Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[boutons_deux]

somebody tackle this.


think, trump ends up shitting on everyone except his family. how many years would someone do for trump?

not only years, but $Ms in restitution to IRS.

[clambake]

it would be great if they nailed some dems.


then everyone would want mueller fired.

[boutons_deux]

It sure looks like there was collusion between the Trump operation and Russia

Look at the whole story and tell me this isn't suspicious.

Two things are true about the indictments (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/31/16125776/paul-manafort-russia-trump-mueller) unsealed (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/30/16571548/george-papadopoulos-guilty-plea) by special counsel Bob Mueller Monday:



They don’t provide a “smoking gun” proving collusion between Donald Trump’s operation and Russia.
They make it almost impossible to believe that there wasn’t collusion between Trump’s operation and Russia.


The Trump campaign was filled with operatives (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/31/16125776/paul-manafort-russia-trump-mueller) connected in shady ways to the Russian government.

It included individuals who knew (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/30/16571548/george-papadopoulos-guilty-plea) that the Russians had obtained Clinton-related emailsand who lied about that knowledge to federal investigators.

Top campaign officials (and Trump family members) dropped everything (https://www.vox.com/2017/7/11/15953204/donald-trump-jr-emails-russia) to meet with Russian operatives when they believed there was useful opposition research on offer.

Trump publicly asked (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html) Russia to hack into Clinton’s computers to find and release her missing emails.

We also know the Russians really did hack into (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/) John Podesta’s and the DNC’s email accounts and found and released emails that damaged Clinton.

They really did conduct social media operations designed help Trump.

Both their targets and their timing were extremely sophisticated (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/11/15952666/russia-dnc-hacks-timing) for a foreign government that has traditionally shown itself to have a poor understanding of American politics.

After winning the White House, Trump attacked the CIA and fired the director of the FBI (https://www.vox.com/2017/5/11/15628276/trump-comey-fired-russia) in an effort to discredit or end their investigations into Russia’s role in the election.

At this point, it would be a truly remarkable coincidence if two entities that had so many ties to each other,

that had so much information about what the other was doing, and

that were working so hard toward the same goal never found a way to coordinate.

1) Russia stole Democratic emails. US intelligence agencies have confirmed (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/) that emails from the Democratic National Committee and from Clinton campaign chair John Podesta were stolen by Russian hackers. The emails were ultimately released in a smartly sequenced way to maximize damage to Hillary Clinton.

2) At least one Trump adviser knew of the theft in advance, and lied about it. Shortly after the emails were hacked, George Papadopoulos, one of Trump’s five listed foreign policy advisers, was told of their existence by a Russian professor whom he knew to have deep contacts in the Russian government. Papadopoulos subsequently lied to investigators about the timing of the revelation.

3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager, was a paid operative of a Russia-linked political party in Ukraine.

4) In June 2016, Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort met with a Russian operative who promised them dirt on Clinton. The email (https://www.vox.com/2017/7/11/15953204/donald-trump-jr-emails-russia) Trump Jr. received was crystal clear.

5) In July 2016, Trump publicly asked the Russian government to find and release other emails Clinton deleted.

6) Russians released emails to help Trump, planted fake news and social media bots to help Trump, and tried to hack election systems in 21 states. What’s most striking about the Russian operations on Trump’s behalf is how sophisticated they were about American politics (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/11/15952666/russia-dnc-hacks-timing).

7) After being elected president, Donald Trump fired the director of the FBI to end his investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 election. President Trump has certainly acted like someone with much to fear from the various investigations into Russia’s role in the election.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions’s habit of forgetting meetings with Russian officials,

notably pro-Russian policy positions Trump adopted during the campaign

it would truly be remarkable if all this happened and yet the two sides never explicitly worked together.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/30/16571114/trump-russia-mueller-indictments-manafort-gates-papadopolous (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/30/16571114/trump-russia-mueller-indictments-manafort-gates-papadopolous)

[TSA]

Tony feeling the heat

Tony Podesta stepping down from lobbying giant amid Mueller probe
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/30/tony-podesta-stepping-down-from-lobbying-giant-amid-mueller-probe-244314

[TSA]

Tony feeling the heat

Tony Podesta stepping down from lobbying giant amid Mueller probe
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/30/tony-podesta-stepping-down-from-lobbying-giant-amid-mueller-probe-244314

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-probe-appears-to-hit-democratic-powerhouses-too

[Splits]

925063641870856192

[monosylab1k]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-probe-appears-to-hit-democratic-powerhouses-too

It’s not your fault. It’s not your fault.

https://norasjourneyearlyonsetcongenitalscoliosis.files.wo rdpress.com/2015/04/grief1.jpg

[monosylab1k]

925063641870856192

Flynn, Page, Kushner, & oh hell let’s throw TSA a bone and say Podesta.

[Pavlov]

Tony feeling the heat

Tony Podesta stepping down from lobbying giant amid Mueller probe
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/30/tony-podesta-stepping-down-from-lobbying-giant-amid-mueller-probe-244314


https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-probe-appears-to-hit-democratic-powerhouses-tooWait, does this have to do with Russian collusion?

Yes or no.

[baseline bum]

925063641870856192

Prob Clinton, Podesta, Obama, and Soros.

[Reck]

Tony feeling the heat

Tony Podesta stepping down from lobbying giant amid Mueller probe
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/30/tony-podesta-stepping-down-from-lobbying-giant-amid-mueller-probe-244314


https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-probe-appears-to-hit-democratic-powerhouses-too

LOL TSA grasping.

Papadoupoulos plea deal is a gem.

925057237420314624

The Trump campaign was deep in Russian ties. They're all fucked.

[djohn2oo8]

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[Pavlov]

925063641870856192Geez. The Mensch loons were right.

[Trill Clinton]

Prob DeRay, Podesta, Obama, and Soros.

Fixed

[Reck]

925083291954360320

Yep, Manafort and this guy Gates will sing.

[monosylab1k]

925083291954360320

In a few weeks Pence will pay Manafort a visit and give him the “Tom Hagen/Frank Pentangeli” talk from Godfather Part 2.

[RandomGuy]

somebody tackle this.


think, trump ends up shitting on everyone except his family. how many years would someone do for trump?

very little. Trump will throw anybody under the bus the instant they say anything bad. He is his own worst enemy.

[RandomGuy]

Tony feeling the heat

Tony Podesta stepping down from lobbying giant amid Mueller probe
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/30/tony-podesta-stepping-down-from-lobbying-giant-amid-mueller-probe-244314

Do the charges against Manafort give leverage to prosecutors for charges that deal with colluding with Russian during the election, yes or no?

[RandomGuy]

Trump Ally Roger Stone Suspended From Twitter


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-ally-roger-stone-suspended-011729521.html

What a meltdown. Shows the quality of Trump's defenders, tbh.

[Chris]

I think you're really overselling this djohn. I bet it's just Manafort tomorrow. Gotta flip that faggot to get to the Dear Leader.

He's trolling :tu

[RandomGuy]

925063641870856192

Kushner?

Interesting bit, but not clear if they are related to Mueller's probe. (seems quite possible, but hard to say)

[RandomGuy]

He's trolling :tu

https://imgix.bustle.com/uploads/image/2017/10/23/8abb7b0a-3f51-4b0d-b72a-7b33b16d9a71-giphy.gif

[spurraider21]

https://i.imgur.com/R2EFJdB.png

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[monosylab1k]

He's trolling :tu

:lmao

It’s not your fault. It’s not your fault. It’s not your fault.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/7e/2d/7b/7e2d7b40aac2ff3ac54afc9a7689ff56---stages-of-grief-grief-counseling.jpg

[Chris]

:lmao

It’s not your fault. It’s not your fault. It’s not your fault.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/7e/2d/7b/7e2d7b40aac2ff3ac54afc9a7689ff56---stages-of-grief-grief-counseling.jpg

Paying the price for Trump Derangement Syndrome

https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2017/10/23/10232017_b1-pruden-18201_c0-0-1800-1049_s885x516.jpg?b59c95f950ec335d64f91a1fa64e149f 108d505f


Fear and loathing can be great fun, but the Democrats are learning to their chagrin that resistance, estrangement and alienation can only take a party so far.
They’ve spent three quarters of the year luxuriating in Trump Derangement Syndrome, regaling each other with tales of how much they despise the man who beat them last year, playing the game of “show me yours and I’ll show you mine.” Every Democrat thinks his hatred of the president is bigger, brighter and better than anybody else’s.
But now it’s time, like it or not, to start thinking about suiting up for the midterm congressional elections, and how to build a little momentum for the long slog toward Nov. 8, 2020.
The early measurement everybody watches is money — “the mother’s milk of politics.” Even milk just this side of sour is acceptable, and so far this year the Republicans are scarfing up most of it.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/23/trump-derangement-syndrome-only-gets-democrats-so-/

Your party is F:lolCK:lolD

[monosylab1k]

Paying the price for Trump Derangement Syndrome

https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2017/10/23/10232017_b1-pruden-18201_c0-0-1800-1049_s885x516.jpg?b59c95f950ec335d64f91a1fa64e149f 108d505f

Your party is F:lolCK:lolD

It’s not your fault. It’s not your fault.











































Hey. Look at me.






It’s not your fault.

[Pavlov]

Paying the price for Trump Derangement Syndrome

https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2017/10/23/10232017_b1-pruden-18201_c0-0-1800-1049_s885x516.jpg?b59c95f950ec335d64f91a1fa64e149f 108d505f



Your party is F:lolCK:lolDlol Moonie paper

[Trill Clinton]

925107307750584320


more ether pleasehttp://i66.tinypic.com/99osw0.jpg

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

925126539510939648
:lmao No Collusion Crew. Tell me how my ass taste

[djohn2oo8]

Guess TSA and Chris were wrong about this thread being dead too

http://fat.gfycat.com/SmugGraciousFowl.gif

[TSA]

925126539510939648
:lmao No Collusion Crew. Tell me how my ass taste

Why are you posting about manaforts lobbying for Ukraine?

[Pavlov]

Who changed the Republican Party platform concerning the Ukraine during the convention?

[baseline bum]

Who changed the Republican Party platform concerning the Ukraine during the convention?

Hillary?

[Pavlov]

Hillary?https://i.imgur.com/TMLjbG8.gif

[Reck]

925126539510939648
:lmao No Collusion Crew. Tell me how my ass taste

Best post of the day. Oi oi oi

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

925087652197515265
:lmao

[monosylab1k]

Guess TSA and Chris were wrong about this thread being dead too

http://fat.gfycat.com/SmugGraciousFowl.gif

Illusion and delusion!

[djohn2oo8]

925071949142802432

[djohn2oo8]

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lol

[djohn2oo8]

925070993692987394
lol Comey having a blast out there

[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

925161142435090432

925160493215387648

:lmao Trumptards

[vy65]

925160655073824770

Jesus Christ. You could tell just from the look on his face that he’s shitting himself

[boutons_deux]

Internet loses it after ‘malfunctioning droid’ Carter Page ‘legit foamed at the mouth’ during bonkers interview

< hilarious tweets compilation >

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/internet-loses-it-after-malfunctioning-droid-carter-page-legit-foamed-at-the-mouth-during-bonkers-interview/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

New Pro-Trump Line: ‘Collusion Is Not A Crime’

One of the quickest turnarounds came from Jay Sekulow, a Religious Right activist and chief counsel of the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) who is also an attorney for Trump. In an interview with Wolf Blitzer,

Sekulow insisted (https://thinkprogress.org/trumps-personal-attorney-stops-denying-collusion-with-russia-and-starts-defending-it-4c973bff4910/) that Papadopoulos did nothing wrong in his meetings with foreign officials and that

the only problem was that he had lied about them to the FBI.

This summer, Sekulow had said (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/07/how_jay_sekulow_tries_to_bury_the_truth.html) in an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity that there was “no evidence of Russian collusion” with the Trump campaign…

a line that Trump himself was repeating (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-30/trump-falsely-tweets-that-manafort-indictment-predates-campaign) as recently as this morning.

Earlier in the afternoon, Sekulow hosted his daily “Jay Sekulow Live (https://www.facebook.com/JaySekulow/videos/1757037321038527/)” radio program, where both of his cohosts—his son Jordan Sekulow and ACLJ attorney Andrew Ekonomou—insisted that

“collusion is not a crime” and is simply something that voters can pick and choose whether they want in a presidential campaign.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/new-pro-trump-line-collusion-is-not-a-crime/

So "Hillary's Russian collusion" is not a crime? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Pat Robertson demands Trump fire Mueller and pardon everyone: ‘This whole thing has to be shut down!’

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/cbn_700club_church_guns_140909a-800x430.jpg

A deeply concerned Pat Robertson implored President Donald Trump to

make the whole Russian investigation go away by firing special counsel Robert Mueller and

giving a blanket pardon to everyone who is being scrutinized by the FBI and congressional investigation

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/pat-robertson-demands-trump-fire-mueller-and-pardon-everyone-this-whole-thing-has-to-be-shut-down/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Can't ignore influential, revered grifter PR, he's got 10Ms of white people belive his insane shit.

[Pavlov]

Collusion good now.

[boutons_deux]

Paul Manafort and the privilege of being a white collar defendant

No handcuffs, no money upfront.

Both Manafort and Rick Gates, a former Manafort business associate and Trump campaign aide who was also indicted on Monday, didn’t have to see images of themselves in handcuffs plastered all over the media; rather, the two were able to portray themselves as calm, cool and collected.

This is a privilege awarded to white collar criminals who allegedly commit serious crimes, yet are spared from the embarrassment other criminals face.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/911700378269478913/nDMjP7Wr_normal.jpgClint Smith (https://twitter.com/ClintSmithIII)
(https://twitter.com/ClintSmithIII)✔@ClintSmithIII (https://twitter.com/ClintSmithIII)

Wild how you can conspire against the United States & walk into FBI offices handcuff-free while Eric Garner was choked to death for loosies.

Manafort did not have to pay cash upfront for his release, which is contingent upon home detention and daily reporting.

This is a deal low-income individuals in jail for far lesser crimes would love to have. As HuffPost justice reporter Ryan J. Reilly notes (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/harris-county-bail-unconstitutional-lawsuit_us_59d3ccc0e4b0218923e5a559):

“Who stays in jail and who gets out before trial is often not determined by public safety considerations or by a person’s history and circumstances, but by whether individuals or their family members can come up with a pre-determined amount of money to secure their release.”

Meanwhile, a half a million people sit behind bars because they are unable to afford bail, according to the Justice Policy Institute (http://www.justicepolicy.org/news/10585).

Those who can’t afford bail end up paying instead with time behind bars.

Of the nearly 750,000 inmates confined in jails around the U.S. at any time, between 60 and 70 percent haven’t been convicted,

according to federal data (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/jim14.pdf).

https://thinkprogress.org/manafort-privilege-white-collar-defendant-ce7dc852eb25/

[boutons_deux]

GOP Lawmakers Quickly Throw Support Behind Robert Mueller As Russia Scandal Sinks Trump

Republicans are leaping to defend Mueller as concerns grow that Trump may try to fire him.

In a statement released Monday, high-ranking GOP Sen. Orrin Hatch, who is third in line for the presidency, said Mueller “needs time and support” to continue his investigation.

Two other GOP lawmakers, Reps. Randy Hultgren and Adam Kinzinger, also threw their support behind the special counsel investigation, saying it’s critical that Mueller is allowed to do his job so the American people can get the answers they deserve.


U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin, the number two Democrat in the Senate, said given the president’s repeated criticism of a special prosecutor’s investigation into his campaign’s ties to Russia, there is legitimate concern Trump might try to fire special counsel Robert Mueller, or pardon those charged.

“If I would have said a year ago what you just said about the possibility of a special prosecutor being fired, and that a presidential pardon would be issued following it, you’d have said that movie will never sell, it’s too outlandish, it’s just not even possible,” he said.

“But it sadly is within the realm of possibility.”


http://www.politicususa.com/2017/10/30/gop-lawmakers-quickly-throw-support-robert-mueller-russia-scandal-sinks-trump.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (http://www.politicususa.com/2017/10/30/gop-lawmakers-quickly-throw-support-robert-mueller-russia-scandal-sinks-trump.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

[Spurminator]

But seriously how is Pat Robertson still alive?

[SnakeBoy]

Haven't really kept up with this circle jerk thread but what ya'll think of Mueller reportedly targeting the Podesta Group?

And Tony Podesta resigning today because of it.

[Pavlov]

Haven't really kept up with this circle jerk thread but what ya'll think of Mueller reportedly targeting the Podesta Group?

And Tony Podesta resigning today because of it.They worked for Manafort, so it's not much of a surprise.

[boutons_deux]

Russian Influence Reached 126 Million Through Facebook Alone

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/technology/facebook-google-russia.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

... while the Repugs do everything they can to circumscribe Congressional investigations into Pootin messing with Americans' heads. Pootin, his mafiya, and his cyber army are laughing their asses off at how soft a target USA is, and how Pootin has compromised the entire Repug party.

The social network says some 80,000 posts (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41812369) published between 2015 and 2017 were by a Russian company with links to the Kremlin.

The revelation comes a day before Facebook and other tech companies will testify in the US Senate on Russian influence on social media.

FB protests that it is not a publisher, only an innocent platform.

[boutons_deux]

Here's how Pootin handles dissent

Ambush wounds 'anti-Putin plotter' and kills wife near Kiev


https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/FDB0/production/_98544946_d022731d-d185-432b-9052-eadafdad024f.jpg

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41811969

[boutons_deux]

James Clapper: ‘The Russians Succeeded…Beyond Their Wildest Expectations’

former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said that Russian President Vladimir Putin likely considers his campaign against the United States to be a smash hit.

“Their first objective in the election was to sow discontent, discord and disruption in our political life, and they have succeeded to a fare-thee-well. They have accelerated, amplified the polarization and the divisiveness in this country and they’ve undermined our democratic system.”

Still, he wonders whether a hypothetical ouster of Trump via impeachment or the 25th Amendment might play into the Russians’ hands, given that Trump’s base would likely be furious and more conspiracy theories are bound to pop up.

“I’m not sure that an outcome like that—the president’s removal would be a good thing,” he said.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/james-clapper-the-russians-succeeded-beyond-their-wildest-expectations/

[boutons_deux]

Marine General as hyper-patriot praising traitorous sececssionists

John Kelly ridiculed for blaming civil war on 'lack of ability to compromise'

hailing Confederate hero Robert E Lee (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/robert-e-lee-confederate-hero-heart-charlottesville-unrest-statues/) as an "honourable" man and claiming “the lack of ability to compromise caused the Civil War”.

"[Confederate General] Robert E. Lee was an honourable man who gave up his country to fight for his state,"


"One hundred and fifty years ago, that was more important than country -

it was always loyalty to state back in those days. Now it's different.

But the lack of an ability to compromise led to the Civil War, and

men and women of good faith on both sides made their stand where their conscience had them make their stand."


His comments triggered a backlash on social media as users mocked the




notion that a compromise could have been found over slavery.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/31/john-kelly-ridiculed-blaming-civil-war-lack-ability-compromise/

typical military perversion, loyalty supercedes everything.

[boutons_deux]

FORMER CIA CHIEF: THE SMOKE AROUND TRUMP AND RUSSIA IS THICKENING

HOW MUCH TROUBLE IS PAUL MANAFORT IN?

John McLaughlin: This is very serious. Bob Mueller, the special counsel, is someone who approaches these things with great care.

When he offers evidence, it’s because he has great confidence that it’s going to hold up in court.

So I think this is a serious situation for Manafort, even though he pleaded not guilty Monday.


HOW IS ALL THIS LINKED TO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN?

McLaughlin: There are some linkages.

But I don’t believe the information about Manafort establishes collusion. That’s a difficult concept to deal with legally.

But certainly Monday’s evidence thickens the smoke.

The way in which this is linked to the campaign is that Manafort was at a meeting in June when the Russian lawyer came offering evidence of Hillary Clinton’s wrongdoing that would help Trump.

And Manafort cannot claim naiveté over this in the way that, say, Donald Trump Jr. could claim to be inexperienced.

Manafort had been around Russians and Ukrainians and had worked closely with a Vladimir Putin ally in Ukraine.


WILL MANAFORT SHED MORE LIGHT ON THAT MEETING, OR IS THIS ARREST AN INDICATION THAT HE’S NOT COOPERATING?

There’s also a message here, in the way that Mueller has dropped this news, to other individuals who may be worried about being targets of this investigation:

First is the example of Papadopoulos, who was arrested in July and at some point between July and October agreed to cooperate and has some kind of plea bargain arrangement — and may have even been gathering evidence secretly for the special counsel during that period.

The other example they’re looking at is someone who did not agree to cooperate and who’s been indicted by a grand jury and is in serious legal jeopardy.

http://www.ozy.com/pov/former-cia-chief-the-smoke-around-trump-and-russia-is-thickening/81867?utm_source=pdb&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=10312017&variable=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031

I wonder if Pootin and/or his mafiya recommended Manafort to Trash, after Manafort had worked for Pootin and his puppet in Ukraine?

How were Trash and Manafort connected before Trash handed his campaign to Manafort?

Manafort sounds like your typical garden-variety DC swamp monster that Trash LIED about purging.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Manafort

[boutons_deux]

Who Is Viktor Yanukovych And What’s His Connection To Paul Manafort?

The former Ukrainian president was named in the indictment of Trump’s former campaign chai

Manafort and his associate Richard Gates acted as unregistered agents for Ukrainian political figures and parties between at least 2006 and 2015, specifically naming former pro-Russian Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych as one of their employers.

While working for Yanukovych and his Party of Regions, Manafort and Gates allegedly accrued tens of millions of dollars which they then hid from U.S. authorities and laundered through a convoluted series of foreign companies and bank accounts.

What Were Yanukovych’s Ties To Manafort?

Manafort first officially started working with Yanukovych and his pro-Russian Party of Regions in 2006, acting as a political consultant and helping to burnish the party’s tarnished image for parliamentary elections that year.

Manafort molded Yanukovych and other members of his party into more presentable politicians,

even down to advising them on their hair and clothes,

according to a Washington Post report (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-trump-adviser-manafort-revived-his-career--and-business-fortunes--in-ukraine/2016/08/18/8bcfb144-648f-11e6-be4e-23fc4d4d12b4_story.html?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.1b5580b68c33) on Manafort’s work in Ukraine.

U.S. diplomats in the country sent a cable (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/16/donald-trump-campaign-paul-manafort-ukraine-yanukovich) back to the State Department in 2006 observing that

the Party of Regions was shifting from “a haven for Donetsk-based mobsters and oligarchs” into something more polished looking.

Yanukovych and his party continued to be prominent players in Ukrainian politics ― even after Yanukovych lost the office of prime minister in 2007 ― but they gained new prominence in the run-up to the 2010 Ukrainian election.

Manafort advised Yanukovych during his successful campaign for president that year, which saw

the Ukrainian leader rail against his country’s bid for joining NATO and seek better ties with Russia.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/yanukovych-manafort-indictment-trump_us_59f72e5ae4b03cd20b82fe20?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__103117&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__103117+CID_f5906a86 91028df6ead8f0f9a53be89b&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=the%20name%20Viktor%20Yanukovych&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__103117

[boutons_deux]

Kelly shit-staining himself more thoroughly

White House Chief of Staff John Kelly brushes aside Trump aide charges, endorses new Clinton inquiry :lol

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-john-kelly-trump-20171030-story.html#nws=mcnewsletter

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao Trump's meltdown this morning is an all time classic

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

925337581004443649

http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/james-comey-tapes.gif

[boutons_deux]

“If you look at the 12-count indictment against Mr. Manafort

it shows that he has a decade long history as a career criminal,” Steyer told Obeidallah.

“When you have someone like that is the winner of a winning presidential campaign,

at the heart of that campaign is willingness to accept lawlessness…

That kind of attitude was at the very heart of the Trump campaign and

we believe at the very heart of the Trump administration.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/never-trump-billionaire-manaforts-lawlessness-at-the-very-heart-of-the-trump-administration/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

How did Trash and Manafort get connected? When?

Did somebody, who?, Pootin?, recommend Manafort as campaign mgr to Trash?

[RandomGuy]

But seriously how is Pat Robertson still alive?

Bathing in the blood of virgins every fortnight. Just a theory.

[spurraider21]

https://i.imgur.com/FMKyeog.jpg

[RandomGuy]

Haven't really kept up with this circle jerk thread but what ya'll think of Mueller reportedly targeting the Podesta Group?

And Tony Podesta resigning today because of it.

I think conservatives will be told this is very, very, super duper important by the propaganda shills at Fox News, who are doing everything but reporting the actual story.

Shit, if Alderaan had deflection shields as strong as the one Trump is putting up, Star Wars would have gone way differently...

The bigger part of the story is that Popadopowhatever worked for Sessions as part of the Trump campaigns foreign policy arm.. The guy who testified under oath that he oh-so-definitely did NOT have discussions with Russians.

But by all means, hyperfocus on what Trump wants you to focus on. It will be funny watching your face when the other shoes start dropping.

[RandomGuy]

Trump is gonna have to play Oprah for his staff.

"you get a lawyer, and you get a lawyer, and you get a lawyer"

He will have to borrow more money from Putin, one of the actual worlds wealthiest men, an irony that is not lost on me.

[RandomGuy]

https://i.imgur.com/R2EFJdB.png

Sums it up. Wow.

[RandomGuy]

Tony feeling the heat

Tony Podesta stepping down from lobbying giant amid Mueller probe
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/30/tony-podesta-stepping-down-from-lobbying-giant-amid-mueller-probe-244314

Do the charges against Manafort give leverage to prosecutors for charges that deal with colluding with Russian government during the election, yes or no?

[boutons_deux]

Historians respond to John F. Kelly’s Civil War remarks: ‘Strange,’ ‘sad,’ ‘wrong’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/10/31/historians-respond-to-john-kellys-civil-war-remarks-strange-sad-wrong/?undefined=&utm_term=.e61010c6f167&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

more evidence that one can be a life-long success in the military, even a 4-star General, and still be an ignorant, racist fuckoff.

[monosylab1k]

https://i.imgur.com/FMKyeog.jpg

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Rick Gates goes under the bus as the Trump team claims he was never 'involved' in group he founded (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/30/1711097/-Rick-Gates-goes-under-the-bus-as-the-Trump-team-claims-he-was-never-involved-in-group-he-founded)

Gates might not appear in the news as often as his boss, Paul Manafort, but that’s because until the indictment Gates had mostly seemed to avoid the limelight. What he didn’t avoid was working with Donald Trump (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-group-throws-former-campaign-official-rick-gates-under-the-bus-after-bob-mueller-indictment?via=twitter_page).

Gates, the longtime lobbying partner of Manafort, was indicted alongside his previous business partner on Monday.

Long after Manafort formally left the presidential campaign, Gates lingered around in a number of capacities.

He visited the White House numerous times, including as recently as this summer.

And on top of that, he was one of six former Trump campaign aides who helped start the nonprofit group America First Policies to support the president’s agenda shortly after his inauguration.


Just because Gates was one of the founders of America First Policies doesn’t mean he was actually involved in it.


… On Monday, Gates too found his place under the proverbial bus.

Though he had left America First Policies just two months into President Trump’s term, another official with that organization,

Katrina Pierson, now insists that he was never formally involved.


Rick Gates was never formally involved with the group he founded.

George Papadopoulos was nothing but a volunteer.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/30/1711097/-Rick-Gates-goes-under-the-bus-as-the-Trump-team-claims-he-was-never-involved-in-group-he-founded?detail=emaildkre

Trash: "Pootin? who's that? never met the guy?" LOL

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-timeline/

[Trill Clinton]

Historians respond to John F. Kelly’s Civil War remarks: ‘Strange,’ ‘sad,’ ‘wrong’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/10/31/historians-respond-to-john-kellys-civil-war-remarks-strange-sad-wrong/?undefined=&utm_term=.e61010c6f167&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

more evidence that one can be a life-long success in the military, even a 4-star General, and still be an ignorant, racist fuckoff.




Kelly is a dumbass

[djohn2oo8]

925380380852711425
:lol

[djohn2oo8]

925408198948990976

[RandomGuy]

Kelly is a dumbass

Kelley's credibility was sucked in by Trumps spreading taint.

[Spurminator]

Kelly is a dumbass

100% certain he has made the "Actually slaves had it pretty well" argument.

[DMC]

Why do people say "4 star general"? No one says "3 stripe Sr Airman". 4 stars is a general. Everything else is other than... except the very rarely use 5th star.

[Pavlov]

925408198948990976There is almost no way these are the only indictments. The fact that zero people outside the investigation knew or talked about about an arrest in July and subsequent guilty pleas suggests that the Mueller ship is fairly leak proof.

[RandomGuy]

There is almost no way these are the only indictments. The fact that zero people outside the investigation knew or talked about about an arrest in July and subsequent guilty pleas suggests that the Mueller ship is fairly leak proof.

They know what they are up against. Potentially taking on a sitting president, who happens to be a billionaire, is about as high-stakes as it gets. No one signs up for that without some brass cajones and a sense of duty that would preclude talking to the press, even a little.

[boutons_deux]

Trash lies, so I bet he's not a net worth billionaire, and his 2020 campaign is paying his lawyers

[ducks]

Trash lies, so I bet he's not a net worth billionaire, and his 2020 campaign is paying his lawyers

did any elect officer keep every promise he made

did boutons_duex keep every promise made
the answer is HELL NO!

[boutons_deux]

10 takeaways from Mueller’s shock-and-awe gambit

-- Here are 10 takeaways from Mueller’s opening gambit:

1. We now know that multiple members of the Trump campaign at least entertained the idea of getting help from the Russians.

2. Sam Clovis is about to be in the hot seat. (if a wide-enough hot seat can be found for his morbidly obese ass)

3. Papadopoulos is helping the government, but we still don’t know how much.

4. The updated timeline raises a host of new questions about what Trump knew and when he knew it.

5. Mueller is playing hardball as he tries to flip Manafort and Gates.

6. Mueller’s moves are designed to send a message to everyone else (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/muellers-moves-send-message-to-other-potential-targets-beware-im-coming/2017/10/30/f4fa5d7a-bd8c-11e7-8444-a0d4f04b89eb_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-high_indictanalysis-132pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.159dacffe5ac) entangled in the probe that he's not messing around.

7. Unsealing the guilty plea was an insurance policy that makes it politically untenable for Trump to fire Mueller.

8. Yesterday’s indictments will contribute to a climate of fear in the White House that makes it harder for Trump and his staff to be effective.

9. Mueller has proven that his investigation is not partisan.

10. The indictments cast fresh doubts on Trump’s judgment and his discernment in surrounding himself with good people. "the BEST people" :lol

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/10/31/daily-202-10-takeaways-from-mueller-s-shock-and-awe-gambit/59f778d330fb0468e7653ee5/?undefined=&utm_term=.ea41722ef6cf&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

[Chris]

q0s4cLDwt7o

[djohn2oo8]

925494807258173440

[Chris]

6bRH1-RG9sE&t=318s

[spurraider21]

6bRH1-RG9sE&t=318s


https://i.imgur.com/FMKyeog.jpg

[boutons_deux]

G.O.P. Collusion with Trump Continues Despite the Mueller Revelations

Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell don’t consider new evidence of an attack on the integrity of our legislative and electoral system worthy of comment.

Ryan doesn’t put possible foreign intervention in the election, or influence peddling, stealth lobbying, tax fraud, and money laundering

—which are strands in the indictments of Manafort and his associate, Rick Gates, who both pleaded not guilty—

in the category of “people’s problems.”

typical Ryan move:

attempting to end a line of questioning by drawing on his reputation for wonkiness, and explaining how something works.

Someone so professedly nuts-and-bolts-oriented might, at some point, read the indictment, which is about thirty-one pages long.

the House, on Ryan’s watch, last week opened new investigations into the Clinton campaign’s supposed Russian ties.

Ryan, as Speaker, was the honorary chair of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, of which Manafort was one of the main organizers and front men (http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/10/clevelanders_may_remember_paul.html) on the campaign side.

President took the news, she said,

“He responded the same way the rest of us in the White House have—that is, without a lot of reaction, because it doesn’t have anything to do with us.”

McConnell might find that his preferred silence is increasingly awkward.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/gop-collusion-with-trump-continues-despite-the-mueller-revelations?mbid=nl_Daily%20103117&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=12260314&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1262714021&spReportId=MTI2MjcxNDAyMQS2

Current White House spokesperson is just as big a liar as the previous one.

[djohn2oo8]

925497185747206144

[Chris]

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22904923_694667114206631_4309170788769349703_o.jpg ?oh=94e304b7d2e7cb8b7342d8d19d570166&oe=5AA33886

https://media.giphy.com/media/14ceV8wMLIGO6Q/giphy.gif

[Chris]

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23031578_1809197552705674_1082824766147900166_n.jp g?oh=c29c2235bbddb535e477c5e6728067d7&oe=5A76C53B

[spurraider21]

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23031578_1809197552705674_1082824766147900166_n.jp g?oh=c29c2235bbddb535e477c5e6728067d7&oe=5A76C53B
We sold uranium to fusion gps?

[Chris]

Podesta thought he could cuck the Tuck :lol

925152839424454658
925153002159255553
925155178315214848

[boutons_deux]

Google Says Russian Operatives Made 1,100 YouTube Videos During Campaign


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/google-russian-operatives-youtube-videos?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

[Pavlov]

Podesta thought he could cuck the Tuck :lol

925152839424454658
925153002159255553
925155178315214848You do know Podesta was working for Manafort, right?

:lol

[boutons_deux]

Fox to Offer Twenty-Four-Hour Coverage of Bill Clinton’s Impeachment

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59f8933ff8c9b2792da2e8e0/master/w_1626,c_limit/Borowitz-Fox-Offer-24-Hour-Coverage-1998-Clinton-Impeachment.jpg

NEW YORK —Calling it

a story “too hot for the other cable-news networks to handle,”

Fox News Channel announced on Tuesday that it would begin airing twenty-four-hour coverage of Bill Clinton’s 1998–99 impeachment.

Fox anchor Sean Hannity announced the programming change, telling viewers that Fox would devote all its resources to reporting the Clinton impeachment to the exclusion of all other news stories.

“This story has everything: sex, lies, and misdeeds at the highest levels of our government,”

Hannity said. “We are planning to flood the zone to bring it to you.”

Calling it

“the story Bill and Hillary Clinton don’t want you to hear,”

Hannity said Fox would be unstinting in its effort to get to the bottom of the impeachment.

“For years, this hushed-up chapter of our history has been shrouded in silence,” Hannity said. “That silence ends today.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/fox-to-offer-twenty-four-hour-coverage-of-bill-clintons-impeachment (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/fox-to-offer-twenty-four-hour-coverage-of-bill-clintons-impeachment)

[Kim Jong-il]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNbZTG4XcAEXtTD?format=jpg

[boutons_deux]

If Trump seems hysterical now, just wait.

The intensity of Trump's frenzy underscores the peril in which the president now finds himself.

Beyond the indictments unsealed Monday morning, Trump does not know what special counsel Robert Mueller (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/crime-law-justice/robert-s.-mueller-iii-PEPLT0008908-topic.html) has uncovered;

which witnesses are flippable;

what financial documents have revealed about the Trump business empire; and

whether, for example, Mueller finds support for an obstruction of justice charge from Trump's own public dissembling (e.g., hinting at non-existent tapes of former FBI director James Comey).

For someone who insists on holding all the cards and intimidating others, Trump finds himself in a uniquely powerless position.

Republicans should be saying publicly that efforts to fire Mueller and/or pardon indicted figures will commence impeachment proceedings.

Right now that is a theoretical question, but given how rattled Trump seems to be, we shouldn't rule out the possibility.

It should surprise no one that

congressional Republicans, who have demonstrated their spinelessness again and again, are silent.

They've got themselves fixated on tax reform, which they irrationally conclude will be imperiled if they try to head off Trump from doing something catastrophic with regard to Mueller or pardons.

if Trump is this hysterical now, one wonders what he'll be like if a stream of indictments relating to the campaign and/or obstruction of justice begins.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-trump-paul-manafort-20171030-story.html#testnws=politicsnow&track=_newsletter_politics-now___________20171031

[pgardn]

Haven't really kept up with this circle jerk thread but what ya'll think of Mueller reportedly targeting the Podesta Group?

And Tony Podesta resigning today because of it.

Draining the swamp for trump.
It just has to be the democratic part of the swamp.
Manafort getting slayed led to the Podesta stuff. And now all these lobbyists for foreign countries are scared. That's good. But Manafort, that's bad because that's Trumps man.

Meanwhile Republicans and Trump need to keep their eye on the ball:

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/31/facebook-twitter-post-election-russian-meddling-sought-to-undermine-trump-244380


Wake the fck up... WH fools. CC "why don't we try to have better relations?" Ohhh, no reason. Fcking with Democracy is just fine. We like authoritarians who kill political opponents and despise democracy. The Russians ain't so bad? We could be like them.

Boots thinking the Russians are all in on Trump as well...

[Chucho]

When/if both sides get strung up because of Mueller's work, only your hardcores like Boots, Ducks, djohn, Chris et. al will be upset when this can be a real win for We the fucking People...I hope this takes down "the establishment" as a whole as much as possible.

[Splits]

925540917817303042

Manafort has as many passports as all Trump voters combined

[boutons_deux]

Officer At Bank Where Manafort Hid His Money? Trump's Sec Of Commerce! (http://crooksandliars.com/2017/10/officer-bank-where-manafort-hid-his-money)


STEPHANIE RUHLE: Ali Velshi, put Russia aside.

You have nine detailed pages of a Paul Manafort money trail.

During the campaign, I went to see one of President Trump's largest Wall Street backers. He said,

"Donald Trump, when it comes to business is a sloppy guy. There's a lot of business he's not going to want to be revealed."

Whether you're talking about Paul Manafort or you continue the web, where was a lot of that money funneled through?

I mentioned it earlier. Cypress!

Wilbur Ross, Commerce Secretary, sits on the board of that bank. In 2014 he bought a stake in that bank.
ALI VELSHI: It could be a weird coincidence.

RUHLE: It could be a weird coincidence. But we can call Papadopoulos a coffee boy all day long.

But if you have 75 million bucks being laundered and by the way, your commerce secretary sits on that board,

I assure you, Robert Mueller is going to have more questions.

It doesn't matter, if the White House wants to deflect and distract.

Robert Mueller isn't getting distracted.


And in case you think Ross isn't hiding anything else?

Forbes reported last week (https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/10/16/the-mystery-of-wilbur-ross-missing-billions/#6ce756bb1c90) that "between the November election and January inauguration,

he had quietly moved a chunk of assets into trusts for his family members,

leaving more than $2 billion off of his financial disclosure report—and therefore out of the public eye.

Ross revealed the existence of those assets, and the timing of the transfer, when Forbes asked why his financial disclosure form listed fewer assets than he had previously told the magazine he owned."

Must be nice to have those kind of problems, where to HIDE 2 billion dollars of your assets so federal government oversight can't look at where you got it.

Drain the swamp, Trump chumps!

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/10/officer-bank-where-manafort-hid-his-money?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=crooksandliars.com&utm_term=68734&utm_content=2150820

Remember that Mnunchin "forgot" he had $100M stashed down in the Caribbean

Repugs, or Pootin, staffed up Trash's campaign and cabinet with 1%ers and criminals, ALL with deep Russian connections.

What are chances of innocent coincidence? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Papadopoulos told Russians that Trump campaign gave him green light to set up meetings

An FBI affidavit shows that the 30-year-old adviser boasted that he got the go-ahead from his “side” when emailing with Russian operatives about potential meeting with high-level campaign officials.

According to the Washington Examiner (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fbi-affidavit-george-papadopoulos-said-trump-campaign-okd-meeting-with-russians/article/2639203), the affidavit was left out of the court documents listing Papadopoulos’ guilty plea.

Though prosecutors did not provide a reason as to why the email was left out, it’s possible they did so because they believed he was lying.

Papadopoulos “allegedly sent the email shortly before the Republican National Convention in 2016 and noted that it would include ‘my national chairman and maybe one other foreign policy adviser,’ along with members of Putin’s office and Russia’s foreign ministry,” the Examiner‘s report noted.

“Papadopoulos then said it had been approved by ‘our side.'”

There’s no evidence to prove whether the meeting happened, or who the national chairman would be.

The Examiner‘s report also noted that Paul Manafort, who was indicted yesterday (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/donald-trump-refuses-to-say-if-he-plans-to-pardon-paul-manafort/) for conspiracy charges along with his deputy Rick Gates, was the campaign’s chairman at the time.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/papadopoulos-told-russians-that-trump-campaign-gave-him-green-light-to-set-up-meetings-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Before and after Russia probe indictments, Fox News worked feverishly to discredit the investigation (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/31/1711434/-Before-and-after-Russia-probe-indictments-Fox-News-worked-feverishly-to-discredit-the-investigation)

Fox News went on an absolute tear against Mueller—with talking heads like

Sean Hannity demanding the special counsel resign.

They also engaged in one of the most transparent attempts at partisan propaganda-peddling the network had ever undertaken,

suddenly puffing up a conspiracy theory linking Hillary Clinton to uranium mining

that had never before taken root among conservatives because

it had always been a wee bit too stupid-sounding even for the Sean Hannity crowd.

(but not too stupid for Spurstalk assholes)

A week later, that push appears to be

clear evidence that Fox had information that indictments were forthcoming—and was seeking to undermine their impact.

This would be unthinkable for a "news" operation, but as a network devoted to propagandizing
the news in service to a narrow subset of the Republican agenda, it was unsurprising.

Vox took it upon themselves (https://www.vox.com/2017/10/31/16571350/fox-news-mueller-credibility) to analyze how the Fox network covered the Mueller investigation, the guilty plea of Trump campaign adviser Papadopoulos, and the indictment of campaign head Paul Manafort.

The Fox efforts to propagandize the news were robust, consisting both of substantive omissions (https://www.vox.com/2017/10/31/16571350/fox-news-mueller-credibility).

Fox also talked significantly less about George Papadopoulos ... than its competitors.

And contrafactual misdirections:

Both of these stories were used by Fox News to say the Mueller investigation is really about Clinton and the FBI.

Conservative news outlets bought into this framing and ran with it.

In fact, even as Mueller was about to bring indictments, Fox News couldn’t stop talking about the investigation in the context of Clinton

And after the indictments were made public, Fox doubled down (https://twitter.com/Alex_Panetta/status/925040998153060353) on their efforts to discredit not the indicted Trump aides, but the man who indicted them.

the efforts Fox took to preemptively attack Mueller on the eve of the released indictments, now that's interesting.

The urgent (and bizarre) focus on a new "Uranium One" conspiracy came just days before the Mueller investigation produced its first guilty plea from a member of the Trump campaign team;

outside observers can be forgiven for wondering whether the network had received advance information about the state of the Mueller probe that drove the new efforts to muddy the waters of the Russia election-hacking investigation.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1711434


A week of Fox News transcripts shows how they began questioning Mueller’s credibility

https://www.vox.com/2017/10/31/16571350/fox-news-mueller-credibility


Repugs have taken the Hannity "Hillary Uranium" bait (maybe they created it and told Hannity to run with it? ) and are opening "Benghazi / Christmas card list / Whitewater" investigations.

[boutons_deux]

what a Spicey level of sack of shit

Sarah Huckabee Sanders Makes Things A Million Times Worse By Comparing Robert E. Lee To JFK

White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders defended Robert E. Lee by comparing him to Washington, Jefferson, JFK, and FDR while ignoring that Robert E. Lee tried to destroy the nation that those presidents led.

“Look, all of our leaders have flaws, Washington, Jefferson, JFK, Roosevelt, Kennedy, that doesn’t diminish their contributions to our country,

and it certainly can’t erase them from our history, and

General Kelly was simply making the point that just because history isn’t perfect doesn’t mean that it’s not our history.”

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=322&p=9176408#post9176408

Lee leading a war to destroy the Union and preserve slavery puts him up there with all the other American Presidents.

[pgardn]

Boots still lost in the election results.

Meanwhile the Russians keep trying to create havoc in a Democratic system. Trump seething because Manafort gets taken down for things that have zero to do with the election. Boots still wallowing in election misery. The Russians need to realize we can fck things up on our own with these two camps that can't think straight and only care about retribution against each other. Just keep creating as much psuedo boogeymen as possible.

The "deep state" ; boo!
Big _______ (fill in anything) ; boo!

And now finally Meuller does the citizens a favor and it goes unnoticed because both Republicans and Democrats are in the mix.

[boutons_deux]

Whatever The Reports About Russian Trolls Buying Ads Is Initially, It's Way, Way Worse

it's always, always worse than first reported.

Yahoo just went through this having finally admitted (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20171004/06592338339/hacks-are-always-worse-than-reported-all-yahoo-email-was-hacked-2013-all-it.shtml) that literally every email account was compromised way back in 2013 after having first said it was only a few hundred thousand accounts that were impacted.

Deloitte (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170926/10442938290/deloitte-hit-cyberattack-that-compromised-client-information-decided-to-basically-tell-nobody-all.shtml) and Equifax (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170908/17363538172/equifax-security-breach-is-complete-disaster-will-almost-certainly-get-worse.shtml) followed this same playbook with their own breaches, trickling out little by little just how wide an impact those hacks had achieved.

Facebook itself estimated that 11.4 million people saw ads bought by the IRA over the course of two years or so, which is not the kind of number that sets off all four alarms at the democracy firehouse.

But Facebook has now given everyone a better idea of how much reach these ads actually had (http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/30/media/russia-facebook-126-million-users/index.html). And these numbers are far more alarming.


Facebook will inform lawmakers this week that roughly 126 million Americans may have been exposed to content generated on its platform by the Russian government-linked troll farm known as the Internet Research Agency between June 2015 and August 2017,

CNN has learned. In written testimony to the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Terrorism, a copy of which was obtained by CNN, Facebook General Counsel Colin Stretch says that 29 million people were served content directly from the Internet Research Agency, and that after sharing among users is accounted for, a total of "approximately 126 million people" may have seen it.

Facebook does not know, however, how many of those 126 million people actually saw one of those posts, or how many may have scrolled past it or simply not logged in on the day that one of the posts was being served in their News Feed.


The inability to nail down just how many eyeballs viewed these ads is, of course, due to the nature of social media.

Buying the ads and targeting primary viewers of them is one thing, but it's the sharing and re-sharing of those ads that extend their reach exponentially.

And it's quite nice of Facebook to come right out and admit that it actually has no idea how many people viewed these ads, even as it offers up estimates to the contrary.

This is a feature of a social media platform like Facebook, not a bug.

And, to the IRA's credit, it's a brilliant and inexpensive method for having some measure of influence in a foreign country's democracy.

Facebook builds a sharing tool and these folks take advantage of the very nature of that tool.

Facebook's attempt to downplay all of this all the more perplexing.


Nevertheless, Facebook says in its testimony that the posts from those pages represented "a tiny fraction of the overall content on Facebook."

"This equals about four-thousandths of one percent (0.004%) of content in News Feed, or approximately 1 out of 23,000 pieces of content," Stretch writes.

"Put another way, if each of these posts were a commercial on television, you'd have to watch more than 600 hours of television to see something from the IRA."


Except, as Facebook and Colin Stretch damned well know,

Facebook doesn't operate anything remotely like television. Nor do its ads. The engagement process of those ads is wildly different.

The ability to share those ads is not a feature of television.

The granular targeting for eyeballs of those ads is simply not something that can be achieved by television advertising.

The geographic targeting specifically, with an eye on influencing votes and the outcome of an election, is simply not a feature available to traditional television advertising.

I know why Facebook wants to pretend otherwise in this instance, but it simply isn't true.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20171031/11090138521/spinoff-whatever-reports-about-russian-trolls-buying-ads-is-initially-way-way-worse.shtml

geographic targeting?

Like Pootin's cyber army targeting WI, MI, PA,

using demographic data received from Kushner and racist Mercer's Cambridge Analytica?

[boutons_deux]

Hundreds of Trump Organization secret subdomains are hosted in Russia (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/31/1711445/-Hundreds-of-Trump-Organization-secret-subdomains-are-hosted-in-Russia)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/419418/story_image/russia-kremlin-getty.jpg?1498857626

You may not be familiar with unhackthevote.com (http://www.unhackthevote.com/), but they’ve been on the front lines of the cyber war against hacking of our voting machines. Today they are breaking a major story on yet another close tie between Trump and Russia.

It’s beyond belief that our intelligence community — the NSA and the CIA — are unaware of this.

Which would certainly explain why those folks have been convinced of the Trump-Russia connection from the start of the 2016 campaign, if not earlier.

Here’s the thread from Mike Farb:



https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/821904951073001473/Z3c2AkgF_normal.jpgMikeFarb 1:23 PM - Oct 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925428072316358656)
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Replying to (https://twitter.com/_/status/925428072316358656)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1
The Trump Organization, like most large organizations, has a lot of domains registered to it. Let's take a look.


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/821904951073001473/Z3c2AkgF_normal.jpgMikeFarb [COLOR=#697882 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1




Many of these domains have subdomains - like http://reservations.trumphotels.com (https://t.co/tdDBbDunou). This is a normal practice. But we found something HIGHLY unusual.
1:24 PM - Oct 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925428292232077312)



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Replying to (https://twitter.com/_/status/925428292232077312)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1
They don't have normal names.
They have names like http://fghft.721fifth.com (https://t.co/xkju3JiMI3).
Pretty much impossible for the normal user to stumble upon.



https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/821904951073001473/Z3c2AkgF_normal.jpgMikeFarb [COLOR=#697882 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1




These subdomains are not open for normal web traffic. When you browse to them there is nothing there.
1:25 PM - Oct 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925428504627433473)



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Replying to (https://twitter.com/_/status/925428504627433473)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1
The fact that they exist means they can be used for communication, if you know how.




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Our team did a traceroute on these subdomains. Checking where traffic on these networks goes.
1:25 PM - Oct 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925428649653886976)



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Replying to (https://twitter.com/_/status/925428649653886976)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1
What we found was shocking.


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/821904951073001473/Z3c2AkgF_normal.jpgMikeFarb [COLOR=#697882 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1




All of these subdomains follow the same route to Moscow, then take a trip to Siberia, then finally arrive at a server in St. Petersburg. pic.twitter.com/8pR7Zxkmew (https://t.co/8pR7Zxkmew)
1:26 PM - Oct 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925428896354488320)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNfIqt0UMAAA00b.jpg:small (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925428896354488320/photo/1)





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Replying to (https://twitter.com/_/status/925428896354488320)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1
And what about that location in Siberia?


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/821904951073001473/Z3c2AkgF_normal.jpgMikeFarb [COLOR=#697882 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1




The coordinates point to the place where the earth was flattened by a meteor explosion in 1908. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event … (https://t.co/2UaA6Z1y4v)pic.twitter.com/LYzx99fh0s (https://t.co/LYzx99fh0s)
1:28 PM - Oct 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925429303654993920)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNfJCWDVAAAh_Ia.jpg:small (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925429303654993920/photo/1)





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Replying to (https://twitter.com/_/status/925429303654993920)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1
Signs Point To This Sever Actually Being Close To The Kremlin in Moscow!!


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WTF. Why are there STILL Trump-Owned Subdomains That Can Communicate with Computers in Russia? It Gets More Interesting.
1:31 PM - Oct 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925430024341254144)



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Replying to (https://twitter.com/_/status/925430024341254144)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1
All of the Russian IP's these domains are Routing through are owned by Hostkey.ru, also known as Mir Telematiki LTD. Who else uses them?


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/821904951073001473/Z3c2AkgF_normal.jpgMikeFarb [COLOR=#697882 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1




[COLOR=#b22222]WTF!! This IP Address Goes to the Same ISP and Purported Physical Location as Two IP Addresses Used by http://WikiLeaks.org (https://t.co/bjs6ziqcbD)!! pic.twitter.com/WpwCTagcuW (https://t.co/WpwCTagcuW)
1:32 PM - Oct 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925430312607330309)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNfJ9PsX0AI8wL2.jpg:small (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925430312607330309/photo/1)





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Replying to (https://twitter.com/_/status/925430161679495168)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1
WTF!! This IP Address Goes to the Same ISP and Purported Physical Location as Two IP Addresses Used by http://WikiLeaks.org (https://t.co/bjs6ziqcbD)!! pic.twitter.com/WpwCTagcuW (https://t.co/WpwCTagcuW)



(https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925430452969725952)
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Here are the Details about the IP Address that the Trump subdomains pass through. pic.twitter.com/mhY7C1n5Dt (https://t.co/mhY7C1n5Dt)
1:33 PM - Oct 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925430452969725952)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNfKFWoW0AAU-2X.jpg:small (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925430452969725952/photo/1)



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Replying to (https://twitter.com/_/status/925430452969725952)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1
Wikileaks also routes through the supposed Siberian server, although certain signs point to it being very near the Kremlin, in Moscow. pic.twitter.com/vAHKxRKBKF (https://t.co/vAHKxRKBKF)



(https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925430868612714497)
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Trump network traffic includes filenames in “leetspeak”, like http://n1cEG1rLSatTh1Sw33kEND988.html1.zip (https://t.co/V3iALiGSte)

Nice girls at this weekend 988?

WTF?
1:34 PM - Oct 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925430868612714497)



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Replying to (https://twitter.com/_/status/925430868612714497)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1
What does this even mean? We have figured out a few of these codes, we think. Still unsure about a lot of them.


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/821904951073001473/Z3c2AkgF_normal.jpgMikeFarb [COLOR=#697882 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1)Mike (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7591)farb1



For a detailed walkthrough, Please Read Our First Self Published Article at https://www.unhackthevote.com/our-research/trumps-connections-to-russia-they-are-just-a-ping-away/ … (https://t.co/ZmyvaNiVh6)
1:35 PM - Oct 31, 2017 (https://twitter.com/mikefarb1/status/925431088805269505)
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/925060736950272000/oVLpX5V-?format=jpg&name=144x144_2
(https://t.co/ZmyvaNiVh6)


Well, I suppose this could be a big nothingburger. But I wouldn’t bet on it.

UPDATE: I’m promoting one of my own comments to the diary, because it may be pertinent.

I’m a software engineer, and you don’t create a subdomain without a good reason.

One thing you can do is to use it as a blind drop that bypasses normal internet mail protocols.

For example, you could set up a directory on the secret server and dump a file there (via ftp) for another party to find and read.

This totally bypasses all email addresses and conventions such as POP3 or IMAP.

You wouldn’t know there was communication going on unless you hacked the username/password combo of one of the server’s superusers.


And let me add that if the server is physically located next to you, you don't even need ftp to dump data there:

you just create the file on the drive itself, or plug in a thumb drive, and boom, there it is, ready to be picked up and read by the intended party. Which is why having a server in Russia looks very, very suspicious.

UPDATE 2:

And of course I should have realized this before.

When you want to set up a botnet, in order to flood Facebook or Twitter or any other social media with a bunch of comments or links to Fake News,

you need thousands of accounts, and

each one of those accounts will need to be hosted on server.

And if you want all those thousands of bot accounts to flood the zone at the same time, you need a lot of servers. Hmmmm …

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/31/1711445/-Hundreds-of-Trump-Organization-secret-subdomains-are-hosted-in-Russia?detail=emaildkre

[RandomGuy]

Trash lies, so I bet he's not a net worth billionaire, and his 2020 campaign is paying his lawyers

He is almost certainly worth much less than he claims to be, probably much less.

The comical act of fundraising and holding rallies for the 2020 election is getting him some money from the Trumpanzees who think he can walk on water. Rubes are important to any con man, and I have little doubt he will use that money to benefit himself personally before he uses it for his actual campaign.

[boutons_deux]

just like Trash

I worked for Paul Manafort. He always lacked a moral compass.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/11/01/i-worked-for-paul-manafort-he-always-lacked-a-moral-compass/?undefined=&utm_term=.b32cf58300ef&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[Pavlov]

925775974473654272
“Here’s what Manafort’s indictment tells me: Mueller is going to go over every financial dealing of Jared Kushner and the Trump Organization,” said former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg. “Trump is at 33 percent in Gallup. You can’t go any lower. He’s fucked.”

Damn.

[Pavlov]

This guy really doesn't GAF anymore.
“Jared is the worst political adviser in the White House in modern history,” Nunberg said. “I’m only saying publicly what everyone says behind the scenes at Fox News, in conservative media, and the Senate and Congress.”:lmao

[RandomGuy]

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22904923_694667114206631_4309170788769349703_o.jpg ?oh=94e304b7d2e7cb8b7342d8d19d570166&oe=5AA33886

https://media.giphy.com/media/14ceV8wMLIGO6Q/giphy.gif

Debunked.

Hillary wasn't voting on it, the people who did vote said they would have unanimously voted the same way today. The guy who gave the money sold his stake in the company before he gave the money, and gave the money before Clinton was even Secretary of State.

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

Fox to Offer Twenty-Four-Hour Coverage of Bill Clinton’s Impeachment

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59f8933ff8c9b2792da2e8e0/master/w_1626,c_limit/Borowitz-Fox-Offer-24-Hour-Coverage-1998-Clinton-Impeachment.jpg

NEW YORK —Calling it

a story “too hot for the other cable-news networks to handle,”

Fox News Channel announced on Tuesday that it would begin airing twenty-four-hour coverage of Bill Clinton’s 1998–99 impeachment.

Fox anchor Sean Hannity announced the programming change, telling viewers that Fox would devote all its resources to reporting the Clinton impeachment to the exclusion of all other news stories.

“This story has everything: sex, lies, and misdeeds at the highest levels of our government,”

Hannity said. “We are planning to flood the zone to bring it to you.”

Calling it

“the story Bill and Hillary Clinton don’t want you to hear,”

Hannity said Fox would be unstinting in its effort to get to the bottom of the impeachment.

“For years, this hushed-up chapter of our history has been shrouded in silence,” Hannity said. “That silence ends today.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/fox-to-offer-twenty-four-hour-coverage-of-bill-clintons-impeachment (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/fox-to-offer-twenty-four-hour-coverage-of-bill-clintons-impeachment)

What is sad is that it took me almost a minute before I realized this was satire. That is how laughable Fox "news" has become. It's where credibility goes to die.

[RandomGuy]

Podesta thought he could cuck the Tuck :lol

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Speaking of dead credibility... :lmao

Tucker Carlson. Sad!

[RandomGuy]

Tony feeling the heat

Tony Podesta stepping down from lobbying giant amid Mueller probe
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/30/tony-podesta-stepping-down-from-lobbying-giant-amid-mueller-probe-244314


We have this dashboard. It's called the Hamilton 68 dashboard. And the dashboard is tracking about 600 accounts that are a network or really derived from a few different networks that are promoting messaging that is furthering the Kremlin's interests. It's trying to get the Americans to talk about things that the Russians would like us to be talking about.

SHAPIRO: So let's actually pull up the dashboard right now and see what these Russian-affiliated accounts are talking about right now. And I see that the No. 1 trending hashtag is #PodestaGroup. This is referring to the Democratic lobbyist Tony Podesta. The top URLs, the first one is Justice Department document unsealed yesterday related to the indictments, and the second one is a story, "Tony Podesta Stepping Down From Lobbying Giant Amid Mueller Probe." Why would this be of such interest to these Russian-affiliated accounts?

ROSENBERGER: Of course the big news of the week is actually the indictment of Paul Manafort and Richard Gates - you know, both former Trump campaign officials, Paul Manafort the former chairman of the campaign - and the guilty plea of George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy adviser.

SHAPIRO: And their names are below Podesta on this list.

ROSENBERGER: Mmm hmm (ph). What we see here is a classic Russian tactic called whataboutism. It's basically trying to muddy the waters, to obfuscate truth, to create the idea that everything is relative, that, oh, look; both the Democrats and the Republicans are in trouble for Russia stuff when the reality is, you know, Tony Podesta hasn't been indicted for anything at this point. To think about sort of what they're doing here is a lot of times they're simply amplifying stories that they believe is useful to them, trying to basically...

http://nprberlin.de/post/how-one-group-monitoring-cyber-trolls-potentially-tied-kremlin

How does it feel to be so easily manipulated?

[RandomGuy]

Sam Clovis, President Donald Trump’s controversial nominee to be the Agriculture Department’s chief scientist, has been “a fully cooperative witness” in the Senate Intelligence Committee’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election, Senate Agriculture Chairman Pat Roberts told POLITICO.

Clovis, a former co-chair and policy adviser to Trump’s campaign, knew that another campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, was talking to Russians, according to documents released Monday as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe and campaign and administration officials.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/31/sam-clovis-senate-russia-investigation-244370

Time to watch the clichéd fat man sweat...

[clambake]

"manafort was a crook long before he ran my campaign"


sounds like a solid argument.

[RandomGuy]

"manafort was a crook long before he ran my campaign"


sounds like a solid argument.

"I will hire the best people. Believe me."

:rollin

[TSA]

Debunked.

Hillary wasn't voting on it, the people who did vote said they would have unanimously voted the same way today. The guy who gave the money sold his stake in the company before he gave the money, and gave the money before Clinton was even Secretary of State.

:lmao

You always conveniently forget about Uranium One chairman Ian Telfer's donations

Of the remaining individuals connected with Uranium One who donated to the Clinton Foundation, only one was found to have contributed during the same time frame that the deal was taking place, according to The New York Times — Ian Telfer (also a Canadian), the company’s chairman:

His donations through the Fernwood Foundation included $1 million reported in 2009, the year his company appealed to the American Embassy to help it keep its mines in Kazakhstan; $250,000 in 2010, the year the Russians sought majority control; as well as $600,000 in 2011 and $500,000 in 2012. Mr. Telfer said that his donations had nothing to do with his business dealings, and that he had never discussed Uranium One with Mr. or Mrs. Clinton. He said he had given the money because he wanted to support Mr. Giustra’s charitable endeavors with Mr. Clinton. “Frank and I have been friends and business partners for almost 20 years,” he said.

In addition to the Clinton Foundation donations, the New York Times also cited a $500,000 speaking fee paid to former president Bill Clinton by a Russian investment bank in June 2010, before the Uranium One deal was approved:

The $500,000 fee — among Mr. Clinton’s highest — was paid by Renaissance Capital, a Russian investment bank with ties to the Kremlin that has invited world leaders, including Tony Blair, the former British prime minister, to speak at its investor conferences.

Renaissance Capital analysts talked up Uranium One’s stock, assigning it a “buy” rating and saying in a July 2010 research report that it was “the best play” in the uranium markets.

[TSA]

http://nprberlin.de/post/how-one-group-monitoring-cyber-trolls-potentially-tied-kremlin

How does it feel to be so easily manipulated?

I'm not on twitter or facebook or any other social media site. No Russian affiliated account made me go on Politico and read the article about Podesta, and no Russian affiliated account made Politico write the story on Podesta.

[RandomGuy]

I'm not on twitter or facebook or any other social media site. No Russian affiliated account made me go on Politico and read the article about Podesta, and no Russian affiliated account made Politico write the story on Podesta.

These stories were, however, pushed by Russia, with a very specific agenda, which you furthered, knowingly or not.

I have little doubt that others in your information sphere are so similarly insulated. Quite frankly I kind of wonder how many 4chan asshats are part of the troll army, you included.

[Pavlov]

I'm not on twitter or facebook or any other social media site. No Russian affiliated account made me go on Politico and read the article about Podesta, and no Russian affiliated account made Politico write the story on Podesta.ar15.com?

[RandomGuy]

You always conveniently forget about Uranium One chairman Ian Telfer's donations

Of the remaining individuals connected with Uranium One who donated to the Clinton Foundation, only one was found to have contributed during the same time frame that the deal was taking place, according to The New York Times — Ian Telfer (also a Canadian), the company’s chairman:

His donations through the Fernwood Foundation included $1 million reported in 2009, the year his company appealed to the American Embassy to help it keep its mines in Kazakhstan; $250,000 in 2010, the year the Russians sought majority control; as well as $600,000 in 2011 and $500,000 in 2012. Mr. Telfer said that his donations had nothing to do with his business dealings, and that he had never discussed Uranium One with Mr. or Mrs. Clinton. He said he had given the money because he wanted to support Mr. Giustra’s charitable endeavors with Mr. Clinton. “Frank and I have been friends and business partners for almost 20 years,” he said.

In addition to the Clinton Foundation donations, the New York Times also cited a $500,000 speaking fee paid to former president Bill Clinton by a Russian investment bank in June 2010, before the Uranium One deal was approved:

The $500,000 fee — among Mr. Clinton’s highest — was paid by Renaissance Capital, a Russian investment bank with ties to the Kremlin that has invited world leaders, including Tony Blair, the former British prime minister, to speak at its investor conferences.

Renaissance Capital analysts talked up Uranium One’s stock, assigning it a “buy” rating and saying in a July 2010 research report that it was “the best play” in the uranium markets.

Dance marionetka, tanets.

[RandomGuy]

ar15.com?

Picked up on that too. Very careful to say where he doesn't get his "important news" from. He is not as insulated as he thinks, I would wager.

My thoughts are Trumpeteers and Clinton-bashers tend to have not much defense against such manipulation. it is like exposing people with challenged immune systems to the common cold. Of course they catch it.

[TSA]

These stories were, however, pushed by Russia, with a very specific agenda, which you furthered, knowingly or not.

I have little doubt that others in your information sphere are so similarly insulated. Quite frankly I kind of wonder how many 4chan asshats are part of the troll army, you included.

What was Politico's agenda when publishing the story? And sorry wrong again, I'm not on 4chan or part of a troll army either.

[Pavlov]

You always conveniently forget about Uranium One chairman Ian Telfer's donations

Of the remaining individuals connected with Uranium One who donated to the Clinton Foundation, only one was found to have contributed during the same time frame that the deal was taking place, according to The New York Times — Ian Telfer (also a Canadian), the company’s chairman:

His donations through the Fernwood Foundation included $1 million reported in 2009, the year his company appealed to the American Embassy to help it keep its mines in Kazakhstan; $250,000 in 2010, the year the Russians sought majority control; as well as $600,000 in 2011 and $500,000 in 2012. Mr. Telfer said that his donations had nothing to do with his business dealings, and that he had never discussed Uranium One with Mr. or Mrs. Clinton. He said he had given the money because he wanted to support Mr. Giustra’s charitable endeavors with Mr. Clinton. “Frank and I have been friends and business partners for almost 20 years,” he said.

In addition to the Clinton Foundation donations, the New York Times also cited a $500,000 speaking fee paid to former president Bill Clinton by a Russian investment bank in June 2010, before the Uranium One deal was approved:

The $500,000 fee — among Mr. Clinton’s highest — was paid by Renaissance Capital, a Russian investment bank with ties to the Kremlin that has invited world leaders, including Tony Blair, the former British prime minister, to speak at its investor conferences.

Renaissance Capital analysts talked up Uranium One’s stock, assigning it a “buy” rating and saying in a July 2010 research report that it was “the best play” in the uranium markets.Do you think this deal should be rescinded and Russia cut out of the US uranium business altogether?

Yes or no.

[RandomGuy]

Between October 14 and October 20, we examined 58 unique URLs that were promoted by Kremlin-oriented Twitter accounts. The most prominent theme (24% of all URLs shared) was the probe into the sale of a uranium mining company to Russia's Atomic Energy Agency that was approved by the Obama administration in 2010. The original reporting by The Hill was a top URL for several consecutive days, all other URLs shared promoted some variation on a theme of corruption, collusion, cover-up by the Clinton-led State Department and/or the Mueller-led FBI (#ClintonRussianCollusion was also a top hashtag last week).

http://dashboard.securingdemocracy.org/

[TSA]

Do you think this deal should be rescinded and Russia cut out of the US uranium business altogether?

Yes or no.

Your question is irrelevant to the current conversation of whether or not Uranium One money was flowing to the Clinton Foundation while she was Secretary of State.

[Pavlov]

Your question is irrelevant to the current conversation of whether or not Uranium One money was flowing to the Clinton Foundation while she was Secretary of State.Dodge #1.

Sorry, you've already said that this deal never would've gone through had the bribery/kickback scheme been made public.

So should the deal now be rescinded since you claim it never should've happened in the first place?

[RandomGuy]

What was Politico's agenda when publishing the story? And sorry wrong again, I'm not on 4chan or part of a troll army either.

What is your agenda pushing that in a thread about the sitting presidents collusion with Russia?

Only seems relevant in a whataboutism sense, noted Russian propaganda move. Russia is pushing this story, or was up until the latest terrorist attack. Now they are using that to bash immigrants to the US.

[clambake]

even if she didn't....lock her up so I can focus on trump getting kicked around.

[Trill Clinton]

can we get this thread stickied? who is the mod here?

[Pavlov]

What was Politico's agenda when publishing the story? And sorry wrong again, I'm not on 4chan or part of a troll army either.ar15.com?

[TSA]

Dodge #1.

Sorry, you've already said that this deal never would've gone through had the bribery/kickback scheme been made public.

So should the deal now be rescinded since you claim it never should've happened in the first place?

Asking an irrelevant question repeatedly isn't going to magically make it relevant to the conversation at hand.

[clambake]

can we get this thread stickied? who is the mod here?

hey trill, what do you think about the white house statement "manafort was a crook long before he ran my campaign"

thats some WILD shit right there. what do you make of it?

[RandomGuy]

even if she didn't....lock her up so I can focus on trump getting kicked around.

c'mon man, that wouldn't help. She could fall over dead, and they would prop up her moldering corpse to shout at it in order to ignore the assault on our country, simply because that assault benefited someone with a magic "R" behind their name.

[Pavlov]

Asking an irrelevant question repeatedly isn't going to magically make it relevant to the conversation at hand.Dodge #2.

That's rich since all you are trying to do here is interject the irrelevant Uranium One "scandal" into the conversation about the Trump administration.

Three indictments, one conviction and counting.

[clambake]

c'mon man, that wouldn't help. She could fall over dead, and they would prop up her moldering corpse to shout at it in order to ignore the assault on our country, simply because that assault benefited someone with a magic "R" behind their name.

well, lets make sure she falls over dead. then we can judge the rest of it.

[TSA]

What is your agenda pushing that in a thread about the sitting presidents collusion with Russia?

Only seems relevant in a whataboutism sense, noted Russian propaganda move. Russia is pushing this story, or was up until the latest terrorist attack. Now they are using that to bash immigrants to the US.

If we are going to be discussing Manafort's indictment in this thread why wouldn't we be discussing company A and company B involvement brought up in his indictment? One of which is Podesta's company.

[Pavlov]

If we are going to be discussing Manafort's indictment in this thread why wouldn't we be discussing company A and company B involvement brought up in his indictment? One of which is Podesta's company.Which company is Uranium One?

[TSA]

Dodge #2.

That's rich since all you are trying to do here is interject the irrelevant Uranium One "scandal" into the conversation about the Trump administration.

Three indictments, one conviction and counting.

I'm just correcting the record on RG's claim no money was flowing into Clinton Foundation from Uranium One.

[Pavlov]

I'm just correcting the record on RG's claim no money was flowing into Clinton Foundation from Uranium One.OK, that's done.

[Trill Clinton]

hey trill, what do you think about the white house statement "manafort was a crook long before he ran my campaign"

thats some WILD shit right there. what do you make of it?

i think its crazy how he can flat out lie and say off the wall shit like that and get taken serious. i think his supporters really don't like him but they just like to troll liberals. its very weird.

[Pavlov]

922999641171357696
Grassley BOOM
925115625663553538
Grassley BOOMed right into an American flag dodging Manafort questions. :lmao

[florige]

i think its crazy how he can flat out lie and say off the wall shit like that and get taken serious. i think his supporters really don't like him but they just like to troll liberals. its very weird.



I don't know about that man. His real hardcore believe he was sent by God.

[spurraider21]

I'm just correcting the record on RG's claim no money was flowing into Clinton Foundation from Uranium One.
paid shill confirmed

[djohn2oo8]

925862030883598341

[boutons_deux]

"Twitter offered RT, the Russian state-owned network, 15% of its total share of U.S. elections"

amazing. America rotting from the inside, run by techies with no broad education, and only chasing $$$$.

[TSA]

925862030883598341

CNN 56% SOV on Twitter and their girl still lost the election :lol

[boutons_deux]

The Hill reports that Trash is blaming Kushner for Mueller

[TSA]

925862030883598341


Twitter Buried #DNCLeak, #PodestaEmails Tweets In Last Two Months Of Campaign

Twitter’s systems hid 48 percent of tweets using the #DNCLeak hashtag and 25 percent of tweets using #PodestaEmails, Twitter general counsel Sean Edgett said in his written testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday.

“Approximately one quarter (25%) of [#PodestaEmails tweets] received internal tags from our automation detection systems that hid them from searches,” Edgett said.

He added that “our systems detected and hid just under half (48%) of the Tweets relating to variants of another notable hashtag, #DNCLeak, which concerned the disclosure of leaked emails from the Democratic National Committee

[pgardn]

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/31/facebook-twitter-post-election-russian-meddling-sought-to-undermine-trump-244380

And again.

[Spurminator]

Twitter Buried #DNCLeak, #PodestaEmails Tweets In Last Two Months Of Campaign

Twitter’s systems hid 48 percent of tweets using the #DNCLeak hashtag and 25 percent of tweets using #PodestaEmails, Twitter general counsel Sean Edgett said in his written testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday.

“Approximately one quarter (25%) of [#PodestaEmails tweets] received internal tags from our automation detection systems that hid them from searches,” Edgett said.

He added that “our systems detected and hid just under half (48%) of the Tweets relating to variants of another notable hashtag, #DNCLeak, which concerned the disclosure of leaked emails from the Democratic National Committee

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Twitter-Buried-DNCLeak-PodestaEmails-Tweets-In-Last-Two-Months-Of-Campaign/5-2047578/

[Th'Pusher]

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Twitter-Buried-DNCLeak-PodestaEmails-Tweets-In-Last-Two-Months-Of-Campaign/5-2047578/

:lol

[Spurminator]

Notably, the AR15 edit of the DailyCaller (lol) article leaves about the part about it being an effort to fight bot traffic, which even the DC downplays in the story. Basically those tweets got hidden because they were bot tweets.

I'm glad they're making some effort to fight the ridiculous eagleflagtrump bots, but the RT thing is very concerning.

[Pavlov]

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Twitter-Buried-DNCLeak-PodestaEmails-Tweets-In-Last-Two-Months-Of-Campaign/5-2047578/:lmao

[Spurminator]

I mean why would you complain about Twitter removing bot tweets unless you're cool with bots? And if you're cool with bots, why is that?

[TSA]

Notably, the AR15 edit of the DailyCaller (lol) article leaves about the part about it being an effort to fight bot traffic, which even the DC downplays in the story. Basically those tweets got hidden because they were bot tweets.

I'm glad they're making some effort to fight the ridiculous eagleflagtrump bots, but the RT thing is very concerning.

Just two percent of the tweets using the #DNCLeak hashtag came from “potentially Russian-linked accounts,” according to Edgett. He explained that Twitter hid the tweets as “part of our general efforts at the time to fight automation and spam on our platform across all areas.”

[TSA]

I mean why would you complain about Twitter removing bot tweets unless you're cool with bots? And if you're cool with bots, why is that?
I don't see anyone complaining. Also read page 10 of the testimony.

[Spurminator]

Just two percent of the tweets using the #DNCLeak hashtag came from “potentially Russian-linked accounts,” according to Edgett. He explained that Twitter hid the tweets as “part of our general efforts at the time to fight automation and spam on our platform across all areas.”

You realize bots don't have to be Russian, right?

"Automation and spam."

Do you think they were actively silencing real people? They did a pretty shitty job if that's the case.

[TSA]

You realize bots don't have to be Russian, right?

Of course they aren't all Russian bots.


Do you think CTR bot tweets were hidden at the same rate as anti-Hillary bot tweets? Are you cool with CTR bot tweets? Who spent more on bot tweets Russia or CTR? how much did CTR spend?

[Spurminator]

Do you think CTR bot tweets were hidden at the same rate as anti-Hillary bot tweets?

I would assume Twitter's intent is to fight bot traffic carrying any message, do you have reason to believe otherwise?


Are you cool with CTR bot tweets?

Nope. I'm not cool with anything that mimics human activity to manipulate news and people. Are you?


Who spent more on bot tweets Russia or CTR? how much did CTR spend?

I have no idea. Do you?

[TSA]

I would assume Twitter's intent is to fight bot traffic carrying any message, do you have reason to believe otherwise?



Nope. I'm not cool with anything that mimics human activity to manipulate news and people. Are you?



I have no idea. Do you?

Yes

No

CTR

[Spurminator]

Yes

No

CTR

Details? How do you know what Russia spent on bots?

[Pavlov]

Details? How do you know what Russia spent on bots?ar15.com

[Splits]

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Twitter-Buried-DNCLeak-PodestaEmails-Tweets-In-Last-Two-Months-Of-Campaign/5-2047578/

Lol ar15 + DC holy shit

[TSA]

Lol ar15 + DC holy shit

Best part about it is that your the third person to quote that and the third person to ignore the quotes are from direct testimony which is also linked.

[TSA]

Details? How do you know what Russia spent on bots?

Pretty simple and no math needed to come to the conclusion that CTR spent more on bots than Russia. Silly to even ask the question considering CTR's budget

https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00578997&cycle=2016

[TSA]

Add on shariablue and paid bots/posters. Its not even close. You will still pretend you care though

[Spurminator]

Pretty simple and no math needed to come to the conclusion that CTR spent more on bots than Russia. Silly to even ask the question considering CTR's budget

https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00578997&cycle=2016

It's really not silly. Which of these expenditures covers "bots"?



Sector
Description
Total Expenditures


Administrative
Administrative consulting
$391,978


Administrative travel & lodging
$306,395


Administrative data & technology
$51,811


Rent, utilities & office expenses
$15,631


Contributions
Contributions to committees
$400,000


Contributions to federal candidates
$62,000


Contributions to state & local parties
$5,050


Miscellaneous contributions
$1,000


Fundraising
Fundraising consulting
$1,154,594


Fundraising events
$54,727


Fundraising fees
$17,075


Media
Media consulting
$226,442


Web ads
$13,740


Media production
$7,590


Salaries
Salaries, wages & benefits
$3,866,109


Strategy & Research
Campaign strategy & communications consulting
$458,715


Campaign data & technology
$40,838


Polling & surveys
$13,500


Unclassifiable
Unclassifiable printing & shipping
$57,741

[Spurminator]

Add on shariablue and paid bots/posters. Its not even close. You will still pretend you care though

You made the claim, not me. And none of this shows that Twitter was biased in hiding bot activity.

[TSA]

It's really not silly. Which of these expenditures covers "bots"?



Sector
Description
Total Expenditures


Administrative
Administrative consulting
$391,978


Administrative travel & lodging
$306,395


Administrative data & technology
$51,811


Rent, utilities & office expenses
$15,631


Contributions
Contributions to committees
$400,000


Contributions to federal candidates
$62,000


Contributions to state & local parties
$5,050


Miscellaneous contributions
$1,000


Fundraising
Fundraising consulting
$1,154,594


Fundraising events
$54,727


Fundraising fees
$17,075


Media
Media consulting
$226,442


Web ads
$13,740


Media production
$7,590


Salaries
Salaries, wages & benefits
$3,866,109


Strategy & Research
Campaign strategy & communications consulting
$458,715


Campaign data & technology
$40,838


Polling & surveys
$13,500


Unclassifiable
Unclassifiable printing & shipping
$57,741



:rollin why aren't bots or troll armies listed in expenditures :rollin

[Spurminator]

:rollin why aren't bots or troll armies listed in expenditures :rollin

I'm not suggesting they would be specifically listed as such, I'm just asking which of those categories they would likely fall under, unless you are accusing them of being fraudulent in reporting their spend.

Would it be the $13K for web ads? $40K for campaign data and technology? This is your link that you offered as evidence, I'm just trying to better understand it.

[TSA]

Are you trying to argue Russia was more influential on twitter than CTR/Shariablue?

[Spurminator]

Are you trying to argue Russia was more influential on twitter than CTR/Shariablue?

I don't have enough information to make such an argument, which is why I said "I don't know" a dozen posts ago. You seem to have more information and certainty than I have.

[TSA]

I don't have enough information to make such an argument, which is why I said "I don't know" a dozen posts ago. You seem to have more information and certainty than I have.you would if you'd read the testimony earlier.

[dabom]

Are you trying to argue Russia was more influential on twitter than CTR/Shariablue?

Agreeing that Russia meddled in the election. :lmao

[Pavlov]

Agreeing that Russia meddled in the election. :lmao:lol baby steps

[Spurminator]

you would if you'd read the testimony earlier.

The testimony doesn't say anything about CTR, nor Shareblue, nor about how much Russia spent on bots.

So are we done with CTR's budget? I'm just trying to keep up.

[dabom]

:lol baby steps

:lol

[TSA]

The testimony doesn't say anything about CTR, nor Shareblue, nor about how much Russia spent on bots.

So are we done with CTR's budget? I'm just trying to keep up.

You've got estimated amounts spent for Russian ads along with CTR budget you really going to try playing dumb?

[Spurminator]

You've got estimated amounts spent for Russian ads along with CTR budget you really going to try playing dumb?

Are we talking about ads now? Ads are fundamentally different things vs. bots, as I'm sure you know.

I still don't know how much of CTR's budget was spent on bots.

Look, this was your claim. Either you know or you don't. Seems like you might be making some assumptions.

[TSA]

Agreeing that Russia meddled in the election. :lmao

Never once disputed Russia meddled in our election. To think otherwise would be ignoring decades of evidence.

Facebook/twitter/pokemon go = collusion :lmao

[TSA]

Are we talking about ads now? Ads are fundamentally different things vs. bots, as I'm sure you know.

Total spent

[Spurminator]

Total spent

The only spend reported in the testimony is ad spend. Twitter would have no way of knowing what Russia or CTR spent on developing bots to organically tweet and share content.

RT sure spent a hell of a lot on Twitter advertising, though. More than CTR spent on total advertising, it would seem, from the link you shared.

[dabom]

Never once disputed Russia meddled in our election. To think otherwise would be ignoring decades of evidence.

Facebook/twitter/pokemon go = collusion :lmao

Someone should tell the potus POS that. :lmao

I guess the president must be some fucking dumb fuck at this point. :lol

[dabom]

Either he is the biggest sack of shit of all time... :lmao

Or he actually colluded with the Russians. :lmao

Either way, he's fucked. :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Ex-FBI senior official explains why Mueller is ‘much closer to the Oval Office than many of us realized’

“Well, there’s clearly a pathway that he’s got planned out, and we’re seeing it unfold right now,” Figliuzzi noted.

“And one of the things that I think we’re all realizing is that the Mueller team is much farther along in this investigation and much closer to the Oval Office than many of us realized.”

Figliuzzi explained a distinction between former Trump associates and current staffers.

“What we’re learning, even today, is that people that I call the formers —

former White House chief of staff Reince Priebus, former White House spokesman Sean Spicer, former interim National Security Advisor Keith Kellogg —

are all voluntarily working with or being interviewed by the Mueller team,” Figliuzzi explained.

“This is a sign that he’s penetrated into the White House,” Figliuzzi noted.

“These are the people who were savvy, in meetings, privy to knowledge.

For example, Reince Priebus was White House chief of staff when Trump decided to fire FBI Director James Comey. What does he know about that?”

As damaging as former staffers may be, Figliuzzi explained that Trump may have more to fear from his current communications director.

“But let me tell you something, the appearance of Hope Hicks and the likelihood she’s about to be interviewed when she returns from a foreign trip with the president should worry President Trump perhaps more than anyone else,” Figliuzzi noted.

“Why? All of the people we just named are formers.

They don’t have this lovefest with the president, they in fact have issues with the president,” Figliuzzi observed.

“Hope Hicks has been with Trump and the Trump Organization since 2014.

She’s a 29-year-old young lady, she’s about to undergo the most stressful part of her life, being interviewed by the special counsel team.

She sits in the most sensitive meetings, the most critical media interviews the president has.”

“She knows more than we think she knows,”

“If you look at this through a counterintelligence lens, you see the fingerprints of the Russian government here,”

“I think [Paul Manafort] got a primer on how the Russians can influence a campaign when he represented the Ukrainian candidate, and

he saw what Russia could do to manipulate a campaign and he liked it,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/ex-fbi-senior-official-explains-why-mueller-is-much-closer-to-the-oval-office-than-many-of-us-realized/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Chris]

Speaking of dead credibility... :lmao

<insert CNN,MSNBC,ESPN reporter here>. Sad!

fify

Explain why Tucker isn't credible.

[Splits]

926003717467508737

lol

[boutons_deux]

Russia hackers had targets worldwide, beyond US election

targeting the emails of Ukrainian officers, Russian opposition figures, U.S. defense contractors and thousands of others of interest to the Kremlin,

“It’s a wish list of who you’d want to target to further Russian interests,”

“a master list of individuals whom Russia would like to spy on, embarrass, discredit or silence.”

The AP findings draw on a database of 19,000 malicious links collected by cybersecurity firm Secureworks, dozens of rogue emails, and interviews with more than 100 hacking targets.

https://www.apnews.com/3bca5267d4544508bb523fa0db462cb2?ncid=newsltushpmg news__TheMorningEmail__110217

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/putins-real-long-game-214589

[RandomGuy]

It's really not silly. Which of these expenditures covers "bots"?



Sector
Description
Total Expenditures


Administrative
Administrative consulting
$391,978


Administrative travel & lodging
$306,395


Administrative data & technology
$51,811


Rent, utilities & office expenses
$15,631


Contributions
Contributions to committees
$400,000


Contributions to federal candidates
$62,000


Contributions to state & local parties
$5,050


Miscellaneous contributions
$1,000


Fundraising
Fundraising consulting
$1,154,594


Fundraising events
$54,727


Fundraising fees
$17,075


Media
Media consulting
$226,442


Web ads
$13,740


Media production
$7,590


Salaries
Salaries, wages & benefits
$3,866,109


Strategy & Research
Campaign strategy & communications consulting
$458,715


Campaign data & technology
$40,838


Polling & surveys
$13,500


Unclassifiable
Unclassifiable printing & shipping
$57,741



You could bury it anywhere, depending on how you wanted to classify the invoice, likely under the strategy and research or media.

Since the bots aren't an "ad" per se, and presumably, you might pay a consultant to do it for you, it might be lumped in on one of those lines. If the bot was run under paid employees the expense may be buried in salaries.

Depending on how cagy they wanted to be, I would start looking at invoices and job titles to get at an exact number, with an attempt at linking dates of invoices to bot activity.

[RandomGuy]

fify

Explain why Tucker isn't credible.

He works for Fox News.

http://chillysounddj.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/mic-drop-2boom.jpg

[RandomGuy]

What is your agenda pushing that in a thread about the sitting presidents collusion with Russia?

Only seems relevant in a whataboutism sense, noted Russian propaganda move. Russia is pushing this story, or was up until the latest terrorist attack. Now they are using that to bash immigrants to the US.


If we are going to be discussing Manafort's indictment in this thread why wouldn't we be discussing company A and company B involvement brought up in his indictment? One of which is Podesta's company.

Not really an answer. Now I am curious.

What is your motivation of bringing up this, in a thread about a sitting president potentially colluding with a hostile foreign government?

[RandomGuy]

You've got estimated amounts spent for Russian ads along with CTR budget you really going to try playing dumb?

How much money did Russia pay the trolls?

If we want to talk about effort and expenditures, surely the salaries of paid employees, or free lancers would be relevant to assess this.

[RandomGuy]

I'm just correcting the record on RG's claim no money was flowing into Clinton Foundation from Uranium One.

No, my claim was the dude running it gave money after he sold the company.

Now, tell me exactly how Hillary Clinton benefitted from any money given to a non-profit charitable organization that spends 88% of all its receipts on actual charity.

You stupid motherfuckers keep harping on this shit, and actively ignoring the conflicts of interest of the Trump organization. What kind of partisan c unt does that?

[Splits]

926095058063028224

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

The White House Admits That Trump Impeachment Is A Realistic Possibility

People inside the White House are distancing themselves from Trump and admitting that the impeachment of the President had become a real possibility.

Gabriel Sherman of Vanity Fair (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/the-west-wing-trump-is-apoplectic-as-allies-fear-impeachment) reported,

“For the first time since the investigation began, the prospect of impeachment is being considered as a realistic outcome and not just a liberal fever dream.

According to a source, advisers in the West Wing are on edge and doing whatever they can not to be ensnared.

One person close to Dina Powell and Gary Cohn said they’re making sure to leave rooms if the subject of Russia comes up.”

Sherman also reported that the White House sees few good options for stopping Mueller.

Trump is raging, raving, and blaming Jared Kushner for his problems,

but there is the only person to blame for this scandal, and that is Donald Trump.

It is Trump whose odd behavior, and

denial of the hacking and Russian involvement in the election drew the FBI’s attention.

It was Trump who fired James Comey, and

it is Trump who has relentlessly tried to shut down the Russia investigation.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/11/02/white-house-admits-trump-impeachment-realistic-possibility.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Trash apparently doesn't drink alcohol or smoke because of his brother Freddy, but I wonder how many and what pills Trash is on.

[boutons_deux]

Manafort was one degree of separation away from ‘the most dangerous mobster in the world’

The Daily Beast’s Betsy Woodruff reports (https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-reveals-new-manafort-link-to-organized-crime) that the link comes through Manafort’s use of Cypress-based Lucicle Consultants Limited to wire millions of dollars into the United States.

This is relevant because Lucicle also received millions of dollars from Ukrainian parliamentarian Ivan Fursin, who has close ties to Semion Mogilevich, a Russian mobster whom Woodruff notes is often called “the most dangerous mobster in the world.”

While all the sources of money that Manafort wired through Lucicle aren’t precisely known,

Woodruff explains that at least some of it seems to have come from Fursin,

as the Ukrainian politician is tied to an offshore entity called Mistaro Ventures that the New York Times earlier this year reported “transferred millions to Lucicle in February 2012 shortly before Lucicle made the $9.9 million loan to Jesand L.L.C.,

a Delaware company that Mr. Manafort previously used to buy real estate in New York.”

The bottom line, explains retired IRS criminal investigator Martin Shiel to Woodruff, is that Mueller’s indictment this week

“strongly indicates the existence of a previously unknown relationship between an alleged Russian organized crime leader and Mr. Manafort.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/manafort-was-one-degree-of-separation-away-from-the-most-dangerous-mobster-in-the-world/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Is Trump trapped? He’s hemmed in by bad advice, with no way out

He’d love to fire Bob Mueller (and Jeff Sessions) but knows he can’t. Outlandish Hillary theories won’t save him

Gallup's daily tracking poll hit a new low (http://news.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx) this week: 33 percent.

Trump's longtime friend and adviser, Sam Nunberg, told Vanity Fair's Gabriel Sherman (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/the-west-wing-trump-is-apoplectic-as-allies-fear-impeachment),

"You can't go any lower. He's fucked." :lol

“He thinks it’s unfair criticism. Clinton hasn’t gotten anything like this. And what about Tony Podesta?

Trump is like,

When is that going to end?”

That certainly does sound like him.

Infantile petulance, attempts to cast blame and whining about the unfairness of others

are his trademarks.The president is also borderline-delusional when he insists that he isn't under investigation.

The Washington Post reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-counsel-is-investigating-trump-for-possible-obstruction-of-justice/2017/06/14/9ce02506-5131-11e7-b064-828ba60fbb98_story.html?utm_term=.90031062810c) last June that Mueller is investigating Trump for obstruction of justice for his attempts to shut down the Michael Flynn investigation and for the firing of former FBI director James Comey, among other things. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-dictated-sons-misleading-statement-on-meeting-with-russian-lawyer/2017/07/31/04c94f96-73ae-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.9f3346e7a540)

The president is soon leaving town for a couple of weeks for his big Asia trip, which reportedly has his aides beside themselves, since they know that his unpredictable and ill-mannered behavior could easily cause an international incident in a region where protocol is extremely important.

“You never know what he’ll say,” an administration official said, adding that the grueling schedule could heighten the risk of mistakes. An outside adviser to the administration concurred: “The potential for error is huge.”

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/02/is-trump-trapped-hes-hemmed-in-by-bad-advice-with-no-way-out/

[boutons_deux]

https://media.salon.com/2017/11/sam-clovis-compressor.jpg

How did Trump’s goofy, morbidly obese, kakistocrat extraordinaire USDA pick end up in the middle of the Russia scandal?


Sam Clovis, Trump’s dubious pick as USDA science chief, is also deeply entwined in Russian intrigue

NBC News reported that Sam Clovis (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/top-trump-campaign-aide-clovis-spoke-mueller-team-grand-jury-n816106) — a failed politician and far-right talk radio host from Iowa who had worked on the Trump campaign — was brought in last week to testify in front of the grand jury that Mueller has impaneled.

As Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo noted (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/ummm-whats-up-with-sam-clovis), it appears

Clovis was central to the selection of the infamous five foreign policy "experts" Trump hired as advisers during his campaign.

"We now know that two of those five men immediately began trying to establish contacts between the Trump campaign and the government of Russia or spies working on behalf of Russia,"

Clovis reportedly had direct communications with George Papadopoulos, the Trump foreign policy aide who recently pled guilty for lying to the FBI,

Leaked communications between Clovis and Papadopoulos indicate that Clovis was a big fan of Papadopoulos' Russia work (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/george-papadopoulos-emailed-powerful-trump-campaign-figures-russian/story?id=50845507),

Clovis was already on the radar of scientists and environmentalists (https://www.salon.com/2017/08/28/trump-nominated-a-climate-denier-as-usda-chief-scientist-heres-why-that-matters/)who are deeply concerned about the threat he poses to America's food supply.

That's because President Trump appointed Clovis to be chief scientist at the U.S. Department of Agriculture, even though

Clovis has no scientific credentials and appears to have no relationship whatever to the agricultural industry,

outside of being a dude from a Corn Belt state.

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/02/how-did-trumps-goofy-usda-pick-end-up-in-the-middle-of-the-russia-scandal/

Clovis is fighter pilot grad of US Air Force Academy! :lol

[boutons_deux]

Paul Manafort is charged with violating a law enacted to fight Nazi propaganda


The Foreign Agent Registration Act, the obscure statute used to charge Paul Manafort, explained.


The Foreign Agent Registration Act has a simple purpose. It requires lobbyists and other groups representing and advocating on behalf of foreign governments to disclose those activities to the government and then the public.

The law was passed nearly 80 years ago to prevent meddling by a foreign dictatorship in American elections and politics. The charge is politically explosive:

Mueller claims Manafort and Gates were acting as undisclosed agents of a foreign power, the pro-Russian government of Ukraine.

“FARA was enacted in 1938 in response to recommendations of a special congressional committee investigating anti-American activities in the United States,” the report states, alluding to the House Un-American Affairs Committee (HUAC), which would later become infamous in the post-World War II Red Scare.

Before HUAC began focusing exclusively on communists, it was interested in fascist influence in the US through groups like the German American Bund, which would eventually hold a 20,000-person pro-Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden (https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/542499/marshall-curry-nazi-rally-madison-square-garden-1939/) in 1939.

The committee concluded that

“the Nazi German government had established an extensive underground propaganda apparatus using American firms and citizens,”

according to the inspector general’s report — and FARA was enacted to try to stop it.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/2/16581950/foreign-agent-registration-act-manafort-gates-ukraine

[boutons_deux]

Pootin takes another scalp! :lol

Trump’s HOG from IOWA for USDA science chief withdraws after being caught up in Mueller’s Russia investigation

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/trumps-pick-for-usda-science-chief-withdraws-after-being-caught-up-in-muellers-russia-investigation/

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/a33.jpg :lol :lol :lol

[Pavlov]

Pootin takes another scalp! :lol

Trump’s HOG from IOWA for USDA science chief withdraws after being caught up in Mueller’s Russia investigation

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/trumps-pick-for-usda-science-chief-withdraws-after-being-caught-up-in-muellers-russia-investigation/

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/a33.jpg :lol :lol :lol

Yeah, a senate hearing isn't exactly what they'd want from Porkins there.

[RandomGuy]

US 'to charge six Russian officials' over election hack


The US Justice Department has gathered enough evidence to charge six members of the Russian government in the hacking of Democratic National Committee computers before last year's presidential election, the Wall Street Journal reported.

By identifying individual Russian military and intelligence hackers with charges the US could make it difficult for them to travel, but arresting and jailing them would be unlikely.

The hacking investigation, conducted by cybersecurity experts, predates the appointment in May of special counsel Robert Mueller to lead the probe of alleged Russian meddling in the election, and possible collusion with President Donald Trump's campaign.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/02/us-charge-six-russian-officials-election-hack/

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, a senate hearing isn't exactly what they'd want from Porkins there.

The list of incompetent boobs being put in charge of our government is disgusting. It would have been good theater watching him get grilled. (insert sizzling sound here)

[RandomGuy]

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:lmao

aw, that's just mean... :rollin

[RandomGuy]

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Grassley BOOMed right into an American flag dodging Manafort questions. :lmao

When questions reared their ugly heads, Brave Sir Grassley turned tail and fled... :lol

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2014-06-14-keystonekops.jpg

I'm sure the Republicans will be all over the Russian interference. Chaffiz is on the case.

[Trill Clinton]

bump

[TSA]

Not really an answer. Now I am curious.

What is your motivation of bringing up this, in a thread about a sitting president potentially colluding with a hostile foreign government?

You seem to have no problem discussing the Manafort indictment even though none of the charges have anything to do with the election. I already suggested earlier the indictment have its own thread.

[RandomGuy]

You seem to have no problem discussing the Manafort indictment even though none of the charges have anything to do with the election. I already suggested earlier the indictment have its own thread.

Grassley was not afraid at all to dodge in artful ways. Brave brave brave sir Grassley...

[RandomGuy]

You seem to have no problem discussing the Manafort indictment even though none of the charges have anything to do with the election. I already suggested earlier the indictment have its own thread.

Do the charges give the prosecutor leverage to extract information regarding others' actions during the election? Yes or no motherfucker.
.

[Trill Clinton]

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[DarrinS]

Do the charges give the prosecutor leverage to extract information regarding others' actions during the election? Yes or no motherfucker.
.


Given that Manafort left a goldmine of docs and computer files at his home that incriminated himself, but apparently nothing about the election, what info is there to extract? Perhaps he was at the golden shower party? :lmao

[Pavlov]

Given that Manafort left a goldmine of docs and computer files at his home that incriminated himself, but apparently nothing about the election, what info is there to extract? Perhaps he was at the golden shower party? :lmaoYou're saying there will be no further charges for Manafort?

[djohn2oo8]

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little tidbit..Page was Carrying a message from Trump to Putin.

[Pavlov]

It almost seems as if Porkins has flipped.

https://i.imgur.com/L9uIQk1.gif

[djohn2oo8]

It almost seems as if Porkins has flipped.

https://i.imgur.com/L9uIQk1.gif

He has.

[boutons_deux]

the little racist shitbag caught lying under oath, AGAIN

Sessions now says he was aware of Papadopoulos-Russia contacts — contradicting his sworn testimony: report

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/sessions-now-says-he-was-aware-of-papadopoulos-russia-contacts-contradicting-his-sworn-testimony-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Pavlov]

He has.http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2111912/porkins-o.gif

[boutons_deux]

CNN panel bursts into laughter at Trump ‘frustration’ over not being ‘involved’ in Russian collusion investigation

President Donald Trump made an appearance on Larry O’Connor’s radio show (https://www.facebook.com/WMALDC/videos/10155476834364342/)where he lamented his inability to control (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/muellers-next-target-is-pro-trump-group-with-ties-to-mike-pences-chief-of-staff-report/) the many investigations into possible collusion or possible obstruction of justice.

“The saddest thing is because I’m president of the United States I’m not supposed to be involved with the Justice Department, the FBI, doing the kinds of things that I would love to be doing and I’m very frustrated by it,”

The CNN panel burst out into chuckles at the idea that Trump would love to be involved in the investigation for which his own former staffers have been indicted.

one of the major reasons that Kushner has been a target is his involvement in the Cambridge Analytica data operation (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/similarities-between-cambridge-analytica-and-russian-facebook-ads-seems-too-close-to-be-coincidence/).

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/cnn-panel-bursts-into-laughter-at-trump-frustration-over-not-being-involved-in-the-russian-collusion-investigation/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

The right-wing’s favorite Internet personality was just outed as a Russian troll

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/squad.jpg

Jenna Abrams’ tweets were beloved, at times, by both the alt-right and the celebrity blogosphere.

Now, Congressional investigators have confirmed that her Twitter account was actually run out of St. Petersburg, Russia’s infamous troll farm (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/dozens-if-not-hundreds-of-russian-troll-farms-are-still-operating-in-the-u-s-right-now-report/).

According to The Daily Beast (https://www.thedailybeast.com/jenna-abrams-russias-clown-troll-princess-duped-the-mainstream-media-and-the-world?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thedailybeast%2Farticles+%28T he+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles%29), the “Abrams” account that initially became famous after “fixing” a nude selfie posted by Kim Kardashian (https://atlantadailyworld.com/2016/03/07/funniest-reactions-to-yet-another-kim-kardashian-thirsty-nude-selfie/5/) was run, along with thousands of others, by the Kremlin-funded Internet Research Agency.

The account, which was supposed to be run by an American blogger, soon pivoted to right-wing rhetoric, including a professed belief in segregation.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/the-right-wings-favorite-internet-personality-was-just-outed-as-a-russian-troll/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Carter Page spent seven hours pleading the Fifth and refusing to hand over documents to House intel committee

Ex-Trump adviser Carter Page said in October that he intended to plead the Fifth Amendment (https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/carter-page-pleads-fifth-senate-intelligence/index.html) when interviewed in the various Russia investigations.

Now, after seven hours in front of the House Intelligence Committee, he’s made good on that promise.

According to lawmakers that spoke to Politico (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/02/carter-page-russia-probe-documents-244483),

Page utilized his Fifth Amendment rights when asked why he’s withholding documents they requested from him in their Russia probe.

“I’m helping to the greatest extent I can,” :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/carter-page-spent-seven-hours-pleading-the-fifth-and-refusing-to-hand-over-documents-to-house-intel-committee/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Trump Tells Laura Ingraham ‘We Will See’ If Tillerson Will Be With Him ‘For the Duration’

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-tells-laura-ingraham-we-will-see-if-tillerson-will-be-with-him-for-the-duration/

[djohn2oo8]

926475107819769856
:lmao

[Spurminator]

The right-wing’s favorite Internet personality was just outed as a Russian troll

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/squad.jpg

Jenna Abrams’ tweets were beloved, at times, by both the alt-right and the celebrity blogosphere.

Now, Congressional investigators have confirmed that her Twitter account was actually run out of St. Petersburg, Russia’s infamous troll farm (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/dozens-if-not-hundreds-of-russian-troll-farms-are-still-operating-in-the-u-s-right-now-report/).

According to The Daily Beast (https://www.thedailybeast.com/jenna-abrams-russias-clown-troll-princess-duped-the-mainstream-media-and-the-world?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thedailybeast%2Farticles+%28T he+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles%29), the “Abrams” account that initially became famous after “fixing” a nude selfie posted by Kim Kardashian (https://atlantadailyworld.com/2016/03/07/funniest-reactions-to-yet-another-kim-kardashian-thirsty-nude-selfie/5/) was run, along with thousands of others, by the Kremlin-funded Internet Research Agency.

The account, which was supposed to be run by an American blogger, soon pivoted to right-wing rhetoric, including a professed belief in segregation.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/the-right-wings-favorite-internet-personality-was-just-outed-as-a-russian-troll/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29



Bet "Amy Mek" will be one of the next.

[RandomGuy]

http://dashboard.securingdemocracy.org/

Russia now pushing Warren/Trump spat.

Expect a ducks thread on it shortly.

[boutons_deux]

Here’s every example of all the ‘weird Russia stuff’ that keeps following Trump’s resigned Ag nominee Sam Clovis

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/yt_clovis_140409a-800x430.jpg

“When the Wall Street Journal reported earlier this year that a Republican operative named Peter Smith who mounted an effort to contact foreign, specifically Russian government hackers, to try and get Hillary Clinton’s emails,

Peter Smith claimed, somewhat famously now, he was working with Retired Gen. Mike Flynn” on the effort, Maddow said.

However, Smith also claimed that he was working with Clovis, as well as Kellyanne Conway and Steve Bannon.

Clovis is also responsible for bringing Carter Page into the campaign’s universe. :lol

In the plea agreement that were unsealed this week for former Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos,

it was revealed a “campaign supervisor” who told him

“great work” on his ability “to arrange a meeting between us and the Russian leadership.”

That campaign supervisor was also Clovis. :lol

He even went so far as to encourage the now-infamous campaign adviser George Papadopoulos

to move forward with setting up meetings with Russian officials,

including those in Russian President Vladimir Putin’s inner circle.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/heres-every-example-of-all-the-weird-russia-stuff-that-keeps-following-trumps-resigned-ag-nominee-sam-clovis/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

The extent of Trash's mafiya is ever-widening and implicating Trash and the rest of his mafiya irrevocably.

[djohn2oo8]

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lol his emails

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[Chris]

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.riffsy.com%2Fimages%2F7ff5c4 2d79dfb1bff7e022baed670114%2Ftenor.gif&f=1

[DarrinS]

DNC and Hillary colluded


Still waiting on evidence of Trump campaign collusion