Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Chris]

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2Fa6%2F88%2F9d%2Fa6889d05e8d 9bde4a7b679d2de344dec.jpg&f=1
"Trump is a really bad man." -Brennan

[boutons_deux]

Judge to hold sealed hearing on whether Manafort breached plea deal

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/25/judge-to-hold-sealed-hearing-on-whether-manafort-breached-plea-deal.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1088868771702419457
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1088868777104687104

[Blake]

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2Fa6%2F88%2F9d%2Fa6889d05e8d 9bde4a7b679d2de344dec.jpg&f=1
"Trump is a really bad man." -Brennan

Chris is a really sad man

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1088868771702419457
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1088868777104687104

Yup. The biggy is gonna be the witness tampering charge, imo

[boutons_deux]

DOJ Indicates Its Willing To Reveal More About Mystery Mueller Grand Jury Case

In filings with the Supreme Court Friday afternoon,

the Justice Department offered to file publicly redacted court documents

it had previously filed under seal in a grand jury dispute linked to special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/doj-indicates-its-willing-to-reveal-more-about-mystery-mueller-grand-jury-case?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

Foreign company?

money launderer/Trash lender Deutsche Bank?

A Russian org?

[boutons_deux]

Intimidation bad when Mueller does it

When Trash/Tranny Julie Annie do it, it's silence.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU8gzjfLyec

[spurraider21]

:lmao so desperate to use "collusion" in any other context

[Pavlov]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU8gzjfLyec:lmao still trying to push your latest DarrinSpiracy.

Meanwhile, I didn't read the thread but the first tweet says enough.

1088835887344087041

[Winehole23]

Pro-transparency.

It was in the public interest to disclose the DNC's thumb on the scale in the primaries( Debbie Wasserman Schulz lost her job over it) and HRC's influence peddling through the Clinton Foundation.

If not, why not?

The NYT sure thought so. Do you disagree?

[boutons_deux]

Victim of WikiLeaks taunts Roger Stone about going to prison in WaPo op-ed

Before the leaks, Stone infamously said that it would soon be “Podesta’s time in the barrel,” referring to a vulgar joke.

Now Podesta said the same of Stone.

“Stone’s connection with and boasting about WikiLeaks during the campaign has always been fishy,” he writes.

“But thanks to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation, the truth is finally coming out.

Friday’s indictment alleges that a senior campaign official ‘was directed’ (and by whom?) to contact Stone about the WikiLeaks releases even after it was widely reported that they were a Russian hacking operation.”

Podesta mocked the state of the White House,

suggesting everyone there should be concerned about going to prison,

then mocked Stone’s flamboyant dandy style.

“The remaining West Wing staff and the president’s family must be looking over their shoulders,

wondering if in adopting the Trump style, they have traded a fancy West Wing office for a cell,” he writes.

“Stone’s well-documented sartorial tastes always favored wide pinstripes,

but I wonder whether prison garb will be up to Stone on Style standards.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/victim-wikileaks-taunts-roger-stone-going-prison-wapo-op-ed/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Huge Trove of Leaked Russian Documents Is Published by Transparency Advocates

A group of transparency advocates on Friday posted a mammoth collection of hacked and leaked documents from inside Russia,

a release widely viewed as a sort of symbolic counterstrike against Russia’s dissemination of hacked emails to influence the American presidential election in 2016.

Most of the material, which sheds light on Russia’s war in Ukraine

as well as ties between the Kremlin and the Russian Orthodox Church,

the business dealings of oligarchs and much more,

had been released in Russia, Ukraine and elsewhere, sometimes on obscure websites.

But the sheer volume of the material — 175 gigabytes — and the technical challenges of searching it meant that its full impact may not be felt for some time.

The volume is many times greater than the total known material stolen by Russian military intelligence from the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign nearly three years ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/world/europe/russian-documents-leaked-ddosecrets.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

[boutons_deux]

Trump regime months overdue on imposing additional sanctions on Russia over spy poisoning (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/24/1829259/-Trump-regime-months-overdue-on-imposing-additional-sanctions-on-Russia-over-spy-poisoning)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/567000/story_image/GettyImages-1000192956.jpg?1531838052

the Trump administration still has not imposed the additional sanctions, which are statutorily mandated

The State Department declined to tell MSNBC (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-admin-has-not-imposed-new-sanctions-russia-required-law-n962216) when they would finally comply with a law compelling them to take action over the poisoning last year of former Russian spy Sergei Skripal with Novichok.

"There is no deadline in the law for imposing sanctions (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-administration-hit-russia-new-sanctions-skripal-poisoning-n898856)," the State Department said, adding,

"We intend to proceed according to the statutory requirements." :lol

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1829259

[boutons_deux]

Roger Stone Lied. What Was He Hiding?

Could the Trump campaign really not have known that in dealing with WikiLeaks it was dealing with Russia?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/opinion/roger-stone-trump-mueller.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

[boutons_deux]

Expect Roger Stone to ‘fold like a cheap lawn chair’ under Mueller indictment: Former federal

Former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner (https://twitter.com/glennkirschner2) appeared on MSNBC with Chris Matthews on Friday night, and said that

he expects Stone’s attitude will soon change.

Kirschner said that Mueller’s methodology has been to

charge people with crimes that can be very easily proved to get them to cooperate and

provide information on the crimes that are harder to prove.

Stone is charged with threatening another witness in the case, which Kirschner said is “ridiculous.”

“I think Stone will probably fold like a cheap lawn chair,” Kirschner said.

“Come on board, and join team Mueller.

Because if he doesn’t—

when I read what’s in this 24-page indictment,

every word in there you know Bob Mueller can back up with three pieces of evidence, and

convicting Stone on this will be a cakewalk.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/expect-roger-stone-fold-like-cheap-lawn-chair-mueller-indictment-former-federal-prosecutor/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Spurminator]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU8gzjfLyec


:lmao so desperate to use "collusion" in any other context

:lmao Jesus Christ 😂

muh media tips

[boutons_deux]

Watch: Roger Stone complains about ‘censorship’ and says Trump should pardon Julian Assange in

Roger Stone (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/roger-stone-indictment-exposes-media-manipulated-questioning-clintons-health/) opined about being “not wealthy”

Cuomo pressed, asking Stone if he’d accept a pardon — but the indicted Trump adviser wouldn’t budge.

“I don’t expect to be convicted,” Stone said, “so I’m not going to address it. I don’t address hypothetical questions, as you know.”

asked Stone how he’s been getting his current “jam.”

“I believe in god,”

the president’s longtime associate said.

“I know what I have and have not done. I have a great wife and family that support me.”

“I have to raise $2 million because I’m not a wealthy man and the legal expenses so far have been very damaging and very devastating,

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/watch-roger-stone-complains-censorship-says-trump-pardon-julian-assange-unhinged-cnn-interview/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/watch-roger-stone-complains-censorship-says-trump-pardon-julian-assange-unhinged-cnn-interview/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

[Spurs Homer]

they may be one and the same

yup
probably

[Spurminator]

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1088842924006297600

[Winehole23]

Kalief Browder spent three years in Riker's for a backpack he didn't steal -- mostly in solitary confinement -- because no one could post the $3,000 bail.

He committed suicide two years after he was released.

His family just settled its civil right lawsuit against NY for 3.3 million dollars.

[DarrinS]

1088841156388179968
1088842924006297600


We need the No $500 dollar Bail for Soap Act


Because we really believe people are stealing mf bars of soap. :lmao

[Winehole23]

Mandatory sentencing has resulted in life sentences for de minimis crimes like stealing a bar of soap. Cash bail when applied to poor folks can turn a misdemeanor arrest into a life altering catastrophe.

It shouldn't be so. The person who can pay his way out for the same offense puts the lie to impartial justice. In a vendible system such as ours, those who cannot pay are at a great disadvantage. The fates of the rich and the poor, for the very same violations, are strikingly disparate.

[DarrinS]

Mandatory sentencing has resulted in life sentences for de minimis crimes like stealing a bar of soap. Cash bail when applied to poor folks can turn a misdemeanor arrest into a life altering catastrophe.

It shouldn't be so. The person who can pay his way out for the same offense puts the lie to impartial justice. In a vendible system such as ours, those who cannot pay are at a great disadvantage. The fates of the rich and the poor, for the very same violations, are strikingly disparate.



You can get bars of soap with food stamps

I don't think people are stealing soap. :lmao

[Winehole23]

Because you can't conceive it, then it must not be so.

In this way, dull-witted scoffing dispels the mundane suffering of the whole world.

[DarrinS]

Because you can't conceive it, then it must not be so.

In this way, dull-witted scoffing dispels the mundane suffering of the whole world.

Pay attention to what items at stores have security tags.

It ain't soap. :lmao

[Winehole23]

God you're dumb.

[Winehole23]

Stone is having fun with it. He's not scared of Mueller :lolHe should be. Mueller had all the tools of counter-intelligence at his disposal during the investigation. Stone faces up to 45 years in the hoosegow.

Gotta hurt for red team that Roger Stone was the first person indicted over HER EMAILS.

[Chris]

^mental masturbation

(key word:mental)

[Winehole23]

it's a direct reply to you.

your inability to carry a topical conversation is showing again.

[Winehole23]

Once again your truth is showingI agree with the author of what I'm about to post that Trump is a crook, a liar, a racist, a fascistic demagogue and a contemptible swine. But as Nina Illingworth points out in her series, the corporate media have done a strikingly shoddy job of reporting on Russiagate.

Worth a read in my opinion.


Editor’s note: this is Part Two in what I believe will be a five part series about corporate media corrections, retractions (https://www.newsweek.com/alt-right-trump-franken-mueller-twitter-810355) and walk-backs while covering the truly bizarre “Russiagate (http://www.ninaillingworth.com/the-giant-russia-theory/)” saga; you can find Part One here (http://www.ninaillingworth.com/2019/01/23/insidiocracy-russiagate-corporate-media-losing-my-religion-part-one/).



Before we get started however, I would like to emphatically state that this article is not intended to serve as any sort of defense on behalf of US swine emperor Donald Trump; a man who I have identified in previous articles as a fascist (http://www.ninaillingworth.com/2017/08/30/antifa-arpaio-and-donald-trumps-all-american-reichstag-fire/), a rapist (http://www.ninaillingworth.com/2017/12/13/the-darkness-of-donald-trump-is-a-sex-abuser/), acrook (http://www.ninaillingworth.com/2017/05/20/fantastic-lies-how-he-falls/), a warmonger (http://www.ninaillingworth.com/2017/03/17/observations-from-outside-the-death-star-how-many-ways-can-we-start-world-war-three/) and a liar (http://www.ninaillingworth.com/2017/05/11/baby-steps-a-paint-by-numbers-coverup-the-fall-of-james-comey/). This series is merely focusing on the disturbingly large number of misreported (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/the-washington-post-blacklist-story-is-shameful-and-disgusting-115978/), or in some cases outright fabricated (https://theintercept.com/2018/07/08/msnbc-does-not-merely-permit-fabrications-against-democratic-party-critics-it-encourages-and-rewards-them/), “Russia” stories in US corporate media over the past twenty-eight months; stories with terrifying national security and foreign policy implications, and released by professional media outlets that should be held to a higher standard (https://theintercept.com/2017/09/28/yet-another-major-russia-story-falls-apart-is-skepticism-permissible-yet/)of professional conduct than they seemingly have been (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-new-blacklist-202612/).
http://www.ninaillingworth.com/2019/01/25/insidiocracy-russiagate-corporate-media-losing-my-religion-part-two/

[Winehole23]

Roger Stone fucked himself by keeping the receipts:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/01/25/how-roger-the-rat-fucked-himself/

[Winehole23]

where is TSA?

1088903093197008896

[Winehole23]

What's fake?

Illingsworth doesn't' defend Trump for so much as a single sentence in either part of the article

There have been a ton of mistakes and retractions in the reporting. That's fact, not propaganda.

If you can't acknowledge it, you lack objectivity.

If you have factual issues with something she said, by all means, point it out and correct it.

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao so desperate to use "collusion" in any other context
:lol

[Winehole23]

Congrats you agree with hater and broken hater.You failed to lodge a single factual complaint. Pure name-calling, but that's what you do.

It's an intellectual weakness in every ideological quarter to accept reporting amenable to one's biases as factual and unimpeachable without any scrutiny whatsoever.

The fact that you're willing to overlook retractions puts the lie to your probity.

[Winehole23]

It's not a conspiracy to point out the trend of the mistakes. One would expect a random distribution of errors in bona fide reporting, but the trend isn't random.

I trust the investigation way more than the reporting, but for you the reporting is a convenient club to beat the President and his party, so you overlook its revealed flaws.

[Spurminator]

We need the No $500 dollar Bail for Soap Act

Because we really believe people are stealing mf bars of soap. :lmao

This is such a desperate and limp-dick attempt to troll I'm not even going to try to reason with you.

You're derp now. Congrats.

[pgardn]

“There is no circumstance whatsoever in which I will bear false witness against the President,” Stone reiterated.

Even at the expense of our Country.

A true patriot :tu

Cool.

[pgardn]

Because you can't conceive it, then it must not be so.

In this way, dull-witted scoffing dispels the mundane suffering of the whole world.

The big inheritance syndrome.
A sub category of, "I'm ok, you're ok"

[Winehole23]

I don't really see what transactional analysis has to do with it, but I think I see what you mean.

What's big inheritance syndrome?

[pgardn]

I don't really see what transactional analysis has to do with it, but I think I see what you mean.

What's big inheritance syndrome?

Silver Spoon kids don't always see the plight of others.
As long as they are OK, the rest of the world must be.
Trump said people will find a way during the shut down and they did so it's all cool. No problems.

[Winehole23]

Stone continues to talk to the press. His frankness about his conversations in 2016 with the President -- who was mentioned by name in Stone's indictment -- seems calculated to ruffle his feathers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-night-owl-calls-to-roger-stone-in-2016-draw-scrutiny-in-mueller-probe/2018/11/28/77d6174e-f332-11e8-80d0-f7e1948d55f4_story.html

[Winehole23]

Stone is facing 45 years in the clink. A bid for a pardon by seeming the loose cannon might look like his best bet.

[TSA]

After going into hiding when the latest Cohen fake news he pimped was slapped down by Mueller that little bitch djohn2oo8 tries to come back with proof of Trump/Russia collusion and is smacked down yet again

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/26/us/politics/mueller-conspiracy-trump-collusion.html#click=https://t.co/27wrHzKC5E

:lol djohn

[Winehole23]

it hasn't even been two years yet, TSA. ordinary criminal prosecutions often take as long or longer.

compared to Walsh and Starr the pace has been brisk: 90 indictments. both of those other investigations took longer than five years.

[Spurs Homer]

After going into hiding when the latest Cohen fake news he pimped was slapped down by Mueller that little bitch djohn2oo8 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) tries to come back with proof of Trump/Russia collusion and is smacked down yet again

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/26/us/politics/mueller-conspiracy-trump-collusion.html#click=https://t.co/27wrHzKC5E

:lol djohn



Mueller teasing you - like a master!

Traitors breathlessly awaiting the smoking gun!

Doesn't matter which crimes your hero traitors are indicted for - you will defend treason either way.

Your country is going to hold all the traitors accountable.

[TSA]

Mueller teasing you - like a master!

Traitors breathlessly awaiting the smoking gun!

Doesn't matter which crimes your hero traitors are indicted for - you will defend treason either way.

Your country is going to hold all the traitors accountable.

There is no treason to defend.

[Pavlov]

After going into hiding when the latest Cohen fake news he pimped was slapped down by Mueller that little bitch djohn2oo8 tries to come back with proof of Trump/Russia collusion and is smacked down yet again

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/26/us/politics/mueller-conspiracy-trump-collusion.html#click=https://t.co/27wrHzKC5E

:lol djohnHonestly would you expect Mueller to lead with conspiracy charges against Trump campaign officials as his first indictments?

[TSA]

it hasn't even been two years yet, TSA. ordinary criminal prosecutions often take as long or longer.

compared to Walsh and Starr the pace has been brisk: 90 indictments. both of those other investigations took longer than five years.


Can you point me to the indictment concerning Trump/Russia election collusion. Thanks.

[Winehole23]

lol Spurs Homer pining for the day when his online adversaries are prosecuted as traitors.

[Winehole23]

Can you point me to the indictment concerning Trump/Russia election collusion. Thanks.I never promised one.

[Pavlov]

It's become your bot response, TSA. You're somehow allowed to kick the can down he road every time muh Horowitz serves you a nothingburger or Stealth Huber actively does nothing but others can't think that Mueller might be methodically working up to more serious charges against Americans.

[TSA]

Honestly would you expect Mueller to lead with conspiracy charges against Trump campaign officials as his first indictments?


These aren’t the first indictments and yes if a prosecutor was building a conspiracy case you would expect a mention of conspiracy in the indictments in order to tie in to a larger conspiracy case.

It’s cute you’re still holding on to hope that there is.

[Winehole23]

Can you point me to the indictment concerning Trump/Russia election collusion. Thanks.CAn you explain why, if nothing untoward happened, so many people around Trump have been lying to Mueller?

Nothing to hide, no need to lie.

Flynn wasn't charged with collusion, but what he did as an agent of Turkey was almost surely a conspiracy against the US and may have been the charge Mueller dangled to flip him.

[Pavlov]

These aren’t the first indictments and yes if a prosecutor was building a conspiracy case you would expect a mention of conspiracy in the indictments in order to tie in to a larger conspiracy case.

It’s cute you’re still holding on to hope that there is.Really? You'd expect Mueller to explicitly mention conspiracies before indicting as a signal to everyone including the president and others?

lol TSA

[Pavlov]

It’s cute you’re still holding on to hope that there is.Are you still holding onto hope for Horowitz and Huber?

Yes or no.

[Winehole23]

demands answers, then ducks questions.

[boutons_deux]

I bet that when Mueller drops the hammer on Trash and others, he will have solid, irrefutable evidence in at least triplicate.

We will then see which so-called Americans, Repugs, patriots betray the USA in continuing to support Trash and his mafiya.

[FrostKing]

^ haha

Muh russia

[Spurs Homer]

These aren’t the first indictments and yes if a prosecutor was building a conspiracy case you would expect a mention of conspiracy in the indictments in order to tie in to a larger conspiracy case.

It’s cute you’re still holding on to hope that there is.

He is building a criminal case - which was necessary when the counter-intelligence investigation revealed criminality.

The truth is being followed in textbook fashion.

Russia attacked the USA ELECTIONS.The intel community unanimously concluded this as a fact.
A fact that any American (including Trump and Trump team) who disputes it - makes them less than patriotic.
If you deny that Russia attacked the USA elections - you have questionable motives and are defending the attackers - why?
For a con man?
Trump denies this - and even takes Russia's side. Any other president that would have taken another country's side after having been attacked would have been immediately impeached and removed -

yet all he has is defenders who defend this treason. Why?
What is your reason TSA-Whinehole-Chris -

what is your reason for defending a president who has denied what his own intelligence experts have concluded and actually taken the enemy/attackers side in this attack?

Give me a reason why you continue to defend a president who has taken the side of an enemy who has attacked the USA?

Everything else you are doing stems from this and you go even further in your defense of his criminality - but for now - answer this simple question above.

Or hide.

[djohn2oo8]

After going into hiding when the latest Cohen fake news he pimped was slapped down by Mueller that little bitch djohn2oo8 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) tries to come back with proof of Trump/Russia collusion and is smacked down yet again

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/26/us/politics/mueller-conspiracy-trump-collusion.html#click=https://t.co/27wrHzKC5E

:lol djohn
You said Stone wasn’t going to be indicted.

[djohn2oo8]

Charge him for what?
You tell me

[Winehole23]

^ haha

Muh russiain truth, muh Turkey cooked Flynn's goose.

[Winehole23]

Ok, good to know.

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[djohn2oo8]

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[Spurs Homer]

1089269738495184896

Traitors don't really care about facts, truth or the crimes that were committed.

Mueller can be 1000% correct and go by the book and follow the law exactly as written but these traitors are looking for ANYTHING to defend their cult criminal.

It is really no use - they will defend any crime by this criminal.

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao Jesus Trump already with the “Stone was a coffee boy” excuse

[Winehole23]

His oldest political friend. The guy who pushed him forward as a candidate for president every four years until people stopped laughing.

Demands loyalty, turns his back at the first sign of adversity.

I wonder what DJT will say about his son when it's his turn.

[boutons_deux]

:lmao Jesus Trump already with the “Stone was a coffee boy” excuse

‘Roger Stone Didn’t Even Work for Me Anywhere Near the Election!’


https://www.mediaite.com/donald-trump/trump-roger-stone-didnt-even-work-for-me-anywhere-near-the-election/

[boutons_deux]

“I COULD SEE ROGER FLIPPING PRETTY QUICKLY”:

ROGER STONE, POLITICAL TRICKSTER, FACES HIS TIME IN THE BARREL

He professes undying loyalty. But “Stone knows Donald isn’t loyal. He calls him ‘Mr. Ingratitude.’”

Stone’s arrest on seven criminal counts—including obstruction, lying to Congress, and witness tampering—has nevertheless sent ripples of fear through Trumpworld.

“Trump is very worried,” a longtime Trump confidante told me. Chief among Trump’s fear is

the nightmare scenario that Stone flips to avoid years in federal prison and

cooperates with Robert Mueller.

“I could see Roger flipping pretty quickly,” a Republican close to Trump said.

the speculation that Stone could turn on his longtime client is supported by several factors.

The two met in 1979 when Stone was living at Roy Cohn’s Manhattan town house while working as a young staffer on Ronald Reagan’s presidential campaign, and it has rankled Trump that Stone is regarded as his political brain (Stone has claimed (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/01/16/the_wall_stones_campaign_slogan_that_begot_the_shu tdown_139185.html) he created the “build the wall” slogan).

Stoking Trumpworld’s fear is the fact that Stone is as predictable as an unguided missile.

Stone has cast himself as a victim of an overzealous prosecutor.

His reckless goading of Mueller is the action of a man who seems like he wants to go to jail. “It’s good for his brand,”

“It’s pathetic. Why didn’t he just tell the truth?” former Trump adviser and Stone protégé Sam Nunberg told me.

But if given the chance to provide a John Dean moment that would ensure his place in the history books,

it’s also possible Stone could recast himself as the hero of the Russia probe—while lightening his sentence.

some Trump allies fear that Stone’s arrest presages more indictments by the special counsel.

The president’s son, Don Jr., has told people he’s worried he could be next,

“Underestimating Mueller is a failed tack,”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/roger-stone-faces-his-time-in-the-barrel?mbid=nl_hps_5c4b9ee8ba532c6650dedf59&CNDID=43758549&utm_source=nl&utm_medium=email&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=vyf_hive_news_20190125_PS%20(1)&bxid=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&spMailingID=15023518&spUserID=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&spJobID=1562130388&spReportId=MTU2MjEzMDM4OAS2

[Spurs Homer]

He is building a criminal case - which was necessary when the counter-intelligence investigation revealed criminality.

The truth is being followed in textbook fashion.

Russia attacked the USA ELECTIONS.The intel community unanimously concluded this as a fact.
A fact that any American (including Trump and Trump team) who disputes it - makes them less than patriotic.
If you deny that Russia attacked the USA elections - you have questionable motives and are defending the attackers - why?
For a con man?
Trump denies this - and even takes Russia's side. Any other president that would have taken another country's side after having been attacked would have been immediately impeached and removed -

yet all he has is defenders who defend this treason. Why?
What is your reason TSA-Whinehole-Chris -

what is your reason for defending a president who has denied what his own intelligence experts have concluded and actually taken the enemy/attackers side in this attack?

Give me a reason why you continue to defend a president who has taken the side of an enemy who has attacked the USA?

Everything else you are doing stems from this and you go even further in your defense of his criminality - but for now - answer this simple question above.

Or hide.

[Winehole23]

So, you got nothing.

[Spurs Homer]

So, you got nothing.

Want to take a stab at answering my question to you and trump defenders ^ above?

I see no one has attempted - all of you hide from that question.

[Winehole23]

Easy, I don't defend Trump, I think the investigation against him and his campaign is proper, let the chips fall where they may.

[Winehole23]

Have you considered that people feel free to avoid your questions because you overegg the custard and abuse them if they merely disagree with something you've said?

If you act like a jerk and have overblown takes, that will happen.

[Winehole23]

Me not agreeing with you right down the line is not treason against the USA.

Goes to maturity and conviviality. If you insult people and demonize them for having a different opinion, you don't get to call them cowards afterward for ducking you -- it's you they don't like. Your discourtesy and inability to contain your feelings put them off.

Nobody owes you an answer.

[djohn2oo8]

His oldest political friend. The guy who pushed him forward as a candidate for president every four years until people stopped laughing.

Demands loyalty, turns his back at the first sign of adversity.

I wonder what DJT will say about his son when it's his turn.
That he barely knows JR. is what he will say

[pgardn]

He is building a criminal case - which was necessary when the counter-intelligence investigation revealed criminality.

The truth is being followed in textbook fashion.

Russia attacked the USA ELECTIONS.The intel community unanimously concluded this as a fact.
A fact that any American (including Trump and Trump team) who disputes it - makes them less than patriotic.
If you deny that Russia attacked the USA elections - you have questionable motives and are defending the attackers - why?
For a con man?
Trump denies this - and even takes Russia's side. Any other president that would have taken another country's side after having been attacked would have been immediately impeached and removed -

yet all he has is defenders who defend this treason. Why?
What is your reason TSA-Whinehole-Chris -

what is your reason for defending a president who has denied what his own intelligence experts have concluded and actually taken the enemy/attackers side in this attack?

Give me a reason why you continue to defend a president who has taken the side of an enemy who has attacked the USA?

Everything else you are doing stems from this and you go even further in your defense of his criminality - but for now - answer this simple question above.

Or hide.

No one in their right mind denies that Russians screwed with our elections.

Trump has denied it then said it was true then denied and then agreed with intelligence... So you are inaccurate. We all know he wishes it was not true because he thinks it takes away from his election victory. He has basically said as much.
And he signed off on sanctions. Why? He's on the verge of getting caught, the Russians could easily out him now?

Trump has gone for the extended super man effort that he can make a deal with anyone. Numerous presidents have come in with ambitions of making life with Russia more stable. Bush " looked into Putin's soul and said we can work with him" Look at what he does with N. Korea. An perfectly intransigent leadership but Trump can make a deal.

So you have concluded the president worked directly with Russia on a disinformation campaign that led to his victory.

Thats two giant leaps.

Keep going TSA.

[Spurs Homer]

He has denied it then said it was true then denied and then agreed with intelligence... So your are inaccurate. We all know he wishes it was not true because he thinks it takes away from his election victory. He has basically said as much.

Trump has gone for the extended super man effort that he can make a deal with anyone. Numerous presidents have come in with ambitions of making life with Russia more stable. Bush " looked into Putin's soul and said we can work with him" Look at what he does with N. Korea. An perfectly intransigent leadership but Trump can make a deal.

So you have concluded the president worked directly with Russia on a disinformation campaign that led to his victory.

Thats two giant leaps.

Keep going TSA.

1) It is a fact that Russia attacked our elections in order to help Trump and hurt HRC - not a theory, not a witch hunt not a disgrace - none of those. It is a fact.

2) Trump has NEVER unequivocally stated this - he has hemmed hawed, said it could be China or a 400lb guy - or others - he has NEVER accepted this fact. He has aided and abetted this enemy attacker by calling it a witch hunt, by springing his GOP henchmen against the FBI, USA Intel and has gotten on a world stage and sided officially with Putin and Russia. He even said "I think it is the stupidity of the USA which has caused this problem with Russia!"

3) After - FACT #1 and Fact #2 above - people I have pointed out here - Whinehole/TSA/Qhris - are still defending the actions of this president - after knowing these facts.


Why?

[Spurs Homer]

Have you considered that people feel free to avoid your questions because you overegg the custard and abuse them if they merely disagree with something you've said?

If you act like a jerk and have overblown takes, that will happen.


It is a very simple question;

It is a FACT that Russia attacked our elections in order to help Trump - hurt HRC.
It is a FACT that Trump has sided with Russia and spoken out against his own USA INTEL -on a world stage.

It is a FACT- that people like you, hater,qhris,tsa continue to defend a president who has sided with the enemy after the FACTS have been established -


Why do you continue to defend a president who has sided with the enemy and gone against his own intel and his own DOJ?

Why?

[djohn2oo8]

No one in their right mind denies that Russians screwed with our elections.

Trump has denied it then said it was true then denied and then agreed with intelligence... So your are inaccurate. We all know he wishes it was not true because he thinks it takes away from his election victory. He has basically said as much.
And he signed off on sanctions. Why? He's on the verge of getting caught, the Russians could easily out him now?

Trump has gone for the extended super man effort that he can make a deal with anyone. Numerous presidents have come in with ambitions of making life with Russia more stable. Bush " looked into Putin's soul and said we can work with him" Look at what he does with N. Korea. An perfectly intransigent leadership but Trump can make a deal.

So you have concluded the president worked directly with Russia on a disinformation campaign that led to his victory.

Thats two giant leaps.

Keep going TSA.
Firstly. Trump AND his campaign were warned by the FBI about Russian interference before the election. Warned. Then he stood in front of the nation multiple times denying it, and trashing the intelligence community even though he was pursuing a Moscow Tower project and said he had no deals in Russia. So as Russia was actively attacking the US Trump stood there and denied it saying he believed Putin and not our IC.

Okay so let’s go further. Trump denied point blank of anyone on his team having any ties or communications with the Russians during the campaign. As we know that was a lie, why lie about that?

Thirdly, Trump stood there and pleaded with Russia to find Hillary’s emails. Why?

Fourth. Trump stated he loved Wikileaks, a now designated hostile foreign service. Why?

Last and most important. Trump and his campaign were repeating IDENTICAL messages as Wikileaks. Collusion in the pudding but moreso Conspiracy.

[Winehole23]

Spurs Homer:

You keep saying I have defended Trump. I am unaware of having done so.

Can you point out some particular post where you think this happened?

[pgardn]

1) It is a fact that Russia attacked our elections in order to help Trump and hurt HRC - not a theory, not a witch hunt not a disgrace - none of those. It is a fact.

2) Trump has NEVER unequivocally stated this - he has hemmed hawed, said it could be China or a 400lb guy - or others - he has NEVER accepted this fact. He has aided and abetted this enemy attacker by calling it a witch hunt, by springing his GOP henchmen against the FBI, USA Intel and has gotten on a world stage and sided officially with Putin and Russia. He even said "I think it is the stupidity of the USA which has caused this problem with Russia!"

3) After - FACT #1 and Fact #2 above - people I have pointed out here - Whinehole/TSA/Qhris - are still defending the actions of this president - after knowing these facts.


Why?

No one who has looked at the evidence with an open mind has denied #1 so just stop with that diversion.

2) He has gone back and forth on this just like he does everything else. And again he thinks he is the super salesman so he can work with anyone. And again, the most valid reason in his mind imo is his total disgrace of thinking he won an election due to outside interference. He also invented 2 or 3 million illegal votes so it makes perfect sense.

Im glad you are not working this inquiry.

What is indeed sketchy is the ties to so many foreign actors his staff had relationships with. Mueller continues to unearth them so give it time and you might turn out to be correct. However my bet is his biggest fear is his family. Not himself because he actually understands how much more it's gonna take to bring him down if he indeed understood the actions were illegal and ordered them anyway.

[Spurs Homer]

SPUR (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8695) Homer:

You keep saying I have defended Trump. I am unaware of having done so.

Can you point out some particular post where you think this happened?

Every time that an indictment or an article comes out and sheds more unfavorable light on Trump and his team -

you are one of the posters who immediately post apologist takes on this treasonous behavior and look for reasons to minimize those treasonous actions.
Yes, it is my impression that you are a huge Trump apologist who tries to sit on the middle of the fence and play both sides.

Yes - you always state that you are being fair and not taking sides and are "open" - but you are only a little bit LESS of a TSA/QHRIS/HATER

At first I thought you were weighing evidence fairly and just non-committal but since you have absolutely showed all signs of a Trump supporter who denies he is a trump supporter - just like Calf Tats -

he always denies being a trump supporter and then supports/defends trump 100% of the time. You are on that same level.

That is my opinion 100%. Based on the writings in your posts.

[Winehole23]

So, no examples?

If I do it every time it should be fairly easy to particularize your complaint.

[pgardn]

Every time that an indictment or an article comes out and sheds more unfavorable light on Trump and his team -

you are one of the posters who immediately post apologist takes on this treasonous behavior and look for reasons to minimize those treasonous actions.
Yes, it is my impression that you are a huge Trump apologist who tries to sit on the middle of the fence and play both sides.

Yes - you always state that you are being fair and not taking sides and are "open" - but you are only a little bit LESS of a TSA/QHRIS/HATER

At first I thought you were weighing evidence fairly and just non-committal but since you have absolutely showed all signs of a Trump supporter who denies he is a trump supporter - just like Calf Tats -

he always denies being a trump supporter and then supports/defends trump 100% of the time. You are on that same level.

That is my opinion 100%. Based on the writings in your posts.

Because Winehole actually reads a variety of commentary about the subject and understands it.
You need to go back and read what it's going to take legally to take him down in a court of law after a possible impeachment. Or even indicting a sitting president.

[Winehole23]

Spurs Homer: I answered your questions, will you answer mine?

[Spurs Homer]

No one who has looked at the evidence with an open mind has denied #1 so just stop with that diversion.

2) He has gone back and forth on this just like he does everything else. And again he thinks he is the super salesman so he can work with anyone. And again, the most valid reason in his mind imo is his total disgrace of thinking he won an election due to outside interference. He also invented 2 or 3 million illegal votes so it makes perfect sense.

Im glad you are not working this inquiry.

What is indeed sketchy is the ties to so many foreign actors his staff had relationships with. Mueller continues to unearth them so give it time and you might turn out to be correct. However my bet is his biggest fear is his family. Not himself because he actually understands how much more it's gonna take to bring him down if he indeed understood the actions were illegal and ordered them anyway.


Please please please show me ONE article - just one tweet - anything -

that Trump or Sarah Slanders or any other cult staff member - who has stated to the American public:

"yes, we agree that Russia attacked our elections and helped Trump and hurt Hillary"


Just show me that. Yet - it is a fact - and it has always been SPUN to avoid admitting this fact. As an American does this not strike you as offensive?


You state "he has gone back and forth" on this


There you go.

WHY - would any American - be ok with this? Why would any American be ok with an American president - after an enemy attack - go back and forth on where his loyalty is?

You are minimizing this by creating and/or accepting this weak excuse that he is concerned about his election being legitimate. If this was Obama - you would never allow for this defense. No one would. A white president can commit crimes and the response is

"let's try to analyze him and see why he could have possibly mistaken his crime for something he didn't mean to do?"

Bullfuckingshit.

[Spurs Homer]

So, no examples?

If I do it every time it should be fairly easy to particularize your complaint.

I'll let the forum people judge for themselves - your posting apologist takes are always available -

will I go do a bunch of legwork to defend you?


:lol:lol

Yeah - right -

[Winehole23]

I'm asking you to do the legwork to back up your own assertions.

Each can decide for himself what your refusal to do so means.

[boutons_deux]

This article is a great synopsis of Trash and his mafiya's game

Trash and ...

Trump advisers lied over and over again, Mueller says.

The question is, why?

They lied to the public for months before Donald Trump was elected — and then repeatedly after he took office.

They lied to Congress as lawmakers sought to investigate Russia’s attack on American democracy in 2016.

And they lied to the FBI, even when they knew lying was a crime.

In indictments and plea agreements unveiled over the last 20 months,

special counsel Robert S.

Mueller III has shown over and over again that some of President Trump’s closest friends and advisers have lied about Russia and related issues.

On Friday, Mueller laid out a new allegation: that longtime Trump confidant Roger Stone lied to Congress and obstructed its probe of Russia’s interference in the 2016 campaign.

Trump and his associates have dismissed the serial deception as a sideshow that has little to do with the central question of the Mueller investigation:

whether his campaign engaged in a criminal conspiracy with Russia.

eg Rudolph W. Giuliani scoffed, “Another false-statement case? God almighty.”

While Mueller has not accused any American of criminally coordinating with Russia,

the lies meticulously unspooled (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/robert-mueller-special-counsel-indictments-timeline/?utm_term=.c3e2871bfbdc) by his prosecutors over 20 months have not been mere quibbles.

various falsehoods by Trump advisers that masked efforts by people in his orbit to develop inroads with Russia and leverage that country’s hacking of Democratic emails.

Trump’s

former campaign chairman (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-says-manafort-told-discernible-lies-including-about-contacts-with-employee-alleged-to-have-russian-intelligence-ties/2018/12/07/3c9c6172-f99c-11e8-863c-9e2f864d47e7_story.html?utm_term=.659a8aed2397),

deputy campaign manager (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/rick-gates--and-the-lies-hes-admitted-telling--to-take-center-stage-at-manafort-trial/2018/08/05/71cbc686-975d-11e8-a679-b09212fb69c2_story.html?utm_term=.c30403dfaac3),

former national security adviser (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michael-flynn-charged-with-making-false-statement-to-the-fbi/2017/12/01/e03a6c48-d6a2-11e7-9461-ba77d604373d_story.html?utm_term=.5b17de50b1e7),

personal lawyer (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michael-cohen-trumps-former-lawyer-pleads-guilty-to-lying-to-congress/2018/11/29/5fac986a-f3e0-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html?utm_term=.318965d0ad70) and a

campaign foreign policy adviser (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/former-trump-adviser-george-papadopoulos-sentenced-to-14-days-in-plea-deal-with-mueller-probe/2018/09/07/bef367a2-b210-11e8-aed9-001309990777_story.html?utm_term=.8541db297139)

have all been accused of lying to investigators exploring Russia activity.

Stone, prosecutors said he lied to Congress about his efforts to learn about WikiLeaks’s plans in 2016 as the group was publishing Democratic emails allegedly stolen by Russian operatives.

Legal experts noted that the alleged lies are significant in their own right.

“Time and time again, elected officials and government officials have exhibited

a belief they simply can say what they want in a high-profile investigation, and do so with impunity,”

prosecutors lay out efforts by both Stone and Trump campaign officials to learn more about what WikiLeaks had in its cache in the summer of 2016 —

actions that occurred after Russia had been fingered as a likely culprit behind the theft of the Democratic Party emails that June.

the substance of the lies and alleged false statements documented by Mueller paint a broad picture with serious implications.

“In my view, those lies — what was lied about and under what condition the lies were told —

contribute to a counterintelligence pattern that has begun to emerge pointing

to senior members of the Trump team being involved with the Russians,

“We’ve got to be looking beyond who gets a parking ticket or even a few years in prison,” he said.

“What about the bigger picture? This was Russia, attacking the United States.”

The deception by Trump advisers that has led to guilty pleas so far does have a common throughline:

Much of it centers on their interactions (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/russians-interacted-with-at-least-14-trump-associates-during-the-campaign-and-transition/2018/12/09/71773192-fb13-11e8-8c9a-860ce2a8148f_story.html?utm_term=.19086a779163) about Russia.

“at the end of the day, it looks like people are making independent, individual choices that are landing them in hot water.

I think it’s the kind of thing that the Mueller probe doesn’t want to ignore . . . but the indictments themselves aren’t moving the case forward.” ( :lol so far )

people around Trump lied to investigators because

they were trying to make sure their version of events lined up with lies the president was telling to the American people.

“They all conspired,” he said, “against themselves.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-advisers-lied-over-and-over-again-mueller-says-the-question-is-why/2019/01/26/e72454f6-20c5-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.b45572ea4894&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

All LIES about their connections, their interactions with Russia, over and over and over.

[pgardn]

Please please please show me ONE article - just one tweet - anything -

that Trump or Sarah Slanders or any other cult staff member - who has stated to the American public:

"yes, we agree that Russia attacked our elections and helped Trump and hurt Hillary"


Just show me that. Yet - it is a fact - and it has always been SPUN to avoid admitting this fact. As an American does this not strike you as offensive?


You state "he has gone back and forth" on this


There you go.

WHY - would any American - be ok with this? Why would any American be ok with an American president - after an enemy attack - go back and forth on where his loyalty is?

You are minimizing this by creating and/or accepting this weak excuse that he is concerned about his election being legitimate. If this was Obama - you would never allow for this defense. No one would. A white president can commit crimes and the response is

"let's try to analyze him and see why he could have possibly mistaken his crime for something he didn't mean to do?"

Bullfuckingshit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/trumps-press-conference-highlights-russia.html

Do you not fckn read?

Why would any American be fine with a lying waffling president?
Shit if I know. That's not the point you are trying to prove.
Stop playing stupid games.

Imo his loyalty is to himself and 1/3 of the voting public that love him. Although now that he caved on a stupid wall they have to forgive him

Almost the entire fucking congress knows this as well you idiot. It's the few idiot deep staters you concentrate on.
You read too much of Trumpy news by our local Trumpettes.
You can look up more yourself.

You don't fckn understand this president is testing the boundaries of everything. Most of us see this. But you don't just bypass rules to get rid of him ya fckn hair trigger for brains. Obama could have done exactly the same thing and the same laws apply about actually removing him from office. What do you not understand about the difficulty of removing a sitting president?

[pgardn]

Firstly. Trump AND his campaign were warned by the FBI about Russian interference before the election. Warned. Then he stood in front of the nation multiple times denying it, and trashing the intelligence community even though he was pursuing a Moscow Tower project and said he had no deals in Russia. So as Russia was actively attacking the US Trump stood there and denied it saying he believed Putin and not our IC.

Okay so let’s go further. Trump denied point blank of anyone on his team having any ties or communications with the Russians during the campaign. As we know that was a lie, why lie about that?

Thirdly, Trump stood there and pleaded with Russia to find Hillary’s emails. Why?

Fourth. Trump stated he loved Wikileaks, a now designated hostile foreign service. Why?

Last and most important. Trump and his campaign were repeating IDENTICAL messages as Wikileaks. Collusion in the pudding but moreso Conspiracy.

You still have to prove at the time he allegely ordered his campaign to use Russian intelligence to interfere with our elections. The optics are completely horrible but that wont do it in a court. I do not believe he directly ordered his campaign to use the Russian government to disrupt the elections knowing that it was illegal. But his family... thats where you guys will have to get your jollies imo.

[Winehole23]

Be careful, pgardn. You're about to get called a traitor.

[pgardn]

Be careful, pgardn. You're about to get called a traitor.

Get Homer together with Chris and Spurter and there would be great understanding between them on blind extremism.

[boutons_deux]

Adam Schiff Is About To Get Donald Trump Jr. Indicted By Mueller

House Intelligence Committee chair, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) is going to turn Donald Trump Jr’s testimony transcript over to Mueller for investigation of perjury.

SCHIFF:

Well, I’d like the special counsel to have access to Don Jr.’s testimony and determine whether it is evidence of — of false statements.

I think and I greatly appreciate the seriousness with which the special counsel takes lying to Congress.

So I’ll let Bob Mueller be the judge of that.

But one of the first acts, if not the first act, of our committee will be to

send all of these transcripts of all the witnesses to Bob Mueller so that

he can consider whether additional perjury charges are warranted.
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/27/adam-schiff-is-about-to-get-donald-trump-jr-indicted-by-mueller.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[djohn2oo8]

You still have to prove at the time he allegely ordered his campaign to use Russian intelligence to interfere with our elections. The optics are completely horrible but that wont do it in a court. I do not believe he directly ordered his campaign to use the Russian government to disrupt the elections knowing that it was illegal. But his family... thats where you guys will have to get your jollies imo.
This assertion is incorrect. The main thing to prove is whether he knew about it or not. Because then that becomes a coverup.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Life Gets Worse As Roger Stone Won’t Rule Out Flipping On Him


STEPHANOPOULOS: You say you won’t bear false witness against President Trump,

are you prepared to tell the truth about your dealings with him to the Special Counsel,

the truth about your dealings with the campaign,

any chance you’ll cooperate with Special Counsel Robert Mueller if he asks?STONE:

You know, that’s a question I would have to – I have to determine after my attorneys have some discussion.

If there’s wrongdoing by other people in the campaign that I know about, :lol

which I know of none, :lol

but if there is I would certainly testify honestly.

I’d also testify honestly about any other matter, including any communications with the president.

It’s true that we spoke on the phone, but those communications are political in nature, they’re benign, and there is –

there is certainly no conspiracy with Russia.

The president’s right, there is no Russia collusion.

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/27/trumps-life-gets-worse-as-roger-stone-wont-rule-out-flipping-on-him.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Stone LIES :lol

[Winehole23]

what are your thoughts about the republicans refusing to appoint members to the intelligence committee preventing them from meeting?Already gave it elsewhere, but I don't mind repeating.

The GOP would rather shirk oversight duties than show up Trump. They're too chickenshit to fight the dems in committee, so they refuse to play at all.

Apparently the House GOP would rather impair the legislative branch than abide the agenda of a Democratic majority.

It's cowardly, irresponsible and contemptuous of the will of the voters.

[Winehole23]

The GOP used the HPSCI as a soapbox to pillory the FBI and the investigation against the Trump campaign.

Now that the shoe's on the other foot, they want the soapbox removed.

[DarrinS]

:lmao

1089403108759764994

[pgardn]

This assertion is incorrect. The main thing to prove is whether he knew about it or not. Because then that becomes a coverup.

Nope.

If he did not know it was illegal there is no crime in his mind to coverup.

[Spurs Homer]

This article is a great synopsis of Trash and his mafiya's game

Trash and ...

Trump advisers lied over and over again, Mueller says.

The question is, why?

They lied to the public for months before Donald Trump was elected — and then repeatedly after he took office.

They lied to Congress as lawmakers sought to investigate Russia’s attack on American democracy in 2016.

And they lied to the FBI, even when they knew lying was a crime.

In indictments and plea agreements unveiled over the last 20 months,

special counsel Robert S.

Mueller III has shown over and over again that some of President Trump’s closest friends and advisers have lied about Russia and related issues.

On Friday, Mueller laid out a new allegation: that longtime Trump confidant Roger Stone lied to Congress and obstructed its probe of Russia’s interference in the 2016 campaign.

Trump and his associates have dismissed the serial deception as a sideshow that has little to do with the central question of the Mueller investigation:

whether his campaign engaged in a criminal conspiracy with Russia.

eg Rudolph W. Giuliani scoffed, “Another false-statement case? God almighty.”

While Mueller has not accused any American of criminally coordinating with Russia,

the lies meticulously unspooled (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/robert-mueller-special-counsel-indictments-timeline/?utm_term=.c3e2871bfbdc) by his prosecutors over 20 months have not been mere quibbles.

various falsehoods by Trump advisers that masked efforts by people in his orbit to develop inroads with Russia and leverage that country’s hacking of Democratic emails.

Trump’s

former campaign chairman (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-says-manafort-told-discernible-lies-including-about-contacts-with-employee-alleged-to-have-russian-intelligence-ties/2018/12/07/3c9c6172-f99c-11e8-863c-9e2f864d47e7_story.html?utm_term=.659a8aed2397),

deputy campaign manager (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/rick-gates--and-the-lies-hes-admitted-telling--to-take-center-stage-at-manafort-trial/2018/08/05/71cbc686-975d-11e8-a679-b09212fb69c2_story.html?utm_term=.c30403dfaac3),

former national security adviser (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michael-flynn-charged-with-making-false-statement-to-the-fbi/2017/12/01/e03a6c48-d6a2-11e7-9461-ba77d604373d_story.html?utm_term=.5b17de50b1e7),

personal lawyer (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michael-cohen-trumps-former-lawyer-pleads-guilty-to-lying-to-congress/2018/11/29/5fac986a-f3e0-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html?utm_term=.318965d0ad70) and a

campaign foreign policy adviser (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/former-trump-adviser-george-papadopoulos-sentenced-to-14-days-in-plea-deal-with-mueller-probe/2018/09/07/bef367a2-b210-11e8-aed9-001309990777_story.html?utm_term=.8541db297139)

have all been accused of lying to investigators exploring Russia activity.

Stone, prosecutors said he lied to Congress about his efforts to learn about WikiLeaks’s plans in 2016 as the group was publishing Democratic emails allegedly stolen by Russian operatives.

Legal experts noted that the alleged lies are significant in their own right.

“Time and time again, elected officials and government officials have exhibited

a belief they simply can say what they want in a high-profile investigation, and do so with impunity,”

prosecutors lay out efforts by both Stone and Trump campaign officials to learn more about what WikiLeaks had in its cache in the summer of 2016 —

actions that occurred after Russia had been fingered as a likely culprit behind the theft of the Democratic Party emails that June.

the substance of the lies and alleged false statements documented by Mueller paint a broad picture with serious implications.

“In my view, those lies — what was lied about and under what condition the lies were told —

contribute to a counterintelligence pattern that has begun to emerge pointing

to senior members of the Trump team being involved with the Russians,

“We’ve got to be looking beyond who gets a parking ticket or even a few years in prison,” he said.

“What about the bigger picture? This was Russia, attacking the United States.”

The deception by Trump advisers that has led to guilty pleas so far does have a common throughline:

Much of it centers on their interactions (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/russians-interacted-with-at-least-14-trump-associates-during-the-campaign-and-transition/2018/12/09/71773192-fb13-11e8-8c9a-860ce2a8148f_story.html?utm_term=.19086a779163) about Russia.

“at the end of the day, it looks like people are making independent, individual choices that are landing them in hot water.

I think it’s the kind of thing that the Mueller probe doesn’t want to ignore . . . but the indictments themselves aren’t moving the case forward.” ( :lol so far )

people around Trump lied to investigators because

they were trying to make sure their version of events lined up with lies the president was telling to the American people.

“They all conspired,” he said, “against themselves.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-advisers-lied-over-and-over-again-mueller-says-the-question-is-why/2019/01/26/e72454f6-20c5-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.b45572ea4894&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

All LIES about their connections, their interactions with Russia, over and over and over.




Eventually - even the majority of the American people will notice one huge thing happen right before their very eyes:

The TACTICS that Trump team and the GOP and their supporters all have in common?

ARE RUSSIAN TACTICS - of never admitting the truth, always denying and deflecting and always lying more with impunity - no matter what developments, what evidence - what proof.

Russia taught these thugs these tactics and this is what they and 33% of the population has become.
Just another Russia propaganda division.

[boutons_deux]

Nope.

If he did not know it was illegal there is no crime in his mind to coverup.

If he thought there were no crime, why did he LIE and COVERUP?

My guess is that he is too self-absorbed, stupid, ignorant, naive to know the law, and that his shitty The Best People informed him of Wikileaks Dem info, and he said "sure, go ahead let's use it".

We also have DOC that DJTJr would have "loved" to have dirt on Hillary from a Russian agent, about which Trash dictated a LIE about "adoption". Why did he lie?

If Trash were honest and good faith, early on he could have said "Sorry, I'm too fucking stupid to be President, didn't know colluding with Russians was illegal to throw the Pres election to me. Please forgive me"

Trash knew WTF was going on, knew it was illegal, knew in secret conversations with BFF Pootin what anti-Hillary, anti-America adversary Pootin wanted him to do.

Trash and his mafiya have lied in every direction, to every audience, non-stop, repeatedly. WHY?

[Spurs Homer]

Nope.

If he did not know it was illegal there is no crime in his mind to coverup.

Ignorance of the law -

you ought to try that someday - tell the cops you didn't KNOW it was illegal!

:lol:lol

[pgardn]

Now you’ve moved on to trust what’s in his heart. You’re a regular kellyanne

you do realize the rule of law doesn’t give one fuck if you’re ignorant of it, right?

defininitely not a trump shielder here

So how is the Stormy Daniels thing going?
Was this illegal?
Then wthef did Donald clearly want it to go away?

Boots, you got it to?

[pgardn]

Ignorance of the law -

you ought to try that someday - tell the cops you didn't KNOW it was illegal!

:lol:lol

Thats is absolutely a horrible comparison.
If you fckn dont believe Trump has a way out by not knowing you dont understand this situation.
which you dont, because you are a blind homer.

[Winehole23]

That you’re trying to pass on a fake news narrative, only when it’s against trump. But there is a propaganda wing for the administration that spends 24 hours a day trying to run a narrative for the stupids to not believe what their eyes see and ears hear, and you say nothing about that.

A bullshit throw away disclaimer trying to exonerate you, and mask your truth, is as worthless as ducks 10 times over.so, still no substantive gripes with the Illingsworth article.

[pgardn]

Bonnerific
Boots
Homer

TSA
Spurtacular
Chris

[Winehole23]

Probably has nothing to do with schiff stating the committee will release all of the testimony they’ve heard to mueller, right?

But, hey, both sidesGod, you're dense.

I just said the GOP wants to remove the soapbox because they don't set the agenda in this session.

[Chris]

:lmao

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Jesus...

[Winehole23]

No genius. The soapbox was nunes running to the White House to report testimony to the administrationYou're trippin. I just said the GOP used the HPSCI as a soapbox for two years. Did you think I was referring to someone beside Nunes?

:lol


this is interfering with a federal investigationCould be. I wonder how one would get standing to force the GOP to staff a committee, let alone to charge it with obstruction, but sure, that might be colorable.

I tend to doubt Mueller is relying on the US Congress for information -- he already has all the tools of counterintelligence at his disposal. His unbroken run of convictions would seem to indicate he had all of his targets dead to rights before he ever questioned them.

[Winehole23]

So you identify with the author, do you?personally, no

[Spurs Homer]

:lmao

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This stupid cunt - asks for evidence - Swallwell SPOONFEEDS the whore - and she continues right along in her Flintstones trance saying "yabba-dabba-doo" I see no evidence.

This is the CULT.

Her eyes and ears heard the evidence Swallwell spoonfed her - evidence in plain sight -

"Russia commits a crime - the president says to the Russians and to the fuckin' world - COMMIT MORE CRIMES FOR US"

and the whore - just DID NOT REGISTER THAT EVIDENCE.

Thanks for posting Darrin - I'm sure you didn't mean to post truth!


:lol:lol

[Spurs Homer]

So how is the Stormy Daniels thing going?
Was this illegal?
Then wthef did Donald clearly want it to go away?

Boots, you got it to?

Michael Cohen is going to prison for this crime - and the COURT has confirmed that Cohen was DIRECTED to commit this crime - by your CULT DADDY -
who is an unindicted co-conspirator in this FELONY.

God fuckin' damn you cult morons are stupid as shit.

The "stormy daniels thing" is a confirmed FELONY and Cohen and Trump are the FELONS - here - except Trump is temporarily protected by the very presidency he stole - which will not protect him forever.

[Spurs Homer]

Thats is absolutely a horrible comparison.
If you fckn dont believe Trump has a way out by not knowing you dont understand this situation.
which you dont, because you are a blind homer.

Your stupidity in unfuckinlimited.

Ignorance of the law is NOT A DEFENSE in the USA. Read the law books, the Penal code.

Fuck you are a stupid russian.

[Spurs Homer]

so, still no substantive gripes with the Illingsworth article.

still no answer about why you defend a president who sided with an enemy AFTER said enemy attacked the USA.

So - since no answer - I will conclude - either;

a) you are on russia's side and support the president who is on russia's side in this attack - for no reason other than you are on russia's side

b) you are a full-fledged cult member

c) you hate america and approve of the USA president destroying it by taking the enemy's side


d) there can be no other answer since the FACTS are what they are - Russia attacked- Trump denied it - then sided with Russia - and from that point your support of trump continued.

[Winehole23]

still no answer about why you defend a president who sided with an enemy AFTER said enemy attacked the USA.

So - since no answer - I will conclude - either;

a) you are on russia's side and support the president who is on russia's side in this attack - for no reason other than you are on russia's side

b) you are a full-fledged cult member

c) you hate america and approve of the USA president destroying it by taking the enemy's side


d) there can be no other answer since the FACTS are what they are - Russia attacked- Trump denied it - then sided with Russia - and from that point your support of trump continued.I'm sorry, when did I defend Trump?

[pgardn]

Your stupidity in unfuckinlimited.

Ignorance of the law is NOT A DEFENSE in the USA. Read the law books, the Penal code.

Fuck you are a stupid russian.

It most certainly is when the law is not even clear to experts cabbage for brains.
What is the law? What is collusion? What law do we know Trump broke that will hold up in a court after he is impeached?

Oh look Im a Russian now to be burned at the stake by the counter revolution.
This sounds so familiar in history. The dangers of the backlash. Anyone for a French Revolution here. Im told it was fun.

[Winehole23]

But you’re citing an wannabe anarchist self described libertarian (which is nothing more than piece of shit lying republican), to confirm your biases.

So her agenda, and the movement from which her agenda stems from favors trump because he’s destroying norms. But that’s what you agree with? Of course you doso, still no factual dispute, just a literary interpretation of me, based partly on mind-reading, part on conjecture.

[pgardn]

This stupid cunt - asks for evidence - Swallwell SPOONFEEDS the whore - and she continues right along in her Flintstones trance saying "yabba-dabba-doo" I see no evidence.

This is the CULT.

Her eyes and ears heard the evidence Swallwell spoonfed her - evidence in plain sight -

"Russia commits a crime - the president says to the Russians and to the fuckin' world - COMMIT MORE CRIMES FOR US"

and the whore - just DID NOT REGISTER THAT EVIDENCE.

Thanks for posting Darrin - I'm sure you didn't mean to post truth!


:lol:lol

This is evidence that shows the investigation needs to go forward, this is not evidence that will get him prosecuted as guilty as our sitting president.
The extreme blue team turning on that misogyny when frustrated by a female. Something else in common with Chris and derp.
I like that show. The lady does a good job, even if conservative. She good on followup knows her stuff.

Ohhhh and on PBS! Darrin and Chris not gonna like that.

[djohn2oo8]

Nope.

If he did not know it was illegal there is no crime in his mind to coverup.
No sir. That’s not how that works. If he didn’t know it was illegal and now he does and continues to deny it THAT is the coverup.

[djohn2oo8]

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baseline bum

The choices are too great to pick just one

[Winehole23]

But you’re citing an wannabe anarchist self described libertarian (which is nothing more than piece of shit lying republican), to confirm your biases.

So her agenda, and the movement from which her agenda stems from favors trump because he’s destroying norms. But that’s what you agree with? Of course you dosame reply as four posts up.

[boutons_deux]

Trash doing Pootin yet another favor

US lifts sanctions on Russian Oleg Deripaska’s aluminum company and others linked to him

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/us-lifts-sanctions-russian-oleg-deripaskas-aluminum-company-others-linked/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[baseline bum]

1089584308896104453
baseline bum

The choices are too great to pick just one

Uday

[DarrinS]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1089193853230505984

Lol, "We Have Seen the Mueller Report –– And It’s Spectacular"


Uh, no they haven't. :lol


You will be mightily disappointed if you click that link. :lol

[pgardn]

No sir. That’s not how that works. If he didn’t know it was illegal and now he does and continues to deny it THAT is the coverup.

So if the experts cannot even agree on the legality of particulars how in the hell is he supposed to know?

What is he going to be charged with please?

[Winehole23]

The comparison to "The Producers" seems apt to me. We'd probably have been none the wiser so long as Trump lost, but he won by mistake and they all got their dicks caught in a crack.

1089306964868374529

[djohn2oo8]

So if the experts cannot even agree on the legality of particulars how in the hell is he supposed to know?

What is he going to be charged with please?
Which experts? Trump was fucking warned by the FBI. Cut your shit.

[pgardn]

Which experts? Trump was fucking warned by the FBI. Cut your shit.

Dershowitz and many others who take by far the simplest to prove, obstruction of justice, and or lying about obstructing and go through the difficulties. It's not even clear that a president, given these circumstances, can obstruct justice just because he is president exercising constitutional powers. To stay on the safe side, Trump was warned by many advisors to shut the fck up and he did not. Trump is actively flaunting and pushing because he has been told there are many hazy points about indicting a sitting president. So he plays stupid and satisfies his base by pretending to be a strongman.

This is the same Dershowitz who has now proclaimed that after Stone got arrested, it's clear to him Mueller is going after Trump, which makes my assessment that it's family look pretty sorry.

A problem with precedent of indicting and convicting a president has got orange guy pressing anything he can. This is a guy that has already been in over 3000 law suits in a 10 year period before becoming president. So he can play the stupid gorilla based on what I have read. It's dangerous, but he loves it.

You cut your shit and create a new thread like you said you would.
Flynn is over.

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao calling Dershowitz an expert :rollin

[pgardn]

:lmao calling Dershowitz an expert :rollin

You are flat out stupid if you don't think he is.
He is not a Washington guy but he damn sure understands the ease and dirty ways out of prosecutorial overreach. He's done this his entire life.

You need to stick with your Flynn W.

[boutons_deux]

:lmao calling Dershowitz an expert :rollin

... or non-partisan

Dersh has been on Trash's dick as much as any sycophant

[Spurs Homer]

You are flat out stupid if you don't think he is.
He is not a Washington guy but he damn sure understands the ease and dirty ways out of prosecutorial overreach. He's done this his entire life.

You need to stick with your Flynn W.

Idiot.
Dershowitz is paid to distort facts and play "constitution theory what-ifs" on FOX news.

Firing Comey and then bragging about it to NBC news and the Russians - is obstruction of justice and nothing Dersh-shit says can ever change that.

[pgardn]

... or non-partisan

Dersh has been on Trash's dick as much as any sycophant

Totally agree because of Israel.
But saying the man has no insight into this whole affair is stupid.
Hes as slick as they come.

And Dershowitz now thinks Stone's arrest indicates Mueller does have his sights set on Trump, not just family.

[pgardn]

Idiot.
Dershowitz is paid to distort facts and play "constitution theory what-ifs" on FOX news.

Firing Comey and then bragging about it to NBC news and the Russians - is obstruction of justice and nothing Dersh-shit says can ever change that.

Not necessarily for a sitting president celery head.

[boutons_deux]

In Ominous Development for Trump, Roger Stone Gets Mueller Tattoo

WASHINGTON —In a potentially worrisome development for the White House, Donald Trump’s longtime political adviser Roger Stone spent the weekend getting a tattoo of the special counsel, Robert Mueller, on his back.

Minutes after being released on bail, Stone was reportedly driven to a tattoo-removal specialist in Jersey City, who

spent nine hours removing his notorious back tattoo of Richard Nixon to make room for the newly minted Mueller tat.

News of Stone’s Mueller tattoo sent a

wave of panic through the White House, where top aides attempted to predict what the tattoo portended for Stone’s loyalty to Trump going forward.

For his part, Stone downplayed the significance of the tattoo as he stripped off his shirt to display it for reporters.

“I will have no comment at this time,

other than to say that

Robert Mueller is a kind, fair, and extremely handsome man,” Stone said.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/in-ominous-development-for-trump-roger-stone-gets-mueller-tattoo (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/in-ominous-development-for-trump-roger-stone-gets-mueller-tattoo)

[DarrinS]

How does Borowitz even have a job? Lame

[boutons_deux]

Trump Tower Moscow was a much larger deal—andpotential crime—than anyone has realized (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/27/1828956/-Trump-Tower-Moscow-was-a-much-larger-deal-and-potential-crime-than-anyone-has-realized)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/635735/story_image/Screen_Shot_2019-01-23_at_14.54.26.png?1548284165

it appears that not only was there a deal, but there were extensive plans in place to make it the largest building in all of Europe based on a

new set of documents and emails (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/azeenghorayshi/here-are-the-trump-moscow-plans?ref=hpsplash&bftw=&utm_term=4ldqpfp#4ldqpfp)recently released by BuzzFeed News.

The plan was dazzling:

a glass skyscraper that would stretch higher than any other building in Europe,

offering ultra-luxury residences and hotel rooms and bearing a famous name.

Trump Tower Moscow, conceived as a partnership between Donald Trump’s company and a Russian real estate developer,

looked likely to yield profits in excess of $300 million (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/trump-russia-cohen-moscow-tower-mueller-investigation).

The tower was never built, but it has become a focal point of the investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller into Trump’s relationship with Russia in the lead-up to his presidency.

The president and his representatives have dismissed the project as little more than a notion

— a rough plan led by Trump’s then-lawyer, Michael Cohen, and his associate Felix Sater, of which

Trump and his family said they were only loosely aware as the election campaign gathered pace.

But the plan was much more than just a basic idea and outline.

Many of the specifics had already been worked out including the

architectural plans,

the developer, and

the funding for the project.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/27/1828956/-Trump-Tower-Moscow-was-a-much-larger-deal-and-potential-crime-than-anyone-has-realized?detail=emaildkre

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1089193853230505984

:lmao

[TSA]

:lmao calling Dershowitz an expert :rollin

djohn’s “experts”


865993952943624192

[Pavlov]

TSA's experts:

https://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/4chan.jpg
http://www.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/8chan-cover1.png
https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2015/07/09/Photos/ZH/MW-DP774_voat_0_20150709140137_ZH.jpg
http://www.theshelbyreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/2000px-Publix_Logo.svg.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Trump Camp Pushed Stone For More Wikileaks Info At Key Moment In 2016

In late July 2016, nobody thought Trump could win.

The Republican National Convention had ended on July 21, and the campaign seemed to be flailing after a fractious confab, with a Republican elite that appeared determined to sit out the rest of the campaign.




But a detailed look at the timeline of the week following the end of the Republican National Convention — from July 22 to July 27 — reveals that amid widespread skepticism of Trump’s presidential bid,

Trump’s longtime friend Roger Stone embarked on a desperate push to get more information on what emails Wikileaks, which dropped its first tranche on July 22, had its disposal.

The push (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/roger-stone-trump-campaign-wikileaks), according to an indictment unveiled Friday against Stone, came after an unnamed Trump campaign official was directed by an unknown person to contact Stone “about any additional releases and what other damaging information” Wikileaks “had regarding the Clinton campaign.”

Thus began a months-long backchannel between the Trump campaign and Wikileaks via Stone.

But one day after the close of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, it was a different time.

Wikileaks had just begun to publish damaging emails showing the internal deliberations of Democratic National Committee staffers during the 2016 primary. The emails dropped the Friday before the Democratic convention was set to begin the following Monday.

Trump himself and those in his inner circle rushed to highlight the divisions within the Democratic Party exposed by the Wikileaks dump,

just as the party headed into its national convention.

The GOP nominee both scoffed at the idea that Russia was behind the leaks,

while continuing to tout his warm feelings for Russian President Vladimir Putin and

support for policy positions advanced by the Russian leader.



Sometime after the July 22 email release, “a senior Trump Campaign official was directed to contact STONE” about what else Wikileaks had, according to the Stone indictment.

The number of people in a position to direct a senior campaign official — apart from the candidate — is extremely limited.

It is also not clear when exactly that direction was handed down to the official. But “thereafter,” Stone “told the Trump Campaign about potential future releases of damaging material” from Wikileaks, the indictment says.

By July 25, Stone had begun via email hassling “Person 1,”

as the indictment dubs the individual who appears to be far-right conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi,

about establishing contact with Assange and getting “the pending” Wikileaks emails …

”they deal with Foundation, allegedly.”

Corsi forwarded Stone’s message to Ted Malloch,

a London-based conservative writer, and

Stone’s outreach to Corsi about Assange would continue through late July and August.

During that same initial weekend,

Trump ramped up his promotion of the material released by Wikileaks and

specifically sought to convince Bernie Sanders’ support not to support Hillary Clinton.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-senior-campaign-official-roger-stone-wikileaks-dnc-emails-bernie-sanders?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

C O L L U S I O N

trafficking in KNOWN cybercrime goods.

[Spurs Homer]

Trump Camp Pushed Stone For More Wikileaks Info At Key Moment In 2016

In late July 2016, nobody thought Trump could win.

The Republican National Convention had ended on July 21, and the campaign seemed to be flailing after a fractious confab, with a Republican elite that appeared determined to sit out the rest of the campaign.




But a detailed look at the timeline of the week following the end of the Republican National Convention — from July 22 to July 27 — reveals that amid widespread skepticism of Trump’s presidential bid,

Trump’s longtime friend Roger Stone embarked on a desperate push to get more information on what emails Wikileaks, which dropped its first tranche on July 22, had its disposal.

The push (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/roger-stone-trump-campaign-wikileaks), according to an indictment unveiled Friday against Stone, came after an unnamed Trump campaign official was directed by an unknown person to contact Stone “about any additional releases and what other damaging information” Wikileaks “had regarding the Clinton campaign.”

Thus began a months-long backchannel between the Trump campaign and Wikileaks via Stone.

But one day after the close of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, it was a different time.

Wikileaks had just begun to publish damaging emails showing the internal deliberations of Democratic National Committee staffers during the 2016 primary. The emails dropped the Friday before the Democratic convention was set to begin the following Monday.

Trump himself and those in his inner circle rushed to highlight the divisions within the Democratic Party exposed by the Wikileaks dump,

just as the party headed into its national convention.

The GOP nominee both scoffed at the idea that Russia was behind the leaks,

while continuing to tout his warm feelings for Russian President Vladimir Putin and

support for policy positions advanced by the Russian leader.



Sometime after the July 22 email release, “a senior Trump Campaign official was directed to contact STONE” about what else Wikileaks had, according to the Stone indictment.

The number of people in a position to direct a senior campaign official — apart from the candidate — is extremely limited.

It is also not clear when exactly that direction was handed down to the official. But “thereafter,” Stone “told the Trump Campaign about potential future releases of damaging material” from Wikileaks, the indictment says.

By July 25, Stone had begun via email hassling “Person 1,”

as the indictment dubs the individual who appears to be far-right conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi,

about establishing contact with Assange and getting “the pending” Wikileaks emails …

”they deal with Foundation, allegedly.”

Corsi forwarded Stone’s message to Ted Malloch,

a London-based conservative writer, and

Stone’s outreach to Corsi about Assange would continue through late July and August.

During that same initial weekend,

Trump ramped up his promotion of the material released by Wikileaks and

specifically sought to convince Bernie Sanders’ support not to support Hillary Clinton.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-senior-campaign-official-roger-stone-wikileaks-dnc-emails-bernie-sanders?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

C O L L U S I O N

trafficking in KNOWN cybercrime goods.

It is called;

Conspiracy to Defraud the USA - and Mueller is working from the bottom - up -

all the evidence is there - but the corrupt AG and the corrupt ACTING -AG will try to hide the report and we may have a battle to get that report made public-
all while Trump continues his fraudulent corrupt criminal presidency.

In the end - all will be prosecuted.

[koriwhat]

It is called;

Conspiracy to Defraud the USA - and Mueller is working from the bottom - up -

all the evidence is there - but the corrupt AG and the corrupt ACTING -AG will try to hide the report and we may have a battle to get that report made public-
all while Trump continues his fraudulent corrupt criminal presidency.

In the end - all will be prosecuted.

in the end both of yall are delusional.

[koriwhat]

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who cares what fat slob shitty wannabe journalist april ryan has to say or that rawstory liberal rag too?

[TSA]

:yield

[TSA]

Trump Camp Pushed Stone For More Wikileaks Info At Key Moment In 2016

In late July 2016, nobody thought Trump could win.

The Republican National Convention had ended on July 21, and the campaign seemed to be flailing after a fractious confab, with a Republican elite that appeared determined to sit out the rest of the campaign.




But a detailed look at the timeline of the week following the end of the Republican National Convention — from July 22 to July 27 — reveals that amid widespread skepticism of Trump’s presidential bid,

Trump’s longtime friend Roger Stone embarked on a desperate push to get more information on what emails Wikileaks, which dropped its first tranche on July 22, had its disposal.

The push (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/roger-stone-trump-campaign-wikileaks), according to an indictment unveiled Friday against Stone, came after an unnamed Trump campaign official was directed by an unknown person to contact Stone “about any additional releases and what other damaging information” Wikileaks “had regarding the Clinton campaign.”

Thus began a months-long backchannel between the Trump campaign and Wikileaks via Stone.

But one day after the close of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, it was a different time.

Wikileaks had just begun to publish damaging emails showing the internal deliberations of Democratic National Committee staffers during the 2016 primary. The emails dropped the Friday before the Democratic convention was set to begin the following Monday.

Trump himself and those in his inner circle rushed to highlight the divisions within the Democratic Party exposed by the Wikileaks dump,

just as the party headed into its national convention.

The GOP nominee both scoffed at the idea that Russia was behind the leaks,

while continuing to tout his warm feelings for Russian President Vladimir Putin and

support for policy positions advanced by the Russian leader.



Sometime after the July 22 email release, “a senior Trump Campaign official was directed to contact STONE” about what else Wikileaks had, according to the Stone indictment.

The number of people in a position to direct a senior campaign official — apart from the candidate — is extremely limited.

It is also not clear when exactly that direction was handed down to the official. But “thereafter,” Stone “told the Trump Campaign about potential future releases of damaging material” from Wikileaks, the indictment says.

By July 25, Stone had begun via email hassling “Person 1,”

as the indictment dubs the individual who appears to be far-right conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi,

about establishing contact with Assange and getting “the pending” Wikileaks emails …

”they deal with Foundation, allegedly.”

Corsi forwarded Stone’s message to Ted Malloch,

a London-based conservative writer, and

Stone’s outreach to Corsi about Assange would continue through late July and August.

During that same initial weekend,

Trump ramped up his promotion of the material released by Wikileaks and

specifically sought to convince Bernie Sanders’ support not to support Hillary Clinton.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-senior-campaign-official-roger-stone-wikileaks-dnc-emails-bernie-sanders?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

C O L L U S I O N

trafficking in KNOWN cybercrime goods.


1089714189105590272

"Similarly, there are the parts of Stone's testimony that Mueller chose not to indict Stone over. Stone's defense of himself in the "time in the barrel" matter, in his contacts with Guccifer 2.0, and in his lack of direct contacts with WikiLeaks all resulted in no accusations from Mueller. And, of course, the indictment did not charge that Stone knew about the WikiLeaks disclosures beforehand, or that he was involved in any conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia to influence the 2016 election, or that such a conspiracy even existed."

[Pavlov]

:cryYou've used each of those as a source, TSA.

You can't deny it.

[djohn2oo8]

1090036333769302016

hmmmm

[Spurs Homer]

1090036333769302016

hmmmm

I was watching that -

so Corsi claims he testified to that - when speaking to Mueller -

more conspiracy -

of course we already knew that when the "grab em by the pussy" tape was released -
that wikileaks responded with a release -

seems like now we know Stone was too happy to help with that release -
and a top campaign official was directed to follow up with stone

any further denial from the cult is just "russian tactics" that they will continue to use until the day trump is sitting at the crossbar hotel.

[TSA]

You've used each of those as a source, TSA.

You can't deny it.

I’m not denying it. Just like you aren’t denying your go to white flag deflection.

[TSA]

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:cry we are running out of time for all the super secret conspiracy charges Mueller’s been hiding :cry

[Pavlov]

I’m not denying it. Just like you aren’t denying your go to white flag deflection.What am I deflecting, TSA?

Be specific.

[Pavlov]

1090011871204261888

:cry we are running out of time for all the super secret conspiracy charges Mueller’s been hiding :cry:lol they just raided Stone's places Friday.

When are you saying the report is coming out?

Call your shot.

Also, anyone could say the same for you with Huber and Horowitz. Do you see the irony, TSA?

[TSA]

1090036333769302016

hmmmm

"Similarly, there are the parts of Stone's testimony that Mueller chose not to indict Stone over. Stone's defense of himself in the "time in the barrel" matter, in his contacts with Guccifer 2.0, and in his lack of direct contacts with WikiLeaks all resulted in no accusations from Mueller. And, of course, the indictment did not charge that Stone knew about the WikiLeaks disclosures beforehand, or that he was involved in any conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia to influence the 2016 election, or that such a conspiracy even existed.”

[TSA]

What am I deflecting, TSA?

Be specific.


You deflect from the Russia probe by going to Pizzagate. It’s your white flag, own it.

[Pavlov]

You deflect from the Russia probe by going to Pizzagate. It’s your white flag, own it.I bring up that you are a worse conspiracy theory hack than almost anyone here when you try to make fun of someone else for it.

Your whining about it is your white flag.

I discuss the Trump/Russia topic all the time. You shut up about your conspiracy theories out of shame of embarrassment or whatever and it's easy to beat you over the head with it.

Sorry, you shouldn't have been so gullible in the first place. That's all on you.

[Pavlov]

I mean the big question is if there's nothing to any of the Mueller investigation, why did all those Trump people like to the feds so many times?

[TSA]

:lol they just raided Stone's places Friday.

When are you saying the report is coming out?

Call your shot.

Also, anyone could say the same for you with Huber and Horowitz. Do you see the irony, TSA?

I don’t know when the report is coming out but the latest statement from Whitaker really has you shook.

And your comparison of Mueller to Huber/Horowitz was terrible. One investigation has made indictments available to the public and the other hasn’t. It’s cute you still are hoping for a super secret conspiracy charge to drop as the investigation finishes.

[DarrinS]

I mean the big question is if there's nothing to any of the Mueller investigation, why did all those Trump people like to the feds so many times?

They like liking, tbh

[DarrinS]

They like liking, tbh

That was pretty lame. :lo!

Nevermind

[Pavlov]

I don’t know when the report is coming out but the latest statement from Whitaker really has you shook. :lol no.

He was more shook trying to spit out the sentences than anyone else could be shook by hearing them.


And your comparison of Mueller to Huber/Horowitz was terrible. One investigation has made indictments available to the public and the other hasn’t. It’s cute you still are hoping for a super secret conspiracy charge to drop as the investigation finishes.So you're hoping there are super secret indictments that Huber and Horowitz just haven't told you about?

:lmao

That's adorable.

Sorry, weren't you hyping super secret indictments against the Dems before you knew Huber and Horowitz existed?

Yes or no.

[TSA]

I bring up that you are a worse conspiracy theory hack than almost anyone here when you try to make fun of someone else for it.

Your whining about it is your white flag.

I discuss the Trump/Russia topic all the time. You shut up about your conspiracy theories out of shame of embarrassment or whatever and it's easy to beat you over the head with it.

Sorry, you shouldn't have been so gullible in the first place. That's all on you.


No it’s just you being butthurt that you fell for the Russiagate hoax. I laugh and call out all the fake news your fellow believers push and you immediately rush to their defense. Instead of acknowledging they/you fell for another fake news story concerning Trump/Russia you bring up Pizzagate.

How many times have you called out djohn for all the game need he spreads in this thread?

[DarrinS]

I wouldn't expect much from Huber or Horowitz. They say sunlight is the best disinfectant, but it can also be career suicide, tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

That boy is pissy TWOOOOday!

[Pavlov]

No it’s just you being butthurt that you fell for the Russiagate hoax. I laugh and call out all the fake news your fellow believers push and you immediately rush to their defense. Instead of acknowledging they/you fell for another fake news story concerning Trump/Russia you bring up Pizzagate.

How many times have you called out djohn for all the game need he spreads in this thread?What specifically did I fall for?

This is pretty much going the way I said it would. Remember, you demanded I tell you several times.

[TSA]

I mean the big question is if there's nothing to any of the Mueller investigation, why did all those Trump people like to the feds so many times?

According to Mueller’s indictments none of them lied about colluding with Russia during the election. Why is that?

[djohn2oo8]

According to Mueller’s indictments none of them lied about colluding with Russia during the election. Why is that?
Wait didn’t you say the indictments had nothing to do with collusion? So how then could Mueller say they didn’t lie about collusion?


Boy you dun fucked up :lol

[TSA]

What specifically did I fall for?

This is pretty much going the way I said it would. Remember, you demanded I tell you several times.

You still think Mueller is saving some super secret conspiracy indictments, or are you backing away from that already?

[DarrinS]

That boy is pissy TWOOOOday!

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohzdLOtcXRyk9hQDS/giphy.gif

[Pavlov]

I wouldn't expect much from Huber or Horowitz. They say sunlight is the best disinfectant, but it can also be career suicide, tbh.lol that is literally Horowitz's job, Darrin.

[Pavlov]

You still think Mueller is saving some super secret conspiracy indictments, or are you backing away from that already?I don't think he's done with indictments.

I could be wrong.

[djohn2oo8]

I don't think he's done with indictments.

I could be wrong.
You aren’t wrong.

[TSA]

Wait didn’t you say the indictments had nothing to do with collusion? So how then could Mueller say they didn’t lie about collusion?


Boy you dun fucked up :lol

If they lied about it he’d have put that in the indictment ie: Stone colluding with Wikileaks, Cohen in Prague, Page an agent of Russia etc.

[TSA]

I don't think he's done with indictments.

I could be wrong.


When are we going to see the first Trump/Russian collusion indictment? Call your shot.

Also, how many times have you called out djohn for all the fake news he spreads in this thread and why don’t you call him out?

[Pavlov]

When are we going to see the first Trump/Russian collusion indictment? Call your shot.Would probably happen in 2-3 months if it happens at all IMO.


Also, how many times have you called out djohn for all the fake news he spreads in this thread and why don’t you call him out?Is that my job now?

It's not like you aren't all over that job. Duplicating your effort would be redundant and tiresome considering all the fake news and conspiracies from your side we need to check.

[TSA]

Would probably happen in 2-3 months if it happens at all IMO.

Is that my job now?

It's not like you aren't all over that job. Duplicating your effort would be redundant and tiresome considering all the fake news and conspiracies from your side we need to check.

:lmao @ the 24/7 shitposter calling anything on Spurstalk tiresome

So how many times have you called out djohn for all the fake news he spreads in this thread?

[Pavlov]

:lmao @ the 24/7 shitposter calling anything on Spurstalk tiresome

So how many times have you called out djohn for all the fake news he spreads in this thread?Don't know.

It's not my job.

How many times have you called out Chris on his fake news?

CROFL your deflection attempts.

[TSA]

Don't know.

It's not my job.

How many times have you called out Chris on his fake news?



What’s your job?

[Pavlov]

What’s your job?CROFL your deflection attempts.

[TSA]

Is there a specific fake news story posted by Chris in this thread you are referring to?

[Pavlov]

Is there a specific fake news story posted by Chris in this thread you are referring to?CROFL your deflection attempts.

[TSA]

CROFL your deflection attempts.

^^^
actual deflection

[Pavlov]

^^^
actual deflectionNo. What are you talking about now, TSA?

Demanding I police fake news that is already policed.

That's an actual deflection.

CROFL

[djohn2oo8]

If they lied about it he’d have put that in the indictment ie: Stone colluding with Wikileaks, Cohen in Prague, Page an agent of Russia etc.
Actually no he wouldn’t. You don’t charge the most serious crimes first. Also, if Mueller were to do that, and it involved others in an ongoing investigation, Mueller would have to provide discovery to Stones team and that could tip off others.

solly cholly, you thought you had something.

[TSA]

No. What are you talking about now, TSA?

Demanding I police fake news that is already policed.

That's an actual deflection.

CROFL

When you start accusing others of demanding things when you were simply being asked a question it’s a dead giveaway you’re shook.

[TSA]

Actually no he wouldn’t. You don’t charge the most serious crimes first. Also, if Mueller were to do that, and it involved others in an ongoing investigation, Mueller would have to provide discovery to Stones team and that could tip off others.

solly cholly, you thought you had something.

You and Pavlov have the same pipedream :lol that’s so cute

What’s it feel like to think you have something and then your hero smacks you down like the fake news peddling bitch that you are?

"BuzzFeed's description of specific statements to the Special Counsel's Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen's Congressional testimony are not accurate," said Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller's office, in a statement.“

poor boy had to go into hiding, again :rollin

[Pavlov]

When you start accusing others of demanding things when you were simply being asked a question it’s a dead giveaway you’re shook.:lol no

You think I should police something that's already policed.

Why?

Explain yourself since this is what you want to talk about in the Russia thread.

[Pavlov]

You and Pavlov have the same pipedream :lol that’s so cute

What’s it feel like to think you have something and then your hero smacks you down like the fake news peddling bitch that you are?You've never felt anything like that?

:lol the irony

[djohn2oo8]

You and Pavlov have the same pipedream :lol that’s so cute

What’s it feel like to think you have something and then your hero smacks you down like the fake news peddling bitch that you are?

"BuzzFeed's description of specific statements to the Special Counsel's Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen's Congressional testimony are not accurate," said Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller's office, in a statement.“

poor boy had to go into hiding, again :rollin
What’s it like to know Trump isn’t cleared from this investigation?

[djohn2oo8]

:lol no

You think I should police something that's already policed.

Why?

Explain yourself since this is what you want to talk about in the Russia thread.
He is desperate for Mueller to finish and pleading on his knees for no more indictments

[djohn2oo8]

1090025939810037762

[Spurs Homer]

TSA shitting the bed again - per par.

[djohn2oo8]

TSA shitting the bed again - per par.
Everybody but Susan Rice gettin indicted.

[djohn2oo8]

1090095687491117056

Just when TSA thought Mueller was done :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

Everybody but Susan Rice gettin indicted.

I was just reading through this ....

of course ALL OF THIS is perfectly ok for a president to be a part of - this is ALL COMPLETELY INNOCENT -

It is quite STAGGERING to read this and then realize that this is the President of the USA and people like TSA think this is perfectly acceptable and even DEFEND THIS BEHAVIOR;


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Counsel_investigation_(2017%E2%80%93presen t)

[djohn2oo8]

1090095687491117056

Just when TSA thought Mueller was done :lmao
Gotta put another :lol in at TSA

[djohn2oo8]

1090099117987151872

[Spurs Homer]

Gotta put another :lol in at TSA


Never seen anyone take that many L's


:lol:lol

I told him to enjoy that mini-victory with that Buzzfeed thing - even though Buzzfeed is still standing by their reporting and Whitaker probably asked Mueller's team to say something to get Trump off his back -

which eventually will be ANOTHER piece of evidence in the Obstruction of Justice counts against Trump.

[DarrinS]

Federal pound me in the ass prison, any day now, for Drumpf and entire family. Don't, for a minute, think Barron's getting out of this shit either. You only know that little fucker has Russian pen pals.

[djohn2oo8]

Lol Darrin antsy

[DarrinS]

Lol Darrin antsy

Amused

[boutons_deux]

"they say" more indictment(s) for Stone

[djohn2oo8]

"they say" more indictment(s) for Stone
More indictments for a lot of folks.

[djohn2oo8]

Amused
Like your Hillary hacked the DNC theory?

[Spurs Homer]

Cuckservatives are absolutely appalled that the traitor criminal Roger Stone who threatened - in writing - to kill a witness' dog was actually treated like a criminal when he was arrested.
Hannity whined like a little bitch for an entire hour and Tucker the Nazi whined to anyone who would listen about how awful our country has become when white traitor liar criminals get arrested in the same manner that any black or brown person get arrested.

Hannity: "32 guys with full gear and assault weapons"

Cucker Carlson: "to arrest a 66 year old man who would never destroy evidence! - Mueller is unaccountable to anyone!"


:lol:lol

That was my once a month FOX news watching for a laugh night!

[Pavlov]

Cuckservatives are absolutely appalled that the traitor criminal Roger Stone who threatened - in writing - to kill a witness' dog was actually treated like a criminal when he was arrested.
Hannity whined like a little bitch for an entire hour and Tucker the Nazi whined to anyone who would listen about how awful our country has become when white traitor liar criminals get arrested in the same manner that any black or brown person get arrested.

Hannity: "32 guys with full gear and assault weapons"

Cucker Carlson: "to arrest a 66 year old man who would never destroy evidence! - Mueller is unaccountable to anyone!"


:lol:lol

That was my once a month FOX news watching for a laugh night!:lol Mueller has nothing to do with the way the FBI arrests suspects.

Yeah, perfectly safe to roll up on this guy to arrest him and search his shit.

https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/ih9nflXAKQrAeLRomMpSKnSyw6w=/1400x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/6SZCCN6IUB2GZ2TC5YJ2HMMXUA.jpg

[Pavlov]

I don’t know when the report is coming out but the latest statement from Whitaker really has you shook.1090054211239403522

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin:rollin

[Winehole23]

WTF? It's like they're egging it on.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyCwJJTXQAI9CU6.jpg

[Winehole23]

1090054211239403522

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin:rollinFlop sweat. Glistening like a Thanksgiving ham.

Wray looked like he was struggling to keep a straight face.

[boutons_deux]

“WE CAN SEE COLLUSION”: WITH THE STONE INDICTMENT, MUELLER BEGINS MAKING HIS CASE

The special counsel’s office didn’t charge Roger Stone with conspiracy. Between the lines of the indictment, however, legal experts see a giant red arrow pointing to the president. “Either Trump was in on it,” says one former Justice official, “or he goes down as the most clueless boss and president in the 242-year history of the Republic.”

“Roger Stone, after the election, went to great lengths to take out the shovels and bury the evidence of what he did,” Swalwell told me.

“In America, you don’t get rewarded if you are able to bury the evidence.

If you get caught with the shovel in hand, that is pretty good evidence that you are trying to get rid of something important.”

“The text messages and the e-mails and the blatant witness tampering and intimidation that we see detailed in this indictment is predictable.

It is criminal.

And those are the kinds of crimes that are so easily proved,”

“Big news Wednesday . . . now pretend u don’t know me . . . Hillary’s campaign will die this week.”

“Really, in 15 words,

we can see collusion;

we can see the cover-up;

we can see the conspiracy; and

we can see that the whole point of this is

to kill Hillary’s campaign in a way that relies on stolen information to do it,” Kirschner said.

“I mean, for goodness’ sake—you can prove the case with those 15 words.”

legal experts hinted that Mueller may bring additional charges down the line, after he’s negotiated with Stone, or when he files his final report. “Stone is going to have to basically work his way out of this abyss that he has created . . . Good luck to that,”

“He is going to end up paying a huge price. The idea, however, is that price—as we are seeing with Michael Cohen right now—warps over time.”

“Who can direct a senior campaign official?

It has to be a very senior campaign official.

So we are seeing that at the highest level,

there was an interest to get what Russia had stolen,”

“We have a right to ask if it was candidate Trump,

because we know that candidate Trump directed his lawyer to make payoffs to witnesses during the campaign;

we know that candidate Trump directed his lawyer to rig polling during the campaign . . .

It wouldn’t be out of character if he was involved in what Roger Stone was up to, but

we don’t know until we look.

But I would imagine that the Mueller team already knows the answer to that.”
(https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/roger-stone-indictment-robert-mueller-russian-collusion?mbid=nl_th_5c4b9e9ba358ac6e49189053&CNDID=43758549&utm_source=nl&utm_medium=email&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=Copy%20of%20vyf_hive_news_20190128%20( 1)&bxid=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&spMailingID=15028881&spUserID=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&spJobID=1562271600&spReportId=MTU2MjI3MTYwMAS2)
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/roger-stone-indictment-robert-mueller-russian-collusion?mbid=nl_th_5c4b9e9ba358ac6e49189053&CNDID=43758549&utm_source=nl&utm_medium=email&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=Copy%20of%20vyf_hive_news_20190128%20( 1)&bxid=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&spMailingID=15028881&spUserID=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&spJobID=1562271600&spReportId=MTU2MjI3MTYwMAS2 (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/roger-stone-indictment-robert-mueller-russian-collusion?mbid=nl_th_5c4b9e9ba358ac6e49189053&CNDID=43758549&utm_source=nl&utm_medium=email&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=Copy%20of%20vyf_hive_news_20190128%20( 1)&bxid=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&spMailingID=15028881&spUserID=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&spJobID=1562271600&spReportId=MTU2MjI3MTYwMAS2)

[Spurs Homer]

:lol Mueller has nothing to do with the way the FBI arrests suspects.

Yeah, perfectly safe to roll up on this guy to arrest him and search his shit.

https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/ih9nflXAKQrAeLRomMpSKnSyw6w=/1400x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/6SZCCN6IUB2GZ2TC5YJ2HMMXUA.jpg



Hannity: "We are witnessing the biggest abuse of power, scandal, in modern American history, it's playing out right before your eyes — more corruption than we've ever seen," Hannity told his viewers Friday evening in classic theatric fashion. "Really? A pre-dawn raid, 17 vehicles move in, 27 FBI in full SWAT gear. Guns drawn, home surrounded. For what?“Naturally fake news CNN, they were there,” Hannity continued. “They captured the whole thing. Wow, how did they know the exact timing of this?


:lol:lol:lol


BUT--


ZERO mention of Stone's lying, ZERO mention of Stone's threats, his collusion with wikileaks and the trump campaign -

ZERO mention of indictments - just poor little Roger and his whining about being treated like a criminal - which he is.

[boutons_deux]

Hannity: "32 guys with full gear and assault weapons"



SWAT raids are used to deliver fucking warrants, many 10Ks times per year.


====================

Shedding light on the use of SWAT teams

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/02/17/shedding-light-on-the-use-of-swat-teams/?utm_term=.4f9537aeb9fe

Hannity and other rightwingnutjob lying assholes only bitch and whine and feign outrage, shock about militarized police overkill when the target is one of their own.

[Trill Clinton]

https://twitter.com/johnson_carrie/status/1090280897675513861?s=19

[boutons_deux]

THE MUELLER THREAD: FROM RED SCORPION TO RED SPARROW

https://pictures.ozy.com/pictures/2048x1152/6/9/5/137695_gettyimages81708297.jpg

Red Scorpion was the cocksure brainchild of Jack Abramoff, the American lobbyist who would later become the black-fedora-wearing poster boy for D.C. corruption.

An executive producer on the film — and Abramoff’s :lol good friend — was a longtime Republican consultant named Paul Erickson.

Thirty years later, Erickson finds himself starring in another made-for-Hollywood Russian political thriller alongside

his girlfriend, Maria Butina, :lol

a red-haired femme fatale who recently pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges

in connection with Russian attempts to influence the 2016 presidential election.

And now, with federal prosecutors closing in, it’s time to see whether Erickson can, like Lundgren, elude his would-be captors long enough to ride off into a red sunset.

ERICKSON WOULD BE THE FIRST AMERICAN IN THE TRUMP-RUSSIA INVESTIGATION

TO BE CHARGED UNDER A STATUTE THAT JUSTICE DEPARTMENT LAWYERS DESCRIBE AS “ESPIONAGE-LITE.”

https://www.ozy.com/opinion/the-mueller-thread-from-red-scorpion-to-red-sparrow/92292?utm_source=dd&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=01292019&variable=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031

The Repugs are so totally corrupted by Pootin :lol

[TSA]

his collusion with wikileaks and the trump campaign -


Pavlov I'm going to give you the first shot at correcting Spurs Homer

[boutons_deux]

Mitch McConnell reportedly linked to Putin, Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska and Russian companies (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/28/1830431/-Mitch-McConnell-now-tied-to-Putin-Oleg-Deripaska-and-Russian-companies-after-lifting-sanctions)

There always seems to be more to the story when it comes to Trump and Russia, and this time it involves Republican Senate Leader Mitch McConnell.

Monday evening brought a new twist in that one of Mitch McConnell’s major donors, Len Blavatnik, who is tied to Vladimir Putin and other Russian oligarchs, benefited when Trump and McConnell lifted Russian sanctions on Sunday.

An earlier Dallas News (https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/12/15/putins-proxies-helped-funnel-millions-gop-campaigns)piece titled, “How Putin oligarchs funneled millions into GOP campaigns.” is one of the best pieces you’ll read on the subject. Here are a couple of excerpts.

Blavatnik contributed a total of $3.5 million to a PAC associated with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

Blavatnik contributed $1.5 million to the GOP Senate Leadership Fund PAC in the name of Access Industries and

another $1 million in the name of AI-Altep Holdings during the 2015/2016 election season.

And as of September 2017, he had contributed another $1 million this year through AI–Altep.

Blavatnik, whose family emigrated to the U.S. in the late 1970s, is

a longtime business associate of Russian oligarchs Oleg Deripaska and Viktor Vekselberg,

both of whom have ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Along with McConnell, Republican Senators Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham received hefty sums from Blavatnik as well.


Lindsey Graham? That story needs to be written and/or revisited.

Mitch McConnell is benefiting from his direct and indirect ties to Putin and Russian oligarchs,

which most likely guided McConnell’s recent vote to lift Russian sanctions.

Many have suspected for some time that smirky McConnell was looped into the Russian knot one way or another.

Watching the Republican Senate Majority Leader defend and cling to Trump, like a tick, has been difficult and disturbing to watch for over two years.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/28/1830431/-Mitch-McConnell-now-tied-to-Putin-Oleg-Deripaska-and-Russian-companies-after-lifting-sanctions

The fucking, venal, traitorous Repugs are totally compromised bought by the Russians, as much as they are bough by US BigDonor.

Pootin is laughing his ass off

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/28/1830431/-Mitch-McConnell-now-tied-to-Putin-Oleg-Deripaska-and-Russian-companies-after-lifting-sanctions

[TSA]

He is desperate for Mueller to finish and pleading on his knees for no more indictments

:rollin

Is that why I am here still posting and you run and hide for a week every time a fake news story you pushed gets shoved back in your face?

[Spurs Homer]

Pavlov (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7343) I'm going to give you the first shot at correcting Spurs Homer

Oh yes - you are right -

"his conspiracy to defraud the USA - in which he conspired with Wikileaks and with the high level Trump campaign official - which is really Trump at the end of the day"

[boutons_deux]

How Putin's oligarchs funneled millions into GOP campaigns

Editor's note May 8, 2018: This column originally published December 15, 2017.

New allegations about $500k in payments from a Russian oligarch made to Trump attorney Michael Cohen (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/donald-trump-1/2018/05/08/oligarch-steered-cash-trump-lawyers-account-avenatti-says) have placed it back in the news.

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/12/15/putins-proxies-helped-funnel-millions-gop-campaigns
FILED UNDER

[djohn2oo8]

:rollin

Is that why I am here still posting and you run and hide for a week every time a fake news story you pushed gets shoved back in your face?
Rolling laughter stops nothing. Nunes shut down det House investigation a tad bit early :lol

Schiff and Mueller have you nervous.

[Pavlov]

Pavlov I'm going to give you the first shot at correcting Spurs HomerCorrecting speculation?

CROFL TSA

[djohn2oo8]

Correcting speculation?

CROFL TSA
Ol boy out there sweating worse than Whittaker.

[spurraider21]

Hannity: "We are witnessing the biggest abuse of power, scandal, in modern American history, it's playing out right before your eyes — more corruption than we've ever seen," Hannity told his viewers Friday evening in classic theatric fashion. "Really? A pre-dawn raid, 17 vehicles move in, 27 FBI in full SWAT gear. Guns drawn, home surrounded. For what?“Naturally fake news CNN, they were there,” Hannity continued. “They captured the whole thing. Wow, how did they know the exact timing of this?


:lol:lol:lol


BUT--


ZERO mention of Stone's lying, ZERO mention of Stone's threats, his collusion with wikileaks and the trump campaign -

ZERO mention of indictments - just poor little Roger and his whining about being treated like a criminal - which he is.



man, trump's DOJ and FBI are really corrupt tbh...

[Splits]

Pavlov (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7343) I'm going to give you the first shot at correcting Spurs Homer

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1090357257366372352?s=21

[boutons_deux]

Mnuchin compromised

House Intelligence Committee just announced a new Russia probe into the Trump administration


Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) is leading the charge to uncover the truth behind Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin’s partnership to produce Hollywood movies with Len Blavatnik, which lasted into the middle of 2017.

The Treasury Secretary was Blavatnik’s partner in Rat-Pac-Dune Entertainment which was behind movies like Wonder Woman, though the oligarch reportedly (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywood-film-financiers-a-torrid-love-affair-hits-a-rocky-road-1023140)

bought out the Treasury Secretary for $25 million in mid-2017,

though nobody really knows what happened.

Mnuchin’s recent decision to lift Russian election attack sanctions against a business partner of Blavatnik happened over explicit Democratic objections

and a request for more time to publicly debate the issue.

Deripaska became personally sanctioned under the first major bill passed during the Trump administration because he was Paul Manafort’s conduit to the Kremlin during Putin’s 2016 election attack via his former interpreter and criminal co-conspirator Konstantin Kilimnik. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/09/konstantin-kilimnik-russia-trump-manafort-mueller)

Indeed,

Mnuchin allowed Russian state-run enterprises and banks to buy up Deripaska’s position in his companies as a sham divestment transaction,

which experts say means nothing has really changed because of America’s sanctions.

Blavatnik’s investment into Deripaska’s companies is through a partnership named SUAL (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-25/tangled-rusal-ownership-thwarts-easy-end-to-sanctions-quicktake), which is co-owned by another sanctioned Russian oligarch,

Viktor Vekselberg, who attended Trump’s inauguration and

later hired his convicted former personal lawyer Michael Cohen as a lobbyist.

https://washingtonpress.com/2019/01/29/the-house-intelligence-committee-just-announced-a-new-russia-probe-into-the-trump-administration/

So Mnuchin receives $25M from Russian, sham lifts sanctions on Russian

Repugs don't even to avoid the appearance of corruption

[Chris]

:lol Mueller has nothing to do with the way the FBI arrests suspects.

Yeah, perfectly safe to roll up on this guy to arrest him and search his shit.

https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/ih9nflXAKQrAeLRomMpSKnSyw6w=/1400x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/6SZCCN6IUB2GZ2TC5YJ2HMMXUA.jpg

Pooplov is terrified of R:lolger St:lolne.

[Winehole23]

How old are you, man?

[Winehole23]

:rollin

Is that why I am here still posting and you run and hide for a week every time a fake news story you pushed gets shoved back in your face?I know you're a busy man, but you know it sometimes looks that way with you too.

[Pavlov]

Pooplov is terrified of R:lolger St:lolne.
I would be terrified of an old man who is that bad on a range tbh.

[boutons_deux]

Russians are leaking Trump scandals to remind the US president they have leverage over him

we’re learning tonight about yet another undisclosed exchange the president had with Vladimir Putin,” Hayes explained. “It was attended by no American interpreters, just Putin and Putin’s own interpreter.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/russians-leaking-trump-scandals-remind-us-president-leverage-msnbc-panel/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29


================

Trump Busted For New Secret Meeting With Putin At G20

no US translator or notetaker present. It was Trump and Putin discussing foreign policy alone.

According to a Russian government official’s account,

the two spoke for about 15 minutes about a number of foreign policy issues.

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/29/trump-busted-for-new-secret-meeting-with-putin-at-g20.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[Winehole23]

You deflect from the Russia probe by going to Pizzagate. It’s your white flag, own it.You earned it, but yeah, you're the second coming of flaglot, congrats!

I agree it always seems too glib to bother pointing out again, but you're the gift that keeps on giving!

:bobo

[TSA]

I know you're a busy man, but you know it sometimes looks that way with you too.

Oh really, list them.

[TSA]

1090447274654818305

thread

the newest resistance hero to be is DOA

:lol Corsi

[TSA]

1090222704500838406

:cry muh puppet
:cry muh blackmail
:cry muh russia

[Winehole23]

Oh really, list them.So sour!

I was toasting you!

[TSA]

So sour!

I was toasting you!

Excessive use of the exclamation point tonight. Whatcha drinking?

[TSA]

1089699762331217920

a toast to this thread :bobo

[Winehole23]

Excessive use of the exclamation point tonight. Whatcha drinking?Sweet martinis. DELISH.

[DarrinS]

Sweet martinis. DELISH.

Kinda defeats the point of a martini, tbh.

[Winehole23]

Kinda defeats the point of a martini, tbh.I like martinis every which way, but believe it or not a sweet martini is one of the oldest cocktails there is.

[Winehole23]

For a hot second I thought I invented it since I've never seen one ordered or served, but of course that was vanity. It's too basic.

We were out of the dry vermouth was the only reason why I ever tried one.

[Winehole23]

I used Peychaud's, but the classic recipe calls for orange bitters.

[Winehole23]

Chacun a son gout, of course

[djohn2oo8]

TSA is deathly afraid of Bob Mueller.

[djohn2oo8]

Stone’s indictment shook him up.