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Pavlov
07-18-2018, 04:04 PM
Question pending.Yes, and you didn't answer it.

djohn2oo8
07-18-2018, 04:13 PM
Bot malfunctioning

djohn2oo8
07-18-2018, 04:14 PM
:lol treason

You’ve lost all credibility. Go sit in the corner with djohn.

You've run out of conspiracy theories. i can see why you are moody lately.

RandomGuy
07-18-2018, 04:16 PM
Question pending.


I generally agree Russia's efforts had little overall effect, but it wasn't for a lack of trying. The question is, whether we should put up with active efforts of an intelligence agency of a foreign government to attack the very idea of democracy itself. Western liberal democracy is under threat from authoritarian regimes. That is important.

There is also the matter that the sitting president appears to be actively compromised by that same government.

But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest shit possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.

The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened, and has gone so far as to take the extraordinary effort to delegitimize his own intelligence services when they something did happen. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

Fact 6:
Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.

Fact 7:
Donald Trump, when forced to sign a bipartisan sanctions bill passed with a veto-proof majority of both houses of Congress, issued a signing statement saying most of it was unconstitutional, and that his administration would enforce it as little as possible.


Fact 8:
when Russia retaliated against sanctions by forcing the US embassy to cut staff, Trump thanked Putin for the action, making him look weak, something he has said one should never do, and is inconsistent with his past behavior in any other regard.

Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.

xylophone

Pavlov
07-18-2018, 04:16 PM
You've run out of conspiracy theories. i can see why you are moody lately.TSA reduced to drive-bys.

Blog has not given him guidance after the Fabulous Finland Fail.

RandomGuy
07-18-2018, 04:21 PM
Kevin from The Office thought he found his soul mate.

ROFL.

RandomGuy
07-18-2018, 04:22 PM
:lol treason

You’ve lost all credibility. Go sit in the corner with djohn.

Maybe you can tell me what Rubina was charged with. Smells like... collusion to me.

When they coming for podesta? :rollin

Pavlov
07-18-2018, 04:26 PM
Maybe you can tell me what Rubina was charged with. Smells like... collusion to me.

When they coming for podesta? :rollinThey might be coming for them with an immunity offer. That would be worth it just to see the meltdown.

RandomGuy
07-18-2018, 04:27 PM
I offered money as well, you declined like a pussy there too.

I would note, that there are indications in the filings from Mueller that Cambridge Analytica data was passed on to the Russians for their information warfare efforts.

I have said that the most likely conduit for collusion was data sharing from the RNC to CA, then on to the Russians, at the Trump campaign's behest.

That meet your definition of collusion, mother fucker?

RandomGuy
07-18-2018, 04:29 PM
They might be coming for them with an immunity offer. That would be worth it just to see the meltdown.

Yup. They want to scare her into rolling over on her US peeps. Probably can't get her to roll on Putin.

I doubt she will be the only Russian in the US caught up in this. Their efforts are pretty diffuse.

Chris
07-18-2018, 04:35 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiakxdHWkAA5Fy5.jpg:large

Pavlov
07-18-2018, 04:35 PM
Yup. They want to scare her into rolling over on her US peeps. Probably can't get her to roll on Putin.

I doubt she will be the only Russian in the US caught up in this. Their efforts are pretty diffuse.I was actually talking about the Podesta brothers with the Manafort trial since they were subcontractors. Seems unlikely they are among the five potential offers though.

Chris
07-18-2018, 05:41 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiakxdHWkAA5Fy5.jpg:large

Pavlov
07-18-2018, 05:46 PM
lol Chris has to quote and repeat his *ding*s

But thanks for admitting it was Russia:tu

Reck
07-18-2018, 06:00 PM
...and Bob Menendez knows :tu

Considerably more than you, for sure.

Guy's a senator. He gets classified brienfings. :lol Chris

boutons_deux
07-18-2018, 06:53 PM
Trump to CBS: ‘I Think I Did Great’ at Press Conference With Putin

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-to-cbs-i-think-i-did-great-at-press-conference-with-putin/

Chris
07-18-2018, 06:56 PM
Considerably more than you, for sure.

Guy's a senator. He gets classified brienfings. :lol Chris

lol sooper secret classified briefings

lol Menendez

lol Reck

boutons_deux
07-18-2018, 09:29 PM
Trump Repeats ‘No Collusion’ Like A Scared Child When Asked If He’ll Talk To Mueller

Donald Trump sounded like a scared child on Wednesday when faced with the prospect of a sit-down interview with Robert Mueller.

During an interview with Jeff Glor of CBS News, the president was

asked whether he would meet with the special counsel as part of the ongoing investigation into whether the Trump campaign worked with Russia in 2016.

“There’s no collusion,”

Trump responded, becoming visibly unglued.

“I didn’t deal with Russia.”

GLOR: You’ve said you’ll sit with the special counsel before. Has anything changed in the past six months to change your mind–

TRUMP: No, my lawyers are working on it.

There’s no collusion.

I didn’t deal with Russia.

I had nothing to do with Russia with respect to my race.

I won that race rather easily :lol

and I can tell you that I think, frankly,

2020, I think it’s going to be even better than we did in ’16. :lol

GLOR: Are you more likely to sit for an interview now?

TRUMP: My lawyers are working on that.

I’ve always wanted to do an interview because –

look – there’s been no collusion.

his lawyers – clearly recognizing that truth-telling is not a skill Trump has – are working overtime to avoid such a politically and legally suicidal situation.

In the meantime,

Trump will continue claiming he’d love to talk to Mueller,

all while shouting “no collusion” like a scared child.

His tantrums are convincing nobody –

not the American people and

especially not Robert Mueller.

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/07/18/trump-collusion-scared-child-mueller.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (https://www.politicususa.com/2018/07/18/trump-collusion-scared-child-mueller.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

Trash LIES every single day, many times, PROVEN, many times.

but Trash is telling the truth with "no collusion" repeated dumbly ad nauseam? :lol

Reck
07-18-2018, 09:40 PM
lol sooper secret classified briefings

lol Menendez

lol Reck

:lol


WASHINGTON — Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election.


The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.




Mr. Trump sounded grudgingly convinced,


Mr. Trump sounded grudgingly convinced,


Mr. Trump sounded grudgingly convinced,

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/world/europe/trump-intelligence-russian-election-meddling-.html

:lmao Chris

djohn2oo8
07-18-2018, 09:45 PM
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djohn2oo8
07-18-2018, 09:53 PM
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djohn2oo8
07-18-2018, 09:54 PM
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djohn2oo8
07-18-2018, 09:57 PM
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and you had TSA praising Wikileaks

djohn2oo8
07-18-2018, 10:01 PM
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Reck
07-18-2018, 10:17 PM
Aww looks like we lost Chris tonight. Get some new lithium, brah.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 06:17 AM
Aww looks like we lost Chris tonight. Get some new lithium, brah.

There is nowhere left to hide now.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 06:22 AM
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djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 06:25 AM
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djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 06:32 AM
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This didnt age well

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 06:39 AM
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LOL

boutons_deux
07-19-2018, 07:15 AM
White House, State at odds over Putin’s interview proposal

The White House and the State Department are at odds over Russian President Vladimir Putin’s offer to allow the U.S. access to Russians

accused of election meddling in return for interviews of Americans accused by the Kremlin of unspecified crimes.

Even as the White House said the offer, made by Putin to President Donald Trump at their summit in Helsinki on Monday,

was under consideration,

the State Department called Russia’s allegations against the Americans “absurd,”

suggesting that

any questioning of them would not be countenanced by the U.S.

The Russian claims against the Americans, including former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, relate to allegations of fraud and corruption.


“The overall assertions that have come out of the Russian government are absolutely absurd:

the fact that they want to question 11 American citizens and the assertions that

the Russian government is making about those American citizens,” spokeswoman Heather Nauert told reporters.

McFaul tweeted Wednesday:

“I hope the White House corrects the record and

denounces in categorical terms this ridiculous request from Putin.

Not doing so creates moral equivalency between

a legitimacy US indictment of Russian intelligence officers

and

a crazy, completely fabricated story invented by Putin.”

Nauert noted that a U.S. federal court had already rejected Russia’s charges regarding British businessman and vocal Kremlin critic Bill Browder.

She said Russian authorities already know the U.S. position.

Browder was a driving force behind a U.S. law targeting Russian officials over human rights abuses.

https://apnews.com/4c087f7cdc2b439784efca827e006176/White-House,-State-at-odds-over-Putin's-interview-proposal#/nws=mcnewsletter

and Browder's actions led to the Magnitsky Act financial sanctions which seriously, still today, hurt, isolate Pootin, his mafiya, Russia.

Flynn's shenanigans and the "adoptions" meeting were all about lifting the Magnitsky Act

Pompeo is objecting strongly to Trash supporting Pootin? amazing

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 07:33 AM
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boutons_deux
07-19-2018, 07:36 AM
As Russians describe ‘verbal agreements’ at summit, U.S. officials scramble for clarity

Two days after President Trump’s summit with Russian President Vladi*mir Putin, Russian officials offered a string of assertions about what the two leaders had achieved.

“Important verbal agreements” were reached at the Helsinki meeting, Russia’s ambassador to the United States, Anatoly Antonov,

told reporters in Moscow Wednesday, including preservation of the New Start and INF agreements, major bilateral arms control treaties whose futures have been in question.

Antonov also said that

Putin had made “specific and interesting proposals to Washington” on how the two countries could cooperate on Syria.

But officials at the most senior levels across the U.S. military,

scrambling since Monday to determine what Trump may have agreed to on national security issues in Helsinki,

had little to no information Wednesday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/as-russians-describe-verbal-agreements-at-summit-us-officials-scramble-for-clarity/2018/07/18/8bb1e96c-8aa7-11e8-a345-a1bf7847b375_story.html?utm_term=.4c9bb1ab3e36

:lol The Trash Klown Reality Show

Pootin continually laughing his ass off at the chaos he and his "intelligence asset" Trash have visited on USA, making the USA look silly, lost, unprofessional, fucked up.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 07:43 AM
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:lol

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 11:09 AM
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Education4Libs
07-19-2018, 11:21 AM
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Just wait till my lover, er, i mean BFF Chris sees this! He'll meme the shit out of you!

TSA
07-19-2018, 12:04 PM
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Last gasp effort from former IC heads. They may have caught word Trump is about to declassify it all and are trying to get their narrative rolling first.

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TSA
07-19-2018, 12:04 PM
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:lol Clapper

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 12:05 PM
:lol Clapper

You were quoting him not long ago, cumrag.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 12:06 PM
Last gasp effort from former IC heads. They may have caught word Trump is about to declassify it all and are trying to get their narrative rolling first.

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Trump was shown evidence about Putin and lied about it. You better have my money in your bank account ready to transfer over bitch.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 12:08 PM
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Coon Clarke in the barrel

TSA
07-19-2018, 12:12 PM
Trump was shown evidence about Putin and lied about it. You better have my money in your bank account ready to transfer over bitch.

:lol trusting the proven liar Clapper

I’m happy to see you acknowledging our bet though. Even happier to see you re-energized as the let down for you will be even funnier.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 12:19 PM
:lol trusting the proven liar Clapper

I’m happy to see you acknowledging our bet though. Even happier to see you re-energized as the let down for you will be even funnier.

The proven liar is Trump who said Russia didn't do it when he was shown evidence directly it was Putin. Again, you're nothing but a jizzstain.

Spurminator
07-19-2018, 12:21 PM
Last gasp effort from former IC heads. They may have caught word Trump is about to declassify it all and are trying to get their narrative rolling first.

That would be an odd strategy if they knew declassification would prove them wrong.

Chucho
07-19-2018, 12:22 PM
The proven liar is Trump who said Russia didn't do it when he was shown evidence directly it was Putin. Again, you're nothing but a jizzstain.


What's the evidence that ties Putin to it directly?

TSA
07-19-2018, 12:25 PM
What's the evidence that ties Putin to it directly?

The anonymous source in the NYT said so.

TSA
07-19-2018, 12:27 PM
That would be an odd strategy if they knew declassification would prove them wrong.

Nervous people act strange and don’t always think clearly. Look who’s protesting the loudest these days. Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Yates. They’re fucked and they know it.

Spurminator
07-19-2018, 12:28 PM
Nervous people act strange and don’t always think clearly. Look who’s protesting the loudest these days. Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Yates. They’re fucked and they know it.

:lol

What a silly premise.

Trump is protesting louder than any of them. To say nothing of "acting strangely."

spurraider21
07-19-2018, 12:29 PM
Nervous people act strange and don’t always think clearly. Look who’s protesting the loudest these days. Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Yates. They’re fucked and they know it.
i would have gone with trump and goodlatte

Spurminator
07-19-2018, 12:30 PM
The cognitive dissonance is truly amazing.

Pavlov
07-19-2018, 12:41 PM
:lol ClapperAre you saying Trump wasn't shown this information at this time TSA?

Yes or no.

Reck
07-19-2018, 12:53 PM
Just wait till my lover, er, i mean BFF Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) sees this! He'll meme the shit out of you!

:lmao This alt

:lmao

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 12:55 PM
What's the evidence that ties Putin to it directly?

Texts Emails and CIA source close to Putin.

TSA
07-19-2018, 12:56 PM
Are you saying Trump wasn't shown this information at this time TSA?

Yes or no.I’m in the same boat as Lee

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djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 12:56 PM
The cognitive dissonance is truly amazing.

That's what happens when he runs out of theories.

TSA
07-19-2018, 12:57 PM
Texts Emails and CIA source close to Putin.

Who leaked this to the NYT and what was their motivation?

TSA
07-19-2018, 12:57 PM
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djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 12:58 PM
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Nothing TSA can do to spin it

Education4Libs
07-19-2018, 01:05 PM
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Nothing TSA can do to spin it

Joe Walsh is a homosexual libcuck who hates America, he proved it by doing a scripted fake interview with Sasha Baron Cohen.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 01:06 PM
:lol

koriwhat
07-19-2018, 01:08 PM
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can't wait to see that toad looking motherfucker hanging from the gallows.


1020002625062924288
Nothing TSA can do to spin it

you and walsh are two fucking idiots.

Pavlov
07-19-2018, 01:09 PM
Nervous people act strange and don’t always think clearly. Look who’s protesting the loudest these days. Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Yates. They’re fucked and they know it.lol Trump said "no collusion" eight times in a minute and a half answering one question.

Reck
07-19-2018, 01:09 PM
Where exactly do you think you live at Calf?

:lol Hanging from the gallows

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 01:10 PM
Where exactly do you think you live at Calf?

:lol Hanging from the gallows

Jean shorts and tube socks. Smh.

Pavlov
07-19-2018, 01:10 PM
I’m in the same boat as LeeDodge #1.

Are you saying Trump wasn't shown this information at this time TSA?

Yes or no.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 01:10 PM
lol Trump said "no collusion" eight times in a minute and a half answering one question.

:lol

Trey Gowdy
07-19-2018, 01:10 PM
lol Trump said "no collusion" eight times in a minute and a half answering one question.
He was just trolling to own the libs tho.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 01:13 PM
He was just trolling to own the libs tho.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Pavlov
07-19-2018, 01:18 PM
Nervous people act strange and don’t always think clearly.I went out there and reviewed a clip of an answer that I gave and I realize there’s a need for some clarification. It should have been obvious, I thought it would be obvious, but I would like to clarify just in case it wasn’t—in a key sentence in my remarks, I said the word ‘would’ instead instead of ‘wouldn’t.’ The sentence should have been, ‘I don’t see any reason why I wouldn’t,’ or ‘it wouldn’t be Russia.’

So, just to repeat it, I said the word ‘would’ instead of ‘wouldn’t.’ The sentence should have been—and I thought I would maybe be a little bit unclear on the transcript or unclear on the actual video— the sentence should have been, ‘I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be Russia.’ Sort of a double negative. So, you can put that in and I think that probably clarifies things pretty good by itself.

koriwhat
07-19-2018, 01:21 PM
Where exactly do you think you live at Calf?

:lol Hanging from the gallows

tranny thinks he's funny.

clambake
07-19-2018, 01:22 PM
you are the biggest badass that ever lived!

koriwhat
07-19-2018, 01:31 PM
poor clam trying and trying but never succeeding.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 01:32 PM
Who leaked this to the NYT and what was their motivation?

Leaks bad now? Because you were loving Wikileaks.

Chris
07-19-2018, 01:40 PM
Just wait till my lover, er, i mean BFF Chris sees this! He'll meme the shit out of you!

Wtf :lol who approved these new trolls :lol

boutons_deux
07-19-2018, 01:46 PM
fucking Repugs KNOW that Pootin elected Trash, and that Pootin will continue to support Trash and all Repugs

'USA! USA!': House Democrats Chant As

Republicans Refuse to Vote for Amendment Protecting US Elections

The Democrats stood to their feet after a member described election interference as "one of the most pressing issues of our time."

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/usa-usa-house-democrats-chant-republicans-refuse-vote-amendment-protecting-us

Repugs want to continue their partisan/racial gerrymandering, their counting fraud, and allow Pootin to keep electing Repugs.

America is fucked and unfuckable, when Repugs want to create a one-party autocratic country for white Christians, with help from a mortal adversary.

koriwhat
07-19-2018, 01:55 PM
fucking Repugs KNOW that Pootin elected Trash, and that Pootin will continue to support Trash and all Repugs

'USA! USA!': House Democrats Chant As

Republicans Refuse to Vote for Amendment Protecting US Elections

The Democrats stood to their feet after a member described election interference as "one of the most pressing issues of our time."

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/usa-usa-house-democrats-chant-republicans-refuse-vote-amendment-protecting-us
Repugs want to continue their partisan/racial gerrymandering, their counting fraud, and allow Pootin to keep electing Repugs.
America is fucked and unfuckable, when Repugs want to create a one-party autocratic country for white Christians, with help from a mortal adversary.


god you're crazy man. seriously crazy! you and my brother would be best friends and he's a huge pussy just like you and has a loser mentality just like you as well. sad sad sad.

Chris
07-19-2018, 02:42 PM
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Pavlov
07-19-2018, 03:11 PM
1019753680398999552Yep.

Also:

My view has not changed, which is that Russia attempted to interfere with the last election and that it continues to engage in malign influence operations to this day.

lol Chris

Education4Libs
07-19-2018, 03:14 PM
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:tu That’s my man! I can’t wait for you to get home so I can drink up all your hot white completely dominant, lib owning takes.

clambake
07-19-2018, 03:16 PM
:tu That’s my man! I can’t wait for you to get home so I can drink up all your hot white completely dominant, lib owning takes.

i don't get it. didn't chris use to follow you, and now you follow him?

Education4Libs
07-19-2018, 03:19 PM
i don't get it. didn't chris use to follow you, and now you follow him?
True! Sometime Chris is on top, then we switch and I’ll be on top for a while.

boutons_deux
07-19-2018, 03:26 PM
Trash is ready to sacrifice Obama's ambassador to Russia to Pootin's murderers

'They Are Serving a Hostile Foreign Power':

Officials React in Horror as the White House Considers Letting Russia Question Ex-Ambassador

The more we learn about Trump's meeting with Putin, the worse it looks.

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/they-are-serving-hostile-foreign-power-officials-react-horror-white-house

If McFaul refused to go, would Trash have him arrested and expedited?

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 04:01 PM
Yep.

Also:


lol Chris

lol Chris half reading.

TSA
07-19-2018, 04:51 PM
One FBI text message in Russia probe that should alarm every American

By John Solomon

Lisa Page and Peter Strzok, the reported FBI lovebirds, are the poster children for the next "Don't Text and Investigate" public service ads airing soon at an FBI office near you.

Their extraordinary texting affair on their government phones has given the FBI a black eye, laying bare a raw political bias brought into the workplace that agents are supposed to check at the door when they strap on their guns and badges.

It is no longer in dispute that they held animus for Donald Trump, who was a subject of their Russia probe, or that they openly discussed using the powers of their office to "stop" Trump from becoming president. The only question is whether any official acts they took in the Russia collusion probe were driven by those sentiments.

The Justice Department's inspector general is endeavoring to answer that question.

For any American who wants an answer sooner, there are just five words, among the thousands of suggestive texts Page and Strzok exchanged, that you should read.

That passage was transmitted on May 19, 2017. "There's no big there there," Strzok texted.

The date of the text long has intrigued investigators: It is two days after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein named special counsel Robert Mueller to oversee an investigation into alleged collusion between Trump and the Russia campaign.

Since the text was turned over to Congress, investigators wondered whether it referred to the evidence against the Trump campaign.

This month, they finally got the chance to ask. Strzok declined to say - but Page, during a closed-door interview with lawmakers, confirmed in the most pained and contorted way that the message in fact referred to the quality of the Russia case, according to multiple eyewitnesses.

The admission is deeply consequential. It means Rosenstein unleashed the most awesome powers of a special counsel to investigate an allegation that the key FBI officials, driving the investigation for 10 months beforehand, did not think was "there."

By the time of the text and Mueller's appointment, the FBI's best counterintelligence agents had had plenty of time to dig. They knowingly used a dossier funded by Hillary Clinton's campaign - which contained uncorroborated allegations - to persuade the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court to issue a warrant to monitor Trump campaign adviser Carter Page (no relation to Lisa Page).

They sat on Carter Page's phones and emails for nearly six months without getting evidence that would warrant prosecuting him. The evidence they had gathered was deemed so weak that their boss, then-FBI Director James Comey, was forced to admit to Congress after being fired by Trump that the core allegation remained substantially uncorroborated.

In other words, they had a big nothing burger. And, based on that empty-calorie dish, Rosenstein authorized the buffet menu of a special prosecutor that has cost America millions of dollars and months of political strife.

The work product Strzok created to justify the collusion probe now has been shown to be inferior: A Clinton-hired contractor produced multiple documents accusing Trump of wrongdoing during the election; each was routed to the FBI through a different source or was used to seed news articles with similar allegations that further built an uncorroborated public narrative of Trump-Russia collusion. Most troubling, the FBI relied on at least one of those news stories to justify the FISA warrant against Carter Page.

That sort of multifaceted allegation machine, which can be traced back to a single source, is known in spy craft as "circular intelligence reporting," and it's the sort of bad product that professional spooks are trained to spot and reject.

But Team Strzok kept pushing it through the system, causing a major escalation of a probe for which, by his own words, he knew had "no big there there."

The answer as to why a pro such as Strzok would take such action has become clearer, at least to congressional investigators. That clarity comes from the context of the other emails and text messages that surrounded the May 19, 2017, declaration.

It turns out that what Strzok and Lisa Page were really doing that day was debating whether they should stay with the FBI and try to rise through the ranks to the level of an assistant director (AD) or join Mueller's special counsel team.

"Who gives a f*ck, one more AD like [redacted] or whoever?" Strzok wrote, weighing the merits of promotion, before apparently suggesting what would be a more attractive role: "An investigation leading to impeachment?"

Lisa Page apparently realized the conversation had gone too far and tried to reel it in. "We should stop having this conversation here," she texted back, adding later it was important to examine "the different realistic outcomes of this case."

A few minutes later Strzok texted his own handicap of the Russia evidence: "You and I both know the odds are nothing. If I thought it was likely, I'd be there no question. I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there's no big there there."

So the FBI agents who helped drive the Russia collusion narrative - as well as Rosenstein's decision to appoint Mueller - apparently knew all along that the evidence was going to lead to "nothing" and, yet, they proceeded because they thought there was still a possibility of impeachment.

Impeachment is a political outcome. The only logical conclusion, then, that congressional investigators can make is that political bias led these agents to press an investigation forward to achieve the political outcome of impeachment, even though their professional training told them it had "no big there there."

And that, by definition, is political bias in action.

How concerned you are by this conduct is almost certainly affected by your love or hatred for Trump. But put yourself for a second in the hot seat of an investigation by the same FBI cast of characters: You are under investigation for a crime the agents don't think occurred, but the investigation still advances because the desired outcome is to get you fired from your job.

Is that an FBI you can live with?

http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/397902-opinion-one-fbi-text-message-in-russia-probe-should-alarm-every-american?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Pavlov
07-19-2018, 04:55 PM
One FBI text message in Russia probe that should alarm every American

By John Solomon

Lisa Page and Peter Strzok, the reported FBI lovebirds, are the poster children for the next "Don't Text and Investigate" public service ads airing soon at an FBI office near you.

Their extraordinary texting affair on their government phones has given the FBI a black eye, laying bare a raw political bias brought into the workplace that agents are supposed to check at the door when they strap on their guns and badges.

It is no longer in dispute that they held animus for Donald Trump, who was a subject of their Russia probe, or that they openly discussed using the powers of their office to "stop" Trump from becoming president. The only question is whether any official acts they took in the Russia collusion probe were driven by those sentiments.

The Justice Department's inspector general is endeavoring to answer that question.

For any American who wants an answer sooner, there are just five words, among the thousands of suggestive texts Page and Strzok exchanged, that you should read.

That passage was transmitted on May 19, 2017. "There's no big there there," Strzok texted.

The date of the text long has intrigued investigators: It is two days after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein named special counsel Robert Mueller to oversee an investigation into alleged collusion between Trump and the Russia campaign.

Since the text was turned over to Congress, investigators wondered whether it referred to the evidence against the Trump campaign.

This month, they finally got the chance to ask. Strzok declined to say - but Page, during a closed-door interview with lawmakers, confirmed in the most pained and contorted way that the message in fact referred to the quality of the Russia case, according to multiple eyewitnesses.

The admission is deeply consequential. It means Rosenstein unleashed the most awesome powers of a special counsel to investigate an allegation that the key FBI officials, driving the investigation for 10 months beforehand, did not think was "there."

By the time of the text and Mueller's appointment, the FBI's best counterintelligence agents had had plenty of time to dig. They knowingly used a dossier funded by Hillary Clinton's campaign - which contained uncorroborated allegations - to persuade the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court to issue a warrant to monitor Trump campaign adviser Carter Page (no relation to Lisa Page).

They sat on Carter Page's phones and emails for nearly six months without getting evidence that would warrant prosecuting him. The evidence they had gathered was deemed so weak that their boss, then-FBI Director James Comey, was forced to admit to Congress after being fired by Trump that the core allegation remained substantially uncorroborated.

In other words, they had a big nothing burger. And, based on that empty-calorie dish, Rosenstein authorized the buffet menu of a special prosecutor that has cost America millions of dollars and months of political strife.

The work product Strzok created to justify the collusion probe now has been shown to be inferior: A Clinton-hired contractor produced multiple documents accusing Trump of wrongdoing during the election; each was routed to the FBI through a different source or was used to seed news articles with similar allegations that further built an uncorroborated public narrative of Trump-Russia collusion. Most troubling, the FBI relied on at least one of those news stories to justify the FISA warrant against Carter Page.

That sort of multifaceted allegation machine, which can be traced back to a single source, is known in spy craft as "circular intelligence reporting," and it's the sort of bad product that professional spooks are trained to spot and reject.

But Team Strzok kept pushing it through the system, causing a major escalation of a probe for which, by his own words, he knew had "no big there there."

The answer as to why a pro such as Strzok would take such action has become clearer, at least to congressional investigators. That clarity comes from the context of the other emails and text messages that surrounded the May 19, 2017, declaration.

It turns out that what Strzok and Lisa Page were really doing that day was debating whether they should stay with the FBI and try to rise through the ranks to the level of an assistant director (AD) or join Mueller's special counsel team.

"Who gives a f*ck, one more AD like [redacted] or whoever?" Strzok wrote, weighing the merits of promotion, before apparently suggesting what would be a more attractive role: "An investigation leading to impeachment?"

Lisa Page apparently realized the conversation had gone too far and tried to reel it in. "We should stop having this conversation here," she texted back, adding later it was important to examine "the different realistic outcomes of this case."

A few minutes later Strzok texted his own handicap of the Russia evidence: "You and I both know the odds are nothing. If I thought it was likely, I'd be there no question. I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there's no big there there."

So the FBI agents who helped drive the Russia collusion narrative - as well as Rosenstein's decision to appoint Mueller - apparently knew all along that the evidence was going to lead to "nothing" and, yet, they proceeded because they thought there was still a possibility of impeachment.

Impeachment is a political outcome. The only logical conclusion, then, that congressional investigators can make is that political bias led these agents to press an investigation forward to achieve the political outcome of impeachment, even though their professional training told them it had "no big there there."

And that, by definition, is political bias in action.

How concerned you are by this conduct is almost certainly affected by your love or hatred for Trump. But put yourself for a second in the hot seat of an investigation by the same FBI cast of characters: You are under investigation for a crime the agents don't think occurred, but the investigation still advances because the desired outcome is to get you fired from your job.

Is that an FBI you can live with?

http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/397902-opinion-one-fbi-text-message-in-russia-probe-should-alarm-every-american?amp&__twitter_impression=trueI'm fine with the investigation.

If they did nothing wrong they have nothing to worry about.

It's pretty stupid to question the Mueller appointment at this stage.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 05:34 PM
I'm fine with the investigation.

If they did nothing wrong they have nothing to worry about.

It's pretty stupid to question the Mueller appointment at this stage.

But I thought TSA seddddddd Mueller and Flynn were in cahoots?

Pavlov
07-19-2018, 05:37 PM
But I thought TSA seddddddd Mueller and Flynn were in cahoots?:lol He still hasn't decided after a year.

He's too proud to say he's part of Trump's cult of personality and that he's fallen for multiple stupid conspiracy theories.

Chris
07-19-2018, 06:10 PM
1020056363295264768

boutons_deux
07-19-2018, 06:10 PM
Peter + Liza = Benghazi 2.0 :lol

"the evidence was going to lead to "nothing"

We'll see if Mueller comes up with "nothing" on traitor, Pootin-fellator Trash.

Chris
07-19-2018, 06:14 PM
1020060757378195456

spurraider21
07-19-2018, 06:15 PM
1020056363295264768
mueller probe good now

Pavlov
07-19-2018, 06:16 PM
1020060757378195456Author: Martin


:lmao

Chris
07-19-2018, 06:18 PM
Author: Martin


:lmao

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/19/non-profit-files-fec-complaint-against-clinton-campaign-dnc-over-dossier/

Pavlov
07-19-2018, 06:20 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/19/non-profit-files-fec-complaint-against-clinton-campaign-dnc-over-dossier/:lol Breitbart

So what's the possible penalty in this BOMBSHELL case, Chris?

spurraider21
07-19-2018, 06:21 PM
lol complaint filed by Coolidge Reagan Foundation

Chris
07-19-2018, 06:23 PM
:lol Breitbart

So what's the possible penalty in this BOMBSHELL case, Chris?

False Specification of Expenditure Purpose; False Identification of Expenditure Recipient; False Identification of Expenditures’ Purpose and Recipient; Solicitation of Donations (or Contributions) from Foreign Nationals; Substantially Assisting Solicitation of Donations from Foreign Nationals; Donation or Expenditure by a Foreign National; and Foreign National Participation in Political Committees’ Decision making Processes Concerning Expenditures


You tell me Pavlov.

Pavlov
07-19-2018, 06:25 PM
False Specification of Expenditure Purpose; False Identification of Expenditure Recipient; False Identification of Expenditures’ Purpose and Recipient; Solicitation of Donations (or Contributions) from Foreign Nationals; Substantially Assisting Solicitation of Donations from Foreign Nationals; Donation or Expenditure by a Foreign National; and Foreign National Participation in Political Committees’ Decision making Processes Concerning Expenditures


You tell me Pavlov.I asked you, Chris -- this is your BOMBSHELL.

What are the possible penalties?

Chris
07-19-2018, 06:26 PM
I asked you, Chris -- this is your BOMBSHELL.

What are the possible penalties?

I'm saying I don't know and was asking you if you knew. Apparently you don't know either.

Pavlov
07-19-2018, 06:27 PM
I'm saying I don't know and was asking you if you knew. Apparently you don't know either.Nope. Not much of a BOMBSHELL is it?

Chris
07-19-2018, 06:30 PM
Nope. Not much of a BOMBSHELL is it?

I don't obsess over minutiae like you do. Also that is subjective and irrelevant.

Pavlov
07-19-2018, 06:31 PM
I don't obsess over minutiae like you do. Also that is subjective and irrelevant.So what's relevant here, Chris?

Why did you bring it up?

boutons_deux
07-19-2018, 06:33 PM
Pootin target Bill Browder explains the security measures he has to take to stay alive and out of Putin’s hands

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/BillBrowder-800x430.jpg

Financier Bill Browder, who once managed one of the biggest foreign investment firms in Russia, is on Vladimir Putin’s “hit list.”

Browder, 54-year, has worked to expose Putin’s corruption (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/kremlin-foe-bill-browder-tells-west-russian-money-putins-achilles-heel/). During and interview with MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace, Browder detailed the security measures he must go through to remain safe.

“Talk to us about what sort of security measures you’ve put in place for yourself,” Wallace said. “Are you worried about your safety generally?”

Browder said Putin has been trying to kill him for five years, so he has solid routine down.

“Well, the first thing I should point out is although the world has seen Vladimir Putin’s anger against me, this has been going on five years,” Browder said.

“This is at no different a level now than it was five years ago. he’s very angry.

He wants to destroy me, kill me or arrest me, and he’s been trying those things for a number of years.”

He continued:

“Yes, I do have many security measures in place.

The most important security measure is legal security.

I only go to countries where governments will support me and not hand me over to Vladimir Putin.”

“That severely limits your travel, I would assume,” Wallace said.

Browder explained that there are several countries he feels safe in.

“Well, not really. I mean there are a number of rule of law countries around the world,” he said.

He said he has been arrested in Madrid, but the government let him go.

"They make up criminal accusations against their enemies.

They called me a spy.

They said that I stole $4.8 billion of IMF money destined for Russia in 1998.

They just throw this stuff out like candy against their enemies” he explained.

“In order to try to discredit people who are fighting corruption or fighting for human rights,

they try to criminalize them.

It’s a standard operating procedure.

They do it to every single person that’s a human rights activist.

The more effective you are,

the more allegations they throw out there.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/putin-target-bill-browder-explains-security-measures-take-stay-alive-putins-hands/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

No wonder Trash adores Pootin, they both specialize is LIES and SLANDER.

Chris
07-19-2018, 06:40 PM
So what's relevant here, Chris?

Why did you bring it up?

They filed a FEC complaint against the Clinton campaign and the DNC over the dossier. Figured that was relevant Pavlov.

boutons_deux
07-19-2018, 06:42 PM
A secret offer that Putin made to Trump behind closed doors just leaked

Bloomberg is reporting that Vladimir Putin told his diplomats this week (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-19/putin-said-to-have-made-trump-a-new-offer-on-ukraine-at-summit) that

he issued a proposal to Trump about holding a referendum in eastern Ukraine

to decide whether or not the separatist republics of Donetsk and Luhansk – collectively known as the Donbass region – should remain part of Ukraine.

Vladimir Putin told Russian diplomats that he made a proposal to Donald Trump at their summit this week to hold a referendum to help resolve the conflict in eastern Ukraine,

but agreed not to disclose the plan publicly so the U.S. president could consider it


Bloomberg reports (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-19/putin-said-to-have-made-trump-a-new-offer-on-ukraine-at-summit) that the two had agreed to keep the plan under wraps

so Trump could “consider” the proposal, :lol

which will probably involve

Trump not paying attention

as his neocon ghoul advisors clutch their pearls so hard they asphyxiate before ignoring them and

doing whatever Russia wants him to anyway.

A referendum in Donbass will almost certainly be rigged in favor of breaking away

and will represent a significant expansion of the Russian sphere of influence in Eastern Europe,

watching Putin use his hold on Trump to legitimize his territorial and strategic ambitions is

deeply disturbing and

represents an existential threat to NATO and the western democracies of Eastern Europe that cannot be taken lightly.

https://washingtonpress.com/2018/07/19/a-secret-offer-that-putin-made-to-trump-behind-closed-doors-just-leaked/

Of course, whatever Pootin wants, traitor Trash delivers

Pavlov
07-19-2018, 06:42 PM
They filed a FEC complaint against the Clinton campaign and the DNC over the dossier. Figured that was relevant Pavlov.As a *ding* sure.

lol Chris

Chris
07-19-2018, 06:49 PM
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi54.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg84 %2Fhatemalicerevenge%2Ftumblr_ll335phYwX1qk1kc2o1_ 500.gif&f=1

Pavlov
07-19-2018, 06:55 PM
lol BOMBSHELL

TSA
07-19-2018, 07:37 PM
Looks like Podesta is one of the five that got use immunity. Very interesting.

DarrinS
07-19-2018, 07:42 PM
Looks like Podesta is one of the five that got use immunity. Very interesting.

Podesta good; Manafort bad

because...

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 08:11 PM
Hmm. Paul Erickson, the GOP operative who sexed Butina, pushed tor KT Mcfarland to become Deputy NSA adviser. You know. The same Mcfarland who wrote in an email Russia threw the election to Trump.

Reck
07-19-2018, 08:49 PM
:lol Breitbart

So what's the possible penalty in this BOMBSHELL case, Chris?

The penalty is that it was a complaint made by a salty organization.

There's your BOOM!

TSA
07-19-2018, 09:28 PM
Hmm. Paul Erickson, the GOP operative who sexed Butina, pushed tor KT Mcfarland to become Deputy NSA adviser. You know. The same Mcfarland who wrote in an email Russia threw the election to Trump.

The same GOP operative that got his Russia meetings attempts shut down was somehow influential in installing KT? :rollin

TSA
07-19-2018, 09:49 PM
Looks like Podesta is one of the five that got use immunity. Very interesting.

1020122080698929152

Reck
07-19-2018, 10:07 PM
Lol Tucker.

a new low for you TSA.

You’re better off quoting 4chan’s FBI annon.

TSA
07-19-2018, 10:27 PM
Lol Tucker.

a new low for you TSA.

You’re better off quoting 4chan’s FBI annon.

Why would one be better off quoting 4chan?

Spurminator
07-19-2018, 10:31 PM
Anonymous sources good again.

This must get exhausting.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2018, 11:00 PM
1020101912434130944
:lmao :lmao :lmao Wow

boutons_deux
07-20-2018, 12:44 AM
FBI informant Marcy Wheeler: 'Mueller is sitting on a lot' (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/17/1781419/-FBI-informant-Marcy-Wheeler-Mueller-is-sitting-on-a-lot)

Wheeler, a journalist and staunch privacy advocate who writes a national security blog called emptywheel (https://www.emptywheel.net/), revealed a source to the FBI after her conscience compelled her to do so.

Wheeler says she received a text shortly after Donald Trump was elected that piqued her interest, and then some.


Her blog post centers on a text message she says she got from the source on Nov. 9, 2016 — about 14 hours after the polls closed — predicting that Michael Flynn, who would be Trump’s appointee for national security adviser, would be meeting with “Team Al-Assad” within 48 hours.

Russia has been perhaps the Assad regime’s staunchest ally.

As she noted: “The substance of the text — that the Trump team started focusing on Syria right after the election — has been corroborated and tied to their discussions with Russia at least twice since then.”

Wheeler won’t say when she went to the FBI other than that it was in 2017.

In December 2017, Flynn flipped, pleading guilty to one count of lying to the FBI about his contact with the Russian government during the presidential transition; Trump had fired him in February.

In addition to the knowledge of her source’s inside information, Wheeler said, she had reason to believe that the source was involved with efforts to compromise her website and other communications.

And perhaps most important, that he was involved in cyberattacks — past and future — that had done and could do real harm to innocent people.


In a new interview with Pod Save America, Wheeler elaborated, claiming that

Mueller is “sitting on a lot” and that we’re bound to see some big plot twists before this is all over.

For instance, when asked if most of the information that’s bound to eventually become public is already out there, Wheeler indicated that there’s still plenty to be revealed:

“Well, my part’s going to be a surprise for virtually everyone, but some of what I know was in public.

Some of what I went to the FBI with was, ‘Hey, look at this that’s public.’

I just was looking at it from a very different perspective than a lot of people.

And that’s part of the core case, I think.

Again, the reason I went to the FBI is because this person played a significant role in the election attack,

not because … he sent me a text 15 hours after the polls closed making it very clear

he knew exactly what was going on inside the White House.

And this is not a Republican and not somebody who has any ties to Trump. ...

“I assume it must be true that there are many witnesses like me who were witnesses to stuff that nobody knows about,

who were watching people who no one’s paying attention to who were part of this, and

so yeah, I suspect that that kind of case is going to be pretty surprising and pretty strong.

“I mean, I’ve said that I never talked to Peter Strzok, who is the FBI agent that Trump attacked in Helsinki today.

He wasn’t anywhere near the testimony I gave to the FBI;

I wasn’t actually speaking to the Mueller inquiry when I did, and I can point to things that, between what I told the FBI and what I found, you know, shortly thereafter lying out there in public,

I can get right to Trump, and I assume that’s true by a number of means, and therefore

… Mueller is sitting on a lot, and he, I think, is going to roll it out.

And if today is any indication, I mean,

finally we’ve got Republicans saying this is beyond the pale,

we cannot have a president subject himself to a hostile foreign power like

Trump did today. I think we might see some momentum finally turning against Trump.”


When asked if the revelations in Mueller’s report will ultimately be jaw-dropping, like The Sixth Sense, or a disappointment, like The Village, Wheeler said this:

“I think there are some big plot twists.

I did a series some months ago when the questions that Mueller wants Trump to answer came out, and I laid it out.

This is clear quid pro quo.

They went to Trump and said,

‘We’ll help you.

We want sanctions relief,

we want Syria,

throw in Ukraine,

maybe we’ll throw in a Trump Tower.’

And that’s it;

that is the basic equation we’re talking about.”


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/17/1781419/-FBI-informant-Marcy-Wheeler-Mueller-is-sitting-on-a-lot

RandomGuy
07-20-2018, 09:14 AM
Why I’m No Longer a Russiagate Skeptic

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/07/20/confession-of-a-no-longer-russiagate-skeptic-219022

RandomGuy
07-20-2018, 09:14 AM
1020056363295264768

Dance, Marionetka!

RandomGuy
07-20-2018, 09:20 AM
Yes I did, THERE WAS CULOSION HER MA FIELNG!!!!

And nothing yet, all fart clouds of a really weak and tiring agenda.

You don’t have to buy Jonathan Chait’s sleeper agent theory of Trump to believe that something is deeply weird about all this. Nor do you need to be convinced that Putin is hanging onto a recording of something untoward that may have taken place in a certain Moscow hotel room. You don’t even have to buy the theory that Trump’s business is overly dependent on illicit flows of Russia money, giving Putin leverage. As Julia Ioffe posits, the kompromat could well be the mere fact of the Russian election meddling itself.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/07/20/confession-of-a-no-longer-russiagate-skeptic-219022

RandomGuy
07-20-2018, 09:21 AM
1020056363295264768

I generally agree Russia's efforts had little overall effect, but it wasn't for a lack of trying. The question is, whether we should put up with active efforts of an intelligence agency of a foreign government to attack the very idea of democracy itself. Western liberal democracy is under threat from authoritarian regimes. That is important.

There is also the matter that the sitting president appears to be actively compromised by that same government.

But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest shit possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.

The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened, and has gone so far as to take the extraordinary effort to delegitimize his own intelligence services when they something did happen. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

Fact 6:
Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.

Fact 7:
Donald Trump, when forced to sign a bipartisan sanctions bill passed with a veto-proof majority of both houses of Congress, issued a signing statement saying most of it was unconstitutional, and that his administration would enforce it as little as possible.


Fact 8:
when Russia retaliated against sanctions by forcing the US embassy to cut staff, Trump thanked Putin for the action, making him look weak, something he has said one should never do, and is inconsistent with his past behavior in any other regard.

Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.

xylophone

TSA
07-20-2018, 02:23 PM
1019675301914271745

uh oh

Pavlov
07-20-2018, 02:27 PM
1019675301914271745

uh ohIs your conspiracy theory now that Flynn pleaded guilty as a king spook operation again?

I've lost track of your flip-flopping.

boutons_deux
07-20-2018, 02:34 PM
A top official just issued a stark warning about Russia.

To this White House, he’s ‘gone rogue.’

White House advisers are in an “uproar” over an interview that Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats gave to NBC News on Thursday

After all,

Coats starkly warned that Russia is currently trying to “wreak havoc over our elections” — meaning Russia is trying to do this right now —

and is working to “divide us” from our “allies.”

No wonder White House advisers are worked up —

after all, Russia already got away with sabotaging our last election, and they’re trying to do it again.

Okay, I’m kidding.

Here’s what really upset them about this Coats interview (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-hes-looking-forward-to-second-summit-with-putin/2018/07/19/450a0424-8b59-11e8-8aea-86e88ae760d8_story.html?utm_term=.9e4f31fbc6eb):

Inside the White House, [President] Trump’s advisers were in an uproar over Coats’s interview in Aspen, Colo.

They said the optics were especially damaging,

noting that at moments Coats appeared to be laughing at the president,

playing to his audience of the intellectual elite in a manner that was sure to infuriate Trump.

“Coats has gone rogue,” said one senior White House official,

who spoke on the condition of anonymity to provide a candid assessment.


The director of national intelligence issued an extensive warning that Russia is again trying to corrupt U.S. democracy,

and White House advisers are worried that Trump will be angered by his tone.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/07/20/a-top-intelligence-official-just-issued-a-stark-warning-about-russia-to-this-white-house-hes-gone-rogue/?utm_term=.860e6aa99d3a

Every FUCKING WEEK ... :lol

Meanwhile, the kakistocracy Exec branch, the Repug Congress, right wing ideological Judicial branch fuck up America for decades to come.

RandomGuy
07-20-2018, 03:34 PM
1019675301914271745

uh oh

What is your theory as to why Trump is sucking Putin's dick?

Pavlov
07-20-2018, 03:35 PM
KING SPOOK PLEADED GUILTY TO A FELONY AND IS COOPERATING WITH MUELLER LIKE A BOSS

TSA
07-20-2018, 03:38 PM
What is your theory as to why Trump is sucking Putin's dick?

That’s not a view I hold.

Why would someone change Pientka’s 302?

RandomGuy
07-20-2018, 04:05 PM
What is your theory as to why Trump is sucking Putin's dick?


That’s not a view I hold.

Why would someone change Pientka’s 302?

Has Trump criticized Putin, yes or no?

RandomGuy
07-20-2018, 04:12 PM
That’s not a view I hold.


So what is your theory as to why Trump is licking Putin's taint?

TSA
07-20-2018, 05:04 PM
So what is your theory as to why Trump is licking Putin's taint?

That is not a view I hold and you have a question pending.

Why would someone change Pientka’s 302?

TSA
07-20-2018, 05:07 PM
I was wondering why all these Trump stories started popping up today.

Justice Department to Release FISA Documents on Carter Page This Afternoon

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/justice-department-to-release-fisa-documents-on-carter-page-this-afternoon/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Pavlov
07-20-2018, 05:07 PM
I was wondering why all these Trump stories started popping up today.

Justice Department to Release FISA Documents on Carter Page This Afternoon

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/justice-department-to-release-fisa-documents-on-carter-page-this-afternoon/amp/?__twitter_impression=true:lmao Everything is a conspiracy to you.

boutons_deux
07-20-2018, 05:08 PM
Friday dump

boutons_deux
07-20-2018, 05:25 PM
Trump’s new Supreme Court pick just found himself smack in the middle of the Trump-Russia conspiracy

A Russian company accused by Special Counsel Robert Mueller of interfering in the 2016 elections, Concord Management and Consulting, is using a curious argument for their legal defense from a very telling source –

a court decision made by President Trump’s Supreme Court Justice nominee, Brett Kavanaugh.

In 2011, Kavanaugh argued that the federal government needs to be able to prove that any foreigner being charged with violating political contribution law were aware that the law was being broken —

and his memorandum was quoted by Concord’s lawyers in their efforts to get Mueller to drop the charges. (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/20/russian-firm-cites-trump-supreme-court-pick-in-bid-to-dismiss-charges.html)

“The Special Counsel found a set of alleged facts for which there is no crime.

Instead of conceding that truth, however, the Special Counsel attempts to create a make-believe crime that is in fact no crime at all” argued Concord’s lawyers in their Monday motion.

Concord Management has been charged by the Mueller team with conspiracy to defraud the United States

during the 2016 election by providing “funds and oversight” for the Internet Research Agency,

the infamous “troll farm” in St. Petersburg from which the social media disinformation campaign against Hillary Clinton was waged.

The company was founded by Russian businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin, who is also known as “Putin’s chef” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/indicted-russian-firm-tied-to-putins-chef-internet-research-agency-set-to-plead-not-guilty-in-us-court/2018/05/09/17e2f5ce-5304-11e8-abd8-265bd07a9859_story.html)

due to his closeness to the Russian leader and his ownership of an enormous food catering company.

Given that we have highly classified information that indicates Vladimir Putin himself ordered the meddling into the 2016 election (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/world/europe/trump-intelligence-russian-election-meddling-.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news),

it’s safe to say that Prigozhin and his company definitely broke some laws.

https://washingtonpress.com/2018/07/20/trumps-new-supreme-court-pick-just-found-himself-smack-in-the-middle-of-the-trump-russia-conspiracy/

RandomGuy
07-20-2018, 06:28 PM
That is not a view I hold and you have a question pending.

Why would someone change Pientka’s 302?

Why would I give 2 squirts of shit about anything you have to say pizzaboichik?

I'll answer:

Because reasons that are almost certainly not relevant, nor material to anything except your fevered fapping about muh Clinton Podesta child molestation.

Now why don't you tell me what the strongest criticism Trump has made of Vladimir Putin is?

Was Trumps craven performance in Helsinki consistent with my theory of Trump being compromised?

Reck
07-20-2018, 06:35 PM
I was wondering why all these Trump stories started popping up today.

Justice Department to Release FISA Documents on Carter Page This Afternoon

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/justice-department-to-release-fisa-documents-on-carter-page-this-afternoon/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Those Trump stories were self made by the man himself. :lol

djohn2oo8
07-20-2018, 06:37 PM
1020436915990999041
:lmao

Mikeanaro
07-20-2018, 06:39 PM
You don’t have to buy Jonathan Chait’s sleeper agent theory of Trump to believe that something is deeply weird about all this. Nor do you need to be convinced that Putin is hanging onto a recording of something untoward that may have taken place in a certain Moscow hotel room. You don’t even have to buy the theory that Trump’s business is overly dependent on illicit flows of Russia money, giving Putin leverage. As Julia Ioffe posits, the kompromat could well be the mere fact of the Russian election meddling itself.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/07/20/confession-of-a-no-longer-russiagate-skeptic-219022
What is this crap? first it names the 30k missing Hillary emails, then Trump met with a president in a private meeting, I wasnt aware that meetings should be made with a milion cameras but at the same time I dont have videos of Obozo with Putin discussing business war or whatever.
So now everything has to be public? Must Trump ask you what to tell Putin?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8_dnJgi_tI

First they were friends, but now with Trump they are enemies? please...

The article doesnt say a thing about Pinchuk who gave Trump 150 k but at the same time gave 25 million to Hilliardsky.

At the same time it names the Stormy Daniels thing, a whore he fucked 12 years ago, he wasnt president back then you understand that?
Then she extorted him for money, got it and now what?
Same the other Playboy cheap whore, got paid and cant deal with it.

Then you have shits like Comey or Strzok, the same guys who didnt see the ¨CULOXION COMING!¨ but they were willing to take him down.

But certainly, the intent was there, as Donald Trump, Jr. has said publicly. They were all too happy to accept Russian help, even if they weren’t sure they would be enough to win in the end.

It seems Hillary was very happy to accept 25 million from Russians and then a shit ton of money from people that throws gays and women off buildings.

We might never get clear evidence that Trump made a secret deal with the Kremlin.
There is more evidence of Uranium One, Rigging primaries and getting rich using politics than all that woulda/coulda/shoulda.

Total waste of time.

Pavlov
07-20-2018, 06:42 PM
:lmao Uranium One

TSA
07-20-2018, 06:44 PM
Why would I give 2 squirts of shit about anything you have to say pizzaboichik?

I'll answer:

Because reasons that are almost certainly not relevant, nor material to anything except your fevered fapping about muh Clinton Podesta child molestation.

Now why don't you tell me what the strongest criticism Trump has made of Vladimir Putin is?

Was Trumps craven performance in Helsinki consistent with my theory of Trump being compromised?

Don’t know why you are bringing up Clinton and Podesta. Pientka was the FBI agent who along with Strzok interviewed Mike Flynn.

Why would someone change Pientka’s 302?

RandomGuy
07-20-2018, 06:46 PM
1019675301914271745

uh oh


Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein revealed indictments against 12 Russians for the hacks of the Democratic National Committee, and we learned that Russian hackers went after Hillary Clinton’s private office for the first time on the very day Trump said, “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”

At the NATO summit in Brussels, Trump attacked a close European ally—Germany—and generally questioned the value of the alliance. Next, he visited the United Kingdom and trashed Prime Minister Theresa May.

Then, in Helsinki, he met with Vladimir Putin privately for two hours, with no U.S. officials present other than a translator. After this suspicious meeting, he sang the Russian strongman’s praises at a news conference at which he said he viewed Putin’s denials on a par with the unanimous and unchallenged conclusions of America’s intelligence agencies.
https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2018/0720/Sanders-Ocasio-Cortez-team-up-to-energize-Kansas-Democrats

Someday, you may exit your cult. I wish you well on that day, and know that I have done what I could to help you.

RandomGuy
07-20-2018, 06:48 PM
What is this crap? first it names the 30k missing Hillary emails, then Trump met with a president in a private meeting, I wasnt aware that meetings should be made with a milion cameras but at the same time I dont have videos of Obozo with Putin discussing business war or whatever.
So now everything has to be public? Must Trump ask you what to tell Putin?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8_dnJgi_tI

First they were friends, but now with Trump they are enemies? please...

The article doesnt say a thing about Pinchuk who gave Trump 150 k but at the same time gave 25 million to Hilliardsky.

At the same time it names the Stormy Daniels thing, a whore he fucked 12 years ago, he wasnt president back then you understand that?
Then she extorted him for money, got it and now what?
Same the other Playboy cheap whore, got paid and cant deal with it.

Then you have shits like Comey or Strzok, the same guys who didnt see the ¨CULOXION COMING!¨ but they were willing to take him down.

But certainly, the intent was there, as Donald Trump, Jr. has said publicly. They were all too happy to accept Russian help, even if they weren’t sure they would be enough to win in the end.

It seems Hillary was very happy to accept 25 million from Russians and then a shit ton of money from people that throws gays and women off buildings.

We might never get clear evidence that Trump made a secret deal with the Kremlin.
There is more evidence of Uranium One, Rigging primaries and getting rich using politics than all that woulda/coulda/shoulda.

Total waste of time.

With every other world leader, the physically imposing Trump attempts to dominate—witness his alpha-male handshakes with French President Emanuel Macron or his flamboyant man-spreading next to German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Yet with the diminutive Putin—who is maybe 5 feet, 6 inches tall—he’s oddly submissive. During the public portion of their encounter, Trump was slumping in his chair, as if defeated. Why? Why did he insist on a one-on-one meeting with Putin in the first place?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/07/20/confession-of-a-no-longer-russiagate-skeptic-219022




What is the strongest criticism that Trump has offered of Vladimir Putin?

RandomGuy
07-20-2018, 06:50 PM
Don’t know why you are bringing up Clinton and Podesta. Pientka was the FBI agent who along with Strzok interviewed Mike Flynn.

Why would someone change Pientka’s 302?

Politically speaking, Trump’s devotion to his pro-Putin line doesn’t make sense.

Yes, the GOP base is impressionable, and perhaps Republican voters would accept it if Trump came out and said, “You bet, Russia helped get me elected, and wasn’t that a good thing? We couldn’t let Crooked Hillary win!” But nobody would say his odd solicitousness toward the Kremlin leader is a political winner, and it certainly causes an unnecessary amount of friction with Republicans in Congress.

He’s kept it up at great political cost to himself, and that suggests either that he is possessed by an anomalous level of conviction on this one issue, despite his extraordinary malleability on everything else—or that he’s beholden to Putin in some way.

Mikeanaro
07-20-2018, 06:53 PM
With every other world leader, the physically imposing Trump attempts to dominate—witness his alpha-male handshakes with French President Emanuel Macron or his flamboyant man-spreading next to German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Yet with the diminutive Putin—who is maybe 5 feet, 6 inches tall—he’s oddly submissive. During the public portion of their encounter, Trump was slumping in his chair, as if defeated. Why? Why did he insist on a one-on-one meeting with Putin in the first place?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/07/20/confession-of-a-no-longer-russiagate-skeptic-219022




What is the strongest criticism that Trump has offered of Vladimir Putin?
Why? is this a filenz thing?
Would it make you feel better if he shits over him?
Did O and H say something about him?

ducks
07-20-2018, 11:51 PM
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/37303466_1857439734312575_2472824122137116672_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=23b401316fe104f83600d61238efe778&oe=5BDC1FB2

Pavlov
07-21-2018, 12:43 AM
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/37303466_1857439734312575_2472824122137116672_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=23b401316fe104f83600d61238efe778&oe=5BDC1FB2What is the significance of this?

Reck
07-21-2018, 12:44 AM
What is the significance of this?

You actually clicked on that? I thought it was a virus or some shit. Wierd ass looking link. :lol

Pavlov
07-21-2018, 12:48 AM
You actually clicked on that? I thought it was a virus or some shit. Wierd ass looking link. :lolPretty sure they're from facebook posts.

boutons_deux
07-21-2018, 09:34 AM
You actually clicked on that? I thought it was a virus or some shit. Wierd ass looking link. :lol

nope, just an ignorant right winger in daily befuddlement, self-delusion

the "fb" is FaceBook

https://better.fyi/trackers/fbcdn.net/

ducks
07-21-2018, 09:54 AM
What is the significance of this?

Both Bush can talk to Putin but not trump

ducks
07-21-2018, 11:57 AM
12 Russians can influence election
But 25 million illegal People living in USA can not?
They are not from the USA just like Russia

Pavlov
07-21-2018, 11:58 AM
12 Russians can influence election
But 25 million illegal People living in USA can not?
They are not from the USA just like RussiaGreat, what is your legal evidence against the 25 million, ducks?

Spurminator
07-21-2018, 01:17 PM
I was wondering why all these Trump stories started popping up today.

Justice Department to Release FISA Documents on Carter Page This Afternoon

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/justice-department-to-release-fisa-documents-on-carter-page-this-afternoon/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The documents they released yesterday must have been explosive.

Pavlov
07-21-2018, 01:27 PM
The documents they released yesterday must have been explosive.I think they were snail mailed. For reals.

boutons_deux
07-21-2018, 01:29 PM
The FBI's top cybersecurity officials are jumping ship (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/20/1782219/-The-FBI-s-top-cybersecurity-officials-are-jumping-ship)

Five senior FBI officials in charge of election protection and cybersecurity have left the government.

Early in the week, the news broke (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/17/1781285/-With-top-FBI-elections-protection-official-gone-Trump-talks-about-giving-the-job-to-Putin) that the co-leader of the agency's foreign influence task force Jeff Tricoli had departed the agency.

That task force is tasked with preventing foreign interference in elections.

Now the Wall Street Journal is reporting (https://www.wsj.com/articles/three-top-fbi-cybersecurity-officials-to-retire-1532036330) the departure of three top FBI cybersecurity officials as well as a deputy to one of those officials.

(Tricoli? didn't he graduate from Ridgemont HHigh?)

They are:

Scott Smith, assistant FBI director who runs the Bureau's cyber division who is leaving this month as well as

Smith's deputy, Howard Marshall who is already gone;

Smith's supervisor David Resch, executive assistant director of the FBI’s criminal, cyber, response and services branch;

and Carl Ghattas, the agency's national security branch executive assistant director.

These are all senior-level officials, civil service professionals who were around through previous administrations.

Also, too,

"One U.S. official said more people are expected to leave soon, declining to provide additional names."

Are Trump and his minions in the House driving them out? Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) suggests so.

"One-and-one-half branches of our government appear to be committed to attacking the Bureau, its workforce and its mission on a near-daily basis."

FBI Director Chris Wray downplayed this, saying "Would they (FBI agents) prefer not to get criticized? Of course. […] But at the end of the day, the criticism we care about is the people who know our work."

But former officials say there are high levels of frustration, particularly in cybersecurity.

"There’s an internal tension in terms of how to staff cyber properly. […]

We constantly have new people

("new" people as in "Repug incompetent political hacks to kneecap FBI cybersecurity")

in leadership reinventing the cyber program," one former official told the WSJ.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/20/1782219/-The-FBI-s-top-cybersecurity-officials-are-jumping-ship

boutons_deux
07-21-2018, 03:33 PM
Russians now dictating to USA how operate its legal system

Lavrov tells Pompeo: free Russian woman accused in U.S. of espionage

Russia’s foreign minister told his U.S. counterpart on Saturday that

a woman arrested in the United States on accusations she was a Russian agent had been detained on “fabricated charges” and should be released.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-lavrov/lavrov-tells-pompeo-free-russian-woman-accused-in-u-s-of-espionage-idUSKBN1KB0JU?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29

... effectively calling DoJ liars.

Thanks, Trash!

Chris
07-21-2018, 04:16 PM
Told you there was a separate "leaking" investigation. Sessions...


1020759942926602240
1020774674416873472

Pavlov
07-21-2018, 04:18 PM
Told you there was a separate "leaking" investigation. Sessions...


1020759942926602240
1020774674416873472Has McCabe actually been indicted, Chris?

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 05:30 PM
1020790543411032071

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 05:31 PM
1020793449447075846

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 05:32 PM
1020796790306721794

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 05:35 PM
1020796641975160838
CROFL TSA

Pavlov
07-21-2018, 05:44 PM
TSA has to move the goalposts now.

Bu-bu-but the redacted parts! Det's where the meanie stuff is! I demand to see all of the secret document!

Chris
07-21-2018, 05:46 PM
Will break down the FISA app in a few :tu

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 05:50 PM
TSA has to move the goalposts now.

Bu-bu-but the redacted parts! Det's where the meanie stuff is! I demand to see all of the secret document!

:lmao

Chris
07-21-2018, 06:05 PM
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1020801173694054400

pgardn
07-21-2018, 06:07 PM
^

Comic book stuff...

AaronY
07-21-2018, 06:07 PM
"The_War_Economy" has spoken people..listen up

Chris
07-21-2018, 06:09 PM
tl/dr


tl/dr

Yep.

AaronY
07-21-2018, 06:11 PM
Yep.
I just can't handle the truth, Chris..I just can't handle it

Pavlov
07-21-2018, 06:12 PM
Yep.I read it.

Not quite the BOMBSHELL your team wanted tbh.

lol not even anonymous twitter can sex it up

AaronY
07-21-2018, 06:12 PM
R.I.P. F.B.I. tho..it had a good run

Chris
07-21-2018, 06:15 PM
R.I.P. KGB tho...don't act like it's inconceivable.

Pavlov
07-21-2018, 06:16 PM
R.I.P. KGB tho...don't act like it's inconceivable.Explain how it could happen, Chris.

Chris
07-21-2018, 06:17 PM
Explain how it could happen, Chris.

Trump Executive Order or Congress.

Pavlov
07-21-2018, 06:20 PM
Trump Executive Order or Congress.Then what?

AaronY
07-21-2018, 06:21 PM
Double post

AaronY
07-21-2018, 06:22 PM
It would be pretty sweet since FBI New York is like "Trumpland" according to reports to see them all those their jobs lmao

http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/371755-davis-deep-state-existed-in-16-but-it-elected-trump
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump

then they could be interviewed like the people who lost their job due to tariffs yet still love The Donald and they could say how they also still like and support Trump as well haha

Chris
07-21-2018, 06:24 PM
Then what?

Chicken butt.

Pavlov
07-21-2018, 06:24 PM
Chicken butt.That's a troll post.

Chris
07-21-2018, 06:47 PM
Hillary Clinton campaign --> Perkins Coie -> Marc Elias -> [Fusion GPS] -> Christopher Steele -> Dossier -> Mueller investigation

pgardn
07-21-2018, 07:03 PM
Hillary Clinton campaign --> Perkins Coie -> Marc Elias -> [Fusion GPS] -> Christopher Steele -> Dossier -> Mueller investigation

No spider web or feedback loops, damn.

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 08:07 PM
1020796153879715840
"others in the campaign"

pgardn
07-21-2018, 08:22 PM
I read it.

Not quite the BOMBSHELL your team wanted tbh.

lol not even anonymous twitter can sex it up

Thats one part of it.
He left out the not so pleasant.

He stole a comic book from a writer who took only the drawings he liked.
Typical Chris.

pgardn
07-21-2018, 08:52 PM
Trump is upset Cohen recorded him...

Trump did not explain why he made the suggestion that he might have secretly recorded conversations with his former FBI director in the first place – nor why he waited 41 days to clear up the confusion.

Fckn lunatic.

pgardn
07-21-2018, 08:58 PM
“I don’t agree with those who demonize or vilify the FBI,” Cohen told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos. “I respect the FBI as an institution, as well as their agents.”

A circus of clowns....
Maybe none of them get pinned down for anything as they are all ruled mentally incapacitated.

pgardn
07-21-2018, 09:03 PM
Rudy claims Cohen’s tapes will release burden from Orange guy yet Orange guy is pissed...

Do they need to talk BEFORE each of them slobber all over each other...

Chris
07-21-2018, 09:54 PM
1020858372260880385

Chris
07-21-2018, 10:03 PM
1020862418178756608

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 10:08 PM
1020837633239453696

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 10:09 PM
1020840497856876546

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 10:09 PM
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:lmao Chris

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 10:10 PM
1020842531607797760

Chris
07-21-2018, 10:11 PM
1020841254282817536
:lmao Chris

Yeah, I already posted all of that above.

:lmao djohn

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 10:12 PM
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oh my

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 10:13 PM
Yeah, I already posted all of that above.

:lmao djohn

Yeah. Not everything dipshit.
:lmao your argument dead
:lmao Page was legally surveilled

pgardn
07-21-2018, 10:13 PM
Yeah, I already posted all of that above.

:lmao djohn

So you won the tweet war?

Or just this tweeting battle?

Chris
07-21-2018, 10:14 PM
Yeah. Not everything dipshit.
:lmao your argument dead
:lmao Page was legally surveilled

Yeah everything. You are just now catching up.

:lmao

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 10:14 PM
"But but the FBEYE only relieddddd on da dodgehhh dossier!!!!!" :cry

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 10:15 PM
Yeah everything. You are just now catching up.

:lmao

No you cherry picked and now you are mad you got caught :rollin

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 10:15 PM
1020837633239453696

4 times. 4 Republican judges.

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 10:17 PM
1020825888143872001
:lmao

Reck
07-21-2018, 10:20 PM
1020816592429633537

TSA and Chris
https://media3.giphy.com/media/UwwEC4VZIDVcc/giphy.gif

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 10:21 PM
1020816592429633537

TSA and Chris
https://media3.giphy.com/media/UwwEC4VZIDVcc/giphy.gif

:lmao

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 10:33 PM
Trump associate agent of the Russian govt. Guess that ran Chris off.

Winehole23
07-21-2018, 10:33 PM
looks like Nunes lied his ass off

djohn2oo8
07-21-2018, 10:36 PM
looks like Nunes lied his ass off

Oh yes. And he is surely quiet now.

Winehole23
07-21-2018, 10:47 PM
HPSCI Republicans were counting on the DOJ NOT releasing the Carter Page FISA request.

oops

Reck
07-21-2018, 11:03 PM
HPSCI Republicans were counting on the DOJ NOT releasing the Carter Page FISA request.

oops

WE WILL IMPEACH ROD ROSEISTEIN IF HE DOESN'T RELEASE THE DOCUMENTS!

*Releases documents*

Generic republicans: Uh, WHY YOU DO THAT??

Chris
07-22-2018, 02:34 AM
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Reck
07-22-2018, 02:36 AM
Did Rex type that he's "confident" with his feet?

Pavlov
07-22-2018, 03:11 AM
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1020896762825883649lol anonymous twitter meltdown

BOB IS ROBERT MUELLER EXCEPT WHEN HE ISN'T

boutons_deux
07-22-2018, 07:05 AM
Trump accuses Justice Department of of ‘illegal scam’ to get Hillary elected in Twitter meltdown

President Donald Trump was up early Sunday morning, attacking the Justice Department over surveillance warrant information that was released late Saturday on former campaign adviser Carter Page,

stating government officials “misled the courts.”

“Congratulations to @JudicialWatch and TomFitton on being successful in getting the Carter Page FISA documents. As usual they are ridiculously heavily redacted but confirm with little doubt that

the Department of “Justice” and FBI misled the courts,” he tweeted. “Witch Hunt Rigged, a Scam!”

He then added,

“Looking more & more like the Trump Campaign for President was illegally being spied upon (surveillance) for the political gain of Crooked Hillary Clinton and the DNC.

Ask her how that worked out – she did better with Crazy Bernie.

Republicans must get tough now. An illegal Scam!”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/trump-accuses-justice-department-illegal-scam-get-hillary-elected-twitter-meltdown/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
07-22-2018, 07:40 AM
So Trash lapdog JeBo releases DoJ records of someone under investigation, creating a bullshit firestorm among Repugs and rightwing hate media, to attack DoJ's FBI as corrupt, partisan and so to support Trash's accusations of Mueller + team as partisan Democrats/witch hunters?

djohn2oo8
07-22-2018, 09:00 AM
So Trash lapdog JeBo releases DoJ records of someone under investigation, creating a bullshit firestorm among Repugs and rightwing hate media, to attack DoJ's FBI as corrupt, partisan and so to support Trash's accusations of Mueller + team as partisan Democrats/witch hunters?

The release of those documents does not help his argument no matter how much he wants to meltdown. Nunes is extra quiet and there is no firestorm.

Winehole23
07-22-2018, 09:02 AM
focus is off family separations.

mission accomplished

boutons_deux
07-22-2018, 09:06 AM
The release of those documents does not help his argument no matter how much he wants to meltdown. Nunes is extra quiet and there is no firestorm.

Nunes? Check Trash's tweets of this morning, he's the cult leader, not Nunes

boutons_deux
07-22-2018, 09:07 AM
focus is off family separations.

mission accomplished

that's euphemistic. damaging people's neurology for political objectives is terrorist torture.

Winehole23
07-22-2018, 09:14 AM
that's a selling point

djohn2oo8
07-22-2018, 09:18 AM
Nunes? Check Trash's tweets of this morning, he's the cult leader, not Nunes
There is no firestorm. Nobody else is mentioning it and as usual his tweets always backfire.

AaronY
07-22-2018, 09:21 AM
focus is off family separations.

mission accomplished
Its 4D CHESS!!

AaronY
07-22-2018, 09:22 AM
https://cdn.spartareport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/4D-5D-10D-Chess-Trump.jpg

boutons_deux
07-22-2018, 09:22 AM
There is no firestorm. Nobody else is mentioning it and as usual his tweets always backfire.

we'll see how Fox, etc twist, "re-context", outright LIE about the DoJ/FISA/Page info

Winehole23
07-22-2018, 09:25 AM
"mainstream" Dems are using the hysteria over Russia to pacify the insurgency on their left.

if they run on this in the fall, they'll be sorry -- voters care far less about Russia than the commentariat.


https://news.gallup.com/poll/1675/most-important-problem.aspx

Winehole23
07-22-2018, 09:30 AM
Its 4D CHESS!!I don't think so, but sometimes a blind pig gets the acorn. Focus on terrible stuff DJT is actually doing has been somewhat relieved.

Rapid cycling of bs will do that.

pgardn
07-22-2018, 09:54 AM
https://cdn.spartareport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/4D-5D-10D-Chess-Trump.jpg

Thats 3-d viewed on a 2-d screen.

You need to illustrate a series of illustrations thru time for 4-d.
It also is sort of a quantum thing if the pieces don’t usually exist between the 3 discreet levels.
I think orange man understands all this but is actually fooling us all.

So... the man is a genius. Yeah...

pgardn
07-22-2018, 09:56 AM
focus is off family separations.

mission accomplished

The list of mistakes is so large the democrats are going to make clean decisions on which to concentrate on.

boutons_deux
07-22-2018, 10:04 AM
white Christian male LGBT-hating supremacists think

white, male, so-called Christian, LGBT-hating Pootin is their man, and his Russia, are their ally, so ...

Group Wants to Create Alliance Between Russia and the American South

An Alabama organization designated as a white supremacis (https://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/23/hillary-clinton-refuses-donald-trump-full-blown-white-supremacist.html)t hate group has

launched a new website to attempt to form an alliance between Russia and the American South. (https://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/07/alabama-based_league_of_the_so.html?utm_campaign=aldotcom_ sf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social)

The group, “League of the South” is based in Alabama :lol and

is classified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, (https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/league-south) and by the Anti-Defamation League (https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/league-of-the-south-los) (ADL).

They are launching a Russian-language page which

calls on Russia and the American South to become allies.

In a letter posted to the League of the South’s website they speak about

“natural similarities” between Russian culture and the conservative southerners.

They said they want to attract people to their group who are interested in “Southern nationalism.”

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/07/22/group-wants-to-create-alliance-between-russia-and-the-american-south.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

America is polarized, divided into factions that warring among themselves (now that their is no common foreign enemy like the USSR).

America is fucked and unfuckable, into permanent, irreversible decline (of the lower 80% domestically, and planet-wide internationally)

boutons_deux
07-22-2018, 10:16 AM
Accused spy Maria Butina was backed by Russian billionaire whose son had ties to Trump campaign

a Washington Post report (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/russian-billionaire-with-us-investments-backed-alleged-agent-maria-butina-according-to-a-person-familiar-with-her-senate-testimony/2018/07/22/dcaa7f48-8c58-11e8-a345-a1bf7847b375_story.html?utm_term=.798f4dea8525), accused Russian agent Maria Butina was the recipient of financial support from a Russian billionaire with substantial investments in the U.S. and whose son volunteered with Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign.

The Post is reporting that sources close to the investigation into

the woman who has been linked to Russian overtures to the NRA was sponsored by Konstantin Nikolaev, a Russian with investments in U.S. energy and technology companies.
According to the report, Butina told the Senate Intelligence Committee in April that

Nikolaev provided funding for a gun rights group she represented,

that has been linked to the NRA.

A spokesman for Nikolaev confirmed that the billionaire was in contact with her as she was launched her suspicious pro-gun rights group in Russia between 2012 and 2014

The spokesperson claimed that Nikolaev does not have any ties to President Donald Trump, however

his son — who is studying in the U.S. — volunteered for Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, according to sources.
Additionally, Konstantin Nikolaev was seen at the Trump International Hotel during Trump’s inauguration in January 2017,

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/accused-spy-maria-butina-backed-russian-billionaire-whose-son-ties-trump-campaign-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/accused-spy-maria-butina-backed-russian-billionaire-whose-son-ties-trump-campaign-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

TSA
07-22-2018, 10:19 AM
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djohn2oo8
07-22-2018, 10:22 AM
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Breaking: 4 judges found probable cause Page was acting as an agent of the Russian Govt. Bitch.

djohn2oo8
07-22-2018, 10:25 AM
Oh yes and 4 REPUBLICAN judges :lol

your theory ded

boutons_deux
07-22-2018, 10:28 AM
Trey Gowdy Calls on Trump Advisers to Resign If He Won't Listen on Russia: 'The Evidence is Overwhelming and the President Needs to Say That'

"The president has access to every bit of evidence,” Trey Gowdy explained.

“Even more than those of us on House Intelligence [Committee] ...

The evidence is overwhelming.

“I can tell you this, Brett, the president has access to every bit of evidence,” Gowdy explained.

“Even more than those of us on House Intelligence [Committee].

He has access to Pompeo and Chris Wray and Dan Coats and Nikki Haley.

The evidence is overwhelming.”

The committee chairman went on to say that Trump

intelligence officials should resign if the president continues to disregard their advice.

https://www.alternet.org/trey-gowdy-calls-trump-advisers-resign-if-he-wont-listen-russia-evidence-overwhelming-and-president

Repugs can speak the truth when they don't have to worry about Kock Bros / oligarchy killing them in the election

djohn2oo8
07-22-2018, 10:32 AM
Come on TSA. Come right on back with that shitty spin of yours so I can knock that shit down.

boutons_deux
07-22-2018, 10:33 AM
The only thing the newly released FISA documents show is that Republicans have been lying for months

Trump and his allies

claim the Steele Dossier was the sole basis for a surveillance warrant of Carter Page.

They are lying.

https://thinkprogress.org/fisa-release-gop-lying-9973e5c28101/

DarrinS
07-22-2018, 10:36 AM
Source #1 = Steele dossier

:lmao

djohn2oo8
07-22-2018, 10:39 AM
Source #1 = Steele dossier

:lmao

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Stated to the court for possible bias. Shut yo dumbass up lil Darrin :lol

djohn2oo8
07-22-2018, 10:40 AM
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Let us proceed

djohn2oo8
07-22-2018, 10:41 AM
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Information separate from Steele that is classified
:lmao Darrin

djohn2oo8
07-22-2018, 10:42 AM
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Page's own interview is ANOTHER source.

:lol Darrin left drinking his own piss again

djohn2oo8
07-22-2018, 10:44 AM
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Gave the court Page's side of the story. Lordy look at Darrin lookin a fool

djohn2oo8
07-22-2018, 10:45 AM
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Awww shit. You mean to tell me Steele was no longer used as a source for the renewals and the court STILL found probable cause? :lmao Darrin/TSA

djohn2oo8
07-22-2018, 10:46 AM
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Christ!

djohn2oo8
07-22-2018, 10:47 AM
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New intel!

boutons_deux
07-22-2018, 10:48 AM
Lindsey Graham Says Trump ‘Confused’ About Russian Meddling:

‘He’s Changed His Mind Four Times This Week’ :lol

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/lindsey-graham-says-trump-confused-by-russian-meddling-hes-changed-his-mind-four-times-this-week/

djohn2oo8
07-22-2018, 10:48 AM
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Darrin down!

dabom
07-22-2018, 10:55 AM
WE WILL IMPEACH ROD ROSEISTEIN IF HE DOESN'T RELEASE THE DOCUMENTS!

*Releases documents*

Generic republicans: Uh, WHY YOU DO THAT??


:lol

DarrinS
07-22-2018, 11:19 AM
:lmao

Read page 16


http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Carter-Page-FISA-Documents.FOIA-Release-1.pdf


US Law firm = Perkins Coie
US Person #1 = Glen Simpson (Fusion GPS)
Source #1 = Steele
Candidate #1 = Trump

Fails to mention who was funding Simpson.

Winehole23
07-22-2018, 11:22 AM
The list of mistakes is so large the democrats are going to make clean decisions on which to concentrate on.starting when?