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boutons_deux
08-10-2017, 02:15 PM
Mueller’s Investigators Just Revealed Who Snitched On Trump Jr. For Secret Russia Meeting
[Paul] Manafort had alerted authorities
to a controversial meeting on June 9, 2016, involving Trump’s son Donald Jr., other campaign representatives and a Russian lawyer promising damaging information on Hillary Clinton, according to people familiar with the matter.
The president and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, were dragged into the matter as details repeatedly emerged that contradicted the initial accounts of that meeting.
But Manafort’s lawyers still claimed that the former Trump Campaign Chairman isn’t a “cooperating witness”… yet.
Donald Trump’s son Don Jr. suddenly found himself at the heart of the Russia collusion investigation because of Manafort’s revelations (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/us/politics/trump-meeting-russia.html).
http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/10/muellers-investigators-just-revealed-snitched-trump-jr-secret-russia-meeting/ (http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/10/muellers-investigators-just-revealed-snitched-trump-jr-secret-russia-meeting/)
You're wrong. He has no friends in either house, or, just trace amounts,,,& that measly amount will do him no good when push comes to shove. And with resignation in my heart that [push will come to shove] in all probability. Trump knows this without being told. A fool can sense it if not actually see it. (They) want him out. And like I've said from the start:::they ain't fuckin' around. And that is why I've said from the start:::I'd have taken off after Mule with a vengeance. He wants to, his treatment of Sessions the catalyst, but, alas, he can't strike that match to the gas can. Probably because HE WANTS to stay, and figures that if he stands real still it'll be okay and he'll survive. He's wrong, of course & wrong headed, but, it's totally human.
So, you go on to the end, taking as many of them (right & left) as you can muster with you.
Just thank Christ he has somewhere to go.
No, I'm really not.
He's now in open war with the only man that can help push Trump's agenda. That doesn't end well.
Thread
08-10-2017, 02:24 PM
No, I'm really not.
He's now in open war with the only man that can help push Trump's agenda. That doesn't end well.
Forget the agenda. Trump has no sway there, he never did. Both sides have been waiting on him since election nite.
Trump ain't in the club. He's trespassing. He cut in line. (We) chose him. (They) didn't choose for us one fucking time.
It's nothing to (them) to allow what languished to remain languishing. They got there's.
RandomGuy
08-10-2017, 03:41 PM
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Lawd
Ruh-oh Raggy.
Maybe Manafort was secretly working for the Clintons, because... reasons. Where is our 4chan Avenger? :lmao
RandomGuy
08-10-2017, 03:42 PM
Forget the agenda. Trump has no sway there, he never did. Both sides have been waiting on him since election nite.
Trump ain't in the club. He's trespassing. He cut in line. (We) chose him. (They) didn't choose for us one fucking time.
It's nothing to (them) to allow what languished to remain languishing. They got there's.
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Chris
08-10-2017, 03:47 PM
So when is Trump going to jail? I thought it was Mueller time.
RandomGuy
08-10-2017, 03:47 PM
http://storage.stcatharinesstandard.ca/v1/blogs-prod-photos/2/5/c/8/d/25c8d9d92317a6c6f33e8078ad2a9674.jpg
found in a google search for "the stupid it burns".
Too funny not to share.
ducks
08-10-2017, 03:50 PM
So when is Trump going to jail? I thought it was Mueller time.
guility until proven innoncent just ask blake
Chris
08-10-2017, 03:52 PM
guility until proven innoncent just ask blake
:lol
Chris
08-10-2017, 04:01 PM
There has been a long effort to counter the official narrative we now call “Russiagate.” This effort has so far focused on the key events noted above, leaving numerous others still to be addressed. Until recently, researchers undertaking this work faced critical shortcomings, and these are to be explained. But they have achieved significant new momentum in the past several weeks, and what they have done now yields very consequential fruit. Forensic investigators, intelligence analysts, system designers, program architects, and computer scientists of long experience and strongly credentialed are now producing evidence disproving the official version of key events last year. Their work is intricate and continues at a kinetic pace as we speak. But its certain results so far are two, simply stated, and freighted with implications:
○ There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.
○ Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/
Pavlov
08-10-2017, 04:50 PM
So when is Trump going to jail? I thought it was Mueller time.How long did the Fiske/Starr investigation take, Chris?
Chris
08-10-2017, 05:01 PM
How long did the Fiske/Starr investigation take, Chris?
Probably a long time. What does that have to do with this?
Splits
08-10-2017, 05:02 PM
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/
Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system
LOL whoever wrote that has no idea what they are talking about. "in short", that doesn't prove shit.
have you ever been given a memory stick as a chotskey at a conference? Seen them as a "free" giveaway at a reception desk? Seen one lying on the floor? Google rubber ducky. Its one of the oldest tricks in the hacker playbook to gain physical access to secure systems
Chris
08-10-2017, 05:04 PM
LOL whoever wrote that has no idea what they are talking about. "in short", that doesn't prove shit.
have you ever been given a memory stick as a chotskey at a conference? Seen them as a "free" giveaway at a reception desk? Seen one lying on the floor? Google rubber ducky. Its one of the oldest tricks in the hacker playbook to gain physical access to secure systems
It was Seth Rich. He got killed for doing so.
Splits
08-10-2017, 05:06 PM
It was Seth Rich. He got killed for doing so.
:lmao
Pavlov
08-10-2017, 05:08 PM
Probably a long time. What does that have to do with this?You just answered your own question.
Chris
08-10-2017, 05:08 PM
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/kdkd3.jpg
Chris
08-10-2017, 05:09 PM
You just answered your own question.
Cool. Thanks I guess?
Pavlov
08-10-2017, 05:11 PM
Cool. Thanks I guess?Probably a long time!
Chris
08-10-2017, 05:14 PM
Probably a long time!
Probably never.
LOL whoever wrote that has no idea what they are talking about. "in short", that doesn't prove shit.
have you ever been given a memory stick as a chotskey at a conference? Seen them as a "free" giveaway at a reception desk? Seen one lying on the floor? Google rubber ducky. Its one of the oldest tricks in the hacker playbook to gain physical access to secure systems
Actually, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. You might want to read the article before embarrassing yourself further.
"Qualified experts working independently of one another began to examine the DNC case immediately after the July 2016 events. Prominent among these is a group comprising former intelligence officers, almost all of whom previously occupied senior positions. Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), founded in 2003, now has 30 members, including a few associates with backgrounds in national-security fields other than intelligence. The chief researchers active on the DNC case are four: William Binney, formerly the NSA’s technical director for world geopolitical and military analysis and designer of many agency programs now in use; Kirk Wiebe, formerly a senior analyst at the NSA’s SIGINT Automation Research Center; Edward Loomis, formerly technical director in the NSA’s Office of Signal Processing; and Ray McGovern, an intelligence analyst for nearly three decades and formerly chief of the CIA’s Soviet Foreign Policy Branch. Most of these men have decades of experience in matters concerning Russian intelligence and the related technologies. This article reflects numerous interviews with all of them conducted in person, via Skype, or by telephone."
boutons_deux
08-10-2017, 06:07 PM
Trump Just Bent Over Backwards To Praise Putin For Expelling US Diplomats From Russia
NBC News is reporting that Trump applauded the expulsion of the diplomats because he’s trying to “cut down on our payroll.”
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DG5UUtKXoAAjDmz.jpg:small (https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/895746093862006784/photo/1)
(https://twitter.com/nickschifrin)
Nick Schifrin (https://twitter.com/nickschifrin)
(https://twitter.com/nickschifrin)✔@nickschifrin (https://twitter.com/nickschifrin)
This is... extraordinary. Trump thanks Putin for expelling 755 US staff currently serving in Russia. Full quotation:
3:38 PM - Aug 10, 2017 (https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/895746093862006784)
http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/10/trump-just-bent-backwards-praise-putin-expelling-us-diplomats-russia-2/
Trash sure loves that delicious Pootin dick (and the $100Ms Pootin bailed Trash out with)
Thread
08-10-2017, 06:11 PM
Trump Just Bent Over Backwards To Praise Putin For Expelling US Diplomats From Russia
NBC News is reporting that Trump applauded the expulsion of the diplomats because he’s trying to “cut down on our payroll.”
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DG5UUtKXoAAjDmz.jpg:small (https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/895746093862006784/photo/1)
(https://twitter.com/nickschifrin)
Nick Schifrin (https://twitter.com/nickschifrin)
(https://twitter.com/nickschifrin)✔@nickschifrin (https://twitter.com/nickschifrin)
This is... extraordinary. Trump thanks Putin for expelling 755 US staff currently serving in Russia. Full quotation:
3:38 PM - Aug 10, 2017 (https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/895746093862006784)
http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/10/trump-just-bent-backwards-praise-putin-expelling-us-diplomats-russia-2/
Trash sure loves that delicious Pootin dick (and the $100Ms Pootin bailed Trash out with)
& I heartily agree with Trump. These cockknockers are in paradise on these posts. Livin' high on said hog. BS. Get your asses home and get a job.
djohn2oo8
08-10-2017, 06:14 PM
Easy one. If he hasn't already flipped, then it's Flynn.
Flynn has already.
djohn2oo8
08-10-2017, 06:14 PM
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:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
djohn2oo8
08-10-2017, 06:17 PM
So when is Trump going to jail? I thought it was Mueller time.
Sooner than Hillary...
https://media.giphy.com/media/gtakVlnStZUbe/giphy.gif
Thread
08-10-2017, 06:18 PM
895781847640059904
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
Real fuckin' funny. Sittin' there watching Joe & Meek and they bust your fuckin' Schlage steel door down.
djohn2oo8
08-10-2017, 06:23 PM
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Chris
08-10-2017, 06:23 PM
Sooner than Hillary...
https://media.giphy.com/media/gtakVlnStZUbe/giphy.gif
So tell me who got a plea deal from the Justice Department the other day? (hint: It wasn't Trump)
Chris
08-10-2017, 06:26 PM
So tell me who Jeffrey Yoshi is and what did he do with the Rooshans?
Pavlov
08-10-2017, 06:31 PM
So tell me who got a plea deal from the Justice Department the other day? (hint: It wasn't Trump)"There are no charges against you so plead guilty to these charges." :lmao
djohn2oo8
08-10-2017, 06:35 PM
Real fuckin' funny. Sittin' there watching Joe & Meek and they bust your fuckin' Schlage steel door down.
Glad to see you ain't just saying "fake news" anymore, sweetheart
So tell me who got a plea deal from the Justice Department the other day? (hint: It wasn't Trump)
Actually you dont know that either. You're literally going TSA on us and taking a 4chan post as legit.
djohn2oo8
08-10-2017, 06:36 PM
"There are no charges against you so plead guilty to these charges." :lmao
:lmao
florige
08-10-2017, 07:31 PM
Glad to see you ain't just saying "fake news" anymore, sweetheart
He is all pissy today for some reason.
Thread
08-10-2017, 07:37 PM
He is all pissy today for some reason.
I'm waitin' on 7 o'clock so I can turn my A/C back on. I'm a budget plan.
monosylab1k
08-10-2017, 07:48 PM
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/kdkd3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xdDA1Mw_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high
Blake
08-10-2017, 08:13 PM
I'm waitin' on 7 o'clock so I can turn my A/C back on. I'm a budget plan.
#Maga please Trump.... so cubby can turn his a/c on in the heat of the day
djohn2oo8
08-10-2017, 08:14 PM
That cumbucket thanked Putin for kicking out our diplomats.
Chris
08-10-2017, 08:24 PM
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Pavlov
08-10-2017, 08:28 PM
895749398885314561The FBI would need a warrant for that -- you know, like they had for your campaign manager. You should get used to the term "warrant."
djohn2oo8
08-10-2017, 08:36 PM
The FBI would need a warrant for that -- you know, like they had for your campaign manager. You should get used to the term "warrant."
:lol
Chris
08-10-2017, 08:37 PM
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Sean went nuclear :tu
djohn2oo8
08-10-2017, 08:40 PM
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Sean went nuclear :tu
Comey was a Republican. So is Mueller. Stupid fuck lol
djohn2oo8
08-10-2017, 08:42 PM
and :lmao thinking Trump is a Republican.
Chris
08-10-2017, 08:51 PM
Dems:
https://media.giphy.com/media/e0zNo1HqPknJK/giphy.gif
spurraider21
08-10-2017, 08:59 PM
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Sean went nuclear :tu
that's a lot of *Ding* going on
Chris
08-10-2017, 09:03 PM
that's a lot of *Ding* going on
Bend over, I'll show you the dong.
monosylab1k
08-10-2017, 09:04 PM
Trumptards:
https://media.giphy.com/media/e0zNo1HqPknJK/giphy.gif
Chris
08-10-2017, 09:07 PM
Trumptards:
https://media.giphy.com/media/e0zNo1HqPknJK/giphy.gif
"Don’t copy the behavior and customs of this world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. Then you will learn to know God’s will for you, which is good and pleasing and perfect."
-Romans 12:2
monosylab1k
08-10-2017, 09:08 PM
Bend over, I'll show you the dong.
"Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."
-Leviticus 18:22
Pavlov
08-10-2017, 09:11 PM
895790639367016448
Sean went nuclear :tuIt's as if we're the only ones colluding with the Russians!
Pavlov
08-10-2017, 09:12 PM
:lol Did Dale Jr. just try to chastise someone for copying?
Chris
08-10-2017, 09:19 PM
It's as if we're the only ones colluding with the Russians!
Oh yeah Dems are so squeaky clean in Pav world :tu
Trill Clinton
08-10-2017, 09:20 PM
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Pavlov
08-10-2017, 09:23 PM
Oh yeah Dems are so squeaky clean in Pav world :tuWhen it comes to colluding with Russian agents, it sure looks that way.
Do you have evidence to the contrary, Chris?
boutons_deux
08-10-2017, 09:33 PM
Obama’s Russia Ambassador Just Shredded Trump For Praising Putin’s Diplomat Expulsion
Obama, weighed in on Twitter (https://twitter.com/McFaul) – and he didn’t hold back.
He lambasted Trump for his insensitive and completely unpresidential comment in a 10-part tweet storm.
We’ve combined his tweets into one continuous monologue for your convenience.
“Trump just applauded cuts of 755 in Russian embassy. Maybe he should look to trim his own staff?“
You realize Mr. President that the State Dept organizes US delegations to [the Global Entrepreneurship Summit] — those same people you just said were not needed in Russia.
“Our diplomats, professional staff, and military serving in Russia provide Washington with invaluable information about Russia.
Imagine wanting to know less about Russia’s military modernization!
That’s what Trump praised today.
“Imagine wanting to know less about Russian foreign policy intentions and plans!
That’s what embassy personnel reductions will do.
“Imagine wanting to have less capability to gather data about dangerous transnational diseases originating in Russia!
Trump seems to want that.“Imagine dissing Americans —
patriots serving our country under difficult conditions in Russia —
to praise Putin.
Our president did today.”
http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/10/obamas-russia-ambassador-just-shredded-trump-praising-putins-diplomat-expulsion/
All y'all's lover boy Trash seems to think the expelled US diplomats were FIRED by Pootin! :lol
So Trash thinks he's saving lTHEIR SALARY money. His dumbfucked-ness is without limit.
Trash is TOTALLY compromised by BFF Pootin
Chris
08-10-2017, 09:40 PM
When it comes to colluding with Russian agents, it sure looks that way.
Do you have evidence to the contrary, Chris?
That whole uranium thingy and that Clinton Foundation thingy comes to mind. I'm sure there's a lot more info in those servers that the DNC refuses to give the FBI. Anyone that knows anything about it has either been shot or committed suicide. Squeaky clean right?
florige
08-10-2017, 09:42 PM
I'm waitin' on 7 o'clock so I can turn my A/C back on. I'm a budget plan.
I figured something was up. Usually you are he swept the floor with her lol
boutons_deux
08-10-2017, 09:57 PM
Senior State Department Officials Just Responded To Trump’s Praising Of Putin For Expelling Diplomats
“This is so incredibly demoralizing and disrespectful to people serving their country in harm’s way” said one senior diplomat.
Another diplomat was stunned at the news: “I kid you not, I have heard from three different people in the last five minutes. Everyone seems pretty amazed. This statement is naive and shortsighted. It sends a terrible signal to local employees everywhere.”
One diplomat spoke for the whole nation when he said incredulously: “THANK Putin? I don’t have words that are printable to describe my reaction.”
http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/10/senior-state-department-officials-just-responded-trumps-praising-putin-expelling-diplomats/
All y'all Trash and Pootin fellators SICK of WINNING, yet?
Pavlov
08-10-2017, 09:59 PM
That whole uranium thingy and that Clinton Foundation thingy comes to mind. I'm sure there's a lot more info in those servers that the DNC refuses to give the FBI. Anyone that knows anything about it has either been shot or committed suicide. Squeaky clean right?Explain the whole uranium thingy and that Clinton Foundation thingy for me, Chris. In your own words.
That cumbucket thanked Putin for kicking out our diplomats.
Putin 100% has dirt on this nigga. :lol
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This is what Fox has come down to doing now. :lol
I really hope that shit network keeps getting hit with lawsuits until they choke.
Thread
08-10-2017, 10:10 PM
Putin 100% has dirt on this nigga. :lol
Sure. The F.B.I. is now in it's 14 month digging for that dirt.
djohn2oo8
08-10-2017, 10:13 PM
Sure. The F.B.I. is now in it's 14 month digging for that dirt.
And a judge approved warrant(s)
Thread
08-10-2017, 10:14 PM
And a judge approved warrant(s)
Why should I give you light? When I was topsy and you were turvy you wouldn't even speak to me.
Shame on you, dj.
Chris
08-10-2017, 10:15 PM
Explain the whole uranium thingy and that Clinton Foundation thingy for me, Chris. In your own words.
Maybe tomorrow Pavy. Time for some PS3 tbh I'm still hacking away at RE6: can you believe it?
Pavlov
08-10-2017, 10:18 PM
Maybe tomorrow Pavy. Time for some PS3 tbh I'm still hacking away at RE6: can you believe it?I can believe you ducked a simple request again, certainly.
djohn2oo8
08-10-2017, 10:21 PM
Why should I give you light? When I was topsy and you were turvy you wouldn't even speak to me.
Shame on you, dj.
I don't care. You will be remembered on the wrong side of history.
Thread
08-10-2017, 10:26 PM
I don't care. You will be remembered on the wrong side of history.
Of course you don't care. You shit all over me because I won and you couldn't take it.
Now you want to engage because I'm of use to you. I provide a quality you can bang your shit off of and find genuine enjoyment because I'll give as well as take. & I will reinforce your beliefs at victori(es). When you were losing one after another I couldn't even get you to acknowledge my existence.
You ruin it, dj.
djohn2oo8
08-10-2017, 10:33 PM
Of course you don't care. You shit all over me because I won and you couldn't take it.
Now you want to engage because I'm of use to you. I provide a quality you can bang your shit off of and find genuine enjoyment because I'll give as well as take. & I will reinforce your beliefs at victori(es). When you were losing one after another I couldn't even get you to acknowledge my existence.
You ruin it, dj.
You won nothing. But you will lose it all. Having fun yet? Armed FBI agents coming for Trump. Lawd.
Adam Lambert
08-10-2017, 10:35 PM
lmao the motherfucker thanked putin.
thanked him
Chris
08-10-2017, 10:51 PM
I can believe you ducked a simple request again, certainly.
This should hold you over until tomorrow.
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djohn2oo8
08-10-2017, 10:54 PM
Damn..Chris can't even use his own words or make his own picture to explain his words.
Pavlov
08-10-2017, 10:54 PM
This should hold you over until tomorrow.
https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20767998_10154680899385896_7101472889710647753_n.j pg?oh=f9a8cd293327ee6a85b04f8b007b8df8&oe=5A2D02B4:lol pathetic posts.
Adam Lambert
08-10-2017, 10:54 PM
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baseline bum
08-10-2017, 11:04 PM
Maybe tomorrow Pavy. Time for some PS3 tbh I'm still hacking away at RE6: can you believe it?
:tu Even in 2017 the PS3 is still a pretty badass system. I originally bought one a few months ago basically just to play Demon's Souls and Okami but man this system has so many great exclusives and they're almost all cheap. Just got done playing Heavenly Sword a few minutes ago, pretty badass God of War clone. If you're still catching up on PS3 games Gamestop has a four games for $10 deal that covers a lot of the best PS3 games. Basically any game $4.99 or less is part of the deal, which includes a lot of the best PS3 games like The Last of Us, all three Uncharteds, the inFAMOUS games, and a lot of other really cool shit. Probably trying to clear out shelf space for all the used copies of Madden and FIFA they're about to get when the new ones come out soon. :lol
Thread
08-10-2017, 11:16 PM
lmao the motherfucker thanked putin.
thanked him
He's trollin' ya, Adam. "You" & Media both.
FuzzyLumpkins
08-10-2017, 11:18 PM
So when is Trump going to jail? I thought it was Mueller time.
Let's use some critical thinking skills.
THe Watergate Investigation lasted two years then Nixon resigned and Ford pardoned him before the end of the investigation. The Benghazi Attack occurred in 2012 and the GOP was still investigating it in 2016.
Mueller was named special investigator in May.
Do you need more help to figure it out?
Thread
08-10-2017, 11:20 PM
Let's use some critical thinking skills.
THe Watergate Investigation lasted two years then Nixon resigned and Ford pardoned him before the end of the investigation. The Benghazi Attack occurred in 2012 and the GOP was still investigating it in 2016.
Mueller was named special investigator in May.
Do you need more help to figure it out?
Sure:::Bill Clinton remains the lone duly elected U.S. President to ever be impeached.
Pavlov
08-10-2017, 11:23 PM
Sure:::Bill Clinton remains the lone duly elected U.S. President to ever be impeached.And how long did that investigation take?
FuzzyLumpkins
08-10-2017, 11:28 PM
Sure:::Bill Clinton remains the lone duly elected U.S. President to ever be impeached.
That took 4 years before failing in the Senate. Good example.
Pavlov
08-10-2017, 11:35 PM
That took 4 years before failing in the Senate. Good example.Four and a half if you count Fiske, which I do.
:tu Even in 2017 the PS3 is still a pretty badass system. I originally bought one a few months ago basically just to play Demon's Souls and Okami but man this system has so many great exclusives and they're almost all cheap. Just got done playing Heavenly Sword a few minutes ago, pretty badass God of War clone. If you're still catching up on PS3 games Gamestop has a four games for $10 deal that covers a lot of the best PS3 games. Basically any game $4.99 or less is part of the deal, which includes a lot of the best PS3 games like The Last of Us, all three Uncharteds, the inFAMOUS games, and a lot of other really cool shit. Probably trying to clear out shelf space for all the used copies of Madden and FIFA they're about to get when the new ones come out soon. :lol
Dude, you should probably get Playstation Now. They FINALLY Started adding PS4 games to the library aside from pretty much the full catalog of PS3 games.
Try it for a month to see if you like it enough to go full in. It's only 10 bucks.
They just added Killzone Shadow Falls. I'm about to play that shit later tonight.
I'm still sorting through the new PS4 games and adding them to my list. This was a neat surprised.
Chris
08-10-2017, 11:44 PM
:tu Even in 2017 the PS3 is still a pretty badass system. I originally bought one a few months ago basically just to play Demon's Souls and Okami but man this system has so many great exclusives and they're almost all cheap. Just got done playing Heavenly Sword a few minutes ago, pretty badass God of War clone. If you're still catching up on PS3 games Gamestop has a four games for $10 deal that covers a lot of the best PS3 games. Basically any game $4.99 or less is part of the deal, which includes a lot of the best PS3 games like The Last of Us, all three Uncharteds, the inFAMOUS games, and a lot of other really cool shit. Probably trying to clear out shelf space for all the used copies of Madden and FIFA they're about to get when the new ones come out soon. :lol
It still holds up quite well. I have F.E.A.R 2 & 3, Ghostbusters, Uncharted 2 and 3, God of War 3, Silent Hill 2 and 3 all waiting to be played unopened. My only complaint about the system is the shitty web browser. The library in insane and I'm proud to say I beat Demon's Souls with little to no help from IGN :lol
Chris
08-10-2017, 11:45 PM
Also I was going to mention the PSNow that Reck alluded to. I'm waiting for it to expand it's library before I pay another monthly fee.
Chris
08-10-2017, 11:53 PM
Let's use some critical thinking skills.
THe Watergate Investigation lasted two years then Nixon resigned and Ford pardoned him before the end of the investigation. The Benghazi Attack occurred in 2012 and the GOP was still investigating it in 2016.
Mueller was named special investigator in May.
Do you need more help to figure it out?
You can compare apples to oranges until the cows come home. Are you implying those cases give us a logical timetable to work with, or simply diverting yourself from the question. Where is the evidence of collusion and what crimes did Trump commit? How much jail time do you think he should serve?
Adam Lambert
08-10-2017, 11:55 PM
He's trollin' ya, Adam. "You" & Media both.
so presidential
Pavlov
08-10-2017, 11:57 PM
You can compare apples to oranges until the cows come home. Are you implying those cases give us a logical timetable to work with, or simply diverting yourself from the question. Where is the evidence of collusion and what crimes did Trump commit? How much jail time do you think he should serve?I can't speak for him but I've said many times before I'll give Mueller as much time as Fiske/Starr or Walsh to investigate whatever he needs. The way Trump's lawyers freaked out about the Manafort raid convinced me Bobby Three Sticks is on to something.
Chris
08-11-2017, 12:14 AM
I can't speak for him but I've said many times before I'll give Mueller as much time as Fiske/Starr or Walsh to investigate whatever he needs. The way Trump's lawyers freaked out about the Manafort raid convinced me Bobby Three Sticks is on to something.
That's reasonable, but Comey shitting his pants on TV under oath convinced me otherwise.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 12:16 AM
That's reasonable, but Comey shitting his pants on TV under oath convinced me otherwise.And what do you characterize as "shitting his pants"?
FuzzyLumpkins
08-11-2017, 12:25 AM
You can compare apples to oranges until the cows come home. Are you implying those cases give us a logical timetable to work with, or simply diverting yourself from the question. Where is the evidence of collusion and what crimes did Trump commit? How much jail time do you think he should serve?
So investigations into past presidents and their administrations is not comparable to an investigation into the current president and his administration? You deserve nothing but derisive laughter for that stupidity.
:rollin
Chris
08-11-2017, 12:31 AM
So investigations into past presidents and their administrations is not comparable to an investigation into the current president and his administration? You deserve nothing but derisive laughter for that stupidity.
:rollin
You sure like to dance around questions by putting words in my mouth. A typical Liberal :tu
Thread
08-11-2017, 12:35 AM
That took 4 years before failing in the Senate. Good example.
Still & all Bill Clinton was IMPEACHED.
Thread
08-11-2017, 12:36 AM
so presidential
Can't be any worse than gettin' you knob polished in the Oval Office while Hillary & daughter are upstairs sleepin'.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 12:37 AM
Still & all Bill Clinton was IMPEACHED.I'll give Bobby Three Sticks four and a half years. We'll see what shakes out.
Thread
08-11-2017, 12:37 AM
And how long did that investigation take?
It'd still be goin' on if that woman hadn't discovered all that cocksnot on that blue dress.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 12:38 AM
It'd still be goin' on if that woman hadn't discovered all that cocksnot on that blue dress.Actually it would've ended sooner in that case.
FuzzyLumpkins
08-11-2017, 12:39 AM
You sure like to dance around questions by putting words in my mouth. A typical Liberal :tu
Oh those shitty leading questions?
In December of 1972 GOPotards were saying the exact same thing about Nixon. I have no idea what the Mueller investigation has found. The nature of these investigations is that they do not reveal their findings. That does not mean anything will be found or that it has not already. There have been several ongoing grand juries and we only know what one of them is about.
If it's found that he was laundering money for the Russian in exchange for political favors and cash then he should be removed from office and prosecuted for money laundering and whatever that entails. I don't see the benefit to the country for prosecuting him for treason which of course includes the death penalty but there would be a case for it.
I'm interested to see how deep this rabbit hole goes.
And ffs the Trump Administration avoid answering questions to an absurd amount. Fox News anchors call them on it repeatedly.
Thread
08-11-2017, 12:40 AM
Oh those shitty leading questions?
In December of 1972 GOPotards were saying the exact same thing about Nixon. I have no idea what the Mueller investigation has found. The nature of these investigations is that they do not reveal their findings. That does not mean anything will be found or that it has not already. There have been several ongoing grand juries and we only know what one of them is about.
If it's found that he was laundering money for the Russian in exchange for political favors and cash then he should be removed from office and prosecuted for money laundering and whatever that entails. I don't see the benefit to the country for prosecuting him for treason which of course includes the death penalty but there would be a case for it.
I'm interested to see how deep this rabbit hole goes.
You forgot to "haaaaaaaaaaaruuuuuuumph."
FuzzyLumpkins
08-11-2017, 12:41 AM
You forgot to "haaaaaaaaaaaruuuuuuumph."
I don't speak old man, Bozo. Could you translate that for me?
Chris
08-11-2017, 12:49 AM
And what do you characterize as "shitting his pants"?
The memos. Leaking so he could prompt the appointment of a special counsel :lol Claiming that Trump demanded he let the Flynn investigation go and that Trump demanded loyalty. He perjured himself twice there. Ratting out Lynch and being "confused and concerned" for making the Clinton investigation a "matter". :lol Denouncing the bogus NYT article that started this whole Russia nonsense. It made for quality television.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 12:54 AM
The memos. Leaking so he could prompt the appointment of a special counsel :lol Claiming that Trump demanded he let the Flynn investigation go and that Trump demanded loyalty. He perjured himself twice there. Ratting out Lynch and being "confused and concerned" for making the Clinton investigation a "matter". :lol Denouncing the bogus NYT article that started this whole Russia nonsense. It made for quality television.:lol perjured twice? When is he going to be charged and convicted?
Sorry, counselor -- getting Mueller on board was next level stuff. Trump and company have been shitting their pants ever since.
Chris
08-11-2017, 01:00 AM
Oh those shitty leading questions?
In December of 1972 GOPotards were saying the exact same thing about Nixon. I have no idea what the Mueller investigation has found. The nature of these investigations is that they do not reveal their findings. That does not mean anything will be found or that it has not already. There have been several ongoing grand juries and we only know what one of them is about.
If it's found that he was laundering money for the Russian in exchange for political favors and cash then he should be removed from office and prosecuted for money laundering and whatever that entails. I don't see the benefit to the country for prosecuting him for treason which of course includes the death penalty but there would be a case for it.
I'm interested to see how deep this rabbit hole goes.
And ffs the Trump Administration avoid answering questions to an absurd amount. Fox News anchors call them on it repeatedly.
They were reasonable questions. I'm still calling it a witch hunt until I see some proof. Hillary laughing when asked about Benghazi under oath...Lynch and Lerner pleading the 5th to Congress...Cummings blowing a gasket :lol Doesn't look good for Clinton and the Democratic Party imo.
Chris
08-11-2017, 01:02 AM
:lol perjured twice? When is he going to be charged and convicted?
Sorry, counselor -- getting Mueller on board was next level stuff. Trump and company have been shitting their pants ever since.
Probably never, but the perjury is real and was substantiated by Trump's lawyer.
872877738478227457
Chris
08-11-2017, 01:03 AM
:lol perjured twice? When is he going to be charged and convicted?
Sorry, counselor -- getting Mueller on board was next level stuff. Trump and company have been shitting their pants ever since.
Mueller being involved is hilarious considering the enormous conflict of interest.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 01:06 AM
Probably never, but the perjury is real and was substantiated by Trump's lawyer.
872877738478227457:lmao The same dude who threatened a guy over the phone?
Mueller being involved is hilarious considering the enormous conflict of interest.:lol You're just a talking point bot tbh. You have no idea what you're talking about most of the time.
Chris
08-11-2017, 01:08 AM
873264508734767104
Chris
08-11-2017, 01:09 AM
:lmao The same dude who threatened a guy over the phone?
:lol You're just a talking point bot tbh. You have no idea what you're talking about most of the time.
Typical liberal mudslinging :lol Feelings over facts as usual. :jack
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 01:09 AM
873264508734767104Were his threats to a total stranger accurate?
Chris
08-11-2017, 01:11 AM
Were his threats to a total stranger accurate?
What does that have to do with anything? :lol
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 01:11 AM
Typical liberal mudslinging :lol Feelings over facts as usual. :jackNah, you dodged the uranium thingy and the Clinton Foundation thingy with a lame excuse about playing PS3 for 12 minutes.
So how about those thinigies?
Chris
08-11-2017, 01:12 AM
Nah, you dodged the uranium thingy and the Clinton Foundation thingy with a lame excuse about playing PS3 for 12 minutes.
So how about those thinigies?
Both are well documented. What are you having problems with specifically?
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 01:13 AM
Both are well documented. What are you having problems with specifically?Explain both thingies to me in your own words.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 01:23 AM
What does that have to do with anything? :lolWhat does that dudes emails have to do with convicting Comey for perjury?
Nothing.
Chris
08-11-2017, 01:33 AM
Clinton Foundation got money from Uranium One and failed to report it. They are not separate 'thingies'. Explain to me what Trump did with the Russians and why Mueller is not a conflict of interest in your own words please.
Chris
08-11-2017, 01:35 AM
What does that dudes emails have to do with convicting Comey for perjury?
Nothing.
So you're saying Comey didn't commit perjury?
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 01:52 AM
Clinton Foundation got money from Uranium One and failed to report it. They are not separate 'thingies'.You listed separate thingies and honestly you have presented different thingies in the past you probably forgot since you apparently just work off lists of talking points. What is the nationality of the Uranium One donor? I'd like to see his name.
Explain to me what Trump did with the Russians and why Mueller is not a conflict of interest in your own words please.We already have Trump's son, son-in-law and campaign manager actively attempting to collude with agents of the Russian government, so I'm perfectly fine with having them all investigated and letting that investigation lead wherever it may go.
And Mueller does not have a conflict of interest because standards addressing conflicts of interest in the DOJ have existed for decades, have been accepted by everyone who isn't a partisan hack who is scared shitless Mueller will find something.
If you think Trump has done nothing wrong, what are you afraid of?
djohn2oo8
08-11-2017, 06:04 AM
Mueller being involved is hilarious considering the enormous conflict of interest.
You really want to talk about conflicts of interests when Trump is using the Presidency to promore his businesses? :lmao
djohn2oo8
08-11-2017, 06:05 AM
895949642566914049
:lmao
boutons_deux
08-11-2017, 06:22 AM
Who is Rhona mentioned in Donald Trump Jr.'s emails?https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/11/who-is-rhona-mentioned-in-donald-trump-jr-s-emails.html
djohn2oo8
08-11-2017, 06:25 AM
You really want to talk about conflicts of interests when Trump is using the Presidency to promore his businesses? :lmao
Better yet Chris wants to talk about conflicts of interest when Trump fired the FBI director in charge of his investigation and now trying to fire Mueller.
baseline bum
08-11-2017, 06:29 AM
Dude, you should probably get Playstation Now. They FINALLY Started adding PS4 games to the library aside from pretty much the full catalog of PS3 games.
Try it for a month to see if you like it enough to go full in. It's only 10 bucks.
They just added Killzone Shadow Falls. I'm about to play that shit later tonight.
I'm still sorting through the new PS4 games and adding them to my list. This was a neat surprised.
I'm not spending a dollar on game streaming, I hope that shit dies off. Besides, all of the games on Playstation Now are shit I can just go buy really cheaply and own instead of rent. Killzone Shadow Fall is $7 at Gamestop.
Blake
08-11-2017, 08:37 AM
Bend over, I'll show you the dong.
"Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."
-Leviticus 18:22
:lol
Blake
08-11-2017, 08:40 AM
So you're saying Comey didn't commit perjury?
Are you saying he did? Prove it
RandomGuy
08-11-2017, 09:25 AM
I'd really like you to try and explain this exchange here and show how it makes any sense. If you can do so I will admit you are smarter than ducks and I will let you choose my avatar picture.
Here is your chance Reck, get all your ducks in a row and show the board you aren't the dunce it believes you to be. I am rooting for you to prove me wrong as this avatar is getting confusing when I'm conversing with RandomGuy.
I would like you to explain Trumps newest remarks.
Or answer the question:
Are Trumps statements on the forced reduction of Embassy staff in Moscow consistent with my theory?
But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest shit possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.
The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.
Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.
Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.
Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin
Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump
Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.
Fact 6:
Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.
Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way.
Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about. This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.
Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.
The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)
Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.
Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.
He may be stupid enough to fire Mueller if Mueller starts asking questions that will expose how he has been compromised.
If he does so, he will be impeached. The Republican party will have almost no choice at that point. Congress will find their spine, because they want to be re-elected, and Trump will have gone too far for all but the most jaded hacks.
"Trump warns of 'dangerous low' in Russia relations"
See Fact #3
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/03/politics/russia-us-trump-putin-sanctions/
This statement is consistent with the theory and was predicted by it.
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The veto-proof sanctions bill on Russia from Congress forced him to do something. His signing statement says that his administration will ignore or attempt to bypass as much as possible.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/text-of-statement-trump-made-while-signing-russian-sanctions-bill-2017-08-02
This action is consistent with the theory, and predicted by it.
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Trumps newest Russian statements go out of their way to be obsequious and servile.
“As far as I'm concerned I'm very thankful that he let go of a large number of people because now we have a smaller payroll,” Trump said at a briefing at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey on Thursday.
"We'll save a lot of money," he added.
:wow
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DarrinS
08-11-2017, 09:40 AM
:rolleyes
RandomGuy
08-11-2017, 09:48 AM
:rolleyes
I would like you to explain Trumps newest remarks.
Or answer the question:
Are Trumps statements on the forced reduction of Embassy staff in Moscow consistent with my theory?
But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest shit possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.
The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.
Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.
Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.
Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin
Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump
Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.
Fact 6:
Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.
Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way.
Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about. This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.
Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.
The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)
Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.
Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.
He may be stupid enough to fire Mueller if Mueller starts asking questions that will expose how he has been compromised.
If he does so, he will be impeached. The Republican party will have almost no choice at that point. Congress will find their spine, because they want to be re-elected, and Trump will have gone too far for all but the most jaded hacks.
"Trump warns of 'dangerous low' in Russia relations"
See Fact #3
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/03/politics/russia-us-trump-putin-sanctions/
This statement is consistent with the theory and was predicted by it.
---------------------------------------
The veto-proof sanctions bill on Russia from Congress forced him to do something. His signing statement says that his administration will ignore or attempt to bypass as much as possible.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/text-of-statement-trump-made-while-signing-russian-sanctions-bill-2017-08-02
This action is consistent with the theory, and predicted by it.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Trumps newest Russian statements go out of their way to be obsequious and servile.
“As far as I'm concerned I'm very thankful that he let go of a large number of people because now we have a smaller payroll,” Trump said at a briefing at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey on Thursday.
"We'll save a lot of money," he added.
:wow
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DarrinS
08-11-2017, 09:49 AM
Would've fit your theory if he said nothing, too. How convenient.
RandomGuy
08-11-2017, 09:51 AM
DarrinS you have seen me fighting bullshit conspiracy theories for over a decade here.
I fucking hate them with a blinding passion.
Do you really think I would buy into some bullshit theory? I went out of my way to make it simple, testable, and consistent with everything that we know. I don't have to base it on any one bit of information.
You want to roll your eyes, fine. Feel free to attempt to show me wrong. I would prefer not to believe a bullshit theory.
RandomGuy
08-11-2017, 09:52 AM
Would've fit your theory if he said nothing, too. How convenient.
(shrugs)
All he would have had to have done was simply stood up for the US.
He chose not to.
How convenient.
for Putin.
DarrinS
08-11-2017, 09:56 AM
DarrinS you have seen me fighting bullshit conspiracy theories for over a decade here.
I fucking hate them with a blinding passion.
Do you really think I would buy into some bullshit theory? I went out of my way to make it simple, testable, and consistent with everything that we know. I don't have to base it on any one bit of information.
You want to roll your eyes, fine. Feel free to attempt to show me wrong. I would prefer not to believe a bullshit theory.
It seems a person's willingness to fall for conspiracy depends on their level of hatred for current POTUS. Truthers were mostly people who hated Bush/Chaney.
RandomGuy
08-11-2017, 09:56 AM
:rolleyes
I have even given you the tools and method:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)
All you have to do to prove the theory wrong, is find one of these two things.
Go ahead. Even with our cell phone, you can search.
I'll wait.
DarrinS
08-11-2017, 09:57 AM
Trump signing sanctions not good enough.
RandomGuy
08-11-2017, 10:03 AM
Trump signing sanctions not good enough.
If Trump had vetoed it he would have been overridden, making him look weak. So he signed, because he was forced to.
Read Trumps signing statement:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/text-of-statement-trump-made-while-signing-russian-sanctions-bill-2017-08-02
Today, I have signed into law H.R. 3364, the “Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act.” While I favor tough measures to punish and deter aggressive and destabilizing behavior by Iran, North Korea, and Russia, this legislation is significantly flawed.
In its haste to pass this legislation, the Congress included a number of clearly unconstitutional provisions. For instance, although I share the policy views of sections 253 and 257, those provisions purport to displace the President’s exclusive constitutional authority to recognize foreign governments, including their territorial bounds, in conflict with the Supreme Court’s recent decision in Zivotofsky v. Kerry.
Additionally, section 216 seeks to grant the Congress the ability to change the law outside the constitutionally required process. The bill prescribes a review period that precludes the President from taking certain actions. Certain provisions in section 216, however, conflict with the Supreme Court’s decision in INS v. Chadha, because they purport to allow the Congress to extend the review period through procedures that do not satisfy the requirements for changing the law under Article I, section 7 of the Constitution. I nevertheless expect to honor the bill’s extended waiting periods to ensure that the Congress will have a full opportunity to avail itself of the bill’s review procedures.
Further, certain provisions, such as sections 254 and 257, purport to direct my subordinates in the executive branch to undertake certain diplomatic initiatives, in contravention of the President’s exclusive constitutional authority to determine the time, scope, and objectives of international negotiations. And other provisions, such as sections 104, 107, 222, 224, 227, 228, and 234, would require me to deny certain individuals entry into the United States, without an exception for the President’s responsibility to receive ambassadors under Article II, section 3 of the Constitution. My Administration will give careful and respectful consideration to the preferences expressed by the Congress in these various provisions and will implement them in a manner consistent with the President’s constitutional authority to conduct foreign relations.
Finally, my Administration particularly expects the Congress to refrain from using this flawed bill to hinder our important work with European allies to resolve the conflict in Ukraine, and from using it to hinder our efforts to address any unintended consequences it may have for American businesses, our friends, or our allies.”
He intends on ignoring as much as he can get away with.
if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.
Does this qualify as "dragging his feet" to you?
monosylab1k
08-11-2017, 10:09 AM
Trump signing sanctions not good enough.
He didn't have a fucking choice, and you know it. Do you honestly think he wouldn't have pursued a course to kill these sanctions if such a course was actually available to him?
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 10:09 AM
Really Darrin, can you explain the disconnect between threatening nuclear Armageddon over one Washington Post story and thanking Vladimir Putin for actual provocation?
DarrinS
08-11-2017, 10:18 AM
He didn't have a fucking choice, and you know it.
Not only did he sign those, he didn't revoke sanctions imposed under Obuma. He's a Pootin puppet. :lol
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 10:21 AM
Not only did he sign those, he didn't revoke sanctions imposed under Obuma. He's a Pootin puppet. :lol:lol Congress took away that power, Darrin. Keep trying tho. It's entertaining seeing you work so hard for Trump.
boutons_deux
08-11-2017, 10:22 AM
Sessions wont prosecute anybody violating Russian sanctions
Obama should have seized all property and financial accnts owned by Russians like USA did against Iran, and put all Russian banks on the Treasury's banned list which causes all financial institutions worldwide to do same in return salvo for Potin's cyberwar on USA.
monosylab1k
08-11-2017, 10:32 AM
Not only did he sign those, he didn't revoke sanctions imposed under Obuma. He's a Pootin puppet. :lol
I'll get you a towel.
Adam Lambert
08-11-2017, 10:37 AM
I'll get you a towel.
better get two. the super absorbent kind.
RandomGuy
08-11-2017, 10:41 AM
Not only did he sign those, he didn't revoke sanctions imposed under Obuma. He's a Pootin puppet. :lol
this legislation is significantly flawed.
In its haste
a number of clearly unconstitutional provisions.
in conflict with the Supreme Court’s recent decision...
outside the constitutionally required process...
onflict with the Supreme Court’s decision
procedures that do not satisfy the requirements for changing the law
in contravention of the President’s exclusive constitutional authority to
Finally, my Administration particularly expects the Congress to refrain from using this flawed bill to hinder our important work ...
hinder our efforts to address any unintended consequences it may have for American businesses, our friends, or our allies.”
DarrinS
08-11-2017, 10:46 AM
More effective than sanctions would be disabling USB storage on DNC servers.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 10:51 AM
DNC*ding*
DarrinS
08-11-2017, 10:51 AM
A leak and a phish -- obvious only Russia can pull that off.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 10:55 AM
A leak and a phish -- obvious only Russia can pull that off.Give us your evidence it was some other party, Darrin.
DarrinS
08-11-2017, 10:59 AM
Give us your evidence it was some other party, Darrin.
If I can't prove it was someone else, then it was obviously Russia. Pantsuit told us all 17 intelligence agencies have confirmed. :lol
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 11:00 AM
Pantsuit*ding*
Give us your evidence it was some other party, Darrin.
RandomGuy
08-11-2017, 11:53 AM
Really Darrin, can you explain the disconnect between threatening nuclear Armageddon over one Washington Post story and thanking Vladimir Putin for actual provocation?
As noted before, I can't be the only one to notice the pattern.
Someone else, probably a lot of someone elses in the intelligence community have noticed the same thing, and reached the same conclusion:
Donald Trump has been compromised by the Russians in some way.
I think it likely that there are some efforts underway in the intelligence community to find out exactly how. Whatever they find will result in some very delicate, discreet, and indirect hints to Mueller in his efforts. Nothing that would break the law, but Mueller will know exactly where to look.
At some point, after Trump has ceased being useful to the Russians, there is a really good chance this information will come out directly.
RandomGuy
08-11-2017, 12:00 PM
If I can't prove it was someone else, then it was obviously Russia. Pantsuit told us all 17 intelligence agencies have confirmed. :lol
You should read a bit more about Russian capabilities, viewpoints, and aims.
People who know vastly more about those things do not find this so funny, or implausible.
Why do you think that is?
Thread
08-11-2017, 12:02 PM
As noted before, I can't be the only one to notice the pattern.
Someone else, probably a lot of someone elses in the intelligence community have noticed the same thing, and reached the same conclusion:
Donald Trump has been compromised by the Russians in some way.
I think it likely that there are some efforts underway in the intelligence community to find out exactly how. Whatever they find will result in some very delicate, discreet, and indirect hints to Mueller in his efforts. Nothing that would break the law, but Mueller will know exactly where to look.
At some point, after Trump has ceased being useful to the Russians, there is a really good chance this information will come out directly.
In other words:::He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.
RandomGuy
08-11-2017, 12:24 PM
In other words:::He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.
*ding
DarrinS
08-11-2017, 12:42 PM
As noted before, I can't be the only one to notice the pattern.
Someone else, probably a lot of someone elses in the intelligence community have noticed the same thing, and reached the same conclusion:
Donald Trump has been compromised by the Russians in some way.
I think it likely that there are some efforts underway in the intelligence community to find out exactly how. Whatever they find will result in some very delicate, discreet, and indirect hints to Mueller in his efforts. Nothing that would break the law, but Mueller will know exactly where to look.
At some point, after Trump has ceased being useful to the Russians, there is a really good chance this information will come out directly.
Pee pee tape
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 12:43 PM
Pee pee tapeYou are certainly taking all the bodily fluids in the face defending your Dear Leader.
Chris
08-11-2017, 03:43 PM
well well well
Judicial Watch has filed a lawsuit against the Justice Department to obtain Comey's documents.
foxnews.com reports: Judicial Watch sued the Justice Department on Friday in an effort to obtain any non-disclosure agreements signed by former FBI Director James Comey.
The Freedom of Information Act lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, after the DOJ did not respond to the conservative watchdog's June 13 FOIA request. The group wants to see any such agreements in light of Comey's controversial decision to leak notes describing conversations with President Trump.
“How is it the FBI allowed Mr. Comey to walk out the door with sensitive documents about President Trump?” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said. “It is remarkable that we have to sue the FBI in federal court to get these answers about this scandal.”
In the lawsuit, Judicial Watch is seeking “any and all non-disclosure agreements pertaining in full or in part to the handling, storage, protection, dissemination, and/or return of classified and/or sensitive information that were signed by or on behalf of former FBI Director James Comey.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/11/judicial-watch-sues-justice-department-for-comey-documents.html
RandomGuy
08-11-2017, 03:46 PM
Pee pee tape
(sighs)
Quit being a stupid mother fucker.
I have said, more than once, it could be any one of a number of things, including possibly laundering money or simple bank loans.
I noticed you didn't answer my question.
RandomGuy
08-11-2017, 03:47 PM
:rolleyes
I would like you to explain Trumps newest remarks.
Or answer the question:
Are Trumps statements on the forced reduction of Embassy staff in Moscow consistent with my theory?
But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest shit possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.
The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.
Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.
Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.
Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin
Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump
Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.
Fact 6:
Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.
Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way.
Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about. This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.
Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.
The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)
Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.
Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.
He may be stupid enough to fire Mueller if Mueller starts asking questions that will expose how he has been compromised.
If he does so, he will be impeached. The Republican party will have almost no choice at that point. Congress will find their spine, because they want to be re-elected, and Trump will have gone too far for all but the most jaded hacks.
"Trump warns of 'dangerous low' in Russia relations"
See Fact #3
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/03/politics/russia-us-trump-putin-sanctions/
This statement is consistent with the theory and was predicted by it.
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The veto-proof sanctions bill on Russia from Congress forced him to do something. His signing statement says that his administration will ignore or attempt to bypass as much as possible.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/text-of-statement-trump-made-while-signing-russian-sanctions-bill-2017-08-02
This action is consistent with the theory, and predicted by it.
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Trumps newest Russian statements go out of their way to be obsequious and servile.
“As far as I'm concerned I'm very thankful that he let go of a large number of people because now we have a smaller payroll,” Trump said at a briefing at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey on Thursday.
"We'll save a lot of money," he added.
:wow
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RandomGuy
08-11-2017, 03:53 PM
If I can't prove it was someone else, then it was obviously Russia. Pantsuit told us all 17 intelligence agencies have confirmed. :lol
What is your stupid ass gonna say if this finally pans out?
You are going to look even more like a stupid shit than you do for continually denying climate change every year there is a new record set for hottest temperatures.
Pick the ground you want to rhetorically die on. Choose carefully, and think about what happens to people who trust Trump. Not a commander I would follow to war, he would grab your ass to use as a human shield if he thought it would save him, and you fucking know it.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 04:07 PM
well well well
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/11/judicial-watch-sues-justice-department-for-comey-documents.htmlWell well well what?
boutons_deux
08-11-2017, 04:21 PM
Trash's mahouts are now claiming Trash, when thanking BFF financier Pootin for "firing" US embassy people, was being sarcastic, or joking.
boutons_deux
08-11-2017, 04:33 PM
https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1650507548375626/
SnakeBoy
08-11-2017, 04:51 PM
Not a commander I would follow to war, he would grab your ass to use as a human shield if he thought it would save him, and you fucking know it.
Should the troops in Syria refuse to follow orders?
well well well
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/11/judicial-watch-sues-justice-department-for-comey-documents.html
Well this is a waste of time. Those documents are classified.
They're not gonna let a bunch of butthurt conservatives get a hold of these documents because they filed a silly lawsuit.
Well this is a waste of time. Those documents are classified.
They're not gonna let a bunch of butthurt conservatives get a hold of these documents because they filed a silly lawsuit.
Judicial Watch gets a hold of classified documents all the time.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 05:02 PM
Judicial Watch gets a hold of classified documents all the time.If they get them this way they aren't classified.
boutons_deux
08-11-2017, 05:16 PM
How Trash laundered for Pootin's people
https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1620922294667485/
Chris
08-11-2017, 05:27 PM
Well this is a waste of time. Those documents are classified.
They're not gonna let a bunch of butthurt conservatives get a hold of these documents because they filed a silly lawsuit.
Judicial Watch gets a hold of classified documents all the time.
welp :lol
Chris
08-11-2017, 05:33 PM
GW Law Professor Calls Manafort Warrant Excessive, ‘Very Troubling’
George Washington University Law Professor Jonathan Turley said Friday that the no-knock FBI warrant executed on former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort’s home was “excessive” and “very troubling.”
“I actually think people are a little bit too thrilled to see [a] Trump associate subject to a no-knock warrant. I’ve been a critic of no-knock warrants for years,” Turley said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “It’s very troubling. I think it was gratuitous, I think it was excessive.”
Turley added that no-knock warrants are usually reserved for violent offenders or drug traffickers. “It is not the norm to have a no-knock warrant in a white collar crime case. No-knock warrants were designed primarily for dangerous drug dealers,” he said.
“Federal judges have completely refused to carry out their duty to restrict this. I mean what did they think he was going to do? Try to flush his laptop down the toilet or meet them at the door with a Glock?” Turley asked.
MSNBC host Joe Scarborough pushed back, saying it’s impossible to know for certain if the raid was gratuitous. Turley responded that the issue wasn’t with the validity of the warrant, but rather with the manner in which it was carried out.
“The point is there there was no basis, it’s excessive, to do the no-knock. To come barging in, pre-dawn as if he’s a physical danger or he would destroy evidence,” Turley replied.
“Do you think he’s going to start swallowing thumb drives? All they have to do is knock on the door, if he doesn’t open it they take the door down. The point is this seemed to be a bit gratuitous in showing up at his bedroom door on a no-knock,” Turley said.
“This may be a small point but many of us on the civil liberties side have been arguing against no-knocks for years,” he concluded.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/11/gw-law-professor-calls-manafort-warrant-excessive-very-troubling/
Chris
08-11-2017, 05:39 PM
Rep. Brian Babin (R-TX) is demanding Special Investigator Robert Mueller appear at a public congressional hearing
From The Daily Caller:
Texas Republican Rep. Brian Babin is asking for congressmen to sign onto a letter requesting that special counsel Robert Mueller appear publicly in a congressional hearing, The Daily Caller has learned.
Mueller, who is investigating Russian election interference and possible ties between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign, has come under intense criticism from allies of President Donald Trump for hiring attorneys who have donated to Democratic candidates and for his personal relationship with former FBI Director James Comey. Trump himself has called Mueller’s employment of Democratic donors “ridiculous,” yet he maintains that he has no plans to dismiss the special counsel.
Babin’s letter, which was obtained by TheDC, was sent out to congressmen Thursday and asks for members to cosign a letter he plans to send to House Judiciary chairman Bob Goodlatte and Senate Judiciary chairman Chuck Grassley.
“Every nominee for United States Attorney must be confirmed by the Senate, a process that brings to the forefront any concerns regarding the nominee’s ability to hold their position in a decent and impartial manner. However, as Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III and his team of lawyers investigate our very own president, we as a nation wait in the dark with very little information about those given this great authority,” Babin wrote in the letter to his fellow representatives.
Babin writes in the letter that there are “serious concerns” about conflicts of interest with regard to members of Mueller’s counsel who donated “generously” to Democrats or even represented Clinton herself.
“In addition, this investigation has the potential to drag on for months, or even years, and cost millions in taxpayer dollars,” Babin added.
Babin’s goal is to have one or both of the judiciary committees “bring Mr. Mueller and his team out of the shadows” to answer questions about the “potential expenses incurred by Mr. Mueller, the scope of his investigation and the selection of his special council team.”
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/11/exclusive-congressman-circulates-letter-to-ask-for-mueller-to-appear-in-public-congressional-hearing/
:ihit
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 05:43 PM
Rep. Brian Babin (R-TX) is demanding Special Investigator Robert Mueller appear at a public congressional hearing
:ihitIf Trump did nothing wrong, what are you all worried about?
If they get them this way they aren't classified.
welp :lol
Welp x2
If you could sue the governmnent for classified material, a lot of people would be doing it. Doesn't work that way.
I have a feeling TSA was talking about the Clinton Emails which the DOJ was set to release in time anyways as those were official state department records. No one sues the government for classified infomation and gets it.
Chris
08-11-2017, 05:44 PM
If Trump did nothing wrong, what are you all worried about?
A deep state coup of course.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 05:47 PM
A deep state coup of course.Walk us through how that would happen, Chris. It's such a big concern of yours, tell us how a deep state coup would play out.
Chris
08-11-2017, 05:51 PM
Walk us through how that would happen, Chris. It's such a big concern of yours, tell us how a deep state coup would play out.
Ask Chuckie "Six Ways to Sunday" Schumer :tu
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 05:55 PM
Ask Chuckie "Six Ways to Sunday" Schumer :tuI'm asking you, Chris. It's such a big concern of yours, tell us how a deep state coup would play out.
Welp x2
If you could sue the governmnent for classified material, a lot of people would be doing it. Doesn't work that way.
I have a feeling TSA was talking about the Clinton Emails which the DOJ was set to release in time anyways as those were official state department records. No one sues the government for classified infomation and gets it.
Judicial Watch gets a hold of classified documents all the time. The classified portions are redacted.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 05:59 PM
Judicial Watch gets a hold of classified documents all the time. The classified portions are redacted.So what they get isn't classified.
Walk us through how that would happen, Chris. It's such a big concern of yours, tell us how a deep state coup would play out.
“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,”
We are currently watching it play out.
Judicial Watch gets a hold of classified documents all the time. The classified portions are redacted.
If they are redacted, then they aren't reading the classified portion which they are seeking to start with so what's the point?
You're going on a technicality here. Yeah they get it, but all the pertinent information they're seeking is blacked out. :lol
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 06:02 PM
“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,”
We are currently watching it play out.Walk us through how that would happen, TSA. It's such a big concern of yours, tell us how a deep state coup would play out.
If they are redacted, then they aren't reading the classified portion which they are seeking to start with so what's the point?
You're going on a technicality here. Yeah they get it, but all the pertinent information they're seeking is blacked out. :lol
There is usually still a lot of information to be gathered from the documents, unless they black out and redact the whole page :lol
Chris
08-11-2017, 06:19 PM
I'm asking you, Chris. It's such a big concern of yours, tell us how a deep state coup would play out.
Have a campaign of leaks designed to discourage and distract the American population. Have holdovers from the Obama administration raise as much hell as possible. Obstruct. Obstruct. Obstruct. Resist or block all executive orders ie: "Anti-Muslim travel ban" "Anti-Immigrant Border Wall" "Anti-Human Healthcare" Have Hollywood and Media push the anti-Trump narrative. Assassinate his character. Claim he's unfit to serve because of mental deficiencies. Impeach.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 06:21 PM
Have a campaign of leaks designed to discourage and distract the American population. Have holdovers from the Obama administration raise as much hell as possible. Obstruct. Obstruct. Obstruct. Resist or block all executive orders ie: "Anti-Muslim travel ban" "Anti-Immigrant Border Wall" "Anti-Human Healthcare" Have Hollywood and Media push the anti-Trump narrative. Assassinate his character. Claim he's unfit to server because of mental deficiencies. Impeach.Impeach on what grounds?
Change a couple of names for the rest and you have the GOP playbook from the previous eight years.
Chris
08-11-2017, 06:30 PM
Impeach on what grounds?
Change a couple of names for the rest and you have the GOP playbook from the previous eight years.
Technically not impeached, but removed from office. This would require Pence and at least two thirds of Congress I believe. You could also impeach, if you were able to prove Trump was guilty of “Treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors”. In that case he could still be acquitted by the Senate.
Chris
08-11-2017, 06:32 PM
Or you could go the old fashioned way...
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationalenquirer.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F11%2Fkennedy-assassination-lee-harvey-oswald-jfk-conspiracy-6.jpg&f=1
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdonmooreswartales.files.wordpress .com%2F2013%2F11%2Fo-lee-harvey-oswald-facebook.jpg&f=1
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 06:32 PM
Technically not impeached, but removed from office. This would require Pence and at least two thirds of Congress I believe. You could also impeach, if you were able to prove Trump was guilty of “Treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors”. In that case if could still be acquitted by the Senate.So Pence and all the members of Congress are deep state?
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 06:33 PM
Or you could go the old fashioned way...
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationalenquirer.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F11%2Fkennedy-assassination-lee-harvey-oswald-jfk-conspiracy-6.jpg&f=1
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdonmooreswartales.files.wordpress .com%2F2013%2F11%2Fo-lee-harvey-oswald-facebook.jpg&f=1Oh, what is your theory about the JFK assassination?
Blake
08-11-2017, 06:35 PM
Oh, what is your theory about the JFK assassination?
I bet I can guess
Chris
08-11-2017, 06:36 PM
So Pence and all the members of Congress are deep state?
Are you saying they can't be coerced to play ball under threat?
Blake
08-11-2017, 06:37 PM
Are you saying they can't be coerced to play ball under threat?
Oh a question to avoid answering the question
Chris
08-11-2017, 06:40 PM
There were witnesses. (JFK) They all died under mysterious circumstances (http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKdeaths.htm) just like today. Warren Commission = 911 Commission it's a fucking joke :lol They do what they want.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 06:48 PM
Are you saying they can't be coerced to play ball under threat?What threat applies to Pence and every member of Congress?
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 06:49 PM
There were witnesses. (JFK) They all died under mysterious circumstances (http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKdeaths.htm) just like today. Warren Commission = 911 Commission it's a fucking joke :lol They do what they want.So what do you say really happened on 11/22/1963?
What do you say really happened on 9/11/2001?
CosmicCowboy
08-11-2017, 06:50 PM
Oh, what is your theory about the JFK assassination?
LBJ
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 06:51 PM
LBJIs that your theory? Explain it to me.
Chris
08-11-2017, 06:53 PM
What threat applies to Pence and every member of Congress?
Any threat you can imagine.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 06:54 PM
Any threat you can imagine.Nope, you'll have to do better than that. You're the one saying this is happening.
Thread
08-11-2017, 06:54 PM
There were witnesses. (JFK) They all died under mysterious circumstances (http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKdeaths.htm) just like today. Warren Commission = 911 Commission it's a fucking joke :lol They do what they want.
I thought that was malarkey till I read the death roll. It's incredible.
Chris
08-11-2017, 06:56 PM
So what do you say really happened on 11/22/1963?
What do you say really happened on 9/11/2001?
JFK was going to end the Federal Banking system and was killed by the CIA.
9/11 served its purpose as a false flag to draw us into a never-ending war on terror in the Middle East.
I have a simple 2 part question for you. Where did the thermite come from, and why did we ship the rubble overseas so it couldn't be examined?
Chris
08-11-2017, 06:58 PM
I thought that was malarkey till I read the death roll. It's incredible.
My teacher in 11th grade showed us a rare video with camera footage of an interview from the 60's with a witness who saw 2 men in suits with rifles shooting at the motorcade. She died like a week later in an 'accident'. I wish I could find it now.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 06:59 PM
JFK was going to end the Federal Banking system and was killed by the CIA.lol no.
9/11 served its purpose as a false flag to draw us into a never-ending war on terror in the Middle East.lol no.
I have a simple 2 part question for you. Where did the thermite come from, and why did we ship the rubble overseas so it couldn't be examined?:lmao thermite.
Ima bump the cosmo thread so you walk me through the whole 9/11 conspiracy. If I can find a JFK one I'll do the same.
Thread
08-11-2017, 07:02 PM
My teacher in 11th grade showed us a rare video with camera footage of an interview from the 60's with a witness who saw 2 men in suits with rifles shooting at the motorcade. She died like a week later in an 'accident'. I wish I could find it now.
& the correlation twixt Lincoln's assassination & Kennedy is another stunner. I thought it too was horseshit till I read it.
Chris
08-11-2017, 07:02 PM
:lmao thermite.
If that's your answer -it's chickenshit, and I will not engage you further.
Pavlov
08-11-2017, 07:05 PM
If that's your answer -it's chickenshit, and I will not engage you further.There was no thermite. That's my answer. Incoming Fetzer.
baseline bum
08-11-2017, 07:13 PM
My teacher in 11th grade showed us a rare video with camera footage of an interview from the 60's with a witness who saw 2 men in suits with rifles shooting at the motorcade. She died like a week later in an 'accident'. I wish I could find it now.
Where were they shooting from?
Blake
08-11-2017, 07:58 PM
My teacher in 11th grade showed us a rare video with camera footage of an interview from the 60's with a witness who saw 2 men in suits with rifles shooting at the motorcade. She died like a week later in an 'accident'. I wish I could find it now.
Wait, your teacher died in an "accident"?
Lol wut
Chris
08-11-2017, 08:16 PM
Where were they shooting from?
the Grassy knoll
spurraider21
08-11-2017, 08:17 PM
Wait, your teacher died in an "accident"?
Lol wut
reading comp fail
DarrinS
08-11-2017, 08:29 PM
the Grassy knoll
I'm pretty sure he was shot by the leftist, Lee Harvey Oswald, from the book depository.
baseline bum
08-11-2017, 08:39 PM
the Grassy knoll
I don't see it, his head movement backwards from the killshot is consistent with being shot from behind by Oswald.
AaronY
08-11-2017, 08:39 PM
Darren blames liberalism of course
AaronY
08-11-2017, 08:40 PM
Lol Darrin thats commitment to a schtick there buddy
Blake
08-11-2017, 08:42 PM
reading comp fail
Yeah.
But coming from Chris. .
I'm pretty sure he was shot by the leftist, Lee Harvey Oswald, from the book depository.
TSA come here. This is exactly what I was talking about. :lol
:cry it's all the lefties fault.
TSA come here. This is exactly what I was talking about. :lol
:cry it's all the lefties fault.
:lol that's a terrible example
:lol that's a terrible example
How is that a terrible example when he enbodies what we're talking about?
Your semen shielding can only be matched by your stupidity and obvious disregard for reality. :lol
How is that a terrible example when he enbodies what we're talking about?
Your semen shielding can only be matched by your stupidity and obvious disregard for reality. :lol
That wasn't example of snowflake behavior. I don't think you understand what the term means.
I don't think you understand what the term means.
Saying this even though I gave you the definition on another thread. :lol
Darrins enbodies what a snowflake is. Either you haven't been paying attention or you are letting it slide because he's your politicial bro. :lol TSA
Chris
08-11-2017, 09:14 PM
Found her, but I had her confused with Mona B. Saenz who died in the bus 'accident'. Clemons I believe died of natural causes.
Acquilla Clemons
http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKclemonsA.jpg
Acquilla Clemons lived on the north side of Tenth Street in Dallas. On 22nd November, 1963, Clemons was sitting on the porch of her house when she saw Officer J. D. Tippit killed.
Afterwards she claimed that there were two men involved in the attack on Tippit. She later testified in a television documentary that the gunman was a "short guy and kind of heavy". The other man was tall and thin in khaki trousers and a white shirt. She also claimed that Dallas Police warned her not to repeat this story to others or "she might get hurt".
Anthony Summers, the author of The Kennedy Conspiracy (1980): "Obviously, Mrs. Clemons should have been questioned more thoroughly than in a television interview. She said she had been visited by the FBI, who decided not to take a statement because of her poor health. Mrs. Clemons suffered from diabetes, hardly a condition to deter efficient investigators from taking a statement. According to two reporters, who visited Mrs. Clemons several years after the assassination, she and her family still spoke with conviction of seeing two men at the scene of the Tippit shooting. Mrs. Clemons' story finds corroboration from another witness, and he too was ignored."
Acquilla Clemons was not called to give evidence to the Warren Commission.
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Chris
08-11-2017, 09:17 PM
I don't see it, his head movement backwards from the killshot is consistent with being shot from behind by Oswald.
check this out when you have time. it's actually quite short
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/harper.htm
DarrinS
08-11-2017, 09:19 PM
TSA come here. This is exactly what I was talking about. :lol
:cry it's all the lefties fault.
Lee Harvey was right wing?
spurraider21
08-11-2017, 09:25 PM
Darren blames liberalism of course
hes obviously just trolling the libcucks
way to get baited/triggered
Lee Harvey was right wing?
Was he a liberal?
Let me guess...you once saw it on a meme and immidiately went with it?
http://www.snopes.com/democrat-shooters-list/
Scroll scroll...:lol
spurraider21
08-11-2017, 09:30 PM
its irrelevant... smh
DarrinS
08-11-2017, 09:34 PM
Was he a liberal?
Let me guess...you once saw it on a meme and immidiately went with it?
http://www.snopes.com/democrat-shooters-list/
Scroll scroll...:lol
Was Lee Harvey right wing?
Was Lee Harvey right wing?
But you were the one who called him a lefty so why are you asking me something I didn't even asked in the first place. I provided a link.
DarrinS
08-11-2017, 09:39 PM
But you were the one who called him a lefty so why are you asking me something I didn't even asked in the first place. I provided a link.
Lee Harvey was a leftist communist. No link required.
Lee Harvey was a leftist communist. No link required.
Alternate facts reality. Kellyann is proud of you.
DarrinS
08-11-2017, 10:04 PM
Alternate facts reality. Kellyann is proud of you.
Wtf are you talking about?
FuzzyLumpkins
08-11-2017, 11:22 PM
Well the GOPotards have done well derailing this thread into conspiracy stupidity.
I like how he believes that government accounts of JFK and 9/11 and the Russia investigations are all conspiracies. All we need is some Holocaust denial and it will be complete.
DarrinS
08-11-2017, 11:27 PM
Well the GOPotards have done well derailing this thread into conspiracy stupidity.
I like how he believes that government accounts of JFK and 9/11 and the Russia investigations are all conspiracies. All we need is some Holocaust denial and it will be complete.
I don't believe JFK and 9/11 are conspiracies. Who are you talking about?
FuzzyLumpkins
08-11-2017, 11:29 PM
I don't belieHFK and 9/11 are conspiracies. Who are you talking about?
Not everything is about you, dim. Read the thread and look for the guy who brought up thermite and the whole JFK think. I'll give you a hint, the account has a 5 letter name.
Chris
08-12-2017, 12:06 AM
I'll give you a hint, the account has a 4 letter name.
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F31.media.tumblr.com%2F0599f9f43ce 4de923ed02e4129c1b142%2Ftumblr_inline_n1z8l1HyVO1s 5t39u.gif&f=1
FuzzyLumpkins
08-12-2017, 02:18 AM
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F31.media.tumblr.com%2F0599f9f43ce 4de923ed02e4129c1b142%2Ftumblr_inline_n1z8l1HyVO1s 5t39u.gif&f=1
Fixed it.
Curious, how often do you listen to Alex Jones?
AaronY
08-12-2017, 07:03 AM
hes obviously just trolling the libcucks
way to get baited/triggered
https://media.tenor.com/images/e78e5ab0e70aebb16241ac35ad7c776f/tenor.gif
djohn2oo8
08-12-2017, 09:21 AM
Is Chris really trying to equate JFK's murder and Trump being a fucking con artist criminal as the same conspiracy?
djohn2oo8
08-12-2017, 10:38 AM
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AaronY
08-12-2017, 10:56 AM
Oh no! Income tax evasion! That's what they got Capone on!
RIP Trump
djohn2oo8
08-12-2017, 02:36 PM
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djohn2oo8
08-12-2017, 02:37 PM
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djohn2oo8
08-12-2017, 02:38 PM
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djohn2oo8
08-12-2017, 02:40 PM
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Pavlov
08-12-2017, 06:29 PM
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896410173828468738Man, you can feel the noose tightening around the Democrats' necks -- right, TSA?
spurraider21
08-12-2017, 07:30 PM
Man, you can feel the noose tightening around the Democrats' necks -- right, TSA?
damn, all signs pointing to susan rice being executed for the MAJOR unmasking scandal that the msm refuses to cover
Chris
08-12-2017, 07:42 PM
Mueller wants this. Mueller wants that. Mueller in the basement with a baseball bat.
djohn2oo8
08-12-2017, 07:47 PM
Mueller wants this. Mueller wants that. Mueller in the basement with a baseball bat.
Mueller with 16 prosecutors, subpoena power, armed FBI agents. Ya ass scurred aint ya boy?
RandomGuy
08-14-2017, 04:33 PM
896407793800032258
Priebus... the one who just got fired?
I am going to guess the President Golfy McVroom Vroom isn't going to inspire a lot of loyalty. The amount of arm twisting that it would take to get people to roll over on him would be slightly higher than the amount it would take someone to condemn Hitler.
RandomGuy
08-14-2017, 04:34 PM
Man, you can feel the noose tightening around the Democrats' necks -- right, TSA?
:lol
DUN DUN DUN!!
"but her emails"
RandomGuy
08-14-2017, 04:39 PM
:rolleyes
I would like you to explain Trumps newest remarks.
Or answer the question:
Are Trumps statements on the forced reduction of Embassy staff in Moscow consistent with my theory?
But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest shit possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.
The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.
Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.
Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.
Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin
Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump
Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.
Fact 6:
Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.
Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way.
Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about. This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.
Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.
The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)
Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.
Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.
He may be stupid enough to fire Mueller if Mueller starts asking questions that will expose how he has been compromised.
If he does so, he will be impeached. The Republican party will have almost no choice at that point. Congress will find their spine, because they want to be re-elected, and Trump will have gone too far for all but the most jaded hacks.
"Trump warns of 'dangerous low' in Russia relations"
See Fact #3
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/03/politics/russia-us-trump-putin-sanctions/
This statement is consistent with the theory and was predicted by it.
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The veto-proof sanctions bill on Russia from Congress forced him to do something. His signing statement says that his administration will ignore or attempt to bypass as much as possible.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/text-of-statement-trump-made-while-signing-russian-sanctions-bill-2017-08-02
This action is consistent with the theory, and predicted by it.
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Trumps newest Russian statements go out of their way to be obsequious and servile.
“As far as I'm concerned I'm very thankful that he let go of a large number of people because now we have a smaller payroll,” Trump said at a briefing at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey on Thursday.
"We'll save a lot of money," he added.
:wow
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