Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Subpoenas everywhere

[TSA]

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Why did you abandon your girl Mensch so quickly? Was the FISA court indictment too much?

What happened to Eric Garland?

Is Kyle Griffin here to stay or will you abandon him when he's caught with his pants down like the rest of your Twitter tards?

[TSA]

it ain't over.

And Trash is certainly going down for financial crimes, investigated by Mueller AND Schneiderman.

How many more former or acting intel officials need to say there was no collusion before it's over?

[djohn2oo8]

867133523743969280

[clambake]

How many more former or acting intel officials need to say there was no collusion before it's over?

fun, isn't it? and she hates him.

good stuff

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

867141429474328579
Subpoenas everywhere

:lol

You've been a huge pussy lately after refusing to put money back on the table so let's just lay out a simple ELE bet. I'm tired of wading through 160+ pages of tweets that fail to deliver even a SINGLE indictment or charge and you've got to be tired of me rubbing that fact in your face every single day.

Are you willing to put your account back on the line yes or no?

[Reck]

TSA BE LIKE JOHNNNNNN

https://media2.giphy.com/media/qUEl8T4GpWAuI/giphy.gif?response_id=5924b5e5d09fafc2fddba1d3

[TSA]

‘We’re right, they’re wrong’: Hannity doubles down on DNC murder conspiracy after Fox retracts story
http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/fox_hannity_geraldo_160510a1-800x430.jpg

Despite his employer retracting their coverage of conspiracy theories (https://mic.com/articles/177947/fox-news-seth-rich-has-retracted-a-shady-conspiracy-theory-from-its-website-sean-hannity) surrounding the murder of former DNC staffer Seth Rich, Fox News host Sean Hannity continues to plug the debunked theories on his radio show.

During his May 23 show, which aired just a few hours after Fox retracted their report on theories about Rich’s murder, Hannity took to the FM airwaves to double down on the conspiracy.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/were-right-theyre-wrong-hannity-doubles-down-on-dnc-murder-conspiracy-after-fox-retracts-story/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

In 4chan and Hannity we trust, right, TSA? :lol





Hannity's a blowhard I usually ignore, but these recent tweets got my attention. If Media Matters/David Brock are trying to silence him, he's on to something they don't want getting out.

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867143093459570688

[Reck]

:cry I NEED YOU HELP! :cry

[TSA]

The passive ignore is so much more entertaining than the ignore feature :rollin

[boutons_deux]

How can MM silence Hun-ity? :lol

"I need your help" :lol

whiny little bitch of a dickless bully.

[Reck]

But but will you help me? :cry

[boutons_deux]

In a statement, Fox News said (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/23/fox-news-retracts-story-dnc-staffer-seth-rich-death-238728),

“Upon appropriate review, the article was found not to meet those standards and has since been removed.

We will continue to investigate this story and will provide updates as warranted.”

Hannity refused to apologize or retract anything, but the Fox News retraction has the host worried about his job.

The reality is that the Murdoch sons aren’t fans of Hannity.

Sean Hannity was one of Roger Ailes’s favorites.

Hannity is losing or barely winning his timeslot against MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/05/23/sean-hannity-freaking-claiming-liberal-fascists-fired.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

... and speculation is that L. O'D could be on the way out, replaced by a right-wing-nut as NBC tries to grab some of Fox's old white asshole viewers.

[TSA]

How can MM silence Hun-ity? :lol

"I need your help" :lol

whiny little bitch of a dickless bully.

Thanks for bringing up Hannity I'll have to watch tonight's show :tu

[TSA]

GLcMBnz9GWk

The no collusion montage is almost as good as the Hillary supporters crying montage on election night

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/7568345c42268f904bb253672e0993a3

[spurraider21]

are those pictures really telling of anything? you can find people crying after every election. google people crying after the 2012 elections...

[TSA]

are those pictures really telling of anything? you can find people crying after every election. google people crying after the 2012 elections...

Yes there are pictures of Mormons crying after Romney lost. You've posted the video, we are all aware. Thank you for your contribution.

[ElNono]

Hannity's a blowhard I usually ignore, but these recent tweets got my attention. If Media Matters/David Brock are trying to silence him, he's on to something they don't want getting out.

867126424691515394

867143093459570688

Does this get your attention?

Rich’s family thanked Fox for retracting the story in a statement sent through a spokesman on Tuesday.

“The family would like to thank Fox News for their retraction on a story that has caused pain and anguish to the family and has done harm to Seth Rich’s legacy,” the family said. “We are hopeful that in the future that Fox News will work with the family to ensure the highest degree of professionality and scrutiny is followed so that only accurate facts are reported surrounding this case.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/23/fox-news-retracts-story-dnc-staffer-seth-rich-death-238728

[TSA]

Does this get your attention?

Rich’s family thanked Fox for retracting the story in a statement sent through a spokesman on Tuesday.

“The family would like to thank Fox News for their retraction on a story that has caused pain and anguish to the family and has done harm to Seth Rich’s legacy,” the family said. “We are hopeful that in the future that Fox News will work with the family to ensure the highest degree of professionality and scrutiny is followed so that only accurate facts are reported surrounding this case.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/23/fox-news-retracts-story-dnc-staffer-seth-rich-death-238728

It'd be nice to actually hear from the family and not the DNC hired crisis consultant

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[Reck]

Will the real family please stand up?

:lol

[spurraider21]

Yes there are pictures of Mormons crying after Romney lost. You've posted the video, we are all aware. Thank you for your contribution.and how many times have you posted pictures/videos of libs crying after hillary lost?

[Spurminator]

It'd be nice to actually hear from the family and not the DNC hired crisis consultant


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/were-seth-richs-parents-stop-politicizing-our-sons-murder/2017/05/23/164cf4dc-3fee-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?utm_term=.7db7dca14b97

We’re Seth Rich’s parents. Stop politicizing our son’s murder.

[Spurminator]

Odds TSA either:

- Respects the Rich parents' wishes

or

- Continues to post "compelling" new developments from the likes of Sean Fucking Hannity

[ElNono]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/were-seth-richs-parents-stop-politicizing-our-sons-murder/2017/05/23/164cf4dc-3fee-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?utm_term=.7db7dca14b97

We’re Seth Rich’s parents. Stop politicizing our son’s murder.

welp

[clambake]

give him a break.

he found some percocet.

[Spurminator]

If Media Matters/David Brock are trying to silence him, he's on to something they don't want getting out.

Or they're a liberal organization calling for sponsor boycotts of overtly conservative programming, which happens literally every month.

"He's onto something"
:lol

You really do think we're stupid. Take that shit someplace else.

[TSA]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/were-seth-richs-parents-stop-politicizing-our-sons-murder/2017/05/23/164cf4dc-3fee-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?utm_term=.7db7dca14b97

We’re Seth Rich’s parents. Stop politicizing our son’s murder.

Paywalled. Thanks.

[TSA]

Odds TSA either:

- Respects the Rich parents' wishes

or

- Continues to post "compelling" new developments from the likes of Sean Fucking Hannity

or

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[TSA]

give him a break.

he found some percocet.

And some norcos :tu

[spurraider21]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/were-seth-richs-parents-stop-politicizing-our-sons-murder/2017/05/23/164cf4dc-3fee-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?utm_term=.7db7dca14b97

We’re Seth Rich’s parents. Stop politicizing our son’s murder.:lmao

[baseline bum]

It's funny watching TSA bitch about Louise Mensch and then post pizzagate and Seth Rich crap.

[djohn2oo8]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/were-seth-richs-parents-stop-politicizing-our-sons-murder/2017/05/23/164cf4dc-3fee-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?utm_term=.7db7dca14b97

We’re Seth Rich’s parents. Stop politicizing our son’s murder.

TSA looking like Ava
a Devine after a 20 guy bukkake.

[spurraider21]

in his defense WaPo is fake news, so clearly that article is a complete fabrication and we haven't actually heard from his parents

[TSA]

It's funny watching TSA bitch about Louise Mensch and then post pizzagate and Seth Rich crap.

Mensch is easy to debunk on the spot. To this day no one's debunked pizzagate nor solved the Seth Rich murder.

[monosylab1k]

Mensch is easy to debunk on the spot. To this day no one's debunked pizzagate nor solved the Seth Rich murder.

:lmao

[TSA]

TSA looking like Ava
a Devine after a 20 guy bukkake.

GLcMBnz9GWk

Put up or shut up time djohn. Let's discuss the terms.

[baseline bum]

Paywalled. Thanks.

open in incognito mode

[TSA]

open in incognito mode

Can you just copy paste it. Also want to know who the author of the opinion piece was.

[Spurminator]

Can you just copy paste it. Also want to know who the author of the opinion piece was.

The authors are the parents of Seth Rich. We're not your monkeys. Open the article in incognito mode.

[Spurminator]

Or quit reading over 20 articles per month on a publication you have been calling "fake news" for the past 6 months.

[TSA]

Or quit reading over 20 articles per month on a publication you have been calling "fake news" for the past 6 months.

I blame djohn's tweets for that.

[TSA]

The authors are the parents of Seth Rich. We're not your monkeys. Open the article in incognito mode.

If you really wanted me to read it you'd paste it. I don't care enough to try.

[TSA]

Kp7FkLBRpKg

It is terrible that the prime conduit for this paranoid nonsense is a once great newspaper, the Washington Post, which far from investigating executive power, now is a sounding board for totally evidence free anonymous source briefing of utter bullshit from the executive.

In the UK, one single article sums up the total abnegation of all journalistic standards. The truly execrable Jonathan Freedland of the Guardian writes “Few credible sources doubt that Russia was behind the hacking of internal Democratic party emails, whose release by Julian Assange was timed to cause maximum pain to Hillary Clinton and pleasure for Trump.” Does he produce any evidence at all for this assertion? No, none whatsoever. What does a journalist mean by a “credible source”? Well, any journalist worth their salt in considering the credibility of a source will first consider access. Do they credibly have access to the information they claim to have?

Now both Julian Assange and I have stated definitively the leak does not come from Russia. Do we credibly have access? Yes, very obviously. Very, very few people can be said to definitely have access to the source of the leak. The people saying it is not Russia are those who do have access. After access, you consider truthfulness. Do Julian Assange and I have a reputation for truthfulness? Well in 10 years not one of the tens of thousands of documents WikiLeaks has released has had its authenticity successfully challenged. As for me, I have a reputation for inconvenient truth telling.

Contrast this to the “credible sources” Freedland relies on. What access do they have to the whistleblower? Zero. They have not the faintest idea who the whistleblower is. Otherwise they would have arrested them. What reputation do they have for truthfulness? It’s the Clinton gang and the US government, for goodness sake.

In fact, the sources any serious journalist would view as “credible” give the opposite answer to the one Freedland wants. But in what passes for Freedland’s mind, “credible” is 100% synonymous with “establishment”. When he says “credible sources” he means “establishment sources”. That is the truth of the “fake news” meme. You are not to read anything unless it is officially approved by the elite and their disgusting, crawling whores of stenographers like Freedland.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/12/cias-absence-conviction/

[DarrinS]

open in incognito mode

I didn't realize you could do that. Thanks.

[spurraider21]

It'd be nice to actually hear from the family and not the DNC hired crisis consultant, but not if i have to open it in incognito mode

[Spurminator]

If you really wanted me to read it you'd paste it.

I don't. Just posting it here for everyone else who's not willfully and pridefully dishonest so they can see what a chickenshit you are and how low you'll go. Keep dancing.

[TSA]

I don't. Just posting it here for everyone else who's not willfully and pridefully dishonest so they can see what a chickenshit you are and how low you'll go. Keep dancing.

I found a non paywalled statement from the family crisis consultant and his brother. His brothers piece reads exactly as if it was written by a crisis consultant.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/23/media/seth-rich-family-letter-hannity-fox-news/index.html

[I. Hustle]

Wwwwhhhhy all these pages over this guy? This isss Bullshit!
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQzauQ4QbCl9H3LNu9URRbN3FphACLt cSOlcanN_sSNVKPZLj0

[TSA]

45 minutes till Hannity

https://media.giphy.com/media/ri3DONNgpGW4w/giphy.gif

#pandas4bernie
#sethrich

[TSA]

Kp7FkLBRpKg

It is terrible that the prime conduit for this paranoid nonsense is a once great newspaper, the Washington Post, which far from investigating executive power, now is a sounding board for totally evidence free anonymous source briefing of utter bullshit from the executive.

In the UK, one single article sums up the total abnegation of all journalistic standards. The truly execrable Jonathan Freedland of the Guardian writes “Few credible sources doubt that Russia was behind the hacking of internal Democratic party emails, whose release by Julian Assange was timed to cause maximum pain to Hillary Clinton and pleasure for Trump.” Does he produce any evidence at all for this assertion? No, none whatsoever. What does a journalist mean by a “credible source”? Well, any journalist worth their salt in considering the credibility of a source will first consider access. Do they credibly have access to the information they claim to have?

Now both Julian Assange and I have stated definitively the leak does not come from Russia. Do we credibly have access? Yes, very obviously. Very, very few people can be said to definitely have access to the source of the leak. The people saying it is not Russia are those who do have access. After access, you consider truthfulness. Do Julian Assange and I have a reputation for truthfulness? Well in 10 years not one of the tens of thousands of documents WikiLeaks has released has had its authenticity successfully challenged. As for me, I have a reputation for inconvenient truth telling.

Contrast this to the “credible sources” Freedland relies on. What access do they have to the whistleblower? Zero. They have not the faintest idea who the whistleblower is. Otherwise they would have arrested them. What reputation do they have for truthfulness? It’s the Clinton gang and the US government, for goodness sake.

In fact, the sources any serious journalist would view as “credible” give the opposite answer to the one Freedland wants. But in what passes for Freedland’s mind, “credible” is 100% synonymous with “establishment”. When he says “credible sources” he means “establishment sources”. That is the truth of the “fake news” meme. You are not to read anything unless it is officially approved by the elite and their disgusting, crawling whores of stenographers like Freedland.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/12/cias-absence-conviction/

Just another "coincidence" to add to the growing list of things not right in Seth Rich case.
Dr Jack Sava was the doctor who over saw Seth Rich when he was admitted to Medstar. Sava's wife is Lisa Kountoupes.
Kountoupes happens to be close with the Podesta's and does fund raisers together.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails//fileid/26634/7400

[baseline bum]

TSA going Louise Mensch

[Adam Lambert]

i have never seen a bigger psychological meltdown in my life.

somebody get this poor faggot help before he goes dylann roof on someone.

[TSA]

TSA going Louise Mensch

I'm in the right thread and the same state of mind :rollin
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/louise-mensch-my-mind-is-messed-up-after-taking-hard-drugs-7920094.html

[baseline bum]

I'm in the right thread and the same state of mind :rollin
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/louise-mensch-my-mind-is-messed-up-after-taking-hard-drugs-7920094.html

So she's like Limbaugh

[monosylab1k]

The mental gymnastics it must take to be this intellectually dishonest :lol

[hitmanyr2k]

Wwwwhhhhy all these pages over this guy? This isss Bullshit!
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQzauQ4QbCl9H3LNu9URRbN3FphACLt cSOlcanN_sSNVKPZLj0

The idiots of the country need distraction to take their minds off what a clusterfuck and failure Trump has been so far. Hannity provides the best mindless bullshit.

[spurraider21]

The idiots of the country need distraction to take their minds off what a clusterfuck and failure Trump has been so far. Hannity provides the best mindless bullshit.watch his show and take a drink every time he says, verbatim, "alt-radical left destroy trump media"

[TSA]

watch his show and take a drink every time he says, verbatim, "alt-radical left destroy trump media"

:lmao picturing you doing this in your room studying for the bar while your dad is watching it loudly in the living room

[TSA]

So she's like Limbaugh

I thought Limbaugh was more of a pain killer abuser. Mensch married some rocker and ran the music tours, I doubt the hard drugs she's talking about were pain killers.

[Reck]

So has TSA sugar rush subsided after Hannity let him down again? :lol

[ElNono]

The mental gymnastics it must take to be this intellectually dishonest :lol

:lol

[Adam Lambert]

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tsa got cuuuuuuuucked

[TSA]

867200383306878978

tsa got cuuuuuuuucked


Hannity's a blowhard I usually ignore

back to ignoring Hannity. At least Spurminator can sleep easy knowing the families wishes were respected.

[monosylab1k]

867200383306878978

tsa got cuuuuuuuucked

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

It's like the entire alt-right just got Crying Game'd.

[TSA]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

It's like the entire alt-right just got Crying Game'd.

Are you really surprised he chose $$$$$ first? I'm not shocked at all.

[TSA]

Interesting breakdown of WaPo vs Fox coverage of Seth Rich murder. Not sure how this will format so here's the link.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1884383

[monosylab1k]

Are you really surprised he chose $$$$$ first? I'm not shocked at all.

Yeah, he's an evil pigfucker leech of a human being, unfortunately the vast majority of his audience is too stupid to see that. It's funny to see his facade crumble before their eyes.

[spurraider21]

:lmao picturing you doing this in your room studying for the bar while your dad is watching it loudly in the living room
:lol easiest way to fail the bar tbh

[hitmanyr2k]

Hannity has been a disgrace for years. I'm not sure why people still listen to that fraud. He was George Bush's shill mouthpiece for years until Bush turned into the GOP pariah and now he's latched on to Trump's scrotum like a parasite to run interference with these bullshit stories any time Trumpy gets bad press.

[spurraider21]

Interesting breakdown of WaPo vs Fox coverage of Seth Rich murder. Not sure how this will format so here's the link.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1884383 (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1884383)
:lmao credible source confirmed

[clambake]

oh no.


tsa, buddy, you may be a sawm.


you can find the rails.

[TSA]

:lmao credible source confirmed

its actually quite interesting to see how each network times releases reacting to the other

[Adam Lambert]

its actually quite interesting watching your brain become mush

[ElNono]

More family speaking...

On Tuesday, Aaron Rich, Seth’s brother, wrote in a letter to Porter Berry, the executive producer of Hannity’s show, “Providing a platform to spread potentially false, damaging information will cause us additional pain, suffering and sorrow.... Think about how you would feel losing a son or brother.”

http://www.newsweek.com/seth-rich-kim-dotcom-murder-wikileaks-fox-news-sean-hannity-russia-hillary-614307

[spurraider21]

More family speaking...

On Tuesday, Aaron Rich, Seth’s brother, wrote in a letter to Porter Berry, the executive producer of Hannity’s show, “Providing a platform to spread potentially false, damaging information will cause us additional pain, suffering and sorrow.... Think about how you would feel losing a son or brother.”

http://www.newsweek.com/seth-rich-kim-dotcom-murder-wikileaks-fox-news-sean-hannity-russia-hillary-614307
Fake news

[AaronY]

its actually quite interesting watching your brain become mush
Lol.

[Spurminator]

back to ignoring Hannity. At least Spurminator can sleep easy knowing the families wishes were respected.

I slept fine regardless.

I would only lose sleep if I spent hours a day deliberately pushing out lies and faking concern/interest in those lies, but I understand not everyone values their own integrity that way.

[RandomGuy]

Hannity has been a disgrace for years. I'm not sure why people still listen to that fraud. He was George Bush's shill mouthpiece for years until Bush turned into the GOP pariah and now he's latched on to Trump's scrotum like a parasite to run interference with these bullshit stories any time Trumpy gets bad press.

"Obama's fancy mustard" :lmao

[TSA]

More family speaking...

On Tuesday, Aaron Rich, Seth’s brother, wrote in a letter to Porter Berry, the executive producer of Hannity’s show, “Providing a platform to spread potentially false, damaging information will cause us additional pain, suffering and sorrow.... Think about how you would feel losing a son or brother.”
http://www.newsweek.com/seth-rich-kim-dotcom-murder-wikileaks-fox-news-sean-hannity-russia-hillary-614307

already posted but let's look into it more. The statements coming from the family (DNC crisis spokesman) make no sense. Looks like Kim is offering to show proof. Why would the family immediately shut that offer down? Metro PD says it was a robbery with no robbing, no leads, no suspects, missing body cam footage, $150,000 reward and no ones come forward. Why would the family not be interested in what Kim has to say? Fly him over here, see what he's got, and if it's bullshit fly him back or lock him up. Assange said it was a leaked and all but shouted it was Seth Rich, Craig Murray said it came from inside the DNC, and the Russian attribution has been exposed as a farce.

“The Rich family is tired of having to respond to accusations,” Brad Bauman, a family spokesman, said in a statement. “The burden of proof is on Mr. Dotcom to either prove he has evidence or face the consequences of damaging Seth’s good name and creating more emotional hardship on a grieving family. The family is not going to entertain his ridiculous, manipulative and completely non-credible statements.”

"Dotcom said he has been in touch with Rich’s family and that he has consulted with his lawyers. “I accept that my full statement should be provided to the authorities, and I am prepared to do that so that there can be a full investigation.” He said he is willing to provide evidence to the U.S. if Robert Mueller, the special counsel overseeing the FBI’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the 2016 presidential election, grants him safe passage to and from New Zealand. “In the coming days, we will be communicating with the appropriate authorities to make the necessary arrangements,” Dotcom said.

[TSA]

I slept fine regardless.

I would only lose sleep if I spent hours a day deliberately pushing out lies and faking concern/interest in those lies, but I understand not everyone values their own integrity that way.

What lie do you feel I am deliberately pushing? Be specific and be ready to back your statement up.

[monosylab1k]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=169&p=9029276&viewfull=1#post9029276



Hannity's a blowhard I usually ignore

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Why did you fake quote yourself?

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

867416127336587268

[TSA]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=169&p=9029276&viewfull=1#post9029276



Why did you fake quote yourself?
I didn't. It was a snip from post #5014.

[ElNono]

already posted but let's look into it more. The statements coming from the family (DNC crisis spokesman) make no sense. Looks like Kim is offering to show proof. Why would the family immediately shut that offer down?

Same article I linked to and you clearly didn't read:

Aaron Rich also wrote that someone claiming to be Dotcom had contacted the family. He said the family responded to the message, saying it wanted to discuss the apparent evidence, but the person behind the message did not reply to the family’s email.

[TSA]

867410797059858432

GLcMBnz9GWk

[djohn2oo8]

GLcMBnz9GWk

843919056306671616 months ago :lmao TSA

[monosylab1k]

Hannity's a blowhard I usually ignore, but

:tu ok i got it

[djohn2oo8]

Clapper NOT briefed :lmao
TSA can't read :lmao

[TSA]

Same article I linked to and you clearly didn't read:

Aaron Rich also wrote that someone claiming to be Dotcom had contacted the family. He said the family responded to the message, saying it wanted to discuss the apparent evidence, but the person behind the message did not reply to the family’s email.

because he didn't respond means that he doesn't have the evidence he claimed?

This is an unsolved murder case, the family shouldn't be dictating how the investigation is run. If Kim offers evidence to the FBI how can they say no?

[RandomGuy]

Interesting breakdown of WaPo vs Fox coverage of Seth Rich murder. Not sure how this will format so here's the link.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1884383

You guys are pushing that distraction hard.

LOL "pizzagate"

[TSA]

Clapper NOT briefed :lmao
TSA can't read :lmao

djohn can't watch an entire YouTube clip. Clapper isn't the only one saying no collusion.

[djohn2oo8]

djohn can't watch an entire YouTube clip. Clapper isn't the only one saying no collusion.

Clapper NOT briefed :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

djohn can't watch an entire YouTube clip. Clapper isn't the only one saying no collusion.

Guess who isnt saying no collusion? The FBI :lmao

[TSA]

You guys are pushing that distraction hard.

LOL "pizzagate"

It's actually the other way around. Look at what the WaPo pushes immediately after anything came out about Seth Rich.

[RandomGuy]

867200383306878978

tsa got cuuuuuuuucked

Maybe Hannity got some new info on what kind of ketchup Obama likes... :lol

[TSA]

Guess who isnt saying no collusion? The FBI :lmao

Which agencies released the ODNI report?

[RandomGuy]

It's actually the other way around. Look at what the WaPo pushes immediately after anything came out about Seth Rich.

I.
do.
not.
care.

Your lame attempts at deflecting from Trumps Russia problems are your concern, not mine.

[RandomGuy]

djohn can't watch an entire YouTube clip. Clapper isn't the only one saying no collusion.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/447915/

Pretty much the thrust of what you are going for. "no evidence" of "collusion". "its a made up scandal".

The first fails, as there hasn't been any real investigation done. There is plenty of evidence of something going on to warrant someone taking some serious, hard looks.

The huge problem, and it is one noted by the national review is that a total neophyte like Trump can be, and has already been, baited into doing something fatally stupid, i.e. obstruction of justice, in covering it up.

Clinton wasn't impeached because he got a BJ, he was impeached because he lied under oath about it.

Trump has, comically, all but admitted that he fired Comey to "take the pressure off", if the reports we have of his statements are to be believed. Those statements in the official records will out during the investigation.

I am inclined to tentatively accept the reports of what was said, as it appears reasonable to do so.

Trump's presidency may be tragicomically brief, if so.

Republicans will pay a very heavy price for covering for him.

[RandomGuy]

Just another "coincidence" to add to the growing list of things not right in Seth Rich case.
Dr Jack Sava was the doctor who over saw Seth Rich when he was admitted to Medstar. Sava's wife is Lisa Kountoupes.
Kountoupes happens to be close with the Podesta's and does fund raisers together.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails//fileid/26634/7400

Holy shit, stop the presses, people active in the Democratic party hang out together?

:lmao

TSA sooper detective is on the case.

https://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/tmw2014-05-28colorlarge.jpg

[RandomGuy]

I guess the next trick is to find out Seth's "Bacon number"?

DUN DUN DUN!!!

[Spurminator]

What lie do you feel I am deliberately pushing? Be specific and be ready to back your statement up.

You don't need me to tell you, and no one else needs it explained for their benefit. Your MO is well established here and it's honestly gotten boring going in circles with you over the same bullshit. Keep doing your thing.

[RandomGuy]

Flynn takes the fifth when it comes to talking to Congress about his contacts.

Taking the fifth amendment means he is guilty.




...right?

[spurraider21]

is TSA really pushing that it's a coincidence that a DNC staffer has a doctor who has ties to other DNC officials?

[RandomGuy]

is TSA really pushing that it's a coincidence that a DNC staffer has a doctor who has ties to other DNC officials?

Eyup. It is simply a misdirection tactic, intended to bend the conversation away from the OP.

[TSA]

I.
do.
not.
care.

Your lame attempts at deflecting from Trumps Russia problems are your concern, not mine.



I believe the whole Russian collusion angle was manufactured by the DNC with help from the Obama administration and the IC to take down Trump while he was running. They thought Hillary would easily win and they'd be able to sweep their plan under the rug. Trump shocked everyone and won. What we are seeing now is the scrambling of the DNC and the IC to try and cover up their mess. The flawed CrowdStrike report and the unmasking of USP's and illegal dissemination were fatal blows to the attempted cover up.

Here's your chance to rid the board of me for good.

Russian collusion proven---I'm gone for good.
No Russian collusion proven---You're gone for good.

I don't have any other usernames to fall back on so this is it for me. You game?

[TSA]

You don't need me to tell you, and no one else needs it explained for their benefit. Your MO is well established here and it's honestly gotten boring going in circles with you over the same bullshit. Keep doing your thing.

I do need you to tell me. You are calling me a liar. What lie am I pushing?

[TSA]

Eyup. It is simply a misdirection tactic, intended to bend the conversation away from the OP.

Would a misdirection tactic also be pointing out that three officers had body cameras on when they found Seth Rich yet there are no recordings? Or that he was alive and conscious for two hours and there isn't a single statement from him?

[RandomGuy]

“The mob takes the Fifth,” Trump told a campaign crowd in Iowa last September. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

[RandomGuy]

Would a misdirection tactic also be pointing out that three officers had body cameras on when they found Seth Rich yet there are no recordings? Or that he was alive and conscious for two hours and there isn't a single statement from him?


In 2014, then-businessman Trump had some free advice for Bill Cosby, who was facing a barrage of sexual assault accusations.

“If you are innocent, do not remain silent,” Trump tweeted. “You look guilty as hell!”

[ElNono]

because he didn't respond means that he doesn't have the evidence he claimed?

This is an unsolved murder case, the family shouldn't be dictating how the investigation is run. If Kim offers evidence to the FBI how can they say no?

:lol you keep moving the goalposts.... first it was that nothing the family says can be taken at face value because their spokersperson is a shill, then when the actual family speaks (mom, dad, and brother) you throw another excuse

Then you ask "Why would the family immediately shut that offer down?", when the family itself (not the alleged spokersperson shill) says they received and wanted to discuss this evidence...

I mean, at this point just tell me the family is in the conspiracy too, and loved their son/brother getting killed, tbh...

[spurraider21]

:lol you keep moving the goalposts.... first it was that nothing the family says can be taken at face value because their spokersperson is a shill, then when the actual family speaks (mom, dad, and brother) you throw another excuse

Then you ask "Why would the family immediately shut that offer down?", when the family itself (not the alleged spokersperson shill) says they received and wanted to discuss this evidence...

I mean, at this point just tell me the family is in the conspiracy too, and loved their son/brother getting killed, tbh...that's what baseline bum has been joking about, but starting to think it's not a joke to TSA :lol

[ducks]

Poll: 65 Percent Believe Mainstream Media Full of Fake News

most voters — 62 percent — believe that if the press publishes information gained through hacking or other illegal means, it should still be protected.

[RandomGuy]

I believe the whole Russian collusion angle was manufactured by the DNC with help from the Obama administration and the IC to take down Trump while he was running. They thought Hillary would easily win and they'd be able to sweep their plan under the rug. Trump shocked everyone and won. What we are seeing now is the scrambling of the DNC and the IC to try and cover up their mess. The flawed CrowdStrike report and the unmasking of USP's and illegal dissemination were fatal blows to the attempted cover up.

Here's your chance to rid the board of me for good.

Russian collusion proven---I'm gone for good.
No Russian collusion proven---You're gone for good.

I don't have any other usernames to fall back on so this is it for me. You game?

I don't do that, sorry. I see others do that, and it seems silly to me. (was going to say "no offense, but then I remembered how ugly I have been to you when I have lost my temper, so that seemed oddly hypocritical)

[RandomGuy]

I believe the whole Russian collusion angle was manufactured by the DNC with help from the Obama administration and the IC to take down Trump while he was running. They thought Hillary would easily win and they'd be able to sweep their plan under the rug. Trump shocked everyone and won. What we are seeing now is the scrambling of the DNC and the IC to try and cover up their mess. The flawed CrowdStrike report and the unmasking of USP's and illegal dissemination were fatal blows to the attempted cover up.


That is a huge conspiracy. Have fun proving that out. You really should make a thread out of it. Get it all in one place.

[RandomGuy]

Would a misdirection tactic also be pointing out [things that have nothing to do with whether Michael Flynn lied about contacts with the Russians]

https://media.giphy.com/media/ADr35Z4TvATIc/giphy.gif

[AaronY]

Poll: 100 Percent of Spurstalkers believe ducks is retarded

most Spurstalkers -- 62 percent -- believe ducks publishes shitty posts through copypasta or other means but he should still be protected when he does it tho

[TSA]

:lol you keep moving the goalposts.... first it was that nothing the family says can be taken at face value because their spokersperson is a shill, then when the actual family speaks (mom, dad, and brother) you throw another excuse

Then you ask "Why would the family immediately shut that offer down?", when the family itself (not the alleged spokersperson shill) says they received and wanted to discuss this evidence...

I mean, at this point just tell me the family is in the conspiracy too, and loved their son/brother getting killed, tbh...

I think the family is getting bad advice from a DNC crisis consultant who doesn't have the families best interests in mind.

[TSA]

That is a huge conspiracy. Have fun proving that out. You really should make a thread out of it. Get it all in one place.

There are more facts to support this theory than the Russians colluded with Trump to steal the election.

[TSA]

I don't do that, sorry. I see others do that, and it seems silly to me. (was going to say "no offense, but then I remembered how ugly I have been to you when I have lost my temper, so that seemed oddly hypocritical)

Fair enough. A gentlemans bet it is. I do enjoy conversing with you and would hate to see you leave so it's better this way. :tu

[ducks]

There are more facts to support this theory than the Russians colluded with Trump to steal the election.

[ducks]

Seth Rich story has more evidence then the trump Russia and the changing of the election

it is illegal for Russia to mess with the election but it is NOT ILLEGALL FOR THE ILLEGAL CRIMINALS or ILLEGAL ALLIENS THAT ARE IN USA to vote!

[Spurminator]

it is NOT ILLEGALL FOR THE ILLEGAL CRIMINALS or ILLEGAL ALLIENS THAT ARE IN USA to vote!

It's not? That's surprising, someone should do something about that.

[ducks]

there was over million most likely 3 million that voted that are not legal usa citizens in the election
it is wrong no matter who they voted for

[ElNono]

I think the family is getting bad advice from a DNC crisis consultant who doesn't have the families best interests in mind.

So now it's the family getting bad info? :lol

tbh, you should contact the family and let them know to disregard any information from the DNC, the Washington PD, the FBI and investigators on the murder, and join 4chan instead. That really makes a lot of sense...

[boutons_deux]

TRUMP’S DAMNING RESPONSES TO THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION

There is now significant evidence that Trump has been trying to cover up something related to the F.B.I. investigation. We just don’t know what it is.

In Watergate, Bernstein noted, “we knew there was a break-in and also that there was a massive campaign of political espionage and sabotage to undermine the political opposition.”

But with Trump, he went on, it could be a range of offenses:

“Is it specific acts of collusion?

Is it his financial dealings with ethno-Russians and countries of the former Soviet empire or those of others around him?

Is it about obstructing these investigations because they’ll reveal inappropriate contacts between the campaign and people acting in the interests of a hostile foreign power, perhaps including the President?

We don’t know yet.”

“Almost inevitably, unreasonable government secrecy is the enemy—and, usually, the giveaway about what the real story might be,” Bernstein said (https://www.poynter.org/2017/read-carl-bernstein-and-bob-woodwards-remarks-to-the-white-house-correspondents-association/457956/). “

And when lying is combined with secrecy there is usually a pretty good roadmap in front of you.”

He added, “Yes, follow the money.

But also follow the lies.”

http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/trumps-damning-responses-to-the-russia-investigation

If Trash and his Trashmen are squeaky clean, why doesn't he prove it, instead of obstructing investigations?

[baseline bum]

So now it's the family getting bad info? :lol

tbh, you should contact the family and let them know to disregard any information from the DNC, the Washington PD, the FBI and investigators on the murder, and join 4chan instead. That really makes a lot of sense...

:lmao

[TSA]

So now it's the family getting bad info? :lol

tbh, you should contact the family and let them know to disregard any information from the DNC, the Washington PD, the FBI and investigators on the murder, and join 4chan instead. That really makes a lot of sense...

Not a bad idea considering the current path the family has chosen has yielded zero results.

[ElNono]

Not a bad idea considering the current path the family has chosen has yielded zero results.

ya, conspiracy theories is where it's at...

[monosylab1k]

Seth Rich story has more evidence then the trump Russia and the changing of the election

it is illegal for Russia to mess with the election but it is NOT ILLEGALL FOR THE ILLEGAL CRIMINALS or ILLEGAL ALLIENS THAT ARE IN USA to vote!
And if vaccines work then why did I get the sniffles last week? :cry

[boutons_deux]

NYT: Russians Talked Last Year About Using Manafort, Flynn To Sway Trump

U.S. intelligence agents intercepted conversations between top Russian operatives and political officials discussing how they could use top campaign advisers to influence Donald Trump as early as summer 2016, the New York Times reported (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/24/us/politics/russia-trump-manafort-flynn.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0) Wednesday.

The Times report appeared to be the first indication that the U.S. intelligence community had evidence showing Russian operatives thought they could manipulate former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, a subject of federal investigation, to sway Trump.

The other target mentioned in the Russians’ conversations, according to three current and former U.S. officials who spoke to the Times, was ousted national security adviser Michael Flynn.

According to Times report, some of the monitored Russians boasted about their intimate acquaintance with Flynn, while others floated leveraging their relationships with deposed Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, who employed Manafort as a campaign adviser.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/russians-discussed-influencing-trump-through-manafort-flynn?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

And racist Sessions?

So MUCH SMOKE, and so much coverup, lying, there is DEFINITELY one or more fires.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[spurraider21]

guys did you hear about that NYT article?

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

guys did you hear about that NYT article?

Yeah you can shut the shit up too. "I don't believe anything until I see some hard evidence".

[djohn2oo8]

867501157173932033

Felony

[spurraider21]

Yeah you can shut the shit up too. "I don't believe anything until I see some hard evidence".yeah, such an irrational position :lol

[boutons_deux]

Sessions and Kushner both LIED on their govt forms by leaving out their contacts with Russians.

[djohn2oo8]

yeah, such an irrational position :lol

Like the smoke wasn't there from the beginning :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Sessions and Kushner both LIED on their govt forms by leaving out their contacts with Russians.

Yessir!

[spurraider21]

Like the smoke wasn't there from the beginning :lolnever doubted that there was smoke. i think the investigation is completely warranted.

[ducks]

name one person in congress who has not lied current or former

[djohn2oo8]

867506823921754112
If you have ever been through the clearance process it is serious shit.

[spurraider21]

under oath while under penalty of perjury?

[djohn2oo8]

name one person in congress who has not lied current or former

Lying on a government document is a Felony.

[ducks]

FBI Withholds Comey Memos from House Panel
Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, says in an interview on CNN that the FBI sent his committee's staff a two-sentence email saying it would not be turning over the materials now that the Justice Department has appointed a special counsel.

The special counsel, former FBI Director Robert Mueller, is overseeing an investigation into Russia's meddling in the election and whether there was any collusion with Trump associates.

[ducks]

Lying on a government document is a Felony.

again name me one person in congress that has not current or former

there is a reason congress approver rating is 18%

[spurraider21]

again name me one person in congress that has not current or former

there is a reason congress approver rating is 18%lying under oath or under penalty of perjury?

[ducks]

was Sessions was acting in his official capacity as a Senator that is the question
liberals say here no
others will say yes

[djohn2oo8]

again name me one person in congress that has not current or former

there is a reason congress approver rating is 18%

If you lie on your sF 86 you can lose your clearance and job.

[clambake]

treason!

[Trill Clinton]

best thread going on ST.

[clambake]

military coup!!!!

[djohn2oo8]

867468121652768769
:lmao

[TSA]

guys did you hear about that NYT article?

:lmao

[ducks]

Poll: 68 Percent Say Dems Haven't Accepted Trump as 'Legitimate'

[clambake]

Poll: 68 Percent Say Dems Haven't Accepted Trump as 'Legitimate'

legitimately going to jail!!!!

[TSA]

867506823921754112
If you have ever been through the clearance process it is serious shit.

Please tell us about your personal experiences :lmao

[TSA]

Felony

"Sessions initially listed a year's worth of meetings with foreign officials on the security clearance form, according to Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores. But she says he and his staff were then told by an FBI employee who assisted in filling out the form, known as the SF-86, that he didn't need to list dozens of meetings with foreign ambassadors that happened in his capacity as a senator."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/24/politics/jeff-sessions-russian-officials-meetings/index.html



Your account should already be killed since Jeff Sessions was never charged with obstruction of justice like you claimed he would be. Time to put up or shut up pussy.

Jeff Sessions will not be charged with a felony for failing to list dozens of meetings with foreign ambassadors that happened in his capacity as a senator.

If I'm right you kill your account. If I'm wrong I kill my account, and this is my last screen name so I'm gone for good. You still have Michael Jordan so if you decline this you are a giant pussy. We got a deal?

[DisAsTerBot]

Lmao bets to take your ball and go home.

[ducks]

[QUOTE=TSA;9030203]"Sessions initially listed a year's worth of meetings with foreign officials on the security clearance form, according to Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores. But she says he and his staff were then told by an FBI employee who assisted in filling out the form, known as the SF-86, that he didn't need to list dozens of meetings with foreign ambassadors that happened in his capacity as a senator."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/24/politics/jeff-sessions-russian-officials-meetings/index.html

[spurraider21]

Poll: 68 Percent Say Dems Haven't Accepted Trump as 'Legitimate'what a stupid poll :lol

instead of just polling democrats asking if they think trump is legitimate, they polled random people asking if they think democrats think he's legitimate :lmao

that would be like saying... Poll: 90% Say Republicans Are Racist

[TSA]

867488117879701504

:lmao

[TSA]

https://patribotics.blog/2017/05/22/mike-flynn-turns-on-trump-talks-to-fbi/amp/

Multiple sources with links to the intelligence and law enforcement communities say that Lt. Gen Mike Flynn has turned on Donald Trump, and has already had at least one lengthy interview with the FBI.

General Flynn has not been offered a deal as of yet, these sources say. They indicate that as of this writing Flynn has not been arrested. He would likely be offered a chance to surrender himself, sources report, when that time comes.

Sources with links to the Justice Department indicate that General Flynn has already been indicted. On Twitter, Claude Taylor exclusively reported on May 14th that an indictment against Flynn had been returned by a Grand Jury and that this indictment was sealed. I can further report that Flynn’s indictment is thought to be for his failure to register under FARA, the Foreign Agents’ Registration Act, for his lobbying for Turkey. Reporting by NBC of Grand Jury subpoenas in an investigation for which Flynn is the subject, sources say, cover separate offenses of Mike Flynn’s that are linked to Russia. These are being investigated under prosecutors at the Northern District of Virginia, with an attorney accustomed to handling espionage prosecutions.

Sources believe that General Mike “Misha” Flynn, to give him the Russian nickname he awarded himself when picked up by British intelligence committing treason in Cambridge, England, panicked when he heard that Special Counsel Robert Mueller had been appointed to head the investigation into Trump’s collusion with Russia.

Mike Flynn may also have interpreted Donald Trump’s text to him, ‘Stay Strong,’ on the day the subpoenas for evidence in the ongoing case against him were announced, as a threat. Sources believe that Flynn informed the FBI, and multiple other persons, of Trump’s text himself.

Separate sources with links to the intelligence community confirm our earlier reporting on how Mike Flynn co-ordinated Russia’s propaganda attack on the West on behalf of Trump, giving advice across Europe to far-right parties linked to the Russian state. These include, but are not limited to, UKIP, Marine Le Pen in France and a far-right party in Austria. Flynn regarded himself as a partisan of the Russian state, and his assistance in Russia’s messaging was not limited to hacking the American election, but in trying to boost Nazi ideology and Putin allies right across Europe. These sources state that Gen. Flynn could receive the death penalty for espionage for these activities, if charges are brought on the matter and he is found guilty.

Flynn is being decommissioned, sources say, meaning that he is telling the FBI what he knows. This is clearly very bad news for Donald Trump and all those around him who colluded with Russia. It may be particularly bad news for Vice-President Mike Pence, who is attempting, with little success, to disclaim knowledge of Flynn’s collusion with Russia.

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

TSA is melting down hard. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

TSA is melting down hard. :lol

pwHuEDCM7xs

[TSA]

867518207409745920

Jeff Sessions will not be charged with a felony for failing to list dozens of meetings with foreign ambassadors that happened in his capacity as a senator.

[djohn2oo8]

Jeff Sessions will not be charged with a felony for failing to list dozens of meetings with foreign ambassadors that happened in his capacity as a senator.

Failing to disclose those meetings is a felony.

[djohn2oo8]

Sessions, who met with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at least two times last year, didn't note those interactions on the form, which requires him to list "any contact" he or his family had with a "foreign government" or its "representatives" over the past seven years, officials said.

[djohn2oo8]

To obtain a security clearance, a federal official is not required to list the meetings if they were part of a foreign conference he or she attended while conducting government business. Sessions' meetings, however, do not appear to be tied to foreign conferences.

[djohn2oo8]

"My interpretation is that a member of Congress would still have to reveal the appropriate foreign government contacts notwithstanding it was on official business," said Mark Zaid, a Washington attorney who specializes in national security law.
Zaid added that in a similar circumstance he advised a member of Congress to list all foreign contacts -- including those made during official US government business

[TSA]

Failing to disclose those meetings is a felony.

He won't be charged with a felony for it, put your account on the line.

[djohn2oo8]

He won't be charged with a felony for it, put your account on the line.

I already have. We already know how these things go for you.

[TSA]

I already have. We already know how these things go for you. Last bet you lost to me on the Sessions obstruction of justice charge was a two month time frame, want to do the same time frame for this bet or add a few more months?

[djohn2oo8]

Last bet you lost to me on the Sessions obstruction of justice charge was a two month time frame, want to do the same time frame for this bet or add a few more months?

Last bet you lost, your account was taken. And you Welch ed. This time I will snatch ALL of your accounts.

[ducks]

The National Security Agency under former President Barack Obama frequently violated privacy protections while scouring through overseas intercepts – and failed to disclose the extent of the problems until late last fall, Circa reported Wednesday.

[djohn2oo8]

The National Security Agency under former President Barack Obama frequently violated privacy protections while scouring through overseas intercepts – and failed to disclose the extent of the problems until late last fall, Circa reported Wednesday.

"But Obama" :lmao

[ducks]

See all break rules

[Mitch]

"But Obama" :lmao

"Rules for thee, not for me"

[djohn2oo8]

See all break rules

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.clearancejobs.com/2016/04/02/consequences-lying-withholding-information-background-investigation/amp/

[spurraider21]

The National Security Agency under former President Barack Obama frequently violated privacy protections while scouring through overseas intercepts – and failed to disclose the extent of the problems until late last fall, Circa reported Wednesday.
fake news

[TSA]

Last bet you lost, your account was taken. And you Welch ed. This time I will snatch ALL of your accounts.

If my account was taken, that means I didn't welsh you stupid fuck :lol

Do you accept the new ELE bet yes or no?

[djohn2oo8]

If my account was taken, that means I didn't welsh you stupid fuck :lol

Do you accept the new ELE bet yes or no?

TSA covered both accounts. So yes you welched.

[TSA]

TSA covered both accounts. So yes you welched.

No it didn't and we've been over this numerous times. The only person who agreed with you was an actual welsher. This is all beyond the point and now you're just stalling.

Do you accept the new ELE bet yes or no?

[djohn2oo8]

No it didn't and we've been over this numerous times. The only person who agreed with you was an actual welsher. This is all beyond the point and now you're just stalling.

Do you accept the new ELE bet yes or no?

Yes it does. It is an abbreviation for your other account and it is literally the moniker of your account now :lol

[djohn2oo8]

TSA is lying on an SF 86 a felony? Bet your account right now.

[Reck]

TSA is a ****.

Of course he welched. TSA is an abreviation of TheSannityAnnex. Same name, same user.

Clear cut welching.

[djohn2oo8]

867699516895637504

lol

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

TSA is lying on an SF 86 a felony? Bet your account right now.

I'll take your word it's a felony but that wasn't the ELE bet you are trying to squirm out of.

Will Jeff Sessions be charged for that felony? Bet your account right now you pussy.

[RandomGuy]

See all break rules

The Trump Organization Says It's 'Not Practical' to Comply With the Emoluments Clause

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/trumps-company-isnt-tracking-all-the-money-it-gets-from-foreign-governments/527997/

What parts of the constitution is it ok for Trump to ignore?

[TSA]

djohn2oo8 :rollin

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:lmao just kill your account now djohn you're finished :lmao

[DisAsTerBot]

Cool he can just log out and start posting as dj08

[TSA]

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:lmao

[TSA]

djohn2oo8 what are your thoughts on your boy John Schindler aka @ 20committee's dick pics?

Remember John Schindler, the conservative talking head, retired NSA spook, and Naval War College professor who briefly went incognito after screenshots of (what appear to be) his penis leaked onto the Internet? While he has since reappeared on Twitter—where he first drew attention for defending domestic spying and criticizing Edward Snowden—he has refused to comment on the mysterious emails, sent to the Naval War College by an unnamed blogger, that prompted the school to place him on leave, and his penis under official investigation.

http://blackbag.gawker.com/the-crazy-emails-that-took-down-nsa-spook-john-schindle-1610203101

[RandomGuy]

There are more facts to support this theory than the Russians colluded with Trump to steal the election.

"more facts".

Interesting turn of phrase.

Facts aren't like basketball scores. Not all facts are created equal.

This is the way conspiracy theorists work. They think of fact after fact after fact after fact, and throw them at the wall to see what sticks, while completely ignoring the one or two things that make their pet theory fatally flawed.

If something is falsified, its falsified. It only really takes one good fact to do that.

I realize I may be making a bit much out of a small phrase here, but thought it worth making that distinction.

[Galileo]

I will be on the Mitch Henck show today at 5pm central to discuss Trump, Trump, Trump, and terrorism.

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[TSA]

"more facts".

Interesting turn of phrase.

Facts aren't like basketball scores. Not all facts are created equal.

This is the way conspiracy theorists work. They think of fact after fact after fact after fact, and throw them at the wall to see what sticks, while completely ignoring the one or two things that make their pet theory fatally flawed.

If something is falsified, its falsified. It only really takes one good fact to do that.

I realize I may be making a bit much out of a small phrase here, but thought it worth making that distinction.

This is the way Trump/Russia conspiracy theorists work. They think of fact after fact after fact after fact, and throw them at the wall to see what sticks, while completely ignoring the one or two things that make their pet theory fatally flawed.

[RandomGuy]

This is the way Trump/Russia conspiracy theorists work. They think of fact after fact after fact after fact, and throw them at the wall to see what sticks, while completely ignoring the one or two things that make their pet theory fatally flawed.

The old "I'm rubber and you're glue" schtick. You can claim it is flawed all you like. The facts will out, as they always do.

[RandomGuy]

WASHINGTON — Michael T. Flynn, President Trump’s former national security adviser, was paid over $65,000 by companies linked to Russia in 2015, according to a letter released on Thursday by congressional investigators.

Among the companies was a cargo airline implicated in a bribery scheme involving Russian officials at the United Nations, an American branch of a cybersecurity firm believed to have ties to Russia’s intelligence services, and RT, the Russian government’s English language TV channel, according to the letter, which was sent to Mr. Trump on Thursday by Representative Elijah E. Cummings, a Maryland Democrat. Mr. Cummings is the ranking member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/16/us/politics/michael-flynn-russia-paid-trip.html

Flynn took money from Russian companies. He didn't disclose this. That much is simple and easily proven. It has the added bonus of being falsifiable, one of the key elements of "baloney" detection noted by Sagans list.

[RandomGuy]

The Turkish man who gave Mike Flynn a $600,000 lobbying deal just before President Donald Trump picked him to be national security adviser has business ties to Russia, including a 2009 aviation financing deal negotiated with Vladimir Putin, according to court records.

The man, Ekim Alptekin, has in recent years helped to coordinate Turkish lobbying in Washington with Dmitri “David” Zaikin, a Soviet-born former executive in Russian energy and mining companies who also has had dealings with Putin’s government, according to three people with direct knowledge of the activities.


This unusual arrangement, in which Alptekin and Zaikin have helped steer Turkish lobbying through various groups since at least 2015, raises questions about both the agenda of the two men and the source of the funds used to pay the lobbyists.

Although Turkey is a NATO ally, its president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has grown increasingly authoritarian and friendly with Putin. And the hiring of Flynn by Alptekin came at a time when Flynn was working for Trump’s campaign and Putin’s government was under investigation for interfering with the U.S. election.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/25/michael-flynn-turkey-russia-237550

Further Flynn got a LOT of money to Lobby for Turkey.

[RandomGuy]

President Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn wrote an op-ed on Election Day calling for the U.S. to kick out an anti-government Turkish cleric without disclosing he was being paid by a firm linked to the Turkish government, according to documents newly filed with the Justice Department.

POLITICO reported in November that Flynn's consulting firm, Flynn Intel Group, was lobbying for a Dutch consulting firm with ties to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The new documents confirm that Flynn lobbied for the Turkish-linked firm, Inovo BV, before and immediately after the election. They also reveal that Flynn’s firm secretly met with the Turkish foreign and energy ministers in New York less than two months before the election. According to Inovo’s founder, Kamil Ekim Alptekin, the meeting was with Flynn himself.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/michael-flynn-lobby-turkey-235843

So, Flynn pushed for US policies that Turkey's government wanted after having been given money, by... Turkish interests.


Nasty thing that conflict of interest, isn't it?

Even if an action may otherwise be innocuous, you create an environment where these kinds of questions destroy your credibility.

[boutons_deux]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/michael-flynn-lobby-turkey-235843

So, Flynn pushed for US policies that Turkey's government wanted after having been given money, by... Turkish interests.


Nasty thing that conflict of interest, isn't it?

Even if an action may otherwise be innocuous, you create an environment where these kinds of questions destroy your credibility.

Flynn was corrupted by Turks who used Russian money.

[RandomGuy]

Flynn, for his part has dissembled on the subject.


Flynn’s lawyer, Robert Kelner, declined to comment. In a filing with the Justice Department, Flynn said he relied on assurances from Alptekin that he was not directly or indirectly funded by a foreign government. But shifting explanations and a web of business ties raise questions about the arrangement.

Flynn has offered evolving accounts of his lobbying work for Alptekin. In September, Flynn reported his client as a Dutch shell company owned by Alptekin. After being forced to leave the White House — reportedly because he lied to Vice President Mike Pence about his conversations during the transition with the Russian ambassador — Flynn filed new paperwork in March acknowledging that his lobbying work “principally benefitted” the Turkish government.

"I promise I am not funded by a foreign government".

Okaaay.

[RandomGuy]

But Alptekin acknowledged that he has attended events and met with leaders of the Turkish Heritage Organization, a Washington-based group of Turkish-Americans loyal to Erdogan. The organization was started when Zaikin asked a Washington-based international political consultant named John Moreira to help set it up, Moreira told POLITICO.

Asked why Zaikin — who is not Turkish and has no apparent ties to Turkey — would be organizing a Turkish heritage organization, Moreira said he thought Zaikin had Turkish friends and business associates.

“I don’t know who David was working for. He just asked me to do this,” Moreira said.

I would point out that Russia has been courting Turkey (despite the shoot-down of the fighter), as a way to weaken NATO, a very high Putin priority.

This smacks of a quid-pro-quo.
Russia to Turkey: "I will help you get the policies you want from the US"
Turkey: "Why thank you very much, I am now in your favor".

It is a fact that the Russian government wants to get rid of NATO, and is doing whatever is in its power to weaken the organization.

Start here with an OP-ed piece that pretty clearly outlines what the Russians think:
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/389685-brussels-security-trump-nato/
'NATO, an American-made mechanism for geopolitical control of Europe'

I have read dozens of articles on this, and their own position is crystal clear.

[RandomGuy]

Flynn was corrupted by Turks who used Russian money.


Asked why Zaikin — who is not Turkish and has no apparent ties to Turkey — would be organizing a Turkish heritage organization, Moreira said he thought Zaikin had Turkish friends and business associates.

Dimitri Zaikin wasn't even Turkish.

[TSA]

WASHINGTON — When Special Agent Adrian Hawkins of the Federal Bureau of Investigation called the Democratic National Committee in September 2015 to pass along some troubling news about its computer network, he was transferred, naturally, to the help desk.

His message was brief, if alarming. At least one computer system belonging to the D.N.C. had been compromised by hackers federal investigators had named “the Dukes,” a cyberespionage team linked to the Russian government.

The F.B.I. knew it well: The bureau had spent the last few years trying to kick the Dukes out of the unclassified email systems of the White House, the State Department and even the Joint Chiefs of Staff, one of the government’s best-protected networks.

Yared Tamene, the tech-support contractor at the D.N.C. who fielded the call, was no expert in cyberattacks. His first moves were to check Google for “the Dukes” and conduct a cursory search of the D.N.C. computer system logs to look for hints of such a cyberintrusion. By his own account, he did not look too hard even after Special Agent Hawkins called back repeatedly over the next several weeks — in part because he wasn’t certain the caller was a real F.B.I. agent and not an impostor.

Doesn't sound like Hawkins was relying on Crowdstrikes after action report.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/u...ction-dnc.html

[RandomGuy]

Flynn was corrupted by Turks who used Russian money.


In the 2000s, Zaikin was an executive in Russia’s oil industry at a time when Putin was consolidating control over the country’s mineral wealth to the financial benefit of himself and the circle of oligarchs who are his key supporters and associates.

As chairman and CEO of a company called Siberian Energy Group, Zaikin obtained mineral interests and exploration licenses in Russia’s Kurgan province, according to filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Zaikin wasn't even Turkish.

[RandomGuy]

Alptekin acknowledged ETIRC’s negotiations with the bank chaired by Putin, but said he never interacted with any Russian officials. There are no Russians involved in the new company, he said.

Today, that company, known as EA Group, markets Eclipse jets in Turkey, Russia and the Middle East, according to its website. But Alptekin, in his POLITICO interview, said he lost the license to market the jets in Russia because he failed to sell any.

The company also has an arms-dealing division, focusing on Turkey and the Middle East. Alptekin said he sold video surveillance equipment for Turkish police helicopters and declined to discuss his other deals. He said the arms division isn’t active currently.

In his Justice Department filings, Flynn said the lobbying work he did for Alptekin focused on pressuring the U.S. to hand over Fethullah Gulen, a Turkish cleric living in Pennsylvania whom Erdogan claims is trying to overthrow him.

The lobbying work that Alptekin and Zaikin helped organize on behalf of Turkish groups also focused on Gulen.


Zaikin did not sign checks or contracts — the K Street firms were hired through the Turkish Heritage Organization and another nonprofit called the Turkish Institute for Progress, according to lobbying disclosure records. Zaikin also asked Moreira to help set up the Turkish Institute for Progress, Moreira said.

But the firms sometimes sent invoices to one of Zaikin’s companies, Key Elements Group in London, according to people with direct knowledge of the dealings. Zaikin dissolved the company in December, according to British corporate records.

Dissolved in December. Almost as if he is covering his tracks. I wonder what document I read recently stated that the Russians started covering their tracks?

[TSA]

RandomGuy I asked for proof of Trump/Russian collusion not Mike Flynn's lobbying efforts.

[TSA]

WASHINGTON — When Special Agent Adrian Hawkins of the Federal Bureau of Investigation called the Democratic National Committee in September 2015 to pass along some troubling news about its computer network, he was transferred, naturally, to the help desk.

His message was brief, if alarming. At least one computer system belonging to the D.N.C. had been compromised by hackers federal investigators had named “the Dukes,” a cyberespionage team linked to the Russian government.

The F.B.I. knew it well: The bureau had spent the last few years trying to kick the Dukes out of the unclassified email systems of the White House, the State Department and even the Joint Chiefs of Staff, one of the government’s best-protected networks.

Yared Tamene, the tech-support contractor at the D.N.C. who fielded the call, was no expert in cyberattacks. His first moves were to check Google for “the Dukes” and conduct a cursory search of the D.N.C. computer system logs to look for hints of such a cyberintrusion. By his own account, he did not look too hard even after Special Agent Hawkins called back repeatedly over the next several weeks — in part because he wasn’t certain the caller was a real F.B.I. agent and not an impostor.
https://www.secalliance.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/SCA_063-Blog-V01.jpg

The “problem of attribution” in the context of Cyber is not a new one, but it receives a relatively small share of coverage. When a high-profile breach is attributed to nation-state actors, the focus is often on the potential motivations and implications of the attack. While this is a worthwhile topic, attribution of the attack itself is equally – arguably even more – important. After all, attribution forms the basic assumption underlying any discussion of why an attack occurred and what it portends. When this is applied to a state-sponsored attack, this ceases to be a matter of idle speculation and becomes one of national security or foreign policy – as evidenced by the following quote:
“We know that Russian intelligence services hacked into the DNC and we know that they arranged for a lot of those emails to be released and we know that Donald Trump has shown a very troubling willingness to back up Putin, to support Putin.”
This strangely authoritative statement from Secretary of State and presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, was made in the wake of the DNC leaks published by WikiLeaks in July of this year.
Nation-State Actors
A number of authoritative statements of attribution have been made by reputable infosec firms such as CrowdStrike and FireEye. FireEye, in particular, attributed the attack to APT28, a group that they wrote a comprehensive threat profile about in 2014. In this report, it is stated that various targets were identified but were not included because they are “not particularly indicative of a specific sponsor’s interests.” Other firms identified a number of other unrelated targets, such as web services, energy companies and telecommunications providers.
Besides a few relatively inconclusive indicators, such as the presence of Russian language settings in malware samples, the profile of APT28 constructed in this original report relies largely on circumstantial evidence – such as the targeting of Eastern European, including Georgian, government authorities. The problem with this is, as we have already established, this report explicitly disregards targets that do not seem to indicate sponsorship by a nation-state. From the outset, the question being asked is not “who did this?” but “which nation-state did this?”. The framing of this question produces an obvious – though not necessarily correct – answer.
While attacks on Georgia, Eastern Europe and NATO seem damning when presented together, the report discards data points which do not confirm a specific narrative. This becomes more troubling in light of the fact that Mandiant (a firm owned by FireEye) asserts about the DNC hack that “the malware and associated servers are consistent with those previously used by APT 28”. If the evidence for APT28 being a Russian state-sponsored actor is, in effect, a few pieces of easily falsified metadata and some circumstantial and inconclusive evidence, we do not have anywhere near enough confidence to be able to make statements like Secretary Clinton’s.

The Burden of Proof
The underlying problem is a lack of accountability: an attribution claim might be made with strong confidence based on closed-source intelligence, but this does not change the fact that the information available to the community is inconclusive. The community as a whole can only work with the information that is available; if you ask us to accept that Russia hacked the DNC based on public intelligence of dubious conclusiveness and private intelligence that is unavailable for public review, the result is a faith-based process without accountability or transparency. Attribution claims are inherently difficult to disprove for the same reasons they are difficult to prove – and once such a claim is made by a reputable organisation, they are not responsible for how it is interpreted by the media.
Even reputable companies, such as FireEye, are not infallible; the $81 million Bangladesh bank heist of this year is proof of this. Initially attributed to North Korea because of similarities to the 2014 Sony breach, some reports now link the incident to Eastern-European gangs associated with Dridex. Attribution to a specific nation-state can easily be made by drawing parallels to previous attacks, but what do you do when an attack contains identifying characteristics from two separate threat actors? Pick one? Conclude there were two different breaches? Or provide detailed analysis with responsible terminology?
This question is easily answered when you consider the possibility that there is significant cooperation between these actors – but this is an inconvenient assessment, because it muddies the waters of attribution. If tools and software related both to the Dridex gang and North Korean actors appears in the same attack, it makes attributing either of those actors more difficult in the future – and calls into question any previous attribution to either of these groups.
Attribution is very much an art, and one that necessitates an unfortunate amount of guesswork. The impossibility of conclusively attributing an attack to a specific actor – or, in some cases, even identifying specific actors – does not mean that we should not attempt to correlate the information about attacks with each other. But it is important to only state as truth what is known to be true; discarding inconvenient data as ‘anomalous’ in nature is not only counter-productive, but dangerous. It can lead to a “house of cards” effect: if the initial assumptions are flawed, then each layer built on them is undermined.
We can counteract this simply by communicating and sharing our analyses: as much as possible, as frequently and efficiently as possible. Guesswork and speculation should be accepted – but also challenged and qualified at every opportunity. The narrative that arises from this discourse will be richer, more nuanced and ultimately more valuable to the intelligence community. Only by cultivating accountability can we replace black-box reporting with informed, critical analysis.

https://www.secalliance.com/blog/the-usual-suspects-faith-based-attribution-and-its-effects-on-the-security-community/

[RandomGuy]

RandomGuy I asked for proof of Trump/Russian collusion not Mike Flynn's lobbying efforts.

Flynn's lobbying efforts form one of the key facts in presenting that proof.

They aren't mutually exclusive.

Be happy to stop and move on to the next point if you want to cede that Russians were getting their hooks into Flynn, if not there already.

[clambake]

Flynn's lobbying efforts form one of the key facts in presenting that proof.

They aren't mutually exclusive.

Be happy to stop and move on to the next point if you want to cede that Russians were getting their hooks into Flynn, if not there already.

yeah, but thats easy.

flynn is a cheap hooker.

[TSA]

Guccifer 2.0 - DCLeaks - APT 28

By Adam Carter --- April 17th, 2017

The DCLeaks - APT 28 Attribution

DCLeaks was a site established last year, at the beginning of June (with the domain initially registered on April 19th). Initially, it began publishing leaks covering emails from members of the US government and military.

APT28 (also known as: Fancy Bear, Pawn Storm, Sofacy, Sednit and STRONTIUM) is a name given to an "Active Persistent Threat" group discovered in October of 2014 and thought to have been operational for anything up to a decade prior to this. - The "APT28" designation is effectively a collective term for the group and all of the Internet infrastructure they make use of. APT28 is considered by various cyber-security firms to be linked to the Russian military intelligence agency GRU.

In the first quarter of 2016, a breach at the DNC was reported by CrowdStrike (a cyber-security firm hired by the DNC). In that report, CrowdStrike essentially blamed APT28 for the hack.

In August of 2016, ThreatConnect reported that, following their own investigations, It appeared that the DCLeaks.com domain was initially handled by a nameserver that only had 14 other domain names resolving to it and was a nameserver for a domain suspected as being a part of APT28 (service-yandex.ru), as well as phishing/scam domains set up by others not deemed part of APT28).

Other examples cited included things like DCLeaks using a free webmail service to initially register their domain (via the "@europe.com" domain, operated by 1&1) and it is noted that "@europe.com" was the same free webmail provider that was used by whoever registered a dodgy 'misdepartment' domain (which was attributed to a phishing attack considered to originate from APT28).

So it seemed there was at least some overlap on service providers and name servers historically (if the assumptions/suspicions of various domains being part of APT28 are correct).

Certainly the overlaps are noteworthy, it does seem to hint that there could easily be an association between them, but... even if domains suspected of being a part of APT28 have used the same service providers or name servers that DCLeaks started using at a later date - it's not proof of a direct link between them and relies to a degree on guilt-by-assocation.

However, whether you are or aren't convinced by the DCLeaks-APT28 attributions, there is another association in the chain that needs scrutiny.



The DCLeaks 'Leadership' - Guccifer 2.0 Attribution

On 27 June, 12 days after its initial appearance, Guccifer2.0 shared a password with the press that gave access to an area on DCLeaks listing leaks (mundane emails from Sarah Hamilton, apparently from a phishing attack she fell victim to).

As The Smoking Gun (TSG) concedes in their reporting, it's clear the password given them by Guccifer 2.0 gave limited access to the site. However, when TSG later inquired about leaks in a different (and 'protected' section of the site). DCLeaks, independently, seemed quite happy to release a password to TSG on the condition they'd write a story about the leaks.

Examples of links to the leadership given by ThreatConnect follow:

Guccifer 2.0 has not publicly mentioned or promoted DCLeaks. Only in private communications with TSG does Guccifer 2.0 reveal prior knowledge of DCLeaks.
If you're communicating apparent controversy with a well known publisher AND know that you're going to be revealed as a "Russian hacker" due to fabricated evidence you've planted there is no reason to expect it to remain a "private communication" for long. Instead, it becomes an attribution that would be expected to become public knowledge sooner or later.

Guccifer 2.0 is the first known entity to have prior knowledge of and privileged access to exclusive content (Sarah Hamilton Emails) on the DCLeaks webpage before it was publicly available.

If Guccifer 2.0 was also the uploader of the content - that would make perfect sense and if Guccifer 2.0 is a covert effort to poison-the-well of whistle blowers and leak sites (an extension of its apparent purpose to discredit Wikileaks as its actions on June 15th reveal it to be) - it would explain how the emails could have been sourced (internally) for the sake of forging a perceived attribution with DCLeaks.

Guccifer 2.0 claimed that DCLeaks is a Wikileaks subproject where there is no public evidence of any formal or informal relationships between DCLeaks and Wikileaks.

This of course adds credence to what I suggest above: that this was an extension of the effort to discredit Wikileaks and create false attribution in an effort to discredit leakers and whistle-blowers, tainting everything with an association to its faux-"Russian hacker" persona.

So... we've got a password for a section of the site that Guccifer 2.0 could have been provided and could have been the source of the content for.

While this certainly shows he communicated with DCLeaks before his email on 27th of June and had a password to access a portion of the site - what was there that specifically could link him to the administration or leadership of the DCLeaks site to a greater degree than a leak contributor?

To really see how tenuous the link between Guccifer2 and DCLeaks is we have to take a detour through a separate hacking incident in Florida and this is where things start to get strange...



BadWolf/Badvolf, DCLeaks & Guccifer 2.0

If you haven't heard of BadWolf/BadVolf you won't know that BadWolf was someone linked to a site critical of Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office under Ric Bradshaw on the domain "PBSOTalk.com" (a site originally founded by Mark Dougan, Ric Bradshaw's former deputy).

Following a raid on Mark Dougan and covering BadWolf's involvement, Gawker, reported the following in March 2016:

The agents were apparently there to investigate the recent hacking of thousands of names and addresses of law enforcement officers and others living in Palm Beach and Miami-Dade counties, which were published last month on a website founded by Dougan. A significant portion of the targeted individuals were FBI agents themselves. A few days after the first of these hacks, the local press reported that the sheriff’s office was launching an official investigation. One strange detail in those reports stuck out: The suspected hacker was apparently located in Russia, 5,000 miles from the beachfront county he targeted.

The man who claims to be responsible calls himself БадВолф, or BadWolf to his English-speaking friends and enemies. He lives in Moscow, where he works in IT for a local government agency (he won’t say which), and is alternately puckish and self-righteous when describing his strikes against American law enforcement. He says he lifted the Palm Beach names and addresses from a database maintained by the county property appraiser and published it as retaliation against the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office, which he believes is a deeply corrupt institution. The Miami-Dade address dump, which was published weeks later, also appears to target the PBSO
So, it would seem, a Russian hacker, working in a local government agency, going by the name of BadWolf had hacked into databases and posted them to Dougan's site.

Fast forward to September 25th, 2016 - PBSOTalk.com has since been taken down following the FBI investigating and apparently resurrected as PBSOTalk.ru (however, the contact details are private and no longer associated to the original domain's registrant, see below).

ORIGINAL PBSOTALK.COM DOMAIN REGISTRANT:
Name: Alexey drobyshev
Company: Drobyshev Intl
Address: M.Kutuzova 7, #.207, Moscow, Moscow, 143080, Russian Federation
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 79019035319
Databreaches.net reports that a new leak claim is posted to PBSOTalk.ru, this time relating to the Florida Bar Association. However, it seems specious, lacks the data that it claims is being leaked, the method of proving access is odd and the Florida Bar Association disagree strongly with the notion they were hacked.

Following this, 'Dissent' of databreaches.net spoke with BadVolf and in that conversation, the evidence (in the form of MP4 videos, a screengrab of which is featured below) that he provides regarding the hack claims suggest he's the root administrator of DCLeaks, not only that but Guccifer 2.0 apparently appears during their conversation.


Guccifer 2.0 - DCLeaks - APT 28

By Adam Carter --- April 17th, 2017

The DCLeaks - APT 28 Attribution

DCLeaks was a site established last year, at the beginning of June (with the domain initially registered on April 19th). Initially, it began publishing leaks covering emails from members of the US government and military.

APT28 (also known as: Fancy Bear, Pawn Storm, Sofacy, Sednit and STRONTIUM) is a name given to an "Active Persistent Threat" group discovered in October of 2014 and thought to have been operational for anything up to a decade prior to this. - The "APT28" designation is effectively a collective term for the group and all of the Internet infrastructure they make use of. APT28 is considered by various cyber-security firms to be linked to the Russian military intelligence agency GRU.

In the first quarter of 2016, a breach at the DNC was reported by CrowdStrike (a cyber-security firm hired by the DNC). In that report, CrowdStrike essentially blamed APT28 for the hack.

In August of 2016, ThreatConnect reported that, following their own investigations, It appeared that the DCLeaks.com domain was initially handled by a nameserver that only had 14 other domain names resolving to it and was a nameserver for a domain suspected as being a part of APT28 (service-yandex.ru), as well as phishing/scam domains set up by others not deemed part of APT28).

Other examples cited included things like DCLeaks using a free webmail service to initially register their domain (via the "@europe.com" domain, operated by 1&1) and it is noted that "@europe.com" was the same free webmail provider that was used by whoever registered a dodgy 'misdepartment' domain (which was attributed to a phishing attack considered to originate from APT28).

So it seemed there was at least some overlap on service providers and name servers historically (if the assumptions/suspicions of various domains being part of APT28 are correct).

Certainly the overlaps are noteworthy, it does seem to hint that there could easily be an association between them, but... even if domains suspected of being a part of APT28 have used the same service providers or name servers that DCLeaks started using at a later date - it's not proof of a direct link between them and relies to a degree on guilt-by-assocation.

However, whether you are or aren't convinced by the DCLeaks-APT28 attributions, there is another association in the chain that needs scrutiny.



The DCLeaks 'Leadership' - Guccifer 2.0 Attribution

On 27 June, 12 days after its initial appearance, Guccifer2.0 shared a password with the press that gave access to an area on DCLeaks listing leaks (mundane emails from Sarah Hamilton, apparently from a phishing attack she fell victim to).



As The Smoking Gun (TSG) concedes in their reporting, it's clear the password given them by Guccifer 2.0 gave limited access to the site. However, when TSG later inquired about leaks in a different (and 'protected' section of the site). DCLeaks, independently, seemed quite happy to release a password to TSG on the condition they'd write a story about the leaks.

Examples of links to the leadership given by ThreatConnect follow:

Guccifer 2.0 has not publicly mentioned or promoted DCLeaks. Only in private communications with TSG does Guccifer 2.0 reveal prior knowledge of DCLeaks.
If you're communicating apparent controversy with a well known publisher AND know that you're going to be revealed as a "Russian hacker" due to fabricated evidence you've planted there is no reason to expect it to remain a "private communication" for long. Instead, it becomes an attribution that would be expected to become public knowledge sooner or later.

Guccifer 2.0 is the first known entity to have prior knowledge of and privileged access to exclusive content (Sarah Hamilton Emails) on the DCLeaks webpage before it was publicly available.

If Guccifer 2.0 was also the uploader of the content - that would make perfect sense and if Guccifer 2.0 is a covert effort to poison-the-well of whistle blowers and leak sites (an extension of its apparent purpose to discredit Wikileaks as its actions on June 15th reveal it to be) - it would explain how the emails could have been sourced (internally) for the sake of forging a perceived attribution with DCLeaks.

Guccifer 2.0 claimed that DCLeaks is a Wikileaks subproject where there is no public evidence of any formal or informal relationships between DCLeaks and Wikileaks.

This of course adds credence to what I suggest above: that this was an extension of the effort to discredit Wikileaks and create false attribution in an effort to discredit leakers and whistle-blowers, tainting everything with an association to its faux-"Russian hacker" persona.

So... we've got a password for a section of the site that Guccifer 2.0 could have been provided and could have been the source of the content for.

While this certainly shows he communicated with DCLeaks before his email on 27th of June and had a password to access a portion of the site - what was there that specifically could link him to the administration or leadership of the DCLeaks site to a greater degree than a leak contributor?

To really see how tenuous the link between Guccifer2 and DCLeaks is we have to take a detour through a separate hacking incident in Florida and this is where things start to get strange...



BadWolf/Badvolf, DCLeaks & Guccifer 2.0

If you haven't heard of BadWolf/BadVolf you won't know that BadWolf was someone linked to a site critical of Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office under Ric Bradshaw on the domain "PBSOTalk.com" (a site originally founded by Mark Dougan, Ric Bradshaw's former deputy).

Following a raid on Mark Dougan and covering BadWolf's involvement, Gawker, reported the following in March 2016:

The agents were apparently there to investigate the recent hacking of thousands of names and addresses of law enforcement officers and others living in Palm Beach and Miami-Dade counties, which were published last month on a website founded by Dougan. A significant portion of the targeted individuals were FBI agents themselves. A few days after the first of these hacks, the local press reported that the sheriff’s office was launching an official investigation. One strange detail in those reports stuck out: The suspected hacker was apparently located in Russia, 5,000 miles from the beachfront county he targeted.

The man who claims to be responsible calls himself БадВолф, or BadWolf to his English-speaking friends and enemies. He lives in Moscow, where he works in IT for a local government agency (he won’t say which), and is alternately puckish and self-righteous when describing his strikes against American law enforcement. He says he lifted the Palm Beach names and addresses from a database maintained by the county property appraiser and published it as retaliation against the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office, which he believes is a deeply corrupt institution. The Miami-Dade address dump, which was published weeks later, also appears to target the PBSO
So, it would seem, a Russian hacker, working in a local government agency, going by the name of BadWolf had hacked into databases and posted them to Dougan's site.

Fast forward to September 25th, 2016 - PBSOTalk.com has since been taken down following the FBI investigating and apparently resurrected as PBSOTalk.ru (however, the contact details are private and no longer associated to the original domain's registrant, see below).

ORIGINAL PBSOTALK.COM DOMAIN REGISTRANT:
Name: Alexey drobyshev
Company: Drobyshev Intl
Address: M.Kutuzova 7, #.207, Moscow, Moscow, 143080, Russian Federation
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 79019035319
Databreaches.net reports that a new leak claim is posted to PBSOTalk.ru, this time relating to the Florida Bar Association. However, it seems specious, lacks the data that it claims is being leaked, the method of proving access is odd and the Florida Bar Association disagree strongly with the notion they were hacked.

Following this, 'Dissent' of databreaches.net spoke with BadVolf and in that conversation, the evidence (in the form of MP4 videos, a screengrab of which is featured below) that he provides regarding the hack claims suggest he's the root administrator of DCLeaks, not only that but Guccifer 2.0 apparently appears during their conversation.


source: www.databreaches.net

As 'Dissent' explains in the article (emphasis mine):

Unsurprisingly, I asked for some proof. But when BadVolf attempted to provide me with copies of all the emails – including, he said, emails that had not yet appeared on WikiLeaks, he was unable to do so, and said he needed to contact Guccifer2.0, who, to my surprise, showed up in our chat to provide a new link where I was able to download everything. But there was nothing in what I downloaded that hadn’t already appeared on WikiLeaks. Despite repeated requests, I was not given any material that might have proved I was dealing with those who had had access to Clinton’s email server or Democrats.org
and later:

why couldn’t BadVolf provide me with the kind of proof requested to prove that he had access to DCLeaks? BadVolf’s explanation – that he was the database guy and not the web server guy, was not totally convincing to those who reviewed the mp4 files he provided.
This descends into madness with Guccifer 2.0 and BadVolf providing what they claim are login details from the DNC but these logins date from before the DNC hack was detected and passwords changed (so they were passwords that couldn't be verified!)

According to them, Hillary Clinton's passwords included "LeadTheSheeple2016" and Bill was using "Saxaphone1994%" as his password.

It also turns out that the BadVolf, in this instance, claimed to work for an Insurance company rather than work in a local government agency (as previously claimed before the FBI raid on Dougan, the domain being seized and the FBI investigating)



Conclusion: Conflation Confusion

So... we've got the fact Guccifer 2.0 had a password to the Sarah Hamilton leaks on DCLeaks (which he could have been provided and may have been responsible for uploading content to) and we have a bizarre theatrical performance using multimedia props that BadWolf/BadVolf (or a BadWolf imposter) and Guccifer 2.0 seem to have put on for the benefit of databreaches.net

Do BadWolf, Guccifer 2.0 and the MP4s prove DCLeaks-Guccifer2.0 collusion? - No, they demonstrate yet another example of trying to bamboozle reporters with easily fabricated materials and, as the databreaches article reports, fail to actually demonstrate a genuine breach of access through any independently verifiable means, coming up with excuses when such evidence is requested.

Do either of these things prove any definitive ties between Guccifer 2.0 and the DCLeaks.com site's leadership beyond Guccifer 2.0 providing uncontroversial Hamilton leaks? - No, of course not!

So... are either of these things proof that Guccifer 2.0 is linked to APT 28? - It doesn't seem so.

We can just see that during September, there was an apparent effort to create a perception of an association by someone (possibly 2 people) making specious claims, lacking verifiable evidence and only capable of producing evidence in a format that is very easy to fabricate..

Fortunately, in this instance, 'Dissent' was more savvy than some other journalists had been and instead of reporting this as a believable incident with credible hackers, the whole incident was reported as the bizarre & questionable performance that it was.

NOTE: Because of how unusual the whole databreaches.net incident seems, I have sent further inquiries to 'Dissent' and will update this article with any new & relevant information he can provide.

http://g-2.space/dcl/

[ducks]

Elections have consequences, you lost" Barack Obama 2009
Bernie had his shot at Trump stolen from him by Cackles Clinton and Debbie Washingmachine and yet he calls the GOP "grotesquely immoral"??
Under Obama the Democrats lost 900 state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats, the Oval Office and now the Supreme Court. They are on the verge of extinction and still lashing out at Trump. It's laughable

[TSA]

Flynn, for his part has dissembled on the subject.



"I promise I am not funded by a foreign government".

Okaaay.

It seems to be the common answer

"Lobbying powerhouse the Podesta Group filed paperwork with the Justice Department today acknowledging that its work years ago for a European nonprofit benefited the same Ukrainian political party once advised by Paul Manafort, who later ran Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.

The filings, obtained by POLITICO, appear to clean up the firm’s requirement to disclose its role in foreign lobbying that Manafort reportedly orchestrated. The Podesta Group said it believed its client was an unaffiliated European think tank. But the new paperwork suggests the Justice Department has information tying the think tank to the pro-Russian Ukrainian Party of Regions — a possible source of continuing legal trouble for Manafort, because he never disclosed his own role in the lobbying campaign."

[TSA]

Flynn's lobbying efforts form one of the key facts in presenting that proof.

They aren't mutually exclusive.

Be happy to stop and move on to the next point if you want to cede that Russians were getting their hooks into Flynn, if not there already.Do Podesta's lobbying efforts on behalf of the pro-Russian Ukrainian think tank show proof of collusion with Russia? Were the Podesta's trying to hide something since they, like Mike Flynn, also filed retroactively as a foreign agent?

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Lobbying powerhouse the Podesta Group filed paperwork with the Justice Department today acknowledging that its work years ago for a European nonprofit benefited the same Ukrainian political party once advised by Paul Manafort, who later ran Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.

The filings, obtained by POLITICO, appear to clean up the firm’s requirement to disclose its role in foreign lobbying that Manafort reportedly orchestrated. The Podesta Group said it believed its client was an unaffiliated European think tank. But the new paperwork suggests the Justice Department has information tying the think tank to the pro-Russian Ukrainian Party of Regions — a possible source of continuing legal trouble for Manafort, because he never disclosed his own role in the lobbying campaign.

While violating FARA is a criminal offense, the Justice Department typically seeks to resolve problems by bringing lobbyists into compliance rather than bringing charges. Last November, the Podesta Group updated its disclosures about lobbying work for India after contacts between its chairman, Tony Podesta, and his brother, Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, surfaced in the latter’s hacked emails. More recently, Michael Flynn, Trump’s short-lived national security adviser, retroactively disclosed lobbying that benefited the government of Turkey after initially filing under the LDA instead of FARA.

[boutons_deux]

This is a Flynn, Trash, etc, thread.

If you want to deflect, habitually, to Podesta, then start a Podesta thread and convict him.

All you are saying in Flynn's defense is that he is as bad as Podesta. Typical rightwingnut "defense".

Hillary's emails! :lol

Benghazi! :lol

Baby eating! :lol

[TSA]

This is a Flynn, Trash, etc, thread.

If you want to deflect, habitually, to Podesta, then start a Podesta thread and convict him.

All you are saying in Flynn's defense is that he is as bad as Podesta. Typical rightwingnut "defense".

Hillary's emails! :lol

Benghazi! :lol

Baby eating! :lol

:lol the king of off topic spam in the wrong thread wants to play forum cop :lol

[TSA]

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867799108345638912

:lmao

[Adam Lambert]

watching tsa lol at leftist conspiracy nut bags is like watching christians lol about how crazy and improbable other religions are

[TSA]

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867829019999444992

867834024215162880

If true...... :lmao djohn2oo8

[Spurminator]

"Verified Public Facebook Post"

Must be true then. Who would have any reason to doubt Milo?

[TSA]

867830142365614080

867830661545041921

867831170142269440

867832143141101571

867832756545441792

:rollin

[TSA]

866140527476867072

865124404233220097

[TSA]

"Verified Public Facebook Post"

Must be true then. Who would have any reason to doubt Milo?

867523994957881344

[spurraider21]

i'll play the TSA game

hmm, its pretty suspicious that there are all these attacks trying to discredit Mensch just as she's digging deeper into Trump's scandals. That only means her conspiracy theories must be true.

[RandomGuy]

Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy

Flynn, for his part has dissembled on the subject.



[Russian guy to gullible Flynn] "I promise I am not funded by a foreign government".

Okaaay.




[but Podesta]

Fallacy: Red Herring




Also Known as: Smoke Screen, Wild Goose Chase.

Description of Red Herring

A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:

1.Topic A is under discussion.
2.Topic B is introduced under the guise of being relevant to topic A (when topic B is actually not relevant to topic A).
3.Topic A is abandoned.

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because merely changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim.

:nope

[RandomGuy]

Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy

Flynn's lobbying efforts form one of the key facts in presenting that proof.

They aren't mutually exclusive.

Be happy to stop and move on to the next point if you want to cede that Russians were getting their hooks into Flynn, if not there already.



Do Podesta's lobbying efforts...

Fallacy: Red Herring

Also Known as: Smoke Screen, Wild Goose Chase.

Description of Red Herring

A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:

1.Topic A is under discussion.
2.Topic B is introduced under the guise of being relevant to topic A (when topic B is actually not relevant to topic A).
3.Topic A is abandoned.

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because merely changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim.

:nope

[RandomGuy]

So I guess TSA can't or won't talk about Flynn's contacts, and whether they rise to any level of concern?

"but Podesta..."

"but Hillary..."

"but Obama..."

Deflect.
Doubt.
Dissemble.

[monosylab1k]

Except that the vast majority of liberals have been ignoring Mensch for months. She gets shit on with regularity by most left leaning media. Unlike the right who will suck up anything Kim Dotcom squeezes out of his teats. So once again, the left is not fucking retarded like the right.

[monosylab1k]

867523994957881344

You've been posting liberals tweets shitting on her and exposing her.

[RandomGuy]

yeah, but thats easy.

flynn is a cheap hooker.

It is easy for you. Not so for TSA, it seems. Why do you think that is?

[RandomGuy]

Sagan makes a few suggestions about the "tools" a skeptic should keep ready in their Baloney Detection Kit. These are not merely measures to identify bad arguments, but constructive ideas about how to come up with better alternatives:

Seek independent confirmation of alleged facts.
Encourage an open debate about the issue and the available evidence.
"In science, there are no authorities. At most, there are experts."
Come up with a variety of competing hypotheses explaining a given outcome. Considering many different explanations will lower the risk of confirmation bias.
Don't get too attached to your own ideas, lest you get reluctant to reject them even in the face of evidence to the contrary.
Quantify whenever possible, allowing for easier comparisons between hypotheses' relative explanatory power.
Every step in an argument must be logically sound; a single weak link can doom the entire chain.
When the evidence is inconclusive, use Occam's Razor to discriminate between hypotheses.
Pay attention to falsifiability. Science does not concern itself with unfalsifiable propositions.

[TSA]

Except that the vast majority of liberals have been ignoring Mensch for months. She gets shit on with regularity by most left leaning media. Unlike the right who will suck up anything Kim Dotcom squeezes out of his teats. So once again, the left is not fucking retarded like the right.

Are you fucking kidding? She's written op-eds in the NYT and other MSM outlets. Multiple Dem senators are retweeting her and Ed Markey actually cited her as a source :lol

[monosylab1k]

Are you fucking kidding? She's written op-eds in the NYT and other MSM outlets. Multiple Dem senators are retweeting her and Ed Markey actually cited her as a source :lol

Prove it. Show links, be specific, otherwise you're full of shit. Everything I've seen dismisses her as a joke. And you just posted liberal tweets exposing her as a fraud.

[TSA]

So I guess TSA can't or won't talk about Flynn's contacts, and whether they rise to any level of concern?

"but Podesta..."

"but Hillary..."

"but Obama..."

Deflect.
Doubt.
Dissemble.

I asked you for proof of collusion and you brought up Flynn's lobbying. That isn't proof of collusion. And I only bring up Podesta's failure to disclose of lobbying for a pro-Russian think tank to show how absurd it is to use that as proof of Russian collusion.

[RandomGuy]

Attribution is very much an art, and one that necessitates an unfortunate amount of guesswork. The impossibility of conclusively attributing an attack to a specific actor – or, in some cases, even identifying specific actors – does not mean that we should not attempt to correlate the information about attacks with each other. But it is important to only state as truth what is known to be true; discarding inconvenient data as ‘anomalous’ in nature is not only counter-productive, but dangerous. It can lead to a “house of cards” effect: if the initial assumptions are flawed, then each layer built on them is undermined.

We can counteract this simply by communicating and sharing our analyses: as much as possible, as frequently and efficiently as possible. Guesswork and speculation should be accepted – but also challenged and qualified at every opportunity. The narrative that arises from this discourse will be richer, more nuanced and ultimately more valuable to the intelligence community. Only by cultivating accountability can we replace black-box reporting with informed, critical analysis.

https://www.secalliance.com/blog/the-usual-suspects-faith-based-attribution-and-its-effects-on-the-security-community/

Its a good article, and makes a very good point.

[RandomGuy]

I asked you for proof of collusion and you brought up Flynn's lobbying. That isn't proof of collusion. And I only bring up Podesta's failure to disclose of lobbying for a pro-Russian think tank to show how absurd it is to use that as proof of Russian collusion.

You haven't allowed me to finish making my case. I can't show you anything resembling proof, or even a good argument, if some things can't be established.

Flynn advocated for several things for Turkey, after taking money he thought was from Turkey, but appears to have been solely Russian in origin.

Fact or no?