Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Pavlov]

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✔ (https://twitter.com/ChrisLu44)@ChrisLu44 (https://twitter.com/ChrisLu44)

I served 4 years in the Obama White House. I never hired a lawyer, and I don't know anyone who did.

Just thought I'd point that out.

8:19 PM - 13 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/ChrisLu44/status/885669938094067713)


:lol Trump and his criminal gang, JOB CREATORS! :lol

[Chucho]

Why intimidated by article? Why not practice what you preach? You Leftist, that why.

[Pavlov]

Why intimidated by article? Why not practice what you preach? You Leftist, that why.
You mean scoop pic?

You not get obvious joke. Why?

Think about scoop pic and article. Try put together. Can help you if you still no get.

[DarrinS]

This election was more about Hillary ignoring Wisconsin than it was about embarrassing emails, tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

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Pee pee tape incoming

[boutons_deux]

Pee pee tape incoming

no, Trash is Pootin's BFF protege

Russians will kick out US diplomats, and maybe others (but keep Snowden)

[djohn2oo8]

no, Trash is Pootin's BFF protege

Russians will kick out US diplomats, and maybe others (but keep Snowden)

Yes. At the Same time Putin will expose Trump if he doesn't get those sanctions lifted.

[DarrinS]

Pee pee tape incoming

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[Reck]

I thought your wife/girlfriend preferred anal. :lol

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269644&page=3&p=9088705&viewfull=1#post9088705

Darrins knows everything that happens on this board. What a life. :lol

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Yes. At the Same time Putin will expose Trump if he doesn't get those sanctions lifted.

I really really doubt that Pootin will turn on Trash. Pootin is still winning his Long Game by throwing the USA's so-called democracy into self-doubt and deeper polarization, and Trash weakening international cooperation, solidarity, which Pootin benefits from.

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Kushner goes radioactive as White House spokespeople scatter (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/14/1680664/-Kushner-goes-radioactive-as-White-House-spokespeople-scatter)

Donald Trump’s son-in-law and top White House aide Jared Kushner has a lot of great ideas these days but, for some reason,

he can't get the hazmat-clad White House spokespeople to take them up.

The political instincts of Kushner, who urged his father-in-law to fire former FBI director James Comey and also assured him (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/13/1680375/-Kushner-assured-Trump-the-bombshell-Russian-meeting-disclosure-wouldn-t-cause-any-problems)disclosing the Don Jr. meeting would be a cakewalk, are clearly unassailable.

Now he wants to see a more aggressive defense of the bombshell he passed off as a breeze,

but the White House press shop isn't buying it and not just because Kushner's advice has proven, well, wanting.

They're desperately trying to save their own butts,

writes (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/13/kushner-pushed-aggressive-defense-russia-meeting-240535) Politico's Tara Palmeri:

Some of the communications aides, including press secretary Sean Spicer, and other senior staffers have expressed reservations. They say it’s best to leave it to outside counsel to handle the furor around Trump Jr., and

fear inviting further legal jeopardy if Trump aides and allies more forcefully defend a meeting that they don’t fully know the details of,

according to the sources. [...]

A source close to Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and a top White House adviser, said that while he doesn’t have an exact plan for an overall Russia response,

he was angry that there wasn’t a more robust effort from the communications team.

Kushner wanted them to complain about chyrons on cable news, call reporters to update stories with White House statements, and unleash surrogates immediately.

He was angry that there were no talking points offered to surrogates, the source said.

One senior administration official suggested that two aides from the communications shop be dedicated to updating chyrons. [...]

"Jared wanted to get surrogates, he wanted an op-ed in The [Wall Street] Journal and The [New York] Times, and we said,

‘Wait, we have to talk through how that will play out.

Who is going to say it,

who is going to put their name on the op-ed and

what baggage do they have?’"

the outside adviser also said.


There's a reason we haven't seen any of that—it's a toxic waste heap and Spicer, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and other

communications staff both want and need to limit their legal liabilities

(most of them can’t afford to lawyer up the way Kushner, Pence, and others have).

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/14/1680664/-Kushner-goes-radioactive-as-White-House-spokespeople-scatter?detail=emaildkre

[Thread]

Darrins knows everything that happens on this board. What a life. :lol

& you're right in there with us, Recky.

You act so high & mighty, but, you've nary room.

[spurraider21]

Darrins knows everything that happens on this board. What a life. :lol
i have a good memory too, that's not something to mock tbh

[Thread]

i have a good memory too, that's not something to mock tbh

Albeit very selective.

[Reck]

& you're right in there with us, Recky.

You act so high & mighty, but, you've nary room.

I try to be balanced while remainding in one side though.

You folks said Hillary was a terrible candidate...I conceded that notion.
You folks said the DNC played favors...I conceded that notion.


Folks on the right however, like to lodge complaints and rarely admit when the gig is up.

[Adam Lambert]

This election was more about Hillary ignoring Wisconsin than it was about embarrassing emails, tbh.

while that may be true it didnt stop you all from bitching about the emails for months leading up to the election. you werent bitching about wisconsin. it was all :cry national security :cry over her :cry personal email server :cry

no concern for national security now i guess even though jared kushner is basically carrying around a kgb id at this point.

[spurraider21]

I try to be balanced
:lol

[AaronY]

Hillary was a real boring speaker her going to Wisconsin wouldn't have changed anything

[DMX7]

Trump is a walking talking cartoon. I have no doubt there is a pee tape. It makes too much sense.

[spurraider21]

if hillary won wisconsin she still loses the electoral college... but i'm sure its easier to argue that

[Reck]

:lol

What's so funny?

I am. It just so happens we're in a time where you have to show your bias more. Dealing with the Trumpies necesitates this.

They will regardless tag you as anti Trump if you dont like dear leader's views.

[spurraider21]

What's so funny?

I am.
:lol

[boutons_deux]

"This election was more about Hillary ignoring Wisconsin than it was about embarrassing emails, tbh."

goddamn, you're stupid Fox sheeple

[Reck]

:lol

And you give Thread a hard time for parroting? Next

[Thread]

Trump is a walking talking cartoon. I have no doubt there is a pee tape. It makes too much sense.

& so what if there is, it's a personal choice, a behavioral preference. Perhaps he & Mel have an arrangement:::"I don't want to do it anymore, Da,,,,,, I mean Donald, but, you need to grant on your onions, so, go forth." - Mel

[djohn2oo8]

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But I thought he didn't know of the meeting :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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[Pavlov]

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But I thought he didn't know of the meeting :lmaoHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

Junior broke!

Need handout from coal miner donors!

[djohn2oo8]

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[Thread]

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But I thought he didn't know of the meeting :lmao

Perhaps it was just a hand down from father to Junior.

[Pavlov]

Perhaps it was just a hand down from father to Junior.That be super illegal.

Even for Trump.

[Thread]

I try to be balanced while remainding in one side though.

You folks said Hillary was a terrible candidate...I conceded that notion.
You folks said the DNC played favors...I conceded that notion.


Folks on the right however, like to lodge complaints and rarely admit when the gig is up.

I've stipulated several times.

[Thread]

That be super illegal.

Even for Trump.

How so? "Dad, I need 5 stacks of high society."

"Done."

How is that illegal?

[djohn2oo8]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

Junior broke!

Need handout from coal miner donors!

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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[Pavlov]

How so? "Dad, I need 5 stacks of high society."

"Done."

How is that illegal?Re-election fund not Junior piggy bank.

[Thread]

:lmao

Look at this:::dj acting all excited.

+ you ain't spoke to me in like a coon's age. You ain't nothing but a hound dog.

[Thread]

Re-election fund not Junior piggy bank.

How do we know where the 50k came from?

[djohn2oo8]

Re-election fund not Junior piggy bank.

The paper trail now will absolutely confirm Junior was acting on behalf of the campaign when he took that meeting.

[Pavlov]

How do we know where the 50k came from?https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEy49iGWAAAiLgL.jpg:large

[Pavlov]

The paper trail now will absolutely confirm Junior was acting on behalf of the campaign when he took that meeting.Well, Manafort there. Hard to deny.

[Thread]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEy49iGWAAAiLgL.jpg:large

By God, you're right in there with the answers, ain't ya? You SOB, you!

[Pavlov]

By God, you're right in there with the answers, ain't ya? You SOB, you!Was already posted here.
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[Thread]

Was already posted here.

So, where does it spell out that this activity is deemed illegal?

[Pavlov]

So, where does it spell out that this activity is deemed illegal?Not illegal to give to lawyer in this case. Just giving to Junior at this point would be

[Thread]

Not illegal to give to lawyer in this case. Just giving to Junior at this point would be

Seriously, Pav's, where does it state that to do this (Trump to Junior) is illegal?

[Pavlov]

Seriously, Pav's, where does it state that to do this (Trump to Junior) is illegal?Is campaign funds, silly billy.

[Thread]

Is campaign funds, silly billy.

And is this stated somewhere, or, just implied?

P.S., and I ain't being an asshole here, or, running you thru circles as is apt on this Board, but, I'd like to see something in writing that says this is illegal.

[Reck]

And is this stated somewhere, or, just implied?

P.S., and I ain't being an asshole here, or, running you thru circles as is apt on this Board, but, I'd like to see something in writing that says this is illegal.

Something about this being money from Trump's re-election campaign.

I myself dont know what to make of this but it sure seems unethical. Probably not illegal but I'd be mad if I donated to Trump only to have him give that money to bail Donnie Jr.

[Thread]

Something about this being money from Trump's re-election campaign.

I myself dont know what to make of this but it sure seems unethical. Probably not illegal but I'd be mad if I donated to Trump only to have him give that money to bail Donnie Jr.

Probably the lion's share of donors don't care where it goes after the check is cut. I wouldn't if I ever donated (which I won't) (tee, hee).

[Pavlov]

Since he work for campain while play footsie with Russians, Junior can get money for lawyer regarding footsie. Timing of transfer suspect.

[djohn2oo8]

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[Thread]

Since he work for campain while play footsie with Russians, Junior can get money for lawyer regarding footsie. Timing of transfer suspect.

He didn't play footsie, Pav's. They said that they had not only dirt on Hillary, but, damnable dirt on her. Of course you're gonna meet & secure said dd. Secure that territory, secure that turf. Because if you handled correctly, it's all your territory.

They was searchin' high & low for Trump's dirt. Accused him of water sports, 3-somes, 4-somes, more-somes. If you're gonna dish it, you have to take it.

[spurraider21]

He didn't play footsie, Pav's. They said that they had not only dirt on Hillary, but, damnable dirt on her. Of course you're gonna meet & secure said dd. Secure that territory, secure that turf. Because if you handled correctly, it's all your territory.

They was searchin' high & low for Trump's dirt. Accused him of water sports, 3-somes, 4-somes, more-somes. If you're gonna dish it, you have to take it.where did hillary's campaign accuse him of the water sports/3-somes?

that came out after the election because it was in the president's briefing :lol

[Thread]

where did hillary's campaign accuse him of the water sports/3-somes?

that came out after the election because it was in the president's briefing

After Bill & Hillary left Donald's bed.:lol

[Pavlov]

He didn't play footsie, Pav's. They said that they had not only dirt on Hillary, but, damnable dirt on her. Of course you're gonna meet & secure said dd. Secure that territory, secure that turf. Because if you handled correctly, it's all your territory.

They was searchin' high & low for Trump's dirt. Accused him of water sports, 3-somes, 4-somes, more-somes. If you're gonna dish it, you have to take it.They found Junior playing footsie with Russians.

[DarrinS]

Breaking: At least 100 people in the meeting, including Putin.

[Pavlov]

Darrin break back moving goalposts.

[DarrinS]

We have no interest in reporting actual collusion between Hillary campaign and foreign governments.

[Chris]

A Haitian Government official who was about to expose the Clinton Foundations malpractice and corruption in Haiti has been found dead.

Yournewswire.com reported: Klaus Eberwein, a former Haitian government official who was expected to expose the extent of Clinton Foundation corruption and malpractice next week, has been found dead in Miami. He was 50.
Eberwein was due to appear next Tuesday before the Haitian Senate Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission where he was widely expected to testify that the Clinton Foundation misappropriated Haiti earthquake donations from international donors.
According to Miami-Dade’s medical examiner records supervisor, the official cause of death is “gunshot to the head“. Eberwein’s death has been registered as “suicide.”
Eberwein, who had acknowledged his life was in danger, was a fierce critic of the Clinton Foundation’s activities in the Caribbean island, where he served as director general of the government’s economic development agency, Fonds d’assistance économique et social, for three years.
According to Eberwein, a paltry 0.6% of donations granted by international donors to the Clinton Foundation with the express purpose of directly assisting Haitians actually ended up in the hands of Haitian organizations. A further 9.6% ended up with the Haitian government. The remaining 89.8% – or $5.4 billion – was funneled to non-Haitian organizations.
“The Clinton Foundation, they are criminals, they are thieves, they are liars, they are a disgrace,” Eberwein said at a protest outside the Clinton Foundation headquarters in Manhattan last year.
The former director general of Haiti, who also served as an advisor to Haitian President Michel Martelly, was also a partner in a popular pizza restaurant in Haiti, Muncheez, and even has a pizza — the Klaus Special — named after him.
According to the Haiti Libre newspaper, Eberwein was said to be in “good spirits“, with plans for the future. His close friends and business partners are shocked by the idea he may have committed suicide.
“It’s really shocking,” said Muncheez’s owner Gilbert Bailly. “We grew up together; he was like family.”
Bailly said he last spoke to Eberwein two weeks ago and he was in good spirits. They were excited about future business plans and were working on opening a Muncheez restaurant in Sunrise, he said.
The Haitian government issued an official notice thanking Eberwein for his service and mourning his untimely death.


https://archive.fo/D33R8

[Pavlov]

Darrin working straight from Hannity/TSA playbook.

Trump President not Clinton, Darrin.

[Chris]

According to a close friend of the Clinton investigator who was reported dead by suicide, it may not have been a suicide at all.

Dailycaller reported: A Wall Street analyst who spoke to Peter Smith the day before he reportedly committed suicide told the Daily Caller News Foundation there were no indications the Chicago businessman and anti-Clinton political investigator was about to take his life.

“He may have been a fantastic actor but I certainly didn’t leave that phone call saying, ‘oh shit, the guy’s at the end of his rope,’” Charles Ortel, a Wall Street investment banker and market analyst, told The Daily Caller News Foundation’s (TheDCNF) Investigative Group.

“This does not seem like a settled story. It made perfect sense to me he might have died of natural causes, but little chance he would have killed himself,” Ortel said.

Ortel and Smith shared a common interest in the Clintons. Ortel has dug deeply into the financial operations of the Clinton Foundation. He first came to public attention in 2007 by exposing questionable accounting practices at General Electric. Ortel has similarly expressed doubts about the circumstances of Seth Rich’s murder — which police have concluded was a robbery gone wrong — commending those “who are trying to discover why so many people close to the last election have died along the way.”

The difference here is that Ortel knew Smith personally.

“We had countless discussions,” Ortel recalled of his relationship with Smith. “He was using his unique decades of experience in politics to offer me advice how to expose the Clinton Foundation.”

The Chicago Tribune reported Thursday that the Minnesota death record states Smith committed suicide in a hotel room May 14.

The investigator’s death came only 10 days after a Wall Street Journal interview by investigative reporter Shane Harris, who focused on Smith’s attempts to locate 33,000 emails deleted by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton before she surrendered her email server to federal authorities.

The Tribune reported that Smith was asphyxiated. “He was found with a bag over his head with a source of helium attached.”

Prior to Thursday’s revelation, it was assumed the 81-year old political investigator had died of natural causes while at the Mayo Clinic.

Ortel vigorously dismissed the allegation that Smith took his own life. Ortel, who may have been the last person to speak with Smith prior to his death, told TheDCNF there were no indications the wealthy Chicago businessman was about to commit suicide the next day.

“It was a friendly chat,” Ortel recalled of the phone conversation that occurred May 13. “But it certainly wasn’t the kind of chat where a person might go out and purchase two helium canisters and put a bag over your head. That made no sense,” Ortel said.

According to the death certificate, Smith died at 1:17 pm Central Time on Sunday, May 14.

Ortel said Smith did not appear depressed or give any hints he might be on the verge of taking his life.

“Absolutely not,” Ortel said. “He was excited to learn the particulars of a project we had been discussing.”

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/14/exclusive-doubt-surfaces-about-suicide-claim-of-clinton-investigator/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

[Chris]

Judicial Watch today released 448 pages of documents from the U.S. Department of State revealing new incidents of Huma Abedin, deputy chief of staff to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, providing special State Department treatment to major donors to the Clinton Foundation and political campaigns.

The heavily redacted documents from Abedin’s non-government account include an email from Hillary Clinton’s brother, Tony Rodham, to Abedin revealing that he acted as a go-between for a Clinton Foundation donor, Richard Park. And they reveal Clinton Foundation executive Doug Band instructing Abedin to “show love” to Clinton donor Andrew Liveris.

The documents included six Clinton email exchanges not previously turned over to the State Department, bringing the known total to date to at least 439 emails that were not part of the 55,000 pages of emails that Clinton turned over to the State Department, and further contradicting a statement by Clinton that, “as far as she knew,” all of her government emails had been turned over to the State Department.

The documents are in response to a court order from a May 5, 2015, lawsuit filed against the State Department (Judicial Watch, Inc. v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:15-cv-00684)) for: “All emails of official State Department business received or sent by former Deputy Chief of Staff Huma Abedin from January 1, 2009 through February 1, 2013 using a non-‘state.gov’ email address.”

A number of emails show the free flow of information and requests for favors between Clinton’s State Department and the Clinton Foundation.

In July 2009, in reference to the US-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue, Clinton Global Initiative head Doug Band told Abedin that she “Need[s] to show love” to Andrew Liveris, the CEO of Dow Chemical. Band also asked for Liveris to be introduced to Hillary, “and have her mention both me and wjc”. Dow gave between $1 million and $5 million to the Clinton Foundation and Clinton Global Initiative. Band also pushes for Clinton to do a favor for Karlheinz Koegel, a major Clinton Foundation contributor, who wanted Hillary Clinton to give the “honor speech” for his media prize to “Merkel.”

The emails reveal that on June 19, 2009, Clinton’s brother, Tony Rodham, passed a long a letter for Hillary Clinton for Clinton donor Richard Park. Park donated $100,000 to Bill Clinton as far back as 1993 and is listed by the Clinton Foundation as a $100,000 to $250,000 donor.

The Washington Examiner reported:

In March 2012, Bill Clinton received an invitation to speak at the Kaesong Industrial Complex in North Korea…. Richard Park’s friendship with Tony Rodham earned him a direct line to Hillary Clinton while she served as secretary of state. In January 2013, the Korean businessman sent Rodham an email and asked him to “forward this to your sister.”


On November 14, 2009, Clinton donor Ben Ringel, who has appeared in numerous prior emails asking for favors, emailed Abedin to get help in getting an Iranian woman a visa to come to the United States. He writes: “We need to get her clearance even only temporary to be with her granddaughter.” Abedin forwarded the request to Lauren Jiloty, asking her “Can U help Monday with consular affairs?” Jiloty replies, “Sure. Will look into it.” Ringel donated between $10,000 and $25,000 to the Clinton Foundation. In May, Band, working through Abedin, attempts to help Canadian concert promoter and Foundation donor Michael Cohl with the processing of a visa. Abedin passes the request to Monica Hanley, Clinton’s “confidential assistant.”

The emails show that the Clinton Foundation operative Band was involved in personnel matters at the Clinton State Department. In a May 2009 email exchange between Band and Abedin, a “career post” to East Timor for someone is discussed. Abedin explains to Band that Cheryl Mills, Hillary Clinton’s then-chief of staff, was working on the situation “under the radar.”

In August 2009, Band tells Abedin of someone who wants to be the ambassador to Barbados. Abedin replies: “I know, he’s emailed a few times. But she wants to give to someone else.”

The emails also show that Abedin received advice from her mother, Saleha Abedin (a controversial Islamist activist), on whom the Obama administration should appoint as the US Envoy to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation. She notes that she has obtained a recommendation from “Hassan” (NFI), and that she’d reached out to “Ishanoglu”. This is presumably Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, a Turkish academic and the former Secretary-General of the OIC. Ihsanoglu famously called on the West to enact anti-Islamic blasphemy laws.

On Monday, June 8, Clinton emails her aide Lona Valmoro and Abedin asking to attend a cabinet meeting: “I heard on the radio that there is a Cabinet mtg this am. Is there? Can I go? If not, who are you sending?” Valmoro answers: “It is actually not a full cabinet meeting today – those agencies that received recovery money were invited to attend/participate. We were welcome to send a representative though, not sure if we have anyone going.”

Other emails found in Abedin’s unsecure email account appear to show additional instances of the Clinton State Department’s lax approach to protecting national security.

On July 4, 2009, U.S. Ambassador to Kenya Jonathan “Scott” Gration sent Abedin an email that the State Department has classified in part and redacted because the information deals with “foreign governments” and “national defense or foreign policy.” Abedin forwarded Gration’s email to her personal, unsecure email account. In his email, Gration related his meeting with Libyan president Muammar Qadafi, saying: “I conveyed our appreciation for Libya’s role to improve relations between Chad and Sudan … Leader al-Qadafi promised to continue his nation’s close collaboration with the United States … and is eager to meet you and President Obama.…” Gration would later be fired for, among other things, using personal email accounts to send government information.

A document titled “HRC PRIVATE LINE BLOCK” gives the planned whereabouts for President Obama for Thursday, June 4, 2009: “Attend POTUS Foreign Policy Speech at Cairo University.” In another example of lax concern for security, Valmoro forwarded Clinton’s detailed daily schedule for July 15, 2009, to officers of the Clinton Foundation, including Doug Band and Justin Cooper. Again, on July 26 Valmoro forwarded Hillary’s detailed, sensitive daily schedule to numerous Clinton Foundation officials.

In other examples of lax concern for security, on June 11, there is a reference to testing the “Federal preparedness and response for an international terrorist threat to the United States. [Principal-Level Exercise] will be a scenario-driven discussion for Cabinet Secretaries, agency Directors and Administrators, senior officials in the Executive Office of the President, or their approved representatives.” A document in Abedin’s unsecure email account dated May 2009 is titled “The Secretary’s Phone Call with Chinese Foreign Minister Yang” is marked sensitive but unclassified and fully redacted, as is a document titled “The Secretary’s Phone Call with Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.”

“I’m not sure how much more evidence of pay for play, classified information mishandling, and influence peddling from Clinton’s email server one would need to show a serious criminal investigation is required,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-new-abedin-emails-reveal-additional-instances-clinton-donors-receiving-special-treatment-clinton-department-state/

[Pavlov]

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/14/exclusive-doubt-surfaces-about-suicide-claim-of-clinton-investigator/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialYes, Trump body count +1.

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump's Ties to Russian Gangsters Stretch Back More Than 30 Years

http://www.alternet.org/sites/default/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/screen_shot_2017-07-14_at_12.17.47_pm.png?itok=Nsyqh-fM

An explosive report details the president's business dealings with criminals and shady oligarchs.

Donald Trump used to brag about doing business with Russians. He told David Letterman back in 2013 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR_SoJpWzOA&feature=youtu.be&t=14m44s)“I’ve done a lot of business with the Russians, I know the Russians very well. They’re smart and they’re tough and they’re not looking so dumb right now.”

That was around the time of the Miss Universe Pageant in Moscow, when Trump was tight with billionaire oligarch Aras Agalarov, also known as Putin’s builder, and his pop star son Emin, both of whom were instrumental in the “Hillary dirt” meeting with Donald Jr. After years of trying fruitlessly to get a Trump project off the ground in the country, he had finally succeeded in making the contact who could make his dream come true.

According to Michael Isikoff at Yahoo (https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-details-emerge-moscow-real-estate-deal-led-trump-kremlin-alliance-190126219.html), it was a typical Trump arrangement in which Agalarov would build the tower and license Trump’s name for big dollars. Donald Jr. was put in charge and Ivanka even made a trip in 2014 to see the proposed property.

Unfortunately for the Trumps, the project got shelved when the Russian economy went south due to the sanctions imposed by the U.S. and the European Union following the Russian incursion into Crimea (something President Trump is now in a position to “fix”).

But asking if Trump has investments in Russia was never the right question.

The question to ask was whether any Russians had investments in Donald Trump.

Some years back Donald Trump Jr. told a real estate conference (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/02/15/donald-trumps-ties-russia-go-back-30-years/97949746/), “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

When writer James Dodson asked how the Trumps were able to finance their purchase of golf courses during the recession when credit had all dried up, Eric Trump told him (http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/eric-trump-russia-investment-golf-course),

“Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.” (Eric Trump has denied he ever said this.)

this blockbuster article (https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate) by Craig Unger in the New Republic confirms that Trump has been financed for years by Russian mobsters who have laundered money through his high-end real estate projects.

And when I say Russian mobsters I’m talking about the most powerful Russian mobsters in the world.

Unger also documents that

criminals and oligarchs lived in and ran illegal activities out of Trump properties, including Trump Tower in Manhattan, for more than 30 years.

They provided Trump with some of his most lucrative branding deals, the ones in which he was not required to make any personal investment.

The unending flow of Russian money, Unger writes, that “provided Trump with a crucial infusion of financing that helped rescue his empire from ruin, burnish his image, and launch his career in television and politics.”

It’s hard to believe that anyone with that kind of criminal exposure would think it was a good idea to run for president

Trump’s comments about his son’s nefarious meeting shows that

he believes everyone does whatever it takes to win and use any means at their disposal.

He’s so casual about it that it’s obvious that if at some point before he ran for president he was personally offered the help of the Russian FSB, he would have taken it without a second thought.

He simply assumes that everyone in the world is exactly like him.
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/donald-trumps-deep-ties-dirty-russian-money-stretch-back-more-30-yearsdonald (http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/donald-trumps-deep-ties-dirty-russian-money-stretch-back-more-30-yearsdonald)

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Trump’s Russian Laundromat

How to use Trump Tower and other luxury high-rises to clean dirty money, run an international crime syndicate, and propel a failed real estate developer into the White House.


https://images.newrepublic.com/7c1eb2ff662eefc1eccc68772bcc9f78512f5821.jpeg?w=10 00&q=65&dpi=1&fm=pjpg

https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

[boutons_deux]

btw, the Russian oligarchs, mafiya do the same the world over, getting money out of Russia into crooked tax havens, but esp buying up expensive real estate through untraceable shell companies, properties that often they never occupy (eg, London Mayfair neighborhood). When they sell the properties, the money received is "clean".

[boutons_deux]

Is Donald Trump’s casino empire linked to money laundering? Past financial crimes may be the president’s biggest problem

Campaign collusion could become an afterthought as investigators begin to focus on the Atlantic City money trail

Although the case began quietly last July as an effort to determine whether any Trump associates coordinated with Russian operatives to meddle in the presidential election campaign,

the investigative work now being done by the FBI also includes determining whether any financial crimes were committed by people close to the president . . .

people familiar with the matter said investigators on the case are more focused on Russian influence operations and possible financial crimes.

the investigation may be homing in on the story he’s been following for some time about Trump’s business and financial dealings over the decades with a whole cast of nefarious characters, including authentic mobster Felix Sater, who has ties to Russian oligarchs and gangsters and may be a U.S. government informant.

Over and over again in Trump’s past you find connections to criminals and shady characters who operate on the very edge of legality.

Marshall noted that for the past couple of decades, Trump has had a specific business model:

Cut off from capital from the big banks and most people interested in not losing their money, he had to do business with people with decidedly sketchier reputations.

Those people, often looking for places to park wealth in real estate, had to accept much higher levels of risk than people with clean reputations. That seemed to lead them to Trump.


Trump’s casino operations in Atlantic City and found that the Trump Taj Mahal casino broke money-laundering rules 106 times in the first year and half of operation and paid nearly half a million dollars in fines in just one settlement agreement in 1998. The network reported (http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/politics/trump-taj-mahal/index.html?sr=twCNN052217trump-taj-mahal-closed0111PMVODtopLink&linkId=37866730) as follows:


According to a dozen anti-money laundering experts, casinos often run into these problems. But

getting caught with 106 violations in the casino’s opening years is an indicator of a serious problem

, they said. The violations date back to a time when the

Taj Mahal was the preferred gambling spot for Russian mobsters living in Brooklyn,

according to federal investigators who tracked organized crime in New York City.

They also occurred at a time when the Taj Mahal casino was short on cash and on the verge of bankruptcy.


The parent of Trump Taj Mahal, one of Atlantic City, New Jersey’s struggling casinos, has settled U.S. government charges that

it violated federal laws designed to thwart money laundering,

court filings show.

Trump Taj Mahal agreed to the assessment of a $10 million civil penalty

by the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, according to a proposed consent order filed on Tuesday with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Wilmington, Delaware.


The violations in that case went back to 2003.

There’s a reason that the president refuses to be transparent about his financial dealings and we know it isn’t because he’s so modest.

He’s hiding something, and a special prosecutor with a mandate to look into financial crimes is probably going to find out what it is.

http://www.salon.com/2017/05/23/is-donald-trumps-casino-empire-linked-to-money-laundering-past-financial-crimes-may-be-the-presidents-biggest-problem/




The Paula Jones (billionaire Mellon Scaife financing) vs Clinton, SCOTUS said Pres has no immunity for crimes committed before taking office.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_v._Jones

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump Jr. got documents from Russian government at his 'waste of time' meeting (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/14/1680688/-Donald-Trump-Jr-got-documents-from-Russian-government-at-his-waste-of-time-meeting)


During the meeting, Akhmetshin said Veselnitskaya brought with her a plastic folder with printed-out documents that detailed what she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the Democratic National Committee. Veselnitskaya presented the contents of the documents to the Trump associates and suggested that making the information public could help the Trump campaign, he said.

The email that Donald Trump Jr. received (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/11/1679649/-Donald-Trump-Jr-releases-email-chain-showing-that-he-was-chasing-information-from-Russian-government)prompting him to set up the meeting promised …


... to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and could be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and it’s government’s support for Mr. Trump ...


According to Akhmetshin, that’s exactly what Veselnitskaya provided.

Donald Trump Jr. has lied about every aspect of the meeting over, and over, and over.

Even as more information has come to light, even with the release of the emails, he has still attempted to characterize the meeting as unimportant and a waste of time that “went nowhere.”

Those statements also appear to be blatant, indefensible lies.

And the information Veselnitskaya handed over, appears to be emails hacked from the DNC.


“This could be a good issue to expose how the DNC is accepting bad money,” Akhmetshin recalled her saying.

Trump Jr. has repeatedly stated that the meeting was brief, and noted that Kushner left the room mid-meeting. The implication was that the meeting was so pointless that (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/11/donald-trump-junior-russia-240430):

"It was literally just a wasted 20 minutes, which was a shame."


But Akhmetshin paints a picture that’s 180 degrees removed …

Trump Jr. asked the attorney if she had all the evidence to back up her claims, including whether she could demonstrate the flow of the money. But Veselnitskaya said the Trump campaign would need to research it more. After that, Trump Jr. lost interest, according to Akhmetshin.

“They couldn’t wait for the meeting to end,” he said.


It was after Veselnitskaya put the documents from the Russian government in their hands, that Kushner hustled out of the room.

Trump Jr. was only disappointed that it didn’t come with footnotes.

The brevity of the meeting, and Kushner’s abrupt departure, end up looking a lot more like excitement at getting this information out to other people than disinterest in what was offered.



Donald Trump Jr. was offered “sensitive” Russian government information on Hillary Clinton.
He accepted the meeting, saying he “loved it.”
Natalia Veselnitskaya arrived at the meeting with a folder of documents that appear to be early examples of the information hacked from the DNC.
Veselnitskaya presented this information to Trump, Manafort and Kushner.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/14/1680688/-Donald-Trump-Jr-got-documents-from-Russian-government-at-his-waste-of-time-meeting?detail=emaildkre

My guess is that the "translator" was FSB spy, and then there is one more person in the meeting, still unknown.

[spurraider21]

https://i.giphy.com/media/HufOeXwDOInlK/giphy.webp

[boutons_deux]

An Ex-KGB Spy Just Revealed A Chilling New Detail About Trump Jr.’s Secret Russian Meeting

Jack Barsky, a former undercover KGB agent, appeared on CNN to discuss Trump’s widening Russia scandal.

He made the stunning pronouncement that there was likely at least one active intelligence agent at Trump Jr.’s meeting.

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/15/ex-kgb-spy-just-revealed-chilling-new-detail-trump-jr-s-secret-russian-meeting/

[DarrinS]

The Dems didn't bungle their collusion

[Pavlov]

The Dems didn't bungle their collusionDarrin go full Hannity.

Never go full Hannity.

[TSA]

The Dems didn't bungle their collusion

It's falling apart already. Browder's testimony next week will get the ball rolling.

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/complaint-firm-behind-dossier-former-russian-intel-officer-joined-lobbying-effort#_ftnref14

[Pavlov]

It's falling apart already. Browder's testimony next week will get the ball rolling.

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/complaint-firm-behind-dossier-former-russian-intel-officer-joined-lobbying-effort#_ftnref14How fall apart?

Explain.

[Reck]

It's falling apart already. Browder's testimony next week will get the ball rolling.

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/complaint-firm-behind-dossier-former-russian-intel-officer-joined-lobbying-effort#_ftnref14

You like to laugh at Djohns predictions that people are going down all the time but you're no better.

Your record is abysmal.

:lol Hillary will be indicted soon :cry
:lol John Podesta will be outed as a pedo and will go to jail :cry
:lol Obama was exposed for wiretapping Trump, shit will hit the fan soon :cry
:lol Comey lied, broke the law, will go to jail :cry
:lol Susan Rice unmasked Trump's people, she's done :cry
:lol the DNC is falling apart, watch my nigga testify for the last nail in the coffin :cry

:lmao

[Pavlov]

You like to laugh at Djohns predictions that people are going down all the time but you're no better.

Your record is abysmal.

:lol Hillary will be indicted soon :cry
:lol John Podesta will be outed as a pedo and will go to jail :cry
:lol Obama was exposed for wiretapping Trump, shit will hit the fan soon :cry
:lol Comey lied, broke the law, will go to jail :cry
:lol Susan Rice unmasked Trump's people, she's done :cry
:lol the DNC is falling apart, watch my nigga testify for the last nail in the coffin :cry

:lmaoWow, when put all together like that it impressive.

[Pavlov]

Reck ran him off quick tonight.

[TSA]

You like to laugh at Djohns predictions that people are going down all the time but you're no better.

Your record is abysmal.

:lol Hillary will be indicted soon :cry
:lol John Podesta will be outed as a pedo and will go to jail :cry
:lol Obama was exposed for wiretapping Trump, shit will hit the fan soon :cry
:lol Comey lied, broke the law, will go to jail :cry
:lol Susan Rice unmasked Trump's people, she's done :cry
:lol the DNC is falling apart, watch my nigga testify for the last nail in the coffin :cry

:lmao

I laugh at djohn because he makes predictions. I challenge you to find a link of me claiming the above people will be be going to jail.

[TSA]

It's falling apart already. Browder's testimony next week will get the ball rolling.

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/complaint-firm-behind-dossier-former-russian-intel-officer-joined-lobbying-effort#_ftnref14

Christopher Steele in hot water as well.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3892131/Trump-Dossier-Suit.pdf

[Reck]

I laugh at djohn because he makes predictions. I challenge you to find a link of me claiming the above people will be be going to jail.

You're acting as if I'm talking out of my ass. Everyone who posts here knows your history of claims that felt through faster than you could type it.

[TSA]

I laugh at djohn because he makes predictions. I challenge you to find a link of me claiming the above people will be be going to jail.

And don't try and pull the same bullshit you did when you welched on the Hillary bet, "should" and "will" are not the same.

[Pavlov]

It's falling apart already. Browder's testimony next week will get the ball rolling.

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/complaint-firm-behind-dossier-former-russian-intel-officer-joined-lobbying-effort#_ftnref14Tell us what you think happen here.

[TSA]

You're acting as if I'm talking out of my ass. Everyone who posts here knows your history of claims that felt through faster than you could type it.

You are talking out of your ass.

[Pavlov]

It's falling apart already.So prediction is all fall apart.

Need explain for once.

[Reck]

You are talking out of your ass.

In about a week when this guy testifies and absolutely nothing happens and your claim falls through, this post will show you up. As always.

[Pavlov]

If DarrinS-Hannity-TSA-Grassley had workable Fusion Chalupa conspiracy theory, would be post already.

[Thread]

You are talking out of your ass.

He likes the view from there.

[TSA]

In about a week when this guy testifies and absolutely nothing happens and your claim falls through, this post will show you up. As always.


We'll revisit my post in a week. :tu

That will give you plenty of time to back up your claims below and provide a link for each one.


You like to laugh at Djohns predictions that people are going down all the time but you're no better.

Your record is abysmal.

:lol Hillary will be indicted soon :cry
:lol John Podesta will be outed as a pedo and will go to jail :cry
:lol Obama was exposed for wiretapping Trump, shit will hit the fan soon :cry
:lol Comey lied, broke the law, will go to jail :cry
:lol Susan Rice unmasked Trump's people, she's done :cry
:lol the DNC is falling apart, watch my nigga testify for the last nail in the coffin :cry

:lmao

Best of luck!

[Thread]

You like to laugh at Djohns predictions that people are going down all the time but you're no better.

Your record is abysmal.

:lol Hillary will be indicted soon :cry
:lol John Podesta will be outed as a pedo and will go to jail :cry
:lol Obama was exposed for wiretapping Trump, shit will hit the fan soon :cry
:lol Comey lied, broke the law, will go to jail :cry
:lol Susan Rice unmasked Trump's people, she's done :cry
:lol the DNC is falling apart, watch my nigga testify for the last nail in the coffin :cry

:lmao

I'll admit though:::when he puts those predictions down like that I get happy real quick. Bless his heart. The knot releases in my stomach, I'm happy go lucky then. Then slowly but surely I watch some CNN, the knot tightens, I get uptight and I'm near inconsolable.

TSA

[Pavlov]

We'll revisit my post in a week. :tu

That will give you plenty of time to back up your claims below and provide a link for each one. Maybe someone make theory you can parrot by then.

[DarrinS]

If DarrinS-Hannity-TSA-Grassley had workable Fusion Chalupa conspiracy theory, would be post already.

Wait for it. Sock is impatient.

[Pavlov]

Wait for it. Sock is impatient.Had plenty time. Why no theory?

[spurraider21]

Maybe someone make theory you can parrot by then.
:lol

[Reck]

Maybe someone make theory you can parrot by then.

:lmao

TSA very predictable.

[Pavlov]

I mean TSA push Clinton eat babies theory here before -- now can't produce any Chalupa Fusion story at all.

[TSA]

:lmao

TSA very predictable.

Here's another rock solid TSA prediction.

You will either

a. not attempt to back your claims
b. attempt to back your claims and try and argue "should" = "will"

[TSA]

Maybe someone make theory you can parrot by then.

Maybe you'll finish your timeline by then.

[Pavlov]

Maybe you'll finish your timeline by then.Finished and perfect. You had chance to edit and ran away.

You not even start theory.

And never will unless someone do for you.

This my rock solid prediction.

Take to bank.

[Pavlov]

Remember TSA:

I explain your theory. If you don't like you can explain yourself.

Have posted these before and you no dispute.


SO SIMPLE!

DNC hire Russian billionaire to hire Russian lawyer to hire Fusion GPS to hire same Russian lawyer to hire Russian contacts to convince Trump's friends to catfish Trump Junior and Kushner and Manafort into meeting with same Russian lawyer and other people they forget mention but also must be hire by DNC because Chalupa could not meet with Ukraine ambassador.

SIMPLE!Why they no say anything before election after all hiring and hard work?

ALSO SIMPLE!

TSA theory:

DNC: "Hey everyone! We have ironclad evidence of Trump's campaign manager, son and son-in-law colluding with Russians to influence the election. We also had the Ukrainian ambassador refuse to meet with Chalupa to give us infor--- OMG why did I say anything about Ukraine? WHY????? OH SHIT. nm kthxbye"

TSA no say any of this wrong, so must be his theory.

Prediction: TSA change subject.

[TSA]

Finished and perfect. You had chance to edit and ran away.

You not even start theory.

And never will unless someone do for you.

This my rock solid prediction.

Take to bank.

It's not finished, and it's your timeline to correct.

Finish your timeline and I'll provide you my working theory. Any excuses from you now are deflections.

[Pavlov]

It's not finished, and it's your timeline to correct.

Finish your timeline and I'll provide you my working theory. Any excuses from you now are deflections.My prediction came true immediately.:lobt2:

[TSA]

My prediction came true immediately.:lobt2:

Why do you refuse to correct your timeline?

[Pavlov]

Why do you refuse to correct your timeline?It perfect.

Can't correct perfect.

[spurraider21]

Person A: here is my theory

Person B: your theory is wrong, you have to fix it

Person A: how is it wrong?

Person B: fix it and then i'll tell you

[Reck]

Here's another rock solid TSA prediction.

You will either

a. not attempt to back your claims
b. attempt to back your claims and try and argue "should" = "will"

Like the claim I proved yesterday you like to ask and repeat the same questions ad nauseam? You're not very original.

[Pavlov]

Best thing now everyone can ask TSA what his theory be and he will say "But his tim:crylin:cry!"

[TSA]

Person A: here is my theory

Person B: your theory is wrong, you have to fix it

Person A: how is it wrong?

Person B: fix it and then i'll tell you

Is a timeline a theory yes or no?

[TSA]

Like the claim I proved yesterday you like to ask and repeat the same questions ad nauseam? You're not very original.

The only thing you proved yesterday was you didn't know the definition of the word repeat.

Are choosing option a?

[Reck]

Best thing now everyone can ask TSA what his theory be and he will say "But his tim:crylin:cry!"

Kind of like this..


timeline off



please update timeline


Fix your timeline


Fix timeline.


Fix timeline.

Then when you prove your point to his satisfaction he tries to deflect with but..but I only did that to counter his point. :cry

You broke him yesterday and at the same time he proved my point. :lol :tu

[TSA]

Best thing now everyone can ask TSA what his theory be and he will say "But his tim:crylin:cry!"

I've offered to give you my theory once you correct and finish your timeline. Why are you still refusing?

[TSA]

Kind of like this..









Then when you prove your point to his satisfaction he tries to deflect with but..but I only did that to counter his point. :cry

You broke him yesterday and at the same time he proved my point. :lol :tu

Again, this is how I deal with Chumpdumper.

And once again you've made it clear you won't be backing your claims up. I don't blame you, it didn't work out well the last time for you. You and I both know you would only find posts of me saying "should be" and not "will be"

[Reck]

:cry :cryAgain, this is how I deal with Chumpdumper. :cry :cry

A few days ago you didn't know who he was and you still did it. Take your shitty excuse and sell it to someone else, faggot.

Point proven.

[TSA]

A few days ago you didn't know who he was and you still did it. Take your shitty excuse and sell it to someone else, faggot.

Point proven.

Point proven would be you actually showing me doing that before I knew it was Chumpdumper. You won't do that though because it didn't happen. You also won't back your other claims, as predicted. :lol

[spurraider21]

Is a timeline a theory yes or no?
not in the scientific sense. but in the colloquial sense, could be

[Reck]

You and I both know you would only find posts of me saying "should be" and not "will be"

Except you had such a hard on for Hillary going to jail that you actually did. You literally spent your days pedaling pending indictments are coming! indictements are coming every single day on here. That is undeniable. I'm not going to waste my time proving a positive.

:lol Game over
:lol Boom

[TSA]

not in the scientific sense. but in the colloquial sense, could be

In the trying to be witty sense it wasn't a theory either, it was simply Chumpdumper's timeline.

[TSA]

Except you had such a hard on for Hillary going to jail that you actually did. You literally spent your days pedaling pending indictments are coming! indictements are coming every single day on here. That is undeniable. I'm not going to waste my time proving a positive.

:lol Game over
:lol Boom


Wow didn't take you long to back away from all your other claims :lol

You say its undeniable, I'm denying it, and you cower when asked to prove it :lol

If I claimed Hillary was going to be indicted every single day that would be really easy to find.
Don't be a coward, back your claim up. I don't even care about the others you pussed out on.

[TSA]

Reck you have until Browder's testimony to redeem yourself.

[Reck]

Wow didn't take you long to back away from all your other claims :lol

You say its undeniable, I'm denying it, and you cower when asked to prove it :lol

If I claimed Hillary was going to be indicted every single day that would be really easy to find.
Don't be a coward, back your claim up. I don't even care about the others you pussed out on.

I already did back my claim up. First you ask me to prove you dont ask the same questions. I did.

Then your sorry excuse was that you only did it because chump. :cry

You're now moving the goalpost in asking me to prove something else. :lol

When and if I do you'll just have another sorry excuse. You're a pussy that way.

[TSA]

I already did back my claim up. First you ask me to prove you dont ask the same questions. I did.

Then your sorry excuse was that you only did it because chump.

You're now moving the goalpost in asking me to prove something else.

When and if I do you'll just have another sorry excuse. You're a pussy that way.

It's times like this where I can't figure out if you have a learning disability or are just an amazing troll :lol

I asked to back up the claims you just made tonight. You started making excuses so I asked you to just back the one Hillary claim.

Even if you do back up this claim you still might be beyond redeemable
:lol retard


You like to laugh at Djohns predictions that people are going down all the time but you're no better.

Your record is abysmal.

:lol Hillary will be indicted soon :cry
:lol John Podesta will be outed as a pedo and will go to jail :cry
:lol Obama was exposed for wiretapping Trump, shit will hit the fan soon :cry
:lol Comey lied, broke the law, will go to jail :cry
:lol Susan Rice unmasked Trump's people, she's done :cry
:lol the DNC is falling apart, watch my nigga testify for the last nail in the coffin :cry

:lmao

FIND A QUOTE OF ME SAYING HILLARY WILL BE INDICTED

[Pavlov]

I've offered to give you my theory once you correct and finish your timeline. Why are you still refusing?My timeline correct and perfect.

My description of your theory also correct and perfect.

You pass on opportunity to edit either, so both stand perfect and unaltered.

You are free to edit either or let stand forever in your eternal submission to me.

Choice yours.

[spurraider21]

In the trying to be witty sense it wasn't a theory either, it was simply Chumpdumper's timeline.
here, maybe this makes you feel better

Person A: this is my timeline

Person B: your timeline is wrong

Person A: how?

Person B: fix it and then i'll tell you

[Reck]

For the fun of it, I did a quick search and went into the first results and what a surprise...


It doesn't "appear she did", she did. And of course she knew, she signed an NDA specifically stating she knew this. I've already posted the NDA, and already posted the the law stating gross negligence is no excuse.

If she is not indicted our justice system is a complete farce.

For context:


No, if she doesn't get indicted it was because there wasn't enough evidence to throw her in jail for it.

The people that are investigating this have even come out and say there is barely anything there that could stick as far as criminal charges go. You cant throw someone in jail without 100%, without a shadow of proof. Just because you dont like her doesn't mean she gets the shitty end of the stick. Due process is due process.

Even if she did, which I know you are of that thinking, if the FBI cant prove it, its too bad for them. She would have out smarted them.


ANY evidence is ENOUGH evidence. You are having trouble grasping this.


Anyone catch the removed HuffPo article by Frank Hugenard saying FBI would recommend indictment?

And a bonus one for the lulz.


Wake me up when the head of the FBI calls Trump a liar.

:lmao

You can just read the whole thing on that particular thread where TSA keeps pedaling links hoping and talking about the impeding indictments here:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256863&page=14

So there you go guy. Proof that you pedaled/wanted/talked about her getting indicted.

[TSA]

here, maybe this makes you feel better

Person A: this is my timeline

Person B: your timeline is wrong

Person A: how?

Person B: fix it and then i'll tell you

:lol no you still don't have it right. Here is the correct version.


Person A: this is my timeline

Person B: your timeline is wrong

Person A: how?

Person B: fix it by adding these two items

[Pavlov]

:lol no you still don't have it right. Here is the correct version.


Person A: this is my timeline

Person B: your timeline is wrong

Person A: how?

Person B: fix it by adding these two itemsShow me where put items.

[TSA]

For the fun of it, I did a quick search and went into the first results and what a surprise...



For context:







And a bonus one for the lulz.



:lmao

You can just read the whole thing on that particular thread where TSA keeps pedaling links hoping and talking about the impeding indictments here:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256863&page=14

So there you go guy. Proof that you pedaled/wanted/talked about her getting indicted.
:lol not going to waste time trying to prove a positive
:lol wastes time trying to prove a positive
:lol proves option b


Your record is abysmal.

:lol Hillary will be indicted soon :cry



Except you had such a hard on for Hillary going to jail that you actually did. You literally spent your days pedaling pending indictments are coming! indictements are coming every single day on here. That is undeniable. I'm not going to waste my time proving a positive.



b. attempt to back your claims and try and argue "should" = "will"

I called it from the start.

You claimed I said Hillary would be indicted, the quotes you pulled said I thought she should be indicted. You just shit on yourself in the same manner as the "on Hillary"/"from Hillary" that forced you to welch :lmao

Thank you for shitting on yourself Reck. Sleep it off and regroup tomorrow :rollin

[Chris]

:lol

[Reck]

Cue the deflection..



You're now moving the goalpost in asking me to prove something else. :lol

When and if I do you'll just have another sorry excuse. You're a pussy that way.

AND...BAM!

Deflection achieved.


:lol not going to waste time trying to prove a positive
:lol wastes time trying to prove a positive
:lol proves option b









I called it from the start.

You claimed I said Hillary would be indicted, the quotes you pulled said I thought she should be indicted. You just shit on yourself in the same manner as the "on Hillary"/"from Hillary" that forced you to welch :lmao

Thank you for shitting on yourself Reck. Sleep it off and regroup tomorrow :rollin


:lol Only took me 2 minutes to search and quote these.
:lol asks me to prove it, I do, he blames me for proving it.
:cry If she's not indicted this world is a lie!

[Reck]

She'll be indicted after receiving the nomination and then the Democrats will throw out a Biden/Warren ticket giving Obama the third term he's always wanted.

:lmao

Leave, brah or I'll just keep going in raw.

[spurraider21]

I think she'll be indicted in March on the server issue and indicted again over the summer on her foundation issue.


They've already got enough, it will be up to Lynch. I almost hope Lynch refuses to indict, the shitstorm of leaks that would come out from the FBI would be amazing.


She'll be indicted after receiving the nomination and then the Democrats will throw out a Biden/Warren ticket giving Obama the third term he's always wanted.


:lol ITT lobs clinging to the hope of no indictment. Literally their only chance.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

[spurraider21]

:lol the irony of hoping for FBI leaks

[Reck]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

:lol Holy shit.

What an assist.
TSA (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640) time to perma ban.

[Pavlov]

But my timeline.

[TSA]

:lmao

Leave, brah or I'll just keep going in raw.hmmm...a prediction in jest based on the context of a HuffPo article. I'm not sure I can give you that one. Besides....


You literally spent your days pedaling pending indictments are coming! indictements are coming every single day on here.

Your going to need more than that as it's no where close to claim of indictments are coming every single day. Keep digging Reck, best of luck!

[TSA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

Third post is what Reck found, already addressed. Your other attempts failed as those aren't claims of an indictment coming. Almost a complete waste of your time.

[TSA]

:lol Holy shit.

What an assist.
TSA (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640) time to perma ban.

Besides the one you quoted none of those are claims of indictments coming.

:lol what an assist
:lol what a retard

perma ban? :lol for what?

[TSA]

But my timeline.

Fix it.

[TSA]

Reck I have confidence you can find much more as I was claiming indictments daily. I'll check back in tomorrow.
Do not let me down.

[Pavlov]

Fix it. I think timeline perfect. Show me where put items.

[spurraider21]

Third post is what Reck found, already addressed. Your other attempts failed as those aren't claims of an indictment coming. Almost a complete waste of your time.


I think she'll be indicted in March on the server issue and indicted again over the summer on her foundation issue.

no?

[Reck]

hmmm...a prediction in jest based on the context of a HuffPo article. I'm not sure I can give you that one. Besides....



Your going to need more than that as it's no where close to claim of indictments are coming every single day. Keep digging Reck, best of luck!

http://i.imgur.com/9TK7zZv.gif

Are you literally retarded?

It doesn't get more personal than saying I think and she will.

They're your own stipulations to boot.


You and I both know you would only find posts of me saying "should be" and not "will be"




If I claimed Hillary was going to be indicted




You claimed I said Hillary would be indicted,

Moron, can you even tell me what the past tense of will, is?

Stop embarassing yourself.

[TSA]

no?

"I think" is not a definitive statement.

[Pavlov]

"I think" is not a definitive statement.It definitive about what you think.

[Reck]

"I think" is not a definitive statement.

You literally said she would be indicted.


She'll be indicted after receiving the nomination and then the Democrats will throw out a Biden/Warren ticket giving Obama the third term he's always wanted.



No speaky de english?

[spurraider21]

"I think" is not a definitive statement.
what? :lol... any time somebody claims something will happen, that means they think it will happen.

that is a pretty awful attempt at spin, but i cant really blame you since you've backed yourself into a corner

[TSA]

http://i.imgur.com/9TK7zZv.gif

Are you literally retarded?

It doesn't get more personal than saying I think and she will.

They're your own stipulations to boot.







Moron, can you even tell me what the past tense of will, is?

Stop embarassing yourself.

Im not trying to play gotcha because of the word tense you moron :lol


Hillary will be indicted
I think Hillary will be indicted

[TSA]

You literally said she would be indicted.



No speaky de english?

Comment was made in jest, the Obama third term line should have been a dead giveaway.

[Pavlov]

Hillary will be indictedMeans you think Hillary will be indicted.

I think Hillary will be indictedMeans you think Hillary will be indicted.

[Chris]

Libs ITT

https://media.giphy.com/media/mmYy42RNrgA0w/giphy.gif

[Reck]

Im not trying to play gotcha because of the word tense you moron :lol


Hillary will be indicted
I think Hillary will be indicted

Not only did you state she was going to get indicted. (Blatant admission) But you also managed to make yourself look pretty basic with your ABCs.

Fighting the actual facts is futile.

[TSA]

what? :lol... any time somebody claims something will happen, that means they think it will happen.

that is a pretty awful attempt at spin, but i cant really blame you since you've backed yourself into a corner

Not in the context of Reck claiming I did the same as djohn.

djohn claims "______" will be indicted as a fact.

Me saying I think "______" will be indicted isn't even close to the same.

[Pavlov]

Libs ITT

https://media.giphy.com/media/mmYy42RNrgA0w/giphy.gifOK, explain what each poster talking about, Chris.

[Reck]

Comment was made in jest, the Obama third term line should have been a dead giveaway.

There goes the stupid, nonsensical deflections I talked about.

You didn't just made one comment in one thread. They're spread into different threads.

[Pavlov]

djohn claims "______" will be indicted as a fact
Means djohn thinks "______" will be indicted.

Me saying I think "______" will be indicted
Means you think "______" will be indicted.

[Reck]

Not in the context of Reck claiming I did the same as djohn.

djohn claims "______" will be indicted as a fact.

Me saying (Also said) she'll be "______" indicted isn't even close to the same.

fify

[TSA]

There goes the stupid, nonsensical deflections I talked about.

You didn't just made one comment in one thread. They're spread into different threads.

:lol nonsensical

It's not my fault you have trouble with nuance

[Chris]

OK, explain what each poster talking about, Chris.

When you come to terms with your MPD we can have a discussion. Until then you remain on the list.

[spurraider21]

Not in the context of Reck claiming I did the same as djohn.

djohn claims "______" will be indicted as a fact.

Me saying I think "______" will be indicted isn't even close to the same.
it's actually exactly the same. djohn is just telling us what he thinks

the only way it's not the same is if you think djohn is a higher power and what he says, is

[Pavlov]

When you come to terms with your MPD we can have a discussion. Until then you remain on the list.It OK to just say you have no idea.

[TSA]

Am I really having to explain the difference between a statement of fact and an opinion? :rollin

[TSA]

it's actually exactly the same. djohn is just telling us what he thinks

the only way it's not the same is if you think djohn is a higher power and what he says, is

Incorrect. djohn is telling us what he knows.

[Reck]

:lol nonsensical

It's not my fault you have trouble with nuance

It's pretty clear you dont like to be wrong. But you are.

These are the facts. Now deal with it.

Discussing this further would be a waste of time. You can only lead a horse to water like they say.

[Pavlov]

See, he's saying what he thinks will happen.

I'm saying what I think will happen.

No "s" -- totally different!

[TSA]

It's pretty clear you dont like to be wrong. But you are.

These are the facts. Now deal with it.

Discussing this further would be a waste of time. You can only lead a horse to water like they say.

I already told you I might give you that one as nuance is sometimes tough online. But your claim was that I was saying Hillary would be indicted every single day. You still have work to do to back your claim. One single post isn't going to cut it.

[Kim Jong-il]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW_Rduet230

[Reck]

I already told you I might give you that one as nuance is sometimes tough online. But your claim was that I was saying Hillary would be indicted every single day. You still have work to do to back your claim. One single post isn't going to cut it.

Everything that needed to be proven--was.

You've gone through like 5 different phases of excuses and goalpost moving.

You have literally gone from "find me a post where I said this" to "that's not what I said" to "but djohn said this" to "nuance is hard to get online" and finally to I only said it a handful of time just not every day.

And it wasn't a single post. lol we're not all monkeys with limited forethought here so you're not fooling anyone.

[TSA]

Everything that needed to be proven--was.

You've gone through like 5 different phases of excuses and goalpost moving.

You have literally gone from "find me a post where I said this" to "that's not what I said" to "but djohn said this" to "nuance is hard to get online" and finally to I only said it a handful of time just not every day.

And it wasn't a single post. lol we're not all monkeys with limited forethought here so you're not fooling anyone.



You claimed I said Hillary would be indicted every single day, you found 1 post. Are you seriously patting yourself on the back for that? :lol

And the only reason I told you to back your Hillary claim was because you went silent when I asked you to back your other 5 claims.

You like to laugh at Djohns predictions that people are going down all the time but you're no better.

Your record is abysmal.

:lol Hillary will be indicted soon :cry
:lol John Podesta will be outed as a pedo and will go to jail :cry
:lol Obama was exposed for wiretapping Trump, shit will hit the fan soon :cry
:lol Comey lied, broke the law, will go to jail :cry
:lol Susan Rice unmasked Trump's people, she's done :cry
:lol the DNC is falling apart, watch my nigga testify for the last nail in the coffin :cry

:lmao


I challenge you to find a link of me claiming the above people will be be going to jail.


Everything that needed to be proven--was. :lol no

If you thought I'd let you declare victory after finding 1 post instead of the many you claimed there were AND thought I'd let you off the hook for the other 5 claims you failed to back, it appears monkeys do have more forethought than you.

:bobo congrats on finding the 1 post though :lobt2:

[Reck]

You claimed I said Hillary would be indicted every single day, you found 1 post. Are you seriously patting yourself on the back for that? :lol

And the only reason I told you to back your Hillary claim was because you went silent when I asked you to back your other 5 claims.




:lol no

If you thought I'd let you declare victory after finding 1 post instead of the many you claimed there were AND thought I'd let you off the hook for the other 5 claims you failed to back, it appears monkeys do have more forethought than you.

:bobo congrats on finding the 1 post though :lobt2:

Delusional faggot. :lmao

How can someone be in so much denial? You defy logic with your stupidity.

:lol literally being the only one who thinks is right.
:lol only found one post :cry

[Adam Lambert]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW_Rduet230

:lmao

[TSA]

Delusional faggot. :lmao

How can someone be in so much denial? You defy logic with your stupidity.

:lol literally being the only one who thinks is right.
:lol only found one post :cry

You literally found 1 post. Claiming otherwise defies logic.

You also made 5 other wild claims that you are now pretending didn't happen. That is called denial.

[Reck]

You literally found 1 post. Claiming otherwise defies logic.

You also made 5 other wild claims that you are now pretending didn't happen. That is called denial.

Gets called out by multiple posters on it, still denies it. :lol

Literally too stupid to realized he's not only wrong but also fucked up too. :lol

[Thread]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW_Rduet230

When the others (blacks) did it---it was called sampling and it's jake.
When Ice (white) did it---it's called plagiarism & he was threatened with death.

[Adam Lambert]

When the others (blacks) did it---it was called sampling and it's jake.
When Ice (white) did it---it's called plagiarism & he was threatened with death.

:lmao
semen shielding for vanilla ice now.

[Thread]

:lmao
semen shielding for vanilla ice now.

It's the truth. The blacks climbed on his back so he could advance their earning power. But, couldn't do it openly, so, instead they attacked him and threatened him.

When whites resist blacks from a path unknown to blacks all hell breaks loose and we have to be sent to re education camps. When blacks do it to whites, Media will have nothing to do with it.

[boutons_deux]

an ex-Jew Christian shitbag

Trump Lawyer Blames Secret Service For Not Preemptively Stopping Jr.’s Meeting

Jay Sekulow, a member of President Donald Trump’s legal team, on Sunday aired a new defense for Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with a Russian lawyer who promised him damaging information on Hillary Clinton:

The Secret Service should not have “allowed these people in” to meet with Trump’s eldest son.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-lawyer-jay-sekulow-blames-secret-service?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

[boutons_deux]

Trump lawyer stuns Tapper with absurd Russia defense: No time for ethical or moral considerations during a campaign

“The legality: was the meeting and what took place legal or not?

Almost every legal expert says it’s not illegal. :lol

Then you’re trying to put a moral and ethical aspect to it and it’s easy to do that in 20/20 hindsight but not when you’re in the middle of a campaign.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/trump-lawyer-stuns-tapper-with-absurd-russia-defense-no-time-for-ethical-or-moral-considerations-during-a-campaign/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Adam Lambert]

It's the truth. The blacks climbed on his back so he could advance their earning power. But, couldn't do it openly, so, instead they attacked him and threatened him.

When whites resist blacks from a path unknown to blacks all hell breaks loose and we have to be sent to re education camps. When blacks do it to whites, Media will have nothing to do with it.

youre making shit up. before vanilla ice was anyone it had become standard for rappers to credit the artists they sampled. everyone from run dmc to nwa to mc hammer did it.

ice didnt and then was retarded enough to lie about it when asked. just like trump does.

[Pavlov]

Now Natalia Veselnitskaya admit regular contact with Mother Russia Prosecutor General.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/342109-russian-lawyer-who-met-with-trump-jr-was-in-touch-with-top-russian

Baby farms #1 bigly priority for Putin.

[Thread]

youre making shit up. before vanilla ice was anyone it had become standard for rappers to credit the artists they sampled. everyone from run dmc to nwa to mc hammer did it.

ice didnt and then was retarded enough to lie about it when asked. just like trump does.

There was no such thing as (sampling) till blacks made it up to get over on plagiarizing works. Everybody (whites) went along with it because they didn't want to have to go to the re education camps. So, when Ice came along with a #1 hit blacks & whites alike took off after him with a vengeance.

[Adam Lambert]

:rolleyes
anyway, back to the daily "how much are the trumps lying about russia" updates...

[TSA]

Gets called out by multiple posters on it, still denies it. :lol

Literally too stupid to realized he's not only wrong but also fucked up too. :lol

Notice how you don't even mention your other 5 claims you failed to prove. What you are doing now is a classic example of deflection. No amount of smilies will hide that.

And I'm not wrong. You found 1 post when your claim was it happened every single day. Every single day implies it happening more than once.


Except you had such a hard on for Hillary going to jail that you actually did. You literally spent your days pedaling pending indictments are coming! indictements are coming every single day on here.

You were so busy last night high giving spurraider you forgot what your claim actually was. All said, I'm right, and you're wrong until proven otherwise.

[Pavlov]

There was no such thing as (sampling) till blacks made it up to get over on plagiarizing works. Everybody (whites) went along with it because they didn't want to have to go to the re education camps. So, when Ice came along with a #1 hit blacks & whites alike took off after him with a vengeance.https://i1.wp.com/www.sysgen.com.ph/articles/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/dogconfused.gif

[boutons_deux]

Intel Community to Trump: "Now we go nuclear. He will die in jail." (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/15/1634012/-Under-the-Drumpfster-Fire-of-Flynn-and-Russian-Intel-is-most-likely-much-more-fire)

WASHINGTON — Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of

Donald J. Trump (http://www.nytimes.com/topic/person/donald-trump?inline=nyt-per)’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election,

according to four current and former American officials.

American law enforcement and intelligence agencies intercepted the communications around the same time they were discovering evidence that Russia (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/russiaandtheformersovietunion/index.html?inline=nyt-geo) was trying to disrupt the presidential election by hacking into the Democratic National Committee, three of the officials said.

The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

On Wednesday, former NSA intelligence analyst John Schindler provided some insight into the reaction of national security officials.

“Now we go nuclear,” he wrote on Twitter (https://twitter.com/20committee/status/831872441597194241). “[Intelligence community] war going to new levels. Just got an [email from] senior [intelligence community] friend, it began: ‘He will die in jail.'”

“US intelligence is not the problem here,” Schindler added in another tweet (https://twitter.com/20committee/status/831871040762630146).

“The President’s collusion with Russian intelligence is. Many details, but the essence is simple.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/15/1634012/-Under-the-Drumpfster-Fire-of-Flynn-and-Russian-Intel-is-most-likely-much-more-fire

[Thread]

https://i1.wp.com/www.sysgen.com.ph/articles/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/dogconfused.gif


They send you to class where they teach you to get your mind right. & if you don't go you don't get that juicy check every 2 weeks.

[Pavlov]

They send you to class where they teach you to get your mind right. & if you don't go you don't get that juicy check every 2 weeks.https://media.giphy.com/media/t1vnWdsnyIGZO/giphy.gif

[Reck]

Notice how you don't even mention your other 5 claims you failed to prove. What you are doing now is a classic example of deflection. No amount of smilies will hide that.

And I'm not wrong. You found 1 post when your claim was it happened every single day. Every single day implies it happening more than once.



You were so busy last night high giving spurraider you forgot what your claim actually was. All said, I'm right, and you're wrong until proven otherwise.

:cry show me where I said she'll be indicted
:lol she'll be indicted

Also for the ultimate lulz:


I don't even care about the others you pussed out on.

:cry I dont care about your other claims...except now that I have been exposed I need to desperately try to not look like a complete idiot.

And as spurraider21 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) showed (Which btw dont think I wouldn't have found anyways because your idiocy is ST history and easy to find) with his many other examples..from different threads..happened more than once.

I'm done with your exposed faggot ass. :lol not my intellectual equal.

:lol busy last night high giving :lol
:lol no ingles

[spurraider21]

doesnt mean he railed on about it on a daily basis, tho. you overreached

[Pavlov]

Notice how you don't even mention your other 5 claims you failed to prove. What you are doing now is a classic example of deflection. No amount of smilies will hide that.

And I'm not wrong. You found 1 post when your claim was it happened every single day. Every single day implies it happening more than once.



You were so busy last night high giving spurraider you forgot what your claim actually was. All said, I'm right, and you're wrong until proven otherwise.Operation Stall Until Further Orders From Grassley in full swing.

[Reck]

doesnt mean he railed on about it on a daily basis, tho. you overreached

Hyperbole. It's used all the time.

Regardless, point was made and he failed. No?

[boutons_deux]

As was mentioned last year, Trash was stupid to call the intel community "nazis", to pick a fight with IC.

If the crimes are there, now the IC will find them.

[Kim Jong-il]

When the others (blacks) did it---it was called sampling and it's jake.
When Ice (white) did it---it's called plagiarism & he was threatened with death.
No, you fucking ignorant old man, he got in trouble for not crediting Queen/Bowie for the sample, and not paying royalties for it, and then coming up with this absurd reasoning for why he didn't have to. Black artists who sampled knew what they were doing and paid the dues accordingly.

Typical of America though - black people following the rules, then an entitled white asshole comes around and says "Nah, I don't have to play by the rules, I'm special"

[Kim Jong-il]

There was no such thing as (sampling) till blacks made it up to get over on plagiarizing works. Everybody (whites) went along with it because they didn't want to have to go to the re education camps. So, when Ice came along with a #1 hit blacks & whites alike took off after him with a vengeance.
The first sampling in music was done by white men. You're an ignorant old fool who is going to die soon.

[Pavlov]

886605770216935424

[TSA]

Except you had such a hard on for Hillary going to jail that you actually did. You literally spent your days pedaling pending indictments are coming! indictements are coming every single day on here.


Hyperbole. It's used all the time.

Regardless, point was made and he failed. No?

And the backtracking begins :rollin

Your point was I constantly said she'd be indicted, I didn't. As of now its just you who's failed.

:lol running to spurraider21 for assurance
:lol same guy you ran to about on Hillary/from Hillary and got shot down

:cry hyperbole :cry

[TSA]

Intel Community to Trump: "Now we go nuclear. He will die in jail." (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/15/1634012/-Under-the-Drumpfster-Fire-of-Flynn-and-Russian-Intel-is-most-likely-much-more-fire)

WASHINGTON — Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of

Donald J. Trump (http://www.nytimes.com/topic/person/donald-trump?inline=nyt-per)’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election,

according to four current and former American officials.

American law enforcement and intelligence agencies intercepted the communications around the same time they were discovering evidence that Russia (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/russiaandtheformersovietunion/index.html?inline=nyt-geo) was trying to disrupt the presidential election by hacking into the Democratic National Committee, three of the officials said.

The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

On Wednesday, former NSA intelligence analyst John Schindler provided some insight into the reaction of national security officials.

“Now we go nuclear,” he wrote on Twitter (https://twitter.com/20committee/status/831872441597194241). “[Intelligence community] war going to new levels. Just got an [email from] senior [intelligence community] friend, it began: ‘He will die in jail.'”

“US intelligence is not the problem here,” Schindler added in another tweet (https://twitter.com/20committee/status/831871040762630146).

“The President’s collusion with Russian intelligence is. Many details, but the essence is simple.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/15/1634012/-Under-the-Drumpfster-Fire-of-Flynn-and-Russian-Intel-is-most-likely-much-more-fire

:lol John Schindler
:lol dick pics at academy
:lol using NSA tools to blackmail

[Pavlov]

Since TSA hasn't been told what to say, has anyone seen a workable DNC Fusion Chalupa Junior theory posted anywhere?[/character break]

[Reck]

And the backtracking begins :rollin

Your point was I constantly said she'd be indicted, I didn't. As of now its just you who's failed.

:lol running to spurraider21 for assurance
:lol same guy you ran to about on Hillary/from Hillary and got shot down

:cry hyperbole :cry

Stupid fuck.

Even if I grant you didn't say it every day. you're still wrong. You were proven wrong. Fact.

You have to be one stupid fuck to keep fighting something you said yourself.

TSA: Find me a post where I'm saying she'll be indicted
Me:
She'll be indicted....then again once she gets the nomination.

You doubled down on it, stupid.

[Blake]

When the others (blacks) did it---it was called sampling and it's jake.
When Ice (white) did it---it's called plagiarism & he was threatened with death.


that Sting never has to work again if he doesn’t want to. On top of all his income from touring and his incredibly popular back catalog, a new article reveals that he earns $730,000 a year — $2,000 a day — in royalties from only one song, ‘Every Breath You Take.’

Celebrity Net Worth gets into the fiscal story of the Police’s massive 1983 hit. Its success had already netted Sting enough “mailbox money” over the years, but in 1997 it was appropriated by Puff Daddy for ‘I’ll Be Missing You,’ his tribute to slain rapper Notorious B.I.G. Its melody was used in the chorus, sung by Biggie’s widow, Faith Evans, and Andy Summers’ ominously sinuous guitar part was sampled.

However, Puff Daddy never asked permission from Sting for the sample, which would have probably allowed him to pay out just 25 percent of the publishing royalties. Instead, due to copyright law, Sting was able to lay claim to 100 percent of them.



Read More: Sting Earns $2,000 a Day Because Puff Daddy Didn’t Say ‘Please’ Back in 1997 | http://ultimateclassicrock.com/sting-puff-daddy-2000-a-day/?trackback=tsmclip


When P Diddy did it, it's called plagiarism and he made $0 off the song because of it.

[spurraider21]

and drake payed 4tay 100k

led zeppelin won their case recently where they were accused of ripping off the opening of stairway to heaven (although i think that one was fine)

[boutons_deux]

Trump 2020 campaign doubled its spending on legal fees in three months thanks to Russia scandal

President Donald Trump’s re-election campaign spent $700,000 on legal fees between April and June as the scandal around Russian interference in the 2016 election has intensified,

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/trump-2020-campaign-doubled-its-spending-on-legal-fees-in-three-months-thanks-to-russia-scandal/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

:lol The grifter Job Creators! :lol

[TSA]

Except you had such a hard on for Hillary going to jail that you actually did. You literally spent your days pedaling pending indictments are coming! indictements are coming every single day on here.


I didn't say Hillary will be indicted every single day.




Even if I grant you didn't say it every day. you're still wrong. :lmao



And the one time I did say it, was hyperbole. It's used all the time :lmao

[TSA]

Since TSA hasn't been told what to say, has anyone seen a workable DNC Fusion Chalupa Junior theory posted anywhere?[/character break]

If you really wanted to see my theory you would correct your timeline and add the Prevezon lawyer's 2013-2015 work with Fusion GPS and the Russian counterintelligence officers work with Fusion GPS.

[Pavlov]

If you really wanted to see my theory you would correct your timeline and add the Prevezon lawyer's 2013-2015 work with Fusion GPS and the Russian counterintelligence officers work with Fusion GPS.Show me where put in timeline. I no see where fit with Junior timeline.

[Pavlov]

And TSA puss out once again.

[Reck]

:lmao



And the one time I did say it, was hyperbole. It's used all the time :lmao


Too stupid to come up with a witty response.

:cry I deny I said it, show me. :cry

:lol exposed as a shitheel and idiot

:lol STs personal toilet seat.

[boutons_deux]

what a dickless little punk, emotionally, intellectually arrested at 12 years old MAX



Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

HillaryClinton can illegally get the questions to the Debate & delete 33,000 emails but my son Don is being scorned by the Fake News Media?

5:35 AM - 16 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/886534810575020032)

[djohn2oo8]

886709390438535168

[djohn2oo8]

886722746721423361
:lol pissing off secret service

[Pavlov]

886722746721423361
:lol pissing off secret service:lol "Mr. Trump -- those Russian government agents that told you they work for the Russian government might be working for the Russian government."

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[Chris]

SECRET SERVICE!

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[djohn2oo8]

Lol Chris is going to lose his mind once he finds out Donnie called into the meeting.

[Adam Lambert]

http://supersizedargument.weebly.com/uploads/2/6/6/8/26688642/362295659.jpg

"these are nothingburgers"

[Pavlov]

Lol Chris is going to lose his mind once he finds out Donnie called into the meeting.Yes....going to....

[spurraider21]

Lol Chris is going to lose his mind once he finds out Donnie called into the meeting.
need TSA to confirm if djohn thinks this is going to happen or if he's clairvoyant

[Thread]

SECRET SERVICE!

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tee, hee.

[boutons_deux]

Come On, We All Know That Trump Is Lying About Not Being Told About Russia Meeting, Right?

President Trump totally knew about the meeting, and everyone is lying about this.

The weirdest part is I think pretty much everyone in the media already knows this,

the first element to consider is the nature of the Trump organization and the personality of Trump himself.

Neither is remotely known for valuing rules, procedure, formalities, or discipline.

This is a man who, even as president, routinely tweets at all hours of the night, on sensitive topics, all based on information often as suspect as “people are saying.”

He is also a notorious control freak.
Keep in mind, in June 2016, Trump wasn’t even officially the GOP nominee yet and was still running a renegade, seat-of-your pants, live day-to-day campaign which centered completely on him.

So, on its face,

the idea of a meeting of this magnitude being taken in Trump Tower, with the three top people in Trump’s orbit (all of whom would be taking a massive risk by participating without the approval of the boss), and him not knowing about it, is completely absurd.

the first element to consider is the nature of the Trump organization and the personality of Trump himself. Neither is remotely known for valuing rules, procedure, formalities, or discipline.

Both the president and Don Jr. have said that it was a good idea, at least at the time, to take the meeting.

Well,

if it was a good idea, and there was nothing nefarious going on, then why in the world would you remotely hesitate to tell your father/candidate about it?

Trump teased a forthcoming speech (for the next Monday) on negative Hillary information just after (http://www.mediaite.com/online/flashback-trump-teased-major-hillary-speech-hours-after-don-jr-confirmed-russian-lawyer-meeting/) Don Jr. got his “Hillary dirt” email and confirmed the meeting.

He also “coincidently” tweeted about Hillary’s emails just after the meeting had ended (http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/politics/trump-campaign-june-9/index.html) and, oh by the way,

it appears that Trump was IN THE BUILDING (http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/president-trump-tower-son-met-russian-lawyer) when this all took place!

there is the issue of Don Jr.’s many lies about the nature of the meeting.

If there was nothing immoral / illegal going on here,

then why lie about it (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/shep-smith-if-don-jr-meeting-was-no-big-deal-why-all-these-lies/) on multiple occasions (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/tapper-hits-don-jr-for-previously-saying-he-revealed-everything-on-meeting-this-was-not-everything/) in such an obvious fashion (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-wallace-on-latest-don-jr-bombshell-huge-problem-with-the-credibility-of-the-white-house/)?

Why do we keep finding out that his claims, like the implausible idea that no information was actually provided are apparently false (http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/bombshell-new-report-claims-russian-lawyer-actually-did-bring-clinton-dirt-docs-to-trump-jr-meeting/)?

http://www.mediaite.com/online/come-on-we-all-know-that-trump-is-lying-about-not-being-told-about-russia-meeting-right/

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

886798828216606720

Already got burned for it. SS already set the record straight. What a clown show.

[boutons_deux]

Any bets that an "unknown" person meeting the Russians was Trash his corrupted, compromised, treasonous self?

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[djohn2oo8]

Already got burned for it. SS already set the record straight. What a clown show.

Its a bigger blunder that one could imagine. He indirectly admitted Trump was in the building.

[djohn2oo8]

Any bets that an "unknown" person meeting the Russians was Trash his corrupted, compromised, treasonous self?

Yes he was there. His lawyer already let it slip.

[Thread]

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[djohn2oo8]

Yes he was there. His lawyer already let it slip.

[Thread]

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[Reck]

886027423074197508

Ok fine I'll bite.

This just means that they're both now in the club.

The but he did it also excuse is not an excuse.

[boutons_deux]

Trump meeting may have been 'the green light Russia was looking for' (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/16/1681113/-Open-thread-for-night-owls-Trump-meeting-may-have-been-the-green-light-Russia-was-looking-for)

Intelligence expert Rolf Mowatt-Larseen on the now infamous Trump Tower meeting (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/trump-jrs-russia-meeting-sure-sounds-like-a-russian-intelligence-operation/2017/07/14/5f7f3dfe-6762-11e7-9928-22d00a47778f_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.a623d59d46fa):


[E]verything we know about the meeting — from whom it involved to how it was set up to how it unfolded — is in line with what intelligence analysts would expect an overture in a Russian influence operation to look like.

It bears all the hallmarks of a

professionally planned, carefully orchestrated intelligence soft pitch designed to gauge receptivity, while leaving room for plausible deniability in case the approach is rejected.

And the Trump campaign’s willingness to take the meeting — and, more important, its failure to report the episode to U.S. authorities —

may have been exactly the green light Russia was looking for to launch a more aggressive phase of intervention in the U.S. election campaign. [...]

From the Russian perspective, the fact that Trump Jr. agreed to the meeting would have been the first promising sign.

That veteran political operative Paul Manafort and senior adviser Jared Kushner showed up with him would have furthered the impression that there was strong interest in Russian assistance (and vulnerability to compromise) on the part of the campaign.

But, according to standard espionage tradecraft, the

most notable achievement of this encounter lay in the campaign’s failure to report it to the appropriate U.S. authorities —

as Russia would have known when there was no immediate, dramatic increase in U.S. counterintelligence scrutiny of its election-related operations.


As for why the initial emails so bluntly stated that the contact was part of a Russian government initiative

—putting the most incendiary aspect of the meeting in plain text, from the beginning, he suspects it was “to avoid the possibility that [the] offer might be misconstrued, perhaps naively, as an innocent gesture of support and nothing more.”

By making it explicit, the Putin government could be assured Trump would have “a full appreciation” for their role in an upcoming victory.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/16/1681113/-Open-thread-for-night-owls-Trump-meeting-may-have-been-the-green-light-Russia-was-looking-for?detail=emaildkre

Pootin assuring Trash's "a full appreciation" of BFF Pootin's help because Pootin was expecting the huge favor to be returned, like enabling the $500B oil/gas deal with Pootin's other BFF, RExxon Tillerson.

[Thread]

Ok fine I'll bite.

This just means that they're both now in the club.

The but he did it also excuse is not an excuse.

I don't mind being in that club. Trump doesn't either, truth be told. They're/We're all in that club. It's a dirty, filthy vocation, like every fucking vocation/business in this country, in the civilized world. No entity is excluded...politics, religion, medical, industry, retail, wholesale, sales, on & on. You've learned that over your life span, Recky.

[Adam Lambert]

we also carpet bombed vietnam back in the war, so i guess if we get napalmed the appropriate reaction is "oh well, thats just war and weve done it too."

lol cucks

[Thread]

we also carpet bombed vietnam back in the war, so i guess if we get napalmed the appropriate reaction is "oh well, thats just war and weve done it too."

lol cucks

Absolutely.

The problem is Adam, we just want to do it to them without risk of them doing it to us...We use the "God is on our side" protocol. We can dish it---but, we don't want to take it. + we take actual, serious umbrage when it's sent back onto us. Yeah, the fuckin' nerve.

[Adam Lambert]

Absolutely.

just when i think you couldnt possibly be any dumber, you continue to lower the bar

anyway i thought you were done engaging me because i hurt your feefees

[Thread]

just when i think you couldnt possibly be any dumber, you continue to lower the bar

anyway i thought you were done engaging me because i hurt your feefees

No, you ain't been vile since I asked you not to be. If you cross that vile line I'll tell you and we can go our separate ways. I'd miss responding to your materiel.

[spurraider21]

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but officer, the guy in front of me was speeding too!

solly, cholly

[Thread]

but officer, the guy in front of me was speeding too!

solly, cholly

What's good for goose, is sauce for the gander, 21.

& the next time you got the con you should step up and show the way on the [But they did it.] protocol. Then we'll follow that example if we ever get the con again.

[spurraider21]

What's good for goose, is sauce for the gander, 21.

& the next time you got the con you should step up and show the way on the [But they did it.] protocol. Then we'll follow that example if we ever get the con again.
You've got the con, so you should step up and show the way. Are you leaders or followers?

[Mitch]

https://i.redd.it/orh8bqncy6az.jpg

[djohn2oo8]

886954322730332160
lol blowing the adoption theory out of the water on Twitter

[Blake]

What's good for goose, is sauce for the gander, 21.

& the next time you got the con you should step up and show the way on the [But they did it.] protocol. Then we'll follow that example if we ever get the con again.

Caputo waits 20 years to say something?

[Reck]

https://i.redd.it/orh8bqncy6az.jpg

Where you been Mitch?

8 years, right? :lol

[spurraider21]

he'll respond with youtube of trump winning Penn

[Thread]

Caputo waits 20 years to say something?

We needed it. I'm sure Trump inquired of him. "You got anything?"

"No."

"Well, whatever you don't have I need it and I need it now."

[Thread]

You've got the con, so you should step up and show the way. Are you leaders or followers?

It's an inconsequential point, 21.

If you want to show the way wait your turn.

[Thread]

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[Blake]

We needed it. I'm sure Trump inquired of him. "You got anything?"

"No."

"Well, whatever you don't have I need it and I need it now."


Eh, if Trump needed it, Russia would be complaining about American tampering already.

[spurraider21]

It's an inconsequential point, 21.

If you want to show the way wait your turn.
So you're followers, not leaders. As long as we have that clear.

Charge

[Pavlov]

https://i.redd.it/orh8bqncy6az.jpgMueller looking.