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Spurminator
05-17-2018, 03:49 PM
team Hillary (ding) paid Russians for dirt on Drumpf
How cute, Darrin doesn't care about this topic and still has somehow retained falsehoods by osmosis.
For whom Fusion GPS was working.
And?
Keep going.
This is your theory.
And what? The meeting was a set up to establish muh Russia contacts.
Pavlov
05-17-2018, 04:03 PM
And what? The meeting was a set up to establish muh Russia contacts.Yeah, but why was Fusion GPS even needed to set up a meeting? Goldstone was the go-between for contacting the Russians.
Explain.
Pavlov
05-17-2018, 04:19 PM
And, your claim is the Clinton campaign went through all this trouble to make this meeting happen in June 2016 and had the Republican candidates son, son-in-law and campaign manager attempting to collude with Russians to get dirt on Hillary.
They pulled it off.
They have multiple witnesses.
And they do nothing with all that after all that trouble.
Nothing in June.
Nothing in July.
Nothing in August.
Nothing in September.
Nothing in October.
Nothing in November when they apparently let Trump win as part of the conapiracy.
Nothing in December.
Nothing in January 2017.
Nothing in February.
Nothing in March.
Nothing in April.
Nothing in May.
Nothing in June.
In July 2017, they spring the trap!
By having someone describe a government document about the meeting to the New York Times.
You're right -- it's the perfect conspiracy.
Pavlov
05-17-2018, 04:27 PM
Back to reality: how many plea deals are we up to?
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Yep, Giuliani is wrapping this up as we speak.
Splits
05-17-2018, 04:28 PM
And, your claim is the Clinton campaign went through all this trouble to make this meeting happen in June 2016 and had the Republican candidates son, son-in-law and campaign manager attempting to collude with Russians to get dirt on Hillary.
They pulled it off.
They have multiple witnesses.
And they do nothing with all that after all that trouble.
Nothing in June.
Nothing in July.
Nothing in August.
Nothing in September.
Nothing in October.
Nothing in November when they apparently let Trump win as part of the conapiracy.
Nothing in December.
Nothing in January 2017.
Nothing in February.
Nothing in March.
Nothing in April.
Nothing in May.
Nothing in June.
In July 2017, they spring the trap!
By having someone describe a government document about the meeting to the New York Times.
You're right -- it's the perfect conspiracy.
lol
Is there a single charge, indictment, or arrest concerning Trump colluding with Russia during the election yes or no?
And Flynn still isn't in major trouble.
Perks of being a cooperating witness.
Should he stop, well then, I guess we shall pray for that day to see what happens to him.
DarrinS
05-17-2018, 04:58 PM
And, your claim is the Clinton campaign went through all this trouble to make this meeting happen in June 2016 and had the Republican candidates son, son-in-law and campaign manager attempting to collude with Russians to get dirt on Hillary.
They pulled it off.
They have multiple witnesses.
And they do nothing with all that after all that trouble.
Nothing in June.
Nothing in July.
Nothing in August.
Nothing in September.
Nothing in October.
Nothing in November when they apparently let Trump win as part of the conapiracy.
Nothing in December.
Nothing in January 2017.
Nothing in February.
Nothing in March.
Nothing in April.
Nothing in May.
Nothing in June.
In July 2017, they spring the trap!
By having someone describe a government document about the meeting to the New York Times.
You're right -- it's the perfect conspiracy.
Will Drumpf Jr be indicted for “attempted collusion”? :lmao
Pavlov
05-17-2018, 05:00 PM
Will Drumpf Jr be indicted for “attempted collusion”? :lmaoSorry, Darrin -- I missed where you actually stated your conspiracy theory.
Let's see it.
RandomGuy
05-17-2018, 05:07 PM
Will Drumpf Jr be indicted for “attempted collusion”? :lmao
Given the nature of the charges already leveled against Manafort et al, and the web of financial crimes, bank fraud or money laundering of some sort will be more likely, akin to what is being leveled at Manafort.
Given the mini-Trumps aren't the brightest bulbs in the pack, and the shadiness of Trumps real-estate dealings, financial crimes seems vastly more likely, with a good possibility that those crimes will involve Russian money.
RandomGuy
05-17-2018, 05:08 PM
Will Drumpf Jr be indicted for “attempted collusion”? :lmao
As a close business partner, Yohai was privy to many of Manafort’s financial dealings, according to the two people familiar with the matter and court filings in the bankruptcies of four Los Angeles properties in 2016. In addition to co-investing in California real estate, the two cooperated in getting loans for property deals in New York, Manafort’s indictments show.
Mueller sent a team of prosecutors to interview Yohai last June, asking him about Manafort’s relationship with Trump, his ties to Russian oligarchs, and his borrowing of tens of millions of dollars against properties in New York, Reuters reported in February, citing people with knowledge of the matter.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort-exclusive/exclusive-manaforts-former-son-in-law-cuts-plea-deal-to-cooperate-with-government-sources-idUSKCN1II2YM
RandomGuy
05-17-2018, 05:10 PM
Perks of being a cooperating witness.
Should he stop, well then, I guess we shall pray for that day to see what happens to him.
We will eventually find out what Flynn would have been charged with had he not plead out and started cooperating. My guess is that it would probably constitute "major trouble".
DarrinS
05-17-2018, 05:11 PM
Given the nature of the charges already leveled against Manafort et al, and the web of financial crimes, bank fraud or money laundering of some sort will be more likely, akin to what is being leveled at Manafort.
Given the mini-Trumps aren't the brightest bulbs in the pack, and the shadiness of Trumps real-estate dealings, financial crimes seems vastly more likely, with a good possibility that those crimes will involve Russian money.
Keep the faith
spurraider21
05-17-2018, 05:12 PM
Keep the faith
muh russia, amirite
RandomGuy
05-17-2018, 05:12 PM
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/atd-indictments-0514.png?w=575
Fantastic chart
Shows that these things typically last years. The shortest being two.
This will drip drip drip drip BOOM drip drip drip right on through 2020.
RandomGuy
05-17-2018, 05:15 PM
Keep the faith
Same to you. Keep up that faith-based delusion that Trump is not a criminal.
spurraider21
05-17-2018, 05:23 PM
Russia investigation reaches a year: shut it down! they haven't gotten anything! they're going beyond the scope!
meanwhile whitewater goes for 7 years and ends in questions about a blowjob
DarrinS
05-17-2018, 05:42 PM
Russia investigation reaches a year: shut it down! they haven't gotten anything! they're going beyond the scope!
meanwhile whitewater goes for 7 years and ends in questions about a blowjob
But that fruit of the poisonous tree thingy
Pavlov
05-17-2018, 05:51 PM
But that fruit of the poisonous tree thingyExplain your poisonous tree theory, Darrin.
FuzzyLumpkins
05-17-2018, 06:24 PM
Indicted for what?
Most likely would be money laundering, election fraud, espionage, campaign finance, obstruction of justice and/or conspiracy for one or more of the above.
You have to have been living under a rock to not see what Mueller has been investigating. It is interesting how you are both dumb and feign ignorance routinely.
Explain your poisonous tree theory, Darrin.
Welp, 1 hour elapses and Darrin is a no show. Waiting for his next batch of talking points from his favorite site national review maybe?
spurraider21
05-17-2018, 07:48 PM
Darrin's theory is "muh russia"
djohn2oo8
05-17-2018, 07:57 PM
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djohn2oo8
05-17-2018, 07:58 PM
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djohn2oo8
05-17-2018, 08:01 PM
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djohn2oo8
05-17-2018, 08:02 PM
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OP cmon now this is just getting embarrassing. Start a new thread.
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Prince
tick tock
djohn2oo8
05-17-2018, 08:39 PM
OP cmon now this is just getting embarrassing. Start a new thread.
Sorry TSA. That deal requires cooperation with other probes. Manafucked.
Sorry TSA. That deal requires cooperation with other probes. Manafucked.
If you just pay me the 2 grand now I promise I won’t keep bumping this thread after none of Trump, Jr, Ivanka, or Kushner are in prison.
djohn2oo8
05-17-2018, 09:02 PM
If you just pay me the 2 grand now I promise I won’t keep bumping this thread after none of Trump, Jr, Ivanka, or Kushner are in prison.
You seem nervous.
FuzzyLumpkins
05-17-2018, 09:05 PM
Manafort's son in law flipped. He is going down hard.
FuzzyLumpkins
05-17-2018, 09:06 PM
And I have no idea why you guys entertain TSA's infinite regressions. He started off saying no one but Susan Rice would get indicted. Multiple indictments and guilty pleas later and he has just moved to this current idiocy.
It's a waste of time.
You seem nervous.
:lol Nervous?
Do you want to double the bet money for each person you said will go to prison?
Show everyone how not nervous you are.
And I have no idea why you guys entertain TSA's infinite regressions. He started off saying no one but Susan Rice would get indicted. Multiple indictments and guilty pleas later and he has just moved to this current idiocy.
It's a waste of time.
Speaking of a waste of time how many Trump/Russia election collusion indictments has Mueller secured?
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 12:42 AM
:lol Nervous?
Do you want to double the bet money for each person you said will go to prison?
Show everyone how not nervous you are.
I would say you are nervous. Because no one has been cleared. :lol
I would say you are nervous. Because no one has been cleared. :lol
If I was nervous like you claim I wouldn’t offer to double our bet. Do you want to make our bet $1000 per person yes or no?
Don’t get shook and refuse to answer a simple yes or no.
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 12:51 AM
If I was nervous like you claim I wouldn’t offer to double our bet. Do you want to make our bet $1000 per person yes or no?
Don’t get shook and refuse to answer a simple yes or no.
Who has been cleared? TSA on his knees begging.
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 12:53 AM
What a pathetic sight.
boutons_deux
05-18-2018, 08:17 AM
Repugs LOVE to refer to THEIR Watergate scandal
‘Bigger than Watergate’ :lol : Trump joins push by allies to expose role of an FBI source
President Trump’s allies are waging an increasingly aggressive campaign to undercut the Russia investigation by exposing the role of a top-secret FBI source.
The effort reached new heights Thursday as Trump alleged that an informant had improperly spied on his 2016 campaign
The dispute pits Trump and the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee against the Justice Department and intelligence agencies,
The stakes are so high that the FBI has been working over the past two weeks to mitigate the potential damage if the source’s identity is revealed
The bureau is taking steps to protect other live investigations that the person has worked on and is trying to lessen any danger to associates if the informant’s identity becomes known
“The prior government did it, but the present government, for some reason I can’t figure out, is covering it up,” :lol
Giuliani said, adding that ( :lol there's a lot of shit Julie Annie can't figure out)
confirmation of an informant could render the Mueller investigation “completely illegitimate.” :lol wishful thinking :lol
A New York Times story (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/us/politics/crossfire-hurricane-trump-russia-fbi-mueller-investigation.html)published Wednesday about the beginnings of the Russia probe reported that
at least one government informant met several times with two former Trump campaign advisers, Carter Page and George Papadopoulos.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bigger-than-watergate-trump-joins-push-by-allies-to-expose-an-fbi-source/2018/05/17/db211542-59ea-11e8-8836-a4a123c359ab_story.html?ncid=newsltushpmgnews__The MorningEmail__051818&noredirect=on&utm_term=.0ba2aef8b274
So the Repug talking point is that the FBI, based on BFI's targets' contacts with Russians, etc, having an FBI mole to figure out what was going on is illegal? :lol
the reverse is ALWAYS true: FBI putting a mole into Dems / goring the Dem ox, would be vehemently defended by Repugs as patriotic, "rule of law", etc :lol
Repugs KNOW their boy Trash is going down, so
they are panicking, desperately shotgunning for anything that will shut down Mueller's "law and order" bulldozer,
esp before the risk of Repugs losing the whore House is realized.
boutons_deux
05-18-2018, 08:45 AM
Trump suggests in tweet Justice Dept is 'out to frame' him
President Donald Trump suggested on Friday that the Justice Department spied on his 2016 campaign, quoting a Fox News anchor who said law enforcement is "out to frame him."
Trump tweeted: "Really bad stuff!" :lol Trash always so eloquent!
The suggestion seems intended to undercut the work by special counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating Russian interference in the
2016 election.
Last week, the National Review raised the question of a possible FBI spy on Trump's campaign.
In his tweet, Trump quoted Fox Business anchor :lol
David Asman: "Apparently the DOJ put a Spy in the Trump Campaign.
This has never been done before and by any means necessary, they are out to frame Donald Trump for crimes he didn't commit."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-suggests-in-tweet-justice-dept-is-out-to-frame-him/ar-AAxsVlr
boutons_deux
05-18-2018, 08:49 AM
" Robert Costa, one of the reporters (https://twitter.com/costareports/status/997294175895871488) on the story, tweeted after its publication, noting:
A person "close to Trump tonight calls after reading Post story, worries that DOJ-POTUS-Congress situation is a "tinderbox."
Says Kelly and McGahn trying best to calm the tensions,
but outside allies are pushing for a showdown,
especially as blogs + cable speculate about source..."
https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/fbi-literally-working-protect-source-because-trumps-allies-are-so-dangerous-report
I wonder if Mueller is planning to gore Trash soon, to avoid doing it too close to mid-terms? Is that what the Repugs/Fox fear?
boutons_deux
05-18-2018, 09:14 AM
3 Notable Things Giuliani Said During His Freewheeling Interview On CNN
1.) On FBI Director Chris Wray’s assertion that the Mueller probe is not a witch hunt: “He’s wrong,” Giuliani said. “I know more about the case than he does.” :lol
2.) On the FBI informant who reportedly met with Trump campaign officials in the run-up to the 2016 election: “I don’t know for sure, nor does the President, that there really was [an informant],” Giuliani said. “We’re told that.” :lol
3.) On Trump’s old accusation that former President Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower: “At one point, the President thought there was a wiretap,” said Giuliani. “We were never notified that he was on a tap,” he added, admitting that there has never been any proof of that claim. :lol
This is the first time (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/mar/21/timeline-donald-trumps-false-wiretapping-charge/) that anyone on Trump’s team has admitted that Trump’s often-repeated smear of Obama was specious.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/three-notable-things-giuliani-said-during-his-freewheeling-interview-with-cnn?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29
RandomGuy
05-18-2018, 09:34 AM
The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Is Getting Weird, Y’all. A HOLY SHIT Investigation Into WHAT THE FUCK?
Did you read Wonkette’s HILARIOUS BLOGTIMES POST about Donald Trump’s crazy-ass lawyer Marc Kasowitz and his maybe-drunk mean girl emails to somebody who emailed asking him to resign after seeing him on “The Rachel Maddow Show”? Have you been reading this week’s CRAZY NEWS about Donald Trump Jr. and his sexcellent conspiracy meeting with Russian lawyers, spies and hackers? Well, we’ve got a treat for you, because it turns out those two stories are connected!
As we’ve noted before, when Trump hired Kasowitz, it was reported he had BRAGGED to all his pals that he had “played a central role” in getting Donald Trump to fire New York U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara. At the time, it was just kind of a “Meh, maybe he’s just talkin’ shit” sort of thing. But maybe it wasn’t! In his career, Kasowitz, on top of being Donald Trump’s thug lawyer, has represented big state-owned Russian banks. Bharara, meanwhile, was investigating this HUGE case of Russian money laundering when he was fired.
Indeed, in May, a couple months after Trump fired Bharara, the U.S. government settled the case he had been working on all of a sudden, in a move that stunned EVERYONE:
he case aimed to expose how Russian mobsters allegedly stole $230 million and hid some of the cash in New York City real estate. Also sure to come up was the suspicious death of the Russian lawyer who exposed the alleged fraud, though US prosecutors weren’t alleging that the defendants were behind it.
… [L]ate Friday night, federal prosecutors in New York announced they settled the case with Prevezon, the company accused of buying up “high-end commercial space and luxury apartments” with laundered money.[…]
“What most concerns me is: Has there been any political pressure applied in this?” asked Louise Shelley, an illicit finance expert who was set to testify in support of the US government on Tuesday.
The lawyer who died? Sergei Magnitsky, the guy after whom the Magnitsky Act was named. The law was entirely designed to punish the Russians who let Magnitsky die/murdered Magnitsky in prison. In response to the Magnitsky Act, Russia banned Americans from adopting bouncy Russian babies. Heard anything about bouncy Russian babies this week? Us neither.
A whistle-blower in the case, Alexander Peripilichny, collapsed and died while out for a jog in 2012. He was 44. Another lawyer, Nikolai Gorokhov, who was representing the family of Sergei Magnitsky, “fell out a fourth floor window” in March of this year, THE VERY DAY BEFORE he was supposed to go to a Russian court and “present new evidence that he claims support Magnitsky’s findings of a far-reaching conspiracy to defraud the Russian taxpayer.” Back in 2015, Preet Bharara wrote a letter saying he was worried Russia would try to hurt Gorokhov.
Guess which Russian lawyer was fighting on THE OTHER SIDE of that case, representing Prevezon, the Russian company accused of all the money laundering? YOU’LL NEVER GUESS, so we’ll just tell you it was Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer lady who brought her Russian spy hacker pal to meet with Donald Trump Jr. in Trump Tower in June of 2016, CAN YOU EVEN BELIEVE IT? When the Prevezon case was settled, Veselnitskaya said it was “almost an apology from the [U.S.] government” for even bringing the case in the first place. What’s weird, though, besides how ALL OF THIS IS WEIRD, is that, as Kevin Drum notes at Mother Jones, before the case was suddenly settled, it was “not going well for Prevezon.”
Veselnitskaya is a crusader against the Magnitsky Act, and if you’ll remember, Trump Junior’s first explanation for his Russian meeting was that they talked about BOUNCY RUSSIAN BABIES, which Drum explains is basically code for talking about the Magnitsky Act.
When Marc Kasowitz was bragging about how he got Trump to fire Preet Bharara, he reportedly told Trump, “This guy is going to get you.” Wonder what he meant by that! What did Marc Kasowitz know, and when did he know it? We know Trump’s legal team knew about Junior’s Russian meeting weeks ago, but has Kasowitz been in the know for even longer than that?
RandomGuy
05-18-2018, 09:45 AM
Lawyer Who Met Don Jr. Was Key Player In High-Profile Money Laundering Case
https://dawm7kda6y2v0.cloudfront.net/uploads/2017/07/natalia-veselnitskaya-2-654x362-1669204.jpg
In July of 2016, Donald Trump, Jr. met a 42-year-old Russian attorney named Natalia Veselnitskaya who had promised him damaging information about then-candidate Hillary Clinton.
One of his father’s contacts, a music publicist named Rob Goldstone, had arranged the meeting as a favor to a client of his, the Azeri real estate developer and pop singer Emin.
Goldstone had worked with the Trumps on the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow.
There were other reasons to take the meeting, too:
Emin’s father, Aras Agalarov, is the 51st-richest man in Russia (https://www.forbes.com/profile/aras-agalarov/) and an instrumental figure in the President’s aborted foray into Russian real estate: the Moscow tower he tried—and failed—to erect.
Trump Jr. has said he knew absolutely nothing about Veselnitskaya before their meeting, not even her name.
She turned out to use the promise of information that could help his father’s campaign as a pretext to discuss reinstating a popular Russian-American adoption program, according to his version of events. What could be more harmless?
In fact, Veselnitskaya was already a key figure for the defense in one of the most notorious money-laundering scandals in recent memory,
encompassing $230 million in public funds
allegedly stolen from the Russians by a network of corrupt bureaucrats and
routed through ironclad Swiss bank accounts into real estate sales, including some in Manhattan.
And she was accused of lobbying U.S. officials for a Russian NGO that sought to overturn the Russian ban on U.S. adoptions, according to a complaint filed with the U.S. Justice Department and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA).
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/who-is-natalia-veselnitskaya?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29
Trash and his entourage are paddling in the kiddie pool occupied with Russian sharks
Algarov was the same guy who gave the "very large gift". And with whom Michael Cohen was communicating with about a Trump development deal in Moscow as late at June of 2016, months after they originally said it fell apart.
boutons_deux
05-18-2018, 09:48 AM
Has Mueller interrogated Marc Kasowitz?
I remember DoJ settling the case for pennies, after Trash was elected.
U.S. For First Time Defends Prevezon Money-Laundering Settlementhttps://www.rferl.org/a/prevezon-settlement-money-laundering-u-s-defends/28915579.html
spurraider21
05-18-2018, 10:10 AM
:lmao UNMASKING
:lmao big boom
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 10:25 AM
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:lmao lordy!
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 10:26 AM
Innocent people need informants around them?
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:lmao lordy!
They denied for a year they were spying on the Trump campaign and now that they've been busted they are trying to justify spying on the Trump campaign :lol
Who has been cleared? TSA on his knees begging.
Smart move to cut your losses at $2000
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 10:58 AM
They denied for a year they were spying on the Trump campaign and now that they've been busted they are trying to justify spying on the Trump campaign :lol
Where did you get spying from? Read the tweet again. Trump's own people told on his ass :lol
boutons_deux
05-18-2018, 11:02 AM
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who's leaking? what individual?
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:lmao lordy!
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djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 11:05 AM
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when you lose Fox...
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 11:06 AM
Btw, does TSA think FBI informants are illegal? :lol
Spurminator
05-18-2018, 11:10 AM
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Should the FBI turn down information they are given from inside the campaign?
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 11:13 AM
Should the FBI turn down information they are given from inside the campaign?
Only when its not on Hillary
Winehole23
05-18-2018, 11:13 AM
any guesses who the rat is?
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 11:14 AM
any guesses who the rat is?
Kushner?
Winehole23
05-18-2018, 11:14 AM
if it was someone inside the campaign, in principle it should be guessable
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 11:16 AM
if it was someone inside the campaign, in principle it should be guessable
It would be a damn trip if it was Melania.
any guesses who the rat is?
Stefan Halper or Joseph Mifsud
Spurminator
05-18-2018, 11:26 AM
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Clapper admitted the FBI “may have had someone who was talking to them in the campaign,” referring to President Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign. He explained away the possibility of an FBI informant spying on the campaign as the bureau was trying to find out “what the Russians were doing to try to substantiate themselves in the campaign or influence or leverage it.”
Obama’s Director of National Intelligence then went on to say, “So, if there was someone that was observing that sort of thing, that’s a good thing.”
Should the FBI turn down information they are given from inside the campaign?
boutons_deux
05-18-2018, 11:31 AM
the bureau was trying to find out “what the Russians were doing to try to substantiate themselves in the campaign or influence or leverage it.”
... is not a LEGIT FBI activity? :lol
Russian mafiya had offices in Trash Tower, obviously a wire tapping target
Should the FBI turn down information they are given from inside the campaign?
Why do you think the information came "from inside the campaign"?
The F.B.I. obtained phone records and other documents using national security letters — a secret type of subpoena — officials said. And at least one government informant met several times with Mr. Page and Mr. Papadopoulos, current and former officials said. That has become a politically contentious point, with Mr. Trump’s allies questioning whether the F.B.I. was spying on the Trump campaign or trying to entrap campaign officials.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/us/politics/crossfire-hurricane-trump-russia-fbi-mueller-investigation.html
They denied for a year they were spying on the Trump campaign and now that they've been busted they are trying to justify spying on the Trump campaign :lol
Way to move the goalpost from "mah microwave wiretap" to there was an informant ratting Trump out. Neither of which was spying.
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 11:58 AM
Way to move the goalpost from "mah microwave wiretap" to there was an informant ratting Trump out. Neither of which was spying.
he is shook
RandomGuy
05-18-2018, 11:58 AM
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"Today's Republicans have made it clear that they won't hold Donald J. Trump accountable for anything, even if it borders on treason."
Pavlov
05-18-2018, 12:10 PM
Why do you think the information came "from inside the campaign"?
The F.B.I. obtained phone records and other documents using national security letters — a secret type of subpoena — officials said. And at least one government informant met several times with Mr. Page and Mr. Papadopoulos, current and former officials said. That has become a politically contentious point, with Mr. Trump’s allies questioning whether the F.B.I. was spying on the Trump campaign or trying to entrap campaign officials.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/us/politics/crossfire-hurricane-trump-russia-fbi-mueller-investigation.htmlAfter Papadopoulos bragged about Russia, everyone should've just left him alone according to TSA.
Pavlov
05-18-2018, 12:11 PM
997321625505759232What's this conspiracy, TSA?
boutons_deux
05-18-2018, 12:15 PM
" *why* bad actors in intel community were so desperate to not have Trump elected."
:lol
then it can also be asked
" *why* bad actors in intel community were so desperate to not have Hillary elected."
:lol
Comey trashed Hillary because he feared the NYC Hillary-hatring FBI was going to trash her first.
Pavlov
05-18-2018, 12:17 PM
In TSAworld, people investigating Russian interference are bad actors.
boutons_deux
05-18-2018, 12:20 PM
Giuliani Says Trump Can Obstruct Justice (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/18/1765247/-Guiliani-Says-Trump-Can-Obstruct-Justice)
GIULIANI: The president has complete discretion to fire anybody he wants.
CUOMO: What about corrupt intent?
GIULIANI: Doesn't apply.
CUOMO: Why not?
GIULIANI: There's no evidence of that.
CUOMO: You don't think a president can obstruct justice?
GIULIANI: He can. But I think in the case of firing a subordinate who's going to be replaced by somebody else on an acting basis immediately —
CUOMO: But it's why you fired them. Corrupt intent. It's part of the legal analysis.
GIULIANI: It doesn't matter if in fact it can't result in anything. The investigation continued. The investigation expanded.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/18/1765247/-Guiliani-Says-Trump-Can-Obstruct-Justice
Another one of Julie Annie's Greatest Hits :lol which hits just keep coming
Chris
05-18-2018, 03:04 PM
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Clapper with the indirect goods :lol
Chris
05-18-2018, 03:34 PM
Stefan Halper or Joseph Mifsud
Libtards think it's Jacob Wohl. :lol
Pavlov
05-18-2018, 03:34 PM
Libtards think it's Jacob Wohl. :lolNo one knows who that is.
Chris
05-18-2018, 03:37 PM
No one knows who that is.
I'm glad you speak for Libtards. :lol
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 03:38 PM
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Chris
05-18-2018, 03:39 PM
Roger Stone! I knew it.
Pavlov
05-18-2018, 03:39 PM
I'm glad you speak for Libtards. :lolI speak for people who have no idea who he is.
Which is pretty much everyone.
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 03:39 PM
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djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 04:28 PM
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lol adoptions
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 04:29 PM
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Pavlov
05-18-2018, 04:33 PM
Uday was calling Fusion GPS to confirm he had been successfully set up.
spurraider21
05-18-2018, 04:52 PM
Uday was calling Fusion GPS to confirm he had been successfully set up.
but kindly asked them to hold off on releasing this info until 8 months after the election.
as a professional courtesy
Spurminator
05-18-2018, 05:08 PM
Why do you think the information came "from inside the campaign"?
The F.B.I. obtained phone records and other documents using national security letters — a secret type of subpoena — officials said. And at least one government informant met several times with Mr. Page and Mr. Papadopoulos, current and former officials said. That has become a politically contentious point, with Mr. Trump’s allies questioning whether the F.B.I. was spying on the Trump campaign or trying to entrap campaign officials.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/us/politics/crossfire-hurricane-trump-russia-fbi-mueller-investigation.html
It's Clapper's quote from the article you posted.
DarrinS
05-18-2018, 05:29 PM
Uday was calling Fusion GPS to confirm he had been successfully set up.
He’s not very good at getting oppo dirt from Russians. Hillary (ding) is much better at it.
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 05:38 PM
He’s not very good at getting oppo dirt from Russians. Hillary (ding) is much better at it.
Uday solicited a foreign government official. That is a no no.
DarrinS
05-18-2018, 05:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7v22N2QrW8
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 05:45 PM
Another Darrinless take.
DarrinS
05-18-2018, 05:54 PM
Another Darrinless take.
Says Kyle Griffin’s #1 Twitter fanboi
:lol
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 06:05 PM
Says Kyle Griffin’s #1 Twitter fanboi
:lol
The mind of a simpleton. Kyle posts not opinions. But news. Catch up, Darrin.
Splits
05-18-2018, 06:11 PM
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Looks like it is Roger's Stones time in the barrel...
I'm glad you speak for Libtards. :lol
Who's Jacob? You mean the guy from Lost? :lol
Pavlov
05-18-2018, 06:38 PM
He’s not very good at getting oppo dirt from Russians. Hillary (ding) is much better at it.But if she got it, she didn't use it at all.
Why, Darrin?
Explain.
spurraider21
05-18-2018, 06:39 PM
But if she got it, she didn't use it at all.
Why, Darrin?
Explain.
her impeccable ethical code
Chris
05-18-2018, 06:54 PM
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spurraider21
05-18-2018, 06:58 PM
lol outlook-perspective section
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 07:19 PM
lol outlook-perspective section
:lmao
lol outlook-perspective section
Moving forward should we lol at all of Asha’s columns? Asking for a friend.
beat me by a second too :lol
spurraider21
05-18-2018, 07:26 PM
Moving forward should we lol at all of Asha’s columns? Asking for a friend.
opinion pieces should always be taken with a heaping bowl of salt. particularly from politically charged characters
opinion pieces should always be taken with a heaping bowl of salt. particularly from politically charged characters
Are you accusing Asha of being a politically charged character?
Are you accusing Asha of being a politically charged character?
Well given that she was actually FBI, I'd give her the benefit of the doubt on what she's talking about. (Without even reading the article)
spurraider21
05-18-2018, 07:40 PM
Are you accusing Asha of being a politically charged character?
i dont know much about asha tbh
Chris
05-18-2018, 07:42 PM
Well given that she was actually FBI, I'd give her the benefit of the doubt on what she's talking about. (Without even reading the article)
You know the FBI has like zero credibility right now right?
i dont know much about asha tbh
She’s former FBI bro, and a regular on CNN. Just take what she says as fact without reading it.
Chris
05-18-2018, 07:50 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdhPgJbVMAEkE8Y.jpg:large
spurraider21
05-18-2018, 07:50 PM
You know the FBI has like zero credibility right now right?
Trump
spurraider21
05-18-2018, 07:51 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdhPgJbVMAEkE8Y.jpg:large
:lol where are all these prosecution referrals?
Chris
05-18-2018, 07:54 PM
:lol where are all these prosecution referrals?
full link
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2017/12/a-timeline-of-treason-how-fbi.html
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 07:59 PM
She’s former FBI bro, and a regular on CNN. Just take what she says as fact without reading it.
Funny. I posted her tweets before and you laughed at her then
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 08:00 PM
You know the FBI has like zero credibility right now right?
Says who?
Funny. I posted her tweets before and you laughed at her then
Funny. You’re fucking stupider than I thought. I really could not have been more obvious with my comment. I’m sure even the forum dunce Reck got it.
997620674578575360
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:rollin
Buckle up and enjoy the ride Chris. The mental gymnastics we are about to witness will be off the charts.
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 08:14 PM
Funny. You’re fucking stupider than I thought. I really could not have been more obvious with my comment. I’m sure even the forum dunce Reck got it.
The correct phrase is "more stupid", not stupider. Dunce. :lol
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 08:17 PM
looks like Team Trump leaked the identity to the NYT
DarrinS
05-18-2018, 08:26 PM
But if she got it, she didn't use it at all.
Why, Darrin?
Explain.
Maybe opening up the third debate with goldenshowergate was a bad look, especially with ghbtp access Hollywood tape still looping in the msm.
997620674578575360
Pavlov you’ve been sent your marching orders get your shill on
997641945739644928
Pavlov you’ve been sent your marching orders get your shill on
997641945739644928
President Trump accused the F.B.I. on Friday, without evidence, of sending a spy to secretly infiltrate his 2016 campaign “for political purposes”
:lol the President of the United States of America does not have the same access to intel as the New York Times
You know the FBI has like zero credibility right now right?
No, I dont know that. And neither do you unless you work there, Citizen X.
Pavlov you’ve been sent your marching orders get your shill on
997641945739644928
NYT a few days ago: “Trump is waging war and going to risk the life of an FBI informant”
NYT today: “The informant is Stefan Halper”
The informant, an American academic who teaches in Britain, made contact late that summer with one campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, according to people familiar with the matter. He also met repeatedly in the ensuing months with the other aide, Carter Page, who was also under F.B.I. scrutiny for his ties to Russia.
:rollin
:rollin which one of you fucking losers that has been pushing the Trump/Russia election collusion conspiracy theory will be the first to have the balls to admit you were duped from the start?
The role of the informant is at the heart of the newest battle between top law enforcement officials and Mr. Trump’s congressional allies over the F.B.I.’s most politically charged investigations in decades. The lawmakers, who say they are concerned that federal investigators are abusing their authority, have demanded documents from the Justice Department about the informant.
Law enforcement officials have refused, saying that handing over the documents would imperil both the source’s anonymity and safety. The New York Times has learned the source’s identity but typically does not name informants to preserve their safety.
The informant, an American academic who teaches in Britain, made contact late that summer with one campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, according to people familiar with the matter. He also met repeatedly in the ensuing months with the other aide, Carter Page, who was also under F.B.I. scrutiny for his ties to Russia.
:rollin
:lmao
NYT a few days ago: “Trump is waging war and going to risk the life of an FBI informant”
NYT today: “The informant is Stefan Halper”
The informant, an American academic who teaches in Britain, made contact late that summer with one campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, according to people familiar with the matter. He also met repeatedly in the ensuing months with the other aide, Carter Page, who was also under F.B.I. scrutiny for his ties to Russia.
:rollin
Ummm so Trump and the Nunes of the world push to have his name leaked and somehow the name gets leaked? I wonder who's responsible for that one. :lol
I got to log off I just pee’d from laughter the NYT article is too much and I’m on paragraph 4 :lmao
spurraider21
05-18-2018, 08:43 PM
I don’t know why you’re suddenly claiming victory. Care to elaborate?
I don’t know why you’re suddenly claiming victory. Care to elaborate?
:lol suddenly
for a guy who just sits on the fence and chirps you aren’t very observant.
Chris
05-18-2018, 08:55 PM
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:rollin
Buckle up and enjoy the ride Chris. The mental gymnastics we are about to witness will be off the charts.
:lol
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 08:56 PM
President Trump accused the F.B.I. on Friday, without evidence, of sending a spy to secretly infiltrate his 2016 campaign “for political purposes”
:lol the President of the United States of America does not have the same access to intel as the New York Times
The President has access to literally everything you fucking idiot :lol
How did the NYT get that identity exactly?
Ummm so Trump and the Nunes of the world push to have his name leaked and somehow the name gets leaked? I wonder who's responsible for that one. :lol
Where did you see his name leaked in the NYT article or did you just “not even bother” to read it again?
The President has access to literally everything you fucking idiot :lol
How did the NYT get that identity exactly?
:rollin so shook your sarcasm detector malfunctioned
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 09:00 PM
Where did you see his name leaked in the NYT article or did you just “not even bother” to read it again?
They fucking put his location out there.
Chris
05-18-2018, 09:04 PM
angryjohn :lol
Chris
05-18-2018, 09:06 PM
997656447436689408
NYT a few days ago: “Trump is waging war and going to risk the life of an FBI informant”
NYT today: “The informant is Stefan Halper”
The informant, an American academic who teaches in Britain, made contact late that summer with one campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, according to people familiar with the matter. He also met repeatedly in the ensuing months with the other aide, Carter Page, who was also under F.B.I. scrutiny for his ties to Russia.
:rollin
NYT: “Informants take great risks when working for intelligence services, Christopher A. Wray, the F.B.I. director, testified before Congress on Wednesday. Their identities must not be exposed, he said, hinting at congressional efforts to obtain the name of the source. “The day that we can’t protect human sources is the day the American people start becoming less safe.”
NYT: “The informant offered a $3,000 honorarium for the paper and a paid trip to London, where the two could meet and discuss the research project.
“I understand that this is rather sudden but thought that given your expertise it might be of interest to you,” the informant wrote in a message to Mr. Papadopoulos, sent on Sept. 2, 2016.
Mr. Papadopoulos accepted the offer and arrived in London two weeks later, where he met for several days with the academic and one of his assistants, a young woman.”
:lmao
WTF they should have just titled the article
STEFAN HALPER FBI INFORMANT
angryjohn :lol
dshook2oo8
Where did you see his name leaked in the NYT article or did you just “not even bother” to read it again?
You got me there TSA.
I kind of took your post at face value. You posted exerpts from the NYT divulging the guy's name.
Chris
05-18-2018, 09:12 PM
dshook2oo8
:lol
upgraded now to THE UNRAVELING
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 09:14 PM
"US academic who teaches in Britian".
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 09:14 PM
upgraded now to THE UNRAVELING
What part of revealing sources is a good thing?
Chris
05-18-2018, 09:16 PM
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djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 09:17 PM
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TSA
TSA (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640)
TSA is so excited about the leak he forgot he posted a piece where the article clearly states the guy's name. :lol
TSA has become such a partisan hack. It's become about getting Ws now for him. Very patriotic.
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 09:23 PM
And now his name is all over twitter
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 09:40 PM
TSA is so excited about the leak he forgot he posted a piece where the article clearly states the guy's name. :lol
TSA has become such a partisan hack. It's become about getting Ws now for him. Very patriotic.
He also forgot he posted a tweet railing against the leak.
:lol tweedledee and tweedledum doing their thing
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 10:07 PM
:lol tweedledee and tweedledum doing their thing
Is exposing sources good or nah?
:lol tweedledee and tweedledum doing their thing
Dodge fail.
Is exposing sources good or nah?
Who exposed Stefan Halper? Be specific, and be correct. I’m getting tired of correcting you and Twiddledum.
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 10:36 PM
Who exposed Stefan Halper? Be specific, and be correct. I’m getting tired of correcting you and Twiddledum.
Ken Dipilan or however the fuck you spell it. NBC. He tweeted his name out. Now, who had the reason to give that name to the NYT?
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 10:38 PM
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Asha taking a wet shit on TSA
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 10:39 PM
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djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 10:40 PM
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Damn. Kick right to his baby nuts
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 10:41 PM
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Damn TSA.
djohn2oo8
05-18-2018, 10:51 PM
997679242853933056
dshook2oo8 with the self inflicted Friday night massacre
djohn2oo8
05-19-2018, 12:03 AM
dshook2oo8 with the self inflicted Friday night massacre
looks like Asha shit right on you guy.
Pavlov
05-19-2018, 12:06 AM
Pavlov you’ve been sent your marching orders get your shill on
997641945739644928:lol Dennison
Pavlov
05-19-2018, 12:08 AM
dshook2oo8 with the self inflicted Friday night massacre
Explain your conspiracy theory.
At least you’re going down with the ship, head held high. You’ll be down $2000 but I’ll respect you for sticking to your guns.
Explain your conspiracy theory.
You’ve been reduced to demanding conspiracy theories on a Friday night
You’ll do this next Friday I’m sure, and the following Friday, and the one after that, and the one after that.
:lol your life
Pavlov
05-19-2018, 12:13 AM
You’ve been reduced to demanding conspiracy theories on a Friday night
You’ll do this next Friday I’m sure, and the following Friday, and the one after that, and the one after that.
:lol your lifelol you've been here demanding shit on a Friday night.
djohn2oo8
05-19-2018, 12:33 AM
At least you’re going down with the ship, head held high. You’ll be down $2000 but I’ll respect you for sticking to your guns.
Asha shittin on ya
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:lol
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Thread
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Chuck Ross has been writing articles on Halper since March :bobo
Papadopoulos was reported to have been wearing a wire. Interesting.
DarrinS
05-19-2018, 11:16 AM
Whole thing stinks, tbh
boutons_deux
05-19-2018, 11:27 AM
cia/fbi knew Trash and his mafiya were in contact, even entangled, with Russians.
why would the NOT at least monitor them?
If cia/fbi were doing same to Hillary and Dems, you'd be cheering at top of your lungs
Winehole23
05-19-2018, 11:31 AM
four decades ago, Halper was responsible for a long-forgotten spying scandal involving the 1980 election (https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/07/us/reagan-aides-describe-operation-to-gather-inside-data-on-carter.html), in which the Reagan campaign – using CIA officials managed by Halper, reportedly under the direction of former CIA Director and then-Vice-Presidential candidate George H.W. Bush – got caught running a spying operation from inside the Carter administration. The plot involved CIA operatives passing classified information about Carter’s foreign policy to Reagan campaign officials in order to ensure the Reagan campaign knew of any foreign policy decisions that Carter was considering.
DarrinS
05-19-2018, 11:35 AM
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/clinton-email-trump-russia-probes-justice-department-double-standards/
Winehole23
05-19-2018, 11:36 AM
Halper, now 73, had also worked with Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, and Alexander Haig as part of the Nixon administration.
Winehole23
05-19-2018, 11:38 AM
what's so odd about the FBI using an informant to gather information?
boutons_deux
05-19-2018, 11:44 AM
Papadopoulos was reported to have been wearing a wire. Interesting.
yep, they must have flipped him earlier than his general exposure
boutons_deux
05-19-2018, 11:45 AM
what's so odd about the FBI using an informant to gather information?
for TSA and ilk, objectionable only because FBI/CIA/NSA was after his team
997827660708564997
997843183412371457
:lol
Didn't Comey, Clapper and Brennan and whoever else did just that?
Hell, Comey even told him he wasn't part of the investigation. :lol TSA
Pavlov
05-19-2018, 12:16 PM
Why wouldn't the FBI do this since we know there was a counterintelligence operation?
Five (5) officials from one (1) campaign had questionable contacts with Russians-- who were proved to interfere with the US election.
So the FBI should have just turned a blind eye?
What's the conpsiracy theory?
spurraider21
05-19-2018, 12:39 PM
:lol suddenly
for a guy who just sits on the fence and chirps you aren’t very observant.
No i mean why specifically is this NYT article your victory lap?
Pavlov
05-19-2018, 12:45 PM
No i mean why specifically is this NYT article your victory lap?BECAUSE 5 TRUMP OFFICIALS UP TO THEIR ASSES IN RUSSIA WERE ASKED ABOUT IT BY A LIFELONG REPUBLICAN
OR SOMETHING
boutons_deux
05-19-2018, 01:39 PM
NYT Reveals Another Don Jr. Trump Tower Meeting: Gulf Emissary Reportedly Offered Help to Win Election
The emissary, George Nader, told Donald Trump Jr. that the crown princes who led Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates were eager to help his father win election as president.
The social media specialist, Joel Zamel, extolled his company’s ability to give an edge to a political campaign;
by that time, the firm had already drawn up a multimillion-dollar proposal for a social media manipulation effort to help elect Mr. Trump.
The company, which employed several Israeli former intelligence officers, specialized in collecting information and shaping opinion through social media.
Trump Jr. reportedly “responded approvingly” and Nader had met with other Trump campaign officials like Jared Kushner,
though the Timesnotes “it is unclear whether such a proposal was executed, and the details of who commissioned it remain in dispute.”
https://www.mediaite.com/online/nyt-reveals-another-don-jr-trump-tower-meeting-gulf-emissary-reportedly-offered-help-to-win-election/ (https://www.mediaite.com/online/nyt-reveals-another-don-jr-trump-tower-meeting-gulf-emissary-reportedly-offered-help-to-win-election/)
boutons_deux
05-19-2018, 01:40 PM
Kushners Near Deal With Qatar-Linked Company for Troubled Tower
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/17/nyregion/kushner-deal-qatar-666-5th.html
djohn2oo8
05-19-2018, 02:03 PM
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djohn2oo8
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05-19-2018, 02:08 PM
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05-19-2018, 02:38 PM
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djohn2oo8
05-19-2018, 03:17 PM
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Pavlov
05-19-2018, 03:35 PM
997792108189814784Yeah, the FBI totes had it in for Trump -- so they didn't release any information before the election either.
lol
djohn2oo8
05-19-2018, 03:47 PM
Yeah, the FBI totes had it in for Trump -- so they didn't release any information before the election either.
lol
:lmao
Pavlov
05-19-2018, 03:50 PM
This is where all of the conspiracy non-theories fall apart.
TSA, Darrin, Chris, et.al., have nothing to counter it.
DarrinS
05-19-2018, 04:07 PM
Yeah, the FBI totes had it in for Trump -- so they didn't release any information before the election either.
lol
They don’t typically announce counterintelligence investigations, dummy.
Pavlov
05-19-2018, 04:16 PM
They don’t typically announce counterintelligence investigations, dummy.So you're now saying they didn't have it in for Trump?
Have a take for once in your life, Darrin. Step up.
Chris
05-19-2018, 05:02 PM
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Pavlov
05-19-2018, 05:04 PM
997877741268717568:lol anonymous twitter guy is the real victim here
Spurminator
05-19-2018, 05:11 PM
:lol Chris's imaginary friends
Spurminator
05-19-2018, 05:17 PM
When your life is kickass:
997637360060903425
:rollin
Buckle up and enjoy the ride Chris. The mental gymnastics we are about to witness will be off the charts.
Pavlov you’ve been sent your marching orders get your shill on
997641945739644928
President Trump accused the F.B.I. on Friday, without evidence, of sending a spy to secretly infiltrate his 2016 campaign “for political purposes”
:lol the President of the United States of America does not have the same access to intel as the New York Times
NYT a few days ago: “Trump is waging war and going to risk the life of an FBI informant”
NYT today: “The informant is Stefan Halper”
The informant, an American academic who teaches in Britain, made contact late that summer with one campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, according to people familiar with the matter. He also met repeatedly in the ensuing months with the other aide, Carter Page, who was also under F.B.I. scrutiny for his ties to Russia.
:rollin
:rollin which one of you fucking losers that has been pushing the Trump/Russia election collusion conspiracy theory will be the first to have the balls to admit you were duped from the start?
The role of the informant is at the heart of the newest battle between top law enforcement officials and Mr. Trump’s congressional allies over the F.B.I.’s most politically charged investigations in decades. The lawmakers, who say they are concerned that federal investigators are abusing their authority, have demanded documents from the Justice Department about the informant.
Law enforcement officials have refused, saying that handing over the documents would imperil both the source’s anonymity and safety. The New York Times has learned the source’s identity but typically does not name informants to preserve their safety.
:lmao
I got to log off I just pee’d from laughter the NYT article is too much and I’m on paragraph 4 :lmao
:lol suddenly
for a guy who just sits on the fence and chirps you aren’t very observant.
Where did you see his name leaked in the NYT article or did you just “not even bother” to read it again?
:rollin so shook your sarcasm detector malfunctioned
I fail to understand how even the biggest Trump sucker could orgasm so heavily over this news. TSA won't explain it though.
Pavlov
05-19-2018, 05:17 PM
:lol Chris's imaginary friendsHis imaginary friend just claimed there were over 150 people ratting out the Trump campaign.
Pavlov
05-19-2018, 05:32 PM
So the FBI has a lifelong Republican check out the following guy employed by the Trump campaign:
1) A guy who has been recruited by Russians before and is suspected of tipping the Russians off that the FBI was investigating that. He also has many Russian contacts and appears eager to do business in Russia.
2) Two guys that are leveraged out the ass to a Russian oligarch and worked as an agent for a pro-Russian government in the Ukraine. The two had been laundering money and defrauding banks for years.
3) A guy who someone else had put on their radar because he looked alarmingly cozy with a Russian woman at an ex-spy summit that was later embroiled in a Russian espionage scandal. This guy also worked as a foreign agent for Turkey, made a paid speech for RT and apparently was planning to kidnap a Trukish national in the United States to return him to Turkey.
And Dennisonistas just think they should have all been left alone.
lol
DarrinS
05-19-2018, 05:48 PM
This investigation sure was conducted “by the book”, just as Susan Rice described in a CYA email to herself 16 days after a meeting with Obama, Comey, and Sally Yates.
:lmao
Edit> and touchy-feely Biden
spurraider21
05-19-2018, 05:51 PM
This investigation sure was conducted “by the book”, just as Susan Rice described in a CYA email to herself 16 days after a meeting with Obama, Comey, and Sally Yates.
:lmao
Edit> and touchy-feely Biden
what does her email mean to you?
Pavlov
05-19-2018, 05:52 PM
This investigation sure was conducted “by the book”, just as Susan Rice described in a CYA email to herself 16 days after a meeting with Obama, Comey, and Sally Yates.
:lmao
Edit> and touchy-feely BidenYou're implying it wasn't.
What do you think really happened, Darrin?
DarrinS
05-19-2018, 05:54 PM
what does her email mean to you?
On inauguration day, she had a sudden urge to document a meeting that happened two weeks prior. Seems a bit sketchy.
DarrinS
05-19-2018, 05:56 PM
You're implying it wasn't.
What do you think really happened, Darrin?
Completely normal to use Hillary’s oppo research for FISA warrants on US citizens. Jeez
Pavlov
05-19-2018, 06:07 PM
Completely normal to use Hillary’s oppo research for FISA warrants on US citizens. Jeez"Normal" and "by-the-book" are two different things, Darrin.
What are you saying really happened, Darrin?
Spurminator
05-19-2018, 06:10 PM
Never seen people so suddenly interested in procedure.
djohn2oo8
05-19-2018, 07:13 PM
"Normal" and "by-the-book" are two different things, Darrin.
What are you saying really happened, Darrin?
Notice Darrin not talking about those caught in illegal activity.
Chris
05-19-2018, 07:23 PM
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djohn2oo8
05-19-2018, 08:49 PM
997967634984415232
For the dummy crew
Chris
05-19-2018, 08:53 PM
997967634984415232
For the dummy crew
No dubious connections for Trump therefore Obama admin was bending over backwards. Sound logic there djohn :tu
djohn2oo8
05-19-2018, 08:58 PM
No dubious connections for Trump therefore Obama admin was bending over backwards. Sound logic there djohn :tu
Yeah you really have bad reading comprehension skills. Read the tweet again before I have to explain it for you.
DarrinS
05-19-2018, 08:59 PM
997967634984415232
For the dummy crew
Perhaps there were no dubious connections.
Chris
05-19-2018, 09:00 PM
Yeah you really have bad reading comprehension skills. Read the tweet again before I have to explain it for you.
Explain your "bending over backwards" conspiracy theory please.
spurraider21
05-19-2018, 09:05 PM
On inauguration day, she had a sudden urge to document a meeting that happened two weeks prior. Seems a bit sketchy.
what does her email mean to you?
Chris
05-19-2018, 09:08 PM
The illicit acts implicated #Obama national security apparatus, including Brennan, Clapper, Rice, Powers, Yates, Comey, McCabe, Baker, Page & Strzok. This is why Rice is writing herself CYA emails on the day Trump takes the oath of office; Rice's CYA email points to #Obama.
-Barnes
djohn2oo8
05-19-2018, 09:09 PM
Explain your "bending over backwards" conspiracy theory please.
The tweet says, if the purpose of the FBI was to hurt Trump, those connections would have been leaked in October instead of after the election. They were not leaked until after the election. Lordy!
djohn2oo8
05-19-2018, 09:10 PM
Perhaps there were no dubious connections.
Or perhaps you are a partisan liar with no takes ever.
Chris
05-19-2018, 09:13 PM
TSA
997961877710954496
TSA (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640)
997961877710954496
997982402353000448
:lol Chris posting tweets without reading them or even having context.
:lol Jack Posebiec getting shit on on his own twitter timeline for the comment. :lol
djohn2oo8
05-19-2018, 09:35 PM
997982402353000448
:lol Chris posting tweets without reading them or even having context.
:lmao
Pavlov
05-19-2018, 11:10 PM
997982402353000448:lol
:lol Chris posting tweets without reading them or even having context.:lmao
djohn2oo8
05-19-2018, 11:23 PM
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dumbest fucking criminals
Spurminator
05-19-2018, 11:48 PM
Perhaps there were no dubious connections.
Except everything that's been revealed since then, that you guys have procedural complaints about.
Chris
05-20-2018, 12:03 AM
997982402353000448
:lol Chris posting tweets without reading them or even having context.
It wasn't a revelation that she was in the FBI, as I already mentioned that yesterday dummy :lol The revelation is her connection with Mueller. God you people are so dense and then jump to declare victory. :lmao
Pavlov
05-20-2018, 12:26 AM
It wasn't a revelation that she was in the FBI, as I already mentioned that yesterday dummy :lol The revelation is her connection with Mueller. God you people are so dense and then jump to declare victory. :lmaoDude was the Director of the FBI for 12 years, including Rangappa's entire time there. You didn't think there would be a connection there?
:lmao REVELATION HE SHOOK HER HAND WHEN SHE JOINED THE FBI CONNECTION CONNECTION THIS IS AWKWARD ALT-RIGHT TWITTER REVELATION
Chris
05-20-2018, 12:39 AM
Dude was the Director of the FBI for 12 years, including Rangappa's entire time there. You didn't think there would be a connection there?
:lmao REVELATION HE SHOOK HER HAND WHEN SHE JOINED THE FBI CONNECTION CONNECTION THIS IS AWKWARD ALT-RIGHT TWITTER REVELATION
White knighting for deep state propagandists because DRUMPF :lmao
Pavlov
05-20-2018, 12:43 AM
White knighting for deep state propagandists because DRUMPF :lmaoNo, I would shit on anyone who tried to pass of an induction photo as a connection revelation.
But since it's you and Posebiec, it's a damn riot. :rollin
djohn2oo8
05-20-2018, 12:45 AM
Dude was the Director of the FBI for 12 years, including Rangappa's entire time there. You didn't think there would be a connection there?
:lmao REVELATION HE SHOOK HER HAND WHEN SHE JOINED THE FBI CONNECTION CONNECTION THIS IS AWKWARD ALT-RIGHT TWITTER REVELATION
:lmao
djohn2oo8
05-20-2018, 12:46 AM
Chris hates FBI agents because they probably can do long division
Chris
05-20-2018, 12:58 AM
Declassified
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Pavlov
05-20-2018, 12:59 AM
Chris hates FBI agents because they probably can do long divisionIt doesn't take an FBI agent to figure out an induction photo isn't evidence of a conspiracy. :lol
boutons_deux
05-20-2018, 05:34 AM
Former federal prosecutor has advice for Roger Stone: ‘Start thinking about what’s going to happen when you get charged’
Two of Roger Stone’s close associates have now been subpoenaed (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-mueller-subpoena-exclusive/exclusive-special-counsel-subpoenas-another-stone-aide-in-russia-probe-sources-idUSKCN1IJ2MV) and asked to talk about the notorious operative’s work on the 2016 campaign.
Stone himself is still going on cable to deny everything —
he now says the DNC hack he’s accused of knowing about through Russian hackers never even happened (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/watch-roger-stone-pulls-tricks-fox-news-interview-denies-dnc-hack-even-happened/).
What does it mean that Stone himself has not yet been called to speak with special prosecutor Robert Mueller?
Nothing good, said two attorneys who went on MSNBC as legal analysts.
“It’s evidence of a methodical approach by Mueller and his prosecutors,” said attorney Lisa Green (https://twitter.com/lisagreen_law). “You want to gather a lot of evidence and work up the chain.”
The Stone matter is at the heart of the original intent, Hill said.
Former U.S. Associate Attorney Daniel Goldman (https://twitter.com/danielsgoldman) who worked in the Southern District of New York office, offered his advice to Stone.
“You need to start thinking about what’s going to happen when you get charged,” he said.
The fact that Stone has not been called while his associates have is an indicator that Stone may simply be indicted before he’s even interviewed
, Goldman said.
“You don’t want to be the last person they speak to,”
he said, telling Stone to go to Mueller and come clean lest they reach out to him right before indictment or,
“they don’t reach out to you, they just charge you.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/former-federal-prosecutor-advice-roger-stone-start-thinking-whats-going-happen-get-charged/
Stone has been a Repug nasty, dirty, shit-stain-on-America trickster for decades. It would hilarious to see him prison, finally.
boutons_deux
05-20-2018, 06:08 AM
Kushners Near Deal With Qatar-Linked Company for Troubled Tower
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/17/nyregion/kushner-deal-qatar-666-5th.html
Michael Cohen’s lawyer also works as a lobbyist for Qatar
The ties to Qatar keep multiplying.
https://thinkprogress.org/michael-cohen-lawyer-also-works-as-a-lobbyist-for-qatar-c62433bf6315/
djohn2oo8
05-20-2018, 09:36 AM
The smell of Trump's panic this morning is lovely
The smell of Trump's panic this morning is lovely
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boutons_deux
05-20-2018, 09:59 AM
The NRA is Holding the Smoking Gun that Connects Trump to Russia
the NRA was hosting an exhibit for a Russian arms manufacturing company. This revelation would raise the eyebrows of anyone concerned with the influence Russia is having on our electoral politics.
Russia wasn’t trying to establish an independent relationship with the Trump Administration. They already had a working relationship with the Trump family through business ties and corporate ventures.
When emails surfaced showing that Russian adversaries were attempting to set up a back channel with the Trump Administration through the NRA, the goal was to take a pre-exiting GOP-Russian political back-channel and connect it to the Trump Administration.
The NRA hosted TulAmmo because it was a way to connect the Trump Administration, the GOP, the NRA, and Russia under one roof. As under this roof, Trump, Pence, sanctioned Russian entities, members of the GOP, and members of the NRA could come together to exchange intelligence, negotiate agreements, and bypass sanctions. Under this roof, Russia and the GOP could connect with the Trump Administration to advance their federal agenda — despite the illegalities of doing so.
2015: The NRA & Russia Continue to Collaborate Post-Sanctions
In 2015, a year after Rostec and Rogozin were placed on sanctions, photos emerged showing prominent members of the NRA and the GOP meeting with the recently sanctioned Dmitri Rogozin and a number of other Russian adversaries in Moscow.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPBNOgVVoAARXKX.jpg
https://twitter.com/scottmstedman/status/932330052888379392/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedium.com%2Fmedia%2F6ba2202 0cc85a9418ce445510bf04893%3FpostId%3Dbdf6d2e04e2d (https://twitter.com/scottmstedman/status/932330052888379392/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedium.com%2Fmedia%2F6ba2202 0cc85a9418ce445510bf04893%3FpostId%3Dbdf6d2e04e2d)
The GOP and the NRA Send Go-Betweens to Moscow
The most prominent political figures that agreed to fly to Moscow to meet with Rogozin and members of his network were former NRA presidents Pete Brownell and David Keene, as well as NRA spokesperson and GOP operative Sheriff David A. Clarke.
But His Emails!: 2016 and Two Attempts to Establish a Trump-Russia Back-Channel
In 2017, two emails from 2016 surfaced that showed at least as many attempts were made to connect Russia to the Trump Administration through the NRA.
The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/03/us/politics/trump-putin-russia-nra-campaign.html) reported that “a deputy governor of the Russian central bank and key figure in Mr. Putin’s United Russia party, was instructed to make contact with the Trump campaign.”
This deputy governor was Alexander Torshin. A second email was sent directly from the NRA to the Trump campaign through Maria Butina’s business partner and former head of the NRA, Paul Erickson.
Email 1: Rick Clay’s “Backdoor Overture and Invite”
Email 2: Paul Erickson’s “Kremlin Connection”
Despite Mueller’s investigation into the ties between the Trump Campaign and the sanctions placed on Russia by the US Treasury Department, though, the NRA\GOP channel that connects Trump and Russia remains open.
Not only does it remain open, but it grows stronger. It also grows more careless.
The NRA’s Reckless Invitation Provides an Opportunity for Action
The inclusion of TulAmmo at the NRA’s 2018 Annual Convention, and the attendance of Russia state operative Alexey Solovov signals that the NRA, the GOP, and the Trump administration are still serving as a coordinated network working together to shift political behavior in the United States through Congress and the White House.
This relationship also signals that the attempts made by the GOP and the NRA to connect their pre-established political back channels to the Trump Administration were successful, and all targeted entities are complying with requests.
An investigation should also be launched into the financial relationship between the NRA’s Golden Ring of Freedom Club and the Trump Administration’s America First Action SuperPAC.
Special attention should be placed on the relationship between David A. Clarke, Joe Gregory, and Aleksander Torshin.
If money is flowing from sanctioned Russian entities, through the NRA’s Golden Ring of Freedom Club and into the pockets of the Trump Administration
Finally, there are many plays that the Russians may be paying into through the GOP and the NRA. There is evidence that
one of the most significant pay for play scandals involves the White House’s position on gun control policy via Donald Trump himself.
Prior to forming a relationship with the NRA, Donald Trump was known to be pro-gun control. His position changed during his bid for the Presidency.
https://medium.com/@SIIPCampaigns/the-nra-is-holding-the-smoking-gun-that-connects-trump-to-russia-bdf6d2e04e2d
I was wrong.
I thought Repugs, years ago, were enamored of, and praising autocrat, murderer, man-spreading WHITE Pootin to disrespect, insult Democrat leg-crossing BLACK Obama.
It seems like Pootin has been compromising into treason both the hyper-patriot NRA and Repugs for many years, totally independent of Obama.
djohn2oo8
05-20-2018, 10:01 AM
Now TSA says Clapper bad again
djohn2oo8
05-20-2018, 10:23 AM
Roger stone preparing to be indicted
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