Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[djohn2oo8]

Oh and Trump has threatened to fire Comey this week. lol Trump is a little scared.

[baseline bum]

I am willing to put 5k on it if anyone is willing to take that bet. Bum it's a done deal. I understand your skepticism. Trump will be forced to resign.

Just saying, get that second username ready. Nothing you have posted in this thread seems all that solid so far.

[djohn2oo8]

Just saying, get that second username ready. Nothing you have posted in this thread seems all that solid so far.

It will become public soon. And yeah if Comey wasn't going to do shit about Trump, Trump would not be threatening to fire him.

[baseline bum]

It will become public soon. And yeah if Comey wasn't going to do shit about Trump, Trump would not be threatening to fire him.

Trump and logic don't really go hand in hand tbh.

[florige]

Just saying, get that second username ready. Nothing you have posted in this thread seems all that solid so far.


He is claiming some pretty powerful accusations. He would own the political board of it was true. Lol

[spurraider21]

Just saying, get that second username ready. Nothing you have posted in this thread seems all that solid so far.he has Michael Jordan. (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33236)

he had one of the better troll-stretches i can remember on ST the summer dwert was leaving LA. i think Thebesteva still thinks it was harlem :lol

[TSA]

Trump. Manafort. Sessions. Page. Flynn. Kushner. Trump Jr. Ivanka (his daughter). Nunes. Chaffetz. The list will be long. Comey is coming after Trump for treason. NY AG is coming after Trump on RICO charges because he is a mobster and they set up shop in his goddamn tower.

:rollin

[spurraider21]

The mainstream and conservative media are living in different worlds. So are those who read them (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-two-worlds-20170410-story.html)

[boutons_deux]

IS IT TIME FOR ALL THESE TRUMP RUSSIA FUCKERS TO GO TO JAIL YET?

https://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/prince.png

Back in the weird days of the Trump transition, the reality show scene at Trump Tower was so weird. All kinds of obnoxious idiots would show up in the gold-plated lobby, and they’d get their pictures made

Back in the weird days of the Trump transition, the reality show scene at Trump Tower was so weird. All kinds of obnoxious idiots would show up in the gold-plated lobby, and they’d get their pictures made

according to a report in Bloomberg, (https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-18/blackwater-founder-erik-prince-said-to-have-advised-trump-team) “crowded Acela train” was another place Prince liked to meet with the Trump transition team, all secretive-like:

The meetings occurred in Trump Tower, the administration’s transition office in Washington and elsewhere, according to people familiar with them.

In one informal discussion in late November, Prince spoke openly with two members of Trump’s transition team on a train bound from New York to Washington.

He boarded the same Acela as Kellyanne Conway and they sat together.

Joining the conversation at one point was Kevin Harrington, a longtime associate of Trump adviser Peter Thiel who is now on the National Security Council. They discussed, in broad terms, major changes the incoming administration envisioned for the intelligence community, as recounted by a person on the train who overheard their conversation.


WHAT. THE. HELL. The transition team for Trump — who has been at absolute war with the intelligence community since pretty much day one, probably because it’s got loads of shit on him and he knows it — was

doing Strangers On A Train with Erik Prince and talking about changing the nature of the intelligence community?

To what aim, please?
https://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/garland.png

At the risk of sounding like a big conspiracy theorist, we are JUST SAYING that this very weird assortment of shady (and very rich!) characters meeting on trains and doing back door meetings to each other (and not in a That’s What She Said way) is KIND OF BIZARRE, WE ARE JUST SAYING.

And when we say “weird assortment,” we mean it:

Prince was a generous financial backer of the Trump campaign, along with his sister, Education Secretary Betsy DeVos.

Prince contributed at least $100,000 through a political action committee run by billionaire hedge-fund manager Robert Mercer.

That PAC also funneled contributions from Thiel, the billionaire Silicon Valley entrepreneur who has acted as an informal liaison to the high-tech world for the White House.



Christian theocrats, mercenaries who get their rocks off killing Ay-Rabs, the creepy Steve Bannon-aligned Mercers (who partially own Breitbart), big weird gay PayPal billionaire (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/fashion/peter-thiel-donald-trump-silicon-valley-technology-gawker.html?_r=0) Peter Thiel, who Trump memorably got all hand-cuddly with (https://wonkette.com/609403/rude-old-donald-trump-didnt-invite-twitter-to-his-sexxxy-technology-party) during the roundtable he threw for tech leaders during the transition … what in the name of fuck-all do these people have in common, and, like Garland asked above, “What were these madmen planning and why?”

It’s especially curious when you consider that Prince did all this hush-hush advising, and then immediately went to the Seychelles (https://wonkette.com/615066/morning-joe-cant-stop-loling-at-dumbass-blackwater-liar-erik-prince-tee-hee-hee) for a meeting with a Putin aide to establish a new “back channel” between Team Trump and the Russians.

The meeting was organized by the United Arab Emirates, and it was generally understood by those in attendance that Prince was an “unofficial” representative of Trump.

... etc, etc, etc.

https://wonkette.com/615890/is-it-time-for-all-these-trump-russia-fuckers-to-go-to-jail-yet

Crooked Hillary! :lol

Mercer paid Trash to get Bannon, Miller, Conway into Trash's entourage.

[boutons_deux]

Exxon Mobil Seeks U.S. Sanctions Waiver for Oil Project in Russia

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/19/business/energy-environment/exxon-mobil-russia-sanctions-waiver-oil.html?_r=0

Repugs will grant the waiver?

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

:lol Mensch


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[TSA]

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[djohn2oo8]

854752370043101184 Reck

[boutons_deux]

Chaffetz going for the lobbying lucre. Governing is too hard and pays less.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

Chaffetz going for the lobbying lucre. Governing is too hard and pays less.

No he is going to try and avoid jail.

[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

854711761391558657

:lmao

[monosylab1k]

854711761391558657

Guaranteed next time he's in the headlines it will be because he got caught sucking dick in an airport shitter.

[djohn2oo8]

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[boutons_deux]

THE CONTINUING FALLOUT FROM TRUMP AND NUNES’S FAKE SCANDAL

The binder of secret documents is at the center of the bizarre scandal created by what may be

the most reckless lie President Trump has ever told.

On March 4th, he tweeted (http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/what-to-make-of-donald-trumps-early-morning-wiretap-tweets), “Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory.
Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!”

The White House made several efforts to justify Trump’s claim, including using Devin Nunes, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, as a conduit for the documents, which allegedly offered some substantiation.

A former Nunes staffer now working for the White House dug up the transcripts and shared them with Nunes.

As Bloomberg View reported (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-03/top-obama-adviser-sought-names-of-trump-associates-in-intel), earlier this month, Susan Rice, Obama’s national-security adviser, had used a process that allowed her to request that the masked names be revealed to her.

Rice had to log her unmasking requests on a White House computer, which is how Trump’s aides knew about them.

Nunes and the White House presented this as a major scandal.

“I think the Susan Rice thing is a massive story,” Trump told (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/us/politics/trump-interview-susan-rice.html) the Times, adding, while offering no evidence, that Rice may have committed a crime.

It is now clear that the scandal was not Rice’s normal review of the intelligence reports but the coördinated effort between the Trump Administration and Nunes to sift through classified information and computer logs that recorded Rice’s unmasking requests, and then

leak a highly misleading characterization of those documents,

all in an apparent effort to turn Rice, a longtime target of Republicans, (a knitter and woman, of course the Repugs hate her)

into the face of alleged spying against Trump.

It was a series of lies to manufacture a fake scandal. Last week, CNN was the first to report (http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/11/politics/intelligence-contradicts-nunes-unmasking-claims/) that both Democrats and Republicans who reviewed the Nunes material at the N.S.A. said that

the documents provided “no evidence that Obama Administration officials did anything unusual or illegal.”

http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/the-continuing-fallout-from-trump-and-nuness-fake-scandal (http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/the-continuing-fallout-from-trump-and-nuness-fake-scandal)

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

Guaranteed next time he's in the headlines it will be because he got caught sucking dick in an airport shitter.

Probably sucking his pal Gowdy.

[monosylab1k]

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Something tells me Trump won't like this, even tho finding :cry the leaks :cry is all he talks about.

[monosylab1k]

Probably sucking his pal Gowdy.

:lmao

Yeah Trey Gowdy's political career won't end without at least one "propositioning a male hooker" scandal.

[djohn2oo8]

Probably sucking his pal Gowdy.

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

Like I was telling you Reck. Chaffetz is being blackmailed by Russia. Ryan and McConnell are also involved.

[Reck]

Like I was telling you Reck (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412). Chaffetz is being blackmailed by Russia. Ryan and McConnell are also involved.

Everything is panning out exactly as you said. :wow

[djohn2oo8]

Oh and Chaffetz has been having an affair. That Is part of the Kompromat Russia has on him.

[boutons_deux]

Trump inauguration took $1 million from Russian businessman whose money the RNC rejected in 2000
/http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/trump-inauguration-took-1-million-from-russian-businessman-whose-money-the-rnc-rejected-in-2000/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29??

[baseline bum]

Oh and Chaffetz has been having an affair. That Is part of the Kompromat Russia has on him.

With a teenage boy?

[DarrinS]

Like I was telling you Reck. Chaffetz is being blackmailed by Russia. Ryan and McConnell are also involved.



:married: :stupid: Everything is panning out exactly as you said. :wow

[TSA]

Everything is panning out as expected, not a single charge, indictment, or arrest. Even Flynn isn't in major trouble. :lol

[TSA]

I've noticed djohn2oo8 won't even post Louise Mensch tweets anymore, the bitch has officially lost it and is the laughing stock of Twitter these days. I like to check her feed every few days. She recently had a police report filed against her for stalking and harassment :rollin

[Reck]

Hehehe.

[boutons_deux]

Putin on the move: Russia is moving back into Ukraine, as the Trump administration does nothing

Meanwhile, another Putin critic is killed, and Rex Tillerson's ex-company gets a present from Russia

Russian President Vladimir Putin plans on fully separating the Donbas, two areas of Ukraine that border Russia, by gradually integrating them into Russia, according to a report by Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-20/putin-quietly-detaches-ukraine-s-rebel-zones-as-u-s-waffles).

One senior Russian diplomat explained that the Trump administration seemed “totally uninterested” in the Russia-Ukraine conflict,

instead focusing more on North Korea and Syria, and that this had resulted in mixed signals from Washington.

Konstantin Zatulin, a senior lawmaker in the United Russia party that rules the country, told Bloomberg over the phone that

“a step has been taken toward detaching Donbas — there’s no doubt about that.”

Further complicating matters is the news that ExxonMobil, the oil corporation of which Secretary of State Rex Tillerson used to be CEO, applied to the Treasury Department for a waiver from American sanctions against Russia, according to a report by the The Wall Street Journal (https://www.wsj.com/articles/exxon-seeks-u-s-waiver-to-work-in-russia-despite-sanctions-1492620677).

These efforts were undertaken more assertively after Tillerson became Secretary of State.

If granted, this would allow ExxonMobil to pick up where it left off in a joint venture it had with Rosneft, a Russian-state owned oil corporation.

In particular, ExxonMobil would like to drill with Rosneft in areas that are barred by the current sanctions.

http://www.salon.com/2017/04/20/putin-on-the-move-russia-is-moving-back-into-ukraine-as-the-trump-administration-does-nothing/

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

like I said. Motherfuckers are going down.

[TSA]

like I said. Motherfuckers are going down.

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

^ This Nigga couldn't say anything else :lol

Looking shaky for Trump

[TSA]

There's nothing else to do but laugh at you at this point. Mike Flynn still isn't in any trouble :lol

[djohn2oo8]

There's nothing else to do but laugh at you at this point. Mike Flynn still isn't in any trouble :lol

Which is why he still has his job? :lmao :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

And he wanted immunity because he isn't in trouble? :lol stupid ass

[TSA]

Which is why he still has his job? :lmao :lmao

What major trouble is he in? Or have you completely abandoned your OP?

[TSA]

And he wanted immunity because he isn't in trouble? :lol stupid ass

5 Clinton staffers were granted immunity, are they in trouble?

[djohn2oo8]

5 Clinton staffers were granted immunity, are they in trouble?

Are you retarded or do you not realize Flynn WAS NOT granted immunity? Holy shit :lmao

[TSA]

Are you retarded or do you not realize Flynn WAS NOT granted immunity? Holy shit :lmao

No shit he wasn't given immunity, you were just shown five reasons immunity doesn't mean you're in trouble like you implied.

I'm still waiting for you to share what major trouble Flynn is in, or do you want to request a thread title change from Deuce?

[DarrinS]

like I said. Motherfuckers are going down.

Hopefully, someone gets in trouble. You won't ever get those copy/pasta hours back. :lol

[Reck]

:lol Thinking the FBI is going to make random interval arrests.

If arrests are made, they will be sweeping arrests. You dont spook others by arresting a single person when you're working on an ongoing investigation in which many individuals are the subject of it.

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

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"The committee has also invited FBI Director James Comey and National Security Agency Director Mike Rogers to return before the committee to testify in a closed setting."

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/329914-house-intel-panel-invites-former-acting-ag-yates-to-testify

The same Mike Rogers who went and met with Trump in November without notifying the Obama White House. This should be interesting.

[djohn2oo8]

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Putin gonna be pissed

[boutons_deux]

855483803166322690
Putin gonna be pissed

Not now maybe, but BigOil always gets what it wants from the Repugs. Rexxon T isn't secy of state of nothing.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Russia Defense a ‘Bullsh*t Tornado’ of Magic Spells and Rejected X-Files Scripts

By Hrafnkell Haraldsson (http://www.politicususa.com/author/hrafnkell-haraldsson-2-2-2) on Sat, Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:56 am

Pitted against the US intel community (IC) we find a 'bullsh*t tornado' of what Rick Wilson calls "magic spells and rejected X-Files scripts."

Ever wonder what bizarre alchemy is holding together the defense of Donald Trump and his GOP allies against charges of collusion with Russia? GOP strategist Rick Wilson offered an answer in an epic 13-tweet takedown, and it’s not pretty.

The formula he reveals includes early-onset dementia, lies, and worse:

pitted against the findings of the US intelligence community (IC) is a ‘bullshit tornado’ of “Spells of Forgetting” and “rejected X-Files scripts.”

As former Clinton-era White House staffer Claude Taylor observed (https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/855541249415274496), this is “State of the Art Twitter.” Read on, and enjoy the epic takedown:


There are still a few Republicans on the committee who believe Yates can be a foil for the dumb “unmasking/leakers” strategy.

This is dumb, because it was led by Devin “Patsy” Nunes on direct orders from WH/Bannon.

This basal, twitch-reflex “But Obummer” defense of Trump’s Russia ties is understandable but also literally betting the GOP’s future on Trump and his team telling House GOP Intel Committee members the truth.

Given Trump is a serial fabulist surrounded by the same does this strike any Republican in the House as a good bet? That the denials don’t come with caveats, exceptions, codicils, memory lapses, early-onset dementia, attorney-client privilege, Spells of Forgetting, lies, obfuscations, lacuane [sic], evasions, rejected X-files spec scripts, and his usual tenuous ability to tell the truth about simple facts like the day of the week and his own name.

So keeping up the bullshit tornado as per the last hearings is a weak hand.

It’s also been VERY clear the House Intel staff has had enough.

The GOP members know now that the Trump/Russia intel didn’t come DOWN from the Obama WH but UP from organic collection.

The hissy-fit, stompy-foot “conservative” writers trying to turn this into the Evil Kenyan Muslim Sleeper Agent’s Dirty Tricks are free to continue.

Soldier on, clickservative warriors. Soldier on.


Rick Wilson (https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson)
(https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson)✔@TheRickWilson (https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson)

12/ Two final points.

A. Never forget; you WANTED this war with the IC. You trusted Trump and the Russian IC over our own. Your call.


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/813585115934658560/gnuRozoD_normal.jpgRick Wilson (https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson)
(https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson)✔@TheRickWilson (https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson)

13/

B. Trump: pair of twos. IC: Royal flush.

So endeth.

Trump’s Republican defenders are going to feel pretty foolish

when it comes time for POTUS to lay his cards on the table and he can’t even show a pair of 2s.

In the vernacular, it ain’t gonna be pretty.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/04/22/trump-russia-defense-tornado-magic-spells-x-files-scripts.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[DarrinS]

Mensch :lol

https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/menschs-list?utm_term=.ma4LMpkrVr#.cw7vmy91E1

[Reck]

She's sexy. The hot ones are usually the freakiest ones. :lol

[TSA]

Mensch :lol

https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/menschs-list?utm_term=.ma4LMpkrVr#.cw7vmy91E1

Buzzfeed shitting on her and djohn2oo8 abandoning her

It's been entertaining to watch her literally go insane with paranoia over the last few months.

[Reck]

:lmao Faggot calling anyone insane and paranoid when he's posting pizza and pedo conspiracies that makes cosmored look mainstream. :lmao

[TSA]

They've already found a Russian fall guy for when the CP found at the DNC starts leaking


Imprisoned Russian pedophile appears to be linked to hack of DNC computers
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/imprisoned-russian-pedophile-appears-to-be-linked-to-hack-of-dnc-computers/ar-BBA7SCK

[spurraider21]

you should be glad they're going after pedophiles

[TSA]

you should be glad they're going after pedophiles

That guy is already in jail. They aren't going after him they are using him as the fall guy when all the CP from the DNC starts leaking. They've been setting this up for months so they'll have plausible deniability when it comes out. I called this when the below article came out in January.

"Russian hackers may try to frame Americans by planting child porn on their computers, according to a new report.

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that he “wouldn’t put it past” the Russian hackers to download kiddie porn on US hard drives."

http://nypost.com/2017/01/11/latest-russian-hacking-threat-putting-kiddie-porn-on-your-computer/

[TSA]

Democrats laid the groundwork here and its catching on. Don't like election results, blame Russia.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-F1XmJUIAA_sNi.jpg

[spurraider21]

did you actually read the article? what were the specific allegations against russia?

[TSA]

did you actually read the article? what were the specific allegations against russia?

Yes I read the article. I posted a screenshot of the article headline for that reason.

[spurraider21]

Yes I read the article. I posted a screenshot of the article headline for that reason.Great! Then you'd be able to tell me what the article alleged Russia did in regards to france's recent (and ongoing) election cycle?

[TSA]

Great! Then you'd be able to tell me what the article alleged Russia did in regards to france's recent (and ongoing) election cycle?

You're missing the point. The contents of the article mean little to those who only skim headlines.

Having read the article, why use "how Russia hacked the French elections" as a headline?

[spurraider21]

You're missing the point. The contents of the article mean little to those who only skim headlines.

Having read the article, why use "how Russia hacked the French elections" as a headline?i dont think the article title makes any sense at all. you scold djohn all the time for posting twitter headlines instead of the article content so he can push a narrative. isn't that what you're doing here by claiming they're copying the democrat blueprint of blaming russia... even though nobody is blaming russia in that article?

[TSA]

i dont think the article title makes any sense at all. you scold djohn all the time for posting twitter headlines instead of the article content so he can push a narrative. isn't that what you're doing here by claiming they're copying the democrat blueprint of blaming russia... even though nobody is blaming russia in that article?

You're making my point for me. People like djohn see a title like this and spread it all over social media and soon enough the content of the article is moot. "Russia hacked the French elections" is what the majority believe.

[spurraider21]

You're making my point for me. People like djohn see a title like this and spread it all over social media and soon enough the content of the article is moot. "Russia hacked the French elections" is what the majority believe.and apparently, people like you see the headline and think "omg france is blaming russia too lol they're taking it out of the democrat playbook"

[TSA]

and apparently, people like you see the headline and think "omg france is blaming russia too lol they're taking it out of the democrat playbook"

Politico isn't a French publication. I never said France blamed Russia.

[spurraider21]

Democrats laid the groundwork here and its catching on. Don't like election results, blame Russia. who, specifically, is catching on?

[Adam Lambert]

cant imagine why people think there might be some kind of foreign influence on the french elections similar to the us election.

http://i.imgur.com/NNUD7vn.jpg

[TSA]

cant imagine why people think there might be some kind of foreign influence on the french elections similar to the us election.

http://i.imgur.com/NNUD7vn.jpg

What concerns you more about the French elections....American posters on Reddit creating memes or CIA espionage?

[Adam Lambert]

What concerns you more about the French elections....American posters on Reddit creating memes or CIA espionage?

why do you assume those are two separate things

and lol specifying american posters on reddit

must be american because cuz they have american flags, duh

you dumb fucking sheep

[boutons_deux]

Repug Senate investigation committee doing nothing, no staffing, no suspects called, typical repug anti-governance

[TSA]

why do you assume those are two separate things

and lol specifying american posters on reddit

must be american because cuz they have american flags, duh

you dumb fucking sheep

You didn't answer the question. I'll take "Americans" out of it so you can't pussyfoot around and dodge it again.

What concerns you more about the French elections....Reddit posters making memes to support Le Pen or the USA using CIA espionage to take down Le Pen?

[Adam Lambert]

What concerns you more about the French elections....Reddit posters making memes to support Le Pen or the USA using CIA espionage to take down Le Pen?

whatever leads to le pen losing concerns me least

lol cia espionage tho. what 4chan screenshot did you get that from?

[TSA]

whatever leads to le pen losing concerns me least

lol cia espionage tho. what 4chan screenshot did you get that from?

walked you right into that one
https://wikileaks.org/cia-france-elections-2012/document/2012-CIA-FRANCE-ELECTION/

[Adam Lambert]

walked you right into that one
https://wikileaks.org/cia-france-elections-2012/document/2012-CIA-FRANCE-ELECTION/

lol playing gotcha with a 2012 doc.

we were talking about the current election. the year is 2017.

and even if we were talking about 2012, nothing in that document concerns me. which parts concern you?

quick go find the official 4chan analysis.

or redirect again with something from 1990

[Spurminator]

walked you right into that one
https://wikileaks.org/cia-france-elections-2012/document/2012-CIA-FRANCE-ELECTION/

What's the scoop here? We had spies reporting back to US Intelligence on election strategies of the Socialist Party in France? That's pretty low-level espionage.

What does Wikileaks have on our efforts to tangibly impact that election?

[TSA]

lol playing gotcha with a 2012 doc.

we were talking about the current election. the year is 2017.

and even if we were talking about 2012, nothing in that document concerns me. which parts concern you?

quick go find the official 4chan analysis.

or redirect again with something from 1990

You're naive to think it wasn't still happening leading up to this election as Le Pen was running again and Obama openly supported Marcon.

So explain to me again how Reddit memes are more concerning than CIA espionage into French elections.

[Adam Lambert]

You're naive to think it wasn't still happening leading up to this election as Le Pen was running again and Obama openly supported Marcon.

So explain to me again how Reddit memes are more concerning than CIA espionage into French elections.

i dont care if the intelligence community is collecting intelligence. that is literally what they do. if you had proof that the cia was actively creating fake news and fake social profiles and bots to influence political leanings in france you would have a relevant comparison that we could talk about, but instead youre wasting time revealing proof that the intelligence community is interested in intelligence.

[boutons_deux]

Flynn going down for not reporting income from pootin

[TSA]

i dont care if the intelligence community is collecting intelligence. that is literally what they do. if you had proof that the cia was actively creating fake news and fake social profiles and bots to influence political leanings in france you would have a relevant comparison that we could talk about, but instead youre wasting time revealing proof that the intelligence community is interested in intelligence.

Are you so naive that you think they just collect intelligence and then sit on it and they don't use it to try and push an election to their party of choice?

[Reck]

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djohn2oo8 it's christmas time.

When even Chaffetz is coming after you're really finished. :lmao TSA still in denial mode. WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE?? :lmao

[Adam Lambert]

Are you so naive that you think they just collect intelligence and then sit on it and they don't use it to try and push an election to their party of choice?

lol your burden of proof hypocrisy rears its ugly head again.

to recap...

things that must be proven before accused:
trump campaign cooperation with russia
4chan doxxing nonviolent antifags

things that require no proof before accusing:
clinton campaign covered up pedophile rings
obama wiretapped trump
the cia is actively influencing the french election

did i miss anything?

[djohn2oo8]

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djohn2oo8 it's christmas time.

When even Chaffetz is coming after you're really finished. :lmao TSA still in denial mode. WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE?? :lmao

Yessir. Chaffaggot growing some nuts you know it's over.

[Chucho]

Obama did wiretap the Trump group. And there is still no corroboration with any Russia garbage.

The boiled down;

Rightwingers have been right. The Left and their crazy conspiracy theories have been wrong. LOL.

The Right is right.

The Left is wrong.

[djohn2oo8]

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[Adam Lambert]

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poll: will the tsa response to this be

a. youre naive if you think a Russian cybersecurity firm would pay flynn and not collect intel on us national security

or

b. wheres the proof he did anything wrong and when will he be convicted?

[Reck]

poll: will the tsa response to this be

a. youre naive if you think a Russian cybersecurity firm would pay flynn and not collect intel on us national security

or

b. wheres the proof he did anything wrong and when will he be convicted?

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Chaffetz looks like he may get a deal or a lighter sentence with the FBI.

[DarrinS]

Chaffetz looks like he may get a deal or a lighter sentence with the FBI.

:lol

[baseline bum]

Chaffetz looks like he may get a deal or a lighter sentence with the FBI.

How many members of the GOP have deals with the FBI now?

[djohn2oo8]

How many members of the GOP have deals with the FBI now?

none. And they will be lucky to get any. Like I said. there is another investigation into Trump alongside the FBI. By the NY AG for money laundering.

[spurraider21]

i thought chaffetz was resigning last week?

[baseline bum]

i thought chaffetz was resigning last week?

When the FBI flips a nigga they get them back out on the streets ASAP tbh

[Reck]

It is very interesting that Chaffetz says he's quitting and then starts doing his job for once. Out of all the inquiries out there he decides to get on board with the Flynn one? Not get on Rice's case or any of the other bulshit ones?

[djohn2oo8]

It is very interesting that Chaffetz says he's quitting and then starts doing his job for once. Out of all the inquiries out there he decides to get on board with the Flynn one? Not get on Rice's case or any of the other bulshit ones?

Yessir. And Chaffetz was Team Trump all the way before today.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lol caught money laundering

[djohn2oo8]

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[monosylab1k]

:lol

:cry colbert videos trending :cry

[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

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I have tapared expectations when this faggot says stuff like that. This is the same guy who said Hillary was going to jail for breaking the law.

Chaffetz tends to overshoot his mark most often than not.

[TSA]

Oh noes Flynn sat for dinner at the same table as Putin and Jill Stein :rollin

[TSA]

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big trouble > major trouble ?
:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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[DarrinS]

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Is he getting foot surgery because of Putin? :lmao

[pgardn]

Is he getting foot surgery because of Putin? :lmao

Not violent or deadly enough tbh...

[djohn2oo8]

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What ? :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[DarrinS]

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Maxine Waters is a national treasure. :lol

[monosylab1k]

Is he getting foot surgery because of Putin? :lmao

Probably from kicking his laptop after he found out another Colbert video was trending :cry

[clambake]

flynn is a disgrace.

they're all dirty as hell.

[Splits]

Probably from kicking his laptop after he found out another Colbert video was trending :cry

:lmao

[DarrinS]

Probably from kicking his laptop after he found out another Colbert video was trending :cry

Rent free. :lol

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=123745

[leemajors]

Rent free. :lol

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=123745

Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

[Reck]

Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

Sean Spicer blaming the Obama Admin for Flynn's security clearance. :lmao

Umm he was fired in 2014 by the Obama Adminstration.

[djohn2oo8]

Spicer is on tv blaming Obama for Flynns security clearance :lmao :lmao :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

Sean Spicer blaming the Obama Admin for Flynn's security clearance. :lmao

Umm he was fired in 2014 by the Obama Adminstration.

Flynn is not getting immunity because they don't need his testimony. They have the tapes of Trump.

[clambake]

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:corn:

[djohn2oo8]

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[DarrinS]

Copy, paste, fap, repeat.

[Reck]

Skip to 11:23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCV7tqLP8oY

This moron keeps doing interviews and fucking up.

"They knew I was going to Russia."

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Skip to 11:23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCV7tqLP8oY

This moron keeps doing interviews and fucking up.

"They knew I was going to Russia."

:lmao

Wouldn't be surprised if he is an FBI informant.

[monosylab1k]

Wouldn't be surprised if he is an FBI informant.

There's no way the FBI wants him doing these interviews. This is a guy who 1) thinks he can talk his way out of it, and 2) thought the Trump camp would show some loyalty and have his back if things went bad, which of course they do not.

[Chucho]

LOL Russia/Trump truthers. :lmao

[RandomGuy]

Copy, paste, fap, repeat.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

[RandomGuy]

LOL Russia/Trump truthers. :lmao

Read through the dossier.

It reads like reports prepared by professionals. The person preparing it may have been a private citizen, but both the language usage and style are that of someone more than a bit familiar with how that is phrased. I can personally vouch for at least that much from my own experience with live intel.

The claims it makes are not fantastic, and fully within the reasonable realm of possibility.

1. Russian Intelligence Services has a file on him, as they do on every significant US politician.
2. That file includes sexually salacious items recorded while Golfer-In-Chief was in Moscow.

3. Don't forget Russia's hacking in support of his candidacy.

Further, the items in the dossier that can be factually verified, such as all of the contacts between the Russian government and people connected to Trump have been verified so far when they have been publicly vetted.

Trumps words and actions have been almost entirely consistent with someone who has either worked with the corrupt leaders of Russia or has been actively compromised, with the sole exception of the Syria strike.

You can provide solid contravening evidence by posting anything negative that Trump has said about Putin, or Russia.

[RandomGuy]

To be fair:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/25/christopher-steele-admits-dossier-charge-unverifie/

The guy admits it is unverified, but one would be hard pressed to get sufficient evidence to verify it, unless you get something unlikely happening such as the Russian government releasing the file. Not really saying much there.


A better evaluation of the guy, and I just found out he is an ex-intelligence official:




“It started off as a fairly general inquiry,” Steele would recall in an anonymous interview with Mother Jones, his identity at the time still a carefully guarded secret. But over the next seven incredible months, as the retired spy hunted about in an old adversary’s territory, he found himself following a trail marked by, as he then put it, “hair-raising” concerns. The allegations of financial, cyber, and sexual shenanigans would lead to a chilling destination: the Kremlin had not only, he’d boldly assert in his report, “been cultivating, supporting, and assisting” Donald Trump for years but also had compromised the tycoon “sufficiently to be able to blackmail him.”

And in the aftermath of the publication of these explosive findings—as nothing less than the legitimacy of the 2016 U.S. presidential election was impugned; as congressional hearings and F.B.I. investigations were announced; as a bombastic president-elect continued to let loose with indignant tirades about “fake news”; as internal-security agents of the F.S.B., the main Russian espionage agency, were said to have burst into a meeting of intelligence officers, placed a bag over the head of the deputy director of its cyber-activities, and marched him off; as the body of a politically well-connected former F.S.B. general was reportedly found in his black Lexus—Christopher Steele had gone to ground.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/how-the-explosive-russian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele

Great article, too long to fully post here.

[DarrinS]

Are we revisiting goldenshowergate? :lol

[RandomGuy]

Are we revisiting goldenshowergate? :lol

I think it is more likely than not that Russian intelligence services has compromising footage of the current president of a sexual nature.

If you like I can step through the evidence.

How did you evaluate this claim?

[Reck]

Are we revisiting goldenshowergate? :lol

It'd be hilarious if they have some gay compromising video of him though. Which would be worse than some prostitutes pissing on a bed. :lol

[spurraider21]

It'd be hilarious if they have some gay compromising video of him though. Which would be worse than some prostitutes pissing on a bed. :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8

[TSA]

To be fair:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/25/christopher-steele-admits-dossier-charge-unverifie/

The guy admits it is unverified, but one would be hard pressed to get sufficient evidence to verify it, unless you get something unlikely happening such as the Russian government releasing the file. Not really saying much there.


A better evaluation of the guy, and I just found out he is an ex-intelligence official:




http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/how-the-explosive-russian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele

Great article, too long to fully post here.

"There was no safe way he could return to Russia to do the actual digging; the vengeful F.S.B. would be watching him closely"

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/how-the-explosive-russian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele

[Chucho]

:rollin Trump/Russia truthers

:lol "The Dossier"

But that FISA warrant showing the Obama camp did spy on Trump and the Left laughed at Trump's claims, but he's being proven right, and just like the Christian genocide, the Leftist media wont report on it.

LOLosing to Trump on rigged elecrtions and conspiracy theories:lol:rollin

[clambake]

obama spying would be bitchin cool.

please be real

[djohn2oo8]

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[RandomGuy]

:rollin Trump/Russia truthers

:lol "The Dossier"

But that FISA warrant showing the Obama camp did spy on Trump and the Left laughed at Trump's claims, but he's being proven right, and just like the Christian genocide, the Leftist media wont report on it.

LOLosing to Trump on rigged elecrtions and conspiracy theories:lol:rollin

What was your methodology for evaluating the dossier?

[RandomGuy]

Are we revisiting goldenshowergate? :lol

Question remains for you as well.

How did you evaluate this claim?

[monosylab1k]

The golden shower story is great comedic fodder, but it has all the credibility of pizzagate.

[RandomGuy]

:rollin Trump/Russia truthers

:lol "The Dossier"

But that FISA warrant showing the Obama camp did spy on Trump and the Left laughed at Trump's claims, but he's being proven right, and just like the Christian genocide, the Leftist media wont report on it.

LOLosing to Trump on rigged elecrtions and conspiracy theories:lol:rollin


Fallacy: Appeal to Ridicule

Also Known as: Appeal to Mockery, The Horse Laugh.
Description of Appeal to Ridicule

The Appeal to Ridicule is a fallacy in which ridicule or mockery is substituted for evidence in an "argument." This line of "reasoning" has the following form:

1.X, which is some form of ridicule is presented (typically directed at the claim).
2.Therefore claim C is false.

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because mocking a claim does not show that it is false. This is especially clear in the following example: "1+1=2! That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!"

FWIW.

If you can't show some reasonable rationale for rejecting a given claim, then your rejection of the claim is unwarranted.

Real conspiracy theories, such as "9-11 was an inside job" etc, tend to fall apart when examined closely. Either factually wrong, or just as often the underlying assumptions prove to be untenable or easily falsified. I have argued here over such things for well over a decade. Once you start laying things out, and read through the dossier, it becomes more than a bit alarmingly plausible.

[Spurminator]

:cry Appeal to Ridicule :cry

[Spurminator]

Sorry, had to.

[Chucho]

What was your methodology for evaluating the dossier?

:lol Seriously?? Howabout the fact even hardcore antiTrump outlets like New Fox have laid off it? Probably the most laughable piece of "evidence" crazy Trump truthers keep holding onto. :rollin

:lmaoConspiracy Theories

[Chucho]

FWIW.

If you can't show some reasonable rationale for rejecting a given claim, then your rejection of the claim is unwarranted.

Real conspiracy theories, such as "9-11 was an inside job" etc, tend to fall apart when examined closely. Either factually wrong, or just as often the underlying assumptions prove to be untenable or easily falsified. I have argued here over such things for well over a decade. Once you start laying things out, and read through the dossier, it becomes more than a bit alarmingly plausible.


:lol What's your basis for thinking it legitimate? And, I'm sure you're aware, that same logic can be applied to all the Libs in here who make the same. exact. posts. but favoring Lib views and agendas.

This is ST, sweetie, just in case you forgot. :rollin

[RandomGuy]

The golden shower story is great comedic fodder, but it has all the credibility of pizzagate.

(shrugs)

Hard to say with any certainty.

It is gross and unusual, but there are people who find such things sexual. I don't know Donald J. Trumps sexual preferences beyond what he has publicly expressed, and neither do you.

Given that, I think it unlikely, but possible. Trump is petty and vindictive, such an activity may well have fallen into a category "I hate Obama so much I would pay to see something related to him defiled", rather than sexuality.

Much more likely is something more conventional, but certainly extra-martial and unflattering.

[RandomGuy]

:lol Seriously?? Howabout the fact even hardcore antiTrump outlets like New Fox have laid off it? Probably the most laughable piece of "evidence" crazy Trump truthers keep holding onto. :rollin

:lmaoConspiracy Theories

So you didn't really evaluate the claim.

Did you read the full dossier?

[RandomGuy]

:lol What's your basis for thinking it legitimate? And, I'm sure you're aware, that same logic can be applied to all the Libs in here who make the same. exact. posts. but favoring Lib views and agendas.

This is ST, sweetie, just in case you forgot. :rollin

Not all bad things about liberals or democrats are false.

Are all bad things about conservatives or Republicans automatically false?

[Chucho]

Not all bad things about liberals or democrats are false.

Are all bad things about conservatives or Republicans automatically false?


I didn't say that. I said it got dropped by the anti-Trump truther network, New Fox, faster than a stillborn fetus out of Courtney Love's ****.

[Chucho]

We can't say khunt on this board??? We can call a Filipina pedophile rapist a Fillipina pedophile rapist, but we can't use the c word in it's full linguistic integrity?

[TSA]

Question remains for you as well.

How did you evaluate this claim?

For starters were you aware Steele was never in Russia to collect intel and instead paid third parties to gather intel for him?

[Chucho]

For starters were you aware Steele was never in Russia to collect intel and instead paid third parties to gather intel for him?

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/32501746/disaster-girl-boom-motherfucker.jpg

[DisAsTerBot]

:lol Seriously?? Howabout the fact even hardcore antiTrump outlets like New Fox have laid off it? Probably the most laughable piece of "evidence" crazy Trump truthers keep holding onto. :rollin

:lmaoConspiracy Theories

Tell us about sandy hook

[Splits]

Tell us about sandy hook

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

[QUOTE=Chucho;8984374
This is ST, sweetie, just in case you forgot. :rollin[/QUOTE]

It is indeed. And somewhere on the other side of this scrolling text is a real, thinking person. Most of the time it is a lot of stupid shit back and forth, with myself just as guilty as the next guy, if not more so sometimes.

BUT

Occasionally something level-headed and worth a shit happens. You have occasionally put a lot of time/thought into a post or two (I have one bookmarked that I keep meaning to get back to, it seems a shame to let your effort go to waste), so I will take a step or to in that direction.

[RandomGuy]

How did you evaluate this claim?


For starters were you aware Steele was never in Russia to collect intel and instead paid third parties to gather intel for him?

Not really an answer to my question. Be happy to answer your question though, after you answer mine, it is easy enough.

I was just wondering how you got to where you were. Evaluation of the claim can go side- by side I guess.

What do you think and why, is always a good thing to go over, and evaluating self-bias is always helpful.

[RandomGuy]

Are all bad things about conservatives or Republicans automatically false?


I didn't say that. I said it got dropped by the anti-Trump truther network, New Fox, faster than a stillborn fetus out of Courtney Love's ****.

I didn't say you did.

I was just trying to get some intellectually honest answers. I am happy to admit that Dems can fuck up, and do things that I disagree with. A good conversation about this has to start with a willingness on both sides to admit that their preferred party and people are not infallible.

If that can't happen, might as well stop. The topic seems important enough to treat seriously.

IF the claim really is that weak, that will out fairly quickly under any serious scrutiny. That is how one blows stupid conspiracy theories out of the water, it really doesn't take long, in my (lengthy) experience.

[TSA]

How did you evaluate this claim?



Not really an answer to my question. Be happy to answer your question though, after you answer mine, it is easy enough.

I was just wondering how you got to where you were. Evaluation of the claim can go side- by side I guess.

What do you think and why, is always a good thing to go over, and evaluating self-bias is always helpful.

Steele paid by Trump opposition to compose dossier
Steele wasn't even Russia to gather intel, paid others (who?) to gather intel for dossier
Same dossier used by previous administration to get FISA (Page spoke with Russian spy in 2013, FBI never accuses Page of wrongdoing)
Little of the dossier has been corroborated except the Page part...and that part means little since the FBI did nothing in 2013

It's just another piece that is unraveling for the previous administration after they were caught spying on a Presidential candidate.

So were you aware Steele was never in Russia gathering intel?

[TSA]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/comments/2017/04/28/us/politics/nsa-surveillance-terrorism-privacy.htm

[djohn2oo8]

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[Splits]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-iW94FXsAAtZq8.jpg

[djohn2oo8]

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Christie is Dirty too but not Russia dirty

[djohn2oo8]

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This botnet was hosted in Trump Tower.

[TSA]

856719599496081410
This botnet was hosted in Trump Tower.Trump really played the long game with Russia as this goes all the way back to 2010 :lol

Kelihos malware targeted computers running the Microsoft Windows operating system. Infected computers became part of a network of compromised computers known as a botnet and were controlled remotely through a decentralized command and control system. According to the civil complaint, Peter Yuryevich Levashov allegedly operated the Kelihos botnet since approximately 2010.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-actions-dismantle-kelihos-botnet-0

[djohn2oo8]

Did somebody say something? No? Okay.

[TSA]

Did somebody say something? No? Okay.

You said this botnet was hosted in Trump tower. Your link never said that, and none of the other FBI links I followed said that either.

Why are you hiding where you read this botnet was hosted in Trump tower?

[spurraider21]

Trump really played the long game with Russia as this goes all the way back to 2010 :lol

Kelihos malware targeted computers running the Microsoft Windows operating system. Infected computers became part of a network of compromised computers known as a botnet and were controlled remotely through a decentralized command and control system. According to the civil complaint, Peter Yuryevich Levashov allegedly operated the Kelihos botnet since approximately 2010.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-actions-dismantle-kelihos-botnet-0
And Obama was supposedly spying on him since 2013 as a potential presidential candidate?

[TSA]

And Obama was supposedly spying on him since 2013 as a potential presidential candidate?

There was no FISA warrant on Trump team in 2013 as Trump team didn't exist. What are you trying to get at?

[Reck]

:lmao

[TSA]

Townhall Tipsheet Matt Vespa
RUSSIA
ICYMI: FBI Cited Unverified Dossier To Obtain FISA Warrant To Monitor Trump Adviser, While Russia Tried To Infiltrate Campaign
Matt Vespa Matt Vespa |Posted: Apr 21, 2017 7:00 PM Share (871) Tweet
ICYMI: FBI Cited Unverified Dossier To Obtain FISA Warrant To Monitor Trump Adviser, While Russia Tried To Infiltrate Campaign

Okay, so we have some new updates about the allegations of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign. The first is that Trump adviser Carter Page's communications were monitored through a FISA warrant obtained by the FBI. Second, the FBI cited the unsubstantiated dossier compiled by a former British intelligence operative to help make the case for the warrant. What we do know about the dossier so far is that much of it is unverified. Moreover, the only thing we can confirm about its contents is that Russians talked to other Russians, but we don’t know what they talked about. There were other salacious details, which I will not go into, and those have been unsubstantiated as well. In all, the dossier’s contents remains largely in doubt. It was part of an opposition research project conducted on behalf of Democrats and anti-Trump Republicans.

Democrats have a new avenue to walk down on regarding this allegation since Page was reportedly a target for recruitment by Russian intelligence services dating back to 2013. What we do know is that Page’s trip to give a lecture at the New Economic School in Russia back in July brought him under the FBI’s microscope again. By September, the FBI obtained their FISA warrant, though Carter Page had resigned from the campaign. After the new reports about Page, FISA, and Russia, there are more questions than answers and there is still no solid evidence of Russian collusion (Via NYT)) [emphasis mine]:

Ever since F.B.I. investigators discovered in 2013 that a Russian spy was trying to recruit an American businessman named Carter Page, the bureau maintained an occasional interest in Mr. Page. So when he became a foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign last year and gave a Russia-friendly speech at a prestigious Moscow institute, it soon caught the bureau’s attention.
That trip last July was a catalyst for the F.B.I. investigation into connections between Russia and President Trump’s campaign, according to current and former law enforcement and intelligence officials.
It is unclear exactly what about Mr. Page’s visit drew the F.B.I.’s interest: meetings he had during his three days in Moscow, intercepted communications of Russian officials speaking about him, or something else.
[…]
In April 2013, Mr. Page was caught on an F.B.I. wiretap in an investigation of suspected Russian intelligence officers in New York. Victor Podobnyy, one of three men later charged with being unregistered agents of a foreign power, had met Mr. Page at an energy symposium and was recorded describing him as “an idiot” with dreams of lucrative deals. There is no evidence that Mr. Page knew the man was an intelligence officer.
Now, CNN is reporting that Russia tried to use Page, and other aides, to infiltrate the Trump campaign during the 2016 election. Yet, as with any new development in this saga, there’s no evidence that points to Page knowing that he was in the company of Russian intelligence agents:

The FBI gathered intelligence last summer that suggests Russian operatives tried to use Trump advisers, including Carter Page, to infiltrate the Trump campaign, according to US officials.
The new information adds to the emerging picture of how the Russians tried to influence the 2016 election, not only through email hacks and propaganda but also by trying to infiltrate the Trump orbit. The intelligence led to an investigation into the coordination of Trump's campaign associates and the Russians.
These officials made clear they don't know whether Page was aware the Russians may have been using him. Because of the way Russian spy services operate, Page could have unknowingly talked with Russian agents.
There was also no evidence to accuse Mr. Page during the spy ring investigation that began in 2013, which the Times added was broken up by the FBI two years later. Two of the agents Victor Podobnyy and Igor Sporyshev had diplomatic immunity; Podobnyy worked as an attaché with the United Nations, while Sporyshev was a Russian trade representative. The third operative, Evgeny Buryakov, was convicted of espionage, sentenced to 30 months in jail, and was recently deported back to Russia earlier this month. The publication also said in the beginning of their report that in 2013, “an [FBI] investigation into the spy ring, but decided that he [Mr. Page] had not known the man was a spy, and the bureau never accused Mr. Page of wrongdoing.”

Like Jeff Sessions having contacts with foreign officials in his capacity as a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, are we to expect that Mr. Page didn't speak with any Russians when he lived in Russia for three years (2004-2007) as a Moscow-based investment banker for Merrill Lynch? Of course, he did. Moreover, let’s not forget that this isn’t the first supposed bombshell to drop on the whole Russia-Trump collusion theory. Remember back in February when the Times reported that Trump associates had contacts with Russian intelligence [emphasis mine]:

Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.
[…]
Several of Mr. Trump’s associates, like [former campaign chairman ]Mr. [Paul] Manafort, have done business in Russia. And it is not unusual for American businessmen to come in contact with foreign intelligence officials, sometimes unwittingly, in countries like Russia and Ukraine, where the spy services are deeply embedded in society. Law enforcement officials did not say to what extent the contacts might have been about business.
In other words, this wasn't a smoking gun and this story, like most on this subject, failed to materialize into something more concrete or sinister. Senate Democrats have admitted that no solid evidence of collusion might be found in this investigation. Over at the House side, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), the ranking member for the intelligence committee, said that there is no definitive proof of collusion. The absence of proof seems to have the Left jumping on any meeting as signs of treason. Katrina Vanden Huevel of the progressive Nation magazine said these antics were nothing more than neo-McCarthyite furor. Matt Taibbi at the Rolling Stone said the Trump-Russia story has devolved into a textbook case of mass hysteria. So, at least we have some in the liberal media noting how this story is turning their side into irrational creatures.


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/04/21/icymi-fbi-cited-unverified-dossier-to-obtain-fisa-warrant-to-monitor-trump-advis-n2316596

[TSA]

It just keeps getting worse for the Obama admin. The same FISA warrant Susan Rice was using to unmask US persons and disseminate throughout the White House was based on a dossier paid for by Trump opposition and compiled by a guy who was never in Russia to actually gather and verify intel :rollin

[Adam Lambert]

compiled by a guy who was never in Russia to actually gather and verify intel :rollin

you know they invented means of communication that dont require you to be in the same country with someone to speak with them, right? i think it happened some time in the 1800s

[TSA]

you know they invented means of communication that dont require you to be in the same country with someone to speak with them, right? i think it happened some time in the 1800s

They must be using the technology from the 1800's to corroborate his claims :rollin

[Adam Lambert]

They must be using the technology from the 1800's to corroborate his claims :rollin

youre on the losing side of this argument and everyone knows it except for you and your best friends on 4chan :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

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:lol failing to mention the Podesta's lobbying firm is doing exactly the same


"A lobbying firm closely allied with Hillary Clinton has registered as a foreign agent for a Ukrainian organization with ties to Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin.

Paul Manafort, the former campaign chairman for Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, also plans to register with the Justice Department for work he did for the same group, the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine"

[TSA]

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This botnet was hosted in Trump Tower.

You said this botnet was hosted in Trump tower. Your link never said that, and none of the other FBI links I followed said that either.

Why are you hiding where you read this botnet was hosted in Trump tower?

[Adam Lambert]

:lol failing to mention the Podesta's lobbying firm is doing exactly the same


"A lobbying firm closely allied with Hillary Clinton has registered as a foreign agent for a Ukrainian organization with ties to Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin.

Paul Manafort, the former campaign chairman for Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, also plans to register with the Justice Department for work he did for the same group, the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine"

hey tsa what is podestas role in the administration of the current potus?

[TSA]

hey tsa what is podestas role in the administration of the current potus?


hey Adam Lambert what is manaforts role in the administration of the current potus?

[TSA]

youre on the losing side of this argument and everyone knows it except for you and your best friends on 4chan :rollin

You're either naive, uninformed, or blind. Nothing that has come out recently has been in favor of the narrative the past administration was hoping for. Obama administration is up shit creek right now.

[TSA]

spurraider21 and djohn2oo8 both ran off after being pressed to answer :lol

Have a nice weekend fellas.

[spurraider21]

answer what? i dont follow this shit nearly as closely as you or djohn do.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJLxl71g5tQ

[Adam Lambert]

hey Adam Lambert what is manaforts role in the administration of the current potus?

he was the current potus campaign manager and a significant player in getting him elected.

now its your turn (again) to answer the question.

[MultiTroll]

Politicians investigating politicians.

Ya I'm sure we will get the truth out of this.

Just per the par.
How long with this bullshit drone on?

[Adam Lambert]

You're either naive, uninformed, or blind. Nothing that has come out recently has been in favor of the narrative the past administration was hoping for. Obama administration is up shit creek right now.

thats according to your friends at 4chan

in the real world, which youve missed out on for the past year, nothing trump has said about obama wiretapping him (or anything else, really) has been true, and obama is looking just fine.

[SnakeBoy]

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Dayum Boy! Shit is fixin to get real!

[TSA]

he was the current potus campaign manager and a significant player in getting him elected.

now its your turn (again) to answer the question.

He wasn't the current campaign manager and he has no role in the current admin of the POTUS.

[TSA]

thats according to your friends at 4chan

in the real world, which youve missed out on for the past year, nothing trump has said about obama wiretapping him (or anything else, really) has been true, and obama is looking just fine.

Was Trump team and by default Trump under surveillance during election by previous administration yes or no?

[TSA]

answer what? i dont follow this shit nearly as closely as you or djohn do.

the question I posed last time I quoted you

[Adam Lambert]

He wasn't the current campaign manager and he has no role in the current admin of the POTUS.

he was the campaign manager of the current potus.

what is podestas role with the current potus?

[Adam Lambert]

Was Trump team and by default Trump under surveillance during election by previous administration yes or no?

a member of the trump team is not trump by default.

legal surveillance is not an illegal wiretap.

trump lied.

you swallowed.


SLURP SLUUUUUUUUUUUURP

[djohn2oo8]

TSA about to take another loss.

[TSA]

he was the campaign manager of the current potus.

what is podestas role with the current potus?

Neither of them have a role in the current administration, and both of them lobbied for the same exact group tied to Putin. How are you not following this?

[djohn2oo8]

TSA too stupid to insult :lol

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

a member of the trump team is not trump by default.

legal surveillance is not an illegal wiretap.

trump lied.

you swallowed.


SLURP SLUUUUUUUUUUUURPYou're dodging the question and adding qualifiers to do so.

Trump said nothing about it being illegal.

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Don't dodge twice. Was Trump team and by default Trump under surveillance during election by previous administration yes or no?

[TSA]

TSA about to take another loss.

Chickenshit decided to show up.

You said this botnet was hosted in Trump tower. Your link never said that, and none of the other FBI links I followed said that either.

Why are you hiding where you read this botnet was hosted in Trump tower?

[Adam Lambert]

Neither of them have a role in the current administration, and both of them lobbied for the same exact group tied to Putin. How are you not following this?

i am following this just fine. manafort was the campaign manager for the campaign that won the presidency.

trump president not clinton, faggot. thats why this matters. how are you not following this?

[TSA]

i am following this just fine. manafort was the campaign manager for the campaign that won the presidency.

trump president not clinton, faggot. thats why this matters. how are you not following this?
It doesn't matter at all. Both campaigns had managers lobbying for the same exact Putin tied group. Both managers are registering after the fact.

[djohn2oo8]

"But but Clinton" :cry
:lmao

[Adam Lambert]

You're dodging the question and adding qualifiers to do so.

Trump said nothing about it being illegal.

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keep taking those Ls with trumps jizz in your throat.

and youre still dodging my question about podestas role in the current administration. :cry it doesnt matter :cry

first time anything related to podesta hasn't mattered to you. :rollin

[TSA]

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keep taking those Ls with trumps jizz in your throat.

and youre still dodging my question about podestas role in the current administration. :cry it doesnt matter :cry

first time anything related to podesta hasn't mattered to you. :rollin

Why post tweets that don't prove your claim? Trump never called it illegal.

I answered your question about Podesta. No role in current admin, just like Manafort.

Don't dodge a third time, that's more djohn's style.

Was Trump team and by default Trump under surveillance during election by previous administration yes or no?

[Adam Lambert]

trump: "is this legal?"
trump: "a court turned it down"
trump: "this is basically watergate"

tsa: "he never said it was illegal"


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[Reck]

TSA loves moving the goalpost.

:cry Obama wiretapped muh phones....but you know I dont mean this was illegal or anything. :cry

[TSA]

trump: "is this legal?"
trump: "a court turned it down"
trump: "this is basically watergate"

tsa: "he never said it was illegal"


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And I'm 100% correct.

[TSA]

You're cornered Lambert and you know it.

Was Trump team and by default Trump under surveillance during election by previous administration yes or no?

[Adam Lambert]

Don't dodge a third time, that's more djohn's style.

Was Trump team and by default Trump under surveillance during election by previous administration yes or no?

ask a valid question. trumps team is not "trump by default."

[Adam Lambert]

And I'm 100% correct.

go tell your 4chan friends, theyre the only people in the world who would think youre winning this argument.

[TSA]

thats according to your friends at 4chan

in the real world, which youve missed out on for the past year, nothing trump has said about obama wiretapping him (or anything else, really) has been true, and obama is looking just fine.

https://www.thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/325648-trump-was-right-after-all-on-the-obama-wiretapping%3Famp

[Adam Lambert]

you know watergate was illegal right?

do you know what watergate was?

wikipedia that shit

[TSA]

ask a valid question. trumps team is not "trump by default."

It's a completely valid question and almost 100% certain Trump was under surveillance by default (incidental collection) if his team was under surveillance. But since you're being a bitch and I just need you to answer take Trump out.

Was Trump team under surveillance during election by previous administration yes or no?

[Adam Lambert]

https://www.thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/325648-trump-was-right-after-all-on-the-obama-wiretapping%3Famp


Moreover, the inadvertent surveillance is rightfully distinguished from the original suggestion of a targeting of Trump.


trumps team is not "trump by default."

like i said.

[Adam Lambert]

Was Trump team under surveillance during election by previous administration yes or no?

why yes, tsa, there was incidental surveillance of some members of the trump team which has been reported on extensively by the media over the past month.

what does that have to do with trumps tweets suggesting that he was illegally wiretapped at trump tower by the obama administration?

[TSA]

like i said.[/COLOR]

:lol leaving out the next sentences

"However, this would still be a very serious matter if intelligence officials acted to unmask the names and distribute them. The masking of names is meant to protect innocent people from such inadvertent interception as part of the minimization procedures in the surveillance area."

[TSA]

why yes, tsa, there was incidental surveillance of some members of the trump team which has been reported on extensively by the media over the past month.

what does that have to do with trumps tweets suggesting that he was illegally wiretapped at trump tower by the obama administration?

Thank you for admitting the Obama administration had Trump's team under surveillance during an election. That's all I wanted you to say. And that's all Trump needed to let everyone know.

[Adam Lambert]

:lol leaving out the next sentences

"However, this would still be a very serious matter if intelligence officials acted to unmask the names and distribute them. The masking of names is meant to protect innocent people from such inadvertent interception as part of the minimization procedures in the surveillance area."

i left out that sentence because its not relevant to the discussion of whether obama illegally tapped trump at trump tower

[Adam Lambert]

Thank you for admitting the Obama administration had Trump's team under surveillance during an election. That's all I wanted you to say. And that's all Trump needed to let everyone know.

so youre admitting trump lied

thank you for that. progress!

[djohn2oo8]

TSA still doesn't understand how surveillance works

[Reck]

TSA still doesn't understand how surveillance works

Loses main account over it. Still doesn't get it.

:lol special ed.

[djohn2oo8]

Loses main account over it. Still doesn't get it.

:lol special ed.

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

Horrible look for Manafort for his firm to register as a foreign agent before he does.

[Adam Lambert]

remember when trump tweeted "how dare the previous administration inadvertently pick up conversations of my campaign staff during legal surveillance of foreign ops!"

me neither

[TSA]

so youre admitting trump lied

thank you for that. progress!

Again you are trying push him saying illegal yet he never did.

Your hate from Trump has you defending a Presidential candidate being under surveillance by the sitting administration. Think long and hard about the stance you've forced yourself to take.

[Adam Lambert]

remember when trump tweeted "how dare the previous administration inadvertently pick up conversations of my campaign staff during legal surveillance of foreign ops!"

me neither

[Adam Lambert]

Again you are trying push him saying illegal yet he never did.

was watergate illegal, yes or no?
did trump say the wiretapping was the same as watergate, yes or no?

dont dodge this one.

[TSA]

:lol 4th dodge in 3...2...1....


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This botnet was hosted in Trump Tower.


You said this botnet was hosted in Trump tower. Your link never said that, and none of the other FBI links I followed said that either.

Why are you hiding where you read this botnet was hosted in Trump tower?

[Adam Lambert]

Your hate from Trump has you defending a Presidential candidate being under surveillance by the sitting administration. Think long and hard about the stance you've forced yourself to take.

i support the current administration monitoring foreign operatives they believe may be compromising our democratic election process. if a candidate in the election has staffers who are having conversations with those foreign operatives then its great that this was discovered, frankly.

i do not support a sitting administration illegally wiretapping a candidate directly for political purposes, but that didnt happen so were good.

you still seem very very confused by what is going on, which is natural when you get all of your news from reddit and 4chan.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol 4th dodge in 3...2...1....




You said this botnet was hosted in Trump tower. Your link never said that, and none of the other FBI links I followed said that either.

Why are you hiding where you read this botnet was hosted in Trump tower?

So i can teabag you when the media Picks up on the story. Face it, motherfuckers are flipping on Trump like crazy. Guliani being one.

[djohn2oo8]

http://statelaws.findlaw.com/new-york-law/new-york-racketeering-rico-laws.html

Might want to get familiar with these

[TSA]

was watergate illegal, yes or no?
did trump say the wiretapping was the same as watergate, yes or no?

dont dodge this one.

Take what you want from his tweets, he never said it was illegal.

Again, your hate from Trump has you defending a Presidential candidate being under surveillance by the sitting administration. Think long and hard about the stance you've forced yourself to take.

Think of the repurcussions if nothing is done and Trump can use the NSA/FBI/CIA and the same tactics on Democrats during the next election.