Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Chucho]

To convince the public that Trump is a really bad man. It's called the Death by a Thousand Cuts strategy. It's not working. IG report and 2nd special counsel coming soon to a theater near you.

You and I know the IG report will be as ineffectual at stifling/revealing Democrat crime as the Mueller investigation has been/will be at proving real Russian collusion.

[Pavlov]

To convince the public that Trump is a really bad man. It's called the Death by a Thousand Cuts strategy. It's not working. IG report and 2nd special counsel coming soon to a theater near you.When did Nunberg come up with the Death by a Thousand Cuts strategy, Chris?

[Chris]

You and I know the IG report will be as ineffectual at stifling/revealing Democrat crime as the Mueller investigation has been/will be at proving real Russian collusion.

I'm going all-in with the IG report tbh. Also I believe Sessions has something coming, but he's not telling a soul.

[spurraider21]

I'm going all-in with the IG report tbh. Also I believe Sessions has something coming, but he's not telling a soul.
bullshit

when the IG report doesn't do all the things you hope it will, you'll just latch on to the next conspiracy theory. there's no "all in" if you're just going to keep coming back with the next excuse

[Chris]

bullshit

when the IG report doesn't do all the things you hope it will, you'll just latch on to the next conspiracy theory. there's no "all in" if you're just going to keep coming back with the next excuse

lol mad

[spurraider21]

lol mad
lol flat earth

[Chris]

lol flat earth

lol imputation

[Chris]

Putin cockblocking Mueller on any possible extraditions is funny af :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Bullshit. Your claim. Document it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39435786


The dossier claimed Page held secret meetings in Moscow with Igor Sechin, a Putin ally who is the head of Rosneft.

Page vehemently denied that he met with Sechin. But in November, the House Intelligence Committee released a transcript of Page’s congressional testimony revealing he had in fact met with other Rosneft officials, including Sechin's subordinate Andrey Baranov, during a trip to Moscow in 2016.


The dossier said educated youth and swing voters were a central target in the Kremlin's campaign of fake news and social media chaos, with the hope of cultivating their anti-establishment anger against Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. This has been proven by congressional investigations into Russia’s misinformation campaigns during the election, which also showed the cyber attacks were broadly aimed at a variety of voters, with the intent to sow divisions on heated political topics.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-dossier-one-year-later-what-we-know-777116

Frankly your assertion that it was impossible to corroborate any of it was pretty fucking stupid. Now go eat shit, old man.

[CosmicCowboy]

1) he said he didnt meet with Sechin and he didn't. Your "proof" even says so. Thats some sorry ass reading comprehension.

2) "misinformation broadly aimed at a variety of voters". LOL no shit sherlock.

Lmao, thats all you got? No golden showers on Obamas bed?

[boutons_deux]

How Pootin governs

Unidentified substance leaves ex-Russian double agent and daughter ill in Britain

British police raced on Tuesday to identify the substance suspected of striking down a former Russian double agent convicted of treason in Moscow for betraying dozens of spies to British intelligence.

investigators needed to be “alive to the fact of state threats” after Sergei Skripal, once a colonel in Russia’s GRU military intelligence service, was taken ill.

The 66-year-old former spy and his 33-year-old daughter, Yulia, were found on Sunday unconscious on a bench outside a shopping center in the English city of Salisbury after exposure to what police said was an unknown substance.

Skripal, who passed the identity of dozens of spies to the MI6 foreign intelligence agency, was given refuge in Britain after he was exchanged in 2010 for Russian spies caught in the West as part of a Cold War-style spy swap at Vienna airport.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-russia/unidentified-substance-leaves-ex-russian-double-agent-and-daughter-ill-in-britain-idUSKBN1GH2UX

[RandomGuy]

Actually the hooker in prison is trying to give Trump dirt about the Russians for asylum here.

But given that Trump loves himself some Putin, this whore is pretty much dead anyways.

If what she were saying was real, she would be dead. Putin has few qualms about such things.

[djohn2oo8]

971059407500038144
:lol that was quick

[RandomGuy]

1) he said he didnt meet with Sechin and he didn't. Your "proof" even says so. Thats some sorry ass reading comprehension.

2) "misinformation broadly aimed at a variety of voters". LOL no shit sherlock.

Lmao, thats all you got? No golden showers on Obamas bed?

I can't rule out the possibility. Russians have been known to fake sex tapes using body doubles for blackmail, mixed in with actual footage of someone staying in a Russian hotel. Good chance there may actually be a tape, albeit a faked one.

More likely though is that Russian intelligence has evidence of financial crimes. Trump's business model after he got out of casinos lends itself to money laundering, and the financial crisis was not kind to his cash flow. Russia mafia have always been flush with cash that needs cleaning.

Does Trump really strike you as the type who cares where the money comes from, and is principled to refuse dirty money?

[djohn2oo8]

971067845026177029
The best people

[djohn2oo8]

971068259322785793

[spurraider21]

971059407500038144
:lol that was quick
:lol if true

[djohn2oo8]

971080349131427840
lol Chris

[spurraider21]

so turns out this was an accurate depiction of nunberg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjNwtxeLoNI

[djohn2oo8]

971028430929227776

[djohn2oo8]

so turns out this was an accurate depiction of nunberg

:lol

[Pavlov]

971028430929227776Is the $15 million kidnapping caper totally off the table at this point?

Seriously tho, guy can't even get a GoFundMe from his buddies?

[TSA]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39435786





http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-dossier-one-year-later-what-we-know-777116

Frankly your assertion that it was impossible to corroborate any of it was pretty fucking stupid. Now go eat shit, old man.

So when you said the FBI has said they have independently verified much of what was in the dossier by much you really meant just one thing :lol

[Pavlov]

So when you said the FBI has said they have independently verified much of what was in the dossier by much you really meant just one thing :lolTotally nailed the terms of the Rosneft deal tbh.

[Brazil]

971028430929227776

it seems he is in major trouble after all :lol

lovin' dat nothingburger

[djohn2oo8]

971098056769798150
From the House intel probe. Lordy!

[djohn2oo8]

971098951440044032

[djohn2oo8]

971098056769798150
From the House intel probe. Lordy!

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/devin_nunes-800x430.png

[RandomGuy]

971098056769798150
From the House intel probe. Lordy!

Looks like we need an OIG investigation into this. Right TSA?

[Pavlov]

Looks like we need an OIG investigation into this. Right TSA?No. Leaks good now.

[djohn2oo8]

No. Leaks good now.

Christ!

[djohn2oo8]

TSA. leaks good now?

[TSA]

Emily Hytha, a spokesperson for Rep. Michael Conaway, who is supervising the probe, said witness testimony was not shared improperly. (The testimony was deemed committee-sensitive, according to a committee source, but not classified.)

“Any accusation that a witness's testimony was shared with another witness or their lawyer is unequivocally false,” she said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-received-inside-info-from-russia-probe?via=twitter_page&__twitter_impression=true

:lol bummer

[djohn2oo8]

You didn't answer the question TSA. leaks good now?

[djohn2oo8]

971109657459617793

:lmao

[TSA]

You didn't answer the question TSA. leaks good now?

No. And this "leak" is a non-story no matter how many tweets you post.

Speaking of unanswered questions...do you remember the terms of our $500 bet?

[djohn2oo8]

971110712641650689
:lmao lordy!

[djohn2oo8]

No. And this "leak" is a non-story no matter how many tweets you post.

Speaking of unanswered questions...do you remember the terms of our $500 bet?

So leaks good now. I see ya bwoah!!!

[TSA]

So leaks good now. I see ya bwoah!!!

You didn't answer the question djohn. Do you remember the terms of our $500 bet?

[Pavlov]

When TSA doesn't like the news, he talks about bets.

[boutons_deux]

Trump tweets again, and again puts McConnell squarely in the middle of Russia's election meddling (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/5/1746627/-Trump-tweets-again-and-again-puts-McConnell-squarely-in-the-middle-of-Russia-s-election-meddling)

Again he’s arguing both ways—

Obama and the Democrats were making up Russian interference to help Trump,

but

Russian interference was happening and Obama didn’t do anything about it,

which must make some kind of sense in his addled brain.

But here we’ve got another opportunity (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/4/1746479/-Obama-Chief-of-Staff-Sen-McConnell-demanded-Russia-warnings-be-watered-down-before-2016-election) to bring up Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s role in this whole thing.

That part where he was briefed by the intelligence community about Russia’s interference months before the election and,

in the words of former Obama White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, “dramatically watered down” the statement that he eventually agreed to release to states with the rest of the leadership.

Every time Trump tweets about do-nothing Obama and the Russians, he’s reminding us (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/21/1743391/-Trump-keeps-tweeting-keeps-reminding-us-how-deep-Mitch-McConnell-in-in-the-Russia-election-hacking) that McConnell was neck deep in that meddling.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/5/1746627/-Trump-tweets-again-and-again-puts-McConnell-squarely-in-the-middle-of-Russia-s-election-meddling?detail=emaildkre

[clambake]

i thought the bet was only susan rice gets indicted.

[TSA]

When TSA doesn't like the news, he talks about bets.

It’s not a story that warrants much discussion.

[Pavlov]

It’s not a story that warrants much discussion.And "muh bet" does?

lol

[TSA]

And "muh bet" does?

lol

It doesn’t warrant any discussion with you since you aren’t involved in it, but you can keep talking about if you want.

[djohn2oo8]

i thought the bet was only susan rice gets indicted.

Yeah I'm not sure what happened to that.

[djohn2oo8]

When TSA doesn't like the news, he talks about bets.

Leaks all good now.

[TSA]

Yeah I'm not sure what happened to that.

That’s not our bet djohn. Our bet had to do with Trump charged with obstructing Justice. Do you remember the terms of our $500 bet yes or no?

[clambake]

i'm pretty sure that djohn already won the bet.

[djohn2oo8]

That’s not our bet djohn. Our bet had to do with Trump charged with obstructing Justice. Do you remember the terms of our $500 bet yes or no?

Of course I remember. What does that have to do with Nunes leaking classified information and witness testimony?;

[TSA]

Of course I remember. What does that have to do with Nunes leaking classified information and witness testimony?;

Nothing was classified, had you read the article you posted you’d already know that. So what were the terms of our bet?

[RandomGuy]

No. And this "leak" is a non-story no matter how many tweets you post.

Speaking of unanswered questions...do you remember the terms of our $500 bet?

"I believe in the rule of law" :rollin

Bullshit you do.

[Pavlov]

It doesn’t warrant any discussion with you since you aren’t involved in it, but you can keep talking about if you want.:lol TSA is the sole arbiter of what is worthy of discussion and with whom.

[Chris]

971070472984121344


Australian Amb. Who Prompted Trump-Russia Probe Has Decade Long Relationship To Clintons – Jim Jordan Wants Answers (And A Second Special Counsel)


http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/06/australian-ambassador-clinton-foundation-fbi-trump-russia-probe/

[Pavlov]

971070472984121344


Australian Amb. Who Prompted Trump-Russia Probe Has Decade Long Relationship To Clintons – Jim Jordan Wants Answers (And A Second Special Counsel)


http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/06/australian-ambassador-clinton-foundation-fbi-trump-russia-probe/
It means absolutely nothing. Just more innuendo.

[Reck]

971028430929227776

All part of the plan. Plead guilty, spill your guts, sell your home to pay for legal fees.

Stingiest operation ever. Obama's fucked now.

[boutons_deux]

FBI gets tips, BUYS tips, from wherever.

[spurraider21]

thats a lot of attorney fees for a process crime

[Reck]

971070472984121344


Australian Amb. Who Prompted Trump-Russia Probe Has Decade Long Relationship To Clintons – Jim Jordan Wants Answers (And A Second Special Counsel)


http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/06/australian-ambassador-clinton-foundation-fbi-trump-russia-probe/

"Talks to Jim Jordan"

The end. :lol

[TSA]

"I believe in the rule of law" :rollin

Bullshit you do.What law was broken RG?



Emily Hytha, a spokesperson for Rep. Michael Conaway, who is supervising the probe, said witness testimony was not shared improperly. (The testimony was deemed committee-sensitive, according to a committee source, but not classified.)

“Any accusation that a witness's testimony was shared with another witness or their lawyer is unequivocally false,” she said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...mpression=true

[Chris]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/c5/c595586b491836bb2135fb603c2f4e5997ce0e2f8e41c30a81 af650f568eaff8.jpg

[Chris]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/IagvD28f6mcoM/giphy.gif

[TSA]

This is a great article.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier

"In the spring of 2016, Orbis Business Intelligence—a small investigative-research firm that Steele and a partner had founded, in 2009, after leaving M.I.6, Britain’s Secret Intelligence Service—had agreed to do opposition research on Trump’s murky relationship with Russia. Under the arrangement, Orbis was a subcontractor working for Fusion GPS, a private research firm in Washington. Fusion, in turn, had been contracted by a law firm, Perkins Coie, which represented both Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Several months after Steele signed the deal, he learned that, through this chain, his research was being jointly subsidized by the Clinton campaign and the D.N.C. In all, Steele was paid a hundred and sixty-eight thousand dollars for his work."

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier


The identified U.S. Person never advised Source #1 as to the motivation behind the research into Candidate #1’s ties to Russia

So who's lying the FBI, Christopher Steele, or Glenn Simpson?

[spurraider21]

"In the spring of 2016, Orbis Business Intelligence—a small investigative-research firm that Steele and a partner had founded, in 2009, after leaving M.I.6, Britain’s Secret Intelligence Service—had agreed to do opposition research on Trump’s murky relationship with Russia. Under the arrangement, Orbis was a subcontractor working for Fusion GPS, a private research firm in Washington. Fusion, in turn, had been contracted by a law firm, Perkins Coie, which represented both Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Several months after Steele signed the deal, he learned that, through this chain, his research was being jointly subsidized by the Clinton campaign and the D.N.C. In all, Steele was paid a hundred and sixty-eight thousand dollars for his work."

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier



So who's lying the FBI, Christopher Steele, or Glenn Simpson?
neither? Steele may have learned who was funding the research, but didn't specifically have to be Simpson (U.S. Person) that informed him

[Chris]

971135834207457282

cue but her emails.exe

[Blake]

971028430929227776

Aw Poor Flynn.

[spurraider21]

cue but her emails.exe
you're way ahead of us, given this *ding* in the russia thread

[Chris]

Seriously tho, guy can't even get a GoFundMe from his buddies?

You should read the articles Pavlov.


Joe Flynn and other family members set up a defense fund for Flynn to collect donations from supporters. He wouldn't disclose how much has been raised, but he said the family has been surprised and deeply moved by the thousands of individual donations they've received, none of which came from foreign nationals or from Flynn's former boss, Trump.

[Chris]

you're way ahead of us, given this *ding* in the russia thread

cue ding.exe /emoticon

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So when you said the FBI has said they have independently verified much of what was in the dossier by much you really meant just one thing :lol

The Newsweek article lists several things that were verified. The BBC link another. The standard set by ConservativeCowboy was that none of the dossier could be verified.

The FBI investigation has been tight lipped I never claimed that my post was exhaustive. Good to see you are still dumb as shit and struggle to follow a conversation or determine key points. You can eat shit too.

[Pavlov]

So who's lying the FBI, Christopher Steele, or Glenn Simpson?"The identified U.S. Person never advised Source #1 as to the motivation behind the research into Candidate #1’s ties to Russia"

Who are all the people in the quotes?

[Pavlov]

You should read the articles Pavlov.But he still have to sell det house?

:lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

1) he said he didnt meet with Sechin and he didn't. Your "proof" even says so. Thats some sorry ass reading comprehension.

2) "misinformation broadly aimed at a variety of voters". LOL no shit sherlock.

Lmao, thats all you got? No golden showers on Obamas bed?

Youre right that many of the things in the dossier are obvious nowadays. That is why your blanket dismissal of the whole thing was monumentally stupid. You are parroting Fox News talking point like a good minion though.

That was just the first two entries I found on a google search. You were not only wrong but obviously wrong because of your partisan nature. Shouldn't you be eating shit now, fattie?

[Pavlov]

neither? Steele may have learned who was funding the research, but didn't specifically have to be Simpson (U.S. Person) that informed himNO IT MUST BE A CONSPIRACY!

[TSA]

"To serve its clients, Orbis employs dozens of confidential “collectors” around the world, whom it pays as contract associates. Some of the collectors are private investigators at smaller firms; others are investigative reporters or highly placed experts in strategically useful jobs. Depending on the task and the length of engagement, the fee for collectors can be as much as two thousand dollars a day."

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier

"The ex-British intelligence agent who authored the opposition research dossier on President Donald Trump and Russia did not pay the sources he used to compile the document, Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson testified to congressional Russia investigators, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN."

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/politics/russia-investigation-fusion-gps-glenn-simpson-dossier/index.html

This New Yorker piece is exposing some interesting inconsistencies.

[Pavlov]

971135834207457282

cue but her emails.exeWhat are you saying they will find, Chris?

[Spurminator]

So who's lying the FBI, Christopher Steele, or Glenn Simpson?

... he asks in defense of Candidate #1, a known and repeated liar.

[Pavlov]

"To serve its clients, Orbis employs dozens of confidential “collectors” around the world, whom it pays as contract associates. Some of the collectors are private investigators at smaller firms; others are investigative reporters or highly placed experts in strategically useful jobs. Depending on the task and the length of engagement, the fee for collectors can be as much as two thousand dollars a day."

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier

"The ex-British intelligence agent who authored the opposition research dossier on President Donald Trump and Russia did not pay the sources he used to compile the document, Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson testified to congressional Russia investigators, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN."

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/politics/russia-investigation-fusion-gps-glenn-simpson-dossier/index.html

This New Yorker piece is exposing some interesting inconsistencies.Only if you're trying to make a conspiracy out of it.

[TSA]

The Newsweek article lists several things that were verified. The BBC link another. The standard set by ConservativeCowboy was that none of the dossier could be verified.

The FBI investigation has been tight lipped I never claimed that my post was exhaustive. Good to see you are still dumb as shit and struggle to follow a conversation or determine key points. You can eat shit too.

You said the FBI verified much of the dossier, they didn't, and none of your links showed they did.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You said the FBI verified much of the dossier, they didn't, and none of your links showed they did.

I'm not going to split hairs for the meaning of the word "much." Nonetheless, CC's standard of "none" was clearly not met.

[Spurminator]

"To serve its clients, Orbis employs dozens of confidential “collectors” around the world, whom it pays as contract associates. Some of the collectors are private investigators at smaller firms; others are investigative reporters or highly placed experts in strategically useful jobs. Depending on the task and the length of engagement, the fee for collectors can be as much as two thousand dollars a day."

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier

"The ex-British intelligence agent who authored the opposition research dossier on President Donald Trump and Russia did not pay the sources he used to compile the document, Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson testified to congressional Russia investigators, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN."

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/politics/russia-investigation-fusion-gps-glenn-simpson-dossier/index.html

This New Yorker piece is exposing some interesting inconsistencies.

Collectors and sources aren't the same people.

Next?

[TSA]

Only if you're trying to make a conspiracy out of it.

Were informants paid or not paid?

[Pavlov]

Were informants paid or not paid?Considering Steele's history with Russia and the nature of the work, I see no reason to doubt the statement. Feel free to provide something other than innuendo, though.

Why don't you just post the blog you lifted that from so we can see your next five arguments?

[Spurminator]

Were informants paid or not paid?

The informants were not paid. If you read a little further (to the VERY NEXT SENTENCE after the one you posted), it says this:


The collectors harvest intelligence from a much larger network of unpaid sources, some of whom don’t even realize they are being treated as informants. These sources occasionally receive favors—such as help in getting their children into Western schools—but money doesn’t change hands, because it could risk violating laws against, say, bribing government officials or insider trading. Paying sources might also encourage them to embellish.

[Pavlov]

The informants were not paid. If you read a little further (to the VERY NEXT SENTENCE after the one you posted), it says this:The blog he read left that out.

:lol TSA

[TSA]

I'm not going to split hairs for the meaning of the word "much." Nonetheless, CC's standard of "none" was clearly not met.

Neither was your standard of "much".

[clambake]

Why don't you just post the blog you lifted that from so we can see your next five arguments?
:lol

[Pavlov]

Neither was your standard of "much".Eh, whether the FBI verified it is a semantic argument at this point, but one you'll have to cling to.


It’s too early to make a final judgment about how much of Steele’s dossier will be proved wrong, but a number of Steele’s major claims have been backed up by subsequent disclosures. His allegation that the Kremlin favored Trump in 2016 and was offering his campaign dirt on Hillary has been borne out. So has his claim that the Kremlin and WikiLeaks were working together to release the D.N.C.’s e-mails. Key elements of Steele’s memos on Carter Page have held up, too, including the claim that Page had secret meetings in Moscow with Rosneft and Kremlin officials. Steele may have named the wrong oil-company official, but, according to recent congressional disclosures, he was correct that a top Rosneft executive talked to Page about a payoff. According to the Democrats’ report, when Page was asked if a Rosneft executive had offered him a “potential sale of a significant percentage of Rosneft,” Page said, “He may have briefly mentioned it.”

And, just as the Kremlin allegedly feared, damaging financial details have surfaced about Manafort’s dealings with Ukraine officials. Further, his suggestion that Trump had “agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue” seems to have been confirmed by the pro-Russia changes that Trump associates made to the Republican platform. Special Counsel Mueller’s various indictments of Manafort have also strengthened aspects of the dossier.

Indeed, it’s getting harder every day to claim that Steele was simply spreading lies, now that three former Trump campaign officials—Flynn, Papadopoulos, and Rick Gates, who served as deputy campaign chairman—have all pleaded guilty to criminal charges, and appear to be coöperating with the investigation. And, of course, Mueller has indicted thirteen Russian nationals for waging the kind of digital warfare that Steele had warned about.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier

[Splits]

Why don't you just post the blog you lifted that from so we can see your next five arguments?

lol

[TSA]

The informants were not paid. If you read a little further (to the VERY NEXT SENTENCE after the one you posted), it says this:

The collectors are sources themselves. Steele paid sources to get third hand information from other sources.

[spurraider21]

Collectors and sources aren't the same people.

Next?


The informants were not paid. If you read a little further (to the VERY NEXT SENTENCE after the one you posted), it says this:


Why don't you just post the blog you lifted that from so we can see your next five arguments?
Damn.

795 was a bad page for TSA

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The collectors are sources themselves. Steele paid sources to get third hand information from other sources.

Wow, you're stupid. If I collect something it does not mean that I created what I collected, dim.

[spurraider21]

The collectors are sources themselves. Steele paid sources to get third hand information from other sources.
No. Steele paid collectors to get FIRST hand information. That’s what makes them a source.

woj is a collector. Execs are his sources. Woj doesn’t have first hand knowledge, so you wouldn’t call him a source

[spurraider21]

Wow, you're stupid. If I collect something it does not mean that I created what I collected, dim.
:cry Stop arguing with him at face value :cry

[Spurminator]

The collectors are sources themselves. Steele paid sources to get third hand information from other sources.

So you're just going to ignore the part of the article I posted? :lol Let me try bolding it differently.


The collectors harvest intelligence from a much larger network of unpaid sources, some of whom don’t even realize they are being treated as informants. These sources occasionally receive favors—such as help in getting their children into Western schools—but money doesn’t change hands, because it could risk violating laws against, say, bribing government officials or insider trading. Paying sources might also encourage them to embellish.

[Pavlov]

:lol Now TSA is trying to argue that subcontractors are sources.

He chooses to die on the dumbest hills.

[spurraider21]

Damn. 796 off to a bad start for TSA

[Spurminator]

It's very simple.

orbis:collector:informant = newspaper:journalist:source

[TSA]

Eh, whether the FBI verified it is a semantic argument at this point, but one you'll have to cling to.



https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier

:rollin slurping up the puff piece by the woman Steele lied to the FBI about doing interviews with

[spurraider21]

It's very simple.

orbis:collector:informant = newspaper:journalist:source
Sorry, all he sees is Clinton:Podesta:Steele:Comey:Strzok

[Spurminator]

Defeated, he yells "Fake news! MAGA!" and runs back to the bunker.

[spurraider21]

:rollin slurping up the puff piece by the woman Steele lied to the FBI about doing interviews with
You slurp federal surveillance takes from a grocery store manager

[Pavlov]

:rollin slurping up the puff piece by the woman Steele lied to the FBI about doing interviews withYou just cited the same "puff piece" to try to "expose" Steele and Simpson.


"To serve its clients, Orbis employs dozens of confidential “collectors” around the world, whom it pays as contract associates. Some of the collectors are private investigators at smaller firms; others are investigative reporters or highly placed experts in strategically useful jobs. Depending on the task and the length of engagement, the fee for collectors can be as much as two thousand dollars a day."

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier

"The ex-British intelligence agent who authored the opposition research dossier on President Donald Trump and Russia did not pay the sources he used to compile the document, Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson testified to congressional Russia investigators, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN."

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/politics/russia-investigation-fusion-gps-glenn-simpson-dossier/index.html

This New Yorker piece is exposing some interesting inconsistencies.


Pick a lane, TSA.

[TSA]

No. Steele paid collectors to get FIRST hand information. That’s what makes them a source.

woj is a collector. Execs are his sources. Woj doesn’t have first hand knowledge, so you wouldn’t call him a source



“The allegation was attributed to four sources, but their reports were secondhand — nobody had witnessed the event or tracked down a prostitute, and one spoke generally about ’embarrassing material,'"

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier

[Spurminator]

All I know is if I spent weeks hyping emails stolen by Russia and disseminated through Wikileaks in order to destabilize my country's election, I'd feel pretty guilty about it. But I still have shame.


But one of the dossier’s other seemingly outlandish assertions—that the hack involved “state-sponsored cyber operatives working in Russia”—has been buttressed. According to Special Counsel Mueller’s recent indictment of thirteen Russian nationals, Kremlin-backed operatives, hiding behind fake and stolen identities, posed as Americans on Facebook and Twitter, spreading lies and fanning ethnic and religious hatred with the aim of damaging Clinton and helping Trump. The Kremlin apparently spent about a million dollars a month to fund Internet trolls working round-the-clock shifts in a run-down office building in St. Petersburg. Their tactics were similar to those outlined in Steele’s Charlemagne investigation, including spreading falsehoods designed to turn voters toward extremism. The Russian operation also involved political activism inside the U.S., including the organizing of bogus pro-Trump rallies.

In England, Steele kept cranking out memos, but he was growing anxious about the lack of response from the F.B.I. As the summer wore on, he confided in an American friend, Jonathan Winer, a Democratic lawyer and foreign-policy specialist who was working at the State Department. Steele told him that Orbis sources had come across unsettling information about Trump’s ties to Russia. Winer recalls Steele saying that he “was more certain of it than about any information he’d gotten before in his life.” Winer told me, “Chris was deeply disturbed that the Kremlin was infecting our country. By hacking our computers and using WikiLeaks to disseminate the information—it was an infection. He thought it would have really bad consequences for the U.S. and the U.K., for starters. He thought it would destabilize these countries. He wanted the U.S. government to know. He’s a very institution-oriented person.”

[spurraider21]

“The allegation was attributed to four sources, but their reports were secondhand — nobody had witnessed the event or tracked down a prostitute, and one spoke generally about ’embarrassing material,'"

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier
Ah, good find. Still, the sources are closer to the info than the collectors.

Alternatively,

:rollin slurping up the puff piece by the woman Steele lied to the FBI about doing interviews with

[Pavlov]

“The allegation was attributed to four sources, but their reports were secondhand — nobody had witnessed the event or tracked down a prostitute, and one spoke generally about ’embarrassing material,'"

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier

Before we get too far down this stupid rabbit hole.


John Sipher spent twenty-eight years as a clandestine officer in the C.I.A., and ran the agency’s Russia program before retiring, in 2014. He said of Steele’s memos, “This is source material, not expert opinion.” Sipher has described the dossier as “generally credible,” although not correct in every detail. He said, “People have misunderstood that it’s a collection of dots, not a connecting of the dots. But it provided the first narrative saying what Russia might be up to.” Alexander Vershbow, a U.S. Ambassador to Russia under George W. Bush, told me, “In intelligence, you evaluate your sources as best you can, but it’s not like journalism, where you try to get more than one source to confirm something. In the intelligence business, you don’t pretend you’re a hundred per cent accurate. If you’re seventy or eighty per cent accurate, that makes you one of the best.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:cry Stop arguing with him at face value :cry

It's more about the constant train of it going on for years making it the central discussion in most every thread, counselor.

Having said that you have a point.

[Reck]

I like how TSA doesn't admit he's wrong but double, triple and quadruples down on his shit and obviously wrong takes. :lol

[TSA]

All I know is if I spent weeks hyping emails stolen by Russia and disseminated through Wikileaks in order to destabilize my country's election, I'd feel pretty guilty about it. But I still have shame.

The indictment of the Russian troll farm does not buttress the DNC hack.

[Pavlov]

The indictment of the Russian troll farm does not buttress the DNC hack.What does?

Kim Dotcom?

:lol

[Chris]

The indictment of the Russian troll farm does not buttress the DNC hack.

Mueller knew it was impossible to extradite them anyways. This is all a big distraction.

[Pavlov]

Mueller knew it was impossible to extradite them anyways. This is all a big distraction.A distraction from what?

[Spurminator]

The indictment of the Russian troll farm does not buttress the DNC hack.

I like how you guys make sure to use the phrase "troll farm" to downplay it even though you were basically unpaid interns at the farm's US division for weeks.

Still are, tbh. How's that working out?

[TSA]

Ah, good find. Still, the sources are closer to the info than the collectors.

Alternatively,Steele's sources still good?

"On July 26, 2016, after WikiLeaks disseminated the D.N.C. e-mails, Steele filed yet another memo, this time claiming that the Kremlin was “behind” the hacking, which was part of a Russian cyber war against Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Many of the details seemed far-fetched: Steele’s sources claimed that the digital attack involved agents “within the Democratic Party structure itself,” as well as Russian émigrés in the U.S. and “associated offensive cyber operators.”

[Chris]

I like how you guys make sure to use the phrase "troll farm" to downplay it even though you were basically unpaid interns at the farm's US division for weeks.

Still are, tbh. How's that working out?

Pretty good. Trump mopped the floor with her ass. 2020? Looks good.

[Pavlov]

Steele's sources still good?

"On July 26, 2016, after WikiLeaks disseminated the D.N.C. e-mails, Steele filed yet another memo, this time claiming that the Kremlin was “behind” the hacking, which was part of a Russian cyber war against Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Many of the details seemed far-fetched: Steele’s sources claimed that the digital attack involved agents “within the Democratic Party structure itself,” as well as Russian émigrés in the U.S. and “associated offensive cyber operators.”Sure.

If you want to fold that into whatever Seth Rich conspiracy you're slurping up this week, you go right ahead, sweetie. Now's your time to shine!

[Spurminator]

John Sipher spent twenty-eight years as a clandestine officer in the C.I.A., and ran the agency’s Russia program before retiring, in 2014. He said of Steele’s memos, “This is source material, not expert opinion.” Sipher has described the dossier as “generally credible,” although not correct in every detail. He said, “People have misunderstood that it’s a collection of dots, not a connecting of the dots. But it provided the first narrative saying what Russia might be up to.” Alexander Vershbow, a U.S. Ambassador to Russia under George W. Bush, told me, “In intelligence, you evaluate your sources as best you can, but it’s not like journalism, where you try to get more than one source to confirm something. In the intelligence business, you don’t pretend you’re a hundred per cent accurate. If you’re seventy or eighty per cent accurate, that makes you one of the best.”

...

John Sipher, the former C.I.A. officer, predicts that Mueller’s probe will render the final verdict on Steele’s dossier. “People who say it’s all garbage, or all true, are being politically biased,” Sipher said. “There’s enough there to be worthy of further study. Professionals need to look at travel records, phone records, bank records, foreign police-service cameras, and check it all out. It will take professional investigators to run it to ground.” He believes that Mueller, whose F.B.I. he worked with, “is a hundred per cent doing that.”

Until then, Sipher said, Steele, as a former English spook, is the perfect political foil: “The Trump supporters can attack the messenger, because no one knows him or understands him, so you can paint him any way you want.” Strobe Talbott, a Russia expert who served as Deputy Secretary of State in the Clinton Administration, and who has known Steele professionally for ten years, has watched the spectacle in Washington with regret. Talbott regards Steele as a “smart, careful, professional, and congenial” colleague who “knows the post-Soviet space, and is exactly what he says he is.” Yet, Talbott said, “they’re trying to turn him into political polonium—touch him and you die.”

[Chris]

House Intelligence Committee Investigation turns to John Kerry, State Department

Kerry under scrutiny after Jonathan Winer's Op-Ed



The House Select Committee on Intelligence is now investigating former Secretary of State John F. Kerry’s possible role into the unverified dossier paid for by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton Campaign, this reporter has learned. The dossier, assembled by a former British spy, laid the foundation for the FBI’s investigation into alleged collusion between President Trump and Russia and was the essential piece of evidence used by the FBI to get a warrant to spy on a former volunteer for the Trump campaign.

For more than a month, the committee has been in its second phase of investigations focused on former Obama State Department officials and their role in either transmitting information or using information provided by former British spy and investigator Christopher Steele. Steele was hired by embattled research firm Fusion GPS, also under several congressional and Senate investigations.

But it was in February when questions surfaced regarding Kerry’s possible involvement or knowledge of the dossier.


Jonathan Winer, a long-time colleague of Kerry and who served as the former envoy for Libya during his tenure at the Department, wrote an opinion piece in the Washington Post on Feb. 8, defending his relationship with Steele and his role in the infamous dossier.

Winer attempted to pre-empt questions that the committee would ask regarding his role by admitting in his article that he was a long-time friend of Steele. He also established his close working relationship with Kerry saying, “in 2013, I returned to the State Department at the request of Secretary of State John F. Kerry, whom I had previously served as Senate counsel.”

But information uncovered by the Senate Judiciary Committee and revealed in its criminal referral of Steele to the Department of Justice that several Clinton allies were also connected to the State Department and the dossier. Sidney Blumenthal, a close confidant of Hillary Clinton, and Cody Shearer, a former journalist who went on to work for the Clintons, appeared to be feeding Steele information.

Winer said in his op-ed that “in late September, I spoke with an old friend, Sidney Blumenthal, whom I met 30 years ago when I was investigating the Iran-contra affair for then-Sen. Kerry and Blumenthal was a reporter at The Post. At the time, Russian hacking was at the front and center in the 2016 presidential campaign. The emails of Blumenthal, who had a long association with Bill and Hillary Clinton, had been hacked in 2013 through a Russian server.

While talking about that hacking, Blumenthal and I discussed Steele’s reports. He showed me notes gathered by a journalist I did not know, Cody Shearer, that alleged the Russians had compromising information on Trump of a sexual and financial nature.”

In February, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-CA, sent a dozen letters, containing ten questions, to former high-ranking Obama administration officials demanding full disclosure of their knowledge of the unverified dossier.

At the time, the committee did not disclose what officials received the letters, so it is not clear if Kerry was among them. Last week, however, reports surfaced that former CIA Director John Brennan, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and former FBI Director James Comey were among those Obama officials to receive questionnaire.

On Monday, Nunes told Fox News that some of the former administration officials responded, others asked for extensions, and several have failed to respond. He also noted that another dozen letters will be sent to more former Obama officials in the upcoming weeks as the investigation expands. The letter contained ten questions but one is of specific importance, say congressional investigators and that is if President Obama was aware of the contents of the dossier prior to Jan. 5, 2017. Also, the committee is investigating whether or not any senior officials leaked the contents of the dossier to reporters or media, as reported earlier.

Nunes said Clapper, Comey and Brennan did respond to the committee’s letter.

“There are a few people though that are not responding –they seem to have went dark,” Nunes told Martha McCallum. “However, if they don’t respond here shortly they will be getting subpoenaed to appear before congress to be treated with a deposition.”

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But Winer’s op-ed and statements made by former State Department official Victoria Nuland to the media regarding her role in the dossier have raised more questions than answers among congressional investigators. Winer, who also worked as the special envoy to Libya, noted in his op-ed that he contacted Nuland about Steele’s reports while he was at the State Department.

In one instance, Winer states that “over the years, Steele and I had discussed many matters relating to Russia. He asked me whether the State Department would like copies of new information as he developed it.”

Winer also said that he and Steele “met and became friends” in 2009 and both were interested in Russia and the collection of “business intelligence.” Winer also admitted sharing Steele’s work with the State Department’s Russia desk. “Over the next two years, I shared more than 100 of Steele’s reports with the Russia experts at the State Department, who continued to find them useful.”

Similar to Winer, Nuland has come forward to select media outlets regarding her relationship with Steele and the dossier. She told CBS’s Face the Nation, “[Steele] passed two to four pages of short points of what he was finding, and our immediate reaction to that was, ‘This is not in our purview. This needs to go to the FBI, if there is any concern here that one candidate or the election as a whole might be influenced by the Russian federation. That’s something for the FBI to investigate.”

https://saraacarter.com/house-intelligence-committee-investigation-turns-to-john-kerry-state-department/

[TSA]

All I know is if I spent weeks hyping emails stolen by Russia and disseminated through Wikileaks in order to destabilize my country's election, I'd feel pretty guilty about it. But I still have shame.

"In England, Steele kept cranking out memos, but he was growing anxious about the lack of response from the F.B.I. As the summer wore on, he confided in an American friend, Jonathan Winer, a Democratic lawyer and foreign-policy specialist who was working at the State Department. Steele told him that Orbis sources had come across unsettling information about Trump’s ties to Russia. Winer recalls Steele saying that he “was more certain of it than about any information he’d gotten before in his life.” Winer told me, “Chris was deeply disturbed that the Kremlin was infecting our country. By hacking our computers and using WikiLeaks to disseminate the information—it was an infection. He thought it would have really bad consequences for the U.S. and the U.K., for starters. He thought it would destabilize these countries. He wanted the U.S. government to know. He’s a very institution-oriented person.”

Why did Steele lie to the FBI?

[TSA]

House Intelligence Committee Investigation turns to John Kerry, State Department

Kerry under scrutiny after Jonathan Winer's Op-Ed

McCain is neck deep in shit as well.

[Pavlov]

"In England, Steele kept cranking out memos, but he was growing anxious about the lack of response from the F.B.I. As the summer wore on, he confided in an American friend, Jonathan Winer, a Democratic lawyer and foreign-policy specialist who was working at the State Department. Steele told him that Orbis sources had come across unsettling information about Trump’s ties to Russia. Winer recalls Steele saying that he “was more certain of it than about any information he’d gotten before in his life.” Winer told me, “Chris was deeply disturbed that the Kremlin was infecting our country. By hacking our computers and using WikiLeaks to disseminate the information—it was an infection. He thought it would have really bad consequences for the U.S. and the U.K., for starters. He thought it would destabilize these countries. He wanted the U.S. government to know. He’s a very institution-oriented person.”

Why did Steele lie to the FBI?Isn't your theory the FBI is in on the conspiracy?

[Pavlov]

McCain is neck deep in shit as well.What charges are you saying they will face?

[Chris]

McCain is neck deep in shit as well.

Latter part of the article has some interesting tidbits about Steele. My gut says Brennan (deep state) has been orchestrating a lot of this.

[Chris]

971160598728888326


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Gowdy bad now :lol

[Spurminator]

"In England, Steele kept cranking out memos, but he was growing anxious about the lack of response from the F.B.I. As the summer wore on, he confided in an American friend, Jonathan Winer, a Democratic lawyer and foreign-policy specialist who was working at the State Department. Steele told him that Orbis sources had come across unsettling information about Trump’s ties to Russia. Winer recalls Steele saying that he “was more certain of it than about any information he’d gotten before in his life.” Winer told me, “Chris was deeply disturbed that the Kremlin was infecting our country. By hacking our computers and using WikiLeaks to disseminate the information—it was an infection. He thought it would have really bad consequences for the U.S. and the U.K., for starters. He thought it would destabilize these countries. He wanted the U.S. government to know. He’s a very institution-oriented person.”

Why did Steele lie to the FBI?

What part of that paragraph contains a lie to the FBI?

[TSA]

What part of that paragraph contains a lie to the FBI?

Nothing in there contains his lie but the article paints him as being so concerned for the US government. So why did Steele lie to the FBI?

[TSA]

What charges are you saying they will face?

Never said anything about charges. I said McCain is neck deep in shit.

[Pavlov]

Never said anything about charges. I said McCain is neck deep in shit.So clarify your innuendo here.

What do you mean by deep shit?

My prediction will be moar blog posts and Hannity snark.

[TSA]

971160598728888326


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Gowdy bad now :lol

There’s really no need for a second special counsel. Horowitz has been investigating for over a year and has had access to EVERYTHING.

[Pavlov]

There’s really no need for a second special counsel. Horowitz has been investigating for over a year and has had access to EVERYTHING.According to you, this letter is political theater.

[Spurminator]

Nothing in there contains his lie but the article paints him as being so concerned for the US government. So why did Steele lie to the FBI?

What was the lie?

[TSA]

So clarify your innuendo here.

What do you mean by deep shit?

My prediction will be moar blog posts and Hannity snark.
Deep shit as in trying to use the dossier as a threat to get Trump to resign.

[Pavlov]

Deep shit as in trying to use the dossier as a threat to get Trump to resign.Did he use the dossier as a threat to get Trump to resign?

Yes or no.

[TSA]

What was the lie?

Do you really not know?

[TSA]

Did he use the dossier as a threat to get Trump to resign?

Yes or no.

No he pussed out.

[Pavlov]

NoSo he's not in anything resembling deep shit.

Thanks for clearing that up, TSA :tu

[spurraider21]

971160598728888326


https://media2.giphy.com/media/5mBE2MiMVFITS/giphy.gif

Gowdy bad now :lol
lol yesterday you were "all in on horowitz" and today you celebrate a request suggests the horowitz investigation isn't sufficient. this is why i called bullshit. i was right.

[TSA]

So he's not in anything resembling deep shit.

Thanks for clearing that up, TSA :tu

Why would Kramer plead the fifth?

[TSA]

Isn't your theory the FBI is in on the conspiracy?

I never said the entire FBI was corrupt.

Why did Steele lie to the FBI?

[RandomGuy]

So he's not in anything resembling deep shit.

Thanks for clearing that up, TSA :tu

:rollin

[Pavlov]

Why would Kramer plead the fifth?To whom? I'm sure he'd speak to Mueller and would have to speak to a grand jury if that's your big concern


What's your conspiracy this time, TSA?

Be specific.

[djohn2oo8]

971173641449758720
Crofl

[Pavlov]

I never said the entire FBI was corrupt. OK, who is and what did they do?


Why did Steele lie to the FBI?I don't know.

What's your conspiracy this time, TSA?

Be specific.

[TSA]

971173641449758720
Crofl

Crofl

George Nader is a close associate of Bill Clinton. George Nader is also a listed Clinton Foundation donor. The Clinton Foundation took in over 10 million from the UAE while she was Secretary if State.

[Spurminator]

Do you really not know?

I'm pretty sure you're talking about the lie alleged in the Grassley-Graham memo but I'm not sure how that contradicts a concern for the US government.

[Reck]

There’s really no need for a second special counsel. Horowitz has been investigating for over a year and has had access to EVERYTHING.

I agree with you here.

[djohn2oo8]

971173641449758720
Crofl

971176305516523520

[RandomGuy]

House Intelligence Committee Investigation

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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[Chris]

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.boingboing.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F09%2F93833-burn-the-witch-gif-monty-pytho-gqrc.gif&f=1

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I always thought that whole Qatar thing was weird and out of nowhere.

[Chris]

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TSA and I called it from the start. Conflicts of interest.

[Chris]

lol yesterday you were "all in on horowitz" and today you celebrate a request suggests the horowitz investigation isn't sufficient. this is why i called bullshit. i was right.

Unless you've been living under a rock, I have been advocating for quite some time ITT for a 2nd special counsel.

[Chris]

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[Chris]

Lots of people donating. #IStandWithGenFlynn

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[TSA]

I agree with you here.

After reading the request for a 2nd special counsel I’m actually on board. Horowitz doesn’t have the authority to investigate former employees of the DOJ/FBI. Too many involved have already been forced out or resigned. Every single one of them needs to be investigated and held accountable.

[Chris]

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[Chris]

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[clambake]

tick tock

shoulder to shoulder

[TSA]

971184480437325825

TSA and I called it from the start. Conflicts of interest.

wxskAakweDY

[spurraider21]

971200613999669248
he didn't call the russia collusion theory a running joke. the running joke is that "running on russia" is not helping them win elections.

dishonest tweet is dishonest.

[spurraider21]

Unless you've been living under a rock, I have been advocating for quite some time ITT for a 2nd special counsel.
so then what the hell are you "all in" on regarding horowitz?

what do you anticipate being the results and effects of his findings?

[Reck]

After reading the request for a 2nd special counsel I’m actually on board. Horowitz doesn’t have the authority to investigate former employees of the DOJ/FBI. Too many involved have already been forced out or resigned. Every single one of them needs to be investigated and held accountable.

Then seat at the kid's table along with Chris because that's not going to happen per Session's own testimony where he shot Jim Jordan down.

[Chris]

so then what the hell are you "all in" on regarding horowitz?

what do you anticipate being the results and effects of his findings?

I anticipate the IG report shedding a lot of light on the FBI's activities, specifically concerning McCabe and additionally HRC's emails. The FBI is in defense mode stonewalling everything. Horowitz has already been buttered up as an Obama guy, so I'm looking forward to the Left finally taking an interest in their own corruption instead of arguing the source.

[spurraider21]

Then seat at the kid's table along with Chris because that's not going to happen per Session's own testimony where he shot Jim Jordan down.
for reference. he gets into the FISA stuff at the end


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7uhe91wGUE

[Chris]

Then seat at the kid's table along with Chris because that's not going to happen per Session's own testimony where he shot Jim Jordan down.

If anyone is sitting at the kid's table, it's you and dodgerjohn. :lol Blake is pouting in the car :lol

[spurraider21]

I anticipate the IG report shedding a lot of light on the FBI's activities, specifically concerning McCabe and additionally HRC's emails. The FBI is in defense mode stonewalling everything. Horowitz has already been buttered up as an Obama guy, so I'm looking forward to the Left finally taking an interest in their own corruption instead of arguing the source.
arite, so lets say the IG report, as expected, paints McCabe as the leaker in that wall street journal article. that article wasn't a pro-clinton piece by any stretch. either way, mccabe thrown under the bus. arite. swamp drained.

what exactly is he gonna say about HRC emails, in your opinion? what results will his findings have?

is mccabe getting thrown under the bus the big boom?

[Chris]

arite, so lets say the IG report, as expected, paints McCabe as the leaker in that wall street journal article. that article wasn't a pro-clinton piece by any stretch. either way, mccabe thrown under the bus. arite. swamp drained.

what exactly is he gonna say about HRC emails, in your opinion? what results will his findings have?

is mccabe getting thrown under the bus the big boom?

That's a lot of hypotheticals and speculation without any data to work with (IG report). Are you doing the Pavlov thing on purpose, or were you being serious?

[TSA]

Then seat at the kid's table along with Chris because that's not going to happen per Session's own testimony where he shot Jim Jordan down.

That was 4 months ago quite a few things have transpired since then. And Jim Jordan isn’t the house judiciary chairman who has direct oversight authority over the DOJ, federal courts, and FISA court. Goodlatte requesting a special counsel carries weight and his request meets the requirements of a special counsel.

[Reck]

That was 4 months ago quite a few things have transpired since then. And Jim Jordan isn’t the house judiciary chairman who has direct oversight authority over the DOJ, federal courts, and FISA court. Goodlatte requesting a special counsel carries weight and his request meets the requirements of a special counsel.

What has changed from then and now? Other than a bunch of raving republicans asking for a second special counsel?

[spurraider21]

That's a lot of hypotheticals and speculation without any data to work with (IG report). Are you doing the Pavlov thing on purpose, or were you being serious?
being serious. this IG report has been hyped quite a bit on this board, i'm struggling to see where the bombshells would be

[spurraider21]

That was 4 months ago quite a few things have transpired since then. And Jim Jordan isn’t the house judiciary chairman who has direct oversight authority over the DOJ, federal courts, and FISA court. Goodlatte requesting a special counsel carries weight and his request meets the requirements of a special counsel.
what facts have changed since then?

[Chris]

wxskAakweDY


"When I counted up 24 witnesses that [IG Horowitz] would not be able to access were he to investigate it, yeah only one conclusion, that’s special counsel.”

[Chris]

Very interesting


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[baseline bum]

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[AaronY]

:sleep

[TSA]

What has changed from then and now? Other than a bunch of raving republicans asking for a second special counsel?

Dec. 1, 2017: Former national security adviser Gen. Flynn pleads guilty of lying to the FBI.

James Rybicki steps down as chief of staff to FBI Director.

Dec. 6, 2017: Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr is reportedly stripped of one of his positions at Justice Dept. amid controversy over his and his wife’s role in anti-Trump political opposition research.

Dec. 7, 2017: FBI Director Wray incorrectly testifies that there have been no “702” surveillance abuses by the government.

Dec. 19, 2017: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe repeatedly testifies that the wiretap against Trump campaign official Carter Page would not have been approved without the Fusion GPS info. FBI general counsel James Baker, who is himself subject of an Inspector General probe over his alleged leaks to the press, attends as McCabe’s attorney. McCabe acknowledges that if Baker had met with Mother Jones reporter David Corn, it would have been inappropriate.

FBI general counsel James Baker is reassigned amid investigation into his alleged anti-Trump related contacts with media.

2018
Jan. 4, 2018: Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) refer criminal charges against Christopher Steele to the FBI for investigation. There’s an apparent conflict of interest with the FBI being asked to investigate Steele since the FBI has used Steele’s controversial political opposition research to obtain wiretaps.

Jan. 8, 2018: Justice Dept. official Bruce Ohr loses his second title at the agency.

Jan. 10, 2018: Donald Trump lawyer Michael Cohen files defamation suits against Fusion GPS and BuzzFeed News for publishing the “Steele dossier” which he says falsely claimed he met Russian government officials in Prague, Czech Republic, in August of 2016.

Jan. 11, 2018: House of Representatives approves government’s controversial “702” wireless surveillance authority. The Senate follows suit.

Jan. 19, 2018: Justice Dept. produces to Congress some text messages between FBI officials Lisa Page and Peter Strzok but states that FBI lost texts between December 14, 2016 and May 17, 2017 due to a technical glitch.

President Trump signs six-year extension of “702” wireless surveillance authority.

Jan. 23, 2018: Former FBI Director Comey friend who leaked on behalf of Comey to New York Times to spur appointment of special counsel is now Comey’s attorney.

Jan. 25, 2018: Justice Dept. Inspector General notifies Congress it has recovered missing text messages between FBI officials Lisa Page and Peter Strzok.

Jan. 27, 2018: Edward O’Callaghan is named Acting Assistant Attorney General, National Security Division.

Jan. 29, 2018: Andrew McCabe steps down as Deputy FBI Director ahead of his March retirement.

Jan. 30, 2018: News reports allege that Justice Department Inspector General is looking into why FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe appeared to wait three weeks before acting on new Clinton emails found right before the election.

Feb. 2, 2018: House Intelligence Committee (Nunes) Republican memo is released. It summarizes classified documents revealing for the first time that Fusion GPS political opposition research was used, in part, to justify Carter Page wiretap; along with Michael Isikoff Yahoo News article based on the same opposition research.

Memo also states that Fusion GPS set up back channel to FBI through Nellie Ohr, who conducted opposition research on Trump and passed it to her husband, associate deputy attorney general Bruce Ohr.

Feb. 7, 2018: Justice Department official David Laufman, who helped oversee the Clinton and Russia probes, steps down as chief of National Security Division’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section.

Feb. 9, 2018: Former FBI Director Comey assistant Josh Campbell leaves FBI for job at CNN.

Justice Department Associate Attorney General, Office of Legal Policy, Rachel Brand, resigns.

Feb. 16, 2018: Special counsel Mueller obtains guilty plea from a Dutch attorney for lying to federal investigators about the last time he spoke to Rick Gates regarding a 2012 project related to Ukraine. The plea does not appear to relate to 2016 campaign or Trump. The Dutch attorney is married to the daughter of a Russian oligarch who’s suing Buzzfeed and Christopher Steele for alleged defamation in the “dossier.”

Feb. 22, 2018: Former State Dept. official and Sen. John McCain associate David Kramer invokes his Fifth Amendment right not to testify before House Intelligence Committee. Kramer reportedly picked up the anti-Trump political opposition research in London and delivered it to Sen. McCain who delivered it to the FBI.

Special counsel Mueller files new charges against former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and former campaign aide Rick Gates, accusing them of additional tax and bank fraud crimes. The allegations appear to be unrelated to Trump.

Fri. Feb. 23, 2018: Former Trump campaign aide Rick Gates, pleads guilty to conspiracy and lying to investigators (though he issues a statement saying he’s innocent of the indictment charges). The allegations and plea have no apparent link to Trump-Russia campaign collusion.

Sat. Feb. 24, 2018: Democrats on House Intel Committee release their rebuttal memo to the Republican version that summarized alleged FBI misconduct re: using the GPS Fusion opposition research to get wiretap against Carter Page.

https://sharylattkisson.com/2018/03/06/collusion-against-trump-timeline/

[Reck]

A timeline? And?

[Chris]

A timeline? And?

Sessions is notoriously quiet when he is pursuing something. Gaetz and Dobbs throwing a fit doesn't convince me. If you think he's going to sit back and let it ride, then you are sadly mistaken.

[Chris]

971266696618086401

[Pavlov]

A timeline? And?TSA goes with walls of texts when he has nothing to say himself.

The backflips Trump supporters have to do to make themselves continue to believe their narratives they never actually declare....

lol

[boutons_deux]

Ex-Defense official tells MSNBC: ‘Putin has crossed every red line’ — and Trump has done ‘precisely nothing’

Jeremy Bash, who served a senior advisor to Leon Panetta in both roles,

disputed the president’s claim that his administration was “working very hard” to counter Russian attacks

on American democracy.



“They have done precisely nothing to secure our election systems,” Bash said

The director of national intelligence, Dan Coats, warned (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/cyber-attack-intel-chief-says-we-dont-have-policy-on-russia-meddling/) Tuesday that

Russia had launched a “cyber attack” against the U.S.,

but Bash said the president was still claiming that other nations or individuals may be to blame.

“We’re talking about the 400-pound guy in the basement,” Bash said.

“He’s minimizing Russia’s role,

the State Department hasn’t spent any of the $120 million budgeted to fight foreign election interference.

The president is sending mixed signals, and his team doesn’t know whether they have the running room to take on Russia.”

“Putin has crossed every red line and our government, our president, is doing nothing about it,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/ex-defense-official-tells-msnbc-putin-crossed-every-red-line-trump-done-precisely-nothing/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Trump says Russia had 'no impact' on 2016 election votes

but vowed to combat any attempts to meddle in the 2018 midterms. :lol

he again suggested that other countries may have been involved and continued to insist the final results were not affected by Moscow.

"Certainly there was meddling. Probably there was meddling from other countries,"

He's called the investigation into the interference, led by special counsel Robert Mueller, a "hoax."

And he's said he takes Russian President Vladimir Putin at his word when he denies having ordered the meddling campaign.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/06/politics/russia-election-meddling-donald-trump/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/06/politics/russia-election-meddling-donald-trump/index.html)

How about guiding/aind the (red/slave) states in modernizing their voting equipment, which state Repugs have refused to do (easier to queer the vote, simpler for counting fraud)?

btw, 75K votes from Flint MI were simply not counted in 2016. https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/michigan

And that just the votes not counted only in Flint area. Then there's WI and PA.

[boutons_deux]

Repugs deflecting from yet another Repug Pres doing down

House Oversight Committee Calls For Special Counsel To Investigate Crimes At Obama's DOJ

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27919/breaking-house-oversight-committee-calls-special-ryan-saavedra

Obama!

Hillary!

Benghazi!

[djohn2oo8]

971388019281408000

[RandomGuy]

TSA goes with walls of texts when he has nothing to say himself.

The backflips Trump supporters have to do to make themselves continue to believe their narratives they never actually declare....

lol

What is funny is that TSA swears he cares about the rule of law... but the NDA for the porn star clearly violated federal campaign law, with Trumps knowledge.

That right there is just the tip of the shitberg. "but Hillary..." :rolleyes

The thing about "crooked" Hillary, and "lock her up" is that she is accused of the EXACT SAME KINDS of corruption that Crooked Donny is doing, but on a massive scale, but none of the stupid mother fuckers will admit that someone with the magic "R" is doing the same, but 100 times worse.

Hypocritical sacks of shit.

[Blake]

If anyone is sitting at the kid's table, it's you and dodgerjohn. :lol Blake is pouting in the car :lol

Wut

I haven't even read the last 3-4 pages but it's a safe bet you and tsa are getting the usual whippings

[TSA]

A timeline? And?

You asked what changed since the video you posted of Jordan and Sessions. You were provided every resignation and all new facts that have come to light. Look at the list of all the people Horowitz has no authority to investigate since they are out of government.

[TSA]

What is funny is that TSA swears he cares about the rule of law... but the NDA for the porn star clearly violated federal campaign law, with Trumps knowledge.

That right there is just the tip of the shitberg. "but Hillary..." :rolleyes

The thing about "crooked" Hillary, and "lock her up" is that she is accused of the EXACT SAME KINDS of corruption that Crooked Donny is doing, but on a massive scale, but none of the stupid mother fuckers will admit that someone with the magic "R" is doing the same, but 100 times worse.

Hypocritical sacks of shit.

If Trump broke campaign finance law then fine him. I'm sure you support Hillary's campaign being fined for violating campaign finance law as well....twice.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/12/27/whats-behind-the-claim-that-hillary-clinton-got-84-million-in-illegal-contributions/?utm_term=.cfc6478b3ce7

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/25/fec-complaint-accuses-clinton-dnc-violations/

[Chucho]

Repugs deflecting from yet another Repug Pres doing down

House Oversight Committee Calls For Special Counsel To Investigate Crimes At Obama's DOJ

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27919/breaking-house-oversight-committee-calls-special-ryan-saavedra

Obama!

Hillary!

Benghazi!


Crimes ok, now? Or only because they're Demo crimes?

[RandomGuy]

Hillary's

:rollin

Hillary Teretts syndrome strikes again. :lmao

You hypocritical shits can't help yourselves.

[TSA]

:rollin

Hillary Teretts syndrome strikes again. :lmao

You hypocritical shits can't help yourselves.

You brought up campaign finance laws and Hillary Clinton not me. I said if Trump violated it then fine him as the law states.

Trump, Clinton, and Sanders all violated campaign finance laws yet you only talk about Trump. Who is the real hypocrite here?

[Pavlov]

If Trump broke campaign finance law then fine him. I'm sure you support Hillary's campaign being fined for violating campaign finance law as well....twice.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/12/27/whats-behind-the-claim-that-hillary-clinton-got-84-million-in-illegal-contributions/?utm_term=.cfc6478b3ce7

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/25/fec-complaint-accuses-clinton-dnc-violations/Those articles don't say what you want them to say.

[TSA]

Those articles don't say what you want them to say.

2 FEC complaints were filed against Hillary's campaign. The articles say exactly what they say.

[Pavlov]

2 FEC complaints were filed against Hillary's campaign. The articles say exactly what they say.Filing a complaint doesn't make it a violation.

Has the FEC actually ruled on either complaint?

[djohn2oo8]

Filing a complaint doesn't make it a violation.

Has the FEC actually ruled on either complaint?

Lordy!

[TSA]

Filing a complaint doesn't make it a violation.

Has the FEC actually ruled on either complaint?

No. Has the FEC ruled on Trump violating campaign finance law?

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

971461748535390213

[Pavlov]

No. Has the FEC ruled on Trump violating campaign finance law?Nope. To my knowledge, no complaint has even been filed.

[TSA]

Nope. To my knowledge, no complaint has even been filed.

Great talk.

[TSA]

971460478412058624

Look at what your Trump/Russia collusion thread has devolved into. Sad.

[Pavlov]

Look at what your Trump/Russia collusion thread has devolved into. Sad.True, that belongs in the "Trump is doing awesome" thread.

Still, I don't think TSA has ever commented on the security clearance issue at all.

[TSA]

True, that belongs in the "Trump is doing awesome" thread.

Still, I don't think TSA has ever commented on the security clearance issue at all.

What's there to comment on? John Kelly announced in February that they'd be overhauling the process for granting security clearances. If you think it's big news that people are now being denied clearances you must not have known about the shortcomings of the previous system. I don't remember you having a problem with Ben Rhodes being denied a security clearance by the FBI and then getting clearance for all 8 years based on an individual waiver granted by Obama.

[Pavlov]

What's there to comment on? John Kelly announced in February that they'd be overhauling the process for granting security clearances. If you think it's big news that people are now being denied clearances you must not have known about the shortcomings of the previous system. I don't remember you having a problem with Ben Rhodes being denied a security clearance by the FBI and then getting clearance for all 8 years based on an individual waiver granted by Obama.I never heard about it tbh but good on you for *ding*ing an issue you don't even care about.

[TSA]

I never heard about it tbh but good on you for *ding*ing an issue you don't even care about.

And good on you for only caring about security clearances when it came to the Trump administration.

[Pavlov]

And good on you for only caring about security clearances when it came to the Trump administration.I said I never heard of it, TSA. It's impossible for me to care about something I never heard of.

Can you show me a non-right wing source for the story on Rhodes? I'd love to read it.

[djohn2oo8]

Look at what your Trump/Russia collusion thread has devolved into. Sad.

It's still going strong. Mueller still bringing charges and gathering more witnesses. Your president put people in the white house who couldn't even get a security clearance. More people resigning. Winning.

[Pavlov]

Should we check TSA's pizzagate thread to see what new great heights it has reached?

[TSA]

I said I never heard of it, TSA. It's impossible for me to care about something I never heard of.

Can you show me a non-right wing source for the story on Rhodes? I'd love to read it.

You can show yourself a story on Rhodes if you truly would love to read about it.

[TSA]

It's still going strong. Mueller still bringing charges and gathering more witnesses. Your president put people in the white house who couldn't even get a security clearance. More people resigning. Winning.

:lol still going strong without a single charge having to do with Trump/Russia collusion

For 8 years your President granted an individual waiver to his Deputy National Security Advisor because the FBI wouldn’t grant him clearance.

[TSA]

:lol still going strong without a single charge having to do with Trump/Russia collusion

For 8 years your President granted an individual waiver to his Deputy National Security Advisor because the FBI wouldn’t grant him clearance.

Out of 187 applicants Ben Rhodes was the only one denied. Where was your outrage back then djohn?

[Pavlov]

You can show yourself a story on Rhodes if you truly would love to read about it.I did a search and honestly couldn't find a source that wasn't a right wing article.

I'll conclude it's fake news. Easy call.

How's #pizzagate going?

[Pavlov]

Out of 187 applicants Ben Rhodes was the only one denied. Where was your outrage back then djohn?Damn, you really want to talk about this thing you don't care about, don't you?

[djohn2oo8]

:lol still going strong without a single charge having to do with Trump/Russia collusion

For 8 years your President granted an individual waiver to his Deputy National Security Advisor because the FBI wouldn’t grant him clearance.

You said no one besides Susan Rice would be indicted. Lordy!

[RandomGuy]

The Washington Post dropped a new story late Tuesday about how Trump idiot lawyer who is bad at law Michael Cohen is one of the latest figures to come under Robert Mueller’s microscope.

The first thing Mueller wants to know about is Cohen’s role in the failed Moscow Trump Tower project, which we detailed in posts here and here. We are only about 99% sure that particular Art Of The (No) Deal, and the story of Trump’s dealings in Russia in the months and years before he ran for president, are key in unlocking the truth about Russia’s plan to steal the election from Hillary Clinton and give it to PoopStain McOrange.

Cohen was involved in the Trump Tower Moscow deal early on in the Trump campaign, in late 2015, which was the second time it failed. Cohen worked on the deal with Russian-American organized crime figure Felix Sater, who used to work for the Trump Organization, and in emails between the two, they marveled at how two young bucks from Brooklyn were going use this so-called “tower deal” to get a president elected, with Vladimir Putin’s support! That is just every little boy’s dream, if they are a little boy who is a traitor. Unfortunately, the plan went to shit, even though Sater was like, “Hey Michael Cohen, you should email Putin’s right hand guy, who according to the DODGY DOSSIER also has a bunch of dirt on Hillary Clinton, to get him to save our skyscraper project!”

But was that deal really just about a dumb ugly skyscraper with gold windows and space age bedding that absorbs Russian hooker pee without even leaving a stain? OR WAS IT MORE? Robert Mueller is just asking questions!

about that time Cohen worked with Andrii Artemenko, a pro-Russia Ukrainian politician, and also with Felix Sater (hello again, Felix!), on a “peace plan” for Ukraine, which he was supposed to give to National Security Advisor (for 11 days) Michael Flynn. Surprise, it would have gotten rid of all the Russian sanctions, in exchange for peace! But did Michael Cohen actually do the deed and slip the plan to Flynn? Well, according to Michael Cohen in the New York Times, he tied it up with a bow and stuffed it down Michael Flynn’s pants!


Read more at https://wonkette.com/630919/robert-mueller-gonna-says-who-right-up-trump-lawyer-michael-cohens-ass#ATO43cayMbSQGylm.99


.... or something like that.

Dang.

[Brazil]

Well one of the big takeaway of all this story is that Trump team is full of liars tbh...

:lol

[RandomGuy]

Robert Mueller’s New Cooperating Witness Might Just Blow Trump’s Russian Conspiracy WIDE OPEN


Remember that weird meeting in Seychelles late in the Trump transition, facilitated by Sheik Muhammad bin Zayed, the fucking crown prince of Abu Dhabi, where Blackwater pig trash Erik Prince, who was unofficially representing the Trump people, hooked up with a Russian oligarch guy, Kirill Dmitriev, the director of the Russian Direct Investment Fund, who is close to Putin? The investment fund, into which the UAE invests a lot of money, is under sanctions, because of Russia’s illegal invasion of Crimea. In Prince’s obviously dishonest testimony to Congress, it was no big deal, and he basically got on an airplane to go to the Seychelles to eat dinner by himself, pump his nipple muscles in the gym by himself, and fly away the next morning. (Of course, as Politico’s Kyle Cheney notes on Twitter, Prince also accidentally seemed to acknowledge in his testimony that intel intercepts of that trip might expose his cover story as a big lie, but he obviously didn’t mean to say that.)

Anyway, Nader was there for that meeting, as the crown prince’s representative!

Also, Nader used to work for Blackwater, isn’t that just too coincidental?


Read more at https://wonkette.com/630900/robert-muellers-new-cooperating-witness-might-just-blow-trumps-russian-conspiracy-wide-open#ADiMK2iEUBCkJGqw.99

Following the money.

This dude Nader showed up for a party at Mar-a-Lago and Mueller's people met him at the airport in Dulles and stuffed subpoenas down his pants too. HAHAHHAHAHAHA

[RandomGuy]

You said no one besides Susan Rice would be indicted. Lordy!

So many cooperating witnesses... so little time.


INEXORABLE.

[TSA]

Damn, you really want to talk about this thing you don't care about, don't you?

not really

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11883

[Pavlov]

not really

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11883:lmao except you continue to talk about it.

Why do you lie?

Also -- leaks good now.

[spurraider21]

not really

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11883
ok. so he didn't get interim clearance.

per your own link...


If his interim status is denied, the FBI will still undertake a full-clearance process review of his application post-election and make a final determination.
so what happened?

[RandomGuy]

not really

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11883

So you think this Nader guy has dirt on Hillary?

:rollin

[TSA]

Robert Mueller’s New Cooperating Witness Might Just Blow Trump’s Russian Conspiracy WIDE OPEN



Read more at https://wonkette.com/630900/robert-muellers-new-cooperating-witness-might-just-blow-trumps-russian-conspiracy-wide-open#ADiMK2iEUBCkJGqw.99

Following the money.

This dude showed up for a party at Mar-a-Lago and Mueller's people met him at the airport in Dulles and stuffed subpoenas down his pants too. HAHAHHAHAHAHA

:lol following the money

http://www.elportal.com.do/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/punta-cana.png

Here's Bill and George relaxing in the Dominican Republic

http://www.elportal.com.do/en/bill-clinton-piscina-resort-punta-cana-acompanado-george-nader/

George Nader is a listed donor for the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Foundation took in over $10 million from the UAE while Hillary was Secretary of State.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/clinton-foundation-donor-list/

[TSA]

:lmao except you continue to talk about it.

Why do you lie?

Also -- leaks good now.

You keep asking questions about it. If I don't respond you'll say I'm dodging, if I do respond you'll say I want to talk about it. I really don't care about it as Ben Rhodes is gone I just found it funny you didn't know about the controversy back then.

[TSA]

So you think this Nader guy has dirt on Hillary?

:rollin

Yes, yes I do.

[Chris]

971505696939368448

[Blake]

It's obvious. Just connect the dots

https://img.memecdn.com/remix-it-and-connect-the-dots-to-make-a-picture-of-an-animal-you-dont-need-to-connect-all-the-dots_o_2502275.jpg

[Chris]

971491840879837184

[Pavlov]

You keep asking questions about it. If I don't respond you'll say I'm dodging, if I do respond you'll say I want to talk about it. I really don't care about it as Ben Rhodes is gone I just found it funny you didn't know about the controversy back then.Probably because it was a made up controversy; i.e., fake news.

As I said, I can't find anything outside your blogs that mentions anything about it.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

[Pavlov]

971491840879837184Steele good now?

[Chris]

Steele good now?

Evidence bad now

[Pavlov]

Evidence bad nowWhat evidence?

[RandomGuy]

Clinton Foundation

:rollin

Clinton Teretts Syndrome strikes again.

[Chris]

What evidence?

Unreleased memo. Try to keep up please.

[Pavlov]

Unreleased memo. Try to keep up please.Steele memos good now?

[RandomGuy]

971491840879837184

Rich being a loose end tied up by Russian intelligence. It fits, as I have pointed out before.

[Chris]

Steele memos good now?

Evidence bad now.

[RandomGuy]

So you think this Nader guy has dirt on Hillary?


Yes, yes I do.

Wow. What? What is he offering Mueller?

Do tell. Wile E. TSA

Det trap is set, right? :lmao

[Pavlov]

Evidence bad now.I'm fine with that memo.

Are you fine with all the other memos, Chris?

Yes or no.

[Chris]

I'm fine with that memo.

Let us proceed.


Are you fine with all the other memos, Chris?

Yes or no.

No. I'm fine with the Nunes memo and the impending IG report. I don't have a blanket opinion on every memo. Does that make sense to you?

[TSA]

:rollin

Clinton Teretts Syndrome strikes again.

You said Mueller was following the money, did you not know about the Clinton/Nader connection?

https://i.imgflip.com/19vq8a.jpg

[spurraider21]

not really

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11883
ok. so he didn't get interim clearance.

per your own link...


If his interim status is denied, the FBI will still undertake a full-clearance process review of his application post-election and make a final determination.
so what happened?

[TSA]

Wow. What? What is he offering Mueller?

Do tell. Wile E. TSA

Det trap is set, right? :lmao

971476944280731648

sure the fuck is

[RandomGuy]

You said Mueller was following the money, did you not know about the Clinton/Nader connection?



I asked you to outline what information he had on Hillary that Mueller wants. This is your chance to talk about your theory and Hillary. Splain it, Wile E.

[Chris]

971476944280731648

sure the fuck is

lol Reck

[TSA]

ok. so he didn't get interim clearance.

per your own link...


so what happened?

I don't care about Rhodes, figure it out if you are so curious.

[Pavlov]

Let us proceed.Get your own catchphrase..




No. I'm fine with the Nunes memo and the impending IG report. I don't have a blanket opinion on every memo. Does that make sense to you?I was talking about the Steele memos.

You're saying Steele memo good if it seems to support your conspiracy theory -- correct?

No one ever mentioned the others you're trying to use to confuse the issue.

[RandomGuy]

https://i.imgflip.com/19vq8a.jpg

Hillary is meh. You have yet to say why she is unethical. Wonder why that is.

Conflicts of Interest bad or not? Pony up to that, shit for brains.