Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[spurraider21]

Second, pollsters and the media were convinced that Hillary Clinton would be elected. As a result, members of the FBI, CIA, and other federal bureaucracies apparently assumed that any extralegal efforts to stop the common menace Trump would be appreciated rather than punished by a soon-to-be President Clinton.

this still makes no sense. if they knew clinton was going to be elected, why bother with efforts to stop trump?

now, if they released damaging information prior to the election, then the theory could have legs.

saying they took efforts to stop somebody that they were already certain was going to lose is like sending 2 guys to close out on shaq at the 3 point line

[Pavlov]

this still makes no sense. if they knew clinton was going to be elected, why bother with efforts to stop trump?

now, if they released damaging information prior to the election, then the theory could have legs.

saying they took efforts to stop somebody that they were already certain was going to lose is like sending 2 guys to close out on shaq at the 3 point lineNonsensical "insurance" conspiracy theory with no further explanation incoming.

[Mikeanaro]

this still makes no sense. if they knew clinton was going to be elected, why bother with efforts to stop trump?

now, if they released damaging information prior to the election, then the theory could have legs.

saying they took efforts to stop somebody that they were already certain was going to lose is like sending 2 guys to close out on shaq at the 3 point line
They didnt ¨knew¨ it wasnt a 100% sure thing, they thought Hillary would win thats why Trump Tower was wiretapped, even if there was nothing they could build something around it aka collusion.
And media tried to make him look like a clown, rapist, racist, etc.

[clambake]

wiretapped? for real?

[Spurminator]

That whole article is speculation and false equivalence. The idiots who keep comparing LOLspygate to Watergate do so without making any specific comparisons. Example:


They held the reins of federal power under the Obama Administration. And they chose to exercise it in a fashion similar to how Nixon’s team had in 1972.

Name one instance where the liberal establishment exercised the same tactic as Nixon's Watergate goons. One.

[Chris]

this still makes no sense. if they knew clinton was going to be elected, why bother with efforts to stop trump?

now, if they released damaging information prior to the election, then the theory could have legs.

saying they took efforts to stop somebody that they were already certain was going to lose is like sending 2 guys to close out on shaq at the 3 point line

Tying up loose ends doesn't make sense to you? Glad you're not a CO.

[Pavlov]

Tying up loose ends doesn't make sense to you? Glad you're not a CO.What are the "loose ends" here, Chris?

[Mikeanaro]

wiretapped? for real?
For real, have anything to discuss? or you just make those kind of dumb comments to discredit?

I see, when liberals lie if you dont buy it you are a conspiracy clown.

[Chris]

For real, have anything to discuss? or you just make those kind of dumb comments to discredit?

I see, when liberals lie if you dont buy it you are a conspiracy clown.

He usually just says tick tock. Rarely has anything to say unless it's negative.

[Pavlov]

For real, have anything to discuss? or you just make those kind of dumb comments to discredit?

I see, when liberals lie if you dont buy it you are a conspiracy clown.I'd like to discuss the wiretapping.

Who are you saying wiretapped whom?

[spurraider21]

They didnt ¨knew¨ it wasnt a 100% sure thing, they thought Hillary would win thats why Trump Tower was wiretapped, even if there was nothing they could build something around it aka collusion.
And media tried to make him look like a clown, rapist, racist, etc.
whats the point of wiretapping somebody they knew was going to lose?

or if the theory is they WEREN'T sure he was going to lose, why would they go through the hassle of wiretapping him and then NOT releasing that info... allowing him to win the election :lol

[spurraider21]

Tying up loose ends doesn't make sense to you? Glad you're not a CO.
it doesn't make sense

if their goal was to make sure trump lost, they would have let the information out before the election to damage his chances. sitting on the info until after he is elected makes no sense if this was their diabolical plan :lol

[Mikeanaro]

I'd like to discuss the wiretapping.

Who are you saying wiretapped whom?
Maybe you should read a little more, and spend less time in ST you know use a couple tabs in the web browser, unless you are using Netscape Navigator.

[Pavlov]

whats the point of wiretapping somebody they knew was going to lose?

or if the theory is they WEREN'T sure he was going to lose, why would they go through the hassle of wiretapping him and then NOT releasing that info... allowing him to win the election :lolTHEY WERE DOING IT AS INSURANCE THEY WOULDN'T USE LATER EITHER!

[Pavlov]

Maybe you should read a little more, and spend less time in ST you know use a couple tabs in the web browser, unless you are using Netscape Navigator.So you don't really want to discuss wiretapping after all.

lol

[Mikeanaro]

whats the point of wiretapping somebody they knew was going to lose?

or if the theory is they WEREN'T sure he was going to lose, why would they go through the hassle of wiretapping him and then NOT releasing that info... allowing him to win the election :lol
It wasnt a sure thing, polls were fake made by liberal media to inflate Hilda, who the hell thinks she had 92% chances of winning?
Because they had nothing to show, also you cant do that thats Watergate 2.0.
Thats why its called the swamp.

[spurraider21]

It wasnt a sure thing, polls were fake made by liberal media to inflate Hilda, who the hell thinks she had 92% chances of winning?
Because they had nothing to show, also you cant do that thats Watergate 2.0.
Thats why its called the swamp.
so then why did they just sit on everything until after the election :lmao

[Mikeanaro]

So you don't really want to discuss wiretapping after all.

lol
Why should I discuss wiretapping with you if you dont know nothing about the issue?
You just want to dismiss banalize and do some damage control

[Pavlov]

Why should I discuss wiretapping with you if you dont know nothing about the issue?I know some things about the issue, but I'm asking you the particulars of the wiretapping you are talking about.

Who did the wiretapping and whom was wiretapped?

[Mikeanaro]

so then why did they just sit on everything until after the election :lmao
Because they have nothing, just complains, nothing changed since the election liberals cry he is racist, rapist, hurtz filings, womanizer.
When I say Watergate 2.0 I mean you cant spy the opposition, thats the crime.
What do they have now? so far they have a loser former porn star and 13 Russians that posted pro Trump shit on Facebook.

[Chris]

it doesn't make sense

if their goal was to make sure trump lost, they would have let the information out before the election to damage his chances. sitting on the info until after he is elected makes no sense if this was their diabolical plan :lol

This was the insurance policy that Page and Strzok were alluding to in the texts. Cmon son.

[Chris]

Comey violated FBI's own rulebook by using Trump campaign 'spy': Expert


Bureau's rulebook encourages alternatives to human spies in any investigation



The FBI’s own guidelines restrict the deployment of informants to spy on Americans, such as the bureau’s decision to plant a human source among Donald Trump’s presidential campaign aides.

The cautionary regulation is contained in the FBI’s nearly 700-page Domestic Investigations and Operations Guide. The restrictions are prompting national security analysts to say the FBI should have heeded its own rulebook, which encourages alternatives to human spies in any investigation, much less one into a presidential political campaign.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/30/fbi-guidelines-stefan-halper-shouldnt-be-used-spy-/

[Mikeanaro]

I know some things about the issue, but I'm asking you the particulars of the wiretapping you are talking about.

Who did the wiretapping and whom was wiretapped?
So you know some things, but you dont now who and whom? please, its getting old.

[clambake]

mike walked right into that.

[Pavlov]

This was the insurance policy that Page and Strzok were alluding to in the texts. Cmon son.The policy consisting of the stuff they never used?

How is that insurance?

[Pavlov]

So you know some things, but you dont now who and whom? please, its getting old.No, I don't -- help me out here so we can discuss the issue like you wanted.

[Mikeanaro]

Comey violated FBI's own rulebook by using Trump campaign 'spy': Expert


Bureau's rulebook encourages alternatives to human spies in any investigation




https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/30/fbi-guidelines-stefan-halper-shouldnt-be-used-spy-/
Also, why its so hard to believe they were spying on him when they have so many white house ¨leaks¨?

[Pavlov]

Because they have nothing, just complains, nothing changed since the election liberals cry he is racist, rapist, hurtz filings, womanizer.
When I say Watergate 2.0 I mean you cant spy the opposition, thats the crime.
What do they have now? so far they have a loser former porn star and 13 Russians that posted pro Trump shit on Facebook.What "spy the opposition" law was broken here?

[Pavlov]

Also, why its so hard to believe they were spying on him when they have so many white house ¨leaks¨?Because the Trump people leak their asses off all by themselves.

[Mikeanaro]

No, I don't -- help me out here so we can discuss the issue like you wanted.
:lmao Thats so funny, looks like one of those Monkey Island dialogues.

[spurraider21]

This was the insurance policy that Page and Strzok were alluding to in the texts. Cmon son.
yeah, no. it makes no sense.

their options:

a) release whatever info they have to sway the election, ensure hillary gets elected, and then they all celebrate with champaign and get away with it

b) wait until trump wins, where they trigger the spooky insurance policy where they try to convince the republican house to impeach trump and republican senate to vote him out

[Chris]

yeah, no. it makes no sense.

their options:

a) release whatever info they have to sway the election, ensure hillary gets elected, and then they all celebrate with champaign and get away with it

The information was "salacious and unverified" according to your homey Comey.


b) wait until trump wins, where they trigger the spooky insurance policy where they try to convince the republican house to impeach trump and republican senate to vote him out

Trump wasn't supposed to win. All the MSM hoopla pre-election and the attacks on Trump only strengthened his position.

[Mikeanaro]

What "spy the opposition" law was broken here?
You cant wiretap the opposition, just like that asshole Avenatti cant be everywhere obsessed with the culoxxion.

[spurraider21]

The information was "salacious and unverified" according to your homey Comey.
so obama and/or clinton were willing to do this "worse than watergate" spying and fake investigation, no problem.

but releasing unverified information that could have swung the election and allowed them to get away with it? nope, they're too honorable to do that


Trump wasn't supposed to win. All the MSM hoopla pre-election and the attacks on Trump only strengthened his position.
which defeats the purpose of this whole conspiracy theory. making the dangerous play of breaking the law at every step that they aren't going to use UNLESS trump, the guy who can bust them, gets elected.

look, its not my fault your theory doesnt make sense

[Mikeanaro]

Because the Trump people leak their asses off all by themselves.
Sure, leakers usually are from the same party.
But given the situation and all the hate Trumps gets from the left, its probably on them.

[Chris]

so obama and/or clinton were willing to do this "worse than watergate" spying and fake investigation, no problem.

but releasing unverified information that could have swung the election and allowed them to get away with it? nope, they're too honorable to do that

Yeah they were willing to do it. Only problem is they couldn't find anything on Trump besides "grab em by the pussy." Set up a meeting with the Russians promising dirt on Hillary, and we're off to the races!



which defeats the purpose of this whole conspiracy theory. making the dangerous play of breaking the law at every step that they aren't going to use UNLESS trump, the guy who can bust them, gets elected.

look, its not my fault your theory doesnt make sense

I've made sense of it. Seems like you're struggling to come to grips. That's your prerogative.

[Mikeanaro]

so obama and/or clinton were willing to do this "worse than watergate" spying and fake investigation, no problem.

but releasing unverified information that could have swung the election and allowed them to get away with it? nope, they're too honorable to do that

They cant, you cant spy on a presidential candidate to your own benefit.
Is not about honor, nobody fucked with the voting machines so what could they do?

[clambake]

Sure, leakers usually are from the same party.
But given the situation and all the hate Trumps gets from the left, its probably on them.

yeah probably.

i'm convinced.

[spurraider21]

Yeah they were willing to do it. Only problem is they couldn't find anything on Trump besides "grab em by the pussy." Set up a meeting with the Russians promising dirt on Hillary, and we're off to the races!
that meeting with the russians was before the election.

they could have released that to the media. they didn't.

lol

and the meeting wasn't "unverified." his own emails confirmed it.

lol


I've made sense of it. Seems like you're struggling to come to grips. That's your prerogative.
because the theory doesn't make sense. you're connecting dots that aren't there. that's your prerogative

[spurraider21]

They cant, you cant spy on a presidential candidate to your own benefit.
Is not about honor, nobody fucked with the voting machines so what could they do?
again, your claim is they were willing to break the law to spy on trump, but chose not to reveal any damaging information, and the investigation was only publicly disclosed AFTER the election? crofl

[Mikeanaro]

yeah probably.

i'm convinced.
Im convinced Trump will win in 2020, and liberals will be full of fecal matter.
Absolutely.

[clambake]

Im convinced Trump will win in 2020, and liberals will be full of fecal matter.
Absolutely.

good for you, mike.

[Mikeanaro]

again, your claim is they were willing to break the law to spy on trump, but chose not to reveal any damaging information, and the investigation was only publicly disclosed AFTER the election? crofl
You get everything wrong, it seems you want Trump out so bad that you dont care how things work.
There are rules and steps to do things.

You cant spy on the opposition, specially if its a presidential candidate, it doesnt matter if you scream and show he was hitler because the fact that you spied on him will make more damage to you.

Whats the damaging information? a reunion with Russians to discuss Hillary? You keep spinning the same whats the crime?

They lost and created this Russian hoax to have something negative to say about Trump, nothing about economy of course, just Russians Russians Dreamers Russians Feelings Wall Russian.
And since they have nothing to offer except lets hate Trump do you find everything so hard to understand? crofl?

[spurraider21]

You get everything wrong, it seems you want Trump out so bad that you dont care how things work.
There are rules and steps to do things.

You cant spy on the opposition, specially if its a presidential candidate, it doesnt matter if you scream and show he was hitler because the fact that you spied on him will make more damage to you.

Whats the damaging information? a reunion with Russians to discuss Hillary? You keep spinning the same whats the crime?

They lost and created this Russian hoax to have something negative to say about Trump, nothing about economy of course, just Russians Russians Dreamers Russians Feelings Wall Russian.
And since they have nothing to offer except lets hate Trump do you find everything so hard to understand? crofl?
they wouldn't have to prove a crime. just leak some info in the weeks prior to the election.

[Chris]

You get everything wrong, it seems you want Trump out so bad that you dont care how things work.
There are rules and steps to do things.

You cant spy on the opposition, specially if its a presidential candidate, it doesnt matter if you scream and show he was hitler because the fact that you spied on him will make more damage to you.

Whats the damaging information? a reunion with Russians to discuss Hillary? You keep spinning the same whats the crime?

They lost and created this Russian hoax to have something negative to say about Trump, nothing about economy of course, just Russians Russians Dreamers Russians Feelings Wall Russian.
And since they have nothing to offer except lets hate Trump do you find everything so hard to understand? crofl?

He's a conflator and certainly connects dots that aren't there. His last post @ me was hilarious.

[clambake]

He's a conflator and certainly connects dots that aren't there. His last post @ me was hilarious.

why don't you and mike discuss the wiretapping?

[Chris]

why don't you and mike discuss the wiretapping?

Tick tock.

[clambake]

Tick tock.
thats right.

[spurraider21]

He's a conflator and certainly connects dots that aren't there. His last post @ me was hilarious.
:lol you self owned by bringing up the trump jr meeting tbh

[Pavlov]

You cant wiretap the oppositionWhat law was broken?

[Pavlov]

Sure, leakers usually are from the same party.In the White House, yes they are.

[Pavlov]

OMG THEY'VE HACKED BRIT HUME'S TWITTER!

1002224090948755458

[Chris]

1002344034583576577


https://media0.giphy.com/media/10gJMyUvr11JIY/giphy.gif
djohn is on the left :lol

[Chris]

The Five Methods Obama Officials Used to Spy on the Trump Campaign


https://www.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2018/05/31/Spying-700x420.jpg
(L–R) Former President Barack Obama, former FBI Director James Comey, former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Samantha Power, former CIA Director John Brennan, former national security adviser Susan Rice, former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, and former Deputy Attorney General Dana Boente. (Getty Images)



So far, at least five different ways that the officials spied on the Trump campaign have been uncovered.
These include the use of national security letters, a FISA warrant, an undercover informant, the unmasking of identities in intelligence reports, and spying conducted by foreign intelligence agencies.

Each of these methods provided the officials with sensitive information on the Trump campaign that could have been used for political purposes.

Private communications between FBI officials involved in the agency’s investigation on the Trump campaign, reveal its links to the White House.

In one of the text messages obtained by the DOJ inspector general, and since released publicly, the lead FBI agent on the case, Peter Strzok, wrote in a Sept. 2, 2016, message to FBI lawyer Lisa Page that “potus [president of the United States] wants to know everything we’re doing.” Page was serving as counsel to then-Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe.

There have also been direct ties between the spying and the campaign of then-Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

The FBI and DOJ relied heavily on unverified allegations contained in the so-called Trump dossier, paid for by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC), to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on Trump campaign volunteer Carter Page.

1. National Security Letters
The FBI, which at the time was headed by FBI Director James Comey and Deputy Director McCabe, used counterintelligence tools known as national security letters to spy on the Trump campaign.

Marc Ruskin, a 27-year veteran of the FBI, told The Epoch Times that the agency has strict guidelines regulating the use of different types of investigations, such as national security, criminal, and terrorism investigations. Launching a foreign counterintelligence investigation (FCI), which falls under the FBI’s national security guidelines, must meet a lower bar of probable cause than do criminal investigations.

Using an FCI to investigate the Trump campaign, the FBI was able to gather intelligence—not necessarily evidence—which it would likely not have been able to do using a criminal investigation, given the lack of probable cause.

However, the FBI appears to have used the FCI tools—potentially illegally—to launch a subsequent criminal investigation.

Comey told Congress under oath in June 2017 that the investigation did not target Trump, even though it had spied on his campaign.

Similarly, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversees the investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller, said in April that Trump is not a target of Mueller’s investigation.

2. FISA Warrant
The FBI and DOJ obtained a FISA spy warrant on Carter Page, a volunteer adviser to the Trump campaign, on Oct. 21, 2016. Under the so-called “two-hop” rule, the FISA warrant could have been used to spy on anyone with two layers of separation from Page himself. This means that both of the people Page was in contact with himself at the campaign could have had their communications surveilled, which is the first hop, as well as anyone who was in contact with the campaign officials, the second hop.

This means that even though Carter Page never talked to Trump himself, as said by Page in a Feb. 6 ABC News interview, Trump could still be spied on, because Page had contact with one of his campaign officials.

Because Page is a U.S. citizen, the application had to be certified by the FBI director or deputy director. Comey signed off on three of the applications, which include renewals, and McCabe signed one.

Deputy attorney generals Sally Yates, Dana Boente, and Rosenstein each signed one or more applications on behalf of the DOJ.

A FISA warrant is among the most intrusive ways to spy on an individual. It includes access to data collected under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

This data includes all digital communications—such as internet browsing histories, phone conversations, emails, chat logs, personal images, and GPS locations—that are transferred over the internet and captured by the NSA using so-called upstream data, which is all internet data traveling through key internet backbone carriers.

The FBI itself has access to 702 collected data collected by the NSA. A declassified top-secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) report released in April 2017 detailed numerous violations by the FBI in handling this data.

Among the violations were the FBI’s providing of access to raw FISA data to private contractors, in violation of policies intended to safeguard the data. The contractors were also found to have maintained access to the sensitive data, which includes communications of Americans, after the contractors’ work for the FBI was concluded.

The FBI also provided 702 data to a private entity that did not have the legal right to it. According to the FISC, the FBI also did not give oversight or supervision on how the data was used. It is unclear which private entity the FBI provided the information to.

It is unclear at this point in time whether the communications of Trump and his campaign were provided to outside private entities.

In addition to the FBI’s mishandling of Section 702-acquired data, the declassified FISC report shows numerous violations under the Obama administration of procedures intended to safeguard Americans’ personal data and communications. For example, the NSA had an 85 percent noncompliance rate with guidelines for when it came to searches involving American citizens.

3. Unmasking
Top Obama officials made hundreds of so-called unmasking requests for the identities of members of the Trump campaign in intelligence reports.

Unmasking refers to the practice of requesting that an intelligence agency, in most cases the NSA, unmask the name of an American citizen, which by default is concealed in intelligence reports to protect identities.

Obama’s national security adviser, Susan Rice, Ambassador to the U.N. Samantha Power, and CIA Director John Brennan have so far been identified by the House intelligence committee as having filed such requests.

Power testified before the House oversight committee in October last year that even though unmasking requests were made in her name, they were in fact made by another undisclosed official.

The communications obtained by Rice and Brennan could have been provided to Obama during the daily intelligence briefings he received from them.

4. Undercover Informant
The FBI used an undercover agent to infiltrate the Trump campaign.

Stefan Halper, a Cambridge professor with ties to the CIA and British intelligence agency MI6, reached out to Carter Page; George Papadopoulos, a volunteer foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign; and Sam Clovis, a senior Trump campaign official.

Halper received over $1 million from a Defense Department think tank between 2012 and 2017.

In the same month that Halper reached out to Papadopoulos, in September 2016, the Office of Net Assessment—a strategy think thank that falls directly under the Defense Secretary, exercised an option to extend Halper’s contract for nearly $412,000. Government records show Halper’s work was marked as “special studies/analysis – foreign/national security policy.”

According to media reports, Halper met with Carter Page as early as July 2016, the same month the FBI opened its counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign.

On May 20, the DOJ, under the direction of Trump, ordered its inspector general to look into the actions of the FBI informant.

“If anyone did infiltrate or surveil participants in a presidential campaign for inappropriate purposes, we need to know about it and take appropriate action,” Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said in a statement.

It expands the scope of the investigation by Inspector General Michael Horowitz, whose office is already investigating the FBI’s use of a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.

5. Foreign Intelligence
British Intelligence agency GCHQ provided officials within the CIA, both members of the “Five Eyes” intelligence alliance, information on the Trump campaign as early as late 2015, The Guardian reported.

According to the publication, then-head of GCHQ Robert Hannigan provided then-CIA Director John Brennan with sensitive information on the Trump campaign on a “director level” in the summer of 2016.

Brennan subsequently prepared an “eyes only” report for Obama and three senior aides. Brennan also provided briefings to the members of the “Gang of Eight” (the House and Senate majority and minority leaders, as well as the chairmen and ranking members on the House and Senate intelligence committees).

That GCHQ’s Hannigan provided Brennan with the information on the Trump campaign is highly unusual, as the House Intelligence Committee has found that no official Five Eyes intelligence product exists.

“We are not supposed to spy on each other’s citizens, and it’s worked well. And it continues to work well. And we know it’s working well because there was no intelligence that passed through the Five Eyes channels to our government,” Chairman of the House intelligence committee Devin Nunes told Maria Bartiromo on Sunday Morning Futures on April 22.

The Five Eyes alliance uses strict guidelines to make sure that participating intelligence agencies in the United States, UK Canada, Australia, and New Zealand don’t spy on each other’s citizens. The guidelines aim to prevent, for example, the U.S. government from using intelligence obtained by the Five Eyes to gain communications of Americans*—which the government is not allowed to monitor without a warrant.

However, Hannigan and Brennan appear to have done exactly that by circumventing official channels, thus explaining why no official intelligence product exists.

The fact that no official intelligence exists that was used to open the investigation into the alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia means that those involved went around the official system.

Hannigan unexpectedly announced he was resigning from his post just three days after Trump was inaugurated.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-five-methods-obama-officials-used-to-spy-on-the-trump-campaign_2544292.html

[Winehole23]

nm. wall of text

also, totally unsurprising.

[Pavlov]

Their pasting gets out of control when they're nervous.

[Winehole23]

It's mostly rehash, dolled up as a brand new conspiratard.

[Mikeanaro]

What law was broken?
So much for those who dismissed charges of Obama administration infiltration of Donald Trump’s campaign as paranoid fantasy. Defenders of the Obama intelligence and law enforcement apparat have had to fall back on the argument that this infiltration was for Trump’s — and the nation’s — own good.

It’s an argument that evidently didn’t occur to Richard Nixon’s defenders when it became clear that Nixon operatives had burglarized and wiretapped the Democratic National Committee’s headquarters in June 1972.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2NfYWx-es8

[TSA]

Their pasting gets out of control when they're nervous.

Nervous about what exactly?

[Winehole23]

It’s an argument that evidently didn’t occur to Richard Nixon’s defenders when it became clear that Nixon operatives had burglarized and wiretapped the Democratic National Committee’s headquarters in June 1972.too bad it didn't, because then it would have worked, right?

[Chris]

1. British Intelligence agency GCHQ provided officials within the CIA, both members of the “Five Eyes” intelligence alliance, information on the Trump campaign as early as late 2015 - unreal.

2. The Five Eyes alliance uses strict guidelines to make sure that participating intelligence agencies in the United States, UK Canada, Australia, and New Zealand don’t spy on each other’s citizens. - clear violation

3. Hannigan unexpectedly announced he was resigning from his post just three days after Trump was inaugurated. - TSA dead on

4. The FBI appears to have used the FCI tools—potentially illegally—to launch a subsequent criminal investigation.

5. Under the so-called “two-hop” rule, the FISA warrant could have been used to spy on anyone with two layers of separation from Page himself. This means that both of the people Page was in contact with himself at the campaign could have had their communications surveilled, which is the first hop, as well as anyone who was in contact with the campaign officials, the second hop. -they were spying on everyone in the Trump campaign including Trump. Comey and McCabe signed off on the applications and renewals.

6. Deputy attorney generals Sally Yates, Dana Boente, and Rosenstein each signed one or more applications on behalf of the DOJ. - backing by DOJ :tu

7. FISA warrant includes all digital communications—such as internet browsing histories, phone conversations, emails, chat logs, personal images, and GPS locations—that are transferred over the internet and captured by the NSA using so-called upstream data, which is all internet data traveling through key internet backbone carriers. - they were scouring everything to find something (all they got was pussy grabber)

8. Among the violations were the FBI’s providing of access to raw FISA data to private contractors, in violation of policies intended to safeguard the data. The contractors were also found to have maintained access to the sensitive data, which includes communications of Americans, after the contractors’ work for the FBI was concluded. The FBI also provided 702 data to a private entity that did not have the legal right to it. According to the FISC, the FBI also did not give oversight or supervision on how the data was used. It is unclear which private entity the FBI provided the information to. - totally illegal operation

9. Declassified FISC report shows numerous violations under the Obama administration of procedures intended to safeguard Americans’ personal data and communications. For example, the NSA had an 85 percent noncompliance rate with guidelines for when it came to searches involving American citizens. - thanks Obama! :tu

10. Government records show Halper’s work was marked as “special studies/analysis – foreign/national security policy.” - special studies indeed (spying on Trump)

11. Halper met with Carter Page as early as July 2016, the same month the FBI opened its counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign. - what a coincidence!

12. Trump was spied on and you can't spin it.

[Chris]

Patti Blagojevich Praises Trump: Mueller, Comey 'Perverted the Law Against My Family' Too



As seen on The Story with Martha MacCallum
The wife of imprisoned former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich (D) reacted to reports that President Trump is considering a presidential pardon for him.

Blagojevich, sentenced in 2011 following a case related to attempting to "sell" Barack Obama's senate seat, is serving 14 years in a Colorado federal prison.

Trump said the infamous phone tap in which Blagojevich is heard calling the Senate seat "f-----g golden" was a "foolish statement" but that "other politicians have said a lot worse."

Patricia Blagojevich said Trump is a "kind man" who has always been nice to her family. Trump invited Gov. Blagojevich on "Celebrity Apprentice" prior to his sentencing.

"We are all so grateful that the president is thinking of us in this way," she said.

Martha MacCallum asked about the fact Robert Mueller and James Comey were involved in Gov. Blagojevich's prosecution, as they are in the probe into alleged collusion between Trump and Russia.

"I see that these same people that did this to my family, [who] secretly taped us, twisted the facts, perverted the law [which put] my husband in jail -- These people are trying to do it on a larger scale (to Trump)," she said.

She said that her husband's defense team had dozens of other audio tapes that they wanted to play at trial besides the "f-----g golden" clip, but that those recordings were "suppressed by the government."

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/05/31/rod-blagojevich-jail-wife-praises-trump-after-considering-pardon-commutation

Now we know they threatened Flynn and his family. Mafia Mueller confirmed.

[Winehole23]

Rod Blagojevich is a victim now,

[Reck]

Rod Blagojevich is a victim now,

Watching Chris bounce from a sexual predator to a child molester to a racist and now to a convicted criminal is somewhat funny.

[Spurminator]

"Drain the Swamp" = Pardon convicted celebrities and politicians

Definitely what Trump voters elected him to do.

[boutons_deux]

NPR noted that Trash has pardoned convicts who were prosecuted by Dem prosecutors.

Echoes dubya firing the Repug prosecutor who jailed Duke Cunningham.

iow, politics is above the law, as are people with $Ms to buy their freedom

[Chris]

1002309941313654786

[Winehole23]

"Drain the Swamp" = Pardon convicted celebrities and politicians

Definitely what Trump voters elected him to do.How racist do you have to be to get a presidential pardon these days? So far it appears to be a requirement.

[Winehole23]

DarrinS, anti-anti racist white knight, in 3.2.1...

[Spurminator]

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[Winehole23]

any federal jail time. Manafort would still face state charges and civil liability.

DJT's smoke signals aren't very subtle. He'll pardon confessed and duly convicted felons just to piss off the libs.

Imagine what he'll do to save his own bacon.

[Chris]

^^Pure speculation on why Manafort is not "cooperating" with Mueller. I wonder if cooperation means pleading guilty to phony charges? Trump pardoned D'Souza so that means Manafort is not cooperating. Talk about dumb, but Spurminator posted it so no surprise there. :tu

[Winehole23]

lol wet finger in the air jeering at pure speculation

[Spurminator]

^^Pure speculation on why Manafort is not "cooperating" with Mueller. I wonder if cooperation means pleading guilty to phony charges? Trump pardoned D'Souza so that means Manafort is not cooperating. Talk about dumb, but Spurminator posted it so no surprise there. :tu

You're projecting again. Reeks of desperate insecurity.

[Winehole23]

btw, how did a gangster like Manafort get to be DJT's campaign chief anyway?

[boutons_deux]

btw, how did a gangster like Manafort get to be DJT's campaign chief anyway?

Connections to Russia immediately put you at the head of Trash's list. Manafort, Sessions, Flynn, Rexxon Tillerson, Ross

[DarrinS]

How racist do you have to be to get a presidential pardon these days? So far it appears to be a requirement.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/24/trump-pardons-jack-johnson-607735

[Winehole23]

does that make Trump not a racist?

[Winehole23]

btw, nice catch Darrin.

knew I was forgetting someone.

[DarrinS]

btw, nice catch Darrin.

knew I was forgetting someone.

Who are the other racists he pardoned?

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Who are the other racists he pardoned?D'Souza and Arpaio

[Winehole23]

Jack Johnson may or may not have been a racist; I couldn't really say.

Could you?

[DarrinS]

D'Souza and Arpaio

D’Souza?

[Chris]

D'Souza is a racist because he told everyone the Democrats started the KKK. Try to keep up Darrin.

[Winehole23]

D'Souza himself calls it rational discrimination based on accurate group generalizations, to be fair.

[Winehole23]

never mind the AA dialect, purely parodic, I'm sure

[Winehole23]

I found his long-winded apologia for paternalistic slaveowners and their comfortable human chattels in "The End of Racism" to be sensitive and moving, didn't y'all?

[Winehole23]

Is the birther conspiracy better described as a dog whistle for racism, or as a rational hypothesis with solid, empirical support?

D'Souza, Arpaio and DJT all have it in common. What do y'all think?

[TSA]

1002360172977819648

[Pavlov]

1002360172977819648
It's stupid because Comey doesn't work there.

Hasn't for quite a while.

[Winehole23]

old news, not surprising, totally proper for the OIG to investigate.

I have a feeling you're going to be disappointed.

[boutons_deux]

The FBI just sunk Trump’s defense in Mueller’s obstruction probe with a bombshell finding

A newly uncovered memo from the former Acting FBI Director just revealed Donald Trump’s real reasons for firing James Comey last year

the New York Timesobtained a new missive.

The Times reports (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/us/politics/rosenstein-trump-comey-firing-mccabe-memo.html) on the documented version of events that fateful day:

"[The Deputy Attorney General] said the president had originally asked him to reference Russia in his memo, the people familiar with the conversation said. Mr. Rosenstein did not elaborate on what Mr. Trump had wanted him to say.

To Mr. McCabe, that seemed like possible evidence that Mr. Comey’s firing was actually related to the F.B.I.’s investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia, and

that Mr. Rosenstein helped provide a cover story by writing about the Clinton investigation."



Andrew McCabe’s memo seems to add very strong fuel to the fire by confirming that Trump took official action in his own case and it was related to Russia,

President Trump even told the Russians himself (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html), in person, when he probably thought nobody was watching inside the Oval Office that

he felt relieved over the election campaign investigation now that Comey was fired.
That was just one day after the firing.

https://washingtonpress.com/2018/05/30/the-fbi-just-sunk-trumps-defense-in-muellers-obstruction-probe-with-a-bombshell-finding/

So Rosenstein provided cover for Trash firing Comey to stop the Russia investigation

[djohn2oo8]

1002522650374074368
LOL

[djohn2oo8]

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[DarrinS]

1002522650374074368
LOL


Wow. This changes everything

[djohn2oo8]

Wow. This changes everything

like your national review articles :rollin

[TSA]

Their pasting gets out of control when they're nervous.

Nervous about what exactly?

[TSA]

1002524019835523073

The post-election meeting to set up a secret back channel :rollin

[Winehole23]

Why would Erik Prince lie to Congress about that? Nothing to hide, right?

[Pavlov]

Nervous about what exactly?Nervous about people noticing when you change your conspiracy nontheory again soon.

[TSA]

Nervous about people noticing when you change your conspiracy nontheory again soon.

That makes zero sense given the context of when you made your comment. What exactly are you saying made Chris nervous?

[Pavlov]

That makes zero sense given the context of when you made your comment. What exactly are you saying made Chris nervous?Makes a lot of sense. He's posting walls of text that just repeat the talking points of the failed conspiracy nontheory. No one outside the base is buying #spygate, so it's on the next nontheory you will never be able to explain when asked directly.

"It's fluid."

[TSA]

Makes a lot of sense. He's posting walls of text that just repeat the talking points of the failed conspiracy nontheory. No one outside the base is buying #spygate, so it's on the next nontheory you will never be able to explain when asked directly.

"It's fluid."

That makes no sense. What do you claim is making him nervous?

[Pavlov]

That makes no sense. What do you claim is making him nervous?Having to adopt a new nontheory again, hoping no one notices.

You'll have to do it too once you get your marching orders.

"It's fluid."

[TSA]

No one outside the base is buying #spygateWas Stefan Halper and FBI informant yes or no?

[TSA]

Having to adopt a new nontheory again, hoping no one notices.

You'll have to do it too once you get your marching orders.

"It's fluid."

If your claim was even true, do you really think that would make Chris nervous? It feels like your just doing your customary Pavjecting.

[Pavlov]

Was Stefan Halper and FBI informant yes or no?Looks like it.

Why are you walking back from the word "spy"?

[djohn2oo8]

Looks like it.

Why are you walking back from the word "spy"?

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

TSA taking his biggest L since Guccifer 2.0

[spurraider21]

TSA taking his biggest L since Guccifer 2.0
game over

[Chris]

If your claim was even true, do you really think that would make Chris nervous? It feels like your just doing your customary Pavjecting.

He won't answer the question and just claim everything is a non-theory. What a chicken shit.

I even did the bullet points cliff notes thing, but "wall of text!"

[Pavlov]

He won't answer the question and just claim everything is a non-theory. What a chicken shit.

I even did the bullet points cliff notes thing, but "wall of text!"I answered.

As always, it didn't turn out the way you wanted it.

[Pavlov]

If your claim was even true, do you really think that would make Chris nervous?Yes.

You do it too.

[spurraider21]

Nunes is doing his job. If anything has gone off the rails, it's this never ending Mueller investigation which is going to cost taxpayers close to a billion dollars.


Mueller investigation closing in on 1 BILLION :tu


947134233465774082

That's One Billion with a B.
almost there!

Mueller’s investigation cost $16.7 million in just under a year, new documents show (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/05/31/muellers-investigation-cost-16-7-million-in-just-under-a-year-new-documents-show/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.303b8eddc843)

[clambake]

lol

[TSA]

Looks like it.

Why are you walking back from the word "spy"?

I never played the semantics game with spy and informant, they mean the same to me. Why are you playing the semantics game in order to downplay Halper's role?

[Winehole23]

as an FBI informant? is that a dirty word on the right?

[RandomGuy]

Why would Erik Prince lie to Congress about that? Nothing to hide, right?

Prince appears, from what little we know, to be at the center of this.

[Pavlov]

I never played the semantics game with spy and informant, they mean the same to me. Why are you playing the semantics game in order to downplay Halper's role?If they mean the same to you, just use the word "spy".

I'm not downplaying Halper's role. It's a pretty small role tbh.

[TSA]

TSA taking his biggest L since Guccifer 2.0

Funny you mention Guccifer, looks like some docs were changed on the West Coast.

https://theforensicator.wordpress.com/guccifer-2s-west-coast-fingerprint/


And no other L in the history of Spurstalk L's is going to match your $2000 L :lol

[Pavlov]

Funny you mention Guccifer, looks like some docs were changed on the West Coast.

https://theforensicator.wordpress.com/guccifer-2s-west-coast-fingerprint/Who wrote this?

[TSA]

If they mean the same to you, just use the word "spy".

I'm not downplaying Halper's role. It's a pretty small role tbh.

If they mean the same to me I'll use whatever word I choose.

:lol declaring Halper's role as small when Trey Gowdy doesn't even know what Halper's role was because the DOJ hasn't handed over the subpoenaed documents dealing with Halper's role.

[TSA]

Yes.

You do it too.

No, you are simply projecting. Nothing about a message board or posting on a message board makes me nervous.

[Pavlov]

If they mean the same to me I'll use whatever word I choose. But you won't use "spy".

:lol


:lol declaring Halper's role as small when Trey Gowdy doesn't even know what Halper's role was because the DOJ hasn't handed over the subpoenaed documents dealing with Halper's role.Turns out he's just not that worried about it since he said the FBI acted properly.

He didn't say "pending review of the documents that say exactly what Halper's role was."

He said the FBI acted properly knowing Halper was an informant.

And Nunes hasn't said shit that I've seen.

Just doesn't look good for your conspiracy theory that you definitely believe but can't actually explain to save your life.

[Pavlov]

Also, question pending:
Funny you mention Guccifer, looks like some docs were changed on the West Coast.

https://theforensicator.wordpress.com/guccifer-2s-west-coast-fingerprint/


Who wrote this?

[Spurminator]

If they mean the same to me I'll use whatever word I choose.

:lol declaring Halper's role as small when Trey Gowdy doesn't even know what Halper's role was because the DOJ hasn't handed over the subpoenaed documents dealing with Halper's role.

Discovery typically happens after there's a pretty good idea of what occurred. You act like the absence of documents means Gowdy is as clueless about everything as you are.

[TSA]

Discovery typically happens after there's a pretty good idea of what occurred. You act like the absence of documents means Gowdy is as clueless about everything as you are.

In fact, a spokeswoman for Gowdy told The Federalist that the congressman doesn’t even know what documents and records were subpoenaed by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI).

http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/30/trey-gowdy-didnt-even-see-documents-he-claims-exonerate-fbi-on-spygate-reports/

[TSA]

Also, question pending:

who cares and why does it matter?

[Spurminator]

In fact, a spokeswoman for Gowdy told The Federalist that the congressman doesn’t even know what documents and records were subpoenaed by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI).

http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/30/trey-gowdy-didnt-even-see-documents-he-claims-exonerate-fbi-on-spygate-reports/

That changes nothing about what I said. Documents typically provide evidence of events that have already been discussed. He doesn't need to know what the specific documents are to have a good idea of the events they will describe.

[TSA]

But you won't use "spy".

:lol

Turns out he's just not that worried about it since he said the FBI acted properly.

He didn't say "pending review of the documents that say exactly what Halper's role was."

He said the FBI acted properly knowing Halper was an informant.

And Nunes hasn't said shit that I've seen.

Just doesn't look good for your conspiracy theory that you definitely believe but can't actually explain to save your life.

:lol claiming you knew Halper's role

[Pavlov]

who cares and why does it matter?I care. That's why I asked.

You depend heavily on anonymous sources for your conspiracy theories.

Why do you trust them so much?

[Pavlov]

:lol claiming you knew Halper's roleSo he wasn't an informant after all? Sjure looks like you thought that was his role.

Pick a lane, TSA.

What are you hoping will be in the documents?

Don't say you aren't hoping anything. Your current conspiracy nontheory relies on them.

[TSA]

I care. That's why I asked.

You depend heavily on anonymous sources for your conspiracy theories.

Why do you trust them so much?

Why do you care?

The research and conclusions either stand on their own or fail.

[TSA]

So he wasn't an informant after all? Sjure looks like you thought that was his role.

Pick a lane, TSA.

What are you hoping will be in the documents?

Don't say you aren't hoping anything. Your current conspiracy nontheory relies on them.

I don't know what will be in the documents but there must be a pretty good reason the DOJ has been stonewalling so much.

[Pavlov]

Why do you care?

The research and conclusions either stand on their own or fail.Great, I can get an anonymous source that says the research is a complete failure.

What would you do then?

Why do your conspiracy nontheories rely so heavily on anonymous blogs?


I don't know what will be in the documents but there must be a pretty good reason the DOJ has been stonewalling so much.You didn't answer the question:

What are you hoping will be in the documents?

Don't say you aren't hoping anything. Your current conspiracy nontheory relies on them.

[RandomGuy]

I never played the semantics game with spy and informant, they mean the same to me. Why are you playing the semantics game in order to downplay Halper's role?

They are not quite the same thing. Semantics aside, the guy didn't quite insert himself into the campaign. Trumps claims are blatant lies.

[RandomGuy]

I don't know what will be in the documents but there must be a pretty good reason the DOJ has been stonewalling so much.


"We met a terrified six-year-old blind boy taken from his mother at the border. All he did was beg for his mother. if we cannot represent him, he will stand in front of a judge and represent himself, since there is no public defender system in immigration court, even for children. So will the 12 month old baby we met - stripped from her mother's inconsolable mother's arms. So will the 58 other children living in that childrens' detention center in the middle of Arizona right now, all under the age of 10, all afraid and desperate for their mothers and fathers"
--Lauren Dasse, Esq., Executive Director
Florence Immigrant and Refugee rights project.

What do you think the Republicans are doing with those children they are removing from their parents, TSA? Just curious.

[djohn2oo8]

Funny thing about TSA. Not even Nunes has been making a big deal out of not getting any documents :lol

[Chris]

RandomGuy with the "what about the children". Yikes.

[Chris]

I got one :lol RandomGuy what about the children?


1002709051124396032

[Spurminator]

1002709051124396032

That's a substantial improvement from taking food from the mouths of 294 million children on a :lol One Billion (with a B) dollar :lol budget.



947134233465774082

That's One Billion with a B.

[spurraider21]

Chuck Woolery with the "what about the children." Yikes.

[boutons_deux]

Formert Sheriff Clarke needs to get his black on again.

And accessorize with a cowboy hat that fits.

[TSA]

What do you think the Republicans are doing with those children they are removing from their parents, TSA? Just curious.

1002860688560349184

[Winehole23]

In concluding that this seems picayune, it is not my purpose to challenge the technical legal sufficiency of the charge. The requirement to prove a false statement was “material” (see Section 1001 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001) of the federal penal code) is a very low hurdle.

[boutons_deux]

Mueller investigation cost $16.7M over the first year,

Trump's golf trips cost $67M (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/1/1768646/-Mueller-investigation-cost-16-7M-over-the-first-year)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/1/1768646/-Mueller-investigation-cost-16-7M-over-the-first-year?detail=emaildkre

[Winehole23]

the rest is hortatory: MOAR Congressional oversight of the Mueller investigation.

[boutons_deux]

the rest is hortatory: MOAR Congressional oversight of the Mueller investigation.

Nunes intending to impeach Rosenstein, so a replacement will shutdown Mueller, is heavy oversight

[Pavlov]

Oh look, more innuendo from TSA's blog overlords.

At least this hack isn't anonymous. I do like how he links up his entire blog echo chamber.

[Winehole23]

Nunes intending to impeach Rosenstein, so a replacement will shutdown Mueller, is heavy oversightwon't happen. DJT firing Rosenstein is only slightly more likely.

[boutons_deux]

won't happen. DJT firing Rosenstein is only slightly more likely.

nope, but it's evidence of how extreme, anti-legal Nunes and many Repugs are.

All Politics, All The Time and Politics is Above The Law

House Republicans Close to President Trump Draft Articles of Impeachment Against Rod Rosenstein

http://time.com/5260719/rod-rosenstein-articles-of-impeachment/

nothing but intimidation. Rosenstein doesn't appear to be intimidated


Rosenstein knocks Republicans who want to impeach him: 'They can't even resist leaking their own drafts'

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/385713-rosenstein-knocks-republicans-who-wrote-draft-calling-for-his

[Pavlov]

nope, but it's evidence of how extreme, anti-legal Nunes and many Repugs are.

All Politics, All The Time and Politics is Above The Law

House Republicans Close to President Trump Draft Articles of Impeachment Against Rod Rosenstein

http://time.com/5260719/rod-rosenstein-articles-of-impeachment/

nothing but intimidation. Rosenstein doesn't appear to be intimidated


Rosenstein knocks Republicans who want to impeach him: 'They can't even resist leaking their own drafts'

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/385713-rosenstein-knocks-republicans-who-wrote-draft-calling-for-his:lmao

That's the funniest thing you've ever posted.

And it's true....

[boutons_deux]

:lmao

That's the funniest thing you've ever posted.

And it's true....

thanks for reading. You intelligence has advanced a tiny bit.

[Pavlov]

thanks for reading. You intelligence has advanced a tiny bit.:rollin

[djohn2oo8]

1002984462282625029

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

1002983228129599489
lol or he could just tell the truth

[Pavlov]

1002983228129599489
lol or he could just tell the truthThat suggests he has the ability to tell the truth.

[djohn2oo8]

That suggests he has the ability to tell the truth.

He is gonna take that subpoena and like it.

[boutons_deux]

Muellers' prosecuting sharks would chew Trash to pieces.

Even if he lied (as Clinton was charged with), Repugs wouldn't impeach/convict him.

And I don't think the Dems, if in (marginal) control of both chambers, would have enough votes, either.

The Repug official position is that Mueller etc are conflicted, politicized so the witch hunt is illegit, iow, Mueller deserves to be lied to by Trash, and the Repugs would laugh their asses off.

[Chris]

7bdlzcHS2xM

28 seems like a lot.



:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

1003019764997017601
:rollin

[boutons_deux]

1003019764997017601
:rollin

Trash and his mafiya numersouly guilty of collusion, and there we see Trash obstructing justice/covering up the crime.

[djohn2oo8]

1003021062299365379

Funny. The strategy changed from ignoring it to now going to court. Damn right he is. Right before the GJ :lol

[boutons_deux]

Trump's lawyers argued president could not have obstructed Russia probe: NYT

President Donald Trump’s lawyers argued in a letter to the special counsel investigating Russia’s alleged meddling in the 2016 U.S. election that the president could not have obstructed the probe given the powers granted to him by the U.S. Constitution,

In the Jan. 29 letter to Special Counsel Robert Mueller,

Trump’s lawyers contended that the Constitution gives the president the power

to “terminate the inquiry,

or even exercise his power to pardon,” and

that meant he could not illegally obstruct the investigation :lol

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g7-summit-finance/g7-finance-chiefs-kick-trade-dispute-to-leaders-summit-in-quebec-idUSKCN1IY0QL?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29

First class lawyering, The Best People

[boutons_deux]

Why the Bombshell Trump Letter Could Be a Big Problem for Donald Trump Jr.

It undercuts the veracity of Trump Jr.’s testimony to Congress.

The missive also raised a possible problem for Donald Trump Jr.:

it suggested he had not told Congress the whole truth—and might have even misled the body—regarding the cover story

he put out when it was revealed that during the campaign he, Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort had met with a Russian emissary after being told she would share with them dirt on Hillary Clinton, as part of a Kremlin operation to help Trump.

The letter from Trump’s lawyers goes further than the Times’s account—and confirms an earlier Washington Post report (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-dictated-sons-misleading-statement-on-meeting-with-russian-lawyer/2017/07/31/04c94f96-73ae-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.4ab2a64a7549) pegging Trump as the author of the statement.

It states,

“the President dictated a short but accurate response to the New York Times article on behalf of his son, Donald Trump, Jr.” Dictated—

that means Trump devised that misleading statement.

This is the first time Trump and his lawyers have conceded that he is responsible for the statement.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/06/bombshell-letter-trump-jr-congress-testimony/

Why would Trash want to LIE on paper about the DTJr's meeting with Pootin's people?

[Pavlov]

7bdlzcHS2xM

28 seems like a lot.



:lmaoWait, I thought the IG report was the end-all be-all of the Clinton email issue.

You guys have already moved back to muh Nunes.

:lol

[boutons_deux]

Legal Blog Suggests Russian Trolls Had Help From Israel-Based Firm to Influence 2016 Election

A secretive Israeli firm may have played a major role in Russian attempts to influence the 2016 presidential election in favor of then-candidate Donald Trump,

. Less attention, however, has focused on seemingly similar efforts from an Israeli firm first identified by the New York Timesin a May 19 report (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/trump-jr-saudi-uae-nader-prince-zamel.html) about a meeting between Donald Trump Jr., mercenary Erik Prince, emissary George Nader and the founder of PSY-Group, Joel Zamel.

PSY-Group, now-defunct, was formerly based in Tel Aviv. According to the Times’ initial report:

The social media specialist, Joel Zamel, extolled his company’s ability to give an edge to a political campaign;

by that time, the firm had already drawn up a multimillion-dollar proposal for a social media manipulation effort to help elect Mr. Trump…

The plan involved using thousands of fake social media accounts to promote Mr. Trump’s candidacy on platforms like Facebook.

Nader eventually paid Zamel some $2 million for the firm’s work. Special counsel Robert Mueller‘s team has also worked with Israeli police to seize computers from one of Zamel’s companies.

Additionally, Mueller has been investigating the

transfer of funds into PSY-Group’s overseas bank account in Cyprus, :lol

according to Bloomberg News (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-22/mueller-targeted-flows-of-money-to-israeli-social-media-company). And the Wall Street Journal recently reported that

PSY-Group “formed a strategic partnership (https://www.wsj.com/articles/israeli-intelligence-company-formed-venture-with-trump-campaign-firm-cambridge-analytica-1527030765)” with controversial data firm Cambridge Analytica–after the 2016 election.


https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/legal-blog-suggests-russian-trolls-had-help-from-israel-based-firm-to-influence-2016-election/

Secy of Commerce Wilbur Ross's bank again?, so popular with Russian wealth-hiding mafiya, oligarchs?

[boutons_deux]

Russia may be thrown out of INTERPOL after using sham warrant to detain American critic

Russia may be suspended from INTERPOL, an international criminal justice compact that allows for international arrests, after using a sham warrant to cause a prominent American-born critic to be detained, The Telegraph reports (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/02/russia-should-suspended-interpol-using-international-arrest/).



https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/590659445920817152/G7cZdC3z_bigger.jpg (https://twitter.com/Billbrowder)Bill Browder
(https://twitter.com/Billbrowder)
(https://twitter.com/Billbrowder)✔@Billbrowder
(https://twitter.com/Billbrowder)
Group of top British MPs call for Russia to be suspended from Interpol after

the fiasco in Madrid where the Russians tried for the 6th time to abuse Interpol and have me arrested.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/02/russia-should-suspended-interpol-using-international-arrest/ … (https://t.co/o2qN3nLkWt)


4:37 PM - Jun 2, 2018 (https://twitter.com/Billbrowder/status/1003027848905592832)


https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/russia-may-thrown-interpol-using-sham-warrant-detain-american-critic/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/russia-may-thrown-interpol-using-sham-warrant-detain-american-critic/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)


Magnitsky campaigner Bill Browder detained then released in Spain

The head of investment fund Hermitage Capital Management posted a photo on Twitter which appeared to have been taken from the back of a police vehicle.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/magnitsky-campaigner-bill-browder-detained-then-released-spain-n878471

For you people who can't keep up, the DJTJr meeting with Pootin's people in June 16 was really about getting Obama's sanctions after Magnitsky's death annulled.

Obama's financial sanctions REALLY hurt Pootin and friends.

Magnitsky sanctions were probably Flynn's main, maybe only, topic in his phone calls to Russia

[Chris]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeteKWdUEAAg74I.jpg:large


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[boutons_deux]

Damn, even weekends aren't free of major news about Trash and his mafiya, and Sunday morning shows yet to come.

Watch: Watergate prosecutor compares Trump to King George as he destroys ‘flimflam’ new legal memo

A leaked memo obtained by the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/02/us/politics/trump-lawyers-memo-mueller-subpoena.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news) lays out President Trump’s defiant response to the Mueller investigation,

claiming the president can’t be charged for his possible crimes (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/trump-lawyers-claim-president-cant-charged-obstructing-justice-memo-given-robert-mueller-report/) because he’s the president.

The memo was promptly destroyed on MSNBC by Nick Akerman (https://twitter.com/nickakerman), who was an assistant Watergate prosecutor.

Akerman said Trump is surrounded by terrible legal talent

and that his argument sounds like something that would be claimed by the British King who inspired the American Revolution.

“First of all, the whole idea that he can’t be charged with obstruction of justice—

the last time that ever happened in this country is when we were ruled by King George.

That’s what the whole rule of law is about.

The president has to faithfully execute the laws.

If it he winds up having the corrupt intent to put the kibosh to an investigation,

that’s obstruction of justice.

If I advise someone to take the fifth amendment that’s fine.

But if I do it with the corrupt intent to cover up crimes I committed,

that’s obstruction of justice.

That applies to the president.

The U.S. Supreme Court said no man is above the law.”

Former U.S. Attorney Barbara L. McQuade agreed the memo was full of substandard legal reasoning and was unlikely to influence Mueller.

“They’re just trying to put up a bunch of flimflam.

Donald Trump is just a flimflam artist trying to sell more snake oil, and

this is another way to package the same snake oil he’s been selling to the public through Rudy Giuliani for the last week,” said Akerman.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/watch-watergate-prosecutor-compares-trump-king-george-destroys-flimflam-new-legal-memo/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Chris]

lmao


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[Pavlov]

lmao


1003067864905965570Devin Nunes goes nuts. CNN shows Nunes going nute. Then Devin Nunes shows CNN showing Devin Nunes going nuts.


lol Nunes

[Reck]

lmao


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Geez. Nunes reduced to nervous laughter about a CNN piece.

[Pavlov]

Yeah, the whole point is Nunes that is ducking muh investigation after the sooper-dooper mother nuke of all showdowns with the FBI and DOJ.

Chris and TSA are moping around, wondering what happened to their hero.

[Chris]

Pavlov and Reck defending their favorite media outlet.

[Pavlov]

Pavlov and Reck defending their favorite media outlet.They don't need defending in this case.

Nunes went nuts.

Why is he ducking the press after the big showdown, Chris?

[Chris]

They don't need defending in this case.

Nunes went nuts.

Why is he ducking the press after the big showdown, Chris?

Why is he obliged?

[Pavlov]

Why is he obliged?He's a congressman who made a big deal about it before it happened.

Why is he ducking the press after the big showdown, Chris?

[Chris]

He's a congressman who made a big deal about it before it happened.

Why is he ducking the press after the big showdown, Chris?

That's not a good reason Pavlov. Why is Nunes obliged to talk to CNN?

[Pavlov]

That's not a good reason Pavlov. Why is Nunes obliged to talk to CNN?Not just CNN.

He's not talking about it to anyone.

He's talking about nuts.

Why not comment on the big showdown?

Chop chop.

[Chris]

Not just CNN.

He's not talking about it to anyone.

He's talking about nuts.

Why not comment on the big showdown?

Chop chop.

What's the rush Pavlov? He's allowed to talk about pistachios if he wants.

[Pavlov]

What's the rush Pavlov? He's allowed to talk about pistachios if he wants.lol defending Nunes' hiding from the press.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s legal memo to Robert Mueller is a recipe for tyranny

A clear and present danger to the rule of law

Essentially all presidents sooner or later end up commissioning lawyers to put forward an expansive view of presidential power, but those lawyers take pains to argue that they are notmaking the case for a totally unchecked executive whose existence would pose a fundamental threat to American values.

Donald Trump, however, is a different kind of president.

In a 20-page memo written by Trump’s legal team and delivered to Robert Mueller, as reported by the New York Time’s this weekend,

they make an unusually frank case for a tyrannical interpretation of presidential power.

Trump’s lawyers say he has unlimited power over criminal justice

The key passage in the memo is one in which Trump’s lawyers argue that not only was there nothing shady going on when FBI Director James Comey got fired

there isn’t even any potential shadiness to investigate

because the president is allowed to be as shady as he wants to be

when it comes to overseeing federal law enforcement.

He can fire whoever he wants.

Shut down any investigation or open up a new one.

This is a particularly extreme version of the

“unitary executive” doctrine that conservative legal scholars sometimes appeal to

(especially when there’s a Republican president),

drawing on the notion that the executive branch of government —

including the federal police agencies and federal prosecutors —

are a single entity personified by the president.

But to push that logic into this terrain

would not only give the president carte blanche to persecute his enemies

but essentially vitiate the idea that there are any enforceable laws at all.

https://www.vox.com/2018/6/3/17421300/trumps-interview-subpoena (https://www.vox.com/2018/6/3/17421300/trumps-interview-subpoena)

So I suppose after great intellectual legal laboring, Trash's shitty lawyers can only say, the only way that Trash can be saved is that

"Trash is above the law, so the investigation is bogus, and Trash can stop it without any repercussions"

... so why doesn't he stop Mueller now? Why the hesitation?

[boutons_deux]

Rudy Giuliani: Trump ‘probably’ has the power to pardon himself — but ‘he has no intention’ of doing it

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/rudy-giuliani-trump-probably-power-pardon-no-intention/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[djohn2oo8]

Rudy Giuliani: Trump ‘probably’ has the power to pardon himself — but ‘he has no intention’ of doing it

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/rudy-giuliani-trump-probably-power-pardon-no-intention/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

2 things about that. 1. No he does not have that power. 2. Funny how he didn't say that Trump had no need to pardon himself.

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao now Trump distancing himself from Manafort

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao fucking Rudy

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

I remember how TSA said Trump did not dictate that statement about the tower meeting :lol

[djohn2oo8]

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[ducks]

Mark Penn “Why are there people from the Clinton Foundation on the Mueller Staff? Why is there an Independent Counsel? To go after people and their families for unrelated offenses...Constitution was set up to prevent this...Stormtrooper tactics almost.” A disgrace!

[Pavlov]

Mark Penn “Why are there people from the Clinton Foundation on the Mueller Staff? Why is there an Independent Counsel? To go after people and their families for unrelated offenses...Constitution was set up to prevent this...Stormtrooper tactics almost.” A disgrace!It's not an independent counsel.

Dude failed.

[djohn2oo8]

1003399294634921984
Things guilty people say

[Trill Clinton]

1003399294634921984
Things guilty people say

http://i67.tinypic.com/11aaa6u.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Awkward: Rudy Giuliani Opens MTP Interview by Calling Chuck Todd ‘Todd’… Then ‘Chris’

Just moments after being welcomed to the show by MSNBC’s Chuck Todd, Giuliani called him by his last name.

“It’s nice to be with you Todd,” he said.

Todd, aptly called by that name in news reports but not during on-camera interviews, began to respond as Giuliani noticed the blunder, piping up with, “Chris!”

“We’re not playing baseball,” the attorney joked.

Todd laughed, making light of the moment.

“We won’t do the last names, Giuliani,” he said.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/awkward-rudy-giuliani-opens-mtp-interview-by-calling-chuck-todd-todd-then-chris/ (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/awkward-rudy-giuliani-opens-mtp-interview-by-calling-chuck-todd-todd-then-chris/)

[ElNono]

so obama and/or clinton were willing to do this "worse than watergate" spying and fake investigation, no problem.

but releasing unverified information that could have swung the election and allowed them to get away with it? nope, they're too honorable to do that

which defeats the purpose of this whole conspiracy theory. making the dangerous play of breaking the law at every step that they aren't going to use UNLESS trump, the guy who can bust them, gets elected.

look, its not my fault your theory doesnt make sense

yup, zero sense. Not to mention that now-bad-dude Comey was then-good-dude Comey because he had no qualms reopening the investigation on Shillary, days before the election.

[Winehole23]

:lmao now Trump distancing himself from Manafort


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[djohn2oo8]

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:lol

[djohn2oo8]

1003616210922147841
:lmao things guilty people say.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao can't fucking spell
:lmao Manafort got that boy shook

[djohn2oo8]

Damn. TSA and Chris in hiding after spygate. Perfecting their vanishing acts to match Trump's presidency

[boutons_deux]

Chris Christie Rebuts Trump’s Manafort Claim: Not DOJ’s Job to Vet Your Campaign

“I did this for seven years George, as you know as U.S. attorney,” Christie told George Stephanopoulos in response to Trump’s tweet.

“I don’t care what you’re running for. We’re not telling you.”

“We’re not a private investigation firm to help you with vetting your people who you employ in your campaign,”

Christie continued.

“The fact is, that the reason we operate that way is because in the Justice Department we’re supposed to keep those things secret.

We’re legally bound to keep them secret

unless and until we have some type of charges to announce.

and people want it that way because

you don’t want every rumor and every investigation that’s run down by the Justice Department there in public.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-christie-rebuts-trumps-manafort-claim-not-fbis-job-to-vet-your-campaign/ (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-christie-rebuts-trumps-manafort-claim-not-fbis-job-to-vet-your-campaign/)

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Lawyers Argue That He Cannot Be Impeached Because He Was Never Actually Elected


WASHINGTON —In what they believe is a legal masterstroke, lawyers for Donald J. Trump are now claiming that he cannot be impeached because he was never actually elected.

In a lengthy memo sent to the special counsel, Robert Mueller, the

lawyers pushed back vehemently against any allegation that Trump was legally elected President.
“Because Russian interference made the election of Donald J. Trump wholly illegitimate,

any attempt to remove him from an office that he does not legally hold is clearly impossible,” the memo asserted.

The memo claimed that the

Constitution contains “no provision for removing a person from office when that person was installed there by a foreign power.”

The memo went on to argue that, if a subpoena is sent to the White House, it will be returned to Mueller and stamped “addressee unknown.”

“A person referred to in a subpoena as ‘President’ Donald J. Trump simply does not exist,” the memo claimed.

Minutes after the memo was leaked, the former New York mayor

Rudolph Giuliani appeared on “Fox & Friends” and proudly announced that he was its author.

“Sometimes I have to just step back and say, ‘Damn it, Rudy, you’re good,’ ” he said, beaming.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trumps-lawyers-argue-that-he-cannot-be-impeached-because-he-was-never-actually-elected (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trumps-lawyers-argue-that-he-cannot-be-impeached-because-he-was-never-actually-elected)

[boutons_deux]

The View’s Meghan McCain whines Trump scandals are too confusing to care about :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/views-meghan-mccain-whines-trump-scandals-confusing-care-gets-promptly-set-straight/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[djohn2oo8]

1003676875095461889
My nugga

[boutons_deux]

DOJ Website Clearly Contradicts Trump on Presidential Self-Pardons

In a memo dated August 5, 1974 (https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/olc/opinions/1974/08/31/op-olc-supp-v001-p0370_0.pdf) and authored by Acting Assistant Attorney General, Mary C. Lawton, the DOJ notes, “Under the fundamental rule that no one may be a judge in his own case, the President cannot pardon himself.”

The memo continues:

Pursuant to Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution, the “Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment,” is vested in the President.

This raises the question whether the President can pardon himself.

Under the fundamental rule that no one may be a judge in his own case,

it would seem that the question should be answered in the negative.


Lawton’s analysis isn’t particularly lengthy;

the entire memo tops out at just shy of three full pages.

In the memo, Lawton raises–then immediately dismisses–the possibility of applying the necessity doctrine to a situation that might result in an attempt at a presidential self-pardon.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/doj-website-clearly-contradicts-trump-on-presidential-self-pardons/ (https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/doj-website-clearly-contradicts-trump-on-presidential-self-pardons/)

[spurraider21]

the idea of a president pardoning himself is completely absurd imo

putting aside the legal question of whether it's constitutional or not... its an asinine concept

[Pavlov]

the idea of a president pardoning himself is completely absurd imo

putting aside the legal question of whether it's constitutional or not... its an asinine conceptThe right wing is going to lose their minds when they find out Obombabummer pardoned himself for everything he did and will ever do right before he left office.

That's why he can't be impeached now!

[DarrinS]

1003676875095461889
My nugga

Lulz

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/03/how-comey-succeeded-where-nixon-failed/

[Pavlov]

:lol Daily Caller

Darrin just eats this shit with a spoon.

[Spurminator]

Cool, another article that Darrin won't try to defend when anyone points out its fallacies.

Certainly not wasting my time anymore.

[Pavlov]

Cool, another article that Darrin won't try to defend when anyone points out its fallacies.

Certainly not wasting my time anymore.IT'S WORSE THAN WATERGATE Y'ALL

[boutons_deux]

the idea of a president pardoning himself is completely absurd imo

putting aside the legal question of whether it's constitutional or not... its an asinine concept

Trash said it, he believes it because "lawyers said he could", so 10Ms of his supporters, Repugs believe it, too.

[djohn2oo8]

Trash said it, he believes it because "lawyers said he could", so 10Ms of his supporters, Repugs believe it, too.

They can believe it all they want. It would not fly in court. SCOTUS would strike that down quickly.

[Chucho]

Damn. TSA and Chris in hiding after spygate. Perfecting their vanishing acts to match Trump's presidency


He's going to finish his presidency. Their vanishing acts match the Rocket's playoff run, specifically Harden's when it matters most. This is all you have, stick to it, you're still in this.

[djohn2oo8]

He's going to finish his presidency. Their vanishing acts match the Rocket's playoff run, specifically Harden's when it matters most. This is all you have, stick to it, you're still in this.
No he won't. Want to know why? Because guilty people don't need pardons. Once he is removed, you can join those other dysfunctional retards as I strap you all to the horse chariot and drag your asses all over this site :lol

[Chucho]

No he won't. Want to know why? Because guilty people don't need pardons. Once he is removed, you can join those other dysfunctional retards as I strap you all to the horse chariot and drag your asses all over this site :lol

LOL, that's a wet dream for you, bub.



This is all you have

[TSA]

Damn. TSA and Chris in hiding after spygate. Perfecting their vanishing acts to match Trump's presidency

not spending my weekend on spurstalk = hiding :rollin

[TSA]

No he won't. Want to know why? Because guilty people don't need pardons. Once he is removed, you can join those other dysfunctional retards as I strap you all to the horse chariot and drag your asses all over this site :lol

:lmao you’re either delusion or trolling.

[Chucho]

:lmao you’re either delusion or trolling.

...or retarded.

Someone who's best-case-scenario is trying to insult people on an insult board and can't properly read a box score is probably retarded. Either way, this is all he has.

[djohn2oo8]

not spending my weekend on spurstalk = hiding :rollin

You have been very quiet after spygate :lol

[djohn2oo8]

...or retarded.

Someone who's best-case-scenario is trying to insult people on an insult board and can't properly read a box score is probably retarded. Either way, this is all he has.

"retarded". Then complains about insults :lmao

[Chucho]

"retarded". Then complains about insults :lmao


Wow. You really are retarded.

No one's complaining about insults, I'm making fun of how sad you are and that you thinking "dragging asses across this site" is pwnage of some sort. :lmao

Retard.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmKfEayVsRQ

[Pavlov]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmKfEayVsRQ
WOW LOOK EVERYONE DARRIN POSTED A VIDEO AND WON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S THE BIGGEST THING EVER WORSE THAN WATERGATE FOX NEWS SAID SO

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPdXn5jNBR8

[Pavlov]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPdXn5jNBR8WOW LOOK EVERYONE DARRIN POSTED ANOTHER VIDEO AND WON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S THE BIGGEST THING EVER WORSE THAN WATERGATE FOX NEWS SAID SO AGAIN THANKS GOD FOR THE WHITES

[spurraider21]

"just leaving this here"

[Pavlov]

"just leaving this here"NOW THEY'LL HAVE TO WATCH THEM JUST BECAUSE THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING THEM

[DarrinS]

All caps tantrums. lol

[Winehole23]

homage to ducks would be my guess

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VODtxoNoK6o

[Pavlov]

All caps tantrums. lollol I'm mocking you, Darrin.

Are you just afraid to make comments or are you really that mindless, Darrin?

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

1003418697933967362How can say you hope something will be let go if you think it has already been let go, Chris?

lol "all but over" is not over

[DarrinS]

lol I'm mocking you, Darrin.

Are you just afraid to make comments or are you really that mindless, Darrin?


Should I add some embellishments like a strategically placed “Lordy!”?

[Pavlov]

Should I add some embellishments like a strategically placed “Lordy!”?At least there is text to read in his tweets, Darrin.

I'm not saying you should have any ideas of your own; just don't get pissy when it's pointed out you have no ideas of your own, Darrin.

You have no ideas of your own. You're a mindless bot.

[Chris]

How can say you hope something will be let go if you think it has already been let go, Chris?

lol "all but over" is not over

How can you obstruct an investigation if the DOJ can neither confirm or deny the investigation and the FBI agents telling Flynn he wasn't being investigated? There goes your obstruction theory.

[djohn2oo8]

How can you obstruct an investigation if the DOJ can neither confirm or deny the investigation and the FBI agents telling Flynn he wasn't being investigated? There goes your obstruction theory.

By going on national television and saying you fired the man leading your investigation because of the investigation you are tied to.

[Pavlov]

How can you obstruct an investigation if the DOJ can neither confirm or deny the investigation and the FBI agents telling Flynn he wasn't being investigated?Quite easily tbh.

[Chris]

By going on national television and saying you fired the man leading your investigation because of the investigation you are tied to.

Trump can fire who he pleases and he can also go on national television and talk about it at any time. Your obstruction thingy just lost its legs. Sorry about that.

[djohn2oo8]

Another example. Trump lying stating he did not dictate that statement about the Trump tower meeting when that turned out to be a lie

[djohn2oo8]

Trump can fire who he pleases and he can also go on national television and talk about it at any time. Your obstruction thingy just lost its legs. Sorry about that.

No son. Firing the man leading your investigation and then mentioning that investigation as the reason shows corrupt intent. Stating he was going to fire regardless of recommendation shows corrupt intent.

[djohn2oo8]

Example 3. Telling Sessions to reverse his recusal.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao

[Chris]

lol Jim Acosta

[Pavlov]

lol Jim Acostalol even the spokesperson can't speak without referring to a lawyer