Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

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Trump signed letter of intent for Trump Tower Moscow project despite Giuliani insisting he didn't


https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/politics/trump-signed-letter-of-intent-rudy-giuliani-moscow/index.html

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Alan Dershowitz ruthlessly mocked after his pro-Flynn talking points get destroyed at sentencing hearing

Twitter users piled on legal scholar Alan Dershowitz who insisted that lying to federal investigators isn’t a crime.

Dershowitz wrote, “The media is asking the wrong question about the Michael Flynn case.

They are asking whether Flynn lied or the FBI acted improperly, as if the answers to those two questions are mutually exclusive.

The possibility that both are true, in that Flynn did not tell the truth and that the FBI acted improperly,

is not considered in our hyper partisan world where everyone, including the media,

chooses a side and refuses to consider the chance that their side is not perfectly right and the other side not perfectly evil.”

“The FBI knew the truth. They had recordings of the conversations.

Then why did they ask him whether he had those conversations?

Obviously, not to learn whether he had them but, rather, to give him the opportunity to lie to federal agents so that they could squeeze him to provide damaging information against President Trump. “

With Flynn accepting that it was not a “perjury trap” in court Thursday morning, and

conceding he committed a felony,

“Sounds like the interactions between Judge Sullivan, Michael Flynn, and his lawyer

amount to a step-by-step demolition of the Hannity/Strassel/Dershowitz talking points,” :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/alan-dershowitz-ruthlessly-mocked-pro-flynn-talking-points-get-destroyed-sentencing-hearing/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

I wonder who's paying D to self-destruct his career?

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‘This judge don’t play’: Former FBI agent says Trump should be quaking after Flynn judge’s rebuke

Former FBI special agent Asha Rangappa was stunned by Judge Emmet Sullivan’s brutal rebuke (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/sold-country-judge-delivers-scathing-smackdown-michael-flynn-sentencing/) of former national security adviser Michael Flynn during his sentencing hearing — and

she said it should send chills down the spine of President Donald Trump.

"You don’t make those kinds of claims in a court document that’s alleging serious malfeasance, misconduct by the FBI that calls into question your plea deal…

and then not expect the judge to… question you about it and then, when you backtrack, to get understandably upset.”

Rangappa then turned to what Judge Sullivan’s smackdown of Flynn meant for Trump — and it was similarly not good.

“This is a very serious crime,” she said.

“And I think that… should worry everyone who’s in the cross-hairs of this investigation.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/judge-dont-play-former-fbi-agent-says-trump-quaking-flynn-judges-rebuke/

[ElNono]

Flynn and the Twitterazi tired of winning, tbh

[Trill Clinton]

https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1075095147749277697?s=19

[Trill Clinton]

https://i.imgur.com/Eoj8XdU.gif

https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1075236383973888005?s=19


https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1075220124423127040?s=19

Guliani said trump never signed the letter, he lied
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1074851054569877504?s=19

Trump signed letter of intent for Trump Tower Moscow project despite Giuliani insisting he didn't

(CNN) — A newly obtained document shows President Donald Trump signed a letter of intent to move forward with negotiations to build a Trump Tower in Russia, despite his attorney Rudy Giuliani claiming on Sunday the document was never signed.

CNN's Chris Cuomo obtained a copy of the signed letter of intent that set the stage for negotiations for Trump condominiums, a hotel and commercial property in the heart of Moscow. The letter is dated October 28, 2015, and bears the President's signature.
When asked on Sunday about the letter, Giuliani incorrectly told CNN's Dana Bash that it had not been signed.

"It was a real estate project. There was a letter of intent to go forward, but no one signed it," Giuliani told Bash.

The non-binding document is also signed by Andrey Rozov, owner of I.C. Expert Investment Co., the Russian firm that would have been responsible for developing the property.

READ: How Trump Tower fits into Russian interference
Trump did not tell the public during the 2016 presidential campaign that his company explored the business deal with Russia and instead repeatedly claimed he had "nothing to do with Russia." But the project, which was ultimately scrapped, would've given Trump's company a $4 million upfront fee, no upfront costs, a percentage of the sales and control over marketing and design. The deal also included an opportunity to name the hotel spa after Trump's daughter Ivanka.
The special counsel's team investigating Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election alleges the deal could have been lucrative for the Trump Organization.
While the potential Trump Tower Moscow deal was on the table, then-candidate Trump was speaking positively about working with Russian President Vladimir Putin and minimizing Russia's aggressive military moves around the world.

Giuliani suggested on Sunday that Trump had spoken with Michael Cohen, Trump's corporate attorney at the time, later than January 2016 about the proposed Moscow project, and said in an interview with ABC that the conversations may have gone as far as toward the end of the general election period.
"According to the answer that he gave, it would have covered all the way up to November of -- covered all the way up to November 2016," Giuliani said, seemingly referencing Trump's written responses to special counsel Robert Mueller.

On Tuesday, Giuliani told CNN that the question to Trump from Mueller was more generally asking if Trump talked to Cohen about the project. The question was not about specific dates or conversations, Giuliani said.

CNN previously obtained a draft of the letter that Trump eventually signed. In 2017, Cohen told congressional committees investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election that Trump had signed the letter. Donald Trump Jr. also testified to Congress that his father signed the letter of intent.

Last week, Cohen was sentenced to three years in prison for crimes that included arranging payments during the 2016 presidential election to silence women who claimed affairs with Trump. Trump has denied the affairs.

CNN's Gloria Borger, Marshall Cohen, Dana Bash and Eli Watkins contributed to this report.

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Rudy Giuliani Cries ‘Bullsh*t’ After Being Corrected On Trump’s Letter of Intent for Moscow Towerhttps://www.mediaite.com/online/rudy-giuliani-cries-bullsht-after-being-corrected-on-trumps-letter-of-intent-for-moscow-tower/

:lol

Was Trash's signed letter fake news?

[spurraider21]

just gonna thank techno fog for more self own. missed this one from yesterday

1075196804508119040

:lol muh 302's
:lol muh exculpatory evidence
:lol muh brady violation

so many crackpot theories struck down in such a short period of time :tu

[TSA]

just gonna thank techno fog for more self own. missed this one from yesterday

1075196804508119040

:lol muh 302's
:lol muh exculpatory evidence
:lol muh brady violation

so many crackpot theories struck down in such a short period of time :tu

What’s even funnier is how you avoid talking about the Russian collusion theory being struck down

:lol muh Russia

[Chucho]

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[Pavlov]

What’s even funnier is how you avoid talking about the Russian collusion theory being struck down

:lol muh RussiaEh, Flynn was too busy being bought by Turkey to collude with Russia. Remember he was the lowest hanging fruit out there.

Do you still think there are other 302s out there, TSA?

Yes or no.

[ElNono]

What’s even funnier is how you avoid talking about the Russian collusion theory being struck down

:lol muh Russia

tbh, you still have a chance of earning a W on that one. For this one, just take the L and charge it to da game...

[spurraider21]

What’s even funnier is how you avoid talking about the Russian collusion theory being struck down

:lol muh Russia
this thread is about flynn being in trouble for talking to russia about sanctions. he pled guilty for lying to the FBI about talking to the russian ambassador about sanctions.

and you've been predicting the charges to be dropped or his plea to be invalidated/withdrawn for a number of reasons relating to prosecutorial misconduct. what are your current thoughts on that position, TSA?

[TSA]

Eh, Flynn was too busy being bought by Turkey to collude with Russia. Remember he was the lowest hanging fruit out there.

Do you still think there are other 302s out there, TSA?

Yes or no.

Ptienka’s 302 was either filed under seal or not turned over. Hasn’t been released to the public yet so it’s unkown.

There is also a letter from the DIA that is said to have exculpatory evidence that hasn’t been produced. Grassley has been asking for it since August.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1073624309518794753/photo/1

When the dust settles and Flynn finally is able to speak I think there’s a good chance you’ll be wrong about Flynn being bought by Turkey.


Have you completely abandoned muh Russia yet? Are you still pushing Cohen in Prague even though your boy Isikoff has abandoned it?

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[TSA]

this thread is about flynn being in trouble for talking to russia about sanctions. he pled guilty for lying to the FBI about talking to the russian ambassador about sanctions.

and you've been predicting the charges to be dropped or his plea to be invalidated/withdrawn for a number of reasons relating to prosecutorial misconduct. what are your current thoughts on that position, TSA?

bullshit.

link me to the thread about Russian collusion then

[TSA]

tbh, you still have a chance of earning a W on that one. For this one, just take the L and charge it to da game...

muh Russia is the only one that matters tbh

[Pavlov]

Ptienka’s 302 was either filed under seal or not turned over. Hasn’t been released to the public yet so it’s unkown.Or it doesn't exist. Funny that Sullivan didn't say anything about documents not being turned over to him.

What proof do you have there is a 302 that wasn't turned over?


There is also a letter from the DIA that is said to have exculpatory evidence that hasn’t been produced. Grassley has been asking for it since August.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1073624309518794753/photo/1 What possible evidence from the agency that couldn't stand Flynn would exonerate Flynn, TSA?


When the dust settles and Flynn finally is able to speak I think there’s a good chance you’ll be wrong about Flynn being bought by Turkey.Uh, Turkey paid Flynn over half a million dollars.

How is that not being bought by Turkey.



Have you completely abandoned muh Russia yet? Are you still pushing Cohen in Prague even though your boy Isikoff has abandoned it?

1075244219336396800That's not the only Russia angle, princess.

I am completely comfortable with being wrong about a Prague meeting.

It's not like I said Democrats were running a child sex ring in the basement of a pizza parlor.

[TSA]

this thread is about flynn being in trouble for talking to russia about sanctions. he pled guilty for lying to the FBI about talking to the russian ambassador about sanctions.

and you've been predicting the charges to be dropped or his plea to be invalidated/withdrawn for a number of reasons relating to prosecutorial misconduct. what are your current thoughts on that position, TSA?

My current and previous thoughts are that Flynn lied for a reason unknown at this point.

[Pavlov]

muh Russia is the only one that matters tbh
https://media1.tenor.com/images/83116dac5575fef19f9a39e17984e7bd/tenor.gif:rollin


No, TSA. Your many embarrassing conspiracy fails here matter.

[Pavlov]

My current and previous thoughts are that Flynn lied for a reason unknown at this point.What possible unknown reason, TSA?

You're just making shit up now.

[ElNono]

What does ‘Flynn being able to finally speak’ means? He had a 1 on 1 chat with the judge, and AFAIK there’s no gag order preventing him from speaking out...

[spurraider21]

What does ‘Flynn being able to finally speak’ means? He had a 1 on 1 chat with the judge, and AFAIK there’s no gag order preventing him from speaking out...
Judge straight up asked if they thought there was additional exculpatory evidence that they believe exists and has been withheld. They said no.

[spurraider21]

bullshit.

link me to the thread about Russian collusion then
:lol aight. Point taken. But we’ve specifically been discussing the Flynn proceedings here and it’s just funny seeing you try to shift the topic away from that.

[spurraider21]

My current and previous thoughts are that Flynn lied for a reason unknown at this point.
Meant what are your thoughts on the status of his guilty plea and the legal proceedings associated therewith

[Pavlov]

Flynn lied about his contacts with Russia because he had already told the same lie to administration officials and to the press.

Dude simply thought he could get away with it.

The real question is this: Why did Trump and everyone around Trump lie about Russia?

[TSA]

[quote=Pavlov]What possible evidence from the agency that couldn't stand Flynn would exonerate Flynn, TSA?[/tweet]

You’ll have to wait and see what was shared in the classified briefing. If the agency “couldn’t stand Flynn” as you claim, they wouldn’t provide exculpatory evidence for Flynn.

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Flynn knew they had the Kislyak transcripts and knew he was lying when speaking to the FBI. He’d already filed an LDA for the Inovo lobbying work before being picked by Trump. Flynn Intel shutdown before he was NATSEC. He didn’t hide his work with Turkey. Flynn lied for a reason and my guess is that it’s tied to something with the DIA that he still can’t talk about. Sullivan seemed to feel something was off and repeatedly asked Flynn if he’d like to withdraw. Sullivan knew there was misconduct within the FBI and I think he would have thrown it out if Flynn asked to withdraw his plea.

[TSA]

What does ‘Flynn being able to finally speak’ means? He had a 1 on 1 chat with the judge, and AFAIK there’s no gag order preventing him from speaking out...

How do you know this for a fact?

[TSA]

:rollin


No, TSA. Your many embarrassing conspiracy fails here matter.

Sorry. 2 years of your life devoted to muh Russia tops them all.

[Pavlov]

You’ll have to wait and see what was shared in the classified briefing. If the agency “couldn’t stand Flynn” as you claim, they wouldn’t provide exculpatory evidence for Flynn.

1073624309518794753
Just like everything with Grassley's letters and everything you have said "just you wait" for -- I predict this will do absolutely nothing.


Flynn knew they had the Kislyak transcripts and knew he was lying when speaking to the FBI. He’d already filed an LDA for the Inovo lobbying work before being picked by Trump. Flynn Intel shutdown before he was NATSEC. He didn’t hide his work with Turkey. Flynn lied for a reason and my guess is that it’s tied to something with the DIA that he still can’t talk about. Sullivan seemed to feel something was off and repeatedly asked Flynn if he’d like to withdraw. Sullivan knew there was misconduct within the FBI and I think he would have thrown it out if Flynn asked to withdraw his plea.:lmao that's the worst spin job I have ever seen.

Sullivan said he was disgusted by Flynn's actions.

He asked Flynn directly about his plea because his dumbfuck lawyers just had to slip your stupid ass conspiracy talk into his sentencing statement. Sullivan called their bluff and left it their client to fold.

Full stop.

Now you can wait for your grocer or high school coach to tell you what your new conspiracy theory has to be. You're completely at a loss for words to say what documents could possibly clear him.

[Pavlov]

How do you know this for a fact?He was talking in open court to the presiding judge, genius.

Who are you saying gagged him?

[Pavlov]

Sorry. 2 years of your life devoted to muh Russia tops them all.Do you really want to compare conspiracy theories we each have pushed here?

Yes or no.

[TSA]

Do you really want to compare conspiracy theories we each have pushed here?

Yes or no.

I don’t push conspiracy theories I discuss them.

[Splits]

You’ll have to wait and see what was shared in the classified briefing. If the agency “couldn’t stand Flynn” as you claim, they wouldn’t provide exculpatory evidence for Flynn.

1073624309518794753

Flynn knew they had the Kislyak transcripts and knew he was lying when speaking to the FBI. He’d already filed an LDA for the Inovo lobbying work before being picked by Trump. Flynn Intel shutdown before he was NATSEC. He didn’t hide his work with Turkey. Flynn lied for a reason and my guess is that it’s tied to something with the DIA that he still can’t talk about. Sullivan seemed to feel something was off and repeatedly asked Flynn if he’d like to withdraw. Sullivan knew there was misconduct within the FBI and I think he would have thrown it out if Flynn asked to withdraw his plea.

:lmao holy shit

[Pavlov]

I don’t push conspiracy theories I discuss them.Oh bullshit, TSA.

You push them and push them til they fall apart then you move on to the next one.

Don't try to weasel out of it. You believed all this shit.

[TSA]

Just like everything with Grassley's letters and everything you have said "just you wait" for -- I predict this will do absolutely nothing.

:lmao that's the worst spin job I have ever seen.

Sullivan said he was disgusted by Flynn's actions.

He asked Flynn directly about his plea because his dumbfuck lawyers just had to slip your stupid ass conspiracy talk into his sentencing statement. Sullivan called their bluff and left it their client to fold.

Full stop.

Now you can wait for your grocer or high school coach to tell you what your new conspiracy theory has to be. You're completely at a loss for words to say what documents could possibly clear him.

Not as bad as trying to spin Sullivan being disgusted after he admitted he was wrong and apologized.

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Passing debunked material is beyond pathetic.

[Chris]

Bottom line is judge postponed the sentence indefinitely, at least 90 days, because he has more questions about the FBI and Mueller.

[Pavlov]

Not as bad as trying to spin Sullivan being disgusted after he admitted he was wrong and apologized.

1075084484557590528

Passing debunked material is beyond pathetic.Nope, that was specifically about the treason talk.

You're saying Sullivan was happy he lied to the FBI and didn't say he was considering giving him jail time?

Yes or no.

[Splits]

DO YOU SEE IT????///

https://twitter.com/UsProspect/status/1075104697550336001

[TSA]

Oh bullshit, TSA.

You push them and push them til they fall apart then you move on to the next one.

Don't try to weasel out of it. You believed all this shit.

After all these years I still have it.

[Pavlov]

Bottom line is judge postponed the sentence indefinitely, at least 90 days, because he has more questions about the FBI and Mueller.lol no

Flynn answered every question about the FBI Sullivan had.

[Pavlov]

After all these years I still have it.Yes, after all these years you still have all the shit you believed.

:lol TSA

[TSA]

Nope, that was specifically about the treason talk.

You're saying Sullivan was happy he lied to the FBI and didn't say he was considering giving him jail time?

Yes or no.


Point me to the exact quote where Sullivan said he was disgusted by Flynn lying to the FBI.

[Pavlov]

Point me to the exact quote where Sullivan said he was disgusted by Flynn lying to the FBI.Sorry, TSA -- question pending.

You're saying Sullivan was happy he lied to the FBI and didn't say he was considering giving him jail time?

Yes or no.


Also:

Who are you saying gagged him?

[TSA]

Yes, after all these years you still have all the shit you believed.

:lol TSA

How do you know what I believe? Serious question.

[ElNono]

How do you know this for a fact?

Where’s the gag order? Maybe Technofog has it?

[TSA]

Sorry, TSA -- question pending.

You're saying Sullivan was happy he lied to the FBI and didn't say he was considering giving him jail time?

Yes or no.


Also:

Who are you saying gagged him?

You brought up Sullivan being disgusted and said it was because of Flynn lying to the FBI. You can retract that statement or back your claim?

[ElNono]

I don’t push conspiracy theories I discuss them.


Entertaining them is akin to pushing them

[TSA]

Where’s the gag order? Maybe Technofog has it?

Would a gag order from the DIA be public knowledge?

[ElNono]

Bottom line is judge postponed the sentence indefinitely, at least 90 days, because he has more questions about the FBI and Mueller.

Not really. He postponed it to ensure he can cooperate further with Mueller in other cases.

[TSA]

Entertaining them is akin to pushing them

depends what side of the theory you are on.

did you “push” the Russian collusion theory?

[ElNono]

Would a gag order from the DIA be public knowledge?

Only judges issue gag orders. What you’re thinking of are NDAs or NSL.

But then again, he was asked point blank by the judge if there was anything else he wanted to add, and he didn’t bring up either.

[Chris]

Not really. He postponed it to ensure he can cooperate further with Mueller in other cases.

:lol

[Pavlov]

How do you know what I believe? Serious question.You keep posting about Silsby and Q chilling outside Air Force One and all your other conspiracy theories you won't let go.

Seriously.

[ElNono]

depends what side of the theory you are on.

did you “push” the Russian collusion theory?

That’s exactly my point. Dismissing a theory is the end of it. Entertaining it continues to push it forward.

I already stated my stance on the Russia probe and how I envision it working out, it’s in the relevant thread.

[Splits]

Would a gag order from the DIA be public knowledge?

:lmao this is the new conspiracy theory? Wouldn't Sullivan have been sympathetic to this? Or is the DIA "gag order" hidden from him too? lmao

[Pavlov]

Would a gag order from the DIA be public knowledge?:lol Where is the DIA gag order statute?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/jerome_corsi/status/1075521354521305094

[ElNono]

:lol

The new delay in sentencing will allow Flynn to continue cooperating with the Russia investigation and get credit for it in his punishment. The change upset what had been a carefully crafted agreement, with Mueller's office saying Flynn had already provided "the vast majority" of information he could.

Did technofrog miss det one?

[TSA]

You brought up Sullivan being disgusted and said it was because of Flynn lying to the FBI. You can retract that statement or back your claim?

[TSA]

The new delay in sentencing will allow Flynn to continue cooperating with the Russia investigation and get credit for it in his punishment. The change upset what had been a carefully crafted agreement, with Mueller's office saying Flynn had already provided "the vast majority" of information he could.

Did technofrog miss det one?

:lol cooperating with the Russia investigation
:lol entertaining it is pushing it

[Pavlov]

You brought up Sullivan being disgusted and said it was because of Flynn lying to the FBI. You can retract that statement or back your claim?"This criminal offense"?

The one Van Grack said Flynn would have been prosecuted for had he not cooperated with the SC.

[ElNono]

:lol cooperating with the Russia investigation
:lol entertaining it is pushing it

I didn’t get to pick what the Special Counsel is investigating. You need to wrap your head around the fact that there’s an active investigation into the matter, with multiple cases open, and the judge specifically instructed Flynn to continue to collaborate in them.

None of that is a theory, it’s entirely factual.

[Chris]

:lol cooperating with the Russia investigation
:lol entertaining it is pushing it

El Nono's conspiracy theories :lol

[Pavlov]

:lol cooperating with the Russia investigation
:lol entertaining it is pushing itTSA, if Sullivan was thisclose to setting Flynn free, why did he restrict Flynn's travel and make him surrender his passport?

Explain.

[ElNono]

There’s the other poster that took a massive L on this one trying to gang up and save face :lmao

[Pavlov]

"I would like to proceed, your honor," Flynn said.
Sullivan asked, "Because you're guilty of this offense?"
"Yes, your honor," Flynn said [under oath], nodding.


So Qhris and TSAnon's new theory is Flynn lied to the judge multiple times in open court.

Under oath.

Because DIA gag order.

lol

[Splits]

TSA, if Sullivan was thisclose to setting Flynn free, why did he restrict Flynn's travel and make him surrender his passport?

Explain.

TO THROW OFF THE MEDIA FROM THE DIA GAG ORDER

[djohn2oo8]

TSA, if Sullivan was thisclose to setting Flynn free, why did he restrict Flynn's travel and make him surrender his passport?

Explain.

because he wanted to put him in timeout for not withdrawing his guilty plea

[djohn2oo8]

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how many of Team Trump indictments makes this?

[TSA]

"This criminal offense"?

The one Van Grack said Flynn would have been prosecuted for had he not cooperated with the SC.

You claimed Sullivan was disgusted with Flynn, back it with a quote from Sullivan or retract your claim. You’re just stalling at this point.

[Spurminator]

Sorry. 2 years of your life devoted to muh Russia tops them all.

Wow, this is the most un-self-aware thing I think I've ever seen posted here.

[TSA]

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how many of Team Trump indictments makes this?


ZERO having to do with colluding with Russia during the election.

[TSA]

Wow, this is the most un-self-aware thing I think I've ever seen posted here.


Difference being one person was on the correct side the whole time. And you have no room to question pissing away life Adam.

[Pavlov]

You claimed Sullivan was disgusted with Flynn, back it with a quote from Sullivan or retract your claim. You’re just stalling at this point."I'm not hiding my disgust, my disdain for this criminal offense"

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/us/politics/michael-flynn-sentencing.html

lol TSAnon

[Splits]

"I'm not hiding my disgust, my disdain for this criminal offense"

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/us/politics/michael-flynn-sentencing.html

lol TSAnon

LOL DIGSUST WITH THE CRIMINAL ACT NOT WITH FLYNN

[TSA]

"I'm not hiding my disgust, my disdain for this criminal offense"

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/us/politics/michael-flynn-sentencing.html

lol TSAnon

That link doesn’t support your claim. Provide the direct quote...the transcript is available.

[Pavlov]

That link doesn’t support your claim. Provide the direct quote...the transcript is available.Great. Give me the link to the transcript.

And in the meantime you can explain why Sullivan restricted Flynn's travel.

[Chris]

Great. Give me the link to the transcript.

^low information poster

[Pavlov]

^low information posterDo you have a link to the transcript, Qhris?

Post it here.

[TSA]

Great. Give me the link to the transcript.

And in the meantime you can explain why Sullivan restricted Flynn's travel.

:lol demanding the transcript for your own claim

I’m pretty sure Sullivan explained the SC should have restricted it earlier and it was standard procedure. Also in the transcript you’re too lazy to find.

[Chris]

Great article by SC :tu



The Sentencing That Didn’t Happen: Why Flynn’s Case Is Bigger Than Flynn


The confusion so many Americans have about the Russia collusion investigation is not due to anyone's lack of intelligence, it's done purposefully.



It was supposed to be a simple sentencing hearing.

It didn’t pan out that way for former National Security Advisor Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn and his family, who were seated in the courtroom waiting for Judge Emmet G. Sullivan to enter the chamber.

The courthouse was packed with reporters, supporters, detractors, and lookie-loos who came to see what might transpire. The court bailiff had to open an overflow room after the benches in Flynn’s courtroom filled. Despite arriving an hour early, I was in the line that would end up in the overflow room. Also standing in line was Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton and Michael Ledeen, a national security expert and co-author of Flynn’s book The Field of Fight. Leeden was there to support his friend and Fitton was there to watch what unexpectedly became the most unusual sentencing hearing any of us have ever witnessed.

I did not get the opportunity to sit in the room with Flynn or his family, so like others in the overflow room, our view was myopic. Each half of the room had a large screen television on a stand. The screen divided Flynn’s courtroom into four sections so the audience could simultaneously view Sullivan, Flynn’s attorneys, the prosecution and honestly, I can’t recall what the fourth screen displayed.

All eyes, however, were on Sullivan’s section of the screen when he entered the courtroom. Sullivan began by making it perfectly clear that no one in his entire tenure as a judge had ever pleaded guilty to a crime they didn’t commit and “it wasn’t going to happen today.”

It didn’t.

The confusion so many Americans have about the Russia collusion investigation is not due to anyone’s lack of intelligence, it’s done purposefully. It’s the muddy water that every once in awhile releases a shiny glimmer of truth, only to have it sink back again into the swamp with more trash and debris to cover it all up. I’ve written about this before and I stand by every word.

That was evident when Sullivan, who appeared to be as confused as the American public, went after Flynn. It happened more than thirty minutes into the hearing when Sullivan, who had asked at least 11 times if Flynn wanted to withdraw his guilty plea or seek new counsel said “no.” Flynn did this, we assume, on the advice of his counsel Robert Kelner, whose law firm Covington and Burlington represents Flynn.

Sullivan’s reasoning for asking Flynn to withdraw the plea was based on information Kelner had disclosed in Flynn’s sentencing memorandum. It was vital information that raised red flags for the court about how the FBI possibly mishandled their investigation into Flynn. What the memorandum revealed was that former Deputy Director of the FBI Andrew McCabe had suggested to Flynn during a phone conversation that he didn’t need a lawyer present during his initial interview with the bureau. McCabe, at the order of former FBI Director James Comey, sent two agents to interview at the White House without going through the proper channels of contacting the White House General Counsel. Secondly, the witness interviews reveal that the two agents didn’t believe Flynn had lied during their interview. Lastly, the agents, along with McCabe, decided to it was better to not tell Flynn it would be a crime to lie to them during the interview.

Sullivan said during the trial, that information revealed in Flynn’s memorandum “concerned the Court, as he raised issues that may affect or call into question his guilty plea and, at the very least, maybe his acceptance of responsibility. As such, the Court concludes that it must now first ask Mr. Flynn certain questions to ensure that he entered his guilty plea knowingly, voluntarily, intelligently, and with fulsome and satisfactory advice of counsel.”

After giving Flynn and his attorney’s ample opportunity to change his guilty plea, Sullivan then went on a tirade against Flynn. He accused the three-star general of “treason” and excoriated him for crimes he’s never been formally accused of by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office.

“Arguably, that undermines everything that this flag over here stands for,” said Sullivan to Flynn and looking at the flag in the courtroom. “Arguably, you sold your country out.”

Shocked. That was the face of everyone in the courtroom. Whispers. Everyone was wondering what was going on – what happened to Sullivan, whose record against prosecutorial misconduct is well documented. He dismissed the ethics conviction of former Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens in 2009 after he discovered government prosecutors withheld exculpatory information and possible ethical misconduct.

Why didn’t Flynn withdraw his plea, I wondered? Could it be that he’s overwhelmed with debt, his family is exhausted of the whole situation or did Mueller’s office threaten to go after his son for something we have yet to discover. Maybe, all of the above.

The government prosecutors corrected Sullivan but the damage was done. The prosecution also reiterated that Flynn was still assisting them on the case against Bijan Kian, Flynn’s former business partner with the former Flynn Intel Group. Sullivan gave Flynn’s counsel one more out before moving forward with the sentencing, suggesting it might way better in Flynn’s case to have a sentencing hearing after he finishes cooperating with the Special Counsel.

Flynn’s more relaxed demeanor at the beginning of the trial was now gone. He seemed stoic, upset and his body language reflected that fact. Sullivan then announced a 25 minute break to let Flynn discuss the matter with his attorneys. Flynn accepted the postponement of his sentencing.

When the break ended Kelner told Sullivan that they would accept the postponement. Sullivan then walked back all the inaccurate statements that Flynn was a traitor, along with the faulty statement that Flynn served as an unregistered foreign agent for Turkey, while he was at the White House.

Sullivan’s confusion, however, was one many people shared. I heard it in line at the courthouse with regard to the issue of Turkey. One man said Flynn “cut deals with the Russians and the Turks.” He was “working for the Russians,” said another man in the line. Others defended Flynn, “he’s an American hero, the deep state is after him.” Of course, none of those people know Flynn and their judgments are based on stories they have heard or read.

Why all the confusion on Tuesday? Well, some of it started with news that broke the day before Flynn’s sentencing hearing. Mueller’s team had unsealed an indictment against Flynn’s former business partner Bijan Kian, and Turkish businessman Ekim Alptekin, indicting them on conspiracy for violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Alptekin was also charged with lying to investigators.

Flynn. however, is a cooperating witness against Kian and Alptekin for Mueller’s office, as stated by prosecutors. He has already given 19 interviews with the Special Counsel, and even Mueller himself has requested leniency -no jail time- in Flynn’s sentencing because of his “substantial cooperation.”

Unsealing the indictments against Flynn’s former partners a day before Flynn’s sentencing hearing muddied the water. It roped in Flynn, who despite cooperating with the Special Counsel, was now tainted by another mess.

Further, despite the new information revealed in the sentencing memorandum, his counsel did not advise Flynn to withdraw the guilty plea.

Instead Kelner tried to explain to Sullivan why they included the information in the memorandum saying, “the principal reason we raised these points in the brief was to attempt to distinguish the two cases in which the special counsel’s investigation has resulted in incarceration, the (George) Papadopoulos and (Alexander) Van der Zwaan cases…”

Kelner added “but Gen. Flynn has been, I think, clear from the beginning and will be clear again that he fully accepts responsibility, stands by his guilty plea, which was made based on knowing and willful conduct.”

This did not bode well with Sullivan who was probably wondering, like the rest of us, why did Kelner disclose all this information if he wasn’t gong to do anything with it. And for that matter, did Flynn plead guilty to a crime he didn’t commit.


WHAT IS THE REAL CRIME


Flynn’s case wasn’t about collusion with Russia or his work for Turkey.

But it did start with a felony. Not a felony committed by Flynn but one committed by a senior U.S. Obama official who disclosed to the public a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant on then Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergei Kislyak and his private phone calls with Flynn in December, 2016.

The second felony committed by this former senior government official was unmasking Flynn’s name in the media reports.

At the time, Flynn was already appointed by then President-elect Trump. He no longer had ties to his Flynn Intel Group, and he was not operating as a private citizen against the Obama administration. He has been smeared by false allegations by unnamed former senior Obama officials who would like the American public to believe their lies.

It began with a column by the Washington Post’s David Ignatius. Ignatius, probably from an FBI-orchestrated leak, revealed the highly classified information in his column on Jan.12, 2017. It was attributed to a senior Obama administration official who had direct access to the highly-classified transcripts of the conversation between the two men.

From Ignatius’s Column: According to a senior U.S. government official, Flynn phoned Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak several times on Dec. 29, the day the Obama administration announced the expulsion of 35 Russian officials as well as other measures in retaliation for the hacking. What did Flynn say, and did it undercut the U.S. sanctions? The Logan Act (though never enforced) bars U.S. citizens from correspondence intending to influence a foreign government about “disputes” with the United States. Was its spirit violated? The Trump campaign didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

That same week, Jake Tapper with CNN also published a report attributed to multiple former senior Obama administration officials that President-elect Trump was briefed on the most salacious parts of former British Spy Christopher Steele’s unverified dossier. It was the first time the dossier was given any credibility.

This week, however, nearly a year later, Yahoo New’s national security reporter Michael Isakoff, who first reported on the contents of the dossier admitted, that “there’s good grounds to think that some of the more sensational allegations will never be proven and are likely false.”

Back in early 2017, the media was hot on Russia Trump collusion stories that now have proven to be either unsubstantiated or outright lies. Flynn was swept up into the mess and purposefully handed up on a silver platter to the media and the FBI by a senior Obama administration official and Sally Yates who personally went to the White House-armed with an FBI report (302) on January 26 to demand Flynn’s termination.

So what happened to the leaker? Former Attorney General Jeff Session’s said last year that the DOJ was actively investigating 27 classified leaks to the media. Still, there has been no confirmation that this crime is being investigated.

Flynn’s story is tragic.

Whether Flynn decides to seek new counsel based on the fiasco at the courthouse Tuesday or replace his attorney’s is not known. Many of his friends, legal analysts and other law enforcement officials I’ve spoken to over the past 24 hours say now is the time for the former warfighter to put on his battle gear, fight back and set the record straight.

No one is sure what the embattled general will do.

But one thing is certain, what happened to Flynn is bigger than Flynn. The events that led up to Flynn’s conviction and guilty plea should concern all Americans who value the foundation that established our nation’s system of justice – whether we still believe in equal justice for all. There is no semblance of it now.

https://saraacarter.com/the-sentencing-that-didnt-happen-why-flynns-case-is-bigger-than-flynn/

[Pavlov]

:lol demanding the transcript for your own claim

I’m pretty sure Sullivan explained the SC should have restricted it earlier and it was standard procedure. Also in the transcript you’re too lazy to find.I looked. I couldn't find it.

No link?

Or are you just reading techno fog's tweets with screenshots of the trasncript?

Just post a link to the transcript if you have one. I'll do the rest.

:lol"pretty sure"

[spurraider21]

Bottom line is judge postponed the sentence indefinitely, at least 90 days, because he has more questions about the FBI and Mueller.
?? :lmao what? please provide a quote from the hearing that indicates this

he was clear as day that he postponed sentencing because flynn's attorneys indicated that he has more cooperating to do, and the judge doesn't want to sentence until all the cooperation is done.

[TSA]

I looked. I couldn't find it.

No link?



Thanks for admitting you were full of shit.

[Winehole23]

Lol crankypants TSA

[Pavlov]

Thanks for admitting you were full of shit.I gave you the NYT story with the quote.

How is that not good enough, TSA?

Do you need another source?

Five sources?

Thanks for admitting you don't have the transcript either.

:lol TSA

[spurraider21]

Thanks for admitting you were full of shit.
he posted a direct quote that the judge was disgusted by "this criminal offense"

what criminal offense do you think he was referring to, the one that he pled guilty for and was having a a sentencing hearing for or some other hypothetical one?

[Winehole23]

Bad case seems to be going around this month, but let's be honest, there's never any shortage of crankypants here.

[ElNono]

Judge was disgusted that this guy did what amounted to treason (judge words), and was getting off scott-free.

Technofag keeps posting transcripts from the session, but y’all don’t read shit.

[ElNono]

Great article by SC :tu

What’s SC? Sportscenter?

[Chris]

?? :lmao what? please provide a quote from the hearing that indicates this

he was clear as day that he postponed sentencing because flynn's attorneys indicated that he has more cooperating to do, and the judge doesn't want to sentence until all the cooperation is done.

No that was the prosecution and Kelner agreed afterwards :lol

lawyer21 :lol

[TSA]

he posted a direct quote that the judge was disgusted by "this criminal offense"

what criminal offense do you think he was referring to, the one that he pled guilty for and was having a a sentencing hearing for or some other hypothetical one?

working as an unregistered agent of Turkey while holding title of NATSEC.

“Two months later you again made false statements in multiple documents filed pursuant to the Foreign Agents Registration Act. So, all along you were an unregistered agent of a foreign country, while serving as the National Security Advisor to the President of the United States.

I mean, arguably, that undermines everything this flag over here stands for (indicating). Arguably, you sold your country out. The Court’s going to consider all of that. I cannot assure you that if you proceed today you will not receive a sentence of incarceration. But I have to also tell you that at some point, if and when the government says you’ve concluded with your cooperation, you could be incarcerated.

It could be that any sentence of incarceration imposed after your further cooperation is completed would be for less time than a sentence may be today. I can’t make any guarantees, but I’m not hiding my disgust, my disdain for this criminal offense.”


———————-


And then Sullivan realized his error and apologized


“THE COURT: All right. I just want to ask a couple of questions. This is directed to either government counsel or defense counsel. I made a statement about Mr. Flynn acting as a foreign agent while serving in the White House. I may have misspoken. Does that need to be corrected?

MR. VAN GRACK: Yes, Your Honor, that would be correct, which is that the conduct ended, I believe, in mid-November 2016.

THE COURT: All right. That’s what I thought, and I felt terrible about that. I just want the record clear on that. You agree with that, Counsel?

MR. KELNER: Yes, Your Honor.”

[TSA]

Judge was disgusted that this guy did what amounted to treason (judge words), and was getting off scott-free.

Technofag keeps posting transcripts from the session, but y’all don’t read shit.


Judge was wrong and nothing amounted to treason per Mueller’s team.

“THE COURT: All right. I just want to ask a couple of questions. This is directed to either government counsel or defense counsel. I made a statement about Mr. Flynn acting as a foreign agent while serving in the White House. I may have misspoken. Does that need to be corrected?

MR. VAN GRACK: Yes, Your Honor, that would be correct, which is that the conduct ended, I believe, in mid-November 2016.

THE COURT: All right. That’s what I thought, and I felt terrible about that. I just want the record clear on that. You agree with that, Counsel?

MR. KELNER: Yes, Your Honor.”

[Pavlov]

working as an unregistered agent of Turkey while holding title of NATSEC.

“Two months later you again made false statements in multiple documents filed pursuant to the Foreign Agents Registration Act. So, all along you were an unregistered agent of a foreign country, while serving as the National Security Advisor to the President of the United States.

I mean, arguably, that undermines everything this flag over here stands for (indicating). Arguably, you sold your country out. The Court’s going to consider all of that. I cannot assure you that if you proceed today you will not receive a sentence of incarceration. But I have to also tell you that at some point, if and when the government says you’ve concluded with your cooperation, you could be incarcerated.

It could be that any sentence of incarceration imposed after your further cooperation is completed would be for less time than a sentence may be today. I can’t make any guarantees, but I’m not hiding my disgust, my disdain for this criminal offense.”


———————-


And then Sullivan realized his error and apologized


“THE COURT: All right. I just want to ask a couple of questions. This is directed to either government counsel or defense counsel. I made a statement about Mr. Flynn acting as a foreign agent while serving in the White House. I may have misspoken. Does that need to be corrected?

MR. VAN GRACK: Yes, Your Honor, that would be correct, which is that the conduct ended, I believe, in mid-November 2016.

THE COURT: All right. That’s what I thought, and I felt terrible about that. I just want the record clear on that. You agree with that, Counsel?

MR. KELNER: Yes, Your Honor.”Thanks. He was only working for Turkey for money until after the election and lied about that too.

Now that we have that straightened out, why did Sullivan restrict Flynn's travel?

Explain.

[Spurs Homer]

Tsa shitting the bed multiple times

bed shitting traitor

[spurraider21]

No that was the prosecution and Kelner agreed afterwards :lol

lawyer21 :lol
i'm missing your point here.

kelner, flynn's attorney, confirmed to the judge that flynn's got more cooperating to do. and that's why sullivan continued the sentencing hearing for a few months.

you earlier claimed sullivan continued the hearing because he had more questions about the FBI and Mueller

[ElNono]

Judge was wrong and nothing amounted to treason per Mueller’s team.

“THE COURT: All right. I just want to ask a couple of questions. This is directed to either government counsel or defense counsel. I made a statement about Mr. Flynn acting as a foreign agent while serving in the White House. I may have misspoken. Does that need to be corrected?

MR. VAN GRACK: Yes, Your Honor, that would be correct, which is that the conduct ended, I believe, in mid-November 2016.

THE COURT: All right. That’s what I thought, and I felt terrible about that. I just want the record clear on that. You agree with that, Counsel?

MR. KELNER: Yes, Your Honor.”

Judge isn’t the one making charges, he’s the guy asking the questions since he has approve the plea deal. As part of that inquiry he has to determine if the deal serves the public interest (this is government vs Flynn).

Prosecutors can argue that Flynn should also get a medal, but the judge’s job is to determine that the deal makes sense.

[Pavlov]

i'm missing your point here.

kelner, flynn's attorney, confirmed to the judge that flynn's got more cooperating to do.THE POINT IS THE JUDGE RESTRICTED FLYNN'S TRAVEL TO KEEP THE DEEP STATE FROM RENDITIONING HIM TO 50 MILES AWAY

[TSA]

Thanks. He was only working for Turkey for money until after the election and lied about that too.

Now that we have that straightened out, why did Sullivan restrict Flynn's travel?

Explain.

He ceased his work with Turkey before he was named NATSEC by Trump.

Your question on the travel restriction was already answered.

[TSA]

Judge isn’t the one making charges, he’s the guy asking the questions since he has approve the plea deal. As part of that inquiry he has to determine if the deal serves the public interest (this is government vs Flynn).

Prosecutors can argue that Flynn should also get a medal, but the judge’s job is to determine that the deal makes sense.

The judge made a statement he had to walk back. The questions came after.

“I made a statement about Mr. Flynn acting as a foreign agent while serving in the White House.”

[Chris]

i'm missing your point here.

You fucked up and I corrected you.




kelner, flynn's attorney, confirmed to the judge that flynn's got more cooperating to do. and that's why sullivan continued the sentencing hearing for a few months.

Yes, that was what I corrected you on.


you earlier claimed sullivan continued the hearing because he had more questions about the FBI and Mueller

Yes, he's concerned Flynn plead guilty to a crime he didn't commit, which he made clear at the beginning of the hearing.

[Chris]

THE POINT IS THE JUDGE RESTRICTED FLYNN'S TRAVEL TO KEEP THE DEEP STATE FROM RENDITIONING HIM TO 50 MILES AWAY

Not sure why you are so hung up on this. It is my understanding that this is SOP.

[Pavlov]

He ceased his work with Turkey before he was named NATSEC by Trump.Great, why do you think he lied about his business with Turkey?


Your question on the travel restriction was already answered.Did I miss it?

What was your answer?

Oh, SOP for a guy he wanted to free.

Why wasn't he restricted in the first place? He had already pleaded guilty.

It was the DIA, right?

[Pavlov]

Not sure why you are so hung up on this. It is my understanding that this is SOP.SOP for guys they wanted to free?

lol OK.

[spurraider21]

You fucked up and I corrected you.

Yes, that was what I corrected you on.
not really sure where i fucked up. flynn's attorney indicated that he had more cooperating to do. did he not? is your concern that kelner wasn't the first person to mention it at the hearing?


Yes, he's concerned Flynn plead guilty to a crime he didn't commit, which he made clear at the beginning of the hearing.
yup. and then both flynn and his attorney alleviated those concerns by answering a series of questions for sullivan. to the point where sullivan said:

"I am satisfied that Mr. Flynn entered his guilty plea while competent and capable. He understood at that time the nature of the charges against him and the consequences of pleading guilty. Having carefully read all the materials provided to the Court in this case, including those materials reviewed under seal and in-camera, I conclude that there was and remains to be a factual basis for Mr. Flynn's plea of guilty. As such, there's no reason to reject his guilty plea and I'll, therefore, move on to the sentencing phase."

at what point did sullivan imply that his decision to continuing sentencing was because he has further questions about mueller and the fbi?

[Winehole23]

Chris caught in a rut. So strongly influenced by a narrative he can't see it any other way.

It's kind of hilarious posters think judges and courts must reflect their thoughts and feelings, and are necessarily corrupt if they don't.

[clambake]

Chris caught in a rut. So strongly influenced by a narrative he can't see it any other way.

It's kind of hilarious posters think judges and courts must reflect their thoughts and feelings, and are necessarily corrupt if they don't.

i think the black guy screwed with their indoctrination.

[Pavlov]

IT CAN'T BE THAT FLYNN LIED TO THE FEDS AND ADMITTED TO IT

IT JUST CAN'T BE

[spurraider21]

IT CAN'T BE THAT FLYNN LIED TO THE FEDS AND ADMITTED TO IT

IT JUST CAN'T BE
well besides the fact that he intentionally committed the felony to expose the fbi and pwn the libs

[Pavlov]

i think the black guy screwed with their indoctrination.Not coincidentally, Black President made Flynn start down the same conspiracy highway upon which TSAnon and Qhris are currently wearing out their tires.

[clambake]

Not coincidentally, Black President made Flynn start down the same conspiracy highway upon which TSAnon and Qhris are currently wearing out their tires.

yeah, and then black guy tells trump all about it.

[Pavlov]

well besides the fact that he intentionally committed the felony to expose the fbi and pwn the libs1) Lie to administration officials.

2) Tell the same lie to the press.

3) Tell the same lie to the FBI, committing a felony.

4) ??????????????????????????

5) Susan Rice sent to GITMO.

[Pavlov]

yeah, and then black guy tells trump all about it.:lol

That's the best part. Black President did Orange President a solid and that stupid motherfucker didn't listen.

[Winehole23]

:lol @ Susan Rice sent to GITMO

[Winehole23]

i think the black guy screwed with their indoctrination.No lie, that guy was the last moderate Republican.

[DarrinS]

“I explained that in light of the significant media coverage and public discussion about his recent contacts with Russian representatives, that Director Comey and I felt that we needed to have two of our agents sit down with the General and hear from him the details of those conversations.”

Is the FBI a PR firm for the WH?

And if they already had a recording of the conversation, why the need to interview him?

[Pavlov]

“I explained that in light of the significant media coverage and public discussion about his recent contacts with Russian representatives, that Director Comey and I felt that we needed to have two of our agents sit down with the General and hear from him the details of those conversations.”

Is the FBI a PR firm for the WH?

And if they already had a recording of the conversation, why the need to interview him?Flynn had already lied to the administration and the press. At that point it wasn't a criminal investigation. They wanted to see what Flynn up to. Maybe they thought he had some Super Spook reason why he was lying like TSA now thinks he does.

[DarrinS]

Flynn had already lied to the administration and the press. At that point it wasn't a criminal investigation. They wanted to see what Flynn up to. Maybe they thought he had some Super Spook reason why he was lying like TSA now thinks he does.

Nothing criminal in the recorded transcript, or they wouldn't have used "media coverage and public discussion" to justify their interview. Since they had the transcript, and it contained nothing criminal, what were they trying to accomplish with their interview?

[Pavlov]

Nothing criminal in the recorded transcript, or they wouldn't have used "media coverage and public discussion" to justify their interview. Since they had the transcript, and it contained nothing criminal, what were they trying to accomplish with their interview?To see why Flynn was lying to the administration and the press about Russian contacts. Maybe they thought he might have had a reason to lie.

Why did Flynn lie to the FBI agents, Darrin?

[Winehole23]

If Flynn didn't lie to the FBI, he lied to the judge yesterday.

[clambake]

i still get a kick outta anti-christ. back to darrins after black guy gone.

[Pavlov]

I mean this wasn't the only thing Flynn lied to the feds about. He lied about his Turkey deals as well.

Why did he lie about that, Darrin?

[DarrinS]

"According to court documents filed by the special counsel's team, Flynn lied when he told investigators that he did not ask Kislyak to "refrain from escalating the situation" in response to sanctions that then-President Obama had levied on Russia in response to meddling in the election.

Mueller also charged that Flynn lied when he said he did not ask the ambassador to stymie an unrelated United Nations Security Council vote. "


Treason

[Pavlov]

"According to court documents filed by the special counsel's team, Flynn lied when he told investigators that he did not ask Kislyak to "refrain from escalating the situation" in response to sanctions that then-President Obama had levied on Russia in response to meddling in the election.

Mueller also charged that Flynn lied when he said he did not ask the ambassador to stymie an unrelated United Nations Security Council vote. "


TreasonNo, it's lying to the FBI.

Why are you making with the straw man, Darrin?

[Spurs Homer]

Tsa: “flynn told the judge under oath that he is guilty of lying to the fbi and that he did not feel ambushed by the fbi.
I bet that is exactly what he wants us to believe! No fuckin’ way!”

[DarrinS]

No, it's lying to the FBI.

Why are you making with the straw man, Darrin?


"During the interview, the FBI agents gave the defendant multiple opportunities to correct his false statements by revisiting key questions. When the defendant said he did not remember something they knew he said, they used the exact words the defendant had used in order to prompt a truthful response. "

"Don't remember"

Works for Comey. :lol

[spurraider21]

"During the interview, the FBI agents gave the defendant multiple opportunities to correct his false statements by revisiting key questions. When the defendant said he did not remember something they knew he said, they used the exact words the defendant had used in order to prompt a truthful response. "

"Don't remember"

Works for Comey. :lol
totally. no way he's gonna plead guilty.

[Pavlov]

"During the interview, the FBI agents gave the defendant multiple opportunities to correct his false statements by revisiting key questions. When the defendant said he did not remember something they knew he said, they used the exact words the defendant had used in order to prompt a truthful response. "

"Don't remember"

Works for Comey. :lolWorks for the federal court system.

Works for Flynn.

Doesn't work for Darrin.

Why does it no work for you, Darrin, after Flynn admitted to lying to the FBI in open court after admitting it in a plea?

State your case.

[DarrinS]

But, for FBI agents, lying goes by the euphemism "lack of candor".

McCabe fired for this

[ElNono]

The judge made a statement he had to walk back. The questions came after.

“I made a statement about Mr. Flynn acting as a foreign agent while serving in the White House.”

Stop moving the goalposts, we were talking about treason... the point being that the sole reason the judge didn’t simply sign off in the plea deal is simply because he deems Flynn’s crime serious enough to warrant further collaboration, at the very least.

[DarrinS]

Works for the federal court system.

Works for Flynn.

Doesn't work for Darrin.

Why does it no work for you, Darrin, after Flynn admitted to lying to the FBI in open court after admitting it in a plea?

State your case.


I suspect he was either going bankrupt, or they had something on his son.

[Pavlov]

But, for FBI agents, lying goes by the euphemism "lack of candor".

McCabe fired for thisWhy are you changing the subject, Darrin?

We're talking about Flynn and the crimes to which he admitted.

[Pavlov]

I suspect he was either going bankrupt, or they had something on his son.Otherwise he would be fighting all the charges?

What would the strategy be?

302s?:lol

[DarrinS]

Stop moving the goalposts, we were talking about treason... the point being that the sole reason the judge didn’t simply sign off in the plea deal is simply because he deems Flynn’s crime serious enough to warrant further collaboration, at the very least.


And that judge has been widely criticized for bringing up "treason".

[ElNono]

Chris caught in a rut. So strongly influenced by a narrative he can't see it any other way.

It's kind of hilarious posters think judges and courts must reflect their thoughts and feelings, and are necessarily corrupt if they don't.

What’s more hilarious is to see the mental gymnastics to go from ‘judge will throw the case’ to ‘judge is wrong’ :lol

[DarrinS]

Otherwise he would be fighting all the charges?

What would the strategy be?

302s?:lol



I suspect Mueller's team has deeper pockets than Flynn.

[ElNono]

And that judge has been widely criticized for bringing up "treason".

It’s his job to evaluate that:
1) The charges brought are proper
2) The plea deal adequately addresses the alleged crimes

[Pavlov]

I suspect Mueller's team has deeper pockets than Flynn.I suspect you don't have any legal defense for Flynn's lying about two separate issues; the second time with counsel present.

[DarrinS]

"The document also says top government officials had conflicting reports about why the two agents were interviewing Flynn in the first place.

The committee “received conflicting testimony” from Comey, McCabe, then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates and Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Mary McCord about the "primary purpose" of the interview, the report states.

The report claims that these top FBI and Justice Department officials had different answers regarding whether the agents were “investigating misleading statements to the Vice President, which the Vice President echoed publicly about the content of this calls; a possible violation of the Logan Act; or a desire top obtain more information as part of the counterintelligence investigation into General Flynn.”


What was their goal in interviewing him, when they already had the transcript?

I think I know

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1075559182357671937

[Pavlov]

"The document also says top government officials had conflicting reports about why the two agents were interviewing Flynn in the first place.

The committee “received conflicting testimony” from Comey, McCabe, then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates and Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Mary McCord about the "primary purpose" of the interview, the report states.

The report claims that these top FBI and Justice Department officials had different answers regarding whether the agents were “investigating misleading statements to the Vice President, which the Vice President echoed publicly about the content of this calls; a possible violation of the Logan Act; or a desire top obtain more information as part of the counterintelligence investigation into General Flynn.”


What was their goal in interviewing him, when they already had the transcript?

I think I knowThen spit it out Darrin.

No one is stopping you.

What do you say was their goal?

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1075559182357671937:lmao

[DarrinS]

It’s his job to evaluate that:
1) The charges brought are proper
2) The plea deal adequately addresses the alleged crimes


None of this explains bringing up "treason"

[Pavlov]

Darrin, are you @drawandstrike?

[DarrinS]

Then spit it out Darrin.

No one is stopping you.

What do you say was their goal?


They went in there explicitly to entrap him on false statements

[DarrinS]

Darrin, are you @drawandstrike?

Uh, wtf?

[Pavlov]

They went in there explicitly to entrap him on false statementsWhy did he lie to the FBI agents, Darrin?

[spurraider21]

Darrin, are you @drawandstrike?
https://www.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2018/09/27/Brian_Cates-1.jpg

[Winehole23]

But, for FBI agents, lying goes by the euphemism "lack of candor".

McCabe fired for thisProperly so, I think.

Is that similar to lying about being a Turkish agent and lying about your phone calls to federal investigators?

Do you think the McCabe case is as serious as what Mike Flynn has pleaded guilty to?

[spurraider21]

They went in there explicitly to entrap him on false statements
how did they entrap him?

do you think asking somebody a question is entrapping them to lie?

do you know what entrapment is?

[ElNono]

None of this explains bringing up "treason"

Sure it does. He looked at all the interviews and consulted with prosecutors if a charge of treason was not warranted. Prosecution deemed that was not the case.

The point being that’s his job. They can’t try Flynn again for the same alleged crimes, so the judge’s job is to go through the list of relevant changes and make sure none are missing.

[spurraider21]

man, i remember the good old days when stealth jeff hated trump


This is when the double standard is going to be laid bare. Trump can't be attacked. Ever. Front runner or not. He is a deeply flawed candidate and they know it. That's why they shriek so loudly whenever anyone starts talking back to Trump. It can't be allowed. Whoever starts to talk back to Trump must be instantly shouted down.

Trump can attack whoever he wants at will and anybody who fires back at him is 'destroying the GOP' or something. What bullshit. And it's time to call it what it is: bullshit.

http://drawandstrike.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-nikki-haley-rule-ever-since-south.html

[DarrinS]

Do you think the McCabe case is as serious as what Mike Flynn has pleaded guilty to?

Knowing what Flynn lied about in his phone calls, I'm surprised he lied about it.

I don't know the intent of either Flynn or McCabe's lies, so it's hard to compare the two. Certainly, one is more "serious" in legal terms.

[DarrinS]

Sure it does. He looked at all the interviews and consulted with prosecutors if a charge of treason was not warranted. Prosecution deemed that was not the case.

The point being that’s his job. They can’t try Flynn again for the same alleged crimes, so the judge’s job is to go through the list of relevant changes and make sure none are missing.


Given the information available to the judge (AND PUBLICLY AVAILABLE), there was no excuse to bring up treason.

[DarrinS]

how did they entrap him?

do you think asking somebody a question is entrapping them to lie?

do you know what entrapment is?


Poor choice of words on my part.

[Winehole23]

Knowing what Flynn lied about in his phone calls, I'm surprised he lied about it.What did Flynn lie about?

[Pavlov]

Knowing what Flynn lied about in his phone calls, I'm surprised he lied about it.It's not so surprising since he told the same lies to the administration and the press.

Then he decided he was so good at it, he lied about Turkey to DOJ lawyers with his counsel present.

Dude is a liar.

What's hard to understand here?

[DarrinS]

What did Flynn lie about?

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&p=9641791&viewfull=1#post9641791

[ElNono]

Given the information available to the judge (AND PUBLICLY AVAILABLE), there was no excuse to bring up treason.

Why not? He admittedly lied to federal agents on a NatSec investigation. I get that some of you think the Special Counsel investigation is some sort of weird joke, but it’s not. It’s a serious crime that would involve treason.

[DarrinS]

Why not? He admittedly lied to federal agents on a NatSec investigation. I get that some of you think the Special Counsel investigation is some sort of weird joke, but it’s not. It’s a serious crime that would involve treason.

Judge lacked some basic facts, such as, Flynn was not a foreign agent when he was national agency advisor.

[Pavlov]

Judge lacked some basic facts, such as, Flynn was not a foreign agent when he was national agency advisor.And?

This wasn't the matter in front of him, so he asked. The prosecutor answered what the other possible charges could have and would not have been.

How does this change the fact that Flynn lied to the feds multiple times about multiple subjects?

[Winehole23]

The prosecutors said Flynn was exposed in the conspiracy case involving the Turkish agents, presumably that's one reason why he copped to lying.

[ElNono]

Judge lacked some basic facts, such as, Flynn was not a foreign agent when he was national agency advisor.

He admitted to lying to federal agents and the VP about conversations with a Russian diplomat.

It’s easy to sit here and wave the ‘judge didn’t know’ canard, when not only the judge reviewed and made public the documents, but also went to the extent of asking the defendant if the charges and plea were correct.

Because ‘Brady’ judge didn’t exonerate, now he’s wrong? Come on

[ElNono]

Lots of peeps here pretending to speak for Flynn too. Ridiculous.

[Pavlov]

Lots of peeps here pretending to speak for Flynn too. Ridiculous.Yeah, the guys who were speaking for him managed to fuck him over good even hinting at the conspiracy theories posters here are pimping.

[DarrinS]

He admitted to lying to federal agents and the VP about conversations with a Russian diplomat.

It’s easy to sit here and wave the ‘judge didn’t know’ canard, when not only the judge reviewed and made public the documents, but also went to the extent of asking the defendant if the charges and plea were correct.

Because ‘Brady’ judge didn’t exonerate, now he’s wrong? Come on


Judge was wrong and walked back his comment.

[Winehole23]

So you think the judge's faux pas is exculpating for everything Flynn already pleaded guilty to?

[Pavlov]

Seriously still trying to figure out what Darrin is going on about. He's tried all the talking points Flynn's lawyers used to get him in further jeopardy.

[DarrinS]

So you think the judge's faux pas is exculpating for everything Flynn already pleaded guilty to?

No

[Winehole23]

So what's the problem?

[DarrinS]

So what's the problem?

"Treason" should never have been brought up.

[Winehole23]

When the judge is trying to measure the plea deal against the redacted wrongdoing?

Why not?

[Winehole23]

We don't know how serious the redacted is yet.

[Winehole23]

Do you have a problem with a guy being in the ear of a president to be while working for a foreign government?

I do.

[DarrinS]

Do you have a problem with a guy being in the ear of a president to be while working for a foreign government?

I do.


Me too, but he wasnt.

[Winehole23]

DJT appointed him to his cabinet.

Did he stop working for Turkey after he was paid $200, 000?

[DarrinS]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/flynn-fact-and-narrative/

[Winehole23]

I guess we're supposed to take Flynn's word that thé 200G was no longer effective after his appointment, right?

[Pavlov]

"Treason" should never have been brought up.And?

How does it affect Flynn's pleading guilty?

[Winehole23]

Me too, but he wasnt.

During the campaign?

Sure he was.

[Pavlov]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/flynn-fact-and-narrative/The fact is Flynn pleaded guilty regardless of the narrative you have presented in your posts and the narrative McCarthy has been spewing for months.

[Winehole23]

Obama warned Trump about Flynn.

In retrospect, maybe that was good advice.

[Winehole23]

I guess we're supposed to take Flynn's word that thé 200G was no longer effective after his appointment, right?it's akin to pretending the 21Mil Qatar gave the Clinton Foundation wasn't a bid to influence HRC.

[Winehole23]

Unfortunately for red team, Trump is president and HRC is a has been.

Fortunately for red team, few of their supporters can see the similarity.

[DMC]

I guess we're supposed to take Flynn's word that thé 200G was no longer effective after his appointment, right?

Slippery slope ahead

[ElNono]

Judge was wrong and walked back his comment.

That doesn’t make the entirety of the judge questioning wrong, nor his decision wrong.

Logically, it follows that if the judge was satisfied with the plea deal as is, he wouldn’t have delayed the sentencing pending additional cooperation. In the judge’s view, after reviewing the evidence, Flynn’s crimes are serious enough that do not warrant a get out of jail free card at this time.

[boutons_deux]

Obama warned Trump about Flynn.

In retrospect, maybe that was good advice.

Obama warned dubya about OBL and Muslim terrorism

In retrospect, maybe that was good advice.

[DarrinS]

Obama warned dubya about OBL and Muslim terrorism

In retrospect, maybe that was good advice.


What are you talking about?

[DMC]

That doesn’t make the entirety of the judge questioning wrong, nor his decision wrong.

Logically, it follows that if the judge was satisfied with the plea deal as is, he wouldn’t have delayed the sentencing pending additional cooperation. In the judge’s view, after reviewing the evidence, Flynn’s crimes are serious enough that do not warrant a get out of jail free card at this time.

Would not be surprised if the judge recuses himself from this case.

[ElNono]

Would not be surprised if the judge recuses himself from this case.

Why? Is there some conflict of interest?

What I think it’s likely to happen is that the judge will accept the plea deal (in which case sentencing goes along the prosecution request), or he does not and at that point either a new deal is crafted or that decision appealed.

[DMC]

Why? Is there some conflict of interest?

What I think it’s likely to happen is that the judge will accept the plea deal (in which case sentencing goes along the prosecution request), or he does not and at that point either a new deal is crafted or that decision appealed.

Comments he made based on false assumptions illustrate his bias.

Needing to issue a retraction post rant doesn't look good.

[ElNono]

Comments he made based on false assumptions illustrate his bias.

Needing to issue a retraction post rant doesn't look good.

Law isn’t about optics. Ultimately, if the defense feels he reached the wrong conclusion, they can request a review from a higher instance.

[DMC]

Law isn’t about optics. Ultimately, if the defense feels he reached the wrong conclusion, they can request a review from a higher instance.

It's obviously a high profile case. Appearance is important. These moments aren't just about law. Names are made or tarnished, and often it seems some grandstanding occurs when there's a media moment.

[Spurs Homer]

It's obviously a high profile case. Appearance is important. These moments aren't just about law. Names are made or tarnished, and often it seems some grandstanding occurs when there's a media moment.

Republican judge bad now.

[djohn2oo8]

Judge should recuse himself? Or maybe Flynn shouldn’t have lied.

[Winehole23]

nm.

[Winehole23]

It's obviously a high profile case. Appearance is important. These moments aren't just about law. Names are made or tarnished, and often it seems some grandstanding occurs when there's a media moment.det narrative

[boutons_deux]

William Barr, Trump’s Attorney General Pick, Criticized Mueller Probe In Memo: WSJ

Barr reportedly described the special counsel’s probe into potential obstruction of justice by President Donald Trump as “fatally misconceived.”

sent an “unsolicited memo” to the Justice Department earlier this year in which he lambasted part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s ongoing Russia investigation.

Barr said Mueller’s probe into potential obstruction of justice by President Trump was based on a “fatally misconceived” theory,

He told The Hill (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/338042-trump-allies-on-the-offensive-against-special-counsel-mueller)last year that “leaks” from the special counsel’s team “raise questions as to whether there is an agenda.”

He’s also suggested that Mueller’s team was not politically “balanced” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/07/05/as-mueller-grows-his-russia-special-counsel-team-every-hire-is-under-scrutiny/?utm_term=.0a1f174a9aee) because some members had donated to Democratic candidates.


Barr argued that, based on his understanding of the facts,

Trump had been acting well within his authority as president when he allegedly suggested to then-FBI director James Comey (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/comey-memos-wildest-revelations_us_5ad9c15ae4b029ebe0231c0a) that an investigation into former national security advisor Michael Flynn should be dropped.

Per the Journal:


Mr. Barr’s memo is peppered with strongly worded phrases about the peril he sees in Mr. Mueller’s reading of the law, as he understood it.

He described Mr. Mueller’s approach as “grossly irresponsible” with “potentially disastrous implications” for the executive branch.

He also wrote: “Mueller should not be permitted to demand that the President submit to interrogation about alleged obstruction.”


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/william-barr-mueller-investigation-memo_us_5c1b5596e4b08aaf7a851877?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__122018&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__122018+CID_7fec889b 82f456bda545d50ca350bda3&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__122018

iow, the Trash's perfect AG to fire Mueller

[ElNono]

It's obviously a high profile case. Appearance is important. These moments aren't just about law. Names are made or tarnished, and often it seems some grandstanding occurs when there's a media moment.

Of course its only about the law in the courtroom. Doesn’t mean they always get it right, but that’s why there’s multiple instances. The court of public opinion shouldn’t influence the court at all. That’s why in a lot of high profile cases there’s specific ways to deal with juries to ensure they’re not polluted with outside opinion.

[ElNono]

I mean Flynn’s defense team can always request a recusal. Seems premature though, as the judge hasn’t ruled out accepting the current plea deal.

[djohn2oo8]

1075773729970376710

lmao Mueller grabbed Nunes by the pussy

[Winehole23]

1075773729970376710

lmao Mueller grabbed Nunes by the pussyhow's that?

[djohn2oo8]

how's that?
Nunes, the same Uber cowboy running interference for Trump who blocked subpoenas of Stone, and other witnesses now all of a sudden votes to give info to Mueller

[Winehole23]

why would Congress refuse such a request?

if they had refused you'd accuse them of carrying water for DJT and covering up lies.

in your mind they're either pussies or corrupt, with no third option -- no pat on the fanny for doing the right thing.

[Spurs Homer]

why would Congress refuse such a request?

if they had refused you'd accuse them of carrying water for DJT and covering up lies.

in your mind they're either pussies or corrupt, with no third option -- no pat on the fanny for doing the right thing.

they have been refusing to subpoena witnesses, documents and refusing to compel trump team to answer questions for two years now

nunes has also run to the white house and informed trump on evidence against him

disgraceful

[Winehole23]

they have been refusing to subpoena witnesses, documents and refusing to compel trump team to answer questions for two years now

nunes has also run to the white house and informing trump on evidence against him

didgracefulHowever that may be, whoever's in the majority gets to run the House inquiry how they like.

I won't disagree that Nunes is a contemptible weasel, but that hardly distinguishes him from his peers.

One of the things that causes posters like you and djohn to lose credibility is your apparent unwillingness to credit Republicans for their good deeds.

[Spurs Homer]

However that may be, whoever's in the majority gets to run the House inquiry how they like.

I won't disagree that Nunes is a contemptible weasel, but that hardly distinguishes him from his peers.

One of the things that causes posters like you and djohn to lose credibility is your apparent unwillingness to credit Republicans for their good deeds.

I never denied giving credit - good that they agreed to release Stone's transcript -
NOT good that the DEMS had been begging for months and months for this to be done and were denied.

They asked for ALL the transcripts to be released - Trump jr, Bannon, hope hicks etc... and they were denied.
When Bannon and the rest came to testify and were asked a question they refused to answer and were asked why. They said the white house requested them to refuse to answer.

The dems asked the Repubs to compel them to testify or be held in contempt - they refused.

The dems stated that they felt several witnesses might have perjured themselves and asked the majority to subpoena them to come and clarify their answers - and were denied.


This travesty went on for two years and now the Repubs see they can refuse - and then two weeks from now - the Dems will release anyway - so the Repugs suddenly go along? This deserves credit?

Ok, thanks very much Repugs - nice looking out for the country! :clap:clap

[Winehole23]

NOT good that the DEMS had been begging for months and months for this to be done and were denied.

They asked for ALL the transcripts to be released - Trump jr, Bannon, hope hicks etc... and they were denied.Elections have consequences, now the Dems will have their own turn at selective disclosure.

[Spurs Homer]

Elections have consequences, now the Dems will have their own turn at selective disclosure.

This kind of thinking is really harmful IMO.

How did we get to a place where obstructing justice, defending suspects and even covering their crimes is just a matter of R vs. D?
How is it that you can even think for a second that if a party wins an election they can just become "criminals during our majority term?"

How does one arrive at this thinking?

Now that the Dems are in control of the house - do you think for one second that I would support them if they suddenly started obstructing investigations of criminal wrong doing?
Do you think I would applaud them and support them if they suddenly found out that a Dem committed crimes - or was suspected of that - and then they began to defend his crimes?

SMH

[boutons_deux]

Robert Mueller Just Dropped A Major Clue That He’s Heading Straight For Donald Trump Jr.

According to The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-seeks-roger-stones-testimony-to-house-intelligence-panel-suggesting-special-counsel-is-near-end-of-probe-of-trump-adviser/2018/12/19/ac5c3ee6-0226-11e9-b5df-5d3874f1ac36_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.16651b6c8f7c), the special counsel has asked the House Intelligence Committee for a transcript of former Trump adviser Roger Stone’s testimony.

The report notes, “Securing an official transcript from the committee would be a necessary step before pursuing an indictment that Stone allegedly lied to lawmakers, legal experts said.”

While this is a sign that Mueller could be on the verge of indicting Stone,

it could also spell doom for Donald Trump Jr. as the special counsel is looking into whether the president’s aides and family members lied to Congress during their testimony.

During a discussion on MSNBC, David Corn, Mother Jones Washington bureau chief, pointed out why the president’s eldest son should be concerned.

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/19/mueller-major-clue-don-jr.html

[TSA]

Nunes, the same Uber cowboy running interference for Trump who blocked subpoenas of Stone, and other witnesses now all of a sudden votes to give info to Mueller

Roger stone requested they be released:lol

https://www.scribd.com/document/396096341/Roger-Stone-request-for-transcript-release

[djohn2oo8]

Roger stone requested they be released:lol

https://www.scribd.com/document/396096341/Roger-Stone-request-for-transcript-release
And Mueller requested them. Which means he believes Stone lies. :)

[djohn2oo8]

1075813095082262528
TSA. You okay with this?

[Chris]

Roger stone requested they be released:lol

https://www.scribd.com/document/396096341/Roger-Stone-request-for-transcript-release

:lmao

[Winehole23]

TSA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640). You okay with this?
At the same time the requests were being made, Treasury officials were using their government email accounts to send messages back and forth with a network of private Hotmail and Gmail accounts set up by the Russians, rather than communicating through the secure network usually used to exchange information with other countries.

Analysts at an elite agency within Treasury first warned supervisors in 2016 that the Russians were “manipulating the system” to conduct “fishing expeditions.” And they raised fears that the Treasury’s internal systems could be compromised by viruses contained in emails from the unofficial Russian accounts. But staff continued using the Gmail back channel into 2017, despite repeated internal warnings that Russia could be trawling for sensitive financial records — including Social Security and bank account numbers — to spy on, endanger, or recruit targets in the West.

The Treasury Department refused to tell BuzzFeed News why its officials were communicating with unofficial Gmail accounts at the same time that Russia was sending the suspicious requests, or to say whether it eventually turned over any documents in response. Nor would officials answer any other specific questions about the matter. very bad op-sec, and what a coincidence!

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao
1075799189601300482

:)

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1075855917562908673

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1075855917562908673:lol

[djohn2oo8]

Mueller’s probe to remain under Rosenstein’s supervision

[Chris]

Mueller’s probe to remain under Rosenstein’s supervision

AG Whitaker in charge of oversight on Mueller.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/KimStrassel/status/1075772939088228359

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/KimStrassel/status/1075772939088228359Flynn repeatedly admitted to repeatedly lying to the feds.

No one can spin that.

[Pavlov]

AG Whitaker in charge of oversight on Mueller.
:lmao
1075862306238726150

[Chris]

lol Madcow

[Pavlov]

lol MadcowChris didn't read the article; doing the troll thing.

[djohn2oo8]

Chris didn't read the article; doing the troll thing.
And Whitaker is not AG. He is acting AG. :rollin Chris

[Pavlov]

And Whitaker is not AG. He is acting AG. :rollin ChrisI'm sure the Bloomberg name triggers Qhris too, but here's another:
1075853185514962944

[Chris]

And Whitaker is not AG. He is acting AG. :rollin Chris

djohn thinks he scored a point here :rollin

[Chucho]

djohn thinks he scored a point here :rollin


You have no idea how similar you guys are. I still think you're a bit smarter since you do have the ability to articulate unique thoughts and sometimes get a good gem out of your troll game. djohn...well, yeah...

[spurraider21]

You have no idea how similar you guys are. I still think you're a bit smarter since you do have the ability to articulate unique thoughts and sometimes get a good gem out of your troll game. djohn...well, yeah...
https://media.giphy.com/media/53lN577WPCFGM/giphy.gif

[Chucho]

https://media.giphy.com/media/53lN577WPCFGM/giphy.gif

:lol

They're "unique". That's as far as it goes. djohn is just a Twitter shit-spammer.

[spurraider21]

:lol

They're "unique". That's as far as it goes. djohn is just a Twitter shit-spammer.
i mean chris is basically also a twitter spammer (who has been suspended from twitter for bot-like behavior) + weird luciferian conspiracies

but i guess that counts as something? :lol

[djohn2oo8]

djohn thinks he scored a point here :rollin
Trump has already made his pick. And it’s not Whitaker. Trumps pick is up for confirmation

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/breaking9111/status/1075903052316598272

[Spurminator]

You have no idea how similar you guys are. I still think you're a bit smarter since you do have the ability to articulate unique thoughts and sometimes get a good gem out of your troll game. djohn...well, yeah...

Counterpoint: I've never seen djohn post a source as stupid as Bill Mitchell. Or, Donald Trump.

[TSA]

1075813095082262528
TSA. You okay with this?

No I’m not okay with it, but I didn’t here you bitching about when it happened under Obama’s watch.

“The extraordinary unofficial line of communication arose in the final year of the Obama administration — in the midst of what multiple US intelligence agencies have said was a secret campaign by the Kremlin to interfere in the US election.”

You really should read past a tweet headeline before posting it you stupid fuck :rollin

[TSA]

Counterpoint: I've never seen djohn post a source as stupid as Bill Mitchell. Or, Donald Trump.


Seriously?

Louise Mensch
Eric Garland
John Schindler
The Krassenstein brothers

Need I go on?

[TSA]

You have no idea how similar you guys are. I still think you're a bit smarter since you do have the ability to articulate unique thoughts and sometimes get a good gem out of your troll game. djohn...well, yeah...

Chris trolls the shit out of you guys on a daily basis. It’s fascinating to watch.

[spurraider21]

Chris trolls the shit out of you guys on a daily basis. It’s fascinating to watch.
but he doesn't do the troll thing

[djohn2oo8]

Seriously?

Louise Mensch
Eric Garland
John Schindler
The Krassenstein brothers

Need I go on?
Child pizza sex shops. That was your theory.

[spurraider21]

Child pizza sex shops. That was your theory.
#chickenlover

[ElNono]

:lol @ peeps that bought into pizzagate and Anon phase 3, waiving it off as trolling...

I was just kidding, srs!

[Spurminator]

Seriously?

Louise Mensch
Eric Garland
John Schindler
The Krassenstein brothers

Need I go on?

As compared to Bill Mitchell and Donald Trump? I stand by my statement.

[Spurminator]

:lol @ peeps that bought into pizzagate and Anon phase 3, waiving it off as trolling...

I was just kidding, srs!

Someday they will claim the hours and hours they spent dedicating themselves to pushing pro-Trump messaging was just trolling too. It's an easy alternative to admitting you were duped by an obvious con job.

[ElNono]

Just triggering dem libs! Don’t mind me! :lol

[Winehole23]

1075936660678791168

[DarrinS]

This story went under the radar

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/politics/james-wolfe-sentencing/index.html


Nice to have letters of support from Obama and Brennan.

[Winehole23]

This story went under the radar

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/politics/james-wolfe-sentencing/index.html


Nice to have letters of support from Obama and Brennan.But no good luck tweet from the president.

What did the guy leak?

[Pavlov]

This story went under the radar

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/politics/james-wolfe-sentencing/index.html


Nice to have letters of support from Obama and Brennan.Obama and Brennan?


Wolfe's attorneys requested no prison time and suggested probation and community service instead. In support of his request for no prison time, they submitted letters of support from the leadership of the Senate Intelligence Committee as well as former top officials, including former President Barack Obama's chief of staff, Denis McDonough, and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.

Where did you get the names Obama and Brennan as letter writers?

[clambake]

Obama and Brennan?



Where did you get the names Obama and Brennan as letter writers?
yeah, those guys take orders from obama and brennan.

where's your head, man?