Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Pavlov]

TSA literally doesn't understand Trump's lawyers did not want that memo out there because it shows intent.Would have to see the exact words of the memo. Howeveah, the "great pressure" comment after the act is reason enough to follow that trail. Trump's compulsion to mansplain everything could do him in.

[TSA]

Because that compound is being searched tomorrow by US authorities along with their homes. Dipshit.

Do you think the Americans that were booted out of Moscow left all of their documents to be search by Russian authorities?

[TSA]

TSA literally doesn't understand Trump's lawyers did not want that memo out there because it shows intent.

According to the two articles you posted, nothing in the letter moves you closer to obstruction of justice. Your two articles actually support the opposite.

[TSA]

Mueller Has Early Draft of Trump Letter Giving Reasons for Firing Comey
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/politics/trump-comey-firing-letter.html

Comey drafted Clinton exoneration before finishing investigation, GOP senators say
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/31/politics/comey-clinton-investigation/index.html

what a fucking shit show :rollin

[Pavlov]

:lol GOP senators say.

TSA, where's your update?

[Spurminator]

'member when Trump said he fired Comey because he was too HARD on Clinton? :lol

[Pavlov]

Man, if Trump has to go before a grand jury about anything it's game over for realsies.

[Reck]

"People familiar with the letter said Trump provided the contents of the letter, which was formally drawn up by Miller at Bedminster. They said it did not dwell on Russia."

Mueller has other ideas about what is and what is not obstruction of justice. You nor I know what he actually has.

You're being selective in picking what you want to highlight. It's a two way street.


The letter, which was first reported by the New York Times, as well as internal White House communications before Comey’s ouster, could now become key evidence for Mueller as he examines whether the Comey firing was part of an effort to obstruct the Russia investigation. The contents of the letter were described in detail by several people who had read versions of it.


It's already known that Mueller is indeed looking at the posibility of obstruction of justice by Trump so I dont know why you're acting like this isn't a thing already happening anyway.


The special counsel overseeing the investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 election is interviewing senior intelligence officials as part of a widening probe that now includes an examination of whether President Trump attempted to obstruct justice, officials said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-counsel-is-investigating-trump-for-possible-obstruction-of-justice/2017/06/14/9ce02506-5131-11e7-b064-828ba60fbb98_story.html?utm_term=.6536e2397f5b

[boutons_deux]

U.S. Attorney Trump Fired Just Said Latest Move By Trump’s Lawyers Points Toward Guilt



Preet Bharara
(https://twitter.com/PreetBharara)
✔@PreetBharara (https://twitter.com/PreetBharara)



Team "outlined why Comey would make an unsuitable witness, calling him prone to exaggeration."
Maybe Trump lawyers charge by unit of irony. https://twitter.com/wsj/status/903338917403000832 … (https://t.co/DAjB0wdav9)

3:53 PM - Aug 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/PreetBharara/status/903360090606096384)


(https://twitter.com/PreetBharara)
Preet Bharara (https://twitter.com/PreetBharara)

✔@PreetBharara (https://twitter.com/PreetBharara)

Note: There may never be any charges, but defense lawyers don't usu waste time on preemptive memos re: frivolous theories of criminal guilt https://twitter.com/preetbharara/status/903360090606096384 … (https://t.co/bkiImbOAWu)
8:15 PM - Aug 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/PreetBharara/status/903426029527719936)



Joyce White Vance, a law professor at the University of Alabama and the former U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama under Obama, responded to Bharara’s tweet:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/551827796134092801/yy415gLr_normal.jpegJoyce Alene
✔@JoyceWhiteVance (https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance)

In fact, most defense lawyers wouldn't dignify a prosecutor's allegation of a specific crime w/a written response unless charges were close https://twitter.com/PreetBharara/status/903426029527719936 … (https://t.co/r8IB7xiioJ)
8:19 PM - Aug 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/903426949493731328)

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/837014180146339840/SC1ANszZ_normal.jpgPreet Bharara
✔@PreetBharara (https://twitter.com/PreetBharara)

Right. The possibility that POTUS may have obstructed justice is real and serious. Apparently, even Trump's defense lawyers get that. https://twitter.com/joycewhitevance/status/903426949493731328 … (https://t.co/iWRVxZBGig)
8:29 PM - Aug 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/PreetBharara/status/903429497659301888)

In other words, the Trump team is conducting itself as if their leader is a guilty man.

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/01/u-s-attorney-trump-fired-just-said-latest-move-trumps-lawyers-points-toward-guilt/

[boutons_deux]

Republicans upset that FBI investigation showed Hillary was innocent earlier than expected (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/1/1695233/-Republicans-upset-that-FBI-investigation-showed-Hillary-was-innocent-earlier-than-expected)

they think they’ve come up with a club (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/31/politics/comey-clinton-investigation/index.html)that can used against both Clinton and former FBI Director James Comey.


Former FBI Director James Comey drafted a statement exonerating former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for running her government emails through a private email server before completing the investigation, according to two Republican senators.

The cause for the latest Comey-was-too-kind crisis?

The astounding discovery that Comey wrote earlier drafts of his July statement.

A perfectly ordinary procedure which is, of course, being taken in a perfectly ordinary way.


(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)Donald J. Trump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

Wow, looks like James Comey exonerated Hillary Clinton long before the investigation was over...and so much more. A rigged system!
6:56 AM - Sep 1, 2017 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/903587428488839170)



In fact, it appears that Comey — who did not personally lead the investigation into Clinton —

began circulating drafts of his statement to the investigation team as early as May for their feedback.

The reason: Everything they had told him was leading to the outcome that there was going to be no criminal finding.

At the time the note first circulated, investigators still hadn’t talked with Clinton, but it seemed obvious how things were going. (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/31/politics/comey-clinton-investigation/index.html)

The person said back in spring 2016, agents and Justice Department officials were talking about how the investigation would end and there was a belief that the evidence was going in a direction to not support bringing charges.

This individual said by April 2016 the FBI had reviewed most of the evidence and didn't find evidence suggesting that Clinton had violated federal law.

The person said the FBI wanted to interview her but didn't believe it was going to change the outcome.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/1/1695233/-Republicans-upset-that-FBI-investigation-showed-Hillary-was-innocent-earlier-than-expected?detail=emaildkre

[spurraider21]

Man, if Trump has to go before a grand jury about anything it's game over for realsies.
I'd pay to see him cross examined. Would call the questions fake news :lol

[Pavlov]

I'd pay to see him cross examined. Would call the questions fake news :lolGrand jury testimony is where it's at. His lawyers wouldn't even be allowed in the room. Shit had law professor Clinton doing somersaults.

[TSA]

:lol GOP senators say.

TSA, where's your update?Would it be as funny if the title instead said, "Comey drafted Clinton exoneration before finishing investigation, transcripts of interviews with former Comey aides say"?

"Comey prepared the draft exoneration for Clinton before conducting interviews with top Clinton aides who were offered immunity for their cooperation, Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley and Sen. Lindsey Graham said Thursday in a joint statement, citing transcripts of interviews with former Comey aides obtained by the Senate judiciary committee."

[TSA]

Mueller has other ideas about what is and what is not obstruction of justice. You nor I know what he actually has.

You're being selective in picking what you want to highlight. It's a two way street.



It's already known that Mueller is indeed looking at the posibility of obstruction of justice by Trump so I dont know why you're acting like this isn't a thing already happening anyway.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-counsel-is-investigating-trump-for-possible-obstruction-of-justice/2017/06/14/9ce02506-5131-11e7-b064-828ba60fbb98_story.html?utm_term=.6536e2397f5b

Explain to me how some letter whose content didn't dwell on Russia are going to be the nail in the coffin for an obstruction of justice charge dealing with the Russian investigation. djohn2oo8 can't and refuses to try, your turn.

[Pavlov]

Would it be as funny if the title instead said, "Comey drafted Clinton exoneration before finishing investigation, transcripts of interviews with former Comey aides say"?

"Comey prepared the draft exoneration for Clinton before conducting interviews with top Clinton aides who were offered immunity for their cooperation, Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley and Sen. Lindsey Graham said Thursday in a joint statement, citing transcripts of interviews with former Comey aides obtained by the Senate judiciary committee."It's funny no matter what tbh. Just because you declared it a legal slam dunk doesn't mean anything. What were those aides supposed to be guilty of that they needed immunity anyway? What explosive evidence did you think they were sitting on?

[Pavlov]

Explain to me how some letter whose content didn't dwell on Russia are going to be the nail in the coffin for an obstruction of justice charge dealing with the Russian investigation. djohn2oo8 can't and refuses to try, your turn.All it needs is one sentence about Russia if it's the right sentence.

[TSA]

All it needs is one sentence about Russia if it's the right sentence.

"People familiar with the letter said Trump provided the contents of the letter, which was formally drawn up by Miller at Bedminster. They said it did not dwell on Russia."

:cry next time we'll get him :cry

[Chucho]

LOL, "Russia".

[Pavlov]

"People familiar with the letter said Trump provided the contents of the letter, which was formally drawn up by Miller at Bedminster. They said it did not dwell on Russia."

:cry next time we'll get him :cryOK, so you declare victory on the words "did not dwell."

Let's talk about your Mueller investigation theory -- any updates?

[Reck]

Explain to me how some letter whose content didn't dwell on Russia are going to be the nail in the coffin for an obstruction of justice charge dealing with the Russian investigation. djohn2oo8 can't and refuses to try, your turn.

You're putting a lot of faith and trust in anonymous sources saying the letter didn't dwell on Russia. How would you know that?

What is the one thing Trump and his allies go out of their way to deny? Anything relating Russia. For all you know it's a lie.

And for all we know, he did talk about it in the first draft. But the fact that Mueller has a draft of it is relevant to the case. Otherwise, why waste time on it?

[Pavlov]

This is the time where TSA takes a mighty stand over a micron-sized point to avoid talking about something like his "Mueller's secret investigation of Democrats" 4chan remember remember theory.

[TSA]

OK, so you declare victory on the words "did not dwell."

Let's talk about your Mueller investigation theory -- any updates?

Investigation is still ongoing...for both sides.

[Pavlov]

Investigation is still ongoing...for both sides.Yeah, you're going to have to be more specific. All the stuff you were so excited about came and went with no comment at all from you.

What happened?

[TSA]

You're putting a lot of faith and trust in anonymous sources saying the letter didn't dwell on Russia. How would you know that?

What is the one thing Trump and his allies go out of their way to deny? Anything relating Russia. For all you know it's a lie.

And for all we know, he did talk about it in the first draft. But the fact that Mueller has a draft of it is relevant to the case. Otherwise, why waste time on it?
These are anonymous sources from the NYT and WaPo of course I will put my faith in what they are reporting.

[TSA]

Yeah, you're going to have to be more specific. All the stuff you were so excited about came and went with no comment at all from you.

What happened?

ahhh how cute Chumpdumper missed me.

I'm traveling too much these days and and prepping my house for my first born son due in December. I don't have time to bullshit on spurstalk anymore and probably won't in the future. I will periodically drop by this thread like I did today to laugh at the stupid fucks who still think anything will come of this huge waste of tax dollars.

keep up the good fight chump :bobo

[djohn2oo8]

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[Pavlov]

ahhh how cute Chumpdumper missed me.

I'm traveling too much these days and and prepping my house for my first born son due in December. I don't have time to bullshit on spurstalk anymore and probably won't in the future. I will periodically drop by this thread like I did today to laugh at the stupid fucks who still think anything will come of this huge waste of tax dollars.

keep up the good fight chump :bobo:lol the "I don't have the time" surrender.

Just say you were wrong.

Just like you were with pizzagate and Cat Stevens mind control. :bobo

[spurraider21]

ahhh how cute Chumpdumper missed me.

I'm traveling too much these days and and prepping my house for my first born son due in December. I don't have time to bullshit on spurstalk anymore and probably won't in the future. I will periodically drop by this thread like I did today to laugh at the stupid fucks who still think anything will come of this huge waste of tax dollars.

keep up the good fight chump :bobo
So you don't have time to bullshit aka explain your theories. At least you acknowledge your theories are bullshit

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

:lol the "I don't have the time" surrender.

Just say you were wrong.

Just like you were with pizzagate and Cat Stevens mind control. :bobo

Not everyone has time you have and chooses to use said time to post on Spurstalk like you do.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol like TSA wasn't posting on here nonstop before his theory was proved to be bullshit.

[TSA]

So you don't have time to bullshit aka explain your theories. At least you acknowledge your theories are bullshit

I've explained my theories, I don't have time nor care to explain them multiple times.

Best of luck on your bar results :bobo tbh

[TSA]

:lol like TSA wasn't posting on here nonstop before his theory was proved to be bullshit.

The only theory that has been proven to be bullshit was that Russia was behind the DNC hack and leak. All other theories are up in the air, including yours.

[TSA]

903727455919374336

SOP for anyone booted out of a consulate. Do you think the Americans booted out of Moscow left their documents for Russian authorities yes or no?

[TSA]

TSA out

[djohn2oo8]

The only theory that has been proven to be bullshit was that Russia was behind the DNC hack and leak. All other theories are up in the air, including yours.

When was it proven to be bullshit when US Intel has evidence saying otherwise? Good thing US intelligence is smarter than TSA intelligence.

[djohn2oo8]

SOP for anyone booted out of a consulate. Do you think the Americans booted out of Moscow left their documents for Russian authorities yes or no?

Standard operating procedure to turn firefighters away? Eat a stick of dynamite.

[Pavlov]

Not everyone has time you have and chooses to use said time to post on Spurstalk like you do.:lol and now you are able to take time from your baby shower to make it personal.

[Pavlov]

The only theory that has been proven to be bullshit was that Russia was behind the DNC hack and leak. All other theories are up in the air, including yours.And Cat Stevens mind control!

[djohn2oo8]

903768595095805953 Pavlov. Again?

[Pavlov]

Of course these are spy nests. Doesn't necessarily have to do with Trump.

[Quadzilla99]

Satanism

Spirit cooking

[djohn2oo8]

903761489227644930
Pence went on tv the day after Comey was fired and lied.

[boutons_deux]

Russian Election Hacking Efforts, Wider Than Previously Known, Draw Little Scrutiny

Most of the complaints came from Durham, a blue-leaning county in a swing state.

She knew that the company that provided Durham’s software, VR Systems, had been penetrated by Russian hackers months before.
“It felt like tampering, or some kind of cyberattack,”

But months later, for Ms. Greenhalgh, other election security experts and some state officials, questions still linger about what happened that day in Durham as well as other counties in North Carolina, Virginia, Georgia and Arizona.

local, state and federal agencies have conducted little of the type of digital forensic investigation required to assess the impact, if any, on voting in at least 21 states whose election systems were targeted by Russian hackers,

The assaults on the vast back-end election apparatus — voter-registration operations, state and local election databases, e-poll books and other equipment — have received far less attention than other aspects of the Russian interference,

Beyond VR Systems, hackers breached at least two other providers of critical election services well ahead of the 2016 voting,

Government officials said that they intentionally did not address the security of the back-end election systems, whose disruption could prevent voters from even casting ballots.

That’s partly because states control elections; they have fewer resources than the federal government but have long been loath to allow even cursory federal intrusions into the voting process.

That, along with legal constraints on intelligence agencies’ involvement in domestic issues, has hobbled any broad examination of Russian efforts to compromise American election systems.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/politics/russia-election-hacking.html?
module=ArrowsNav&contentCollection=Politics&action=keypress&region=FixedLeft&pgtype=article (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/politics/russia-election-hacking.html?module=ArrowsNav&contentCollection=Politics&action=keypress&region=FixedLeft&pgtype=article)

Putin and his hacking legions obviously think the hicks, rednecks, bubbas, who run state election systems are incompetent, ignorant, vulnerable idiots

[RandomGuy]

The only theory that has been proven to be bullshit was that Russia was behind the DNC hack and leak. All other theories are up in the air, including yours.

Mueller didn't go after Clinton.

I would have won that bet. :p

[RandomGuy]

903761489227644930
Pence went on tv the day after Comey was fired and lied.

He did. If what Trump did was felony obstruction of justice, Pence goes down with him.

[boutons_deux]

Sources Just Revealed Mueller Is Dueling With Congressional Republicans Over His Russia Probe

Conflicts among those involved in the Russia hacking probe are giving Donald Trump cover and dragging out the investigations, which is what the president wants.

One problem is that the Senate and House committees run by Republicans have held private hearings with former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and are soon to hear from Donald Trump Jr. but there are barriers preventing the sharing of what they have learned with Mueller.



Mueller has been urging the House and Senate Intelligence Committees to hold more hearings in public so that he doesn’t have to fight to access the transcripts – which is a problem that has already become a flash point over Manafort’s previous testimony.

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/05/sources-just-revealed-mueller-dueling-congressional-republicans-russia-probe/

[djohn2oo8]

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[Chris]

Me waiting on Mueller time

https://media3.giphy.com/media/iLyOhTeJgFw5O/giphy.gif

[boutons_deux]

905159450645979137

I second that idea.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[AaronY]

Russia Thread: The Movie
aka Game Over part 52: The Game Overing
Made by Boom Productions in association Ka-Boom Enterprises
Sponsored by denzelwashingtonboomgif.jpeg

Plot summary: A lone Asian screeches autistically... it wasn't supposed to be like this etc.. searches desperately for silver bullets to kill the Hideou Trump Beast. A few join in and console him and feed his delusions. ends in sadness. much much sadness.

Starring: djohn as The Boy Who Cried Wolf
With special guest appearances by: Pavlov and RandomGuy as two other guys who also cried eolf
Produced by: whatever brain condition occurs when you stop taking your schizophrenia meds
Directed by: Louise Mensch
Length: 500 trillion posts
Ratings: DH for Dead Horse and D for Desperate

Genres: political thriller, fantasy, fairy tale, alternate universe fiction

[Pavlov]

Russia Thread: The Movie
aka Game Over part 52: The Game Overing
Made by Boom Productions in association Ka-Boom Enterprises
Sponsored by denzelwashingtonboomgif.jpeg

Plot summary: A lone Asian screeches autistically... it wasn't supposed to be like this etc.. searches desperately for silver bullets to kill the Hideou Trump Beast. A few join in and console him and feed his delusions. ends in sadness. much much sadness.

Starring: djohn as The Boy Who Cried Wolf
With special guest appearances by: Pavlov and RandomGuy as two other guys who also cried eolf
Produced by: whatever brain condition occurs when you stop taking your schizophrenia meds
Directed by: Louise Mensch
Length: 500 trillion posts
Ratings: DH for Dead Horse and D for Desperate

Genres: political thriller, fantasy, fairy tale, alternate universe fictioneolf!

[DarrinS]

Russia Thread: The Movie
aka Game Over part 52: The Game Overing
Made by Boom Productions in association Ka-Boom Enterprises
Sponsored by denzelwashingtonboomgif.jpeg

Plot summary: A lone Asian screeches autistically... it wasn't supposed to be like this etc.. searches desperately for silver bullets to kill the Hideou Trump Beast. A few join in and console him and feed his delusions. ends in sadness. much much sadness.

Starring: djohn as The Boy Who Cried Wolf
With special guest appearances by: Pavlov and RandomGuy as two other guys who also cried eolf
Produced by: whatever brain condition occurs when you stop taking your schizophrenia meds
Directed by: Louise Mensch
Length: 500 trillion posts
Ratings: DH for Dead Horse and D for Desperate

Genres: political thriller, fantasy, fairy tale, alternate universe fiction



:lmao

[AaronY]

eolf!Hey I work out of home and I took a break and I worked on that thing for a good 20-30 minutes so just posted it before copyediting since I already cost myself like $10 wasting time on it I could have made working :lol

[djohn2oo8]

905560298702163970
But her emails :cry

[AaronY]

Man you can't faze this kid

[Reck]

Russia Thread: The Movie
aka Game Over part 52: The Game Overing
Made by Boom Productions in association Ka-Boom Enterprises
Sponsored by denzelwashingtonboomgif.jpeg

Plot summary: A lone Asian screeches autistically... it wasn't supposed to be like this etc.. searches desperately for silver bullets to kill the Hideou Trump Beast. A few join in and console him and feed his delusions. ends in sadness. much much sadness.

Starring: djohn as The Boy Who Cried Wolf
With special guest appearances by: Pavlov and RandomGuy as two other guys who also cried eolf
Produced by: whatever brain condition occurs when you stop taking your schizophrenia meds
Directed by: Louise Mensch
Length: 500 trillion posts
Ratings: DH for Dead Horse and D for Desperate

Genres: political thriller, fantasy, fairy tale, alternate universe fiction

Pretty good. LOL

Except the race calling.

[djohn2oo8]

I have Darrin in the self permaban crew when this is over. I would ask AaronY to nut up and bet that I'm wrong, but when he loses no one will miss him.

[AaronY]

Wow really hope I don't get my entire ST life ruined over this thread.

I dunno if anyone will miss me but I'll miss you guys if I do get taken out. It will have been while it lasted though :toast

[Reck]

Don Jr. is going to be testifying tomorrow....behind a closed session though.

[DarrinS]

I have Darrin in the self permaban crew when this is over. I would ask AaronY to nut up and bet that I'm wrong, but when he loses no one will miss him.

:cry sniff :cry

[djohn2oo8]

:cry sniff :cry

Has the investigation ended yet? Oh that was Hillary's.

[djohn2oo8]

Don Jr. is going to be testifying tomorrow....behind a closed session though.

Feinstein said she wants it in public too.

[Thread]

Feinstein said she wants it in public too.

Too damn bad she wasn't in that 6 million, eh?

tee, hee.

[djohn2oo8]

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905603380592201728
LOL

[Pavlov]

Facebook obviously just became deep state today.

[djohn2oo8]

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lol Karma bout to get Ryan

[djohn2oo8]

905603380592201728
LOL

905610526482472961

[Chris]

Troll farms? :lmao

[Chris]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oEjHAUOqG3lSS0f1C/giphy.gif

[Reck]

Troll farms? :lmao

*Not an actual farm.

A just in case for you Chris.

[djohn2oo8]

*Not an actual farm.

A just in case for you Chris.

:lol

[Pavlov]

*Not an actual farm.

A just in case for you Chris.
:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Devin Nunes Just Blew Up At The Attorney General And FBI Director Over Russia Dossier

embattled Congressman Devin Nunes (R-CA), threatened to hold Attorney General Jeff Sessions and FBI Director Chris Wray in contempt of Congress for not relinquishing documents and transcripts of testimony relevant to the infamous Christopher Steel/Fusion GPS dossier (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html)on Trump’s Russia connections by the September 1 deadline.

it remains unclear why Nunes in particular should feel such intense personal desire to see anything and everything “memorializing FBI’s relationship with Mr. Steele, any payments made to Mr. Steele, and efforts to corroborate information provided by Mr. Steele and his sub-sources — whether directly or via Fusion GPS.”

Nunes is the congressman and former Trump campaign surrogate who had to step down from the House Ethics Committee (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-nunes-intelligence-committee-20170525-story.html) after facing serious scrutiny in the spring for alerting Trump to intelligence reports tying the Trump campaign to Russia.

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/06/devin-nunes-just-blew-attorney-general-fbi-director-russia-dossier/

[djohn2oo8]

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McConnell and Ryan.

[boutons_deux]

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McConnell and Ryan.

Billionaire Mercer's firm Cambridge Analytica gave or sold the data to Pootin. Jared and/or DJT Jr gave the Repug demographic data to Cambridge.

Mercer finances Breitbart, financed Trash, and got Bannon, Goebbels Miller, GorKKKa, KrazyAnn Conway into the WH.

[Chris]

Troll farms


































:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Billionaire Mercer's firm Cambridge Analytica gave or sold the data to Pootin. Jared and/or DJT Jr gave the Repug demographic data to Cambridge.

Mercer finances Breitbart, financed Trash, and got Bannon, Goebbels Miller, GorKKKa, KrazyAnn Conway into the WH.

Jared directed the Russian firm. McConnell And Ryan gave the demographics to target.

[djohn2oo8]

Poor Chris thinking it's an actual farm. Lawd!

[RandomGuy]

:cry sniff :cry


Circumstantial evidence is evidence that relies on an inference to connect it to a conclusion of fact—like a fingerprint at the scene of a crime. By contrast, direct evidence supports the truth of an assertion directly—i.e., without need for any additional evidence or inference.

On its own, circumstantial evidence allows for more than one explanation. Different pieces of circumstantial evidence may be required, so that each corroborates the conclusions drawn from the others. Together, they may more strongly support one particular inference over another. An explanation involving circumstantial evidence becomes more likely once alternative explanations have been ruled out[citation needed].

Circumstantial evidence allows a trier of fact to infer that a fact exists.[1] In criminal law, the inference is made by the trier of fact in order to support the truth of an assertion (of guilt or absence of guilt).

Testimony can be direct evidence or it can be circumstantial. For instance, a witness saying that she saw a defendant stab a victim is providing direct evidence. By contrast, a witness who says that she saw the defendant enter a house, that she heard screaming, and that she saw the defendant leave with a bloody knife gives circumstantial evidence. It is the necessity for inference, and not the obviousness of a conclusion, that determines whether evidence is circumstantial.

SEE FACTS BELOW:


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Your move, Putin'spet.


But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest shit possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.

The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

Fact 6:
Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.

Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.

He may be stupid enough to fire Mueller if Mueller starts asking questions that will expose how he has been compromised.

If he does so, he will be impeached. The Republican party will have almost no choice at that point. Congress will find their spine, because they want to be re-elected, and Trump will have gone too far for all but the most jaded hacks.

"Trump warns of 'dangerous low' in Russia relations"

See Fact #3

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/03/politics/russia-us-trump-putin-sanctions/

I find the use of the term "dangerous" to be somewhat telling.

He has repeatedly shown the only thing he is ever genuinely concerned about is himself.

At some point, if the Russians do have compromising material, they might decide to release it. From Trump's selfish perspective, bad relations would vastly increase the danger of that material being made public.

One also has to wonder that after Trump is no longer useful to Russia, when that material will find its way into the light of day.

Once Trump is no longer useful to Putin, then it would be in Russia's interests to release it, since the ensuing scandal would presumably damage US democracy, a chief Russian aim.

If the material were personal in nature, i.e. tapes with prostitutes, it would be pretty easy for them to release it at no cost to themselves.

If the material implicated Russians, such as money laundering that would less likely to be released, unless of course the Russian involved were already disgraced or removed from power.

[djohn2oo8]

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You mean the same Turkish govt Flynn was lobbying for? Ruh Roh.

[RandomGuy]

When you have denial after denial after denial of any contacts, then you start finding some fairly obvious high level contacts that the people involved in "forgot", then you get those meetings downplayed, and a very active disinformation campaign against the investigators...

A steady drip, drip, drip. This is what one would expect from a careful, methodical investigation into something serious and real.

We still get to wait to see what ultimately develops, but it is beginning to look worse and worse for Golfy McVroom Vroom.

[djohn2oo8]

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Ruh ROH

[DarrinS]

Twitter troll farms! Shits getting real -- this time.

[RandomGuy]

Twitter troll farms! Shits getting real -- this time.


But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest shit possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.

The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

Fact 6:
Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.

Fact 7:
Donald Trump, when forced to sign a bipartisan sanctions bill passed with a veto-proof majority of both houses of Congress, issued a signing statement saying most of it was unconstitutional, and that his administration would enforce it as little as possible.


Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.

He may be stupid enough to fire Mueller if Mueller starts asking questions that will expose how he has been compromised.

If he does so, he will be impeached. The Republican party will have almost no choice at that point. Congress will find their spine, because they want to be re-elected, and Trump will have gone too far for all but the most jaded hacks.

[RandomGuy]

How long does that list of facts showing his actions consistent with this theory have to be?

Surely this is not going unnoticed in the intelligence community.

[djohn2oo8]

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What happened to adoptions

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[Reck]

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What happened to adoptions

So he's a doctor now? Who is he to determine anything.

Keep digging that hole deeper Trumpers.

[djohn2oo8]

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... Trash his criminal, justice-obstructing self dictated the letter for DJT Jr.

the smoke, the circumstantial evidence, the lying and forgetting by Trash and his gang PROVE that crimes are being hidden.

[hater]

Twitter troll farms! Shits getting real -- this time.

:lmao

Apparently most of the facebook ads purchased by these russian trolls had nothing to do with election or any candidate :lol

Thats coming out of Facebook themselves

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao

Apparently most of the facebook ads purchased by these russian trolls had nothing to do with election or any candidate :lol

Thats coming out of Facebook themselves

Actually they did. Which is why they turned that over to Mueller.

:lmao hater

[djohn2oo8]

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[hitmanyr2k]

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Don Jr - "Send Junior off to do this, send Junior off to do that. Let Junior take care of some Mickey Mouse night club somewhere. Send Junior to pick somebody up at the airport. I'm the older brother and I was stepped over!"

Ivanka - "It's the way Pop wanted it"

Don Jr - It ain't the way I wanted it!! I can handle things. I'm smart! Not like everybody says...like dumb..I'm smart! And I want respect!"

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

Poor ducks.

[Chris]

Proof that investigating Trump is starting to backfire for Democrats

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/storm-harvey_trump1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


There’s a lot going on in the Hillary Clinton/Donald Trump/Russia investigation that all the highfalutin’ newspapers that cover politics are still trying to ignore.

Well, investors had better know this stuff before it bites them in the assets. So here goes.

Numerous reports coming out of the Senate Judiciary Committee last week said that former FBI Director James Comey made the decision not to refer Clinton for prosecution long before he even interviewed key witnesses, including Hillary.

Remember, the Republicans now control this committee. So bad news isn’t going to be stifled anymore.

Clinton, you probably remember, “lost” her private emails, which she’d been storing on a personal computer server. Comey chastised her harshly in a televised speech but then said there was a unanimous decision not to recommend prosecution.

Clinton’s emails, which were stolen by the Russians, have never been found. But as I’ve mentioned numerous times, the messages are still in the possession of the National Security Agency (NSA), which offered to give them to the FBI.

Comey turned down that offer, according to a source who has been very reliable.

I’ve also mentioned that Comey fibbed when he said his agents unanimously agreed that prosecution was unnecessary. In fact, my source says that FBI agents were irate about the decision not to go after Clinton.

The controversy got pretty intense, which may be why Comey forced agents who worked on the Clinton matter to sign additional nondisclosure agreements.

There was another important development last week when a federal judge ordered the FBI to disclose more details about how it handled the Clinton investigation. That could put Comey in a hotter spot than he’s already in.

What’s this got to do with the investigation of Trump and any influence the Russians may have had over the last presidential election? Absolutely nothing.

But as I’ve said before, any investigation of Trump was likely to backfire when investigators started to look at the Democrats and their dealings.

And that’s exactly what is starting to happen.

http://nypost.com/2017/09/04/proof-that-investigating-trump-is-starting-to-backfire-for-democrats/

[Pavlov]

:lol right. Clinton is the one in trouble now.

[spurraider21]

:lol right. Clinton is the one in trouble now.
Susan Rice and George Soros getting indicted in 3...2...1...

[boutons_deux]

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[boutons_deux]

Tapper one DJT Jr LIES

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1687603377999376/

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Lawyer Just Got Pranked And Let Out That Flynn and Manafort Are Toast

http://occupydemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/screen-shot-2017-09-07-at-52416-pm.jpg

Lawyers usually paint a rosy picture of all parties on their own side of a big case, but Cobb freely admitted to prankster @Sinon_Reborn, (https://twitter.com/SINON_REBORN)

who contacted him from the e-mail [email protected], that

the investigation into Paul Manafort and Gen. Flynn would continue even if Trump was cleared.

As FBI Director James Comey explained in his June testimony to Congress (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/08/full-text-james-comey-trump-russia-testimony-239295), that the Trump Russia investigation naturally includes Cobb’s client, Donald Trump, as the head of his own campaign:

“The nature of the investigation was such that it might well touch, obviously it would touch, the campaign, and the person that headed the campaign would be the candidate.”


White House Counsel Ty Cobb has been making all the wrong headlines recently

by openly insulting (http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lawyer-ty-cobb-comey-letter-2017-9) Ms. Bertrand in late night e-mails for asking earnest questions, and

fighting with trolls (http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lawyer-ty-cobb-email-russia-2017-9) before strangely confiding those very same anonymous people who e-mail him torrid insults late at night.


http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/07/trumps-lawyer-just-got-pranked-let-flynn-manafort-toast/

Cobb "may" be a good lawyer, but he's awfully easy to get pranked and baited by internet trolls, which indicates he's not a carefully spoken lawyer, sorta like his employer Trash, shooting from hip, mouthing off with anything, and retweeted bogus shit.

I bet Mueller will get Flynn and Manafort to accept pleas to squeal on Trash.

[Chucho]

Trump’s Lawyer Just Got Pranked And Let Out That Flynn and Manafort Are Toast

http://occupydemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/screen-shot-2017-09-07-at-52416-pm.jpg

Lawyers usually paint a rosy picture of all parties on their own side of a big case, but Cobb freely admitted to prankster @Sinon_Reborn, (https://twitter.com/SINON_REBORN)

who contacted him from the e-mail [email protected], that

the investigation into Paul Manafort and Gen. Flynn would continue even if Trump was cleared.

As FBI Director James Comey explained in his June testimony to Congress (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/08/full-text-james-comey-trump-russia-testimony-239295), that the Trump Russia investigation naturally includes Cobb’s client, Donald Trump, as the head of his own campaign:

“The nature of the investigation was such that it might well touch, obviously it would touch, the campaign, and the person that headed the campaign would be the candidate.”


White House Counsel Ty Cobb has been making all the wrong headlines recently

by openly insulting (http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lawyer-ty-cobb-comey-letter-2017-9) Ms. Bertrand in late night e-mails for asking earnest questions, and

fighting with trolls (http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lawyer-ty-cobb-email-russia-2017-9) before strangely confiding those very same anonymous people who e-mail him torrid insults late at night.


http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/07/trumps-lawyer-just-got-pranked-let-flynn-manafort-toast/

Cobb "may" be a good lawyer, but he's awfully easy to get pranked and baited by internet trolls, which indicates he's not a carefully spoken lawyer, sorta like his employer Trash, shooting from hip, mouthing off with anything, and retweeted bogus shit.

I bet Mueller will get Flynn and Manafort to accept pleas to squeal on Trash.



LOL. Nothing will happen, per par. Stop it with the fake news propos, baby girl.

[Chris]

Russians? Nope.

Trump? Yep.

Comey? Nope.

Gowdy? Yep.

Mueller? Nope.

Judicial Watch? Yep.

Libtard? Nope.

American? Yep.

Troll account? Nope.

Run this forum? Yep.

PKOO-3A2LWM

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[DarrinS]

Another day; another boom

[Reck]

Another day; another boom

And another Darrins post in a thread he doesn't care about. :tu

[djohn2oo8]

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Susan Rice and George Soros getting indicted in 3...2...1...

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

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lol the whole west wing lawyering up

[Chris]

Any updates on those troll farms? :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Any updates on those troll farms? :lmao

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/submission/17707/troll+farm

Poor idiot thinks it's an actual farm.

[Chris]

Another day; another boom

[boutons_deux]

Steve Bannon Says Trump Firing Comey May Be Biggest Mistake In Modern Politics

“If James Comey had not been fired, we would not have a special counsel.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-comey-charlie-rose_us_59b5e0cfe4b0b5e531070b47?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__091117&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__091117+CID_50776ccd 9f408542e04d35cbe0109037&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__091117

nope, I think Manafort and Flynn were already in FBI's GUN SIGHTS before Comey was fired, pulling on those threads would have led Comey to Trash.

Firing Comey only kicked the hornet's nest that was already buzzing loudly.

Trash's intelllectual and emotional retardations render him truly stupid and ignorant.

Firing Comey? What was he thinking?

[boutons_deux]

How Russia Created the Most Popular Texas Secession Page on Facebook

One other arena these actors may have targeted: secession movements within the U.S. At this point, it’s little secret that a number of American secession movements?—?including Puerto Rico, Hawaii, and both white and black nationalists?—?have constructed links with Russian actors, including those funded by the Kremlin.

Moscow’s ties to the California secession movement, which received a boost following Donald Trump’s election, have seen the greatest coverage?—?understandably so, given the former #Calexit leader’s willingness to highlight his links to the Moscow-funded Anti-Globalization Movement of Russia (AGMR) at every turn.

#Calexit was further “amplified by many of the same accounts that infiltrated conservative Twitter communities and promoted a pro-Trump, white nationalist agenda.”

I put together a piece for POLITICO Magazine detailing the ties between Lone Star secessionists and Russia, dovetailing off a recent visit from the Texas “foreign minister” to St. Petersburg, where the Texan turned to Russian media to fan the flames of secession.

As local Russian officials were threatening to deliver arms to Mexico (and unidentified “guerrillas”)

to allow Mexico City to reclaim Texas,

Texas secessionists themselves were finding sympathetic ears in Moscow.

And that’s where the evidence, as of mid-2017, stood, as it pertained to Moscow’s links with Texas separatism.

Funding for travel to,

and organizing in, Moscow;

plumping support in Russian-backed outlets like RT and Sputnik;

odd comments about funding Mexican guerrillas to claim lands lost.

https://extranewsfeed.com/how-russia-created-the-most-popular-texas-secession-page-on-facebook-fd4dfd05ee5c

you USA guvmint hater "patriots" are such gullible jerkoffs, suckered by MUCH SMARTER Pootin into a treasonous shithole.

[djohn2oo8]

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Another day another FBI investigation Hillary aint a part of.

[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

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lol the whole west wing lawyering up

I'd give this hot bitch a pass tbh. Reminds me of Keri Russel.

[hater]

Any updates on those troll farms? :lmao

:lmao

Trolls are being harvested for pupkin season :lol

[Chris]

:lmao

Trolls are being harvested for pupkin season :lol

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Look at Chris and Hater pretending not to be worried. Seems they should post more about Hillary's investigation.

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Kiss of death time :lmao

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[DarrinS]

Major trouble, tbh

[Reck]

Major trouble, tbh

Honest question, Darrins...

Do you think this investigation is fake or not consequential?

You're acting like this is some sort of joke. An actual sitting president is being investigated for a variety of reasons and you think this is funny. LOL

[DarrinS]

Honest question, Darrins...

Do you think this investigation is fake or not consequential?

You're acting like this is some sort of joke. An actual sitting president is being investigated for a variety of reasons and you think this is funny. LOL


Mueller time, tbh

[Pavlov]

Hey, Darrin is being snarky!

[DarrinS]

Hey, Darrin is being snarky!

Chump is being Chump!

[pgardn]

Honest question, Darrins...

Do you think this investigation is fake or not consequential?

You're acting like this is some sort of joke. An actual sitting president is being investigated for a variety of reasons and you think this is funny. LOL

Short attention span.

This is gonna take time.
" We" want this to be hurricane fast and then forget about it.
This will be exactly the opposite.

[Chris]

https://conservativetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/200057_600.jpg

[Pavlov]

Chump is being Chump!Snark, blacks, antifa. That's all you are.

[Pavlov]

Another day, another *ding*

[Reck]

Snark, blacks, antifa. That's all you are.

I forget that Darrins is terrified of the blacks from that beatdown he recieved many years ago.

Poor guy is compensating.

[Pavlov]

I forget that Darrins is terrified of the blacks from that beatdown he recieved many years ago.

Poor guy is compensating.He is always bringing it up but never actually wants to talk about it. Dude needs some therapy.

[tlongII]

Indictments coming soon?

[Chucho]

Snark, blacks, antifa. That's all you are.
You're no more diverse.

[Chris]

"Fuk yo ding clown"

-datrillb0t

[boutons_deux]

Member of Duma admits ‘Russian intelligence stole the president of the United States’ on live TV

Writing on Axios (https://www.axios.com/russian-politician-says-russia-stole-u-s-presidency-on-live-tv-2484056561.html), Becca Rotenberg said the comments were made by Vyacheslav Nikonov on the Russian TV show, “Sunday Evening with Vladimir Solovyov.”

According to Julia Davis, writing on Twitter, “#Russia (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Russia?src=hash)‘s state TV mocks American intelligence services: MP Vyacheslav Nikonov says

U.S. spies slept while Russia elected a U.S. President.”
Clarifying the comment, Nikonov reportedly blurted U.S. “intelligence missed it when Russian intelligence stole the president of the United States.”

The Hill (http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/350040-russian-pol-us-intelligence-missed-it-while-russian-intelligence-stole) notes that the panel Nikonov was participating on focused on the diminishing power of the United States on the world stage.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/member-of-duma-admits-russian-intelligence-stole-the-president-of-the-united-states-on-live-tv/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

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Putin’s Real Long Game

The world order we know is already over, and Russia is moving fast to grab the advantage.



http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/putins-real-long-game-214589

Pootin electing the ignorant, stupid, feckless, sicko clown Trash is a huge victory for Pootin, lowering the world's opinion of USA and its so-called freedom and democracy.

[RandomGuy]

Another day; another boom


Russian operatives hiding behind false identities used Facebook’s event management tool to remotely organize and promote political protests in the U.S., including an August 2016 anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim rally in Idaho, The Daily Beast has learned. […]

The Facebook events—one of which echoed Islamophobic conspiracy theories pushed by pro-Trump media outlets—are the first indication that the Kremlin’s attempts to shape America’s political discourse moved beyond fake news and led unwitting Americans into specific real-life action.

“This is the next step,” Clint Watts, a former FBI agent and expert on Russia’s influence campaign, told The Daily Beast. “The objective of influence is to create behavior change. The simplest behavior is to have someone disseminate propaganda that Russia created and seeded. The second part of behavior influence is when you can get people to physically do something.”

“Due to the town of Twin Falls, Idaho, becoming a center of refugee resettlement, which led to the huge upsurge of violence towards American citizens, it is crucial to draw society’s attention to this problem … “

DAMN.

Just … DAMN.


The event host was called “SecuredBorders,” and it was a Russian front. On top of the Alex Jones exclusives on the Great Idaho Refugee Yogurt Rapes that led up to the event, the Daily Beast notes that Dead Breitbart also wrote many “news” blog posts about the Idaho situation. Dead Breitbart has not yet apologized to yogurt.

NOW do people see why Robert Mueller is investigating Breitbart and InfoWars and looking into Russian bots and Russian military intelligence buying Facebook ads and all that hullabaloo? Because shit is real and an enemy nation literally was (and is) all up in our American business, inciting far right racists and pushing fake Hillary news to Bernie supporters, to sow loathing (it worked!) and install their puppet in the White House.

In related news, the FBI is reportedly investigating the Russian state-owned Sputnik media organization, to see if it was working directly for the Kremlin as part of Russia’s disinformation campaign during the election. We have a feeling we are just barely starting to scratch the surface of the Russian digital operation that helped sway the election in the unqualified orange fuckseed’s direction.

Of course, Mueller is also probing First Son-In-Law Prince Jared Kushner’s role in the Trump-Russia conspiracy. Kushner oversaw the Trump campaign’s digital operation, and he met with a metric shitload of Russians during the campaign and the transition too. How odd! Wonder if that has anything to do with why some of Donald Trump’s lawyers reportedly wanted Kushner to quit his White House job because of his role in the Russia investigation.

Is it possible these things are all connected?





Read more at https://wonkette.com/622802/russia-all-up-in-trump-racists-facebooks-inviting-them-to-racism-sex-orgies#KmAIzRhdRrzjzYbh.99

[Pavlov]

MERICAN "CONSERVATIVE": Hah! Social media never influenced me!

[reposts fake meme]

[Axl Rose]

MERICAN "CONSERVATIVE": Hah! Social media never influenced me!

[reposts fake meme]
The smithsonian called, they said it's about time to retire your old ass and put you on exhibit. Your scientific name is vegetarius cuckus. 15 years give it up, you have OCD.

[Chucho]

The smithsonian called, they said it's about time to retire your old ass and put you on exhibit. Your scientific name is vegetarius cuckus. 15 years give it up, you have OCD.
:lmao

[Chucho]

He's got nothing better to do. At all. Whatsoever. Nadda. Zip. Zilch.

[Chris]

NOW do people see why Robert Mueller is investigating Breitbart and InfoWars and looking into Russian bots

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[monosylab1k]

spamgif.exe uploaded and functional :tu

[Chris]

spamgif.exe uploaded and functional :tu

When is boom drop coming?

[Pavlov]

When is boom drop coming?Chris, how long do you think these kinds of investigations take?

[Chris]

Chris, how long do you think these kinds of investigations take?

I'm just waiting for something tangible, preferably plausible as well.

[Axl Rose]

He's got nothing better to do. At all. Whatsoever. Nadda. Zip. Zilch.
He's like a crazed OCD homosexual, who can't resist jumping at any dick that comes his way to fuck him next. He's obsessed and can't resist responding long enough to log out for good. Everyone else has moved on pretty much.

[Pavlov]

I'm just waiting for something tangible, preferably plausible as well.You didn't answer the question. How long do you think these kinds of investigations take?

[Chucho]

He's like a crazed OCD homosexual, who can't resist jumping at any dick that comes his way to fuck him next. He's obsessed and can't resist responding long enough to log out for good. Everyone else has moved on pretty much.

Again...nothing better to do. At all. He doesn't lead a busy life. Lots of spare time. Idle hands.

[RandomGuy]

Again...nothing better to do. At all. He doesn't lead a busy life. Lots of spare time. Idle hands.

He asks questions that asshats can't answer.

Generally if he has to go two or three times without getting an answer that is a huge red flag that someone is making a dishonest argument.

Seems fairly useful, IMO.

[Chucho]

He asks questions that asshats can't answer.

Generally if he has to go two or three times without getting an answer that is a huge red flag that someone is making a dishonest argument.

Seems fairly useful, IMO.

Makes it all the sadder for the poor bastard.

[Axl Rose]

He asks questions that asshats can't answer.

Generally if he has to go two or three times without getting an answer that is a huge red flag that someone is making a dishonest argument.

Seems fairly useful, IMO.

who are you, his own personal cocksucker? Stay in your own lane

[boutons_deux]

Russia probes pose loyalty test for Team Trump

Current and former White House aides caught up in the probe are being advised by their attorneys to tell the truth – even if that might hurt the president.

Lawyers representing Donald Trump’s current and former aides are giving their clients one simple piece of advice: Don’t lie to protect the president.

As special counsel Robert Mueller and congressional investigators prepare to question high-ranking aides — including Hope Hicks, Reince Priebus and Sean Spicer — in the coming weeks, Trump’s long history of demanding his employees’ complete loyalty is being put to the test.

But Trump stalwarts know the president is closely following the media coverage of the Russia case — and the last thing they want is to be deemed a turncoat whose answers end up becoming further fuel for investigators.

Several of the lawyers representing current and former aides told POLITICO they’re actively warning their clients that any bonds connecting them to Trump won’t protect them from criminal charges if federal prosecutors can nail them for perjury, making false statements or obstruction of justice.

“What I always tell clients is you can’t protect anybody. You can only hurt yourself,”

said a lawyer representing a client involved in the Russia probe. The attorney added that any overt attempts to protect Trump will raise wider suspicions of a cover-up, making matters “worse for everybody.”

“Efforts to concoct a story to protect somebody are almost inevitably doomed to failure,”

the attorney explained.

“All you do is create liability to yourself that didn’t exist before.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/12/trump-russia-investigation-loyalty-242570

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Press Secretary Just Urged The Justice Department To Prosecute Fired FBI Director Comey
the White House is ramping up its war of words to discredit Comey, charging that he needs to be investigated and possibly punished.

Responding to a question (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/12/justice-department-james-comey-prosecution-sarah-sanders-242605) about former White House Chief Strategist Steven Bannon’s insistence on 60 Minutes that Trump’s firing of Comey was a huge mistake, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said today that in light of new revelations,

the President stands firmly behind his decision to fire the FBI Director.


“Since the director’s firing,” said Sanders, according to Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/11/new-pressure-on-comey-to-return-to-capitol-hill-as-white-house-accuses-him-false-testimony.html), “we’ve learned new information about his conduct that only provided further justification for that firing.”


Sanders charged Comey (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-justice-department-should-certainly-look-at-prosecuting-former-fbi-director-james-comey/article/2634176) gave “false testimony” to Congress, which is perjury, but said it is not the president’s role or her job to investigate whether he broke the law by leaking classified information and giving false testimony before Congress while under oath.



“That’s the job of the Department of Justice,” said Sanders, “and something they should certainly look at.”


Sanders was asked if the White House wanted to see Comey investigated.


“I think if there’s ever a moment where we feel someone’s broken the law,” answered Sanders, “particularly if they’re the head of the FBI, I think that’s something that certainly should be looked at.”



In an obvious effort to discredit Comey and justify his firing, the White House has previously charged that the former FBI Director acted illegally when he had a friend share memos about conversations with Trump with the New York Times, as he acknowledged in July in testimony before Congress.

This is all part of an

ongoing White House campaign to justify the firing of Comey and discredit him in advance of any actions by Mueller

to claim the firing was really an obstruction of justice by the president out of fear of the Russia investigation.

This drumbeat of suspicion which Trump wants to

plant that Comey is the real criminal is going to continue,

but the reality is that like the investigation into Secretary Clinton’s private email server,

it is just a distraction.

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/12/trumps-press-secretary-just-urged-justice-department-prosecute-fired-fbi-director-comey/

What about?

criminal Hillary email?

criminal Comey?

Benghazi?

Trash and his team are gonna get fucked real hard.

[Chris]

Comey on the hot seat, not Trump!

[Reck]

Comey on the hot seat, not Trump!

Says who? Fat ass Huckabee Sanders?

[Pavlov]

Comey on the hot seat, not Trump!Who's investigating Comey?

TSA?

[djohn2oo8]

907751968189198336

[djohn2oo8]

907554415489441794

[djohn2oo8]

Hmm thats now 4 Repugs that have decided to not run again, so far this week.....hmmm.

[Reck]

Hmm thats now 4 Repugs that have decided to not run again, so far this week.....hmmm.

Who decided not to run?

[djohn2oo8]

Who decided not to run?

907267526723284993

[djohn2oo8]

907763996610191360
Something afoot...

[boutons_deux]

The surprising new strategy of pro-Russia bots

Co-ordinated groups of Twitter bots pushing pro-Russian propaganda have developed an odd but occasionally effective strategy - retweeting messages that the bot-makers disagree with and flooding their enemies with followers.

Brian Krebs is an investigative journalist with a big social media following. But even he was surprised when one of his tweets was retweeted thousands of times:

"I woke up the next morning and found about 12,000 retweets... I also found I had about the same number of new followers," he told BBC Trending radio. "Part of me wanted this to be true [and all the followers to be real]."

Krebs, who wrote about the experience on his blog (https://krebsonsecurity.com/2017/08/twitter-bots-use-likes-rts-for-intimidation/), immediately suspected he'd been on the receiving end of a bot attack.

Bots - automated or semi-automated accounts which tweet or retweet automatically - have been at the centre of allegations of Russian interference in Western elections. US intelligence agencies claim that bots spread false news stories and misinformation during the 2016 presidential election campaign.

And networks of bots were also involved in spreading memes, gifs and misinformation in the run-up to the French presidential election in spring 2017.

The Russian government denies that they operate or fund bot networks. And there's no definitive evidence connecting botnets, even if they do push pro-Russia stories, to the Kremlin. The pro-Russian bots could be operated, as President Vladimir Putin once put it, by "patriotic" Russian citizens acting independently.

But why would pro-Russia accounts retweet a message like Krebs' tweet, which runs contrary to their views?

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41203789 (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41203789)

[boutons_deux]

A Russian billionaire with ties to Manafort is out on $174 million bail — but lawyer claims his extradition is ‘imminent’


http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/manafort_russian.jpg

A ccording to the attorney for a Russian oligarch with extensive ties to former Donald Trump campaign manager Paul Manfort, his client is close to being extradited to the U.S. from Austria, reports the Chicago Tribune (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chicagoinc/ct-dmitry-firtash-inc-20170911-story.html).

“Imminent,” and “at risk,” is how attorney Dan Webb described the extradition of his client, Dmitry Firtash, who is currently free on $174 million bond overseas.

Firtash has battling extradition to the U.S. since his 2014 arrest in Vienna after being accused of masterminding a titanium-mining racket involving Boeing.

According to Firtash and his lawyer, he claims he was targeted at the time by the Obama administration as punishment for Putin’s annexation of Crimea.

Firtash’s attorney admitted that fears that his client might “hop on a private plane and head over to Moscow, or to some other country where we can’t extradite him,” in the extradition is approved.

Complicating Firtash’s return to Chicago to face charges based on federal wiretaps, is his connection to Manafort, who is also under investigation by the FBI.

According to USA Today, Firtash has been connected to the Russian mob and has business dealings with Manfort dating back to 2008.

According to Manafort, he “never had a business relationship” with Firtash.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/a-russian-billionaire-with-ties-to-manafort-is-out-on-174-million-bail-but-lawyer-claims-his-extradition-is-imminent/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

‘More smoking guns than Bonnie and Clyde’: House Dem blasts Nunes’ ‘obstructive behavior’ in Trump-Russia probe



A member of the House Intelligence Committee told MSNBC host Chris Matthews that Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) is “obstructing” the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Matthews asked Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) about Vyacheslav Nikonov, a member of Russia’s parliament, bragging (http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/member-of-duma-admits-russian-intelligence-stole-the-president-of-the-united-states-on-live-tv/) about stealing the presidential election.

“Are your Republican colleagues as in the know as the Russian Duma members are? Do they know what’s going on or are they still denying it?” Matthews asked.

“Well first, we just need to president to accept…” Rep. Swalwell began, before Matthews interrupted.

“Like Nunes, I don’t know what he’s up to, that guy,” Matthews exclaimed.

“He looks like such a homer for the Trump crowd in the White House.”

Matthews then asked about Derek Harvey (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/flynn-loyalist-ousted-from-nsc-joins-nunes-house-intelligence-committee-staff/), a Mike Flynn loyalist who was ousted from the National Security Advisor was hired by Rep. Nunes, who chairs the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

“On our committee I have not seen the acceptance that Russia interfered with our election and we have a responsibility to do something about it,” Rep. Swalwell noted.

“And when you look at the eagerness and willingness of the Trump campaign to work with the Russians, we have more smoking guns than Bonnie and Clyde — we have the evidence that they were willing to work with the Russians,” the former prosecutor explained.

“The question is did it materialize to a working relationship.”

Swalwell says that this isn’t just about accountability for the 2016 election, but about deterring future election interference.

“Nothing sharpens the knives of the Russians more for a future attack than disunity among our investigation,” Swalwell explained.

“Nothing will strengthen our shield in a future attack than having a report that understands Russia, identifies who was responsible and makes reforms so it never happens again.

We don’t have that right now.”

“Are you confident that your commmittee, the House Intelligence Committee, is going to break this case?” Matthews asked.

“It’s troubling Chris, it’s like watching your favorite football team complete a 20-yard pass and the next play, you have a 10-yard sack,” Rep. Swalwell related. “That’s what the obstructive behavior by the chairman does.”

“I get the feeling that your chairman is hiring some Trumpster from the White House to help quash this investigation,” Matthews noted. “That’s what it looks like. Is that what’s going on here?”

“He’s being obstructive,” Rep. Swalwell noted. “I don’t know what his motives are, but it keeps us from being able to do our job.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/more-smoking-guns-than-bonnie-and-clyde-house-dem-blasts-nunes-obstructive-behavior-in-trump-russia-probe/

[boutons_deux]

FBI probed over Jeff Sessions’ Russia contacts

http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Jeff-Sessions-3-800x430.jpg

A new lawsuit has challenged the FBI to release advice it gave Attorney General Jeff Sessions about whether his contacts with Russia’s ambassador to the U.S. during the 2016 election should have been included on his security clearance application.

After CNN revealed Sessions had at least two meetings with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in May, the attorney general said he left contacts with the dignitary off his application because he was told to by the FBI.

Later it was revealed

Sessions met with Kislyak as many as three times (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jeff-sessions-russia-meetings-secret-james-comey-senate-testimony-closed-a7782206.html) after he testified:

“I did not have communications with the Russians” during his Senate confirmation hearing. Sessions released (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-sessions/sessions-releases-heavily-redacted-record-of-foreign-contacts-idUSKBN19Y1ZT) a redacted copy of his application form in July.

“If Jeff Sessions wants us to believe his excuse, he should prove it,” said Austin Evers, executive director of the government watchdog group American Oversight in astatement (https://www.americanoversight.org/pfaw-american-oversight-sue-doj-fbi-failing-provide-documents-alleged-sessions-fbi-instructions) about the new lawsuit (https://www.americanoversight.org/document/pfaw-v-fbi) Tuesday.

The Washington Post later revealed

two of Sessions conversations with Kislyak (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-discussed-trump-campaign-related-matters-with-russian-ambassador-us-intelligence-intercepts-show/2017/07/21/3e704692-6e44-11e7-9c15-177740635e83_story.html?tid=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.f2893fe6c52e) concerned campaign matters.

“American Oversight is joining People For the American Way in suing for the release of documents corroborating—or disproving—Sessions’ latest excuse,” said Evers after

the FBI failed to respond to their freedom of information request after the agency said it would process it in 20 days after July 25. The FBI’s response is nearly a month overdue.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/fbi-probed-over-jeff-sessions-russia-contacts/

[djohn2oo8]

908007706975510528

[boutons_deux]

Michael Flynn failed to disclose Russia—Saudi nuke deal—Democratswant Mueller to investigate (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/13/1698165/-Michael-Flynn-failed-to-disclose-Russia-Saudi-nuke-deal-Democrats-want-Mueller-to-investigate)

Democratic Congressmen Elijah Cummings and Eliot Engel have sent a note to Special Counsel Robert Mueller, informing him of yet another unrecorded trip (http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/13/politics/democrats-mueller-flynn-middle-east-trip-disclosure/index.html?adkey=bn)by former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.


… Michael Flynn failed to disclose a trip he took to the Middle East to explore a business deal with the Saudi government and a Russian government agency. …

Democrats sought information from three American companies in June after Newsweek reported that Flynn traveled to the Middle East in the summer of 2015 to broker a $100 billion deal between the companies, Saudi Arabia and Russia's nuclear power agency. In response, officials from the US companies provided statements to the Democrats, confirming Flynn's trip in 2015.


A trip to the Middle East to work out a deal that involved both the Saudi and Russian governments would definitely seem like something that might have come up when Flynn was disclosing his overseas connections. But the subject of those discussions (http://www.newsweek.com/2017/06/23/flynn-russia-nuclear-energy-middle-east-iran-saudi-arabia-qatar-israel-donald-623396.html)makes the omission even more serious.

In June 2015, knowledgeable sources tell Newsweek, Flynn flew to Egypt and Israel on behalf of X-Co/Iron Bridge.

His mission: to gauge attitudes in Cairo and Jerusalem toward a plan for a joint U.S.-Russian (and Saudi-financed) program to get control over the Arab world’s rush to acquire nuclear power.

At the core of their concern was a fear that states in the volatile Middle East would have inadequate security for the plants and safeguards for their radioactive waste—the stuff of nuclear bombs.


Flynn pitched Arab countries on the idea of nuclear plants paid for by the Saudis and operated by a consortium of US companies and Russian agencies.

But it wasn’t actually a power plan.

It was a power play for a giant international protection racket.

If the Saudis and other Arab states buy in, it won’t be for energy, says Thomas Cochran, a prominent scientist and nuclear nonproliferation proponent involved with the ACU project. “They are buying security,” he tells Newsweek. Under the ACU plan, “they’re buying a security arrangement involving the U.S., Russia, France, and the U.K., eventually.”


The idea was that Russia, facing what Johnson called an “economic and existential calamity” because of low oil prices, could use the income generated from the partnership. The consortium could then purchase “Russian military hardware” to compensate Moscow for losing military sales to Iran.



If the Flynn deal went through, Russia would be encouraged to decrease their support for Iran. In exchange, they’d get massive sums of cash, not only through nuclear deals, but arms sales.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/13/1698165/-Michael-Flynn-failed-to-disclose-Russia-Saudi-nuke-deal-Democrats-want-Mueller-to-investigate?detail=emaildkre1

C O V E R U P

[Chris]

The Mueller Probe - probing where no man could possibly fathom.

[Pavlov]

Chris certainly doesn't understand any of it.

[Reck]

908018624627126275

Putin ain't gonna be happy. :lol

The guy thought he'd have even more freebies with Trump and he now finds himself with even less that he started with.

[djohn2oo8]

907927989320478720

[djohn2oo8]

907976751510417409

[djohn2oo8]

908078366997315589 Reck. TSA just took the biggest L of.his life.

[boutons_deux]

It looks like Mr Digital Jared and Mercer's Cambridge Analytica are getting linked up deeper, with Jared suspected of giving Repug demographic/voter data to C/A, and my guess is that C/A gave/sold their demographic to Pootin's "patriotic" army of hackers, spammers.

[djohn2oo8]

908090620035698688

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

908085439994703877
908086245913489408
908086856532852737
:lmao TSA

[Reck]

908078366997315589 Reck (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412). TSA just took the biggest L of.his life.

Check out the official Susan Thread. I bumped it.

:lol TSA indictment predictions

[Reck]

Nunes should also resign immediately.

[RandomGuy]

Check out the official Susan Thread. I bumped it.

:lol TSA indictment predictions

:cry but her emails...

[boutons_deux]

Why Sunni UAE helping Russia?

Sunni Arabs were/are trying to get Russia to stop supporting Shiite Iran (Iran and Russia support Syria)

Shit's way too complicated for Trash is understand.

[djohn2oo8]

819749996300038144
My nigga John back in January

[DarrinS]

819749996300038144
My nigga John back in January

Drinking at the Mensch well again. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

908109266841751552

[djohn2oo8]

Drinking at the Mensch well again. :lol

Susan Rice sending you and TSA to the tree of woe, along with Flynn Bannon Kushner and Nunes :lol

[DarrinS]

Susan Rice sending you and TSA to the tree of woe, along with Flynn Bannon Kushner and Nunes :lol

I'm just pointing out that you would have more credibility, if you stopped posting tweets from nutters.

[djohn2oo8]

I'm just pointing out that you would have more credibility, if you stopped posting tweets from nutters.

Im pointing out you wouldn't feel the need to check this thread everyday if there was no credibility. Poor guy.

[DarrinS]

Im pointing out you wouldn't feel the need to check this thread everyday if there was no credibility. Poor guy.

You should consider unfollowing Louise, Claude, and Schindler.

[djohn2oo8]

You should consider unfollowing Louise, Claude, and Schindler.
Poor Darrin. Susan Rice delivering a death blow to the unmasking crew.

[DarrinS]

Poor Darrin. Susan Rice delivering a death blow to the unmasking crew.

Ok

[djohn2oo8]

908088542743625729
lol Durrin

[Reck]

You should consider unfollowing Louise, Claude, and Schindler.

Didn't Schndler nailed the Manafort Raid months before it happened?

[DarrinS]

Didn't Schndler nailed the Manafort Raid months before it happened?

A broken clock is right twice a day.

[djohn2oo8]

Didn't Schndler nailed the Manafort Raid months before it happened?

It was Taylor and Mensch who both said there were two different searches on Manafort's properties. One Manafort consented to in which he cleaned out his apartment before that search in which the feds knew. Hence the raid on his house.

[Pavlov]

You should consider unfollowing Louise, Claude, and Schindler.They seem to be more right than wrong about things as time goes by, so no. Might as well keep up with them. I won't bother asking you to explain yourself because you won't.

[RandomGuy]

They seem to be more right than wrong about things as time goes by, so no. Might as well keep up with them. I won't bother asking you to explain yourself because you won't.

What is interesting is how many things that can be corroborated out of the Steele dossier have panned out, as time goes by.

At this point, I am sadly confident that, as soon as Trump is out of office and not useful to the Russian government anymore, sex tapes of Donny are going to come out.

[Chris]

One of these days. Really big boom. Mueller time.

[Pavlov]

:lol Chris in total denial about the flip flop.

[Axl Rose]

If trump signs legal protections for daca recipients he won't be winning reelection. This past election was a referendum on immigration and if he doesn't follow through people are going to be pissed. Not to mention congress themselves failed to pass this into law twice in the past because their constituents were going apeshit.

[spurraider21]

If trump signs legal protections for daca recipients he won't be winning reelection. This past election was a referendum on immigration and if he doesn't follow through people are going to be pissed. Not to mention congress themselves failed to pass this into law twice in the past because their constituents were going apeshit.
908276308265795585

908278070611779585

[Axl Rose]

Oh I'm full aware of it, but if he goes through with anything stupid he might as well just not run again

[RandomGuy]

If trump signs legal protections for daca recipients he won't be winning reelection. This past election was a referendum on immigration and if he doesn't follow through people are going to be pissed. Not to mention congress themselves failed to pass this into law twice in the past because their constituents were going apeshit.

Trump won't be making it to a full term.

Odds makers have been steadily increasing the odds against that ever since the inauguration.

Impeachment or resignation before 2020: EVENS (50 per cent chance)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/donald-trump-latest-approval-rating-impeachment-odds/

"trump reelected" :lmao

[Chucho]

^^^He's doing it so he can win again. His base has shrunk, he wouldn't win re-election as is, he has to win over some of the Left's fanbase, which he can, by being moderate/bi-partisan. If he keeps doing what he's doing- refusing to stand on one side of the line, and the Left keeps going deeper into the toilet, I'll vote Trump again.

There's one thing Americans have shown this century- complacency with absolute shitty Presidents.

[RandomGuy]

^^^He's doing it so he can win again. His base has shrunk, he wouldn't win re-election as is, he has to win over some of the Left's fanbase, which he can, by being moderate/bi-partisan. If he keeps doing what he's doing- refusing to stand on one side of the line, and the Left keeps going deeper into the toilet, I'll vote Trump again.

There's one thing Americans have shown this century- complacency with absolute shitty Presidents.

Trump is never going to appeal to the left.

Doesn't matter what he does.

IF the right keeps going deeper in the toilet, they will never win the presidency again.

[Axl Rose]

Trump is never going to appeal to the left.

Doesn't matter what he does.

IF the right keeps going deeper in the toilet, they will never win the presidency again.


You guys said that same old tired shit before. If I didn't know better I wouldn't think you guys just got spanked in a historic election and have absolutely no power in congress. It's been the end of conservatism in America since bush's first term. Then you guys get the shit kicked out of you again. Mid terms are going to be a bloodbath because Hillary and all the rest still haven't learned anything.

[Axl Rose]

FWIW, kid fucking rock is about to take a democrats senate seat in Michigan. That's how bad of shape you are in with your same tired old shitty race baiting tactics.

[spurraider21]

You guys said that same old tired shit before. If I didn't know better I wouldn't think you guys just got spanked in a historic election and have absolutely no power in congress. It's been the end of conservatism in America since bush's first term. Then you guys get the shit kicked out of you again. Mid terms are going to be a bloodbath because Hillary and all the rest still haven't learned anything.
No power in congress yet pelosi/Schumer are striking more deals than ryan/McConnell lol

[Pavlov]

President Pelosi pushing her DACA agenda through Congress....

[Chris]

Trump is triangulating.

rl1QUuN55Ps

Pelosi and Schumer are bending over because they have nothing left to lose. :lol They showed their ass, and that's that.

[Axl Rose]

No power in congress yet pelosi/Schumer are striking more deals than ryan/McConnell lol

Because those two are cucks and the president is using schumer/pelosi as leverage against them. Neither side dems or Rs have enough political capital to conduct any meaningful offensive action unless facilitated through trump. Dems are impotent and trump knows it, but will use them as leverage to get what he wants from the republican establishment who are really the ones blocking his agenda at this point in time.

[Pavlov]

Trump is triangulating.

rl1QUuN55Ps

Pelosi and Schumer are bending over because they have nothing left to lose. :lol They showed their ass, and that's that.Bending over? They're getting everything they want without even negotiating. :lmao

[Axl Rose]

President Pelosi pushing her DACA agenda through Congress....
That's all people have to start saying to get trump to do the opposite. People said president Bannon and look what happened to him.

[Axl Rose]

Bending over? They're getting everything they want without even negotiating. :lmao
What have they gotten yet? Nothing has passed imo, just a dinner and some talks. WH immediately came out and counter signaled schumer/pelosi after the meeting.

[Pavlov]

That's all people have to start saying to get trump to do the opposite. People said president Bannon and look what happened to him.John Kelley's going to fire President Pelosi? :lmao

[Axl Rose]

John Kelley's going to fire President Pelosi? :lmao
Trump is in control, don't believe the hype

[Pavlov]

What have they gotten yet? Nothing has passed imo, just a dinner and some talks. WH immediately came out and counter signaled schumer/pelosi after the meeting.They already got the debt ceiling they wanted. DACA is actually popular outside the racist foreskin restoration community, so it will probably pass. The spin you'll hear is "virtual wall" and "symbolic" wall.

[Pavlov]

Trump is in control, don't believe the hypeKelly is babysitting him and took his toys away.

[Axl Rose]

They already got the debt ceiling they wanted. DACA is actually popular outside the racist foreskin restoration community, so it will probably pass. The spin you'll hear is "virtual wall" and "symbolic" wall.
Again, smart maneuvering by trump, he needs the money desperately for hurricane relief. He has to keep the economy running if he wants to stay in office long enough to accomplish anything. If he held out and shut down the government now he'd look like an asshole.

[Pavlov]

Again, smart maneuvering by trump, he needs the money desperately for hurricane relief. He has to keep the economy running if he wants to stay in office long enough to accomplish anything. If he held out and shut down the government now he'd look like an asshole.OK, you say giving the Democrats everything they want is smart. Can't argue with that.

[Axl Rose]

At this particular point in time, what he's doing is smart yes. Trump knows congress can't pass anything on daca. They couldn't the past two times. He is putting responsibility off on them and cucking the republican establishment. Nobody cares about a temporary budget bill that will soon require another extension.

[spurraider21]

Because those two are cucks and the president is using schumer/pelosi as leverage against them. Neither side dems or Rs have enough political capital to conduct any meaningful offensive action unless facilitated through trump. Dems are impotent and trump knows it, but will use them as leverage to get what he wants from the republican establishment who are really the ones blocking his agenda at this point in time.
It's easy to calculate exactly how flustered you are by seeing how many posts you can go without saying cuck. It's a verbal crutch when you've got nothing. Same with mormontacular

[Axl Rose]

It's easy to calculate exactly how flustered you are by seeing how many posts you can go without saying cuck. It's a verbal crutch when you've got nothing. Same with mormontacular
cuck is a powerful tool. Cuts deep and so fitting for certain folks.

[Pavlov]

lol powerful

[spurraider21]

cuck is a powerful tool. Cuts deep and so fitting for certain folks.Just as the word "like" is a powerful tool for valley girls, cuck is a powerful verbal crutch for people like you.

[clambake]

Just as the word "like" is a powerful tool for valley girls, cuck is a powerful verbal crutch for people like you.

lol

[Pavlov]

At this particular point in time, what he's doing is smart yes. Trump knows congress can't pass anything on daca. They couldn't the past two times. He is putting responsibility off on them and cucking the republican establishment. Nobody cares about a temporary budget bill that will soon require another extension.The Democrats do. Trump just gave them all the negotiating power when it does have to be extended.

So smart.

[Pavlov]

Just as the word "like" is a powerful tool for valley girls, cuck is a powerful verbal crutch for people like you.lol

[Axl Rose]

The Democrats do. Trump just gave them all the negotiating power when it does have to be extended.

So smart.

Because otherwise Paul open borders ryan was going to work with him to get his agenda accomplished. lol Wow.

[Axl Rose]

Just as the word "like" is a powerful tool for valley girls, cuck is a powerful verbal crutch for people like you.
Lol you are the one getting triggered by the word, of course you don't like me using it. What's the matter, is your wife a back alley girl or what.

[Pavlov]

Because otherwise Paul open borders ryan was going to work with him to get his agenda accomplished. lol Wow.What is Trump's agenda?