Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[TSA]

This shit is going to get confusing.

What is your aspect ratio? :lol

[TSA]

TSA posts things that I generally don't run across in my normal information flows, that challenge my underlying operating assumptions.

That is good for me, as well as the opportunity to identify flaws in thinking and reasoning, as with many self-styled "conservative" or libertarian thinkers.

If I wasn't here you would probably still think the DNC was actually hacked and not an inside job.

[TSA]

I find that few people are all that interested in that question and don't ask it.

I am genuinely interested in what you really think is going on here. You don't seem to be stupid and your conclusion is completely different from mine. I admit my default Occam's Razor reasoning looks pretty lazy, but there is a reason it has such a cool name. I think that someone had to do a lot of work to come to the conclusions you seem to have reached, so yeah -- I'm asking about it and I'm not afraid to ask you about it multiple times. I'm never going to understand your point of view here if you refuse to explain it.

The baffling part is why you refuse.

I've told you what I think is going on and have done so multiple times. I don't keep responding to the same question when you ask it day after day.

[boutons_deux]

Russia Prime Minister: new US sanctions amount to ‘full-scale trade war’

http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Russian-Prime-Minister-Dmitry-Medvedev-at-the-Gorki-residence-outside-Moscow-on-March-29-2013.-AFP-e1483100725813-800x430.jpg

Medvedev also said in a Facebook post that the sanctions showed

the Trump administration was utterly powerless. WINNING! :lol

“The hope that our relations with the new American administration would improve is finished,” he wrote.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/russia-prime-minister-new-us-sanctions-amount-to-full-scale-trade-war/

:lol Trash is WINNING friends in PootinLand.

[RandomGuy]

It would technically be a draw. We would then move on to see if anyone serves jail time. If no one serves jail time we will move on to who is fined the most.

Wow, that so does not interest me, but hey.

What do I get if I win?

The only thing I really would want is for you read a formal article or two on critical thinking, and pick something to apply it to some of your 4chan stuff. I have been reading up a lot trying to find material to teach my kids, so I have some good resources.

[RandomGuy]

If I wasn't here you would probably still think the DNC was actually hacked and not an inside job.

I am still not entirely convinced even so. Your source has a definite ax to grind, and that leads me to be cautious about accepting conclusions. People that are trying that hard will shoehorn round pegs into square holes, and not blink at the result.

It wouldn't interest me enough to dig into.

[TSA]

Wow, that so does not interest me, but hey.

What do I get if I win?

The only thing I really would want is for you read a formal article or two on critical thinking, and pick something to apply it to some of your 4chan stuff. I have been reading up a lot trying to find material to teach my kids, so I have some good resources.From the OP bet


friendly avatar bet. Winner chooses losers avatar, you determine the length of the terms.

[TSA]

I am still not entirely convinced even so. Your source has a definite ax to grind, and that leads me to be cautious about accepting conclusions. People that are trying that hard will shoehorn round pegs into square holes, and not blink at the result.

It wouldn't interest me enough to dig into.

What sort of axe to grind did VIPS have? I thought you said their work was well respected.

[AaronY]

Russia Prime Minister: new US sanctions amount to ‘full-scale trade war’

http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Russian-Prime-Minister-Dmitry-Medvedev-at-the-Gorki-residence-outside-Moscow-on-March-29-2013.-AFP-e1483100725813-800x430.jpg

Medvedev also said in a Facebook post that the sanctions showed

the Trump administration was utterly powerless. WINNING! :lol

“The hope that our relations with the new American administration would improve is finished,” he wrote.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/russia-prime-minister-new-us-sanctions-amount-to-full-scale-trade-war/

:lol Trash is WINNING friends in PootinLand.



So you hated him when he was friendly with Russia and now you hate him because he's not getting along Russia

[TSA]

So you hated him when he was friendly with Russia and now you hate him because he's not getting along Russia

He's not the only one here. Funny how quickly things change.

[Pavlov]

I've told you what I think is going on and have done so multiple times.Not really though. Your theory is pretty vague and doesn't make much sense on its face.

Your claim is that only Democrats are going to be indicted by Mueller. You don't say for what and how they did whatever you think it is they did. You just leave it for others to fill in the blanks which is incredibly lazy and disingenuous. When I ask you directly, you start hiding behind your games like "questions three" and hanging up any discussion on minutiae that really doesn't matter at all.

You lead with something like "The Mother of All Conspiracies" and end up with the vague assertion that child abuse happens in the world. You say stuff like "I think the Mueller investigation isn't going to go the way you think it will." Great. Say the way you think it will go. To do so, you have to include pretty much everything you think the Democrats did in some detail. Otherwise, you look like just another ST conspiracy dude who pouts and whines when he is called out.

These are your claims. State what they are and your evidence to support them. You could have done that several times over today already , but you just want to post personal insults, play games and change your avatar.

[boutons_deux]

Russian Prime Minister and President Putin’s right-hand man Dmitry Medvedev posted a vicious message to Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/Dmitry.Medvedev/posts/10154587161801851)

"The US President’s signing of the package of new sanctions against Russia will have a few consequences.

First, it ends hopes for improving our relations with the new US administration.

Second, it is a declaration of a full-fledged economic war on Russia.

Third, the Trump administration has shown its total weakness by handing over executive power to Congress in the most humiliating way.

This changes the power balance in US political circles.

What does it mean for them?

The US establishment fully outwitted Trump;

the President is not happy about the new sanctions, yet he could not but sign the bill.

The issue of new sanctions came about, primarily, as another way to knock Trump down a peg.

New steps are to come, and they will ultimately aim to remove him from power.

A non-systemic player has to be removed.

Meanwhile, the interests of the US business community are all but ignored, with politics chosen over a pragmatic approach.

Anti-Russian hysteria has become a key part of both US foreign policy (which has occurred many times) and domestic policy (which is a novelty)."

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/02/russian-prime-minister-just-humiliated-trump-scathingly-personal-facebook-post/

wow! :lol

Pootin calling Trash "total weakness" which is Russian for "obesity-caused impotence" :lol

[boutons_deux]

So you hated him when he was friendly with Russia and now you hate him because he's not getting along Russia

You must be taking lessons from pgarden for "Fucked Up Takes"

[TSA]

Not really though. Your theory is pretty vague and doesn't make much sense on its face.

Your claim is that only Democrats are going to be indicted by Mueller. You don't say for what and how they did whatever you think it is they did. You just leave it for others to fill in the blanks which is incredibly lazy and disingenuous. When I ask you directly, you start hiding behind your games like "questions three" and hanging up any discussion on minutiae that really doesn't matter at all.

You lead with something like "The Mother of All Conspiracies" and end up with the vague assertion that child abuse happens in the world. You say stuff like "I think the Mueller investigation isn't going to go the way you think it will." Great. Say the way you think it will go. To do so, you have to include pretty much everything you think the Democrats did in some detail. Otherwise, you look like just another ST conspiracy dude who pouts and whines when he is called out.

These are your claims. State what they are and your evidence to support them. You could have done that several times over today already , but you just want to post personal insults, play games and change your avatar.

Again, I've stated what I think happened numerous times and posted what I feel supports my position. Much of it is in this very thread. I asked you three simple questions to see if we could at least agree on a starting point for my theory and refused to answer them and give a bullshit excuse as to why. You then expect me to repost everything I've said in a 300 page thread. Not playing that game with you.

You have certainly changed your tone though and now seem like you actually do want to discuss the topic. We'll see how long that lasts.

[Blake]

:lol dude this is usually how it goes:

Tsa: I think pizza is tasty. Pepperoni is shown to have health benefits.
Someone else: what kind of benefits?
Tsa: why don't you think pizza is tasty?
SE: I do but what about the pepperoni benefits?
Tsa: answer my question first!


Then it's another 100 posts going in circles

[Pavlov]

Again, I've stated what I think happened numerous times and posted what I feel supports my position. Much of it is in this very thread. I asked you three simple questions to see if we could at least agree on a starting point for my theory and refused to answer them and give a bullshit excuse as to why. You then expect me to repost everything I've said in a 300 page thread. Not playing that game with you.

You have certainly changed your tone though and now seem like you actually do want to discuss the topic. We'll see how long that lasts.:lol Trying to justify your "questions three" game.

Agree on a starting point for your theory? It's your theory. Start it wherever you want, champ.

No games. Go.

[TSA]

:lol dude this is usually how it goes:

Tsa: I think pizza is tasty. Pepperoni is shown to have health benefits.
Someone else: what kind of benefits?
Tsa: why don't you think pizza is tasty?
SE: I do but what about the pepperoni benefits?
Tsa: answer my question first!


Then it's another 100 posts going in circles

Fail. Question was answered with I do.

[boutons_deux]

House Republicans want to investigate Hillary Clinton, after having “done zero” about Trump-Russia probes

Rep. Bob Goodlatte believes it's "redundant" for several committees to investigate alleged Trump campaign ties

The House Judiciary Committee has turned an investigation into any possible collusion between President Donald Trump and Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign into a witch hunt,

probing “decisions made by President Barack Obama’s Justice Department in its probe of Clinton’s use of a private email server, :lol

as well as alleged Clinton ties to foreign governments and :lol

the leaking of classified information,” :lol

The new focus comes after Democrats on the House panel sought further information on the role of Attorney General Jeff Sessions in the firing of former FBI Director James Comey.

But Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., and Republicans instead pivoted and “turned it into a request demanding new probes into Clinton,”

http://www.salon.com/2017/08/02/house-republicans-want-to-investigate-hillary-clinton-after-having-done-zero-about-trump-russia-probes/

But Repugs running like 8 committees and wasting $10M to harass Hillary

WHILE

FBI was investigating Hillary

was not "redundant"

[TSA]

:lol Trying to justify your "questions three" game.

Agree on a starting point for your theory? It's your theory. Start it wherever you want, champ.

No games. Go.
I asked the questions because if we don't agree on some basic facts to begin with there is no point in me wasting my time explaining my theory to you.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol dude this is usually how it goes:

Tsa: I think pizza is tasty. Pepperoni is shown to have health benefits.
Someone else: what kind of benefits?
Tsa: why don't you think pizza is tasty?
SE: I do but what about the pepperoni benefits?
Tsa: answer my question first!


Then it's another 100 posts going in circles

Thus my asking why people entertain it. Change the subject, latch on to a red herring, or try to make it about you.

He is blatantly disingenuous and people still argue with him at face value when he deserves nothing but ridicule and condescension.

[TSA]

Thus my asking why people entertain it. Change the subject, latch on to a red herring, or try to make it about you.

He is blatantly display ingenuous and people argue with him at face value when he deserves nothing but ridicule and condescension.
:cry you should all ridicule TSA while I hide behind the ignore feature :cry

grow a pair you fucking pansy

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Now he's trying to draw me into an argument over the ignore feature being on it before. I just refuse to engage. We all know the adage about arguing with fools. I've never seen a more apt example.

[TSA]

:rollin who are you even talking to? :rollin

[Blake]

Fail. Question was answered with I do.

Lol wut? No it wasn't.

Damn you can't read get the simple example

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Someone doesn't understand how a public forum works. This is what I was talking about in terms of being him being a fucking idiot.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYzB96_EK7s

[Pavlov]

I asked the questions because if we don't agree on some basic facts to begin with there is no point in me wasting my time explaining my theory to you.Holy shit dude. What part of YOUR theory do you not understand?

Just post it. If facts turn out to be disputed it doesn't change your theory. Nothing I do or say or think has any effect on your theory.

It's your theory.

No games. No preconditions. No questions three.

Just post it.

[Pavlov]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYzB96_EK7sThanks, Scoop!

[TSA]

Lol wut? No it wasn't.

Damn you can't read get the simple example

dude this is usually how it goes:

Tsa: I think pizza is tasty. Pepperoni is shown to have health benefits.
Someone else: what kind of benefits?
Tsa: why don't you think pizza is tasty?
SE: I do but what about the pepperoni benefits?
Tsa: answer my question first!


Failed attempt. Question was answered. Move on Blake maybe next time you'll get it right.

[TSA]

Holy shit dude. What part of YOUR theory do you not understand?

Just post it. If facts turn out to be disputed it doesn't change your theory. Nothing I do or say or think has any effect on your theory.

It's your theory.

No games. No preconditions. No questions three.

Just post it.

I expect my theory to be challenged I just want to make sure we are on the same page with certain facts before going into detail.

[TSA]

Someone doesn't understand how a public forum works. This is what I was talking about in terms of being him being a fucking idiot.

But no one is conversing with you. So who are you even talking to?

[Pavlov]

I expect my theory to be challenged I just want to make sure we are on the same page with certain facts before going into detail.Just post it.

Go into detail.

No preconditions.

No games.

No questions three.

Just post it.

[djohn2oo8]

892875412535115776
the long dick of the law heading to a Trump near you

[TSA]

Just post it.

Go into detail.

No preconditions.

No games.

No questions three.

Just post it.

Do you mind going over some details before I get started?

[TSA]

892875412535115776
the long dick of the law heading to a Trump near you

How many more pages do we have to wait?

[Pavlov]

Do you mind going over some details before I get started?Actually I do mind.

Just post your theory. If those details are pertinent, they will be in there.

[Blake]

dude this is usually how it goes:

Tsa: I think pizza is tasty. Pepperoni is shown to have health benefits.
Someone else: what kind of benefits?
Tsa: why don't you think pizza is tasty?
SE: I do but what about the pepperoni benefits?
Tsa: answer my question first!


Failed attempt. Question was answered. Move on Blake maybe next time you'll get it right.

You made a claim of health benefits. I'm asking you to expound. Why are you not expounding?

[TSA]

Actually I do mind.

Just post your theory. If those details are pertinent, they will be in there.

Let me know when you have more time and we can go over the details. Tomorrow around noon work? I'm PST.

[TSA]

You made a claim of health benefits. I'm asking you to expound. Why are you not expounding?

You have me yelling answer my question first!

I would not do that IRL because my question was clearly answered and they do think pizza is tasty.

Maybe next time Blake. Time to move on.

[djohn2oo8]

892875288354447360
892875797832314880
892876299190104064
892876449065164800

[Pavlov]

Let me know when you have more time and we can go over the details. Tomorrow around noon work? I'm PST.We have no details to go over. I have nothing at all to do with your posting your theory.

Post it.

After you post it, I will read it. Then we can discuss it.

That's how a discussion board works.

[djohn2oo8]

892893334016061440

[Reck]

:lol dude this is usually how it goes:

Tsa: I think pizza is tasty. Pepperoni is shown to have health benefits.
Someone else: what kind of benefits?
Tsa: why don't you think pizza is tasty?
SE: I do but what about the pepperoni benefits?
Tsa: answer my question first!


Then it's another 100 posts going in circles

:lmao.

I started on page 315 and have since been scanning and skipping this shithole of an argument he's in with Pavlov. I think watching paint dry is more interesting. TSA needs an injection of funny.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

But no one is conversing with you. So who are you even talking to?

:lol still don't get how a bulletin board works.

[djohn2oo8]

892827757511663616
Ruh Roh

[djohn2oo8]

892851499902095363

[djohn2oo8]

892847115281485824

[djohn2oo8]

892915136201199616

[boutons_deux]

He's not the only one here. Funny how quickly things change.

Line up behind pgarden in the long line of ST assholes with hilariously wrong takes.

[boutons_deux]

892915136201199616

Kelly was a Marine General, Trash loves having generals work for him, Trash thinks it makes him his effete, obese ass look manly.

WTF does Kelly know about anything needed to run the WH? about DC politics.

Will he confiscate Trash's TVs and twitter device?

[pgardn]

Line up behind pgarden in the long line of ST assholes with hilariously wrong takes.

This,

is reassuring.

Coming from the worst poster in this forum.
All is well. The Earth has not been knocked off its axis.

[boutons_deux]

Coming from the worst poster in this forum

"There He Goes Again"

[djohn2oo8]

893098964999974912
lol

[Blake]

You have me yelling answer my question first!

I would not do that IRL because my question was clearly answered and they do think pizza is tasty.

Maybe next time Blake. Time to move on.

Lol the round and round on a simple example

My question wasn't answered.

Your questions are clearly answered on many an occasion where you still demand it be answered.

There's some kind of disconnect somewhere with your communication skills. You have dyslexia or something?

[djohn2oo8]

893098964999974912
lol

893107060509786112

[DarrinS]

893107060509786112

By career-long habits, does he mean laws?

[Adam Lambert]

892915136201199616

:lol
the president needs a babysitter to keep him from reacting to fake news

the president

[boutons_deux]

Kelly didnt scare the leaker into not leaking Trash-Nieto telecon transcript to WaPo

[Adam Lambert]

:cry losing his friends

893083735633129472

[ducks]

bad health care will end lives in usa

[RandomGuy]

I've told you what I think is going on and have done so multiple times. I don't keep responding to the same question when you ask it day after day.

If your theory were concrete, testable, and straightforward, it would be a simple matter to outline it, including how it could be falsified.

I have done exactly this. I do not want to believe in anything false, so I make sure what I believe can be tested. If it can't be tested, I do not hold it as true, and if it is actively falsified, I abandon the proposition. If you cared about the truth, you should be able to do the same.

Search functions on this board do not lend themselves easily to find such information, even were one to want to see what your actual opinion is.

You could, quite easily, have re-typed that theory in the time/effort you have spent typing posts that say "I have already posted that, so I am not answering it".

This suggests the hypothesis:

You have no concrete, testable, straightforward theory.

Continued failure to state a clear, coherent is fully consistant with this hypothesis. It can easily be falsified by you typing up a clear, concrete, testable theory. All you really have to do is type something up in a few minutes, then copy and paste that if someone asks in the future. Easy.

I would recommend including an unusual word, such as xylophone, or something similar, to help with any future search in case you want to find it again.

[ducks]

Kelly didnt scare the leaker into not leaking Trash-Nieto telecon transcript to WaPo

who knows when this was leaked

[RandomGuy]

From the OP bet

"friendly avatar bet. Winner chooses losers avatar, you determine the length of the terms."

I am not really interested in that as a bet.

I would vastly prefer that you apply the principles of critical thinking to an op-ed piece, or something you post, correctly identifying any potential logical fallacies. I am interested much less in embarrassing you, than in your well being and self-improvement. FWIW.

[RandomGuy]

dude this is usually how it goes:

Tsa: I think pizza is tasty. Pepperoni is shown to have health benefits.
Someone else: what kind of benefits?
Tsa: why don't you think pizza is tasty?
SE: I do but what about the pepperoni benefits?
Tsa: answer my question first!


Failed attempt. Question was answered. Move on Blake maybe next time you'll get it right.


???

Wow.

Did you really read what you typed there?

You showed yourself committing a logical fallacy (strawman), and evading a simple request for information.

You do understand that, right?

[Pavlov]

:cry losing his friends

893083735633129472893092156117848065

[boutons_deux]

Sons admit $100Ms have flowed into Trash's (bankrupt) businesses

Kushner requested an extra-governmental ENCRYPTED channel from WH to Pootin

Why have Trash and so many of his entourage been in repeated, long contact with Russians, before, during, after the campaign?

Trash
Manafort
Sessions
DJT Jr
Levandoski
Gorka
Flynn
Tillerson
Ross
Kushner
and probably unknown others

Why have they criminally "forgotten" or refused to document their Russian contacts on Federal forms, forgotten what the meeting involved, or even "forgotten" the meetings?

Why have they been caught LYING about their Russian contacts?

If their contacts with Russians were innocent, why then their behaviors that SCREAM COVERUP?

If innocent, why haven't they come clean, proven their innocence?

Behind Trump’s Russia Romance, There’s a Tower Full of Oligarchs

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-16/behind-trump-s-russia-romance-there-s-a-tower-full-of-oligarchs

Where are the contacts, meetings of Trash + entourage with top officials from countries OTHER THAN RUSSIA?

C O V E R U P

[djohn2oo8]

893114292849057792

[boutons_deux]

893114292849057792

why acting head?

Wray has been confirmed as FBI director

[TSA]

:lmao.

I started on page 315 and have since been scanning and skipping this shithole of an argument he's in with Pavlov. I think watching paint dry is more interesting. TSA needs an injection of funny.

If you thought watching paint dry was more interesting you would have been reading since page 315.

[TSA]

:lol still don't get how a bulletin board works.

:lol still hasn't had anyone respond to the OP
:lol talking to yourself

[TSA]

Lol the round and round on a simple example

My question wasn't answered.

Your questions are clearly answered on many an occasion where you still demand it be answered.

There's some kind of disconnect somewhere with your communication skills. You have dyslexia or something?

Time to move on Blake, you've even got RandomGuy confused.

[TSA]

???

Wow.

Did you really read what you typed there?

You showed yourself committing a logical fallacy (strawman), and evading a simple request for information.

You do understand that, right?

I didn't type any of that lol

[TSA]

"friendly avatar bet. Winner chooses losers avatar, you determine the length of the terms."

I am not really interested in that as a bet.

I would vastly prefer that you apply the principles of critical thinking to an op-ed piece, or something you post, correctly identifying any potential logical fallacies. I am interested much less in embarrassing you, than in your well being and self-improvement. FWIW.

I'm much more interested in embarrassing you. Take or leave the original bet.

[Blake]

Time to move on Blake, you've even got RandomGuy confused.

Right. ..it's RG that's confused.

[djohn2oo8]

893149508485382145

[boutons_deux]

893149508485382145

they really really want Trash gone ASAP

[RandomGuy]

I didn't type any of that lol

hmm.

So someone else observed you engaging in deeply flawed reasoning and ignoring simple requests for information.

At least I am not the only one who noticed.

[RandomGuy]

I'm much more interested in embarrassing you. Take or leave the original bet.

You would be.

Leave. I am not a gambler, sorry.

[TSA]

If your theory were concrete, testable, and straightforward, it would be a simple matter to outline it, including how it could be falsified.

I have done exactly this. I do not want to believe in anything false, so I make sure what I believe can be tested. If it can't be tested, I do not hold it as true, and if it is actively falsified, I abandon the proposition. If you cared about the truth, you should be able to do the same.

Search functions on this board do not lend themselves easily to find such information, even were one to want to see what your actual opinion is.

You could, quite easily, have re-typed that theory in the time/effort you have spent typing posts that say "I have already posted that, so I am not answering it".

This suggests the hypothesis:

You have no concrete, testable, straightforward theory.

Continued failure to state a clear, coherent is fully consistant with this hypothesis. It can easily be falsified by you typing up a clear, concrete, testable theory. All you really have to do is type something up in a few minutes, then copy and paste that if someone asks in the future. Easy.

I would recommend including an unusual word, such as xylophone, or something similar, to help with any future search in case you want to find it again.



-Obama administration was trying to help Clinton secure the Presidency
-plan was to get dirt on Trump through intelligence agencies
-Obama loosened rules for unmasking to make dissemination easier
-first attempt for FISA warrant denied
-second attempt using Dem paid for Fusion GPS unverified dossier successful
-Trump team now under surveillance
-ability to monitor and leak to press as needed
-DNC "hacked"
-DNC hires Crowdstrike
-Crowdstrike sees it was an inside leak, not a hack
-creates Russian templates/fingerprints to mimic a hack
-Fusion GPS sets up meeting with their Russian lawyer and Trump Jr
-DNC denies FBI/CIA/DHS access to servers to hide Crowdstrike "hack" manipulation
-FBI forced to use Crowdstrike report
-Russia blamed for hack
-Trump accused of colluding with Russia
-Trump Jr meeting used as proof of collusion
-Trump winning fucks up everything
-now all of the surveillance/unmasking/dissemination that was supposed to be swept under the rug after Hillary won is out in the open
-everyone involved from Lynch, Rice, Wasserman Schultz, Comey, Podesta, Mook, etc trying to cover their own ass

My theory is being tested as we speak. The focus of both intelligence committees has shifted after the testimony by Browder linking Fusion GPS directly to Russian agents. Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson testimony will further test my theory.

[TSA]

You would be.

Leave. I am not a gambler, sorry.

So be it.

I still look forward to embarrassing you.

[djohn2oo8]

893177498003021825

[TSA]

-Obama administration was trying to help Clinton secure the Presidency
-plan was to get dirt on Trump through intelligence agencies
-Obama loosened rules for unmasking to make dissemination easier
-first attempt for FISA warrant denied
-second attempt using Dem paid for Fusion GPS unverified dossier successful
-Trump team now under surveillance
-ability to monitor and leak to press as needed
-DNC "hacked"
-DNC hires Crowdstrike
-Crowdstrike sees it was an inside leak, not a hack
-creates Russian templates/fingerprints to mimic a hack
-Fusion GPS sets up meeting with their Russian lawyer and Trump Jr
-DNC denies FBI/CIA/DHS access to servers to hide Crowdstrike "hack" manipulation
-FBI forced to use Crowdstrike report
-Russia blamed for hack
-Trump accused of colluding with Russia
-Trump Jr meeting used as proof of collusion
-Trump winning fucks up everything
-now all of the surveillance/unmasking/dissemination that was supposed to be swept under the rug after Hillary won is out in the open
-everyone involved from Lynch, Rice, Wasserman Schultz, Comey, Podesta, Mook, etc trying to cover their own ass

My theory is being tested as we speak. The focus of both intelligence committees has shifted after the testimony by Browder linking Fusion GPS directly to Russian agents. Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson testimony will further test my theory.

This is in somewhat of a chronological order

[TSA]

893177498003021825

Brilliant idea. Let's jump start a nuclear arms race.

[RandomGuy]

How about you start with ANY evidence he's been compromised.


Circumstantial evidence is evidence that relies on an inference to connect it to a conclusion of fact—like a fingerprint at the scene of a crime. By contrast, direct evidence supports the truth of an assertion directly—i.e., without need for any additional evidence or inference.

On its own, circumstantial evidence allows for more than one explanation. Different pieces of circumstantial evidence may be required, so that each corroborates the conclusions drawn from the others. Together, they may more strongly support one particular inference over another. An explanation involving circumstantial evidence becomes more likely once alternative explanations have been ruled out[citation needed].

Circumstantial evidence allows a trier of fact to infer that a fact exists.[1] In criminal law, the inference is made by the trier of fact in order to support the truth of an assertion (of guilt or absence of guilt).

Testimony can be direct evidence or it can be circumstantial. For instance, a witness saying that she saw a defendant stab a victim is providing direct evidence. By contrast, a witness who says that she saw the defendant enter a house, that she heard screaming, and that she saw the defendant leave with a bloody knife gives circumstantial evidence. It is the necessity for inference, and not the obviousness of a conclusion, that determines whether evidence is circumstantial.

SEE FACTS BELOW:


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Your move, Putin'spet.


But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest shit possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.

The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

Fact 6:
Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.

Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.

He may be stupid enough to fire Mueller if Mueller starts asking questions that will expose how he has been compromised.

If he does so, he will be impeached. The Republican party will have almost no choice at that point. Congress will find their spine, because they want to be re-elected, and Trump will have gone too far for all but the most jaded hacks.

"Trump warns of 'dangerous low' in Russia relations"

See Fact #3

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/03/politics/russia-us-trump-putin-sanctions/

I find the use of the term "dangerous" to be somewhat telling.

He has repeatedly shown the only thing he is ever genuinely concerned about is himself.

At some point, if the Russians do have compromising material, they might decide to release it. From Trump's selfish perspective, bad relations would vastly increase the danger of that material being made public.

One also has to wonder that after Trump is no longer useful to Russia, when that material will find its way into the light of day.

Once Trump is no longer useful to Putin, then it would be in Russia's interests to release it, since the ensuing scandal would presumably damage US democracy, a chief Russian aim.

If the material were personal in nature, i.e. tapes with prostitutes, it would be pretty easy for them to release it at no cost to themselves.

If the material implicated Russians, such as money laundering that would less likely to be released, unless of course the Russian involved were already disgraced or removed from power.

[Pavlov]

-Obama administration was trying to help Clinton secure the Presidency
-plan was to get dirt on Trump through intelligence agencies
-Obama loosened rules for unmasking to make dissemination easier
-first attempt for FISA warrant denied
-second attempt using Dem paid for Fusion GPS unverified dossier successful
-Trump team now under surveillance
-ability to monitor and leak to press as needed
-DNC "hacked"
-DNC hires Crowdstrike
-Crowdstrike sees it was an inside leak, not a hack
-creates Russian templates/fingerprints to mimic a hack
-Fusion GPS sets up meeting with their Russian lawyer and Trump Jr
-DNC denies FBI/CIA/DHS access to servers to hide Crowdstrike "hack" manipulation
-FBI forced to use Crowdstrike report
-Russia blamed for hack
-Trump accused of colluding with Russia
-Trump Jr meeting used as proof of collusion
-Trump winning fucks up everything
-now all of the surveillance/unmasking/dissemination that was supposed to be swept under the rug after Hillary won is out in the open
-everyone involved from Lynch, Rice, Wasserman Schultz, Comey, Podesta, Mook, etc trying to cover their own ass

My theory is being tested as we speak. The focus of both intelligence committees has shifted after the testimony by Browder linking Fusion GPS directly to Russian agents. Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson testimony will further test my theory.I can see why you wanted pre-approval.

Who are you saying the FISA targets were in the warrant applications of June and October 2016?

[RandomGuy]

So be it.

I still look forward to embarrassing you.

How exactly would you go about doing that?

Asking for evidence of Trump campaign people looking to collude with the Russian government? :lmao

[Pavlov]

-Trump accused of colluding with Russia
-Trump Jr meeting used as proof of collusion
-Trump winning fucks up everythingThat timeline is way off.

[RandomGuy]

-Obama administration was trying to help Clinton secure the Presidency
-plan was to get dirt on Trump through intelligence agencies.

Please provide evidence of this plan.

You have stated something as fact.

Or is this your operating theory?

[RandomGuy]

This is in somewhat of a chronological order

Except for the relaxing of unmasking rules was done in 2011 and 2013. Unless you refer to something more specific.

[Pavlov]

And seriously, IMO its silly to think Obama had to order everyone to investigate the Trump-Russia connection when Uday was setting up secret meetings with Russian government agents in early June. If the Trumps have nothing to hide, they have spent an inordinate amount of time and effort and political capital trying to hide nothing.

[boutons_deux]

:cry losing his friends

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Dickless obese wimpy whiner

[Pavlov]

And General McMaster is so terrified of Susan Rice and her dangerous unmasking and leaking that he continues to give her free access to NSA information.


Almost one month after it was disclosed that former President Obama's National Security Adviser Susan Rice was unmasking members of President Trump’s team and other Americans, Trump’s own national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, sent an official letter giving her unfettered and continuing access to classified information and waiving her “need-to-know” requirement on anything she viewed or received during her tenure, Circa has confirmed.https://www.circa.com/story/2017/08/03/politics/susan-rice-keeps-top-secret-security-clearance-hr-mcmaster-letter-says

[RandomGuy]

That timeline is way off.

Jesus, I tried to help by putting the thing into MS Word, and doing a good faith effort to sift "hypothesis" from proven facts, and it was a total hash.

There is more than one "theory" here, and the entire thing is a jumble. A good brainstorming first draft, but at least an effort to shape something out.

[RandomGuy]

Dem paid for Fusion GPS unverified dossier

Please provide proof that Democratic party paid for dossier.

A canceled check would be ideal. Verifiable statements or admissions that the dossier was paid for by people in the position to know about it, would also be acceptable.

[TSA]

Jesus, I tried to help by putting the thing into MS Word, and doing a good faith effort to sift "hypothesis" from proven facts, and it was a total hash.

There is more than one "theory" here, and the entire thing is a jumble. A good brainstorming first draft, but at least an effort to shape something out.

It's not a timeline. And you asked for my theory so of course there are hypothesis in there.

[TSA]

Please provide proof that Democratic party paid for dossier.

A canceled check would be ideal. Verifiable statements or admissions that the dossier was paid for by people in the position to know about it, would also be acceptable.

I never said the Democratic party paid for it.

[TSA]

And seriously, IMO its silly to think Obama had to order everyone to investigate the Trump-Russia connection when Uday was setting up secret meetings with Russian government agents in early June. If the Trumps have nothing to hide, they have spent an inordinate amount of time and effort and political capital trying to hide nothing.
Uday was setting up meetings or Fusion GPS was setting up meetings?

[TSA]

I can see why you wanted pre-approval.

Who are you saying the FISA targets were in the warrant applications of June and October 2016?

Been a while since I read it but believe it was Manafort

[Pavlov]

Jesus, I tried to help by putting the thing into MS Word, and doing a good faith effort to sift "hypothesis" from proven facts, and it was a total hash.

There is more than one "theory" here, and the entire thing is a jumble. A good brainstorming first draft, but at least an effort to shape something out.Yeah, I was half expecting him to put nanothermite in there somewhere.

Given what we already know about Trump and his associates' ties to Russia, and assuming that the intel agencies of the US and its allies know way more about them, IMO it's a ridiculous stretch to think that it was all a bad faith exercise by Obama. This is the guy who later refrained from dropping the mother of all bombshells on the election with all the information he did have because Senator Turtlehead didn't wanna.

It simply doesn't make sense.

TSA's job is to make that make sense.

Good luck to him.

[TSA]

Grand Jury empaneled.

It's Mueller time RG!

[Pavlov]

Uday was setting up meetings or Fusion GPS was setting up meetings?Uday.

I don't see how you deluded yourself into thinking the Russians were working for Fusion GPS and not the other way around. Given the email chain and the Russian contacts used as go-betweens, Fusion GPS wasn't needed for this operation at all.

You need to show how they were needed in any capacity in this operation, much less the masterminds controlling all the Russians involved.

EDITED TO ADD: and why would the DNC-Fusion Chalupa Great Satan just sit on all that information? They had the brain trust, such as it was, of the Trump campaign opening colluding with the Russians and did absolutely nothing with it. You need to credibly explain how you think they flat out murdered one of their own but didn't even try to expose this meeting you say they set up.

[Pavlov]

Grand Jury empaneled.

It's Mueller time RG!TSA scouring 4chan to generate a list of Democrats Mueller is going to indict.

[Reck]

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Shitting pants time.

893198505451417600

[boutons_deux]

Grand Jury empaneled.

It's Mueller time RG!

Apparently only for the election shenaniganS

I expect at least one more GJ for the financial/tax crimes

Btw, Pres can only pardon Federal criminals, not state criminals, and pardons can come only after actual convictions

[Pavlov]

Apparently only for the election shenaniganS

I expect at least one more GJ for the financial/tax crimes

Btw, Pres can only pardon Federal criminals, not state criminals, and pardons can come only after actual convictionsHow did Nixon get pardoned then?

[RandomGuy]

Grand Jury empaneled.

It's Mueller time RG!


You mean the one looking into Flynn?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/mueller-michael-flynn-turkey/529011/

[boutons_deux]

You mean the one looking into Flynn?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/mueller-michael-flynn-turkey/529011/

NO another one today

FLYNN + TURKEY GJ

TRASH + RUSSIA GJ, WHICH COULD INCLUDE FLYNN

[Pavlov]

Any snarky Trump apologist asking "Where are the indictments, it's been X days/weeks/months?" can ruminate on these statistics from Kenny Starr:


The independent counsel investigation lasted eight years, generated more than 3,000 grand jury subpoenas, collected more than 10 million pages of documents and cost more than $70 million (unadjusted for inflation)

http://bangordailynews.com/2016/07/12/opinion/contributors/whitewater-was-no-close-call-for-prosecutors/

for an indictment over a blowjob.

I'm all for the equal application of justice for President Trump.

[Reck]

BUT WAIT...THERE'S MORE!
893204347433226240

:lmao

[TSA]

Uday.

I don't see how you deluded yourself into thinking the Russians were working for Fusion GPS and not the other way around. Given the email chain and the Russian contacts used as go-betweens, Fusion GPS wasn't needed for this operation at all.

You need to show how they were needed in any capacity in this operation, much less the masterminds controlling all the Russians involved.

EDITED TO ADD: and why would the DNC-Fusion Chalupa Great Satan just sit on all that information? They had the brain trust, such as it was, of the Trump campaign opening colluding with the Russians and did absolutely nothing with it. You need to credibly explain how you think they flat out murdered one of their own but didn't even try to expose this meeting you say they set up.

I never said the Russians were working for Fusion GPS, not sure where you got that from.

There was nothing illegal about the meeting and it was of no value to them until after Hillary lost. At the time they had that information the DNC was actively colluding with the Ukranian government and did not need that getting out to the public. What we are seeing now are attempts to distract from the real collusion.

^^^

all theory of course so don't whine again about me stating these as fact

[Pavlov]

BUT WAIT...THERE'S MORE!
893204347433226240

:lmao
FUSION GPS IS GOING DOWN! itshappening.gif

[spurraider21]

How did Nixon get pardoned then?
booboo is "special"

[spurraider21]

the subpoenas related to the trump jr meeting are obviously a way to nail susan rice to the wall, tbh

[TSA]

BUT WAIT...THERE'S MORE!
893204347433226240

:lmao
excellent news

[boutons_deux]

booboo is "special"

VERY special, and dont u forget it, unspecial

[boutons_deux]

Lock Him Up: Robert Mueller Is Exploring Prosecuting Trump’s Financial Crimes With Russia

Special Counsel Robert Mueller is following the money, and where it is leading him is to a potential prosecution of Trump for financial crimes with Russia

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/03/trump-freaking-robert-mueller

[Pavlov]

I never said the Russians were working for Fusion GPS, not sure where you got that from.You have Fusion GPS directing all the Russians involved.


There was nothing illegal about the meeting and it was of no value to them until after Hillary lost.Sure thing, Pollyanna. That's why the Trumps are still lying about it to this day. Dropping that information before the election would have sunk the campaign and you know it.


At the time they had that information the DNC was actively colluding with the Ukranian government and did not need that getting out to the public.:lol REMEMBER REMEMBER CHALUPA UKRAINE. So Chalupa's briefs would sink the Clinton campaign but Team Trump's meeting with Russian agents wouldn't do anything to his chances.

That's completely disingenuous, TSA.



What we are seeing now are attempts to distract from the real collusion.

^^^

all theory of course so don't whine again about me stating these as factAs a theory, it sucks.

We're not talking about proving cases in courts of law, were talking about telling stories to people watching tv and reading facebook in swing counties. Trump's approval ratings are in the shitter in no small part due to the Russia issue, and to pretend dropping the Uday meeting before the election would do nothing is ridiculous.

[Reck]

excellent news

Agreed. Obama and Susan are finished.

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, I was half expecting him to put nanothermite in there somewhere.

Given what we already know about Trump and his associates' ties to Russia, and assuming that the intel agencies of the US and its allies know way more about them, IMO it's a ridiculous stretch to think that it was all a bad faith exercise by Obama. This is the guy who later refrained from dropping the mother of all bombshells on the election with all the information he did have because Senator Turtlehead didn't wanna.

It simply doesn't make sense.

TSA's job is to make that make sense.

Good luck to him.

The other thing that I think is throwing him into a tizzy is that there was more than "Guccifer" rooting around in the system. Long before that event, the FBI was attempting to tell the DNC that there was some intrusion into their network. This was well before the Crowdstrike report.

He seems to be under the impression that this was the only thing that happened to the DNC.

There was much more than one copy pasta attempt:
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a49902/the-russian-emigre-leading-the-fight-to-protect-america/


A CrowdStrike security expert had sent the DNC a proprietary software package, called Falcon, that monitors the networks of its clients in real time. Falcon "lit up," the email said, within ten seconds of being installed at the DNC: Russia was in the network.


The analyst said there was no doubt. Falcon had detected malicious software, or malware, that was stealing data and sending it to the same servers that had been used in a 2015 attack on the German Bundestag. The code and techniques used against the DNC resembled those from earlier attacks on the White House and the State Department. The analyst, a former intelligence officer, told Alperovitch that Falcon had identified not one but two Russian intruders: Cozy Bear, a group CrowdStrike's experts believed was affiliated with the FSB, Russia's answer to the CIA; and Fancy Bear, which they had linked to the GRU, Russian military intelligence


The day after the media maelstrom, the reporters were back with less friendly questions: Had Alperovitch gotten his facts right? Was he certain Russia was behind the DNC hacks? The doubts were prompted by the appearance of a blogger claiming to be from Eastern Europe who called himself Guccifer 2.0. Guccifer said that the breach was his, not Russia's. "DNC'S servers hacked by a lone hacker," he wrote in a blog post that included stolen files from the DNC. "I guess CrowdStrike customers should think twice about company's competence," Guccifer wrote. "Fuck CrowdStrike!!!!!!!!!"

[Pavlov]

Agreed. Obama and Susan are finished.:lol TSA didn't comment on that traitor McMaster, did he?

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, I was half expecting him to put nanothermite in there somewhere.

Given what we already know about Trump and his associates' ties to Russia, and assuming that the intel agencies of the US and its allies know way more about them, IMO it's a ridiculous stretch to think that it was all a bad faith exercise by Obama. This is the guy who later refrained from dropping the mother of all bombshells on the election with all the information he did have because Senator Turtlehead didn't wanna.

It simply doesn't make sense.

TSA's job is to make that make sense.

Good luck to him.


Two weeks later, files from the DCCC began to appear on Guccifer 2.0's website. This time he released information about Democratic congressional candidates who were running close races in Florida, Ohio, Illinois, and Pennsylvania. On August 12, he went further, publishing a spreadsheet that included the personal email addresses and phone numbers of nearly two hundred Democratic members of Congress.

He would also have to work hard to explain why an entity working for Democrats would release personal email addresses and phone numbers of Democratic party leaders, i.e. Democratic members of Congress.

That evidence does not appear consistent with his theory.

[spurraider21]

VERY special, and dont u forget it, unspecial
you're the most tremendously special person on this forum

[TSA]

The other thing that I think is throwing him into a tizzy is that there was more than "Guccifer" rooting around in the system. Long before that event, the FBI was attempting to tell the DNC that there was some intrusion into their network. This was well before the Crowdstrike report.

He seems to be under the impression that this was the only thing that happened to the DNC.

There was much more than one copy pasta attempt:
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a49902/the-russian-emigre-leading-the-fight-to-protect-america/

I stated time and time again guccifer 2.0 wasn't the only one in the DNC system. You were late to the "hacking" thread so I understand your ignorance, but don't try and put words in my mouth.

[DarrinS]

They got him now!

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-15-2015/49jedv.gif

[boutons_deux]

you're the most tremendously special person on this forum

R E S P E K

[Pavlov]

Been a while since I read it but believe it was ManafortThe only person I can find with a confirmed warrant was Carter Page.

If you have info on others, by all means post it.

[Pavlov]

R E S P E KSo how was Nixon pardoned when he wasn't convicted of any crimes?

[RandomGuy]

Grand Jury empaneled.

It's Mueller time RG!


Grand jury subpoenas have been issued in connection with a June 2016 meeting that included President Donald Trump's son, his son-in-law and a Russian lawyer, two sources familiar with the matter told Reuters on Thursday.

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

I stated time and time again guccifer 2.0 wasn't the only one in the DNC system. You were late to the "hacking" thread so I understand your ignorance, but don't try and put words in my mouth.

Be happy to not do that. I would strongly prefer not to. All I saw was you going on and on about it.

....so who else was in the DNC's systems?

[TSA]

Be happy to not do that. I would strongly prefer not to. All I saw was you going on and on about it.

....so who else was in the DNC's systems?I have no idea who else was in the system, but I'm sure there were state actors from multiple countries.

[Reck]

They got him now!

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-15-2015/49jedv.gif

Darrins pre election: Trump is disgusting, I dont like him, he's a POS.

Darrrins post election: I enjoy Trump's cock in my mouth. I gargle his cum every morning and before I go to sleep. This Russia thing is fake and I bathe in pee.

[TSA]

:lmao

I already said I think this is excellent. Which company worked with the Russian lawyer and do you think any questions about the connection will come up in questioning?

[RandomGuy]

the meeting ...[B] was of no value to them until after Hillary lost.

https://media.tenor.com/images/28a25a47b58c0ea36d429eba5b5f28e5/tenor.gif

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https://media.tenor.com/images/19c0ad44488b3c5ad05d3f73432558c1/tenor.gif


In your world, evidence of a major presidential campaign meeting with a hostile foreign power to get dirt on their opponent is useless.

https://media.tenor.com/images/dcdb4bef5a422d4efb44577b6c33874a/tenor.gif
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[RandomGuy]

I have no idea who else was in the system, but I'm sure there were state actors from multiple countries.

Is there any evidence indicating which country?

[DarrinS]

Darrins pre election: Trump is disgusting, I dont like him, he's a POS.

Darrrins post election: I enjoy Trump's cock in my mouth. I gargle his cum every morning and before I go to sleep. This Russia thing is fake and I bathe in pee.


Gross, dude

[RandomGuy]

to pretend dropping the Uday meeting before the election would do nothing is ridiculous.

oh yes, it will be ridiculed.

https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/haha-gif-gif.46073/


Setting Ridiculometers to LUDICRIS SPEED.

http://i.gyazo.com/7a040d5343f6c71ad5e431b1c10efcfc.gif

[boutons_deux]

Susan Rice didn’t do anything wrong, Trump administration finds: report

Barack Obama's former national security adviser, vilified by conservative media, didn't do anything wrong

A new report reveals that President Donald Trump’s national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, does not believe that his predecessor, Susan Rice, did anything wrong in unmasking the identities of Trump transition officials.

“National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster has concluded that Rice did nothing wrong, according to two U.S. intelligence officials who spoke to me on condition of anonymity,” wrote Eli Lake of Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-03/you-can-thank-leakers-for-new-russia-sanctions).

“That might explain why Trump has yet to declassify more information on the prior administration’s unmasking requests.”

http://www.salon.com/2017/08/03/susan-rice-didnt-do-anything-wrong-trump-administration-finds-report/

[RandomGuy]

Gross, dude

Do you think that evidence of a major presidential campaign meeting with a hostile foreign power to get dirt on their opponent would be useless to the other political party?

[Pavlov]

I already said I think this is excellent. Which company worked with the Russian lawyer and do you think any questions about the connection will come up in questioning?Given that no one ever outside of message boards presented Fusion GPS as directly involved in Uday's meeting in any way, what do you think everyone outside of message boards has been hiding?

[TSA]

Given that no one ever outside of message boards presented Fusion GPS as directly involved in Uday's meeting in any way, what do you think everyone outside of message boards has been hiding?

Since you want to jump in on the question try actually answering it.

[TSA]

Is there any evidence indicating which country?

I have seen no evidence from any company but Crowdstrike

[RandomGuy]

I have seen no evidence from any company but Crowdstrike

Do you have evidence that Crowdstrike was wrong in their assessment?

[RandomGuy]

Since you want to jump in on the question try actually answering it.

Your theory, your burden of proof.

[TSA]

Do you have evidence that Crowdstrike was wrong in their assessment?

There were quite a few articles I posted from industry leaders in cyber security that said their assessment had many holes in it and it was not a convincing attribution.

[RandomGuy]

I already said I think this is excellent. Which company worked with the Russian lawyer and do you think any questions about the connection will come up in questioning?

That wouldn't seem to be where one would start an investigation, were one seeking to uncover what you think happened.

[TSA]

Your theory, your burden of proof.

I didn't make a claim I asked you a question you either didn't see or dodged.

"Which company worked with the Russian lawyer and do you think any questions about the connection will come up in questioning?"

[spurraider21]

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for what? the unmasking stuff isn't going to lead to anything. there are a number of ways to justify unmasking... such as to provide context for what the foreign agent is talking about i.e. if the foreign agent says "ok get the job done" it matters a lot if he's talking to a diplomat or a mechanic

if an ambassador/diplomat/foreign minister has having conversations it's reasonable that the context of who they were talking to is pertinent if it involves somebody on a transition team, or a national security figure, etc

of course amidst all the investigation going on in washington, the only issue fox news cares to discuss relating to any of it is the "massive unmasking scandal" which is going to be a non-story. dont get me wrong, i'm sure no matter what happens at the hearings, no matter who says what, there will be people claiming that susan rice's testimony was a bombshell proving political sabotage, politically motivated surveillance, etc. none of it will be legally significant though, in all likelihood.

the leaking of the information is a different story (if they're actually able to crack down and find out who's doing what), but the unmasking itself? i'm not expecting much. if im wrong, i'll bump this myself and acknowledge it

[RandomGuy]

There were quite a few articles I posted from industry leaders in cyber security that said their assessment had many holes in it and it was not a convincing attribution.

No, actually you didn't.

So you don't have evidence they were mistaken. They said Russia.

If they were mistaken the intelligence community, now led by Trump, would know about it.

Does Trump not want this information to get out?

[RandomGuy]

I didn't make a claim I asked you a question you either didn't see or dodged.

"Which company worked with the Russian lawyer and do you think any questions about the connection will come up in questioning?"

Oh, that question you asked in order to dodge answering my question?



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[Pavlov]

Since you want to jump in on the question try actually answering it.https://media.tenor.com/images/f0578cf9e89cfce724255d5ab10df86f/tenor.gif

I don't think they are hiding anything. I think the Russian government was perfectly able to carry out the contact and the meeting without Fusion GPS. You need to explain why you think they weren't.

I'll wait for your explanation.

[TSA]

No, actually you didn't.

So you don't have evidence they were mistaken. They said Russia.

If they were mistaken the intelligence community, now led by Trump, would know about it.

Does Trump not want this information to get out?

Yes, actually I did.

[RandomGuy]

893225000450371585

Pretty much.

The general, non-partisan analysis I read indicated as much.

Good to see that it was confirmed by someone with some integrity though.

[Pavlov]

I didn't make a claim I asked you a question you either didn't see or dodged.

"Which company worked with the Russian lawyer and do you think any questions about the connection will come up in questioning?"Again, just say what your theory is. What is the matter with you?

[djohn2oo8]

http://www.stonerdays.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/arnold-stoned.gif

[TSA]

Oh, that question you asked in order to dodge answering my question?



https://mlpforums.com/uploads/post_images/sig-4173993.Ka0AKTE.png

You're doing it again. You get all worked up and post too fast and accuse me of dodging questions. Start at the top of the page and slow down.

[spurraider21]

Pretty much.

The general, non-partisan analysis I read indicated as much.

Good to see that it was confirmed by someone with some integrity though.
https://i.gyazo.com/f3ed69905d9a6dfb85e4bf0fdc7b5c5c.png

[Pavlov]

https://i.gyazo.com/f3ed69905d9a6dfb85e4bf0fdc7b5c5c.pngThey are obviously just letting her incriminate herself further since it was already an open and shut case, right?

[TSA]

Again, just say what your theory is. What is the matter with you?

This isn't about a theory.

I'm simply asking if you or RG think the connection of Dems/Fusion GPS/Russian Lawyer will come up in questioning. Do you?

[RandomGuy]

This isn't about a theory.

I'm simply asking if you or RG think the connection of Dems/Fusion GPS/Russian Lawyer will come up in questioning. Do you?

No clue. No clue at all.

[Pavlov]

This isn't about a theory.

I'm simply asking if you or RG think the connection of Dems/Fusion GPS/Russian Lawyer will come up in questioning. Do you?If it has nothing to do with your theory, there is no reason to ask this question.

We're discussing your theory. Not playing a leading questions game.

[TSA]

https://i.gyazo.com/f3ed69905d9a6dfb85e4bf0fdc7b5c5c.png

Samantha Powers, not Rice.

[RandomGuy]

While Mueller’s team has largely avoided leaks, it’s believed that his work will stretch well into 2018 if not later. But a grand jury meeting in Washington would add to the carnival atmosphere that already prevails around this White House. Proceeding would attract stakeouts as the press tried to determine who was testifying, as happened during the investigation into who in the Bush administration leaked the name of CIA official Valerie Plame. Nearly 20 years ago, in August 1998, Bill Clinton became the first and only sitting president to testify before a grand jury. He was ultimately impeached for lying to that grand jury.

I guess we may get to see Trump having to testify at some point.

Especially since he wrote Uday's statmenent.

http://s.quickmeme.com/img/78/789a9aaf5a71e4f8fc4d362dda1d2c4765da19f30fdaab50df 63aeb1377ededc.jpg

[Pavlov]

I guess we may get to see Trump having to testify at some point.

Especially since he wrote Uday's statmene.tI don't see how he can avoid it at this point.

[TSA]

If it has nothing to do with your theory, there is no reason to ask this question.

We're discussing your theory. Not playing a leading questions game.

Actually we are discussing the news of a grand jury, and my question has to do with the grand jury being empaneled and the meeting that took place.

I don't care if you want to dodge it again I will wait for RG to answer.

[TSA]

No clue. No clue at all.

I appreciate you at least answering.

[spurraider21]

Samantha Powers, not Rice.
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

While Susan Rice is defending as routine her requests for the identities of Americans caught up in surveillance of foreign targets, others who’ve served in the intelligence community and at high levels of government say the former national security adviser's requests were quite unusual.

“From my direct experience dealing at this level, that is never done,” retired U.S. Army Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer told Fox News. Shaffer has experience in intelligence operations focused on foreign actors in which U.S. citizens’ involvement could surface.

“The national security adviser person is a manager position, not an analyst position,” he said. “You have analysts in the intelligence community whose job is to sort through who is doing what with what. Susan Rice is a senior manager looking over the entire intelligence community. She should not have time to be unmasking individuals having conversations. It’s insane. It’s never done.”

Ex-CIA analyst Fred Fleitz agreed in a Fox News op-ed.

“Rice’s denials don’t add up,” Fleitz wrote. “It is hard to fathom how the demasking of multiple Trump campaign and transition officials was not politically motivated.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/05/susan-rices-alleged-unmasking-requests-not-so-routine-ex-officials-say.html


It just keeps getting worse for the Obama admin. The same FISA warrant Susan Rice was using to unmask US persons and disseminate throughout the White House was based on a dossier paid for by Trump opposition and compiled by a guy who was never in Russia to actually gather and verify intel :rollin


Every accused Trump team member willing to testify
Susan Rice declines to testify
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/politics/susan-rice-refuses-graham-russia-hearing/

Susan Rice subpoenaed before any Trump member :rollin


It's really too bad Susan Rice declined to testify there have been quite a few questions on unmasking Clapper and Yates have no problem answering. What is Rice hiding from.


Susan Rice needs to be subpoenaed asap. Get this party started.


The only person who could have done damage was Susan Rice and she declined to testify because the damage done wouldn't be in her favor.


This thread will go down in Spurstalk history as the political forums GOAT when the only person indicted is Susan Rice


The only people that have declined to testify have been Susan Rice and James Comey. Think about it.


uh oh Susan Rice

compliance problems and minimization not being followed by the NSA and FBI

https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-19-2015/D8sxR1.gif

[TSA]

While Mueller’s team has largely avoided leaks, it’s believed that his work will stretch well into 2018 if not later.

Called this long ago....they are trying to stretch this out for the rest of his term, only to have the grand jury no bill it at the end.

[Pavlov]

Actually we are discussing the news of a grand jury, and my question has to do with the grand jury being empaneled and the meeting that took place.

I don't care if you want to dodge it again I will wait for RG to answer.It all has to do with your theory that Fusion GPS set up the meeting. You have yet to explain why the Russians needed them.

I'm waiting.

[SnakeBoy]

Is it me or are all of the liberals that always complain about memes posting a shit load of memes in this thread?

[TSA]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao


















https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-19-2015/D8sxR1.gif
Impressed at the quick turn around time on your post. :tu

[Reck]

Susan Rice didn’t do anything wrong, Trump administration finds: report

Barack Obama's former national security adviser, vilified by conservative media, didn't do anything wrong

A new report reveals that President Donald Trump’s national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, does not believe that his predecessor, Susan Rice, did anything wrong in unmasking the identities of Trump transition officials.

“National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster has concluded that Rice did nothing wrong, according to two U.S. intelligence officials who spoke to me on condition of anonymity,” wrote Eli Lake of Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-03/you-can-thank-leakers-for-new-russia-sanctions).

“That might explain why Trump has yet to declassify more information on the prior administration’s unmasking requests.”

http://www.salon.com/2017/08/03/susan-rice-didnt-do-anything-wrong-trump-administration-finds-report/
TSA

Dont have a mini stroke or anything. :lol

[spurraider21]

Is it me or are all of the liberals that always complain about memes posting a shit load of memes in this thread?
i "complain" when people use memes as fact... like a picture of trump with a caption "he erased the deficit!" and then using that meme as a source of argument

its basically just Chris and Thread that do that, though

[TSA]

It all has to do with your theory that Fusion GPS set up the meeting. You have yet to explain why the Russians needed them.

I'm waiting.

You'll be waiting a while. RG already answered the question I asked of him.

[RandomGuy]

I don't see how he can avoid it at this point.

Neither do I.

The obstruction of justice case is probably going to be the thing that ultimately sinks him, and given that I have seen rumors that more than a few of them are starting to think Trump is somehow mentally deficient, i.e. dementia, I am not sure they are going to risk their necks in any impeachment vote. Some of the speculation is that Trump is removing his senior staff at the cabinet level because he is paranoid of them triggering the 25th.

Muellers work will continue well into the next election cycle for midterms. Everything is shaping up to be a total disaster for the GOP, and if they lose the house, Trump will be removed, one way or the other.

5th or 25th.

[Blake]

I didn't make a claim I asked you a question you either didn't see or dodged.

"Which company worked with the Russian lawyer and do you think any questions about the connection will come up in questioning?"

Ah there's the pepperoni round in circles bit I've been waiting for

[spurraider21]

Impressed at the quick turn around time on your post. :tu
it's funny how awestruck you get when somebody knows how to use the ST search function. it's like a baby when you jingle keys in front of them

[RandomGuy]

Is it me or are all of the liberals that always complain about memes posting a shit load of memes in this thread?

Do you think that evidence of a major presidential campaign meeting with a hostile foreign power to get dirt on their opponent would be useless to the other political party?

[Reck]

Called this long ago....they are trying to stretch this out for the rest of his term, only to have the grand jury no bill it at the end.

LOL you didn't call shit. Like usual, you make a stupid claim and then a few weeks go by and then it blows up in your face.

I honestly dont know how you still come in here posting after all this backfiring on your part. You're shameless.

[Chris]

893225000450371585

:cry dindunuffin :cry

[TSA]

it's funny how awestruck you get when somebody knows how to use the ST search function. it's like a baby when you jingle keys in front of them

what's funny is that people go through the trouble of copy pasting all the quotes

[TSA]

LOL you didn't call shit. Like usual, you make a stupid claim and then a few weeks go by and then it blows up in your face.

I honestly dont know how you still come in here posting after all this backfiring on your part. You're shameless.

:lmao shameless
:lmao convicted welcher
:lmao the fucking irony

[Pavlov]

Called this long ago....they are trying to stretch this out for the rest of his term, only to have the grand jury no bill it at the end.:lol how long do you think these things are supposed to take?

Fiske/Starr: January 1994 - September 1998

Walsh: December 1986 - August 1993

Hell, the Mike Espy investigation took seven years.

And this no-bill prediction is more hilarious conspiracy talk.

[Chris]

i "complain" when people use memes as fact... like a picture of trump with a caption "he erased the deficit!" and then using that meme as a source of argument

its basically just Chris and Thread that do that, though

:cry

[Reck]

BTW TSA whatever happened to that guy who was going to testify about the dossier? You said something about next week the dems will fall. :lol


It's falling apart already. Browder's testimony next week will get the ball rolling.

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/complaint-firm-behind-dossier-former-russian-intel-officer-joined-lobbying-effort#_ftnref14

:lmao

[Pavlov]

You'll be waiting a while. RG already answered the question I asked of him.Relax, anyone can see you can't explain how Fusion GPS was needed by the Russians to set up the Uday meeting, so don't get all internets tough guy about your leading questions.

[spurraider21]

what's funny is that people go through the trouble of copy pasting all the quotes
have you ever wondered what the button just to the right of "reply with quote" does?

[baseline bum]

Neither do I.

The obstruction of justice case is probably going to be the thing that ultimately sinks him, and given that I have seen rumors that more than a few of them are starting to think Trump is somehow mentally deficient, i.e. dementia, I am not sure they are going to risk their necks in any impeachment vote. Some of the speculation is that Trump is removing his senior staff at the cabinet level because he is paranoid of them triggering the 25th.

Muellers work will continue well into the next election cycle for midterms. Everything is shaping up to be a total disaster for the GOP, and if they lose the house, Trump will be removed, one way or the other.

5th or 25th.

The house can't remove Trump.

[Reck]

:lmao shameless
:lmao convicted welcher
:lmao the fucking irony

Djonh took your soul. You still post here.

You have been outed multiple times..by multiple posters and you still post here like nothing.

You're a faggot.

:cry I'm about to be a father
:cry: but will devote a 24 hour watch on ST/CNN/All other conspiracies
:lol ST's toilet

[RandomGuy]

Is it me or are all of the liberals that always complain about memes posting a shit load of memes in this thread?

And for the record, I love memes.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/3c/3c393b7e414533b67a3fbf32a58ba26d13d790646a428d692f 4fe6e8a13dd7d2.jpg

[RandomGuy]

The house can't remove Trump.

(slaps forehead)

Yup. My bad.

[TSA]

Do you think that evidence of a major presidential campaign meeting with a hostile foreign power to get dirt on their opponent would be useless to the other political party?

If said political opponent paid a smear company to set up the meeting I doubt it would be of much use.

[Pavlov]

Impressed at the quick turn around time on your post. :tuI'd say I'm impressed by how thoroughly he ethered you, but you've gotten incredibly sloppy the further down the rabbit hole you've gone.

[TSA]

have you ever wondered what the button just to the right of "reply with quote" does?

:rollin never seen that before

[Pavlov]

If said political opponent paid a smear company to set up the meeting I doubt it would be of much use.You're assuming everyone going to vote would instantly know and care that Fusion GPS was paid to set up a meeting. The right wing media is trying to intimate that angle and no one cares.

You haven't even made a case why they would be needed and you never will.

[TSA]

Djonh took your soul. You still post here.

You have been outed multiple times..by multiple posters and you still post here like nothing.

You're a faggot.

:cry I'm about to be a father
:cry: but will devote a 24 hour watch on ST/CNN/All other conspiracies
:lol ST's toilet

I honored my bet and killed my account when I lost the bet to djohn.

You on the other hand are a fucking welcher and everyone here knows it.

If you need a reminder of your welch I'm sure spurraider21 can find the thread

[Reck]

Is TSA claiming he's never multi quoted here before? Ummm OK. :lmao

[Reck]

If you need a reminder of your welch I'm sure spurraider21 can find the thread

:lol begging for backup.

I never took your faggoty ass seriously. I would have never honor that bet because you're a joke, cuck.

:cry I killed my account..that's why I'm still using one that's the abreviation of the one I lost. :(

[TSA]

:lol begging for backup.

I never took your faggoty ass seriously. I would have never honor that bet because you're a joke, cuck.

:cry I killed my account..that's why I'm still using one that's the abreviation of the one I lost. :(

So you made a bet you were never going to honor?

[TSA]

Is TSA claiming he's never multi quoted here before? Ummm OK. :lmao

I would always just manually type in [quote=name here] I had no idea there was a multi quote function. I happy you find that as funny as you do though.

[Reck]

I would always just manually type in I had no idea there was a multi quote function. I happy you find that as funny as you do though.

I find it funny because you would have to be blind to miss that fat ass quote+ sign in there.

Also not to mention manually putting each name and the consequent numbering that goes along with the coding is just beyond stupid.

So you're either a stupid person who cant figure out shit in front of your face or you really like wasting time doing things manually when the board itself does it for you.

So yeah, I find it fucking funny. :lol

[TSA]

[QUOTE=TSA;9108502]I would always just manually type in

I find it funny because you would have to be blind to miss that fat ass quote+ sign in there.

Also not to mention manually putting each name and the consequent numbering that goes along with the coding is just beyond stupid.

So you're either a stupid person who cant figure out shit in front of your face or you really like wasting time doing things manually when the board itself does it for you.

So yeah, I find it fucking funny. :lol

tries to talk shit on my quoting ability....can't even format a post with quotes correctly.
now that is fucking funny :lol


edited to fix mine....and now I'm just going to leave it because you edited yours :rollin

[Blake]

^quick someone screen shot before the edit

[TSA]

^quick someone screen shot before the edit

Too late for me to go back now, much like that unfortunate time you hit the submit button years ago.

[TSA]

:lol begging for backup.

I never took your faggoty ass seriously. I would have never honor that bet because you're a joke, cuck.

:cry I killed my account..that's why I'm still using one that's the abreviation of the one I lost. :(

So you made a bet you were never going to honor?

[Pavlov]

The only person I can find with a confirmed warrant was Carter Page.

If you have info on others, by all means post it.

Hoo boy, you might not like this, TSA:


Page had been the subject of a secret intelligence surveillance warrant since 2014, earlier than had been previously reported, US officials briefed on the probe told CNN.
When information emerged last summer suggesting that the Russians were attempting to cultivate Page as a way to gain an entrée into the Trump campaign, the FBI renewed its interest in him. Initially, FBI counterintelligence investigators saw the campaign as possible victims being targeted by Russian intelligence.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/03/politics/mueller-investigation-russia-trump-one-year-financial-ties/index.html

Your timeline is off. Fix it.


-Obama administration was trying to help Clinton secure the Presidency
-plan was to get dirt on Trump through intelligence agencies
-Obama loosened rules for unmasking to make dissemination easier
-first attempt for FISA warrant denied
-second attempt using Dem paid for Fusion GPS unverified dossier successful
-Trump team now under surveillance
-ability to monitor and leak to press as needed
-DNC "hacked"
-DNC hires Crowdstrike
-Crowdstrike sees it was an inside leak, not a hack
-creates Russian templates/fingerprints to mimic a hack
-Fusion GPS sets up meeting with their Russian lawyer and Trump Jr
-DNC denies FBI/CIA/DHS access to servers to hide Crowdstrike "hack" manipulation
-FBI forced to use Crowdstrike report
-Russia blamed for hack
-Trump accused of colluding with Russia
-Trump Jr meeting used as proof of collusion
-Trump winning fucks up everything
-now all of the surveillance/unmasking/dissemination that was supposed to be swept under the rug after Hillary won is out in the open
-everyone involved from Lynch, Rice, Wasserman Schultz, Comey, Podesta, Mook, etc trying to cover their own ass

My theory is being tested as we speak. The focus of both intelligence committees has shifted after the testimony by Browder linking Fusion GPS directly to Russian agents. Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson testimony will further test my theory.

[Reck]

tries to talk shit on my quoting ability....can't even format a post with quotes correctly.
now that is fucking funny :lol


edited to fix mine....and now I'm just going to leave it because you edited yours :rollin

Actually I fixed your fuck up.

You inserted this in your body: [quote=name here]

Hence me taking that part of that out of your quote. Go back and read it, you won't find it there.

Also go ahead and quote this post and see what happens. :lol

[Reck]

So you made a bet you were never going to honor?

Why are you asking something I was pretty clear in saying in the beginning? :lol

[TSA]

Why are you asking something I was pretty clear in saying in the beginning? :lol

Just wanted you to admit again to being a dishonorable piece of shit. :bobo

[TSA]

Hoo boy, you might not like this, TSA:



http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/03/politics/mueller-investigation-russia-trump-one-year-financial-ties/index.html

Your timeline is off. Fix it.

That is old news about Page. Read the FBI's determination on their inquiry into Page years ago.

[Reck]

Just wanted you to admit again to being a dishonorable piece of shit. :bobo

I'm not dishonorable. I honor bets with reputable people.

People I respect. I just dont respect you. lol

If you weren't a sniveling coward I would've.

[Pavlov]

That is old news about Page. Read the FBI's determination on their inquiry into Page years ago.Show me the old news on the 2014 warrant. It's not readily showing up in the googles.

[djohn2oo8]

893216619249491968

[djohn2oo8]

893233044945031169
Lordy!

[Chris]

Tapper says more shoes! Next on We Tell You What to Think Network! :tu

[djohn2oo8]

893236346617298944
Lordy!!

[djohn2oo8]

893204388847726592
Lordy!!!

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s White House Just Responded To Special Prosecutor Mueller’s Grand Jury

In a statement (https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/893211867212021762) to the White House press pool, Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said the White House “wasn’t aware that Mr. Mueller had started using a new grand jury” and quoted Ty Cobb, special counsel to the president, saying that “grand jury matters are typically secret.”

“The White House favors anything that accelerates the conclusion of his work fairly,” Cobb claimed. “The White House is committed to fully cooperating with Mr. Mueller.” :lol



Cobb’s assertion contradicts numerous reports that President Trump has mused (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/13/opinion/donald-trump-fire-robert-mueller.html?_r=0)about firing Mueller and publicly stated (http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/trump-to-muller-my-personal-finances-are-a-red-line-1005078083762) that an investigation of his personal finances would be a “red line” that could cost Mueller his job.

Following the contradictory statement, Sanders closed by reiterating the president’s claims that,

“Former FBI Director Jim Comey said three times the President is not under investigation :lol and

we have no reason to believe that has changed.” :lol

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/03/trumps-white-house-just-responded-special-prosecutor-muellers-grand-jury/

[Reck]

Tapper says more shoes! Next on We Tell You What to Think Network! :tu

Meh. It's pretty obvious there are a lot of people in the know in government.

Even McCain knew back a few months when he said more shoes to drop. It's just common sense at this point. Pucker your butthole Chris. Bumpy ride ahead.

[djohn2oo8]

893237610906349569
Lord Almighty

[Chris]

http://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Hillary-Clinton-Orange-Suit-What-Happened-e1501162916169-620x435.jpg

"Ze Rooshans!"

[Pavlov]

http://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Hillary-Clinton-Orange-Suit-What-Happened-e1501162916169-620x435.jpg

"Ze Rooshans!"*ding*

[Chris]

Meh. It's pretty obvious there are a lot of people in the know in government.

Even McCain knew back a few months when he said more shoes to drop. It's just common sense at this point. Pucker your butthole Chris. Bumpy ride ahead.

I can't wait tbh

[Chris]

*ding*

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

893246698557931521

[boutons_deux]

893237610906349569
Lord Almighty

Mercer is or was a big donor to Breitbart, and Mercer's proteges include Bannon, KAC, Stephen Miller

My guess is that C/A, under Mercer's permission, gave their USA demographic data, directly or indirectly (eg through Flynn) to Pootin so his army of hackers could go after specific targets, esp in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio.

[TSA]

Show me the old news on the 2014 warrant. It's not readily showing up in the googles.

http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-russia-spy-and-eric-holder-2017-4

[TSA]

I'm not dishonorable. I honor bets with reputable people.

People I respect. I just dont respect you. lol

If you weren't a sniveling coward I would've.
Reputable people don't take bets they plan on welching on.
You are not reputable nor are you honorable.
Sad.

[Pavlov]

http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-russia-spy-and-eric-holder-2017-4Nope. Nothing about a 2014 secret intel warrant.

[djohn2oo8]

893247087181279232
:lmao

[TSA]

Nope. Nothing about a 2014 secret intel warrant.

The article talks about his meeting with Victor Podobnyy. That's when the FBI was monitoring Page, they found Page insignificant and let it go.

If you have something other instance of him being under FBI surveillance back then post it.

[boutons_deux]

FOX News’ Judge Napolitano Just Admitted Trump Is Royally Screwed

“It’s a sign that Bob Mueller is going at least several steps beyond where Jim Comey went in the investigation of Mrs. Clinton [and her emails],” Napolitano said.

“It is a sign that he has found something, from some source, and that is going to be explained to the grand jury in order to persuade them to vote to issue a subpoena.”

Sensing the gravity of that statement, Cavuto veered to a question about process before coming back to the central question:

how bad is this?

Judge Napolitano did not offer the answer Fox News fans were hoping for.

“It means he has found something, some evidence, of some criminal behavior, which has caused him to want to dig deeper, and the instrument for digging deeper is a subpoena, and only a grand jury can issue a subpoena.”

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/03/fox-news-judge-napolitano-just-admitted-trump-royally-screwed/

:lol Popcorn all around! :lol

[boutons_deux]

https://ci5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/7YerKfb03FVXjpe7qg5yM4pnLQ6OEq-E_cIjRr1sGn7VNInLCEmFx6MPL_PdWtMpjdFK50yHnAmDC3Bsk irn3yMWU0Lg6PzRboGj58EBUwUKZ2eaptXMXGcH0HHAeFkWLO_ ZqhCM2wvTcOEhAhkPwOogkiq2QllxbHxHOXC0=s0-d-e1-ft#https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5983a2ba691e6f734b7d4901/1:1/w_520%2Cc_limit/Borowitz-Trump-Calls.jpg (http://links.newyorker.mkt4334.com/ctt?kn=12&ms=MTE2MjIxNDkS1&r=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&b=0&j=MTIyMDMwMzMxMAS2&mt=1&rt=0)

Trump Says Mueller Just Called Him and Said He’s the Most Innocent Person Ever (http://links.newyorker.mkt4334.com/ctt?kn=12&ms=MTE2MjIxNDkS1&r=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&b=0&j=MTIyMDMwMzMxMAS2&mt=1&rt=0)

“It was the middle of the afternoon, and he just picked up the phone

to say how innocent I was,” President Trump said, of the special counsel.

(http://links.newyorker.mkt4334.com/ctt?kn=12&ms=MTE2MjIxNDkS1&r=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&b=0&j=MTIyMDMwMzMxMAS2&mt=1&rt=0)“He said I was the most innocent person he’d ever come across, and maybe in history.” (http://links.newyorker.mkt4334.com/ctt?kn=12&ms=MTE2MjIxNDkS1&r=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&b=0&j=MTIyMDMwMzMxMAS2&mt=1&rt=0)

... Borowitz!

[Pavlov]

The article talks about his meeting with Victor Podobnyy. That's when the FBI was monitoring Page, they found Page insignificant and let it go.

If you have something other instance of him being under FBI surveillance back then post it.I just posted it.

He met Podobnyy in January 2013 and stayed in contact until June 2013, when he was interviewed by the FBI. The secret warrant that was just announced is from 2014.

Now, if you have information about the secret 2014 intel warrant filed before today, go ahead and post it. Until then, your timeline is off.

[djohn2oo8]

What a terrible day for the hillbilly crew.

[TSA]

I just posted it.

He met Podobnyy in January 2013 and stayed in contact until June 2013, when he was interviewed by the FBI. The secret warrant that was just announced is from 2014.

Now, if you have information about the secret 2014 intel warrant filed before today, go ahead and post it. Until then, your timeline is off.

What was the third FISA warrant for?

[TSA]

FOX News’ Judge Napolitano Just Admitted Trump Is Royally Screwed

“It’s a sign that Bob Mueller is going at least several steps beyond where Jim Comey went in the investigation of Mrs. Clinton [and her emails],” Napolitano said.

“It is a sign that he has found something, from some source, and that is going to be explained to the grand jury in order to persuade them to vote to issue a subpoena.”

Sensing the gravity of that statement, Cavuto veered to a question about process before coming back to the central question:

how bad is this?

Judge Napolitano did not offer the answer Fox News fans were hoping for.

“It means he has found something, some evidence, of some criminal behavior, which has caused him to want to dig deeper, and the instrument for digging deeper is a subpoena, and only a grand jury can issue a subpoena.”

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/03/fox-news-judge-napolitano-just-admitted-trump-royally-screwed/

:lol Popcorn all around! :lol
:lol now you are quoting Napolitano?

[TSA]

What a terrible day for the hillbilly crew.

do you have a list of targets, subjects, and witnesses no one else has seen?

[boutons_deux]

:lol now you are quoting Napolitano?

of course, if Fox propagandist Nappy says Trash is screwed, that's quotable.

Just like posting even Repug cheerleader Rasmussen poll showing Trash approval under 40%, that's quotable

[Chris]

do you have a list of targets, subjects, and witnesses no one else has seen?

Tapper says more shoes!

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao :lmao :lmao

[TSA]

Tapper says more shoes!

My body is ready

[Reck]

Tapper says more shoes!


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:lmao :lmao :lmao

Looks like more shoes!

:lol

[Reck]

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:lmao :lmao :lmao

BTW when was the last time we had a figure only president?

This guy is president in name only. I think Pence as VP has more sway. Sad

[TSA]

The letdown here after the no bill will be glorious

[boutons_deux]

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:lmao :lmao :lmao

Holy Crap, Trash getting REAMED in every orifice.

[Trainwreck2100]

A grand jury don't mean shit. He's investigating russia not trump.

[boutons_deux]

A grand jury don't mean shit. He's investigating russia not trump.

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

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lawd!

[DarrinS]

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lawd!

Got em!

[baseline bum]

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lawd!

Is that the guy working with Lousie Mensch?