothing. You should choose whether you want to be ultra-sensitive or stupid, because being both is probably a very hard way to live.

maybe you should be more clear with your pov/message then. don't blame me because you can't convey your pov and are extremely vague doing so.

[TSA]

This thread is about flynn being in trouble for talking to russia about sanctions. Flynn just pled guilty for lying about talking to Russians about sanctions

This thread has morphed into the Russian election thread, but you already knew that.

Is Flynn in trouble for talking to the Russians about sanctions yes or no?

[TSA]

Lordy!

Now please point me the indictment that has something to do with Trumps team colluding with Russia to “steal/cheat” the election.

Lordy! I feel a dodge coming.

[AaronY]

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sad trombone

[TSA]

936760299146956800

sad trombone

dupe trombone

but at least you see it for what it is.

[Chris]

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sad trombone

:lmao

[CosmicCowboy]

During the transition being key words. You faggots grab a tissue and wipe up the premature cum stains.

[Chris]

_EDtH114IiE

[koriwhat]

this whole thing is hilarious... such a waste of our $ and a waste of time for everyone involved including mueller.

[djohn2oo8]

TSA , Koriwhat, And CosmicCunt sure spend alot of time in here for it to be a nothingburger.

[djohn2oo8]

dupe trombone

but at least you see it for what it is.

You mean like pizzagate?

[TSA]

TSA , Koriwhat, And CosmicCunt sure spend alot of time in here for it to be a nothingburger.

So far we’re at 0-6 months and $500-$9500 fine. Tastes a lot like a nothingburger to me.

[TSA]

Interesting take on today’s news

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/936700828152242176

[djohn2oo8]

this whole thing is hilarious... such a waste of our $ and a waste of time for everyone involved including mueller.

like benghazi?
https://media.giphy.com/media/Iai8BrQFYqt0Y/giphy.gif

[Reck]

So we're now ok and back to trusting what an anonymous source says?

Can never tell with the Trumpies. Sometimes they're good and sometimes they're not.

[djohn2oo8]

So far we’re at 0-6 months and $500-$9500 fine. Tastes a lot like a nothingburger to me.

So far has been indicted. Do you think there will be more charges?

[djohn2oo8]

So we're now ok and back to trusting what an anonymous source says?

Can never tell with the Trumpies. Sometimes they're good and sometimes they're not.

Yeah. lol gotta love them criticizing sources and then using anonymous sources.

[AaronY]

dupe trombone

but at least you see it for what it is.
At least I agree with you on something so obviously I have some value, right?

[djohn2oo8]

Hilarious since TSA was quoting Van Jones earlier

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[TSA]

So we're now ok and back to trusting what an anonymous source says?

Can never tell with the Trumpies. Sometimes they're good and sometimes they're not.

How do you make the leap from “interesting take” to “trusting anonymous sources”?

[Chucho]

You acted like you knew your shit and now you’re just dodging.



The guy can't read a box score. He posts tweets like Chris posts memes and says "oh lordy" and "just wait" after each one. He's Lefty Chris at best...but I'm confident Chris can comprehend a simple box score. Of course he acted like he knows what he's talking about.

[djohn2oo8]

How do you make the leap from “interesting take” to “trusting anonymous sources”?

Keep moving those goalposts.

[TSA]

Hilarious since TSA was quoting Van Jones earlier

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Show the post of me quoting Van Jones earlier. If you do I’ll Venmo or PayPal you $1000 tonight.

[djohn2oo8]

The guy can't read a box score. He posts tweets like Chris posts memes and says "oh lordy" and "just wait" after each one. He's Lefty Chris at best...but I'm confident Chris can comprehend a simple box score. Of course he acted like he knows what he's talking about.
Your grammar is highly fucked.

[TSA]

At least I agree with you on something so obviously I have some value, right?

You’ve always been good in my book regardless of whether we agree or not.

[Chucho]

Your grammar is highly fucked.

You've no credibility.

[TSA]

Keep moving those goalposts.

Keep pretending you know FBI standards

[Chucho]

You’ve always been good in my book regardless of whether we agree or not.

Dude is there with 21, Bummy, RG and Spurm as legit.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lol even Fox news