Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Reck]

ducks is having a bit of a bad day.

[Pavlov]

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lol

[Chris]

Big win for Trump :tu

Even offered to help Mueller's investigation - classy :tu

[Pavlov]

Big win for Trump :tu

Even offered to help Mueller's investigation - classy :tu:lmao Trump said Russia didn't do it, Chris.

[Chris]

:lmao Trump said Russia didn't do it, Chris.

So what? Well informed Americans know it was Seth Rich who hacked the DNC and the Russian trolls were Bernie bros. Yet, Trump and Putin still offer to help. Big win for America/Russia :tu

[djohn2oo8]

Chris must not have cable because Trump is getting his ass roasted by everyone. Hell "traitor" was trending on twitter lol

[djohn2oo8]

So what? Well informed Americans know it was Seth Rich who hacked the DNC and the Russian trolls were Bernie bros. Yet, Trump and Putin still offer to help. Big win for America/Russia :tu

Actually dumbass, a grand jury charged Russians with the hacking.

[spurraider21]

Chris must not have cable because Trump is getting his ass roasted by everyone. Hell "traitor" was trending on twitter lol
i'm sure posobiec, infowars, flamethrower experts, chuck woolery are all still supporting him

[djohn2oo8]

Guess Chris can't read

[djohn2oo8]

i'm sure posobiec, infowars, flamethrower experts, chuck woolery are all still supporting him

Yeah

[ducks]

Guess Chris can't read

you can not think so you swallow Kyle Griffin tweets and take them to truth and do no research to see if true

[Pavlov]

you can not think so you swallow Kyle Griffin tweets and take them to truth and do no research to see if trueDid you do any research on Bill Browder before taking Putin's words as truth, ducks?

[Chris]

Chris must not have cable because Trump is getting his ass roasted by everyone. Hell "traitor" was trending on twitter lol

Djohn admitting he gets programmed by the television:lol

Twitter trends :lol

[Pavlov]

Djohn admitting he gets programmed by the television:lol

Twitter trends :lolWhere are you getting your news today, Chris?

[Chris]

Putin extending the olive branch - classy. :tu


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[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

Putin extending the olive branch - classy. :tu


1018909673070714880*ding*

Chris trying to distract from Trump's getting routed today by believing anything Putin says.


lol

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

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1018949357939380225lol even anonymous twitter is trying to *ding* Trump's disaster.

[djohn2oo8]

Djohn admitting he gets programmed by the television:lol

Twitter trends :lol


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Your shit aint even trending on twitter

[Chris]

Your shit aint even trending on twitter

Twitter trends for djohn :lol

[Chris]

That guy is a former CIA director and knows a traitor when he sees one.

That guy voted for a communist at the height of the Cold War when Russia wanted to destroy America.

lol djohn

[Reck]

Big win for Trump :tu

Even offered to help Mueller's investigation - classy :tu

:lmao

[ducks]

mcdemocract can not go to congress this year but can tweet all weekend and today
he is a fucking traitor

[Pavlov]

mcdemocract can not go to congress this year but can tweet all weekend and today
he is a fucking traitorNo, a traitor would deny Russia attacked the 2016 election.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Well then

[ducks]

No, a traitor would deny Russia attacked the 2016 election.

not working and getting paid is a traitor

[ducks]

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Well then

lol evans does your thinking now

[Pavlov]

not working and getting paid is a traitorNo.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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a lil fucked

[Pavlov]

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a lil fuckedDennisonistas are going to try to rally round Putin and his Browder comments.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Highlighting again because this shit is incredible

[djohn2oo8]

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[Chris]

Ah Maria Butina. It all makes sense now :lol

[Pavlov]

Ah Maria Butina. It all makes sense now :lolYou never heard of her.

[djohn2oo8]

Ah Maria Butina. It all makes sense now :lol

Nothing makes sense for you.

[djohn2oo8]

You never heard of her.

lol

[boutons_deux]

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Highlighting again because this shit is incredible

is this cryptochannel to Russia the same or different from the one Kushner asked for and was denied?

[Chris]

Maria Butina - the missing link to tie everything together.

[Pavlov]

Maria Butina - the missing link to tie everything together.lol Chris doesn't know how to react to the actual arrest of an actual Russian spy he never heard of and refuses to read about.

[Chris]

lol Chris doesn't know how to react to the actual arrest of an actual Russian spy he never heard of and refuses to read about.

Crazy she got arrested with everything she knows. I figured Russian assassins would have got to her by now.

[djohn2oo8]

is this cryptochannel to Russia the same or different from the one Kushner asked for and was denied?

Sounds different because this started earlier it seems

[Pavlov]

Crazy she got arrested with everything she knows. I figured Russian assassins would have got to her by now.You haven't read one thing about her, Chris.

You try to wear your ignorance like armor.

[djohn2oo8]

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Schiff throwing alley oops to himself off the backboard for the sure dunk.

[Chris]

You haven't read one thing about her, Chris.

You try to wear your ignorance like armor.

I can't believe Putin let her off the hook.

[ducks]

Do liberals want America to admit our political meddling in Venezuela?

[Pavlov]

I can't believe Putin let her off the hook.I can believe you still haven't read anything about her.

[Pavlov]

Do liberals want America to admit our political meddling in Venezuela?Sure.

Tell us all about it, ducks.

[djohn2oo8]

Do liberals want America to admit our political meddling in Venezuela?

The question isnt about meddling. It's about whether Trump conspired with a foreign nation against his own country. (He did)

[ducks]

how can flake and McCain even sleep at night
traitors

[DarrinS]

The question isnt about meddling. It's about whether Trump conspired with a foreign nation against his own country. (He did)


:lol

[djohn2oo8]

:lol
Funny how he trusts Putin over our own govt. You said no Russians were involved period. Now look at you.

[djohn2oo8]

^Recruiting more spies, no doubt. :lmao

Hmm. Spies getting arrested. Little Darrin.

[djohn2oo8]

Sure, but after months have gone by, you would think they would have something by now. I'm not even thoroughly convinced that Guccifer 2.0 is Russian.

^That person wanted to make sure that people would think it's Russia.

:lmao wrong

[djohn2oo8]

By the way, did they ever catch those Russians that hacked the power grid (as reported by WaPo)?

:lol

They caught quite a few Russians actually

[ducks]

If Left were concerned about foreign interference in our elections would not they want photo ID and citizenship checks for all voter

[Pavlov]

If Left were concerned about foreign interference in our elections would not they want photo ID and citizenship checks for all voterThis summit was a disaster for the USA, ducks.

Plain and simple.

There is no way to spin it or distract from it.

[ducks]

The question isnt about meddling. It's about whether Trump conspired with a foreign nation against his own country. (He did)

Prove it
Again if mueller had proof he would not have let trump put one Supreme Court judge in

[ducks]

Today was a disaster for the USA, ducks.

Plain and simple.

There is no way to spin it or distract from it.says the never trumpers

[Pavlov]

Prove it
Again if mueller had proof he would not have let trump put one Supreme Court judge inOf course he would.

[Pavlov]

says the never trumpersThe only people supporting Trump's performance at the summit are the ones who would applaud his performing a late term abortion on a woman he raped.

[spurraider21]

Prove it
Again if mueller had proof he would not have let trump put one Supreme Court judge in
how could mueller stop a SCOTUS nomination?

[Reck]

You never heard of her.

Has Chris heard of must of the people he cheers for?

Chris is a bot programmed to suck Trump's cock 247. Doesn't matter.

[Pavlov]

I really can't understate what a disaster this summit has been. No president has simply surrendered like this in the history of the US. It really is one for the history books.

[ducks]

Donald J. Trump
realDonaldTrump
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Will be interviewed on Seanhannity tonight at 9pmE and @TuckerCarlson tomorrow night at 8pmE. Enjoy!

[Pavlov]

Donald J. Trump
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Will be interviewed on Seanhannity tonight at 9pmE and @TuckerCarlson tomorrow night at 8pmE. Enjoy!Snowflake in Chief only wants softballs.

[ducks]

how could mueller stop a SCOTUS nomination?

I would think if he told the world trump was guilty things would slow down .....

[spurraider21]

Donald J. Trump
real (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6855)DonaldTrump
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Will be interviewed on Sean (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1402)hannity tonight at 9pmE and @TuckerCarlson tomorrow night at 8pmE. Enjoy!
he's smart to retreat to a safe space when the whole country is shitting on him. if this meeting was any shittier he'd probably line up a show with alex jones too

[spurraider21]

I would think if he told the world trump was guilty things would slow down .....
without a trial?

[Pavlov]

I would think if he told the world trump was guilty things would slow down .....That's not how investigations work.

[ducks]

Snowflake in Chief only wants softballs.

Do you think he would go on cnn to help their ratings
THey would not even let him finish his sentences

[Pavlov]

Do you think he would go on cnn to help their ratings
THey would not even let him finish his sentencesNo, he is afraid of CNN.

[ducks]

Mueller has 26 Russians 3 USA people if he had something on trump it be out with the bias fbi

[djohn2oo8]

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[ducks]

No, he is afraid of CNN.

Bull fucking shit
They do not let repubublicans finish their sentences

[Pavlov]

Mueller has 26 Russians 3 USA people if he had something on trump it be out with the bias fbiThat's not how investigations work.

[Pavlov]

1018976742596337664 PavlovThis indictment has a lot of red meat in it. The identities of the unnamed Americans probably won't stay unknown for long.

[ducks]

Rand Paul: McCain 'Out to Lunch' on Trump-Putin Comments

[ducks]

Michael Reagan: World Leaders Finger Pointing Not Productive

[ducks]

Chris Wallace previews 'remarkable' interview with Putin

[Reck]

Chris Wallace previews 'remarkable' interview with Putin

Is not "remarkable" in the way you think it is. :lol fucking trumpies cant think for themselves.

[djohn2oo8]

Is not "remarkable" in the way you think it is. :lol fucking trumpies cant think for themselves.

Can't wipe their own asses.

[Chris]

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welp

[djohn2oo8]

Chris falling in line. Reduced to believing a murderous thug

[Chris]

Chris falling in line. Reduced to believing a murderous thug

Well he's no Kyle Griffin, but I figured it was relevant.

[spurraider21]

oh putin says he didnt do the thing he's accused of doing. definitely must be innocent

[DarrinS]

oh putin says he didnt do the thing he's accused of doing. definitely must be innocent

He definitely ordered the super sophisticated phish attack.

[Pavlov]

lol Chris and Darrin clinging to Putin like newborn kittens.

[DarrinS]

lol Chris and Darrin clinging to Putin like newborn kittens.

We hate America. :cry

[Chris]

lol Chris and Darrin clinging to Putin like newborn kittens.

lol Pavlov going down with the ship - full blown TDS

[spurraider21]

He definitely ordered the super sophisticated phish attack.
spearphish

[Chris]

Don't forget the Russian assassins.

[spurraider21]

Don't forget the Russian assassins.
yeah nobody believes those

clinton hitmen assassinating seth rich tho... bingo

[DarrinS]

spearphish

Even more sophisticated. I’ve heard forensic experts describe Guccifer 2.0 as an unsupervised child.

[Spurminator]

He definitely ordered the super sophisticated phish attack.

Why does it matter how complicated the hack was?

I think I asked you this one of the last 1200 times you've trotted out this lazy defensive canard and you never answered.

[DarrinS]

Why does it matter how complicated the hack was?

I think I asked you this one of the last 1200 times you've trotted out this lazy defensive canard and you never answered.


A real “attack” would not be so low tech and so sloppy. Unless, they just suck at it.

[spurraider21]

Even more sophisticated. I’ve heard forensic experts describe Guccifer 2.0 as an unsupervised child.
do you know the difference between phising and spear phishing?

[DarrinS]

do you know the difference between phising and spear phishing?

Yes

[djohn2oo8]

Yes

what is it

[DarrinS]

what is it

They are the same, but spear phishing targets an individual.

[spurraider21]

They are the same, but spear phishing targets an individual.
great. do you know the specifics of how podesta was duped? was it the nigerian prince scam?

[djohn2oo8]

They are the same, but spear phishing targets an individual.

Oh okay. Because you said super sophisticated phish attack. Which is spear phishing

[djohn2oo8]

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[DarrinS]

great. do you know the specifics of how podesta was duped? was it the nigerian prince scam?

Nope. Pretty standard stuff. Too bad he was told it was legitimate instead of illegitimate. Unfortunate “typo”.

[DarrinS]

Oh okay. Because you said super sophisticated phish attack. Which is spear phishing

“Super sophisticated” was obvious sarcasm

[spurraider21]

Nope. Pretty standard stuff. Too bad he was told it was legitimate instead of illegitimate. Unfortunate “typo”.
so do you konw the specifics of how podesta was duped?

[DarrinS]

so do you konw the specifics of how podesta was duped?

Yes. Well documented.

[Pavlov]

What is Darrin trying to say here?

Just spit it out. Quit being passive aggressive.

[DarrinS]

What is Darrin trying to say here?

Just spit it out. Quit being passive aggressive.

It’s a mythtery. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Lou Dobbs Slams ‘Morons’ Criticizing Trump Over Putin Summit: ‘This is Stupid Stuff’

Dobbs introduced guests Ed Rollins and Michael Goodwin and endeavored to find out whether they concurred with his take.

Rollins, who heads the Great America PAC, suggested that

Trump should “have a lobotomy” to stop thinking about 2016 and focus more on being tough on Putin. :lol

Dobbs disagreed, and he made it clear during a rant in which he trashed Trump’s critics, particularly John Brennan because of how the former CIA director called the president’s display “treasonous.” (https://www.mediaite.com/online/high-crimes-misdemeanors-former-cia-chief-brennan-calls-trump-presser-nothing-short-of-treasonous/)

“I think that president handled himself perfectly. :lol

What would it have taken to satisfy the morons on those clips? And what is his name,

Brennan? He’s the biggest joke I have seen. :lol

What is he supposed to say? We’re settling this now, toe-to-toe with the Russkies, we’ll see who’s ICBM gets to which city the fastest? This is stupid stuff,

this beyond the pail, :lol


Dobbs went on to defend Trump’s rebuke of the intelligence community by joining the president and going after Hillary Clintonand the DNC.

He also dismissed the recent indictments of 12 Russian military intelligence officers as “hearsay,” and

he also butted heads some more with Rollins and Goodwin when they expressed doubt that the summit was a success, as Dobbs argued.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/lou-dobbs-slams-morons-criticizing-trump-over-putin-summit-this-is-stupid-stuff/

another old white senile fucking asshole, sucking off Trash

[boutons_deux]

Pootin LIES! :lol

Putin: Trump was 'of no interest' to Russia before 2016 election (http://theweek.com/speedreads/785253/putin-trump-no-interest-russia-before-2016-election)

In an interview Monday with Fox News' Chris Wallace, :lol

Russian President Vladimir

Putin said it is "ridiculous" to believe Russia could influence Americans from so far away. :lol

Putin also denied being "this kind of a strongman that I'm being portrayed,"

and told Wallace that no one in Russia gave any thought to President Trump before the election.

"I don't want to insult President Trump when I say this —

and I may come as rude —

but before he announced he will run for presidency, he was of no interest for us,"

http://theweek.com/speedreads/785253/putin-trump-no-interest-russia-before-2016-election

[pgardn]

Why does it matter how complicated the hack was?

I think I asked you this one of the last 1200 times you've trotted out this lazy defensive canard and you never answered.

The Russians sent waves of people at the Germans during WWII in a very unsophisticated but effective manner.
They shot soildiers who retreated. But it was not an attack as it lacked sophistication.

Darrin.
What the Russians did and continue to do is very effective and also traceable.
So you think we just take it, no big deal. Who are these guys using very potent simple disruption.
They are just doing what we would do....

Cool.
Snowflake.

[Pavlov]

It’s a mythtery. :lolDamn you're a pussy, Darrin.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

It’s a mythtery. :lol
Good one, Dad :tu

[Spurminator]

A real “attack” would not be so low tech and so sloppy. Unless, they just suck at it.

A real attack would be attempted in a variety of ways. You think they would have just given up if the phishing link didn't work? lol

[ducks]

Remember never trumpers would have preferred Hillary be nominating SCOTUS justices.

[pgardn]

Remember never trumpers would have preferred Hillary be nominating SCOTUS justices.

Yes Ducks.

Your team has won that battle.
And maybe the long haul war.

[ducks]

A former National Security Council spokesman refuted CNN’s statement about why he junked a scheduled appearance — asserting it was because of the outlet’s "atrocious" coverage of President Donald Trump.

During her “Outfront” show Monday night, host Erin Burnett announced Michael Anton had declined to appear because he "could not defend the president” in the wake of a controversial joint news conference with Vladimir Putin.

"From the moment President Trump's press conference ended, CNN's coverage was atrocious and histrionic," Anton told The Hill in an emailed rebuttal.


"I did cancel, because I knew that whatever I said, CNN would try to use me as a cudgel with which to bash the President. I support President Trump and I never want to be misused as an instrument to undermine him




Gee I wonder why trump did not go to cnn

[Pavlov]

A former National Security Council spokesman refuted CNN’s statement about why he junked a scheduled appearance — asserting it was because of the outlet’s "atrocious" coverage of President Donald Trump.

During her “Outfront” show Monday night, host Erin Burnett announced Michael Anton had declined to appear because he "could not defend the president” in the wake of a controversial joint news conference with Vladimir Putin.

"From the moment President Trump's press conference ended, CNN's coverage was atrocious and histrionic," Anton told The Hill in an emailed rebuttal.


"I did cancel, because I knew that whatever I said, CNN would try to use me as a cudgel with which to bash the President. I support President Trump and I never want to be misused as an instrument to undermine him




Gee I wonder why trump did not go to cnnHe couldn't spin it either.

lol

[spurraider21]

Yes. Well documented.
And you think that immediately excludes the possibility of a Russian backed effort?

[Spurminator]

Real burglars don't just get into an unlocked car and steal the stereo, they're looking for a more complicated heist.

[DarrinS]

And you think that immediately excludes the possibility of a Russian backed effort?

It was a very weak effort, but Obama told them to ‘cut it out”, so there’s that.

[Pavlov]

It was a very weak effort, but Obama told them to ‘cut it out”, so there’s that.Jesus, Darrin. You just have to announce you don't give a shit about anything but your beloved Trump in every post.

[spurraider21]

It was a very weak effort, but Obama told them to ‘cut it out”, so there’s that.
doesn't answer my question and throws in obligatory obama snark

[DarrinS]

doesn't answer my question and throws in obligatory obama snark

Just seems like a very unsophisticated “attack” to me. Sorry.

[spurraider21]

Just seems like a very unsophisticated “attack” to me. Sorry.
and that in and of itself rules out the chance that the russians played any role in it?

[Spurminator]

So you can't decide if the DNC was hacked by Russians because of Obama, or if they weren't hacked by the Russians because it wasn't sophisticated enough. I can't decide if this is a textbook case of cognitive dissonance or if you're just hedging bets to protect yourself from having to criticize Donald Trump, who you seem to fall more in love with every day.

[Chris]

DNC hired Crowdstrike to destroy the servers. Take it up with the DNC and the HQ Special they got from Comey's FBI.

[Pavlov]

DNC hired Crowdstrike to destroy the servers. Take it up with the DNC and the HQ Special they got from Comey's FBI.Where did you get this information, Chris?

[Pavlov]

Here's a link saying you're completely full of shit, Chris:

Trump’s ‘Missing DNC Server’ Is Neither Missing Nor a Server (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-missing-dnc-server-is-neither-missing-nor-a-server)

[Chris]

lol dailybeast

[Pavlov]

lol dailybeast
Question pending, Chris.

Where did you get your information?

[ElNono]

ehhh... you can't say the attack wasn't sophisticated when it was coordinated to attack over 300+ people and took over a year for actual forensic pros to put all the details together.

Eventually, all attacks are found and traced back (see Stuxnet), what matters is timing, and it that sense, this worked.

Also, lots of folks here were laughing at Shillary when she was denouncing Russia for hacking into the DCC, let's see if they will admit she was right all along.

She might be the most unlikeable politico in the world, tbh, and I don't know any email leaks or not would change that, but she was spot-on on this one.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Tells Hannity: ‘We’re Doing Really Well With Russia As Of Today’

‘We’ve had a phony witch hunt deal drive us apart,” the president said after the Helsinki summit.

President Donald Trump (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/donald-trump) defended his statements after meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/vladimir-putin) on Monday,

crediting himself with defusing tension between the two nations while praising his counterpart as “very, very strong.”

he said the Russian leader told him it was a “shame” that special counsel Robert Mueller (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/robert-mueller)’s investigation into 2016 campaign interference had driven a wedge between the two countries.

“Maybe we just knocked down that wedge, but it has driven a wedge, and President Putin said that,”

Trump told Hannity.

“One of the early things he said when we started was:

‘It’s really a shame, because we could do so much good.’

And they drove a phony wedge.

It’s a phony witch hunt.”

“It’s a sad thing,” Trump continued.

“It’s a very sad thing for our country to see this.” :lol Trash gives a shit? :lol

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-helsinki-sean-hannity-fox-news-interview_us_5b4d3ebae4b0b15aba879654?utm_medium=e mail&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__071718&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__071718+CID_da796f16 bac52e5d60dd97a2d5b24bd1&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__071718 (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-helsinki-sean-hannity-fox-news-interview_us_5b4d3ebae4b0b15aba879654?utm_medium=e mail&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__071718&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__071718+CID_da796f16 bac52e5d60dd97a2d5b24bd1&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__071718)

Trash's brain is shot, diseased, his vocab is at level of a 10 year old at best, his short sentences are not even good sound bites.

and of course he lives in wishful-thinking fantasy world of his own making, absent all "reality testing"

His kakistocracy Exec cabinet should go 25th on him, but of course, they are corrupt, co-opted, complicit.

Fuck them all.

[boutons_deux]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiQyCu0WAAAv81B.jpg

[boutons_deux]

European Politicians Alarmed By Trump’s ‘Ridiculous’ Russia Stance

The president is sending other countries threatened by Moscow a message that ‘You’re on your own,’” one British MP said.

European lawmakers say President Donald Trump’s stunning news conference (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-fails-condemn-putin_us_5b4ca50fe4b022fdcc5b9799) on Monday with Russian President Vladimir Putin

sent a message to other countries with democratic political systems similarly targeted for interference by Moscow that they cannot count on the U.S. to stand with them.

To deny evidence [of Russia’s meddling in the U.S.] is effectively to say to other countries who are victims [of] this... ‘You’re on your own,’”

He has been intensifying his criticism of longstanding U.S. allies, going so far in a CBS News interview to categorize the European Union as a “foe.” (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-declares-european-union-foe_us_5b4b64ffe4b022fdcc5a36eb?jtk)

“It’s a very difficult time for Europe right now,“Kalniņš said.

“All of this is playing into the hands of Mr. Putin,

who wants to weaken Europe

because the way he can make Russia great is by making everyone else weaker.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-putin-european-lawmakers_us_5b4cf377e4b0b15aba87546d?utm_medium=e mail&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__071718&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__071718+CID_da796f16 bac52e5d60dd97a2d5b24bd1&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__071718

Trash and complicit, dickless Repugs are now clinically insane.

[boutons_deux]

Trump's Helsinki Bow To Putin Leaves World Wondering: Why?





Much of America was watching, and much of the world. And you could hear the question arising from countless places at once:

"What is going on?"

one weekend story in The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/14/us/politics/trump-russia-putin.html) — based on several anonymous sources described as close to the president — suggested that

the president's pride in winning the White House simply cannot abide any suggestion that he had help.

The story was far from flattering, suggesting

an ego so boundless as to substitute personal myth for plain reality — not to mention the national interest.

This "everyone does it" defense was picked up by Sen. Rand Paul, (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/rand-paul-election-meddling-russia-722205) the Kentucky Republican, among others.

Jonathan Chait's frankly speculative construct in New York magazine (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/trump-putin-russia-collusion.html) that suggests

Trump became involved with various Russian figures as far back as the late 1980s,

when he needed money and could not raise it in the U.S. —

a situation that has recurred several times since with far larger sums of money.

a reporter for the Associated Press

asked Putin directly if he had incriminating material on President Trump.

The question caused a stir in the ornate ballroom filled with dignitaries from several countries.

Putin dismissed the idea with a wry smile, noting that

as a former KGB officer he knows "how dossiers are made up."

Trump began talking about Hillary Clinton's missing emails and the "brilliant campaign" he had run in 2016 — citing the tally from the Electoral College.

It was as if the need to keep that Election Night feeling alive was greater

than the need to deal with the geopolitical situation at hand and defend the international rule of law.

Greater also than the need to support NATO and its mission to hold Putin accountable.

And greater than the first commitment of any president to protect the national security and preserve the democracy of the United States.

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/17/629601233/trumps-helsinki-bow-to-putin-leaves-world-wondering-whats-up

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiQyCu0WAAAv81B.jpgit strikes me as ominous that loyalty to country is tacitly defined here as support for intelligence agencies -- and that it is Democrats who are lining up behind them, against the president. seems to me nothing could underscore alt-right DERP STATE persecution fantasies better: the political establishment backing unelected bureaucrats over POTUS.

But fuck it, DJT made this bed, let him lie in it.

Nobody made him or his underlings lie about contacts/meetings with Russians. Nobody made DJT slag his own executive agencies or mollycoddle Putin.

[boutons_deux]

How Russia Conquered America — Without Firing a Bullet

What Happens When a Society Uses Democracy to Undo Its Own Sovereignty?

What a strange, weird, and chilling thing the world saw today.

An American president meekly, proudly handing over the keys to the house of democracy, to its most historic foe, in a bizarre, global, public spectacle.

Wasn’t it humiliating?

I think

Russia didn’t need to fire a bullet because it realized that all it needed to do was help finish what America itself had started.

The project of undoing a democracy — using a democracy.

three strands, an

economic one,

a social one, and

a cultural one.

Together, I think, they produced

a nation that was hollow, fragile, empty broken inside

 — and thus

ready to be conquered by a foe, with a mere gentle act of seduction, not even a war, a fight, or a long and bitter struggle.

https://eand.co/how-russia-conquered-america-without-firing-a-bullet-36d9f0132b8c (https://eand.co/how-russia-conquered-america-without-firing-a-bullet-36d9f0132b8c)

[pgardn]

Democracy has inherent weakness in its openness.

That being said...

How Russia conquered America...
Give us a break.

[Winehole23]

far from conclusive, but Will Bunch identifies two ways Russian hacking could have moved the needle: by fouling voter rolls and stealing HRC's analytics.

http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/will_bunch/russian-spies-hacking-trump-democratic-election-20180715.html

[Winehole23]

Jack Goldsmith puts his finger on a question that should be asked: what would getting serious about cyber-intrusion of US elections look like?


The question is what the United States should do about the unacceptable operations in 2016. So far, it hasn't done much. As I have long (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/31/AR2010013101834.html)argued (https://www.lawfareblog.com/contrarian-thoughts-russia-and-presidential-election), I think the United States’ failure to look in the mirror is a large part of the problem. This is a difficult and painful thing to say the same day the president of the United States stood next to Putin, discredited U.S. intelligence agencies, and said “we’re all to blame” for the poor state of U.S.-Russia relations. I am certainly not blaming U.S. intelligence agencies, which don’t control U.S. strategic decisions, for anything. But the reality is that the United States government engages in substantially similar behavior to that which the Russians used to cause us great harm.https://www.lawfareblog.com/uncomfortable-questions-wake-russia-indictment-20-and-trumps-press-conference-putin

[Winehole23]

doing away with electronic voting machines and keeping voter rolls on paper might help a lot. lo tech records are harder for foreigners to hack.

[boutons_deux]

Democracy has inherent weakness in its openness.

That being said...

How Russia conquered America...
Give us a break.

Trash and the Repug party, infatuated with Pootin, have been compromised by the much smarter Pootin and his GRU mafiya.

Repugs own Congress, SCOTUS, WH and most of the states, and they are all infatuated with an adversary who wants NOTHING BUT ILL, nothing but chaos and decline, for USA, for the greater glory of Mother Russia.

Has anybody heard any significant leaders of the oligarchy complaining about Repugs being compromised by Pootin?

[pgardn]

Trash and the Repug party, infatuated with Pootin, have been compromised by the much smarter Pootin and his GRU mafiya.

Repugs own Congress, SCOTUS, WH and most of the states, and they are all infatuated with an adversary who wants NOTHING BUT ILL, nothing but chaos and decline, for USA, for the greater glory of Mother Russia.

Has anybody heard any significant leaders of the oligarchy complaining about Repugs being compromised by Pootin?

In the Cold War you are a far right winger.

They have conquered us...
Overstating/exaggerations gonna help this.

[Winehole23]

more implications of DJT's peculiar leadership:


It is no minor matter that a president actively undermines the work of those officials charged day to day with the defense of the country. We are not speaking here of a contested policy issue but a threat from a foreign adversary about which there is consensus among defense and security experts in both Congress and the executive branch. Who is to say—and when would we know for sure—that Trump’s refusal to acknowledge the dimensions of this threat would not have consequences for the shape or implementation of critical countermeasures? It is highly unlikely that his foreign policy and national security team thought Trump should meet one on one (https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/02/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-meeting/index.html) with Putin in Helsinki, with neither aides nor note-takers present. But he did it, for more than two hours, and we are left to trust in the word of these heads of state about what they discussed and what they agreed or did not agree to.https://www.lawfareblog.com/standards-impeachment-trumps-defense-putin-face-russias-electoral-attacks

[Reck]

ehhh... you can't say the attack wasn't sophisticated when it was coordinated to attack over 300+ people and took over a year for actual forensic pros to put all the details together.

Eventually, all attacks are found and traced back (see Stuxnet), what matters is timing, and it that sense, this worked.

Also, lots of folks here were laughing at Shillary when she was denouncing Russia for hacking into the DCC, let's see if they will admit she was right all along.

She might be the most unlikeable politico in the world, tbh, and I don't know any email leaks or not would change that, but she was spot-on on this one.

I see that this post retired DarrinS (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2042) and his ilk outta this thread. :lol

[Winehole23]

not a bad recap:


Suppose a president refuses to accept extensive evidence, validated by executive-branch and congressional investigations, that a foreign power has engaged in aggressive subversion of the American electoral process. The actions include hacking into the files of political party organizations and attempts to penetrate the voter registration records maintained by state boards of elections. The intelligence community and Congress each report their conclusions that these attacks will continue.

The president aggressively questions these findings in communications with the American public, and he signals to the leader of the hostile foreign state that he will not join in the condemnation of these aggressive cyberattacks.

The president also fires the official in charge of the investigation into the Russian interventions and reassures representatives of this foreign state in person, in the Oval Office, that he thereby removed a source of “great pressure” (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html) on the relationship he wants with that nation. He then launches a series of virulent public attacks on the special counsel who is subsequently appointed to investigate the full extent of this electoral intervention and any collusion that may have taken place with U.S. citizens or organizations.

The president reports that in their direct discussions, the foreign leader denied the well-documented intervention. He then meets with the leader of a foreign power at an internationally televised summit and raises no objection or question when his counterpart repeats the denial. Instead, stressing that the foreign leader “feels strongly” about the falseness of the accusations, he suggests that he sees no reason to accept the findings of American intelligence officials rather than the foreign leader’s denials. The president then reiterates that the inquiry into the electoral interventions is “ridiculous” and a “disaster for the country.” On the eve of this meeting, he had delivered this same message to the American public in a tweet (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1018738368753078273).

[Winehole23]

benefit of a doubt:


Assume one gives the president the benefit of the doubt and accepts that his behavior on the Russia issue is not just pique at any suggestion that his electoral victory was tainted. Perhaps he imagines that he is making better “policy.” He might even have believed that it was in the interests of an adjustment in “policy” toward Russia that he should win the election and encourage and accept Putin’s assistance toward that end. He might also have believed that firing James Comey would justifiably subordinate law enforcement interests—especially ones he so intensely discounts— to his judgment of the larger policy imperatives. And to make all this work, he might think he can lie to the public about the Russian behavior, to limit public pressure on him to take more vigorous actions to counter Kremlin electoral interference.

[Winehole23]

I see that this post retired DarrinS (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2042) and his ilk outta this thread. :lolhunkered down. the reluctance to take potshots from Blue team superpatriots is understandable, and the defenses available may not seem advantageous.

there's a distinct possibility L'Affaire Russe could become an even bigger wedge in the right wing.

[boutons_deux]

benefit of a doubt:

nope, that's bullshit, way too complicated.

Occam's Razor, it's all right before everybody's eyes

Trash isn't a strategic thinker, he's short-term, reflexive puncher intent on hurting anyone who bothers him.

Trash, who is his ONLY interest, egomaniacal self-interest, is beholden to Pootin and his mafiya,

either due to the $100Ms, $Bs?, that Russians have sluiced into Trash's orgs (and why he refuses to release tax returns. but Mueller has them)

and/or

the pee or other compromising recordings are real.

My guess is that it's not "or", it's "and".

It was Pootin's suggestions the Trash cancel the war games with SK, which Trash did without gaining anything.

Let's see what other tasks that Pootin has assigned to Trash.

[Winehole23]

guess you didn't follow the link

[boutons_deux]

guess you didn't follow the link

link?

[boutons_deux]

The truth about Trump and Russia that Republicans cannot say out loud

How many of those statements from Republicans also acknowledged the conclusion of the intelligence community that

the goal of that Russian interference was to elect Trump?

Obviously.

Republicans are reluctant to say that out loud, because it might diminish the greatness of Trump’s victory, which would anger him and his voters.

But I think this gaping hole in the public posture of the GOP hints at deeper truths about the predicament that Republicans — and all of us — are consumed with right now.

many Republicans are privately worried that Trump’s display with Putin will hurt them in November’s midterm elections.

Their concerns:

Republicans lose when the focus is on the Russia investigation and Trump’s temperamental recklessness,

and not on the economy, and

swing voters aren’t going to side with Trump on this matter.

As one aide to a vulnerable House Republican put it:

“Is there an independent, swing voter in the country who would say:

‘Yeah, I really think Putin is telling the truth and the U.S. Department of Justice is the real problem?’ ”

the Republican base sides with Trump (and increasingly with Putin, as well (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/trump-nato-summit-putin-russia-collusion.html))

against special counsel Robert S. Mueller III.

As one House Republican suggested to CNBC’s John Harwood (https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1019187239245549570),

Republicans must be careful about opposing Trump when they stand up for the Russia inquiry, because “my constituents love him.”

these statements do this in a limited way:

They don’t acknowledge the intelligence services’ consensus view that the Russian sabotage effort was designed to elect Trump.

the House Intelligence Committee,

which has been converted by Trump loyalists into a bad-faith effort to undermine the Mueller probe,

conspicuously refused (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/05/16/the-russia-report-trump-likes-best-just-took-a-big-credibility-hit/) to reach that conclusion.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=836 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=836)

So Repugs' political power of winning elections, which is more important honesty, ethics, morals, America, is more important than an illegit Repug so-called President elected by Pootin.

[boutons_deux]

The truth about Trump and Russia that Republicans cannot say out loud

How many of those statements from Republicans also acknowledged the conclusion of the intelligence community that

the goal of that Russian interference was to elect Trump?

Obviously.

Republicans are reluctant to say that out loud, because it might diminish the greatness of Trump’s victory, which would anger him and his voters.

But I think this gaping hole in the public posture of the GOP hints at deeper truths about the predicament that Republicans — and all of us — are consumed with right now.

many Republicans are privately worried that Trump’s display with Putin will hurt them in November’s midterm elections.

Their concerns:

Republicans lose when the focus is on the Russia investigation and Trump’s temperamental recklessness,

and not on the economy, and

swing voters aren’t going to side with Trump on this matter.

As one aide to a vulnerable House Republican put it:

“Is there an independent, swing voter in the country who would say:

‘Yeah, I really think Putin is telling the truth and the U.S. Department of Justice is the real problem?’ ”

the Republican base sides with Trump (and increasingly with Putin, as well)

against special counsel Robert S. Mueller III.

As one House Republican suggested to CNBC’s John Harwood,

Republicans must be careful about opposing Trump when they stand up for the Russia inquiry, because “my constituents love him.”

these statements do this in a limited way:

They don’t acknowledge the intelligence services’ consensus view that the Russian sabotage effort was designed to elect Trump.

the House Intelligence Committee,

which has been converted by Trump loyalists into a bad-faith effort to undermine the Mueller probe,

conspicuously refused (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/05/16/the-russia-report-trump-likes-best-just-took-a-big-credibility-hit/) to reach that conclusion.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=836 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=836)

So Repugs' political power of winning elections, which is more important honesty, ethics, morals, America, is more important than an illegit Repug so-called President elected by Pootin.

[boutons_deux]

The truth about Trump and Russia that Republicans cannot say out loud

How many of those statements from Republicans also acknowledged the conclusion of the intelligence community that

the goal of that Russian interference was to elect Trump?

Republicans are reluctant to say that out loud,

because it might diminish the greatness of Trump’s victory, which would anger him and his voters.

But I think this gaping hole in the public posture of the GOP hints at deeper truths about the predicament that Republicans — and all of us — are consumed with right now.

many Republicans are privately worried that Trump’s display with Putin will hurt them in November’s midterm elections.

Their concerns:

Republicans lose when the focus is on the Russia investigation and Trump’s temperamental recklessness,

and not on the economy, and

swing voters aren’t going to side with Trump on this matter.

As one aide to a vulnerable House Republican put it:

“Is there an independent, swing voter in the country who would say:

‘Yeah, I really think Putin is telling the truth and the U.S. Department of Justice is the real problem?’ ”

the Republican base sides with Trump (and increasingly with Putin, as well)

against special counsel Robert S. Mueller III.

As one House Republican suggested to CNBC’s John Harwood,

Republicans must be careful about opposing Trump when they stand up for the Russia inquiry, because “my constituents love him.”

these statements do this in a limited way:

They don’t acknowledge the intelligence services’ consensus view that the Russian sabotage effort was designed to elect Trump.

the House Intelligence Committee,

which has been converted by Trump loyalists into a bad-faith effort to undermine the Mueller probe,

conspicuously refused to reach that conclusion.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=836

So Repugs' political power of winning elections with Trash's scary cult,

which is more important than honesty, ethics, morals, America,

is more important than an illegit Repug so-called President elected by Pootin.

[boutons_deux]

The truth about Trump and Russia that Republicans cannot say out loud

How many of those statements from Republicans also acknowledged the conclusion of the intelligence community that

the goal of that Russian interference was to elect Trump?

Republicans are reluctant to say that out loud,

because it might diminish the greatness of Trump’s victory, which would anger him and his voters.

But I think this gaping hole in the public posture of the GOP hints at deeper truths about the predicament that Republicans — and all of us — are consumed with right now.

many Republicans are privately worried that Trump’s display with Putin will hurt them in November’s midterm elections.

Their concerns:

Republicans lose when the focus is on the Russia investigation and Trump’s temperamental recklessness,

and not on the economy, and

swing voters aren’t going to side with Trump on this matter.

As one aide to a vulnerable House Republican put it:

“Is there an independent, swing voter in the country who would say:

‘Yeah, I really think Putin is telling the truth and the U.S. Department of Justice is the real problem?’ ”

the Republican base sides with Trump (and increasingly with Putin, as well)

against special counsel Robert S. Mueller III.

As one House Republican suggested to CNBC’s John Harwood,

Republicans must be careful about opposing Trump when they stand up for the Russia inquiry, because “my constituents love him.”

these statements do this in a limited way:

They don’t acknowledge the intelligence services’ consensus view that the Russian sabotage effort was designed to elect Trump.

the House Intelligence Committee,

which has been converted by Trump loyalists into a bad-faith effort to undermine the Mueller probe,

conspicuously refused to reach that conclusion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/07/17/the-truth-about-trump-and-russia-that-republicans-cannot-say-out-loud/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2234701aafb5&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

So Repugs' political power of winning elections with Trash's scary cult,

which is more important than honesty, ethics, morals, America,

is more important than an illegit Repug so-called President elected by Pootin.

[Winehole23]

link?yeah, the lawfare link

[boutons_deux]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/839938827837976576/leN1zJJx_bigger.jpg (https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton)Hillary Clinton
(https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton)
(https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton)✔@HillaryClinton
(https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton)
Well, now we know.

======

Hillary Clinton
(https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1018650325354467328)✔@HillaryClinton

(https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1018650325354467328)Great World Cup.

Question for President Trump as he meets Putin:

Do you know which team you play for?

(https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1018650325354467328)4:34 PM - Jul 16, 2018 (https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1018972082816811009)

================

I think the idea that Trash is compromised, a traitor, an illegit President, thanks to Pootin, will now be more openly, more frequently talked about.

[boutons_deux]

Trump's Most Fervent Supporter Cancels TV Appearance, Refusing to Defend #TreasonSummit (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/16/1781130/-Trump-s-Most-Fervent-Supporter-Cancels-TV-Appearance-Refusing-to-Defend-TreasonSummit)

Salon referred to

as the “Dystopian Prophet (https://www.salon.com/2017/02/03/trumps-dystopian-prophet-anonymous-essayist-who-compared-the-election-to-flight-93-is-now-a-white-house-aide/)” and the “leading intellectual of the Trump revolution” for his ridiculous, over-the-top

essay comparing the Trump movement to the heroes of Flight 93: :lol

2016 is the Flight 93 election: charge the cockpit or you die.

You may die anyway.

You—or the leader of your party—may make it into the cockpit and not know how to fly or land the plane.

There are no guarantees.

Except one: if you don’t try, death is certain.

To compound the metaphor:

a Hillary Clinton presidency is Russian Roulette with a semi-auto.


His essay was circulated widely in conservative circles, and

is credited for pushing many skeptics into Trump’s camp.

Anton has been a lapdog for Trump ever since.

Until now.

CNN's Erin Burnett had him scheduled to appear on her show

to provide Trump’s defense of his performance in Helsinki, Finland.

In case you missed it, in just one day:

an American journalist was forcibly removed;

Trump blamed the US (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/07/16/donald-trump-the-blame-america-first-president/?utm_term=.8b34b217c417)for our problems with Russia;

Trump threw every US intelligence agency under the bus;

Trump explicitly refused to denounce the Russian attack on our elections; and

groveled to Putin so much that

even Fox News had enough (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/trump-putin-conference-right-reaction).

This summit followed a week of

Trump insulting Germany (http://www.cnn.com/2018/07/10/politics/donald-trump-nato-summit-2018/index.html),

threatening to dismantle NATO,

insulting the British prime minister, and

fist-bumping the Turkish dictator Erdogan

after telling him he “does things the right way” (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-fist-bumped-turkish-leader-erdogan-said-he-does-things-the-right-way/).

Yet

Michael Anton could always be counted on to give a full-throated defense of the Donald,

or so we thought. Today, he just couldn’t do it.

Really, what was he supposed to say?

Erin Burnett explained on her show: (https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/fervent-trump-supporter-cancels-cnn-appearance-because-hes-not-going-defend-putin)


"He was scheduled to be on the show, and

he's not on because he said

he's not going to defend what [Trump] did today," Burnett said.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/16/1781130/-Trump-s-Most-Fervent-Supporter-Cancels-TV-Appearance-Refusing-to-Defend-TreasonSummit?detail=emaildkre

[boutons_deux]

"Aboard Air Force One back to Washington,

Mr. Trump’s mood grew foul

as the breadth of the critical reactions became clear,

according to some people briefed on the flight.

Aides steered clear of the front of the plane

to avoid being tapped for a venting session with Mr. Trump."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/16/world/europe/trump-putin-election-intelligence.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

:lol

Trash is smart? He has NO IDEA of how he is seen, how his BULLSHIT is taken

I bet he schedules a campaign rally soon so his ignorant, duped cult can cheer him up.

[boutons_deux]

McConnell and Paul Ryan just broke with Trump on Russia with defiant condemnations

Both Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Republican Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (R-WI) spoke out in public opposition to Trump’s shameful kowtowing to the Kremlin.

“There is no question that Russia interfered in our election and continues attempts to undermine democracy here and around the world,” Ryan said (https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/16/house-speaker-paul-ryan-contradicts-trump-says-russia-meddled-2016/789061002/).

“The president must appreciate that Russia is not our ally.”
“I have said a number of times, I’ll say it again:

The Russians are not our friends.

And I entirely believe the assessment of our intelligence community,” McConnell said (https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/397281-mcconnell-russians-are-not-our-friends).

https://washingtonpress.com/2018/07/16/mcconnell-and-paul-ryan-just-broke-with-trump-on-russia-with-defiant-condemnations/

[Chris]

1019210520979755008

tee hee

[boutons_deux]

Trash folds like limp dick

Trump Walks Back Controversial Comments On Russian Election Interference

President Trump attempted some damage control Tuesday, saying "I accept" the findings of the U.S. intelligence community that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential campaign.

But he again repeated his claim that there was no collusion between his Presidential campaign and Russia.

Trump added that he has "full faith and support for America's great intelligence agencies."

"I accept our intelligence community's conclusion that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election took place," Trump said, but then calling into question the extent of his acceptance, adding that it "could be other people also, there are a lot of people out there."

Trump walked back his comments after top Republican Congressional leaders implicitly criticized Trump's initial remarks in Finland Tuesday.

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/17/629764949/ryan-vladimir-putin-does-not-share-our-interests?sc=tw

:lol what a fucking, light-weight, ignorant Putin-cock sucker

Next admission:

"Yes, Pootin meddled in the Pres campaign,

EFFECTIVELY,

such that I was fraudulently elected.

THERE FUCKING FORE

I, Don The Con Trash, am NOT a legitimate President."

[Pavlov]

:lmao Trying damage control by flip-flopping then immediately flip-flopping again in the next sentence.

Waffles Dennison is the weakest president in US history.

[boutons_deux]

Mariia Butina and the Open Secrets of the Russia Scandal

Butina will go down in history as perhaps the first person to publicly ask Trump what his policy toward Russian sanctions would be if he were President.

In July, 2015, a few weeks after Trump declared his candidacy,

he called on her—

apparently at random

—during an event in Las Vegas.

“Do you want to continue the politics of sanctions that are damaging of both economies?” Butina asked.

“I believe I would get along very nicely with Putin, O.K.?” Trump replied.

“I don’t think you’d need the sanctions.”

Later, according to Michael Isikoff and David Corn’s book, “Russian Roulette,”

the Trump campaign advisers

Steve Bannon (https://www.newyorker.com/tag/steve-bannon) and Reince Priebus (https://www.newyorker.com/tag/reince-priebus) worried about this exchange.

“How was it that this Russian woman happened to be in Las Vegas for that event?

And how was it that Trump happened to call on her?

And Trump’s response?”

Isikoff and Corn wrote (https://twitter.com/Isikoff/status/1018991836629815302).

“It was odd, Bannon thought, that

Trump had a fully developed answer.

Priebus agreed there was something strange about Butina.

Whenever there were events held by conservative groups, she was always around,

he told Bannon.”

Several months ago, Butina’s lawyer told (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/maria-butina-russian-gun-rights-advocate-charged-in-us-with-acting-as-russian-federation-agent/2018/07/16/d1d4832a-8929-11e8-85ae-511bc1146b0b_story.html) a federal judge on Monday,

she testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee in a closed-door session.

Journalists have been on Butina’s trail since at least the spring (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-republican-right-found-allies-in-russia/2017/04/30/e2d83ff6-29d3-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html) of last year.

Trump’s closest advisers have had suspicions about her since the campaign.

Now she’s facing federal charges,

and the public is being asked to catch up.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/mariia-butina-and-the-open-secrets-of-the-russia-scandal?mbid=nl_Daily%20071718&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=13890101&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1441431608&spReportId=MTQ0MTQzMTYwOAS2

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[ducks]

Mueller Suspected of Giving Podesta Brothers Immunity to Indict Manafort and Is HIDING THIS FROM PUBLIC

[Chris]

Mueller Suspected of Giving Podesta Brothers Immunity to Indict Manafort and Is HIDING THIS FROM PUBLIC

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ruh roh raggy!

[ducks]

Vladimir Putin does a lot for his country considering he’s only paid the measly salary of $112,000 a year

[clambake]

Vladimir Putin does a lot for his country considering he’s only paid the measly salary of $112,000 a year

ducks has lost his mind.

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the FBI and intelligence community launched an investigation which trump has since tried to shut down :lmao

you saw how big a shitstorm we got when the FBI started publicly talking about clinton's investigations... imagine all the "deep state" conspiracies if the FBI publicly announced that they are looking into russian meddling with the intention of helping trump and possible collusion

[pgardn]

ducks has lost his mind.


Holy shit I did not even catch that...

Ducks can’t lose something he never had...
Poor Putin, can’t buy a meal...

Actual Ducks are shot for less than this.

[pgardn]

the FBI and intelligence community launched an investigation which trump has since tried to shut down :lmao

you saw how big a shitstorm we got when the FBI started publicly talking about clinton's investigations... imagine all the "deep state" conspiracies if the FBI publicly announced that they are looking into russian meddling with the intention of helping trump and possible collusion

Guarantee Chris whiffs on this but good try.

[Chris]

the FBI and intelligence community launched an investigation which trump has since tried to shut down :lmao

you saw how big a shitstorm we got when the FBI started publicly talking about clinton's investigations... imagine all the "deep state" conspiracies if the FBI publicly announced that they are looking into russian meddling with the intention of helping trump and possible collusion


The Obama White House’s chief cyber official testified Wednesday that proposals he was developing to counter Russia’s attack on the U.S. presidential election were put on a “back burner” after he was ordered to “stand down” his efforts in the summer of 2016."

The Obama White House’s chief cyber official testified Wednesday that proposals he was developing to counter Russia’s attack on the U.S. presidential election were put on a “back burner” after he was ordered to “stand down” his efforts in the summer of 2016.

The comments by Michael Daniel, who served as White House “cyber security coordinator” between 2012 and January of last year, provided his first public confirmation of a much-discussed passage in the book, “Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin’s War on America and the Election of Donald Trump,” co-written by this reporter and David Corn, that detailed his thwarted efforts to respond to the Russian attack.

They came during a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing into how the Obama administration dealt with Russian cyber and information warfare attacks in 2016, an issue that has become one of the more politically sensitive subjects in the panel’s ongoing investigation into Russia’s interference in the U.S. election and any links to the Trump campaign.

But Wallander and Daniel’s bosses at the White House were not on board. One day in late August, national security adviser Susan Rice called Daniel into her office and demanded he cease and desist from working on the cyber options he was developing. “Don’t get ahead of us,” she warned him. The White House was not prepared to endorse any of these ideas. Daniel and his team in the White House cyber response group were given strict orders: Stand down. She told Daniel to “knock it off,” he recalled.

Daniel walked back to his office. “That was one pissed-off national security adviser,” he told one of his aides.

At his morning staff meeting, Daniel matter of factly said to his team it had to stop work on options to counter the Russian attack: “We’ve been told to stand down.” Daniel Prieto, one of Daniel’s top deputies, recalled, “I was incredulous and in disbelief. It took me a moment to process. In my head I was like, Did I hear that correctly?” Then Prieto asked, “Why the hell are we standing down? Michael, can you help us understand? “Daniel informed them that the orders came from both Rice and Monaco. They were concerned that were the options to leak, it would force Obama to act. “They didn’t want to box the president in,” Prieto subsequently said.

When asked about this passage from Russian Roulette, Daniel corroborated it as “an accurate rendering of what happened.” In fact, the stand-down order came along with a mandate to start cutting the number of personnel working on the issue:

[Daniel] said his bosses at the NSC — he did not specifically mention Rice in his testimony — had concerns about “how many people were working on the options” so the “decision” from his superiors at the Obama White House was to “neck down the number of people that were involved in developing our ongoing response options.”

Daniel added that “it’s not accurate to say that all activity ceased at that point.” He and his staff “shifted our focus” to assisting state governments to protect against Russian cyberattacks against state and local election systems.

But as for his work on developing cyber deterrence measures, “those actions were put on a back burner and that was not the focus of our activity during that time period.”

Let’s not forget that this took place after Obama rejected efforts by Tom Cotton to strengthen the US posture against Russian cyberwarfare and disinformation campaigns. Cotton had raised alarms about this issue starting in 2015, but the Obama administration argued that Cotton’s proposal would duplicate existing efforts — at the time when Susan Rice was shutting those efforts down:

The White House opposed a Republican-led push earlier this year to create an executive-branch task force to battle Russia’s covert information operations, according to a document obtained by POLITICO.

Sen. Tom Cotton, a leading GOP defense hawk who has long urged President Barack Obama to take a harder line on Russia, sought to force the White House to create a panel with representatives from a number of government agencies to counter Russian efforts “to exert covert influence,” including by exposing Russian “falsehoods, agents of influence, corruption, human rights abuses, terrorism, and assassinations.”

But the administration rejected the call, saying in a letter to Congress that hasn’t been released publicly that the panel would duplicate existing efforts to battle Russian influence operations — an argument Cotton rejects.

And at the same time as that, the Obama administration was dismantling a State Department program to combat Russian disinformation campaigns in cyberspace:

Nearly a year ago, the State Department created a Counter-Disinformation Team, inside its Bureau of International Information Programs, as a small, start-up effort to resist Russian disinformation. Consisting of only a handful of staffers, it was supposed to expose the most laughable Moscow lies about America and the West that are disseminated regularly via RT and other outlets. They created a beta website and prepared to wage the struggle for truth online.

Alas, their website never went live. Recently the State Department shut down the tiny Counter-Disinformation Team and any efforts by the Obama administration to resist Putin’s propaganda can now be considered dead before birth. Intelligence Community sources tell me that it was closed out of a deep desire inside the White House “not to upset the Russians.” …

Who killed the Counter-Disinformation Team and why? What did the team produce during the time it existed? What has become of this product? How many people were on it? Does the State Department not consider countering Kremlin disinformation to be in its remit? Does the White House agree? What about the National Security Council? Is anybody in the U.S. government authorized to debunk Putin’s lies – if so, who? If not, why not?

The Obama administration had plenty of warning, and plenty of resources, to fight the Russian cyber offensive. Rather than doing so, however, they chose to stand down and leave it to a single finger-wag from Barack Obama to Vladimir Putin. With all of the dubious speculation over “collusion” between the Russians and the Trump campaign, we have heard very little about this suspicious sequence of events, in which the Obama administration seemed determined to leave the US defenseless in a cyberwar.

And in fact, the White House had an explicit entrée to fight one particular part of the cyber offensive. Former assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland not only corroborated Daniel’s testimony, she revealed that the Obama administration had good reason to intervene against Russian diplomatic personnel in the effort:

Nuland also revealed, in response to questions by Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, another previously unpublicized dimension to the Russian attack. That summer, Collins said, FBI officials advised the committee that Russian diplomats were traveling around the country in areas they were not — under diplomatic protocols — permitted to visit , apparently to collect intelligence. Asked by Collins if she believed this was part of the Russian so-called active measures attack on the election, Nuland responded, “I do.”

Only after Hillary Clinton lost the election did Obama retaliate by expelling the diplomatic personnel involved. By then it was far too late, an empty gesture after a series of purposeful surrenders. Perhaps at some point, we’ll get an investigation into these decisions, which would be much more useful than having a special counsel prosecute Paul Manafort for a case the Department of Justice had in 2014, and running a couple of questionable obstruction cases that have nothing to do with Russian collusion.

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/06/21/obama-cyber-chief-youd-better-believe-ordered-stand-russia/


lol

[Chris]

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lol

[pgardn]

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lol

Excellent.

The election was not rigged.
It was interfered with.
Do you know the difference?

[Pavlov]

Chris still *ding*ing nonstop trying to distract from the utter humiliation of Waffles Dennison.

[Chris]

Chris still *ding*ing nonstop trying to distract from the utter humiliation of Waffles Dennison.

Pavlov running away as fast as he can. Look at him go!

[Pavlov]

Pavlov running away as fast as he can. Look at him go!I'm right here.

[Chris]

I'm right here.

@POTUS on Russian hacking: "[@BarackObama] was president and they informed him of it, and he did nothing."

Thoughts?

[Pavlov]

@POTUS on Russian hacking: "[@BarackObama] was president and they informed him of it, and he did nothing."

Thoughts?He didn't do enough, for sure. The Republicans didn't want him to.

[Chris]

He didn't do enough, for sure. The Republicans didn't want him to.

Sounds like a conspiracy theory.

[Pavlov]

Sounds like a conspiracy theory.It is precisely what happened, Chris.

[Chris]

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hmm...

[Pavlov]

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hmm...lol Sean Davis *ding*ing too

[Pavlov]

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hmm...lol Sean Davis *ding*ing too

[Chris]

FBI: Lisa Page Dimes Out Top FBI Officials During Classified House Testimony; Bureau Bosses Covered Up Evidence China Hacked Hillary’s Top Secret Emails


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Former top FBI lawyer Lisa Page testified during two days of closed-door House hearings, revealing shocking new Intel against her old bosses at the Bureau, according the well-placed FBI sources.

Alarming new details on allegations of a bureau-wide cover up. Or should we say another bureau-wide cover up.

The embattled Page tossed James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok and Bill Priestap among others under the Congressional bus, alleging the upper echelon of the FBI concealed intelligence confirming Chinese state-backed ‘assets’ had illegally acquired former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s 30,000+ “missing” emails, federal sources said.

The Russians didn’t do it. The Chinese did, according to well-placed FBI sources.

And while Democratic lawmakers and the mainstream media prop up Russia as America’s boogeyman, it was the ironically Chinese who acquired Hillary’s treasure trove of classified and top secret intelligence from her home-brewed private server.

And a public revelation of that magnitude — publicizing that a communist world power intercepted Hillary’s sensitive and top secret emails — would have derailed Hillary Clinton’s presidential hopes. Overnight. But it didn’t simply because it was concealed.

FBI bosses knew of the breach yet did nothing to investigate, seemingly trying to run out the clock on the alarming revelations to protect Hillary during her heated presidential campaign with Trump. So instead of investigating the hacking of Clinton’s server, FBI bosses sat quietly.

And did nothing to confirm the Chinese assets were linked to their government. Or assess the damage such a tremendous breach posed to national security. Did the Chinese government access Hillary’s emails? The FBI didn’t care enough to investigate at the risk of besmirching Clinton and further soiling her during the election.

Hundreds of top secret documents and even the president’s daily travel and security itineraries were on that server — and intercepted by a communist country — yet the FBI sat on the evidence. Likewise, all of Clinton’s and her inner circle’s outgoing emails were compromised as well, sources confirmed.

Even the Inspector General had tipped off the FBI — specifically Strzok — about the foreign breach. Still, no timely case was pursued.

That same cover-up pattern fits FBI bosses who time after time stalled and concealed other criminal intelligence on Clinton in the weeks prior to the election.

We could write more detail here and ramble on and on but at this point, we simply ask.

Is anyone going to go to prison for politicizing the FBI and covering up countless crimes committed by FBI personnel in a variety of coordinated schemes to protect Hillary and the Democrats?

https://truepundit.com/fbi-lisa-page-dimes-out-top-fbi-officials-during-classified-house-testimony-bureau-bosses-covered-up-evidence-china-hacked-hillarys-top-secret-emails/

[Pavlov]

lol anonymous blog

[ducks]

Fbi tried to influence the election( officials Comey and Strok)As for the DNC, it actually rigged Hillary’s win over Bernie

[Chris]

lol anonymous blog

Sorry, I couldn't find anything from Russian state media on the subject.

[Pavlov]

Sorry, I couldn't find anything from Russian state media on the subject.All you could find was more fake news.

lol Chris

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hmm...

The "investigation" is all but a formality. He's not really being looked at seriously. He'll never be charged with anything. To your chagrin.

[ducks]

Hannity asked where that similar outrage was when President Obama was caught on a hot mic in Seoul in 2012 telling then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that he will have "more flexibility" on some unspecified matter or matters after his reelection.

"I will transmit this information to Vladimir," Medvedev is heard telling Obama in response.

During Medvedev's four-year term, Putin -- president prior to and after his tenure -- served as Russian prime minister.

"Sounds like collusion," Hannity said.

[Pavlov]

Hannity asked where that similar outrage was when President Obama was caught on a hot mic in Seoul in 2012 telling then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that he will have "more flexibility" on some unspecified matter or matters after his reelection.

"I will transmit this information to Vladimir," Medvedev is heard telling Obama in response.

During Medvedev's four-year term, Putin -- president prior to and after his tenure -- served as Russian prime minister.

"Sounds like collusion," Hannity said.ducks has to *ding* too

lol

[Chris]

The Mueller "investigation" is all but a formality. Trump is not really being looked at seriously. He'll never be charged with anything. To your chagrin.

fify

[ducks]

ducks has to *ding* too

lollol all you do is ding

[Pavlov]

lol all you do is dingNo, that's you.

[djohn2oo8]

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Steve knows

[boutons_deux]

I see Sessions' recusal from the Russia investigation as a defensive, preemptive move

( "see how honest and not collusive I am" ),

... as JeBo is also up to his eyeballs in Russian collusion, "forgetting" 100+ times :lol, outright lying :lol in his Congress hearing.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

I see Sessions' recusal from the Russia investigation as a defensive, preemptive move

( "see how honest and not collusive I am" ),

... as JeBo is also up to his eyeballs in Russian collusion, "forgetting" 100+ times :lol, outright lying :lol in his Congress hearing.

He is up to his eyeballs in it. However he stands in the way of Trump firing Rosenstein.

[djohn2oo8]

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GOP operative.

[boutons_deux]

Butina offered her pussy trying to get a job.

[Pavlov]

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/rapidcityjournal.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/c/46/c46572cc-113c-511c-988a-5046b8ded25d/5a7b3dbdb1726.image.jpg
No way, man. She loves me for me!

[boutons_deux]

He didn't do enough, for sure. The Republicans didn't want him to.

Obama wanted bipartisan agreement to go public with FBI's info on Trash + Russians, but Bitch McC said no.

It's ALL on McConnell, like so much other shit that covers McC

He has been and will be much more destructive of America than Trash could ever be.

[Reck]

fify

Must be why Trump has been freaking out for two straight years over it. :lol Bot Chris

[djohn2oo8]

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Will the Mercers get subpoena'd, jailed? CA is their baby.

[djohn2oo8]

Now Trump is considering turning American citizens over to Putin for questioning :lol

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whoops

[Pavlov]

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whoopsIT'S SUSAN RICE

[djohn2oo8]

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Hmmm wonder whose campaign

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[Chris]

Oh Butina, Butina! She reminds me of a west side story...

[Pavlov]

Oh Butina, Butina! She reminds me of a west side story...Yep, Chris can't spin this one either.

Hopefully anonymous twitter/blog will help you.

[djohn2oo8]

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[RandomGuy]

IT'S SUSAN RICE

Smells like... collusion.

Has TSA moved the goalpost yet? :rollin

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oh snap.

"distain for continuing to cohabitate with US Person 1"

Who the fuck was that?

Sounds like some serious colludin' going on. Chris gonna get jelly he wasn't getting any rooskie nookie.

[Chris]

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...and Bob Menendez knows :tu

[Chris]

oh snap.

"distain for continuing to cohabitate with US Person 1"

Who the fuck was that?

Sounds like some serious colludin' going on. Chris gonna get jelly he wasn't getting any rooskie nookie.

This is almost as pathetic as Manafort. No one on the right is jealous. We are laughing at you. :lol

[RandomGuy]

@POTUS on Russian hacking: "[@BarackObama] was president and they informed him of it, and he did nothing."

Thoughts?

POTUS is really desperate to shift blame and change the subject from his treason.

[RandomGuy]

This is almost as pathetic as Manafort. No one on the right is jealous. We are laughing at you. :lol

George Will isn't.

He is pretty incandescent at this point.

[Pavlov]

oh snap.

"distain for continuing to cohabitate with US Person 1"

Who the fuck was that?



https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/rapidcityjournal.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/c/46/c46572cc-113c-511c-988a-5046b8ded25d/5a7b3dbdb1726.image.jpg
No way, man. She loves me for me!

[djohn2oo8]

oh snap.

"distain for continuing to cohabitate with US Person 1"

Who the fuck was that?

Sounds like some serious colludin' going on. Chris gonna get jelly he wasn't getting any rooskie nookie.

Paul Erickson. GOP operative.

[djohn2oo8]

Chris has entered unchartered territory as he has run out if memes and tweets. Dark times are ahead for him.

[djohn2oo8]

This is almost as pathetic as Manafort. No one on the right is jealous. We are laughing at you. :lol

Who is we? CitizenX?

[Pavlov]

Paul Erickson. GOP operative.Kevin from The Office thought he found his soul mate.

[Chris]

Who is we? CitizenX?

Question pending.

[TSA]

POTUS is really desperate to shift blame and change the subject from his treason.

:lol treason

You’ve lost all credibility. Go sit in the corner with djohn.

[Pavlov]

Question pending.You didn't even ask a question.

[Chris]

You didn't even ask a question.

Question pending.

[Pavlov]

Question pending.lol Chrisbot is broken

[Chris]

lol Chrisbot is broken

Question pending.

[Pavlov]

Question pending.Could you let us know what your question actually is, Chris?

[Chris]

Could you let us know what your question actually is, Chris?

Question pending.