Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Pavlov]

According to a Justice Department official, the remaining redactions in the document are "narrowly tailored to protect the name of a foreign country and the name of a foreign agent." Specifics have been replaced with identifiers like "foreign official" and "foreign government," the official said.

"These words must remain redacted after determining that revealing the words could harm the national security of the American people by undermining the trust we have with this foreign nation," the official continued, adding that they appear "only a limited number of times, and do not obstruct the underlying meaning of the document."

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/382764-doj-gives-house-intel-original-document-that-prompted-russia?amp&__twitter_impression=trueHappy fishing!

[TSA]

He's definitely messing around here.

Did the DOJ fall for his bluff?

[Pavlov]

Did the DOJ fall for his bluff?Fall?

You think they were just going to defy him forever?

:lol What do you think Trump's appointees are hiding from the member of Trump's transition team?

Be specific.

[TSA]

Fall?

You think they were just going to defy him forever?

:lol What do you think Trump's appointees are hiding from the member of Trump's transition team?

Be specific.

You called it a bluff not me. Nunes got what he wanted.

I don’t think Trump’s appointees are hiding anything. Nunes has gotten everything he’s wanted. Can you name something Nunes wanted from the DOJ/FBI that he hasn’t been given?

[Pavlov]

You called it a bluff not me. Nunes got what he wanted.I laughed at it because it meant nothing.


I don’t think Trump’s appointees are hiding anything. Nunes has gotten everything he’s wanted. Can you name something Nunes wanted from the DOJ/FBI that he hasn’t been given?So you agree his threat meant nothing and in this case was especially pointless.

Looks like your still cheering it regardless, just like I said you would.

Thanks!

[Spurminator]

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[Chris]

Hey Chris, do you have any video of Gohmert saying these kinds of things in the eight years he was a Congressman and Mueller was actually the director of the FBI?

Thanks for avoiding this question in advance.

You're welcome!

[Spurminator]

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The President of the United States is pimping unhinged conspiracy news programs.

Dumbest times? Dumbest times.

[Chris]

:cry Stop talking about the real bad guys Hannity :cry
:cry FUCK DRUMPF! :cry

[TSA]

I laughed at it because it meant nothing.

So you agree his threat meant nothing and in this case was especially pointless.

Looks like your still cheering it regardless, just like I said you would.

Thanks!

I already told you earlier I didn’t care enough about Nunes’ threat to comment on it, although it appears his threat worked.

I don’t think Trump’s appointees are hiding anything. Nunes has gotten everything he’s wanted. Can you name something Nunes wanted from the DOJ/FBI that he hasn’t been given?

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

:cheerI already told you earlier I didn’t care enough about Nunes’ threat to comment on it, although it appears his threat worked.:cheerThat's a comment, genius.


I don’t think Trump’s appointees are hiding anything.So why would he have to threaten impeaching those Trump appointees, TSA?

You said his threatening the Trump appointees worked -- why did he have to threaten them?

Please explain.

[TSA]

That's a comment, genius.No shit. I find it hilarious you all laughed at Nunes tactics and hours later his tactics produced the results he wanted. I can point that out and still not give a shit about Nunes’ threats.


So why would he have to threaten impeaching those Trump appointees, TSA?

You said his threatening the Trump appointees worked -- why did he have to threaten them?

Please explain.Nunes obviously wanted documents produced at a faster rate. Wray agreed to double the staff and Sessions agreed to assign another lawyer to speed up and facilitate the production of said documents to congress.

Can you name something Nunes wanted from the DOJ/FBI that he hasn’t been given?

[Pavlov]

:cheerNo shit. I find it hilarious you all laughed at Nunes tactics and hours later his tactics produced the results he wanted. I can point that out and still not give a shit about Nunes’ threats.:cheer I'm still laughing.


Nunes obviously wanted documents produced at a faster rate. Wray agreed to double the staff and Sessions agreed to assign another lawyer to speed up and facilitate the production of said documents to congress.He had already done that and Nunes was still threatening Trump appointees with impeachment.

Why did he threaten Trump appointees with impeachment?

Please explain.

I enjoy your repeating your straw man that somehow the Trump appointees were not going to comply with the oversight request from a member of Trump's transition team.

[DMX7]

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The President of the United States is pimping unhinged conspiracy news programs.

Dumbest times? Dumbest times.

Sean Hannity is 100x more powerful than the vice-president. Hannity must be on a real power trip these days.

[Spurminator]

Sean Hannity is 100x more powerful than the vice-president.

So is Steve Doocy. :lol

[TSA]

I'm still laughing.

He had already done that and Nunes was still threatening Trump appointees with impeachment.

Why did he threaten Trump appointees with impeachment?

Please explain.Nunes obviously wanted documents produced at a faster rate.


Can you name something Nunes wanted from the DOJ/FBI that he hasn’t been given?

[Pavlov]

Sean Hannity is 100x more powerful than the vice-president. Hannity must be on a real power trip these days.Fox and Friends is actually more powerful. It's harder for grandpa to stay up that late after watching cable all day.

[Pavlov]

:cheerNunes obviously wanted documents produced at a faster rate.


Can you name something Nunes wanted from the DOJ/FBI that he hasn’t been given?:cheerI enjoy your repeating your straw man that somehow the Trump appointees were not going to comply with the oversight request from a member of Trump's transition team.

Your theory is he had to threaten the Trump appointees because the Trump appointees were defying their constitutional obligations in giving information to a member of the Trump transition team.

It's a pretty stupid theory for a Trump supporter.

[Chris]

It's for a 2 page document - unredacted.

Contempt & impeachment.

[DarrinS]

Seems fairly obvious that #muhRussia is over

[TSA]

I enjoy your repeating your straw man that somehow the Trump appointees were not going to comply with the oversight request from a member of Trump's transition team.

Your theory is he had to threaten the Trump appointees because the Trump appointees were defying their constitutional obligations in giving information to a member of the Trump transition team.

It's a pretty stupid theory for a Trump supporter.

But but but Trump appointees lol. Such a weak angle you’re pushing.

Are Wray and Rosenstein the actual people fulfilling the document requests or are there other people under them in the DOJ/FBI that are not Trump appointees that could slow walk document production?

[Pavlov]

But but but Trump appointees lol. Such a weak angle you’re pushing.

Are Wray and Rosenstein the actual people fulfilling the document requests or are there other people under them in the DOJ/FBI that are not Trump appointees that could slow walk document production?They are the ones Nunes threatened to impeach.

A member of the Trump transition team threatened to impeach two Trump appointees. Your theory now is that people under the command of Trump appointees were slow walking the process so the member of the Trump transition team needed to threaten the Trump appointees with impeachment.

lol

[Spurminator]

But but but Trump appointees lol. Such a weak angle you’re pushing.

<::Flashback Music::>


The recommendation came from an Obama appointee and a Mueller appointee dumbass.


Why would I not take the word from offices headed by an Obama and Mueller appointee?


We aren't taking the word of the Trump administration on McCabe lying under oath, we are taking the word of the OIG (Obama appointee) and the FBI OPR (Mueller appointee).


It was a political witch hunt! A Democrat called for investigation lead by an Obama appointee got McCabe fired!

:rollin


He was fired for evidence uncovered by an Obama appointee that was running an investigation that Democrats called for and received.

[Spurminator]

:lol Brilliant move by Trump. You are dumber than I thought and took the bait. Trump just told the public Horowitz is an Obama appointee. Trump is clearly distancing himself from Sessions and Horowitz so when the two of them drop the hammer the left can't say Trump forced them to act.

Forgot about this one. Remember when the Media let Trump off the hook for potential obstruction because he was critical of Sessions?

Amazing.

[TSA]

They are the ones Nunes threatened to impeach.

A member of the Trump transition team threatened to impeach two Trump appointees. Your theory now is that people under the command of Trump appointees were slow walking the process so the member of the Trump transition team needed to threaten the Trump appointees with impeachment.

lol

Try again.

Are Wray and Rosenstein the actual people fulfilling the document requests or are there other people under them in the DOJ/FBI that are not Trump appointees that could slow walk document production?

[Pavlov]

Try again.

Are Wray and Rosenstein the actual people fulfilling the document requests or are there other people under them in the DOJ/FBI that are not Trump appointees that could slow walk document production?Try again.

Wray and Rosenstein are the actual Trump appointees the member of Trump's transition team threatened to impeach.

Why?

[Spurminator]

Try again.

Are Wray and Rosenstein the actual people fulfilling the document requests or are there other people under them in the DOJ/FBI that are not Trump appointees that could slow walk document production?

We get it. You believe Nunes successfully got Wray and Rosenstein's Obama-sympathizing underlings to more quickly provide Russia documents by threatening to impeach Wray and Rosenstein. It makes perfect sense. Brilliant move.

[TSA]

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You put a lot of effort in to just fail like that.

[Spurminator]

You put a lot of effort in to just fail like that.

lol "fail"

I assure you this forum's search function is quite easy.

[TSA]

Try again.

Wray and Rosenstein are the actual Trump appointees the member of Trump's transition team threatened to impeach.

Why?
They are heading the departments producing the requested documents. That was a really stupid question.

I’m losing track of your dodges already.

Are Wray and Rosenstein the actual people fulfilling the document requests or are there other people under them in the DOJ/FBI that are not Trump appointees that could slow walk document production?

[TSA]

lol "fail"

I assure you this forum's search function is quite easy.

Should I congratulate you for putting in minimal effort to fail just like that?

[TSA]

We get it. You believe Nunes successfully got Wray and Rosenstein's Obama-sympathizing underlings to more quickly provide Russia documents by threatening to impeach Wray and Rosenstein. It makes perfect sense. Brilliant move.

Do you have an alternate explanation?

[Pavlov]

They are heading the departments producing the requested documents. That was a really stupid question.And your theory is the two Trump appointees were allowing underlings to delay the collection and transfer of information to the member of Trump's transition team.

Therefore, the Trump transition team member threatened to impeach two Trump appointees.

This is your theory.

lol

[Spurminator]

Should I congratulate you for putting in minimal effort to fail just like that?

I think what you should do is continue to put superhuman effort into being a stubbornly dishonest stooge.

[Pavlov]

Do you have an alternate explanation?Yeah, my theory is Nunes is just trying to provide more cover for Trump to fire Rosenstein.

But why would a member of Trump's transition team try to make it easier for Trump to fire a Trump appointee?

lol

[Reck]

Seems fairly obvious that #muhRussia is over

Oh really?

[TSA]

And your theory is the two Trump appointees were allowing underlings to delay the collection and transfer of information to the member of Trump's transition team.

Therefore, the Trump transition team member threatened to impeach two Trump appointees.

This is your theory.

lolNice try throwing allowing in there. Still dodging.

Are Wray and Rosenstein the actual people fulfilling the document requests or are there other people under them in the DOJ/FBI that are not Trump appointees that could slow walk document production?

[Spurminator]

Do you have an alternate explanation?

Sure... The documents were turned in, and also Devin Nunes is a media whore with a validation complex.

[Spurminator]

Are Wray and Rosenstein the actual people fulfilling the document requests or are there other people under them in the DOJ/FBI that are not Trump appointees that could slow walk document production?

Seriously, in what parallel universe is this an intelligent question?

Yes, there are people under them. How does that support your theory that Devin Nunes strong-dicked Wray and Rosenstein into hurrying up to turn them in?

[Pavlov]

Nice try throwing allowing in there.It's your theory.

They're the ones who were threatened with impeachment.

Your theory is now that Nunes threatened impeachment for no actual reason relating to the handing over of documents.

I agree.

[TSA]

Yeah, my theory is Nunes is just trying to provide more cover for Trump to fire Rosenstein.

But why would a member of Trump's transition team try to make it easier for Trump to fire a Trump appointee?

lol

Nunes wouldn’t be able to complain about not receiving requested documents if they were produced when requested. For your theory to make sense Nunes would need someone inside the DOJ/FBI to be slow walking the production of the documents in order to give Nunes cover.

Stupid theory you came up with.

[Pavlov]

Seriously, in what parallel universe is this an intelligent question?

Yes, there are people under them. How does that support your theory that Devin Nunes strong-dicked Wray and Rosenstein into hurrying up to turn them in?TSA says they weren't allowing them to slow it down. He makes less and less sense with every post.

[Pavlov]

Nunes wouldn’t be able to complain about not receiving requested documents if they were produced when requested. For your theory to make sense Nunes would need someone inside the DOJ/FBI to be slow walking the production of the documents in order to give Nunes cover.

Stupid theory you came up with.So your theory is Wray and Rosenstein were allowing the slow walking and deserved those threats from your favorite tough guy. Next to Trump, of course.

OK.

[TSA]

Seriously, in what parallel universe is this an intelligent question?

Yes, there are people under them. How does that support your theory that Devin Nunes strong-dicked Wray and Rosenstein into hurrying up to turn them in?

Explain how Nunes could strong-dick the people working underneath Wray/Rosenstein?

[TSA]

Sure... The documents were turned in, and also Devin Nunes is a media whore with a validation complex.

Timing of the threat and production just a coincidence in your alternate explanation?

[Pavlov]

Timing of the threat and production just a coincidence in your alternate explanation?I don't remember impeachment talk before the Cohen raids tbh.

But I could be wrong.

[Spurminator]

Explain how Nunes could strong-dick the people working underneath Wray/Rosenstein?

The strong-dicking is your theory, not mine. Why would I explain your theory?

Is this your new bit? Repetitious demands for justification of an opinion someone doesn't have?

[TSA]

So your theory is Wray and Rosenstein were allowing the slow walking and deserved those threats from your favorite tough guy. Next to Trump, of course.

OK.You’re rebuttals are weak tonight.

Can Wray/Rosenstein not allow slow walking yet slow walking still occurs? Yes or no.

[TSA]

The strong-dicking is your theory, not mine. Why would I explain your theory?

Is this your new bit? Repetitious demands for justification of an opinion someone doesn't have?

Explain your theory. Timing of the threat and production just a coincidence in your alternate explanation?

[DarrinS]

Oh really?

Yep

[Spurminator]

Timing of the threat and production just a coincidence in your alternate explanation?

Most likely.

That said, given Nunes' media-whore tendencies, I suppose he could have timed his demands around the time he knew the documents were going to be turned in. In that situation I suppose it wouldn't technically be a coincidence.

[Pavlov]

You’re rebuttals are weak tonight.

Can Wray/Rosenstein not allow slow walking yet slow walking still occurs? Yes or no.If it's happening, they're allowing it to happen.

It's your theory.

[Pavlov]

YepBased upon what?

Because you've said this for almost a year now.

[Spurminator]

Darrin checks in with post ~1000 to remind everyone of his lack of interest in this topic.

[DarrinS]

Based upon what?

Because you've said this for almost a year now.

Because there’s nothing there.

[DarrinS]

Darrin checks in with post ~1000 to remind everyone of his lack of interest in this topic.

*ding

[Pavlov]

Because there’s nothing there.Based on what?

Your intimate knowledge of the Special Counsel investigation?

Your listening to talk radio?

That tweet you read?

[DarrinS]

#muhPostCount

[DarrinS]

Based on what?

Your intimate knowledge of the Special Counsel investigation?

Your listening to talk radio?

That tweet you read?


My seeing nothing for over a year

[Pavlov]

My seeing nothing for over a yearWhere did you look?

Hannity?

Rush?

Your posts here?

[Reck]

Yep

Details.

What? Did you watch Hannity and got a hard on or something? You're pathetic, old man.

[DarrinS]

Details.

What? Did you watch Hannity and got a hard on or something? You're pathetic, old man.

Good stuff, Reckage!

[Spurminator]

My seeing nothing for over a year

Here's an idea. We'll assume you're unconvinced until you tell us otherwise. Continuing to remind us daily of your position only reveals how limited you are when it comes to discussing politics.

[DarrinS]

Where did you look?

Hannity?

Rush?

Your posts here?


Maybe they found the VHS pee tape in Cohen’s office.

[Reck]

Good stuff, Reckage!

Oh that's very original, Darrins.

[Pavlov]

Maybe they found the VHS pee tape in Cohen’s office.Maybe you'd actually answer the question if you didn't want to deflect so badly.

[DarrinS]

Here's an idea. We'll assume you're unconvinced until you tell us otherwise. Continuing to remind us daily of your position only reveals how limited you are when it comes to discussing politics.

Uh, ok. I guess if I posted hourly anti-Trump tweets, I would be awesome at discussing politics. :tu

[Pavlov]

Uh, ok. I guess if I posted hourly anti-Trump tweets, I would be awesome at discussing politics. :tuIt's not a requirement, but why don't you discuss politics in the political forum?

[DarrinS]

Maybe you'd actually answer the question if you didn't want to deflect so badly.

Your question was “where did you look?”

Everywhere

Evidently, the magical collusion with Russia hasn’t been found. In over a year

Hence RIP #muhRussia

[TSA]

If it's happening, they're allowing it to happen.

It's your theory.

Murder is not allowed. Murder happens. You are shook and grasping at straws.

[Spurminator]

Uh, ok. I guess if I posted hourly anti-Trump tweets, I would be awesome at discussing politics. :tu

As long as each one said something different, hourly pro-Trump or anti-Trump tweets would certainly be an improvement.

As it stands, you're just repeating yourself with a personal opinion we already know. It's kind of self-absorbed, tbh.

Like, "Hey guys, just a reminder that I'm not buying it!"

We know. Try a fresh take sometime.

[DarrinS]

As long as each one said something different, hourly pro-Trump or anti-Trump tweets would certainly be an improvement.

As it stands, you're just repeating yourself with a personal opinion we already know. It's kind of self-absorbed, tbh.

Like, "Hey guys, just a reminder that I'm not buying it!"

We know. Try a fresh take sometime.


I haven’t seen anything that’s changed my opinion. They may get him on something else, but it ain’t gonna be about Russia.

[Pavlov]

Murder is not allowed. Murder happens. You are shook and grasping at straws.Murder? :lol You are shook and grasping at murder.

[Spurminator]

I haven’t seen anything that’s changed my opinion. They may get him on something else, but it ain’t gonna be about Russia.

Was this an attempt to say something new? Again, you're repeating an opinion we already know you have.

[Pavlov]

Nunes didn't threaten impeachment until after the Cohen raid.

If I'm wrong I'd like to see a link to an earlier threat.

[Reck]

Darrins shitty explanation. :lol

:cry Mueller is not letting me see what's going on with his investigation so Russia dead, Trump big ape. WIN!

[Pavlov]

Darrins shitty explanation. :lol

:cry Mueller is not letting me see what's going on with his investigation so Russia dead, Trump big ape. WIN!Nah, Darrin called every move, every investigation, every interview and every indictment.

He's looked EVERYWHERE. He said so.

[TSA]

Murder? :lol You are shook and grasping at murder.

I’m glad you finally see how stupid your argument of things only happen if they’re allowed to happen was.

[Pavlov]

I’m glad you finally see how stupid your argument of things only happen if they’re allowed to happen was.No, it's your trying to compare transferring documents to murder that is pretty much the stupidest thing you have supported since Cat Stevens mind control.

You're still saying they allowed the slow walking.

This is your theory.

[Spurminator]

Guessing the people who allow murder are Obama appointees...

[Pavlov]

Guessing the people who allow murder are Obama appointees...CLINTON APPOINTEE BODY COUNT

[TSA]

No, it's your trying to compare transferring documents to murder that is pretty much the stupidest thing you have supported since Cat Stevens mind control.

You're still saying they allowed the slow walking.

This is your theory.

Things only happen that are allowed to happen. This is your theory. Look how dumb you get when you’re shook.

[Pavlov]

Things only happen that are allowed to happen. This is your theoryIt's Nunes' theory.

Take it up with him.

He threatened to hold the two Trump appointees in contempt and impeach them.

[Chris]

CLINTON APPOINTEE BODY COUNT

*Ding

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

*DingYes, that's why we commented on them.

[Chris]

Yes, that's why we commented on them.

#StillWithHer

[Pavlov]

#StillWithHer#StillMockingYou

[Chris]

#StillMockingYou

#StillTriggered

#WhatHappened

[Pavlov]

#StillTriggered

#WhatHappened#Still*ding*ing

#StillTriggered

#StillDeflecting

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

984296363000246272Oh look, another anonymous coward slinging mud.

[Chris]

Oh look, another anonymous coward slinging mud.

Oh look he isn't a public figure involved with the GOP. Pavlov can't tell the difference.

[Pavlov]

Oh look he isn't a public figure involved with the GOP. Pavlov can't tell the difference.Anonymous cowards slinging mud good now.

[TSA]

Oh look, another anonymous coward slinging mud.

:lol the irony

[Pavlov]

:lol the ironySays the anonymous poster who spread the story Hillary Clinton eats dead babies. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Says the anonymous poster who spread the story Hillary Clinton eats dead babies. :lol

:lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Seems fairly obvious that #muhRussia is over


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKh6XxYbbIc

[djohn2oo8]

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[RandomGuy]

We are guessing investigators are looking at whether Cohen was conspiring with WikiLeaks, perhaps signaling the front operation for Russian intelligence to start releasing the emails as a way to counteract the “Access Hollywood” tape, and also the Obama administration’s report on Russian fuckery. If investigators have evidence of that, it’s game over for at least one aspect of the Trump-Russia collusion conspiracy. And if Trump knew about it, HOO BOY.

Days later came the $130,000 payout to Stormy Daniels, which was allegedly funded by money Michael Cohen had been saving in his piggy bank to buy this one video game he really wanted, but because he is a very dumb and loyal sycophant who calls his boss “Mis-turrrr Twump,” he used it to pay Daniels instead. ALLEGEDLY.


Read more at https://wonkette.com/632475/what-the-hell-did-the-feds-want-from-michael-cohen-we-are-getting-a-glimmer-of-an-idea#m2V7J2qP3YIcef7A.99

[RandomGuy]

I would find it very hard to believe that Cohen would undertake such actions without keeping his client informed.

Sycophants seek praise too much, and the narcissist likely wanted to know about it too.

Trump has not much of a mental filter, so these background discussions taking place would explaining why his "Russia if you are listening" comment came out.

[RandomGuy]

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By same note Mueller cannot/will not indict Trump. That will have to take place in Congress at impeachment proceedings.

Based on the grumblings of the rank and file Republicans, that will likely pass. Trump, if he does not resign, will be impeached, either before or after the election.

I give it likely he will resign before then. He has remarked how little he likes the job, now that he has it, but his narcissism might force him to think ONLY he can do it.

[RandomGuy]

In Michael Wolff’s Fire & Fury, Steve Bannon is quoted as saying former Trump idiot thug lawyer Marc Kasowitz (but not really “former,” because apparently he’s back around!) “took care of” as many as a HUNDRED women who came forward during the campaign, alleging extramarital affairs with Trump and maybe worse. As Josh Marshall notes, the Bannon biography Gin And Crotchrot Devil’s Bargain specifically says Bannon and Kasowitz worked together on this. Stormy Daniels’s lawyer Michael Avenatti says COUPLE FEW women have come to him with their own stories. Was Cohen also intimately involved with these efforts, OH AND ALSO how much money changed hands, and was that all reported as campaign contributions? Because if investigators have evidence of that, it is game over for some REALLY MASSIVE CAMPAIGN FINANCE CRIME. And if Trump knew about it, HOO BOY AGAIN.

Read more at https://wonkette.com/632475/what-the-hell-did-the-feds-want-from-michael-cohen-we-are-getting-a-glimmer-of-an-idea#m2V7J2qP3YIcef7A.99


Given Trumps habits, the likelihood that there were only a couple of women is low. Even assuming a lot of puffery by Wolff, there are a lot more shoes to drop.

[dabom]

Boom

[RandomGuy]

Your question was “where did you look?”

Everywhere

Evidently, the magical collusion with Russia hasn’t been found. In over a year

Hence RIP #muhRussia

Echo chamber head in sand action here.

Mueller has run a leak proof investigation this far. Lack of information about collusion is not conclusive to any reasonable reckoning.

"Well the most leak proof political investigation ever hasn't released any explosive allegations about collusion yet, so there will never be anything proven" is just... dumb dude.

But you do your poorly reasoned conclusions. It is your schtick at this point.

If you actually sought out information outside of your preferred echo chamber, what is publicly available shows a lot of exploration down multiple paths of collusion.

[RandomGuy]

Nah, Darrin called every move, every investigation, every interview and every indictment.

He's looked EVERYWHERE. He said so.

um... yeah.... :rolleyes

[djohn2oo8]

By same note Mueller cannot/will not indict Trump. That will have to take place in Congress at impeachment proceedings.

Based on the grumblings of the rank and file Republicans, that will likely pass. Trump, if he does not resign, will be impeached, either before or after the election.

I give it likely he will resign before then. He has remarked how little he likes the job, now that he has it, but his narcissism might force him to think ONLY he can do it.

Not necessarily. An indictment can serve as a basis for impeachment.

[RandomGuy]

Not necessarily. An indictment can serve as a basis for impeachment.

Dept of Justice regulations specifically prohibit anyone at the DOJ indicting a sitting president.

He can produce a report that would form the basis for impeachment.

(edit: my understanding, based on analysis I have read, moderately confident in that assessment)

[djohn2oo8]

Dept of Justice regulations specifically prohibit anyone at the DOJ indicting a sitting president.

He can produce a report that would form the basis for impeachment.

(edit: my understanding, based on analysis I have read, moderately confident in that assessment)

Supreme court can rule on that. Which it seems Mueller intends to include.

[djohn2oo8]

Lol Trump. Mueller moving on without the interview indicating a grand jury subpoena.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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lol

[Pavlov]

984541331166040069
lolTSA would take a bullet for this man.

[djohn2oo8]

TSA would take a bullet for this man.

lol

[Reck]

TSA would take a bullet for this man.

Darrins would take a golden shower for him too.

[Spurminator]

I'm sure the pee tape is bullshit, but what seems entirely possible is that this blowhard piece of shit actually told people he paid hookers to piss on a bed that the Obama's slept in and the lie that he invented became a part of the dossier due to word of mouth.

[koriwhat]

I'm sure the pee tape is bullshit, but what seems entirely possible is that this blowhard piece of shit actually told people he paid hookers to piss on a bed that the Obama's slept in and the lie that he invented became a part of the dossier due to word of mouth.

or that you're liberal and will fall for anything... i'd imagine there's more truth to my statement than anything.

[Spurminator]

or that you're liberal and will fall for anything... i'd imagine there's more truth to my statement than anything.

I fell for my own alternative theory?

How gullible of me.

[djohn2oo8]

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LOL

[djohn2oo8]

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lol agent orange gonna stroke out at this book

[Pavlov]

Well, someone on Hannity said he was a dirty cop, so talking points.

[koriwhat]

I fell for my own alternative theory?

How gullible of me.

like the rest of your ilk... make believe is in your dna. you'll come up with anything to soothe those feelings of yours.

[boutons_deux]

Y'all Fox Fellators tell us how Hannity responds to Comey book

GOP campaign seeks to brand Comey a liar as he touts book critical of Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-campaign-seeks-to-brand-comey-a-liar-as-he-touts-book-critical-of-trump/2018/04/12/4c8ee4c2-3e4b-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef_story.html?utm_term=.b3ec7a03eff8

[Pavlov]

Y'all Fox Fellators tell us how Hannity responds to Comey book

GOP campaign seeks to brand Comey a liar as he touts book critical of Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-campaign-seeks-to-brand-comey-a-liar-as-he-touts-book-critical-of-trump/2018/04/12/4c8ee4c2-3e4b-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef_story.html?utm_term=.b3ec7a03eff89845 36242611253250

[djohn2oo8]

Y'all Fox Fellators tell us how Hannity responds to Comey book

GOP campaign seeks to brand Comey a liar as he touts book critical of Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-campaign-seeks-to-brand-comey-a-liar-as-he-touts-book-critical-of-trump/2018/04/12/4c8ee4c2-3e4b-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef_story.html?utm_term=.b3ec7a03eff8

GOP twitter account seems incredibly shook.

[djohn2oo8]

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[koriwhat]

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that first one is hilarious tbh... oh no, the boss fired an employee and was in the right to do so. oh no!

btw lol at randy maddow

[Pavlov]

that first one is hilarious tbh... oh no, the boss fired an employee and was in the right to do so. oh no!That's the question.


btw lol at randy maddow"I dated a lesbian one time. I can't be a bigot!"

[Chris]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Chris so triggered he didn't even use an actual gif

[Reck]

"I dated a lesbian one time. I can't be a bigot!"

Her surprise when she learned Koriwhat wanted to tat her calf to match his most have been priceless.

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

984528539054682123:lol Rasmussen

[djohn2oo8]

Her surprise when she learned Koriwhat wanted to tat her calf to match his most have been priceless.

:lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

like the rest of your ilk... make believe is in your dna. you'll come up with anything to soothe those feelings of yours.

This goes well with your conspiratard antics with Chris. Proper look for you, Joey.

[Chris]

Chris so triggered he didn't even use an actual gif

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[boutons_deux]

:lol Rasmussen

Breitbart! :lol

Chris, TSA, chucho, rmt, Darrin, :lol

[Reck]

:lol Rasmussen

Trump over 50% approval with them. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao :lmao :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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lol the irony

[Reck]

Some sweet irony.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Trump over 50% approval with them. :lol

RCP and 538 have him at 41%. That is actually good for his presidency which is just sad. He's been slightly more popular than Ford after pardoning Nixon at times and far below every other president in the modern era.

[djohn2oo8]

Some sweet irony.

The role of Fredo Corleone will now be played by Michael Cohen.

[djohn2oo8]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3og0IwcLOkvGhFU3lK/giphy.webp

lol

[Chris]

'Never interfere with an enemy while he's in the process of destroying himself'

#Comey

[Chris]

Comey good now though because DRUMPF :tu


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[Chris]

I wonder if Gowdy still good?

[Reck]

Comey good now though because DRUMPF :tu


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One democrat says Comey bad=all democrats think that way.

:lol Chris simplistic thinking process.

[Chris]

One democrat says Comey bad=all democrats think that way.

:lol Chris simplistic thinking process.

One Democrat :lol


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/05/10/10-times-democrats-called-for-james-comeys-firing-n2324573

Reck :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Chris shook

[Chris]

Djohn nervous :lol

Word of mouth from "Trump Allies" good now :lol

[Reck]

One Democrat :lol


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/05/10/10-times-democrats-called-for-james-comeys-firing-n2324573

Reck :lol

Should I compile a list of Republicans who have called for Mueller to be fired?

Two can play that shit game.

[Chris]

Should I compile a list of Republicans who have called for Mueller to be fired?

Two can play that shit game.

I'm not defending Mueller.

Reck :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Chris. Shall Mueller subpoena Trump to testify in front of a Grand Jury. How will you react?

[Chris]

Chris. Shall Mueller subpoena Trump to testify in front of a Grand Jury. How will you react?

Buy more popcorn.

[djohn2oo8]

Buy more popcorn.

Me too.

[Reck]

I'm not defending Mueller.

Reck :lol

Well no shit. That's the point.

All republicans want him fired. Including you.

You posted about a couple of democrats shit talking Comey. I just gave you an example.

:lol Chris cant follow simple logic.

[djohn2oo8]

Well no shit. That's the point.

All republicans want him fired. Including you.

You posted about a couple of democrats shit talking Comey. I just gave you an example.

:lol Chris cant follow simple logic.

lol

[Chris]

Well no shit. That's the point.

You have no point. None.


All republicans want him fired. Including you.

Yep, don't like Mueller. Don't like Comey.


You posted about a couple of democrats shit talking Comey. I just gave you an example.

An example of what? Whataboutery?

Reck :lol


:lol Chris cant follow simple logic.

You got your wires crossed. Poor fella.

[djohn2oo8]

Smh Chris. Whataboutism is your calling card.

[Reck]

You have no point. None.



Yep, don't like Mueller. Don't like Comey.



An example of what? Whataboutery?

Reck :lol



You got your wires crossed. Poor fella.

:lol Using TSA tactics when he's shook.
:lol over quoting and analysing entire post.

[Reck]

Smh Chris. Whataboutism is your calling card.

Whataboutery!

Bot Chris needs the attention of his kremlin technicians. :lol

[Chris]

:lol Using TSA tactics when he's shook.
:lol over quoting and analysing entire post.

White flag noted*

[Reck]

White flag noted*

Pav's word taken.

[Chris]

Pav's word taken.

Calling for help noted*

[Reck]

Calling for help noted*

Had I done that I would have actually tagged his name. I didn't.

[Chris]

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[Reck]

50D chess baby

[Chris]

50D chess baby

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*Risitas

[Reck]

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*Risitas

Flynn has an iron clad deal with teh FBI. He breaks it, he gets charge with more serious crimes he committed. Like the kidnapping charges and shit.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Like he needs a precedent for a listed power of the presidency. It's not like it wouldn't give further grounds for obstruction of justice considering he would be doing it to save his own ass.

And Chris using far right anonymous twitter accounts for his news. :lol

[Chris]

Flynn has an iron clad deal with teh FBI. He breaks it, he gets charge with more serious crimes he committed. Like the kidnapping charges and shit.

Kidnapping? :lol

[Chris]

Think Bill Priestap. Think Peter Strzok. Think Lisa Page. Think interviews. Think cooperation. Think grand jury testimony. Think Nunes. Think Sessions. Quiet before the storm.

[Reck]

Kidnapping? :lol

Yes.

You haven't read up on that? Guess Hannity didn't have the time then.

Perhaps you need to read Flynn's plea deal.

[Chris]

Yes.

You haven't read up on that? Guess Hannity didn't have the time then.

Perhaps you need to read Flynn's plea deal.

Looks like they are nothing more than allegations and have been unproven. I can see why you have blind faith in it though.

[Chris]

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[DarrinS]

Russia relations so cozy now. :lmao

[Reck]

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So this guy was was in the actual oval office when even Sessions was kicked out? Neat

[djohn2oo8]

Russia relations so cozy now. :lmao

?

[Chris]

So this guy was was in the actual oval office when even Sessions was kicked out? Neat

Highly respected legal analyst. Take notes son.

[Pavlov]

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984596338854760448Tracybeanz declares she has no idea what's going on.

Some profound shit.

[djohn2oo8]

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Comey toying with that motherfucker lol and already a morning twitter meltdown.

[clambake]

984630201329111040

thats funny.


republicans don't read.

[boutons_deux]

Comey said that Trump then told him, “I may order you to investigate that.” Comey said he preached caution.

“I said, ‘Sir, that's up to you.

But you'd want to be careful about that,

because it might create a narrative that we're investigating you personally, and

second, it's very difficult to prove something didn't happen,’” :lol Comey said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/comey-trump-asked-disprove-salacious-prostitute-allegations-dossier/story?id=54433989

[DarrinS]

984753061515046913



:lmao

[spurraider21]

Highly respected legal analyst. Take notes son.
Risitas

[RandomGuy]

Comey said that Trump then told him, “I may order you to investigate that.” Comey said he preached caution.

“I said, ‘Sir, that's up to you.

But you'd want to be careful about that,

because it might create a narrative that we're investigating you personally, and

second, it's very difficult to prove something didn't happen,’” :lol Comey said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/comey-trump-asked-disprove-salacious-prostitute-allegations-dossier/story?id=54433989




smh

[RandomGuy]

:lmao

Another lazy ass smiley. Don't strain yourself.

Comey points out the same problem I have with that bit.

Usuallly you can dismiss some things out of hand.

Trump + prostitutes... not so much.

[DarrinS]

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:lol

[RandomGuy]

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:lol

It is possible for the truth to sell books, stupid mother fucker.

This is what is known as circumstantial ad hominem. Long words for you, but google them.

Maybe for your next trick you will post how washing your car is responsible for rain the next day? :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Darrin seems shook.

[clambake]

he's from 666 trump tower.


antichrist hasn't said a word.

[TSA]

It is possible for the truth to sell books, stupid mother fucker.

This is what is known as circumstantial ad hominem. Long words for you, but google them.

Maybe for your next trick you will post how washing your car is responsible for rain the next day? :rollin

I honestly never thought these words would come out my mouth, but I don't know whether RandomGuy let prostitutes shit on his chest. It's possible, but I don't know.

[Pavlov]

The mere fact you are able to call out a US senator on Twitter doesn't necessarily make it a good idea.

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[boutons_deux]

P R E S I D E N T I A L !

‘Untruthful slime ball’ Trump blasts Comey as details emerge from scathing book

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/untruthful-slimeball-trump-blasts-comey-as-details-emerge-from-scathing-book/2018/04/13/489ae64a-3eff-11e8-8d53-eba0ed2371cc_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8013abc6d1c7&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Darrin seems shook.

A lifelong republican with access to high level security clearance giving credence to the one thing that he has been most trying to have others discount out of hand has to be causing significant mental distress to our shilling dimwit.

[RandomGuy]

I honestly never thought these words would come out my mouth, but I don't know whether RandomGuy let prostitutes shit on his chest. It's possible, but I don't know.

(shrugs)

Comey is credible, and informed, and has first hand knowledge of Donald Trump from his interactions with the man.

[Pavlov]

I honestly never thought these words would come out my mouth, but I don't know whether Hillary Clinton eats dead babies. It's possible, but I don't know.Fixed for accuracy.

[RandomGuy]

The mere fact you are able to call out a US senator on Twitter doesn't necessarily make it a good idea.

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Enough of Congress has signaled that they will vote to impeach if it comes to that, either before or after the election, and are unwilling to whore themselves out to Trump any more that Trump will be blindsided by it.

Ryan not running for re-election or "any" office, should be a huge warning flag to the Trumpistas. He is free, like the others, to vote his conscience.

But hey, wait for the IG report... :lol

[TSA]

But hey, wait for the IG report... :lol

*nervous laughter

[Pavlov]

*nervous laughterSorry, I just can't see what the IG report would produce that justifies your faith in it.

I'd ask you what your best case scenario is but you're really sensitive about questions these days.

[djohn2oo8]

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lol

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

Trump firing of Rosenstein could come as early as today.

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

Sorry, I just can't see what the IG report would produce that justifies your faith in it.

I'd ask you what your best case scenario is but you're really sensitive about questions these days.

You think its a nothingburger even after learning 8 top DOJ/FBI officials have been fired, reassigned, or demoted because of it. You think it's a nothingburger even after learning it caught McCabe lying under oath multiple times. You think it's a nothingburger even after learning Sessions assigned a Federal Prosecutor to work along side Horowitz and his IG investigation. You've made your mind up, I don't need you to see what the IG report would produce to justify my faith in it.

[Pavlov]

You think its a nothingburger even after learning 8 top DOJ/FBI officials have been fired, reassigned, or demoted because of it. You think it's a nothingburger even after learning it caught McCabe lying under oath multiple times. You think it's a nothingburger even after learning Sessions assigned a Federal Prosecutor to work along side Horowitz and his IG investigation. You've made your mind up, I don't need you to see what the IG report would produce to justify my faith in it.I'm not saying it's nothing. You're saying it's everything.

What's your best case scenario, TSA?

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

IG report may come out today and Trump to use it to justify firing Rosenstein.

[Pavlov]

984846712433971200People still don't realize how serious this is.

[djohn2oo8]

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[monosylab1k]

IG report may come out today and Trump to use it to justify firing Rosenstein.
Finally we’re getting to the good part.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IiF6VtN3abE/WV15jCfNYgI/AAAAAAAAUQw/ALLhYiNIy_82PA9SrsV3ACGO4Ax4F-cMgCLcBGAs/s1600/stephpopcorn.gif

[boutons_deux]

So Cohen as several, long-standing connections to Ukraine? :lol

[RandomGuy]

[Randomguy is nervous about the IG report that I have been told is really important and invested so much in]

Echo.
Chamber.

Your posts have the same emotional and intellectual tenor of a creationist desperately grasping at straws trying to shoehorn reality into a deeply delusional worldview.

I am absolutely not nervous at all, and find your assertion otherwise risible.

[djohn2oo8]

So Cohen as several, long-standing connections to Ukraine? :lol

Yup

[RandomGuy]

So Cohen as several, long-standing connections to Ukraine? :lol

The law offices he was working out of belongs to Rosneft's lobbying firm.

Sheer coincidence, I'm sure.

[RandomGuy]

IG report may come out today and Trump to use it to justify firing Rosenstein.

Be interesting to see what happens.

[RandomGuy]

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Wow. That is interesting.

RNC gonna have a few more officials in trouble in the run up to the election. Awesome.

[RandomGuy]

So here is the shaznat with the Stormy Daniels thing:


AVENATTI[Daniels' very good lawyer]: So we received a call earlier today from Michael Cohen’s attorney who notified us that it’s his intention if our case proceeds, to plead the Fifth Amendment in response to every question that we may ask in connection with the case.

COOPER: In a deposition?

AVENATTI: In a deposition or otherwise as it relates to him defending himself in the case. And asked us to agree to a stay or delay in the case. We said we don’t believe a stay or delay is appropriate.

COOPER: Why would they want a stay?

AVENATTI: Well, they want a stay because they want to avoid having Michael Cohen answer questions and potentially plead the Fifth Amendment in response to questions that we may pose.

COOPER: And I just want to be clear on this, you heard this directly from Michael Cohen’s attorney?

AVENATTI: Yes, Mr. Blakely; there’s no question about it.


See, there’s no penalty for refusing to incriminate yourself in a criminal case. But in a civil case, it’s different.


3/ Obtaining a stay in the civil case would put it on hold, which would delay depositions and other discovery while the criminal investigation is ongoing, if the judge grants the stay. If the judge doesn't grant the stay, Cohen is in a very bad position.


4/ In a civil case, if you take the Fifth, the court or jury is permitted to presume that your answers would have been damaging to you. So while taking the Fifth can't be used against you in a criminal case, it can hurt you in a lawsuit.

Read more at https://wonkette.com/632520/whats-it-called-when-circling-shark-robert-mueller-combines-with-stormy-daniels-tornado#BgxTL5o8yEJyTyCJ.99

Shit that is fucking hilarious.

Pleading the 5th in a civil trial makes you look guilty as fuck. :rollin

[TSA]

Finally we’re getting to the good part.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IiF6VtN3abE/WV15jCfNYgI/AAAAAAAAUQw/ALLhYiNIy_82PA9SrsV3ACGO4Ax4F-cMgCLcBGAs/s1600/stephpopcorn.gif

Pass the popcorn

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Comey writes that he felt obligated to take more of a personal role as the public face of the investigation rather than deferring to then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch – in part because of something involving Lynch that he cryptically refers to as a “development still unknown to the American public to this day.”

In early 2016, the U.S. government became aware of information from a classified source, and “the source and content of that material remains classified as I write this,” according to the book.

“Had it become public, the unverified material would undoubtedly have been used by political opponents to cast serious doubt on the attorney general’s independence in connection with the Clinton investigation,” Comey writes, without further elaboration.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/comey-book-claims-president-trump-sought-loyalty-mafia/story?id=54420635

I knew there was a good reason Lynch gave that TV interview before Comey's book came out. Everyone is in CYA mode now with the pending IG report.

[TSA]

So here is the shaznat with the Stormy Daniels thing:



See, there’s no penalty for refusing to incriminate yourself in a criminal case. But in a civil case, it’s different.



Read more at https://wonkette.com/632520/whats-it-called-when-circling-shark-robert-mueller-combines-with-stormy-daniels-tornado#BgxTL5o8yEJyTyCJ.99

Shit that is fucking hilarious.

Pleading the 5th in a civil trial makes you look guilty as fuck. :rollin

wonkecho chamber

[RandomGuy]

wonkecho chamber

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[RandomGuy]

wonkecho chamber

In kind donation of something of value.

[RandomGuy]

wonkecho chamber

Feel free to explain then, what the ramifications are of someone pleading the 5th in a civil trial.

Was the analysis flawed?

I'm happy to peer outside my echo chamber, if I have one, to any analysis of this development you might want post. Go on. I'll wait.

[TSA]

Feel free to explain then, what the ramifications are of someone pleading the 5th in a civil trial.

Was the analysis flawed?

I'm happy to peer outside my echo chamber, if I have one, to any analysis of this development you might want post. Go on. I'll wait.

No one claimed all information coming out of an echo chamber was false.

[TSA]

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[Pavlov]

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984601999395250176So arrest him.

I look forward to it.

[clambake]

oh. so the book is true.

[RandomGuy]

No one claimed all information coming out of an echo chamber was false.

If someone is willing to look outside their normal information sources, and doesn't knee-jerk dismiss things they don't agree with, that is, by definition, not someone in an echo chamber.

Did you read the article?

[Chris]

Mueller - Man of integrity.

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[RandomGuy]

oh. so the book is true.

One would be hard pressed though, to explain what information relative to "substantive merits" if any ongoing investigation are in this book.

Doubt you will find anything that meets that bar.

[Pavlov]

Mueller - Man of integrity.

984755736193454080:lmao trying so hard

[djohn2oo8]

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[Chris]

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[TSA]

Lynch throws Comey under the bus. Comey throws Lynch under the bus. McCabe throws Comey under the bus. Comey throws McCabe under the bus. Brennan melting down on MSNBC and Twitter for a month. Clapper melting down on CNN.

This has been amazing to watch :lol

[Chris]

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No wonder they wanted that redacted.

[RandomGuy]

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.... Broidy resigns.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/13/us/politics/elliott-broidy-michael-cohen-payout.html

Now we just need to find that housekeeper's offspring. :D

[Splits]

Without having access to either we don't know what was included in the final report they had access to. And with the OIG report release being pushed back it leaves open the possibility that McCabe is under criminal investigation.

:lmao "lacked candor"

[Splits]

The OIG report is going to be brutal. Top FBI/DOJ rats already scurrying from the dossier as fast as they can.

======

It’s every man and woman for themselves as the collective groups of architects behind the entire FBI Counterintelligence Operation, that brought us the 18-month-long ‘vast Russian conspiracy’ narrative, now attempt to back-track from all previous assertions.

Two days ago we shared very strong confidence the joint FBI (counterintelligence) and DOJ (National Security Division) scheme was going to come out. The reason is simple, they left too big a trail of factual and provable evidence of their activity.

It is not coincidental that just as scrutiny over the 2016 FBI FISA court application gains traction in congress and media, the insider intelligence community started leaking to the New York Times about the insignificance of the Steele Dossier as it relates to the FISA court application. Look, over there, it was George Papadopoulos; not the DOJ FISA construct that was used by the FBI to launch surveillance upon candidate Trump. Swear.

Laughable.

Predictable.

For more than a year the Steele Dossier was the most valuable evidence to the Russian narrative; then, poof, in the blink-of-an-eye, not so much – it became a risk. Funny that. The transparency of motive is brutally obvious, too many FBI and DOJ people at risk now. The trail is too easy to follow.

It was only a matter of time before Fusion-GPS spoke up toward the same goal of track-covering. Yesterday Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch [Hi Glenn] posted an Op-Ed in the New York Times attempting further distance.

According to Glenn and Pete:

[…] “We don’t believe the Steele dossier was the trigger for the F.B.I.’s investigation into Russian meddling. As we told the Senate Judiciary Committee in August, our sources said the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports the bureau had received from other sources, including one inside the Trump camp.” (more)

Additionally, Fusion GPS also claims they never spoke to the FBI: “We did not speak to the F.B.I. and haven’t since.”, which is bizarre given the previous reports of Glenn Simpson talking to FBI Counterintelligence Agent Peter Strzok. Isn’t Peter Strzok in the FBI?

Conspicuously absent from the Fusion Op-Ed is any mention of Glenn Simpson’s wife, Mary B Jacoby, and her involvement therein. Additionally their explanations are devoid of the prior meeting or contact with DOJ Deputy Attorney Bruce Ohr, the guy who was demoted for meeting with them without telling anyone. Another curious missing detail is Simpson, Jacoby and Fritsch hiring Bruce Ohr’s wife Nellie Ohr to work on the “Trump project”.

Nope. Nothing to see here, move along, move along.

Unfortunately for Glenn and Pete the part about them saying the dossier was taken seriously because it corroborated reports the FBI had from another source, “including one inside the Trump camp”, leads to Business Insider asking questions about that source.

Who does that corroborative source turn out to be? Oh yeah:

[…] a person with knowledge of Fusion’s testimony and the op-ed told Business Insider on Tuesday. … it was a reference to George Papadopoulos. (link)

So the current narrative is: the FBI didn’t likely use the Steele Dossier in the FISA court application, but rather the FBI’s confirmation of a source within the Steele Dossier, as given by the author of the Dossier, was likely used in the FISA court application.

See how that works?

The “dossier” didn’t originate the FISA application to conduct surveillance on candidate Donald Trump; the source (Papadopoulos) quoted “inside the dossier” originated the FISA application. Let’s play a game; it’s called “Semantics”.

Except there’s another problem.

Stuff happens when people begin the ‘every-man-for-himself‘ routine; the central narrative control collapses.

Simultaneous to Fusions’ Op-Ed protestations, the former Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, appears on CNN to say, he never heard of George Papadopoulos – and he should know, because his office put out the 2016/2017 Joint Analysis Report. That’s the 17-agency (eyeroll) definitive story on all things ‘Muh Russian Conspiracy’.

So now what?

Not what, “who”?

Yeah, who?

Who’d he throw it to?

I dunno.

“Third Base.”

Fusion-GPS’s, Glenn Simpson, is playing Abbott to ODNI, James Clapper’s, Costello.

Why? Because the entire back-story that centers around the Steele Dossier, how it was assembled (Clinton Camp) and how it was used collaboratively by the DOJ (National Security Division) and FBI (Counterintelligence unit), is a case study in how to mislead a FISA court to gain an unlawful warrant to wiretap and conduct surveillance on political opponents.

And I remind you, that approach is what the former Obama head of the DOJ National Security Division, Asst. Attorney General John P Carlin, admitted to the FISA court weeks after the Trump wiretap and surveillance warrant was issued.

A newly released court order from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) found that the National Security Agency, under former President Obama, routinely violated American privacy protections while scouring through overseas intercepts and failed to disclose the extent of the problems until the final days before Donald Trump was elected president last fall. In describing the violations, the FISA court said the illegal searches conducted by the NSA under Obama were “widespread” and created a “very serious Fourth Amendment issue.” These new discoveries come from a recently unsealed FISA court document dated April 26, 2017 and center around a hearing dated October 26, 2017, just days before the 2016 election, in which the FISA court apparently learned for the first time of “widespread” and illegal spying on American citizens by the NSA under the Obama administration. (pdf link)

As the Inspector General investigation continues: ♦FBI Agent Peter Strzok has been reassigned to the HR department. ♦FBI Lawyer Lisa Page, personal legal aide to FBI Asst. Director, Andrew “Andy” McCabe, has been returned to the DOJ side. ♦FBI Chief Legal Counsel James Baker has been relieved of his duties by FBI Director Christopher Wray. ♦FBI Asst Director Andrew McCabe has announced his intent to retire in March.

All of these FBI personnel moves are a preliminary outcomes of the still ongoing Office of Inspector General (OIG) investigation. All of this has been reported. None of these moves are speculative. All of these geese are cooked. However, this is just one side of the 2016 political “Trump operation”, the FBI investigative Counterintelligence Division side.

The other side, the legal side of the Trump operation, stems from the National Security Division of the DOJ. A FISA application is submitted from the DOJ-NSD for use by the FBI Counterintelligence team. Sunlight upon this side of the collaboration is the reason for all of the current distraction narratives.


While both sides of the corrupt political apparatus participated in the illegal unmasking and leaking, the documentation and activity behind the origin of the FISA application is the current ‘hot potato’ no-one wants any association with.

The FISA application(s) and the subsequent wiretapping and surveillance collection, along with the unmasking that followed, is the focus of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes.

Sometime this month, after the initial Inspector General Michael Horowitz release, House Judiciary Chair Bob Goodlatte and Senate Judiciary Chair Chuck Grassley will likely call for a Special Counsel to investigate the upper-level management of the FBI and DOJ.

We should support that approach. The SC can quickly put a Grand Jury together and start presenting the IG investigative evidence, as well as enforceable subpoenas for witnesses.

There’s a lot of different down-stream legal issues:

The unlawful exoneration of Hillary Clinton by political operatives in the DOJ/FBI.
The unlawful destruction of evidence; and the manipulation of investigative protocols to gain a specific and pre-planned political outcome. (Peter Strzok, Andrew McCabe)
The unlawful use of the FISA court for political spy operations by the DOJ/FBI.
The unlawful use of the Dept of Justice National Security Division. For weaponized political benefit. (Sally Yates, Loretta Lynch, Bruce Ohr)
The unlawful use of the FBI Counterintelligence Division. For weaponized political benefit. (James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, James Baker)
The unlawful use of a Special Counsel (Mueller) investigation to hide the conspiracy; (James Baker, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Andrew Weissman, Jeannie Rhee, Aaron Zebley)
All of the origination details are part of the minutia that will surface in the next 30 days. Devin Nunes, Bob Goodlatte and Chuck Grassley using the Judiciary and Intelligence Committees to collect evidence and tell the public everything outlined HERE and more.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/03/fusion-gps-tries-and-fails-to-distance-themselves-from-fbi-fisa-origin/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

:lmao this beauty is not aging well

:lol "lacked candor" vs "unlawful exoneration"

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1. Oh, man. If I’m looking at things right, this OIG report is going to stun the nation. This is going to be MASSIVE.


2. POTUS may already have this report, given his tweets over the last 24 hours. Trump certainly knows about it. Even he seems shocked.

3. Forget Watergate. Forget any scandal you have ever heard about, researched or read about in your lifetimes. The scale of what is going to emerge in the next days and weeks will be unlike anything you have ever considered possible.

4. In the frame - the entire network that enabled Hillary Clinton’s corrupt campaign is about to be exposed & routed. This is the same network - but not all of it - that enabled Obama’s corruption, as well. But there's so much more that will probably be revealed.

5. Here’s the full original statement by the Office of the Inspector General dated Jan 12, 2017 -
oig.justice.gov/press/2017/201…

In this thread, let’s just consider the specific allegations they mention in the statement.

6. 'Allegations that Department or FBI policies or procedures were not followed in connection with, or in actions leading up to or related to, the FBI Director’s public announcement on July 5, 2016, /..

7./...and the Director’s letters to Congress on October 28 and November 6, 2016, and that certain underlying investigative decisions were based on improper considerations;’.

8. Targets : Comey, Lynch, Bill Clinton, McCabe, Strzok. Anyone involved in the fraudulent clearance of Hillary Clinton by James Comey on that fateful day in July, as well as the farcical shut down/cover up of the Human Abedin email trove (November) is about to be nailed.

9. Those not exposed have either flipped on a plea deal, or WILL be exposed. All of them.

Speculating - but I now suspect Strzok & perhaps Lisa Page flipped and were ‘recruited’ by Mueller into his SC, in order to tell the OIG everything they knew.

10. Next - 'Allegations that the FBI Deputy Director should have been recused from participating in certain investigative matters;’

Targets - Andrew McCabe & Comey.

11. This will expose McCabe’s links to the Clintons, especially his accepting some $700,000 as a bribe from the Clintons to cover up the investigations into her classified material. As well as any other shonky conduct he has been up to over the years.

12. Next - 'Allegations that the Department’s Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs improperly disclosed non-public information to the Clinton campaign and/or should have been recused from participating in certain matters;’

13. Target - Peter Kadzic.

This will expose Peter Kadzik’s role investigating & working with Comey / McCabe to shut down the Human Abedin email trove:


14. And also Kadzik's general collusion with the Clinton Campaign itself (note - this email was sent from his gmail to Podesta):

15. Next - 'Allegations that Department and FBI employees improperly disclosed non-public information;’

This will expose the LEAKERS. But also the entire Comey/ McCabe/Kadzik network within the FBI & DoJ may be in the frame here.

16. Note that this is about to drop just after gen (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14810)Flynn quietly departs the scene. Thomas Wictor’s important analysis has revealed Flynn’s masterful role in identifying these individuals.

17. Next - 'Allegations that decisions regarding the timing of the FBI’s release of certain FOIA documents on October 30 and November 1, 2016, and the use of a Twitter account to publicize same, were influenced by improper considerations.'

Oh boy. This is EXTREMELY interesting.

18. On October 30, 2016 FBI (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15186)RecordsVault , a twitter account that had been inactive since 8 October 2015, suddenly exploded into life again.

There were TWENTY tweets released on October 30, 2016.

19. These included innocuous tweets about Eric Trump, the father of DJT:

And Nikola Tesla :
But there were other tweets, as well.

20. About General Petraus, whose career was ended by Obama for mishandling of classified information :




21. And about a certain infamous politician who had committed far more serious breaches, but always seemed to skate - Hillary Rodham Clinton :




22. On 1 November, the same twitter account tweeted about FBI investigations into a certain infamous President who always seemed to skate, as well - Bill Clinton:

23. Quote - 'The bulk of these records come from a 2001 FBI investigation into the pardon of Marc Rich (1934-2013), aka Marcell David Reich, by President Clinton in 2001.'

24. Targets : Bill Clinton, Eric Holder (the Assistant AG who cleared Rich) & John Podesta (Bill Clinton’s Chief of Staff).

Oh, another thing.

25. Following the pardon, the same Marc Rich helped Bill Clinton set up his Foundation, which used the front of a charity as cover for a massive criminal enterprise involving pay to play, money laundering, /...

26. /..racketeering & tax evasion - at the very least. Crimes Rich had a particular expertise in:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Rich…

27. The final sentence of the OIG statement is often overlooked, but VERY important.

'Finally, if circumstances warrant, the OIG will consider including other issues that may arise during the course of the review.'

28. This essentially authorizes the OIG & DOJ to investigate anything they want arising from the above, which is pretty much everything the Clintons & perhaps even Obama himself, have been up to.

29. Folks, I’m going to say it : #TheStorm IS ABOUT TO HIT. And it's unlike anything we have ever seen before.

BUCKLE UP.

The end.

https://twitter.com/Imperator_Rex3/status/937536769561468928

"lacked candor"

vs

"11. This will expose McCabe’s links to the Clintons, especially his accepting some $700,000 as a bribe from the Clintons to cover up the investigations into her classified material. As well as any other shonky conduct he has been up to over the years."

:lmao

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"lacked candor"

vs

"11. This will expose McCabe’s links to the Clintons, especially his accepting some $700,000 as a bribe from the Clintons to cover up the investigations into her classified material. As well as any other shonky conduct he has been up to over the years."

:lmao
according to the OIG report he was pushing back to keep the investigation going after the DOJ pressed him asking why the investigation is still ongoing

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"lacked candor"

vs

"11. This will expose McCabe’s links to the Clintons, especially his accepting some $700,000 as a bribe from the Clintons to cover up the investigations into her classified material. As well as any other shonky conduct he has been up to over the years."

:lmao

You think this is all that's coming from the OIG report?

The initial memo has 5 different aspects of the investigation and the OIG has now expanded into investigating FISA abuse.

Splits with the LMAO nervous laughter :rollin

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You think this is all that's coming from the OIG report?

The initial memo has 5 different aspects of the investigation and the OIG has now expanded into investigating FISA abuse.

Splits with the LMAO nervous laughter :rollin

Yeah, the "violating media policy" bombshell is JUST THE BEGINNING

WAIT FOR IT.....

:lmao

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No wonder they wanted that redacted.

The Unraveling

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according to the OIG report he was pushing back to keep the investigation going after the DOJ pressed him asking why the investigation is still ongoing

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bullshit he was pushing back. He blamed the other field offices for the leaks he authorized.

[RandomGuy]

The Unraveling

You talking about your mind here?

That went a long time ago.