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clambake
04-13-2018, 04:23 PM
whew lotta anger in here.
RandomGuy
04-13-2018, 04:25 PM
You think this is all that's coming from the OIG report?
The initial memo has 5 different aspects of the investigation and the OIG has now expanded into investigating FISA abuse.
Splits with the LMAO nervous laughter :rollin
Given your track record, I can 100% guarantee no one is nervous. :lol
You are seriously delusional. Someday you may realize just how much, but I will not hold my breath.
RandomGuy
04-13-2018, 04:25 PM
Mueller - Man of integrity.
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https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30713769_1486151764844501_6596523524125360128_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=6e5f529804c1b3efc8495e3cd0709bfe&oe=5B72C57A
RandomGuy
04-13-2018, 04:27 PM
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bullshit he was pushing back. He blamed the other field offices for the leaks he authorized.
"disgrace"
Dear Leaders favorite new word. Trump doesn't need a new lawyer, he needs a thesaurus.
spurraider21
04-13-2018, 04:33 PM
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bullshit he was pushing back. He blamed the other field offices for the leaks he authorized.
take it up with Horowitz, not me
im just going by the OIG Report
According to a person familiar with the probes, on Aug. 12, a senior Justice Department official called Mr. McCabe to voice his displeasure at finding that New York FBI agents were still openly pursuing the Clinton Foundation probe during the election season. Mr. McCabe said agents still had the authority to pursue the issue as long as they didn’t use overt methods requiring Justice Department approvals.
The Justice Department official was “very pissed off,” according to one person close to McCabe, and pressed him to explain why the FBI was still chasing a matter the department considered dormant. . . .
“Are you telling me that I need to shut down a validly predicated investigation?” Mr. McCabe asked, according to people familiar with the conversation.
After a pause, the official replied “Of course not,” these people said.
take it up with Horowitz, not me
im just going by the OIG Report
I'm just going by the OIG report as well
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dar-wvaVAAAD91w.jpg:large
Chris
04-13-2018, 04:38 PM
The Unraveling
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take it up with Horowitz, not me
im just going by the OIG Report
McCabe planted a story in an attempt to cover his own ass.
Chris
04-13-2018, 04:41 PM
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Chris
04-13-2018, 04:43 PM
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damn...shit is moving fast.
RandomGuy
04-13-2018, 05:09 PM
Prosecutors argued that the previously seized emails revealed that Mr. Cohen was “performing little to no legal work, and that zero emails were exchanged with President Trump.” They said their investigation was focused on Mr. Cohen’s business dealings, not his work as a lawyer.
But it is difficult to extract Mr. Cohen from his work for Mr. Trump. For more than a decade, Mr. Trump has unleashed Mr. Cohen on his foes — investigative journalists, business rivals and potential litigants. And the New York search warrant makes clear that the authorities are interested in his unofficial role in the campaign.
Prosecutors demanded all communication with the campaign — and in particular two advisers, Corey Lewandowski and Hope Hicks, according to two people briefed on the warrants.
Prosecutors also seized recordings of conversations that Mr. Cohen had secretly made, but he told people in recent days that he did not tape his conversations with Mr. Trump. Mr. Cohen frequently taped conservations with adversaries and opposing lawyers, according to the two people briefed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/13/us/politics/lawyers-for-trumps-personal-attorney-set-for-friday-court-appearance.html
Cohen is going down in flames.
If he didn't do any real legal work, then most of the stuff they have found is not protected under attorney client privilege. Trumps secrets are going to come spilling out.
spurraider21
04-13-2018, 05:12 PM
I'm just going by the OIG report as well
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dar-wvaVAAAD91w.jpg:large
how does that contradict that mccabe was pushing back to keep the investigation alive despite what appeared to be DOJ pressure?
Chris
04-13-2018, 05:30 PM
DOJ pressure? Looks like they were holding hands to me.
Chris
04-13-2018, 05:30 PM
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Pavlov
04-13-2018, 05:43 PM
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damn...shit is moving fast.Certainly, Comey's book forced them to act.
RandomGuy
04-13-2018, 05:54 PM
Certainly, Comey's book forced them to act.
Comey unchained.
You can't have a guy with that much integrity say those kinds of things unchecked, if you are a Republican.
That is what it has come to.
Honor and integrity are being sacrificed on the altar to save the Republican party.
.
spurraider21
04-13-2018, 06:00 PM
DOJ pressure? Looks like they were holding hands to me.
According to a person familiar with the probes, on Aug. 12, a senior Justice Department official called Mr. McCabe to voice his displeasure at finding that New York FBI agents were still openly pursuing the Clinton Foundation probe during the election season. Mr. McCabe said agents still had the authority to pursue the issue as long as they didn’t use overt methods requiring Justice Department approvals.
The Justice Department official was “very pissed off,” according to one person close to McCabe, and pressed him to explain why the FBI was still chasing a matter the department considered dormant. . . .
“Are you telling me that I need to shut down a validly predicated investigation?” Mr. McCabe asked, according to people familiar with the conversation.
After a pause, the official replied “Of course not,” these people said.
no. DOJ official was pissed that the FBI was still investigating clinton foundation, and mccabe said it is a validly predicated investigation
Chris
04-13-2018, 06:02 PM
Certainly, Comey's book forced them to act.
:lmao
djohn2oo8
04-13-2018, 06:02 PM
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Pavlov
04-13-2018, 06:03 PM
:lmao:lol you think all this is a coincidence?
Chris
04-13-2018, 06:05 PM
Djohn bringing up Stormy Cohen in the Flynn thread now, lawdy!
djohn2oo8
04-13-2018, 06:05 PM
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djohn2oo8
04-13-2018, 06:08 PM
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djohn2oo8
04-13-2018, 06:12 PM
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djohn2oo8
04-13-2018, 06:15 PM
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now confirmed
Pavlov
04-13-2018, 06:15 PM
984927757858721793:lol Det dossier just gets more and more verified.
djohn2oo8
04-13-2018, 06:17 PM
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lol
spurraider21
04-13-2018, 06:24 PM
when Ken Starr was independent counsel investigating clinton, his probe started with the suicide of Vince Foster and the Whitewater real estate deal in arkansas... ended up in clinton being impeached for perjury relating to his affair with monica lewinski.
so this wouldn't be the first time
spurraider21
04-13-2018, 06:26 PM
:lol Det dossier just gets more and more verified.
what happened to
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RandomGuy
04-13-2018, 06:28 PM
:lol Det dossier just gets more and more verified.
Cohen bragged he wasn't. (his passport)
This was the one part of the dossier that was verifiable, but unproven, or seemingly contradicted.
This lends more credibility to the dossier, again.
The dossier says he was in Prague for meetings with Russia, just like Carter Page was, but Cohen's role was much more active.
That is the leg of collusion that would meet most people's definition.
RandomGuy
04-13-2018, 06:33 PM
what happened to
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Mueller happened. Hard to run these things down, but when you are the FBI, you have certain advantages over gumshoe reporters. :D
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article208870264.html
WASHINGTON
The Justice Department special counsel has evidence that Donald Trump’s personal lawyer and confidant, Michael Cohen, secretly made a late-summer trip to Prague during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to two sources familiar with the matter.
Confirmation of the trip would lend credence to a retired British spy’s report that Cohen strategized there with a powerful Kremlin figure about Russian meddling in the U.S. election.
spurraider21
04-13-2018, 07:01 PM
i thought his alibi checked out that he was visiting USC at the time
Chris
04-13-2018, 07:02 PM
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:lol Det dossier just gets more and more verified.
Anonymous sources familiar with the matter from the Mueller investigation you claim doesn’t leak = verified
:lol ok
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Full panic mode.
So they found evidence of Clinton colluding but just kept quiet about until now because?
i thought his alibi checked out that he was visiting USC at the time
Distraction attempt from black hats
spurraider21
04-13-2018, 07:24 PM
Distraction attempt from black hats
looked into it. dossier said he was there in august/september.... his USC alibi only covers a couple days in august iirc
:lol black hats
:lol spooky language
djohn2oo8
04-13-2018, 07:29 PM
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lol
Pavlov
04-13-2018, 07:39 PM
Anonymous sources familiar with the matter from the Mueller investigation you claim doesn’t leak = verified
:lol okWho says this is the Mueller investigation at this point?
Pavlov
04-13-2018, 07:40 PM
racistWhy do you lie about a "y"?
You'll lie about anything.
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Oh Melania. Her cue is up. :lol
Who says this is the Mueller investigation at this point?
The article you quoted while simultaneously claiming it was verified
Pavlov
04-13-2018, 07:42 PM
The article you quoted while simultaneously claiming it was verifiedOh, then it has to do with Russia.
Thanks!
Better check and see what your grocer and dead poet say about that.
Why do you lie about a "y"?
You'll lie about anything.
You must be a blast at social gatherings.
Pavlov
04-13-2018, 07:43 PM
You must be a blast at social gatherings.Do you randomly accuse people of racism at social gatherings after lying about what they said?
Tell me how that's a blast.
Oh, then it has to do with Russia.
Thanks!
Better check and see what your grocer and dead poet say about that.
You’re not making any sense.
Pavlov
04-13-2018, 07:45 PM
You’re not making any sense.Which part did you not understand, TSA?
Do you randomly accuse people of racism at social gatherings after lying about what they said?
Tell me how that's a blast.
You must not get invited to social gatherings.
Pavlov
04-13-2018, 07:47 PM
You must not get invited to social gatherings.You didn't answer the question, but since you want to make it personal, I'll ask again -- do you randomly accuse people of racism at social gatherings after lying about what they said?
Tell me how that's a blast.
Which part did you not understand, TSA?
The part where none of it had to do with a leak from Mueller’s investigation.
You didn't answer the question, but since you want to make it personal, I'll ask again -- do you randomly accuse people of racism at social gatherings after lying about what they said?
Tell me how that's a blast.
You must be really lonely and bored to keep pushing this.
Pavlov
04-13-2018, 07:49 PM
The part where none of it had to do with a leak from Mueller’s investigation.I accepted your explanation, although anything having to do with Cohen could be out of his team's control now that it's a SDNY criminal investigation.
Anything else you don't understand?
Pavlov
04-13-2018, 07:50 PM
You must be really lonely and bored to keep pushing this.You must really be shook to go the personal route with multiple posters today.
It's not unexpected. You do this a lot.
I accepted your explanation, although anything having to do with Cohen could be out of his team's control now that it's a SDNY criminal investigation.
Anything else you don't understand?
The article you quoted specifically said Mueller’s investigation, did you not read it?
Pavlov
04-13-2018, 07:51 PM
The article you quoted specifically said Mueller’s investigation, did you not read it?Yes, Mueller turned over all manner of Cohen evidence to SDNY.
Anything else you don't understand?
I mean you don't believe it anyway, so what?
You must really be shook to go the personal route with multiple posters today.
It's not unexpected. You do this a lot.
You semen shielded for an obvious joke. You either lack a sense of humor or are lonely and bored, or both.
I’m sure spurraider21 will stop by and thank you for clearing his name and letting everyone know he isn’t a racist.
Yes, Mueller turned over all manner of Cohen evidence to SDNY.
Anything else you don't understand?
I mean you don't believe it anyway, so what?
Yes I have another question. How did you know it was verified Cohen went to Prague?
Pavlov
04-13-2018, 07:55 PM
You semen shielded for an obvious joke. You either lack a sense of humor or are lonely and bored, or both.
I’m sure spurraider21 will stop by and thank you for clearing his name and letting everyone know he isn’t a racist.:lol So defensive when you made it personal.
Congratulations again.
Pavlov
04-13-2018, 07:55 PM
Yes I have another question. How did you know it was verified Cohen went to Prague?I'll trust the article as much as you trust your grocer and poet.
rastaspur
04-13-2018, 07:58 PM
So here is the shaznat with the Stormy Daniels thing:
See, there’s no penalty for refusing to incriminate yourself in a criminal case. But in a civil case, it’s different.
Read more at https://wonkette.com/632520/whats-it-called-when-circling-shark-robert-mueller-combines-with-stormy-daniels-tornado#BgxTL5o8yEJyTyCJ.99
Shit that is fucking hilarious.
Pleading the 5th in a civil trial makes you look guilty as fuck. :rollin
It doesnt make you look guilty. It means you are guilty.
Im representing someone right now and thats the only strategy we have. If he were to answer truthfully a criminal case would soon follow.
My client prefers going broke as oppossed to going to prison for fraud.
spurraider21
04-13-2018, 07:58 PM
dude worships 4chan posters for pizza rape conspiracies but has a problem with ABC News using anonymous sources
spurraider21
04-13-2018, 08:04 PM
Yes I have another question. How did you know it was verified Cohen went to Prague?
honestly, would your position on any of this change if it was in fact verified with Cohen went to Prague after all this?
honestly, would your position on any of this change if it was in fact verified with Cohen went to Prague after all this?
Yes my position would change. If it was verified I’d now say two things from the dossier were confirmed.
Were you butthurt I edited your quote to say spook and then called you a racist?
Chris
04-13-2018, 08:10 PM
Full panic mode.
Don't panic, that's just the sound of the Wheels of Justice.
So they found evidence of Clinton colluding but just kept quiet about until now because?
The Clinton Collusion has been common knowledge for quite some time. Now they have evidence. Savvy?
spurraider21
04-13-2018, 08:11 PM
Yes my position would change. If it was verified I’d now say two things from the dossier were confirmed.
Were you butthurt I edited your quote to say spook and then called you a racist?
what do you think?
spurraider21
04-13-2018, 08:12 PM
Don't panic, that's just the sound of the Wheels of Justice.
The Clinton Collusion has been common knowledge for quite some time. Now they have evidence. Savvy?
what was the underlying crime in your clinton collusion theory?
Chris
04-13-2018, 08:18 PM
what was the underlying crime in your clinton collusion theory?
Never said anything about collusion being a crime. Clinton indeed colluded though. This is not a theory and Nunes says we have proof now. These are all facts.
spurraider21
04-13-2018, 08:55 PM
Never said anything about collusion being a crime. Clinton indeed colluded though. This is not a theory and Nunes says we have proof now. These are all facts.
hard to really have collusion unless there's an underlying crime...
otherwise every partner colludes in everything
spurraider21
04-13-2018, 08:55 PM
:bobo
amazing that you can infer answers without direct quotes :bobo
amazing that you can infer answers without direct quotes :bobo
Were you butthurt I edited your quote to say spook and then called you a racist?
spurraider21
04-13-2018, 10:15 PM
Were you butthurt I edited your quote to say spook and then called you a racist?
of course not. you were able to accurately infer that prior to this post, though. congrats
Chris
04-13-2018, 10:23 PM
Kathryn Ruemmler is an interesting person. Look her up. Working behind the scenes with Mueller, she may be a "fixer".
boutons_deux
04-13-2018, 11:36 PM
Exclusive: Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein tells confidantes he is prepared to be fired
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-deputy-ag-rod-rosenstein-tells-confidantes-he-is-prepared-to-be-fired/ar-AAvQYlU
Pavlov
04-13-2018, 11:38 PM
of course not. you were able to accurately infer that prior to this post, though. congrats:lol
No one said spurraider21 was butthurt tbh.
The Clinton Collusion has been common knowledge for quite some time. Now they have evidence. Savvy?
Right. That's why they gave the evidence to Noony Tunes. The guy who sets things straight. :lol Chris
Chris
04-13-2018, 11:44 PM
Right. That's why they gave the evidence to Noony Tunes. The guy who sets things straight. :lol Chris
You backed the wrong horse.
djohn2oo8
04-13-2018, 11:47 PM
You backed the wrong horse.
?
Chris
04-13-2018, 11:54 PM
?
It's called a euphemism.
eu·phe·mism
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noun
a mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing.
"“downsizing” as a euphemism for cuts"
synonyms: polite term, indirect term, circumlocution, substitute, alternative, understatement, genteelism
"'influential person' is the local euphemism for underworld don"
djohn2oo8
04-13-2018, 11:56 PM
It's called a euphemism.
eu·phe·mism
ˈyo͞ofəˌmizəm/Submit
noun
a mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing.
"“downsizing” as a euphemism for cuts"
synonyms: polite term, indirect term, circumlocution, substitute, alternative, understatement, genteelism
"'influential person' is the local euphemism for underworld don"
You know one of the best things of it all, Trump can't pardon his lawyer
https://media.giphy.com/media/3gpfkdQIunv5C/giphy.webp
Chris
04-13-2018, 11:57 PM
You know one of the best things of it all, Trump can't pardon his lawyer
https://media.giphy.com/media/3gpfkdQIunv5C/giphy.webp
Cohen may be working to undermine Trump. I will concede the possibility.
Pavlov
04-14-2018, 02:51 AM
Cohen may be working to undermine Trump. I will concede the possibility.:lmao
djohn2oo8
04-14-2018, 07:38 AM
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lol Russian Spies are never "former"
djohn2oo8
04-14-2018, 08:21 AM
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djohn2oo8
04-14-2018, 11:42 AM
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lol that alias
Chris
04-14-2018, 06:16 PM
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djohn2oo8
04-14-2018, 07:31 PM
*ding*
boutons_deux
04-15-2018, 09:45 AM
SNL Cold Open
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/15/arts/television/snl-robert-de-niro-ben-stiller-john-mulaney.html
boutons_deux
04-15-2018, 10:40 AM
Stormy Daniels' Lawyer Michael Avenatti Drops a Bomb on CNN:
Cohen's Cigar Buddies Have 'Russian Ties'
Avenatti claimed that the men Cohen was seen smoking cigars with outside of a courthouse on Friday afternoon (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/msnbc-panel-analyzes-michael-cohen-nda-industrial-complex-federal-investigation/) had unspecified ties to the Russian government.
"Michael Cohen was videotaped and photographed sitting with a number of men," Avenatti said.
"We believe that a number of those actually had ties, Russian ties, as crazy as that sounds.
This story gets more strange and more strange by the day.
You couldn't make this up if you wanted to."
Tapper seemed taken aback by Avenatti's allegations and pressed him for more details.
"Can you shed more light on what you said?" he asked. "I mean, I saw a picture of one of the people he was sitting with, and he has ties to one particular Russian wealthy individual. What else are you talking about?"
"I don't want to say too much this morning, but you can't make this stuff up," Avenatti replied.
"I don't understand what he is doing, what Michael Cohen's doing with each passing day.
This is getting worse and worse for him and
getting worse and worse for the president."
https://www.alternet.org/stormy-daniels-lawyer-michael-avenatti-drops-bomb-cnn-cohens-cigar-buddies-have-russian-ties
Avenatti is obviously riding his Stormy/Trash/Cohen story into national prominence.
When will Trash tweetshit on Avenatti?
boutons_deux
04-15-2018, 12:42 PM
Guess who else was in Prague when Michael Cohen was there ... (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/13/1756943/-Guess-who-else-was-in-Praque)
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/13/1756943/-Guess-who-else-was-in-Praque?detail=emaildkre
... unproven, but more believable, probable than the unending shit TSA drags in here.
I wonder if Cohen does have two passports?
spurraider21
04-15-2018, 04:27 PM
GOP Rep. Trey Gowdy Defends Michael Cohen Raid: ‘Nothing to Do With Politics’ (https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-rep-trey-gowdy-defends-michael-cohen-raid-nothing-to-do-with-politics?source=articles&via=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thedailybeast%2Farticles+%28T he+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles%29&yptr=yahoo)
A top House Republican on Sunday defended the FBI raid (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/fbi-raids-office-of-trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen.html) on President Donald Trump’s longtime personal attorney Michael Cohen (https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-cohen-may-learn-the-hard-way-that-theres-no-such-thing-as-consigliere-client-privilege)’s home and office last week, as the president continues to assail what he views as a breach of attorney-client privilege.
Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), the chairman of the House Oversight Committee, argued that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein—who is overseeing special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation and has come under heavy criticism from Trump allies—was right to authorize the raid, and that Mueller was just in referring the matter to prosecutors in New York.
“I don’t know what Mueller was supposed to do other than what he did. When a prosecutor comes in contact with information or evidence of a crime, what are you supposed to do, other than refer to the appropriate jurisdiction?” Gowdy said on Fox News Sunday.
Gowdy characterized the approval process for the raid as arduous and fair, adding that it was ultimately given the green light by a “neutral” judge “who has nothing to do with politics.”
Gowdy, who announced recently that he would not seek re-election, has been one of the top GOP defenders (https://www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-to-trump-leave-mueller-alone) of Mueller and his investigation into Russian election meddling and possible collusion between Trump associates and Russian operatives.
“How this is Mueller’s fault just defies logic to me,” the South Carolina Republican added.
Trump has called the Cohen raid which took place a week ago “disgraceful” and “an attack on our country in a true sense,” and on Sunday it was still on the president’s mind.
boutons_deux
04-15-2018, 05:19 PM
US Attorney makes the case that Cohen is a fixer, not an attorney...oh, and they've got the proof (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/13/1756896/-US-Attorney-makes-the-case-that-Cohen-is-a-fixer-not-an-attorney-oh-and-they-ve-got-the-proof)
Cohen is attempting to stop anyone from looking at what was seized in the raid on the grounds of attorney-client privilege.
The USAO-SDNY’s boils down to: he really isn’t acting as a lawyer...he’s Trump’s fixer. This is a direct quote from their filing (https://pacer-documents.s3.amazonaws.com/119/491943/127122241322.pdf):
Cohen claims that the materials seized include “thousands of privileged documents and communications related to numerous clients of Mr. Cohen, as well as Mr. Cohen’s privileged communications with his own attorneys.”
Although the USAO-SDNY and FBI have not yet reviewed the seized materials, there is considerable reason to doubt that assertion….
it is neither apparent
(i) that Cohen, in his capacity as an attorney, has many, or any, attorney-client relationships other than with President Donald Trump (indeed, he does not specifically identify any in his motion and thus far has refused to identify any to the USAO-SDNY),
nor (ii) that the seized communications will include a significant volume of communications with that one identified client.
They proceed to enumerate the reasons.
First “Cohen’s claim that he has confidential communications with multiple clients appears to be exaggerated.
For example, Cohen has told at least one witness that he has only client – President Trump.”
Second, Cohen isn’t really part of the law firm that he says he is.
He has just been keeping an office on their premises since March, 2017.
He keeps no timesheets there, and the firm does not bill anyone for his work.
Then, sadly, there are three redacted lines.
I say “sadly” because the conclusion is “further belying the notion that Cohen is currently engaged in any significant practice of law.
But then comes the really good part:
Fourth, the USAO-SDNY has specific reason to doubt that the seized materials willinclude the volume and nature of attorney-client communications that Cohen claims.
This is because the USAO-SDNY has already obtained search warrants – covert until this point – on multiple different email accounts maintained by Cohen, and has conducted a privilege review of the materials obtained pursuant to those warrants.
The results of that review, as reported by the USAO's Filter Team, indicate that
Cohen is in fact performing little to no legal work, and that zero emails were exchanged with President Trump
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/13/1756896/-US-Attorney-makes-the-case-that-Cohen-is-a-fixer-not-an-attorney-oh-and-they-ve-got-the-proof?detail=emaildkre
Chris
04-15-2018, 05:21 PM
Gotta love Gowdy giving the Libtards lip service while hunting down documents with Nunes.
Chris
04-15-2018, 05:29 PM
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Gotta love Gowdy giving the Libtards lip service while hunting down documents with Nunes.
:lmao
You cant have it both ways, dude.
boutons_deux
04-15-2018, 05:35 PM
‘All lawyers are deflated and concerned!’: Trump panic tweets the FBI may come after his other attorneys
Trump expressed concern the FBI may come after his other attorneys — adding that he has “too many!”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/lawyers-deflated-concerned-trump-panic-tweets-fbi-may-come-attorneys/
The legend of Don The Con Trash will live forever for possessing a reverse-Midas touch, everything touched turns to shit.
Chris
04-15-2018, 05:35 PM
:lmao
You cant have it both ways, dude.
Gowdy playin y'all nigs :lmao
Pavlov
04-15-2018, 05:44 PM
Gowdy playin y'all nigs :lmao:lol white Chris using racist language.
Chris
04-16-2018, 01:55 AM
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Chris
04-16-2018, 01:55 AM
:lol white Chris using racist language.
lol triggered
Pavlov
04-16-2018, 02:10 AM
lol triggeredHow is laughing at your racism being triggered, white Chris?
Mikeanaro
04-16-2018, 02:13 AM
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First they said Trump could not fire him, now he can so they need money to keep the collusion fairy tale going on(¿?)
Sick people.
Pavlov
04-16-2018, 02:15 AM
First they said Trump could not fire him, now he can so they need money to keep the collusion fairy tale going on(¿?)
Sick people.You don't make any sense.
Chris
04-16-2018, 02:24 AM
First they said Trump could not fire him, now he can so they need money to keep the collusion fairy tale going on(¿?)
Sick people.
They don't know whether they are coming or going at this point. DNC's recent bankruptcy has them scrambling!
Pavlov
04-16-2018, 02:30 AM
They don't know whether they are coming or going at this point. DNC's recent bankruptcy has them scrambling!:lol Yet they keep winning those special elections.
boutons_deux
04-16-2018, 09:29 AM
Without mentioning Mueller, Trump lawyers urge high court to bolster his power to fire executive officials
The Supreme Court is set to hear a seemingly minor case later this month on the status of administrative judges at the Securities and Exchange Commission, an issue that normally might only draw the interest of those accused of stock fraud.
But the dispute turns on the president's power to hire and fire officials throughout the government. And it comes just as the White House is saying President Trump believes he has the power to fire special counsel Robert S. Mueller III.
Trump's Solicitor Gen. Noel Francisco intervened in the SEC case to urge the high court to clarify the president's constitutional power to fire all "officers of the United States" who "exercise significant authority" under the law.
"The Constitution gives the president what the framers saw as the traditional means of ensuring accountability: the power to oversee executive officers through removal," he wrote in Lucia vs. SEC.
"The president is accordingly authorized under our constitutional system to remove all principal officers, as well as all 'inferior officers' he has appointed."
In addition to representing the administration before the Supreme Court,
Francisco, a former law clerk for the late Justice Antonin Scalia, could be in line to oversee the Mueller inquiry if Deputy Atty. Gen. Rod Rosenstein is fired.
Atty. Gen Jeff Sessions has recused himself from the investigation.
Peter Shane, a law professor at the Ohio State University, called
Francisco's argument a "radical proposition," and one that goes beyond what is at issue in the case.
The justices said they would focus only on how the SEC in-house judges are appointed. But Francisco is asking them to go further and rule on the "removal" issue.
"The solicitor general is obviously trying to goad the court into a broad statement about the removability of all officers of the United States,"
Shane said.
"Were the court to make any such statement, it would surely be cited by Trump as backing any move by him to fire Mueller directly."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-court-trump-fire-20180415-story.html#nws=mcnewsletter (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-court-trump-fire-20180415-story.html#nws=mcnewsletter)
extreme ideologue oligarchy tool Francisco just one of 100s of attacks on US govt in the oligarchy's coup d'etat to create a one-party authoritarian govt, in classic fascism where the oligarchy/BigCorp power is amalgamated intimately to govt power.
boutons_deux
04-16-2018, 01:24 PM
Donald Trump's attorney seeks to go through seized evidence to pull 'privileged' materials (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/16/1757379/-Hail-Mary-Trump-s-attorney-seeks-to-go-through-seized-evidence-to-pull-privileged-materials)
Late Sunday night, Donald Trump’s new attorney, Joanna Hendon, asked U.S. District Judge Kimba Wood to grant a highly unusual request—
let Michael Cohen pour through it all to pull any evidence they consider to be off-limits due to attorney-client privilege. From the Washington Post: (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-wants-to-review-material-seized-from-personal-lawyer-before-federal-investigators/2018/04/15/c927d9f4-4115-11e8-bba2-0976a82b05a2_story.html?utm_term=.e2ba7ec0615c)
She added that “the president respectfully requests” that the judge issue an order barring the taint team from conducting an initial review of the seized material and require the government to turn over a copy of that material to Cohen’s lawyers.
Then, the president wants the court to direct Cohen “to identify to the president all seized materials that relate to him in any way and to provide a copy of those materials to him and his counsel,” according to the letter.
Any disputes about what material was or wasn’t covered by the attorney-client privilege would then be decided by a judge, under the president’s proposal.
LOL!
They want the person under criminal investigation to have the ability to go through the evidence that was lawfully seized in a criminal investigation and keep it from prosecutors under a pinky swear it is covered by attorney-client privilege.
On Friday, prosecutors went hard, telling Judge Wood that Michael Cohen may not be a lawyer at all. From CNBC: (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/13/prosecutors-slam-trump-lawyer-cohens-hearing-request-in-fbi-raids.html)
But the prosecutors say they have already conducted searches of Cohen's email accounts, "covert until this point,"
which they say "indicate that Cohen is in fact performing little to no legal work, and that
zero emails were exchanged with President Trump." [...]
"(1) Cohen did not have an email address associated with the firm;
(2) Cohen did not have access to the firm's shared drives or document systems—and vice versa;
(3) Cohen's documents were to be kept in a locked filing cabinet; and
(4) Cohen did not have access to any of the firm's client files."
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/16/1757379/-Hail-Mary-Trump-s-attorney-seeks-to-go-through-seized-evidence-to-pull-privileged-materials?detail=emaildkre
boutons_deux
04-16-2018, 04:09 PM
Michael Cohen and the End Stage of the Trump Presidency
I am
unaware of anybody who has taken a serious look at Trump’s business who doesn’t believe that there is a high likelihood of rampant criminality.
In Azerbaijan, he did business with a likely money launderer (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal) for Iran’s Revolutionary Guard.
In the Republic of Georgia, he partnered with a group that was being investigated (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/21/trumps-business-of-corruption) for a possible role in the largest known bank-fraud and money-laundering case in history.
In Indonesia, his development partner is “knee-deep in (http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/12/22/trumps-indonesian-business-partner-is-knee-deep-in-dirty-politics/) dirty politics”;
there are criminal investigations (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-02-15/why-the-trump-organization-was-cited-in-a-brazil-corruption-probe) of his deals in Brazil;
the F.B.I. is reportedly looking (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/03/ivanka-trump-organization-vancouver) into his daughter Ivanka’s role in the Trump hotel in Vancouver, for which she worked with a Malaysian family that has admitted to financial fraud.
Back home, Donald, Jr., and Ivanka were investigated for financial crimes associated with the Trump hotel in SoHo—an investigation that was halted suspiciously (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-ivanka-trump-and-donald-trump-jr-avoided-a-criminal-indictment).
His Taj Mahal casino received what was then the largest fine in history (https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump-taj-mahal-casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long) for money-laundering violations.
Listing all the financial misconduct can be overwhelming and tedious.
I have limited myself to some of the deals over the past decade,
thus ignoring Trump’s long history of links to New York Mafia figures and other financial irregularities.
It has become commonplace to say that enough was known about Trump’s shady business before he was elected;
his followers voted for him precisely because they liked that he was someone willing to do whatever it takes to succeed, and
they also believe that all rich businesspeople have to do shady things from time to time.
In this way of thinking, any new information about his corrupt past has no political salience.
Those who hate Trump already think he’s a crook;
those who love him don’t care.
I believe this assessment is wrong.
Sure, many people have a vague sense of Trump’s shadiness, but once the full details are better known and digested, a fundamentally different narrative about Trump will become commonplace.
The narrative that will become widely understood is that Donald Trump did not sit atop a global empire.
He was not an intuitive genius and tough guy who created billions of dollars of wealth through fearlessness.
He had a small, sad global operation,
mostly run by his two oldest children and
Michael Cohen, a lousy lawyer who barely keeps up the pretenses of lawyering (https://therealdeal.com/2018/04/13/us-attorneys-to-michael-cohen-youre-hardly-a-lawyer/) and
who now faces an avalanche of charges,
from taxicab-backed bank fraud (http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-cohen-taxi-businesses-fbi-raid-investigation-2018-4)
to money laundering and
campaign-finance violations (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-seizes-records-related-to-stormy-daniels-in-raid-of-trump-attorney-michael-cohens-office/2018/04/09/e3e43cf4-3c30-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef_story.html?utm_term=.66738673e3e0).
Cohen, Donald, Jr., and Ivanka monetized their willingness to sign contracts with people rejected by all sensible partners.
It was not a company that built value over decades, accumulating assets and leveraging wealth.
It burned through whatever good will and brand value it established as quickly as possible, then moved on to the next scheme.
There are important legal questions that remain.
How much did Donald Trump and his children know about the criminality of their partners?
How explicit were they in agreeing to put a shiny gold brand on top of corrupt deals?
Trump is raging and furious and terrified.
Prosecutors are now looking at his core.
Cohen was the key intermediary between the Trump family and its partners around the world;
he was chief consigliere and dealmaker throughout its period of expansion into global partnerships with sketchy oligarchs.
He wasn’t a slick politico who showed up for a few months.
He knows everything,
he recorded much of it, and
now prosecutors will know it, too.
It seems inevitable that much will be made public.
it seems likely that, when we look back on this week, we will see it as a turning point.
We are now in the end stages of the Trump Presidency.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/michael-cohen-and-the-end-stage-of-the-trump-presidency?mbid=nl_Daily%20041618&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=13323455&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1381400090&spReportId=MTM4MTQwMDA5MAS2
Godfather Trash's consigliere "Tom" Cohen :lol
Chris
04-17-2018, 02:12 PM
DJr meeting with Russians was a set up. There goes that narrative.
986260523447660545
clambake
04-17-2018, 02:14 PM
whats that ticking sound?
Pavlov
04-17-2018, 02:36 PM
DJr meeting with Russians was a set up. There goes that narrative.
986260523447660545You can always tell it's bullshit when no one wants to claim credit for the article.
lol
Chris
04-17-2018, 03:01 PM
I like this part:
"Here is what we now know, per intelligence gleaned form federal law enforcement sources with insider knowledge of what amounts to a plot by U.S. intelligence agencies to secure back door and illegal wiretaps of President Trump’s associates:
•Six U.S. agencies created a stealth task force, spearhead by CIA’s Brennan, to run domestic surveillance on Trump associates and possibly Trump himself.
•To feign ignorance and to seemingly operate within U.S. laws, the agencies freelanced the wiretapping of Trump associates to the British spy agency GCHQ.
•The decision to insert GCHQ as a back door to eavesdrop was sparked by the denial of two FISA Court warrant applications filed by the FBI to seek wiretaps of Trump associates.
•GCHQ did not work from London or the UK. In fact the spy agency worked from NSA’s headquarters in Fort Meade, MD with direct NSA supervision and guidance to conduct sweeping surveillance on Trump associates.
•The illegal wiretaps were initiated months before the controversial Trump dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele.
•The Justice Department and FBI helped set up the meeting at Trump Tower between Trump Jr., Manafort and Kushner with controversial Russian officials to make Trump’s associates appear compromised.
•Following the Trump Tower sit down, GCHQ began digitally wiretapping Manafort, Trump Jr., and Kushner.
•After the concocted meeting by the Deep State, the British spy agency could officially justify wiretapping Trump associates as an intelligence front for NSA because the Russian lawyer at the meeting Veselnitskaya was considered an international security risk and prior to the June sit down was not even allowed entry into the United States or the UK, federal sources said.
•By using GCHQ, the NSA and its intelligence partners had carved out a loophole to wiretap Trump without a warrant. While it is illegal for U.S. agencies to monitor phones and emails of U.S. citizens inside the United States absent a warrant, it is not illegal for British intelligence to do so. Even if the GCHQ was tapping Trump on U.S. soil at Fort Meade.
•The wiretaps, secured through illicit scheming, have been used by U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe of alleged Russian collusion in the 2016 election, even though the evidence is considered “poisoned fruit.”
Manafort was wiretapped. Cater Page was wiretapped. Trump Jr. was wiretapped. Kushner was wiretapped. Gen. Michael Flynn was wiretapped. And likely there were others.
And none of it was very legal."
Pavlov
04-17-2018, 03:11 PM
•Six U.S. agencies created a stealth task force, spearhead by CIA’s Brennan, to run domestic surveillance on Trump associates and possibly Trump himself.
What are these agencies and what prompted the formation of the task force, white Chris?
:lol Chris really going for that #1 post spot on this thread.
boutons_deux
04-17-2018, 03:31 PM
"Six U.S. agencies created a stealth task force, spearhead by CIA’s Brennan, to run domestic surveillance on Trump associates and possibly Trump himself."
what was "probable cause"?
Russian money had been pouring into Trump org for years,
Manafort and friends paid by Pootin's puppets in Ukraine,
Russian mafiya renting in Trump tower, etc, etc, etc
with Trash, Trash org, Trash mafiya long-time connections to Russian criminal, money-laundering oligarchs who bought real estate from Trash at inflated (money laundering) prices.
Flynn and NRA connected to Russia
Chris
04-17-2018, 03:42 PM
What are these agencies
It's at the beginning of the article. You can't read?
“This was clearly a scheme using Justice (Department) resources and State (Department) resources to get the Russian lawyer into the United States,” one Justice Department insider said. “Who has the power to do this? Only the people at the very top.”
Lynch. Comey. Andrew McCabe. Preet Bhahara. Sally Yates.
And according to high ranking FBI sources, the Bureau played a definitive role in plotting this sweeping privacy breach. But the FBI had much help from the NSA, CIA, the Office of of the Director of National Intelligence, Treasury financial crimes division under DHS, and the Justice Department, federal law enforcement sources confirmed.
and what prompted the formation of the task force, white Chris?
Article clearly states it was spearheaded by Brennan and Obama racist Pavlov.
spurraider21
04-17-2018, 03:57 PM
You can always tell it's bullshit when no one wants to claim credit for the article.
lol
staying anonymous so they dont get Seth Rich'd tbh
Pavlov
04-17-2018, 04:15 PM
It's at the beginning of the article. You can't read?
“This was clearly a scheme using Justice (Department) resources and State (Department) resources to get the Russian lawyer into the United States,” one Justice Department insider said. “Who has the power to do this? Only the people at the very top.”
Lynch. Comey. Andrew McCabe. Preet Bhahara. Sally Yates.
And according to high ranking FBI sources, the Bureau played a definitive role in plotting this sweeping privacy breach. But the FBI had much help from the NSA, CIA, the Office of of the Director of National Intelligence, Treasury financial crimes division under DHS, and the Justice Department, federal law enforcement sources confirmed.Thanks, unfortunately I had posted this several times in non conspiracy format.
And it happened months before Christopher Steele was even hired.
lol
Article clearly states it was spearheaded by Brennan and Obama racist Pavlov.No, what information did the CIA receive that prompted them to reach out to the other agencies, white Chris?
Be specific.
Chris
04-17-2018, 05:16 PM
Thanks, unfortunately I had posted this several times in non conspiracy format.
And it happened months before Christopher Steele was even hired.
lol
No, what information did the CIA receive that prompted them to reach out to the other agencies, white Chris?
Be specific.
The information was Trump was a serious threat to Hillary so they just made shit up.
djohn2oo8
04-17-2018, 05:29 PM
The information was Trump was a serious threat to Hillary so they just made shit up.
Seems like you just made shit up.
Chris
04-17-2018, 05:34 PM
Seems like you just made shit up.
The truth hurts I know.
djohn2oo8
04-17-2018, 05:34 PM
The truth hurts I know.
You supplied no truth or facts. Nothing substantiated.
Chris
04-17-2018, 05:41 PM
You supplied no truth or facts. Nothing substantiated.
You're right I should've checked with Kyle Griffin first.
Pavlov
04-17-2018, 05:42 PM
The information was Trump was a serious threat to Hillary so they just made shit up.No, that's completely wrong.
Try again, white Chris.
There is only one right answer to this. Strange how your anonymous conspiracy site left it out tbh.
djohn2oo8
04-17-2018, 05:43 PM
You're right I should've checked with Kyle Griffin first.
Maybe so.
Chris
04-17-2018, 07:34 PM
986338929652609024
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbA8gY8X0AI7YW8?format=jpg&name=large
Lawdy!
spurraider21
04-17-2018, 07:38 PM
the charge in the tweet is different than the screenshot tbh
Chris
04-17-2018, 07:50 PM
"faces two counts of unauthorized disclosure of national defense information"
spurraider21
04-17-2018, 07:51 PM
"faces two counts of unauthorized disclosure of national defense information"
right. the charge in the PDF is not for an unauthorized disclosure, its unauthorized retention (ie not turning it over when he was supposed to)
my understanding is he was charged with both.
Chris
04-17-2018, 08:00 PM
Maybe one is for disclosure and one is for retention? Either way he's in trouble.
Maybe one is for disclosure and one is for retention? Either way he's in trouble.
LOL he's not going to face actual prison time. Maybe time served and a hefty fine.
clambake
04-17-2018, 08:03 PM
Maybe one is for disclosure and one is for retention? Either way he's in trouble.
gonna get big timeout trouble.
go to the corner.....and stare at the clock.
spurraider21
04-17-2018, 08:13 PM
Maybe one is for disclosure and one is for retention? Either way he's in trouble.
like i said, i think he's charged with both. just pointing out that the tweet and pdf you posted aren't talking about the same thing
Chris
04-17-2018, 09:26 PM
986110019794948097
Horowitz
Chris
04-17-2018, 09:33 PM
Article clearly states it was spearheaded by Brennan and Obama racist Pavlov.
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Chris
04-17-2018, 09:37 PM
986429632139399168
986429632139399168
Yikes. That's really telling him.
You're on notice young man!
djohn2oo8
04-17-2018, 10:13 PM
986439322642583558
986439322642583558
Talk about a soft ball question. Its like, YOU DONT SAY? :lol
djohn2oo8
04-17-2018, 10:19 PM
Talk about a soft ball question. Its like, YOU DONT SAY? :lol
That's really the only question hr can answer in regards to the investigation.
spurraider21
04-17-2018, 10:26 PM
986110019794948097
Horowitz
what are you hoping will be the result of this? who is going down?
Chris
04-18-2018, 11:55 AM
986637977622405122
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djohn2oo8
04-18-2018, 11:57 AM
lol another Chris tweet that will amount to nothing.
Chris
04-18-2018, 12:01 PM
:lmao
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djohn2oo8
04-18-2018, 12:05 PM
What exactly is Chris laughing at?
Chris
04-18-2018, 12:11 PM
986608275578937344
https://m.popkey.co/c0d6e2/Y9KLy.gif
djohn2oo8
04-18-2018, 12:14 PM
Triggered his own self :lol
lol another Chris tweet that will amount to nothing.
The Irony
djohn2oo8
04-18-2018, 12:17 PM
The Irony
Susan Rice says hi.
Susan Rice says hi.
The *ding
djohn2oo8
04-18-2018, 12:21 PM
986620674100822016
lol
986608275578937344
https://m.popkey.co/c0d6e2/Y9KLy.gif
get em Huber
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 12:40 PM
986608275578937344
get em Huber
Boente is one of Trump’s guys dipshit :lol
:lol indeed
djohn2oo8
04-18-2018, 12:53 PM
:lol indeed
lol
boutons_deux
04-18-2018, 01:14 PM
Repug MISgovernance amounts to blocking all legislative progress for the lower 80%, while attacking any and all non-Repugs with bogus crimes.
Chris
04-18-2018, 02:21 PM
get em Huber
Might not need Huber imo Comey may throw everyone under the bus before it's all said and done.
986682785355259905
Chris
04-18-2018, 02:44 PM
xOIOshRK_JM
spurraider21
04-18-2018, 03:08 PM
Gotta love Gowdy giving lip service to Trumptards
Chris
04-18-2018, 03:22 PM
Gotta love people stealing my shit
Gotta love the direction this thread is taking
spurraider21
04-18-2018, 03:25 PM
Gotta love the direction this thread is taking
has Flynn withdrawn his guilty plea yet?
according to your girl Sarah Carter, Mueller turned over all the evidence 3 weeks ago :lol
Chris
04-18-2018, 03:30 PM
has Flynn withdrawn his guilty plea yet?
Serious question for you since you're a lawyer.
Do you think there is exculpatory evidence and if there is none how does that factor in to the verdict/sentencing etc..? Non partisan assessment please.
Chris
04-18-2018, 03:33 PM
Interesting you edited in that next sentence after I posted. :lol
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 03:34 PM
Gotta love the direction this thread is taking
Boente is one of Trump’s guys dipshit :lol
Chris
04-18-2018, 03:38 PM
Is Mueller a Trump guy since he's a 'Republican' racist Pavlov?
spurraider21
04-18-2018, 03:43 PM
Serious question for you since you're a lawyer.
Do you think there is exculpatory evidence and if there is none how does that factor in to the verdict/sentencing etc..? Non partisan assessment please.
a) Unless we've seen the prosecution's file, it's hard to know what evidence does and doesn't exist.
b) In the context of a case where the charge is making false statements to the FBI, nobody knows better than Flynn if he lied or not, so I'm having a pretty hard time thinking of what exculpatory evidence could even exist for a charge like that.
c) There's been zero movement on the case that would indicate a plea withdrawal or anything like that is even in the works. From my understanding, Flynn's team has had access to all of the evidence since the parties entered their stipulated motion back in February. If there was exculpatory information, Flynn's team would have seen it by now, and he would have stopped cooperating and taken steps to withdraw his plea by now.
So in conclusion, as Flynn's team has had access to everything for well over a month now (even Sarah Carter reported over 3 weeks ago that all the documents had been provided), and we've heard absolutely nothing about a change in their arrangement, it's a pretty safe bet that there is no noteworthy exculpatory evidence, or at least not enough to exonerate Flynn.
spurraider21
04-18-2018, 03:43 PM
Interesting you edited in that next sentence after I posted. :lol
was probably happening at the same time tbh :lol...
spurraider21
04-18-2018, 03:45 PM
Is Mueller a Trump guy since he's a 'Republican' racist Pavlov?
I would hope that there are people in government/law enforcement that don't approach their jobs in a blindly partisan manner... ie a republican prosecutor that always lets republicans go, or always over-zealously targets democrats, and vice-versa
so yeah its very possible for mueller to be a republican but not allow his political views to get in the way of his job/duties
a) Unless we've seen the prosecution's file, it's hard to know what evidence does and doesn't exist.
b) In the context of a case where the charge is making false statements to the FBI, nobody knows better than Flynn if he lied or not, so I'm having a pretty hard time thinking of what exculpatory evidence could even exist for a charge like that.
c) There's been zero movement on the case that would indicate a plea withdrawal or anything like that is even in the works. From my understanding, Flynn's team has had access to all of the evidence since the parties entered their stipulated motion back in February. If there was exculpatory information, Flynn's team would have seen it by now, and he would have stopped cooperating and taken steps to withdraw his plea by now.
So in conclusion, as Flynn's team has had access to everything for well over a month now (even Sarah Carter reported over 3 weeks ago that all the documents had been provided), and we've heard absolutely nothing about a change in their arrangement, it's a pretty safe bet that there is no noteworthy exculpatory evidence, or at least not enough to exonerate Flynn.
If the 302's were changed, as reported as what Sara Carter was told from sources, I wouldn't expect anything to be leaking out of the Flynn case as those 302's would be evidence in a criminal investigation.
spurraider21
04-18-2018, 04:05 PM
If the 302's were changed, as reported as what Sara Carter was told from sources, I wouldn't expect anything to be leaking out of the Flynn case as those 302's would be evidence in a criminal investigation.
they don't have to leak anything. Flynn could still be taking steps in withdrawing his guilty plea without leaking the evidence to the public. it's not like you would be required to remain guilty indefinitely :lol
the docket shows nothing https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6234142/united-states-v-flynn/
they could keep the pleadings sealed if there was some concern, but they'd still be posted as something. all we have is a bunch of denials for third parties trying to file on Flynn's behalf, probably just political activists who think he's actually getting exonerating, but needs their help!
spurraider21
04-18-2018, 04:09 PM
:lol best ones
LEAVE TO FILE DENIED- Emergency Moton to Intervene Filed on Behalf of all Americans
LEAVE TO FILE DENIED-Letter Regarding the Passing of Stephen Hawking
LEAVE TO FILE DENIED- Mankind's Death Certificate was Signed on October 12, 2050 with not so much asa Whimper. as to MICHAEL T. FLYNN
Chris
04-18-2018, 04:28 PM
I would hope that there are people in government/law enforcement that don't approach their jobs in a blindly partisan manner... ie a republican prosecutor that always lets republicans go, or always over-zealously targets democrats, and vice-versa
so yeah its very possible for mueller to be a republican but not allow his political views to get in the way of his job/duties
Who is Aaron Zebley? He worked for Mueller at WilmerHale and is currently on Mueller's special goon squad investigating Trump. Also served as Mueller's chief of staff while he was FBI director. Why does that matter? Zebley recently represented Justin Cooper. Who is Justin Cooper? Cooper testified he set up Hillary's private server. ("but her emails") He also used a hammer to destroy her mobile devices so the FBI couldn't acquire them during Comey's 'thorough' investigation into HRC. Are you connecting the dots yet?
spurraider21
04-18-2018, 04:44 PM
Who is Aaron Zebley? He worked for Mueller at WilmerHale and is currently on Mueller's special goon squad investigating Trump. Also served as Mueller's chief of staff while he was FBI director. Why does that matter? Zebley recently represented Justin Cooper. Who is Justin Cooper? Cooper testified he set up Hillary's private server. ("but her emails") He also used a hammer to destroy her mobile devices so the FBI couldn't acquire them during Comey's 'thorough' investigation into HRC. Are you connecting the dots yet?
yeah, this is kind of the thing im talking about. your assumption is that everybody here is completely controlled by a political ideology. lawyer's represent people all the time without sharing their views. criminal defense attorneys dont condone the criminal acts of their clients.
if this guy was mueller's chief of staff and also worked for him in private practice, then he's somebody mueller trusts as competent.
liQxGN_RS00
When you're on the View for a softball interview and you find out members of congress have referred you to the Attorney General for a criminal investigation :rollin
https://m.popkey.co/c0d6e2/Y9KLy.gif
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 05:11 PM
liQxGN_RS00
When you're on the View for a softball interview and you find out members of congress have referred you to the Attorney General for a criminal investigation :rollin
https://m.popkey.co/c0d6e2/Y9KLy.gif Didn't they didn't that for Steele too?
Where are those charges, TSA?
djohn2oo8
04-18-2018, 05:11 PM
Didn't they didn't that for Steele too?
Where are those charges, TSA?
:lmao TSA
boutons_deux
04-18-2018, 05:12 PM
What will Congressional Repugs do when Trash fires Rosenstein and Mueller?
Bitch McC has blocked the bipartisan bill to protect Comey.
I think the Repugs will just shrug and keep trashing Comey, the FBI, the CIA, deep state and keep protecting/enabling/enriching themselves and oligarchy.
Chris
04-18-2018, 05:27 PM
Comey squirming around on the View :lol
"That's a very good question"
You can tell by his facial expressions he's uncomfortable maybe even angry.
djohn2oo8
04-18-2018, 05:35 PM
Comey squirming around on the View :lol
"That's a very good question"
You can tell by his facial expressions he's uncomfortable maybe even angry.
White Chris triggered.
Chris
04-18-2018, 05:40 PM
White Chris triggered.
Dude you're all out of sorts, that didn't make any sense.
djohn2oo8
04-18-2018, 05:42 PM
Dude you're all out of sorts, that didn't make any sense.
Comey's got Chris triggered.
Chris
04-18-2018, 05:52 PM
Gorka
9B1U_2braJU
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 05:57 PM
Is Mueller a Trump guy since he's a 'Republican' racist Pavlov?It's TSA's designation, white Chris. Take it up with him.
Looks like he's avoiding his declarations now, however.
lol
Chris
04-18-2018, 06:00 PM
It's TSA's designation, white Chris. Take it up with him.
Looks like he's avoiding his declarations now, however.
lol
Passing the buck I see.
Another variation of a predictable white flag.
lol
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 06:04 PM
Passing the buck I see.
Another variation of a predictable white flag.
lolIt's not my characterization, white flag Chris.
It's TSA's.
if you want to get pissy about it -- and you always do -- Mueller is the United States of America's guy.
You should be proud of him and his service to the country.
djohn2oo8
04-18-2018, 06:28 PM
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djohn2oo8
04-18-2018, 06:37 PM
986748769118162944
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 06:42 PM
986747456401694721
986748769118162944
But Trump never did anything wrong, so why would Cohen's turning on him matter?
Right?
boutons_deux
04-18-2018, 06:43 PM
So Tom is becoming Salvatore Tessio
"Tell <Trash, Jared, etc >, it was only business"
Didn't they didn't that for Steele too?
Where are those charges, TSA?
Pavlov when asked a year into the investigation when Trump/Russia collusion charges will be brought...”these investigations take time”
Pavlov three months after Steele gets criminal referral...”where are those Steele charges”
:lol so shook
It's TSA's designation, white Chris. Take it up with him.
Looks like he's avoiding his declarations now, however.
lol
I said I don’t know where Mueller stands. Why do you constantly just make shit up?
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 06:51 PM
Pavlov when asked a year into the investigation when Trump/Russia collusion charges will be brought...”these investigations take time”
Pavlov three months after Steele gets criminal referral...”where are those Steele charges”
:lol so shookWhere's the Steele criminal investigation?
I appreciate all the relevant links you have to it.
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 06:53 PM
I said I don’t know where Mueller stands. Why do you constantly just make shit up?Of course you said Mueller was working for Trump before you said you don't know.
And you used the label you used for Boente.
What happened to that, TSA?
Where you totally wrong about Boente?
Where's the Steele criminal investigation?
I appreciate all the relevant links you have to it.
I said criminal referral. Stop mashing F5 and take the time to read.
Of course you said Mueller was working for Trump before you said you don't know.
And you used the label you used for Boente.
What happened to that, TSA?
Where you totally wrong about Boente?
What has Boente been charged with?
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 06:56 PM
I said criminal referral. Stop mashing F5 and take the time to read.It's been three months since the referral.
Wouldn't a criminal investigation be the next step, TSA?
What are you saying will happen next?
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 06:57 PM
What has Boente been charged with?:lmao playing stupid.
You just cheered a Boente criminal referral.
But you said Boente is Trump's guy.
Which is it, TSA?
:lol TSA so shook.
:lmao playing stupid.
You just cheered a Boente criminal referral.
But you said Boente is Trump's guy.
Which is it, TSA?
:lol TSA so shook.
I still say Boente is a Trump guy. I’m not concerned he was named in the referral—guilt by association doesn’t mean much to Huber.
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 07:03 PM
I still say Boente is a Trump guy. I’m not concerned he was named in the referral—guilt by association doesn’t mean much to Huber.So the referrals are essentially meaningless!
Thank you for your opinion they are worthless. I agree.
It's been three months since the referral.
Wouldn't a criminal investigation be the next step, TSA?
What are you saying will happen next?
Back when the referral was made I told you it was to put the FBI on notice since Grassley saw conflicting statements in Steele’s ongoing lawsuit and what the FBI said Steele did. The referral was to bring to light who lied, Steele or the FBI. You should have all of this in your ST notebook, did you lose it?
spurraider21
04-18-2018, 07:06 PM
Back when the referral was made I told you it was to put the FBI on notice since Grassley saw conflicting statements in Steele’s ongoing lawsuit and what the FBI said Steele did. The referral was to bring to light who lied, Steele or the FBI. You should have all of this in your ST notebook, did you lose it?
you have to admit it's pretty tough to keep track of your daily evolving conspiracy theory
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 07:07 PM
Back when the referral was made I told you it was to put the FBI on notice since Grassley saw conflicting statements in Steele’s ongoing lawsuit and what the FBI said Steele did. The referral was to bring to light who lied, Steele or the FBI. You should have all of this in your ST notebook, did you lose it?Steele's ongoing lawsuit?
Could you direct me to that case? Tell me all about it.
Or do you just want to make it personal now?
That's how I can tell you're shook.
So the referrals are essentially meaningless!
Thank you for your opinion they are worthless. I agree.
You can keep your head in the sand as long as you wish. Those named in the referrals would disagree with your take as witnessed by their actions of throwing each other under the bus every chance they get.
you have to admit it's pretty tough to keep track of your daily evolving conspiracy theory
When is your bday? I’ll send you a ST notebook.
Chucho
04-18-2018, 07:15 PM
Steele's ongoing lawsuit?
Could you direct me to that case? Tell me all about it.
Or do you just want to make it personal now?
That's how I can tell you're shook.
"Personal". LOL.
Steele's ongoing lawsuit?
Could you direct me to that case? Tell me all about it.
Or do you just want to make it personal now?
That's how I can tell you're shook.
Gubarev is suing Steele. You for sure lost your ST notebook.
You can keep your head in the sand as long as you wish. Those named in the referrals would disagree with your take as witnessed by their actions of throwing each other under the bus every chance they get.
Back that bus up McCabe isn’t done with Comey
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Comey’s revving his bus engine, he’s not finished.
“I ordered that investigation”
:bobo
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Former FBI Director Andrew McCabe is locked in a battle of “he said-he said” with his former boss, James Comey, over the findings of a damning report from the Justice Department’s office of the inspector general (OIG).
McCabe’s lawyer, Michael Bromwich, issued a statement on Wednesday casting doubt on Comey and the OIG’s report, which was released April 13.
“The report fails to adequately address the evidence (including sworn testimony) and documents that prove that Mr. McCabe advised Director Comey repeatedly that he was working with The Wall Street Journal on the stories in question prior to publication,” Bromwich said in a statement CNN published.
“Neither Mr. Comey nor the OIG is infallible, and in this case, neither of them has it right.”
Earlier on Wednesday, Comey confirmed he ordered the opening of the inspector general’s investigation that uncovered McCabe’s involvement in a leak to The Wall Street Journal for an article published just before the 2016 election.
The office of the inspector general, led by Michael Horowitz, accused McCabe of a “lack of candor” during interviews with investigators about the leak. McCabe lied about authorizing the leak on at least four separate occasions — in interviews with OIG investigators, interviews with the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR), and in conversations with Comey, investigators determined.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions fired McCabe on March 16 based on a recommendation from OPR.
McCabe has acknowledging authorizing his general counsel and an official in the FBI’s office of public affairs to speak with a Journal reporter for an article about the various investigations into Hillary Clinton. The bureau was investigating the Clinton Foundation, the FBI attorney revealed for the first time to The Journal.
As FBI No. 2, McCabe was authorized to reveal the existence of investigations if it served the public interest, but McCabe authorized the leak “in a manner designed to advance his personal interests at the expense of Department leadership,” the OIG determined.
Though McCabe authorized the leaks to The Journal, he admonished two FBI officials over the leaks, the report also reveals.
McCabe informed Comey he was authorizing a subordinate to speak with the Journal, the former FBI director told the OIG. McCabe has email exchanges supportorting that claim, Michael Bromwich, McCabe’s attorney, said.
Comey has told a different story.
McCabe “definitely did not tell me that he authorized” the leak, Comey told OIG investigators, according to the OIG report.
“I don’t remember exactly how, but I remember some form or fashion, and it could have been like ‘can you believe this crap? How does this stuff get out’ kind of thing?” Comey said in the interview, adding he “took from whatever communication we had that he wasn’t involved in it.”
Comey offered a scathing rebuke of McCabe on Thursday, during an appearance on ABC’s “The View.”
“It’s not okay. The McCabe case illustrates what an organization committed to the truth looks like,” Comey said and added, “I ordered that investigation.”
“Good people lie. I think I’m a good person, where I have lied,” he continued. “I still believe Andrew McCabe is a good person, but the inspector general found he lied.”
Comey’s damning statements about McCabe would seem to contradict support he offered his former subordinate in a tweet on Jan. 29, 2018.
“Special Agent Andrew McCabe stood tall over the last 8 months, when small people were trying to tear down an institution we all depend on. He served with distinction for two decades. I wish Andy well. I also wish continued strength for the rest of the FBI. America needs you,” Comey tweeted in response to comments that President Trump made about McCabe earlier that day.
http://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/04/18/andrew-mccabe-james-comey/?__twitter_impression=true
Figured the 11 random house republicans asking DOJ to prosecute Hillary and 10 other top people would get TSA out of the rock he's been hiding under the past week after being butt fucked.
:lol Chris and TSA getting false hope.
:cry muh 11 republicans will deliver me
djohn2oo8
04-18-2018, 10:01 PM
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lol shook
Chris
04-18-2018, 10:25 PM
lol "consigliere"
lol anonymous sources
lol WaPo
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 10:27 PM
lol TSA hoping for FBI raids on someone other than team Trump.
Except maybe Boente. TSA has no fucking idea whether to cheer or hide from det one.
Chris
04-18-2018, 10:30 PM
Pavlov begging for another 'HQ Special' :lol
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 10:34 PM
Pavlov begging for another 'HQ Special' :lol
lol I don't care if they all go to jail.
They have to be investigated first though.
Keep praying for that.
lol TSA hoping for FBI raids on someone other than team Trump.
Except maybe Boente. TSA has no fucking idea whether to cheer or hide from det one.
Hell, he's propping up Comey now. :lmao
lol I don't care if they all go to jail.
They have to be investigated first though.
Keep praying for that.
:rollin Horowitz and his team of 400 have been investigating for over a year you fuckstick
:rollin Horowitz and his team of 400 have been investigating for over a year you fuckstick
So Comey told Horowitz to start an investigation on Comey himself? :lol
So Comey told Horowitz to start an investigation on Comey himself? :lol
You aren’t making any sense. Log off, try again tomorrow.
You aren’t making any sense. Log off, try again tomorrow.
From your own link:
“It’s not okay. The McCabe case illustrates what an organization committed to the truth looks like,” Comey said and added, “I ordered that investigation.”
That's the OIG report. And the only one that has been going on for a while.
You claimed "horowitz and his team of 400 (:lol) have been investigating Hillary, McCabe, Comey and 8 others for over a year. So if it's not the OIG which Comey himself prompted Howoritz to start, of which investigation that pertains to the 11 people are you talking about?
Provide proof. Or at least a link about it.
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 11:21 PM
:rollin Horowitz and his team of 400 have been investigating for over a year you fuckstick
lol that's a review.
You might want to see how the last one went before you get too excited tbh.
From your own link:
That's the OIG report. And the only one that has been going on for a while.
You claimed "horowitz and his team of 400 (:lol) have been investigating Hillary, McCabe, Comey and 8 others for over a year. So if it's not the OIG which Comey himself prompted Howoritz to start, of which investigation that pertains to the 11 people are you talking about?
Provide proof. Or at least a link about it.
:lol provide proof. How bout no. You’re just too fucking stupid to waste the time on. Your refuting claims never made and are making no sense.
lol that's a review.
You might want to see how the last one went before you get too excited tbh.
:lol review got you shook
Pavlov begging for another 'HQ Special' :lol
calm down and don’t get excited it’s just a standard nothingburger review
:rollin Horowitz and his team of 400 have been investigating for over a year you fuckstick
:lol provide proof. How bout no. You’re just too fucking stupid to waste the time on. Your refuting claims never made and are making no sense.
:lmao too stupid to realize when he makes claims or not. :lmao
:cry Not gonna waste my time with you, but I will reply to you tho. :lol
:lol Begging the public for a $500,000 legal defense fund because of a review
:lmao too stupid to realize when he makes claims or not. :lmao
:cry Not gonna waste my time with you, but I will reply to you tho. :lol
You really are low fucking IQ. I don’t need to provide proof you have no clue what you’re saying as you are doing it for me.
Pavlov
04-18-2018, 11:41 PM
:lol review got you shook
Nope. I don't care if they all go to jail.
Let me know when something other than a review starts.
Keep praying.
lol
You really are low fucking IQ. I don’t need to provide proof you have no clue what you’re saying as you are doing it for me.
Dodge #2
Reply #2
Too much of a pussy to give his proof that said persons are being investigated. :lol
Nope. I don't care if they all go to jail.
Let me know when something other than a review starts.
Keep praying.
lol
If you don’t care if they go to jail why waste so much of your life saying they won’t go to jail?
Dodge #2
Reply #2
Too much of a pussy to give his proof that said persons are being investigated. :lol
:lol self inflicted wound #4
:lol no clue what investigation is being discussed
Pavlov
04-19-2018, 12:49 AM
If you don’t care if they go to jail why waste so much of your life saying they won’t go to jail?lol personal
It's fun watching you get so shook.
Your side is behind when it comes to actual investigations and FBI raids.
You can't even make up your mind and mind about Mueller.
Stay on det fence about him. Best place for you tbh.
lol personal
It's fun watching you get so shook.
Your side is behind when it comes to actual investigations and FBI raids.
You can't even make up your mind and mind about Mueller.
Stay on det fence about him. Best place for you tbh.
:lol like a cheap lawn chair
Pavlov
04-19-2018, 01:02 AM
:lol like a cheap lawn chair
What are you even trying to get say at this point?
What do you think about Mueller?
Be specific.
:lol self inflicted wound #4
:lol no clue what investigation is being discussed
:lol Horowitz and his 400 person team are on it.
:lol pizza boy and self made conspiratard talking about IQs.
:lol Boente
:lol Susan Rice
:lol shook
boutons_deux
04-19-2018, 07:25 AM
New York Attorney General Pushes To Sidestep Any Trump Pardons
“Presidents have used this power sparingly, largely to do justice, rather than subvert it,” Eric Schneiderman writes.
New York’s attorney general has asked officials to change state law so President Donald Trump (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/donald-trump)’s aides can be tried for any criminal acts committed in the state, even if they have been given a presidential pardon.
In a letter sent (https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/letter_from_ag.pdf) to New York’s top lawmakers, including Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo, Attorney General Eric Schneiderman (D) said that he was troubled by Trump’s frequent discussion of his ability to issue pardons (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/28/us/politics/trump-pardon-michael-flynn-paul-manafort-john-dowd.html) and that
he was worried those who had committed crimes in the state would escape prosecution.
New York has a double jeopardy law that prevents individuals from being charged with the same crime twice, even if the charges originated at the federal level.
“New York’s statutory protections could result in the unintended and unjust consequence of insulating someone pardoned for serious federal crimes from subsequent prosecution for state crimes,” Schneiderman wrote in the letter, dated April 18.
“Even if that person was never tried or convicted in federal court, and never served a single day in federal prison.”
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-york-attorney-general-trump-pardons_us_5ad80c11e4b029ebe020e310?utm_medium=ema il&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__041918&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__041918+CID_4be29d98 743aa8cc847595da57fb3dfc&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__041918
djohn2oo8
04-19-2018, 08:30 AM
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TSA holds another L
dabom
04-19-2018, 08:33 AM
:lol
DarrinS
04-19-2018, 08:37 AM
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TSA holds another L
Why does fake news give TSA an L?
djohn2oo8
04-19-2018, 08:43 AM
Why does fake news give TSA an L?
Which part is fake news Darrin? Be specific.
DarrinS
04-19-2018, 08:48 AM
Which part is fake news Darrin? Be specific.
Cohen in Prague
djohn2oo8
04-19-2018, 08:49 AM
Cohen in Prague
If he didn't go to Prague then he should continue his suit. But he isn't. Hmmmm maybe because he went to Prague, and it would open him up to more litigation and questions if he continued his suit?
DarrinS
04-19-2018, 08:53 AM
If he didn't go to Prague then he should continue his suit. But he isn't. Hmmmm maybe because he went to Prague, and it would open him up to more litigation and questions if he continued his suit?
Or, maybe it’s very easy to verify that he was in the US at the time of alleged Prague trip?
DarrinS
04-19-2018, 08:54 AM
Perhaps Cohen dropped his lawsuit because he has more urgent matters to attend to. :lol
djohn2oo8
04-19-2018, 08:55 AM
Or, maybe it’s very easy to verify that he was in the US at the time of alleged Prague trip?
So why drop a suit that he could win if that was the case? lol
djohn2oo8
04-19-2018, 08:56 AM
Perhaps Cohen dropped his lawsuit because he has more urgent matters to attend to. :lol
:lmao sure Jan
djohn2oo8
04-19-2018, 09:00 AM
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lol innocent people don't need to worry about things like this.
dabom
04-19-2018, 09:00 AM
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lol innocent people don't need to worry about things like this.
:lol
boutons_deux
04-19-2018, 09:38 AM
Grassley defying I-am-the-man Bitch McC and going to vote on the "protect mueller from Trash" bill
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