Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[pgardn]

That article says that collusion cases are hard to prove and that other charges are already provable given the evidence we know.

What you fail to grasp is that all the tweeting is the media digesting new information as it is revealed. This is not remotely the full scope of the investigation. The FBI may have other evidence that proves more than obstruction and conspiracy.

But the other evidence can be ferreted out if one realizes collusion is not a crime. And what you fail to realize is The author is attempting to set parameters on what might and might not be relevant to the president actually committing any sort of crime (conspiracy to commit or hide a crime; obstruction of justice) that he might be charged with. This is outside the political realm and is important. So when the tweeting does start, one might slap it in TSA's face and mark the chalk board, but it might be totally outside any real legal ramifications; As has happened throughout this thread but not always. There are some gems.

And of course we don't know what the Justice Dept. has (Mueller specifically) They have been mostly leak free and the leaks that have occurred could be purposeful.But the article trims down what the Justice Dept needs to have quite nicely based on what has been presented so far.

[djohn2oo8]

Psst. Everyone had access to the emails in July. No super secretey decryption key needed. :lol

So why lie about the meeting being about adoptions? Jesus Darrin dumb as a box of rocks.

[djohn2oo8]

Darrin still missing the point. Stolen information was sent directly to Trump and Jr.

[djohn2oo8]

Oh and the fact that JR said there was no follow up email.
:lmao Darrin.

[DarrinS]

Darrin still missing the point. Stolen information was sent directly to Trump and Jr.

So what

[pgardn]

Darrin still missing the point. Stolen information was sent directly to Trump and Jr.

Stolen information is also sent to the press.

And helps bring down people like Manafort.

[djohn2oo8]

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Lordy!

[TSA]

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What is the importance of this djohn?

[DarrinS]

lol, djohn :cry

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/10/17/remember-its-illegal-to-possess-wikileaks-clinton-emails-but-its-different-for-the-media-says-cnns-chris-cuomo/?utm_term=.a6223ee7e0ac

[TSA]

Judge recuses in Michael Flynn case

President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, will face a different judge to be sentenced than the one who took Flynn’s guilty plea to a felony false statement charge last week, court records show.

Judge Emmet Sullivan was randomly assigned to take over the case after Judge Rudolph Contreras recused himself.

A court spokeswoman confirmed to POLITICO that the reassignment was due to Contreras' recusal, but said the court generally does not disclose the reason that a judge begged off the case.

Sullivan is an appointee of President Bill Clinton, and Contreras was appointed by President Barack Obama.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/07/michael-flynn-judge-sentencing-287001
spurraider21 I know you aren't an FISC expert but in your experience is it common for judges to recuse themselves and when they do what are some typical reasons?

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s incriminating tweet obscures the facts surrounding an even more important story

The More Important Story

The media focus on Trump’s tweet has obscured the key facts underlying Flynn’s guilty plea, and Trump has no incentive to help the public see those facts clearly.





In late December 2016 (https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download), Trump’s national security adviser-designate Mike Flynn — in consultation with a senior official of the Trump transition team later identified as K. T. McFarland — spoke to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about newly imposed US sanctions for election interference. Flynn’s mission was to persuade Kislyak that the Trump administration would reward Putin for a restrained response, and he succeeded.
After his phone call with Kislyak (https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download), Flynn “spoke with senior members of the presidential transition team about [his] conversations with the Russian ambassador regarding the US sanctions and Russia’s decision not to escalate.” We don’t know if Flynn’s conversations included Vice President-elect Mike Pence, but Pence was chairman of the transition team.
On Jan. 24, 2017, four days after the inauguration, the FBI interviewed Flynn (https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download). He lied, adhering to the White House line that Pence had established: Flynn’s discussion with Kislyak “had nothing whatsoever to do with those sanctions.”
On Jan. 26, 2017, Acting Attorney General Sally Yates told White House counsel Don McGahn (https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4668716/sally-yates-warned-white-general-flynn-could-blackmailed) that Flynn had lied to the vice president about his conversation with Kislyak and that US intelligence — and the Russians — considered him a blackmail risk.
On Jan. 27, Trump invited FBI Director James Comey to dinner (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/us/politics/trump-comey-firing.html) in the White House and asked for Comey’s “loyalty.”
For more than two weeks, Flynn remained in the nation’s most sensitive national security post until The Washington Post broke the story (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-department-warned-white-house-that-flynn-could-be-vulnerable-to-russian-blackmail-officials-say/2017/02/13/fc5dab88-f228-11e6-8d72-263470bf0401_story.html) about Yates’ warning to McGahn.




Then Trump and the White House said that Flynn was fired because he had lied to Pence about his conversations with Ambassador Kislyak.


Properly considered, Trump’s tweet should bring into clear view the

enduring theme of the Trump-Russia investigation:

When facing questions related to Russia,

Team Trump answers with lies —

sometimes layers and layers of them.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/trumps-incriminating-tweet-obscures-the-facts-surrounding-an-even-more-important-story/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Easy to imagine that without WaPo breaking the Yates-McGroin story, Flynn would still be NSA.

Why have, are Trash and his mafiya constantly lying about Russia connections, Wikileaks?

[TSA]

lol, djohn :cry

Preet Bharara has a different take on what Michael Flynn’s plea deal means for Trump
A former US attorney doesn’t think the light charge against Flynn necessarily means he’s singing like a bird to Mueller.

When Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to one count of lying to the FBI and agreed to cooperate with Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation on Friday, many legal experts thought they knew what that meant.

“We know from public reports that Flynn has a ton of criminal exposure, and yet he’s pleading guilty to a relatively minor crime,” Savannah Law School professor Andy Wright told my colleague Sean Illing. “I’m confident Flynn is singing like a bird to Mueller.” (Eight other law professors made similar arguments to Illing.)

Not so sure: Preet Bharara, the former US attorney for the Southern District of New York who was fired by President Trump earlier this year.

On the latest episode of his podcast, “Stay Tuned With Preet,” Bharara says he isn’t convinced that Flynn has gotten “a sweetheart deal of a lifetime” in exchange for hugely important cooperation.

“I don’t know that I believe that,” Bharara said.

In particular, Bharara disputes the common argument that the relatively light charge against Flynn (one false statements count) clearly shows he must have agreed to provide especially valuable information to Mueller’s investigation. (Flynn’s clearly offering some information, but the question is just how important it will be.)

Bharara refers to his own experience supervising similar high-profile investigations and prosecutions. “When we had evidence against somebody and wanted them to flip, we made them plead guilty to every bad act that they had ever done,” Bharara said. “Especially if we were later gonna be alleging other people had engaged in that activity as well.”

Doing that, Bharara argues, makes a witness like Flynn more credible in court if he has to testify against someone else. “Otherwise, the only thing the jury will know for a fact about your witness is that he is an admitted, convicted liar,” he said.

So what does Bharara think could be going on? One possibility, he suggests, is that Mueller doesn’t have anything else on Flynn that might stand up in court: “People need to really consider the possibility that this might be it.”

But Bharara also suggests another scenario: that Mueller is “holding back on other charges to which Michael Flynn will plead guilty if and when they form the basis of charging some other folks.”

That is — certain potential charges against Flynn could implicate others in Trump’s orbit as well, and Mueller’s team just isn’t ready to make those charges yet (and might never be).

This case, of course, could be rather different than Bharara’s own past prosecutions. For one, Mueller’s potential endgame might be an impeachment referral rather than a high-profile court trial. Additionally, Mueller could be concerned about Trump’s pardon power — perhaps he’s holding off on some potential charges against Flynn so he could bring them later, in case of a pardon.

But since Bharara is experienced in this field — and no fan of Trump — it’s worth listening to his analysis for a more skeptical take on just how bad Flynn’s plea might be for the president.

https://www.vox.com/2017/12/5/16735480/michael-flynn-plea-preet-bharara

[Reck]

939199160020099072

I thought she was supposed to be close to Trump?

Abandon ship!

[boutons_deux]

Preet gave TSA and Hannity simultaneous orgasms.

[Pavlov]

lol, djohn :cry

Preet Bharara has a different take on what Michael Flynn’s plea deal means for Trump
A former US attorney doesn’t think the light charge against Flynn necessarily means he’s singing like a bird to Mueller.

When Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to one count of lying to the FBI and agreed to cooperate with Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation on Friday, many legal experts thought they knew what that meant.

“We know from public reports that Flynn has a ton of criminal exposure, and yet he’s pleading guilty to a relatively minor crime,” Savannah Law School professor Andy Wright told my colleague Sean Illing. “I’m confident Flynn is singing like a bird to Mueller.” (Eight other law professors made similar arguments to Illing.)

Not so sure: Preet Bharara, the former US attorney for the Southern District of New York who was fired by President Trump earlier this year.

On the latest episode of his podcast, “Stay Tuned With Preet,” Bharara says he isn’t convinced that Flynn has gotten “a sweetheart deal of a lifetime” in exchange for hugely important cooperation.

“I don’t know that I believe that,” Bharara said.

In particular, Bharara disputes the common argument that the relatively light charge against Flynn (one false statements count) clearly shows he must have agreed to provide especially valuable information to Mueller’s investigation. (Flynn’s clearly offering some information, but the question is just how important it will be.)

Bharara refers to his own experience supervising similar high-profile investigations and prosecutions. “When we had evidence against somebody and wanted them to flip, we made them plead guilty to every bad act that they had ever done,” Bharara said. “Especially if we were later gonna be alleging other people had engaged in that activity as well.”

Doing that, Bharara argues, makes a witness like Flynn more credible in court if he has to testify against someone else. “Otherwise, the only thing the jury will know for a fact about your witness is that he is an admitted, convicted liar,” he said.

So what does Bharara think could be going on? One possibility, he suggests, is that Mueller doesn’t have anything else on Flynn that might stand up in court: “People need to really consider the possibility that this might be it.”

But Bharara also suggests another scenario: that Mueller is “holding back on other charges to which Michael Flynn will plead guilty if and when they form the basis of charging some other folks.”

That is — certain potential charges against Flynn could implicate others in Trump’s orbit as well, and Mueller’s team just isn’t ready to make those charges yet (and might never be).

This case, of course, could be rather different than Bharara’s own past prosecutions. For one, Mueller’s potential endgame might be an impeachment referral rather than a high-profile court trial. Additionally, Mueller could be concerned about Trump’s pardon power — perhaps he’s holding off on some potential charges against Flynn so he could bring them later, in case of a pardon.

But since Bharara is experienced in this field — and no fan of Trump — it’s worth listening to his analysis for a more skeptical take on just how bad Flynn’s plea might be for the president.

https://www.vox.com/2017/12/5/16735480/michael-flynn-plea-preet-bhararaDid you read the whole article?


:lol

[DisAsTerBot]

Did you read the whole article?


:lol

Looks like he only read the first and last paragraph

[Reck]

TSA who always is on Djohns case for "only reading" twitter headers doesn't read past a title himself. :lmao

[Reck]

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Low level George. :lol TSA

[FuzzyLumpkins]

But the other evidence can be ferreted out if one realizes collusion is not a crime. And what you fail to realize is The author is attempting to set parameters on what might and might not be relevant to the president actually committing any sort of crime (conspiracy to commit or hide a crime; obstruction of justice) that he might be charged with. This is outside the political realm and is important. So when the tweeting does start, one might slap it in TSA's face and mark the chalk board, but it might be totally outside any real legal ramifications; As has happened throughout this thread but not always. There are some gems.

And of course we don't know what the Justice Dept. has (Mueller specifically) They have been mostly leak free and the leaks that have occurred could be purposeful.But the article trims down what the Justice Dept needs to have quite nicely based on what has been presented so far.

Some collusion is a crime. The issue here is that the criminal collusion applicable is difficult to prove. You just fail to understand the distinction.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Someone explain to me why it would be in a defendant's interest to take a deal where they are being charged with everything as opposed to fighting being charged with everything. One sees the defendant facing the maximum possible penalty no matter what whereas the other there is a chance to get less.

I have never understood the rationale that unless they throw the book at the defendant that means they have nothing.

[pgardn]

Some collusion is a crime. The issue here is that the criminal collusion applicable is difficult to prove. You just fail to understand the distinction.

Collusion is not anywhere in any statute of any law concerning what exactly can be charged.
Collusion leads to other criminal acts that are in the statutes. This is what you fail to understand.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Collusion is not anywhere in any statute of any law concerning what exactly can be charged.
Collusion leads to other criminal acts that are in the statutes. This is what you fail to understand.

It is in antitrust and other litigation.

Collusion is the omnibus term for the various laws that they are being accused of like conspiracy, wire fraud, hacking, election fraud, and international espionage. If you want to argue over semantics then great but all of them do fit the term collusion as they all involve their interactions with Russia and other states/agencies.

[pgardn]

It is in antitrust and other litigation.

Collusion is the omnibus term for the various laws that they are being accused of like conspiracy, wire fraud, hacking, election fraud, and international espionage. If you want to argue over semantics then great but all of them do fit the term collusion as they all involve their interactions with Russia and other states/agencies.

Like I said.

Collusion is not a statute in the books.
You got that straight. I did not know this before reading the article.

And we have a president who has already carried out some of the most bizarre actions and set so many unprededented presidential actions that to bring him down is going to require great specificity. Which is what you failed to see the article had in mind, but refer to as, just semantics...

The author is attempting to discuss what Trump cannot, can or may be charged with that is law in the statutes. It's important.

[Splits]

is it common for judges to recuse themselves and when they do what are some typical reasons?


Supreme Court justices recused themselves 180 times in most recent term

BY DEBRA CASSENS WEISS (http://www.abajournal.com/authors/4/)
POSTED JULY 12, 2016, 8:30 AM CDT

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/supreme_court_justices_recused_themselves_180_time s_in_most_recent_term/

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Like I said.

Collusion is not a statute in the books.
You got that straight. I did not know this before reading the article.

And we have a president who has already carried out some of the most bizarre actions and set so many unprededented presidential actions that to bring him down is going to require great specificity. Which is what you failed to see the article had in mind, but refer to as, just semantics...

Collusion is in several federal statutes.

If Mueller starts serving indictments to grand juries that do not reduce the charges into the relevant statutes then it's an issue. In regular discourse there is nothing wrong with using the omnibus term.

[spurraider21]

Judge recuses in Michael Flynn case

President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, will face a different judge to be sentenced than the one who took Flynn’s guilty plea to a felony false statement charge last week, court records show.

Judge Emmet Sullivan was randomly assigned to take over the case after Judge Rudolph Contreras recused himself.

A court spokeswoman confirmed to POLITICO that the reassignment was due to Contreras' recusal, but said the court generally does not disclose the reason that a judge begged off the case.

Sullivan is an appointee of President Bill Clinton, and Contreras was appointed by President Barack Obama.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/07/michael-flynn-judge-sentencing-287001
spurraider21 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) I know you aren't an FISC expert but in your experience is it common for judges to recuse themselves and when they do what are some typical reasons?
No clue about commonality tbh. Especially in a fisc context. Conflict on interest, past dealings, etc are common reasons off top of my head. I externed for a judge who had to disclose an old case he worked on like 30 years ago with defendant company. It was so far removed that the parties agreed to waive it
to

[boutons_deux]

Russian media report confirms cyber attack on US election

Rachel Maddow shares the details of a Russian media report

that explains that the reason Russian intelligence cyber experts were arrested for treason a year ago is

that they were the sources that helped the U.S. figure out who was responsible for the DNC hack.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/russian-media-report-confirms-cyber-attack-on-us-election-1112059972001?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/russian-media-report-confirms-cyber-attack-on-us-election-1112059972001?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma)

Pootin says it wasn't him, :lol and BFF Trash says he had no help. :lol

[Chris]

_J92Z8cp4JQ

[djohn2oo8]

lol, djohn :cry

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/10/17/remember-its-illegal-to-possess-wikileaks-clinton-emails-but-its-different-for-the-media-says-cnns-chris-cuomo/?utm_term=.a6223ee7e0ac

So you believe the Washington post now? You said they were fake news Darrin. Make up your mind.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

939211196854652929

[Chris]

Here comes the tax 'prepaprer' - big booms & Trump is going down :lol

[dabom]

Boom X6.

[Pavlov]

Chris triggered again.

[dabom]

Here comes the tax 'prepaprer' - big booms & Trump is going down :lol

Learn how to spell faggot. :lmao

[dabom]

I thought the guy that said boom was ya guys. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Jesus Chris that was terrible spelling.

[Chris]

Learn how to spell faggot. :lmao


Jesus Chris that was terrible spelling.

Dumb & Dumber ^ :lmao

[dabom]

Chris, we know I'm smarter than you. :lol

That's a fact of life. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Dumb & Dumber ^ :lmao

Thinking Steve Bannen is a real account. :lmao

[dabom]

Thinking Steve Bannen is a real account. :lmao

He doesn't even know the name of who he's batting for. :lol

[TSA]

Did you read the whole article?


:lol

Sure did.

[TSA]

Supreme Court justices recused themselves 180 times in most recent term

BY DEBRA CASSENS WEISS
POSTED JULY 12, 2016, 8:30 AM CDT

http://www.abajournal.com/news/artic...t_recent_term/

Thanks.

Now can you find how often FISC judges recuse themselves?

[TSA]

No clue about commonality tbh. Especially in a fisc context. Conflict on interest, past dealings, etc are common reasons off top of my head. I externed for a judge who had to disclose an old case he worked on like 30 years ago with defendant company. It was so far removed that the parties agreed to waive it
to

thanks

[FuzzyLumpkins]

TSA furiously cooking up a conspiracy theory based on wishcasting once more.

[pgardn]

Collusion is in several federal statutes.

If Mueller starts serving indictments to grand juries that do not reduce the charges into the relevant statutes then it's an issue. In regular discourse there is nothing wrong with using the omnibus term.

Which the article was attempting to discuss and point out that this is very important. And why any prosecutor, even one as thorough as Mueller, might be hamstrung.

[TSA]

_J92Z8cp4JQ

938954055732232192

:tu

[pgardn]

Some collusion is a crime. The issue here is that the criminal collusion applicable is difficult to prove. You just fail to understand the distinction.

So this is not true?

There is not a statute that refers to criminal collusion. There is no crime of collusion.”



Where are vy and Spurraider? Is this wrong?

[djohn2oo8]

So this is not true?

There is not a statute that refers to criminal collusion. There is no crime of collusion.”



Where are vy and Spurraider? Is this wrong?

Its conspiracy told you a while ago.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao :lmao :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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[Pavlov]

Sure did.So you see it's not as much of a yuge deal as you proclaim it to be.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So this is not true?

There is not a statute that refers to criminal collusion. There is no crime of collusion.”



Where are vy and Spurraider? Is this wrong?

Price fixing, bid rigging, and other forms of collusion are illegal and are subject to criminal prosecution by the Antitrust Division of the United States Department of Justice.

https://www.justice.gov/atr/price-fixing-bid-rigging-and-market-allocation-schemes

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Which the article was attempting to discuss and point out that this is very important. And why any prosecutor, even one as thorough as Mueller, might be hamstrung.

There is no evidence Mueller isn't doing that. All you are doing is whinging about the media's word choice

[AaronY]

939247732308529153
:lmao :lmao :lmao
I know this is like really serious stuff but what do you guys think of this Hope Hicks chick looks wise? She's pretty hot, huh? Guys on the right go crazy over her she is good looking but a maybe a little overrated

[djohn2oo8]

939257061686247424

[Splits]

I know this is like really serious stuff but what do you guys think of this Hope Hicks chick looks wise? She's pretty hot, huh? Guys on the right go crazy over her she is good looking but a maybe a little overrated

fat

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

So you see it's not as much of a yuge deal as you proclaim it to be.

:lol wtf
how did I claim it to be some huge deal?

If I had selectively edited the article you might have a point but I didn't. The only one trying to make this a huge deal is you and your bringing it up in other threads.

[AaronY]

:lol wtf
how did I claim it to be some huge deal?

If I had selectively edited the article you might have a point but I didn't. The only one trying to make this a huge deal is you and your bringing it up in other threads.
Whats your thoughts on Hope Hicks? not bad huh. Also full MAGA affected in the brain and whatnot

[Chris]

Whats your thoughts on Hope Hicks? not bad huh. Also full MAGA affected in the brain and whatnot

Quality take from pedobearaaron :jack

[TSA]

Whats your thoughts on Hope Hicks? not bad huh. Also full MAGA affected in the brain and whatnot

On the .gov chick scale I'd give her an 8

[Chris]

Mueller's 'Right-Hand Man' on Russia Probe Represented Clinton IT Aide Who Set Up Unsecure Server

https://static.pjmedia.com/trending/user-content/51/files/2017/12/AP_17257810882377.sized-770x415xt.jpg


Yet another key member of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe appears to have deep ties to the Democratic Party.

Aaron Zebley served previously as Mueller’s chief of staff at the FBI and as a senior counselor in the National Security Division at the Department of Justice. He also served as an assistant U.S. attorney in the National Security and Terrorism Unit in Alexandria, Virginia.

He is often referred to in the media as Mueller's "right-hand man."

Also, in 2015 when he was a lawyer, he represented Justin Cooper, the IT staffer who personally set up Hillary Clinton's unsecure server in her Chappaqua home, Fox News' Tucker Carlson revealed on his show Thursday.

Cooper, it so happens, is also the aide who destroyed Clinton's old BlackBerries with a hammer.

Documents obtained by Fox News show that Senate investigators grew frustrated with Zebley after being repeatedly stonewalled when they were trying to set up a meeting with Cooper.

"Mr. Zebley telephoned Homeland Security [Committee] staff to inform them that Cooper had chosen to cancel the interview," the documents said.

In a letter to Cooper, congressional investigators complained: "We are troubled by your attorney's [referring to Zebley] complete refusal to engage the committee in a discussion about how to further assuage your concerns."

Let this sink in. The same attorney who played a defensive role for Hillary Clinton was tapped by Mueller in June to play an offensive role against Clinton opponent Trump.

But Zebley isn't the only questionable hire. Out of a team of fifteen lawyers, nine of them have donated to Democratic candidates. None of them seem to have Republican leanings.

Jeannie Rhee, who was hired by Mueller last summer to work on the probe, was the personal attorney of Ben Rhodes and also represented the Clinton Foundation, Fox News' Laura Ingraham reported on Wednesday.

Two other members of the team have been revealed as blatantly partisan in recent days as well — Peter Strzok, an anti-Trumper who helped exonerate Hillary Clinton, and Andrew Weissmann, an unscrupulous prosecutor who told outgoing acting Attorney General Sally Yates in an email that he was "proud" of her for defying President Trump's travel ban.

"Why would Mueller hire an obvious Democratic partisan for a politically sensitive job like this?" Tucker Carson asked Rep Steve King, (R-IA) on his show Thursday night.

"This whole thing screams of conflict of interest," King replied. He told Carlson that a congressmen asked FBI Director Christopher Wray during the judiciary committee hearing Thursday whether being pro-Clinton was a prerequisite for getting on his team. "It looks like every single one of them's a Clinton partisan," he said.

"What's so grotesque and ironic about it is the whole point of the independent counsel statute is to reassure the public that the investigation is above politics. That's why it's taken out of the hands of the DOJ leadership!" Tucker exclaimed. "So you'd think Mueller would go out of his way to make certain that no one on his team could be accused of partisanship, and yet almost all of them seem to have ties to the Democrat Party," he lamented.

pb9zjrSL-Ho

On top of all this, Fox News' James Rosen reported on Thursday that a senior Justice Department official was demoted this week amid an investigation into his contacts with the shady opposition research firm Fusion GPS.

It will probably take years for President Trump to drain this cesspool.

[TSA]

The witch hunt is slowly unraveling day by day.

Justice Dept. lawyer who met with dubious Trump dossier author to be hauled before Congress

The House Intelligence Committee plans to compel testimony from a career Justice Department attorney who met during the election campaign with the writer of the infamous unverified Trump-Russia dossier.

The committee has learned that Bruce Ohr, an associate attorney general, not only spoke with dossier writer Christopher Steele but also met after the election with Glenn Simpson, whose Fusion GPS hired Mr. Steele with Democratic Party money.

“Pursuant to the House Intelligence Committee’s prior subpoenas and information requests, the Department of Justice should have provided the committee with information on contacts that DOJ official Bruce Ohr had with Fusion GPS representatives and Christopher Steele.,” said committee chairman Devin Nunes, California Republican. “The Committee will issue a subpoena to Bruce Ohr for information on this matter.”

The committee is investigating Fusion’s financial arrangements, including the reasons for paying three journalists. It was Mr. Nunes’ first subpoena for Fusion bank records that forced Democrats to admit that the party and Hillary Clinton campaign paid for the dossier beginning in June 2016.

The dossier has taken on immense importance. The FBI relied on it in July 2016 to begin an investigation into the Trump campaign and any collusion with Russia over the hacking of Democratic Party computers. It relied on the dossier to obtain at least one eavesdropping warrant on a Trump associate.

The dossier contains salacious material and allegations of collusion against President Trump and his people, with Russia. None of those charges has been confirmed publicly.

Republicans have labeled the dossier a piece of fiction and demanded the FBI disclosed publicly how it was used to investigate Mr. Trump.

The top FBI agent over seeing the probe was Peter Strzok. He was removed last summer by Special Counsel Robert Mueller after investigators discovered he was sending anti-Trump pro-Hillary Clinton text messages to his lover

Republicans believe Mr. Strzok must have played a big role in getting the FBI to embrace the dossier.

Fox News first reported the Ohr subpoena. Fox said Mr. Ohr wore two hats at Justice. He led a drug enforcement task force and was a close aide to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. He has relinquished the latter role, Fox said.

The Ohr investigation adds to suspicions among Republicans that a “deep state” of anti-Trump current and former federal officials have worked to sabotage Mr. Trump as candidate, president elect and president.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/7/bruce-ohr-who-met-dossier-author-christopher-steel/

[TSA]

Chris

[TSA]

Is there an honest liberal on this board willing to admit what a fucking joke this has all become?

[djohn2oo8]

Is there an honest liberal on this board willing to admit what a fucking joke this has all become?

What have you been right about?

[Chris]

The committee is investigating Fusion’s financial arrangements, including the reasons for paying three journalists. It was Mr. Nunes’ first subpoena for Fusion bank records that forced Democrats to admit that the party and Hillary Clinton campaign paid for the dossier beginning in June 2016.

YUGE.

[Pavlov]

Is there an honest liberal on this board willing to admit what a fucking joke this has all become?

What are you accusing Mueller of, TSA?

Spit it out.

[Chris]

The Washington Times reported that Republican Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz just called on Attorney General Jeff Sessions to investigate Clinton and hold her accountable to the same level of scrutiny as Donald Trump.

“We have got to find out what’s going to be done to clean up the deep state that’s discrediting the rule of law in this country, giving special treatment to liberal Democrats like Hillary Clinton, and then having just this merciless prosecution of the president,” Gaetz said on Fox News.

Gaetz, who is a member of the House Judiciary Committee, has long been calling for an investigation into Clinton. Over the summer, he proposed an amendment requesting documents from Mr. Sessions about the firing of former FBI Director James B. Comey and his role in clearing Clinton of wrongdoing.

“We’d like to see the attorney general step up and apply the same standard of justice to Hillary Clinton that seems to be applied to the president,” Gaetz said.
“Four months have passed since 20 members of the House Judiciary Committee demanded a special counsel to investigate Hillary Clinton. No action from the Department of Justice has been taken,” Gaetz lamented. “As members of the Judiciary Committee, we have demanded an investigation into the FBI’s procedures, practices, oversight and reporting. If biased agents have tainted evidence, we need to see it. If politically-interested prosecutors have an agenda, we need to know it. If our government institutions are being undermined by the deep state, we must expose it.”

https://media.giphy.com/media/rl0FOxdz7CcxO/giphy.gif

[Pavlov]

The Washington Times reported that Republican Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz just called on Attorney General Jeff Sessions to investigate Clinton and hold her accountable to the same level of scrutiny as Donald Trump.

“We have got to find out what’s going to be done to clean up the deep state that’s discrediting the rule of law in this country, giving special treatment to liberal Democrats like Hillary Clinton, and then having just this merciless prosecution of the president,” Gaetz said on Fox News.

Gaetz, who is a member of the House Judiciary Committee, has long been calling for an investigation into Clinton. Over the summer, he proposed an amendment requesting documents from Mr. Sessions about the firing of former FBI Director James B. Comey and his role in clearing Clinton of wrongdoing.

“We’d like to see the attorney general step up and apply the same standard of justice to Hillary Clinton that seems to be applied to the president,” Gaetz said.
“Four months have passed since 20 members of the House Judiciary Committee demanded a special counsel to investigate Hillary Clinton. No action from the Department of Justice has been taken,” Gaetz lamented. “As members of the Judiciary Committee, we have demanded an investigation into the FBI’s procedures, practices, oversight and reporting. If biased agents have tainted evidence, we need to see it. If politically-interested prosecutors have an agenda, we need to know it. If our government institutions are being undermined by the deep state, we must expose it.”

https://media.giphy.com/media/rl0FOxdz7CcxO/giphy.gif
Why isn't the house investigating Clinton, Chris?

[Spurminator]

TSA is asking for honest people, guys.

[djohn2oo8]

Why isn't the house investigating Clinton, Chris?

:lmao

[Chris]

Why isn't the house investigating Clinton, Chris?

If you bothered to read the paragraph you would have the answer to your question in the last sentence Pavlov.

[djohn2oo8]

If you bothered to read the paragraph you would have the answer to your question in the last sentence Pavlov.

Where is the Hillary investigation?

[Chris]

Where is the Hillary investigation?

Why don't you call Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III and ask him djohn?

[Splits]

lol washingtontimes.com
lol dailycaller.com

what's next, infowars, ar15 and reddit?

[Spurminator]

Why don't you call Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III and ask him djohn?

Makes false claim.
Called on false claim.
Demands poster contact the US Attorney General to verify claim.

:lmao

[TSA]

What are you accusing Mueller of, TSA?

Spit it out.

I've accused Mueller of nothing, his team on the other hand...

[AaronY]

Makes false claim.
Called on false claim.
Demands poster contact the US Attorney General to verify claim.

:lmao


Chris let me help you buddy...dont worry i got this


























































































































take that spurminator!

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and lest you go getting chesty dont you worry theres plenty more where that came from

[Chris]

Makes false claim.
Called on false claim.
Demands poster contact the US Attorney General to verify claim.

:lmao

You're completely lost. :lol Stick to upstairs :tu

[Reck]

The Washington Times reported that Republican Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz just called on Attorney General Jeff Sessions to investigate Clinton and hold her accountable to the same level of scrutiny as Donald Trump.

“We have got to find out what’s going to be done to clean up the deep state that’s discrediting the rule of law in this country, giving special treatment to liberal Democrats like Hillary Clinton, and then having just this merciless prosecution of the president,” Gaetz said on Fox News.

Gaetz, who is a member of the House Judiciary Committee, has long been calling for an investigation into Clinton. Over the summer, he proposed an amendment requesting documents from Mr. Sessions about the firing of former FBI Director James B. Comey and his role in clearing Clinton of wrongdoing.

“We’d like to see the attorney general step up and apply the same standard of justice to Hillary Clinton that seems to be applied to the president,” Gaetz said.
“Four months have passed since 20 members of the House Judiciary Committee demanded a special counsel to investigate Hillary Clinton. No action from the Department of Justice has been taken,” Gaetz lamented. “As members of the Judiciary Committee, we have demanded an investigation into the FBI’s procedures, practices, oversight and reporting. If biased agents have tainted evidence, we need to see it. If politically-interested prosecutors have an agenda, we need to know it. If our government institutions are being undermined by the deep state, we must expose it.”

https://media.giphy.com/media/rl0FOxdz7CcxO/giphy.gif

Umm I seem to recall (:lol recall) Jim Jordan getting dunked on in public by Sessions when he demanded she be investigated again.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgf_n5ZifKU

What's changed, Chris?

[TSA]

TSA is asking for honest people, guys.

You're one of the honest ones. Do you see the huge conflict of interest with Stryok?

[TSA]

lol washingtontimes.com
lol dailycaller.com

what's next, infowars, ar15 and reddit?

What would be a suitable link Splits? This isn't some fringe news.

[Chris]

What's changed, Chris?

Have you been hiding under a rock? :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Why don't you call Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III and ask him djohn?

I'm asking you

[Chris]

I'm asking you

Why do you assume I have that kind of information djohn? You're asking for absolutes on hypotheticals...did you learn that from Pavlov?

[Reck]

Have you been hiding under a rock? :lol

Why dont you elaborate.

[Pavlov]

If you bothered to read the paragraph you would have the answer to your question in the last sentence Pavlov.So the house just quit?

OK.

[djohn2oo8]

Why do you assume I have that kind of information djohn? You're asking for absolutes on hypotheticals...did you learn that from Pavlov?

I don't assume you have any knowledge of anything.

[Chris]

I don't assume you have any knowledge of anything.

Then don't ask me any more questions you dotard :lol

[dabom]

Then don't ask me any more questions you dotard :lol

Just noting that Chris confirmed he doesn't know anything.

[djohn2oo8]

Then don't ask me any more questions you dotard :lol

Then don't post shit else about an investigation that no longer exists on Hillary dummy.

[Chris]

Then don't post shit else about an investigation that no longer exists on Hillary dummy.

I'll post what I like tyvm. Not my fault you get triggered so easily :lol

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25158320_1030656873741689_2656166068048156550_n.pn g?oh=9de8e37053b335a506d6b0a197cff068&oe=5A88E656

[djohn2oo8]

I'll post what I like tyvm. Not my fault you get triggered so easily :lol

So if you post what you like, where is her investigation?

[djohn2oo8]

doesn't make sense to post about things that don't exist, Chris.

[pgardn]

Price fixing, bid rigging, and other forms of collusion are illegal and are subject to criminal prosecution by the Antitrust Division of the United States Department of Justice.

https://www.justice.gov/atr/price-fixing-bid-rigging-and-market-allocation-schemes

Under other statutes that are criminal.

Which is the crux of the authors argument.
It's a very skinny world Trump is balancing on. And partially because he is president. You and I could be in big trouble. Letting the public know Mueller is not all powerful is important. Some really specific crap is going to have to be proved with someone so stubborn. If Trump was Nixon, he might not have resigned even if ordering break ins. That's scary. The actual temperament and what a president is willing to go through can keep him in office even if an ordinary citizen would be jailed, even with good lawyers.

[pgardn]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25158320_1030656873741689_2656166068048156550_n.pn g?oh=9de8e37053b335a506d6b0a197cff068&oe=5A88E656

My god you got to find stuff better than this.
its awful...

[Chris]

From The Daily Caller: We learned this week that while Mueller has been stonewalling Congress, he has been protecting a corrupted FBI Agent—his lead investigator Peter Strzok—the same agent who helped craft Director Comey’s exoneration of Mrs. Clinton and conducted her “interview” with the FBI shortly after Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s infamous tarmac meeting with Bill Clinton. Agent Strzok was actually fired months ago for text messages with his mistress revealing his disdain for President Trump. Agent Strzok is the agent responsible for interviewing retired General Flynn and is under investigation himself by the Inspector General for his role in the Clinton email “investigation.”... An email obtained through the efforts of Judicial Watch revealed his applause for former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates and her refusal to enforce President’s Trump’s efforts to protect this country.

http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Robert-Mueller-Getty-Images-Alex-Wong.jpg

POLITICAL PROSECUTION: Mueller’s Hit Squad Covered For Clinton And Persecutes Trump Associates


The fallacious facade of quasi-attorney general Mueller’s “investigation” is crumbling by the minute, revealing ugly truths and the stench of a political persecution at its worst.

We learn more every day that Mueller’s team consists of corrupt Clinton cronies, donors, and sycophants; the poster boy for prosecutorial misconduct — Andrew Weissmann, former Clinton lawyer Jeanie Rhee, and “never-Trumpers” whose blatant biases have tainted this investigation — “investigation” — from its inception. Their own conflicts of interest are so palpable, the prosecution so selective, and the process so corrupt, that all charges brought to date should be dismissed and the debacle ended.

It’s hard to tell quite where and how it all began, but here is a start.

First, Robert Mueller, James Comey, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Mueller lieutenant Andrew Weissmann all have longstanding, strong relationships with each other. Each of these key men worked for and with Mueller throughout their careers. The fingerprints of each of them are on the Uranium One transactions with Russia which infused the Clintons and their “Foundation” with hundreds of millions of dollars while helping Russia and depleting our supply of uranium.

Comey followed Mueller as Director of the FBI, and the two have been close friends since they stood down President Bush on a national surveillance issue. Rosenstein worked for Mueller in the Department of Justice for several years at the beginning of his career in the now ironically named Public Integrity Section of the Department of Justice. Rosenstein named Mueller as Special Counsel (with Mueller’s agreement to leave his big law firm) within seven days of Comey’s firing.

Given that extremely brief time frame, and Comey’s admitted leaks to the New York Times of his conversations with the President (which should have been protected at a minimum by executive privilege), one can surmise that three or all four of these men communicated extensively and hatched this plan for Mueller to be special counsel—if not prior to Comey’s termination, then immediately after it.

Why else would Comey tell Congress that he leaked his conversations to a friend to get to the New York Times “hoping” to trigger the appointment of a special counsel? Despite the countless scandals of the Obama administration, there was never a special counsel appointed in those eight years. Comey admitted long ago in his Bush tenure, that after his own chief of staff, his first call in a perceived crisis was to Bob Mueller.

Mueller had a hand in placing Mr. Weissmann on the Enron Task Force, allowing him to run rough-shod over most of Houston, destroy Arthur Andersen LLP and 85,000 jobs, and send four innocent Merrill executives to prison on indictments for crimes he made up while he and his team hid the evidence that showed they were innocent. Then Mueller brought Weissmann into the FBI, ultimately as General Counsel and Deputy Director. All four men have thrived in the swamp for thirty years or more. None have ever been elected to office.

As for the latest scene of something akin to “Monsters from the Deep Lagoon,” somewhere near the beginning of the Trump saga, Comey’s FBI followed on the Clinton campaign and was willing to continue to fund a Russian to compile the dossier (the Steele dossier) of slanderous smears against then-candidate Donald Trump. (Those would have been your tax dollars.)

Comey’s FBI took that purchased pack of lies to a secret court (FISA) to get a secret warrant to record conversations of one of candidate Trump’s associates. The media laughed at the President for suggesting he had been wiretapped.

Let that sink in: The incumbent-but-departing-administration secretly wiretapped the team of the incoming President of the United States (whom it despised)—based on lies the Clinton campaign bought-and-paid-for from a Russian.

This is the same FBI and James Comey that we know now exonerated and covered for Hillary Clinton despite her flagrant destruction of evidence and incontrovertible breaches of national security—not to mention her irrefutable false statement to Congress which was a blatant violation of 18 U.S.C. Section 1001 (false statement) for which retired General Michael Flynn and George Papadopolous have been forced to plead guilty.

The FBI and the Obama administration knew that Russia was up to no good, but used it for their own purposes. Fusion GPS, working for Clinton and the DNC that Clinton had already bought, tried to entrap the Trump team, setting up a meeting with a Russian lawyer which became a focus of the Mueller investigation — until it became public that this Russian met with Clinton’s Fusion GPS before and after her meeting with Trump associates.

After President Trump was elected by the people who want to drain the swamp of this very sort of infestation, President Obama and his national security advisor Susan Rice (and no doubt others) took the unprecedented step of “unmasking” the names of those on the Trump Transition Team who were speaking with the Russian Ambassador. The Obama administration then leaked insinuations to the voracious Trump-hating press.

We learned this week that while Mueller has been stonewalling Congress, he has been protecting a corrupted FBI Agent—his lead investigator Peter Strzok—the same agent who helped craft Director Comey’s exoneration of Mrs. Clinton and conducted her “interview” with the FBI shortly after Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s infamous tarmac meeting with Bill Clinton. Agent Strzok was actually fired months ago for text messages with his mistress revealing his disdain for President Trump. Agent Strzok is the agent responsible for interviewing retired General Flynn and is under investigation himself by the Inspector General for his role in the Clinton email “investigation.”

Yesterday, we confirmed that Andrew Weissmann is part of the “resistance.” In addition to having destroyed Arthur Andersen and its 85,000 jobs only to be reversed three years later by a unanimous Supreme Court—Mr. Weissmann was an opponent of President Trump’s extreme vetting policy for persons from countries known for their security failures and terrorism. An email obtained through the efforts of Judicial Watch revealed his applause for former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates and her refusal to enforce President’s Trump’s efforts to protect this country.

Mueller’s hit squad epitomizes the swamp that President Trump was elected to drain. Its charges are irreparably tainted by its members’ biases, corrupted evidence, and intolerable conflicts of interest. Congress cannot legitimately continue to waste taxpayer dollars to fund this effort.

Sidney Powell (@SidneyPowell1) was a federal prosecutor in three districts under nine U.S. attorneys from both political parties, then in private practice now for more than 20 years. She is a past president of the Bar Association of the 5th Federal Circuit and of the American Academy of Appellate Lawyers. A veteran of 500 federal appeals, she published “Licensed to Lie: Exposing Corruption in the Department of Justice.” She consulted with Arthur Andersen on appeal and represented one of the Merrill Executives.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/06/political-prosecution-muellers-hit-squad-covered-for-clinton-and-persecutes-trump-associates/

[Pavlov]

:lol right wingers terrified of Mueller.

[boutons_deux]

http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/danzcolor8637-668x501.jpg

[pgardn]

http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Robert-Mueller-Getty-Images-Alex-Wong.jpg

POLITICAL PROSECUTION: Mueller’s Hit Squad Covered For Clinton And Persecutes Trump Associates


The same batshit crazy "news" site that published the following concerning an ammo purchase by the government:

What would be the target of these 174,000 rounds of hollow point bullets? It can't simply be to control demonstrators or rioters. Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war. Hollow point bullets don't just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the body's organs. Death often follows.
Potentially each hollow nose bullet represents a dead American. If so, why would the U.S. government want the SSA to kill 174,000 of our citizens, even during a time of civil unrest? Or is the purpose to kill 174,000 of the nation's military and replace them with Department of Homeland Security (DHS) special security forces, forces loyal to the Administration, not to the Constitution? [The Daily Caller, 8/17/12 (http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/who-does-the-government-intend-to-shoot)]

Which of course was pure bovine intestinal residue.
Keep going Chris.
We feel your delusional mind.
And it has the consistency of mush.

[Reck]

Chris back to watchdogging again. :lol

[TSA]

939247732308529153
:lmao :lmao :lmao

Here’s the really funny part from the NYT article you linked.

“In some ways, the Russian outreach to Ms. Hicks undercuts the idea that the Russian government had established deep ties to the Trump campaign before the election. If it had, Russian officials might have found a better entrèe to the White House than unprompted emails to Ms. Hicks.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/us/politics/hope-hicks-russia-trump-fbi.html?mtrref=t.co&referer=http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/08/nyt-emails-undercut-trump-russia-collusion/

[Pavlov]

It is well known that Russians only try one method of infiltration then they just give up.

[monosylab1k]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25158320_1030656873741689_2656166068048156550_n.pn g?oh=9de8e37053b335a506d6b0a197cff068&oe=5A88E656

:lmao the bottom tagline really sells it.

[Reck]

939564969405927424

Truth.

[Splits]

It is well known that Russians only try one method of infiltration then they just give up.

:lmao

[DarrinS]

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/

[TSA]

939126036759015424
Lordy i cant get enough!

:lmao

There was just one small problem with this story: it was fundamentally false, in the most embarrassing way possible. Hours after CNN broadcast its story – and then hyped it over and over and over – the Washington Post reported that CNN got the key fact of the story wrong.

The email was not dated September 4, as CNN claimed, but rather September 14 – which means it was sent after WikiLeaks had already published access to the DNC emails online. Thus, rather than offering some sort of special access to Trump, “Michael J. Erickson” was simply some random person from the public encouraging the Trump family to look at the publicly available DNC emails that WikiLeaks – as everyone by then already knew – had publicly promoted. In other words, the email was the exact opposite of what CNN presented it as being.

[TSA]

Good documentation of all the bullshit djohn regularly tries to pass off as truth

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/27/cnn-journalists-resign-latest-example-of-media-recklessness-on-the-russia-threat/

[TSA]

Case Closed: FBI says Sessions didn't have to reveal Russia talks

The FBI has put to bed a controversy whipped up by liberal critics of Attorney General Jeff Sessions over his contacts with foreign officials including Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak during the 2016 presidential campaign.

An FBI email released through the Freedom of Information Act said that Sessions had no obligation to reveal any contacts with foreign officials unless he “developed personal relationships” with them.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/case-closed-fbi-says-sessions-didnt-have-to-reveal-russia-talks/article/2642982

[TSA]

939210261457752064

[Reck]

Good documentation of all the bullshit djohn regularly tries to pass off as truth

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/27/cnn-journalists-resign-latest-example-of-media-recklessness-on-the-russia-threat/

Holy shit, you know you have nothing when you're left to citing 6 month old articles.

Not a win, TSA.

[TSA]

Nunes never recused himself from the investigation and was just cleared by the ethics committee. The ethics complaint against him was the left’s attempt to shut down what he was uncovering.

Head of House intelligence panel finds evidence of abuse in US government surveillance
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/08/head-house-ethics-panel-finds-evidence-abuse-in-us-government-surveillance.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

[TSA]

Holy shit, you know you have nothing when you're left to citing 6 month old articles.

Not a win, TSA.

939126036759015424

:lol BOOM
:lol September 4th

[Reck]

939126036759015424

:lol BOOM
:lol September 4th

Why are you getting hunged up on a date? Does that make the story false?

Did Trump Jr. not have contact with wikileaks and was given a description key so he can have access to stolen material that pertained to Hillary Clinton? Did that not happen?

[dabom]

Why are you getting hunged up on a date? Does that make the story false?

Did Trump Jr. not have contact with wikileaks and was given a description key so he can have access to stolen material that pertained to Hillary Clinton? Did that not happen?

How did that guy even have all those people's personal emails? :wow

[TSA]

Why are you getting hunged up on a date? Does that make the story false?


:lmao

[TSA]

Did Trump Jr. not have contact with wikileaks and was given a description key so he can have access to stolen material that pertained to Hillary Clinton? Did that not happen?

:lmao

[Reck]

:lmao

Well that's pretty much a white flag from you.

Answer the questions.

[djohn2oo8]

Well that's pretty much a white flag from you.

Answer the questions.

He can't neither can Chris or Darrin. Chickenshits.

[DarrinS]

He can't neither can Chris or Darrin. Chickenshits.

Someone emailed Don Jr a link to WikiLeaks DNC dump that was already published. Lock him up!

:lol

[TSA]

Well that's pretty much a white flag from you.

Answer the questions.

I didn’t think you were being serious with those questions :rollin

The date means everything. CNN thought they had THE smoking gun. Someone offered Trump Jr a key to access the DNC emails before Wikileaks had released them. This proved the Trump campaign was therefore colluding with Russia via Wikileaks. They had Trump nailed, he was finished, it was over. Problem was the email was sent after Wikileaks had already released the DNC emails. :lol

“The email was not dated September 4, as CNN claimed, but rather September 14 – which means it was sent after WikiLeaks had already published access to the DNC emails online. Thus, rather than offering some sort of special access to Trump, “Michael J. Erickson” was simply some random person from the public encouraging the Trump family to look at the publicly available DNC emails that WikiLeaks – as everyone by then already knew – had publicly promoted. In other words, the email was the exact opposite of what CNN presented it as being.”

[TSA]

He can't neither can Chris or Darrin. Chickenshits.

Lordy!
:lol BOOM

[djohn2oo8]

Someone emailed Don Jr a link to WikiLeaks DNC dump that was already published. Lock him up!

:lol

Jr lied to congress. Lock him up. We will call you shortbus Darrin.

[Reck]

I didn’t think you were being serious with those questions :rollin

The date means everything. CNN thought they had THE smoking gun. Someone offered Trump Jr a key to access the DNC emails before Wikileaks had released them. This proved the Trump campaign was therefore colluding with Russia via Wikileaks. They had Trump nailed, he was finished, it was over. Problem was the email was sent after Wikileaks had already released the DNC emails. :lol

“The email was not dated September 4, as CNN claimed, but rather September 14 – which means it was sent after WikiLeaks had already published access to the DNC emails online. Thus, rather than offering some sort of special access to Trump, “Michael J. Erickson” was simply some random person from the public encouraging the Trump family to look at the publicly available DNC emails that WikiLeaks – as everyone by then already knew – had publicly promoted. In other words, the email was the exact opposite of what CNN presented it as being.”

You thinking CNN, a news organization is conducting investigations to take down Trump is cute. A bit paranoid but funny nonetheless.

Trump and his trumpies ought to be worry about Mueller. Not CNN.

[djohn2oo8]

Lordy!
:lol BOOM

Why did Jr lie to congress?

[djohn2oo8]

You thinking CNN, a news organization is conducting investigations to take down Trump is cute. A bit paranoid but funny nonetheless.

Trump and his trumpies ought to be worry about Mueller. Not CNN.

They can't explain why JR lied about the meeting. :lol Adoptions

[TSA]

Why did Jr lie to congress?

How the fuck am I supposed to know?

[TSA]

You thinking CNN, a news organization is conducting investigations to take down Trump is cute. A bit paranoid but funny nonetheless.

Trump and his trumpies ought to be worry about Mueller. Not CNN.

That’s your takeaway from what happened? Lol

[djohn2oo8]

How the fuck am I supposed to know?

Ah gotcha. So Jr lied and you don't know why? Glad we have you on record.

[DarrinS]

Three botched “bombshells” in one week. Yikes


https://www.axios.com/the-medias-russia-probe-meltdown-3-screw-ups-in-one-week-2515978886.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100&utm_term=politics

[DarrinS]

And John posted them all. :lol

[Reck]

That’s your takeaway from what happened? Lol

I think you should post more about Pizzagate.

[Pavlov]

I think you should post more about Pizzagate.

:lol muh Silsby

[djohn2oo8]

Three botched “bombshells” in one week. Yikes


https://www.axios.com/the-medias-russia-probe-meltdown-3-screw-ups-in-one-week-2515978886.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100&utm_term=politics

I will ask again. Why did Jr lie to congress?

[djohn2oo8]

Answer and don't be a little bitch. Darrin.

[TSA]

I think you should post more about Pizzagate.

Well that’s pretty much a white flag from you.

[TSA]

Answer and don't be a little bitch. Darrin.

You are repeatedly asking a question only Don Jr can answer and think you’ve scored some point when no one here can answer.

[TSA]

And John posted them all. :lol

Lordy I can’t get enough! :rollin

[DarrinS]

Answer and don't be a little bitch. Darrin.

Lol. Mad.

I don’t know why he lied.

[Reck]

Well that’s pretty much a white flag from you.

What is there to be said? I dont like discussions that go in circles.

CNN got dates wrong, get over it. The story itself remains pretty much the same.

That's my take on it.

[TSA]

What is there to be said? I dont like discussions that go in circles.

CNN got dates wrong, get over it. The story itself remains pretty much the same.

That's my take on it.

Do you not see the significance of the wrong date and the implications that came with it?

[djohn2oo8]

You are repeatedly asking a question only Don Jr can answer and think you’ve scored some point when no one here can answer.

Is it really that hard to theorize why somebody might lie? :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Lol. Mad.

I don’t know why he lied.

Why might a person lie? To congress? Why would Flynn lie to the FBI?

[djohn2oo8]

Gotta love it. The Benghazi crew who called Hillary a liar and crooked Hillary all of a sudden don't know why somebody might lie during a congressional investigation and to the FBI.

[TSA]

Not sure how this was missed924506495487823872

The hits just keep coming

[djohn2oo8]

Not sure how this was missed924506495487823872

The hits just keep coming

Why did Jr lie?

[TSA]

Why did Jr lie?

I don’t know.

Why did you push 3 fake news stories last week?

[boutons_deux]

If trash fires Comey I bet the Congressional Repugs do nothing, just let it pass

[boutons_deux]

I don’t know.

Why did you push 3 fake news stories last week?

Whataboutism

[Pavlov]

Not sure how this was missed924506495487823872

The hits just keep coming
What is you accusation here, TSA?

[TSA]

What is you accusation here, TSA?

Obama’s top communications director was married to one of Fusion GPS’s top employees

[Pavlov]

Obama’s top communications director was married to one of Fusion GPS’s top employeesOK, what are you accusing the two of them of doing?

Be specific.

[TSA]

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If it’s true that Schiff and Swalwell were the 2 who leaked the Sep 4th piece to CNN ooohhh Lordy!

[TSA]

OK, what are you accusing the two of them of doing?

Be specific.

I haven’t accused them of anything but again optics look terrible for the Obama admin.

[Pavlov]

I haven’t accused them of anything but again optics look terrible for the Obama admin.Oh, those guys who aren't in office anymore?

Just more innuendo for you to repeat?

lol

[Spurminator]

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If it’s true that Schiff and Swalwell were the 2 who leaked the Sep 4th piece to CNN ooohhh Lordy!

What leads you to believe this is true, other than this guy's tweet?

[TSA]

What leads you to believe this is true, other than this guy's tweet?

It’s much longer than a single tweet. Have you read all of them?

[Chris]

Do you not see the significance of the wrong date and the implications that came with it?

SAD!



New Poll Finds 92% of Democrats Uninformed, Ignorant and Easily Played


The far left #FakeNews media has been wrong all year.

The liberal mainstream media has pushed the conspiracy that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia during the 2016 election to defeat Hillary Clinton.

This was all a lie.
In fact, it was Hillary Clinton and the DNC who colluded to defeat Bernie Sanders in the primary and then colluded with Russia. Democrats and the Obama FBI paid cash for a fake Russian dossier so they could spy on Donald Trump at Trump tower.

But Democrat voters are ignorant.
And Democrats rely on the fact that they are stupid and easily played.

A new poll released this week by CBS News found that 92% of Democrats believe Trump advisors had improper dealings with Russia.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/democrats-trump-russia-dopes.jpg

The poll claims 43% of Republicans believe the fairy tale… which is complete rubbish.

Of course, Republican voters are correct. After a year of screaming liberal media headlines and conspiracy theories there is NO EVIDENCE that any Trump official made improper contact with the Russians.

This was all a media lie to destroy Trump.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/new-poll-finds-92-democrats-uninformed-ignorant-easily-played/

[DarrinS]

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[djohn2oo8]

I don’t know.

Why did you push 3 fake news stories last week?

Why did Jr lie? Why did you push the Fake Susan Rice indictment?

[djohn2oo8]

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Why did Jr lie? Flynn? Sessions?

[Reck]

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But remember this is all fake news and the bank hasn't given documents to Mueller on Trump. Remember that Trump's lawyers said so.

[monosylab1k]

I don’t know.

Why did you push 3 fake news stories last week?

:lol the guy who believes in Pizzagate chastising someone else for pushing fake news.

[Pavlov]

:lol the guy who believes in Pizzagate chastising someone else for pushing fake news.
http://i.imgur.com/NLFgIpE.gif

[Reck]

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Yeah. I remember twitter, the internet and all that jazz back then too.

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

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But remember this is all fake news and the bank hasn't given documents to Mueller on Trump. Remember that Trump's lawyers said so.

You were already shown it was fake news and decide to try and continue pushing it. You are a special kind of stupid.


https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/


https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/business/media/cnn-correction-donald-trump-jr.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&referer=https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/

[Reck]

You were already shown it was fake news and decide to try and continue pushing it. You are a special kind of stupid.


https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/


https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/business/media/cnn-correction-donald-trump-jr.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&referer=https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/

So you're moving past reading headlines and just commenting blindly. :lol

That article is about Deutche Bank and how they handed Mueller documents.

Oh and how Trump is down the hole 300 cool millions to them. :lol TSA.

:lol counter arguing with a CNN article about wikileaks and Don Jr.
:lol going full retard

[TSA]

So you're moving past reading headlines and just commenting blindly. :lol

That article is about Deutche Bank and how they handed Mueller documents.

Oh and how Trump is down the hole 300 cool millions to them. :lol TSA.

:lol counter arguing with a CNN article about wikileaks and Don Jr.
:lol going full retard


But remember this is all fake news and the bank hasn't given documents to Mueller on Trump. Remember that Trump's lawyers said so.

No dummy, what you say happened did not happen.

“Several news outlets, including Bloomberg and The Wall Street Journal, also inaccurately reported this week that Deutsche Bank had received a subpoena from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, for President Trump’s financial records.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/business/media/cnn-correction-donald-trump-jr.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&referer=https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/

[Pavlov]

No dummy, what you say happened did not happen.

“Several news outlets, including Bloomberg and The Wall Street Journal, also inaccurately reported this week that Deutsche Bank had received a subpoena from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, for President Trump’s financial records.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/business/media/cnn-correction-donald-trump-jr.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&referer=https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/They sure gave Mueller something.

[Reck]

No dummy, what you say happened did not happen.

“Several news outlets, including Bloomberg and The Wall Street Journal, also inaccurately reported this week that Deutsche Bank had received a subpoena from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, for President Trump’s financial records.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/business/media/cnn-correction-donald-trump-jr.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&referer=https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/

I'll go with people that are actually in this area of expertise. You can go with 4chan and Trump's lawyers.

Given your credibility here. It won't hurt a bit. :lol

[TSA]

I'll go with people that are actually in this area of expertise. You can go with 4chan and Trump's lawyers.

Given your credibility here. It won't hurt a bit. :lol

Trump’s lawyer was correct, and people that are in actually in that area of expertise confirmed it. Are you not aware that Bloomberg and WSJ fucked up their reporting or are you just too stupid to understand what happened?

[Reck]

Trump’s lawyer was correct, and people that are in actually in that area of expertise confirmed it. Are you not aware that Bloomberg and WSJ fucked up their reporting or are you just too stupid to understand what happened?

What did they fucked up?

Can you say the bank hasn't given Mueller documents?

Trump's lawyers are already proven liars. Note: Trump is not under investigation.

He was. :lol

The great thing about this is that in a matter of a month or two, this will be proven out so let's revisit this then.

[TSA]

What did they fucked up?

Can you say the bank hasn't given Mueller documents?

Trump's lawyers are already proven liars. Note: Trump is not under investigation.

He was. :lol

The great thing about this is that in a matter of a month or two, this will be proven out so let's revisit this then.


But remember this is all fake news and the bank hasn't given documents to Mueller on Trump.

Mueller didn’t subpoena any documents from Deutsche Bank on Trump. You just parroted Bloomberg and WSJ’s fake news. Admit your mistake and move on.

[Reck]

Mueller didn’t subpoena any documents from Deutsche Bank on Trump. You just parroted Bloomberg and WSJ’s fake news. Admit your mistake and move on.

And you know this from what sources? Give it.

[Reck]

BTW TSA, Pizza News is not an agency news or a source.

[TSA]

And you know this from what sources? Give it.

Bloomberg and WSJ. Admit your mistake and move on.

[TSA]

Reck at least you only pushed 1 of last week’s fake news and not all 3 like djohn :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Bloomberg and WSJ. Admit your mistake and move on.
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Reuters and fox reported it too stupid fuck

[dabom]

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

BTW WSJ is a republican source. :lmao TSA

[djohn2oo8]

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Yup

[djohn2oo8]

Little cumbucket faggot. Screams Washington post is fake news then post articles from there.

[Reck]

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Yup

Is like I told the guy. In a few months, if that we will know for sure.

He keeps citing CNN's correction about Don Jr. and wikileaks for some reason to point fingers at fake news.

It has been proven that time is not TSA's best friend. Everything that has come out he's been saying it's fake just to have to eat the shit cake later. :lol

[TSA]

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Yup

Nope

[djohn2oo8]

Is like I told the guy. In a few months, if that we will know for sure.

He keeps citing CNN's correction about Don Jr. and wikileaks for some reason to point fingers at fake news.

It has been proven that time is not TSA's best friend. Everything that has come out he's been saying it's fake just to have to eat the shit cake later. :lol

He has still yet to answer for...

Obama Wiretap
Susan Rice Indictment
Pizzagate
Mike Flynn being a free man
No indictments
Hillary indictment
FISA warrants

[TSA]

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Reuters and fox reported it too stupid fuck

I don’t care who reported it you stupid fuck it was false, and you pushed it and are continuing to push it. In fact you pushed 3 fake news stories in just the last week. :lol stupid fuck

[TSA]

Is like I told the guy. In a few months, if that we will know for sure.

He keeps citing CNN's correction about Don Jr. and wikileaks for some reason to point fingers at fake news.

It has been proven that time is not TSA's best friend. Everything that has come out he's been saying it's fake just to have to eat the shit cake later. :lol

:lol stupid fuck

“Several news outlets, including Bloomberg and The Wall Street Journal, also inaccurately reported this week that Deutsche Bank had received a subpoena from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, for President Trump’s financial records.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/0...what-happened/

Speaking of CNN I think your boy Schiff was set up/fed the wrongly dated Sep 4th email on purpose and is going to be exposed as the leaker.

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[Reck]

:lol stupid fuck

“Several news outlets, including Bloomberg and The Wall Street Journal, also inaccurately reported this week that Deutsche Bank had received a subpoena from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, for President Trump’s financial records.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/0...what-happened/

Speaking of CNN I think your boy Schiff was set up/fed the wrongly dated Sep 4th email on purpose and is going to be exposed as the leaker.

939252169529790464

You know TSA, when you start hurdling insults at people while trying to make your point is not a good look on you.

It underminds your stance.

Let's leave this to time. We will revisit this, I'm sure.

[TSA]

You know TSA, when you start hurdling insults at people while trying to make your point is not a good look on you.

It underminds your stance.

Let's leave this to time. We will revisit this, I'm sure.

:lol hurdling insults
:lol stupid fuck

[djohn2oo8]

He has still yet to answer for...

Obama Wiretap
Susan Rice Indictment
Pizzagate
Mike Flynn being a free man
No indictments
Hillary indictment
FISA warrants

TSA why you skippin over these stories?

[Reck]

Speaking of CNN I think your boy Schiff was set up/fed the wrongly dated Sep 4th email on purpose and is going to be exposed as the leaker.

939252169529790464

I am going to respond to this part though.

This seems like a desperate Roger Stone hack job attempt to dirtied Schiff.

I like how that twitter guy said if CNN wants to get their credibility back they will burn their source and then proceed to name Adam Schiffs as the source. :lol Amateur hour.

But let's play your game for a minute, say this was Schiff, isn't he in the intelligence committe? Wouldn't he already know the dates to be 14th Sept and not 4th?

Giving out bad information wouldn't serve them because it would quickly be found out...which it was.

[monosylab1k]

I don’t care who reported it you stupid fuck it was false, and you pushed it and are continuing to push it. In fact you pushed 3 fake news stories in just the last week. :lol stupid fuck

:lol Pizzagate believer talking about fake news.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol Pizzagate

[TSA]

:lol Pizzagate believer talking about fake news.

:lol White knighting for djohn

[TSA]

:lol Pizzagate

:lol white flag

[TSA]

But let's play your game for a minute, say this was Schiff, isn't he in the intelligence committe? Wouldn't he already know the dates to be 14th Sept and not 4th?

Giving out bad information wouldn't serve them because it would quickly be found out...which it was.

Do you read anything before quoting someone?


I think your boy Schiff was set up/fed the wrongly dated Sep 4th email on purpose and is going to be exposed as the leaker.

[Reck]

Do you read anything before quoting someone?

So Schiff, who's in a comittee about getting secret intel gets fed false information and he just goes straight to the press with unvetted information. Is that the long and short of it, TSA? :lol

[monosylab1k]

:lol White knighting for djohn

:lol I gotta find the terms of our Pizzagate bet so I can cash in. Pretty sure your time’s about up on that one.

[dabom]

:lol I gotta find the terms of our Pizzagate bet so I can cash in. Pretty sure your time’s about up on that one.

:lol

[Pavlov]

ICYMI -- and it looks like many of you did.


According to our information, the subpoena from Mr. Mueller, who is investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 US elections, is in connection with Mr. Trump’s camp, requiring the bank to provide information on financial transactions and loans. It remains unclear whether the subpoena relates to the US president personally or a family member. Given that qualification, we are standing by our reporting. Other media that have since picked up on Handelsblatt’s original story, including the Wall Street Journal, Financial Times and Bloomberg, are sticking by their reporting, too.

https://global.handelsblatt.com/finance/yes-deutsche-bank-did-get-a-subpoena-from-mueller-861828

[TSA]

:lol I gotta find the terms of our Pizzagate bet so I can cash in. Pretty sure your time’s about up on that one.

:tu you know I won’t welch like others here. Pull it up and post it in the appropriate thread.

[djohn2oo8]

He has still yet to answer for...

Obama Wiretap
Susan Rice Indictment
Pizzagate
Mike Flynn being a free man
No indictments
Hillary indictment
FISA warrants
TSA

[djohn2oo8]

PeeSA why wont you answer to your fake news.

[DMX7]

PeeSA why wont you answer to your fake news.

They'll never apologize. Kellyanne Conway still hasn't apologized for her inauguration day outfit.

[TSA]

So Schiff, who's in a comittee about getting secret intel gets fed false information and he just goes straight to the press with unvetted information. Is that the long and short of it, TSA? :lol

That said, it would not be the IG carrying out the counterintelligence operation to identify leakers. In actuality, no official IC agency would be empowered to place fake news in front of congress. Setting traps for congress is generally bad form, and for matters of trust – bad politics. That reality, amid those who follow DC politics, is the central point to dismiss such the “Black Hat Hunting” theory.

However, few people were paying attention four months ago when Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coates told us they were going to do exactly that:

04:30 …”The FBI has created a new counterintelligence unit to manage these [leak] cases”…

08:17 …”these National Security breaches do not just originate from within the Intelligence Community. They come from a wide range of sources within the government, including the Congress.”…

00:50 …“we’re responding appropriately. We’re going to devote more resources, re-evaluate our procedures and make sure we investigate every one of those leaks in an appropriate way.”…

1:07 “We have seen a surge in referrals (of leaks). We’ve seen an increase in the number of leaks. And we’re going to respond appropriately and try to establish an effective deterrent. Criminal prosecution isn’t the only way to prevent leaks but it’s an important part of the solution.”…

1:43 “That significant increase has necessitated an increase in resources. And so we have re-prioritized our cases within the National Security Division, we’re providing appropriate supervision at a high level, we’ve created a new unit within the FBI to focus on those leaks, and we’re going to devote whatever resources are necessary to get them under control.”…

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/12/09/the-new-fbi-agency-everyone-forgot-did-adam-schiff-just-get-caught-in-an-elaborate-counterintelligence-sting/

[djohn2oo8]

Yeah a former prosecutor woule leak false info to the public knowing what information can jeopardize a case. Smhm

[AaronY]

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BOOM!

[AaronY]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/151/933/b94.jpg

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[RandomGuy]

ICYMI -- and it looks like many of you did.

https://global.handelsblatt.com/finance/yes-deutsche-bank-did-get-a-subpoena-from-mueller-861828

If anyone would have a source within Deutsche Bank that would know, it would be "Trade Paper", in Germany.

Noted. My guess is that it may have something to do with Kushner. If they go after Trump it will be VERY, VERY, VERY discreet.

[RandomGuy]

“Russia, if you’re listening...”

Exactly what someone would do who had Russian back channels. :lol

What is funny, and a bit pathetic, is that you think Trump is smart enough to act rationally. Moron.

[boutons_deux]

The right-wing hate media and Repug attacks on the FBI and IC are propaganda for the base that Trash and his mafiya are innocent, that the investigations are political witch hunts by corrupt, polticized FBI/IC "nazis".

Let the 2nd-Amendment-Constitutional white male supremacist shooting uprising begin. Water the Tree! Freedom!

[boutons_deux]

prick Hannity and crazy fucked up bitch so-called judge Pirro lead the charge

Judge Jeanine’s bonkers rant: Mueller and other Justice Department personnel should be ‘locked up’

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/fox_on_pirro_170125a-800x430.jpg

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/judge-jeanines-bonkers-rant-mueller-and-other-justice-department-personnel-should-be-locked-up/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Tells me Fox's inside Repug sources, even Repugs in FBI, are telling Fox Mueller has got the goods on Trash.

Dems, the media, law enforcement are all illegit and lying, so the Repugs are setting themselves up as the only truthful, legit group.

And the evangelicals/Rushdoony-ites claiming the only legit truth and laws are from the Bible, so all y'all Bible humpers can also start shooting at the govt.

[DarrinS]

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Mensch!

[djohn2oo8]

Mensch!

What have you been right about Darrin? Ill wait.

[DarrinS]

What have you been right about Darrin? Ill wait.

Keep posting fake news and conspiratards

[djohn2oo8]

Keep posting fake news and conspiratards

So you can't even say what you've been right about?

[boutons_deux]

A Constitutional Crisis Is on the Way

Would Trump fire Robert Mueller? You bet he would.

the closer he gets, the more agitated President Trump and his defenders become.

In response, they've begun an all-out assault on Mueller, one that could well result in Trump firing him.

It's more than obvious that Trump wants to do so;

They surely know that Trump firing Mueller would not only be a political disaster for him but would plunge the government into its most serious crisis in decades, with a president moving to shut down an investigation into his own wrongdoing.

Rod Rosenstein, who has made clear he understands that he is only allowed to fire Mueller for cause, not simply because the president doesn't like being investigated.

So Trump would probably have to fire Rosenstein, then order the next person in line to fire Mueller, and if she didn't, he could keep firing people on down the line

he is also being constantly pressured to go ahead and fire Mueller.

Trump is highly attuned to conservative media, particularly Fox News (The New York Timesreports (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/09/us/politics/donald-trump-president.html) that he watches between four and eight hours of cable news every day), where

he's getting hammered day in and day out with the message that Mueller is so corrupt and biased against him that he absolutely has to go.

Jeanine Pirro, in which she says that

the FBI and DOJ "need to be cleansed of individuals who should not just be fired but who need to be taken out in handcuffs.

There have been times in our history when corruption and lawlessness were so pervasive, that examples had to be made.

This is one of those times."

"I think we now know that the Mueller investigation is illegitimate and corrupt," said (http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2017/10/30/newt-gingrich-calls-mueller-out-control-prosecutor.html) the network's Greg Jarrett.

"Mueller is corrupt. The senior FBI is corrupt. The system is corrupt,"

Sean Hannity, who refers (http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2017/12/06/gop-lawmakers-call-out-double-standards-within-fbi.html) to the investigators as

"Robert Mueller's partisan extremely biased hyper-partisan attack team."

So on a daily basis, the president is being told, through the medium from which he gets most of his information, that Mueller needs to be fired and the entire Justice Department is conspiring against him.

I'd wager that most Republicans will convince themselves that Mueller really is out of control and has to be shut down.

They'll be on TV insisting that Trump was right to do what he did, and he'll be watching.

http://prospect.org/article/constitutional-crisis-on-way

I think the Repug establishment will be happy to replace Trash, ("not our boy, not our choice"), with Bible-humping, racist, misogynist Pence, and will vote to impeach and convict Trash.

The problem is that Repugs are so panicked by losing Trash's base, they may delay conviction until after mid-terms. By then, Trash may have nuked NK.

[djohn2oo8]

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lol TSA inside job theory shot to shit.

[djohn2oo8]

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[boutons_deux]

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Pootin says he didn't do nuttin.

BFF Trash says he got no help.

Trash's so-called Presidency is illegit, and he knows it.

[TSA]

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lol TSA inside job theory shot to shit.

You are such a gullible fuck.

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[djohn2oo8]

:lmao TSA has no thoughts on the subject. An actual confession to the court. Jesus.

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao Inside Job shot to shit

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

:lmao TSA has no thoughts on the subject. An actual confession to the court. Jesus.It's a bullshit confession, and you fell for it.

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[djohn2oo8]

It's a bullshit confession, and you fell for it.

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:lmao got your dumbass triggered
:lmao moving the goalposts to a "bullshit confession"
:lmao Stupid cuck

[TSA]

:lmao got your dumbass triggered
:lmao moving the goalposts to a "bullshit confession"
:lmao Stupid cuck

The only thing you got me to do was read more than just the single tweet you posted. I see you have no comment on the rest of the conversation.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Keep posting fake news and conspiratards

This narrative should have sailed after the you made this claim about her last time and she ended being vindicated.

Of course you have no honor, integrity, or intellectual honesty.

[Chucho]

The only thing you got me to do was read more than just the single tweet you posted.

Sadly, Leftist Chris can't be bothered to read a box score correctly.

[TSA]

This narrative should have sailed after the you made this claim about her last time and she ended being vindicated.

Of course you have no honor, integrity, or intellectual honesty.

:lol the Marshal of the Supreme Court

[djohn2oo8]

:lol the Marshal of the Supreme Court
Susan Rice still a free woman.

So is Hillary.

Pizzagate still not a thing.

[djohn2oo8]

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[DarrinS]

This narrative should have sailed after the you made this claim about her last time and she ended being vindicated.

Of course you have no honor, integrity, or intellectual honesty.



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She’s batshit

[RandomGuy]

Keep posting fake news and conspiratards

You have proven time and again, to be a really poor judge of sources and claims.

Do you still need me to explain Congressional overrides of presidential vetoes? You seemed to be having trouble with that earlier.

[djohn2oo8]

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She’s batshit

You still can't name one thing you have been right about?

[RandomGuy]

You were already shown it was fake news and decide to try and continue pushing it. You are a special kind of stupid.


https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/


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If Flynn lied about his Russia contacts because they were deemed politically damaging, then Trump associates — and maybe the president himself — could get caught in a cover-up, even if what they're trying to hide isn't itself criminal.

If the facts bear that out, that could mean an obstruction of justice case. For months, news outlets have reported that Mueller is looking into whether Trump obstructed justice, which would amount to attempting to influence or subvert an ongoing investigation.

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She’s batshit


Obstruction could remain a possible endgame charge in a second scenario as well: If Flynn lied to shield a broader network of contacts between Trump associates, Russians and some nefarious actions they engaged in together.

Mueller's mandate from the Justice Department calls for him to investigate "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government" and the Trump campaign. In the popular parlance, that is often called the question of "collusion."

But even though "collusion" is a word that has been frequently bandied about, there is no such criminal charge. There is another C-word that could come into play — conspiracy.


https://www.npr.org/2017/12/10/568929285/as-muellers-russia-probe-forges-ahead-potential-legal-endgames-begin-to-take-sha

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One potential charge might be conspiracy to violate the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, says Barak Cohen, a partner and litigation lead at Perkins Coie in Washington, D.C. Mueller's team could reach for that if there is evidence that Trump associates worked with Russia on the hacking of the Democratic National Committee or the emails of Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman, John Podesta.

"I think the special counsel would like to be able to charge them as co-conspirators to the hack or accessories after the fact," Cohen said. "It's the most credible and well-established legal theory."

If Trump associates weren't directly involved in the hacks but, say, knew about them and kept them hidden, then they could be charged as accessories after that fact, Cohen said.

Another theory proffered by John Norris and Carolyn Kenney for the liberal Center for American Progress is that Mueller might try to use the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act.

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"More dominoes seem almost inevitable to fall given the special counsel's efforts to secure cooperating witnesses, and RICO statutes give him a powerful card to play if he wishes to do so," they wrote.

Or a more general conspiracy charge — to defraud the United States — could come into play, according to Eliason. Conspiracy of this sort means interfering with a lawful government function by deceit or dishonest means. In this case, prosecutors might try to prove the Trump camp had helped pervert the election.

"Of course, it depends on what the facts show," Eliason said, "but if one worked with the Russians to leak information and create false social media accounts and other such stuff, that could be conspiracy to defraud the U.S."

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A third possible endgame is some sort of financial crime such as money laundering.

"My guess is this is all going to center around money — Russian money," Moore said.

Questions swirl around Trump's finances, partly because he has been opaque about his tax payments and partly because of charges by opponents that his businesses are the terminus of a money laundering scheme.

This aspect of the story got a boost after reports that Deutsche Bank had received a subpoena from Mueller's team for information on accounts held by people or entities connected to Trump.

A lawyer for Trump, Jay Sekulow, denied those reports. The bank itself has made no comment. A Deutsche Bank spokesman told a German business newspaper that it cooperates with official inquiries but does not comment on individual cases.

Probing possible financial crimes dating back to before Trump took office and unrelated to Russia could be perilous politically. Trump's aides and Republicans have already argued that such a move would be a step too far for Mueller.


There is the money laundering thing. Probably the easiest to prove, but politically hard to justify.

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You still can't name one thing you have been right about?

I generally agree Russia's efforts had little overall effect, but it wasn't for a lack of trying. The question is, whether we should put up with active efforts of an intelligence agency of a foreign government to attack the very idea of democracy itself. Western liberal democracy is under threat from authoritarian regimes. That is important.

There is also the matter that the sitting president appears to be actively compromised by that same government.

But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest shit possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.

The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened, and has gone so far as to take the extraordinary effort to delegitimize his own intelligence services when they something did happen. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

Fact 6:
Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.

Fact 7:
Donald Trump, when forced to sign a bipartisan sanctions bill passed with a veto-proof majority of both houses of Congress, issued a signing statement saying most of it was unconstitutional, and that his administration would enforce it as little as possible.


Fact 8:
when Russia retaliated against sanctions by forcing the US embassy to cut staff, Trump thanked Putin for the action, making him look weak, something he has said one should never do, and is inconsistent with his past behavior in any other regard.

Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.

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